[Peace-discuss] Fwd: Re: Naked Capitalism on election

Sun Nov 9 15:13:16 EST 2014

And what you seem to fail to understand Jenifer, is that the republicans 
and the corporate dems are part of the SAME team, think good cop / bad 
cop routine.
People are sick and tired of being sold out by the dems.
A third party AND running good Working class people ( NOT millionaires 
like Sam Rosenberg, etc ) in the dem primaries is what needs to be done.
BOTH need to be done, so that if the good working class dems are beaten 
by the corporate dems in the primaries, people will have the option of 
voting against the corporate dems in the general election.
Einstein was quoted once as saying that the definition of insanity is to 
continue to do the same thing over and over again and expect different 
results.
Hence your strategy of voting for any piece of shit corporate hack with a
  " D" next to their name has NOT been working. The dems have been 
getting progressively worse every year since Bill Clinton because they 
know that people like you will continue to vote for them regardless how 
bad they become. They don't fear us, but they do fear their corporate 
contributors.
This dynamic MUST be changed !
The only way that will happen is if targeted corporate dems who have 
sold us out our faced with a sanction from THE PEOPLE by being voted 
out, regardless if a republican wins. That is the ONLY way it will 
change, in conjunction with electing working class people in the dem 
primaries.

And in regards to Nader in 2000.....
You seem to be in denial about the 2000 elections.
That election was STOLEN via fraud, it had nothing to do with Nader.
If the democrats were a REAL opposition party in a REAL democracy, they 
would have called for general strikes and massive protests to shut the 
country down until a re-run election was held in Florida with 
international voting observers.
But as we know, your precious Al Gore, rolled over when his corporate 
masters told him to back off and the rest is history. Of course to cover 
their collaboration and cowardice the Democratic National committee 
began a " blame Nader " campaign.
And lastly, what makes you think the dems are not also cutting social 
security, medicare, etc. ?
Would you like me to go into detail about that ?

David Johnson

On 11/9/2014 1:36 PM, Jenifer Cartwright via Peace-discuss wrote:
>      Absolutely, Mort Brussel, it's ignorance/failure to realize that 
> as bad as the Dems are, the Repubs are far, far worse. Staying home or 
> voting 3rd party is a vote for the Repubs, tho' you'll brag about 
> doing that, as if it somehow makes you A Superior Person, instead of 
> an ignorant show off. Get over yrselves -- this is not about you, it's 
> a looming crisis (think 2000 and what the Bush presidency bro't us).
>      Get ready for WW III and loss of: food stamps; social security; 
> supported healthcare; medicare; medicaid; unions; minimum wage; 
> subsidized housing; environmental protection; widening of the income 
> gap; The Middle Class.
>
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> *From:* "Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss" 
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> *To:* David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* "peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net" 
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 7, 2014 11:12 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Naked Capitalism on election
>
> It is hard for me to believe anything being expressed about why the 
> election results occurred as they did, except that it is linked to the 
> influence of money, media and ignorance. This is not to say that 
> disgust at the present affairs of state was unimportant.
>
> —mkb
>
> How admirable was the informative letter by David to the N-G, 
> responding to the N-G commentaries on Illinois finances by Winkel, Dye 
> and Nowlen. Many thanks. One hopes it will register in the public’s 
> consciousness.
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:44 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss 
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net 
> <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>
>> The midterms were not a “wave election” for Republicans, and in fact 
>> left policies were adopted by voters. The Democrats did not lose 
>> because of technical factors like the electoral map, structural 
>> issues with their “coalition,” or even for the reasons put forward by 
>> emo-dems. Rather, the midterms were a protest against neo-liberal 
>> principles and policy outcomes successfully achieved by Obama and the 
>> dominant factions of the Democratic Party: An active protest against 
>> Obama’s redistribution of income to the rich, and a sullen refusal to 
>> take ObamaCare as the positive good that the political class, 
>> refusing to look out the windows as they talk on their cellphones on 
>> the Acela, are sure that it is. Finally, Republicans are no less 
>> despised than Democrats, and in 2016 it may well be their turn to be 
>> subject to the cycle of massacre. Only a cat of a different coat….
>> http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/11/midterms-2014-red-wedding-democrats.html
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