[Peace-discuss] Netanyahu insulted Sen. Durbin. What will Durbin do about it?

[Robert Naiman]

Really, Carl? You're going to give lectures now on repetition? When was the
last time you had a new idea, 1984?



Robert Naiman
Policy Director
Just Foreign Policy
www.justforeignpolicy.org
naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
(202) 448-2898 x1

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 4:05 PM, C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com>
wrote:

> You need some new phrases, Bob - repeating "ultra-left drivel" lacks
> punch, to say nothing of argumentation.
>
> But opposing, not supporting, the criminal wars of our government leaders
> seems to me incumbent on those of us privileged enough to have the time and
> resources to do it. In our lifetime US executive branch leaders have
> killed, wounded and made homeless well over 20 million human beings,
> mostly civilians - and the numbers increase daily.
>
> How does it happen that a self-proclaimed advocate for "Just Foreign
> Policy" ends up approving of mass murder, drone terrorism, and proxy war -
> so long as those crimes are committed by nice Democrats?
>
> On Netanyahu, I don't think Durbin, Kaine, Schakowsky, or any or the rest
> should symbolically put their fingers in their ears and chant, "I can't
> hear you!" - and hence avoid any questions about the role of Israel as a
> stationary aircraft carrier for US imperialist crimes in the Mideast and
> elsewhere.
>
> Philip Weiss seems to me to have it right: "...The speech should go on
> because its historical amazement — the spectacle of a warmongering foreign
> leader rebuking the U.S. president on his foreign policy before a joint
> session of Congress — will catalyze an important political debate over the
> American people’s interest in the Middle East ...  The speech might allow a
> long-suppressed argument ... the only people who want this speech to
> happen now are our side, the Palestinian solidarity types, and the
> hard-core neocons ... If the speech goes forward, people will be openly
> debating ... why we are at war in the Middle East – or 'how did we get into
> this mess' (as Tom Friedman puts it) ... The Netanyahu speech will be a
> great shock to the American system, and a healthy one: it will set off a
> long needed and long denied conversation..."
> [See more at:
> http://mondoweiss.net/2015/02/netanyahu-cancel-speech#sthash.TNbBo2Bu.dpuf]
>
> Regards, Carl
>
> On Feb 26, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss <
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>
> You could write the same ultra-left drivel about Tim Kaine and Jan
> Schakowsky as you could about Dick Durbin.
>
> But Tim Kaine did this:
>
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/02/25/tim-kaine-the-latest-hill-democrat-to-announce-plans-to-skip-netanyahus-speech/
>
> And Jan Schakowsky did this:
>
>
> http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/02/25/schakowsky-a-jew-decides-to-skip-netanyahus-speech-to-congress/
>
> Why do you always try to change the subject from activism to your
> ultra-left drivel, Carl? Why do you hate activism so much?
>
>
>
>
>
> Robert Naiman
> Policy Director
> Just Foreign Policy
> www.justforeignpolicy.org
> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
> (202) 448-2898 x1
>
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:49 PM, C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Durbin, a fervent supporter of Obama's world-wide war plans - including
>> but by no means limited to his drone program, "the most extreme terrorist
>> campaign of modern times" - should be insulted more seriously and more
>> often.
>>
>> Obama's policy is to mislead the only enemy of his war plans whom he
>> really fears, the US public. Therefore Netanyahu should be encouraged to
>> give his speech:
>> <http://mondoweiss.net/2015/02/netanyahu-cancel-speech>.
>>
>> Durbin should be told that Obama's war-making in E. Europe and SW Asia is
>> criminal madness, for which both should be impeached. The Vietnam war
>> resulted in two presidents being driven from office. The US public should
>> repeat the action. Obama at least is afraid of that.
>>
>> --CGE
>>
>>
>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Robert Naiman <noreply at list.moveon.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear C. G. Estabrook,
>>
>> Have you heard? In a shocking insult towards our Democratic Illinois
>> Senator, Dick Durbin, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejected an
>> invitation from Senator Durbin and California Senator Dianne Feinstein to
>> meet with Senate Democrats when he is in Washington next week. [1].
>>
>> At this writing, The Hill still lists Durbin as “on the fence” on whether
>> he will participate in Netanyahu’s planned tirade to Congress against
>> President Obama on Tuesday. [2]
>>
>> Senator Durbin needs to hear more from people in Illinois that we don’t
>> want him to support Netanyahu’s tirade attacking President Obama by
>> attending it. We can still move him to do the right thing. Just yesterday,
>> Democratic Illinois Rep. Jan Schakowsky [3]  and Democratic Virginia
>> Senator Tim Kaine [4] announced that they will not attend the speech...
>>
>>
>
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