[Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 151, Issue 25

Tue Aug 30 00:59:46 UTC 2016

oops another correction... I omitted the word 'a' in a sentence.So I might as well add something...All my efforts go towards the promotion of peace, as in the name of the group 'peace-discuss' describes?I'm especially concerned about the treatment of the Palestinians. I much more anti-Zionist than pro Palestinian because I want to focus my efforts where the most problems exist. That would include the Jewish expulsions, Zionist activities in Nazi Germany, the 60 million people killed in the Jewish Communist revolution, the Holodomor, Middle East Wars, JFK assassination, AIPAC's control of Congress.  I'm sure there is something I left out. 

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Academic Freedom Conference II  August 27, 2016
      (Stephen Francis)
  2. Re: Political Phonies (C. G. Estabrook)

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 23:02:30 +0000 (UTC)
From: Stephen Francis <stephenf1113 at yahoo.com>
To: David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
Cc: Peace-discuss List <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Academic Freedom Conference II  August
    27, 2016
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correction:I used the word have incorrectly.
and I would like to add that we are very grateful to Professor Boyle for his courage in participating in this conference. 

    On Monday, August 29, 2016 5:22 PM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:

 Stephen, I'm disappointed that Professor Boyle participated in this nonsense, and wish that you would keep these other trashy and vile individuals, including yourself, from polluting the peace-discuss list. Don't bother to respond. Just stop.David Green 

    On Monday, August 29, 2016 2:04 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

 We are pleased to announce the highly successful all-day online video conference that was held on Sat. the 27th of August.The Academic Freedom Conference II  Are there Limits to Inquiry? Should faculty be restrained from or even punished for investigating complex and controversial events of enormous political significance?

The conference was held using the Zoom.us video conferencing system. We are very pleased with its performance and features. Leuren Moret was scheduled to speak but had to withdrawal at the last minute.The conference can also be viewed on the Gary King YouTube channel and at NewsFollowUp.com and at the James Fetzer Blog

Thank you,Steve Francis

Francis Boyle, IntroductionStephen FrancisJames FetzerNick KollerstromSterling HarwoodDarrell HamamotoKevin McDonaldPreston JamesJames Fetzer

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:37:50 -0500
From: "C. G. Estabrook" <carl at newsfromneptune.com>
To: David Johnson <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Political Phonies
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Duckworth will also be a vote for more Obama-Clinton war.  I could no more vote for her than for Kirk.

There is (I think) still a Green candidate for Senate, but I haven’t seen much from him.

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 1:20 PM, David Johnson <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net> wrote:
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> Dear Friends,
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> The Decatur television news program announced a visit by Senate candidate Tammy Duckworth that had already taken place. There was no rally, no inside news coverage, no ordinary voters invited, only the usual corporate palm greasing ceremony from one of America's sleaziest corporations; Archer Daniels Midland Company.  
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> The Duckworth campaign has reached out to IL activists for donations to her campaign and I was one of them who donated with the hope of getting rid of incumbent, Mark Kirk. I did not expect to be invited to meet Duckworth but an open forum with questions and answers would have went a long way for my continued support. If Duckworth's outreach for money and support is to be successful she needs to reach out to voters, supporters, and those she is suppose to represent.
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> Her brief statement at the end of the meeting with the rich and devious said it all, and it was troubling. The gist of her remarks was slobbering on ADM and how "we need invest in corporations who provide good jobs".  When you digest that comment, questions are raised. "Invest in corporations" is political doublespeak for massive tax breaks, ethanol subsidies, and allowing them to ignore playing by the rules. Share holders "invests" in ADM and rake in the gold for it. Decatur gets their pollution, their control over city government and the numerous deaths of employees through OSHA violations, not to mention constant labor turmoil due to ADM anti-union sentiments. Then there is the numerous black-eyes Decatur gets after ADM is embroiled in one corruption scandal after another.
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> The national mantra that somehow we need to pay corporations to provide jobs is a subject that goes far beyond Duckworth.  It is the mantra of the overwhelming majority on both sides of the aisle. How about "we provide the labor that produces the profits.  The evil of this mantra has created the greatest disparity of wealth in US history and the greatest social divide.
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> It is abundantly clear that Duckworth is in lockstep with the mantra and in her visit to Decatur she met with the only supporter that mattered to a seasoned corporate lacky.
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> Mike Griffin

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