[Peace-discuss] Good news, well better than anything else so far:

Fri Nov 18 13:50:33 UTC 2016

We should have a very interesting conversation on NFN today.

On Nov 18, 2016, at 05:24, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu<mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:

Obviously, he’s part of Putin’s evil plot (that included Jill) to deny Hillary her turn:

"In December 2015, Flynn was paid to fly to Moscow to attend a dinner for RT, the Kremlin-funded news outlet, where he sat next to Russian President Vladimir Putin. Also at the table was U.S. Green Party candidate for president, Jill Stein.”

Maybe the reason for the State Dept.’s unhinged outburst against RT yesterday?

US liberals will need what Bertie Wooster would call a restorative this morning: a Tea-Partier will be head of the CIA...

On Nov 18, 2016, at 7:04 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com<mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>> wrote:

Sorry Carl, he looks really awful.

While this article and the one in Common Dreams are written from a Democratic perspective, blaming the Bush administration for most of the crimes committed, letting the Obama/Hillary clan off the hook, If what is said in respect to his views, his hatred for Muslims, his support for torture, disdain for International Law as well as our laws, then just his hatred for Hillary/ Obama and McChrystal isn’t going to solve anything or end our perpetual wars.

RT often has controversial people on their program, in order to offer  balance. They just interviewed James Woolsey, and I didn’t get the impression he was liked.

On Nov 18, 2016, at 04:43, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu<mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:

He has some of the right enemies (McChrystal) - and maybe friends (RT):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trumps-pick-for-national-security-adviser-brings-experience-and-controversy/2016/11/17/0962eb88-ad08-11e6-8b45-f8e493f06fcd_story.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.washingtonpost.com_world_national-2Dsecurity_trumps-2Dpick-2Dfor-2Dnational-2Dsecurity-2Dadviser-2Dbrings-2Dexperience-2Dand-2Dcontroversy_2016_11_17_0962eb88-2Dad08-2D11e6-2D8b45-2Df8e493f06fcd-5Fstory.html&d=DQMGaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=rnj07coFlk1FZdqT1Jx9FoYhE7ywWUBk3FlTWShkQJc&s=oHBijUmJM896luAkBFjEAGyLLWXnBXLybM9x1zAUPFE&e=>

On Nov 18, 2016, at 6:36 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Well this is not good, and is my fear that his discontent with “our wars” is merely “strategy”.

On Nov 17, 2016, at 21:04, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com<mailto:davegreen84 at yahoo.com>> wrote:

An alternative and less hopeful view:

Meet the Islamophobic Black-Ops Master Likely to Head Trump's National Security Team<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.commondreams.org_news_2016_11_17_meet-2Dislamophobic-2Dblack-2Dops-2Dmaster-2Dlikely-2Dhead-2Dtrumps-2Dnational-2Dsecurity-2Dteam&d=DQMGaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=QQ2t-ORi7w_pdvxZWgeBxXetIBC5Yf5E7IHNmto4CiU&s=_H7cDuUT7iS8NHur291fnXO32s3Q4ETbyKYHiIzXwWc&e=>

<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.commondreams.org_news_2016_11_17_meet-2Dislamophobic-2Dblack-2Dops-2Dmaster-2Dlikely-2Dhead-2Dtrumps-2Dnational-2Dsecurity-2Dteam&d=DQMGaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=QQ2t-ORi7w_pdvxZWgeBxXetIBC5Yf5E7IHNmto4CiU&s=_H7cDuUT7iS8NHur291fnXO32s3Q4ETbyKYHiIzXwWc&e=>

Meet the Islamophobic Black-Ops Master Likely to Head Trump's National ...
Amid the many rumored reports of President-elect Donald Trump's likely cabinet picks, one name that has rise...

On Thursday, November 17, 2016 9:02 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

"President-elect Donald Trump has offered retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn the role of national security adviser, a transition official said."
"It was not immediately clear if Flynn has accepted."
"Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, was a top adviser and high-profile surrogate to Trump during his campaign.” CNN Breaking News

Flynn, was forced into early retirement as a result of his dissatisfaction with the way we are fighting ISIS, and he despises Hillary. More than that I don't know, but I assume he knows we have been supporting ISIS with military weapons and training etc., and opposes perpetual war.
Hope springs eternal, as they say.

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