[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] ISIS trained by US reports Examiner, PressTV, Reuters, Der Spiegel
C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss
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Sat Jul 12 20:08:08 EDT 2014
'We' are not doing much of a job. The Republican party has an anti-war wing, but Obama has co-opted the Democrats'.
On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Stan via OccupyCU <occupycu at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> So you agree we need to take back the Democratic Party. Thanks
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> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
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> "C. G. Estabrook" <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
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> The Tea Party is the best thing that's happened to the Democrats recently.
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> They can run against it vociferously while continuing to implement neoconservative policies (killing people abroad) and neoliberal policies (impoverishing people at home), both for the profits of the 1%.
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> On Jul 12, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Stan via OccupyCU <occupycu at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>> CC:
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>> Many good points here. The most extreme conservatives have wrapped themselves in the Tea Party and become a driving force in the Republican Party. We need to join together and take back the Democratic Party in a similar way and move the Democratic Party to a more pro democracy party than it is today.
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>> "C. G. Estabrook via OccupyCU" <occupycu at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>> We might quibble over the usage of terms like 'fascist,' but this account is clearly accurate - and important.
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>> Lacking an accurate analysis, the best will in the world can choose the right course only by accident.
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>> --CGE
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>> On Jul 11, 2014, at 10:12 PM, ewjohnson via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>>> The US is a fascist state managed by a well entrenched oligarchy.
>>>
>>> The oligarchy does definitely fear that an organized uprising of the people
>>> may weaken and erode its position resulting in haemorrhage of money,
>>> power, and territory.
>>>
>>> The oligarchy manages the world's largest propaganda and opinion-shaping
>>> and panem et circenses machine that uses every possible measure to achieve its
>>> goals in mollifying the masses and nullifying any effective negativity.
>>>
>>> The oligarchy has chosen to deflect political pressures by allowing the
>>> establishment of a pair of ruling factions. The two ruling factions are
>>> actually essentially the same but the members and supporters and operatives
>>> of each faction believe that they are poles apart in their ideology and goodness,
>>> much like the rival teams and their fans in a sporting contest. Some of them
>>> are true believers in their parties and it is downright comical to to observe
>>> them in motion. Dog-fighting and cock-fighting are considered to be too
>>> brutish for the sensitive and cultured society. Other outlets are provided.
>>>
>>> A complex system of rules and regulations prevents the entrance of significant
>>> new factions that might be supported by the people themselves. For example
>>> the people are encouraged to vote as if it were a patriotic duty, but the candidates
>>> are selected and supported by the oligarchy and its fascist and crony capitalist network,
>>> such that in general it would not matter much who was elected, because the system
>>> has been established to be robust against change. The oligarchy has recognized that
>>> its power and control are not absolute and it is careful not to overextend the most
>>> extreme measures of its force domestically due to fear of a destabilizing outcome.
>>>
>>> The oligarchy extends its tentacles around the world.
>>>
>>> Like a daemon that has wrapped itself around the spine of its host and
>>> has interfaced with the host's body control systems and higher functions,
>>> the daemonic oligarchy has made the people dependent upon it such
>>> that an eviction notice would evoke tremulous and even catastrophic
>>> consequences. The natural guards of liberty have been perverted
>>> unto the protection of the status quo.
>>>
>>> Violent overthrow seems a possible recourse. However, a organized
>>> violent uprising or even the use of passive force by the people is met
>>> with sudden repression by the police state. Afterwards the entrenched
>>> political parties are summoned in to vacuum up any energy generated
>>> by a new uprising.
>>>
>>> It is disturbing to see activists getting their energies sucked up by the Borg
>>> of one of the sham political parties or the other one.
>>>
>> ###
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