[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] [sf-core] Re: Can I Count On You?

C. G. Estabrook carl at newsfromneptune.com
Tue Jun 30 19:24:24 EDT 2015


You can't deny that Israel, as the chief US client, is far and away the largest recipient of US money; that the Gaza casualty figures are established by the UN; and that Israel wants the Palestinian land but not the people (because that would explode the fiction that Israel can be a "Jewish and democratic” state).

And it’s simply false to say Salaita has no academic credentials - as far-fetched as saying "he was hired exactly because of his antisemitic credentials.”

The fashioners of hasbara are getting desperate. 

> On Jun 30, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Astrid Berkson <astridjb at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> most of them do receive billions, the gaza casualty figures are not checked and are not accurate ( remember the reuters corpse that got up and ran away and the one that died 5 times?), and israel is not committed to wiping out the 150,000,000 muslims who are committed to exterminating them. and salaita has no academic credentials. he was hired exactly because of his antisemitic credentials and the same can be said of the department that wanted to hire him.
> "May this be the worst day of your life". 
> Old Irish blessing.
> On 6/30/2015 5:56 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>> “…all the countries around it” do not receive billions of dollars from the US each year, as well as diplomatic cover for violating international law.
>> 
>> From the Nakba up thorough last summer’s mass murders in Gaza, Israel have done a much better job of 'wiping out' Palestinians - and dispossessing them - than the reverse. There’s no comparison. 
>> 
>> It is generally admitted that it was Israel, not the Palestinians, who violated the recent cease-fires. 
>> 
>> Locally, pressure from the Israel lobby has led to a shameful violation of academic freedom at UIUC and a cowardly vote from our legislators.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Astrid Berkson via OccupyCU <occupycu at lists.chambana.net <mailto:occupycu at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> why do the liberals of the left want to boycott only israel when all the countries around it have done much worse things and the left loves them. one stumbling block to peace is the palestinian determination to wipe out every jew in israel, which is in their charter and which they claim as a right in the peace talks. whenever agreements are made, they violate them, mostly because the occupation offers more opportunities for corruption for the leaders than peace would
>>> "May this be the worst day of your life". 
>>> Old Irish blessing.
>>> On 6/30/2015 12:56 PM, Ricky Baldwin baldwinricky at yahoo.com <mailto:baldwinricky at yahoo.com> [sf-core] wrote:
>>>> Did you ask her why she voted NV?
>>>>  
>>>> Ricky Baldwin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "Speak your mind, even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Carol—
>>>> 
>>>> You can count on me to support the principles that I thought you supported.
>>>> 
>>>> After another day of Israeli piracy (ignored by Obama), I will be supporting the Green party nominee for the state representative seat from this area - someone who would have voted against SB 1761, rather than acquiescing to the neocon (and neoliberal) Democrat party's dictates. 
>>>> 
>>>> I await your apology.
>>>> 
>>>> --C. G. Estabrook
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 29, 2015, at 8:35 PM, Carol Ammons for State Representative <Campaign at CarolAmmonsforStateRep.emailnb.com <mailto:Campaign at CarolAmmonsforStateRep.emailnb.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Carol Ammons for State Representative
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Carl -- 
>>>>> 
>>>>> These last 6 months have been a whirlwind of listening, learning, and advocating in Springfield and once again, thank you for your support and confidence in me.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Although it may feel like the campaign just ended, it's already time to start planning and preparing for the 2016 election and this coming election cycle will be critical.  We must keep as many democrats in office as possible to protect against the attacks on our unions, our social services, and who knows what else to come.  That is why I am asking you to donate $5 today because every dollar counts.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__carolammonsforstaterep.nationbuilder.com_donate-3Fe-3D7c80a2e9d2a321e11f1435f371c62c86ef7ee1a6-26utm-5Fsource-3Dcarolammonsforstaterep-26utm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fcampaign-3D2015-5F2ndq-5Freque-26n-3D2&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=qTJ_xK3K_Pj4bueWO6VHtzSsxxiCEQ-BDZr_nfW3IRM&s=vK82hHoJEDvMnOtfVgaw9yrKIYdr9rDeEByzO73f_-s&e=>Your contribution of $5 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__carolammonsforstaterep.nationbuilder.com_donate-3Fe-3D7c80a2e9d2a321e11f1435f371c62c86ef7ee1a6-26utm-5Fsource-3Dcarolammonsforstaterep-26utm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fcampaign-3D2015-5F2ndq-5Freque-26n-3D3&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=qTJ_xK3K_Pj4bueWO6VHtzSsxxiCEQ-BDZr_nfW3IRM&s=twCGq4BVqtZG8hUxPC4KeH5L8vO7PqANLzVvO4dwmSg&e=> now will support my re-election campaign and send a strong message that the people of Champaign-Urbana are paying attention and will not be intimidated.  We won this once with a grassroots, small donor initiative. Let's do it again. <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__carolammonsforstaterep.nationbuilder.com_donate-3Fe-3D7c80a2e9d2a321e11f1435f371c62c86ef7ee1a6-26utm-5Fsource-3Dcarolammonsforstaterep-26utm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fcampaign-3D2015-5F2ndq-5Freque-26n-3D4&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=qTJ_xK3K_Pj4bueWO6VHtzSsxxiCEQ-BDZr_nfW3IRM&s=Ol2s3BMOCCTIp0_IWhfrQlZbvyQ0DA1YtwlnaLu7HRQ&e=> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for your continued support.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Carol
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.carolammonsforstaterep.com/ <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.carolammonsforstaterep.com_-3Fe-3D7c80a2e9d2a321e11f1435f371c62c86ef7ee1a6-26utm-5Fsource-3Dcarolammonsforstaterep-26utm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fcampaign-3D2015-5F2ndq-5Freque-26n-3D5&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=qTJ_xK3K_Pj4bueWO6VHtzSsxxiCEQ-BDZr_nfW3IRM&s=rIA9sSYTcVmJvYWclrnhXigU02vkAEKQcUdtywNGCkQ&e=>
>>>>>  
>>>>> Carol Ammons for State Representative · PO Box 53, Urbana, IL 61803, United States 
>>>>> This email was sent to galliher at illinois.edu <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__galliher-40illinois.edu&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=qTJ_xK3K_Pj4bueWO6VHtzSsxxiCEQ-BDZr_nfW3IRM&s=1GQ87z_QFxtFpzD68Sn72ojJRSwN34gaigTKgqplWpY&e=>. To stop receiving emails, click here <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.carolammonsforstaterep.com_unsubscribe-3Fe-3D7c80a2e9d2a321e11f1435f371c62c86ef7ee1a6-26utm-5Fsource-3Dcarolammonsforstaterep-26utm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fcampaign-3D2015-5F2ndq-5Freque-26n-3D6&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=qTJ_xK3K_Pj4bueWO6VHtzSsxxiCEQ-BDZr_nfW3IRM&s=DjQeNSOARsyMGAvMKd7IMwT2lDu5W2i6io_7PdT569Y&e=>. 
>>>>> You can also keep up with Carol Ammons for State Representative on Twitter <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.carolammonsforstaterep.com_r-3Fu-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Ftwitter.com-252Fcarolammons4103-26e-3D7c80a2e9d2a321e11f1435f371c62c86ef7ee1a6-26utm-5Fsource-3Dcarolammonsforstaterep-26utm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fcampaign-3D2015-5F2ndq-5Freque-26n-3D7&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=qTJ_xK3K_Pj4bueWO6VHtzSsxxiCEQ-BDZr_nfW3IRM&s=rtwiCBZEBRvvPXkmjNe2EzlRS3X7u8KP0tij22si9gU&e=> or Facebook <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.carolammonsforstaterep.com_r-3Fu-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.facebook.com-252Fcarolammons4103-26e-3D7c80a2e9d2a321e11f1435f371c62c86ef7ee1a6-26utm-5Fsource-3Dcarolammonsforstaterep-26utm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fcampaign-3D2015-5F2ndq-5Freque-26n-3D8&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=qTJ_xK3K_Pj4bueWO6VHtzSsxxiCEQ-BDZr_nfW3IRM&s=EQlp1oO5m6d9XOU51S4KJ_gicbI-xb0FUmCptTxcjAo&e=>.
>>>>> Created with NationBuilder <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.carolammonsforstaterep.com_r-3Fu-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fnationbuilder.com-26e-3D7c80a2e9d2a321e11f1435f371c62c86ef7ee1a6-26utm-5Fsource-3Dcarolammonsforstaterep-26utm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fcampaign-3D2015-5F2ndq-5Freque-26n-3D9&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=qTJ_xK3K_Pj4bueWO6VHtzSsxxiCEQ-BDZr_nfW3IRM&s=M5cbIwd2dD2k-sYWMhEqVeiDulR9eMuAEUho7Y17Mvw&e=>, the essential toolkit for leaders.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Peace-discuss mailing list
>>>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss <https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> __._,_.___
>>>> Posted by: Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at yahoo.com> <mailto:baldwinricky at yahoo.com>
>>>> Reply via web post <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/sf-core/conversations/messages/5650;_ylc=X3oDMTJwZjAycm4wBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc4OTI2NjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYwMzc1BG1zZ0lkAzU2NTAEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxNDM1Njg3MTQy?act=reply&messageNum=5650>	•	Reply to sender  <mailto:baldwinricky at yahoo.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5BPeace-discuss%5D%20Can%20I%20Count%20On%20You%3F>	•	Reply to group  <mailto:sf-core at yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5BPeace-discuss%5D%20Can%20I%20Count%20On%20You%3F>	•	Start a New Topic <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/sf-core/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJldDVybDZmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc4OTI2NjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYwMzc1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQzNTY4NzE0Mg-->	•	Messages in this topic <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/sf-core/conversations/topics/5649;_ylc=X3oDMTM0Ymc0MWxiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc4OTI2NjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYwMzc1BG1zZ0lkAzU2NTAEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxNDM1Njg3MTQyBHRwY0lkAzU2NDk-> (2) 
>>>> VISIT YOUR GROUP <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/sf-core/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcXFjcDQ3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc4OTI2NjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYwMzc1BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTQzNTY4NzE0Mg-->
>>>>  <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJkc2Q2cGhoBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzc4OTI2NjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYwMzc1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxNDM1Njg3MTQy>• Privacy <https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html> • Unsubscribe <mailto:sf-core-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> • Terms of Use <https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/>
>>>> .
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> __,_._,___
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> OccupyCU mailing list
>>> OccupyCU at lists.chambana.net <mailto:OccupyCU at lists.chambana.net>
>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/occupycu <https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/occupycu>
>> 
> 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.chambana.net/pipermail/peace-discuss/attachments/20150630/96dad7c7/attachment-0001.html>


More information about the Peace-discuss mailing list