[Peace-discuss] Demagoguery from Duckworth

[Robert Naiman]

Yes, there is a more rabid supporter of AIPAC than Hillary Clinton: Mark
Kirk.

Nobody is expecting you to vote for Hillary Clinton or Tammy Duckworth.

But if you don't concede that Mark Kirk is more pro-AIPAC than Hillary
Clinton, then either you are not informed or you are not telling the truth.



Robert Naiman
Policy Director
Just Foreign Policy
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naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
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On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:29 AM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> A vote for Mark Kirk is a vote for AIPAC? Is there any more rabid
> supporter of AIPAC than Hillary Clinton?
>
> Just as I won’t vote for Clinton because “She’s not Donald Trump!”, so I
> won’t vote for Duckworth because “She’s not Mark Kirk!”
>
> Pro-war Duckworth was carpet-bagged into a Congressional seat by the
> national Democratic party in order to displace a popular anti-war Democrat.
>
> Following Debs’ advice - that it’s better to vote for what you want and
> not get it than to vote for what you don’t want and get it - I’ll vote for
> the Green party candidate for Senate, Scott Summers.
>
>
> On Jul 29, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Robert Naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>
> wrote:
>
> I'm not in love with the Russia thing, but this is not something that
> Duckworth in particular is promoting, this is something that Trump did that
> is so controversial in mainstream U.S. discourse that even Trump backed off
> of it. It must have been pretty extreme for Trump to back off of it, given
> all the outrageous things that he's not willing to abandon.
>
> Kirk was a principal, vigorous opponent of the Iran nuclear deal and has
> been a longtime Iran warmonger; he was an Iran warmonger before it was cool
> to be an Iran warmonger. Kirk is more AIPAC than AIPAC. He actually
> attacked AIPAC during the #IranDeal fight for not being vicious enough in
> its attacks on the deal. Duckworth voted for the deal. Every national peace
> group supported the deal and opposed Kirk's efforts to kill it.
>
> Trump, of course, is against the deal, as is virtually the whole GOP. This
> is part of their play to pander to the extreme right wing of the Israel
> Lobby.
>
> Hillary supports the deal.
>
> I expect to have problems with Hillary when she is POTUS. If she tries to
> lead a regime change war in Syria I will fight her all the way; in fact,
> I'm already fighting with people on Team Hillary who want her to do this.
> But so far Hillary is being careful only to emphasize things that Hillary
> supporters and Bernie supporters agree on - as she did last night.
>
> Hillary is leading Trump in Illinois by 14 points, according to a recent
> poll. No mainstream analyst expects the outcome in Illinois to be in
> dispute: Hillary will beat Trump in Illinois decisively. We likely won't
> see much campaigning here in the presidential race.
>
> But the Senate race is a very different matter. A recent poll had Kirk
> leading Duckworth. I suspect this result is driven by the fact that many
> people in Illinois have no idea what a right-wing goon Mark Kirk is. He has
> carefully worked to cultivate an "independent" image - denouncing Trump,
> calling for a confirmation hearing for Garland, etc. But on the Middle
> East, Kirk is no moderate. He is more AIPAC than AIPAC.
>
> Duckworth voted for banning the transfer of cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia.
> Where is Mark Kirk?
>
> The election that put Kirk in office was extremely close. Champaign County
> could make the difference this time.
>
> A vote for Mark Kirk is a vote for AIPAC.
>
> Tammy Duckworth yard signs are starting to spring up around town. This is
> a development we should all encourage.
>
> ===
>
> Robert Naiman
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> Just Foreign Policy
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> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>
>> [Politico.com
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__Politico.com&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=ExvJuzYSnc12a8TVJqAT96VNiv6Ryv2n0pida-wdM1A&s=AlZdkS43Be2iOAxr2aM4mZoABeI13u4ZZ98HMzH4ApA&e=>] "U.S.
>> Senate hopeful Tammy Duckworth used her moment in the spotlight at the
>> Democratic National Convention on Thursday to take it to Republican nominee
>> Donald Trump. Speaking to the convention's delegates, she assailed Trump
>> for his controversial comments asking Russia to find Hillary Clinton's
>> deleted emails [sic]… Duckworth said, 'By the way, Donald Trump, I didn't
>> put my life on the line to defend our democracy so you could invite Russia
>> to interfere in it.' 'You are not fit to be Commander-in-Chief.’"
>>
>> Duckworth, who if she is elected to replace Illinois senator Mark Kirk,
>> will be a reliable vote for more Obama-Clinton war in the Mideast and
>> elsewhere, asserts all of Hillary Clinton’s political program:
>>
>> (1) the president’s primary description is commander-in-chief: the
>> principal job is to make war; and
>> (2) Clinton’s primary qualification is “I am not Donald Trump!”
>>
>> —CGE
>>
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