[Peace-discuss] Online activism...

Thu Jul 25 23:38:59 UTC 2013

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On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:28 PM, Stephen Francis <stephenf1113 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am in no way denying that the gas chambers existed. The holocaust is real and well documented. 

> Official Jewish reports now are around three million not six. It could be less but not substantially.
> I am just open to looking at all sides of the issue of the Zionists over the last 250 years. I've looked at their involvement in the Russian revolutions, investments in Middle East resources (Dead Sea minerals), Rothschild plans to occupy and takeover Palestine beginning in the 1850's, war profiteering including the American revolution, and dominance of world finances through the Central Banks with fractional reserve banking schemes.  It was not in there interest to have 6 million Jews killed.  They needed to populate their investments in Palestine to exploit the resources of the Middle East.  The holocaust was just a convenient way to get Jews out of Germany.  60 million people died in WWII.  It is highly possible that 1-3 million Jews died in prison camps, ghettos, firing squads, and gas chambers.  Many people including Jews and Americans could have stopped this if they wanted to but didn't.  One of my important sources is Arthur Sutton.  He was a Stanford professor who was fired basically for getting too close to the truth of the West's exploitation and involvement (Bush, Harriman etc) in Hitler's and Russia's and even Italy's (Fiat) war machines.  Follow the money they say.  Sutton's research is impeccable and will stand the test of time. As they say ... history is recorded by the winners and modern history does not include much of Sutton's work for a reason.  Western history textbooks are a bunch of BS to cover all the profit made in World Wars.  Sadly, millions of people including Jews (not Zionists) were the fodder of this machine.  I now can just refer to David Johnson's post on these issues.  http://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=c4a9d8leohkqu#mail
> Thank you
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> From: David Gehrig <david-cu at nukulele.org>
> To: Stephen Francis <stephenf1113 at yahoo.com> 
> Cc: Peace-discuss List <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> 
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Online activism...
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> I have again removed Occupy CU from the reply list, as it is it a discussion list. 
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> Now, let me give you a for-instance about why your reply is insufficient. 
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> You have posted videos saying the Jews made up all that stuff about there being gas chambers at Auschwitz. 
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> Does that strike you as an even marginally defensible position? 
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> On Jul 25, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Stephen Francis <stephenf1113 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> It can easily be proven that Zionist's murdered 3000 people on 9/11.  Thirty percent of the world's population is convinced of this.  The tide is turning.  I'm not antisemitic.  I'm anti Zionist. and also not a holocaust denier, but a holocaust revisionist.  The world also is waking up to the fact that the Zionists have used the holocaust to advance their politically and financial ends like no others in the history of the world.  Their have been countless genocides and only the Zionists use for gain.... Period.
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>> From: David Gehrig <david-cu at nukulele.org>
>> To: Stephen Francis <stephenf1113 at yahoo.com> 
>> Cc: ocCUpy <occupyCU at lists.chambana.net>; Peace-discuss List <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Online activism...
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>> I see your News Follow-Up site still says that "the Holocaust is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind" and still links to videos from the world's leading Holocaust deniers.
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>> Which is to say, you still have an overtly antisemitic site. 
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>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Stephen Francis <stephenf1113 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> Hello all.  This post concerns the issue of whether spending a lot of time posting things on Facebook or local discussion lists is a productive thing to do in the world of social justice and activism.
>>> Yesterday (July 24th)a staffer at the Facebook page 'Prepare to Take America Back' made a link to a page of my website NewsFollowUp.com http://www.newsfollowup.com/obama_body_count_obama_death_list_re-election_cia_gay.htm concerning a list that is known as the Obama Body Count...etc.  The link garnered 121 shares and 174 likes in just a few hours (see http://www.newsfollowup.com/facebook.html.)  This is quite difficult to do as you all know on Facebook.  Prepare to Take America Back is a right wing conservative page that I actually don't like, but at this point any credible political attack from either side of the isle on Obama is needed.  As Jimmy Carter recently put it: "We know longer have a functioning democracy". Anyway, Prepare to Take America Back Facebook has about 120,000 likes and 216,000 people 'talking about this'.  This is nationally substantial.  It is very encouraging to me that my work is seen by people in these numbers. 
>>> NewsFollowUp.com http://www.newsfollowup.com/index.html enjoys about 50,000 to 100,000 page views per month and about 10% of  NFU viewers spend almost 600 hours per month on the site..  But this is nothing compared to the 20 million or so per month that Fox News has.  ...but...  from what I can tell, the average Facebook post gets one or two likes/shares per post if any at all.  I (Facebook name Occupy Occupy) have about 4700 Facebook friends and 516 people who 'follow' me and occasionally my posts will get shared a dozen times or so but usually not and many times no shares or likes.  Even someone like the nationally known activist Cindy Sheehan only has a couple of dozen shares and maybe 50-100 likes each on her posts.  My point here is that ... is it worth it to be spending hours and hours online posting remarks that only a few people see?  I think yes is the answer, but only in the context of you being in a sea of protesters doing the same thing.  Individually it is pretty pathetic, but social media on a world wide basis has made a huge difference... ie Egypt, Tunisia...etc.
>>> As you can see from the front page of http://www.newsfollowup.com/index.html my focus is on 9/11 Truth.  I just believe that this is the most important issue in modern times.  It is the 'head of the snake'.  There is mountains of proof that the Cheneys/Bushes/Zionists of the world murdered 3000 people on 9/11 which has ushered in the Patriot Act/NSA/TSA... etc.  2000 engineers and architects of the website http://www.ae911truth.org/ Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth professional prove that 3 WTC towers were demolished with explosives.  We need to put these people in jail.  Working on anything else is important but doesn't threaten them in any way.... they just keep on doing what they do.
>>> Anyway, I'm done.  Thanks for listening.
>>> Steve Francis
>>> NewsFollowUp.com
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