[Peace-discuss] [sf-core] Can I Count On You?

Wed Jul 1 12:11:01 EDT 2015

Gosh, this is a depressing discussion.

Ricky, Brian, et al. -- are you really saying that "sorry, I wasn't present
for the vote" is a credible response regarding one of the most important
international civil rights struggles of our time?

And, no, I don't think "go ask her" is a credible follow-up response --
residents shouldn't be asked to form personal relationships with their
state reps to know what's really going on.

I don't think there's any need for Carol's campaign to weigh in on this --
several correspondents in this discussion seem to have the inside story. So
just tell us -- was it the UIUC medical school? Something more?

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Ricky Baldwin via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> I believe the only mystery is in your mind.  She stepped outside.  If you
> want to discuss it you have only to do so as a human being would.
>
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> ------------------------------
>   *From*:"C. G. Estabrook" <carl at newsfromneptune.com>
> *Date*:Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 6:31 PM
>
> *Subject*:Re: [sf-core] [Peace-discuss] Can I Count On You?
>
> Her constituents deserve to know “the true situation.”
>
> And we should vote only for representatives who will tell us.
>
>
> > On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Ricky Baldwin baldwinricky at yahoo.com
> [sf-core] <sf-core-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Nope.  I'm saying the true situation is not so obvious as you suggest.
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> > From:"'C. G. Estabrook' carl at newsfromneptune.com [sf-core]" <
> sf-core-noreply at yahoogroups.com>
> > Date:Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 5:38 PM
> > Subject:Re: [sf-core] [Peace-discuss] Can I Count On You?
> >
> >
> > Are you saying she would have voted no, had she only known?
> >
> > If so, I’d like to hear that from her.
> >
> > I don’t believe it.
> >
> > —CGE
> >
> > > On Jun 30, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Ricky Baldwin baldwinricky at yahoo.com
> [sf-core] <sf-core-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hm. I checked. Apparently she was outside the chamber when the vote
> was called.
> > >
> > > Ricky
> > >
> > >
> > > "Speak your mind, even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 1:06 PM, C. G. Estabrook <
> carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes. I’ve had no response, public or private.
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Jun 30, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Ricky Baldwin baldwinricky at yahoo.com
> [sf-core] <sf-core-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Did you ask her why she voted NV?
> > > >
> > > > Ricky Baldwin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Speak your mind, even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via
> Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Carol—
> > > >
> > > > You can count on me to support the principles that I thought you
> supported.
> > > >
> > > > After another day of Israeli piracy (ignored by Obama), I will be
> supporting the Green party nominee for the state representative seat from
> this area - someone who would have voted against SB 1761, rather than
> acquiescing to the neocon (and neoliberal) Democrat party's dictates.
> > > >
> > > > I await your apology.
> > > >
> > > > --C. G. Estabrook
> > > >
> > > >> On Jun 29, 2015, at 8:35 PM, Carol Ammons for State Representative <
> Campaign at CarolAmmonsforStateRep.emailnb.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Carol Ammons for State Representative
> > > >>
> > > >> Dear Carl --
> > > >>
> > > >> These last 6 months have been a whirlwind of listening, learning,
> and advocating in Springfield and once again, thank you for your support
> and confidence in me.
> > > >>
> > > >> Although it may feel like the campaign just ended, it's already
> time to start planning and preparing for the 2016 election and this coming
> election cycle will be critical. We must keep as many democrats in office
> as possible to protect against the attacks on our unions, our social
> services, and who knows what else to come. That is why I am asking you to
> donate $5 today because every dollar counts.
> > > >>
> > > >> Your contribution of $5 now will support my re-election campaign
> and send a strong message that the people of Champaign-Urbana are paying
> attention and will not be intimidated. We won this once with a grassroots,
> small donor initiative. Let's do it again.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you for your continued support.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sincerely,
> > > >> Carol
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.carolammonsforstaterep.com/
> > > >>
> > > >> Carol Ammons for State Representative · PO Box 53, Urbana, IL
> 61803, United States
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