[Peace-discuss] Draft flyer for July 20 demo - comments welcomed
Stuart Levy via Peace-discuss
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Sun Jul 20 11:08:06 EDT 2014
Hmm. I agree with you, your original with Shlaim is better than this
with only Kucinich's comments. But I also agree with Karen and Leigh
that the original was longer than ideal - and it would need fairly small
print to fit on one side of a page, though it could certainly be
two-sided. I'll look again to see if anything can be cut and still
have the rest work well.
On 7/20/14 9:59 AM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote:
> Here's another mashup (so to speak). I think I'm still partial to the
> original Shlaim version.
>
> */AWARE ~ The Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana ~ 20
> July 2014/*
>
> *ISRAEL’S MURDERS IN GAZA - OBAMA’S RESPONSIBILITY, AND OURS*
>
> After two weeks of airstrikes the Israeli army (IDF) has invaded Gaza,
> the 140-square mile territory - with 1.8 million people - that it
> surrounds and controls. (Hamas is the party that won a free election
> in the territories occupied by Israel in 2006.)
>
> /“Israel invades Gaza because it can. Gazans, in the face of an
> invasion, have no ability to strike back, while Israel strikes
> forward. Israel has total military superiority, an air force which can
> knock and then bomb, a navy which can shell Gazans from miles off
> shore, an army which can roll tanks into Gaza nonstop. Gazans have no
> army, navy, or air force with which to defend. Israel, as any nation,
> has a right to defend itself, but it confuses offense with defense. It
> is on the offensive in Gaza./
> /“Israel, with its overwhelming military strength, is attacking and
> invading Gaza in violation of international and U.S. law. Its
> construction of settlements violates the Oslo agreement. Its Central
> Bank dries up the Gaza economy and blocks payments to Gazan civil
> servants. Its total control brings the Palestinians to utter
> subjection and total despair./
> /“Israel can kill, injure, and humiliate Palestinians at will, with
> impunity, which is exactly what gave rise to Hamas and strengthens
> Hamas' hold in Gaza, even as the IDF advances. Israel will go door to
> door in Gaza in the hunt for Hamas, which comprises the government of
> the Palestinians and is therefore a necessary party to any peace
> talks. It is axiomatic that if you kill your partner for peace, you
> will have no partner for peace./
> /“There will be no peace, for now, as Gaza is turned into an abattoir
> [a slaughterhouse], to collectively punish Gazans for supporting
> Hamas. Israel, in its attempt to divide Hamas from the Gazans, will
> actually multiply Hamas' strength in Gaza and elsewhere. Israel may
> indeed find and kill Hamas officials. But it is not the current
> individuals who make up Hamas who constitute Israel's deep dilemma,
> which threatens its long term security. It is Israel's policies which
> gave rise to Hamas and which, if left unaltered, will spawn increased
> resistance no matter how many members of Hamas Israel is successful in
> apprehending or killing...” [Dennis Kucinich]/
>
> Who is responsible for the Israeli military assault on Gaza? Many can
> be blamed for Israel’s committing what the Nuremberg Tribunal called
> “the supreme international crime - launching aggressive war” - but the
> final responsibility lies with the President of the United States.
> Without the support - economic, military, political, and diplomatic -
> that the U.S. government provides, Israel’s crimes would not be
> possible. But the U.S. does not provide this support because of undue
> influence from the government of Israel or the Israel lobby. The U.S.
> government supports Israel - and its oppression of Palestinians -
> because Israel is America’s “stationary aircraft carrier” in the Mideast.
> Most Americans think of U.S. war in the Mideast as beginning after
> 9/11/2001, with the American invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, but in
> fact our government has been killing people in the Mideast since the
> Second World War to secure control of what the U.S. State Department
> called then “the world’s greatest material prize,” Mideast gas and
> oil. The U.S. government demands not just access to Mideast energy
> resources but control of them, because a strangle-hold over world
> energy flows gives the U.S. the advantage over its economic rivals in
> Europe and Asia, notably Germany and China.
> President Obama fails to stop Israel’s ongoing murders in Gaza - as he
> could, with a word - because it’s been the policy of all U.S.
> administrations for two generations to allow the Israelis to continue
> their oppression of the Palestinians so long as Israel supports and
> participates in the crimes of its U.S. master.
>
> *It's time for Americans to say no to the child-killers in the U.S.
> and Israeli governments. *
> *Contact the president (202-456-1111) and our representatives in
> Congress (202-224-3121), by phone or online:*
> *President Obama -
> /<http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments>
> /Senator Durbin - /<http://www.durbin.senate.gov/contact.cfm>
> /Senator Kirk - /<http://www.kirk.senate.gov/?p=comment_on_legislation>
> /Representative Davis
> -/</**/https://rodneydavis.house.gov/contact/email-me/**/>/*
>
> /###/
>
>
>
> *//*
> On Jul 20, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com
> <mailto:stuartnlevy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> How about this version? It just fits on a page at this point, in
>> mostly 11- and 12-point type. (It would be good to include
>> Shlaim's final paragraph on what the international community should
>> aim for, but I couldn't see what more to cut elsewhere.)
>>
>> /_*AWARE ~ The Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana ~ 20
>> July 2014*_/
>>
>> *ISRAEL’S MURDERS IN GAZA - OBAMA’S RESPONSIBILITY, AND OURS*
>>
>> After two weeks of airstrikes the Israeli army (IDF) has invaded
>> Gaza, the 140-square mile territory - with 1.8 million people - that
>> it surrounds and controls. (Hamas is the party that won a free
>> election in the territories occupied by Israel in 2006.) More than
>> 300 Palestinians have been killed, and two Israelis.
>>
>> “/*Israel invades Gaza because it can.*… Israel has total military
>> superiority, an air force which can knock and then bomb, a navy which
>> can shell Gazans from miles off shore, an army which can roll tanks
>> into Gaza nonstop. Gazans have no army, navy, or air force with which
>> to defend.*Israel, as any nation, has a right to defend itself, but
>> it confuses offense with defense. It is on the offensive in Gaza.*/
>>
>> “/Israel, with its overwhelming military strength, is attacking and
>> invading Gaza in violation of international and U.S. law. Its
>> construction of settlements violates the Oslo agreement. Its Central
>> Bank dries up the Gaza economy and blocks payments to Gazan civil
>> servants. Its total control brings the Palestinians to utter
>> subjection and total despair./
>>
>> “/Israel will go door to door in Gaza in the hunt for Hamas, which
>> comprises the government of the Palestinians and is therefore a
>> necessary party to any peace talks. It is axiomatic that if you kill
>> your partner for peace, you will have no partner for peace.”
>> –/from*Dennis Kucinich,*in**Huffington
>> Post:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dennis-j-kucinich/israel-invades-gaza_b_5598535.html
>>
>>
>> “.../*What is needed now is an immediate ceasefire. The Egyptian
>> ceasefire proposal of July 15 met Israel's needs but utterly failed
>> to meet the needs of the people of Gaza.*//Israel was consulted
>> before the proposal was announced; Hamas was not./
>>
>> “/The proposal involved a return to the status quo with calm for
>> Israelis but with the people of Gaza continuing to live under a
>> crippling siege. Hamas demands an end to Israeli aggression, the
>> easing of the blockade by Israel and Egypt, and the release of
>> recently rearrested prisoners. It refuses to return to the status quo
>> ante because it is intolerable.” –/*Avi Shlaim, Oxford University*
>>
>> *
>> Who is responsible for the Israeli military assault on Gaza?*Many can
>> be blamed for Israel’s committing what the Nuremberg Tribunal called
>> “the supreme international crime - launching aggressive war” - but
>> the final responsibility lies with the President of the United States.
>>
>> *Without the support - economic, military, political, and diplomatic
>> - that the U.S. government provides, Israel’s crimes would not be
>> possible.*But the U.S. does not provide this support because of undue
>> influence from the government of Israel or the Israel lobby. The
>> U.S. government supports Israel - and its oppression of Palestinians
>> - because Israel is America’s “stationary aircraft carrier” in the
>> Mideast.
>>
>> Most Americans think of U.S. war in the Mideast as beginning after
>> 9/11/2001, with the American invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, but
>> in fact our government has been killing people in the Mideast since
>> the Second World War to secure control of what the U.S. State
>> Department called then “the world’s greatest material prize,” Mideast
>> gas and oil. The U.S. government demands not just access to Mideast
>> energy resources but control of them, because a strangle-hold over
>> world energy flows gives the U.S. the advantage over its economic
>> rivals in Europe and Asia, notably Germany and China.
>>
>> *President Obama fails to stop Israel’s ongoing murders in Gaza - as
>> he could, with a word - because it’s been the policy of all U.S.
>> administrations for two generations to allow the Israelis to continue
>> their oppression of the Palestinians so long as Israel supports and
>> participates in the crimes of its U.S. master.*
>>
>>
>> *It's time for Americans to say no to the child-killers in the U.S.
>> and Israeli governments.
>>
>> Contact the President (202-456-1111) and our Congressional
>> representatives (202-224-3121), or on line at:
>> *
>>
>> *President Obama
>> -*/*<http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments>
>> */*Senator Durbin -*/*<http://www.durbin.senate.gov/contact.cfm>
>> */*Senator Kirk
>> -*/*<http://www.kirk.senate.gov/?p=comment_on_legislation>
>> */*Representative Davis
>> -*/*<https://rodneydavis.house.gov/contact/email-me>*/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/20/14 9:42 AM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote:
>>> I could see substituting the first four paragraphs of Kucinich's
>>> piece for Shlaim's [but I want to explain "abbatoir" - more
>>> 'academic' than Shlaim's vocabulary...].
>>>
>>> But Shlaim's is better, I think, & provides answers for the
>>> arguments we'll get on the street ("Hamas started it...."]. And I
>>> could remove the reference to Oxford.
>>>
>>> And I thought it worthwhile to quote a Jewish scholar.
>>>
>>> Please advise. --CGE
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 20, 2014, at 9:08 AM, Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:stuartnlevy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been trying to shorten Avi Shlaim's piece, which is possible
>>>> but maybe not the best way to do it - he says very good things, but
>>>> the language is pretty academic and liable to put people off from
>>>> quick reading.
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying now to make a mashup of Dennis Kucinich's piece from
>>>> HuffPo, and Avi Shlaim's description of what a cease fire should be
>>>> which I think is especially clear, and your text bringing
>>>> responsibility back to US.... will broadcast when there is
>>>> something concrete... OK?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/19/14 7:47 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote:
>>>>> Give me an edited version. I haven't printed them yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to agree with her, when it comes to flyers, being concise
>>>>>> as opposed to comprehensive is better, because most people won't
>>>>>> read it if its too long. It's not something they paid for, its
>>>>>> free, thus they are tempted to just disguard if it looks like work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Draft flyer for July 20 demo -
>>>>>> comments welcomed
>>>>>> > From:galliher at illinois.edu <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>
>>>>>> > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:33:00 -0500
>>>>>> > To:karenaram at hotmail.com <mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Even my wife says it's readable on the printed page, tho' too
>>>>>> long (her usual comment - she wants concision...)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Jul 19, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > I had to increase the size of the print to read, but the
>>>>>> content looks comprehensive, good.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 17:49:16 -0500
>>>>>> > > To:peace-discuss at anti-war.net <mailto:peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
>>>>>> > > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Draft flyer for July 20 demo -
>>>>>> comments welcomed
>>>>>> > > From:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>>>>>> <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > AWARE ~ The Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana ~
>>>>>> 20 July 2014
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > ISRAEL’S MURDERS IN GAZA - OBAMA’S RESPONSIBILITY, AND OURS
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > After two weeks of airstrikes the Israeli army (IDF) has
>>>>>> invaded Gaza, the 140-square mile territory - with 1.8 million
>>>>>> people - that it surrounds and controls. (Hamas is the party that
>>>>>> won a free election in the territories occupied by Israel in 2006.)
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > “...This is the third major Israeli offensive against Hamas
>>>>>> and the people of Gaza in the last six years. Refusing to accept
>>>>>> international legality as the basis for resolving its dispute
>>>>>> with the Palestinians, Israel's right-wing government is ever
>>>>>> ready to resort to military force.
>>>>>> > > “With a degree of cynicism that is difficult to comprehend
>>>>>> and impossible to condone, Israel's leaders describe their
>>>>>> periodic incursions into Gaza as ‘mowing the lawn’. Now, once
>>>>>> again, and with characteristic callousness, they have unleashed
>>>>>> the full force of the IDF against Gaza's captive population.
>>>>>> > > “The death toll in the current round of hostilities is a grim
>>>>>> reflection of the asymmetry of power between the fourth strongest
>>>>>> army in the world and a virtually defenceless civilian
>>>>>> population. In the first ten days of aerial bombardment, the
>>>>>> ‘score’ was 260 Palestinian dead, mostly civilians, and one Israeli.
>>>>>> > > “By launching a ground offensive on July 17, Israel sharply
>>>>>> escalated the death toll to over 300; destroyed many more houses,
>>>>>> hospitals, and water plants; and displaced some 50,000 people out
>>>>>> of their homes. ‘Operation Protective Edge’ has thus turned the
>>>>>> densely populated Palestinian enclave on the eastern shore of the
>>>>>> Mediterranean into a living hell.
>>>>>> > > “Both sides claim to be responding to aggression by the other
>>>>>> side. The stated aim of Israel's incursion into the strip is to
>>>>>> put an end to the firing of rockets by Hamas militants on Israeli
>>>>>> civilians. Hamas, the Islamic party that rules Gaza, claims it is
>>>>>> engaged in legitimate resistance to Israel's military occupation
>>>>>> and that the rockets fired by its military wing were a response
>>>>>> to the violent IDF crackdown on the West Bank following the
>>>>>> abduction and murder of three Israeli youths. The chain of action
>>>>>> and reaction is endless. But the underlying cause of the violence
>>>>>> is the Israeli colonialism ... for the last seven years the
>>>>>> entire population of Gaza, mostly refugees from previous
>>>>>> Arab-Israeli wars, has been subjected to an illegal, inhumane,
>>>>>> and unrelenting siege...
>>>>>> > > “What is needed now is an immediate ceasefire. The Egyptian
>>>>>> ceasefire proposal of July 15 met Israel's needs but utterly
>>>>>> failed to meet the needs of the people of Gaza. Israel was
>>>>>> consulted before the proposal was announced; Hamas was not. Hamas
>>>>>> found out about the one-sided proposal from the media, not
>>>>>> through diplomatic channels.
>>>>>> > > “The proposal involved a return to the status quo with calm
>>>>>> for Israelis but with the people of Gaza continuing to live under
>>>>>> a crippling siege. Not unreasonably, Hamas demands an end to
>>>>>> Israeli aggression, the easing of the blockade by Israel and
>>>>>> Egypt, and the release of recently rearrested prisoners. It
>>>>>> refuses to return to the status quo ante because it is intolerable.
>>>>>> > > “Beyond a ceasefire to end the current round of fighting, the
>>>>>> international community will need to tackle the much tougher task
>>>>>> of persuading Israel to abide by the laws of war, respect UN
>>>>>> resolutions, end the odious occupation, and recognise the natural
>>>>>> right of the Palestinians to live on their land in freedom and
>>>>>> dignity.” [Avi Shlaim, Oxford University]
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Who is responsible for the Israeli military assault on Gaza?
>>>>>> Many can be blamed for Israel’s committing what the Nuremberg
>>>>>> Tribunal called “the supreme international crime - launching
>>>>>> aggressive war” - but the final responsibility lies with the
>>>>>> President of the United States.
>>>>>> > > Without the support - economic, military, political, and
>>>>>> diplomatic - that the U.S. government provides, Israel’s crimes
>>>>>> would not be possible. But the U.S. does not provide this support
>>>>>> because of undue influence from the government of Israel or the
>>>>>> Israel lobby. The U.S. government supports Israel - and its
>>>>>> oppression of Palestinians - because Israel is America’s
>>>>>> “stationary aircraft carrier” in the Mideast.
>>>>>> > > Most Americans think of U.S. war in the Mideast as beginning
>>>>>> after 9/11/2001, with the American invasions of Afghanistan and
>>>>>> Iraq, but in fact our government has been killing people in the
>>>>>> Mideast since the Second World War to secure control of what the
>>>>>> U.S. State Department called then “the world’s greatest material
>>>>>> prize,” Mideast gas and oil. The U.S. government demands not just
>>>>>> access to Mideast energy resources but control of them, because a
>>>>>> strangle-hold over world energy flows gives the U.S. the
>>>>>> advantage over its economic rivals in Europe and Asia, notably
>>>>>> Germany and China.
>>>>>> > > President Obama fails to stop Israel’s ongoing murders in
>>>>>> Gaza - as he could, with a word - because it’s been the policy of
>>>>>> all U.S. administrations for two generations to allow the
>>>>>> Israelis to continue their oppression of the Palestinians so long
>>>>>> as Israel supports and participates in the crimes of its U.S. master.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > It's time for Americans to say no to the child-killers in the
>>>>>> U.S. and Israeli governments.
>>>>>> > > Contact the president (202-456-1111) and our representatives
>>>>>> in Congress (202-224-3121), by phone or online:
>>>>>> > > President Obama -
>>>>>> <http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments>
>>>>>> > > Senator Durbin - <http://www.durbin.senate.gov/contact.cfm>
>>>>>> > > Senator Kirk -
>>>>>> <http://www.kirk.senate.gov/?p=comment_on_legislation>
>>>>>> > > Representative Davis -
>>>>>> <https://rodneydavis.house.gov/contact/email-me>
>>>>>> > > ###
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
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