[Peace-discuss] Obama rejects Senate war authorization as ‘too limiting’

C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Sun Dec 14 00:22:16 EST 2014


But his lies were effective in co-opting the anti-war movement:

<http://www.counterpunch.org/2005/09/29/illinois-anti-warriors-and-the-attractive-senator/>.

The USG would have had trouble keeping its war going if he hadn't done so.

That's part of what Glen Ford meant by pointing out that Obama was "not the lesser evil but the more effective evil."

But don't crush that deontological dwarf: hand me and the rest of the antiwar movement the pliers...

--CGE

On Dec 13, 2014, at 10:56 PM, ewj via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> Obama was a damn liar when he ran for the Senate.
> 
> I remember seeing him on TV.
> 
> I was pissed at Nikola Tesla for nearly five minutes after that.
> 
> I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
> 
> I saw Zakaria on CNN this morning getting a fairly hostile
> interview from some guy who was tortured by the US government.
> The guy squirmed a bit and obviously has some connections with the "bad guys"
> that the US government hates.  He said that he had some criticisms for ISIS and the Taliban.
> But he also said "ISIS and the Taliban never tortured me".
> 
> *
> The United States is largely a warlike people.
> Their foundation is in war, and they are proud of it
> and they idolize and lionize their chieftains of war.
> 
> Ya don't need Magritte and Dali to get yer dose of surrealism.
> 
> Just turn on CNN or Fox.  You want vanilla or strawberry?
> 
> 
> On 12/14/2014 11:59 AM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote:
>> http://news.antiwar.com/2014/12/12/white-house-rejects-senate-isis-war-bill-as-too-limiting/
>> 
>> Obama became president with the support of the anti-war movement and those Americans (a majority) who disapproved of Bush's war in the Mideast.
>> 
>> There were those in the movement who said he was lying, and unfortunately they were correct. His lies managed to co-opt and largely destroy the anti-war movement.
>> 
>> The crimes of Bush-Obama approach those of Kennedy-Johnson. And they obviously aren't over.
>> 
>> --CGE
>> 
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