[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Organize!

[Laurie Solomon]

I find it interesting how, whether or not the case was always about race, 
the focus has been on the particulars of the case and the individuals 
involved rather than on the case as a trial of our judicial system itself. 
It seems as if people want to accept that the justice system itself is 
systemically "fair and Just" and only needs some tweaking and reforms to 
make it more so and to produce outcomes that are more equitable and fair 
than is currently the case.  Namely the establishment and many individuals 
seem to want to suggest that particular cases and specific trials are bad 
apples; but the system itself is a good barrel.  Few seem to be willing to 
say that the barrel (e.g., the justice system is itself) is fundamentally 
bad.

Similarly, the focus of the Snowden incident is on the individual, theft, 
and treason but not on the principles of the public's right to transparency, 
privacy, and public accountability even if and when - in practice - it may 
put national security in jeopardy.  Namely, principles are secondary to 
practices when it comes to security with opposition to this being viewed as 
being unpatriotic and criminal.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Carl G. Estabrook
Sent: July 17, 2013 2:21 PM
To: David Green
Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Organize!

The NYT op-ed page, policing the boundaries of acceptable opinion, tells us, 
"The case was always about race."

And, it is implied, nothing else.

Cf. the Snowden case, which was always about theft.


On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:10 AM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Even though I believe that a manslaughter charge, without 2nd degree 
> murder, might have succeeded with a better prosecution, even that's quite 
> debatable.
>
> In any event, if bad cases make bad law, bad law makes bad cases. SYG has 
> clouded the issue in this case, and who know how that affected GZ.
>
> What I really want to say is that seeing Eric Holder on the news this 
> morning talking about further prosecution makes me sick, not because it 
> probably won't stick either, but because it's just more identity 
> politics/co-option from the Obama administration. Not a perfect analogy, 
> but for some reason it reminds me of Kennedy's grudging support for civil 
> rights while invading Vietnam, Cuba, etc.
>
>
> DG
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