[Peace-discuss] How the US is Arming Both Sides of the Iraqi Conflict

David Johnson via Peace-discuss peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Sat Aug 23 08:43:28 EDT 2014


Roger,

This article was the first I have read / seen from Global Research. I 
will do some investigating and see if your point has merit.

But you did NOT answer the 2nd  question I asked you.

What do you consider as reliable sources of information ?

David Johnson

On 8/22/2014 6:40 PM, Roger Helbig wrote:
> I absolutely consider Global Research, which has 169 hits for Moret 
> (probably all citing or written by Leuren K Moret) to be totally 
> unreliable - I also recall their having made claim that the Indian 
> Ocean earthquake was caused by Israeli frogmen planting a nuclear bomb 
> on the fault and then detonating it - I think I may still have that in 
> old Outlook or Outlook Express e-mail files - my position is that 
> anyone pretending to be a research institution, which this is not - it 
> is one professor with no support from his university - or news source 
> should not manufacture news or dispense lies - Global Research has 
> done that as long as I have known them so for at least a decade - they 
> agree with your anti-Israel views, so you think that they are OK - but 
> I don't think you espouse outright Neo Nazis like Stephen does -
>
> ISIS is most likely using a combination of US and former Soviet 
> equipment that they captured from Iraqi and Syrian army - the US has 
> not been sending arms to ISIS, but once a lie is told often enough, it 
> somehow becomes the truth to people like you who want to believe.
>
> Here are just the first of the 169 Moret hits in their search 
> feature.  None of them are worth the digital space that they are 
> contained in.
>
> About 169 results (0.22 seconds)
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> From Hiroshima to Iraq, 61 years of uranium wars | Global Research 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/from-hiroshima-to-iraq-61-years-of-uranium-wars/5949>
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/from-hiroshima-to-iraq-61-years-of.../5949 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/from-hiroshima-to-iraq-61-years-of.../5949>
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/from-hiroshima-to-iraq-61-years-of-uranium-wars/5949>
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> From Hiroshima to Iraq, 61 years of uranium wars | Global Research 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/from-hiroshima-to-iraq-61-years-of-uranium-wars/5949>
> From Hiroshima to Iraq, 61 years of uranium wars. A suicidal, 
> genocidal, omnicidal course. By Leuren *Moret*. Global Research, June 
> 12, 2007. San Francisco ...
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/from-hiroshima-to-iraq-61-years-of.../5949 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/from-hiroshima-to-iraq-61-years-of.../5949>
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> The Pentagon's fiery crucibles of war by Leuren *Moret* 
> <http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR303A.html>
> globalresearch.ca <http://globalresearch.ca>
> globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR303A.html 
> <http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR303A.html>
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> The Pentagon's fiery crucibles of war by Leuren *Moret* 
> <http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR303A.html>
> Mar 13, 2003 *...* The Pentagon has announced that "shock and awe" 
> will be the strategy for Gulf War II, dropping ten times the amount of 
> bombs and munitions ...
> globalresearch.ca <http://globalresearch.ca>
> globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR303A.html 
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> Explaining How Depleted Uranium Is Killing Civilians, Soldiers *...* 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/explaining-how-depleted-uranium-is-killing-civilians-soldiers-land/6009?print=1>
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/explaining-how-depleted...is.../6009?. 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/explaining-how-depleted...is.../6009?.>..
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> Explaining How Depleted Uranium Is Killing Civilians, Soldiers *...* 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/explaining-how-depleted-uranium-is-killing-civilians-soldiers-land/6009?print=1>
> Jun 17, 2007 *...* Leuren *Moret*, a Berkeley-based geo-scientist with 
> expertise in atmospheric dust, corresponds with AFP on DU issues. 
> Recently *Moret* provided ...
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/explaining-how-depleted...is.../6009?. 
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> Radioactive Ammunition Fired in Middle East May Claim More Lives *...* 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/radioactive-ammunition-fired-in-middle-east-may-claim-more-lives-than-hiroshima-and-nagasaki/7410?print=1>
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
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> Radioactive Ammunition Fired in Middle East May Claim More Lives *...* 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/radioactive-ammunition-fired-in-middle-east-may-claim-more-lives-than-hiroshima-and-nagasaki/7410?print=1>
> Nov 22, 2007 *...* *Moret* is an independent U.S. scientist formerly 
> employed for five years at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory 
> and also at the Lawrence ...
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/radioactive-ammunition.../7410?...1 
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> CRG -- "OSAMAGATE" - Global Research 
> <http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR111A.html>
> globalresearch.ca <http://globalresearch.ca>
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> <http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR111A.html>
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> CRG -- "OSAMAGATE" - Global Research 
> <http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR111A.html>
> by Leuren *Moret*. SAN FRANCISCO BAY VIEW, November 7, 2001. Centre 
> for Research on Globalisation (CRG) at globalresearch.ca 
> <http://globalresearch.ca>, Montréal, 19 November ...
> globalresearch.ca <http://globalresearch.ca>
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> 11,000 US soldiers dead from DU poisoning | Global Research 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/11-000-us-soldiers-dead-from-du-poisoning/443?print=1>
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/11-000-us-soldiers-dead-from-du.../443?. 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/11-000-us-soldiers-dead-from-du.../443?.>..
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> 11,000 US soldiers dead from DU poisoning | Global Research 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/11-000-us-soldiers-dead-from-du-poisoning/443?print=1>
> Feb 27, 2005 *...* "He, and the Bush administra11,ooo US soldiers dead 
> from DU.ems tion have been hiding these facts, but now, thanks to 
> *Moret's* report, ...
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> Depleted Uranium: The Trojan Horse of Nuclear War | Global *...* 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-the-trojan-horse-of-nuclear-war/709>
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-the-trojan-horse-of.../709 
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> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-the-trojan-horse-of-nuclear-war/709>
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> Depleted Uranium: The Trojan Horse of Nuclear War | Global *...* 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-the-trojan-horse-of-nuclear-war/709>
> Jul 8, 2004 *...* Table 1: Compiled by Leuren *Moret* from Interviews 
> with Gulf War Vets and their families. GENERAL. abnormal births and 
> birth defects
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
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> Depleted Uranium Death Toll among US War Veterans Tops 11,000 *...* 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-death-toll-among-us-war-veterans-tops-11-000/3620?print=1>
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-death-toll.../3620?. 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-death-toll.../3620?.>..
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> Depleted Uranium Death Toll among US War Veterans Tops 11,000 *...* 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-death-toll-among-us-war-veterans-tops-11-000/3620?print=1>
> Oct 29, 2006 *...* "However, a special report published by eminent 
> scientist Leuren *Moret* naming depleted uranium as the definitive 
> cause of 'Gulf War ...
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-death-toll.../3620?. 
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> Uranium bombing in Iraq contaminates Europe | Global Research 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/uranium-bombing-in-iraq-contaminates-europe/2195?print=1>
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/uranium-bombing-in-iraq.../2195?print=1 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/uranium-bombing-in-iraq.../2195?print=1>
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> Uranium bombing in Iraq contaminates Europe | Global Research 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/uranium-bombing-in-iraq-contaminates-europe/2195?print=1>
> Mar 27, 2006 *...* Famed former Lawrence Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab 
> scientist Leuren *Moret* has spoken about the dangers of so-called 
> "depleted ...
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/uranium-bombing-in-iraq.../2195?print=1 
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> Inside Guantanamo Concentration Camp: 
> <http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR401A.html>
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> <http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR401A.html>
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> Inside Guantanamo Concentration Camp: 
> <http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR401A.html>
> Jan 6, 2004 *...* by Leuren *Moret* ..... Leuren *Moret* is an 
> independent scientist and international expert on radiation and public 
> health. She testified on the health ...
> globalresearch.ca <http://globalresearch.ca>
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> Depleted uranium: Dirty bombs, dirty missiles, dirty bullets 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR408A.html>
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> www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR408A.html 
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> Depleted uranium: Dirty bombs, dirty missiles, dirty bullets 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR408A.html>
> by Leuren *Moret*. SF Bayview, 18 August 2004. www.globalresearch.ca 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca> 21 August 2004. The URL of this article 
> is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ MOR408A.
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> Depleted Uranium is WMD | Global Research 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-is-wmd/3053>
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-is-wmd/3053 
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> Depleted Uranium is WMD | Global Research 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-is-wmd/3053>
> Aug 23, 2006 *...* Leuren *Moret* is an international radiation 
> specialist, with a B.S. degree in geology from University of 
> California at Davis, a M.A. degree in Near ...
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
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> Depleted Uranium, Diabetes, Cancer And You | Global Research 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-diabetes-cancer-and-you/4508>
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-diabetes-cancer-and-you/4508 
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> Depleted Uranium, Diabetes, Cancer And You | Global Research 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-diabetes-cancer-and-you/4508>
> Jan 18, 2007 *...* Leuren *Moret* is an independent American scientist 
> who works on ... As the Trojan Horse of nuclear war, *Moret* calls DU 
> "the weapon that keeps ...
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
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> Weapons Used and Targets Hit in Israeli Bombing Raids | Global *...* 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/weapons-used-and-targets-hit-in-israeli-bombing-raids/3052>
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> Weapons Used and Targets Hit in Israeli Bombing Raids | Global *...* 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/weapons-used-and-targets-hit-in-israeli-bombing-raids/3052>
> By Leuren *Moret*. Global Research, August 23, 2006. 23 August 2006. 
> Theme: Militarization and WMD. In-depth Report: Nuclear War, THE WAR 
> ON LEBANON.
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/weapons-used-and-targets-hit-in-israeli.../3052 
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> Chernobyl: The Horrific Legacy | Global Research 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/chernobyl-the-horrific-legacy/13349?print=1>
> www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca>
> www.globalresearch.ca/chernobyl-the-horrific-legacy/13349?...1 
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> Chernobyl: The Horrific Legacy | Global Research 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/chernobyl-the-horrific-legacy/13349?print=1>
> Apr 25, 2009 *...* The dramatic and heart-wrenching photos of infants 
> and children that accompany Mittica's book and Leuren *Moret's* 
> articles need far wider ...
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> Centre for Research on Globalisation 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/archives/ARC408.html>
> Depleted uranium: Dirty bombs, dirty missiles, dirty bullets A death 
> sentence here and abroad, Leuren *Moret*, 21 Aug. Military spending 
> nears $1 trillion, Thalif ...
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> Centre for Research on Globalisation 
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> ***Depleted Uranium: The Trojan Horse of Nuclear War, Leuren *Moret*, 
> 9 July. *** US occupation "hands over" Iraq to lethal puppet regime, 
> Larry Chin, 8 July.
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> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-far-worse-than-9-11/2374?print=1>
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> Depleted Uranium -- Far Worse Than 9/11 | Global Research 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-far-worse-than-9-11/2374?print=1>
> May 3, 2006 *...* "Exposure pathways for depleted uranium can be 
> through the skin, by inhalation, and ingestion," writes Lauren 
> *Moret*, another DU researcher.
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> Engineers Knew Fukushima Might Be Unsafe, But Covered It Up *...* 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/engineers-knew-fukushima-might-be-unsafe-but-covered-it-up/27624?print=1>
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> Engineers Knew Fukushima Might Be Unsafe, But Covered It Up *...* 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca/engineers-knew-fukushima-might-be-unsafe-but-covered-it-up/27624?print=1>
> Nov 12, 2011 *...* In 2004, Leuren *Moret* warned in the Japan Times 
> of the exact type of nuclear catastrophe that Japan is now 
> experiencing: Of all the places in ...
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> Global Research <http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR502A.html>
> Electromagnetic Harassment against. Those Who oppose the New World 
> Order. by Leuren *Moret*. February 2005. www.globalresearch.ca 
> <http://www.globalresearch.ca> February 2005.
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> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:00 AM, David Johnson 
> <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net <mailto:davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>> 
> wrote:
>
>     Oh really ?
>
>     How is it not a reliable source ?
>
>     What information sources to do you consider reliable ?
>
>     David Johnson
>
>     On 8/22/2014 9:43 AM, Roger Helbig wrote:
>>     Global Research is not a reliable source of information - it
>>     should not be cited as a source by anyone who actually cares
>>     anything about the truth - David, you should know better instead
>>     of becoming a propagandist yourself.
>>
>>
>>     On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 6:59 AM, David Johnson via Peace-discuss
>>     <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>>     <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>>
>>           * Ferguson: No Justice in the American Police State
>>             <http://www.globalresearch.ca/ferguson-no-justice-in-the-american-police-state/5396838>
>>           * Comprehensive Data on Palestinian Deaths in Gaza (July 6
>>             -- August 17, 2014)
>>             <http://www.globalresearch.ca/comprehensive-data-on-palestinian-deaths-in-gaza-july-6-august-17-2014/5396579>
>>           * Ukraine Crisis Continues
>>             <http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-crisis-continues/5396693>
>>           * How to Start a War: The American Use of War Pretext
>>             Incidents
>>             <http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-to-start-a-war-the-american-use-of-war-pretext-incidents/28554>
>>           * Provocations as Pretexts for Imperial War: From Pearl
>>             Harbor to 9/11
>>             <http://www.globalresearch.ca/provocations-as-pretexts-for-imperial-war-from-pearl-harbor-to-9-11/9063>
>>           * Afghanistan and Iraq: it's the Same War
>>             <http://www.globalresearch.ca/afghanistan-and-iraq-it-s-the-same-war/5511>
>>
>>
>>             How the US is Arming Both Sides of the Iraqi Conflict
>>
>>         By Tyler Durden
>>         <http://www.globalresearch.ca/author/tyler-durden>
>>         Global Research, June 13, 2014
>>         Zero Hedge
>>         <http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-12/how-us-arming-both-sides-iraqi-conflict>
>>         12 June 2014
>>         Region: Middle East & North Africa
>>         <http://www.globalresearch.ca/region/middle-east>, USA
>>         <http://www.globalresearch.ca/region/usa>
>>         Theme: 9/11 & 'War on Terrorism'
>>         <http://www.globalresearch.ca/theme/9-11-war-on-terrorism>,
>>         Militarization and WMD
>>         <http://www.globalresearch.ca/theme/militarization-and-wmd>
>>         In-depth Report: IRAQ REPORT
>>         <http://www.globalresearch.ca/indepthreport/iraq-report>
>>         651
>>         67 11
>>         1346
>>         american flag skulls war missile
>>
>>         /Recall a week ago we wrote "US Begins Delivering F-16s To
>>         Iraq This Week, A Decade After It Wiped Out Iraq's Air Force
>>         <http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-04/us-begins-delivering-f-16s-iraq-week-decade-after-it-wiped-out-its-air-force>"
>>         in which we said:/
>>
>>             ... the US will deliver the first of 36 F-16 fighter jets
>>             to Iraq in what Baghdad's envoy to the United States
>>             called a "new chapter" in his country's ability to defend
>>             its vast borders with Iran and other neighbors. ....the
>>             US earlier in March provided Iraq with some 100 Hellfire
>>             missiles as well as assault rifles and other ammunition.
>>             Then in April the US sent more arms, providing Iraq with
>>             11 million rounds of ammunition and other supplies.
>>
>>         It is unknown how many of these have fallen into Al
>>         Qaeda/ISIS hands (we do know that at least one Iraqi Black
>>         Hawk chopper was captured during the rush for Mosul). What is
>>         known is that as PBS Frontline reported two weeks ago, while
>>         the administration has denied arming Syrian "rebels", i.e.
>>         the same ISIS militants that have crossed the border and are
>>         now fighting in Iraq...
>>
>>         <http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/06/iraq_syria-isis-activity_al_qaeda.jpg>
>>
>>         ... the reality is that it has. From: "Obama Says Not Arming
>>         Syrian Rebels, Syrian Rebels Say He Is
>>         <http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-28/someone-lying-obama-says-not-arming-syrian-rebels-yet-syrian-rebels-disagree>"
>>
>>             ... the Syrian rebels themselves say they are already
>>             armed and trained by US in the use of sophisticated
>>             weapons and fighting techniques, including, one rebel
>>             said, "how to finish off soldiers still alive after an
>>             ambush." The interviews are the latest evidence that
>>             after more than three years of warfare, the United States
>>             has stepped up the provision of lethal aid to the rebels,
>>             as PBS notes "it appears the Obama administration is
>>             allowing select groups of rebels to receive US-made
>>             anti-tank missiles."  The commander of the unit also told
>>             Ali that their American contacts had asked him to bring
>>             80 to 90 members of his unit to Ankara for training. One
>>             of the fighters said they received three weeks of
>>             training in how to conduct ambushes, conduct raids and
>>             use their weapons. They also said they received new
>>             uniforms and boots. "They trained us to ambush regime or
>>             enemy vehicles and cut off the road," said the fighter,
>>             who is identified only as "Hussein." "They also trained
>>             us on how to attack a vehicle, raid it, retrieve
>>             information or weapons and munitions, and how to finish
>>             off soldiers still alive after an ambush."
>>
>>         To summarize: the US was arming and training the same Al
>>         Qaeda/ISIS groups of Jihadists, that it concurrently gave
>>         Iraq weapons to fight. And since the Iraq army has so far
>>         proven utterly incapable of any resistance, it is now up to
>>         US drones to "fight" the same "rebels" that the US itself was
>>         collaborating with until a month or so ago.
>>
>>         The clear winner here? The US military-industrial complex, of
>>         course, as well as the banks who lend money to the
>>         governments to fight wars provoked by various "developed
>>         nation" spy agencies.
>>
>>         Collateral damage? Millions of innocent people on the ground
>>         in Syria and Iraq, and everywhere else too.
>>
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