[Peace-discuss] Electioneering / if not "here" then where?

Carl G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Thu Nov 21 01:09:36 UTC 2013


Did she have anything other than guns in mind?


On Nov 20, 2013, at 5:58 PM, E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森 <ewj at pigsqq.org> wrote:

> I never cease to be amazed by how authoritarian Illinois Democrats can be.
> As long as it's you that is subject to the authority, not them.
> 
> One of them, a dried-out emaciated female Democratix told me at one
> Urbana saturday morning event that some of the items in the Bill of Rights
> should be cancelled out.  No doubt they had ceased to exist in her
> etiolated cerebrum.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/21/13 6:31, Karen Medina wrote:
>> Note that it was low middle management. Upper management wasn't
>> present. The co-op, from time to time, forgets to train people on
>> everything -- or assumes because of their education and connections
>> that they know better.
>> 
>> Frankly, I was completely amazed that this particular person did not
>> know. Plus he may have had pressure from somewhere (like a customer
>> complaint) that he wasn't thinking correctly.
>> 
>> -karen medina
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Karen Aram<karenaram at hotmail.com>  wrote:
>>   
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> You did as I knew you would supporting free speech no matter who is
>>> speaking. I'm sorry your Supervisor was angry with you for doing the right
>>> thing, and supporting our democratic rights. Maybe its time we start handing
>>> out copies of the Constitution and Bill of Rights at our table and protests?
>>> 
>>> To be frank I had hoped better of Coop Management, my reason for joining, to
>>> support local owned businesses. However, when they begin behaving as if
>>> "corporations", I am given pause.
>>> 
>>>     
>>>> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:23:17 -0600
>>>> From: kmedina67 at gmail.com
>>>> To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net
>>>>       
>>>     
>>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Electioneering / if not "here" then where?
>>>> 
>>>> A few days ago, I was AGAIN asked by a superior (Keith McKenney this
>>>> time) to go out and ask a petitioner to move along.
>>>> 
>>>> She (the petitioner) was already standing on the public sidewalk and
>>>> she was not blocking the path. She and I reviewed her rights and she
>>>> stayed.
>>>> 
>>>> My superior was quite angry with me. I reviewed the petitioner's
>>>> rights with him but I don't think he was listening.
>>>> 
>>>> It was cold outside, so she only stayed about 15 minutes more.
>>>> 
>>>> I disagreed with her choice of candidate, but the petition was just to
>>>> get the person on the ballot for the primary.
>>>> 
>>>> As a staff member on the clock, I should not sign the petition even if
>>>> I agree with it.
>>>> 
>>>> But defend her rights, on the clock or off, YES.
>>>> 
>>>> Honestly, the Business where people come to petition should be honored
>>>> by having petitioners. It means we are a vital spot close to the
>>>> center of community life.
>>>> 
>>>> -karen medina
>>>> 
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