[Peace-discuss] Donald Trump May Select an Architect of Bush's Torture Program to Run CIA

C. G. Estabrook carl at newsfromneptune.com
Sat Nov 12 21:24:44 UTC 2016


So you were speaking metaphorically - not about an actual meeting to come…?


> On Nov 12, 2016, at 3:21 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> 
> Sorry. You were not there. But we met in Expresso Royale across from the Law Building to plan our Killer Koh Rally.
> Fab
> 
> 
> Francis A. Boyle
> Law Building
> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
> Champaign IL 61820 USA
> 217-333-7954 (phone)
> 217-244-1478 (fax)
> (personal comments only)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. G. Estabrook [mailto:carl at newsfromneptune.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 3:20 PM
> To: Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>
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> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Donald Trump May Select an Architect of Bush's Torture Program to Run CIA
> 
> I don’t understand the reference to  meeting across the street.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 1:21 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Carl:  Having read the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal yesterday and today:It looks like Trump  has already been captured. We have another struggle ahead of us. And I would kindly ask everyone on this list not to dignify the Law Building with your presence. We can always meet across the street for coffee  like we did the morning of our Rally against Killer Koh and the so-called College of "Law." Thanks again for being there.
>> Fab
>> Ed Norton Professor of Law
>> Carl Schmitt College of Law--"Mein fuhrer, I can walk!"
>> 
>> Francis A. Boyle
>> Law Building
>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
>> Champaign IL 61820 USA
>> 217-333-7954 (phone)
>> 217-244-1478 (fax)
>> (personal comments only)
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: C. G. Estabrook [mailto:carl at newsfromneptune.com] 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 12:41 PM
>> To: Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>
>> Cc: peace-discuss at anti-war.net; futureup2us at gmail.com; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Hoffman, Valerie J <vhoffman at illinois.edu>; Miller, Joseph Thomas <jtmiller at illinois.edu>; Szoke, Ron <r-szoke at illinois.edu>; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; a23h23 at yahoo.com; davidcnswanson at gmail.com; abass10 at gmail.com; davetrippel at ameritech.net; mickalideh at gmail.com; lina at worldcantwait.net; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien <moboct1 at aim.com>; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net
>> Subject: Re: Donald Trump May Select an Architect of Bush's Torture Program to Run CIA
>> 
>> As Mark Twain is supposed to have said, history doesn't repeat itself - but it does rhyme.
>> 
>> In the decline of the American Empire, underway since its peak in 1945, our rulers have consciously substituted military repression for world-wide economic development, especially in regard to Eurasia. They've protected the profits of the 1% and - particularly since the 1970s - encouraged the increasing (and accelerating) concentration of wealth in the hands of fewer and fewer people.
>> 
>> Our choice is to stand with that - and hope it's done nicely, without unnecessary killing - or oppose it, with the majority of the population of our country and the world.
>> 
>> Today, we need to begin by working to see that the Trump administration is not captured by the neoliberals and neoconservatives who have dominated all recent administrations, including particularly Obama's. 
>> 
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