[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] ISIS trained by US reports Examiner, PressTV, Reuters, Der Spiegel

Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Thu Jul 10 22:15:54 EDT 2014



"Bandar's name is reportedly contained in the still-classified 28 pages from the Joint Congressional 9/11 Inquiry report on Saudi Arabia's role in the 9/11 attack. Attempts to have the 28 pages declassified has met with strong opposition from Brennan and the CIA, as well as the Obama White House."


July 2-3, 2014 -- "Bandar Bush" is back calling the shots on ISIL advance through Iraq - Wayne Madsen Report


Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the godfather behind the creation of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), now called the "Islamic State" or "Islamic Caliphate," has returned to an influential position advising King Abdullah after being sacked as Saudi intelligence chief last April. Bandar's new title is "adviser to the King and his special envoy." Bandar had never actually left the Saudi inner circle. After being dismissed as intelligence chief in April, he retained his position as secretary general of the Saudi National Security Council, a position similar to that held by Susan Rice as the White House National Security Adviser and director of the National Security Council.

Bandar's restoration to favor within the House of Saud came as King Abdullah appointed the recently-fired deputy defense minister, Prince Khaled bin Bandar bin Abdul Aziz, as the new chief of Saudi intelligence. It took only two days for Khaled from being fired as deputy defense minister, a job he held for only 45 days, to being named as Saudi intelligence chief. The shuffle came about to ensure that key Saudi defense and intelligence officials are on the same page when it comes to reasserting control over ISIL as it continues to advance toward Baghdad.

However, the House of Saud has been a major bank roller of ISIL since the beginning of their roles in Syria's civil war. The Al Nusra Front (Jabhat al-Nusra), on the other hand, has been mainly funded by Qatar. However, the Al Nusra Front, far from being a rival to ISIL, has pledged its support for the group as its forces spread across northern and western Iraq. 

The actual aim of Saudi Arabia is to destabilize Iraq and Syria, hoping that the Nouri al-Maliki and Bashar al Assad governments, respectively, will be overthrown and replaced with radical Sunni regimes beholden to the Saudis.

Bandar, who is widely credited for arming and financing radical jihadists in the Syrian opposition rebel army against so-called "moderate" Syrian opposition forces, was forced out as Saudi intelligence chief after President Barack Obama met with King Abdullah in Riyadh on March 28. Bandar's duties as the chief Saudi interlocutor with Syria's rebels was transferred to Saudi Interior Minister Prince Mohammed bin Nayef. Those duties will now be assumed by Prince Khaled. Prince Mohammed helped steer Saudi support to the U.S.-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA), which has become a second-tier and weak player in the Syrian civil war. FSA officials, many of whom are exiled former government officials in the Assad government, are more comfortable in Istanbul hotels and restaurants than on the front lines in Syria. However, after the success of ISIL in eastern Syria and Iraq, the Saudis decided to bring back ISIL's main interlocutor, Prince Bandar, to bring the group's
 leadership under firmer Saudi control. 

Bandar has had long ties to Jihadist terrorism. Bandar, on a pre-Sochi Olympics trip to Moscow, offered Russia a lucrative weapons deal if Russia ceased its support for Assad. Bandar also told Putin that if Russia rejected Saudi Arabia's offer,  Saudi-backed Islamist terrorists in the Caucasus region would be free to launch terrorist attacks on the Winter Olympics in Sochi. Putin reportedly ordered Bandar out of his office in the Kremlin. There are also reports that Saudi-financed Islamist terrorists from Chechnya and Dagestan have been active in Ukraine fighting against Russian-speaking separatists in eastern Ukraine. In some cases, Islamist terrorists have joined Israeli paramilitary units in Ukraine in support of the Kiev government's military actions against eastern Ukraine. In Syria, there have been reports of Mossad coordination with ISIL units in attacks against Syrian government forces, including in the region north of the Golan Heights.

Bandar's name is reportedly contained in the still-classified 28 pages from the Joint Congressional 9/11 Inquiry report on Saudi Arabia's role in the 9/11 attack. Attempts to have the 28 pages declassified has met with strong opposition from Brennan and the CIA, as well as the Obama White House. Former Senator Bob Graham (D-FL), who chaired the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time the report was written, has called for the 28 pages to be made public. A reliable source told WMR that Graham was cold-shouldered when he visited the White House last year to press for full disclosure. Graham was shuffled off to meet with a low-level White House staffer. 

CIA director John O. Brennan, a Saudophile and former CIA station chief in Riyadh, is, according to our sources, behind the restoration of Bandar to a key position in the Saudi government. Some 1000 U.S. troops and advisers have been dispatched to Iraq not to prevent the Maliki government from falling but to assist in the transition to a post-Maliki government that will have strong pro-Saudi and Sunni representation. The U.S. military personnel are also in Iraq to protect U.S. assets in the country, including the massive U.S. embassy complex in Baghdad and U.S. oil industry interests.

There were varying unsubstantiated reports at the time of Bandar's dismissal that he had been assassinated or wounded while visiting rebel-held positions in Syria. Other reports stated that Bandar, affectionately known by the Bush family as "Bandar Bush" because of his close ties to the American political dynasty, was poisoned in an internal Saudi feud aimed at eliminating the influence of Bandar, the chief of the Sudairi clan within the House of Saud. The clan also includes Prince Turki, also a former Saudi intelligence chief, and Crown Prince Salman, the heir apparent to the throne after King Abdullah dies.

Bandar was brought back into a significant position as adviser to King Abdullah in order to carry out the Saudi and Israeli master plan for the region. The Riyadh-Jerusalem axis has agreed that Iraq as a nation must cease to exist. Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu recently publicly endorsed an independent Kurdistan in northern Iraq. The advance of ISIL forces into Iraq has convinced Turkey, long opposed to Kurdish statehood in Iraq, to support the idea or possibly face ISIL in charge of Kurdistan. The Turkish government has also started negotiations with the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' party (PKK), considered a terrorist group by Turkey but now seen as a potential partner for Turkey against an ISIL takeover of Iraqi Kurdistan.

An ISIL on the move also gives Israel a powerful argument for why it must remain in charge of the West Bank. With ISIL changing its name from "Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant" to the more all-encompassing "Islamic State," there is a belief, backed by recent public statements by ISIL leader and self-proclaimed "caliph" Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, that ISIL's plans for an Islamic caliphate include Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine, and beyond. Baghdadi has called for an Islamic revolt from the Central African Republic to Myanmar. For Netanyahu, ISIL's offensive gives him political ammunition for not only maintaining control over the West Bank but in sabotaging the new Palestinian unity government of Fatah and Hamas.

Bandar's goal is to eliminate the current governments of Syria and Iraq, thus depriving Iran of its only two allies in the region. With a radical Sunni caliphate in charge in Baghdad, ISIL will be poised to cross the Iranian border and start a rebellion among Iran's Arab minority in Khuzestan province, the center of Iran's oil industry. With ISIL gaining control of Iraq's southern oil fields as well as part of the fields bordering Iraqi Kurdistan, the takeover by a Saudi proxy of Iran's oil province would give Saudi Arabia effective control over much of the Middle East's oil reserves. The shift of political and economic clout to Riyadh would also eliminate Qatar and its Muslim Brotherhood-aligned government as a serious rival to Saudi regional hegemony.

Bandar not only has Brennan in his corner in Washington but also Senator John McCain (R-AZ) who, while attending the February Munich Security Conference, said, "Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar."  McCain echoed similar comments he made earlier on CNN. In 2012, McCain covertly crossed into Syria from Turkey and was photographed with radical Islamists, some of whom are now fighting with ISIL in Iraq.

    
John McCain: terrorist supporter. McCain with Saudi-funded jihadist guerrillas in Syria [left] and with Ansar al-Sharia guerrillas in Benghazi, Libya [right]. Ansar al-Sharia sent NATO weapons and weapons captured from Muammar Qaddafi arsenals to jihadist guerrillas in Syria. in August 2013, McCain and Senator Lindsey Graham met with Bandar and urged the Saudi intelligence chief to expedite the delivery of weapons from various sources, including Libya, to the Syrian rebels. Bandar only armed the most radical of the Syrian factions, namely ISIL and Jabhat al-Nusra (the Al Nusra Front). Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Martin Dempsey are aware of the activities of McCain and Graham with regard to Bandar, ISIL, and Jabhat al-Nusra and the top two U.S. defense officials have opposed providing U.S. arms to Syrian rebels. President Obama reversed that decision by recently asking Congress to approve $500 million in lethal
 aid for Syrian rebels. Many House members are opposed to arming Syrian rebels for fear that the weapons will end up in the hands of the most radical factions. A House amendment to the 2015 defense spending bill sponsored by Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (R-NE) that would have blocked U.S. weapons for Syrian rebels failed to pass by a 167-244 vote.

  
             
July 2-3, 2014 -- "Bandar Bush" is back calling the shot...
Prince Bandar's goal is to establish radical Sunni states in Syria and Iraq to threaten Iran.  
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On Thursday, July 10, 2014 6:29 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
 


Are you able to be specific?



On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Stan via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

You guys are so wrong the light from wrong can not reach you.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

"C. G. Estabrook via OccupyCU" <occupycu at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

This is consistent US policy, for at least 40 years, Democrat as well as Republican.

The Carter administration (1977-81) invented modern jihadism by rounding up the most fanatical fighters it could find in the Mideast, arming them in the most expensive CIA operation to date, and sending them into Afghanistan (*before* the Russian invasion) "to give the Soviets a Vietnam of their own"!

Carter's Russophobe National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski (also an adviser to Obama's presidential campaign), famously told an interviewer from Le Nouvel Observateur in 1998, "What is most important to the history of the world? ... Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?"

The "few stirred-up Muslims" came to include al-Qaeda and the perpetrators of the 9/11/2001 attacks. 

Divide et impera, the Roman imperial maxim, has guided US attempts to promote conflict and play both sides against the middle in order to secure control of the Mideast energy resources, "the world's greatest material prize," as the US State Department declared in 1945. 

In this century that has meant a purposeful US policy of setting Sunni against Shia in a vicious regional civil war, which had not existed before the US invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. 

--CGE


On Jul 10, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

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> Reports: U.S. trained ISIS fighters in Jordan
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> Reports: U.S. trained ISIS fighters in Jordan
> Citing what it called "informed Jordanian officials," WND reported Tuesday that members of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, or ISIS, were trained b...
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> Citing what it called "informed Jordanian officials," WND reported Tuesday that members of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, or ISIS, were trained by U.S. instructors at a secret base inJordan. According to the report, the training was conducted in 2012 and was intended to help ISIS fight the Assad regime.
> The officials said those receiving training were vetted for links to extremist groups like al-Qaeda.
> WND first reported the training in February 2012. Since then, other media outlets have corroborated those reports. In March 2013, Reuters, citing Der Spiegel, said that some 200 men had received training. The goal was to train about 1,200 fighters of the "Free Syrian Army."
> Those reports did not specify if the instructors were military or civilian, but some reportedly wore uniforms. The training, Reuters added, focused on the use of anti-tank weaponry. It is also unclear how many of those trained are now fighting in Iraq.
> According to Reuters, the UK Guardian also reported the training, adding that British and French instructors participated in the U.S.-led effort. The Guardian, Reuters said, cited unnamed Jordanian security sources, who were also reportedly involved in the program, hoping to "prevent Salafists (radical Islamists) crossing from their own country into Syria and then returning later to stir up trouble in Jordan itself."
> A Defense Department spokesman declined to comment on Der Spiegel's report, Reuters added. France and Britain have also refused to comment on the report.
> WND said Jordanian officials spoke to them out of concerns the sectarian violence in Iraq could spill over into Jordan.
> "ISIS previously posted a video on YouTube threatening to move on Jordan and “slaughter” King Abdullah, whom they view as an enemy of Islam," Aaron Klein said.
> A Shiite source in contact with a highly-placed official in the government of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki reportedly called Obama an "accomplice" in the attacks against the Maliki government and told WND that one training camp is in the vicinity of Incirlik Air Base near Adana, Turkey, where U.S. military personnel are stationed.
> Another report says the Obama administration delivered about 65,000 ready-to-eat meals, or MREs, to Sunni rebels in Aleppo, Syria. Additionally, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday that Obama has ruled out immediate air strikes against ISIS in Iraq. The reason, WSJ said, is lack of intelligence on the ground in Iraq.
> Obama is set to meet with GOP and Democratic leaders Wednesday to brief them on what is being called a "comprehensive approach" to the situation in Iraq.
> “What the president is focused on is a comprehensive strategy, not just a quick military response,” said one senior administration official. “While there may potentially be a military component to it, it’s a much broader effort.”
> Meanwhile, ISIS is reportedly battling Iraqi military forces on the outskirts of Baghdad.
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