[Peace-discuss] Real divisions within Democrat & Republican parties

Tue Jan 28 16:08:13 UTC 2014

Pretty accurate, I'm afraid.

The 1% are promoting "Ready for Hillary" stickers now.

They'd probably work on your front bumper too. 

On Jan 28, 2014, at 9:56 AM, <ewj at pigsqq.org> <ewj at pigsqq.org> wrote:

> 
> I don't quite trust the Paul the Younger to possess the principles of his 
> old man, and I indeed consider Rand Who? quite capable of pulling a Bait-
> and-Switch like the famous "W" one, and others you recount.
> 
> Nevertheless, Rand Who? is not an insider with the 1% and could ask some 
> hard questions and will certainly polarize some insiders against him and 
> will have some interesting things to say.
> 
> The GOP insiders can't hate Rand Who? the way they hated Ron Paul.  Ron 
> Paul could see right through them.  Rand Who? is enough more like the Neo-
> cons that the GOP doesn't hate him entirely.  He's not exactly anti-war.
> I dont think I will be putting any "Rand" stickers on my Great Wall Sai-
> Ying (it's a kind of quasi-Jeep that I drive).
> 
> But If I could find them stickers as says "Run, Hillary. Run!"... Hey, I'd 
> put two or 3 on the Front.
> 
> 
>> -------Original Message-------
>> From: C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com>
>> To: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
>> Cc: sftalk at yahoogroups.com <sftalk at yahoogroups.com> 
> <sftalk at yahoogroups.com>, occupycu <occupyCU at lists.chambana.net>
>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Real divisions within Democrat & Republican 
> parties
>> Sent: Jan 27 '14 23:11
>> 
>> From the Politico article below: "The divisions are far starker in the 
> GOP,
>> with competing libertarian [=anti-war] and national security [=pro-war]
>> wings battling for the future direction of the Republican Party."
>> 
>> The Democrats' anti-war wing [e.g. Dennis Kucinich] was effectively 
> purged
>> by Obama's mendacious co-option of the anti-war movement, and the
>> Republicans were almost as successful in suppressing their anti-war 
> wing,
>> the Ron Paulists - but not quite.
>> 
>> So the 2016 presidential election may pit a pro-war Democrat [Hillary
>> Clinton? - the most bellicose member of the Obama administration] 
> against
>> an anti-war Republican [Rand Paul? - not so consistently anti-war as his
>> father]. But that may not make much difference in whom our government 
> kills
>> (in our name, for the profit of the 1%).
>> 
>> Remember that the Democrats were given control of Congress in 2006 in 
> order
>> to bring the Mideast war to an end (as they recognized), and 
> Congressional
>> Democrats had to pretend that they were doing it - while continuing to 
> vote
>> for war in our name, for the profit of the 1%...
>> 
>> Many of the people who voted for Obama in 2008 thought they were voting 
> for
>> an anti-war candidate against the pro-war McCain. Obama was lying, but 
> many
>> Americans refused to believe that, even after he expanded the war - and
>> made it even more vicious with drones and US death squads (SOCOM - see
>> Jeremy Scahill's 'Dirty Wars').
>> 
>> Defense Secretary Robert Gates' new book shows both Clinton and Obama
>> pretending to be anti-war during the 2008 primaries (specifically, 
> opposing
>> the Bush/Petraeus "surge" of killing in Iraq) because they knew the 
> public
>> was becoming increasingly anti-war. Gates makes clear that they were 
> both
>> lying (or, as he says, "being political").
>> 
>> We forget that Republican candidates have frequently run (and won) by
>> opposing the wars of an incumbent Democratic administration - always a
>> popular position, which they then betrayed:
>> 
>> ~2000: GWBush runs against the Clinton/Gore war in Serbia, saying he
>> opposed foreign 'nation building';
>> 
>> ~1968: Richard Nixon runs against the Johnson/Humphrey war in Vietnam,
>> saying that he had a 'secret plan' to end the war;
>> 
>> ~1952: Dwight Eisenhower runs against Truman's war in Korea, saying, "I
>> will go to Korea!"
>> 
>> Still, the possible emergence of an anti-war, anti-Wall Street 
> Republican
>> party has got to worry the Democrats - pro-war and pro-Wall Street as 
> they
>> are - because they know that Obama and Clinton, minions of the 1%, are 
> on
>> the wrong side of popular sentiment. They may have trouble lying their 
> way
>> out of it.
>> 
>> 
>> --CGE
>> 
>> 
>> Candidates of both parties run vs. NSA
>> 
>> 
>> ·
>> 
>> By [LINK: http://www.politico.com/reporters/ManuRaju.html] MANU RAJU |
>> 1/26/14 11:22 PM EST  				 Updated: 1/27/14 
> 6:56 AM EST
>> 
>> 
>> Edward Snowden’s leaks didn’t just cause turmoil in the U.S.
>> intelligence community, prompt international backlash toward President
>> Barack Obama and revive a debate in Congress over civil liberties.
>> 
>> They spawned a whole new breed on the 2014 campaign trail: The
>> anti-National Security Agency candidate...
>> Read more: [LINK:
>> http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/candidates-of-both-parties-run-vs-
> nsa-102628.html]
>> http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/candidates-of-both-parties-run-vs-
> nsa-102628.html#ixzz2rbhtBlNf
>> 
>> 
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