[Peace-discuss] More differential application of SYG

ewj at pigsqq.org ewj at pigsqq.org
Thu Jul 18 02:37:47 UTC 2013


It's ok.

You don't have to admit it.

People tend to take on the characteristics of those
they hang out with.  I have been accused of modifying
the thinking and behaviour of some folk here in the 
Middle Kingdom.  Indeed that was a goal.

In your case I think it is only natural, Paul, that
you would pick up certain nuances from me and
adapt them, and finally take them as your own.

We all do that to some extent.  Perhaps you are
particularly susceptible or adept (depending upon one's
perspective) at that sort of assimilative behaviour.

I dont mind at all.  

Wayne

>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: Paul Mueth <paulmueth at yahoo.com>
>  To: <ewj at pigsqq.org> <ewj at pigsqq.org>
>  Cc: Laurie Solomon <ls1000 at live.com>, Peace-discuss List <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, ocCUpy <occupycu at lists.chambana.net>
>  Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] More differential application of SYG
>  Sent: Jul 18 '13 10:18
>  
>  Hardly. . . Preposterous
>  
>  Sent from my iPhone 3GS, It doesn't chat!
>  
>  On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:27 PM, <ewj at pigsqq.org> wrote:
>  
>  > It is clear that Paul has begun to adapt and
>  > utilize some aspects of my personal style.
>  >
>  > My goal has been to point out various hypocrisy and
>  > non-congruity in thinking.  I am not quite sure about
>  > Paul's exact goals, but given that imitation is said to
>  > be a highly sincere form of flattery, I find it difficult
>  > to find a good reason to be unhappy about it.
>  >
>  >> -------Original Message-------
>  >> From: Laurie Solomon <ls1000 at live.com>
>  >> To: Paul Mueth <paulmueth at yahoo.com>, Peace-discuss List <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>  >> Cc: ocCUpy <occupycu at lists.chambana.net>
>  >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] More differential application of SYG
>  >> Sent: Jul 18 '13 00:33
>  >>
>  >> I find it interesting, telling, and disappointing that you feel little or
>  >> no restraint in falling back on the use of racist terms, such
>  >> as”Chink,” and  terms colored by a biased and emotion-invoking spin,
>  >> e.g., the “injustice”  system when you could just as easily engaged in
>  >> a rational civil discussion  without having employing those tactics.   I
>  >> also find that many of  your posts of recent on this and other topics have
>  >> tended to become very  disjointed and elliptical, making them hard to
>  >> follow and understand.  I  attribute some of this to your use of your
>  >> iPhone and in part to your attempt to  multi-task in which you are giving
>  >> little attention to any of the tasks you are  performing but feel compelled
>  >> to respond even if you cannot give the time to any  detail.
>  >>
>  >> While I am not a big fan of CGE, I am going to give him the benefit of the
>  >> doubt here and assume that he was not focusing on invoking William Kunstler
>  >> as  much as invoking the Counterpunch article that he supplied a link to
>  >> which does  invoke Kunstler’s remark as an occasion for articulating the
>  >> points of the  article.  Personally, I fail to see what Kunstler’s
>  >> comments or positions  (actual or presumptively attributed to him) on the
>  >> jury system or ALEC  orchestrated reforms have to do with anything.  To do
>  >> what a lot of people  – including myself – seem to be doing these days,
>  >> I will ask a counterfactual  question:  What if Kunstler has said that he
>  >> had no opposition to  and  even supported the ALEC orchestration of reforms
>  >> of the judicial system and SYG;  how would that change anything including
>  >> your position?  I would suggest  that it would not change anything and even
>  >> suggest that the cognitive dissonance  that this would create would result
>  >> in his comments being dismissed as  irrelevant, senile, or misinformed.  It
>  >> is for that reason that I think  invoking Kunstler or his comments is a
>  >> distracting irrelevancy and totally  unnecessary.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> FROM: [LINK: mailto:paulmueth at yahoo.com] Paul Mueth
>  >> SENT: July 17, 2013 6:15 AM
>  >> TO: [LINK: mailto:Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net] Peace-discuss List
>  >> CC: [LINK: mailto:occupycu at lists.chambana.net] ocCUpy
>  >> SUBJECT: [Peace-discuss] More differential application of  SYG
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> The injustice system is rigged, another case in point
>  >>
>  >> [LINK: http://mobile.thegrio.com/thegrio/]
>  >> http://mobile.thegrio.com/thegrio/#!/entry/71yearold-black-man-found-guilty-of-manslaughter-jury-rejects-stand,5124f9c5d7fc7b56703b5d2f
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> The Alternet article I circulated at the beginning of this string has the
>  >> stats on how the Florida SYG is applied depending on the race of the
>  >> stander.
>  >>
>  >> William Kunstler invoked by CGE on the jury system would be  fundamentally
>  >> opposed, I'm sure, to the ALEC orchestrated "reforms" of the  judicial
>  >> system, of which SYG is only one. And I guess perhaps the most deadly,  at
>  >> least in terms of individuals.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> (Their tort reforms effectively releasing big Pharma further from liability
>  >> could possibly cause more damage in the long run, societally. . . )
>  >>
>  >> Sent from my iPhone 3GS, It doesn't chat!
>  >>
>  >>
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