[Peace-discuss] Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crashes in east Ukraine

Sun Jul 27 14:40:50 EDT 2014

The reaction to this unimpeachable fact that the odds of two identical planes from the same airline crashing within four months is utterly astronomical proving that the crashes are linked somehow, is very interesting to say the least.
Any forensics professional would deem this an important fact and worthy of attention.  There are many details we don't know about these connected incidents.
The reaction just shows that we all look at the world through massive filters.  When something creates as much cognitive dissonance as this mathematical analysis does, it's no wonder people are intimidated by it and push it away.
These incidents are part of an effort to start WWIII and many don't recognize it.

On Sunday, July 27, 2014 10:35 AM, David Johnson via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crashes in east Ukraine

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	* theguardian.com, Thursday 17 July 2014 13.55 EDT  
Link to video: Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crashes over Ukraine 
A MalaysiaAirlines passenger jet carrying 295 people from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur has crashed in an area of eastern Ukrainewhere separatist rebels have been engaging Ukrainian military forces in recent weeks. Ukraine's president, Petro Poroshenko, said the jet may have been shot down.
"We do not exclude that the plane was shot down and confirm that the Ukraine armed forces did not fire at any targets in the sky," Poroshenko said in a statement. Emergency workers at the crash site. Photograph: Maxim Zmeyev/Reuters   

In a statement, Malaysia Airlines said Ukraine's air traffic control lost contact with flight MH17 at 2.15pm GMT, approximately 30 miles from the Russia-Ukraine border. Credit: Guardian graphics   
Leaders of the self-declared Donetsk people's republic denied any involvement, according to Interfax news agency. A member of the republic's security council said rebel weapons only had the capacity to shoot down a plane at 3,000 metres and blamed Ukrainian military forces for the attack.Dmitry Peskov, a spokesman for the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, called allegations that Russia had been involved in the downing of MH17 "stupidity". Peskov told the Guardian that the Kremlin would not make a further statement on the tragedy 
because "no one knows" who is responsible.  Local Ukrainian TV images show smoke from the Malaysia passenger airliner that has crashed near the Russian border. Photograph: Universal News And Sport (Europe)   
Asked about the possibility of further US sanctions in light of this bloody development in the conflict in eastern Ukraine, Peskov said he could not rule it out.
"The United States has recently been conducting a very non-constructive policy, and their actions are very unpredictable," he said.Several airlines, including British Airways, Aeroflot, Turkish Airlines and Russia's Transaereo, announced that they would avoid Ukrainian airspace with immediate effect. Lufthansa said it would steer clear of airspace over eastern Ukraine.

The crash comes four months after Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 vanished on a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board, two-thirds of them Chinese citizens. It has yet to be found despite a massive international search, which is ongoing, but Malaysia Airlines has said it believes everyone on board died when the plane crashed into the southern Indian Ocean.
That aircraft was a Boeing-777 – the same kind of plane as flight MH17.

 In 2001, Ukraine admitted that its military was probably responsible for shooting down a Russian airliner that crashed into the Black Sea, killing all 78 on board. A senior Ukrainian official said it had most likely been downed by an accidental hit from an S-200 rocket fired during exercises.
In 1983, a Soviet jet fighter shot down a South Korean airliner after it veered off course into Russian air space and failed to respond to attempts to make contact. All 269 passengers and crew were killed.
In 1988, the US warship Vincennes shot down an Iranian airliner over the Gulf, killing all 290 passengers and crew, in what the United States said was an accident after crew mistook the plane for a fighter. Tehran called it a deliberate attack.
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