[Peace-discuss] Proposal

Tue Mar 29 22:58:10 EDT 2016

Steve, You have a lot to say. Feel free to start your own show.
-karen medina
On Mar 26, 2016 5:22 PM, "Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss" <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> Dear Carl,
> Thank you for the opportunity to submit a proposal involving my
> participation on your community show.
> I do this with complete respect for your stature in the community along
> with all your colleagues.
> I realize that my views are controversial, but that does not make them
> false.
> It has always fascinated me that individuals can look at the same pieces
> of evidence and make completely opposing conclusions based on that
> evidence. One side or the other is clearly wrong and being irrational in
> varying degrees.
>
> My appearance on your show will give viewers a chance to compare those
> conclusions, based on the presentation of evidence.  I try to adhere to the
> scientific method at all times in order to provide a common system for
> viewers to assess what they see and hear. Personal attacks, ad hominem
> statements should be strictly avoided by all participants. Accusing me of
> being a neo-Nazi is included in this requirement.  I am not a neo-Nazi and
> only refer to them in reference to their collaboration with Zionists (in
> Ukraine and elsewhere).
>
> Before I go any further with this email, I would like to reiterate some
> points about my credibility in engaging this proposal in the event that
> this email gets forwarded to anyone.
>
> A brief summary of points is as follows: As we discussed, my first foray
> into the world of political activism began in 1969. To make a long story
> short, I was arrested and jailed in the stockade at Fort Ord, California in
> 1969 as a uniformed Army soldier (along with three other soldiers) for
> disobeying orders given by three commissioned officers (to get on a bus)
> during a anti-Vietnam War demonstration. This act was the culmination of my
> becoming aware that the Vietnam War was an immoral, cooked-up act of
> typical warmonger profiteers that have been with us for centuries.
>
> Once I got out of the service (with an Other than Honorable Discharge of
> which I'm proud) I did not participate in political activities of any kind
> until 9/11/2001, when it struck me that that day had a highly significant
> connection to the horrors of the Vietnam War.
>
> I was deeply moved by 9/11 and wanted to find out what really happened. I
> discovered hundreds of inconsistencies in the official story and started a
> website in 2002 detailing those inconsistencies. The website is
> www.newsfollowup.com and enjoys 40-70,000 pages downloaded per month that
> goes to all continents (reports available upon demand).  99% of all
> websites in the world get less traffic. The site gets only a minuscule drop
> of attention considering the total size of world wide web, but it is not
> insignificant. I think that I'm a reasonably well qualified to appear on
> your show.
>
> I'm also the author of the YouTube channel 'Academic Freedom Conference'
> ... it enjoys 850 subscribers and over 208,000 views.
>
> My research led me inevitably to Israel and Zionists ... and neocons. I
> had no prior reason to be suspicious of them until this research.  There is
> a common thread throughout the last one hundred and fifty years or so that
> has led me to this point and that is the creation of the State of Israel.
> If one follows that thread from the Bolshevik revolution to 9/11 there is
> incontrovertible evidence that this is a core principle that can lead to
> understanding our modern world. NewsFollowUp.com (and YouTube) is a journey
> through this period. This long-term global perspective is of ultimate
> importance. For example, if one considers the Industrial Revolution,
> Zionists... Rothschilds knew that the control of oil/energy and having a
> footprint in the Middle East was overwhelmingly essential.  All else easily
> falls into place from that one goal. The Palestinians never had the
> slightest chance to countering such massive wealth and power and they are
> still suffering from it. The Rothschild began financially supporting
> settlements in the late 19th century.
>
> Once one crosses over the line and believes that Israel was complicit in
> 9/11 and that the official story of 9/11 is not true, then the total
> 'official' history of Israel becomes suspect. Tens of thousands of books
> and billions of dollars have been spent on re-writing history to obfuscate
> the real story of the creation of the State of Israel. In 2016 the internet
> is finally starting to significantly uncover the lies. The world-wide surge
> in anti-Semitism I believe is connected.
>
> It is utterly horrific to consider that the leaders of Israel (and
> neocons) actually murdered 3000 people on 9/11 to further their own
> interests. Most people cognitively block out this possibility because it is
> so abhorrent, but if you openly look at the evidence, it is the only
> conclusion one can make and you let the evidence take you wherever it goes,
> unless one has ulterior motives. Worldwide polls confirm significant
> disbelief in the official story.  Israel has the most egregious history of
> false flag attacks of any country on the face of the earth.
>
> There is an incredibly well-organized effort by the Jewish academic
> community to utterly stamp out any consideration of investigating 9/11 on a
> university level and the effort is very effective.  George Bush tried to
> stop the formation of the 9/11 Commission but failed.  The final report is
> all but ignored because it is packed with lies and propaganda. The Jewish
> effort to stop any investigation of 9/11 comes from the same place I
> believe.
>
> So, I'm requesting the acceptance of my proposal to participate in your
> show not to significantly change anyone's beliefs, but just to see if
> you'll actually allow it. Are you truly not intimidated by my message. Will
> you actually engage in a debate about the subjects I'm speaking of or will
> you just say they're unimportant, which to me is evidence of ulterior
> motives.
>
> I've been at this quest for the truth now for 14 years and have seen just
> about every method of rejection there is.  It's actually quite fascinating
> and I've come to the conclusion that alliances, camaraderie and a sense of
> belonging most of the time will trump acceptance of the truth in the world
> of politics. The cognitive dissonance created by being subjected to a view
> that is not in one's own sphere of people with similar beliefs
> overwhelmingly clouds easily recognizable evidence.
>
> I'm also very interested in what level or bar does a piece of evidence
> have to overcome in order for someone to admit that it is significant and
> deserves more investigation. For example, No steel highrise structure
> before or since 9/11 has collapsed or been destroyed by fuel fires or plane
> crashes? (not even considering that they fell at free fall speeds) ... In
> the world of criminal science, typically it only requires one significant
> piece of evidence to turn the direction of an investigation. Scientifically
> speaking it is 99.99999999% impossible for this collapse to happen, but in
> the case of 9/11 thousands of similarly weighted pieces of evidence are
> totally ignored. If a thief leaves fingerprints all over the scene of a
> crime, what is one to believe?
>
> But this leads to this thought:  hypothetically speaking ... if Israel was
> actually investigated and found guilty of perpetrating a false flag attack
> in order to further its interest, would this not be a mind-blowing
> occurrence that would utterly overwhelm any other political topics, change
> the face of global politics, put into question the whole 'war on terror'
> and even have an effect on our interpretation of ISIS which is a direct
> consequence of the illegal war on Iraq ... which was rationalized by 9/11
> ...on and on. Anyone denying the importance of this thought is doing so
> irrationally in my opinion. There are powerful forces stopping any kind of
> investigation.
>
> Anti-Semitism is related and has been growing dramatically in the last few
> years. I closely watch and study this phenomenon and don't believe it is
> just because of the Palestinian issue. The internet is flooded with
> evidence of Israel's complicity in the 9/11 attack and it is prompting
> people to take a second look, which can lead all the way back to the
> Bolshevik revolution and actually the expulsions of Jews throughout the
> last two millennia. Anti-Semitism is in part on the rise because of the
> increased belief in the complicity of Israel in 9/11.
>
> The internet is of much greater importance that what is generally
> believed.  Who would have thought that Donald Trump would be where he is at
> this point in the election cycle. He has literally torn to shreds the GOP
> mantra... not so much him but all the masses who have voted for him and are
> sick and tired of the wars and corruption of our government. They want a
> say in their future and are rejecting the 'establishment'. Anti-Semitism is
> expanding under the same sort of phenomena. The MSM no longer has the grip
> it used to.  People are waking up and are asking what is the real history
> of the State of Israel.
>
> On a local scale, it is very easy to contain this anti-Semitism. I know.
> I've been black-listed and ignored, but on a global scale I have not been
> ignored. My website is really a reflection of global beliefs.  It doesn't
> create traffic per se, it reports on the quantity of people who are
> interested in its content. It's like a barometer more than anything else.
> My beliefs are still in the minority but are changing rapidly and the
> extent of anti-Semitism is an indicator of those changes.
>
> If you decide to include me in one of your shows, I promise not to bring
> up the Holocaust.  I only focused on it before because of that individual
> who kept attacking me ... I have forgotten his name.
> I will be as civil as everyone else and respect all views. Please try to
> prove my wrong if you wish. I will listen to your arguments attentively.
>
> Sincerely,
> Steve Francis
> http://www.newsfollowup.com
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0It_Q2qh6JQMLwKw1nB8Bg
>
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