[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] 4th of July - AWARE float (or sink?)

[C. G. Estabrook]

Obama has chosen to prosecute a widening war at least as viciously (and unconstitutionally) as his predecessor - or as Nixon in SE Asia. 

How can we exculpate him and still say we oppose the war? No one made him kill all those people.

--CGE


"Let me tell you what I felt - and maybe some of the rest of you felt - when I saw the pictures of the Bush library dedication. There was a group of men standing there, former presidents, the ones that are alive. Every one of them is a major criminal. A major criminal. Obama is continuing the grand tradition — that shouldn’t be a great surprise. 

"The sentence that came to my mind at the time is from Thomas Jefferson, who said, 'I tremble for my country when I think that God is just, and some day will bring us to his judgment.'" [Noam Chomsky]

 
On Jun 16, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "Szoke, Ronald Duane" <r-szoke at illinois.edu> wrote:

> Wish there were some way to relate our war & racism concerns more directly to the parade's official themes.  I'll walk for whatever theme or slogan is chosen, but hoping it will not be merely the hundredth or thousandth instance of pounding on the demon Obama.  Will probably be at Bloomsday event today around time of the AWARE meeting.
> 
> -- Ron   
> From: Rohn Koester [rohnkoester at gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 8:23 AM
> To: Karen Aram
> Cc: Karen Medina; Szoke, Ronald Duane; Stuart Levy; Peace Discuss; C. G. ESTABROOK; Moonyeen Carlyle; taber, merlin; ocCUpy
> Subject: Re: 4th of July - AWARE float (or sink?)
> 
> Who on the listserv plans to walk in the parade? Help make signs, a banner, and/or a float? I plan to walk and help make.
> 
> From a logistical standpoint, handing out flyers is kind of unworkable -- most of the crowds are set way off from the main roadway, and the parade moves too fast to engage with anyone.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
> We've received a lot of good ideas. I will support and assist in whatever way I can, whatever is decided. I won't unfortunately be available this week as my daughter will be visiting. I should be able to attend the Sunday evening meetings, both tomorrow and next week.
>  
> > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:49:39 -0500
> > Subject: Re: 4th of July - AWARE float (or sink?)
> > From: kmedina67 at gmail.com
> > To: karenaram at hotmail.com
> > CC: r-szoke at illinois.edu; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; cge at shout.net; thenewmoon37 at yahoo.com;rohnkoester at gmail.com; m-taber at illinois.edu; occupycu at lists.chambana.net
> 
> > 
> > > if we had "access" to veterens for peace, or veterans against [the] war[]
> > 
> > In the past, if we create something they really like, they will come
> > and join us.
> > In general, I have heard many veterans prefer to stay away from loud
> > fireworks if there is no pressing need to be near them.
> > 
> > ----
> > 
> > Personally, I love the ideas mentioned, and find them significantly
> > "stop the war on our own citizens" to be different from what other
> > groups intend to do.
> > 
> > -karen evans levy
> 
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