[Peace-discuss] Academic Freedom Conference ... speakers flying/ driving / Skypeing in from around the country/world.

Fri Apr 25 19:19:40 EDT 2014

Consideration of  ADL and the SPLC and the pro-Zionist neo-cons,
and the anti-(anti-semites) certainly does give one pause.

Is anti-semitism really unjustified?

Why was it that the world hated the objects of anti-semitism so much that
a)  they exiled them
b)  the Hitlerites exterminated an uncountable number of them
c)  the rest of the world let them do it
d)  the characterization of Shylock resonates

Everybody doesn't like something.
But nobody doesnt like Sara Lee.

Everybody thinks that baby chicks are cute and likes them.

Why is it that the "Jews" need an ADL and Ja'kovs and Gehrigs,
but baby chicks are able to
make people like them without doing anything at all?

If I don't like Max Boot and Bloody Bill Kristol, is it because they are 
Jews?
I note that they are indeed Jews.
Chomsky is a Jew also.  Do I like him because he is a Jew?

I admire MLK.  He was notably black.
I detest Mr. Obama and I believe that his supporters are
pityfully confused and deluded, particularly those who defend
him even now.  Is that because Obama's father was a black man?

Racism has nothing to do with it.

Radical Zionism is a sort of quasi-Nazi philosophy and attitude.
Racism has nothing to do with the ability to identify and say that is 
dangerous and evil.
Radical Zionism would be bad no matter who promoted it.
They are mostly Jews, but there are many Jews indeed who oppose radical 
Zionism.

Is it racist to point out that Hitler's Nazis were German?
Is it anti-teutonic?

One of the most racist men in Europe was a Coon.
It's true.

On 4/26/2014 5:47 AM, David Gehrig wrote:
> I'm removing Occupy from the reply list, as it's not a discussion group.
>
> Wrapping antisemitic ideology, up to and including Holocaust denial, 
> in the language of anti-zionism does not magically erase its 
> antisemitism. When Steve Francis does exactly that, as he has done on 
> these lists, then "I'm not an antisemite, only an anti-Zionist" excuse 
> falls apart, and his being on the left, rather than the right, doesn't 
> change that.
>
> So which part do you dispute, that Francis is an antisemite, or that 
> he is on the left?
>
> @%<
>
> On Apr 25, 2014, at 4:25 PM, "David Johnson" 
> <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net <mailto:davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>> 
> wrote:
>
>> " even when that antisemitism is on the left and the Counterpunch 
>> crowd are too ideologically paralyzed to address it."
>> Define WHO and WHERE the " anti-semitism " on the " Left " is Mr. Gehrig.
>> David Johnson
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* David Gehrig <mailto:david-cu at nukulele.org>
>>     *To:* Stephen Francis <mailto:stephenf1113 at yahoo.com>
>>     *Cc:* peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>>     <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> ; occupycu
>>     <mailto:occupyCU at lists.chambana.net>
>>     *Sent:* Friday, April 25, 2014 10:31 AM
>>     *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Academic Freedom Conference ...
>>     speakers flying/ driving / Skypeing in from around the country/world.
>>
>>     The article confirms that Fetzer is unambiguously a Holocaust
>>     denier now. One of at least four appearing at your little
>>     Hate-the-Jew Hootenanny, including you.
>>
>>     Holocaust denial is like a venereal disease; you can trace back
>>     how you got it from Fetzer and Barrett, how Fetzer got it from
>>     Gilad Atzmon; how Atzmon got it from Israel Shamir, and how
>>     Israel Shamir got it from the Jew-conspiracy fantasies of the
>>     brownshirts.
>>
>>     This will be my only reply on the Occupy list, and I make it
>>     because when you first showed up here some of the more
>>     ideological folks here took your "I'm not antisemitic, just
>>     anti-zionist" at face value, despite the David Duke videos on
>>     your web site, and paradoxically attacked those like me who
>>     called your antisemitism out for what it is. By now, it oughta be
>>     clearer than clear that I wasn't "crying wolf" or "trying to
>>     change the subject." The time to discuss antisemitism is when
>>     there is antisemitism, even when that antisemitism is on the left
>>     and the Counterpunch crowd are too ideologically paralyzed to
>>     address it.
>>
>>     @%<
>>
>>     On Apr 25, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Stephen Francis
>>     <stephenf1113 at yahoo.com <mailto:stephenf1113 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>>     Doors open at 9am,  Illini Union, Room 314A, Sat. the 26th.
>>>     Here's Jim Fetzer's latest article:
>>>
>>>
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