From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Aug 1 16:31:04 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 16:31:04 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Urgent: Chelsea Manning being charged for suicide attempt In-Reply-To: <2940916814.218364235@wfc.wfcDB.reply.salsalabs.com> References: <2940916814.218364235@wfc.wfcDB.reply.salsalabs.com> Message-ID: Please sign the petition. ________________________________ From: info=rootsaction.org at mail.salsalabs.net on behalf of RootsAction Team Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 9:54 AM Subject: Urgent: Chelsea Manning being charged for suicide attempt [https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6503/images/RA_Header.jpg] [https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6503/images/donate3bucks200b.png] Urgent: Chelsea Manning is being charged for her own suicide attempt, faces indefinite solitary confinement! [https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6503/images/chelseasuicideEMAIL.jpg] [GRAPHIC: Sign here button] [https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6503/images/btn_facebook_icon_sm.jpg] Share this action on Facebook [https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6503/images/btn_twitter_icon_sm.jpg] Share this action on Twitter After years of inhumane treatment, and having been held in conditions that the UN considers to be torture, Chelsea Manning, the Guardian columnist and whistleblower who has been in prison for years serving a 35-year sentence for exposing some of the U.S. government's worst abuses, attempted to take her own life on July 5th, 2016. Click here to tell the Army not to use this as an excuse to further punish Chelsea or to prevent her exercising the right to speach. Army officials have informed Chelsea Manning that she is facing serious new charges directly related to her suicide attempt. These new charges include: 1) Resisting a group of prison guards called "the force cell move team" (Chelsea was unconscious when this team arrived, which makes this charge particularly absurd.) 2) Prohibited property (for the items she used to attempt to take her own life.) 3) Conduct which threatens (for somehow putting the prison at risk while attempting to take her own life, quietly, in her own cell.) Click here to inist on humane and legal treatment, and the dropping of these charges. If convicted of these bizarre "administrative offenses," that are effectively charging her for attempting to end her life, she is facing indefinite solitary confinement for the rest of her prison term (another 30 years), "maximum security" classification (in the same facility), and nearly a decade before she can ever be classified as a "minimum security" prisoner. It is unnecessarily cruel to threaten Chelsea with additional punishment while in this very vulnerable state. The government is trying to silence her important voice––for good. Chelsea has been systematically mistreated by the U.S. government since she was first taken into custody in 2010, including long stretches of extreme solitary confinement even before she had ever been convicted. Chelsea is a transgender woman being forced to serve out her sentence in an all-male prison, which is in itself dehumanizing and exhausting emotionally. She is currently being denied medical treatment for her gender dysphoria, which experts have stated is the only course of treatment through which she would no longer be suicidal. This is not the first time the government has harassed Chelsea with outrageous charges while in prison. Last year, they threatened her with solitary confinement for minor "infractions" including possession of LGBTQ reading materials and an expired tube of toothpaste. RootsAction and Fight for the Future and other groups gathered more than 100,000 petition signatures in response, and the outcry we generated kept her out of solitary. Now we need to do it again. Please, sign the petition and spread the word. Chelsea is depending on us. Well, I rapped upon a house With the U.S. flag upon display I said, "Could you help me out I got some friends down the way" The man says, "Get out of here I'll tear you limb from limb" I said, "You know they refused Jesus, too" He said, "You’re not Him." -- Bob Dylan Click here to help Chelsea Manning. After signing the petition, please use the tools on the next webpage to share it with your friends. This work is only possible with your financial support. Please chip in $3 now. -- The RootsAction.org Team P.S. RootsAction is an independent online force endorsed by Jim Hightower, Barbara Ehrenreich, Cornel West, Daniel Ellsberg, Glenn Greenwald, Naomi Klein, Bill Fletcher Jr., Laura Flanders, former U.S. Senator James Abourezk, Coleen Rowley, Frances Fox Piven, Lila Garrett, Phil Donahue, Sonali Kolhatkar, and many others. Background: > ACLU Press Release > Fight for the Future Press Release www.RootsAction.org [Donate button] [Facebook button] [Twitter button] Click here to unsubscribe and stop ALL email from RootsAction. [empowered by Salsa] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Aug 1 16:31:04 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 16:31:04 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Urgent: Chelsea Manning being charged for suicide attempt In-Reply-To: <2940916814.218364235@wfc.wfcDB.reply.salsalabs.com> References: <2940916814.218364235@wfc.wfcDB.reply.salsalabs.com> Message-ID: Please sign the petition. ________________________________ From: info=rootsaction.org at mail.salsalabs.net on behalf of RootsAction Team Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 9:54 AM Subject: Urgent: Chelsea Manning being charged for suicide attempt [https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6503/images/RA_Header.jpg] [https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6503/images/donate3bucks200b.png] Urgent: Chelsea Manning is being charged for her own suicide attempt, faces indefinite solitary confinement! [https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6503/images/chelseasuicideEMAIL.jpg] [GRAPHIC: Sign here button] [https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6503/images/btn_facebook_icon_sm.jpg] Share this action on Facebook [https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6503/images/btn_twitter_icon_sm.jpg] Share this action on Twitter After years of inhumane treatment, and having been held in conditions that the UN considers to be torture, Chelsea Manning, the Guardian columnist and whistleblower who has been in prison for years serving a 35-year sentence for exposing some of the U.S. government's worst abuses, attempted to take her own life on July 5th, 2016. Click here to tell the Army not to use this as an excuse to further punish Chelsea or to prevent her exercising the right to speach. Army officials have informed Chelsea Manning that she is facing serious new charges directly related to her suicide attempt. These new charges include: 1) Resisting a group of prison guards called "the force cell move team" (Chelsea was unconscious when this team arrived, which makes this charge particularly absurd.) 2) Prohibited property (for the items she used to attempt to take her own life.) 3) Conduct which threatens (for somehow putting the prison at risk while attempting to take her own life, quietly, in her own cell.) Click here to inist on humane and legal treatment, and the dropping of these charges. If convicted of these bizarre "administrative offenses," that are effectively charging her for attempting to end her life, she is facing indefinite solitary confinement for the rest of her prison term (another 30 years), "maximum security" classification (in the same facility), and nearly a decade before she can ever be classified as a "minimum security" prisoner. It is unnecessarily cruel to threaten Chelsea with additional punishment while in this very vulnerable state. The government is trying to silence her important voice––for good. Chelsea has been systematically mistreated by the U.S. government since she was first taken into custody in 2010, including long stretches of extreme solitary confinement even before she had ever been convicted. Chelsea is a transgender woman being forced to serve out her sentence in an all-male prison, which is in itself dehumanizing and exhausting emotionally. She is currently being denied medical treatment for her gender dysphoria, which experts have stated is the only course of treatment through which she would no longer be suicidal. This is not the first time the government has harassed Chelsea with outrageous charges while in prison. Last year, they threatened her with solitary confinement for minor "infractions" including possession of LGBTQ reading materials and an expired tube of toothpaste. RootsAction and Fight for the Future and other groups gathered more than 100,000 petition signatures in response, and the outcry we generated kept her out of solitary. Now we need to do it again. Please, sign the petition and spread the word. Chelsea is depending on us. Well, I rapped upon a house With the U.S. flag upon display I said, "Could you help me out I got some friends down the way" The man says, "Get out of here I'll tear you limb from limb" I said, "You know they refused Jesus, too" He said, "You’re not Him." -- Bob Dylan Click here to help Chelsea Manning. After signing the petition, please use the tools on the next webpage to share it with your friends. This work is only possible with your financial support. Please chip in $3 now. -- The RootsAction.org Team P.S. RootsAction is an independent online force endorsed by Jim Hightower, Barbara Ehrenreich, Cornel West, Daniel Ellsberg, Glenn Greenwald, Naomi Klein, Bill Fletcher Jr., Laura Flanders, former U.S. Senator James Abourezk, Coleen Rowley, Frances Fox Piven, Lila Garrett, Phil Donahue, Sonali Kolhatkar, and many others. Background: > ACLU Press Release > Fight for the Future Press Release www.RootsAction.org [Donate button] [Facebook button] [Twitter button] Click here to unsubscribe and stop ALL email from RootsAction. [empowered by Salsa] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Aug 3 00:02:05 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 00:02:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Jill picked her VP! In-Reply-To: <57a11d9c82628_7c68981cb90958d6@asgworker-qmb2-i-e3785873.nbuild.prd.useast1.3dna.io.mail> References: <57a11d9c82628_7c68981cb90958d6@asgworker-qmb2-i-e3785873.nbuild.prd.useast1.3dna.io.mail> Message-ID: ________________________________ Subject: Jill picked her VP! [Jill 2016] You may have already heard Jill announced her pick for vice president: Ajamu Baraka. [SteinBarakaHeader.jpg] We're excited about Ajamu and you should be, too. Here's why: * Ajamu is an internationally recognized human rights activist, organizer and geo-political analyst * He was the founding executive director of the U.S. Human Rights Network * Ajamu is also the coordinator of the U.S.-based Black Left Unity Network's Committee on International Affairs * Ajamu has served on the boards of various national and international human rights organizations, including Amnesty International (USA), the National Center for Human Rights Education, the Center for Constitutional Rights, Africa Action, Latin American Caribbean Community Center, Diaspora Afrique and the Mississippi Workers' Center for Human Rights * Ajamu is a member of the Green Shadow Cabinet, an alternative to the dysfunctional D.C. establishment * He's also an associate fellow at the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS) in Washington, D.C. * Ajamu's media footprint is huge. He's been an editor and contributing columnist for Black Agenda Report, and he has appeared on and been covered in a wide-range of print, broadcast, and digital media outlets such as CNN, BBC, the Tavis Smiley Show, ABC's World News Tonight, the Washington Post, the New York Times, and Telemundo. Basically, Ajamu really knows what he's talking about when it comes to the issues that matter to you and the majority of Americans: workers' rights, sustainable jobs, a healthy environment, immigrant justice, and a foreign policy based on international law and human rights. Now Jill is ready to take on the establishment with Ajamu, who she's called a "powerful, eloquent spokesperson for the transformative, radical agenda whose time has come -- one of economic, social, racial, gender, climate, indigenous and immigrant justice." Jill and Ajamu are ready to criss-cross the country to build a party that actually meets the needs of 60 percent of Americans who don't identify with the establishment politics of Democrats and Republicans. We're incredibly excited to formally nominate Jill and Ajamu as our standard-bearers Saturday at the Green Party's convention. It's in our hands! The Jill Stein for President campaign team [donate_button_orange.png] [Jill 2016] [Facebook] [Twitter] [YouTube] [Tumblr] This email was sent to karenaram at hotmail.com. Click here to Unsubscribe. Paid for by Jill Stein for President PO Box 260197, Madison, WI 53726 Created with NationBuilder -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Aug 3 00:02:05 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 00:02:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Jill picked her VP! In-Reply-To: <57a11d9c82628_7c68981cb90958d6@asgworker-qmb2-i-e3785873.nbuild.prd.useast1.3dna.io.mail> References: <57a11d9c82628_7c68981cb90958d6@asgworker-qmb2-i-e3785873.nbuild.prd.useast1.3dna.io.mail> Message-ID: ________________________________ Subject: Jill picked her VP! [Jill 2016] You may have already heard Jill announced her pick for vice president: Ajamu Baraka. [SteinBarakaHeader.jpg] We're excited about Ajamu and you should be, too. Here's why: * Ajamu is an internationally recognized human rights activist, organizer and geo-political analyst * He was the founding executive director of the U.S. Human Rights Network * Ajamu is also the coordinator of the U.S.-based Black Left Unity Network's Committee on International Affairs * Ajamu has served on the boards of various national and international human rights organizations, including Amnesty International (USA), the National Center for Human Rights Education, the Center for Constitutional Rights, Africa Action, Latin American Caribbean Community Center, Diaspora Afrique and the Mississippi Workers' Center for Human Rights * Ajamu is a member of the Green Shadow Cabinet, an alternative to the dysfunctional D.C. establishment * He's also an associate fellow at the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS) in Washington, D.C. * Ajamu's media footprint is huge. He's been an editor and contributing columnist for Black Agenda Report, and he has appeared on and been covered in a wide-range of print, broadcast, and digital media outlets such as CNN, BBC, the Tavis Smiley Show, ABC's World News Tonight, the Washington Post, the New York Times, and Telemundo. Basically, Ajamu really knows what he's talking about when it comes to the issues that matter to you and the majority of Americans: workers' rights, sustainable jobs, a healthy environment, immigrant justice, and a foreign policy based on international law and human rights. Now Jill is ready to take on the establishment with Ajamu, who she's called a "powerful, eloquent spokesperson for the transformative, radical agenda whose time has come -- one of economic, social, racial, gender, climate, indigenous and immigrant justice." Jill and Ajamu are ready to criss-cross the country to build a party that actually meets the needs of 60 percent of Americans who don't identify with the establishment politics of Democrats and Republicans. We're incredibly excited to formally nominate Jill and Ajamu as our standard-bearers Saturday at the Green Party's convention. It's in our hands! The Jill Stein for President campaign team [donate_button_orange.png] [Jill 2016] [Facebook] [Twitter] [YouTube] [Tumblr] This email was sent to karenaram at hotmail.com. Click here to Unsubscribe. Paid for by Jill Stein for President PO Box 260197, Madison, WI 53726 Created with NationBuilder -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Aug 3 02:23:04 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 02:23:04 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE Anti-war demonstration this Saturday at Church and Neil Message-ID: AWARE's 1st. Saturday of the month anti-war demonstration will take place as usual downtown Champaign, corner of Neil and Church Street @ 2:00pm, this Saturday August 6th. All are welcome to join, we have signs available from which to choose. Or join with some of us who represent the Prairie Greens at the Esquire Lounge at 12:30-1:00pm in the back room., as a prelude to AWARE's anti-war demonstration against war. With the recent airstrikes by the US in Libya, the city of Sirte, which contains a population of 80,000 civilians, a city already almost destroyed........... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Aug 3 02:23:04 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 02:23:04 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE Anti-war demonstration this Saturday at Church and Neil Message-ID: AWARE's 1st. Saturday of the month anti-war demonstration will take place as usual downtown Champaign, corner of Neil and Church Street @ 2:00pm, this Saturday August 6th. All are welcome to join, we have signs available from which to choose. Or join with some of us who represent the Prairie Greens at the Esquire Lounge at 12:30-1:00pm in the back room., as a prelude to AWARE's anti-war demonstration against war. With the recent airstrikes by the US in Libya, the city of Sirte, which contains a population of 80,000 civilians, a city already almost destroyed........... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Aug 3 13:01:24 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 13:01:24 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] More airstrikes in new US war in Libya Message-ID: More airstrikes in new US war in Libya By Peter Symonds 3 August 2016 US airstrikes on the Libyan coast city of Sirte, which began on Monday, continued yesterday as part of what American officials have made clear will be an ongoing military campaign. While nominally directed against Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) militias, the fresh eruption of American militarism is more broadly aimed at ensuring US dominance in the region. Pentagon spokesman Jeff Davis told the media that the US had hit five locations in Sirte on Monday and two yesterday, targeting tanks, vehicles, a rocket launcher and ISIS positions in the city. According to Associated Press, Marine Corps strike aircraft based on the USS Wasp, an amphibious assault ship in the Mediterranean, participated in the raids. The UN-backed puppet regime in Tripoli, the Government of National Accord (GNA), gave Washington the fig leaf of its formal approval to conduct the airstrikes. GNA units drawn from various militia groups are currently engaged in an offensive to drive ISIS fighters out of Sirte. Davis declared that the US military was simply assisting the GNA to retake Sirte, saying that “the duration of the operation will be measured based upon the length of time it takes for them to do that objective.” He claimed that the US airstrikes would likely last “weeks not months.” Davis indicated, however, that the commitment to the GNA “absolutely will endure”, even though “for right now” the target was Sirte. Unnamed US officials told Reuters that Monday’s raids marked the start of a sustained air campaign rather than another isolated strike. The previous US airstrikes took place in February on an ISIS training camp in the western city of Sabratha. Washington has been preparing a new military intervention in the oil-rich North African nation for months. General Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters in late May that a “long term mission” involving thousands of US troops was imminent. The delay has been in securing the GNA’s seal of approval. Speaking to the Military Times, US officials would not say whether there were US soldiers on the ground in Libya. However, they did acknowledge that small “contact teams” of special operations troops had gone into and out of the country in recent months to gather intelligence and forge alliances with local militias. British, French and Italian special forces have also been active in Libya. While Washington is justifying its new military operations in the name of the “war on terror”, the US-led military intervention in Libya in 2011 is directly responsible for creating ISIS and giving it a foothold in the country. The US and its allies relied heavily on militias linked to Al Qaeda to topple the Libyan government and murder its leader Muammar Gaddafi. The same Islamist militias, along with large quantities of Libyan arms, were then shipped off to take part in the new US-sponsored regime-change operation in Syria. The ISIS forces that seized control of Sirte last year are the US proxies that returned from the bloody Syrian civil war. The US claim to be acting in the name of a legitimate government is a sham. The unelected pro-Western GNA regime headed by Fayez al-Sarraj was patched together out of competing factions as part of an agreement signed just last December with the approval of the UN Security Council. It was only installed in Tripoli in March. A rival government based in the eastern city of Benghazi is headed by General Khalifa Haftar, a long-standing CIA asset who was prominent among the American proxy forces that ousted Gaddafi and is bitterly opposed to the GNA. Yesterday, Ahmed Mesmarri, a spokesman for Hafter’s forces, denounced the US airstrikes, declaring that Washington “had no permission, even under the cover of fighting extremism.” A parliamentarian representing the eastern government Abubaker Baira told the Wall Street Journal: “Unfortunately all sides of the Libyan conflict happily open their doors to this so-called military or political support, even if covertly, in the hope it will empower them against their domestic enemies.” Like Tripoli, Benghazi is a cesspool of international intrigue. Even though formally recognising the GNA, France has provided support to the Haftar regime along with Egypt and some of the Gulf States. French involvement was graphically exposed last week when President Francois Hollande acknowledged that three French security agents had been killed when their helicopter was shot down near Benghazi earlier last month. Yesterday, France attempted to mend relations with Tripoli by declaring its full support for the GNA and its efforts to unify the country. The new US military intervention in Libya takes place amidst rising tensions in the Middle East and Eastern Europe with Russia as well as in the Asia Pacific with China. The airstrikes in Sirte, which are undoubtedly the opening shot of a far broader operation, are not only designed to consolidate Washington’s grip over Libya and its oil fields but are meant as a warning to Moscow and Beijing. The decision to launch a new war was taken behind the backs of the American population with no attempt to secure congressional approval. The Obama administration absurdly cited the 2001 Authorisation for Use of Military Force that approved military action against those who had planned and carried out the 9/11 terrorist attacks. ISIS not only did not exist in 2001 but is now the sworn enemy of Al Qaeda. Obama issued no formal statement on the launching of another war, but made a few perfunctory remarks at a joint press conference yesterday with Singapore’s prime minister. After justifying the 2011 intervention as necessary to prevent a bloodbath, he declared that the new military operations were “to begin what is going to be a long process to establish a functioning government and security system there.” In reality, as in Iraq and Syria, the latest front in US imperialism’s never-ending “war on terror” will only spell new disasters for the Libyan people as Washington resorts to ever more desperate and reckless measures to secure its economic and strategic interests against its rivals. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Aug 3 13:01:24 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 13:01:24 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] More airstrikes in new US war in Libya Message-ID: More airstrikes in new US war in Libya By Peter Symonds 3 August 2016 US airstrikes on the Libyan coast city of Sirte, which began on Monday, continued yesterday as part of what American officials have made clear will be an ongoing military campaign. While nominally directed against Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) militias, the fresh eruption of American militarism is more broadly aimed at ensuring US dominance in the region. Pentagon spokesman Jeff Davis told the media that the US had hit five locations in Sirte on Monday and two yesterday, targeting tanks, vehicles, a rocket launcher and ISIS positions in the city. According to Associated Press, Marine Corps strike aircraft based on the USS Wasp, an amphibious assault ship in the Mediterranean, participated in the raids. The UN-backed puppet regime in Tripoli, the Government of National Accord (GNA), gave Washington the fig leaf of its formal approval to conduct the airstrikes. GNA units drawn from various militia groups are currently engaged in an offensive to drive ISIS fighters out of Sirte. Davis declared that the US military was simply assisting the GNA to retake Sirte, saying that “the duration of the operation will be measured based upon the length of time it takes for them to do that objective.” He claimed that the US airstrikes would likely last “weeks not months.” Davis indicated, however, that the commitment to the GNA “absolutely will endure”, even though “for right now” the target was Sirte. Unnamed US officials told Reuters that Monday’s raids marked the start of a sustained air campaign rather than another isolated strike. The previous US airstrikes took place in February on an ISIS training camp in the western city of Sabratha. Washington has been preparing a new military intervention in the oil-rich North African nation for months. General Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters in late May that a “long term mission” involving thousands of US troops was imminent. The delay has been in securing the GNA’s seal of approval. Speaking to the Military Times, US officials would not say whether there were US soldiers on the ground in Libya. However, they did acknowledge that small “contact teams” of special operations troops had gone into and out of the country in recent months to gather intelligence and forge alliances with local militias. British, French and Italian special forces have also been active in Libya. While Washington is justifying its new military operations in the name of the “war on terror”, the US-led military intervention in Libya in 2011 is directly responsible for creating ISIS and giving it a foothold in the country. The US and its allies relied heavily on militias linked to Al Qaeda to topple the Libyan government and murder its leader Muammar Gaddafi. The same Islamist militias, along with large quantities of Libyan arms, were then shipped off to take part in the new US-sponsored regime-change operation in Syria. The ISIS forces that seized control of Sirte last year are the US proxies that returned from the bloody Syrian civil war. The US claim to be acting in the name of a legitimate government is a sham. The unelected pro-Western GNA regime headed by Fayez al-Sarraj was patched together out of competing factions as part of an agreement signed just last December with the approval of the UN Security Council. It was only installed in Tripoli in March. A rival government based in the eastern city of Benghazi is headed by General Khalifa Haftar, a long-standing CIA asset who was prominent among the American proxy forces that ousted Gaddafi and is bitterly opposed to the GNA. Yesterday, Ahmed Mesmarri, a spokesman for Hafter’s forces, denounced the US airstrikes, declaring that Washington “had no permission, even under the cover of fighting extremism.” A parliamentarian representing the eastern government Abubaker Baira told the Wall Street Journal: “Unfortunately all sides of the Libyan conflict happily open their doors to this so-called military or political support, even if covertly, in the hope it will empower them against their domestic enemies.” Like Tripoli, Benghazi is a cesspool of international intrigue. Even though formally recognising the GNA, France has provided support to the Haftar regime along with Egypt and some of the Gulf States. French involvement was graphically exposed last week when President Francois Hollande acknowledged that three French security agents had been killed when their helicopter was shot down near Benghazi earlier last month. Yesterday, France attempted to mend relations with Tripoli by declaring its full support for the GNA and its efforts to unify the country. The new US military intervention in Libya takes place amidst rising tensions in the Middle East and Eastern Europe with Russia as well as in the Asia Pacific with China. The airstrikes in Sirte, which are undoubtedly the opening shot of a far broader operation, are not only designed to consolidate Washington’s grip over Libya and its oil fields but are meant as a warning to Moscow and Beijing. The decision to launch a new war was taken behind the backs of the American population with no attempt to secure congressional approval. The Obama administration absurdly cited the 2001 Authorisation for Use of Military Force that approved military action against those who had planned and carried out the 9/11 terrorist attacks. ISIS not only did not exist in 2001 but is now the sworn enemy of Al Qaeda. Obama issued no formal statement on the launching of another war, but made a few perfunctory remarks at a joint press conference yesterday with Singapore’s prime minister. After justifying the 2011 intervention as necessary to prevent a bloodbath, he declared that the new military operations were “to begin what is going to be a long process to establish a functioning government and security system there.” In reality, as in Iraq and Syria, the latest front in US imperialism’s never-ending “war on terror” will only spell new disasters for the Libyan people as Washington resorts to ever more desperate and reckless measures to secure its economic and strategic interests against its rivals. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Wed Aug 3 20:35:38 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 15:35:38 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] C G Estabrook's name is missing on Obama's birthday card In-Reply-To: <57a2516fa7c34_1f0b85f8b43465002629@ip-10-0-0-61.mail> References: <57a2516fa7c34_1f0b85f8b43465002629@ip-10-0-0-61.mail> Message-ID: <5FE7D4FA-7F60-4CB2-AE59-56365463C3E6@newsfromneptune.com> Hillary-- I’d sign only if you and he were in cells in The Hague, awaiting trial under the Nuremberg principles for launching wars of aggression. (The chief American prosecutor at Nuremberg, Robert H. Jackson, stated, "To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”) In hopes my birthday wish will be granted, --Carl > On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Hillary Clinton via Daily Kos wrote: > > C G Estabrook, today I have a favor to ask you for President Obama -- his birthday is tomorrow, and I want to do something special for him this year to show him how much he means to me and this whole campaign family. Will you sign the official campaign birthday card for President Obama so he can see how many people on this team love and appreciate him ? > > I’ve often said that President Obama doesn’t get the credit he deserves for saving our country from the worst economic crisis in decades. Because of his leadership, we have 15 million new jobs, the Affordable Care Act, marriage equality, and so much more. > > It means so much to me that he’s a part of this team, and I know he’ll be invaluable as we kick off these final 98 days until the election. So on Thursday, let’s show him that we’re grateful for all he’s done for our country, that we’re excited to work with him to win this November, and that we’re committed to working together to protect and build on his remarkable legacy. > > Add your name to sign his card now -- he’ll love knowing that you’re thinking of him on his special day : > > Thank you, > Hillary > > Paid for by Hillary Victory Fund, hillaryclinton.com/go > Sent via ActionNetwork.org . To update your email address or to stop receiving emails from Daily Kos, please click here . > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naiman at justforeignpolicy.org Thu Aug 4 23:13:18 2016 From: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (Robert Naiman) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 19:13:18 -0400 Subject: [Peace-discuss] John Kerry: Stop Demolition of Palestinian Village of Susya Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Just Foreign Policy Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:42 PM Subject: John Kerry: Stop Demolition of Palestinian Village of Susya To: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org [image: Just Foreign Policy] Dear Robert*,* *Call on Secretary Kerry to make absolutely clear that the U.S. will not tolerate the demolition of Susya.* Take Action In days, Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman will decide whether to destroy 40% of the Palestinian village of Susya, leaving a hundred people homeless. [1] *Urge Secretary of State John Kerry to make clear the U.S. won't tolerate the demolition of Susya by signing our petition at MoveOn .* Susya residents live on their agricultural lands, having been expelled from their original homes after an Israeli settlement was established nearby. Systematically denied building permits for decades, the families live in constant fear of demolitions. Parts of their village were bulldozed in 2001, 2006 and 2011. In July 2015, envoys from every EU state visited the village in solidarity. A month later, the U.S. expressed *strong opposition to “any demolitions in the village.”* But apparently, these statements have not been enough to make sure these families don’t see their homes destroyed again. * Urge Secretary Kerry to use the full influence of the United States to prevent the demolition of Susya by signing and sharing our petition . * Thanks for all you do to help make U.S. foreign policy more just, Robert Naiman, Avram Reisman, and Sarah Burns Just Foreign Policy *Help support our work! * If you think our work is important, support us with a $15 donation. http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/donate [image: Please support our work. Donate for a Just Foreign Policy] © 2016 Just Foreign Policy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cge at shout.net Fri Aug 5 23:47:09 2016 From: cge at shout.net (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:47:09 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Proposed flyer for 8/6 demo, downtown Champaign 2-4pm Message-ID: [text - recto] A.W.A.R.E. The Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana The U.S. government is waging illegal wars around the world and secretly twisting the international economy via ‘trade pacts’ (TPP, TTIP) for the benefit of less than 1% of the U.S. population. Join our demonstration the first Saturday of every month, at the intersection of Church and Neil in Champaign, 2-4pm Meet with us Saturdays at the Urbana Farmers’ Market (Lincoln Square) for books, bumper stickers, literature, and conversation Watch our weekly Urbana Public Television (channel 6) program “AWARE on the Air” (also on YouTube), and/or join us at noon Tuesdays in the Urbana City Council Chambers for the live unrehearsed recordings We meet Sundays at 5pm at Cafeteria & Company, 208 W. Main, Urbana; new members welcome: for information write us at *** President Obama is making war in eight countries; he is sending U.S. ‘special forces’ into more than 3/4 of the countries around the world; he has assassinated thousands by drone - the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times; and he is provoking war with Russia and China. Contact the president (202-456-1111) and our representatives in Congress (202-224-3121): tell them to end the wars and drone attacks, cut military spending by at least half, bring the troops home, and close the U.S. military’s 1,000 foreign bases; stop U.S. support for - and arms sales to - human rights abusers like Israel, and lead on global nuclear disarmament. President Barack Obama - Senator Dick Durbin - Senator Mark Kirk - Representative Rodney Davis - [text -verso] WAR CRIMES THAT WE AS U.S. VOTERS SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE AUGUST 6, 1945: THE U.S. ATOMIC BOMBING OF HIROSHIMA, JAPAN On his visit to Hiroshima last May, Obama did not, as some had vainly hoped he might, apologize for the August 6, 1945 atomic bombing of the city. Instead he gave a high-sounding speech against war. He did this as he was waging ongoing drone war against people in faraway countries - and approving plans to spend a trillion dollars upgrading the U.S. nuclear arsenal. He is the only president to make war throughout two presidential terms. The atom bombs were not dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki ‘to save lives by ending the war’. That was an official lie. The bombs were dropped to see how they worked and to show the world that the United States possessed overwhelming destructive power. Like the Vietnamese villages we destroyed ‘in order to save them’, like the countless Iraqi children who died as a result of U.S. sanctions, like the millions of people whom Bush and Obama killed in MENA (the Mideast and North Africa), the hundreds of thousands of agonizing men, women, and children in two Japanese cities remain on the debit side of the United States accounts with humanity, unpaid and unpunished. AUGUST 6, 2016: THE OBAMA-CLINTON BOMBING OF LIBYA HAS RESUMED Nearly five years after the Libyan city of Sirte was left in ruins following hundreds of NATO bombing raids and heavy fighting in the 2011 campaign to oust Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi - illegally launched by President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton - the Pentagon announced on August 1, 2016, a major new U.S. military escalation against ISIS fighters who have reportedly made Sirte their prime Libyan stronghold. The Pentagon said that U.S. airstrikes were already underway and further raised eyebrows by adding that the air campaign did not have “an end point at this particular moment in time.” These attacks are illegal under international law and the U.S. Constitution, but they are consistent with the long-term U.S. policy, stretching back into the last century through several administrations, Republican and Democratic alike. The U.S. government has been killing people in the Mideast for decades, in order to control the regions’s vast energy resources. The U.S. doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the U.S. a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries; that control benefits only the American economic elite - the one percent - and not Americans in general, who’ve seen wealth concentrate in fewer and fewer hands at an accelerating rate throughout the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations. The conduct of President Obama (and of probable future President Clinton) is consistent with this horrible record. President Obama was elected with the support of those who thought he would end the wars started by the Bush administration. Instead he attacked eight countries. (George Bush attacked six.) Obama’s drone assassinations (the New York Times says he chooses the targets himself, from lists prepared by the CIA) have killed thousands of civilians (not just the hundreds he admits to), including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children. It has been called the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times - targeting people suspected of perhaps intending to harm us some day, and any unfortunates who happen to be nearby... “Turns out I'm really good at killing people,” Obama said quietly. “Didn't know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” --from Mark Halperin & John Heilemann, DOUBLE DOWN: GAME CHANGE 2012 ### -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flyer-201608.rtfd.zip Type: application/zip Size: 4834 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- From cge at shout.net Fri Aug 5 23:47:09 2016 From: cge at shout.net (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:47:09 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Proposed flyer for 8/6 demo, downtown Champaign 2-4pm Message-ID: [text - recto] A.W.A.R.E. The Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana The U.S. government is waging illegal wars around the world and secretly twisting the international economy via ‘trade pacts’ (TPP, TTIP) for the benefit of less than 1% of the U.S. population. Join our demonstration the first Saturday of every month, at the intersection of Church and Neil in Champaign, 2-4pm Meet with us Saturdays at the Urbana Farmers’ Market (Lincoln Square) for books, bumper stickers, literature, and conversation Watch our weekly Urbana Public Television (channel 6) program “AWARE on the Air” (also on YouTube), and/or join us at noon Tuesdays in the Urbana City Council Chambers for the live unrehearsed recordings We meet Sundays at 5pm at Cafeteria & Company, 208 W. Main, Urbana; new members welcome: for information write us at *** President Obama is making war in eight countries; he is sending U.S. ‘special forces’ into more than 3/4 of the countries around the world; he has assassinated thousands by drone - the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times; and he is provoking war with Russia and China. Contact the president (202-456-1111) and our representatives in Congress (202-224-3121): tell them to end the wars and drone attacks, cut military spending by at least half, bring the troops home, and close the U.S. military’s 1,000 foreign bases; stop U.S. support for - and arms sales to - human rights abusers like Israel, and lead on global nuclear disarmament. President Barack Obama - Senator Dick Durbin - Senator Mark Kirk - Representative Rodney Davis - [text -verso] WAR CRIMES THAT WE AS U.S. VOTERS SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE AUGUST 6, 1945: THE U.S. ATOMIC BOMBING OF HIROSHIMA, JAPAN On his visit to Hiroshima last May, Obama did not, as some had vainly hoped he might, apologize for the August 6, 1945 atomic bombing of the city. Instead he gave a high-sounding speech against war. He did this as he was waging ongoing drone war against people in faraway countries - and approving plans to spend a trillion dollars upgrading the U.S. nuclear arsenal. He is the only president to make war throughout two presidential terms. The atom bombs were not dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki ‘to save lives by ending the war’. That was an official lie. The bombs were dropped to see how they worked and to show the world that the United States possessed overwhelming destructive power. Like the Vietnamese villages we destroyed ‘in order to save them’, like the countless Iraqi children who died as a result of U.S. sanctions, like the millions of people whom Bush and Obama killed in MENA (the Mideast and North Africa), the hundreds of thousands of agonizing men, women, and children in two Japanese cities remain on the debit side of the United States accounts with humanity, unpaid and unpunished. AUGUST 6, 2016: THE OBAMA-CLINTON BOMBING OF LIBYA HAS RESUMED Nearly five years after the Libyan city of Sirte was left in ruins following hundreds of NATO bombing raids and heavy fighting in the 2011 campaign to oust Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi - illegally launched by President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton - the Pentagon announced on August 1, 2016, a major new U.S. military escalation against ISIS fighters who have reportedly made Sirte their prime Libyan stronghold. The Pentagon said that U.S. airstrikes were already underway and further raised eyebrows by adding that the air campaign did not have “an end point at this particular moment in time.” These attacks are illegal under international law and the U.S. Constitution, but they are consistent with the long-term U.S. policy, stretching back into the last century through several administrations, Republican and Democratic alike. The U.S. government has been killing people in the Mideast for decades, in order to control the regions’s vast energy resources. The U.S. doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the U.S. a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries; that control benefits only the American economic elite - the one percent - and not Americans in general, who’ve seen wealth concentrate in fewer and fewer hands at an accelerating rate throughout the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations. The conduct of President Obama (and of probable future President Clinton) is consistent with this horrible record. President Obama was elected with the support of those who thought he would end the wars started by the Bush administration. Instead he attacked eight countries. (George Bush attacked six.) Obama’s drone assassinations (the New York Times says he chooses the targets himself, from lists prepared by the CIA) have killed thousands of civilians (not just the hundreds he admits to), including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children. It has been called the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times - targeting people suspected of perhaps intending to harm us some day, and any unfortunates who happen to be nearby... “Turns out I'm really good at killing people,” Obama said quietly. “Didn't know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” --from Mark Halperin & John Heilemann, DOUBLE DOWN: GAME CHANGE 2012 ### -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Tue Aug 9 00:23:41 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:23:41 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] 8 Ways Privatization Has Failed America Message-ID: <030b01d1f1d4$4b4292f0$e1c7b8d0$@comcast.net> Published on Monday, August 05, 2013 by Common Dreams 8 Ways Privatization Has Failed America by Paul Buchheit Description: http://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/imce-images/private_sucks.jp gSome of America's leading news analysts are beginning to recognize the fallacy of the "free market." Said Ted Koppel, "We are privatizing ourselves into one disaster after another." Fareed Zakaria admitted, "I am a big fan of the free market...But precisely because it is so powerful, in places where it doesn't work well, it can cause huge distortions." They're right. A little analysis reveals that privatization doesn't seem to work in any of the areas vital to the American public. Health Care Our private health care system is by far the most expensive system in the developed world. Forty-two percent of sick Americans skipped doctor's visits and/or medication purchases in 2011 because of excessive costs. The price of common surgeries is anywhere from three to ten times higher in the U.S. than in Great Britain, Canada, France, or Germany. Some of the documented tales: a $15,000 charge for lab tests for which a Medicare patient would have paid a few hundred dollars; an $8,000 special stress test for which Medicare would have paid $554; and a $60,000 gall bladder operation, which was covered for $2,000 under a private policy. As the examples begin to make clear, Medicare is more cost-effective. According to the Council for Affordable Health Insurance, Medicare administrative costs are about one-third that of private health insurance. More importantly, our ageing population has been staying healthy. While as a nation we have a shorter life expectancy than almost all other developed countries, Americans covered by Medicare INCREASED their life expectancy by 3.5 years from the 1960s to the turn of the century. Free-market health care has been taking care of the CEOs. Ronald DePinho, president of MD Anderson Cancer Center in Texas, made $1,845,000 in 2012. That's over ten times as much as the $170,000 made by the federal Medicare Administrator in 2010. Stephen J. Hemsley, the CEO of United Health Group, made three hundred times as much, with most of his $48 million coming from stock gains. Water A Citigroup economist gushed, "Water as an asset class will, in my view, become eventually the single most important physical-commodity based asset class, dwarfing oil, copper, agricultural commodities and precious metals." A 2009 analysis of water and sewer utilities by Food and Water Watch found that private companies charge up to 80 percent more for water and 100 percent more for sewer services. A more recent study confirms that privatization will generally "increase the long-term costs borne by the public." Privatization is "shortsighted, irresponsible and costly." Numerous examples of water privatization abuses or failures have been documented in California, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Texas, Massachusetts, Rhode Island -- just about anywhere it's been tried. Meanwhile, corporations have been making outrageous profits on a commodity that should be almost free. Nestle buys water for about 1/100 of a penny per gallon, and sells it back for ten dollars. Their bottled water is not much different from tap water. Worse yet, corporations profit from the very water they pollute. Dioxin-dumping Dow Chemicals is investing in water purification. Monsanto has been accused of privatizing its own pollution sites in order to sell filtered water back to the public. Internet, TV, and Phone It seems the whole world is leaving us behind on the Internet. According to the OECD, South Korea has Internet speeds up to 200 times faster than the average speed in the U.S., at about half the cost. Customers are charged about $30 a month in Hong Kong or Korea or parts of Europe for much faster service than in the U.S., while triple-play packages in other countries go for about half of our Comcast or AT&T charges. Bloomberg notes that deregulators in the 1990s anticipated a market-based decline in phone and cable bills, an "invisible hand" that would steer competing companies to lower prices for all of us. Verizon and AT&T and Comcast and Time-Warner haven't let it happen. Transportation As Republicans continue to deride public transportation as 'socialist' and 'Soviet-style,' China surges ahead with a plan to create the world's most advanced high-speed rail transport network. Government-run high-speed rail systems have been successful in numerous other countries, and England and Brazil both lament industry privatization. As a warning to wannabe Post Office privatizers, Greyhound and Trailways once provided service to remote locations in America, but deregulation intervened. The bus companies eliminated unprofitable routes, and cutbacks and salary decreases, all in the name of optimal profits, resulted in drivers working up to 100 hours a week -- a fact to consider any time each of us ride the bus. With privatization comes automatic rate increases. Chicago surrendered its parking meters for 75 years and almost immediately faced a doubling of parking rates. California's experiments with roadway privatization resulted in cost overruns, public outrage, and a bankruptcy; equally disastrous was the state's foray into electric power privatization. In Pennsylvania, an analysis of school busing by the Keystone Research Center concluded that "Contracting out substantially increases state spending on transportation services." Banking The industry is bloated with deceit and depravity. Almost all of the big names have taken part. Goldman Sachs designed mortgage packages to lose money for everyone except Goldman. Countrywide and Wells Fargo targeted Blacks and Hispanics for unaffordable subprime loans. HSBC Bank laundered money for Mexican drug cartels. GE Capital skimmed billions of dollars from its customers. Dozens of hedge fund managers have been guilty of insider trading. Bank of America and JP Morgan Chase hid billions of dollars of bonuses and losses and loans from investors. Banks fixed interest rates in the LIBOR scandal. They illegally foreclosed on millions of homeowners in the robo-signing scandal. Matt Taibbi explained to us how financial malfeasance led to the bubbles in dot-com stocks and housing and oil prices and commodities that extract trillions of dollars away from society. This is all the result of free-market deregulated private business. The best-known public bank, on the other hand, is the Bank of North Dakota, which remains profitable while serving small business and the public at low cost relative to the financial industry. Prisons One would think it a worthy goal to rehabilitate prisoners and gradually empty the jails. But business is too good. With each prisoner generating up to $40,000 a year in revenue, it has apparently made economic sense to put over two million people behind bars. The need to fill privatized prisons has contributed to mass jailings for drug offenses, with African Americans, who make up 13% of the population, accounting for 53.5 percent of all persons who entered prison because of a drug conviction. Yet marijuana usage rates are about the same for Blacks and whites. Studies show that private prisons perform poorly in numerous ways: prevention of intra-prison violence, jail conditions, rehabilitation efforts. Investigations in Ohio and New Jersey revealed a familiar pattern of money-saving cutbacks and worsening conditions. Education The notion that charter schools outperform traditional public schools is not supported by the facts. An updated 2013 Stanford University CREDO study concluded that privatized schools were slightly better in reading and slightly worse in math, with little difference overall. Charter results have shown an improvement since 2009. An independent study by Bold Approach found that "reforms deliver few benefits, often harm the students they purport to help, and divert attention from...policies with more promise to weaken the link between poverty and low educational attainment." Just as with prisons and hospitals, cost-saving business strategies apply to the privatization of our children's education. Charter school teachers have fewer years of experience and a higher turnover rate. Non-teacher positions have insufficient retirement plans and health insurance, and much lower pay. If big money has its way, our children may become high-tech symbols and objects. Bill Gates proposes quality control for the student assembly line, with video footage from the classrooms sent to evaluators to check off teaching skills. Consumer Protection Warning signs about unregulated privatization are becoming clearer and more deadly. The Texas fertilizer plant, where 14 people were killed in an explosion and fire, was last inspected by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) over 25 years ago. The U.S. Forest Service, stunned by the Prescott, Arizona fire that killed 19, was forced by the sequester to cut 500 firefighters. The rail disaster in Lac-Megantic, Quebec followed deregulation of Canadian railways. Regulation is meant to protect all of us, but anti-government activists have worked hard to turn us against our own best interests. Among recommended Republican cuts is the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), which rescued hundreds of people after Hurricane Sandy while serving millions more with meals and water. In another ominous note for the future, the House passed the Clean Water Cooperative Federalism Act of 2011, which would deny the Environmental Protection Agency the right to enforce the Clean Water Act. Deregulation not only deprives Americans of protection, but it also endangers us with the persistent threat of corporate misconduct. As late as 2004 Monsanto had insisted that Agent Orange "is not the cause of serious long-term health effects." Dow Chemical, the co-manufacturer of Agent Orange, blamed the government. Halliburton pleaded guilty to destroying evidence after the Gulf of Mexico oil spill in 2010. Cleanups cost much more than the fines imposed on offending companies, as government costs can run into the billions, or even tens of billions, of dollars. People vs. Profits As summed up by US News, "Private industry is not going to step in and save people from drowning, or help them rebuild their homes without a solid profit." In order to stay afloat as a nation we need each other, not savvy businesspeople who presume to tell us all how to be rich. We can't all be rich. We just want to keep from drowning. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 License Description: http://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/styles/cd_bio_small/public/b uchheit.jpg?itok=6AKPIgrL Paul Buchheit is a college teacher, an active member of US Uncut Chicago, founder and developer of social justice and educational websites (UsAgainstGreed.org, PayUpNow.org, RappingHistory.org), and the editor and main author of " American Wars: Illusions and Realities" (Clarity Press). He can be reached at paul at UsAgainstGreed.org. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 75325 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5092 bytes Desc: not available URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Tue Aug 9 00:27:17 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:27:17 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] 8 Ways Privatization Has Failed America Message-ID: <031d01d1f1d4$cd950030$68bf0090$@comcast.net> Published on Monday, August 05, 2013 by Common Dreams 8 Ways Privatization Has Failed America by Paul Buchheit Description: http://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/imce-images/private_sucks.jp gSome of America's leading news analysts are beginning to recognize the fallacy of the "free market." Said Ted Koppel, "We are privatizing ourselves into one disaster after another." Fareed Zakaria admitted, "I am a big fan of the free market...But precisely because it is so powerful, in places where it doesn't work well, it can cause huge distortions." They're right. A little analysis reveals that privatization doesn't seem to work in any of the areas vital to the American public. Health Care Our private health care system is by far the most expensive system in the developed world. Forty-two percent of sick Americans skipped doctor's visits and/or medication purchases in 2011 because of excessive costs. The price of common surgeries is anywhere from three to ten times higher in the U.S. than in Great Britain, Canada, France, or Germany. Some of the documented tales: a $15,000 charge for lab tests for which a Medicare patient would have paid a few hundred dollars; an $8,000 special stress test for which Medicare would have paid $554; and a $60,000 gall bladder operation, which was covered for $2,000 under a private policy. As the examples begin to make clear, Medicare is more cost-effective. According to the Council for Affordable Health Insurance, Medicare administrative costs are about one-third that of private health insurance. More importantly, our ageing population has been staying healthy. While as a nation we have a shorter life expectancy than almost all other developed countries, Americans covered by Medicare INCREASED their life expectancy by 3.5 years from the 1960s to the turn of the century. Free-market health care has been taking care of the CEOs. Ronald DePinho, president of MD Anderson Cancer Center in Texas, made $1,845,000 in 2012. That's over ten times as much as the $170,000 made by the federal Medicare Administrator in 2010. Stephen J. Hemsley, the CEO of United Health Group, made three hundred times as much, with most of his $48 million coming from stock gains. Water A Citigroup economist gushed, "Water as an asset class will, in my view, become eventually the single most important physical-commodity based asset class, dwarfing oil, copper, agricultural commodities and precious metals." A 2009 analysis of water and sewer utilities by Food and Water Watch found that private companies charge up to 80 percent more for water and 100 percent more for sewer services. A more recent study confirms that privatization will generally "increase the long-term costs borne by the public." Privatization is "shortsighted, irresponsible and costly." Numerous examples of water privatization abuses or failures have been documented in California, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Texas, Massachusetts, Rhode Island -- just about anywhere it's been tried. Meanwhile, corporations have been making outrageous profits on a commodity that should be almost free. Nestle buys water for about 1/100 of a penny per gallon, and sells it back for ten dollars. Their bottled water is not much different from tap water. Worse yet, corporations profit from the very water they pollute. Dioxin-dumping Dow Chemicals is investing in water purification. Monsanto has been accused of privatizing its own pollution sites in order to sell filtered water back to the public. Internet, TV, and Phone It seems the whole world is leaving us behind on the Internet. According to the OECD, South Korea has Internet speeds up to 200 times faster than the average speed in the U.S., at about half the cost. Customers are charged about $30 a month in Hong Kong or Korea or parts of Europe for much faster service than in the U.S., while triple-play packages in other countries go for about half of our Comcast or AT&T charges. Bloomberg notes that deregulators in the 1990s anticipated a market-based decline in phone and cable bills, an "invisible hand" that would steer competing companies to lower prices for all of us. Verizon and AT&T and Comcast and Time-Warner haven't let it happen. Transportation As Republicans continue to deride public transportation as 'socialist' and 'Soviet-style,' China surges ahead with a plan to create the world's most advanced high-speed rail transport network. Government-run high-speed rail systems have been successful in numerous other countries, and England and Brazil both lament industry privatization. As a warning to wannabe Post Office privatizers, Greyhound and Trailways once provided service to remote locations in America, but deregulation intervened. The bus companies eliminated unprofitable routes, and cutbacks and salary decreases, all in the name of optimal profits, resulted in drivers working up to 100 hours a week -- a fact to consider any time each of us ride the bus. With privatization comes automatic rate increases. Chicago surrendered its parking meters for 75 years and almost immediately faced a doubling of parking rates. California's experiments with roadway privatization resulted in cost overruns, public outrage, and a bankruptcy; equally disastrous was the state's foray into electric power privatization. In Pennsylvania, an analysis of school busing by the Keystone Research Center concluded that "Contracting out substantially increases state spending on transportation services." Banking The industry is bloated with deceit and depravity. Almost all of the big names have taken part. Goldman Sachs designed mortgage packages to lose money for everyone except Goldman. Countrywide and Wells Fargo targeted Blacks and Hispanics for unaffordable subprime loans. HSBC Bank laundered money for Mexican drug cartels. GE Capital skimmed billions of dollars from its customers. Dozens of hedge fund managers have been guilty of insider trading. Bank of America and JP Morgan Chase hid billions of dollars of bonuses and losses and loans from investors. Banks fixed interest rates in the LIBOR scandal. They illegally foreclosed on millions of homeowners in the robo-signing scandal. Matt Taibbi explained to us how financial malfeasance led to the bubbles in dot-com stocks and housing and oil prices and commodities that extract trillions of dollars away from society. This is all the result of free-market deregulated private business. The best-known public bank, on the other hand, is the Bank of North Dakota, which remains profitable while serving small business and the public at low cost relative to the financial industry. Prisons One would think it a worthy goal to rehabilitate prisoners and gradually empty the jails. But business is too good. With each prisoner generating up to $40,000 a year in revenue, it has apparently made economic sense to put over two million people behind bars. The need to fill privatized prisons has contributed to mass jailings for drug offenses, with African Americans, who make up 13% of the population, accounting for 53.5 percent of all persons who entered prison because of a drug conviction. Yet marijuana usage rates are about the same for Blacks and whites. Studies show that private prisons perform poorly in numerous ways: prevention of intra-prison violence, jail conditions, rehabilitation efforts. Investigations in Ohio and New Jersey revealed a familiar pattern of money-saving cutbacks and worsening conditions. Education The notion that charter schools outperform traditional public schools is not supported by the facts. An updated 2013 Stanford University CREDO study concluded that privatized schools were slightly better in reading and slightly worse in math, with little difference overall. Charter results have shown an improvement since 2009. An independent study by Bold Approach found that "reforms deliver few benefits, often harm the students they purport to help, and divert attention from...policies with more promise to weaken the link between poverty and low educational attainment." Just as with prisons and hospitals, cost-saving business strategies apply to the privatization of our children's education. Charter school teachers have fewer years of experience and a higher turnover rate. Non-teacher positions have insufficient retirement plans and health insurance, and much lower pay. If big money has its way, our children may become high-tech symbols and objects. Bill Gates proposes quality control for the student assembly line, with video footage from the classrooms sent to evaluators to check off teaching skills. Consumer Protection Warning signs about unregulated privatization are becoming clearer and more deadly. The Texas fertilizer plant, where 14 people were killed in an explosion and fire, was last inspected by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) over 25 years ago. The U.S. Forest Service, stunned by the Prescott, Arizona fire that killed 19, was forced by the sequester to cut 500 firefighters. The rail disaster in Lac-Megantic, Quebec followed deregulation of Canadian railways. Regulation is meant to protect all of us, but anti-government activists have worked hard to turn us against our own best interests. Among recommended Republican cuts is the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), which rescued hundreds of people after Hurricane Sandy while serving millions more with meals and water. In another ominous note for the future, the House passed the Clean Water Cooperative Federalism Act of 2011, which would deny the Environmental Protection Agency the right to enforce the Clean Water Act. Deregulation not only deprives Americans of protection, but it also endangers us with the persistent threat of corporate misconduct. As late as 2004 Monsanto had insisted that Agent Orange "is not the cause of serious long-term health effects." Dow Chemical, the co-manufacturer of Agent Orange, blamed the government. Halliburton pleaded guilty to destroying evidence after the Gulf of Mexico oil spill in 2010. Cleanups cost much more than the fines imposed on offending companies, as government costs can run into the billions, or even tens of billions, of dollars. People vs. Profits As summed up by US News, "Private industry is not going to step in and save people from drowning, or help them rebuild their homes without a solid profit." In order to stay afloat as a nation we need each other, not savvy businesspeople who presume to tell us all how to be rich. We can't all be rich. We just want to keep from drowning. 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Baraka is the founding executive director of the US Human Rights Network and coordinator of the U.S.-based Black Left Unity Network's Committee on International Affairs. He has served on the boards of Amnesty International USA, the Center for Constitutional Rights and Africa Action. These are excerpts of Baraka speaking in his acceptance speech and at a news conference during the party convention. _____ TRANSCRIPT This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form. AMY GOODMAN: This is Democracy Now!, democracynow.org. This is "Breaking with Convention: War, Peace and the Presidency. I'm Amy Goodman. Today we're looking at the weekend's Green Party convention in Houston, where Dr. Jill Stein accepted the party's presidential nomination. Her running mate is Ajamu Baraka, the founding executive director of the US Human Rights Network. He spoke on Saturday in Houston. AJAMU BARAKA: Brothers and sisters, friends, we are at a critical moment-as Jill says, a transformational moment. We have tremendous opportunities before us. The American people are longing for a change. They are ready to do something different. And we have to be the vehicle for that difference. You know, there are difficult conditions that the people face. You know, they tell us that there has been a recovery and things are all right from the crisis. But you know what? There are millions of people, people who we work with, who haven't experienced any kind of recovery. There are millions of people who still don't have a place to lay their head at night. There's a reason why the fastest-growing population of homeless people are black women with children. There are millions of people who would like to have a job where they can live a decent life, but they don't have it. And if they have a job, that basically they are making starvation wages; they're working two and three different jobs just to make ends meet. But they tell us things are better. We have a situation where, as a consequence of austerity, across this country, in communities where we live and work, they're closing down schools. People live in communities where they can't go to the store, because there's no store. So you have like 48 million people who are living in situations where they are going to bed every night hungry. We have a situation where, basically, even with so-called Obamacare, we have millions still without healthcare. These are difficult conditions, difficult conditions. And people are wondering why. Why do we have to-why do we have to accept this kind of situation? And so, when the two parties attempt to try to herd people based on fear, we find that today there are millions of people who are prepared to do something different, who are prepared to go another way. And we are going to be there to provide that opportunity for a new day and another way. My brothers and sisters, I have lived my entire life committed to the notion of independent politics, building alternative power. I understood that, basically, we had some real possibilities in advancing that struggle for political independence using the electoral process. And that's where Dr. Stein and the Green Party comes in, for me, personally, because you all get it. Dr. Stein understands that you can't transform a-you can't transform a system without struggle, that you have to organize the people, that the electoral process is in fact a process by how we build power. And for me, that is what is attractive to this process and was the basis for me accepting when Dr. Stein called and said, "Ajamu, are you ready to join me?" And I said, "Dr. Stein, I thought about it, I know where you're coming from, and you can count me in. I'm with you." It is that commitment to building popular power, it is that commitment to the people, it is that understanding that we have to build a multinational movement here in this country based on the needs and the aspirations of working people, that I joined this effort. It is that commitment, that I stand here proudly and say to all of you it is my honor to accept the nomination for the vice presidency of the United States from the Green Party. AMY GOODMAN: That's Green Party vice-presidential nominee Ajamu Baraka speaking in Houston Saturday at the Green Party convention. He's founding executive director of the US Human Rights Network, coordinator of the U.S.-based Black Left Unity Network's Committee on International Affairs. He has served on the boards of Amnesty International USA and the Center for Constitutional Rights, as well as Africa Action. On Saturday, he also spoke about police brutality at a news conference during the convention. AJAMU BARAKA: Black males are always suspicious, even when we have the right uniform on. And as Dr. Stein said, this is something that we have to address here in this country, and we really intend to. You know, one of the things that really is still-is outrageous to me is that one of the reasons why police forces appear to operate with impunity is that there doesn't appear to be a consequence for these kinds of actions. Not only do we have someone being detained for 35 minutes, which is an assault on your dignity, we're having-we have people who are being murdered now almost every week, it appears. But yet, we have an administration that is supposed to be responsible for protecting the rights of all citizens, and they have a Civil Rights Division, and they have the power to intervene and to conduct investigations and to prosecute, and out of all of the examples we know of, all of these shootings of unarmed black men-and women now-we have one indictment, over all of these years. That's outrageous. While at the same time, what many people don't know is that in Baltimore and in Ferguson, the young, primarily black, poor folks who involved in-were involved in acts of resistance, they ended up feeling the full weight of the federal government. The federal government intervened into the state and brought indictments against a number of protesters in both Ferguson and in Baltimore. We have people in Baltimore right now who are now serving draconian time now-eight years, 12 years-for things that, in the past, would have been maybe a misdemeanor or probation, because they were prosecuted directly by the federal government. So, you know, when you see these-this kind of imbalance, you know, would we be surprised that the police forces would be emboldened, knowing that basically they can almost do anything without any kind of repercussions? That's got to be reversed. 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And we’d like to invite you to attend and host watch parties all over the country! [CNN-town-hall-meme.png] We get what you may be thinking. It’s totally unexpected for a candidate who pulled in less than one-half of one percent of the popular vote in 2012 to now poll as high as 7 percent in recent polls. And now she’s going to be hosting her own CNN Town Hall! So how did we come this far? It took millions of people realizing they were in an abusive relationship with the two-party system. It took years of putting up with declining wages and unaffordable health care. It took 43 million Americans swimming in $1.3 trillion in student debt. It took 400,000 people marching in the streets of New York City and demonstrating against policies that have stuck us in climate change's devastating path. It took Black Lives Matter activists stopping traffic on major highways to bring attention to unarmed blacks being five times more likely than unarmed whites to be shot and killed by a police officer. Jill’s message is not new. In 2012, she spoke about the same issues. But this year, millions of Americans have caught on and they’ve decided it’s time for a breakup with the political establishment. This country needs a World War II-style mobilization before rising sea levels engulf millions of homes, student loans continue eating through paychecks and systemic racism drives our country into further chaos. Will you attend or host a party to watch Jill’s CNN Town Hall on Wednesday, August 17? A Green New Deal is what our country needs. Next Wednesday, we need to make sure Jill’s message reaches its largest audience yet. It’s in our hands! The Jill Stein Campaign Team P.S. Are you going to attend or host a CNN Town Hall watch party? RSVP to an event or post details about your party! 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Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mike Fox PDA National Date: Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:02 PM Subject: Help Us Bring Medea To You To: Robert Naiman Dear Robert, [image: Medea_Benjamin_House_Foreign_Affairs_Committee_LX6829FTzNyl.jpg] PDA Advisory Board member Medea Benjamin is a true fighter for peace. We've proudly stood with her organization Code Pink over the years, as they're never afraid to speak truth to power, and make the pro-war powerful uncomfortable in the process. A prolific writer, Medea has just completed a new work entitled "Kingdom Of The Unjust: Behind the Saudi-US Connection." Our unjustifiably cozy relationship with one of the worst human rights abusers on the planet is a disgrace, and Medea's book is sure to become a seminal work on the subject. We're helping to sponsor her nation wide book tour to get this vital message out, and we ask that you help us with a contribution of any amount. Any donation of $100 or more get's a free signed copy of her book, but any amount is greatly appreciated. Even $5 can help make a difference in her discount travel accommodations. And anything you can give will work to keep peace at the forefront of the PDA agenda. Also, if you would like to have Medea speak in your area, please contact mikefox at pdamerica.org and we'll see if we can't work something out. Thanks so much for anything you can do to help us get this vital message out. Peace, Mike F. for Donna, Judy, Deb, Mike H., Janis, and Kim PS: For just how bad Saudi Arabia is from a human rights standpoint, see Amnesty International's Report . And then please toss a few pennies in the PDA tip jar so we can make sure Medea's message floods the nation. http://pda.nationbuilder.com/ [image: Facebook.jpg] [image: Twitter.jpg] [image: Logo-Flickr.jpg] [image: YouTube.jpg] [image: pinterest3.jpg] Paid for by Progressive Democrats of America (http://www.pdamerica.org ) Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee ------------------------------ Progressive Democrats of America · Grand Rapids, MI 49515, United States -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r-szoke at illinois.edu Fri Aug 12 02:20:20 2016 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 02:20:20 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Should we try to bring Medea to C-U to talk about Saudi Arabia? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D4E90BA-E3BF-42DD-89D7-B0E0BF2599B4@illinois.edu> Sounds like a good idea if it is not too expensive. I’ll contribute something. ~~ Ron On Aug 11, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss > wrote: What do you think? Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mike Fox PDA National > Date: Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:02 PM Subject: Help Us Bring Medea To You To: Robert Naiman > [http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/themes/560b0f33ec8d8379d1000003/attachments/original/1444050888/National2.jpg?1444050888] Dear Robert, [Medea_Benjamin_House_Foreign_Affairs_Committee_LX6829FTzNyl.jpg] PDA Advisory Board member Medea Benjamin is a true fighter for peace. We've proudly stood with her organization Code Pink over the years, as they're never afraid to speak truth to power, and make the pro-war powerful uncomfortable in the process. A prolific writer, Medea has just completed a new work entitled "Kingdom Of The Unjust: Behind the Saudi-US Connection." Our unjustifiably cozy relationship with one of the worst human rights abusers on the planet is a disgrace, and Medea's book is sure to become a seminal work on the subject. We're helping to sponsor her nation wide book tour to get this vital message out, and we ask that you help us with a contribution of any amount. Any donation of $100 or more get's a free signed copy of her book, but any amount is greatly appreciated. Even $5 can help make a difference in her discount travel accommodations. And anything you can give will work to keep peace at the forefront of the PDA agenda. Also, if you would like to have Medea speak in your area, please contact mikefox at pdamerica.org and we'll see if we can't work something out. Thanks so much for anything you can do to help us get this vital message out. Peace, Mike F. for Donna, Judy, Deb, Mike H., Janis, and Kim PS: For just how bad Saudi Arabia is from a human rights standpoint, see Amnesty International's Report. And then please toss a few pennies in the PDA tip jar so we can make sure Medea's message floods the nation. http://pda.nationbuilder.com/ [Facebook.jpg] [Twitter.jpg] [Logo-Flickr.jpg] [YouTube.jpg] [pinterest3.jpg] Paid for by Progressive Democrats of America (http://www.pdamerica.org) Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee ________________________________ Progressive Democrats of America · Grand Rapids, MI 49515, United States _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r-szoke at illinois.edu Fri Aug 12 03:18:36 2016 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 03:18:36 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Halle & Chomsky on LEV Message-ID: <83D0E7C5-B206-4976-A6AE-E917CDCFB8D2@illinois.edu> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What's changed in the last two months (since this statement was written) is that it has become clear that Hillary Clinton is not the lesser evil (but perhaps, as Glen Ford said of Obama, 'the more effective evil'). Clinton's policies on war and the economy are worse than Trump's. She carries on the political programs of all recent administrations, Republican and Democrat alike: neoconservatism (more war, as the US attempts to reverse by military force its relative decline in the world economy) and neoliberalism (more inequality, as wealth in the US concentrates in fewer and fewer hands, at an accelerating rate) Remarkably enough, Trump has broken with that tradition and presented a class politics of a sort abandoned by US liberals 40 years ago. (Inter alia, see Jeffrey St. Clair’s acute analysis of Trump’s acceptance speech at the Republican convention: .) He has become the unlikely spokesman for the 80% of the population who have seen their livelihoods and prospects curtailed in a generation, and especially since 2008. His class politics presents a severe and unexpected challenge to Clinton’s identity politics, the ideology - rather, propaganda cover - of the 'political class' (Mosca, Weber - roughly the 20% of Americans who've gone to a good college.) Adolph Reed's refutation of IP is unsparing: . As a result, Clinton’s formerly apparently easy victory is no longer sure. I will be voting for Jill Stein, the Green party presidential candidate, who like Trump is neither a neoliberal nor a neoconservative, but whose positions on war and the economy (and other matters, notably climate catastrophe) are better than those of either major party candidate. And I won’t be dissuaded by the argument that a vote for a third party helps Trump, because on war and the economy his class politics are substantially superior to Clinton’s identity politics - which defend the US economic elite, the one percent. —CGE > On Aug 11, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Aug 12 11:58:30 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 11:58:30 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Ditto for Killer Koh- Judgment at the American Nuremberg Tribunal against Bush & Obama et al. Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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DG From baldwinricky at yahoo.com Mon Aug 15 18:11:04 2016 From: baldwinricky at yahoo.com (Ricky Baldwin) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] union demos for Move-In Day - Thursday References: <476007127.14334383.1471284664861.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <476007127.14334383.1471284664861.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> SEIU 73 at it again! Please pass it on.  SEIU Local 73 invites you to demonstrate on Freshman Move-In Day this Thursday August 18 from 12-1pm and again 3-5pm between two campus residence halls known as PAR & FAR, just off Lincoln Ave to the west, in the College Court median. This is between Pennsylvania Ave and Florida Avenues. Parking will be virtually non-existent all day due to the parents and students moving into the res halls, which is why we are there.  The best advice we can give you is to either take the bus or park as far away as you can walk and hike over.  Signs will beavailable, but please feel free to bring your own.  We want parents and students to know that the issues they have heard about at Chicago State and Eastern are here, too, that we cannot perform the services as promised and that students and families have paidfor at past levels with the staffing levels we currently have, and that the State budget crisis does NOT mean the University is broke -- it's the administrative priorities that are broken. At SEIU, in addition to critical and even dangerous understaffing and in some departments over 2 years with no hiring at all, we are facing very aggressive negotiating proposals, including a potential end to the eight-hour day and unlimited increases in parkingfees.  Not only this, but of course all State employees are facing a potential doubling (or more) of healthcare costs if the Governor gets his way, which is effectively a pay cut of between $1000-5000 for our members - some of whom, only make about $18,000 a year - and even worse for some others. We have two different times to accommodate different schedules.  Please come when you can and stay just as long as you can.  Many hands make light work.  Thanks you as always for the wonderful solidarity in this community. Ricky   "Speak your mind, even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Takes 10 seconds to > fill out the callback report and add to the tally we can report to > people in DC. 160 people reported to us yesterday that they called > House offices, and that was after we sent email to 100,000 people, so > if you call and report your call, you are one in 1000, even among > people who care enough about this stuff to be on an email list devoted > to it. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Just Foreign Policy* > > Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:10 AM > Subject: Urge your Senator to stop enabling Saudi bombing of kids in Yemen > To: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org > > > Just Foreign Policy > > > Dear Robert, > > Following the news this past weekend that a Saudi-led coalition > airstrike killed 10 children while they were studying in a school in > Yemen, California Democratic Congressman Ted Lieu said > : > > “I have tried numerous times to work with the Administration to > stop the United States from assisting Saudi Arabia in their > indiscriminate killing of civilians in Yemen. But when Saudi > Arabia continues to kill civilians, and in this case children, > enough is enough. Having served on active duty, one of my > responsibilities was to teach the Law of War. I am also a graduate > of Air War College. The indiscriminate civilian killings by Saudi > Arabia look like war crimes to me. In this case, children as young > as 8 were killed by Saudi Arabian air strikes. By assisting Saudi > Arabia, the United States is aiding and abetting what appears to > be war crimes in Yemen. The Administration must stop enabling this > madness now.” > > *Call Sen. Dick Durbin, now at (202) 224-2152 > .* When you reach a staffer or leave a > message, you can say something like: > > "The US should stop enabling Saudi Arabia's bombing of children in > Yemen. I urge you to oppose the proposed Saudi arms deal." > > When you've made your call, *please report it here > .* > > And if you haven't yet signed our petition urging Congress to block > the deal *you can do that here > .* > > Thanks for all you do to help make U.S. foreign policy more just, > > Robert Naiman, Avram Reisman, and Sarah Burns > Just Foreign Policy > > *Help support our work!* > If you think our work is important, support us with a $15 donation. > http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/donate > > > Please support our work. Donate for a Just Foreign Policy > > > © 2016 Just Foreign Policy > > > Web Bug from http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/TrackImage?key=3649491838 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Thu Aug 18 03:28:02 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:28:02 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Clinton campaign smears Stein Message-ID: <85B6AD8A-39FC-4E73-B9DE-1256F26F2411@newsfromneptune.com> [From Jill Stein for President Social Media Team: Please share widely. There is a smear campaign going on against Jill Stein by Clinton-Democrats. Below is an example of how it is done from Robert Naiman who claims to be a peace activist but is supporting the war hawk, Hillary Clinton, and smearing the only real peace candidate, Jill Stein. Here is the email he is sending out to people urging them to slander Jill with statements he knows are false. As I said -- please share this widely so Naiman and the Clinton campaign are exposed.] From: Robert Naiman If you have a lot of Facebook friends, you may have recently noticed a high level of activity on your Facebook feed by Jill Stein acolytes. If so, you may find the following links useful to throw them off their game. No warranty, express or implied. You don't have to prove that Jill Stein is an anti-science conspiracy theorist. You just have to say, "There are unanswered questions about whether Jill Stein is an anti-science conspiracy theorist." There's Nothing Green About Jill Stein's Vaccine Stance http://www.forbes.com/…/theres-nothing-green-about-jill-s…/… Jill Stein on vaccines: People have ‘real questions’ https://www.washingtonpost.com/…/jill-stein-on-vaccines-pe…/ Jill Stein Promotes Homeopathy, Panders On Vaccines http://www.patheos.com/…/jill-stein-promotes-homeopathy-pa…/ Jill Stein Worries Wi-Fi Is Dangerous For Kids http://www.patheos.com/…/jill-stein-worries-wi-fi-is-dange…/ === Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 18 13:42:54 2016 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Clinton campaign smears Stein References: <65504120.18973797.1471527774596.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <65504120.18973797.1471527774596.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I'm surprised and disappointed by this. Bob Naiman recently did a good interview with the Real News Network that was honestly critical of Clinton regarding foreign policy. DG -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 8/17/16, C. G. Estabrook wrote: Subject: Clinton campaign smears Stein To: "peace" , "Peace-discuss List" Cc: "Occupy CU" , "sf-core" Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016, 10:28 PM [From Jill Stein for President Social Media Team: Please share widely. There is a smear campaign going on against Jill Stein by Clinton-Democrats. Below is an example of how it is done from Robert Naiman who claims to be a peace activist but is supporting the war hawk, Hillary Clinton, and smearing the only real peace candidate, Jill Stein. Here is the email he is sending out to people urging them to slander Jill with statements he knows are false. As I said -- please share this widely so Naiman and the Clinton campaign are exposed.] From: Robert Naiman If you have a lot of Facebook friends, you may have recently noticed a high level of activity on your Facebook feed by Jill Stein acolytes. If so, you may find the following links useful to throw them off their game. No warranty, express or implied. You don't have to prove that Jill Stein is an anti-science conspiracy theorist. You just have to say, "There are unanswered questions about whether Jill Stein is an anti-science conspiracy theorist." There's Nothing Green About Jill Stein's Vaccine Stance http://www.forbes.com/…/theres-nothing-green-about-jill-s…/… Jill Stein on vaccines: People have ‘real questions’ https://www.washingtonpost.com/…/jill-stein-on-vaccines-pe…/ Jill Stein Promotes Homeopathy, Panders On Vaccines http://www.patheos.com/…/jill-stein-promotes-homeopathy-pa…/ Jill Stein Worries Wi-Fi Is Dangerous For Kids http://www.patheos.com/…/jill-stein-worries-wi-fi-is-dange…/ === Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org From carl at newsfromneptune.com Thu Aug 18 13:46:28 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:46:28 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Clinton campaign smears Stein In-Reply-To: <65504120.18973797.1471527774596.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <65504120.18973797.1471527774596.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <65504120.18973797.1471527774596.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6604AB0C-7957-49F8-B7C4-789C68AD5485@newsfromneptune.com> And 'Just Foreign Policy’ has published some worthwhile things, if showing perhaps undue affection for Democrats. —CGE > On Aug 18, 2016, at 8:42 AM, David Green wrote: > > I'm surprised and disappointed by this. Bob Naiman recently did a good interview with the Real News Network that was honestly critical of Clinton regarding foreign policy. > > DG > > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 8/17/16, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > > Subject: Clinton campaign smears Stein > To: "peace" , "Peace-discuss List" > Cc: "Occupy CU" , "sf-core" > Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016, 10:28 PM > > [From Jill Stein for President Social > Media Team: Please share widely. There is a smear campaign > going on against Jill Stein by Clinton-Democrats. Below is > an example of how it is done from Robert Naiman who claims > to be a peace activist but is supporting the war hawk, > Hillary Clinton, and smearing the only real peace candidate, > Jill Stein. Here is the email he is sending out to people > urging them to slander Jill with statements he knows are > false. As I said -- please share this widely so Naiman and > the Clinton campaign are exposed.] > > From: Robert Naiman > > If you have a lot of Facebook friends, you may have recently > noticed a high level of activity on your Facebook feed by > Jill Stein acolytes. > > If so, you may find the following links useful to throw them > off their game. No warranty, express or implied. You don't > have to prove that Jill Stein is an anti-science conspiracy > theorist. You just have to say, "There are unanswered > questions about whether Jill Stein is an anti-science > conspiracy theorist." > > There's Nothing Green About Jill Stein's Vaccine Stance > http://www.forbes.com/…/theres-nothing-green-about-jill-s…/… > > Jill Stein on vaccines: People have ‘real questions’ > https://www.washingtonpost.com/…/jill-stein-on-vaccines-pe…/ > > Jill Stein Promotes Homeopathy, Panders On Vaccines http://www.patheos.com/…/jill-stein-promotes-homeopathy-pa…/ > > Jill Stein Worries Wi-Fi Is Dangerous For Kids > http://www.patheos.com/…/jill-stein-worries-wi-fi-is-dange…/ > > === > > Robert Naiman > Policy Director > Just Foreign Policy > www.justforeignpolicy.org > naiman at justforeignpolicy.org From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Aug 18 23:58:17 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 23:58:17 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Killer Koh & The Smell of Death at Illinois College of Law October 28 Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Francis Boyle via YouTube [mailto:noreply at youtube.com] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:57 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: Francis Boyle sent you a video: "Lynyrd Skynyrd - That Smell" [http://s.ytimg.com/yt/img/email/digest/email_header.png] [https://yt3.ggpht.com/-w4phvYGWivc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/_Vq2X19VNEk/s50-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg] Francis Boyle has shared a video with you on YouTube [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J4j7ggZqbiU/mqdefault.jpg] Lynyrd Skynyrd - That Smell by XMetallicaAXxx Whiskey bottles and brand new cars Oak tree, you're in my way There's too much coke and too much smoke Look what's going on inside you Ooh, that smell Can't you smell that smell? 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Aug 18 23:59:08 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 23:59:08 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: How many Citizenships did BiH grant in 16 Years? Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Feed: "Francis Boyle" - BingNews Posted on: Thursday, August 18, 2016 3:10 AM Author: "Francis Boyle" - BingNews Subject: How many Citizenships did BiH grant in 16 Years? Since the beginning of war in 1992 and until 2000, several persons were granted the honorary citizenship of BiH, some of them being professor of international law and author of the BiH accusation against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia Francis Boyle ... View article... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Fri Aug 19 00:33:33 2016 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 19:33:33 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [lbo-talk] Enough of Adolph Reed In-Reply-To: <002201d1f9ad$123de640$36b9b2c0$@ilstu.edu> References: <002201d1f9ad$123de640$36b9b2c0$@ilstu.edu> Message-ID: <3A6D8A0B-90BE-4E07-B4BD-64A9BEF73ADC@illinois.edu> This is eminent sense, a corrective to Reed’s appalling article. I don't know Reed - only met him once - but I don't understand how he can be so insightful regarding IP - and yet so obtuse about a neocon candidate who has only IP to cover her viciousness. —CGE > On Aug 18, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > > From a recent article by Reed, published by Common Dreams: > > " I assume readers get the allegorical point of that story. Just to drive it home, here’s another, more dramatic one that Harold Meyerson adduced last month in The American Prospect: in the early 1930s, as the National Socialists gained strength, Ernst Thällman, the Chairman of the German Communist Party held to the line that the Social Democrats were a greater threat to the working class and to the possibility of revolution than were the Nazis. The Communists’ conflict with the Social Democrats was both not without justification and mutual. Some Communists believed that the elements of the working class who were drawn to the Nazis, e.g., those in Ernst Röhm’s Brown Shirts, could be won from them. In 1931 some sought to collaborate with the Nazis to bring down the weak Social Democrat government. In expressing the conviction that the Social Democrats were the main danger in German politics, Thällman uttered the quip that has long outlived him as a cautionary device: “After Hitler, our turn.” His point was that a Nazi victory would expose them as fraudulent with no program for the working class. What Thällman didn’t count on was their success at criminalizing and liquidating all opposition. He died in a concentration camp." > > This tired tale has been endlessly repeated by various political cowards calling themselves "leftists." It is simply despicable. > > There is no doubt that Adolph Reed is both highly intelligent and well-intentioned -- which goes to demonstrate that there is no necessary or even probable connection between intelligence & intelligent arguments, and it also underlines the old saw re the pavement of the road to hell. > > I have often argued in the past that "Fascism" was a special product of the inter-war period in southern and eastern Europe. The endlessly repeated squawks about the Fascist threat have the utter stupidity of the following bit of logic: > > X is a mammal > > Therefore X is a rabbit. > > There are real threats to "bourgeois democracy" in the United States, but they don't come from either Trump or the likes of David Duke. > > They come from the Clintons, the Obamas, and the fools who support them. The great achievement of the Obama Administration is to legitimize and raise to standard policy the wars initiated by the Bush Administration. > > Clinton's Crime Bill was far more sinister than any of Trump's ravings. > > Carrol > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________ > http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Fri Aug 19 18:44:56 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:44:56 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: WORLD LABOR HOUR SATURDAY AUGUST 20TH Message-ID: <001301d1fa49$cde134a0$69a39de0$@comcast.net> WORLD LABOR HOUR SATURDAY AUG. 20th 11am -1pm U.S. Central Time 90.1 FM and webcast LIVE world-wide at www.weft.org Tune in this Saturday for a lively discussion about ; The upcoming anniversary of the national disgrace that was Hurricane Katrina, the Schnucks Grocery Store boycott, the upcoming Champaign County voter referendums for jail expansion and / or the building of more desperately needed public school space in Champaign, Obama's upcoming push to pass the widely unpopular TPP Trade agreement, Aetna insurance company withdrawal from the corporate friendly Obamacare program, and much more. We will open the phone lines at ; 217-FLY-LIVE for your questions and comments. Stay tuned after the World Labor Hour for " THE UNION EDGE " BROADCAST FROM Pittsburgh PA. with Host Charles Showalter. WEFT - Listener supported corporate free radio for East Central Illinois and the WORLD ! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Sat Aug 20 01:48:40 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 20:48:40 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Greens on CNN et al. Message-ID: <4E054242-33D6-4BB1-BE5B-4E6D54DF4AA8@newsfromneptune.com> http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/19/roaming-charges-prime-time-green/ "Despite Clinton’s apparent lead in the polls, there’s a palpable sense of desperation in the air, as if her support is so soft that Hillary could sink another 10 points in the wake of one more email dump from Wikileaks or Guccifer 2.0. This explains why her surrogates are reaching so deeply into their bag of dirty tricks. The red-baiting of Stein and Baraka is a perfect expression of the Clinton machine’s political and moral bankruptcy." —CGE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Sun Aug 21 14:11:53 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 09:11:53 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The ABCs of foreign policy: America, Brzezinski, and Chomsky Message-ID: I’ll propose that AWARE sponsor a reading group for this semester that concerns US world strategy - based on analyses by two men born in 1928, Zbigniew Brzezinski and Noam Chomsky. Brzezinski’s article below considers roughly the same issues as Chomsky’s recent brief book, “Who Rules the World?” (2016). Brzezinski’s book here summarized is "Strategic Vision: America and the Crisis of Global Power” (2013). They are perhaps the best recent examples of respectively the liberal and radical accounts of US foreign policy. The former seems apparently in full control of the US government for the foreseeable future. If there’s enough interest it a reading group, I'll schedule a weekly meeting for discussion, perhaps at my residence. —CGE =============================== From the Amazon reviews of the two books: "By 1991, following the disintegration first of the Soviet bloc and then of the Soviet Union itself, the United States was left standing tall as the only global super-power. The 21st century seemed destined to be yet another American century. But that optimism did not last long as the stock market bubble and the costly foreign unilateralism of the younger Bush presidency, as well as the financial catastrophe of 2008 jolted America – and much of the West – into a sudden recognition of its systemic vulnerability to unregulated greed. In Strategic Vision, esteemed author and former National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski argues that to quell mounting anxieties about the growing capacity for Eastern economic and technological innovation, America must define and pursue a long-term geopolitical vision. Only in this way will it become more strategically deliberate and historically enlightened in its global engagement with the new East. A tactical blueprint, Strategic Vision argues that without an America that is economically vital, socially appealing, responsibly powerful, and capable of sustaining an intelligent foreign engagement, the geopolitical prospects for the West could become increasingly grave." “...Chomsky argues that the United States, through its military-first policies and its unstinting devotion to maintaining a world-spanning empire, is both risking catastrophe and wrecking the global commons. Drawing on a wide range of examples, from the expanding drone assassination program to the threat of nuclear warfare, as well as the flashpoints of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Israel/Palestine … Chomsky provides a brilliant anatomy of just how U.S. elites have grown ever more insulated from any democratic constraints on their power. While the broader population is lulled into apathy―diverted to consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable―the corporations and the rich have increasingly been allowed to do as they please…” ================ The American Interest Volume 11, Number 6 April 17, 2016 Toward a Global Realignment: Strategic Vision Zbigniew Brzezinski {As its era of global dominance ends, the United States needs to take the lead in realigning the global power architecture.} Five basic verities regarding the emerging redistribution of global political power and the violent political awakening in the Middle East are signaling the coming of a new global realignment. The first of these verities is that the United States is still the world’s politically, economically, and militarily most powerful entity but, given complex geopolitical shifts in regional balances, it is no longer the globally imperial power. But neither is any other major power. The second verity is that Russia is experiencing the latest convulsive phase of its imperial devolution. A painful process, Russia is not fatally precluded – if it acts wisely – from becoming eventually a leading European nation-state. However, currently it is pointlessly alienating some of its former subjects in the Islamic southwest of its once extensive empire, as well as Ukraine, Belarus, and Georgia, not to mention the Baltic States. The third verity is that China is rising steadily, if more slowly as of late, as America’s eventual coequal and likely rival; but for the time being it is careful not to pose an outright challenge to America. Militarily, it seems to be seeking a breakthrough in a new generation of weapons while patiently enhancing its still very limited naval power. The fourth verity is that Europe is not now and is not likely to become a global power. But it can play a constructive role in taking the lead in regard to transnational threats to global wellbeing and even human survival. Additionally, Europe is politically and culturally aligned with and supportive of core U.S. interests in the Middle East, and European steadfastness within NATO is essential to an eventually constructive resolution of the Russia-Ukraine crisis. The fifth verity is that the currently violent political awakening among post-colonial Muslims is, in part, a belated reaction to their occasionally brutal suppression mostly by European powers. It fuses a delayed but deeply felt sense of injustice with a religious motivation that is unifying large numbers of Muslims against the outside world; but at the same time, because of historic sectarian schisms within Islam that have nothing to do with the West, the recent welling up of historical grievances is also divisive within Islam. Taken together as a unified framework, these five verities tell us that the United States must take the lead in realigning the global power architecture in such a way that the violence erupting within and occasionally projected beyond the Muslim world—and in the future possibly from other parts of what used to be called the Third World—can be contained without destroying the global order. We can sketch this new architecture by elaborating briefly each of the five foregoing verities. First, America can only be effective in dealing with the current Middle Eastern violence if it forges a coalition that involves, in varying degrees, also Russia and China. To enable such a coalition to take shape, Russia must first be discouraged from its reliance on the unilateral use of force against its own neighbors—notably Ukraine, Georgia, the Baltic States—and China should be disabused of the idea that selfish passivity in the face of the rising regional crisis in the Middle East will prove to be politically and economically rewarding to its ambitions in the global arena. These shortsighted policy impulses need to be channeled into a more farsighted vision. Second, Russia is becoming for the first time in its history a truly national state, a development that is as momentous as it is generally overlooked. The Czarist Empire, with its multinational but largely politically passive population, came to an end with World War I and the Bolshevik creation of an allegedly voluntary union of national republics (the USSR), with power resting effectively in Russian hands, took its place. The collapse of the Soviet Union at the end of 1991 led to the sudden emergence of a predominantly Russian state as its successor, and to the transformation of the former Soviet Union’s non-Russian “republics” into formally independent states. These states are now consolidating their independence, and both the West and China—in different areas and different ways—are exploiting that new reality to Russia’s disadvantage. In the meantime, Russia’s own future depends on its ability to become a major and influential nation-state that is part of a unifying Europe. Not to do so could have dramatically negative consequences for Russia’s ability to withstand growing territorial-demographic pressure from China, which is increasingly inclined as its power grows to recall the “unequal” treaties Moscow imposed on Beijing in times past. Third, China’s dramatic economic success requires enduring patience and the country’s awareness that political haste will make for social waste. The best political prospect for China in the near future is to become America’s principal partner in containing global chaos of the sort that is spreading outward (including to the northeast) from the Middle East. If it is not contained, it will contaminate Russia’s southern and eastern territories as well as the western portions of China. Closer relations between China and the new republics in Central Asia, the post-British Muslim states in Southwest Asia (notably Pakistan) and especially with Iran (given its strategic assets and economic significance), are the natural targets of Chinese regional geopolitical outreach. But they should also be targets of global Sino-American accommodation. Fourth, tolerable stability will not return to the Middle East as long as local armed military formations can calculate that they can be simultaneously the beneficiaries of a territorial realignment while selectively abetting extreme violence. Their ability to act in a savage manner can only be contained by increasingly effective—but also selective—pressure derived from a base of U.S.-Russian-Chinese cooperation that, in turn, enhances the prospects for the responsible use of force by the region’s more established states (namely, Iran, Turkey, Israel, and Egypt). The latter should also be the recipients of more selective European support. Under normal circumstances, Saudi Arabia would be a significant player on that list, but the current inclination of the Saudi government still to foster Wahhabi fanaticism, even while engaged in ambitious domestic modernization efforts, raises grave doubts regarding Saudi Arabia’s ability to play a regionally significant constructive role. Fifth, special attention should be focused on the non-Western world’s newly politically aroused masses. Long-repressed political memories are fueling in large part the sudden and very explosive awakening energized by Islamic extremists in the Middle East, but what is happening in the Middle East today may be just the beginning of a wider phenomenon to come out of Africa, Asia, and even among the pre-colonial peoples of the Western Hemisphere in the years ahead. Periodic massacres of their not-so-distant ancestors by colonists and associated wealth-seekers largely from western Europe (countries that today are, still tentatively at least, most open to multiethnic cohabitation) resulted within the past two or so centuries in the slaughter of colonized peoples on a scale comparable to Nazi World War II crimes: literally involving hundreds of thousands and even millions of victims. Political self-assertion enhanced by delayed outrage and grief is a powerful force that is now surfacing, thirsting for revenge, not just in the Muslim Middle East but also very likely beyond. Much of the data cannot be precisely established, but taken collectively, they are shocking. Let just a few examples suffice. In the 16th century, due largely to disease brought by Spanish explorers, the population of the native Aztec Empire in present-day Mexico declined from 25 million to approximately one million. Similarly, in North America, an estimated 90 percent of the native population died within the first five years of contact with European settlers, due primarily to diseases. In the 19th century, various wars and forced resettlements killed an additional 100,000. In India from 1857-1867, the British are suspected of killing up to one million civilians in reprisals stemming from the Indian Rebellion of 1857. The British East India Company’s use of Indian agriculture to grow opium then essentially forced on China resulted in the premature deaths of millions, not including the directly inflicted Chinese casualties of the First and Second Opium Wars. In the Congo, which was the personal holding of Belgian King Leopold II, 10-15 million people were killed between 1890 and 1910. In Vietnam, recent estimates suggest that between one and three million civilians were killed from 1955 to 1975. As to the Muslim world in Russia’s Caucasus, from 1864 and 1867, 90 percent of the local Circassian population was forcibly relocated and between 300,000 and 1.5 million either starved to death or were killed. Between 1916 and 1918, tens of thousands of Muslims were killed when 300,000 Turkic Muslims were forced by Russian authorities through the mountains of Central Asia and into China. In Indonesia, between 1835 and 1840, the Dutch occupiers killed an estimated 300,000 civilians. In Algeria, following a 15-year civil war from 1830-1845, French brutality, famine, and disease killed 1.5 million Algerians, nearly half the population. In neighboring Libya, the Italians forced Cyrenaicans into concentration camps, where an estimated 80,000 to 500,000 died between 1927 and 1934. More recently, in Afghanistan between 1979 and 1989 the Soviet Union is estimated to have killed around one million civilians; two decades later, the United States has killed 26,000 civilians during its 15-year war in Afghanistan. In Iraq, 165,000 civilians have been killed by the United States and its allies in the past 13 years. (The disparity between the reported number of deaths inflicted by European colonizers compared with the United States and its allies in Iraq and Afghanistan may be due in part to the technological advances that have resulted in the more productive use of force and in part as well to a shift in the world’s normative climate.) Just as shocking as the scale of these atrocities is how quickly the West forgot about them. In today’s postcolonial world, a new historical narrative is emerging. A profound resentment against the West and its colonial legacy in Muslim countries and beyond is being used to justify their sense of deprivation and denial of self-dignity. A stark example of the experience and attitudes of colonial peoples is well summarized by the Senegalese poet David Diop in “Vultures”: In those days, When civilization kicked us in the face The vultures built in the shadow of their talons The blood stained monument of tutelage… Given all this, a long and painful road toward an initially limited regional accommodation is the only viable option for the United States, Russia, China, and the pertinent Middle Eastern entities. For the United States, that will require patient persistence in forging cooperative relationships with some new partners (particularly Russia and China) as well as joint efforts with more established and historically rooted Muslim states (Turkey, Iran, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia if it can detach its foreign policy from Wahhabi extremism) in shaping a wider framework of regional stability. Our European allies, previously dominant in the region, can still be helpful in that regard. A comprehensive U.S. pullout from the Muslim world favored by domestic isolationists, could give rise to new wars (for example, Israel vs. Iran, Saudi Arabia vs. Iran, a major Egyptian intervention in Libya) and would generate an even deeper crisis of confidence in America’s globally stabilizing role. In different but dramatically unpredictable ways, Russia and China could be the geopolitical beneficiaries of such a development even as global order itself becomes the more immediate geopolitical casualty. Last but not least, in such circumstances a divided and fearful Europe would see its current member states searching for patrons and competing with one another in alternative but separate arrangements among the more powerful trio. A constructive U.S. policy must be patiently guided by a long-range vision. It must seek outcomes that promote the gradual realization in Russia (probably post-Putin) that its only place as an influential world power is ultimately within Europe. China’s increasing role in the Middle East should reflect the reciprocal American and Chinese realization that a growing U.S.-PRC partnership in coping with the Middle Eastern crisis is an historically significant test of their ability to shape and enhance together wider global stability. The alternative to a constructive vision, and especially the quest for a one-sided militarily and ideologically imposed outcome, can only result in prolonged and self-destructive futility. For America, that could entail enduring conflict, fatigue, and conceivably even a demoralizing withdrawal to its pre-20th century isolationism. For Russia, it could mean major defeat, increasing the likelihood of subordination in some fashion to Chinese predominance. For China, it could portend war not only with the United States but also, perhaps separately, with either Japan or India or with both. And, in any case, a prolonged phase of sustained ethnic, quasi-religious wars pursued through the Middle East with self-righteous fanaticism would generate escalating bloodshed within and outside the region, and growing cruelty everywhere. The fact is that there has never been a truly “dominant” global power until the emergence of America on the world scene. Imperial Great Britain came close to becoming one, but World War I and later World War II not only bankrupted it but also prompted the emergence of rival regional powers. The decisive new global reality was the appearance on the world scene of America as simultaneously the richest and militarily the most powerful player. During the latter part of the 20th century no other power even came close. That era is now ending. While no state is likely in the near future to match America’s economic-financial superiority, new weapons systems could suddenly endow some countries with the means to commit suicide in a joint tit-for-tat embrace with the United States, or even to prevail. Without going into speculative detail, the sudden acquisition by some state of the capacity to render America militarily inferior would spell the end of America’s global role. The result would most probably be global chaos. And that is why it behooves the United States to fashion a policy in which at least one of the two potentially threatening states becomes a partner in the quest for regional and then wider global stability, and thus in containing the least predictable but potentially the most likely rival to overreach. Currently, the more likely to overreach is Russia, but in the longer run it could be China. Since the next twenty years may well be the last phase of the more traditional and familiar political alignments with which we have grown comfortable, the response needs to be shaped now. During the rest of this century, humanity will also have to be increasingly preoccupied with survival as such on account of a confluence of environmental challenges. Those challenges can only be addressed responsibly and effectively in a setting of increased international accommodation. And that accommodation has to be based on a strategic vision that recognizes the urgent need for a new geopolitical framework. *The author acknowledges the helpful contribution of his research assistant Paul Wasserman, and the scholarship on the subject of colonial brutality by Adam Hochschild, Richard Pierce, William Polk, and the Watson Institute at Brown University, among others. {Zbigniew Brzezinski is a counselor at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and was the National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter from 1977-81. He is the author, most recently, of Strategic Vision: America and the Crisis of Global Power.} ### From mkb3 at icloud.com Mon Aug 22 02:46:14 2016 From: mkb3 at icloud.com (Morton K. Brussel) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 21:46:14 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [sf-core] The ABCs of foreign policy: America, Brzezinski, and Chomsky In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9DBA9C7A-E838-444F-BA00-E4EF032BC8E5@icloud.com> To show/emphasize the willful blindness (or intention to deceive) to what in essence has driven U.S. foreign policy in the recent (and not so recent) past by Brzezinski could be useful, perhaps entertaining. Are we supposed to buy B’s book? Go for it! —mkb > On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:11 AM, 'C. G. Estabrook' carl at newsfromneptune.com [sf-core] > wrote: > > I’ll propose that AWARE sponsor a reading group for this semester that concerns US world strategy - based on analyses by two men born in 1928, Zbigniew Brzezinski and Noam Chomsky. > > Brzezinski’s article below considers roughly the same issues as Chomsky’s recent brief book, “Who Rules the World?” (2016). Brzezinski’s book here summarized is "Strategic Vision: America and the Crisis of Global Power” (2013). They are perhaps the best recent examples of respectively the liberal and radical accounts of US foreign policy. The former seems apparently in full control of the US government for the foreseeable future. > > If there’s enough interest it a reading group, I'll schedule a weekly meeting for discussion, perhaps at my residence. —CGE > > =============================== > From the Amazon reviews of the two books: > > "By 1991, following the disintegration first of the Soviet bloc and then of the Soviet Union itself, the United States was left standing tall as the only global super-power. The 21st century seemed destined to be yet another American century. But that optimism did not last long as the stock market bubble and the costly foreign unilateralism of the younger Bush presidency, as well as the financial catastrophe of 2008 jolted America – and much of the West – into a sudden recognition of its systemic vulnerability to unregulated greed. In Strategic Vision, esteemed author and former National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski argues that to quell mounting anxieties about the growing capacity for Eastern economic and technological innovation, America must define and pursue a long-term geopolitical vision. Only in this way will it become more strategically deliberate and historically enlightened in its global engagement with the new East. A tactical blueprint, Strategic Vision argues that without an America that is economically vital, socially appealing, responsibly powerful, and capable of sustaining an intelligent foreign engagement, the geopolitical prospects for the West could become increasingly grave." > > “...Chomsky argues that the United States, through its military-first policies and its unstinting devotion to maintaining a world-spanning empire, is both risking catastrophe and wrecking the global commons. Drawing on a wide range of examples, from the expanding drone assassination program to the threat of nuclear warfare, as well as the flashpoints of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Israel/Palestine … Chomsky provides a brilliant anatomy of just how U.S. elites have grown ever more insulated from any democratic constraints on their power. While the broader population is lulled into apathy―diverted to consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable―the corporations and the rich have increasingly been allowed to do as they please…” > > ================ > The American Interest > Volume 11, Number 6 > April 17, 2016 > > Toward a Global Realignment: Strategic Vision > Zbigniew Brzezinski > {As its era of global dominance ends, the United States needs to take the lead in realigning the global power architecture.} > > Five basic verities regarding the emerging redistribution of global political power and the violent political awakening in the Middle East are signaling the coming of a new global realignment. > > The first of these verities is that the United States is still the world’s politically, economically, and militarily most powerful entity but, given complex geopolitical shifts in regional balances, it is no longer the globally imperial power. But neither is any other major power. > > The second verity is that Russia is experiencing the latest convulsive phase of its imperial devolution. A painful process, Russia is not fatally precluded – if it acts wisely – from becoming eventually a leading European nation-state. However, currently it is pointlessly alienating some of its former subjects in the Islamic southwest of its once extensive empire, as well as Ukraine, Belarus, and Georgia, not to mention the Baltic States. > > The third verity is that China is rising steadily, if more slowly as of late, as America’s eventual coequal and likely rival; but for the time being it is careful not to pose an outright challenge to America. Militarily, it seems to be seeking a breakthrough in a new generation of weapons while patiently enhancing its still very limited naval power. > > The fourth verity is that Europe is not now and is not likely to become a global power. But it can play a constructive role in taking the lead in regard to transnational threats to global wellbeing and even human survival. Additionally, Europe is politically and culturally aligned with and supportive of core U.S. interests in the Middle East, and European steadfastness within NATO is essential to an eventually constructive resolution of the Russia-Ukraine crisis. > > The fifth verity is that the currently violent political awakening among post-colonial Muslims is, in part, a belated reaction to their occasionally brutal suppression mostly by European powers. It fuses a delayed but deeply felt sense of injustice with a religious motivation that is unifying large numbers of Muslims against the outside world; but at the same time, because of historic sectarian schisms within Islam that have nothing to do with the West, the recent welling up of historical grievances is also divisive within Islam. > > Taken together as a unified framework, these five verities tell us that the United States must take the lead in realigning the global power architecture in such a way that the violence erupting within and occasionally projected beyond the Muslim world—and in the future possibly from other parts of what used to be called the Third World—can be contained without destroying the global order. We can sketch this new architecture by elaborating briefly each of the five foregoing verities. > > First, America can only be effective in dealing with the current Middle Eastern violence if it forges a coalition that involves, in varying degrees, also Russia and China. To enable such a coalition to take shape, Russia must first be discouraged from its reliance on the unilateral use of force against its own neighbors—notably Ukraine, Georgia, the Baltic States—and China should be disabused of the idea that selfish passivity in the face of the rising regional crisis in the Middle East will prove to be politically and economically rewarding to its ambitions in the global arena. These shortsighted policy impulses need to be channeled into a more farsighted vision. > > Second, Russia is becoming for the first time in its history a truly national state, a development that is as momentous as it is generally overlooked. The Czarist Empire, with its multinational but largely politically passive population, came to an end with World War I and the Bolshevik creation of an allegedly voluntary union of national republics (the USSR), with power resting effectively in Russian hands, took its place. The collapse of the Soviet Union at the end of 1991 led to the sudden emergence of a predominantly Russian state as its successor, and to the transformation of the former Soviet Union’s non-Russian “republics” into formally independent states. These states are now consolidating their independence, and both the West and China—in different areas and different ways—are exploiting that new reality to Russia’s disadvantage. In the meantime, Russia’s own future depends on its ability to become a major and influential nation-state that is part of a unifying Europe. Not to do so could have dramatically negative consequences for Russia’s ability to withstand growing territorial-demographic pressure from China, which is increasingly inclined as its power grows to recall the “unequal” treaties Moscow imposed on Beijing in times past. > > Third, China’s dramatic economic success requires enduring patience and the country’s awareness that political haste will make for social waste. The best political prospect for China in the near future is to become America’s principal partner in containing global chaos of the sort that is spreading outward (including to the northeast) from the Middle East. If it is not contained, it will contaminate Russia’s southern and eastern territories as well as the western portions of China. Closer relations between China and the new republics in Central Asia, the post-British Muslim states in Southwest Asia (notably Pakistan) and especially with Iran (given its strategic assets and economic significance), are the natural targets of Chinese regional geopolitical outreach. But they should also be targets of global Sino-American accommodation. > > Fourth, tolerable stability will not return to the Middle East as long as local armed military formations can calculate that they can be simultaneously the beneficiaries of a territorial realignment while selectively abetting extreme violence. Their ability to act in a savage manner can only be contained by increasingly effective—but also selective—pressure derived from a base of U.S.-Russian-Chinese cooperation that, in turn, enhances the prospects for the responsible use of force by the region’s more established states (namely, Iran, Turkey, Israel, and Egypt). The latter should also be the recipients of more selective European support. Under normal circumstances, Saudi Arabia would be a significant player on that list, but the current inclination of the Saudi government still to foster Wahhabi fanaticism, even while engaged in ambitious domestic modernization efforts, raises grave doubts regarding Saudi Arabia’s ability to play a regionally significant constructive role. > > Fifth, special attention should be focused on the non-Western world’s newly politically aroused masses. Long-repressed political memories are fueling in large part the sudden and very explosive awakening energized by Islamic extremists in the Middle East, but what is happening in the Middle East today may be just the beginning of a wider phenomenon to come out of Africa, Asia, and even among the pre-colonial peoples of the Western Hemisphere in the years ahead. > > Periodic massacres of their not-so-distant ancestors by colonists and associated wealth-seekers largely from western Europe (countries that today are, still tentatively at least, most open to multiethnic cohabitation) resulted within the past two or so centuries in the slaughter of colonized peoples on a scale comparable to Nazi World War II crimes: literally involving hundreds of thousands and even millions of victims. Political self-assertion enhanced by delayed outrage and grief is a powerful force that is now surfacing, thirsting for revenge, not just in the Muslim Middle East but also very likely beyond. > > Much of the data cannot be precisely established, but taken collectively, they are shocking. Let just a few examples suffice. In the 16th century, due largely to disease brought by Spanish explorers, the population of the native Aztec Empire in present-day Mexico declined from 25 million to approximately one million. Similarly, in North America, an estimated 90 percent of the native population died within the first five years of contact with European settlers, due primarily to diseases. In the 19th century, various wars and forced resettlements killed an additional 100,000. In India from 1857-1867, the British are suspected of killing up to one million civilians in reprisals stemming from the Indian Rebellion of 1857. The British East India Company’s use of Indian agriculture to grow opium then essentially forced on China resulted in the premature deaths of millions, not including the directly inflicted Chinese casualties of the First and Second Opium Wars. In the Congo, which was the personal holding of Belgian King Leopold II, 10-15 million people were killed between 1890 and 1910. In Vietnam, recent estimates suggest that between one and three million civilians were killed from 1955 to 1975. > > As to the Muslim world in Russia’s Caucasus, from 1864 and 1867, 90 percent of the local Circassian population was forcibly relocated and between 300,000 and 1.5 million either starved to death or were killed. Between 1916 and 1918, tens of thousands of Muslims were killed when 300,000 Turkic Muslims were forced by Russian authorities through the mountains of Central Asia and into China. In Indonesia, between 1835 and 1840, the Dutch occupiers killed an estimated 300,000 civilians. In Algeria, following a 15-year civil war from 1830-1845, French brutality, famine, and disease killed 1.5 million Algerians, nearly half the population. In neighboring Libya, the Italians forced Cyrenaicans into concentration camps, where an estimated 80,000 to 500,000 died between 1927 and 1934. > > More recently, in Afghanistan between 1979 and 1989 the Soviet Union is estimated to have killed around one million civilians; two decades later, the United States has killed 26,000 civilians during its 15-year war in Afghanistan. In Iraq, 165,000 civilians have been killed by the United States and its allies in the past 13 years. (The disparity between the reported number of deaths inflicted by European colonizers compared with the United States and its allies in Iraq and Afghanistan may be due in part to the technological advances that have resulted in the more productive use of force and in part as well to a shift in the world’s normative climate.) Just as shocking as the scale of these atrocities is how quickly the West forgot about them. > In today’s postcolonial world, a new historical narrative is emerging. A profound resentment against the West and its colonial legacy in Muslim countries and beyond is being used to justify their sense of deprivation and denial of self-dignity. A stark example of the experience and attitudes of colonial peoples is well summarized by the Senegalese poet David Diop in “Vultures”: > > In those days, > When civilization kicked us in the face > The vultures built in the shadow of their talons > The blood stained monument of tutelage… > > Given all this, a long and painful road toward an initially limited regional accommodation is the only viable option for the United States, Russia, China, and the pertinent Middle Eastern entities. For the United States, that will require patient persistence in forging cooperative relationships with some new partners (particularly Russia and China) as well as joint efforts with more established and historically rooted Muslim states (Turkey, Iran, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia if it can detach its foreign policy from Wahhabi extremism) in shaping a wider framework of regional stability. Our European allies, previously dominant in the region, can still be helpful in that regard. > > A comprehensive U.S. pullout from the Muslim world favored by domestic isolationists, could give rise to new wars (for example, Israel vs. Iran, Saudi Arabia vs. Iran, a major Egyptian intervention in Libya) and would generate an even deeper crisis of confidence in America’s globally stabilizing role. In different but dramatically unpredictable ways, Russia and China could be the geopolitical beneficiaries of such a development even as global order itself becomes the more immediate geopolitical casualty. Last but not least, in such circumstances a divided and fearful Europe would see its current member states searching for patrons and competing with one another in alternative but separate arrangements among the more powerful trio. > A constructive U.S. policy must be patiently guided by a long-range vision. It must seek outcomes that promote the gradual realization in Russia (probably post-Putin) that its only place as an influential world power is ultimately within Europe. China’s increasing role in the Middle East should reflect the reciprocal American and Chinese realization that a growing U.S.-PRC partnership in coping with the Middle Eastern crisis is an historically significant test of their ability to shape and enhance together wider global stability. > The alternative to a constructive vision, and especially the quest for a one-sided militarily and ideologically imposed outcome, can only result in prolonged and self-destructive futility. For America, that could entail enduring conflict, fatigue, and conceivably even a demoralizing withdrawal to its pre-20th century isolationism. For Russia, it could mean major defeat, increasing the likelihood of subordination in some fashion to Chinese predominance. For China, it could portend war not only with the United States but also, perhaps separately, with either Japan or India or with both. And, in any case, a prolonged phase of sustained ethnic, quasi-religious wars pursued through the Middle East with self-righteous fanaticism would generate escalating bloodshed within and outside the region, and growing cruelty everywhere. > > The fact is that there has never been a truly “dominant” global power until the emergence of America on the world scene. Imperial Great Britain came close to becoming one, but World War I and later World War II not only bankrupted it but also prompted the emergence of rival regional powers. The decisive new global reality was the appearance on the world scene of America as simultaneously the richest and militarily the most powerful player. During the latter part of the 20th century no other power even came close. > > That era is now ending. While no state is likely in the near future to match America’s economic-financial superiority, new weapons systems could suddenly endow some countries with the means to commit suicide in a joint tit-for-tat embrace with the United States, or even to prevail. Without going into speculative detail, the sudden acquisition by some state of the capacity to render America militarily inferior would spell the end of America’s global role. The result would most probably be global chaos. And that is why it behooves the United States to fashion a policy in which at least one of the two potentially threatening states becomes a partner in the quest for regional and then wider global stability, and thus in containing the least predictable but potentially the most likely rival to overreach. Currently, the more likely to overreach is Russia, but in the longer run it could be China. > > Since the next twenty years may well be the last phase of the more traditional and familiar political alignments with which we have grown comfortable, the response needs to be shaped now. During the rest of this century, humanity will also have to be increasingly preoccupied with survival as such on account of a confluence of environmental challenges. Those challenges can only be addressed responsibly and effectively in a setting of increased international accommodation. And that accommodation has to be based on a strategic vision that recognizes the urgent need for a new geopolitical framework. > > *The author acknowledges the helpful contribution of his research assistant Paul Wasserman, and the scholarship on the subject of colonial brutality by Adam Hochschild, Richard Pierce, William Polk, and the Watson Institute at Brown University, among others. > > {Zbigniew Brzezinski is a counselor at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and was the National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter from 1977-81. He is the author, most recently, of Strategic Vision: America and the Crisis of Global Power.} > > ### > > __._,_.___ > Posted by: "C. G. Estabrook" > > Reply via web post • Reply to sender  • Reply to group  • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1) > Have you tried the highest rated email app? > With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? 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Brussel via Peace-discuss wrote: > > To show/emphasize the willful blindness (or intention to deceive) to what in essence has driven U.S. foreign policy in the recent (and not so recent) past by Brzezinski could be useful, perhaps entertaining. Are we supposed to buy B’s book? > Go for it! > > —mkb > >> On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:11 AM, 'C. G. Estabrook' carl at newsfromneptune.com [sf-core] > wrote: >> >> I’ll propose that AWARE sponsor a reading group for this semester that concerns US world strategy - based on analyses by two men born in 1928, Zbigniew Brzezinski and Noam Chomsky. >> >> Brzezinski’s article below considers roughly the same issues as Chomsky’s recent brief book, “Who Rules the World?” (2016). Brzezinski’s book here summarized is "Strategic Vision: America and the Crisis of Global Power” (2013). They are perhaps the best recent examples of respectively the liberal and radical accounts of US foreign policy. The former seems apparently in full control of the US government for the foreseeable future. >> >> If there’s enough interest it a reading group, I'll schedule a weekly meeting for discussion, perhaps at my residence. —CGE >> >> =============================== >> From the Amazon reviews of the two books: >> >> "By 1991, following the disintegration first of the Soviet bloc and then of the Soviet Union itself, the United States was left standing tall as the only global super-power. The 21st century seemed destined to be yet another American century. But that optimism did not last long as the stock market bubble and the costly foreign unilateralism of the younger Bush presidency, as well as the financial catastrophe of 2008 jolted America – and much of the West – into a sudden recognition of its systemic vulnerability to unregulated greed. In Strategic Vision, esteemed author and former National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski argues that to quell mounting anxieties about the growing capacity for Eastern economic and technological innovation, America must define and pursue a long-term geopolitical vision. Only in this way will it become more strategically deliberate and historically enlightened in its global engagement with the new East. A tactical blueprint, Strategic Vision argues that without an America that is economically vital, socially appealing, responsibly powerful, and capable of sustaining an intelligent foreign engagement, the geopolitical prospects for the West could become increasingly grave." >> >> “...Chomsky argues that the United States, through its military-first policies and its unstinting devotion to maintaining a world-spanning empire, is both risking catastrophe and wrecking the global commons. Drawing on a wide range of examples, from the expanding drone assassination program to the threat of nuclear warfare, as well as the flashpoints of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Israel/Palestine … Chomsky provides a brilliant anatomy of just how U.S. elites have grown ever more insulated from any democratic constraints on their power. While the broader population is lulled into apathy―diverted to consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable―the corporations and the rich have increasingly been allowed to do as they please…” >> >> ================ >> The American Interest >> Volume 11, Number 6 >> April 17, 2016 >> >> Toward a Global Realignment: Strategic Vision >> Zbigniew Brzezinski >> {As its era of global dominance ends, the United States needs to take the lead in realigning the global power architecture.} >> >> Five basic verities regarding the emerging redistribution of global political power and the violent political awakening in the Middle East are signaling the coming of a new global realignment. >> >> The first of these verities is that the United States is still the world’s politically, economically, and militarily most powerful entity but, given complex geopolitical shifts in regional balances, it is no longer the globally imperial power. But neither is any other major power. >> >> The second verity is that Russia is experiencing the latest convulsive phase of its imperial devolution. A painful process, Russia is not fatally precluded – if it acts wisely – from becoming eventually a leading European nation-state. However, currently it is pointlessly alienating some of its former subjects in the Islamic southwest of its once extensive empire, as well as Ukraine, Belarus, and Georgia, not to mention the Baltic States. >> >> The third verity is that China is rising steadily, if more slowly as of late, as America’s eventual coequal and likely rival; but for the time being it is careful not to pose an outright challenge to America. Militarily, it seems to be seeking a breakthrough in a new generation of weapons while patiently enhancing its still very limited naval power. >> >> The fourth verity is that Europe is not now and is not likely to become a global power. But it can play a constructive role in taking the lead in regard to transnational threats to global wellbeing and even human survival. Additionally, Europe is politically and culturally aligned with and supportive of core U.S. interests in the Middle East, and European steadfastness within NATO is essential to an eventually constructive resolution of the Russia-Ukraine crisis. >> >> The fifth verity is that the currently violent political awakening among post-colonial Muslims is, in part, a belated reaction to their occasionally brutal suppression mostly by European powers. It fuses a delayed but deeply felt sense of injustice with a religious motivation that is unifying large numbers of Muslims against the outside world; but at the same time, because of historic sectarian schisms within Islam that have nothing to do with the West, the recent welling up of historical grievances is also divisive within Islam. >> >> Taken together as a unified framework, these five verities tell us that the United States must take the lead in realigning the global power architecture in such a way that the violence erupting within and occasionally projected beyond the Muslim world—and in the future possibly from other parts of what used to be called the Third World—can be contained without destroying the global order. We can sketch this new architecture by elaborating briefly each of the five foregoing verities. >> >> First, America can only be effective in dealing with the current Middle Eastern violence if it forges a coalition that involves, in varying degrees, also Russia and China. To enable such a coalition to take shape, Russia must first be discouraged from its reliance on the unilateral use of force against its own neighbors—notably Ukraine, Georgia, the Baltic States—and China should be disabused of the idea that selfish passivity in the face of the rising regional crisis in the Middle East will prove to be politically and economically rewarding to its ambitions in the global arena. These shortsighted policy impulses need to be channeled into a more farsighted vision. >> >> Second, Russia is becoming for the first time in its history a truly national state, a development that is as momentous as it is generally overlooked. The Czarist Empire, with its multinational but largely politically passive population, came to an end with World War I and the Bolshevik creation of an allegedly voluntary union of national republics (the USSR), with power resting effectively in Russian hands, took its place. The collapse of the Soviet Union at the end of 1991 led to the sudden emergence of a predominantly Russian state as its successor, and to the transformation of the former Soviet Union’s non-Russian “republics” into formally independent states. These states are now consolidating their independence, and both the West and China—in different areas and different ways—are exploiting that new reality to Russia’s disadvantage. In the meantime, Russia’s own future depends on its ability to become a major and influential nation-state that is part of a unifying Europe. Not to do so could have dramatically negative consequences for Russia’s ability to withstand growing territorial-demographic pressure from China, which is increasingly inclined as its power grows to recall the “unequal” treaties Moscow imposed on Beijing in times past. >> >> Third, China’s dramatic economic success requires enduring patience and the country’s awareness that political haste will make for social waste. The best political prospect for China in the near future is to become America’s principal partner in containing global chaos of the sort that is spreading outward (including to the northeast) from the Middle East. If it is not contained, it will contaminate Russia’s southern and eastern territories as well as the western portions of China. Closer relations between China and the new republics in Central Asia, the post-British Muslim states in Southwest Asia (notably Pakistan) and especially with Iran (given its strategic assets and economic significance), are the natural targets of Chinese regional geopolitical outreach. But they should also be targets of global Sino-American accommodation. >> >> Fourth, tolerable stability will not return to the Middle East as long as local armed military formations can calculate that they can be simultaneously the beneficiaries of a territorial realignment while selectively abetting extreme violence. Their ability to act in a savage manner can only be contained by increasingly effective—but also selective—pressure derived from a base of U.S.-Russian-Chinese cooperation that, in turn, enhances the prospects for the responsible use of force by the region’s more established states (namely, Iran, Turkey, Israel, and Egypt). The latter should also be the recipients of more selective European support. Under normal circumstances, Saudi Arabia would be a significant player on that list, but the current inclination of the Saudi government still to foster Wahhabi fanaticism, even while engaged in ambitious domestic modernization efforts, raises grave doubts regarding Saudi Arabia’s ability to play a regionally significant constructive role. >> >> Fifth, special attention should be focused on the non-Western world’s newly politically aroused masses. Long-repressed political memories are fueling in large part the sudden and very explosive awakening energized by Islamic extremists in the Middle East, but what is happening in the Middle East today may be just the beginning of a wider phenomenon to come out of Africa, Asia, and even among the pre-colonial peoples of the Western Hemisphere in the years ahead. >> >> Periodic massacres of their not-so-distant ancestors by colonists and associated wealth-seekers largely from western Europe (countries that today are, still tentatively at least, most open to multiethnic cohabitation) resulted within the past two or so centuries in the slaughter of colonized peoples on a scale comparable to Nazi World War II crimes: literally involving hundreds of thousands and even millions of victims. Political self-assertion enhanced by delayed outrage and grief is a powerful force that is now surfacing, thirsting for revenge, not just in the Muslim Middle East but also very likely beyond. >> >> Much of the data cannot be precisely established, but taken collectively, they are shocking. Let just a few examples suffice. In the 16th century, due largely to disease brought by Spanish explorers, the population of the native Aztec Empire in present-day Mexico declined from 25 million to approximately one million. Similarly, in North America, an estimated 90 percent of the native population died within the first five years of contact with European settlers, due primarily to diseases. In the 19th century, various wars and forced resettlements killed an additional 100,000. In India from 1857-1867, the British are suspected of killing up to one million civilians in reprisals stemming from the Indian Rebellion of 1857. The British East India Company’s use of Indian agriculture to grow opium then essentially forced on China resulted in the premature deaths of millions, not including the directly inflicted Chinese casualties of the First and Second Opium Wars. In the Congo, which was the personal holding of Belgian King Leopold II, 10-15 million people were killed between 1890 and 1910. In Vietnam, recent estimates suggest that between one and three million civilians were killed from 1955 to 1975. >> >> As to the Muslim world in Russia’s Caucasus, from 1864 and 1867, 90 percent of the local Circassian population was forcibly relocated and between 300,000 and 1.5 million either starved to death or were killed. Between 1916 and 1918, tens of thousands of Muslims were killed when 300,000 Turkic Muslims were forced by Russian authorities through the mountains of Central Asia and into China. In Indonesia, between 1835 and 1840, the Dutch occupiers killed an estimated 300,000 civilians. In Algeria, following a 15-year civil war from 1830-1845, French brutality, famine, and disease killed 1.5 million Algerians, nearly half the population. In neighboring Libya, the Italians forced Cyrenaicans into concentration camps, where an estimated 80,000 to 500,000 died between 1927 and 1934. >> >> More recently, in Afghanistan between 1979 and 1989 the Soviet Union is estimated to have killed around one million civilians; two decades later, the United States has killed 26,000 civilians during its 15-year war in Afghanistan. In Iraq, 165,000 civilians have been killed by the United States and its allies in the past 13 years. (The disparity between the reported number of deaths inflicted by European colonizers compared with the United States and its allies in Iraq and Afghanistan may be due in part to the technological advances that have resulted in the more productive use of force and in part as well to a shift in the world’s normative climate.) Just as shocking as the scale of these atrocities is how quickly the West forgot about them. >> In today’s postcolonial world, a new historical narrative is emerging. A profound resentment against the West and its colonial legacy in Muslim countries and beyond is being used to justify their sense of deprivation and denial of self-dignity. A stark example of the experience and attitudes of colonial peoples is well summarized by the Senegalese poet David Diop in “Vultures”: >> >> In those days, >> When civilization kicked us in the face >> The vultures built in the shadow of their talons >> The blood stained monument of tutelage… >> >> Given all this, a long and painful road toward an initially limited regional accommodation is the only viable option for the United States, Russia, China, and the pertinent Middle Eastern entities. For the United States, that will require patient persistence in forging cooperative relationships with some new partners (particularly Russia and China) as well as joint efforts with more established and historically rooted Muslim states (Turkey, Iran, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia if it can detach its foreign policy from Wahhabi extremism) in shaping a wider framework of regional stability. Our European allies, previously dominant in the region, can still be helpful in that regard. >> >> A comprehensive U.S. pullout from the Muslim world favored by domestic isolationists, could give rise to new wars (for example, Israel vs. Iran, Saudi Arabia vs. Iran, a major Egyptian intervention in Libya) and would generate an even deeper crisis of confidence in America’s globally stabilizing role. In different but dramatically unpredictable ways, Russia and China could be the geopolitical beneficiaries of such a development even as global order itself becomes the more immediate geopolitical casualty. Last but not least, in such circumstances a divided and fearful Europe would see its current member states searching for patrons and competing with one another in alternative but separate arrangements among the more powerful trio. >> A constructive U.S. policy must be patiently guided by a long-range vision. It must seek outcomes that promote the gradual realization in Russia (probably post-Putin) that its only place as an influential world power is ultimately within Europe. China’s increasing role in the Middle East should reflect the reciprocal American and Chinese realization that a growing U.S.-PRC partnership in coping with the Middle Eastern crisis is an historically significant test of their ability to shape and enhance together wider global stability. >> The alternative to a constructive vision, and especially the quest for a one-sided militarily and ideologically imposed outcome, can only result in prolonged and self-destructive futility. For America, that could entail enduring conflict, fatigue, and conceivably even a demoralizing withdrawal to its pre-20th century isolationism. For Russia, it could mean major defeat, increasing the likelihood of subordination in some fashion to Chinese predominance. For China, it could portend war not only with the United States but also, perhaps separately, with either Japan or India or with both. And, in any case, a prolonged phase of sustained ethnic, quasi-religious wars pursued through the Middle East with self-righteous fanaticism would generate escalating bloodshed within and outside the region, and growing cruelty everywhere. >> >> The fact is that there has never been a truly “dominant” global power until the emergence of America on the world scene. Imperial Great Britain came close to becoming one, but World War I and later World War II not only bankrupted it but also prompted the emergence of rival regional powers. The decisive new global reality was the appearance on the world scene of America as simultaneously the richest and militarily the most powerful player. During the latter part of the 20th century no other power even came close. >> >> That era is now ending. While no state is likely in the near future to match America’s economic-financial superiority, new weapons systems could suddenly endow some countries with the means to commit suicide in a joint tit-for-tat embrace with the United States, or even to prevail. Without going into speculative detail, the sudden acquisition by some state of the capacity to render America militarily inferior would spell the end of America’s global role. The result would most probably be global chaos. And that is why it behooves the United States to fashion a policy in which at least one of the two potentially threatening states becomes a partner in the quest for regional and then wider global stability, and thus in containing the least predictable but potentially the most likely rival to overreach. Currently, the more likely to overreach is Russia, but in the longer run it could be China. >> >> Since the next twenty years may well be the last phase of the more traditional and familiar political alignments with which we have grown comfortable, the response needs to be shaped now. During the rest of this century, humanity will also have to be increasingly preoccupied with survival as such on account of a confluence of environmental challenges. Those challenges can only be addressed responsibly and effectively in a setting of increased international accommodation. And that accommodation has to be based on a strategic vision that recognizes the urgent need for a new geopolitical framework. >> >> *The author acknowledges the helpful contribution of his research assistant Paul Wasserman, and the scholarship on the subject of colonial brutality by Adam Hochschild, Richard Pierce, William Polk, and the Watson Institute at Brown University, among others. >> >> {Zbigniew Brzezinski is a counselor at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and was the National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter from 1977-81. He is the author, most recently, of Strategic Vision: America and the Crisis of Global Power.} >> >> ### >> >> __._,_.___ >> Posted by: "C. G. Estabrook" > >> Reply via web post • Reply to sender  • Reply to group  • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1) >> Have you tried the highest rated email app? >> With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Mary Anne Grady Flores [mailto:gradyflores08 at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 9:27 AM To: to: humanrightsleadershipgroup--ithaca at googlegroups.com ; SAVE S-VE ; CUJustice ; CPNY General New York ; FLP Yahoo Yahoo ; FLP-google ; btd.community at gmail.com; CUSLAR ; Tompkins County Network for Peace and Justice ; discuss at puertoricotopalestine.org; hancockdefendants at googlegroups.com; cjp at lists.cny-pal.org; ithaca-catholic-worker at googlegroups.com; LCA-l at googlesgroup. ; National Catholic Worker List ; October 25 Affinity ; Christian Peacemaker Teams ; nodronesdiscussion at lists.riseup.net; UNAC Subject: TODAY: ANTIDRONE PROTESTOR ON TRIAL IN WISCONSIN - SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT ASSOCIATES NONVIOLENT DEMONSTRATORS WITH “HATE GROUPS” - PATTERN OF POLICE HARASSMENT ALLEGED FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE ANTIDRONE PROTESTOR ON TRIAL IN WISCONSIN SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT ASSOCIATES NONVIOLENT DEMONSTRATORS WITH “HATE GROUPS” PATTERN OF POLICE HARASSMENT ALLEGED FRIDAY, AUGUST 19, 1:00 pm Juneau County District Court 200 Oak Street Mauston, WI On Friday Brian Terrell will stand trial in Juneau County District Court for his part in a February 23 protest at Volk Field, a Wisconsin Air National Guard facility near Camp Douglas. The Wisconsin Coalition to Ground the Drones and End the Wars has, for more than four years, sponsored monthly protest vigils calling attention to the Volk Field facility that trains soldiers to use remotely controlled “Shadow Drones.” These drones have been instrumental in the targeted assassination program, labelled as a war crime by many legal experts. Many military experts say that drone warfare recruits more enemies for our country than it kills. Terrell of Maloy, Iowa, and Kathy Kelly of Chicago, both co-coordinators of Voices for Creative Nonviolence, were arrested by Juneau County Sheriff’s deputies on February 23, 2016, as they attempted to enter the base with a loaf of bread and a letter for the base commander. The commander has not answered several letters mailed to him by members of the Coalition in recent years, expressing their opposition to drone warfare. While Terrell will be tried for a noncriminal forfeiture violation of a county ordinance, “trespass to land” with a maximum penalty of $200, he and Kelly were originally arrested and charged with two more serious criminal offenses, “trespass to a dwelling” and “disorderly conduct.” Together, these two misdemeanors are punishable with up to 18 months in prison and $20,000 in fines. “Dwelling” is defined in the Wisconsin trespass statute as “a structure or that part of a structure intended to be used as a home , residence or sleeping place by one or two or more persons.” Police reports confirm that Terrell and Kelly were arrested on open land out of sight from any dwelling and do not support the allegation that they engaged in disorderly conduct. These criminal charges were eventually dismissed, but not before the Sherriff’s Department used them to hold Terrell and Kelly overnight in the Juneau County Jail on $350 bonds. Kelly declines to contest the forfeiture and will not be going to trial. In a July 25 reply to requests by Terrell for documents under the Open Records Law and for an explanation for apparently inflated charges and other police responses to the demonstration on February 23, Juneau County Undersheriff Craig Stuchlik alleged threats made by a participant against police officers there: “Law Enforcement Officers are being targeted in the United States by hate groups because they stand for law and order. Law Enforcement Officers are being executed by these hate groups at an alarming rate and it does not appear to be slowing down. As a matter of fact, you have had a person attend your protests in Camp Douglas who has threatened to kill our Deputies. Not sure if that person is a regular member of your group or just shows up from time to time.” Stuchlik explained in the same letter that deputies “ran” the license numbers of “all vehicles… that appeared to be involved in the protest,” even when legally parked. “When Deputies respond to such incidents, we need to know who we are dealing with,” said Stuchlik. “Thus the reason that we run license numbers. As I mentioned before, you have had a party attend your protests who has openly threatened to kill us. You seem to have different people attend your protests and thus another reason to run the license plates.” An earlier request for the department’s policy had been answered on May 4, “We do not run the license plates on legally parked vehicles” and in a May 29, letter, Stuchlik wrote, “On the date in question, only vehicles that were illegally parked had their license plates checked.” Stuchlik has refused requests for more information on these alleged threats and has not responded to an invitation to meet with members of the Coalition. In a reply to Stuchlik, Terrell noted that “the whole purpose of … our protests against the role of the Shadow Drone in targeted assassinations by personnel trained at Volk Field, is to oppose killing, threats of killing, or violence against anyone, anywhere, for any purpose or justification whatsoever... Because we are so strongly opposed to all violence and political killings of any kind, it is highly improper for you imply, by innuendo or otherwise, that Voices for Creative Nonviolence and Wisconsin Coalition to Ground the Drones and End the Wars are ‘hate groups’ that target police officers for execution. Further, planting the suspicion that we have among us a person who would so violate the spirit and purpose of our organizations as to openly threaten violence, even to the point of murder, without identifying that person to us, looks like another assault on our groups.” The actions of the Sheriff’s Department, he said “show a disturbing pattern in Juneau County. They bring to mind the ‘chilling effects’ of McCarthyism in the 1950s and the COINTELPRO activities of the FBI in the 1960s… There is a reasonable appearance that the Juneau County Sheriff’s Department is deliberately acting to discourage citizens from exercising their rights to peaceably assemble for the redress of grievances.” Organizers deny any association with hate groups or threats to police officers and promise that the vigils against drones at Volk Field will not be discouraged. “After 4 ½ years of citizens exercising their First Amendment rights in speaking out against US drone warfare at Volk Field, the harassment and intimidation by the Juneau County sheriff’s department continues to escalate,” says Joy First, a Mount Horeb, Wisconsin, activist. CONTACT: Brian Terrell, Voices for Creative Nonviolence 773-853-1886, brian at vcnv.org Or Joy First, Wisconsin Coalition to Ground the Drones and End the Wars 608-239-4327, Joyfirst5 at gmail.com If you are having trouble unsubscribing, please send an email to "nodronesinfo at gmail.com" for help If you are having trouble unsubscribing, please send an email to "nodronesinfo at gmail.com" for help -- Mary Anne Grady Flores Ithaca, NY 14850 1-607-280-8797 Ithaca Catholic Workers / Los Obreros Catolicos de Ithaca "If you think one person can't be effective, you've never been in bed with a mosquito" -War Resister's League "Si usted piensa que una persona no puede ser eficaz, nunca he estado en la cama con un mosquito" Liga de Opositores de Guerra "Protest beyond the law is not a departure from democracy; it is absolutely essential to it" Howard Zinn (1922-2010) "La protesta más allá de la ley no se aparta de la democracia, es absolutamente esencial para que" Howard Zinn (1922-2010) “To be hopeful in bad times is not just foolishly romantic. It is based on the fact that human history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness... What we choose to emphasize in this complex history will determine our lives. If we see only the worst, it destroys our capacity to do something. If we remember those times and places—and there are so many—where people have behaved magnificently, this gives us the energy to act and at least the possibility of sending this spinning top of a world in a different direction...And if we do act, in however small a way, we don't have to wait for some grand utopian future. The future is an infinite succession of presents and to live now as we think human beings should live, in defiance of all that is bad around us, is itself a marvelous victory." -- Howard Zinn www.democracynow.org www.upstatedroneaction.org www.cpt.org www.catholicworker.org Aljazeer a- look it up on line The Guardian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Wed Aug 24 14:50:37 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 09:50:37 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Roaming Charges: Prime Time Green In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002401d1fe16$e25b87c0$a7129740$@comcast.net> It appears that C-U ‘s very own Robert Naiman has received some dubious national fame. Roaming Charges: Prime Time Green http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/19/roaming-charges-prime-time-green/ by Jeffrey St. Clair * * * * * * Description: Image removed by sender. Screen Shot 2016-08-04 at 4.44.52 PM Give CNN just a little credit. On Wednesday night, the cable network hosted a Town Hall featuring Green Party candidates Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka. In those 90 Prime Time minutes, Stein and Baraka presented a clearer picture of the realities and consequences of US foreign policy and militarism than we heard from Bernie Sanders in a year’s worth of speeches. Americans who tuned in heard some things that are rarely mentioned in the mainstream media: a sober critique of the US’s malign relationship to the government of Israel, forthright calls for the elimination of nuclear weapons, the end of killer drone strikes, the closure of all 800-plus overseas military bases and an end to interventionist wars. The entire Town Hall session was the political equivalent of George Carlin’s the seven things you can’t say on TV. The Green Team deftly navigated the treacherous shoals of Cuomo’s questions. For most of the night, Cuomo played the role of a Clinton troll, trying to trip up Stein and Baraka with quotes ripped out of context and stale slanders planted by Democratic Party operatives. Despite all evidence to the contrary, it seems that Ralph Nader will forever be blamed for costing Al Gore the 2000 election. So he zeroed in on Stein, asking her how she could sleep at night if, like Nader, she ended up tipping the election to Trump. Stein didn’t blink, saying: “I would have trouble sleeping at night if Trump was elected. I would also have trouble sleeping if Hillary Clinton was elected.” Stein also easily swatted down the smear now being furiously spread by the Clintonoids that she is opposed to childhood vaccinations and that she is “anti-science.” It’s a ludicrous charge against a physician and one that has no basis in fact, as Stein forcefully demonstrated. Still, I hope this assault doesn’t discourage Stein and Baraka from at some point offering a critical analysis of the economic and political uses of science in the service of war and profit. One of the chief purveyors of this bilge of misinformation is a previously obscure fellow named Robert Naiman, who runs a nearly invisible group called Just Foreign Policy . Naiman was caught red-handed (so to speak) when his junk mail made its way to the inbox of John Stauber, author of Toxic Sludge is Good for You and a leading expert on the politics of propaganda and disinformation. Stauber knows a smear when he sees one. Here’s the text of the email Naiman circulated among his coterie of conflicted progressives at GameChangersSalon : From: Robert Naiman‪ If you have a lot of Facebook friends, you may have recently noticed a high level of activity on your Facebook feed by Jill Stein acolytes. If so, you may find the following links useful to throw them off their game. No warranty, express or implied. You don’t have to prove that Jill Stein is an anti-science conspiracy theorist. You just have to say, “There are unanswered questions about whether Jill Stein is an anti-science conspiracy theorist.” There’s Nothing Green About Jill Stein’s Vaccine Stance http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillingham/2016/07/29/theres-nothing-green-about-jill-steins-vaccine-stance/#35b3a40b6465 Jill Stein on vaccines: People have ‘real questions’ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/29/jill-stein-on-vaccines-people-have-real-questions/ Jill Stein Promotes Homeopathy, Panders On Vaccines http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2016/07/jill-stein-promotes-homeopathy-panders-on-vaccines/ Jill Stein Worries Wi-Fi Is Dangerous For Kids http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2016/08/jill-stein-worries-wi-fi-is-dangerous-for-kids/ === Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org You’d think Jill Stein was a card-carrying member of the Flat Earth Society. In fact, Stein graduated magna cum laude from Harvard University, graduated from Harvard Medical School, practiced internal medicine at Beth Israel Hospital for 25 years and taught medicine at Harvard Medical School. In other words, Stein is an unlikely suspect for ratting out a modern-day Galileo. The same cannot be said for the current Democratic administration whose vicious crackdown on whistleblowers, many of them scientists, has been part of a concerted and unrelenting campaign to snuff out internal dissent. It so happens that Naiman, an alleged peace activist, is also the board president for the liberal website Truthout. Veteran readers of CounterPunch will recall Truthout from John Pilger’s acrid account of his head-on collision with their editors, who peevishly tried to cleanse his essay, “A World War Has Begun: Break the Silence ,” of passages which might prove uncomfortable for the Democratic Party establishment. In a nasty email exchange with longtime Green organizer Kevin Zeese, who is now co-director of Popular Resistance , a group which grew out of the Occupy movement, Naiman sunk even further into the slime and threatened to expose Jill Stein as “a Trotskyite cancer.” On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Robert Naiman wrote: Oh, is today my day to be harassed by Green Party thugs? I’ll make you a deal: call off your dogs and I won’t further expose Jill Stein as a Trokskyite cancer. Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org Slandering Stein and the Greens for being “Trotskyites” (or “Trokskyites,” in Naiman’s quaint verbiage) is as intellectually vapid as it is vile. Everyone knows that most of Leon’s former disciples in the US have long since morphed into neocons and thus can be spotted in Georgetown cafes polishing their resumés for slots on Hillary’s foreign policy team. “Robert Naiman epitomizes the attitude of the paid, professional Democrat progressives attacking the Green Party and Jill Stein,” John Stauber told me. “These shills see no hypocrisy in embracing a candidate supported by Wall Street, the Koch brothers and the neoconservatives who with Hillary lied America into attacking Iraq. So there it is, Hillary is his champion while a woman running on the most progressive platform in America is just a damned Communist. Rather than back down when he himself was exposed, he doubled down with a smear befitting the worst of American politics. Naiman is not an aberration however; indeed, he embodies the funded progressive elite who since 2000 have become a front group for the Democrats liberal oligarchs such as George Soros and his Democracy Alliance.” The hypocrisy of the Clintonoids is almost as audacious as their dissemination of lies about Jill Stein. Of course, their champion, the “pro-science” Hillary Clinton, ignores scientific facts and assessments whenever such considerations prove to be an even minor inconvenience to the headlong pursuit of her corporate agenda (cf, fracking). “People may wonder why suddenly everyone was saying Jill Stein is anti-vax — now we know it was a coordinated campaign,” Zeese told me. “Obviously, it also happens in the media because all of a sudden multiple news outlets were reporting the same thing. Had Stein said something that all these media outlets saw and ‘reported’ on — no, she had not said anything anti-vax, but they were coordinated. It was a planned slander attack.” Despite Clinton’s apparent lead in the polls, there’s a palpable sense of desperation in the air, as if her support is so soft that Hillary could sink another 10 points in the wake of one more email dump from Wikileaks or Guccifer 2.0. This explains why her surrogates are reaching so deeply into their bag of dirty tricks. The red-baiting of Stein and Baraka is a perfect expression of the Clinton machine’s political and moral bankruptcy. Birth of a Hit Job You just knew some kind of campaign to sabotage Nate Parker’s sizzling film about Nat Turner’s slave revolt, “Birth of a Nation,” was going to erupt sooner or later. One might have anticipated that the attack on Parker’s hotly anticipated film might have originated from Breitbart, the Drudge Report or the Weekly Standard. Oh, no. The hit piece was launched from the homepage of the New York Times , which dredged up a 17-year-old allegation of rape against Parker, who was then a student at Penn State University. Parker was charged with rape, went to trial and was acquitted by a jury. The accuser in the case committed suicide more than a decade later. The insinuations at work in the Times story are that Parker somehow escaped conviction on a technicality (a rarity for a black man accused of raping a white woman), that the accuser killed herself because she couldn’t deal with the trauma of the rape and that you should boycott “Birth of a Nation” because it’s a film made by a remorseless rapist. I don’t know the facts of the Nate Parker rape case and you won’t learn them from this long NYT story, which treads in whispers, rumors and manufactured outrage. We don’t learn why Parker was acquitted or much at all about course of the trial. We don’t learn why his roommate’s conviction was overturned on appeal. We don’t know why the accuser committed suicide 10 years later. We don’t know why the accuser’s family believes that a rival studio leaked the original story to Variety. We don’t learn anything at all except that there is now a furious effort to discredit the film and disparage its director. Perhaps Parker deserves the scorn. I don’t know and neither will you from reading this mendacious piece. Even if one accepts the worst interpretation of the facts of the case (the jury didn’t), how does that invalidate the film? Does the New York Times really want us to believe that black women weren’t regularly raped in the southern slave states? That the torments and torture endured by slaves such as Nat Turner didn’t take place? That Turner’s fierce rebellion against the criminals who abused him and his comrades didn’t ignite after suffering a long history of unspeakable wrongs? This story an object lesson in character assassination NYT’s style. Think Positive I’ve been thinking about what it would take to finally abolish the anti-democratic Electoral College. Probably an election where Trump wins the popular vote by 400,000 votes and loses in the Electoral College by more than 30 votes. The Right wouldn’t tolerate that result, the way Gore and the Democrats did in 2000, when the Ozone Man won the popular vote nationally, probably won Florida and yet meekly swallowed the unconstitutional ruling of the Supreme Court handing the election to Bush. There’s a potentially positive result from a HRC victory to load into your Lesser Evil Voting calculator. If the Feet Fit The current net worth of George W. Bush, the man Ann Richards lampooned as being “born with a silver foot in his mouth,” is: $23 million. Net worth of the perpetually poor-mouthing Clintons: $111 million. Those must be platinum feet Hillary and Bill are munching on… False Flag Email Alert! Speaking of Democratic millionaires, Nancy Pelosi (Net Worth: $58 million) is launching a pre-emptive strike against the next leak of DNC emails. Pelosi is telling anyone who will listen that the next batch of emails exposing political trickery and corruption by party elites will likely be fakes , a false flag October Surprise generated by Russian intelligence to cripple the Democratic Party and help secure the election for Trump. The patsy in Pelosi’s conspiracy theory will no doubt be Julian Assange, for uploading these malicious cyber missives from his hidden vantage on GrassyKnoll.com. Assange, of course, is Number Two on the Democrats’ Wanted: Dead or Alive List, lagging behind Vladimir Putin and but still slightly ahead of Bashir Assad. The Courage of Chou This week Howard Lisnoff wrote an excellent and widely read piece on Hillary and her intellectual Svengali, Henry Kissinger. But at this moment I’m more interested in the photo that either Nathaniel St. Clair or Joshua Frank selected to illustrate Howard’s story. The photo depicts Nixon toasting Chou En-Lai, probably the greatest diplomat of our time, during the president’s visit to Peking. Even Nixon and Kissinger’s enemies tend to effusively praise the shameless duo’s “courage” for opening the long-shuttered door to China. But that 1972 trip didn’t take courage. It was the fruition a business deal. All the real fortitude during those negotiations was displayed by Chou. After all, he was dealing with a nation whose intelligence elites had tried to assassinate him only a few years earlier, when agents of the CIA placed a bomb on the plane he was meant to take to the Bandung Conference in Indonesia in 1955. (See ND Jayaprakash’s definitive account: Why Did the CIA Try to Kill Chou En-Lai? ) And who was vice-president and chief Cold Warrior at the time of the bombing? Yep, the man Chou is toasting–Richard M. Nixon. Jerry’s Flint According to this scandalous report in Mother Jones by Tom Philpott, more than 200,000 people are drinking toxic water in California’s central valley. Yet we hear almost nothing about it. Could this be because, unlike in Michigan, California has a Democratic governor, who is soft on Big Ag, and most of the poisoned are migrant workers? Late for the Sky Speaking of the environmental politics of Jerry Brown, the towering smoke plumes from the rampaging Blue Cut fire near San Bernardino have merged with the normal stew of particulate matter and ozone to render the air in the Los Angeles Basin about as dangerous as Delhi’s on an average day. Brown, the man the Democratic Party selected to deliver a tepid message on climate change at their convention, is wholly owned by big oil and the fracking industry. It’s no surprise, therefore, to find that California contains 8 of the 10 worst zones for air quality in the United States. The toxic air in California accounts for more than 21,000 premature deaths a year, 40 percent of the total for the entire nation. The health care costs associated with treating victims of California’s dirty air top $200 million every year. Don’t worry, though, help is on the way. I’ve heard from someone who is in a position to know that one of Trump’s first acts as president, if elected, will be to issue an Executive Order declaring smog to be a vegetable. Trading Places Obama heads the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is ostensibly in opposition to the TPP. Yet, Obama is now traveling across what was once considered the “battleground” region, hustling votes for Hillary while simultaneously pimping for the TPP . Work out that political syllogism. When Bernie announced his support for HRC based on the victories he’s secured in the Democratic Party platform, and from Hillary herself, I said that those commitments had been “written in disappearing ink.” But even I didn’t think those mighty pledges would begin to fade from public view until after the election. Obama’s blatant huckstering for the TPP is a sure sign that the neo-Democrats feel confident of total victory and can stick their real agenda in the face of the Left during the campaign with impunity. Look for ‘Pass the TPP’ signs at Hillary rallies in October. The Politics of Weed While Obama’s DEA wants desperately to continue the war on pot, to justify its own existence and maximize its budget (See Jesse Ventura’s piece in today’s CounterPunch), the nation as a whole seems to be waking up. A new poll from Gallup shows that 58 percent of Americans believe that “the use of marijuana should be made legal.” In California, upwards of 60 percent of registered voters say that they will vote to approve a November ballot initiative to legalize marijuana for recreational use under California law and allow government to tax its retail sales. Arise from your slumbers Barry-O, or risk being swept away by the rising bongwaters of history. Looking Through You The latest NBC Poll shows that only 11% view HRC as ‘honest and trustworthy.’ The news isn’t any better from Democrats, where only 12% view her as ‘honest and trustworthy’–and they still plan to vote for her, knowing full well that she’ll screw them over. Only possible conclusion: Democrats like being screwed over. Shit on the Sacred Slopes In order to manufacture something for skiers to ski on in climate change ravaged northern Arizona, the City of Flagstaff has been “making snow” by using water from human sewage and then spraying it on the San Francisco Peaks, one of the holiest sites of the Hopi (and 13 other tribes). The Hopi have fiercely fought this odious desecration for years. The courts remain deaf to their pleas. The legal battle has ended. Rest assured, the Hopi will find other ways to fight. The Hunted and the Hunter A couple of years after Hemingway blew his brains out with a two-barreled shotgun he used to shoot pigeons, a young Hunter S. Thompson showed up at the late writer’s cabin in the shadow of Idaho’s Sawtooth Mountains on assignment for the National Observer. His mission: explain why Hemingway killed himself. Thompson’s story proved to be a rather perfunctory exercise in speculative psychology. (You can read it in his collection The Great Shark Hunt .) While in Ketchum, the good Doctor became fixated by a large pair of elk antlers that Hemingway had nailed above the front door of his cabin and in true Gonzo-style Thompson swiped the animal relicts and trundled them back to his garage in Woody Creek, Colorado, where they hung for decades among his dartboards and explosive devices. Then last week, Thompson’s wife, Anita, returned them to the Hemingway cabin, which is now owned by the Nature Conservancy. Anita Thompson said that she brought the antlers back to Idaho because Hunter had felt guilty about keeping them. I don’t believe Hunter regretted this escapade for a minute. He boasted about the heist to friends for many years. If Anita wanted to restore the karmic balance, she should have returned them to the mountain meadow from which Hemingway stole them at rifle point. As my friend Michael Donnelly quipped: “I wouldn’t give the Nature Conspiracy a pile of elk dung!” Bernie’s Last Tape My pal Carl G. Estabrook, looking very trim, devotes the first few minutes of his must watch show on politics, culture and the media out of Champaign-Urbana, News From Neptune (the antecedent is Chomsky not Hendrix or William Morris) to a reading of my little drama, “Bernie’s Last Tape .” Carl has actually performed Beckett, to great acclaim, I’ve just slandered Lonesome Sam’s reputation through parody. (Someone should stop me before I write the sequel: Bernie’s Last Krapp.) Sound Grammar What I’m listening to this week: 1/ Devastatin’ Rhythm by David Vest 2/ Protest by Bunny Wailer 3/ Brand New Blues by Cyril Neville (Check out his blistering post-Katrina version of Marley’s Slave Driver.) 4/ The Deepest Lake by Dengue Fever 5/ Silver City by Sarah Borges The World Through a One-Way Mirror “We are beckoned to see the world through a one-way mirror, as if we are threatened and innocent and the rest of humanity is threatening, or wretched, or expendable. Our memory is struggling to rescue the truth that human rights were not handed down as privileges from a parliament, or a boardroom, or an institution, but that peace is only possible with justice and with information that gives us the power to act justly.” — John Pilger Join the debate on Facebook Jeffrey St. Clair is editor of CounterPunch. His new book is Killing Trayvons: an Anthology of American Violence (with JoAnn Wypijewski and Kevin Alexander Gray). He can be reached at: sitka at comcast.net. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Allowing the Democratic and Republican parties to jointly control debates is unjustified and undemocratic. Nothing requires television networks to do so. Click here to sign a petition that we will deliver to ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox Broadcasting, PBS, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, Univision, and Telemundo. http://act.rootsaction.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=12433 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 11144 bytes Desc: not available URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Wed Aug 24 23:49:44 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 18:49:44 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Durbin non-response response on Saudi arms deal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <012DB954-ABA3-403C-8195-BFF438980654@newsfromneptune.com> Another indication that electing Democrats to Congress will do nothing to end the Obama-Clinton administration’s murderous Mideast policy. > On Aug 24, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Robert Naiman via Peace wrote: > > From: "Senator Richard J. Durbin" > > Date: Monday, August 22, 2016 at 3:47 PM > Subject: Message from Senator Richard J. Durbin > > > > August 22, 2016 > > Dear X: > > > Thank you for contacting me with your concerns about U.S. arms sales to Saudi Arabia. I appreciate hearing from you. > > The U.S. export control system is enforced by several federal agencies. Items with both civilian and military applications, called "dual-use" goods, are licensed by the Department of Commerce while munitions are licensed by the Department of State. Restrictions on exports are administered by the U.S. Treasury. > > Saudi Arabia is an important American ally with which we share many common concerns, including countering the Islamic State and the ongoing conflict in Syria. However, I also remain concerned about human rights in Saudi Arabia, as well as the country's intolerant teachings and involvement in Yemen. > > While in Congress, I have advocated for greater accountability in our relationship with Saudi Arabia as well as improvements in human rights. I have sent letters to the Saudi Government and met with the Saudi Ambassador to the United States to call for the release of many political prisoners. I have also called on the Saudis to implement reforms to better uphold the rights of women, religious minorities, foreign workers, and others. > > Ensuring that military-grade international arms are sold only to legitimate governments or organizations is a paramount national security concern for the United States. I will continue to monitor events in Saudi Arabia and will keep your thoughts in mind as the United States considers policies toward that nation. > > Thank you again for contacting me. Please feel free to keep in touch. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > Richard J. Durbin > United States Senator > > > RJD/jg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 25 15:47:10 2016 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:47:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Midge O'Brien letter to NG References: <663681048.11177502.1472140030652.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <663681048.11177502.1472140030652.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Dems slam Stein, show weaknesses Thu, 08/25/2016 - 7:00am | The News-Gazette Democrats must be running scared, stooping to smear tactics with untruths on Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein. In spite of Hillary Clinton's unpopularity, she is still leading in national polls. Maybe the Democrats don't believe it. Why else would they use blatantly disinformation tactics about Dr. Stein's positions on several issues, mentioned by Eric Vimr in his letter to the News-Gazette printed Aug. 20? A distinguished scholar and graduate of Harvard Medical School where she taught and practiced internal medicine for 25 years and currently an emergency room physician, Dr. Stein is hardly the anti-scientist that detractors such as local Democrat/Clinton shill Eric Vimr tried to portray as "loony left." Her platform extends to issues raised by Bernie Sanders, such as Medicare for all, free education through college, more stringent banking and investment control, elimination of egregious economic inequality, and steps to address imminent global warming. None of this can be achieved without curbing America's imperial foreign policy and disgraceful defense industry profit in wars not in our national interest, which Clinton and Democrats are not likely to do. Vimr concludes that "HRC (is)the only viable candidate." He must have taken the Kool-Aid from local Democrat "Just Foreign Policy" Robert Naiman's attempt to discourage support for Jill Stein (related article in Counterpunch Aug. 19 by Jeffery St. Clair). MIDGE O'BRIEN Savoy From carl at newsfromneptune.com Fri Aug 26 00:57:52 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:57:52 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Gill is back on the Ballot In-Reply-To: <015601d1ff32$e99c7e50$bcd57af0$@comcast.net> References: <015601d1ff32$e99c7e50$bcd57af0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: The Prairie Greens (Champaign-Urbana) are supporting David Gill for Congress in the 13th Illinois Congressional District, in part because of his pledge to us that he would oppose Obama-Clinton war-making, not vote to authorize or fund it, etc. Both the Republican incumbent and (apparently) the Democratic challenger are war supporters. —CGE > On Aug 25, 2016, at 7:43 PM, David Johnson wrote: > > From: Vicki Capalbo [mailto:vj.capalbo at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:23 PM > To: Bill Bianchi > Cc: Anne Scheetz; jim rhodes; Allan Nowakowski; David Meimers; Arlene Gloria Hirsch; John Laesch; Steve Serikaku; mark johnson; Jeanne Marie Dauray; giudi weiss; Lenny Brody; Bruce E Parry; Tom Broderick; David Johnson > Subject: Re: Gill is back on the Ballot > > This is great news!!!!!! > > On Thursday, August 25, 2016, Bill Bianchi wrote: > Good news from Champaign. A Judge issued an injunction today against the Illinois Board of Elections stopping them from removing Dr. Gill from the ballot for November. > > Gill had filled a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the state's election laws in regard to getting independents or a third party on the ballot. > > The injunction is in force until the constitutionality question is determined, which is unlikely to happen before the election. > > Please circulate this to who ever you think would be interested. > > Regards: > > Bill Bianchi > PDA-Chicago > Illinois Single Payer Coalition > 773-636-1927 cell > 773-935-3346 > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Donald Necessary > Date: Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:29 PM > Subject: We are on the Ballot > To: Bill Bianchi > > > Please pass along the news to our supporters up north that we made it on the ballot! > > You don't know how much your support means to us! > > Don Necessary From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Fri Aug 26 01:07:29 2016 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 01:07:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Gill is back on the Ballot References: <310106487.164689.1472173649508.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <310106487.164689.1472173649508.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I hope that all of the Progressives in our region come to understand that if they vote for Democrat Mark Wicklund, they are only helping to re-elect Rodney Davis. DG -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 8/25/16, C. G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: Subject: Re: [Peace] Gill is back on the Ballot To: "peace" , "Peace-discuss List" Cc: "sf-core" , "Occupy CU" Date: Thursday, August 25, 2016, 7:57 PM The Prairie Greens (Champaign-Urbana) are supporting David Gill for Congress in the 13th Illinois Congressional District, in part because of his pledge to us that he would oppose Obama-Clinton war-making, not vote to authorize or fund it, etc. Both the Republican incumbent and (apparently) the Democratic challenger are war supporters. —CGE > On Aug 25, 2016, at 7:43 PM, David Johnson wrote: > > From: Vicki Capalbo [mailto:vj.capalbo at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:23 PM > To: Bill Bianchi > Cc: Anne Scheetz; jim rhodes; Allan Nowakowski; David Meimers; Arlene Gloria Hirsch; John Laesch; Steve Serikaku; mark johnson; Jeanne Marie Dauray; giudi weiss; Lenny Brody; Bruce E Parry; Tom Broderick; David Johnson > Subject: Re: Gill is back on the Ballot >  > This is great news!!!!!! > > On Thursday, August 25, 2016, Bill Bianchi wrote: > Good news from Champaign.   A Judge issued an injunction today against the Illinois Board of Elections stopping them from removing Dr. Gill from the ballot for November.  > > Gill had filled a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the state's election laws in regard to getting independents or a third party on the ballot.  > > The injunction is in force until the constitutionality question is determined, which is unlikely to happen before the election.  > > Please circulate this to who ever you think would be interested. > > Regards: > > Bill Bianchi > PDA-Chicago > Illinois Single Payer Coalition > 773-636-1927 cell > 773-935-3346 >  > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Donald Necessary > Date: Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:29 PM > Subject: We are on the Ballot > To: Bill Bianchi > > > Please pass along the news to our supporters up north that we made it on the ballot! > > You don't know how much your support means to us! > > Don Necessary _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Fri Aug 26 03:01:40 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 22:01:40 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: World Labor Hour Saturday August 27th Message-ID: <01c901d1ff46$46be8660$d43b9320$@comcast.net> WORLD LABOR HOUR SATURDAY AUGUST 27th 11 pm - 1 pm U.S. Central Time 90.1 FM and LIVE worldwide at www.weft.org University of Law Professor Francis Boyle will be our guest at the top of 11 am hour to discuss the scheduled appearance of Hillary Clinton's Attorney Harold Koh at the University of Illinois Law School in October. Professor Boyle states that Harold Koh is responsible for the legal justification for war crimes committed by the U.S. government and Hillary Clinton while she was Secretary of State in the Obama administration. Stay tuned after the World Labor Hour for " THE UNION edge " radio program, broadcast from Pittsburgh Pa. with Host Charles Showalter. WEFT - Listener supported community radio for East Central Illinois and the WORLD. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Aug 26 03:08:59 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 03:08:59 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] World Labor Hour Saturday August 27th In-Reply-To: <01d901d1ff46$9790d520$c6b27f60$@comcast.net> References: <01d901d1ff46$9790d520$c6b27f60$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thanks for doing this. Will be there. Hey! Hey! Illinois Law Say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: David Johnson [mailto:davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:05 PM To: David Johnson Subject: FW: World Labor Hour Saturday August 27th WORLD LABOR HOUR SATURDAY AUGUST 27th 11 pm - 1 pm U.S. Central Time 90.1 FM and LIVE worldwide at www.weft.org University of Law Professor Francis Boyle will be our guest at the top of 11 am hour to discuss the scheduled appearance of Hillary Clinton's Attorney Harold Koh at the University of Illinois Law School in October. Professor Boyle states that Harold Koh is responsible for the legal justification for war crimes committed by the U.S. government and Hillary Clinton while she was Secretary of State in the Obama administration. Stay tuned after the World Labor Hour for " THE UNION edge " radio program, broadcast from Pittsburgh Pa. with Host Charles Showalter. WEFT - Listener supported community radio for East Central Illinois and the WORLD. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Sat Aug 27 18:20:53 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:20:53 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Political Phonies In-Reply-To: <1296384183.8606339.1472314928959.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <1644221263.8582219.1472312751184.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <1296384183.8606339.1472314928959.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <008601d2008f$c0f28bd0$42d7a370$@comcast.net> Dear Friends, The Decatur television news program announced a visit by Senate candidate Tammy Duckworth that had already taken place. There was no rally, no inside news coverage, no ordinary voters invited, only the usual corporate palm greasing ceremony from one of America's sleaziest corporations; Archer Daniels Midland Company. The Duckworth campaign has reached out to IL activists for donations to her campaign and I was one of them who donated with the hope of getting rid of incumbent, Mark Kirk. I did not expect to be invited to meet Duckworth but an open forum with questions and answers would have went a long way for my continued support. If Duckworth's outreach for money and support is to be successful she needs to reach out to voters, supporters, and those she is suppose to represent. Her brief statement at the end of the meeting with the rich and devious said it all, and it was troubling. The gist of her remarks was slobbering on ADM and how "we need invest in corporations who provide good jobs". When you digest that comment, questions are raised. "Invest in corporations" is political doublespeak for massive tax breaks, ethanol subsidies, and allowing them to ignore playing by the rules. Share holders "invests" in ADM and rake in the gold for it. Decatur gets their pollution, their control over city government and the numerous deaths of employees through OSHA violations, not to mention constant labor turmoil due to ADM anti-union sentiments. Then there is the numerous black-eyes Decatur gets after ADM is embroiled in one corruption scandal after another. The national mantra that somehow we need to pay corporations to provide jobs is a subject that goes far beyond Duckworth. It is the mantra of the overwhelming majority on both sides of the aisle. How about "we provide the labor that produces the profits. The evil of this mantra has created the greatest disparity of wealth in US history and the greatest social divide. It is abundantly clear that Duckworth is in lockstep with the mantra and in her visit to Decatur she met with the only supporter that mattered to a seasoned corporate lacky. Mike Griffin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Aug 27 18:23:42 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:23:42 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: FW: World Labor Hour Saturday August 27th In-Reply-To: <005a01d2008e$65975be0$30c613a0$@comcast.net> References: <01d901d1ff46$9790d520$c6b27f60$@comcast.net> <005a01d2008e$65975be0$30c613a0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Here is the link to our interview today. I want to thank David for putting giving me the Platform. As said on the program, WILL has blackballed me off there for years because of my support for the Palestinians. I have added Amanda Bass to this informal Killer Koh list. Amanda was a law student at NYU Law who had the courage, integrity and principles to oppose Killer Koh there despite substantial faculty and national legal opposition. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: David Johnson [mailto:davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 1:11 PM To: Boyle, Francis A ; Amanda Bass Subject: RE: FW: World Labor Hour Saturday August 27th Yes, You can go to www.weft.org and download an audio copy from the archive for todays World Labor Hour broadcast. It was a real pleasure to finally meet you Francis, and you were fantastic on the radio today. David Johnson From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:59 PM To: Amanda Bass Cc: David Johnson Subject: RE: FW: World Labor Hour Saturday August 27th Thanks for your kind words. They were most appreciated. You can ask David Johnson at WEFT if he could be so kind as to post a link to the web—assuming it was recorded. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Amanda Bass [mailto:abass10 at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:50 PM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Re: FW: World Labor Hour Saturday August 27th Thanks so much for your courage and your witness. The law school's (and the faculty) response to your effort to bring awareness about Killer Koh's record and to contest his appearance this fall is horrendous. Unbelievable (but not surprising) that not a single member of the law school faculty has the courage or the human decency to stand in solidarity with you and against an obvious war criminal. Do you know if today's show will be posted online? I'd like to circulate it and to send it to Debra and Nick. Solidarity, Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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These Reaganites were and still are Nazis, including Killer Koh. I am not exaggerating. I was Chairman of the following International Tribunal. I did the first draft of the Judgment, then negotiated it out with my Colleagues, one of whom was the late, great Mary Kaufman, who prosecuted IG Farben at Nuremberg. Mary signed my Judgment as revised. RIP. I explained all of this to the Law Faculty. It made no difference to them. Not one of them supported me. The University of Illinois College of Law Faculty have now become Accessories After the Fact to All the Crimes committed by Killer Koh/Clinton/Obama/Reagan. They are not fit to educate Lawyers, Members of the Bar, and Officers of the Court. Indeed their repeated gross ethical violations and sanctions by the past 3 Deans and 3 Acting Deans in a row prove it, including a $250,000 Fine for Gross Unethical Behavior by the American Bar Association that I already circulated to you, which is unprecedented in American Legal Education. Their invitation to Killer Koh to come here to campaign for Clinton on October 28 ten days before the election is the tip of the iceberg of what has been going on around here for decades: their legal and ethical nihilism. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: nytr at olm.blythe-systems.com [mailto:nytr at olm.blythe-systems.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:47 PM To: undisclosed-recipients Subject: [NYTr] Reagan and Nuremberg - Boyle Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit sent by Francis Boyle WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH WE ALL LOVE BIG BROTHER REAGAN WAS PRESIDENT IN 1984 Conclusions and Judgment of Brussels Tribunal on Reagan's Foreign Policy (September 30, 1984) The International Conference on the Reagan administration's foreign policy convened in Brussels from 28-30 September, 1984 under the auspices of the International Progress Organization. Reports were submitted by international jurists and foreign policy specialists on the various aspects of the Reagan administration's foreign policy. Among the participants of the conference were Sean McBride (Nobel Laureate, Ireland), Prof. George Wald (Nobel Laureate, Harvard University), General Edgardo Mercado Jarrin (Peru), General Nino Pasti (former Deputy Supreme Commander of NATO) and Hortensia Bussi de Allende (Chile). The reports were presented before a panel of jurists consisting of Hon. Farouk Abu-Eissa (Sudan), attorney, former foreign minister, secretary-general of the Arab Lawyers Union; Prof. Francis A. Boyle (U.S.A.), professor of international law from the University of Illinois, Chairman; Dr. Hans Goeran Franck (Sweden), attorney, member of the Swedish Parliament; Hon. Mirza Gholam Hafiz (Bangladesh), former Speaker of the Bangladesh Parliament and currently a senior advocate of the Bangladesh Supreme Court; Hon. Mary M. Kaufman (U.S.A.), attorney-at-law, prosecuting attorney at the Nuremberg War Crimes Trial against I.G. Farben; Dr. Jean-Claude Njem (Cameroon), assistant-professor at the Faculty of Law, Uppsala University and a consultant of the government; Prof. Alberto Ruiz-Eldredge (Peru), professor of law, former president of the National Council of Justice; and Dr. Muemlaz Soysal (Turkey), professor of constitutional law, University of Ankara. An accusation against the international legality of the Reagan Administration's foreign policy was delivered by the Honorable Ramsey Clark, former U.S. Attorney General. The defense was presented by a legal expert of the Reagan Administration. Based upon all the reports and documents submitted and the arguments by the advocates, the Brussels Panel of Jurists hereby renders the following conclusions concerning the compatibility of the Reagan Administration's foreign policy with the requirements of international law. A. Introduction 1. General Introduction. The Reagan administration's foreign policy constitutes a gross violation of the fundamental principles of international law enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations Organization, as well as the basic rules of customary international law set forth in the UN General Assembly's Declaration on the Inadmissibility of Intervention in the Domestic Affairs of States and the Protection of Their Independence and Sovereignty (1965), its Declaration on the Principles of International Law Concerning Friendly Relations and Cooperation Among States in Accordance with the Charter of the United Nations (1970), and its Definition of Aggression (1974), among others. In addition, the Reagan administration is responsible for complicity in the commission of crimes against peace, crimes against humanity, war crimes and grave breaches of the Third and Fourth Geneva Conventions of 1949. B. Western Hemisphere 2. Grenada. The Reagan administration's 1983 invasion of Grenada was a clear-cut violation of the UN Charter articles 2(3), 2(4), and 33 as well as of articles 18, 20, and 21 of the Revised OAS Charter for which there was no valid excuse or justification under international law. As such, it constituted an act of aggression within the meaning of article 39 of the United Nation's Charter. 3. Threat of U.S. Intervention. In direct violation of the basic requirement of international law mandating the peaceful settlement of international disputes, the Reagan administration has implemented a foreign policy towards Central American that constitutes a great danger of escalation in military hostilities to the point of precipitating armed intervention by U.S. troops into combat against both the insurgents in El Salvador and the legitimate government of Nicaragua. 4. El Salvador. The Reagan administration's illegal intervention inot El Salvador's civil war contravenes the international legal right of self-determination of peoples as recognized by article 1(2) of the United Nations Charter. The Reagan administration has provided enormous amounts of military assistance to an oppressive regime that has used it to perpetrate a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental human rights of the people of El Salvador. 5. Nicaragua. The Reagan administration's policy of organizing and participating in military operations by opposition contra groups for the purpose of overthrowing the legitimate government of Nicaragua violates the terms of both the UN and OAS. Charters prohibiting the threat or use of force against the political independence of a state. The Reagan administration has flouted its obligation to terminate immediately its support for the opposition contra groups in accordance with the Interim Order of Protection issued by the International Court of Justice on 10 May 1984. 6. The International Court of Justice. The Panel denounces the patently bogus attempt by the Reagan administration to withdraw from the compulsory jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice in the suit brought against it by Nicaragua for the purpose of avoiding a peaceful settlement of this dispute by the World Court in order to pursue instead a policy based upon military intervention, lawless violence and destabilization of the legitimate government of Nicaragua. 7. Mining Nicaraguan Harbors. The Reagan administration's mining of Nicaraguan harbors violates the rules of international law set forth in the 1907 Hague Convention on the laying of Submarine Mines, to which both Nicaragua and the United States are parties. C. Nuclear Weapons Policies 8. Arms Control Treaties. The Reagan administration has refused to support the ratification of the Threshold Test Ban Treaty of 1974, the Peaceful Nuclear Explosions Treaty of 1976, and the SALT II Treaty of 1979. In addition to renouncing the longstanding objective of the U.S. government to renegotiate a comprehensive test ban treaty. As such the Reagan administration has failed to pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament as required by article 6 of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty of 1968. Similarly, the Reagan administration's "Strategic Defense Initiative" of 1983 threatens to breach the Anti-Ballistic Missile Systems Treaty of 1972. 9. Pershing 2 Missiles. The deployment of the offensive, first-strike, counterforce strategic nuclear weapons system known as the Pershing 2 missile in the Federal Republic of Germany violates the non-circumvention clause found in article 12 of the SALT II Treaty. The Reagan administration is bound to obey this prohibition pursuant to the rule of customary international law enunciated in article 18 of the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties to the effect that a signatory to a treaty is obliged to refrain from acts that would defeat the object and purpose of a treaty until it has made its intention clear not to become a party. 10. The MX Missile. The MX missile is an offensive, first-strike, counterforce, strategic nuclear weapons system that can serve no legitimate defensive purpose under UN Charter article 51 and the international laws of humanitarian armed conflict. 11. No-First-Use. In accordance with UN General Assembly Resolution 1553 of 24 November 1961, the Panel denounces the refusal by the Reagan administration to adopt a policy mandating the no-first-use of nuclear weapons in the event of a conventional attack as required by the basic rule of international law dictating proportionality in the use of force even for the purposes of legitimate self-defense. 12. ASAT Treaty. The Panel calls upon both the United States and the Soviet Union to negotiate unconditionally over the conclusion of an anti-satellite weapons treaty. D. Middle East 13. Lebanon. For the part it played in the planning, preparation and initiation of the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, the Reagan administration has committed a crime against peace as defined by the Nuremberg Principles. Likewise, under the Nuremberg Principles, the Reagan administration becomes an accomplice to the crimes against humanity, war crimes and grave breaches of the Third and Fourth Geneva Conventions of 1949 that have been committed or condoned by Israel and its allied Phalange and Haddad militia forces in Lebanon. Such complicity includes the savage massacre of genocidal character of hundreds of innocent Palestinians and Lebanese civilians by organized unites of the Phalangist militia at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps located in West Beirut that were then subject to control by the occupying Israeli army. The Reagan administration has totally failed to discharge its obligation to obtain Israel's immediate and unconditional withdrawal from all parts of Lebanon as required by UN Security Council Resolutions 508 and 509 (1982), both of which are legally binding in Israel and the United States under UN Charter article 28. This includes Israeli evacuation of southern Lebanon. 14. The Palestinian Question. The Reagan administration's policy toward the Palestinian people as well as the Reagan "Peace Plan" of 1 September 1982 violates the international legal right of the Palestinian people to self-determination as recognized by UN Charter article 1(2). As recognized by numerous General Assembly resolutions, the Palestinian people have an international legal right to create and independent and sovereign state. The Palestinian Liberation Organization has been recognized as the legitimate representative of the Palestinian people by both the United Nations General Assembly and the League of Arab States. The Reagan administration's nonrecognition of the PLO and its attempt to brand the PLO a "terrorist" group contravene the Palestinian people's right to liberation. The panel denounces the negative attitude of the Reagan Administration towards the call by the United Nations' Secretary General for the convocation of an international conference under the auspices of the United Nations, with the United States and the Soviet Union as co-chairmen, and with the participation of all parties involved in the conflict including the PLO, for the purpose of obtaining a just and lasting peace in the Middle East. 15. Israeli Settlements. The Reagan administration's declared position that Israeli settlements in the Occupied Territories are "not illegal" is a violation of U.S. obligations under article 1 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949 to ensure respect for the terms of the Convention (here article 49) by other High Contracting Parties such as Israel. 16. Libya. The Reagan administration's dispatch of the U.S. Sixth Fleet into the Gulf of Sidra for the purpose of precipitating armed conflict with the Libyan government constitutes a breach fo the peace under Article 39 of the UN Charter. The Reagan administration's policy to attempt to destabilize the government of Libya violates the terms of the United Nations Charter article 2(4) prohibiting the threat or use of force directed against the political independence of a state. E. Africa, Asia and the Indian Ocean 17. Apartheid. The Panel denounces the Reagan administration's so-called policy of "constructive engagement" toward the apartheid regime in South Africa. This specious policy encourages discrimination and oppression against the majority of the people of South Africa; it hampers effective action by the international community against apartheid and facilitates aggressive conduct by the South African apartheid regime against neighbor states in violation of the UN Charter. As such, the Reagan administration has become an accomplice to the commission of the international crime of apartheid as recognized by the universally accepted International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid of 1973. The Panel also denounces the cooperation between the Reagan administration and South Africa in military and nuclear matters. 18. Namibia. The Reagan administration has refused to carry out its obligations under Security Council Resolution 435 (1978) providing for the independence of Namibia, as required by article 25 of the UN Charter. The right of the Namibian people to self-determination had been firmly established under international law long before the outbreak of the Angolan civil war. The Reagan administration has no right to obstruct the achievement of Namibian independence by conditioning it or "linking" it to the withdrawal of Cuban troops from Angola in any way. Both the UN General Assembly and the Organization of African Unity have recognized SWAPI as the legitimate representative of the Namibian people and the Reagan administration is obligated to negotiate with it as such. 19. Angola. Cuban troops are in Angola at the request of the legitimate government of Angola in order to protect it from overt and covert aggression mounted by the South African apartheid regime from Namibia. There is absolutely no international legal justification for South African aggression against Angola in order to maintain and consolidate its reprehensible occupation of Namibia. The Angolan government has repeatedly stated that when South Africa leaves Namibia it will request the withdrawal of Cuban troops, and Cuba has agreed to withdraw its troops whenever so requested by Angola. According to the relevant rules of international law, that is the proper sequence of events to be followed. The Reagan administration's "linkage" of the presence of the Cuban troops in Angola with the independence of Namibia encourages South African aggression against Angola, and thus it must share in the responsibility for South Africa's genocidal acts against the people of Angola. 20. Indian Ocean. The Reagan administration's continued military occupation of the island of Diego Garcia violates the international right of self-determination of the people of Mauritius as recognized by the United Nations Charter. The Reagan administration has accelerated the rapid militarization of the U.S. naval base on Diego Garcia as part of its plan to create a jumping-off point for intervention by the Rapid Deployment Force into the Persian Gulf. As such the Reagan administration 's foreign policy towards the Indian Ocean has violated the terms of the UN General Assembly's Declaration of the Indian Ocean as a Zone of Peace (1971). F. Conclusion 21. United Nations Action. From the foregoing, it is clear that the Reagan administration has substituted force for the rule of international law in its conduct of foreign policy around the world. It has thus created a serious threat to the maintenance of international peace and security under article 39 of the United Nations Charter that calls for the imposition of enforcement measures by the UN Security Council under articles 41 and 42. In the event the Reagan administration exercises its veto power against the adoption of such measures by the Security Council, the matter should be turned over the to UN General assembly for action in accordance with the procedures set forth in the Uniting for Peace Resolution of 1950. In this way the Reagan administration's grievous international transgressions could be effectively opposed by all members of the world community in a manner consistent with the requirements of international law. Both the Security Council and the General Assembly should also take into account the numerous interventionist measures taken by the Reagan Administration, whether direct or indirect, seeking to impose financial and economic policies which are contrary to the sovereign independence of states, especially in the developing world, and which severely damage the quality of life for all peoples. Farouk Abu-Eissa Mary Kaufman Francis A. Boyle, Chairman Jean-Claude Njem Hans Goeran Franck Alberto Ruiz-Eldredge Mirza Gholam Hafiz Muemlaz Soysal Brussels, Belgium 30 September 1984. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (voice) 217-244-1478 (fax) * To subscribe or unsubscribe or change your settings via the web, visit: http://olm.blythe-systems.com/mailman/listinfo/nytr ================================================================= NY Transfer News Collective * A Service of Blythe Systems Since 1985 - Information for the Rest of Us 339 Lafayette St., New York, NY 10012 http://www.blythe.org e-mail: nyt at blythe.org ============================================================= Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 1:24 PM To: Amanda Bass ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'Karen Aram' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'David Green' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas Subject: FW: FW: World Labor Hour Saturday August 27th Here is the link to our interview today. I want to thank David for putting giving me the Platform. As said on the program, WILL has blackballed me off there for years because of my support for the Palestinians. I have added Amanda Bass to this informal Killer Koh list. Amanda was a law student at NYU Law who had the courage, integrity and principles to oppose Killer Koh there despite substantial faculty and national legal opposition. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: David Johnson [mailto:davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 1:11 PM To: Boyle, Francis A >; Amanda Bass > Subject: RE: FW: World Labor Hour Saturday August 27th Yes, You can go to www.weft.org and download an audio copy from the archive for todays World Labor Hour broadcast. It was a real pleasure to finally meet you Francis, and you were fantastic on the radio today. David Johnson From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:59 PM To: Amanda Bass Cc: David Johnson Subject: RE: FW: World Labor Hour Saturday August 27th Thanks for your kind words. They were most appreciated. You can ask David Johnson at WEFT if he could be so kind as to post a link to the web—assuming it was recorded. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Amanda Bass [mailto:abass10 at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:50 PM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Re: FW: World Labor Hour Saturday August 27th Thanks so much for your courage and your witness. The law school's (and the faculty) response to your effort to bring awareness about Killer Koh's record and to contest his appearance this fall is horrendous. Unbelievable (but not surprising) that not a single member of the law school faculty has the courage or the human decency to stand in solidarity with you and against an obvious war criminal. Do you know if today's show will be posted online? I'd like to circulate it and to send it to Debra and Nick. Solidarity, Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Leuren Moret was scheduled to speak but had to withdrawal at the last minute.The conference can also be viewed on the Gary King YouTube channel and at NewsFollowUp.com and at the James Fetzer Blog Thank you,Steve Francis Francis Boyle, IntroductionStephen FrancisJames FetzerNick KollerstromSterling HarwoodDarrell HamamotoKevin McDonaldPreston JamesJames Fetzer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 29 22:17:40 2016 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 22:17:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Academic Freedom Conference II August 27, 2016 In-Reply-To: <1595444814.1540330.1472497217184@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1595444814.1540330.1472497217184.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1595444814.1540330.1472497217184@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1454474250.1771461.1472509060206@mail.yahoo.com> Stephen, I'm disappointed that Professor Boyle participated in this nonsense, and wish that you would keep these other trashy and vile individuals, including yourself, from polluting the peace-discuss list. Don't bother to respond. Just stop.David Green On Monday, August 29, 2016 2:04 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: We are pleased to announce the highly successful all-day online video conference that was held on Sat. the 27th of August.The Academic Freedom Conference II  Are there Limits to Inquiry? Should faculty be restrained from or even punished for investigating complex and controversial events of enormous political significance? The conference was held using the Zoom.us video conferencing system. We are very pleased with its performance and features. Leuren Moret was scheduled to speak but had to withdrawal at the last minute.The conference can also be viewed on the Gary King YouTube channel and at NewsFollowUp.com and at the James Fetzer Blog Thank you,Steve Francis Francis Boyle, IntroductionStephen FrancisJames FetzerNick KollerstromSterling HarwoodDarrell HamamotoKevin McDonaldPreston JamesJames Fetzer _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 29 22:53:52 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 22:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Academic Freedom Conference II August 27, 2016 In-Reply-To: <1454474250.1771461.1472509060206@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1595444814.1540330.1472497217184.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1595444814.1540330.1472497217184@mail.yahoo.com> <1454474250.1771461.1472509060206@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1794794486.1666301.1472511232528@mail.yahoo.com> We have solid science on our side of which you will never debate.All you offer now and ever are meaningless epithets.These ten videos have already have been seen by thousands just over the weekend.People, especially students are interested.The internet is awakening a storm of truth and science. On Monday, August 29, 2016 5:22 PM, David Green wrote: Stephen, I'm disappointed that Professor Boyle participated in this nonsense, and wish that you would keep these other trashy and vile individuals, including yourself, from polluting the peace-discuss list. Don't bother to respond. Just stop.David Green On Monday, August 29, 2016 2:04 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: We are pleased to announce the highly successful all-day online video conference that was held on Sat. the 27th of August.The Academic Freedom Conference II  Are there Limits to Inquiry? Should faculty be restrained from or even punished for investigating complex and controversial events of enormous political significance? The conference was held using the Zoom.us video conferencing system. We are very pleased with its performance and features. Leuren Moret was scheduled to speak but had to withdrawal at the last minute.The conference can also be viewed on the Gary King YouTube channel and at NewsFollowUp.com and at the James Fetzer Blog Thank you,Steve Francis Francis Boyle, IntroductionStephen FrancisJames FetzerNick KollerstromSterling HarwoodDarrell HamamotoKevin McDonaldPreston JamesJames Fetzer _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just stop.David Green On Monday, August 29, 2016 2:04 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: We are pleased to announce the highly successful all-day online video conference that was held on Sat. the 27th of August.The Academic Freedom Conference II  Are there Limits to Inquiry? Should faculty be restrained from or even punished for investigating complex and controversial events of enormous political significance? The conference was held using the Zoom.us video conferencing system. We are very pleased with its performance and features. Leuren Moret was scheduled to speak but had to withdrawal at the last minute.The conference can also be viewed on the Gary King YouTube channel and at NewsFollowUp.com and at the James Fetzer Blog Thank you,Steve Francis Francis Boyle, IntroductionStephen FrancisJames FetzerNick KollerstromSterling HarwoodDarrell HamamotoKevin McDonaldPreston JamesJames Fetzer _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Tue Aug 30 00:37:50 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:37:50 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Political Phonies In-Reply-To: <008601d2008f$c0f28bd0$42d7a370$@comcast.net> References: <1644221263.8582219.1472312751184.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <1296384183.8606339.1472314928959.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <008601d2008f$c0f28bd0$42d7a370$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Duckworth will also be a vote for more Obama-Clinton war. I could no more vote for her than for Kirk. There is (I think) still a Green candidate for Senate, but I haven’t seen much from him. > On Aug 27, 2016, at 1:20 PM, David Johnson wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > The Decatur television news program announced a visit by Senate candidate Tammy Duckworth that had already taken place. There was no rally, no inside news coverage, no ordinary voters invited, only the usual corporate palm greasing ceremony from one of America's sleaziest corporations; Archer Daniels Midland Company. > > The Duckworth campaign has reached out to IL activists for donations to her campaign and I was one of them who donated with the hope of getting rid of incumbent, Mark Kirk. I did not expect to be invited to meet Duckworth but an open forum with questions and answers would have went a long way for my continued support. If Duckworth's outreach for money and support is to be successful she needs to reach out to voters, supporters, and those she is suppose to represent. > > Her brief statement at the end of the meeting with the rich and devious said it all, and it was troubling. The gist of her remarks was slobbering on ADM and how "we need invest in corporations who provide good jobs". When you digest that comment, questions are raised. "Invest in corporations" is political doublespeak for massive tax breaks, ethanol subsidies, and allowing them to ignore playing by the rules. Share holders "invests" in ADM and rake in the gold for it. Decatur gets their pollution, their control over city government and the numerous deaths of employees through OSHA violations, not to mention constant labor turmoil due to ADM anti-union sentiments. Then there is the numerous black-eyes Decatur gets after ADM is embroiled in one corruption scandal after another. > > The national mantra that somehow we need to pay corporations to provide jobs is a subject that goes far beyond Duckworth. It is the mantra of the overwhelming majority on both sides of the aisle. How about "we provide the labor that produces the profits. The evil of this mantra has created the greatest disparity of wealth in US history and the greatest social divide. > > It is abundantly clear that Duckworth is in lockstep with the mantra and in her visit to Decatur she met with the only supporter that mattered to a seasoned corporate lacky. > > Mike Griffin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Monday, August 29, 2016 7:38 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Academic Freedom Conference II  August 27, 2016       (Stephen Francis)   2. Re: Political Phonies (C. G. Estabrook) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 23:02:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Stephen Francis To: David Green Cc: Peace-discuss List Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Academic Freedom Conference II  August     27, 2016 Message-ID: <1528534941.1780053.1472511750043 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" correction:I used the word have incorrectly. and I would like to add that we are very grateful to Professor Boyle for his courage in participating in this conference.     On Monday, August 29, 2016 5:22 PM, David Green wrote: Stephen, I'm disappointed that Professor Boyle participated in this nonsense, and wish that you would keep these other trashy and vile individuals, including yourself, from polluting the peace-discuss list. Don't bother to respond. Just stop.David Green     On Monday, August 29, 2016 2:04 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: We are pleased to announce the highly successful all-day online video conference that was held on Sat. the 27th of August.The Academic Freedom Conference II  Are there Limits to Inquiry? Should faculty be restrained from or even punished for investigating complex and controversial events of enormous political significance? The conference was held using the Zoom.us video conferencing system. We are very pleased with its performance and features. Leuren Moret was scheduled to speak but had to withdrawal at the last minute.The conference can also be viewed on the Gary King YouTube channel and at NewsFollowUp.com and at the James Fetzer Blog Thank you,Steve Francis Francis Boyle, IntroductionStephen FrancisJames FetzerNick KollerstromSterling HarwoodDarrell HamamotoKevin McDonaldPreston JamesJames Fetzer _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss     -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:37:50 -0500 From: "C. G. Estabrook" To: David Johnson Cc: Peace-discuss List Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Political Phonies Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Duckworth will also be a vote for more Obama-Clinton war.  I could no more vote for her than for Kirk. There is (I think) still a Green candidate for Senate, but I haven’t seen much from him. > On Aug 27, 2016, at 1:20 PM, David Johnson wrote: >  > Dear Friends, >  > The Decatur television news program announced a visit by Senate candidate Tammy Duckworth that had already taken place. There was no rally, no inside news coverage, no ordinary voters invited, only the usual corporate palm greasing ceremony from one of America's sleaziest corporations; Archer Daniels Midland Company.  >  > The Duckworth campaign has reached out to IL activists for donations to her campaign and I was one of them who donated with the hope of getting rid of incumbent, Mark Kirk. I did not expect to be invited to meet Duckworth but an open forum with questions and answers would have went a long way for my continued support. If Duckworth's outreach for money and support is to be successful she needs to reach out to voters, supporters, and those she is suppose to represent. >  > Her brief statement at the end of the meeting with the rich and devious said it all, and it was troubling. The gist of her remarks was slobbering on ADM and how "we need invest in corporations who provide good jobs".  When you digest that comment, questions are raised. "Invest in corporations" is political doublespeak for massive tax breaks, ethanol subsidies, and allowing them to ignore playing by the rules. Share holders "invests" in ADM and rake in the gold for it. Decatur gets their pollution, their control over city government and the numerous deaths of employees through OSHA violations, not to mention constant labor turmoil due to ADM anti-union sentiments. Then there is the numerous black-eyes Decatur gets after ADM is embroiled in one corruption scandal after another. >  > The national mantra that somehow we need to pay corporations to provide jobs is a subject that goes far beyond Duckworth.  It is the mantra of the overwhelming majority on both sides of the aisle. How about "we provide the labor that produces the profits.  The evil of this mantra has created the greatest disparity of wealth in US history and the greatest social divide. >  > It is abundantly clear that Duckworth is in lockstep with the mantra and in her visit to Decatur she met with the only supporter that mattered to a seasoned corporate lacky. >  > Mike Griffin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I omitted the word 'a' in a sentence.So I might as well add something...All my efforts go towards the promotion of peace, as in the name of the group 'peace-discuss' describes?I'm especially concerned about the treatment of the Palestinians. I much more anti-Zionist than pro Palestinian because I want to focus my efforts where the most problems exist. That would include the Jewish expulsions, Zionist activities in Nazi Germany, the 60 million people killed in the Jewish Communist revolution, the Holodomor, Middle East Wars, JFK assassination, AIPAC's control of Congress.  I'm sure there is something I left out. On Monday, August 29, 2016 7:38 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Academic Freedom Conference II  August 27, 2016       (Stephen Francis)   2. Re: Political Phonies (C. G. Estabrook) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 23:02:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Stephen Francis To: David Green Cc: Peace-discuss List Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Academic Freedom Conference II  August     27, 2016 Message-ID: <1528534941.1780053.1472511750043 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" correction:I used the word have incorrectly. and I would like to add that we are very grateful to Professor Boyle for his courage in participating in this conference.     On Monday, August 29, 2016 5:22 PM, David Green wrote: Stephen, I'm disappointed that Professor Boyle participated in this nonsense, and wish that you would keep these other trashy and vile individuals, including yourself, from polluting the peace-discuss list. Don't bother to respond. Just stop.David Green     On Monday, August 29, 2016 2:04 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: We are pleased to announce the highly successful all-day online video conference that was held on Sat. the 27th of August.The Academic Freedom Conference II  Are there Limits to Inquiry? Should faculty be restrained from or even punished for investigating complex and controversial events of enormous political significance? The conference was held using the Zoom.us video conferencing system. We are very pleased with its performance and features. Leuren Moret was scheduled to speak but had to withdrawal at the last minute.The conference can also be viewed on the Gary King YouTube channel and at NewsFollowUp.com and at the James Fetzer Blog Thank you,Steve Francis Francis Boyle, IntroductionStephen FrancisJames FetzerNick KollerstromSterling HarwoodDarrell HamamotoKevin McDonaldPreston JamesJames Fetzer _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss     -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:37:50 -0500 From: "C. G. Estabrook" To: David Johnson Cc: Peace-discuss List Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Political Phonies Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Duckworth will also be a vote for more Obama-Clinton war.  I could no more vote for her than for Kirk. There is (I think) still a Green candidate for Senate, but I haven’t seen much from him. > On Aug 27, 2016, at 1:20 PM, David Johnson wrote: >  > Dear Friends, >  > The Decatur television news program announced a visit by Senate candidate Tammy Duckworth that had already taken place. There was no rally, no inside news coverage, no ordinary voters invited, only the usual corporate palm greasing ceremony from one of America's sleaziest corporations; Archer Daniels Midland Company.  >  > The Duckworth campaign has reached out to IL activists for donations to her campaign and I was one of them who donated with the hope of getting rid of incumbent, Mark Kirk. I did not expect to be invited to meet Duckworth but an open forum with questions and answers would have went a long way for my continued support. If Duckworth's outreach for money and support is to be successful she needs to reach out to voters, supporters, and those she is suppose to represent. >  > Her brief statement at the end of the meeting with the rich and devious said it all, and it was troubling. The gist of her remarks was slobbering on ADM and how "we need invest in corporations who provide good jobs".  When you digest that comment, questions are raised. "Invest in corporations" is political doublespeak for massive tax breaks, ethanol subsidies, and allowing them to ignore playing by the rules. Share holders "invests" in ADM and rake in the gold for it. Decatur gets their pollution, their control over city government and the numerous deaths of employees through OSHA violations, not to mention constant labor turmoil due to ADM anti-union sentiments. Then there is the numerous black-eyes Decatur gets after ADM is embroiled in one corruption scandal after another. >  > The national mantra that somehow we need to pay corporations to provide jobs is a subject that goes far beyond Duckworth.  It is the mantra of the overwhelming majority on both sides of the aisle. How about "we provide the labor that produces the profits.  The evil of this mantra has created the greatest disparity of wealth in US history and the greatest social divide. >  > It is abundantly clear that Duckworth is in lockstep with the mantra and in her visit to Decatur she met with the only supporter that mattered to a seasoned corporate lacky. >  > Mike Griffin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 30 00:58:11 2016 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 00:58:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Political Phonies In-Reply-To: References: <1644221263.8582219.1472312751184.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <1296384183.8606339.1472314928959.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <008601d2008f$c0f28bd0$42d7a370$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <215781740.1862893.1472518691431@mail.yahoo.com> Hopefully the Green Party candidate for U.S. Senate, a decent guy named Scott Summers, will be speaking locally later next month or in early October. On Monday, August 29, 2016 7:38 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote: Duckworth will also be a vote for more Obama-Clinton war.  I could no more vote for her than for Kirk. There is (I think) still a Green candidate for Senate, but I haven’t seen much from him. On Aug 27, 2016, at 1:20 PM, David Johnson wrote: Dear Friends, The Decatur television news program announced a visit by Senate candidate Tammy Duckworth that had already taken place. There was no rally, no inside news coverage, no ordinary voters invited, only the usual corporate palm greasing ceremony from one of America's sleaziest corporations; Archer Daniels Midland Company.   The Duckworth campaign has reached out to IL activists for donations to her campaign and I was one of them who donated with the hope of getting rid of incumbent, Mark Kirk. I did not expect to be invited to meet Duckworth but an open forum with questions and answers would have went a long way for my continued support. If Duckworth's outreach for money and support is to be successful she needs to reach out to voters, supporters, and those she is suppose to represent. Her brief statement at the end of the meeting with the rich and devious said it all, and it was troubling. The gist of her remarks was slobbering on ADM and how "we need invest in corporations who provide good jobs".  When you digest that comment, questions are raised. "Invest in corporations" is political doublespeak for massive tax breaks, ethanol subsidies, and allowing them to ignore playing by the rules. Share holders "invests" in ADM and rake in the gold for it. Decatur gets their pollution, their control over city government and the numerous deaths of employees through OSHA violations, not to mention constant labor turmoil due to ADM anti-union sentiments. Then there is the numerous black-eyes Decatur gets after ADM is embroiled in one corruption scandal after another. The national mantra that somehow we need to pay corporations to provide jobs is a subject that goes far beyond Duckworth.  It is the mantra of the overwhelming majority on both sides of the aisle. How about "we provide the labor that produces the profits.  The evil of this mantra has created the greatest disparity of wealth in US history and the greatest social divide. It is abundantly clear that Duckworth is in lockstep with the mantra and in her visit to Decatur she met with the only supporter that mattered to a seasoned corporate lacky. Mike Griffin _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 30 01:12:45 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 01:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 151, Issue 25 In-Reply-To: <2049280184.1644746.1472518786459@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2049280184.1644746.1472518786459@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <667028577.1743589.1472519565823@mail.yahoo.com> Shoot... my apologies... I can't believe I left out 9/11 and the Jewish domination of bulge bracket banks that gave us the wonderful recession in 2008.  They were fined over $100 billion dollars and put the tab on the American taxpayers through very crafty legal maneuvers.... that takes real skill.... and none went to jail... amazing.I hope I'm finished. Wish me luck. On Monday, August 29, 2016 7:59 PM, Stephen Francis wrote: oops another correction... I omitted the word 'a' in a sentence.So I might as well add something...All my efforts go towards the promotion of peace, as in the name of the group 'peace-discuss' describes?I'm especially concerned about the treatment of the Palestinians. I much more anti-Zionist than pro Palestinian because I want to focus my efforts where the most problems exist. That would include the Jewish expulsions, Zionist activities in Nazi Germany, the 60 million people killed in the Jewish Communist revolution, the Holodomor, Middle East Wars, JFK assassination, AIPAC's control of Congress.  I'm sure there is something I left out. On Monday, August 29, 2016 7:38 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Academic Freedom Conference II  August 27, 2016       (Stephen Francis)   2. Re: Political Phonies (C. G. Estabrook) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 23:02:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Stephen Francis To: David Green Cc: Peace-discuss List Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Academic Freedom Conference II  August     27, 2016 Message-ID: <1528534941.1780053.1472511750043 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" correction:I used the word have incorrectly. and I would like to add that we are very grateful to Professor Boyle for his courage in participating in this conference.     On Monday, August 29, 2016 5:22 PM, David Green wrote: Stephen, I'm disappointed that Professor Boyle participated in this nonsense, and wish that you would keep these other trashy and vile individuals, including yourself, from polluting the peace-discuss list. Don't bother to respond. Just stop.David Green     On Monday, August 29, 2016 2:04 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: We are pleased to announce the highly successful all-day online video conference that was held on Sat. the 27th of August.The Academic Freedom Conference II  Are there Limits to Inquiry? Should faculty be restrained from or even punished for investigating complex and controversial events of enormous political significance? The conference was held using the Zoom.us video conferencing system. We are very pleased with its performance and features. Leuren Moret was scheduled to speak but had to withdrawal at the last minute.The conference can also be viewed on the Gary King YouTube channel and at NewsFollowUp.com and at the James Fetzer Blog Thank you,Steve Francis Francis Boyle, IntroductionStephen FrancisJames FetzerNick KollerstromSterling HarwoodDarrell HamamotoKevin McDonaldPreston JamesJames Fetzer _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss     -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:37:50 -0500 From: "C. G. Estabrook" To: David Johnson Cc: Peace-discuss List Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Political Phonies Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Duckworth will also be a vote for more Obama-Clinton war.  I could no more vote for her than for Kirk. There is (I think) still a Green candidate for Senate, but I haven’t seen much from him. > On Aug 27, 2016, at 1:20 PM, David Johnson wrote: >  > Dear Friends, >  > The Decatur television news program announced a visit by Senate candidate Tammy Duckworth that had already taken place. There was no rally, no inside news coverage, no ordinary voters invited, only the usual corporate palm greasing ceremony from one of America's sleaziest corporations; Archer Daniels Midland Company.  >  > The Duckworth campaign has reached out to IL activists for donations to her campaign and I was one of them who donated with the hope of getting rid of incumbent, Mark Kirk. I did not expect to be invited to meet Duckworth but an open forum with questions and answers would have went a long way for my continued support. If Duckworth's outreach for money and support is to be successful she needs to reach out to voters, supporters, and those she is suppose to represent. >  > Her brief statement at the end of the meeting with the rich and devious said it all, and it was troubling. The gist of her remarks was slobbering on ADM and how "we need invest in corporations who provide good jobs".  When you digest that comment, questions are raised. "Invest in corporations" is political doublespeak for massive tax breaks, ethanol subsidies, and allowing them to ignore playing by the rules. Share holders "invests" in ADM and rake in the gold for it. Decatur gets their pollution, their control over city government and the numerous deaths of employees through OSHA violations, not to mention constant labor turmoil due to ADM anti-union sentiments. Then there is the numerous black-eyes Decatur gets after ADM is embroiled in one corruption scandal after another. >  > The national mantra that somehow we need to pay corporations to provide jobs is a subject that goes far beyond Duckworth.  It is the mantra of the overwhelming majority on both sides of the aisle. How about "we provide the labor that produces the profits.  The evil of this mantra has created the greatest disparity of wealth in US history and the greatest social divide. >  > It is abundantly clear that Duckworth is in lockstep with the mantra and in her visit to Decatur she met with the only supporter that mattered to a seasoned corporate lacky. >  > Mike Griffin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Estabrook) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 20:53:17 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Political Phonies In-Reply-To: <215781740.1862893.1472518691431@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1644221263.8582219.1472312751184.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <1296384183.8606339.1472314928959.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <008601d2008f$c0f28bd0$42d7a370$@comcast.net> <215781740.1862893.1472518691431@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0F404753-2E75-4BCC-A29F-E37E4CC1CF38@newsfromneptune.com> We should support him to counter the neoliberal/neocon/Clintonoid support for Duckworth. > On Aug 29, 2016, at 7:58 PM, David Green wrote: > > Hopefully the Green Party candidate for U.S. Senate, a decent guy named Scott Summers, will be speaking locally later next month or in early October. > > > On Monday, August 29, 2016 7:38 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > Duckworth will also be a vote for more Obama-Clinton war. I could no more vote for her than for Kirk. > > There is (I think) still a Green candidate for Senate, but I haven’t seen much from him. > > >> On Aug 27, 2016, at 1:20 PM, David Johnson wrote: >> >> Dear Friends, >> >> The Decatur television news program announced a visit by Senate candidate Tammy Duckworth that had already taken place. There was no rally, no inside news coverage, no ordinary voters invited, only the usual corporate palm greasing ceremony from one of America's sleaziest corporations; Archer Daniels Midland Company. >> >> The Duckworth campaign has reached out to IL activists for donations to her campaign and I was one of them who donated with the hope of getting rid of incumbent, Mark Kirk. I did not expect to be invited to meet Duckworth but an open forum with questions and answers would have went a long way for my continued support. If Duckworth's outreach for money and support is to be successful she needs to reach out to voters, supporters, and those she is suppose to represent. >> >> Her brief statement at the end of the meeting with the rich and devious said it all, and it was troubling. The gist of her remarks was slobbering on ADM and how "we need invest in corporations who provide good jobs". When you digest that comment, questions are raised. "Invest in corporations" is political doublespeak for massive tax breaks, ethanol subsidies, and allowing them to ignore playing by the rules. Share holders "invests" in ADM and rake in the gold for it. Decatur gets their pollution, their control over city government and the numerous deaths of employees through OSHA violations, not to mention constant labor turmoil due to ADM anti-union sentiments. Then there is the numerous black-eyes Decatur gets after ADM is embroiled in one corruption scandal after another. >> >> The national mantra that somehow we need to pay corporations to provide jobs is a subject that goes far beyond Duckworth. It is the mantra of the overwhelming majority on both sides of the aisle. How about "we provide the labor that produces the profits. The evil of this mantra has created the greatest disparity of wealth in US history and the greatest social divide. >> >> It is abundantly clear that Duckworth is in lockstep with the mantra and in her visit to Decatur she met with the only supporter that mattered to a seasoned corporate lacky. >> >> Mike Griffin > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > From rwhelbig at gmail.com Tue Aug 30 05:02:11 2016 From: rwhelbig at gmail.com (Roger Helbig) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 22:02:11 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Academic Freedom Conference II August 27, 2016 In-Reply-To: <1794794486.1666301.1472511232528@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1595444814.1540330.1472497217184.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1595444814.1540330.1472497217184@mail.yahoo.com> <1454474250.1771461.1472509060206@mail.yahoo.com> <1794794486.1666301.1472511232528@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Stephen, When you put Leuren K Moret on your program, you lost all sense of academic anything. Moret is a total phony. She claims to be an expert on depleted uranium, has spoken at 9/11 events and now is on Fukushima. She claims that Fukushima resulted from tectonic warfare caused by the HAARP research facility at the University of Alaska. Nice to see what her latest scheme is. I personally know her to be a very accomplished liar. One of her lies was that she had gotten me kicked out a bookstore that I never had been in. She also was dragged out of the internet by my next door neighbor along with her and Douglas Lind Rokke's mouthpiece Bob Nichols to be witnesses in a Small Claims Court case by my neighbor Jamal Fares. That case got falsely cited as being in Richardson, California, a non-existent city by another colleague of Moret and Chris Busby in the UK, Felicity Arbuthnot. Leuren K Moret has a BS in Geology from the University of California at Davis. Moret is not known to have worked as a geologist or having taught at any level. Moret was employed as the part-time secretary of a now-deceased prominent professor of Geology at the University of California. She needed extra money and he arranged for Moret to operate the newly acquired Differential Scanning Calorimeter for his laboratory which was physically located in the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory complex. Moret has claimed employment by the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, but she worked for Professor Ian Carmichael, not for LBL. Later Moret was briefly employed as a Senior Scientific Technician, not as a scientist, at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory's Center for Applied Scientific Computing. Moret has no published original research. Moret was given co-author credit by two of Professor Campbell's doctoral students, both of whom went on to Chair Geology Departments at major universities because her recorded observations using the Differential Scanning Calorimeter were essential to their doctoral research. You will find no other scientific research papers under Moret's name. She is a con artist and people like the 9/11 Truthers are easily conned. They have being conned for almost fifteen years now. If anyone would like to contact me personally, I can send you some of the documents I have obtained concerning Moret. I have posted some of them to the Internet Archive, where I have also posted documents I obtained using the Freedom of Information Act for Douglas Lind Rokke of nearby Urbana. See http://www.archive.org/details/LeurenKMoret-RealJobAtLawrenceLivermoreNationalLaboratory When Moret spoke at the 9/11 Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, she falsely claimed to have seen the claw like hands of the late Nobel Laureate Doctor Glenn T Seaborg, but the video of that speech seems to have vanished from the internet. I rather wonder what happened to it since I have previously cited this totally fabricated malicious slander against the discoverer of Plutonium. Moret claimed that Dr Seaborg used to carry a cube of Plutonium in his pocket and constantly finger it which turned his hands into claws. I think I may have a copy of this video, but no longer can find it on the internet. Even 9/11 Truthers at this conference questioned what Moret had to say. Nice to see that she still is employed spreading lies about anything that people will pay for to hear. Roger Helbig On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss < peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > We have solid science on our side of which you will never debate. > All you offer now and ever are meaningless epithets. > These ten videos have already have been seen by thousands just over the > weekend. > People, especially students are interested. > The internet is awakening a storm of truth and science. > > > On Monday, August 29, 2016 5:22 PM, David Green > wrote: > > > Stephen, I'm disappointed that Professor Boyle participated in this > nonsense, and wish that you would keep these other trashy and vile > individuals, including yourself, from polluting the peace-discuss list. > Don't bother to respond. Just stop. > David Green > > > On Monday, August 29, 2016 2:04 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > > > We are pleased to announce the highly successful all-day online video > conference > that > was held on Sat. the 27th of August. > The Academic Freedom Conference II > Are > there Limits to Inquiry? Should faculty be restrained from or even > punished for investigating complex and controversial events of enormous > political significance? > > [image: afc2] > The conference was held using the Zoom.us video conferencing system. We > are very pleased with its performance and features. Leuren Moret was > scheduled to speak but had to withdrawal at the last minute. > The conference can also be viewed on the Gary King YouTube channel > and at > NewsFollowUp.com > and > at the James Fetzer Blog > > > Thank you, > Steve Francis > > > > Francis Boyle > > , Introduction > > Stephen Francis > > James Fetzer > > Nick Kollerstrom > > Sterling Harwood > > Darrell Hamamoto > > Kevin McDonald > > Preston James > > James Fetzer > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 30 07:10:57 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 07:10:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Academic Freedom Conference II August 27, 2016 In-Reply-To: References: <1595444814.1540330.1472497217184.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1595444814.1540330.1472497217184@mail.yahoo.com> <1454474250.1771461.1472509060206@mail.yahoo.com> <1794794486.1666301.1472511232528@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1007944880.1824982.1472541057779@mail.yahoo.com> Over two hundred million people were killed in utterly unnecessary cooked-up wars in the 20th Century (Pearl Harbor has been exposed as a lie to get the US into WWII), Jewish/Neocon fingerprints are all over those wars beginning with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, Treaty of Versailles, the 'A Clean Break' document by the Project of a New American Century, Patriot Act, The Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, (Financial Services Modernization Act) written by bulge bracket Jewish bankers that led to the Great Recession that we are still suffering from, Open Immigration Law Of 1965 (Jacob Javitz) Cultural Marxism at its finest, all Chairs of the Federal Reserve since the 1980s were/are Jewish. Look at the financial mess we are in now because of monetary manipulation by the Fed.  The Jewish/Neocon drive for war against Russia/expansion of NATO eastward is criminal deception. ISIS and al Queda have been completely exposed as Jewish/Saudi/US/British constructs.  Hillary Clinton/Obama policies led to the deliberate murder of Gaddafi in a cooked-up fraudulent war. Israel deliberately targets children in its ethnic cleansing of Palestine.  This is supposed to be a Peace-Discuss group.  Why are these and many other related issues never discussed? The answer is obvious. It would offend the local Jewish power structure on the UofI campus, where there is no such thing as academic freedom.  Any academic broaching any of these subjects would find their career destroyed.  On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:02 AM, Roger Helbig wrote: Stephen,  When you put Leuren K Moret on your program, you lost all sense of academic anything.  Moret is a total phony.  She claims to be an expert on depleted uranium, has spoken at 9/11 events and now is on Fukushima.  She claims that Fukushima resulted from tectonic warfare caused by the HAARP research facility at the University of Alaska.  Nice to see what her latest scheme is.  I personally know her to be a very accomplished liar.  One of her lies was that she had gotten me kicked out a bookstore that I never had been in.  She also was dragged out of the internet by my next door neighbor along with her and Douglas Lind Rokke's mouthpiece Bob Nichols to be witnesses in a Small Claims Court case by my neighbor Jamal Fares.  That case got falsely cited as being in Richardson, California, a non-existent city by another colleague of Moret and Chris Busby in the UK, Felicity Arbuthnot.   Leuren K Moret has a BS in Geology from the University of California at Davis.  Moret is not known to have worked as a geologist or having taught at any level.  Moret was employed as the part-time secretary of a now-deceased prominent professor of Geology at the University of California.  She needed extra money and he arranged for Moret to operate the newly acquired Differential Scanning Calorimeter for his laboratory which was physically located in the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory complex.  Moret has claimed employment by the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, but she worked for Professor Ian Carmichael, not for LBL.  Later Moret was briefly employed as a Senior Scientific Technician, not as a scientist, at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory's Center for Applied Scientific Computing.  Moret has no published original research.  Moret was given co-author credit by two of Professor Campbell's doctoral students, both of whom went on to Chair Geology Departments at major universities because her recorded observations using the Differential Scanning Calorimeter were essential to their doctoral research.  You will find no other scientific research papers under Moret's name.  She is a con artist and people like the 9/11 Truthers are easily conned.  They have being conned for almost fifteen years now. If anyone would like to contact me personally, I can send you some of the documents I have obtained concerning Moret.  I have posted some of them to the Internet Archive, where I have also posted documents I obtained using the Freedom of Information Act for Douglas Lind Rokke of nearby Urbana. See http://www.archive.org/details/LeurenKMoret-RealJobAtLawrenceLivermoreNationalLaboratory When Moret spoke at the 9/11 Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, she falsely claimed to have seen the claw like hands of the late Nobel Laureate Doctor Glenn T Seaborg, but the video of that speech seems to have vanished from the internet.  I rather wonder what happened to it since I have previously cited this totally fabricated malicious slander against the discoverer of Plutonium.  Moret claimed that Dr Seaborg used to carry a cube of Plutonium in his pocket and constantly finger it which turned his hands into claws.  I think I may have a copy of this video, but no longer can find it on the internet.  Even 9/11 Truthers at this conference questioned what Moret had to say.  Nice to see that she still is employed spreading lies about anything that people will pay for to hear. Roger Helbig On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: We have solid science on our side of which you will never debate.All you offer now and ever are meaningless epithets.These ten videos have already have been seen by thousands just over the weekend.People, especially students are interested.The internet is awakening a storm of truth and science. On Monday, August 29, 2016 5:22 PM, David Green wrote: Stephen, I'm disappointed that Professor Boyle participated in this nonsense, and wish that you would keep these other trashy and vile individuals, including yourself, from polluting the peace-discuss list. Don't bother to respond. Just stop.David Green On Monday, August 29, 2016 2:04 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: We are pleased to announce the highly successful all-day online video conference that was held on Sat. the 27th of August.The Academic Freedom Conference II  Are there Limits to Inquiry? Should faculty be restrained from or even punished for investigating complex and controversial events of enormous political significance? The conference was held using the Zoom.us video conferencing system. We are very pleased with its performance and features. Leuren Moret was scheduled to speak but had to withdrawal at the last minute.The conference can also be viewed on the Gary King YouTube channel and at NewsFollowUp.com and at the James Fetzer Blog Thank you,Steve Francis Francis Boyle, IntroductionStephen FrancisJames FetzerNick KollerstromSterling HarwoodDarrell HamamotoKevin McDonaldPreston JamesJames Fetzer ______________________________ _________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana. net https://lists.chambana.net/ mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss ______________________________ _________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana. net https://lists.chambana.net/ mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Tue Aug 30 07:20:59 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 02:20:59 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Proposed flyer (unformatted) for AWARE demo Sat. 3 Sept., 2-4pm Message-ID: <1DFA5981-D2F4-4B0C-A588-A1D9E6406E5D@newsfromneptune.com> A.W.A.R.E. The Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana The U.S. government is waging illegal wars around the world and secretly twisting the international economy via ‘trade pacts’ (TPP, TTIP) for the benefit of less than 1% of the U.S. population. Join our demonstration the first Saturday of every month, at the intersection of Church and Neil in Champaign, 2-4pm Meet with us Saturdays at the Urbana Farmers’ Market (Lincoln Square) for books, bumper stickers, literature, and conversation Watch our weekly Urbana Public Television (channel 6) program “AWARE on the Air” (also on YouTube), and/or join us at noon Tuesdays in the Urbana City Council Chambers for the live unrehearsed recordings We meet Sundays at 5pm at Pizza M, 208 W. Main St., Urbana; new members welcome: for information write us at > *** President Obama is making war in eight countries; he is sending U.S. ‘special forces’ into more than half the world’s countries - to kidnap, torture, and kill ‘bad guys’; he has assassinated thousands by drone - the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times - including US citizens; and he is provoking war with Russia and China. Contact the president (202-456-1111) and our representatives in Congress (202-224-3121): tell them to end the wars and drone attacks, cut military spending by at least half, bring the troops home, and close the U.S. military’s 1,000 foreign bases; stop U.S. support for - and arms sales to - human rights abusers like Israel, and lead on global nuclear disarmament. President Barack Obama - Senator Dick Durbin - Senator Mark Kirk - Representative Rodney Davis - ================================================ President Obama is Killing People in the Mideast and Should Stop When the new president (probably Hillary Clinton) is inaugurated next January, Barack Obama will have become the first US president - ever - to have been at war throughout two presidential terms. His greatest talent seems to be his ability to distract Americans from what he’s doing. He has attacked eight countries - two more than George Bush - and is today conducting what has been called “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - his drone assassinations. He has killed thousands of civilians, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children, with drones. The New York Times says he chooses the targets himself, from lists prepared by the CIA. In a book on the last presidential campaign, he is quoted as follows: "'Turns out I'm really good at killing people,' Obama said quietly. 'Didn't know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.'" However ironically he meant it, the quote has not been denied by the White House, and it turns out to be true. In addition to conducting wars throughout the Mideast, the Obama administration is acting with belligerence toward China, and promoting an ongoing proxy war against Russia in Ukraine, which has already killed more people than Israel killed (with US permission) in Gaza in 2014. He is risking war in both places, even nuclear war. The president also commands through the National Security Council a 70,000-member private army, the Special Operations Command, active in half the countries of the world. Their operations include kidnapping ("rendition"), murder and torture. Hillary Clinton, responsible for horrors in Honduras, Libya, Syria and elsewhere, as president would only continue and intensify the warmongering of recent administrations, the blowback from which is now producing terrorist attacks in Europe and America. Syria. The Obama administration is responsible for the vicious civil war in Syria that has killed thousands and flooded Europe with refugees. The disclosure by former US intelligence chief Lt. General Michael Flynn that the Obama administration was well aware from as early as 2012 that its covert support to anti-government militants in Syria was fomenting jihadist terrorism was a rare moment of honesty. Obama’s Secretary of State at that crucial time was Hillary Clinton. In that regard, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is right to say that Obama and Clinton “created” Islamic State and other related jihadist terrorist groups. [F. Cunningham] Yemen. One of the poorest countries in the world, Yemen is being destroyed by Saudi Arabia, with the active support of the Obama administration. Saudi Arabia, one of the two chief clients of the US in the Mideast (the other is Israel) has been bombing and shelling Yemen for 16 months. The UN puts the civilian death toll at 3700, but it is probably much higher. This rain of destruction was made possible by the material and moral support of the United States, which supplied most of the bombers, bombs, and missiles required for the aerial onslaught. Saudi Arabia is a major contributor to the Clinton Foundation. The Mideast has been a particular concern of all recent presidential administrations because of its vast stock of oil and natural gas. In the last two generations, US executive branch leaders have killed, wounded and made homeless well over 20 million human beings, many in the Mideast, in order to control those resources. The US doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the US a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries; that control benefits only the American economic elite - the one percent - and not Americans in general, who’ve seen wealth concentrate in fewer and fewer hands at an accelerating rate throughout the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations. President Obama has fallen in with this pattern and extended it through two terms. Every indications is that these crimes will continue in the new administration, unless Americans demand that they cease. A.W.A.R.E. - The Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana {For citations, questions, or comments on this flyer, contact>} ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Aug 30 11:21:58 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 11:21:58 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Proposed flyer (unformatted) for AWARE demo Sat. 3 Sept., 2-4pm In-Reply-To: <1DFA5981-D2F4-4B0C-A588-A1D9E6406E5D@newsfromneptune.com> References: <1DFA5981-D2F4-4B0C-A588-A1D9E6406E5D@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: This gives the impression that Obama is waging war all on his own, as if he is an all powerful King, without support from the administration, military, foreign policy advisors, corporate elites and Congress. Given the lack of concern or dissent coming from members of the government, who are well informed, one must hold them accountable as well. The impression that replacement of a leader might bring about change in foreign policy is misleading.The US government is making war in eight countries and likely will do so no matter who is elected President, unless the American people rise up against these crimes against humanity. This will only be accomplished through mass movements, not at the electoral box which has already been rigged. The American people need to get angry at our government, and not assume there is hope for change if only the "right person" is placed in the White House. The problem is not one person/one leader but a system controlled by the 1% elite who profit from trade pacts, the proliferation of wars, and control of other nations resources. On Aug 30, 2016, at 00:20, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > wrote: A.W.A.R.E. The Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana The U.S. government is waging illegal wars around the world and secretly twisting the international economy via ‘trade pacts’ (TPP, TTIP) for the benefit of less than 1% of the U.S. population. Join our demonstration the first Saturday of every month, at the intersection of Church and Neil in Champaign, 2-4pm Meet with us Saturdays at the Urbana Farmers’ Market (Lincoln Square) for books, bumper stickers, literature, and conversation Watch our weekly Urbana Public Television (channel 6) program “AWARE on the Air” (also on YouTube), and/or join us at noon Tuesdays in the Urbana City Council Chambers for the live unrehearsed recordings We meet Sundays at 5pm at Pizza M, 208 W. Main St., Urbana; new members welcome: for information write us at > *** President Obama is making war in eight countries; he is sending U.S. ‘special forces’ into more than half the world’s countries - to kidnap, torture, and kill ‘bad guys’; he has assassinated thousands by drone - the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times - including US citizens; and he is provoking war with Russia and China. Contact the president (202-456-1111) and our representatives in Congress (202-224-3121): tell them to end the wars and drone attacks, cut military spending by at least half, bring the troops home, and close the U.S. military’s 1,000 foreign bases; stop U.S. support for - and arms sales to - human rights abusers like Israel, and lead on global nuclear disarmament. President Barack Obama - Senator Dick Durbin - Senator Mark Kirk - Representative Rodney Davis - ================================================ President Obama is Killing People in the Mideast and Should Stop When the new president (probably Hillary Clinton) is inaugurated next January, Barack Obama will have become the first US president - ever - to have been at war throughout two presidential terms. His greatest talent seems to be his ability to distract Americans from what he’s doing. He has attacked eight countries - two more than George Bush - and is today conducting what has been called “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - his drone assassinations. He has killed thousands of civilians, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children, with drones. The New York Times says he chooses the targets himself, from lists prepared by the CIA. In a book on the last presidential campaign, he is quoted as follows: "'Turns out I'm really good at killing people,' Obama said quietly. 'Didn't know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.'" However ironically he meant it, the quote has not been denied by the White House, and it turns out to be true. In addition to conducting wars throughout the Mideast, the Obama administration is acting with belligerence toward China, and promoting an ongoing proxy war against Russia in Ukraine, which has already killed more people than Israel killed (with US permission) in Gaza in 2014. He is risking war in both places, even nuclear war. The president also commands through the National Security Council a 70,000-member private army, the Special Operations Command, active in half the countries of the world. Their operations include kidnapping ("rendition"), murder and torture. Hillary Clinton, responsible for horrors in Honduras, Libya, Syria and elsewhere, as president would only continue and intensify the warmongering of recent administrations, the blowback from which is now producing terrorist attacks in Europe and America. Syria. The Obama administration is responsible for the vicious civil war in Syria that has killed thousands and flooded Europe with refugees. The disclosure by former US intelligence chief Lt. General Michael Flynn that the Obama administration was well aware from as early as 2012 that its covert support to anti-government militants in Syria was fomenting jihadist terrorism was a rare moment of honesty. Obama’s Secretary of State at that crucial time was Hillary Clinton. In that regard, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is right to say that Obama and Clinton “created” Islamic State and other related jihadist terrorist groups. [F. Cunningham] Yemen. One of the poorest countries in the world, Yemen is being destroyed by Saudi Arabia, with the active support of the Obama administration. Saudi Arabia, one of the two chief clients of the US in the Mideast (the other is Israel) has been bombing and shelling Yemen for 16 months. The UN puts the civilian death toll at 3700, but it is probably much higher. This rain of destruction was made possible by the material and moral support of the United States, which supplied most of the bombers, bombs, and missiles required for the aerial onslaught. Saudi Arabia is a major contributor to the Clinton Foundation. The Mideast has been a particular concern of all recent presidential administrations because of its vast stock of oil and natural gas. In the last two generations, US executive branch leaders have killed, wounded and made homeless well over 20 million human beings, many in the Mideast, in order to control those resources. The US doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the US a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries; that control benefits only the American economic elite - the one percent - and not Americans in general, who’ve seen wealth concentrate in fewer and fewer hands at an accelerating rate throughout the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations. President Obama has fallen in with this pattern and extended it through two terms. Every indications is that these crimes will continue in the new administration, unless Americans demand that they cease. A.W.A.R.E. - The Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana {For citations, questions, or comments on this flyer, contact>} ### _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 30 13:12:39 2016 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:12:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Academic Freedom Conference II August 27, 2016 In-Reply-To: References: <1595444814.1540330.1472497217184.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1595444814.1540330.1472497217184@mail.yahoo.com> <1454474250.1771461.1472509060206@mail.yahoo.com> <1794794486.1666301.1472511232528@mail.yahoo.com> <1007944880.1824982.1472541057779@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <544238708.2103415.1472562759546@mail.yahoo.com> Let's take these issues off the peace list. You two can have at each other privately. This has nothing to do with peace. On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:14 AM, Roger Helbig wrote: Stephen,  Did you intend to actually say something or just see how many words you could use before you did it - glad to note that Moret never participated in your conference - am very curious who invited Moret - and why they decided that she was not really going to be on after all - she is a consumate liar - I expect that most of the rest like Fetzer are as well - he invited both Moret and Rokke to event in Wisconsin some years ago. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:10 AM, Stephen Francis wrote: Over two hundred million people were killed in utterly unnecessary cooked-up wars in the 20th Century (Pearl Harbor has been exposed as a lie to get the US into WWII), Jewish/Neocon fingerprints are all over those wars beginning with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, Treaty of Versailles, the 'A Clean Break' document by the Project of a New American Century, Patriot Act, The Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, (Financial Services Modernization Act) written by bulge bracket Jewish bankers that led to the Great Recession that we are still suffering from, Open Immigration Law Of 1965 (Jacob Javitz) Cultural Marxism at its finest, all Chairs of the Federal Reserve since the 1980s were/are Jewish. Look at the financial mess we are in now because of monetary manipulation by the Fed.  The Jewish/Neocon drive for war against Russia/expansion of NATO eastward is criminal deception. ISIS and al Queda have been completely exposed as Jewish/Saudi/US/British constructs.  Hillary Clinton/Obama policies led to the deliberate murder of Gaddafi in a cooked-up fraudulent war. Israel deliberately targets children in its ethnic cleansing of Palestine.  This is supposed to be a Peace-Discuss group.  Why are these and many other related issues never discussed? The answer is obvious. It would offend the local Jewish power structure on the UofI campus, where there is no such thing as academic freedom.  Any academic broaching any of these subjects would find their career destroyed.  On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:02 AM, Roger Helbig wrote: Stephen,  When you put Leuren K Moret on your program, you lost all sense of academic anything.  Moret is a total phony.  She claims to be an expert on depleted uranium, has spoken at 9/11 events and now is on Fukushima.  She claims that Fukushima resulted from tectonic warfare caused by the HAARP research facility at the University of Alaska.  Nice to see what her latest scheme is.  I personally know her to be a very accomplished liar.  One of her lies was that she had gotten me kicked out a bookstore that I never had been in.  She also was dragged out of the internet by my next door neighbor along with her and Douglas Lind Rokke's mouthpiece Bob Nichols to be witnesses in a Small Claims Court case by my neighbor Jamal Fares.  That case got falsely cited as being in Richardson, California, a non-existent city by another colleague of Moret and Chris Busby in the UK, Felicity Arbuthnot.   Leuren K Moret has a BS in Geology from the University of California at Davis.  Moret is not known to have worked as a geologist or having taught at any level.  Moret was employed as the part-time secretary of a now-deceased prominent professor of Geology at the University of California.  She needed extra money and he arranged for Moret to operate the newly acquired Differential Scanning Calorimeter for his laboratory which was physically located in the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory complex.  Moret has claimed employment by the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, but she worked for Professor Ian Carmichael, not for LBL.  Later Moret was briefly employed as a Senior Scientific Technician, not as a scientist, at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory's Center for Applied Scientific Computing.  Moret has no published original research.  Moret was given co-author credit by two of Professor Campbell's doctoral students, both of whom went on to Chair Geology Departments at major universities because her recorded observations using the Differential Scanning Calorimeter were essential to their doctoral research.  You will find no other scientific research papers under Moret's name.  She is a con artist and people like the 9/11 Truthers are easily conned.  They have being conned for almost fifteen years now. If anyone would like to contact me personally, I can send you some of the documents I have obtained concerning Moret.  I have posted some of them to the Internet Archive, where I have also posted documents I obtained using the Freedom of Information Act for Douglas Lind Rokke of nearby Urbana. See http://www.archive.org/ details/LeurenKMoret- RealJobAtLawrenceLivermoreNati onalLaboratory When Moret spoke at the 9/11 Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, she falsely claimed to have seen the claw like hands of the late Nobel Laureate Doctor Glenn T Seaborg, but the video of that speech seems to have vanished from the internet.  I rather wonder what happened to it since I have previously cited this totally fabricated malicious slander against the discoverer of Plutonium.  Moret claimed that Dr Seaborg used to carry a cube of Plutonium in his pocket and constantly finger it which turned his hands into claws.  I think I may have a copy of this video, but no longer can find it on the internet.  Even 9/11 Truthers at this conference questioned what Moret had to say.  Nice to see that she still is employed spreading lies about anything that people will pay for to hear. Roger Helbig On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: We have solid science on our side of which you will never debate.All you offer now and ever are meaningless epithets.These ten videos have already have been seen by thousands just over the weekend.People, especially students are interested.The internet is awakening a storm of truth and science. On Monday, August 29, 2016 5:22 PM, David Green wrote: Stephen, I'm disappointed that Professor Boyle participated in this nonsense, and wish that you would keep these other trashy and vile individuals, including yourself, from polluting the peace-discuss list. Don't bother to respond. Just stop.David Green On Monday, August 29, 2016 2:04 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: We are pleased to announce the highly successful all-day online video conference that was held on Sat. the 27th of August.The Academic Freedom Conference II  Are there Limits to Inquiry? Should faculty be restrained from or even punished for investigating complex and controversial events of enormous political significance? The conference was held using the Zoom.us video conferencing system. We are very pleased with its performance and features. Leuren Moret was scheduled to speak but had to withdrawal at the last minute.The conference can also be viewed on the Gary King YouTube channel and at NewsFollowUp.com and at the James Fetzer Blog Thank you,Steve Francis Francis Boyle, IntroductionStephen FrancisJames FetzerNick KollerstromSterling HarwoodDarrell HamamotoKevin McDonaldPreston JamesJames Fetzer ______________________________ _________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana. net https://lists.chambana.net/ mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss ______________________________ _________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana. net https://lists.chambana.net/ mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 30 13:42:59 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Academic Freedom Conference II August 27, 2016 In-Reply-To: <544238708.2103415.1472562759546@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1595444814.1540330.1472497217184.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1595444814.1540330.1472497217184@mail.yahoo.com> <1454474250.1771461.1472509060206@mail.yahoo.com> <1794794486.1666301.1472511232528@mail.yahoo.com> <1007944880.1824982.1472541057779@mail.yahoo.com> <544238708.2103415.1472562759546@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <800249.2034064.1472564579916@mail.yahoo.com> You, Mr. Green, are highly fearful of engaging in a scientific and politically oriented debate on these issues. That is why you want this conversation ended. On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:15 AM, David Green wrote: Let's take these issues off the peace list. You two can have at each other privately. This has nothing to do with peace. On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:14 AM, Roger Helbig wrote: Stephen,  Did you intend to actually say something or just see how many words you could use before you did it - glad to note that Moret never participated in your conference - am very curious who invited Moret - and why they decided that she was not really going to be on after all - she is a consumate liar - I expect that most of the rest like Fetzer are as well - he invited both Moret and Rokke to event in Wisconsin some years ago. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:10 AM, Stephen Francis wrote: Over two hundred million people were killed in utterly unnecessary cooked-up wars in the 20th Century (Pearl Harbor has been exposed as a lie to get the US into WWII), Jewish/Neocon fingerprints are all over those wars beginning with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, Treaty of Versailles, the 'A Clean Break' document by the Project of a New American Century, Patriot Act, The Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, (Financial Services Modernization Act) written by bulge bracket Jewish bankers that led to the Great Recession that we are still suffering from, Open Immigration Law Of 1965 (Jacob Javitz) Cultural Marxism at its finest, all Chairs of the Federal Reserve since the 1980s were/are Jewish. Look at the financial mess we are in now because of monetary manipulation by the Fed.  The Jewish/Neocon drive for war against Russia/expansion of NATO eastward is criminal deception. ISIS and al Queda have been completely exposed as Jewish/Saudi/US/British constructs.  Hillary Clinton/Obama policies led to the deliberate murder of Gaddafi in a cooked-up fraudulent war. Israel deliberately targets children in its ethnic cleansing of Palestine.  This is supposed to be a Peace-Discuss group.  Why are these and many other related issues never discussed? The answer is obvious. It would offend the local Jewish power structure on the UofI campus, where there is no such thing as academic freedom.  Any academic broaching any of these subjects would find their career destroyed.  On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:02 AM, Roger Helbig wrote: Stephen,  When you put Leuren K Moret on your program, you lost all sense of academic anything.  Moret is a total phony.  She claims to be an expert on depleted uranium, has spoken at 9/11 events and now is on Fukushima.  She claims that Fukushima resulted from tectonic warfare caused by the HAARP research facility at the University of Alaska.  Nice to see what her latest scheme is.  I personally know her to be a very accomplished liar.  One of her lies was that she had gotten me kicked out a bookstore that I never had been in.  She also was dragged out of the internet by my next door neighbor along with her and Douglas Lind Rokke's mouthpiece Bob Nichols to be witnesses in a Small Claims Court case by my neighbor Jamal Fares.  That case got falsely cited as being in Richardson, California, a non-existent city by another colleague of Moret and Chris Busby in the UK, Felicity Arbuthnot.   Leuren K Moret has a BS in Geology from the University of California at Davis.  Moret is not known to have worked as a geologist or having taught at any level.  Moret was employed as the part-time secretary of a now-deceased prominent professor of Geology at the University of California.  She needed extra money and he arranged for Moret to operate the newly acquired Differential Scanning Calorimeter for his laboratory which was physically located in the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory complex.  Moret has claimed employment by the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, but she worked for Professor Ian Carmichael, not for LBL.  Later Moret was briefly employed as a Senior Scientific Technician, not as a scientist, at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory's Center for Applied Scientific Computing.  Moret has no published original research.  Moret was given co-author credit by two of Professor Campbell's doctoral students, both of whom went on to Chair Geology Departments at major universities because her recorded observations using the Differential Scanning Calorimeter were essential to their doctoral research.  You will find no other scientific research papers under Moret's name.  She is a con artist and people like the 9/11 Truthers are easily conned.  They have being conned for almost fifteen years now. If anyone would like to contact me personally, I can send you some of the documents I have obtained concerning Moret.  I have posted some of them to the Internet Archive, where I have also posted documents I obtained using the Freedom of Information Act for Douglas Lind Rokke of nearby Urbana. See http://www.archive.org/ details/LeurenKMoret- RealJobAtLawrenceLivermoreNati onalLaboratory When Moret spoke at the 9/11 Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, she falsely claimed to have seen the claw like hands of the late Nobel Laureate Doctor Glenn T Seaborg, but the video of that speech seems to have vanished from the internet.  I rather wonder what happened to it since I have previously cited this totally fabricated malicious slander against the discoverer of Plutonium.  Moret claimed that Dr Seaborg used to carry a cube of Plutonium in his pocket and constantly finger it which turned his hands into claws.  I think I may have a copy of this video, but no longer can find it on the internet.  Even 9/11 Truthers at this conference questioned what Moret had to say.  Nice to see that she still is employed spreading lies about anything that people will pay for to hear. Roger Helbig On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: We have solid science on our side of which you will never debate.All you offer now and ever are meaningless epithets.These ten videos have already have been seen by thousands just over the weekend.People, especially students are interested.The internet is awakening a storm of truth and science. On Monday, August 29, 2016 5:22 PM, David Green wrote: Stephen, I'm disappointed that Professor Boyle participated in this nonsense, and wish that you would keep these other trashy and vile individuals, including yourself, from polluting the peace-discuss list. Don't bother to respond. Just stop.David Green On Monday, August 29, 2016 2:04 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: We are pleased to announce the highly successful all-day online video conference that was held on Sat. the 27th of August.The Academic Freedom Conference II  Are there Limits to Inquiry? Should faculty be restrained from or even punished for investigating complex and controversial events of enormous political significance? The conference was held using the Zoom.us video conferencing system. We are very pleased with its performance and features. Leuren Moret was scheduled to speak but had to withdrawal at the last minute.The conference can also be viewed on the Gary King YouTube channel and at NewsFollowUp.com and at the James Fetzer Blog Thank you,Steve Francis Francis Boyle, IntroductionStephen FrancisJames FetzerNick KollerstromSterling HarwoodDarrell HamamotoKevin McDonaldPreston JamesJames Fetzer ______________________________ _________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana. net https://lists.chambana.net/ mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss ______________________________ _________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana. net https://lists.chambana.net/ mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Tue Aug 30 19:13:55 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 14:13:55 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Proposed flyer (unformatted) for AWARE demo Sat. 3 Sept., 2-4pm In-Reply-To: References: <1DFA5981-D2F4-4B0C-A588-A1D9E6406E5D@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: <323F621D-D060-4D36-80AA-E82ECACD0003@newsfromneptune.com> The remarkable thing is that Trump has indicated that he’s anti-interventionist, and that’s sent the the neocons fleeing from the Republicans to Clinton, a reliable warmonger (if not so adept at dissimulation about it as Obama). "The CIA has demanded Trump is not elected. Pentagon generals have demanded he is not elected. The pro-war New York Times — taking a breather from its relentless low-rent Putin smears — demands that he is not elected. Something is up. These tribunes of 'perpetual war' are terrified that the multi-billion-dollar business of war by which the United States maintains its dominance will be undermined if Trump does a deal with Putin, then with China’s Xi Jinping. Their panic at the possibility of the world’s great power talking peace – however unlikely – would be the blackest farce were the issues not so dire.” [John Pilger] I actually think that the Clinton campaign is panicking (is the election much closer than the pollsters say?), because they know that the war that Clinton will conduct in office is a losing issue in the campaign. That’s why Clinton is making hysterical claims about the alt-right - and it’s sponsorship by Putin! (See e.g. >.) Foreign policy is peculiarly the province of the president (more so now than the Founders intended). Obama didn’t have to go back on his 2008 election promises - no one was holding his daughters hostage until he sent 30,00 more troops to Afghanistan - but he did (and, pace Ron, I think he always meant to). But I agree with you that progressive change (civil rights, Vietnam withdrawal) comes not from winning elections but from mass movements. Our job is to generate one. In the absence of an accurate analysis of a situation, the best will in the world will do the right thing only by accident. Our job is to present an accurate analysis - to inform people of good will of the crimes that their chosen leaders are committing. —CGE > On Aug 30, 2016, at 6:21 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > This gives the impression that Obama is waging war all on his own, as if he is an all powerful King, without support from the administration, military, foreign policy advisors, corporate elites and Congress. Given the lack of concern or dissent coming from members of the government, who are well informed, one must hold them accountable as well. The impression that replacement of a leader might bring about change in foreign policy is misleading.The US government is making war in eight countries and likely will do so no matter who is elected President, unless the American people rise up against these crimes against humanity. This will only be accomplished through mass movements, not at the electoral box which has already been rigged. The American people need to get angry at our government, and not assume there is hope for change if only the "right person" is placed in the White House. The problem is not one person/one leader but a system controlled by the 1% elite who profit from trade pacts, the proliferation of wars, and control of other nations resources. > >> On Aug 30, 2016, at 00:20, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > wrote: >> >> A.W.A.R.E. >> The Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana >> >> The U.S. government is waging illegal wars around the world >> and secretly twisting the international economy via ‘trade pacts’ >> (TPP, TTIP) for the benefit of less than 1% of the U.S. population. >> >> Join our demonstration the first Saturday of every month, >> at the intersection of Church and Neil in Champaign, 2-4pm >> >> Meet with us Saturdays at the Urbana Farmers’ Market (Lincoln >> Square) for books, bumper stickers, literature, and conversation >> >> Watch our weekly Urbana Public Television (channel 6) program >> “AWARE on the Air” (also on YouTube), and/or join us at noon Tuesdays >> in the Urbana City Council Chambers for the live unrehearsed recordings >> >> We meet Sundays at 5pm at Pizza M, 208 W. Main St., Urbana; >> new members welcome: for information write us at > >> *** >> President Obama is making war in eight countries; >> he is sending U.S. ‘special forces’ into more than half the world’s countries - to kidnap, torture, and kill ‘bad guys’; >> he has assassinated thousands by drone - the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times - including US citizens; >> and he is provoking war with Russia and China. >> >> Contact the president (202-456-1111) and our representatives in Congress (202-224-3121): >> tell them to end the wars and drone attacks, cut military spending by at least half, bring the >> troops home, and close the U.S. military’s 1,000 foreign bases; stop U.S. support for - and >> arms sales to - human rights abusers like Israel, and lead on global nuclear disarmament. >> >> President Barack Obama - > >> Senator Dick Durbin - > >> Senator Mark Kirk - > >> Representative Rodney Davis - > >> >> ================================================ >> >> President Obama is Killing People in the Mideast and Should Stop >> >> When the new president (probably Hillary Clinton) is inaugurated next January, Barack Obama will have become the first US president - ever - to have been at war throughout two presidential terms. His greatest talent seems to be his ability to distract Americans from what he’s doing. He has attacked eight countries - two more than George Bush - and is today conducting what has been called “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - his drone assassinations. He has killed thousands of civilians, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children, with drones. The New York Times says he chooses the targets himself, from lists prepared by the CIA. >> >> In a book on the last presidential campaign, he is quoted as follows: "'Turns out I'm really good at killing people,' Obama said quietly. 'Didn't know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.'" However ironically he meant it, the quote has not been denied by the White House, and it turns out to be true. >> >> In addition to conducting wars throughout the Mideast, the Obama administration is acting with belligerence toward China, and promoting an ongoing proxy war against Russia in Ukraine, which has already killed more people than Israel killed (with US permission) in Gaza in 2014. He is risking war in both places, even nuclear war. The president also commands through the National Security Council a 70,000-member private army, the Special Operations Command, active in half the countries of the world. Their operations include kidnapping ("rendition"), murder and torture. >> >> Hillary Clinton, responsible for horrors in Honduras, Libya, Syria and elsewhere, as president would only continue and intensify the warmongering of recent administrations, the blowback from which is now producing terrorist attacks in Europe and America. >> >> Syria. The Obama administration is responsible for the vicious civil war in Syria that has killed thousands and flooded Europe with refugees. The disclosure by former US intelligence chief Lt. General Michael Flynn that the Obama administration was well aware from as early as 2012 that its covert support to anti-government militants in Syria was fomenting jihadist terrorism was a rare moment of honesty. Obama’s Secretary of State at that crucial time was Hillary Clinton. In that regard, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is right to say that Obama and Clinton “created” Islamic State and other related jihadist terrorist groups. [F. Cunningham] >> >> Yemen. One of the poorest countries in the world, Yemen is being destroyed by Saudi Arabia, with the active support of the Obama administration. Saudi Arabia, one of the two chief clients of the US in the Mideast (the other is Israel) has been bombing and shelling Yemen for 16 months. The UN puts the civilian death toll at 3700, but it is probably much higher. This rain of destruction was made possible by the material and moral support of the United States, which supplied most of the bombers, bombs, and missiles required for the aerial onslaught. Saudi Arabia is a major contributor to the Clinton Foundation. >> >> The Mideast has been a particular concern of all recent presidential administrations because of its vast stock of oil and natural gas. In the last two generations, US executive branch leaders have killed, wounded and made homeless well over 20 million human beings, many in the Mideast, in order to control those resources. The US doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the US a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries; that control benefits only the American economic elite - the one percent - and not Americans in general, who’ve seen wealth concentrate in fewer and fewer hands at an accelerating rate throughout the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations. >> >> President Obama has fallen in with this pattern and extended it through two terms. Every indications is that these crimes will continue in the new administration, unless Americans demand that they cease. >> >> A.W.A.R.E. - The Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana >> >> {For citations, questions, or comments on this flyer, contact>} ### >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Aug 30 19:56:43 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:56:43 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Proposed flyer (unformatted) for AWARE demo Sat. 3 Sept., 2-4pm In-Reply-To: <323F621D-D060-4D36-80AA-E82ECACD0003@newsfromneptune.com> References: <1DFA5981-D2F4-4B0C-A588-A1D9E6406E5D@newsfromneptune.com> , <323F621D-D060-4D36-80AA-E82ECACD0003@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: I do agree that Obama is responsible for all his actions, and likely did know what the plan would be if elected. He would not have been elected if the powers that be, didn't think they could manage him, as we now see with Trump, a wild card, who is likely not to do as planned. We know that Johnson didn't want to de escalate the war in Vietnam until his "advisors" told him that's what they wanted done. I want to ensure that people don't put their faith in one leader to solve problems, on the assumption that one leader has caused the problems. ________________________________ From: C. G. Estabrook Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 2:13:55 PM To: Karen Aram Cc: Peace-discuss List Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Proposed flyer (unformatted) for AWARE demo Sat. 3 Sept., 2-4pm The remarkable thing is that Trump has indicated that he’s anti-interventionist, and that’s sent the the neocons fleeing from the Republicans to Clinton, a reliable warmonger (if not so adept at dissimulation about it as Obama). "The CIA has demanded Trump is not elected. Pentagon generals have demanded he is not elected. The pro-war New York Times — taking a breather from its relentless low-rent Putin smears — demands that he is not elected. Something is up. These tribunes of 'perpetual war' are terrified that the multi-billion-dollar business of war by which the United States maintains its dominance will be undermined if Trump does a deal with Putin, then with China’s Xi Jinping. Their panic at the possibility of the world’s great power talking peace – however unlikely – would be the blackest farce were the issues not so dire.” [John Pilger] I actually think that the Clinton campaign is panicking (is the election much closer than the pollsters say?), because they know that the war that Clinton will conduct in office is a losing issue in the campaign. That’s why Clinton is making hysterical claims about the alt-right - and it’s sponsorship by Putin! (See e.g. .) Foreign policy is peculiarly the province of the president (more so now than the Founders intended). Obama didn’t have to go back on his 2008 election promises - no one was holding his daughters hostage until he sent 30,00 more troops to Afghanistan - but he did (and, pace Ron, I think he always meant to). But I agree with you that progressive change (civil rights, Vietnam withdrawal) comes not from winning elections but from mass movements. Our job is to generate one. In the absence of an accurate analysis of a situation, the best will in the world will do the right thing only by accident. Our job is to present an accurate analysis - to inform people of good will of the crimes that their chosen leaders are committing. —CGE On Aug 30, 2016, at 6:21 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: This gives the impression that Obama is waging war all on his own, as if he is an all powerful King, without support from the administration, military, foreign policy advisors, corporate elites and Congress. Given the lack of concern or dissent coming from members of the government, who are well informed, one must hold them accountable as well. The impression that replacement of a leader might bring about change in foreign policy is misleading.The US government is making war in eight countries and likely will do so no matter who is elected President, unless the American people rise up against these crimes against humanity. This will only be accomplished through mass movements, not at the electoral box which has already been rigged. The American people need to get angry at our government, and not assume there is hope for change if only the "right person" is placed in the White House. The problem is not one person/one leader but a system controlled by the 1% elite who profit from trade pacts, the proliferation of wars, and control of other nations resources. On Aug 30, 2016, at 00:20, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > wrote: A.W.A.R.E. The Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana The U.S. government is waging illegal wars around the world and secretly twisting the international economy via ‘trade pacts’ (TPP, TTIP) for the benefit of less than 1% of the U.S. population. Join our demonstration the first Saturday of every month, at the intersection of Church and Neil in Champaign, 2-4pm Meet with us Saturdays at the Urbana Farmers’ Market (Lincoln Square) for books, bumper stickers, literature, and conversation Watch our weekly Urbana Public Television (channel 6) program “AWARE on the Air” (also on YouTube), and/or join us at noon Tuesdays in the Urbana City Council Chambers for the live unrehearsed recordings We meet Sundays at 5pm at Pizza M, 208 W. Main St., Urbana; new members welcome: for information write us at > *** President Obama is making war in eight countries; he is sending U.S. ‘special forces’ into more than half the world’s countries - to kidnap, torture, and kill ‘bad guys’; he has assassinated thousands by drone - the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times - including US citizens; and he is provoking war with Russia and China. Contact the president (202-456-1111) and our representatives in Congress (202-224-3121): tell them to end the wars and drone attacks, cut military spending by at least half, bring the troops home, and close the U.S. military’s 1,000 foreign bases; stop U.S. support for - and arms sales to - human rights abusers like Israel, and lead on global nuclear disarmament. President Barack Obama - > Senator Dick Durbin - > Senator Mark Kirk - > Representative Rodney Davis - > ================================================ President Obama is Killing People in the Mideast and Should Stop When the new president (probably Hillary Clinton) is inaugurated next January, Barack Obama will have become the first US president - ever - to have been at war throughout two presidential terms. His greatest talent seems to be his ability to distract Americans from what he’s doing. He has attacked eight countries - two more than George Bush - and is today conducting what has been called “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - his drone assassinations. He has killed thousands of civilians, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children, with drones. The New York Times says he chooses the targets himself, from lists prepared by the CIA. In a book on the last presidential campaign, he is quoted as follows: "'Turns out I'm really good at killing people,' Obama said quietly. 'Didn't know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.'" However ironically he meant it, the quote has not been denied by the White House, and it turns out to be true. In addition to conducting wars throughout the Mideast, the Obama administration is acting with belligerence toward China, and promoting an ongoing proxy war against Russia in Ukraine, which has already killed more people than Israel killed (with US permission) in Gaza in 2014. He is risking war in both places, even nuclear war. The president also commands through the National Security Council a 70,000-member private army, the Special Operations Command, active in half the countries of the world. Their operations include kidnapping ("rendition"), murder and torture. Hillary Clinton, responsible for horrors in Honduras, Libya, Syria and elsewhere, as president would only continue and intensify the warmongering of recent administrations, the blowback from which is now producing terrorist attacks in Europe and America. Syria. The Obama administration is responsible for the vicious civil war in Syria that has killed thousands and flooded Europe with refugees. The disclosure by former US intelligence chief Lt. General Michael Flynn that the Obama administration was well aware from as early as 2012 that its covert support to anti-government militants in Syria was fomenting jihadist terrorism was a rare moment of honesty. Obama’s Secretary of State at that crucial time was Hillary Clinton. In that regard, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is right to say that Obama and Clinton “created” Islamic State and other related jihadist terrorist groups. [F. Cunningham] Yemen. One of the poorest countries in the world, Yemen is being destroyed by Saudi Arabia, with the active support of the Obama administration. Saudi Arabia, one of the two chief clients of the US in the Mideast (the other is Israel) has been bombing and shelling Yemen for 16 months. The UN puts the civilian death toll at 3700, but it is probably much higher. This rain of destruction was made possible by the material and moral support of the United States, which supplied most of the bombers, bombs, and missiles required for the aerial onslaught. Saudi Arabia is a major contributor to the Clinton Foundation. The Mideast has been a particular concern of all recent presidential administrations because of its vast stock of oil and natural gas. In the last two generations, US executive branch leaders have killed, wounded and made homeless well over 20 million human beings, many in the Mideast, in order to control those resources. The US doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the US a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries; that control benefits only the American economic elite - the one percent - and not Americans in general, who’ve seen wealth concentrate in fewer and fewer hands at an accelerating rate throughout the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations. President Obama has fallen in with this pattern and extended it through two terms. Every indications is that these crimes will continue in the new administration, unless Americans demand that they cease. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Aug 31 14:10:22 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 14:10:22 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Two years old, but, unfortunately, still relevant Message-ID: [Bookmark and Share] [https://imgssl.constantcontact.com/ui/images1/visitor/email2_trans.gif] Sign up for our FREE Daily Email Newsletter [http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/feedicon12.png] The Bloody Road to Damascus The Triple Alliance’s War on a Sovereign State By James Petras March 10, 2012 "Information Clearing House" --- There is clear and overwhelming evidence that the uprising to overthrow President Assad of Syria is a violent, power grab led by foreign-supported fighters who have killed and wounded thousands of Syrian soldiers, police and civilians, partisans of the government and its peaceful opposition. The outrage expressed by politicians in the West and Gulf State and in the mass media, about the ‘killing of peaceful Syrian citizens protesting injustice’ is cynically designed to cover up the documented reports of violent seizure of neighborhoods, villages and towns by armed bands, brandishing machine guns and planting road-side bombs. The assault on Syria is backed by foreign funds, arms and training. Because of a lack of domestic support, however, to be successful, direct foreign military intervention will be necessary. For this reason a huge propaganda and diplomatic campaign has been mounted to demonize the legitimate Syrian government. The goal is to impose a puppet regime and strengthen Western imperial control in the Middle East. In the short run, this will further isolate Iran in preparation for a military attack by Israel and the US and, in the long run, it eliminates another independent secular regime friendly to China and Russia. In order to mobilize world support behind this Western, Israeli and Gulf State-funded power grab, several propaganda ploys have been used to justify another blatant violation of a country’s sovereignty after their successful destruction of the secular governments of Iraq and Libya. The Larger Context: Serial Aggression The current Western campaign against the independent Assad regime in Syria is part of a series of attacks against pro-democracy movements and independent regimes from North Africa to the Persian Gulf. The imperial-militarist response to the Egyptian democracy movement that overthrew the Mubarak dictatorship was to back the military junta’s seizure of power and murderous campaign to jail, torture, and assassinate over 10,000 pro-democracy protestors. Faced with similar mass democratic movements in the Arab world, the Western-backed Gulf autocratic dictators crushed their respective uprisings in Bahrain, Yemen, and Saudi Arabia. The assaults extended to the secular government in Libya where NATO powers launched a massive air and sea bombardment in support of armed bands of mercenaries thereby destroying Libya’s economy and civil society. The unleashing of armed gangster-mercenaries led to the savaging of urban life in Libya and devastation in the countryside. The NATO powers eliminated the secular government of Colonel Gaddafi, along with having him murdered and mutilated by its mercenaries. Nato oversaw the wounding, imprisonment, torture, and elimination of tens of thousands of civilian Gaddafi supporters and government workers. NATO backed the puppet regime as it embarked on a bloody pogrom against Libyan citizens of sub-Saharan African ancestry as well a sub-Sahara African immigrant workers – groups who had benefited from Gaddafi’s generous social programs. The imperial policy of ruin and rule in Libya serves as “the model” for Syria: Creating the conditions for a mass uprising led by Muslim fundamentalists, funded and trained by Western and Gulf State mercenaries. The Bloody Road From Damascus to Tehran According to the State Department ‘The road to Teheran passes through Damascus’: The strategic goal of NATO is to destroy Iran’s principal ally in the Middle East; for the Gulf absolutist monarchies the purpose is to replace a secular republic with a vassal theocratic dictatorship; for the Turkish government the purpose is to foster a regime amenable to the dictates of Ankara’s version of Islamic capitalism; for Al Qaeda and allied Salafi and Wahabi fundamentalists a theocratic Sunni regime, cleansed of secular Syrians, Alevis, and Christians, will serve as a trampoline for projecting power in the Islamic world; and for Israel a blood-drenched divided Syria will further ensure its regional hegemony. It was not without prophetic foresight that the über-Zionist US Senator Joseph Lieberman demanded days after the ‘Al Qaeda’ attack of September 11, 2001: “First we must go after Iran, Iraq, and Syria” before considering the actual authors of the deed. The armed anti-Syrian forces reflect a variety of conflicting political perspectives united only by their common hatred of the independent secular, nationalist regime which has governed the complex, multi-ethnic Syrian society for decades. The war against Syria is the principle launching pad for a further resurgence of Western militarism extending from North Africa to the Persian Gulf, buttressed by a systematic propaganda campaign proclaiming NATO’s democratic, humanitarian and ‘civilizing’ mission on behalf of the Syrian people. The Road to Damascus is Paved with Lies An objective analysis of the political and social composition of the principle armed combatants in Syria refutes any claim that the uprising is in pursuit of democracy for the people of that country. Authoritarian fundamentalist fighters form the backbone of the uprising. The Gulf States financing these brutal thugs are themselves absolutist monarchies. The West, after having foisted a brutal gangster regime on the people of Libya, can make no claim of ‘humanitarian intervention’. The armed groups infiltrate towns and use population centers as shields from which they launch their attacks on government forces. In the process they force thousands of citizens from their homes, stores and offices which they use as military outposts. The destruction of the neighborhood of Baba Amr in Homs is a classic case of armed gangs using civilians as shields and as propaganda fodder in demonizing the government. These armed mercenaries have no national credibility with the mass of Syrian people. One of their main propaganda mills is located in the heart of London, the so-called “Syrian Human Rights Observatory” where it coordinates closely with British intelligence turning out lurid atrocity stories to whip up sentiment in favor of a NATO intervention. The kings and emirs of the Gulf States bankroll these fighters. Turkey provides military bases and controls the cross-border flow of arms and the movement of the leaders of the so-called “Free Syrian Army”. The US, France and England provide the arms, training and diplomatic cover. Foreign jihadist-fundamentalists, including Al Qaeda fighters from Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan, have entered the conflict. This is no “civil war”. This is an international conflict pitting an unholy triple alliance of NATO imperialists, Gulf State despots, and Muslim fundamentalists against an independent secular nationalist regime. The foreign origin of the weapons, propaganda machinery and mercenary fighters reveals the sinister imperial, ‘multi-national’ character of the conflict. Ultimately the violent uprising against the Syrian state represents a systematic imperialist campaign to overthrow an ally of Iran, Russia, and China, even at the cost of destroying Syria’s economy and civil society, fragmenting the country and unleashing enduring sectarian wars of extermination against the Alevi and Christian minorities, as well as secular government supporters. The killings and mass flight of refugees is not the result of gratuitous violence committed by a blood thirsty Syrian state. The Western backed militias have seized neighborhoods by force of arms, destroyed oil pipelines, sabotaged transportation and bombed government buildings. In the course of their attacks they have disrupted basic services critical to the Syrian people including education, access to medical care, security, water, electricity and transportation. As such, they bear most of the responsibility for this “humanitarian disaster”, (which their imperial allies and UN officials blame on Syrian security and armed forces). The Syrian security forces are fighting to preserve the national independence of a secular state, while the armed opposition commits violence on behalf of their foreign pay-masters – in Washington, Riyadh, Tel Aviv, Ankara, and London. Conclusions The Assad regime’s referendum last month drew millions of Syrian voters in defiance of Western imperialist threats and terrorist calls for a boycott. This clearly indicated that a majority of Syrians prefer a peaceful, negotiated settlement and reject mercenary violence. The Western-backed Syrian National Council and the Turkish and Gulf States-armed “Free Syrian Army” flatly rejected Russian and Chinese calls for an open dialogue and negotiations which the Assad regime has accepted. NATO and Gulf State dictatorships are pushing their proxies to pursue violent “regime change”, a policy which already has caused the death of thousands of Syrians. US and European economic sanctions are designed to wreck the Syrian economy, in the expectation that acute deprivation will drive an impoverished population into the arms of their violent proxies. In a repeat of the Libya scenario, NATO proposes to “liberate” the Syrian people by destroying their economy, civil society and secular state. A Western military victory in Syria will merely feed the rising frenzy of militarism. It will encourage the West, Riyadh and Israel to provoke a new civil war in Lebanon. After demolishing Syria, the Washington-EU-Riyadh-Tel Aviv axes will move on to a far bloodier confrontation with Iran. The horrific destruction of Iraq, followed by Libya’s post-war collapse provides a terrifying template of what is in store for the people of Syria: A precipitous collapse of their living standards, the fragmentation of their country, ethnic cleansing, rule by sectarian and fundamentalist gangs, and total insecurity of life and property. Just as the “left” and “progressives” declared the brutal savaging of Libya to be the “revolutionary struggle of insurgent democrats” and then walked away, washing their hands of the bloody aftermath of ethnic violence against black Libyans, they repeat the same calls for military intervention against Syria. The same liberals, progressives, socialists and Marxists who are calling on the West to intervene in Syria’s “humanitarian crises” from their cafes and offices in Manhattan and Paris, will lose all interest in the bloody orgy of their victorious mercenaries after Damascus, Aleppo, and other Syrian cities have been bombed by NATO into submission. James Petras, a former Professor of Sociology at Binghamton University, New York, owns a 50-year membership in the class struggle, is an adviser to the landless and jobless in Brazil and Argentina, and is co-author of Globalization Unmasked (Zed Books). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Aug 31 14:10:22 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 14:10:22 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Two years old, but, unfortunately, still relevant Message-ID: [Bookmark and Share] [https://imgssl.constantcontact.com/ui/images1/visitor/email2_trans.gif] Sign up for our FREE Daily Email Newsletter [http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/feedicon12.png] The Bloody Road to Damascus The Triple Alliance’s War on a Sovereign State By James Petras March 10, 2012 "Information Clearing House" --- There is clear and overwhelming evidence that the uprising to overthrow President Assad of Syria is a violent, power grab led by foreign-supported fighters who have killed and wounded thousands of Syrian soldiers, police and civilians, partisans of the government and its peaceful opposition. The outrage expressed by politicians in the West and Gulf State and in the mass media, about the ‘killing of peaceful Syrian citizens protesting injustice’ is cynically designed to cover up the documented reports of violent seizure of neighborhoods, villages and towns by armed bands, brandishing machine guns and planting road-side bombs. The assault on Syria is backed by foreign funds, arms and training. Because of a lack of domestic support, however, to be successful, direct foreign military intervention will be necessary. For this reason a huge propaganda and diplomatic campaign has been mounted to demonize the legitimate Syrian government. The goal is to impose a puppet regime and strengthen Western imperial control in the Middle East. In the short run, this will further isolate Iran in preparation for a military attack by Israel and the US and, in the long run, it eliminates another independent secular regime friendly to China and Russia. In order to mobilize world support behind this Western, Israeli and Gulf State-funded power grab, several propaganda ploys have been used to justify another blatant violation of a country’s sovereignty after their successful destruction of the secular governments of Iraq and Libya. The Larger Context: Serial Aggression The current Western campaign against the independent Assad regime in Syria is part of a series of attacks against pro-democracy movements and independent regimes from North Africa to the Persian Gulf. The imperial-militarist response to the Egyptian democracy movement that overthrew the Mubarak dictatorship was to back the military junta’s seizure of power and murderous campaign to jail, torture, and assassinate over 10,000 pro-democracy protestors. Faced with similar mass democratic movements in the Arab world, the Western-backed Gulf autocratic dictators crushed their respective uprisings in Bahrain, Yemen, and Saudi Arabia. The assaults extended to the secular government in Libya where NATO powers launched a massive air and sea bombardment in support of armed bands of mercenaries thereby destroying Libya’s economy and civil society. The unleashing of armed gangster-mercenaries led to the savaging of urban life in Libya and devastation in the countryside. The NATO powers eliminated the secular government of Colonel Gaddafi, along with having him murdered and mutilated by its mercenaries. Nato oversaw the wounding, imprisonment, torture, and elimination of tens of thousands of civilian Gaddafi supporters and government workers. NATO backed the puppet regime as it embarked on a bloody pogrom against Libyan citizens of sub-Saharan African ancestry as well a sub-Sahara African immigrant workers – groups who had benefited from Gaddafi’s generous social programs. The imperial policy of ruin and rule in Libya serves as “the model” for Syria: Creating the conditions for a mass uprising led by Muslim fundamentalists, funded and trained by Western and Gulf State mercenaries. The Bloody Road From Damascus to Tehran According to the State Department ‘The road to Teheran passes through Damascus’: The strategic goal of NATO is to destroy Iran’s principal ally in the Middle East; for the Gulf absolutist monarchies the purpose is to replace a secular republic with a vassal theocratic dictatorship; for the Turkish government the purpose is to foster a regime amenable to the dictates of Ankara’s version of Islamic capitalism; for Al Qaeda and allied Salafi and Wahabi fundamentalists a theocratic Sunni regime, cleansed of secular Syrians, Alevis, and Christians, will serve as a trampoline for projecting power in the Islamic world; and for Israel a blood-drenched divided Syria will further ensure its regional hegemony. It was not without prophetic foresight that the über-Zionist US Senator Joseph Lieberman demanded days after the ‘Al Qaeda’ attack of September 11, 2001: “First we must go after Iran, Iraq, and Syria” before considering the actual authors of the deed. The armed anti-Syrian forces reflect a variety of conflicting political perspectives united only by their common hatred of the independent secular, nationalist regime which has governed the complex, multi-ethnic Syrian society for decades. The war against Syria is the principle launching pad for a further resurgence of Western militarism extending from North Africa to the Persian Gulf, buttressed by a systematic propaganda campaign proclaiming NATO’s democratic, humanitarian and ‘civilizing’ mission on behalf of the Syrian people. The Road to Damascus is Paved with Lies An objective analysis of the political and social composition of the principle armed combatants in Syria refutes any claim that the uprising is in pursuit of democracy for the people of that country. Authoritarian fundamentalist fighters form the backbone of the uprising. The Gulf States financing these brutal thugs are themselves absolutist monarchies. The West, after having foisted a brutal gangster regime on the people of Libya, can make no claim of ‘humanitarian intervention’. The armed groups infiltrate towns and use population centers as shields from which they launch their attacks on government forces. In the process they force thousands of citizens from their homes, stores and offices which they use as military outposts. The destruction of the neighborhood of Baba Amr in Homs is a classic case of armed gangs using civilians as shields and as propaganda fodder in demonizing the government. These armed mercenaries have no national credibility with the mass of Syrian people. One of their main propaganda mills is located in the heart of London, the so-called “Syrian Human Rights Observatory” where it coordinates closely with British intelligence turning out lurid atrocity stories to whip up sentiment in favor of a NATO intervention. The kings and emirs of the Gulf States bankroll these fighters. Turkey provides military bases and controls the cross-border flow of arms and the movement of the leaders of the so-called “Free Syrian Army”. The US, France and England provide the arms, training and diplomatic cover. Foreign jihadist-fundamentalists, including Al Qaeda fighters from Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan, have entered the conflict. This is no “civil war”. This is an international conflict pitting an unholy triple alliance of NATO imperialists, Gulf State despots, and Muslim fundamentalists against an independent secular nationalist regime. The foreign origin of the weapons, propaganda machinery and mercenary fighters reveals the sinister imperial, ‘multi-national’ character of the conflict. Ultimately the violent uprising against the Syrian state represents a systematic imperialist campaign to overthrow an ally of Iran, Russia, and China, even at the cost of destroying Syria’s economy and civil society, fragmenting the country and unleashing enduring sectarian wars of extermination against the Alevi and Christian minorities, as well as secular government supporters. The killings and mass flight of refugees is not the result of gratuitous violence committed by a blood thirsty Syrian state. The Western backed militias have seized neighborhoods by force of arms, destroyed oil pipelines, sabotaged transportation and bombed government buildings. In the course of their attacks they have disrupted basic services critical to the Syrian people including education, access to medical care, security, water, electricity and transportation. As such, they bear most of the responsibility for this “humanitarian disaster”, (which their imperial allies and UN officials blame on Syrian security and armed forces). The Syrian security forces are fighting to preserve the national independence of a secular state, while the armed opposition commits violence on behalf of their foreign pay-masters – in Washington, Riyadh, Tel Aviv, Ankara, and London. Conclusions The Assad regime’s referendum last month drew millions of Syrian voters in defiance of Western imperialist threats and terrorist calls for a boycott. This clearly indicated that a majority of Syrians prefer a peaceful, negotiated settlement and reject mercenary violence. The Western-backed Syrian National Council and the Turkish and Gulf States-armed “Free Syrian Army” flatly rejected Russian and Chinese calls for an open dialogue and negotiations which the Assad regime has accepted. NATO and Gulf State dictatorships are pushing their proxies to pursue violent “regime change”, a policy which already has caused the death of thousands of Syrians. US and European economic sanctions are designed to wreck the Syrian economy, in the expectation that acute deprivation will drive an impoverished population into the arms of their violent proxies. In a repeat of the Libya scenario, NATO proposes to “liberate” the Syrian people by destroying their economy, civil society and secular state. A Western military victory in Syria will merely feed the rising frenzy of militarism. It will encourage the West, Riyadh and Israel to provoke a new civil war in Lebanon. After demolishing Syria, the Washington-EU-Riyadh-Tel Aviv axes will move on to a far bloodier confrontation with Iran. The horrific destruction of Iraq, followed by Libya’s post-war collapse provides a terrifying template of what is in store for the people of Syria: A precipitous collapse of their living standards, the fragmentation of their country, ethnic cleansing, rule by sectarian and fundamentalist gangs, and total insecurity of life and property. Just as the “left” and “progressives” declared the brutal savaging of Libya to be the “revolutionary struggle of insurgent democrats” and then walked away, washing their hands of the bloody aftermath of ethnic violence against black Libyans, they repeat the same calls for military intervention against Syria. The same liberals, progressives, socialists and Marxists who are calling on the West to intervene in Syria’s “humanitarian crises” from their cafes and offices in Manhattan and Paris, will lose all interest in the bloody orgy of their victorious mercenaries after Damascus, Aleppo, and other Syrian cities have been bombed by NATO into submission. James Petras, a former Professor of Sociology at Binghamton University, New York, owns a 50-year membership in the class struggle, is an adviser to the landless and jobless in Brazil and Argentina, and is co-author of Globalization Unmasked (Zed Books). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Aug 31 20:17:31 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 20:17:31 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] WEFT Interview against Killer Koh and Illinois Law School In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: University of Illinois College of Law (died 2016). RIP. Fab. Focus Politics The Northwestern Law: Give him an offer he can’t refuse! The Northwestern Law: Give him an offer he can’t refuse! | Print | E-mail Monday, 12 March 2012 11:54 [http://mwcnews.net/images/comprofiler/tn582_4bb792b2294ad.jpg] By Francis Boyle Comments [Reagan’s Attorney General Edmund Meese]Illinois Law: Boyle, a specialist in international law, said Meese should be allowed to speak, but not as the university's guest to honor the Constitution. Back in early 1987 the ex-Dean of the University of Illinois College of Law (we later got canned—note that Dean Rodriguez) publicly announced that the Keynote Speaker at our Campus Celebration of the 200th anniversary of the United States Constitution would be Reagan’s Attorney General Edmund Meese in order “to honor” the Constitution. As I immediately told the news media at that time, this would be like asking Attila the Hun to speak “in honor” of Virginity. Meese repeatedly raped the Constitution for Reagan. So we immediately organized a Citizen’s Protest right outside where Meese was speaking entitled “We The People.” The University Administration threatened to shut us down. I drafted both Federal and State TROs to stop it, coordinated them with a US Federal Judge and a State Judge beforehand, and then informed the University General Counsel that we would seek immediate TROs to stop them from shutting us down. The University Police told us that if Meese’s Secret Service (SS) entourage told them to shoot us, they would shoot us. We went on with our event anyway. The figure was a lot more than the 200 listed below—always an undercount by the MSM. The Street was overflowing with Protestors. And for speakers we brought in Representatives of all of the Poor, the Oppressed and the Downtrodden who had been persecuted by Reagan and Meese et al. That is Illinois Law for you! And what did the Northwestern Law Faculty do when it was announced several days beforehand that Holder was going to desecrate, defile and debase the Constitution and use their Law School as a Prop to do so by justifying the murder of United States Citizens? Zip. Zero. Nothing. Nada. Diddly-squat. The gutless wonders of the Northwestern Law Faculty stood by and watched Holder rape the Constitution and Northwestern Law School in their presence. They have no Guts and no Principles. Northwestern Law School died that day. And what is the difference between Holder/Obama and Meese/Reagan? Even Meese/Reagan never claimed any bogus “right” to murder U.S. Citizens for any reason, and to the best of my knowledge they did not murder U.S. Citizens—though they murdered a lot of foreigners. Whereas Holder/Obama have now murdered at least 3 U.S. Citizens that we are aware of—and counting. From the perspective of the US Constitution, Holder/Obama are far worse and more dangerous than Meese/Reagan. The Northwestern Law Faculty are no longer fit to educate Lawyers, Members of the Bar, and Officers of the Court. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:22 AM To: Amanda Bass ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'Karen Aram' ; 'David Green' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: WEFT Interview against Killer Koh and Illinois Law School I want to thank David Johnson and WEFT for giving me a Platform here—especially since WILL has blackballed me off there for many years because of my support for the Palestinians. I am also adding my friend Sherwood Ross to this list. 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