From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Thu Sep 1 11:10:59 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 06:10:59 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Chicago Rally with Jill Stein & Ajamu Baraka Message-ID: <002d01d20441$88efd4d0$9acf7e70$@comcast.net> Chicago Rally with Jill Stein & Ajamu Baraka Description: Jillbanner.jpg Jill Stein, Green Party -- the only Presidential candidate who stands strong for People, Planet, and Peace. Meet her in Chicago! Green Party Presidential candidate Dr. Jill Stein will be appearing at the Preston Bradley Center in Chicago's Uptown neighborhood on Thursday, Sept. 8th from 7 to 9 PM. Dr. Stein expects to address an audience of roughly 1,000 supporters. Green Party Vice-Presidential candidate Ajamu Baraka will speak as well. They will be joined by Chicago activists, community representatives, and Illinois Green Party candidates for statewide and local offices. Jill says: It's time to build a people's movement to end unemployment and poverty; avert climate catastrophe; build a sustainable, just economy; and recognize the dignity and human rights of every person. The power to create this new world is not in our hopes; it's not in our dreams - it's in our hands! FLYERS & IMAGES FOR PUBLIC USE: Printable 8.5x11" flyer (JPEG) Printable 8.5x11" flyer (PDF) Square shareable Facebook flyer Event banner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 32194 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Sep 1 13:58:38 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:58:38 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Fake State of Hawaii Day, August 21, 2016:"SOVEREIGNTY CONVERSATIONS Francis Boyle Speaks 8 20 21 2016 Nation of Hawai'i 5930" Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:49 AM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' Subject: Fake State of Hawaii Day, August 21, 2016:"SOVEREIGNTY CONVERSATIONS Francis Boyle Speaks 8 20 21 2016 Nation of Hawai'i 5930" A speech I just gave at Iolani Palace on the Fake State of Hawaii Day, August 21. It starts at 20 minutes. I had just returned from a 2 ½ Family Vacation up near Traverse City Michigan. So no haircut. Fab. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Francis Boyle via YouTube [mailto:noreply at youtube.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 6:09 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Francis Boyle sent you a video: "SOVEREIGNTY CONVERSATIONS Francis Boyle Speaks 8 20 21 2016 Nation of Hawai'i 5930" [http://s.ytimg.com/yt/img/email/digest/email_header.png] [https://yt3.ggpht.com/-w4phvYGWivc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/_Vq2X19VNEk/s50-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg] Francis Boyle has shared a video with you on YouTube [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gyx5dJ14BHQ/mqdefault.jpg] SOVEREIGNTY CONVERSATIONS Francis Boyle Speaks 8 20 21 2016 Nation of Hawai'i 5930 by Share Your Story Sovereignty Conversations - Francis Boyle Speaks 8 20 - 21 2016 at the Nation of Hawai'i Pu`uhonua O Waimanalo & Iolani Palace along with other speakers 5930 Help center • Report spam ©2016 YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[https://external.ford4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQCvSAMDmkISccbU&w=476&h=249&url=https%3A%2F%2Fprod01-cdn05.cdn.firstlook.org%2Fwp-uploads%2Fsites%2F1%2F2015%2F10%2FSQ01_TheAssassinationComplex01-feature-hero.jpg&cfs=1&upscale=1&sx=0&sy=0&sw=1200&sh=628] Leaked military documents expose the inner workings of Obama’s drone wars The whistleblower who leaked the drone papers believes the public is entitled to know how people are placed on kill lists and assassinated on orders from the… THEINTERCEPT.COM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 1 17:24:02 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1672322389.3508193.1472750642153@mail.yahoo.com> I may be mistaken, but it appears that Prof. Boyle's contributions to this stream are now being ignored and I assume this to be the case because of his contributions to the Academic Freedom Conference II.  I site Mr. Green's comment that he was disappointed in Prof. Boyle and that all the other participants in the conference were 'trash' and that most of his colleagues agree. This is very uncivil but not unexpected.An interesting point made in the conference by Jim Fetzer was that both Newton and Einstein were wrong or misguided about the Theory of Gravity and the importance of Quantum Theory respectively.  He went on to compare these errors to the propagandized infallibility of Holocaust orthodoxy, which seems to suggest that Holocaust orthodoxy is beyond review and might I add to test otherwise one's academic career will be destroyed.This is obviously nonsense. The Theory of Gravity and the importance of Quantum Theory are far beyond the scope of the events of the supposed Holocaust and that it (Holohoax) should be subject to scientific inquiry and should subject to revision in the face of scientific evidence.  To do otherwise is to confirm my suspicion that politics, alliances and self-deception are trumping the truth in this instance.I invite anyone to refute or argue these points.Stephen Francis On Thursday, September 1, 2016 11:46 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Intercept:KillerKoh/Clinton/Obama/Drone Murder Campaign at       Illinois Law Oct. 28 (Boyle, Francis A)   2. FW: WORLD LABOR HOUR - 2-HOUR LABOR DAY SPECIAL    PROGRAM       (David Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 16:08:50 +0000 From: "Boyle, Francis A" To: Amanda Bass , "'Karen Aram'"     , "'C. G. Estabrook'" , "'C. G.     Estabrook'" , "'Peace Discuss'"     , "'David Green'" ,     "'David Johnson'" , "'Stuart Levy'"     , "'Karen Medina'" ,     "Szoke, Ron" , "'Mildred O'brien'"     , "'Peace Discuss'" ,     "'peace at lists.chambana.net'" ,     "'davegreen84 at yahoo.com'" , "Readel, Karin"     , "Estabrook, Carl G" ,     "'Belden Fields'" , "'jmachota at shout.net'"     , "'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing     List'" , "'Bryan Savage'"     , "Hoffman, Valerie J"     , "Miller, Joseph Thomas"     , "sherwoodross10 at gmail.com"     Subject: [Peace-discuss] Intercept:KillerKoh/Clinton/Obama/Drone     Murder Campaign at Illinois Law Oct. 28 Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hey! Hey! Illinois Law Say! How many kids! Did you kill today! October 28! To get Clinton as  President! In Ten Days! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/the-assassination-complex/ This is a must read. Please share. [https://external.ford4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQCvSAMDmkISccbU&w=476&h=249&url=https%3A%2F%2Fprod01-cdn05.cdn.firstlook.org%2Fwp-uploads%2Fsites%2F1%2F2015%2F10%2FSQ01_TheAssassinationComplex01-feature-hero.jpg&cfs=1&upscale=1&sx=0&sy=0&sw=1200&sh=628] Leaked military documents expose the inner workings of Obama’s drone wars The whistleblower who leaked the drone papers believes the public is entitled to know how people are placed on kill lists and assassinated on orders from the… THEINTERCEPT.COM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 1 17:40:57 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Prof. Boyle / Killer Koh References: <762868462.3348861.1472751657662.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <762868462.3348861.1472751657662@mail.yahoo.com> additional thoughts to: I may be mistaken, but it appears that Prof. Boyle's contributions to this stream are now being ignored and I assume this to be the case because of his contributions to the Academic Freedom Conference II.  I site Mr. Green's comment that he was disappointed in Prof. Boyle and that all the other participants in the conference were 'trash' and that most of his colleagues agree. This is very uncivil but not unexpected.An interesting point made in the conference by Jim Fetzer was that both Newton and Einstein were wrong or misguided about the Theory of Gravity and the importance of Quantum Theory respectively.  He went on to compare these errors to the propagandized infallibility of Holocaust orthodoxy, which seems to suggest that Holocaust orthodoxy is beyond review and might I add to test otherwise one's academic career will be destroyed.This is obviously nonsense. The Theory of Gravity and the importance of Quantum Theory are far beyond the scope of the events of the supposed Holocaust and that it (Holohoax) should be subject to scientific inquiry and should subject to revision in the face of scientific evidence.  To do otherwise is to confirm my suspicion that politics, alliances and self-deception are trumping the truth in this instance.I invite anyone to refute or argue these points.Stephen Francis I would like to add that Prof. Carey Nelson has specifically stated that he would not advance the career of anyone who promoted Holocaust revision and that this is tantamount to destroying anyone's career. Is Prof. Boyle now a target? Is ignoring him the first step? The Academic Freedom Conference II contains Holocaust revision material and now could be associated with him. Do you have the courage to do this? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 2 01:09:27 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 01:09:27 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:03 PM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' Subject: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Champaign-Urbana Native Georgie Porgie Will and Nicky Rosenkrantz deserve each other: "...the appropriation power, Rosenkrantz testified, is Congress' "most potent check on executive overreach"-"the ultimate backstop" against "a willful president." If Presidents could disburse money without an appropriation, "the careful constitutional separation of powers would be thrown into disequilibrium."" ----------------------------------------------- As if Nicky could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, or the Rule of Law, or the Separation of Powers, or the Hyperimperial Presidency. Nicky tried to get hired here. His resume clearly stated that he had worked for the war criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith at the Department of Injustice, Office of Legal Counsel. Nicky used the war criminals Yoo and Goldsmith as his personal references to be hired. The Yale Law Mafia in operation again, including the Chair of our Appointments Committee and later fired Dean. I went ballistic with the Faculty: We are not going to hire a War Criminal on my watch and over my dead body! Those concerns did not bother the Faculty at Georgetown Law, where the guiding principle is as cited by Georgie Porgie Will: "What's the Constitution between friends?" Good riddance to Nicky Rosenkrantz and Georgetown Law! Fab. Georgetown Law December 1976 Right out of HLS Looking for a job So the path took me To Georgetown Law 2 days of interviews Seemed to go alright Then ushered in to meet Dean Butch Fisher Who bragged about being The youngest legal advisor In the history of the State Department 36 Not impressed But would play the game Mr Boyle The Faculty would like to hire you But we believe you need More seasoning Salt or pepper, I wondered We would like you to go work For DOS Legal Advisor for 4 or 5 years And then we will hire you Are you f-ing serious Sell my soul After State just spent The past 15 years Committing genocide in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos Exterminating upwards of 3 million human beings Murdering 58,000 of my generation Some of whom were friends Are you f-ing serious Dean Butch Who do you think you're dealing with I politely declined and came here Back then ranked the same as Georgetown Law So I came out alright But not to have the taint Of the State Department After my name Where things have never changed Murder, death, destruction, invasions Assassinations, drones, genocide Harold Koh fit right in like a glove Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 2 02:50:52 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 02:50:52 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just some more background information here. Under NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd our Appointments Chair was Yale Law Mafia Bruce Smith. The two of them tried to hire Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Rosenkrantz, with the notorious Torture Lawyer War Criminal Yale Law Mafia John Yoo listed on his resume as his Boss and personal reference for the job. Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Goldsmith replaced Yoo and was also on Rosenkrantz's resume and serving as a personal reference for the job. Yale Law Mafia and War Criminal Harold Killer Koh was the "teacher" and "mentor" to Yoo and proud of it, according to a former Yale Law Grad now a law prof in his own right. I objected to them hiring Rosenkrantz in the strongest terms possible. Then Smith personally complained to me that I was "making it very hard" for him to hire people. I sure was. Hurd was fired because of her gross ethical violations including but not limited to her Role in the Clout Scandal. It was a real Peyton Place around here under NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd. Yale Law Mafia Bruce Smith took her place as Dean and proceeded to hire Yale Law Mafia people. Smith was later fired for the role he played in the Admissions Statistics Fixing Scandal, also involving Hurd and the two Acting Deans falling in between them . Both Smith and Hurd and the two Acting Deans and the College of Law were condemned and sanctioned $250,000 by the American Bar Association for it. Our new Dean is a Yale Law Mafia person who has invited in the War Criminal Yale Law Mafia Harold Killer Koh to speak on October 28 to get his Yale Law Mafia Boss War Criminal Mrs. Clinton elected President 10 days later. And in violation of an Illinois Statute that strictly prohibits the use of any University Resources for such partisan electoral purposes. It would all be comedic if it were not so tragic. Fab. Senior Law Faculty Professor Here. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:09 PM To: Amanda Bass ; 'Karen Aram' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Green' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: FW: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:03 PM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' > Subject: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Champaign-Urbana Native Georgie Porgie Will and Nicky Rosenkrantz deserve each other: "...the appropriation power, Rosenkrantz testified, is Congress' "most potent check on executive overreach"-"the ultimate backstop" against "a willful president." If Presidents could disburse money without an appropriation, "the careful constitutional separation of powers would be thrown into disequilibrium."" ----------------------------------------------- As if Nicky could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, or the Rule of Law, or the Separation of Powers, or the Hyperimperial Presidency. Nicky tried to get hired here. His resume clearly stated that he had worked for the war criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith at the Department of Injustice, Office of Legal Counsel. Nicky used the war criminals Yoo and Goldsmith as his personal references to be hired. The Yale Law Mafia in operation again, including the Chair of our Appointments Committee and later fired Dean. I went ballistic with the Faculty: We are not going to hire a War Criminal on my watch and over my dead body! Those concerns did not bother the Faculty at Georgetown Law, where the guiding principle is as cited by Georgie Porgie Will: "What's the Constitution between friends?" Good riddance to Nicky Rosenkrantz and Georgetown Law! Fab. Georgetown Law December 1976 Right out of HLS Looking for a job So the path took me To Georgetown Law 2 days of interviews Seemed to go alright Then ushered in to meet Dean Butch Fisher Who bragged about being The youngest legal advisor In the history of the State Department 36 Not impressed But would play the game Mr Boyle The Faculty would like to hire you But we believe you need More seasoning Salt or pepper, I wondered We would like you to go work For DOS Legal Advisor for 4 or 5 years And then we will hire you Are you f-ing serious Sell my soul After State just spent The past 15 years Committing genocide in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos Exterminating upwards of 3 million human beings Murdering 58,000 of my generation Some of whom were friends Are you f-ing serious Dean Butch Who do you think you're dealing with I politely declined and came here Back then ranked the same as Georgetown Law So I came out alright But not to have the taint Of the State Department After my name Where things have never changed Murder, death, destruction, invasions Assassinations, drones, genocide Harold Koh fit right in like a glove Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 2 03:04:57 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 03:04:57 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette References: Message-ID: And as I said before, the University of Illinois College of Law Faculty are not fit to educate Lawyers, Members of the Bar, and Officers of the Court. Fab. Lawyer since January 10, 1977 Law Professor here since August 16, 1978 Senior Member of this Law Faculty Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 9:51 PM To: Amanda Bass ; 'Karen Aram' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Green' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: RE: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Just some more background information here. Under NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd our Appointments Chair was Yale Law Mafia Bruce Smith. The two of them tried to hire Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Rosenkrantz, with the notorious Torture Lawyer War Criminal Yale Law Mafia John Yoo listed on his resume as his Boss and personal reference for the job. Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Goldsmith replaced Yoo and was also on Rosenkrantz's resume and serving as a personal reference for the job. Yale Law Mafia and War Criminal Harold Killer Koh was the "teacher" and "mentor" to Yoo and proud of it, according to a former Yale Law Grad now a law prof in his own right. I objected to them hiring Rosenkrantz in the strongest terms possible. Then Smith personally complained to me that I was "making it very hard" for him to hire people. I sure was. Hurd was fired because of her gross ethical violations including but not limited to her Role in the Clout Scandal. It was a real Peyton Place around here under NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd. Yale Law Mafia Bruce Smith took her place as Dean and proceeded to hire Yale Law Mafia people. Smith was later fired for the role he played in the Admissions Statistics Fixing Scandal, also involving Hurd and the two Acting Deans falling in between them . Both Smith and Hurd and the two Acting Deans and the College of Law were condemned and sanctioned $250,000 by the American Bar Association for it. Our new Dean is a Yale Law Mafia person who has invited in the War Criminal Yale Law Mafia Harold Killer Koh to speak on October 28 to get his Yale Law Mafia Boss War Criminal Mrs. Clinton elected President 10 days later. And in violation of an Illinois Statute that strictly prohibits the use of any University Resources for such partisan electoral purposes. It would all be comedic if it were not so tragic. Fab. Senior Law Faculty Professor Here. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:09 PM To: Amanda Bass >; 'Karen Aram' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Green' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: FW: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:03 PM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' > Subject: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Champaign-Urbana Native Georgie Porgie Will and Nicky Rosenkrantz deserve each other: "...the appropriation power, Rosenkrantz testified, is Congress' "most potent check on executive overreach"-"the ultimate backstop" against "a willful president." If Presidents could disburse money without an appropriation, "the careful constitutional separation of powers would be thrown into disequilibrium."" ----------------------------------------------- As if Nicky could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, or the Rule of Law, or the Separation of Powers, or the Hyperimperial Presidency. Nicky tried to get hired here. His resume clearly stated that he had worked for the war criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith at the Department of Injustice, Office of Legal Counsel. Nicky used the war criminals Yoo and Goldsmith as his personal references to be hired. The Yale Law Mafia in operation again, including the Chair of our Appointments Committee and later fired Dean. I went ballistic with the Faculty: We are not going to hire a War Criminal on my watch and over my dead body! Those concerns did not bother the Faculty at Georgetown Law, where the guiding principle is as cited by Georgie Porgie Will: "What's the Constitution between friends?" Good riddance to Nicky Rosenkrantz and Georgetown Law! Fab. Georgetown Law December 1976 Right out of HLS Looking for a job So the path took me To Georgetown Law 2 days of interviews Seemed to go alright Then ushered in to meet Dean Butch Fisher Who bragged about being The youngest legal advisor In the history of the State Department 36 Not impressed But would play the game Mr Boyle The Faculty would like to hire you But we believe you need More seasoning Salt or pepper, I wondered We would like you to go work For DOS Legal Advisor for 4 or 5 years And then we will hire you Are you f-ing serious Sell my soul After State just spent The past 15 years Committing genocide in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos Exterminating upwards of 3 million human beings Murdering 58,000 of my generation Some of whom were friends Are you f-ing serious Dean Butch Who do you think you're dealing with I politely declined and came here Back then ranked the same as Georgetown Law So I came out alright But not to have the taint Of the State Department After my name Where things have never changed Murder, death, destruction, invasions Assassinations, drones, genocide Harold Koh fit right in like a glove Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 2 03:08:14 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 03:08:14 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Correction: Sorry that should be law professor here since August 21, 1978. They moved up the appointment date to August 16 since then. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 10:05 PM To: Amanda Bass ; 'Karen Aram' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Green' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: RE: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette And as I said before, the University of Illinois College of Law Faculty are not fit to educate Lawyers, Members of the Bar, and Officers of the Court. Fab. Lawyer since January 10, 1977 Law Professor here since August 16, 1978 Senior Member of this Law Faculty Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 9:51 PM To: Amanda Bass >; 'Karen Aram' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Green' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: RE: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Just some more background information here. Under NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd our Appointments Chair was Yale Law Mafia Bruce Smith. The two of them tried to hire Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Rosenkrantz, with the notorious Torture Lawyer War Criminal Yale Law Mafia John Yoo listed on his resume as his Boss and personal reference for the job. Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Goldsmith replaced Yoo and was also on Rosenkrantz's resume and serving as a personal reference for the job. Yale Law Mafia and War Criminal Harold Killer Koh was the "teacher" and "mentor" to Yoo and proud of it, according to a former Yale Law Grad now a law prof in his own right. I objected to them hiring Rosenkrantz in the strongest terms possible. Then Smith personally complained to me that I was "making it very hard" for him to hire people. I sure was. Hurd was fired because of her gross ethical violations including but not limited to her Role in the Clout Scandal. It was a real Peyton Place around here under NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd. Yale Law Mafia Bruce Smith took her place as Dean and proceeded to hire Yale Law Mafia people. Smith was later fired for the role he played in the Admissions Statistics Fixing Scandal, also involving Hurd and the two Acting Deans falling in between them . Both Smith and Hurd and the two Acting Deans and the College of Law were condemned and sanctioned $250,000 by the American Bar Association for it. Our new Dean is a Yale Law Mafia person who has invited in the War Criminal Yale Law Mafia Harold Killer Koh to speak on October 28 to get his Yale Law Mafia Boss War Criminal Mrs. Clinton elected President 10 days later. And in violation of an Illinois Statute that strictly prohibits the use of any University Resources for such partisan electoral purposes. It would all be comedic if it were not so tragic. Fab. Senior Law Faculty Professor Here. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:09 PM To: Amanda Bass >; 'Karen Aram' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Green' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: FW: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:03 PM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' > Subject: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Champaign-Urbana Native Georgie Porgie Will and Nicky Rosenkrantz deserve each other: "...the appropriation power, Rosenkrantz testified, is Congress' "most potent check on executive overreach"-"the ultimate backstop" against "a willful president." If Presidents could disburse money without an appropriation, "the careful constitutional separation of powers would be thrown into disequilibrium."" ----------------------------------------------- As if Nicky could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, or the Rule of Law, or the Separation of Powers, or the Hyperimperial Presidency. Nicky tried to get hired here. His resume clearly stated that he had worked for the war criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith at the Department of Injustice, Office of Legal Counsel. Nicky used the war criminals Yoo and Goldsmith as his personal references to be hired. The Yale Law Mafia in operation again, including the Chair of our Appointments Committee and later fired Dean. I went ballistic with the Faculty: We are not going to hire a War Criminal on my watch and over my dead body! Those concerns did not bother the Faculty at Georgetown Law, where the guiding principle is as cited by Georgie Porgie Will: "What's the Constitution between friends?" Good riddance to Nicky Rosenkrantz and Georgetown Law! Fab. Georgetown Law December 1976 Right out of HLS Looking for a job So the path took me To Georgetown Law 2 days of interviews Seemed to go alright Then ushered in to meet Dean Butch Fisher Who bragged about being The youngest legal advisor In the history of the State Department 36 Not impressed But would play the game Mr Boyle The Faculty would like to hire you But we believe you need More seasoning Salt or pepper, I wondered We would like you to go work For DOS Legal Advisor for 4 or 5 years And then we will hire you Are you f-ing serious Sell my soul After State just spent The past 15 years Committing genocide in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos Exterminating upwards of 3 million human beings Murdering 58,000 of my generation Some of whom were friends Are you f-ing serious Dean Butch Who do you think you're dealing with I politely declined and came here Back then ranked the same as Georgetown Law So I came out alright But not to have the taint Of the State Department After my name Where things have never changed Murder, death, destruction, invasions Assassinations, drones, genocide Harold Koh fit right in like a glove Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 2 12:18:43 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 12:18:43 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:17 AM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' Subject: C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette "In the end," { Feddie Boy(den) George} Gray testified, "every other constitutional power runs into the appropriations power...designed to prevent the president..." As if the Feddie Boy George Gray could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, the Rule of Law, Separation of Powers or the Hyperimperial Presidency just like his Co-Panelist Nicky Rosenkrantz, the lackey for War Criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith could not. But hey, don't take my word for it. Have a look at what the late, great Judge Lawrence Walsh had to say about Boy George Gray and the Feddies: >From Iran-contra Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh, Firewall: According to the conventional wisdom, we were in a double bind: The judges appointed by Democratic presidents were supposedly most concerned with protecting the constitutional rights of persons prosecuted for crimes, while most of the other judges owed their appointments to Ronald Reagan or George Bush, who had stated publicly and emphatically that they hoped that North would not be convicted. Over the years, I had often found such simplistic views to be wrong. Most judges overcome the prejudices and alliances they had when appointed to the federal bench. During my three and one-half years on the federal district court in New York, I had experienced the merging process by which new judges are absorbed into their courts. My hard-line political and professional views had moderated during lunchroom conversations with Learned Hand, Jerome Frank, and Harold Medina and had dissolved after a couple of my decisions had been reversed on appeal. But I was concerned about the continuing political allegiance of Republican judges as manifested in the Federalist Society. Although the organization was not openly partisan, its dogma was political. It reminded me of the communist front groups of the 1940s and l950s, whose members were committed to the communist cause and subject to communist direction but were not card-carrying members of the Communist Party. In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E.Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, Illinois 61820 Phone: 217-333-7954 Fax: 217-244-1478 fboyle at law.uiuc.edu 9 September 1997 Memorandum TO: Robert H. Bork Federalist Society Dear Bob: Concerning your fund-raising letter of 28 August that just came to my attention, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for publicly associating me with a Lawyer and a Judge who has the principles, courage and integrity of Lawrence Walsh. For your information, that message and others like out were sent out all over the internet, not just to 30 professors, together with the full text of Judge Walsh's attack on the Federalist Society. Out of respect for Judge Walsh, I certainly do hope that my professorial colleagues will pay the most serious attention to what he had to say about the Federalist Society. After all, Judge Walsh is a pillar of the American Legal Establishment and of the Republican Party. As for myself, I have always been a political independent and resent your implication that I am a member of the Democrat Party. Be that as it may, it seems to me that you have only (once again!) made a fool of yourself by publicly attacking a Lawyer and a Judge with the courage, integrity and principles of Judge Walsh--characteristics that you yourself were not noted for as Solicitor General (when you fired Archie Cox, the first Special Prosecutor), during your tenure on the bench, or during your Supreme Court nomination hearings. Rather than publicly attacking Judge Walsh, I suggest that you personally as well as the Federalist Society institutionally should be giving the most serious consideration to what he had to say. Yours very truly, Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law cc: Judge Lawrence Walsh Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:03 PM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' > Subject: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Champaign-Urbana Native Georgie Porgie Will and Nicky Rosenkrantz deserve each other: "...the appropriation power, Rosenkrantz testified, is Congress' "most potent check on executive overreach"-"the ultimate backstop" against "a willful president." If Presidents could disburse money without an appropriation, "the careful constitutional separation of powers would be thrown into disequilibrium."" ----------------------------------------------- As if Nicky could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, or the Rule of Law, or the Separation of Powers, or the Hyperimperial Presidency. Nicky tried to get hired here. His resume clearly stated that he had worked for the war criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith at the Department of Injustice, Office of Legal Counsel. Nicky used the war criminals Yoo and Goldsmith as his personal references to be hired. The Yale Law Mafia in operation again, including the Chair of our Appointments Committee and later fired Dean. I went ballistic with the Faculty: We are not going to hire a War Criminal on my watch and over my dead body! Those concerns did not bother the Faculty at Georgetown Law, where the guiding principle is as cited by Georgie Porgie Will: "What's the Constitution between friends?" Good riddance to Nicky Rosenkrantz and Georgetown Law! Fab. Georgetown Law December 1976 Right out of HLS Looking for a job So the path took me To Georgetown Law 2 days of interviews Seemed to go alright Then ushered in to meet Dean Butch Fisher Who bragged about being The youngest legal advisor In the history of the State Department 36 Not impressed But would play the game Mr Boyle The Faculty would like to hire you But we believe you need More seasoning Salt or pepper, I wondered We would like you to go work For DOS Legal Advisor for 4 or 5 years And then we will hire you Are you f-ing serious Sell my soul After State just spent The past 15 years Committing genocide in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos Exterminating upwards of 3 million human beings Murdering 58,000 of my generation Some of whom were friends Are you f-ing serious Dean Butch Who do you think you're dealing with I politely declined and came here Back then ranked the same as Georgetown Law So I came out alright But not to have the taint Of the State Department After my name Where things have never changed Murder, death, destruction, invasions Assassinations, drones, genocide Harold Koh fit right in like a glove Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 2 12:33:38 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 12:33:38 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette Message-ID: The University of Illinois College of Law Faculty are Chock Full of Feddies "Hijacking Justice" every day they teach our law students to become Lawyers who Hijack Justice every day they practice law. And now the Law Faculty are bringing in the War Criminal Harold Killer Koh to serve as Their Role Model for our law students to become Government Lawyers and become War Criminals themselves. Fab. -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:FBOYLE at law.uiuc.edu] Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 6:35 PM To: undisclosed-recipients Subject: HIJACKING JUSTICE:FEDDIES S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:19 AM To: Amanda Bass ; 'Karen Aram' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Green' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: FW: C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:17 AM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' > Subject: C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette "In the end," { Feddie Boy(den) George} Gray testified, "every other constitutional power runs into the appropriations power...designed to prevent the president..." As if the Feddie Boy George Gray could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, the Rule of Law, Separation of Powers or the Hyperimperial Presidency just like his Co-Panelist Nicky Rosenkrantz, the lackey for War Criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith could not. But hey, don't take my word for it. Have a look at what the late, great Judge Lawrence Walsh had to say about Boy George Gray and the Feddies: >From Iran-contra Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh, Firewall: According to the conventional wisdom, we were in a double bind: The judges appointed by Democratic presidents were supposedly most concerned with protecting the constitutional rights of persons prosecuted for crimes, while most of the other judges owed their appointments to Ronald Reagan or George Bush, who had stated publicly and emphatically that they hoped that North would not be convicted. Over the years, I had often found such simplistic views to be wrong. Most judges overcome the prejudices and alliances they had when appointed to the federal bench. During my three and one-half years on the federal district court in New York, I had experienced the merging process by which new judges are absorbed into their courts. My hard-line political and professional views had moderated during lunchroom conversations with Learned Hand, Jerome Frank, and Harold Medina and had dissolved after a couple of my decisions had been reversed on appeal. But I was concerned about the continuing political allegiance of Republican judges as manifested in the Federalist Society. Although the organization was not openly partisan, its dogma was political. It reminded me of the communist front groups of the 1940s and l950s, whose members were committed to the communist cause and subject to communist direction but were not card-carrying members of the Communist Party. In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E.Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, Illinois 61820 Phone: 217-333-7954 Fax: 217-244-1478 fboyle at law.uiuc.edu 9 September 1997 Memorandum TO: Robert H. Bork Federalist Society Dear Bob: Concerning your fund-raising letter of 28 August that just came to my attention, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for publicly associating me with a Lawyer and a Judge who has the principles, courage and integrity of Lawrence Walsh. For your information, that message and others like out were sent out all over the internet, not just to 30 professors, together with the full text of Judge Walsh's attack on the Federalist Society. Out of respect for Judge Walsh, I certainly do hope that my professorial colleagues will pay the most serious attention to what he had to say about the Federalist Society. After all, Judge Walsh is a pillar of the American Legal Establishment and of the Republican Party. As for myself, I have always been a political independent and resent your implication that I am a member of the Democrat Party. Be that as it may, it seems to me that you have only (once again!) made a fool of yourself by publicly attacking a Lawyer and a Judge with the courage, integrity and principles of Judge Walsh--characteristics that you yourself were not noted for as Solicitor General (when you fired Archie Cox, the first Special Prosecutor), during your tenure on the bench, or during your Supreme Court nomination hearings. Rather than publicly attacking Judge Walsh, I suggest that you personally as well as the Federalist Society institutionally should be giving the most serious consideration to what he had to say. Yours very truly, Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law cc: Judge Lawrence Walsh Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:03 PM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' > Subject: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Champaign-Urbana Native Georgie Porgie Will and Nicky Rosenkrantz deserve each other: "...the appropriation power, Rosenkrantz testified, is Congress' "most potent check on executive overreach"-"the ultimate backstop" against "a willful president." If Presidents could disburse money without an appropriation, "the careful constitutional separation of powers would be thrown into disequilibrium."" ----------------------------------------------- As if Nicky could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, or the Rule of Law, or the Separation of Powers, or the Hyperimperial Presidency. Nicky tried to get hired here. His resume clearly stated that he had worked for the war criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith at the Department of Injustice, Office of Legal Counsel. Nicky used the war criminals Yoo and Goldsmith as his personal references to be hired. The Yale Law Mafia in operation again, including the Chair of our Appointments Committee and later fired Dean. I went ballistic with the Faculty: We are not going to hire a War Criminal on my watch and over my dead body! Those concerns did not bother the Faculty at Georgetown Law, where the guiding principle is as cited by Georgie Porgie Will: "What's the Constitution between friends?" Good riddance to Nicky Rosenkrantz and Georgetown Law! Fab. Georgetown Law December 1976 Right out of HLS Looking for a job So the path took me To Georgetown Law 2 days of interviews Seemed to go alright Then ushered in to meet Dean Butch Fisher Who bragged about being The youngest legal advisor In the history of the State Department 36 Not impressed But would play the game Mr Boyle The Faculty would like to hire you But we believe you need More seasoning Salt or pepper, I wondered We would like you to go work For DOS Legal Advisor for 4 or 5 years And then we will hire you Are you f-ing serious Sell my soul After State just spent The past 15 years Committing genocide in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos Exterminating upwards of 3 million human beings Murdering 58,000 of my generation Some of whom were friends Are you f-ing serious Dean Butch Who do you think you're dealing with I politely declined and came here Back then ranked the same as Georgetown Law So I came out alright But not to have the taint Of the State Department After my name Where things have never changed Murder, death, destruction, invasions Assassinations, drones, genocide Harold Koh fit right in like a glove Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 2 13:20:33 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 13:20:33 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette Message-ID: As we all know, many NeoCons and Feddies support Mrs Clinton instead of Trump. So it makes perfect sense for the Feddies, the NeoCons, the Dems, and the Yale Law Mafia on the UI College of Law Faculty to bring Yale Law Mafia Killer Koh out here on October 28 to get Yale Law Mafia Clinton elected President 10 days later. She's a Closet NeoCon anyway. And Killer Koh used to work for Reagan from 1983 to 1985. Killer Koh is a bi-partisan and equal opportunity war criminal. Fab, Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:34 AM To: Amanda Bass ; 'Karen Aram' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Green' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette The University of Illinois College of Law Faculty are Chock Full of Feddies "Hijacking Justice" every day they teach our law students to become Lawyers who Hijack Justice every day they practice law. And now the Law Faculty are bringing in the War Criminal Harold Killer Koh to serve as Their Role Model for our law students to become Government Lawyers and become War Criminals themselves. Fab. -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:FBOYLE at law.uiuc.edu] Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 6:35 PM To: undisclosed-recipients Subject: HIJACKING JUSTICE:FEDDIES S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:19 AM To: Amanda Bass >; 'Karen Aram' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Green' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: FW: C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:17 AM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' > Subject: C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette "In the end," { Feddie Boy(den) George} Gray testified, "every other constitutional power runs into the appropriations power...designed to prevent the president..." As if the Feddie Boy George Gray could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, the Rule of Law, Separation of Powers or the Hyperimperial Presidency just like his Co-Panelist Nicky Rosenkrantz, the lackey for War Criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith could not. But hey, don't take my word for it. Have a look at what the late, great Judge Lawrence Walsh had to say about Boy George Gray and the Feddies: >From Iran-contra Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh, Firewall: According to the conventional wisdom, we were in a double bind: The judges appointed by Democratic presidents were supposedly most concerned with protecting the constitutional rights of persons prosecuted for crimes, while most of the other judges owed their appointments to Ronald Reagan or George Bush, who had stated publicly and emphatically that they hoped that North would not be convicted. Over the years, I had often found such simplistic views to be wrong. Most judges overcome the prejudices and alliances they had when appointed to the federal bench. During my three and one-half years on the federal district court in New York, I had experienced the merging process by which new judges are absorbed into their courts. My hard-line political and professional views had moderated during lunchroom conversations with Learned Hand, Jerome Frank, and Harold Medina and had dissolved after a couple of my decisions had been reversed on appeal. But I was concerned about the continuing political allegiance of Republican judges as manifested in the Federalist Society. Although the organization was not openly partisan, its dogma was political. It reminded me of the communist front groups of the 1940s and l950s, whose members were committed to the communist cause and subject to communist direction but were not card-carrying members of the Communist Party. In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E.Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, Illinois 61820 Phone: 217-333-7954 Fax: 217-244-1478 fboyle at law.uiuc.edu 9 September 1997 Memorandum TO: Robert H. Bork Federalist Society Dear Bob: Concerning your fund-raising letter of 28 August that just came to my attention, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for publicly associating me with a Lawyer and a Judge who has the principles, courage and integrity of Lawrence Walsh. For your information, that message and others like out were sent out all over the internet, not just to 30 professors, together with the full text of Judge Walsh's attack on the Federalist Society. Out of respect for Judge Walsh, I certainly do hope that my professorial colleagues will pay the most serious attention to what he had to say about the Federalist Society. After all, Judge Walsh is a pillar of the American Legal Establishment and of the Republican Party. As for myself, I have always been a political independent and resent your implication that I am a member of the Democrat Party. Be that as it may, it seems to me that you have only (once again!) made a fool of yourself by publicly attacking a Lawyer and a Judge with the courage, integrity and principles of Judge Walsh--characteristics that you yourself were not noted for as Solicitor General (when you fired Archie Cox, the first Special Prosecutor), during your tenure on the bench, or during your Supreme Court nomination hearings. Rather than publicly attacking Judge Walsh, I suggest that you personally as well as the Federalist Society institutionally should be giving the most serious consideration to what he had to say. Yours very truly, Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law cc: Judge Lawrence Walsh Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:03 PM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' > Subject: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Champaign-Urbana Native Georgie Porgie Will and Nicky Rosenkrantz deserve each other: "...the appropriation power, Rosenkrantz testified, is Congress' "most potent check on executive overreach"-"the ultimate backstop" against "a willful president." If Presidents could disburse money without an appropriation, "the careful constitutional separation of powers would be thrown into disequilibrium."" ----------------------------------------------- As if Nicky could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, or the Rule of Law, or the Separation of Powers, or the Hyperimperial Presidency. Nicky tried to get hired here. His resume clearly stated that he had worked for the war criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith at the Department of Injustice, Office of Legal Counsel. Nicky used the war criminals Yoo and Goldsmith as his personal references to be hired. The Yale Law Mafia in operation again, including the Chair of our Appointments Committee and later fired Dean. I went ballistic with the Faculty: We are not going to hire a War Criminal on my watch and over my dead body! Those concerns did not bother the Faculty at Georgetown Law, where the guiding principle is as cited by Georgie Porgie Will: "What's the Constitution between friends?" Good riddance to Nicky Rosenkrantz and Georgetown Law! Fab. Georgetown Law December 1976 Right out of HLS Looking for a job So the path took me To Georgetown Law 2 days of interviews Seemed to go alright Then ushered in to meet Dean Butch Fisher Who bragged about being The youngest legal advisor In the history of the State Department 36 Not impressed But would play the game Mr Boyle The Faculty would like to hire you But we believe you need More seasoning Salt or pepper, I wondered We would like you to go work For DOS Legal Advisor for 4 or 5 years And then we will hire you Are you f-ing serious Sell my soul After State just spent The past 15 years Committing genocide in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos Exterminating upwards of 3 million human beings Murdering 58,000 of my generation Some of whom were friends Are you f-ing serious Dean Butch Who do you think you're dealing with I politely declined and came here Back then ranked the same as Georgetown Law So I came out alright But not to have the taint Of the State Department After my name Where things have never changed Murder, death, destruction, invasions Assassinations, drones, genocide Harold Koh fit right in like a glove Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 2 18:19:06 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 18:19:06 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?Killer_Koh_=26_Clinton=92s_=93Am?= =?windows-1252?q?erican_exceptionalism=94_speech=3A_A_bipartisan_policy_o?= =?windows-1252?q?f_militarism_and_war/Illinois_Law_October_28?= Message-ID: This is exactly the type of lecture we can expect on October 28 when Killer Koh comes out here to the College of Law to campaign for Clinton to get elected president 10 days later. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 2 20:34:25 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 20:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <467978416.534112.1472848465316@mail.yahoo.com> By giving Professor Boyle the cold shoulder now that he has associated with 'trash' you have confirmed my long-held suspicion that you are Zionist sympathizers.That's fine, I will wear my 'trash' label with pride. On Friday, September 2, 2016 8:21 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's Georgie Porgie Will       Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette (Boyle, Francis A) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 13:20:33 +0000 From: "Boyle, Francis A" To: Amanda Bass , "'Karen Aram'"     , "'C. G. Estabrook'" , "'C. G.     Estabrook'" , "'Peace Discuss'"     , "'David Green'" ,     "'David Johnson'" , "'Stuart Levy'"     , "'Karen Medina'" ,     "Szoke, Ron" , "'Mildred O'brien'"     , "'Peace Discuss'" ,     "'peace at lists.chambana.net'" ,     "'davegreen84 at yahoo.com'" , "Readel, Karin"     , "Estabrook, Carl G" ,     "'Belden Fields'" , "'jmachota at shout.net'"     , "'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing     List'" , "'Bryan Savage'"     , "Hoffman, Valerie J"     , "Miller, Joseph Thomas"     , "sherwoodross10 at gmail.com"     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's     Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" As we all know, many NeoCons and Feddies support Mrs Clinton instead of Trump. So it makes perfect sense for the Feddies, the NeoCons, the  Dems, and the  Yale Law Mafia on the UI College of Law Faculty  to bring Yale Law Mafia  Killer Koh out here on October 28 to get Yale Law Mafia  Clinton elected President 10 days later. She's a Closet NeoCon anyway. And Killer Koh used to work for Reagan from 1983 to 1985. Killer Koh is a bi-partisan  and equal opportunity war criminal. Fab, Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:34 AM To: Amanda Bass ; 'Karen Aram' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Green' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette The University of Illinois College of Law Faculty are Chock Full of Feddies "Hijacking Justice" every day they teach our law students to become Lawyers who Hijack Justice every day they practice law. And now the Law  Faculty  are bringing in the War Criminal Harold  Killer Koh to serve as Their Role Model for our law students  to become Government Lawyers and become War Criminals themselves. Fab. -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:FBOYLE at law.uiuc.edu] Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 6:35 PM To: undisclosed-recipients Subject: HIJACKING JUSTICE:FEDDIES S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E                               The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society."                                                 -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:19 AM To: Amanda Bass >; 'Karen Aram' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Green' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: FW: C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:17 AM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' > Subject: C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette "In the end," { Feddie Boy(den) George} Gray testified, "every other constitutional power runs into the appropriations power...designed to prevent the president..." As if the Feddie Boy George Gray could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, the Rule of Law, Separation of Powers or the Hyperimperial Presidency just  like his Co-Panelist Nicky Rosenkrantz, the lackey for War Criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith could not. But hey,  don't take my word for it. Have a look at what the late, great Judge Lawrence Walsh had to say about Boy George Gray and the Feddies: >From Iran-contra Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh, Firewall: According to the conventional wisdom, we were in a double bind: The judges appointed by Democratic presidents were supposedly most concerned with protecting the constitutional rights of persons prosecuted for crimes, while most of the other judges owed their appointments to Ronald Reagan or George Bush, who had stated publicly and emphatically that they hoped that North would not be convicted.             Over the years, I had often found such simplistic views to be wrong.  Most judges overcome the prejudices and alliances they had when appointed to the federal bench.  During my three and one-half years on the federal district court in New York, I had experienced the merging process by which new judges are absorbed into their courts.  My hard-line political and professional views had moderated during lunchroom conversations with Learned Hand, Jerome Frank, and Harold Medina and had dissolved after a couple of my decisions had been reversed on appeal.             But I was concerned about the continuing political allegiance of Republican judges as manifested in the Federalist Society.  Although the organization was not openly partisan, its dogma was political.  It reminded me of the communist front groups of the 1940s and l950s, whose members were committed to the communist cause and subject to communist direction but were not card-carrying members of the Communist Party.  In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans.  I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush.                                                                        Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E.Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, Illinois 61820 Phone: 217-333-7954 Fax: 217-244-1478 fboyle at law.uiuc.edu 9 September 1997 Memorandum TO: Robert H. Bork Federalist Society Dear Bob:     Concerning your fund-raising letter of 28 August that just came to my attention, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for publicly associating me with a Lawyer and a Judge who has the principles, courage and integrity of Lawrence Walsh.     For your information, that message and others like out were sent out all over the internet, not just to 30 professors, together with the full text of Judge Walsh's attack on the Federalist Society. Out of respect for Judge Walsh, I certainly do hope that my professorial colleagues will pay the most serious attention to what he had to say about the Federalist Society. After all, Judge Walsh is a pillar of the American Legal Establishment and of the Republican Party. As for myself, I have always been a political independent and resent your implication that I am a member of the Democrat Party.     Be that as it may, it seems to me that you have only (once again!) made a fool of yourself by publicly attacking a Lawyer and a Judge with the courage, integrity and principles of Judge Walsh--characteristics that you yourself were not noted for as Solicitor General (when you fired Archie Cox, the first Special Prosecutor), during your tenure on the bench, or during your Supreme Court nomination hearings. Rather than publicly attacking Judge Walsh, I suggest that you personally as well as the Federalist Society institutionally should be giving the most serious consideration to what he had to say.     Yours very truly,     Francis A. Boyle     Professor of Law cc: Judge Lawrence Walsh Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:03 PM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' > Subject: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Champaign-Urbana Native Georgie Porgie Will and Nicky Rosenkrantz deserve each other: "...the appropriation power, Rosenkrantz testified, is Congress' "most potent check on executive overreach"-"the ultimate  backstop" against "a willful president." If Presidents could disburse money without an appropriation, "the careful constitutional separation of powers would  be thrown into disequilibrium."" ----------------------------------------------- As if Nicky could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, or the Rule of Law, or the  Separation of Powers, or the Hyperimperial Presidency. Nicky tried to get hired here. His resume clearly stated that he had worked for the war criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith at the Department of Injustice, Office of Legal Counsel. Nicky  used the war criminals Yoo and Goldsmith as his personal references to be hired. The Yale Law Mafia in operation again, including the Chair of our  Appointments Committee and later fired Dean.  I went ballistic with the Faculty: We are not going to hire a War Criminal on my watch and over my dead body! Those concerns did not bother the Faculty at Georgetown Law, where the guiding principle is as cited by Georgie Porgie Will: "What's the Constitution between friends?" Good riddance to Nicky Rosenkrantz and Georgetown Law! Fab. Georgetown Law December 1976 Right out of HLS Looking for a job So the path took me To Georgetown Law 2 days of interviews Seemed to go alright Then ushered in to meet Dean Butch Fisher Who bragged about being The youngest legal advisor In the history of the State Department 36 Not impressed But would play the game Mr Boyle The Faculty would like to hire you But we believe you need More seasoning Salt or pepper, I wondered We would like you to go work For DOS Legal Advisor for 4 or 5 years And then we will hire you Are you f-ing serious Sell my soul After State just spent The past 15 years Committing genocide in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos Exterminating upwards of 3 million human beings Murdering 58,000 of my generation Some of whom were friends Are you f-ing serious Dean Butch Who do you think you're dealing with I politely declined and came here Back then ranked the same as Georgetown Law So I came out alright But not to have the taint Of the State Department After my name Where things have never changed Murder, death, destruction, invasions Assassinations, drones, genocide Harold Koh fit right in like a glove Fab Francis A. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Sep 2 21:07:42 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 21:07:42 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <467978416.534112.1472848465316@mail.yahoo.com> References: <467978416.534112.1472848465316@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Stephen We, with AWARE, aren’t giving Professor Boyle the cold shoulder we support him, he’s a hero. We’re giving you the cold shoulder, surely you’ve noticed that by now. On Sep 2, 2016, at 13:34, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: By giving Professor Boyle the cold shoulder now that he has associated with 'trash' you have confirmed my long-held suspicion that you are Zionist sympathizers. That's fine, I will wear my 'trash' label with pride. On Friday, September 2, 2016 8:21 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" > wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette (Boyle, Francis A) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 13:20:33 +0000 From: "Boyle, Francis A" > To: Amanda Bass >, "'Karen Aram'" >, "'C. G. Estabrook'" >, "'C. G. Estabrook'" >, "'Peace Discuss'" >, "'David Green'" >, "'David Johnson'" >, "'Stuart Levy'" >, "'Karen Medina'" >, "Szoke, Ron" >, "'Mildred O'brien'" >, "'Peace Discuss'" >, "'peace at lists.chambana.net'" >, "'davegreen84 at yahoo.com'" >, "Readel, Karin" >, "Estabrook, Carl G" >, "'Belden Fields'" >, "'jmachota at shout.net'" >, "'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List'" >, "'Bryan Savage'" >, "Hoffman, Valerie J" >, "Miller, Joseph Thomas" >, "sherwoodross10 at gmail.com" > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" As we all know, many NeoCons and Feddies support Mrs Clinton instead of Trump. So it makes perfect sense for the Feddies, the NeoCons, the Dems, and the Yale Law Mafia on the UI College of Law Faculty to bring Yale Law Mafia Killer Koh out here on October 28 to get Yale Law Mafia Clinton elected President 10 days later. She's a Closet NeoCon anyway. And Killer Koh used to work for Reagan from 1983 to 1985. Killer Koh is a bi-partisan and equal opportunity war criminal. Fab, Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:34 AM To: Amanda Bass >; 'Karen Aram' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Green' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette The University of Illinois College of Law Faculty are Chock Full of Feddies "Hijacking Justice" every day they teach our law students to become Lawyers who Hijack Justice every day they practice law. And now the Law Faculty are bringing in the War Criminal Harold Killer Koh to serve as Their Role Model for our law students to become Government Lawyers and become War Criminals themselves. Fab. -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:FBOYLE at law.uiuc.edu] Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 6:35 PM To: undisclosed-recipients Subject: HIJACKING JUSTICE:FEDDIES S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:19 AM To: Amanda Bass >>; 'Karen Aram' >>; 'C. G. Estabrook' >>; 'C. G. Estabrook' >>; 'Peace Discuss' >>; 'David Green' >>; 'David Johnson' >>; 'Stuart Levy' >>; 'Karen Medina' >>; Szoke, Ron >>; 'Mildred O'brien' >>; 'Peace Discuss' >>; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >>; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >>; Readel, Karin >>; Estabrook, Carl G >>; 'Belden Fields' >>; 'jmachota at shout.net' >>; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >>; 'Bryan Savage' >>; Hoffman, Valerie J >>; Miller, Joseph Thomas >>; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com> Subject: FW: C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:17 AM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' >> Subject: C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette "In the end," { Feddie Boy(den) George} Gray testified, "every other constitutional power runs into the appropriations power...designed to prevent the president..." As if the Feddie Boy George Gray could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, the Rule of Law, Separation of Powers or the Hyperimperial Presidency just like his Co-Panelist Nicky Rosenkrantz, the lackey for War Criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith could not. But hey, don't take my word for it. Have a look at what the late, great Judge Lawrence Walsh had to say about Boy George Gray and the Feddies: >From Iran-contra Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh, Firewall: According to the conventional wisdom, we were in a double bind: The judges appointed by Democratic presidents were supposedly most concerned with protecting the constitutional rights of persons prosecuted for crimes, while most of the other judges owed their appointments to Ronald Reagan or George Bush, who had stated publicly and emphatically that they hoped that North would not be convicted. Over the years, I had often found such simplistic views to be wrong. Most judges overcome the prejudices and alliances they had when appointed to the federal bench. During my three and one-half years on the federal district court in New York, I had experienced the merging process by which new judges are absorbed into their courts. My hard-line political and professional views had moderated during lunchroom conversations with Learned Hand, Jerome Frank, and Harold Medina and had dissolved after a couple of my decisions had been reversed on appeal. But I was concerned about the continuing political allegiance of Republican judges as manifested in the Federalist Society. Although the organization was not openly partisan, its dogma was political. It reminded me of the communist front groups of the 1940s and l950s, whose members were committed to the communist cause and subject to communist direction but were not card-carrying members of the Communist Party. In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E.Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, Illinois 61820 Phone: 217-333-7954 Fax: 217-244-1478 fboyle at law.uiuc.edu> 9 September 1997 Memorandum TO: Robert H. Bork Federalist Society Dear Bob: Concerning your fund-raising letter of 28 August that just came to my attention, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for publicly associating me with a Lawyer and a Judge who has the principles, courage and integrity of Lawrence Walsh. For your information, that message and others like out were sent out all over the internet, not just to 30 professors, together with the full text of Judge Walsh's attack on the Federalist Society. Out of respect for Judge Walsh, I certainly do hope that my professorial colleagues will pay the most serious attention to what he had to say about the Federalist Society. After all, Judge Walsh is a pillar of the American Legal Establishment and of the Republican Party. As for myself, I have always been a political independent and resent your implication that I am a member of the Democrat Party. Be that as it may, it seems to me that you have only (once again!) made a fool of yourself by publicly attacking a Lawyer and a Judge with the courage, integrity and principles of Judge Walsh--characteristics that you yourself were not noted for as Solicitor General (when you fired Archie Cox, the first Special Prosecutor), during your tenure on the bench, or during your Supreme Court nomination hearings. Rather than publicly attacking Judge Walsh, I suggest that you personally as well as the Federalist Society institutionally should be giving the most serious consideration to what he had to say. Yours very truly, Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law cc: Judge Lawrence Walsh Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:03 PM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' >> Subject: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Champaign-Urbana Native Georgie Porgie Will and Nicky Rosenkrantz deserve each other: "...the appropriation power, Rosenkrantz testified, is Congress' "most potent check on executive overreach"-"the ultimate backstop" against "a willful president." If Presidents could disburse money without an appropriation, "the careful constitutional separation of powers would be thrown into disequilibrium."" ----------------------------------------------- As if Nicky could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, or the Rule of Law, or the Separation of Powers, or the Hyperimperial Presidency. Nicky tried to get hired here. His resume clearly stated that he had worked for the war criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith at the Department of Injustice, Office of Legal Counsel. Nicky used the war criminals Yoo and Goldsmith as his personal references to be hired. The Yale Law Mafia in operation again, including the Chair of our Appointments Committee and later fired Dean. I went ballistic with the Faculty: We are not going to hire a War Criminal on my watch and over my dead body! Those concerns did not bother the Faculty at Georgetown Law, where the guiding principle is as cited by Georgie Porgie Will: "What's the Constitution between friends?" Good riddance to Nicky Rosenkrantz and Georgetown Law! Fab. Georgetown Law December 1976 Right out of HLS Looking for a job So the path took me To Georgetown Law 2 days of interviews Seemed to go alright Then ushered in to meet Dean Butch Fisher Who bragged about being The youngest legal advisor In the history of the State Department 36 Not impressed But would play the game Mr Boyle The Faculty would like to hire you But we believe you need More seasoning Salt or pepper, I wondered We would like you to go work For DOS Legal Advisor for 4 or 5 years And then we will hire you Are you f-ing serious Sell my soul After State just spent The past 15 years Committing genocide in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos Exterminating upwards of 3 million human beings Murdering 58,000 of my generation Some of whom were friends Are you f-ing serious Dean Butch Who do you think you're dealing with I politely declined and came here Back then ranked the same as Georgetown Law So I came out alright But not to have the taint Of the State Department After my name Where things have never changed Murder, death, destruction, invasions Assassinations, drones, genocide Harold Koh fit right in like a glove Fab Francis A. 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URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 2 21:15:34 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 21:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <187992015.575759.1472850934051@mail.yahoo.com> I would love to be wrong on this, but I don't see the proof.I don't care what you think of me, but all I can see at this point is that you all showered him with due attention until you found out that he participated in our conference.Prove me wrong. Please On Friday, September 2, 2016 4:08 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 10 (Karen Aram) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 21:07:42 +0000 From: Karen Aram To: Stephen Francis Cc: "peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net"     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 10 Message-ID:         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Stephen We, with AWARE, aren’t giving Professor Boyle the cold shoulder we support him, he’s a hero. We’re giving you the cold shoulder, surely you’ve noticed that by now. On Sep 2, 2016, at 13:34, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: By giving Professor Boyle the cold shoulder now that he has associated with 'trash' you have confirmed my long-held suspicion that you are Zionist sympathizers. That's fine, I will wear my 'trash' label with pride. On Friday, September 2, 2016 8:21 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" > wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's Georgie Porgie Will       Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette (Boyle, Francis A) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 13:20:33 +0000 From: "Boyle, Francis A" > To: Amanda Bass >, "'Karen Aram'"     >, "'C. G. Estabrook'" >, "'C. G.     Estabrook'" >, "'Peace Discuss'"     >, "'David Green'" >,     "'David Johnson'" >, "'Stuart Levy'"     >, "'Karen Medina'" >,     "Szoke, Ron" >, "'Mildred O'brien'"     >, "'Peace Discuss'" >,     "'peace at lists.chambana.net'" >,     "'davegreen84 at yahoo.com'" >, "Readel, Karin"     >, "Estabrook, Carl G" >,     "'Belden Fields'" >, "'jmachota at shout.net'"     >, "'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing     List'" >, "'Bryan Savage'"     >, "Hoffman, Valerie J"     >, "Miller, Joseph Thomas"     >, "sherwoodross10 at gmail.com"     > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's     Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette Message-ID:     > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" As we all know, many NeoCons and Feddies support Mrs Clinton instead of Trump. So it makes perfect sense for the Feddies, the NeoCons, the  Dems, and the  Yale Law Mafia on the UI College of Law Faculty  to bring Yale Law Mafia  Killer Koh out here on October 28 to get Yale Law Mafia  Clinton elected President 10 days later. She's a Closet NeoCon anyway. And Killer Koh used to work for Reagan from 1983 to 1985. Killer Koh is a bi-partisan  and equal opportunity war criminal. Fab, Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:34 AM To: Amanda Bass >; 'Karen Aram' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Green' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette The University of Illinois College of Law Faculty are Chock Full of Feddies "Hijacking Justice" every day they teach our law students to become Lawyers who Hijack Justice every day they practice law. And now the Law  Faculty  are bringing in the War Criminal Harold  Killer Koh to serve as Their Role Model for our law students  to become Government Lawyers and become War Criminals themselves. Fab. -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:FBOYLE at law.uiuc.edu] Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 6:35 PM To: undisclosed-recipients Subject: HIJACKING JUSTICE:FEDDIES S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E                               The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society."                                                 -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:19 AM To: Amanda Bass >>; 'Karen Aram' >>; 'C. G. Estabrook' >>; 'C. G. Estabrook' >>; 'Peace Discuss' >>; 'David Green' >>; 'David Johnson' >>; 'Stuart Levy' >>; 'Karen Medina' >>; Szoke, Ron >>; 'Mildred O'brien' >>; 'Peace Discuss' >>; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >>; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >>; Readel, Karin >>; Estabrook, Carl G >>; 'Belden Fields' >>; 'jmachota at shout.net' >>; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >>; 'Bryan Savage' >>; Hoffman, Valerie J >>; Miller, Joseph Thomas >>; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com> Subject: FW: C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:17 AM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' >> Subject: C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette "In the end," { Feddie Boy(den) George} Gray testified, "every other constitutional power runs into the appropriations power...designed to prevent the president..." As if the Feddie Boy George Gray could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, the Rule of Law, Separation of Powers or the Hyperimperial Presidency just  like his Co-Panelist Nicky Rosenkrantz, the lackey for War Criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith could not. But hey,  don't take my word for it. Have a look at what the late, great Judge Lawrence Walsh had to say about Boy George Gray and the Feddies: >From Iran-contra Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh, Firewall: According to the conventional wisdom, we were in a double bind: The judges appointed by Democratic presidents were supposedly most concerned with protecting the constitutional rights of persons prosecuted for crimes, while most of the other judges owed their appointments to Ronald Reagan or George Bush, who had stated publicly and emphatically that they hoped that North would not be convicted.             Over the years, I had often found such simplistic views to be wrong.  Most judges overcome the prejudices and alliances they had when appointed to the federal bench.  During my three and one-half years on the federal district court in New York, I had experienced the merging process by which new judges are absorbed into their courts.  My hard-line political and professional views had moderated during lunchroom conversations with Learned Hand, Jerome Frank, and Harold Medina and had dissolved after a couple of my decisions had been reversed on appeal.             But I was concerned about the continuing political allegiance of Republican judges as manifested in the Federalist Society.  Although the organization was not openly partisan, its dogma was political.  It reminded me of the communist front groups of the 1940s and l950s, whose members were committed to the communist cause and subject to communist direction but were not card-carrying members of the Communist Party.  In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans.  I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush.                                                                        Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E.Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, Illinois 61820 Phone: 217-333-7954 Fax: 217-244-1478 fboyle at law.uiuc.edu> 9 September 1997 Memorandum TO: Robert H. Bork Federalist Society Dear Bob:     Concerning your fund-raising letter of 28 August that just came to my attention, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for publicly associating me with a Lawyer and a Judge who has the principles, courage and integrity of Lawrence Walsh.     For your information, that message and others like out were sent out all over the internet, not just to 30 professors, together with the full text of Judge Walsh's attack on the Federalist Society. Out of respect for Judge Walsh, I certainly do hope that my professorial colleagues will pay the most serious attention to what he had to say about the Federalist Society. After all, Judge Walsh is a pillar of the American Legal Establishment and of the Republican Party. As for myself, I have always been a political independent and resent your implication that I am a member of the Democrat Party.     Be that as it may, it seems to me that you have only (once again!) made a fool of yourself by publicly attacking a Lawyer and a Judge with the courage, integrity and principles of Judge Walsh--characteristics that you yourself were not noted for as Solicitor General (when you fired Archie Cox, the first Special Prosecutor), during your tenure on the bench, or during your Supreme Court nomination hearings. Rather than publicly attacking Judge Walsh, I suggest that you personally as well as the Federalist Society institutionally should be giving the most serious consideration to what he had to say.     Yours very truly,     Francis A. Boyle     Professor of Law cc: Judge Lawrence Walsh Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:03 PM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' >> Subject: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Champaign-Urbana Native Georgie Porgie Will and Nicky Rosenkrantz deserve each other: "...the appropriation power, Rosenkrantz testified, is Congress' "most potent check on executive overreach"-"the ultimate  backstop" against "a willful president." If Presidents could disburse money without an appropriation, "the careful constitutional separation of powers would  be thrown into disequilibrium."" ----------------------------------------------- As if Nicky could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, or the Rule of Law, or the  Separation of Powers, or the Hyperimperial Presidency. Nicky tried to get hired here. His resume clearly stated that he had worked for the war criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith at the Department of Injustice, Office of Legal Counsel. Nicky  used the war criminals Yoo and Goldsmith as his personal references to be hired. The Yale Law Mafia in operation again, including the Chair of our  Appointments Committee and later fired Dean.  I went ballistic with the Faculty: We are not going to hire a War Criminal on my watch and over my dead body! Those concerns did not bother the Faculty at Georgetown Law, where the guiding principle is as cited by Georgie Porgie Will: "What's the Constitution between friends?" Good riddance to Nicky Rosenkrantz and Georgetown Law! Fab. Georgetown Law December 1976 Right out of HLS Looking for a job So the path took me To Georgetown Law 2 days of interviews Seemed to go alright Then ushered in to meet Dean Butch Fisher Who bragged about being The youngest legal advisor In the history of the State Department 36 Not impressed But would play the game Mr Boyle The Faculty would like to hire you But we believe you need More seasoning Salt or pepper, I wondered We would like you to go work For DOS Legal Advisor for 4 or 5 years And then we will hire you Are you f-ing serious Sell my soul After State just spent The past 15 years Committing genocide in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos Exterminating upwards of 3 million human beings Murdering 58,000 of my generation Some of whom were friends Are you f-ing serious Dean Butch Who do you think you're dealing with I politely declined and came here Back then ranked the same as Georgetown Law So I came out alright But not to have the taint Of the State Department After my name Where things have never changed Murder, death, destruction, invasions Assassinations, drones, genocide Harold Koh fit right in like a glove Fab Francis A. 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Anti-Semitism (whatever that is) is growing leaps and bounds because of the internet. It will be a replay of South Africa.  Just will take time.... like Chief Illini...was doomed... human nature prevailed. On Friday, September 2, 2016 4:16 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 12 (Stephen Francis) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 21:15:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Stephen Francis To: "peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net"     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 12 Message-ID: <187992015.575759.1472850934051 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I would love to be wrong on this, but I don't see the proof.I don't care what you think of me, but all I can see at this point is that you all showered him with due attention until you found out that he participated in our conference.Prove me wrong. Please     On Friday, September 2, 2016 4:08 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 10 (Karen Aram) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 21:07:42 +0000 From: Karen Aram To: Stephen Francis Cc: "peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net"     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 10 Message-ID:         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Stephen We, with AWARE, aren’t giving Professor Boyle the cold shoulder we support him, he’s a hero. We’re giving you the cold shoulder, surely you’ve noticed that by now. On Sep 2, 2016, at 13:34, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: By giving Professor Boyle the cold shoulder now that he has associated with 'trash' you have confirmed my long-held suspicion that you are Zionist sympathizers. That's fine, I will wear my 'trash' label with pride. On Friday, September 2, 2016 8:21 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" > wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's Georgie Porgie Will       Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette (Boyle, Francis A) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 13:20:33 +0000 From: "Boyle, Francis A" > To: Amanda Bass >, "'Karen Aram'"     >, "'C. G. Estabrook'" >, "'C. G.     Estabrook'" >, "'Peace Discuss'"     >, "'David Green'" >,     "'David Johnson'" >, "'Stuart Levy'"     >, "'Karen Medina'" >,     "Szoke, Ron" >, "'Mildred O'brien'"     >, "'Peace Discuss'" >,     "'peace at lists.chambana.net'" >,     "'davegreen84 at yahoo.com'" >, "Readel, Karin"     >, "Estabrook, Carl G" >,     "'Belden Fields'" >, "'jmachota at shout.net'"     >, "'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing     List'" >, "'Bryan Savage'"     >, "Hoffman, Valerie J"     >, "Miller, Joseph Thomas"     >, "sherwoodross10 at gmail.com"     > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's     Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette Message-ID:     > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" As we all know, many NeoCons and Feddies support Mrs Clinton instead of Trump. So it makes perfect sense for the Feddies, the NeoCons, the  Dems, and the  Yale Law Mafia on the UI College of Law Faculty  to bring Yale Law Mafia  Killer Koh out here on October 28 to get Yale Law Mafia  Clinton elected President 10 days later. She's a Closet NeoCon anyway. And Killer Koh used to work for Reagan from 1983 to 1985. Killer Koh is a bi-partisan  and equal opportunity war criminal. Fab, Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:34 AM To: Amanda Bass >; 'Karen Aram' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Green' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Illinois Law Faculty Feddies:C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette The University of Illinois College of Law Faculty are Chock Full of Feddies "Hijacking Justice" every day they teach our law students to become Lawyers who Hijack Justice every day they practice law. And now the Law  Faculty  are bringing in the War Criminal Harold  Killer Koh to serve as Their Role Model for our law students  to become Government Lawyers and become War Criminals themselves. Fab. -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:FBOYLE at law.uiuc.edu] Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 6:35 PM To: undisclosed-recipients Subject: HIJACKING JUSTICE:FEDDIES S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E                               The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society."                                                 -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:19 AM To: Amanda Bass >>; 'Karen Aram' >>; 'C. G. Estabrook' >>; 'C. G. Estabrook' >>; 'Peace Discuss' >>; 'David Green' >>; 'David Johnson' >>; 'Stuart Levy' >>; 'Karen Medina' >>; Szoke, Ron >>; 'Mildred O'brien' >>; 'Peace Discuss' >>; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >>; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >>; Readel, Karin >>; Estabrook, Carl G >>; 'Belden Fields' >>; 'jmachota at shout.net' >>; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >>; 'Bryan Savage' >>; Hoffman, Valerie J >>; Miller, Joseph Thomas >>; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com> Subject: FW: C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:17 AM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' >> Subject: C-U's Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Feddie Boy George Gray/C-U News Gazette "In the end," { Feddie Boy(den) George} Gray testified, "every other constitutional power runs into the appropriations power...designed to prevent the president..." As if the Feddie Boy George Gray could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, the Rule of Law, Separation of Powers or the Hyperimperial Presidency just  like his Co-Panelist Nicky Rosenkrantz, the lackey for War Criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith could not. But hey,  don't take my word for it. Have a look at what the late, great Judge Lawrence Walsh had to say about Boy George Gray and the Feddies: >From Iran-contra Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh, Firewall: According to the conventional wisdom, we were in a double bind: The judges appointed by Democratic presidents were supposedly most concerned with protecting the constitutional rights of persons prosecuted for crimes, while most of the other judges owed their appointments to Ronald Reagan or George Bush, who had stated publicly and emphatically that they hoped that North would not be convicted.             Over the years, I had often found such simplistic views to be wrong.  Most judges overcome the prejudices and alliances they had when appointed to the federal bench.  During my three and one-half years on the federal district court in New York, I had experienced the merging process by which new judges are absorbed into their courts.  My hard-line political and professional views had moderated during lunchroom conversations with Learned Hand, Jerome Frank, and Harold Medina and had dissolved after a couple of my decisions had been reversed on appeal.             But I was concerned about the continuing political allegiance of Republican judges as manifested in the Federalist Society.  Although the organization was not openly partisan, its dogma was political.  It reminded me of the communist front groups of the 1940s and l950s, whose members were committed to the communist cause and subject to communist direction but were not card-carrying members of the Communist Party.  In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans.  I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush.                                                                        Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E.Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, Illinois 61820 Phone: 217-333-7954 Fax: 217-244-1478 fboyle at law.uiuc.edu> 9 September 1997 Memorandum TO: Robert H. Bork Federalist Society Dear Bob:     Concerning your fund-raising letter of 28 August that just came to my attention, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for publicly associating me with a Lawyer and a Judge who has the principles, courage and integrity of Lawrence Walsh.     For your information, that message and others like out were sent out all over the internet, not just to 30 professors, together with the full text of Judge Walsh's attack on the Federalist Society. Out of respect for Judge Walsh, I certainly do hope that my professorial colleagues will pay the most serious attention to what he had to say about the Federalist Society. After all, Judge Walsh is a pillar of the American Legal Establishment and of the Republican Party. As for myself, I have always been a political independent and resent your implication that I am a member of the Democrat Party.     Be that as it may, it seems to me that you have only (once again!) made a fool of yourself by publicly attacking a Lawyer and a Judge with the courage, integrity and principles of Judge Walsh--characteristics that you yourself were not noted for as Solicitor General (when you fired Archie Cox, the first Special Prosecutor), during your tenure on the bench, or during your Supreme Court nomination hearings. Rather than publicly attacking Judge Walsh, I suggest that you personally as well as the Federalist Society institutionally should be giving the most serious consideration to what he had to say.     Yours very truly,     Francis A. Boyle     Professor of Law cc: Judge Lawrence Walsh Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:03 PM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' >> Subject: Georgie Porgie Will Endorses Nicky Rosenkrantz/C-U News Gazette Champaign-Urbana Native Georgie Porgie Will and Nicky Rosenkrantz deserve each other: "...the appropriation power, Rosenkrantz testified, is Congress' "most potent check on executive overreach"-"the ultimate  backstop" against "a willful president." If Presidents could disburse money without an appropriation, "the careful constitutional separation of powers would  be thrown into disequilibrium."" ----------------------------------------------- As if Nicky could give diddly-squat about the Constitution, or the Rule of Law, or the  Separation of Powers, or the Hyperimperial Presidency. Nicky tried to get hired here. His resume clearly stated that he had worked for the war criminals John Yoo and Jack Goldsmith at the Department of Injustice, Office of Legal Counsel. Nicky  used the war criminals Yoo and Goldsmith as his personal references to be hired. The Yale Law Mafia in operation again, including the Chair of our  Appointments Committee and later fired Dean.  I went ballistic with the Faculty: We are not going to hire a War Criminal on my watch and over my dead body! Those concerns did not bother the Faculty at Georgetown Law, where the guiding principle is as cited by Georgie Porgie Will: "What's the Constitution between friends?" Good riddance to Nicky Rosenkrantz and Georgetown Law! Fab. Georgetown Law December 1976 Right out of HLS Looking for a job So the path took me To Georgetown Law 2 days of interviews Seemed to go alright Then ushered in to meet Dean Butch Fisher Who bragged about being The youngest legal advisor In the history of the State Department 36 Not impressed But would play the game Mr Boyle The Faculty would like to hire you But we believe you need More seasoning Salt or pepper, I wondered We would like you to go work For DOS Legal Advisor for 4 or 5 years And then we will hire you Are you f-ing serious Sell my soul After State just spent The past 15 years Committing genocide in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos Exterminating upwards of 3 million human beings Murdering 58,000 of my generation Some of whom were friends Are you f-ing serious Dean Butch Who do you think you're dealing with I politely declined and came here Back then ranked the same as Georgetown Law So I came out alright But not to have the taint Of the State Department After my name Where things have never changed Murder, death, destruction, invasions Assassinations, drones, genocide Harold Koh fit right in like a glove Fab Francis A. 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Estabrook) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 18:50:46 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 13 In-Reply-To: <823655359.597885.1472853004063@mail.yahoo.com> References: <823655359.597885.1472853004063@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <33DEDA6C-3F6F-4F87-BB3A-2165E7294FED@illinois.edu> > On Sep 2, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: > > To be antiwar is to be anti-Zionist. They are absolutely inseparable. AWARE never touches the subject. You are totally intimidated by the local Jewish power structure. It's obvious and in plain sight. Times are changing. The BDS movement is growing. Anti-Semitism (whatever that is) is growing leaps and bounds because of the internet. It will be a replay of South Africa. Just will take time.... like Chief Illini...was doomed... human nature prevailed. War is the issue in the presidential election. The Higher Antisemitism, beloved by liberals and conservatives alike - "the Jews/Israelis direct US policy in the Mideast" - isn't true; US government policy, in the Mideast as elsewhere, is directed by the interests of US economic elite (the '1%'), which are opposed to the interests of the vast majority of the US population. The US government kills people (more than 20 million people in 37 countries since WWII) to secure the interests of that elite. US government policy in the Mideast since WWII is based on the US demand to control the vast energy resources of the region. Control - and not just access - is what the US demands. Zbigniew Brzezinski: US control over the Middle East “gives it indirect but politically critical leverage on the European and Asian economies that are also dependent on energy exports from the region.” (Since 1967 Israel has functioned as a "stationary aircraft carrier" for US control of the Mideast, so the US has acquiesced in the Israeli government's apartheid policies.) The long-term goal of US foreign policy, stretching back more than a century, is to prevent the economic integration of Eurasia as a rival to the economic hegemony of the US elite. 'Manifest Destiny' hardly stopped at the water's edge but spread across the Pacific, already by the end of the 19th century. (See ; : "Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security.") That long-term geopolitical goal is at heart of the neoliberal and neoconservative movements within the US political class today. Hillary Clinton is their presidential candidate. The remarkable thing - so dangerous to the Clinton candidacy that they can't mention it, and so must concentrate on Trump's connection to racist right-wingers (and Putin!) - is that Donald Trump is not a neoliberal (more austerity) or a neoconservative (more war). With Clinton as president, we're certain to get more war, in the tradition of the last 25 years. With Trump as president, we might not. How can that be a difficult choice? “Yes, Trump’s personally obnoxious. I’d have a very hard time being his friend. Who cares?” [William Blum, author of “Killing Hope: U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions Since World War II"] “The CIA has demanded Trump is not elected. Pentagon generals have demanded he is not elected. The pro-war New York Times - taking a breather from its relentless low-rent Putin smears - demands that he is not elected. Something is up. These tribunes of "perpetual war" are terrified that the multi-billion-dollar business of war by which the United States maintains its dominance will be undermined if Trump does a deal with Putin, then with China's Xi Jinping. Their panic at the possibility of the world's great power talking peace - however unlikely - would be the blackest farce were the issues not so dire.” —CGE From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Sep 3 12:41:16 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 12:41:16 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Killer Koh & Clinton's Emails Redux: Yale Law Mafia: 18 USC 371 v. Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" Message-ID: On my WEFT interview last week I had mentioned I gave an extensive interview to Dennis Bernstein for Pacifica (including WEFT) on Clinton's email private server system pointing out that she had Committed the crime of Conspiracy to Defraud the United States Government in violation of 18 USC 371, which is a Felony. I was originally hired here to teach Criminal Law and did so for about 7-8 years.You can find the text and analysis of the Statute below taken from the US Attorneys' Manual itself. You can also find my response to a Yale Law Mafia Lawyer for Bush Jr defending Yale Law Mafia Clinton's "ethics". Yale Law Mafia Killer Koh admitted that he advised Clinton on her email systems. In other words, Killer Koh was part of Clinton's Conspiracy to Defraud the United States government in violation of 18 USC 371, which is a Felony. So of course the Yale Law Mafia, the Feddies, the Neo-Cons and the Clintonoids on the Faculty of the University of Illinois College of Law believe Killer Koh is the perfect role model for a Lawyer in Government Service to give an Endowed Lecture on that subject on October 28 while campaigning for Mrs Clinton to get elected President ten days later. PATHETIC! FAB. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:support at lists.aals.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:16 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: [SECTNS.aals] - Yale Law Mafia: 18 USC 371 v. Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" Obviously Feddie Painter studied "Criminal Law" and "Legal Ethics" at Yale Law School. And then he did Damage Control and Damage Limitation for Bush Jr at the White House. Now Feddie Painter is doing Damage Control and Damage Limitation for Hillary and Bill Clinton who also "studied" at Yale Law School. The Clintons' Yale Law Mafia in operation-along with Harold Killer Koh. Looks to me like Feddie Painter is gunning for a High Level Position in the President Mrs Clinton Yale Law Mafia Administration along with Killer Koh. Fab. To the tables down at Mory's, To the place where Louis dwells, To the dear old Temple Bar We love so well, Sing the Whiffenpoofs assembled With their glasses raised on high, And the magic of their singing casts its spell. Yes, the magic of their singing Of the songs we love so well: "Shall I Wasting" and "Mavourneen" and the rest. We will serenade our Louis While life and voice shall last Then we'll pass and be forgotten with the rest. We are poor little lambs Who have lost our way. Baa! Baa! Baa! We are little black sheep Who have gone astray. Baa! Baa! Baa! Gentlemen songsters off on a spree Damned from here to eternity God have mercy on such as we. Baa! Baa! Baa! Fab Fab Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:42 AM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' > Subject: 18 USC 371 v. Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" Skip to main content [Office of the United States Attorneys][The United States Department of Justice] [U.S. Attorneys] Top of Form Bottom of Form U.S. Attorneys Manual * Top of Form Bottom of Form * Home * Index * Search * U.S. Attorneys U.S. Attorneys' Manual You are here U.S. Attorneys » Resources » U.S. Attorneys' Manual » Criminal Resource Manual » CRM 500-999 » Criminal Resource Manual 901-999 923. 18 U.S.C. § 371-Conspiracy to Defraud the United States The general conspiracy statute, 18 U.S.C. § 371, creates an offense "[i]f two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose. (emphasis added). See Project, Tenth Annual Survey of White Collar Crime, 32 Am. Crim. L. Rev. 137, 379-406 (1995)(generally discussing § 371). The operative language is the so-called "defraud clause," that prohibits conspiracies to defraud the United States. This clause creates a separate offense from the "offense clause" in Section 371. Both offenses require the traditional elements of Section 371 conspiracy, including an illegal agreement, criminal intent, and proof of an overt act. Although this language is very broad, cases rely heavily on the definition of "defraud" provided by the Supreme Court in two early cases, Hass v. Henkel, 216 U.S. 462 (1910), and Hammerschmidt v. United States, 265 U.S. 182 (1924). In Hass the Court stated: The statute is broad enough in its terms to include any conspiracy for the purpose of impairing, obstructing or defeating the lawful function of any department of government . . . (A)ny conspiracy which is calculated to obstruct or impair its efficiency and destroy the value of its operation and reports as fair, impartial and reasonably accurate, would be to defraud the United States by depriving it of its lawful right and duty of promulgating or diffusing the information so officially acquired in the way and at the time required by law or departmental regulation. Hass, 216 U.S. at 479-480. In Hammerschmidt, Chief Justice Taft, defined "defraud" as follows: To conspire to defraud the United States means primarily to cheat the Government out of property or money, but it also means to interfere with or obstruct one of its lawful governmental functions by deceit, craft or trickery, or at least by means that are dishonest. It is not necessary that the Government shall be subjected to property or pecuniary loss by the fraud, but only that its legitimate official action and purpose shall be defeated by misrepresentation, chicane or the overreaching of those charged with carrying out the governmental intention. Hammerschmidt, 265 U.S. at 188. The general purpose of this part of the statute is to protect governmental functions from frustration and distortion through deceptive practices. Section 371 reaches "any conspiracy for the purpose of impairing, obstructing or defeating the lawful function of any department of Government." Tanner v. United States, 483 U.S. 107, 128 (1987); see Dennis v. United States, 384 U.S. 855 (1966). The "defraud part of section 371 criminalizes any willful impairment of a legitimate function of government, whether or not the improper acts or objective are criminal under another statute." United States v. Tuohey, 867 F.2d 534, 537 (9th Cir. 1989). The word "defraud" in Section 371 not only reaches financial or property loss through use of a scheme or artifice to defraud but also is designed and intended to protect the integrity of the United States and its agencies, programs and policies. United States v. Burgin, 621 F.2d 1352, 1356 (5th Cir.), cert. denied, 449 U.S. 1015 (1980); see United States v. Herron, 825 F.2d 50, 57-58 (5th Cir.); United States v. Winkle, 587 F.2d 705, 708 (5th Cir. 1979), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 827 (1979). Thus, proof that the United States has been defrauded under this statute does not require any showing of monetary or proprietary loss. United States v. Conover, 772 F.2d 765 (11th Cir. 1985), aff'd, sub. nom. Tanner v. United States, 483 U.S. 107 (1987); United States v. Del Toro, 513 F.2d 656 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, 423 U.S. 826 (1975); United States v. Jacobs, 475 F.2d 270 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, 414 U.S. 821 (1973). Thus, if the defendant and others have engaged in dishonest practices in connection with a program administered by an agency of the Government, it constitutes a fraud on the United States under Section 371. United States v. Gallup, 812 F.2d 1271, 1276 (10th Cir. 1987); Conover, 772 F.2d at 771. In United States v. Hopkins, 916 F.2d 207 (5th Cir. 1990), the defendants' actions in disguising contributions were designed to evade the Federal Election Commission's reporting requirements and constituted fraud on the agency under Section 371. The intent required for a conspiracy to defraud the government is that the defendant possessed the intent (a) to defraud, (b) to make false statements or representations to the government or its agencies in order to obtain property of the government, or that the defendant performed acts or made statements that he/she knew to be false, fraudulent or deceitful to a government agency, which disrupted the functions of the agency or of the government. It is sufficient for the government to prove that the defendant knew the statements were false or fraudulent when made. The government is not required to prove the statements ultimately resulted in any actual loss to the government of any property or funds, only that the defendant's activities impeded or interfered with legitimate governmental functions. See United States v. Puerto, 730 F.2d 627 (11th Cir.), cert. denied, 469 U.S. 847 (1984); United States v. Tuohey, 867 F.2d 534 (9th Cir. 1989); United States v. Sprecher, 783 F. Supp. 133, 156 (S.D.N.Y. 1992)(þit is sufficient that the defendant engaged in acts that interfered with or obstructed a lawful governmental function by deceit, craft, trickery or by means that were dishonest"), modified on other grounds, 988 F.2d 318 (2d Cir. 1993). In United States v. Madeoy, 912 F.2d 1486 (D.C. Cir. 1990), cert. denied, 498 U.S. 1105 (1991), the defendants were convicted of conspiracy to defraud the government and other offenses in connection with a scheme to fraudulently obtain loan commitments from the Federal Housing Administration (FHA) or Veterans Administration (VA). The court held that the district court had properly instructed the jury that: the Government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of a scheme or artifice to defraud, with the objective either of defrauding the FHA or the VA of their lawful right to conduct their business and affairs free from deceit, fraud or misrepresentation, or of obtaining money and property from the FHA by means of false and fraudulent representations and promises which the defendant knew to be false. Madeoy, 912 F.2d at 1492. Prosecutors considering charges under the defraud prong of Section 371, and the offense prong of Section 371 should be aware of United States v. Minarik, 875 F.2d 1186 (6th Cir. 1989) holding limited, 985 F.2d 962 (1993), and related cases. See United States v. Arch Trading Company, 987 F.2d 1087 (4th Cir. 1993). In Minarik, the prosecution was found to have "used the defraud clause in a way that created great confusion about the conduct claimed to be illegal," and the conviction was reversed. 875 F.2d at 1196. After Minarik, defendants have frequently challenged indictments charging violations of both clauses, although many United States Courts of Appeals have found it permissible to invoke both clauses of Section 371. Arch Trading Company, 987 F.2d at 1092 (collecting cases); see also United States v. Licciardi, 30 F.3d 1127, 1132-33 (9th Cir. 1994)(even though the defendant may have impaired a government agency's functions, as part of a scheme to defraud another party, the government offered no evidence that the defendant intended to defraud the United States and a conspiracy to violate an agency regulatory scheme could not lie on such facts). In summary, those activities which courts have held defraud the United States under 18 U.S.C. § 371 affect the government in at least one of three ways: [cited in USAM 9-42.001] 1. They cheat the government out of money or property; 2. They interfere or obstruct legitimate Government activity; or 3. They make wrongful use of a governmental instrumentality. < 922. Elements of 18 U.S.C. § 287up924. Defrauding the Government of Money or Property > Updated December 18, 2015 U.S. Attorneys Manual * Home * Index * Search * U.S. Attorneys U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE * Left o Site Map § Accessibility § FOIA § Privacy Policy § Legal Policies & Disclaimers * Right § Justice.gov § USA.gov Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:26 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: NYT: Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" "When I was the chief White House ethics {sic!} lawyer {sic!} for President George W. Bush..." LOLOLOL! Are we supposed to take this seriously? Bush Jr and "legal ethics? An oxymoron to be sure. As was and still is Bush Jr.'s "ethics lawyer." Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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And of course, I accuse Zionists of being responsible for the controlled (nuclear) demolition of the WTC, thus rationalizing two illegal wars, displacement of millions and the creation of ISIS and not to forget Killer Koh, the legal eagle on drone use..... (pun intended). Trust me, I will eventually connect this.And Donald Trump has come dangerously close to being considered a 9/11 Truther (Obama birth certificate) guy, but that's not where I want to go, but it is an important side point.   It's his (Trump) references to political correctness that applies here and its connection to Cultural Marxism, along with a little multiculturalism and even Fabianism. The Obama/Clinton administration's accusations about Trump's racism are key. All major Jewish organizations support him/her on this. My reference here is Prof. Kevin McDonald, UC Davis, one of the 'trashy' speakers at the recent Academic Freedom Conference II. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMNXe2PiYfY  NYC has the largest Jewish population outside of Israel, is the home of Ellis Island, is more diverse than any other city in America, is controlled by Jews, who millions around the world believe were complicit in the controlled demolition of the WTC as a 'Pearl Harbor' type event to start two illegal wars. All mayors of New York have been Jewish at least since Koch... and this is just the tip of an iceberg... oh could I launch on this one. (Bloomberg, Giuliani, LaGuardia, Koch, Beame?, and is one of the many homes of Donald Trump... (who seems to have backed off of his declaration of supporting a neutral stance between Israel and the Palestinians).  His border wall gets much attention. Trump's support by the Israeli government is pretty shaky, but not when it comes to immigration, there's no wavering (unless you are Palestinian or Yemeni Jew where you are excluded from belonging to the 'Jewish State'). Their hypocrisy on this is astounding. Soros/Clinton/Merkel/Cameron...all support immigration/diversity/ and accuse nonsupporters of being racist including Trump. I'm not a Trump fan but admire his accomplishments in shaking up the 'establishment'. We were fooled by Obama/banksters/warmongers... Trump seems like the real thing? Trump is repeatedly (and politically correctly) accused of being a racist, which he responds by decrying against political correctness.  Well, where does this political correctness thing come from? And this is where I'm going to go on a huge tangent. Again please stick with. It will all make sense. I'm not rambling... and it relates to the US media/Wikipedia (Jewish propaganda machine) hiding Jewish involvement in world events which is totally parallel to my accusation that the local Jewish academic community has a grip on AWARE's conversation. So, let's go to the American Revolution which is a glaring example of this obfuscation...I'll try to make this very brief. It is not widely known that the Rothschilds (Jewish/Zionists who basically financed the creation of Israel (1930s Jewish emigration from Germany, early settlements, financed Israeli Supreme Court building, Rothschild Blvd in TelAviv, Israeli national flag Zionist symbol... etc) also financed both sides of the American Revolution. It was their first major step towards amassing their fabulous riches. To make this brief: The Rothschild helped fund the Hessian soldiers fighting for King George and also (Rothschilds) financed Haym Salomon (Jew) who was the main financial backer of the American Revolutionaries (Wikipedia), all with the help of (Jew) Adam Weishaupt (Illuminati, Jewish Freemasons), Rothschilds, ...on and on... If you search Wikipedia on any one of these entries you will never find the Rothschild connection but if you suspect it, it is hiding in plain sight but only if you want to see the connections. see attached graphic. Once you suspect Wikipedia of obfuscation of Israel's involvement in world events you find it is ubiquitous and disturbing. But of course, you  (Peace-Discuss list) will not see this or admit to it publicly because the local Jewish academic power structure will not permit it. It is a taboo subject and an academic career will never start or be destroyed if any of this is mentioned. Walt and Mearsheimer found out how this works... Professor Boyle has been dealing with it for decades as he mentioned in his talk on the University of Chicago and the Straussian neocons. See also Truman, IG Farben labor camps, Rockefellers, Bushes, Harrimans, Dulles brothers, Benjamin Freedman and the Treaty of Versailles... etc. See Professor Kevin McDonald's thesis Understanding Jewish Influence III: Neoconservatism as a Jewish Movementhttp://www.kevinmacdonald.net/understandji-3.htm ... although I strongly suspect you will not read it and just call it 'trash'    So back to Donald Trump and political correctness, multiculturalism and Cultural Marxism...and we might as well throw in a little Fabianism (Tony Blair, Bush/Iraq War boys), the British Labour Party, Thule Society and last but not least Marxism.... oh.. I forgot about the Jewish Bolshevik Revolution....sorry.  This all relates to AWARE antiwar...etc. If you research Cultural Marxism one of the first things you notice is that it is always accompanied by references to political correctness and multiculturism.  Why is this?  If you went to Wikipedia a few years back you would have seen a rather innocuous academic discussion (see below attachment) not worthy of any particular attention and especially no mention its Jewish Marxist origins or of it being an anti-Semitic conspiracy, of which it does now on the modern entry... which is now subsumed in the Wikipedia page titled The Frankfurt School.  see graphics 2 and 3 ...original and modern Wikipedia pages on Cultural Marxism and The Frankfurt School (Cultural Marxism conspiracy theories.) Cultural Marxism (Frankfurt School) now enjoys the title along with 9/11 Truth, JFK assassination, Israel's nuclear weapons, denial of Nakba, USS Liberty, Bolshevik Revolution...etc of being a 'conspiracy theory'... because the origins of the Frankfurt School is the Institute of Social Research which itself was originally named the Institute for the Study of Marxism...totally dominated by Jewish thought.  Hitler and the German people were terrified of Jewish Communists a fact never brought to attention in US media or textbooks.... The Cold War was reframed to specifically omit this. Political Correctness, as you will see in the research, is thoroughly entwined with Cultural Marxism because of the Frankfurt School theorists inclusion as a tool to incrementally break down Western capitalistic societies that did not succumb to the political Communist Revolution.  The Reds (Jewish Communists) failed and needed a cultural Plan B to continue their efforts (Cultural Marxism). PC is a tool of CM to smash individual thought, empower collectivism, engage thought police, quash academic freedom.  And what about Fabianism? A little research into this also finds Jewish/Communist roots in Nazi Germany and eventually into the British Labour Party and Tony Blair... his close relationship with Bill Clinton, The Third Way, DLC, Ruper Murdoch. and most importantly to the gradual tearing down through cultural means of the middle class in order to soften it for Jewish control (Marxism).  They already have control of Congress through AIPAC, ADL etc.. all chairs of the Fed have been Jewish since 1980, they control the media, Hollywood, Las Vegas.  The Protocols are alive still because the shoe fits. Of course, this is all considered a 'conspiracy theory' now (according to Wikipedia) but interestingly enough, the supposed real theory is so consumed in esoteric academic speak that most have no idea what the alternative 'real' theory is. And the internet has enabled a wildfire of attention mostly to the 'conspiracy' of Cultural Marxism. You can find the original theory in the graphic below. So, I conclude that once a person sees the grand efforts of the Zionist/Jewish community to obfuscate the role of Jewish power you can never go back. You can't unlearn this. It is spreading like a wildfire across the internet.  South Africa, here we come. BDS...yes Oh, I forgot Killer Koh.  He's just an important cog in the Jewish/Bankster/Obama/Clinton/drone wars/ perpetual war effort of which we are all in agreement. The real test will be to see if you support Professor Boyle's effort to demonstrate against Killer Koh's appearance or respond to his posts on this Peace/Discussion List.... I rather doubt it...and would be surprised if you did but hope that you will.  I will basque in my 'trash' label for a while longer. Stephen Francis xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >From CGE  To be antiwar is to be anti-Zionist. They are absolutely inseparable. AWARE never touches the subject. You are totally intimidated by the local Jewish power structure. It's obvious and in plain sight. Times are changing. The BDS movement is growing. Anti-Semitism (whatever that is) is growing leaps and bounds because of the internet. It will be a replay of South Africa.  Just will take time.... like Chief Illini...was doomed... human nature prevailed. War is the issue in the presidential election. The Higher Antisemitism, beloved by liberals and conservatives alike - "the Jews/Israelis direct US policy in the Mideast" - isn't true; US government policy, in the Mideast as elsewhere, is directed by the interests of US economic elite (the '1%'), which are opposed to the interests of the vast majority of the US population. The US government kills people (more than 20 million people in 37 countries since WWII) to secure the interests of that elite.  US government policy in the Mideast since WWII is based on the US demand to control the vast energy resources of the region. Control - and not just access - is what the US demands. Zbigniew Brzezinski: US control over the Middle East “gives it indirect but politically critical leverage on the European and Asian economies that are also dependent on energy exports from the region.” (Since 1967 Israel has functioned as a "stationary aircraft carrier" for US control of the Mideast, so the US has acquiesced in the Israeli government's apartheid policies.) The long-term goal of US foreign policy, stretching back more than a century, is to prevent the economic integration of Eurasia as a rival to the economic hegemony of the US elite. 'Manifest Destiny' hardly stopped at the water's edge but spread across the Pacific, already by the end of the 19th century.  (See ; : "Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security.") That long-term geopolitical goal is at heart of the neoliberal and neoconservative movements within the US political class today. Hillary Clinton is their presidential candidate. The remarkable thing - so dangerous to the Clinton candidacy that they can't mention it, and so must concentrate on Trump's connection to racist right-wingers (and Putin!) - is that Donald Trump is not a neoliberal (more austerity) or a neoconservative (more war). With Clinton as president, we're certain to get more war, in the tradition of the last 25 years. With Trump as president, we might not. How can that be a difficult choice? “Yes, Trump’s personally obnoxious. I’d have a very hard time being his friend. Who cares?” [William Blum, author of “Killing Hope: U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions Since World War II"] “The CIA has demanded Trump is not elected. Pentagon generals have demanded he is not elected. The pro-war New York Times - taking a breather from its relentless low-rent Putin smears - demands that he is not elected. Something is up. These tribunes of "perpetual war" are terrified that the multi-billion-dollar business of war by which the United States maintains its dominance will be undermined if Trump does a deal with Putin, then with China's Xi Jinping. Their panic at the possibility of the world's great power talking peace - however unlikely - would be the blackest farce were the issues not so dire.” —CGE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: cm_conspiracy_wiki.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 141185 bytes Desc: not available URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Sep 3 16:13:56 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 16:13:56 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] CGE, Donald Trump, Killer Koh & Cultural Marxism, In-Reply-To: <1461714301.791355.1472917716002@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1461714301.791355.1472917716002.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1461714301.791355.1472917716002@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Members of AWARE I’m sorry to be so unprofessional, but because I immerse myself in the horrific geopolitical events surrounding us on a daily basis, that when I come upon Stephen Francis statements below, which should be viewed as absurd and dangerous, all I can do is LMAO, because he is so full of shit. On Sep 3, 2016, at 08:48, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: I must have struck a note for Carl has swooped in like an eagle protecting his chicks to save the day from the dastardly doer. I could do my usual and refute Carl's contention that Jews don't run the world with a whirlwind of facts supporting my claim that they do, but I've learned that this doesn't work, no matter how many or however their unerring veracity, so I need a new tact. Since they have been included in this stream I think that Donald Trump and Killer Koh would be good compliments to a different means to accomplish my goal. But I have to set some ground work for that. A 9/11 anniversary is coming soon and I've recently discovered a whole new area of research, that being Cultural Marxism. Can it be connected to 9/11 and to my response to CGE. I'm finding it's not easy but possible. And of course, I accuse Zionists of being responsible for the controlled (nuclear) demolition of the WTC, thus rationalizing two illegal wars, displacement of millions and the creation of ISIS and not to forget Killer Koh, the legal eagle on drone use..... (pun intended). Trust me, I will eventually connect this. And Donald Trump has come dangerously close to being considered a 9/11 Truther (Obama birth certificate) guy, but that's not where I want to go, but it is an important side point. It's his (Trump) references to political correctness that applies here and its connection to Cultural Marxism, along with a little multiculturalism and even Fabianism. The Obama/Clinton administration's accusations about Trump's racism are key. All major Jewish organizations support him/her on this. My reference here is Prof. Kevin McDonald, UC Davis, one of the 'trashy' speakers at the recent Academic Freedom Conference II. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMNXe2PiYfY NYC has the largest Jewish population outside of Israel, is the home of Ellis Island, is more diverse than any other city in America, is controlled by Jews, who millions around the world believe were complicit in the controlled demolition of the WTC as a 'Pearl Harbor' type event to start two illegal wars. All mayors of New York have been Jewish at least since Koch... and this is just the tip of an iceberg... oh could I launch on this one. (Bloomberg, Giuliani, LaGuardia, Koch, Beame?, and is one of the many homes of Donald Trump... (who seems to have backed off of his declaration of supporting a neutral stance between Israel and the Palestinians). His border wall gets much attention. Trump's support by the Israeli government is pretty shaky, but not when it comes to immigration, there's no wavering (unless you are Palestinian or Yemeni Jew where you are excluded from belonging to the 'Jewish State'). Their hypocrisy on this is astounding. Soros/Clinton/Merkel/Cameron...all support immigration/diversity/ and accuse nonsupporters of being racist including Trump. I'm not a Trump fan but admire his accomplishments in shaking up the 'establishment'. We were fooled by Obama/banksters/warmongers... Trump seems like the real thing? Trump is repeatedly (and politically correctly) accused of being a racist, which he responds by decrying against political correctness. Well, where does this political correctness thing come from? And this is where I'm going to go on a huge tangent. Again please stick with. It will all make sense. I'm not rambling... and it relates to the US media/Wikipedia (Jewish propaganda machine) hiding Jewish involvement in world events which is totally parallel to my accusation that the local Jewish academic community has a grip on AWARE's conversation. So, let's go to the American Revolution which is a glaring example of this obfuscation...I'll try to make this very brief. It is not widely known that the Rothschilds (Jewish/Zionists who basically financed the creation of Israel (1930s Jewish emigration from Germany, early settlements, financed Israeli Supreme Court building, Rothschild Blvd in TelAviv, Israeli national flag Zionist symbol... etc) also financed both sides of the American Revolution. It was their first major step towards amassing their fabulous riches. To make this brief: The Rothschild helped fund the Hessian soldiers fighting for King George and also (Rothschilds) financed Haym Salomon (Jew) who was the main financial backer of the American Revolutionaries (Wikipedia), all with the help of (Jew) Adam Weishaupt (Illuminati, Jewish Freemasons), Rothschilds, ...on and on... If you search Wikipedia on any one of these entries you will never find the Rothschild connection but if you suspect it, it is hiding in plain sight but only if you want to see the connections. see attached graphic. Once you suspect Wikipedia of obfuscation of Israel's involvement in world events you find it is ubiquitous and disturbing. But of course, you (Peace-Discuss list) will not see this or admit to it publicly because the local Jewish academic power structure will not permit it. It is a taboo subject and an academic career will never start or be destroyed if any of this is mentioned. Walt and Mearsheimer found out how this works... Professor Boyle has been dealing with it for decades as he mentioned in his talk on the University of Chicago and the Straussian neocons. See also Truman, IG Farben labor camps, Rockefellers, Bushes, Harrimans, Dulles brothers, Benjamin Freedman and the Treaty of Versailles... etc. See Professor Kevin McDonald's thesis Understanding Jewish Influence III: Neoconservatism as a Jewish Movement http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/understandji-3.htm ... although I strongly suspect you will not read it and just call it 'trash' So back to Donald Trump and political correctness, multiculturalism and Cultural Marxism...and we might as well throw in a little Fabianism (Tony Blair, Bush/Iraq War boys), the British Labour Party, Thule Society and last but not least Marxism.... oh.. I forgot about the Jewish Bolshevik Revolution....sorry. This all relates to AWARE antiwar...etc. If you research Cultural Marxism one of the first things you notice is that it is always accompanied by references to political correctness and multiculturism. Why is this? If you went to Wikipedia a few years back you would have seen a rather innocuous academic discussion (see below attachment) not worthy of any particular attention and especially no mention its Jewish Marxist origins or of it being an anti-Semitic conspiracy, of which it does now on the modern entry... which is now subsumed in the Wikipedia page titled The Frankfurt School. see graphics 2 and 3 ...original and modern Wikipedia pages on Cultural Marxism and The Frankfurt School (Cultural Marxism conspiracy theories.) Cultural Marxism (Frankfurt School) now enjoys the title along with 9/11 Truth, JFK assassination, Israel's nuclear weapons, denial of Nakba, USS Liberty, Bolshevik Revolution...etc of being a 'conspiracy theory'... because the origins of the Frankfurt School is the Institute of Social Research which itself was originally named the Institute for the Study of Marxism...totally dominated by Jewish thought. Hitler and the German people were terrified of Jewish Communists a fact never brought to attention in US media or textbooks.... The Cold War was reframed to specifically omit this. Political Correctness, as you will see in the research, is thoroughly entwined with Cultural Marxism because of the Frankfurt School theorists inclusion as a tool to incrementally break down Western capitalistic societies that did not succumb to the political Communist Revolution. The Reds (Jewish Communists) failed and needed a cultural Plan B to continue their efforts (Cultural Marxism). PC is a tool of CM to smash individual thought, empower collectivism, engage thought police, quash academic freedom. And what about Fabianism? A little research into this also finds Jewish/Communist roots in Nazi Germany and eventually into the British Labour Party and Tony Blair... his close relationship with Bill Clinton, The Third Way, DLC, Ruper Murdoch. and most importantly to the gradual tearing down through cultural means of the middle class in order to soften it for Jewish control (Marxism). They already have control of Congress through AIPAC, ADL etc.. all chairs of the Fed have been Jewish since 1980, they control the media, Hollywood, Las Vegas. The Protocols are alive still because the shoe fits. Of course, this is all considered a 'conspiracy theory' now (according to Wikipedia) but interestingly enough, the supposed real theory is so consumed in esoteric academic speak that most have no idea what the alternative 'real' theory is. And the internet has enabled a wildfire of attention mostly to the 'conspiracy' of Cultural Marxism. You can find the original theory in the graphic below. So, I conclude that once a person sees the grand efforts of the Zionist/Jewish community to obfuscate the role of Jewish power you can never go back. You can't unlearn this. It is spreading like a wildfire across the internet. South Africa, here we come. BDS...yes Oh, I forgot Killer Koh. He's just an important cog in the Jewish/Bankster/Obama/Clinton/drone wars/ perpetual war effort of which we are all in agreement. The real test will be to see if you support Professor Boyle's effort to demonstrate against Killer Koh's appearance or respond to his posts on this Peace/Discussion List.... I rather doubt it...and would be surprised if you did but hope that you will. I will basque in my 'trash' label for a while longer. Stephen Francis xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From CGE To be antiwar is to be anti-Zionist. They are absolutely inseparable. AWARE never touches the subject. You are totally intimidated by the local Jewish power structure. It's obvious and in plain sight. Times are changing. The BDS movement is growing. Anti-Semitism (whatever that is) is growing leaps and bounds because of the internet. It will be a replay of South Africa. Just will take time.... like Chief Illini...was doomed... human nature prevailed. War is the issue in the presidential election. The Higher Antisemitism, beloved by liberals and conservatives alike - "the Jews/Israelis direct US policy in the Mideast" - isn't true; US government policy, in the Mideast as elsewhere, is directed by the interests of US economic elite (the '1%'), which are opposed to the interests of the vast majority of the US population. The US government kills people (more than 20 million people in 37 countries since WWII) to secure the interests of that elite. US government policy in the Mideast since WWII is based on the US demand to control the vast energy resources of the region. Control - and not just access - is what the US demands. Zbigniew Brzezinski: US control over the Middle East “gives it indirect but politically critical leverage on the European and Asian economies that are also dependent on energy exports from the region.” (Since 1967 Israel has functioned as a "stationary aircraft carrier" for US control of the Mideast, so the US has acquiesced in the Israeli government's apartheid policies.) The long-term goal of US foreign policy, stretching back more than a century, is to prevent the economic integration of Eurasia as a rival to the economic hegemony of the US elite. 'Manifest Destiny' hardly stopped at the water's edge but spread across the Pacific, already by the end of the 19th century. (See ; : "Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security.") That long-term geopolitical goal is at heart of the neoliberal and neoconservative movements within the US political class today. Hillary Clinton is their presidential candidate. The remarkable thing - so dangerous to the Clinton candidacy that they can't mention it, and so must concentrate on Trump's connection to racist right-wingers (and Putin!) - is that Donald Trump is not a neoliberal (more austerity) or a neoconservative (more war). With Clinton as president, we're certain to get more war, in the tradition of the last 25 years. With Trump as president, we might not. How can that be a difficult choice? “Yes, Trump’s personally obnoxious. I’d have a very hard time being his friend. Who cares?” [William Blum, author of “Killing Hope: U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions Since World War II"] “The CIA has demanded Trump is not elected. Pentagon generals have demanded he is not elected. The pro-war New York Times - taking a breather from its relentless low-rent Putin smears - demands that he is not elected. Something is up. These tribunes of "perpetual war" are terrified that the multi-billion-dollar business of war by which the United States maintains its dominance will be undermined if Trump does a deal with Putin, then with China's Xi Jinping. Their panic at the possibility of the world's great power talking peace - however unlikely - would be the blackest farce were the issues not so dire.” —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Sat Sep 3 16:28:54 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 16:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] CGE, Donald Trump, Killer Koh & Cultural Marxism, In-Reply-To: References: <1461714301.791355.1472917716002.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1461714301.791355.1472917716002@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1888269652.824054.1472920134244@mail.yahoo.com> You may disagree with what I'm saying, but are there any challenges to the accuracy of my characterizations?Discourse is full of unconventional and uncomfortable rearrangements of facts.Are there any mistakes in my facts?I don't think so.CGE said I was wrong about Jewish power but never defended Prof. Boyle or said that he would support his cause.This is the real test, because we all agree on the dangerous work of Harold Koh. On Saturday, September 3, 2016 11:14 AM, Karen Aram wrote: Members of AWARE  I’m sorry to be so unprofessional, but because I immerse myself in the horrific geopolitical events surrounding us on a daily basis, that when I come upon Stephen Francis statements below, which should be viewed as absurd and dangerous, all I can do is LMAO, because he is so full of shit.  On Sep 3, 2016, at 08:48, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: I must have struck a note for Carl has swooped in like an eagle protecting his chicks to save the day from the dastardly doer.I could do my usual and refute Carl's contention that Jews don't run the world with a whirlwind of facts supporting my claim that they do, but I've learned that this doesn't work, no matter how many or however their unerring veracity, so I need a new tact.Since they have been included in this stream I think that Donald Trump and Killer Koh would be good compliments to a different means to accomplish my goal.But I have to set some ground work for that.A 9/11 anniversary is coming soon and I've recently discovered a whole new area of research, that being Cultural Marxism.Can it be connected to 9/11 and to my response to CGE.  I'm finding it's not easy but possible. And of course, I accuse Zionists of being responsible for the controlled (nuclear) demolition of the WTC, thus rationalizing two illegal wars, displacement of millions and the creation of ISIS and not to forget Killer Koh, the legal eagle on drone use..... (pun intended). Trust me, I will eventually connect this.And Donald Trump has come dangerously close to being considered a 9/11 Truther (Obama birth certificate) guy, but that's not where I want to go, but it is an important side point.   It's his (Trump) references topolitical correctness that applies here and its connection to Cultural Marxism, along with a little multiculturalism and even Fabianism. The Obama/Clinton administration's accusations about Trump's racism are key. All major Jewish organizations support him/her on this. My reference here is Prof. Kevin McDonald, UC Davis, one of the 'trashy' speakers at the recent Academic Freedom Conference II. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMNXe2PiYfY  NYC has the largest Jewish population outside of Israel, is the home of Ellis Island, is more diverse than any other city in America, is controlled by Jews, who millions around the world believe were complicit in the controlled demolition of the WTC as a 'Pearl Harbor' type event to start two illegal wars. All mayors of New York have been Jewish at least since Koch... and this is just the tip of an iceberg... oh could I launch on this one. (Bloomberg, Giuliani, LaGuardia, Koch, Beame?, and is one of the many homes of Donald Trump... (who seems to have backed off of his declaration of supporting a neutral stance between Israel and the Palestinians).  His border wall gets much attention. Trump's support by the Israeli government is pretty shaky, but not when it comes to immigration, there's no wavering (unless you are Palestinian or Yemeni Jew where you are excluded from belonging to the 'Jewish State'). Their hypocrisy on this is astounding. Soros/Clinton/Merkel/Cameron...all support immigration/diversity/ and accuse nonsupporters of being racist including Trump. I'm not a Trump fan but admire his accomplishments in shaking up the 'establishment'. We were fooled by Obama/banksters/warmongers... Trump seems like the real thing? Trump is repeatedly (and politically correctly) accused of being a racist, which he responds by decrying against political correctness.  Well, where does this political correctness thing come from? And this is where I'm going to go on a huge tangent. Again please stick with. It will all make sense. I'm not rambling... and it relates to the US media/Wikipedia (Jewish propaganda machine) hiding Jewish involvement in world events which is totally parallel to my accusation that the local Jewish academic community has a grip onAWARE's conversation. So, let's go to the American Revolution which is a glaring example of this obfuscation...I'll try to make this very brief. It is not widely known that the Rothschilds (Jewish/Zionists who basically financed the creation of Israel (1930s Jewish emigration from Germany, early settlements, financed Israeli Supreme Court building, Rothschild Blvd in TelAviv, Israeli national flag Zionist symbol... etc) also financed both sides of the American Revolution. It was their first major step towards amassing their fabulous riches. To make this brief: The Rothschild helped fund the Hessian soldiers fighting for King George and also (Rothschilds) financed Haym Salomon (Jew) who was the main financial backer of the American Revolutionaries (Wikipedia), all with the help of (Jew) Adam Weishaupt (Illuminati, Jewish Freemasons), Rothschilds, ...on and on... If you search Wikipedia on any one of these entries you will never find the Rothschild connection but if you suspect it, it is hiding in plain sight but only if you want to see the connections. see attached graphic. Once you suspect Wikipedia of obfuscation of Israel's involvement in world events you find it is ubiquitous and disturbing. But of course, you  (Peace-Discuss list) will not see this or admit to it publicly because the local Jewish academic power structure will not permit it. It is a taboo subject and an academic career will never start or be destroyed if any of this is mentioned. Walt and Mearsheimer found out how this works... Professor Boyle has been dealing with it for decades as he mentioned in his talk on the University of Chicago and the Straussian neocons. See also Truman, IG Farben labor camps, Rockefellers, Bushes, Harrimans, Dulles brothers, Benjamin Freedman and the Treaty of Versailles... etc. See Professor Kevin McDonald's thesis Understanding Jewish Influence III: Neoconservatism as a Jewish Movementhttp://www.kevinmacdonald.net/understandji-3.htm ... although I strongly suspect you will not read it and just call it 'trash'    So back to Donald Trump and political correctness, multiculturalism and Cultural Marxism...and we might as well throw in a little Fabianism (Tony Blair, Bush/Iraq War boys), the British Labour Party, Thule Society and last but not least Marxism.... oh.. I forgot about the Jewish Bolshevik Revolution....sorry.  This all relates toAWARE antiwar...etc. If you research Cultural Marxism one of the first things you notice is that it is always accompanied by references to political correctness and multiculturism.  Why is this?  If you went to Wikipedia a few years back you would have seen a rather innocuous academic discussion (see below attachment) not worthy of any particular attention and especially no mention its Jewish Marxist origins or of it being an anti-Semitic conspiracy, of which it does now on the modern entry... which is now subsumed in the Wikipedia page titled The Frankfurt School.  see graphics 2 and 3 ...original and modern Wikipedia pages on Cultural Marxism and The Frankfurt School (Cultural Marxism conspiracy theories.) Cultural Marxism (Frankfurt School) now enjoys the title along with 9/11 Truth, JFK assassination, Israel's nuclear weapons, denial of Nakba, USS Liberty, Bolshevik Revolution...etc of being a 'conspiracy theory'... because the origins of the Frankfurt School is the Institute of Social Research which itself was originally named the Institute for the Study of Marxism...totally dominated by Jewish thought.  Hitler and the German people were terrified of Jewish Communists a fact never brought to attention in US media or textbooks.... The Cold War was reframed to specifically omit this. Political Correctness, as you will see in the research, is thoroughly entwined with Cultural Marxism because of the Frankfurt School theorists inclusion as a tool to incrementally break down Western capitalistic societies that did not succumb to the political Communist Revolution.  The Reds (Jewish Communists) failed and needed a cultural Plan B to continue their efforts (Cultural Marxism). PC is a tool of CM to smash individual thought, empower collectivism, engage thought police, quash academic freedom.  And what about Fabianism? A little research into this also finds Jewish/Communist roots in Nazi Germany and eventually into the British Labour Party and Tony Blair... his close relationship with Bill Clinton, The Third Way, DLC, Ruper Murdoch. and most importantly to the gradual tearing down through cultural means of the middle class in order to soften it for Jewish control (Marxism).  They already have control of Congress through AIPAC, ADL etc.. all chairs of the Fed have been Jewish since 1980, they control the media, Hollywood, Las Vegas.  The Protocols are alive still because the shoe fits. Of course, this is all considered a 'conspiracy theory' now (according to Wikipedia) but interestingly enough, the supposed real theory is so consumed in esoteric academic speak that most have no idea what the alternative 'real' theory is. And the internet has enabled a wildfire of attention mostly to the 'conspiracy' of Cultural Marxism. You can find the original theory in the graphic below. So, I conclude that once a person sees the grand efforts of the Zionist/Jewish community to obfuscate the role of Jewish power you can never go back. You can't unlearn this. It is spreading like a wildfire across the internet.  South Africa, here we come. BDS...yes Oh, I forgot Killer Koh.  He's just an important cog in the Jewish/Bankster/Obama/Clinton/drone wars/ perpetual war effort of which we are all in agreement. The real test will be to see if you support Professor Boyle's effort to demonstrate against Killer Koh's appearance or respond to his posts on this Peace/Discussion List.... I rather doubt it...and would be surprised if you did but hope that you will.  I will basque in my 'trash' label for a while longer. Stephen Francis xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >From CGE  To be antiwar is to be anti-Zionist. They are absolutely inseparable. AWARE never touches the subject. You are totally intimidated by the local Jewish power structure. It's obvious and in plain sight. Times are changing. The BDS movement is growing. Anti-Semitism (whatever that is) is growing leaps and bounds because of the internet. It will be a replay of South Africa.  Just will take time.... like Chief Illini...was doomed... human nature prevailed. War is the issue in the presidential election. The Higher Antisemitism, beloved by liberals and conservatives alike - "the Jews/Israelis direct US policy in the Mideast" - isn't true; US government policy, in the Mideast as elsewhere, is directed by the interests of US economic elite (the '1%'), which are opposed to the interests of the vast majority of the US population. The US government kills people (more than 20 million people in 37 countries since WWII) to secure the interests of that elite.  US government policy in the Mideast since WWII is based on the US demand to control the vast energy resources of the region. Control - and not just access - is what the US demands. Zbigniew Brzezinski: US control over the Middle East “gives it indirect but politically critical leverage on the European and Asian economies that are also dependent on energy exports from the region.” (Since 1967 Israel has functioned as a "stationary aircraft carrier" for US control of the Mideast, so the US has acquiesced in the Israeli government's apartheid policies.) The long-term goal of US foreign policy, stretching back more than a century, is to prevent the economic integration of Eurasia as a rival to the economic hegemony of the US elite. 'Manifest Destiny' hardly stopped at the water's edge but spread across the Pacific, already by the end of the 19th century.  (See ; : "Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security.") That long-term geopolitical goal is at heart of the neoliberal and neoconservative movements within the US political class today. Hillary Clinton is their presidential candidate. The remarkable thing - so dangerous to the Clinton candidacy that they can't mention it, and so must concentrate on Trump's connection to racist right-wingers (and Putin!) - is that Donald Trump is not a neoliberal (more austerity) or a neoconservative (more war). With Clinton as president, we're certain to get more war, in the tradition of the last 25 years. With Trump as president, we might not. How can that be a difficult choice? “Yes, Trump’s personally obnoxious. I’d have a very hard time being his friend. Who cares?” [William Blum, author of “Killing Hope: U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions Since World War II"] “The CIA has demanded Trump is not elected. Pentagon generals have demanded he is not elected. The pro-war New York Times - taking a breather from its relentless low-rent Putin smears - demands that he is not elected. Something is up. These tribunes of "perpetual war" are terrified that the multi-billion-dollar business of war by which the United States maintains its dominance will be undermined if Trump does a deal with Putin, then with China's Xi Jinping. Their panic at the possibility of the world's great power talking peace - however unlikely - would be the blackest farce were the issues not so dire.” —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Sep 3 16:39:48 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 16:39:48 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Killer Koh & Clinton's Emails Redux: Yale Law Mafia: 18 USC 371 v. Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wall Street Journal Editorial today: "...She {Clinton} was almost surely trying to protect from public exposure {with her private email server} the intimate ties between State and the Clinton Foundation-the commingling of her political operation with her official business..." As I said, Killer Koh is part of Clinton's Conspiracy to Defraud the United States government in violation of 18 USC 371-at a minimum. Just a wonderful Role Model for the University of Illinois College of Law Faculty to have give their Endowed Lecture on The Role of Lawyers in Government Service on October 28 in order to get Clinton elected President on November 8 in violation of the Illinois Statute that prohibits the use of any University resources for such domestic electoral purposes-and they know it. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 7:41 AM To: Amanda Bass ; 'Karen Aram' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Green' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Killer Koh & Clinton's Emails Redux: Yale Law Mafia: 18 USC 371 v. Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" On my WEFT interview last week I had mentioned I gave an extensive interview to Dennis Bernstein for Pacifica (including WEFT) on Clinton's email private server system pointing out that she had Committed the crime of Conspiracy to Defraud the United States Government in violation of 18 USC 371, which is a Felony. I was originally hired here to teach Criminal Law and did so for about 7-8 years.You can find the text and analysis of the Statute below taken from the US Attorneys' Manual itself. You can also find my response to a Yale Law Mafia Lawyer for Bush Jr defending Yale Law Mafia Clinton's "ethics". Yale Law Mafia Killer Koh admitted that he advised Clinton on her email systems. In other words, Killer Koh was part of Clinton's Conspiracy to Defraud the United States government in violation of 18 USC 371, which is a Felony. So of course the Yale Law Mafia, the Feddies, the Neo-Cons and the Clintonoids on the Faculty of the University of Illinois College of Law believe Killer Koh is the perfect role model for a Lawyer in Government Service to give an Endowed Lecture on that subject on October 28 while campaigning for Mrs Clinton to get elected President ten days later. PATHETIC! FAB. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:support at lists.aals.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:16 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: [SECTNS.aals] - Yale Law Mafia: 18 USC 371 v. Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" Obviously Feddie Painter studied "Criminal Law" and "Legal Ethics" at Yale Law School. And then he did Damage Control and Damage Limitation for Bush Jr at the White House. Now Feddie Painter is doing Damage Control and Damage Limitation for Hillary and Bill Clinton who also "studied" at Yale Law School. The Clintons' Yale Law Mafia in operation-along with Harold Killer Koh. Looks to me like Feddie Painter is gunning for a High Level Position in the President Mrs Clinton Yale Law Mafia Administration along with Killer Koh. Fab. To the tables down at Mory's, To the place where Louis dwells, To the dear old Temple Bar We love so well, Sing the Whiffenpoofs assembled With their glasses raised on high, And the magic of their singing casts its spell. Yes, the magic of their singing Of the songs we love so well: "Shall I Wasting" and "Mavourneen" and the rest. We will serenade our Louis While life and voice shall last Then we'll pass and be forgotten with the rest. We are poor little lambs Who have lost our way. Baa! Baa! Baa! We are little black sheep Who have gone astray. Baa! Baa! Baa! Gentlemen songsters off on a spree Damned from here to eternity God have mercy on such as we. Baa! Baa! Baa! Fab Fab Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:42 AM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' > Subject: 18 USC 371 v. Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" Skip to main content [Office of the United States Attorneys][The United States Department of Justice] [U.S. Attorneys] Top of Form Bottom of Form U.S. Attorneys Manual * Top of Form Bottom of Form * Home * Index * Search * U.S. Attorneys U.S. Attorneys' Manual You are here U.S. Attorneys » Resources » U.S. Attorneys' Manual » Criminal Resource Manual » CRM 500-999 » Criminal Resource Manual 901-999 923. 18 U.S.C. § 371-Conspiracy to Defraud the United States The general conspiracy statute, 18 U.S.C. § 371, creates an offense "[i]f two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose. (emphasis added). See Project, Tenth Annual Survey of White Collar Crime, 32 Am. Crim. L. Rev. 137, 379-406 (1995)(generally discussing § 371). The operative language is the so-called "defraud clause," that prohibits conspiracies to defraud the United States. This clause creates a separate offense from the "offense clause" in Section 371. Both offenses require the traditional elements of Section 371 conspiracy, including an illegal agreement, criminal intent, and proof of an overt act. Although this language is very broad, cases rely heavily on the definition of "defraud" provided by the Supreme Court in two early cases, Hass v. Henkel, 216 U.S. 462 (1910), and Hammerschmidt v. United States, 265 U.S. 182 (1924). In Hass the Court stated: The statute is broad enough in its terms to include any conspiracy for the purpose of impairing, obstructing or defeating the lawful function of any department of government . . . (A)ny conspiracy which is calculated to obstruct or impair its efficiency and destroy the value of its operation and reports as fair, impartial and reasonably accurate, would be to defraud the United States by depriving it of its lawful right and duty of promulgating or diffusing the information so officially acquired in the way and at the time required by law or departmental regulation. Hass, 216 U.S. at 479-480. In Hammerschmidt, Chief Justice Taft, defined "defraud" as follows: To conspire to defraud the United States means primarily to cheat the Government out of property or money, but it also means to interfere with or obstruct one of its lawful governmental functions by deceit, craft or trickery, or at least by means that are dishonest. It is not necessary that the Government shall be subjected to property or pecuniary loss by the fraud, but only that its legitimate official action and purpose shall be defeated by misrepresentation, chicane or the overreaching of those charged with carrying out the governmental intention. Hammerschmidt, 265 U.S. at 188. The general purpose of this part of the statute is to protect governmental functions from frustration and distortion through deceptive practices. Section 371 reaches "any conspiracy for the purpose of impairing, obstructing or defeating the lawful function of any department of Government." Tanner v. United States, 483 U.S. 107, 128 (1987); see Dennis v. United States, 384 U.S. 855 (1966). The "defraud part of section 371 criminalizes any willful impairment of a legitimate function of government, whether or not the improper acts or objective are criminal under another statute." United States v. Tuohey, 867 F.2d 534, 537 (9th Cir. 1989). The word "defraud" in Section 371 not only reaches financial or property loss through use of a scheme or artifice to defraud but also is designed and intended to protect the integrity of the United States and its agencies, programs and policies. United States v. Burgin, 621 F.2d 1352, 1356 (5th Cir.), cert. denied, 449 U.S. 1015 (1980); see United States v. Herron, 825 F.2d 50, 57-58 (5th Cir.); United States v. Winkle, 587 F.2d 705, 708 (5th Cir. 1979), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 827 (1979). Thus, proof that the United States has been defrauded under this statute does not require any showing of monetary or proprietary loss. United States v. Conover, 772 F.2d 765 (11th Cir. 1985), aff'd, sub. nom. Tanner v. United States, 483 U.S. 107 (1987); United States v. Del Toro, 513 F.2d 656 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, 423 U.S. 826 (1975); United States v. Jacobs, 475 F.2d 270 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, 414 U.S. 821 (1973). Thus, if the defendant and others have engaged in dishonest practices in connection with a program administered by an agency of the Government, it constitutes a fraud on the United States under Section 371. United States v. Gallup, 812 F.2d 1271, 1276 (10th Cir. 1987); Conover, 772 F.2d at 771. In United States v. Hopkins, 916 F.2d 207 (5th Cir. 1990), the defendants' actions in disguising contributions were designed to evade the Federal Election Commission's reporting requirements and constituted fraud on the agency under Section 371. The intent required for a conspiracy to defraud the government is that the defendant possessed the intent (a) to defraud, (b) to make false statements or representations to the government or its agencies in order to obtain property of the government, or that the defendant performed acts or made statements that he/she knew to be false, fraudulent or deceitful to a government agency, which disrupted the functions of the agency or of the government. It is sufficient for the government to prove that the defendant knew the statements were false or fraudulent when made. The government is not required to prove the statements ultimately resulted in any actual loss to the government of any property or funds, only that the defendant's activities impeded or interfered with legitimate governmental functions. See United States v. Puerto, 730 F.2d 627 (11th Cir.), cert. denied, 469 U.S. 847 (1984); United States v. Tuohey, 867 F.2d 534 (9th Cir. 1989); United States v. Sprecher, 783 F. Supp. 133, 156 (S.D.N.Y. 1992)(þit is sufficient that the defendant engaged in acts that interfered with or obstructed a lawful governmental function by deceit, craft, trickery or by means that were dishonest"), modified on other grounds, 988 F.2d 318 (2d Cir. 1993). In United States v. Madeoy, 912 F.2d 1486 (D.C. Cir. 1990), cert. denied, 498 U.S. 1105 (1991), the defendants were convicted of conspiracy to defraud the government and other offenses in connection with a scheme to fraudulently obtain loan commitments from the Federal Housing Administration (FHA) or Veterans Administration (VA). The court held that the district court had properly instructed the jury that: the Government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of a scheme or artifice to defraud, with the objective either of defrauding the FHA or the VA of their lawful right to conduct their business and affairs free from deceit, fraud or misrepresentation, or of obtaining money and property from the FHA by means of false and fraudulent representations and promises which the defendant knew to be false. Madeoy, 912 F.2d at 1492. Prosecutors considering charges under the defraud prong of Section 371, and the offense prong of Section 371 should be aware of United States v. Minarik, 875 F.2d 1186 (6th Cir. 1989) holding limited, 985 F.2d 962 (1993), and related cases. See United States v. Arch Trading Company, 987 F.2d 1087 (4th Cir. 1993). In Minarik, the prosecution was found to have "used the defraud clause in a way that created great confusion about the conduct claimed to be illegal," and the conviction was reversed. 875 F.2d at 1196. After Minarik, defendants have frequently challenged indictments charging violations of both clauses, although many United States Courts of Appeals have found it permissible to invoke both clauses of Section 371. Arch Trading Company, 987 F.2d at 1092 (collecting cases); see also United States v. Licciardi, 30 F.3d 1127, 1132-33 (9th Cir. 1994)(even though the defendant may have impaired a government agency's functions, as part of a scheme to defraud another party, the government offered no evidence that the defendant intended to defraud the United States and a conspiracy to violate an agency regulatory scheme could not lie on such facts). In summary, those activities which courts have held defraud the United States under 18 U.S.C. § 371 affect the government in at least one of three ways: [cited in USAM 9-42.001] 1. They cheat the government out of money or property; 2. They interfere or obstruct legitimate Government activity; or 3. They make wrongful use of a governmental instrumentality. < 922. Elements of 18 U.S.C. § 287up924. Defrauding the Government of Money or Property > Updated December 18, 2015 U.S. Attorneys Manual * Home * Index * Search * U.S. Attorneys U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE * Left o Site Map § Accessibility § FOIA § Privacy Policy § Legal Policies & Disclaimers * Right § Justice.gov § USA.gov Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:26 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: NYT: Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" "When I was the chief White House ethics {sic!} lawyer {sic!} for President George W. Bush..." LOLOLOL! Are we supposed to take this seriously? Bush Jr and "legal ethics? An oxymoron to be sure. As was and still is Bush Jr.'s "ethics lawyer." Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 9676 bytes Desc: image003.jpg URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Sep 3 17:59:36 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 17:59:36 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] CGE, Donald Trump, Killer Koh & Cultural Marxism, In-Reply-To: <1888269652.824054.1472920134244@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1461714301.791355.1472917716002.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1461714301.791355.1472917716002@mail.yahoo.com> <1888269652.824054.1472920134244@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Stephen I don’t cheer, or engage in nonsense. Finished with this conversation. On Sep 3, 2016, at 09:28, Stephen Francis > wrote: You may disagree with what I'm saying, but are there any challenges to the accuracy of my characterizations? Discourse is full of unconventional and uncomfortable rearrangements of facts. Are there any mistakes in my facts? I don't think so. CGE said I was wrong about Jewish power but never defended Prof. Boyle or said that he would support his cause. This is the real test, because we all agree on the dangerous work of Harold Koh. On Saturday, September 3, 2016 11:14 AM, Karen Aram > wrote: Members of AWARE I’m sorry to be so unprofessional, but because I immerse myself in the horrific geopolitical events surrounding us on a daily basis, that when I come upon Stephen Francis statements below, which should be viewed as absurd and dangerous, all I can do is LMAO, because he is so full of shit. On Sep 3, 2016, at 08:48, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: I must have struck a note for Carl has swooped in like an eagle protecting his chicks to save the day from the dastardly doer. I could do my usual and refute Carl's contention that Jews don't run the world with a whirlwind of facts supporting my claim that they do, but I've learned that this doesn't work, no matter how many or however their unerring veracity, so I need a new tact. Since they have been included in this stream I think that Donald Trump and Killer Koh would be good compliments to a different means to accomplish my goal. But I have to set some ground work for that. A 9/11 anniversary is coming soon and I've recently discovered a whole new area of research, that being Cultural Marxism. Can it be connected to 9/11 and to my response to CGE. I'm finding it's not easy but possible. And of course, I accuse Zionists of being responsible for the controlled (nuclear) demolition of the WTC, thus rationalizing two illegal wars, displacement of millions and the creation of ISIS and not to forget Killer Koh, the legal eagle on drone use..... (pun intended). Trust me, I will eventually connect this. And Donald Trump has come dangerously close to being considered a 9/11 Truther (Obama birth certificate) guy, but that's not where I want to go, but it is an important side point. It's his (Trump) references to political correctness that applies here and its connection to Cultural Marxism, along with a little multiculturalism and even Fabianism. The Obama/Clinton administration's accusations about Trump's racism are key. All major Jewish organizations support him/her on this. My reference here is Prof. Kevin McDonald, UC Davis, one of the 'trashy' speakers at the recent Academic Freedom Conference II. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMNXe2PiYfY NYC has the largest Jewish population outside of Israel, is the home of Ellis Island, is more diverse than any other city in America, is controlled by Jews, who millions around the world believe were complicit in the controlled demolition of the WTC as a 'Pearl Harbor' type event to start two illegal wars. All mayors of New York have been Jewish at least since Koch... and this is just the tip of an iceberg... oh could I launch on this one. (Bloomberg, Giuliani, LaGuardia, Koch, Beame?, and is one of the many homes of Donald Trump... (who seems to have backed off of his declaration of supporting a neutral stance between Israel and the Palestinians). His border wall gets much attention. Trump's support by the Israeli government is pretty shaky, but not when it comes to immigration, there's no wavering (unless you are Palestinian or Yemeni Jew where you are excluded from belonging to the 'Jewish State'). Their hypocrisy on this is astounding. Soros/Clinton/Merkel/Cameron...all support immigration/diversity/ and accuse nonsupporters of being racist including Trump. I'm not a Trump fan but admire his accomplishments in shaking up the 'establishment'. We were fooled by Obama/banksters/warmongers... Trump seems like the real thing? Trump is repeatedly (and politically correctly) accused of being a racist, which he responds by decrying against political correctness. Well, where does this political correctness thing come from? And this is where I'm going to go on a huge tangent. Again please stick with. It will all make sense. I'm not rambling... and it relates to the US media/Wikipedia (Jewish propaganda machine) hiding Jewish involvement in world events which is totally parallel to my accusation that the local Jewish academic community has a grip on AWARE's conversation. So, let's go to the American Revolution which is a glaring example of this obfuscation...I'll try to make this very brief. It is not widely known that the Rothschilds (Jewish/Zionists who basically financed the creation of Israel (1930s Jewish emigration from Germany, early settlements, financed Israeli Supreme Court building, Rothschild Blvd in TelAviv, Israeli national flag Zionist symbol... etc) also financed both sides of the American Revolution. It was their first major step towards amassing their fabulous riches. To make this brief: The Rothschild helped fund the Hessian soldiers fighting for King George and also (Rothschilds) financed Haym Salomon (Jew) who was the main financial backer of the American Revolutionaries (Wikipedia), all with the help of (Jew) Adam Weishaupt (Illuminati, Jewish Freemasons), Rothschilds, ...on and on... If you search Wikipedia on any one of these entries you will never find the Rothschild connection but if you suspect it, it is hiding in plain sight but only if you want to see the connections. see attached graphic. Once you suspect Wikipedia of obfuscation of Israel's involvement in world events you find it is ubiquitous and disturbing. But of course, you (Peace-Discuss list) will not see this or admit to it publicly because the local Jewish academic power structure will not permit it. It is a taboo subject and an academic career will never start or be destroyed if any of this is mentioned. Walt and Mearsheimer found out how this works... Professor Boyle has been dealing with it for decades as he mentioned in his talk on the University of Chicago and the Straussian neocons. See also Truman, IG Farben labor camps, Rockefellers, Bushes, Harrimans, Dulles brothers, Benjamin Freedman and the Treaty of Versailles... etc. See Professor Kevin McDonald's thesis Understanding Jewish Influence III: Neoconservatism as a Jewish Movement http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/understandji-3.htm ... although I strongly suspect you will not read it and just call it 'trash' So back to Donald Trump and political correctness, multiculturalism and Cultural Marxism...and we might as well throw in a little Fabianism (Tony Blair, Bush/Iraq War boys), the British Labour Party, Thule Society and last but not least Marxism.... oh.. I forgot about the Jewish Bolshevik Revolution....sorry. This all relates to AWARE antiwar...etc. If you research Cultural Marxism one of the first things you notice is that it is always accompanied by references to political correctness and multiculturism. Why is this? If you went to Wikipedia a few years back you would have seen a rather innocuous academic discussion (see below attachment) not worthy of any particular attention and especially no mention its Jewish Marxist origins or of it being an anti-Semitic conspiracy, of which it does now on the modern entry... which is now subsumed in the Wikipedia page titled The Frankfurt School. see graphics 2 and 3 ...original and modern Wikipedia pages on Cultural Marxism and The Frankfurt School (Cultural Marxism conspiracy theories.) Cultural Marxism (Frankfurt School) now enjoys the title along with 9/11 Truth, JFK assassination, Israel's nuclear weapons, denial of Nakba, USS Liberty, Bolshevik Revolution...etc of being a 'conspiracy theory'... because the origins of the Frankfurt School is the Institute of Social Research which itself was originally named the Institute for the Study of Marxism...totally dominated by Jewish thought. Hitler and the German people were terrified of Jewish Communists a fact never brought to attention in US media or textbooks.... The Cold War was reframed to specifically omit this. Political Correctness, as you will see in the research, is thoroughly entwined with Cultural Marxism because of the Frankfurt School theorists inclusion as a tool to incrementally break down Western capitalistic societies that did not succumb to the political Communist Revolution. The Reds (Jewish Communists) failed and needed a cultural Plan B to continue their efforts (Cultural Marxism). PC is a tool of CM to smash individual thought, empower collectivism, engage thought police, quash academic freedom. And what about Fabianism? A little research into this also finds Jewish/Communist roots in Nazi Germany and eventually into the British Labour Party and Tony Blair... his close relationship with Bill Clinton, The Third Way, DLC, Ruper Murdoch. and most importantly to the gradual tearing down through cultural means of the middle class in order to soften it for Jewish control (Marxism). They already have control of Congress through AIPAC, ADL etc.. all chairs of the Fed have been Jewish since 1980, they control the media, Hollywood, Las Vegas. The Protocols are alive still because the shoe fits. Of course, this is all considered a 'conspiracy theory' now (according to Wikipedia) but interestingly enough, the supposed real theory is so consumed in esoteric academic speak that most have no idea what the alternative 'real' theory is. And the internet has enabled a wildfire of attention mostly to the 'conspiracy' of Cultural Marxism. You can find the original theory in the graphic below. So, I conclude that once a person sees the grand efforts of the Zionist/Jewish community to obfuscate the role of Jewish power you can never go back. You can't unlearn this. It is spreading like a wildfire across the internet. South Africa, here we come. BDS...yes Oh, I forgot Killer Koh. He's just an important cog in the Jewish/Bankster/Obama/Clinton/drone wars/ perpetual war effort of which we are all in agreement. The real test will be to see if you support Professor Boyle's effort to demonstrate against Killer Koh's appearance or respond to his posts on this Peace/Discussion List.... I rather doubt it...and would be surprised if you did but hope that you will. I will basque in my 'trash' label for a while longer. Stephen Francis xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From CGE To be antiwar is to be anti-Zionist. They are absolutely inseparable. AWARE never touches the subject. You are totally intimidated by the local Jewish power structure. It's obvious and in plain sight. Times are changing. The BDS movement is growing. Anti-Semitism (whatever that is) is growing leaps and bounds because of the internet. It will be a replay of South Africa. Just will take time.... like Chief Illini...was doomed... human nature prevailed. War is the issue in the presidential election. The Higher Antisemitism, beloved by liberals and conservatives alike - "the Jews/Israelis direct US policy in the Mideast" - isn't true; US government policy, in the Mideast as elsewhere, is directed by the interests of US economic elite (the '1%'), which are opposed to the interests of the vast majority of the US population. The US government kills people (more than 20 million people in 37 countries since WWII) to secure the interests of that elite. US government policy in the Mideast since WWII is based on the US demand to control the vast energy resources of the region. Control - and not just access - is what the US demands. Zbigniew Brzezinski: US control over the Middle East “gives it indirect but politically critical leverage on the European and Asian economies that are also dependent on energy exports from the region.” (Since 1967 Israel has functioned as a "stationary aircraft carrier" for US control of the Mideast, so the US has acquiesced in the Israeli government's apartheid policies.) The long-term goal of US foreign policy, stretching back more than a century, is to prevent the economic integration of Eurasia as a rival to the economic hegemony of the US elite. 'Manifest Destiny' hardly stopped at the water's edge but spread across the Pacific, already by the end of the 19th century. (See ; : "Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security.") That long-term geopolitical goal is at heart of the neoliberal and neoconservative movements within the US political class today. Hillary Clinton is their presidential candidate. The remarkable thing - so dangerous to the Clinton candidacy that they can't mention it, and so must concentrate on Trump's connection to racist right-wingers (and Putin!) - is that Donald Trump is not a neoliberal (more austerity) or a neoconservative (more war). With Clinton as president, we're certain to get more war, in the tradition of the last 25 years. With Trump as president, we might not. How can that be a difficult choice? “Yes, Trump’s personally obnoxious. I’d have a very hard time being his friend. Who cares?” [William Blum, author of “Killing Hope: U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions Since World War II"] “The CIA has demanded Trump is not elected. Pentagon generals have demanded he is not elected. The pro-war New York Times - taking a breather from its relentless low-rent Putin smears - demands that he is not elected. Something is up. These tribunes of "perpetual war" are terrified that the multi-billion-dollar business of war by which the United States maintains its dominance will be undermined if Trump does a deal with Putin, then with China's Xi Jinping. Their panic at the possibility of the world's great power talking peace - however unlikely - would be the blackest farce were the issues not so dire.” —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Sep 3 18:15:14 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 18:15:14 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Killer Koh & Clinton's Emails Redux: Yale Law Mafia: 18 USC 371 v. Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" References: Message-ID: And once again, when you are now repeatedly watching the Iconic Picture of Clinton checking her Blackberry on the Government Plane as I am on TV, that's Killer Koh right behind her to the right of her. Killer Koh is Clinton's Right-Hand Man. Now coming to the College of Law on October 28 to get her elected President on Nov. 8 thanks to the Law Faculty Yale Law Mafia, their NeoCons, their Feddies, their Clintonoids, and their Dems. Maybe everyone should hold up a Blackberry in silent protest throughout the lecture. Speaking of that, why doesn't someone come to the protest on October 28 dressed up as a Blackberry.That will get everyone's attention. When our Idiot former Dean Mengler invited out Wedgewood to speak in favor of Bush's Kangaroo Courts, I had a student dressed up as a Kangaroo in the Law Atrium before the Lecture, then the Roo and I sat in front of her for the entire lecture. When the DI asked for the name of the Roo, I said Wedgie. Will send it along. But I will not dignify this war criminal, war monger and felon with my presence for his lecture. He stinks of Death and Destruction. I will be outside at our protest denouncing him and the College of Law for inviting him to speak. But if one of you want to dress up as a Blackberry and attend this lecture, that would be great. The Media and the Audience will focus on the Blackberry and associate everything he is saying with the Blackberry, thus completely discrediting him. That's what I did with Wedgie. A little guerilla theater from the 60s. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 11:40 AM To: Amanda Bass ; 'Karen Aram' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Green' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: RE: Killer Koh & Clinton's Emails Redux: Yale Law Mafia: 18 USC 371 v. Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" Wall Street Journal Editorial today: "...She {Clinton} was almost surely trying to protect from public exposure {with her private email server} the intimate ties between State and the Clinton Foundation-the commingling of her political operation with her official business..." As I said, Killer Koh is part of Clinton's Conspiracy to Defraud the United States government in violation of 18 USC 371-at a minimum. Just a wonderful Role Model for the University of Illinois College of Law Faculty to have give their Endowed Lecture on The Role of Lawyers in Government Service on October 28 in order to get Clinton elected President on November 8 in violation of the Illinois Statute that prohibits the use of any University resources for such domestic electoral purposes-and they know it. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 7:41 AM To: Amanda Bass >; 'Karen Aram' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Green' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Killer Koh & Clinton's Emails Redux: Yale Law Mafia: 18 USC 371 v. Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" On my WEFT interview last week I had mentioned I gave an extensive interview to Dennis Bernstein for Pacifica (including WEFT) on Clinton's email private server system pointing out that she had Committed the crime of Conspiracy to Defraud the United States Government in violation of 18 USC 371, which is a Felony. I was originally hired here to teach Criminal Law and did so for about 7-8 years.You can find the text and analysis of the Statute below taken from the US Attorneys' Manual itself. You can also find my response to a Yale Law Mafia Lawyer for Bush Jr defending Yale Law Mafia Clinton's "ethics". Yale Law Mafia Killer Koh admitted that he advised Clinton on her email systems. In other words, Killer Koh was part of Clinton's Conspiracy to Defraud the United States government in violation of 18 USC 371, which is a Felony. So of course the Yale Law Mafia, the Feddies, the Neo-Cons and the Clintonoids on the Faculty of the University of Illinois College of Law believe Killer Koh is the perfect role model for a Lawyer in Government Service to give an Endowed Lecture on that subject on October 28 while campaigning for Mrs Clinton to get elected President ten days later. PATHETIC! FAB. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:support at lists.aals.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:16 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: [SECTNS.aals] - Yale Law Mafia: 18 USC 371 v. Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" Obviously Feddie Painter studied "Criminal Law" and "Legal Ethics" at Yale Law School. And then he did Damage Control and Damage Limitation for Bush Jr at the White House. Now Feddie Painter is doing Damage Control and Damage Limitation for Hillary and Bill Clinton who also "studied" at Yale Law School. The Clintons' Yale Law Mafia in operation-along with Harold Killer Koh. Looks to me like Feddie Painter is gunning for a High Level Position in the President Mrs Clinton Yale Law Mafia Administration along with Killer Koh. Fab. To the tables down at Mory's, To the place where Louis dwells, To the dear old Temple Bar We love so well, Sing the Whiffenpoofs assembled With their glasses raised on high, And the magic of their singing casts its spell. Yes, the magic of their singing Of the songs we love so well: "Shall I Wasting" and "Mavourneen" and the rest. We will serenade our Louis While life and voice shall last Then we'll pass and be forgotten with the rest. We are poor little lambs Who have lost our way. Baa! Baa! Baa! We are little black sheep Who have gone astray. Baa! Baa! Baa! Gentlemen songsters off on a spree Damned from here to eternity God have mercy on such as we. Baa! Baa! Baa! Fab Fab Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:42 AM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' > Subject: 18 USC 371 v. Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" Skip to main content [Office of the United States Attorneys][The United States Department of Justice] [U.S. Attorneys] Top of Form Bottom of Form U.S. Attorneys Manual * Top of Form Bottom of Form * Home * Index * Search * U.S. Attorneys U.S. Attorneys' Manual You are here U.S. Attorneys » Resources » U.S. Attorneys' Manual » Criminal Resource Manual » CRM 500-999 » Criminal Resource Manual 901-999 923. 18 U.S.C. § 371-Conspiracy to Defraud the United States The general conspiracy statute, 18 U.S.C. § 371, creates an offense "[i]f two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose. (emphasis added). See Project, Tenth Annual Survey of White Collar Crime, 32 Am. Crim. L. Rev. 137, 379-406 (1995)(generally discussing § 371). The operative language is the so-called "defraud clause," that prohibits conspiracies to defraud the United States. This clause creates a separate offense from the "offense clause" in Section 371. Both offenses require the traditional elements of Section 371 conspiracy, including an illegal agreement, criminal intent, and proof of an overt act. Although this language is very broad, cases rely heavily on the definition of "defraud" provided by the Supreme Court in two early cases, Hass v. Henkel, 216 U.S. 462 (1910), and Hammerschmidt v. United States, 265 U.S. 182 (1924). In Hass the Court stated: The statute is broad enough in its terms to include any conspiracy for the purpose of impairing, obstructing or defeating the lawful function of any department of government . . . (A)ny conspiracy which is calculated to obstruct or impair its efficiency and destroy the value of its operation and reports as fair, impartial and reasonably accurate, would be to defraud the United States by depriving it of its lawful right and duty of promulgating or diffusing the information so officially acquired in the way and at the time required by law or departmental regulation. Hass, 216 U.S. at 479-480. In Hammerschmidt, Chief Justice Taft, defined "defraud" as follows: To conspire to defraud the United States means primarily to cheat the Government out of property or money, but it also means to interfere with or obstruct one of its lawful governmental functions by deceit, craft or trickery, or at least by means that are dishonest. It is not necessary that the Government shall be subjected to property or pecuniary loss by the fraud, but only that its legitimate official action and purpose shall be defeated by misrepresentation, chicane or the overreaching of those charged with carrying out the governmental intention. Hammerschmidt, 265 U.S. at 188. The general purpose of this part of the statute is to protect governmental functions from frustration and distortion through deceptive practices. Section 371 reaches "any conspiracy for the purpose of impairing, obstructing or defeating the lawful function of any department of Government." Tanner v. United States, 483 U.S. 107, 128 (1987); see Dennis v. United States, 384 U.S. 855 (1966). The "defraud part of section 371 criminalizes any willful impairment of a legitimate function of government, whether or not the improper acts or objective are criminal under another statute." United States v. Tuohey, 867 F.2d 534, 537 (9th Cir. 1989). The word "defraud" in Section 371 not only reaches financial or property loss through use of a scheme or artifice to defraud but also is designed and intended to protect the integrity of the United States and its agencies, programs and policies. United States v. Burgin, 621 F.2d 1352, 1356 (5th Cir.), cert. denied, 449 U.S. 1015 (1980); see United States v. Herron, 825 F.2d 50, 57-58 (5th Cir.); United States v. Winkle, 587 F.2d 705, 708 (5th Cir. 1979), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 827 (1979). Thus, proof that the United States has been defrauded under this statute does not require any showing of monetary or proprietary loss. United States v. Conover, 772 F.2d 765 (11th Cir. 1985), aff'd, sub. nom. Tanner v. United States, 483 U.S. 107 (1987); United States v. Del Toro, 513 F.2d 656 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, 423 U.S. 826 (1975); United States v. Jacobs, 475 F.2d 270 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, 414 U.S. 821 (1973). Thus, if the defendant and others have engaged in dishonest practices in connection with a program administered by an agency of the Government, it constitutes a fraud on the United States under Section 371. United States v. Gallup, 812 F.2d 1271, 1276 (10th Cir. 1987); Conover, 772 F.2d at 771. In United States v. Hopkins, 916 F.2d 207 (5th Cir. 1990), the defendants' actions in disguising contributions were designed to evade the Federal Election Commission's reporting requirements and constituted fraud on the agency under Section 371. The intent required for a conspiracy to defraud the government is that the defendant possessed the intent (a) to defraud, (b) to make false statements or representations to the government or its agencies in order to obtain property of the government, or that the defendant performed acts or made statements that he/she knew to be false, fraudulent or deceitful to a government agency, which disrupted the functions of the agency or of the government. It is sufficient for the government to prove that the defendant knew the statements were false or fraudulent when made. The government is not required to prove the statements ultimately resulted in any actual loss to the government of any property or funds, only that the defendant's activities impeded or interfered with legitimate governmental functions. See United States v. Puerto, 730 F.2d 627 (11th Cir.), cert. denied, 469 U.S. 847 (1984); United States v. Tuohey, 867 F.2d 534 (9th Cir. 1989); United States v. Sprecher, 783 F. Supp. 133, 156 (S.D.N.Y. 1992)(þit is sufficient that the defendant engaged in acts that interfered with or obstructed a lawful governmental function by deceit, craft, trickery or by means that were dishonest"), modified on other grounds, 988 F.2d 318 (2d Cir. 1993). In United States v. Madeoy, 912 F.2d 1486 (D.C. Cir. 1990), cert. denied, 498 U.S. 1105 (1991), the defendants were convicted of conspiracy to defraud the government and other offenses in connection with a scheme to fraudulently obtain loan commitments from the Federal Housing Administration (FHA) or Veterans Administration (VA). The court held that the district court had properly instructed the jury that: the Government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of a scheme or artifice to defraud, with the objective either of defrauding the FHA or the VA of their lawful right to conduct their business and affairs free from deceit, fraud or misrepresentation, or of obtaining money and property from the FHA by means of false and fraudulent representations and promises which the defendant knew to be false. Madeoy, 912 F.2d at 1492. Prosecutors considering charges under the defraud prong of Section 371, and the offense prong of Section 371 should be aware of United States v. Minarik, 875 F.2d 1186 (6th Cir. 1989) holding limited, 985 F.2d 962 (1993), and related cases. See United States v. Arch Trading Company, 987 F.2d 1087 (4th Cir. 1993). In Minarik, the prosecution was found to have "used the defraud clause in a way that created great confusion about the conduct claimed to be illegal," and the conviction was reversed. 875 F.2d at 1196. After Minarik, defendants have frequently challenged indictments charging violations of both clauses, although many United States Courts of Appeals have found it permissible to invoke both clauses of Section 371. Arch Trading Company, 987 F.2d at 1092 (collecting cases); see also United States v. Licciardi, 30 F.3d 1127, 1132-33 (9th Cir. 1994)(even though the defendant may have impaired a government agency's functions, as part of a scheme to defraud another party, the government offered no evidence that the defendant intended to defraud the United States and a conspiracy to violate an agency regulatory scheme could not lie on such facts). In summary, those activities which courts have held defraud the United States under 18 U.S.C. § 371 affect the government in at least one of three ways: [cited in USAM 9-42.001] 1. They cheat the government out of money or property; 2. They interfere or obstruct legitimate Government activity; or 3. They make wrongful use of a governmental instrumentality. < 922. Elements of 18 U.S.C. § 287up924. Defrauding the Government of Money or Property > Updated December 18, 2015 U.S. Attorneys Manual * Home * Index * Search * U.S. Attorneys U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE * Left o Site Map § Accessibility § FOIA § Privacy Policy § Legal Policies & Disclaimers * Right § Justice.gov § USA.gov Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:26 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: NYT: Feddie Painter Vouches for Clinton's "ethics" "When I was the chief White House ethics {sic!} lawyer {sic!} for President George W. Bush..." LOLOLOL! Are we supposed to take this seriously? Bush Jr and "legal ethics? An oxymoron to be sure. As was and still is Bush Jr.'s "ethics lawyer." Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 8:37 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: FW: Gitmo Kangaroo Courts FAB to Wedgie: "Have you sought independent advice from a competent international criminal lawyer about your own personal criminal accountability for committing war crimes?" Wedgie refused to answer. Ditto for Goldsmith. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) "I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts are un-American." ________________________________ [cid:image015.jpg at 01D205E6.144A8250] Archives | Contacts [cid:image016.png at 01D205E6.144A8250][cid:image017.jpg at 01D205E6.144A8250] [cid:image018.jpg at 01D205E6.144A8250] [cid:image007.gif at 01D05190.D656AF10] Friday, March 29, 2002 > News > News Story [ ] [Search] Speaker defends military tribunals Alina Dizik The Daily Illini [Photo (read caption below)] Brian Lambert The Daily Illini Law professor Francis Boyle (front) and "Wedgie the Kangaroo" listen to a speech on Military Tribunals given by Ruth Wedgewood on Thursday afternoon in the Law Building's Rowe Auditorium. Troubled by the "Kangaroo" courts the President ordered last year, the members of the audience came to voice their opinion, with one protester even going to the extent of wearing a kangaroo costume as a sign of protest. Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood defended President George W. Bush's military tribunals to protesters who believed these courts violate human rights. Wedgewood helped draft proposals to prosecute about 150 detained, suspected terrorists in military tribunals rather than jury trials. She explained in a Thursday afternoon lecture that tribunals provide more options for submitting evidence. It is easier to build a case, so the process is faster than the traditional trials, Wedgewood said. Detainees cannot appeal the decision. University law professor Francis Boyle gathered students in Amnesty International and the American Civil Liberties Union to protest the lecture. A kangaroo-costumed person stood outside the Max L. Rowe Auditorium in the Law Building. They passed out flyers encouraging audience members to ask Wedgewood questions not addressed in the lecture. "I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts are un-American." Protesters argued the tribunals jump to the conclusion that the detainees are guilty and that President George W. Bush's proposed military courts will aid in the mistreatment of suspects held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. "They are set up as a conviction conveyor belt; no one has ever been found not guilty," said law student Tony Weiner. But, Wedgewood argued against the assumptions that tribunals lead to predetermined guilt handed down by harsh military personnel. "Military people are engaging, morally concerned people," Wedgewood said. Wedgewood told the skeptical audience that the U.S. court system cannot adapt to the terrorism situation. "September 11 did not have a chance to morph federal district courts," said Wedgewood. "Military commissions give more latitude. It's the traditional way that the law has been enforced." [Photo (read caption below)] Brian Lambert The Daily Illini Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood listens to questions Thursday in the Law Building during her speech about military tribunals ordered by President George W. Bush for non-U.S. citizens suspected of involvement with terrorism. She said military tribunals fit the nation's constantly changing view of the conflict with Islamic Fundamentalists. "We did not understand the Islamic World and didn't know the depth of anger until 9-11," said Wedgewood. She explained jurors could be in danger if they are forced to participate in verdicts against detainees because of unpredictable violence. Retired attorney George Brazitis praised Wedgewood's ability as a speaker but disagreed with the content. "She has the best possible case for the Bush administration viewpoint," Brazitis said. "President Bush would need to amend the constitution to carry out all of the wars that he is proposing." Those opposing the "kangaroo courts" say the United States is not in a war and should not try detainees in that fashion. Before Nov. 13, 2001, military tribunals were last implemented during World War II. "(Wedgewood) doesn't address major problems as to whether we even have a war, nor the violation of the constitutional provision that war can only be declared by Congress," Brazitis said. Some audience members did not have definite views, though. "I have problems with both approaches, we need to do something but I do not know the right approach," law student Adam Keser said. Related Links * NPR Polls on Military Tribunals [cid:image021.jpg at 01D205E6.144A8250]Send letters to letters at dailyillini.com. 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Name: image024.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14225 bytes Desc: image024.jpg URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Sep 3 18:52:39 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 18:52:39 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Wedgie for Gitmo Kangaroo Courts at UI Law School In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Amanda. Remember Amanda had the courage, integrity and principles to organize the NYU Law Students against Killer Koh there and he had overwhelming support from their Law Faculty as well as National Support from Dem Law Professors—just a Gang of Thugs beating up on students. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Amanda Bass [mailto:abass10 at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 1:49 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Karen Aram ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Re: Wedgie for Gitmo Kangaroo Courts at UI Law School That's an excellent idea. Apparently, Clinton, as SOS, went through 13 different blackberries... Amanda On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: At the time my prior calculation was that if I dressed up a guy in a Kangaroo outfit, all of the Media and the Audience would focus on the Kangaroo, thus associating everything she was saying about the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts with the Kangaroo and completely discrediting her. It worked. So maybe someone can show up at Killer Koh’s lecture on October 28 dressed up as a Blackberry, stand in front of the Law Auditorium before the Lecture, and then sit directly in front of him for the entire lecture without saying anything. You won’t have to a word. Just be there. Everyone will get the Message about him and Clinton.fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 8:37 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: FW: Gitmo Kangaroo Courts FAB to Wedgie: “Have you sought independent advice from a competent international criminal lawyer about your own personal criminal accountability for committing war crimes?” Wedgie refused to answer. Ditto for Goldsmith. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) "I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts are un-American." ________________________________ [cid:image003.jpg at 01D205EA.6B6FF070] Archives | Contacts [cid:image004.png at 01D205EA.6B6FF070][cid:image005.jpg at 01D205EA.6B6FF070] [cid:image006.jpg at 01D205EA.6B6FF070] [cid:image007.gif at 01D205EA.6B6FF070] Friday, March 29, 2002 > News > News Story [ ] [Search] Speaker defends military tribunals Alina Dizik The Daily Illini [Photo (read caption below)] Brian Lambert The Daily Illini Law professor Francis Boyle (front) and "Wedgie the Kangaroo" listen to a speech on Military Tribunals given by Ruth Wedgewood on Thursday afternoon in the Law Building's Rowe Auditorium. Troubled by the "Kangaroo" courts the President ordered last year, the members of the audience came to voice their opinion, with one protester even going to the extent of wearing a kangaroo costume as a sign of protest. Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood defended President George W. Bush's military tribunals to protesters who believed these courts violate human rights. Wedgewood helped draft proposals to prosecute about 150 detained, suspected terrorists in military tribunals rather than jury trials. She explained in a Thursday afternoon lecture that tribunals provide more options for submitting evidence. It is easier to build a case, so the process is faster than the traditional trials, Wedgewood said. Detainees cannot appeal the decision. University law professor Francis Boyle gathered students in Amnesty International and the American Civil Liberties Union to protest the lecture. A kangaroo-costumed person stood outside the Max L. Rowe Auditorium in the Law Building. They passed out flyers encouraging audience members to ask Wedgewood questions not addressed in the lecture. "I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts are un-American." Protesters argued the tribunals jump to the conclusion that the detainees are guilty and that President George W. Bush's proposed military courts will aid in the mistreatment of suspects held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. "They are set up as a conviction conveyor belt; no one has ever been found not guilty," said law student Tony Weiner. But, Wedgewood argued against the assumptions that tribunals lead to predetermined guilt handed down by harsh military personnel. "Military people are engaging, morally concerned people," Wedgewood said. Wedgewood told the skeptical audience that the U.S. court system cannot adapt to the terrorism situation. "September 11 did not have a chance to morph federal district courts," said Wedgewood. "Military commissions give more latitude. It's the traditional way that the law has been enforced." [Photo (read caption below)] Brian Lambert The Daily Illini Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood listens to questions Thursday in the Law Building during her speech about military tribunals ordered by President George W. Bush for non-U.S. citizens suspected of involvement with terrorism. She said military tribunals fit the nation's constantly changing view of the conflict with Islamic Fundamentalists. "We did not understand the Islamic World and didn't know the depth of anger until 9-11," said Wedgewood. She explained jurors could be in danger if they are forced to participate in verdicts against detainees because of unpredictable violence. Retired attorney George Brazitis praised Wedgewood's ability as a speaker but disagreed with the content. "She has the best possible case for the Bush administration viewpoint," Brazitis said. "President Bush would need to amend the constitution to carry out all of the wars that he is proposing." Those opposing the "kangaroo courts" say the United States is not in a war and should not try detainees in that fashion. Before Nov. 13, 2001, military tribunals were last implemented during World War II. "(Wedgewood) doesn't address major problems as to whether we even have a war, nor the violation of the constitutional provision that war can only be declared by Congress," Brazitis said. Some audience members did not have definite views, though. "I have problems with both approaches, we need to do something but I do not know the right approach," law student Adam Keser said. Related Links * NPR Polls on Military Tribunals [cid:image010.jpg at 01D205EA.6B6FF070]Send letters to letters at dailyillini.com. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Amanda Bass [mailto:abass10 at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 2:01 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Karen Aram ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Re: Wedgie for Gitmo Kangaroo Courts at UI Law School Thanks FAB, also for your support during that campaign. You all can view the very long list of the liberal hawks who came out in support of Koh: https://sites.google.com/site/haroldkohletter/ Some names will likely surprise you, as they did me. Amanda On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: Thanks Amanda. Remember Amanda had the courage, integrity and principles to organize the NYU Law Students against Killer Koh there and he had overwhelming support from their Law Faculty as well as National Support from Dem Law Professors—just a Gang of Thugs beating up on students. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Amanda Bass [mailto:abass10 at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 1:49 PM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Karen Aram >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Re: Wedgie for Gitmo Kangaroo Courts at UI Law School That's an excellent idea. Apparently, Clinton, as SOS, went through 13 different blackberries... Amanda On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: At the time my prior calculation was that if I dressed up a guy in a Kangaroo outfit, all of the Media and the Audience would focus on the Kangaroo, thus associating everything she was saying about the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts with the Kangaroo and completely discrediting her. It worked. So maybe someone can show up at Killer Koh’s lecture on October 28 dressed up as a Blackberry, stand in front of the Law Auditorium before the Lecture, and then sit directly in front of him for the entire lecture without saying anything. You won’t have to a word. Just be there. Everyone will get the Message about him and Clinton.fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 8:37 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: FW: Gitmo Kangaroo Courts FAB to Wedgie: “Have you sought independent advice from a competent international criminal lawyer about your own personal criminal accountability for committing war crimes?” Wedgie refused to answer. Ditto for Goldsmith. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) "I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts are un-American." ________________________________ [cid:image003.jpg at 01D205ED.AC5538E0] Archives | Contacts [cid:image004.png at 01D205ED.AC5538E0][cid:image005.jpg at 01D205ED.AC5538E0] [cid:image006.jpg at 01D205ED.AC5538E0] [cid:image007.gif at 01D205ED.AC5538E0] Friday, March 29, 2002 > News > News Story [ ] [Search] Speaker defends military tribunals Alina Dizik The Daily Illini [Photo (read caption below)] Brian Lambert The Daily Illini Law professor Francis Boyle (front) and "Wedgie the Kangaroo" listen to a speech on Military Tribunals given by Ruth Wedgewood on Thursday afternoon in the Law Building's Rowe Auditorium. Troubled by the "Kangaroo" courts the President ordered last year, the members of the audience came to voice their opinion, with one protester even going to the extent of wearing a kangaroo costume as a sign of protest. Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood defended President George W. Bush's military tribunals to protesters who believed these courts violate human rights. Wedgewood helped draft proposals to prosecute about 150 detained, suspected terrorists in military tribunals rather than jury trials. She explained in a Thursday afternoon lecture that tribunals provide more options for submitting evidence. It is easier to build a case, so the process is faster than the traditional trials, Wedgewood said. Detainees cannot appeal the decision. University law professor Francis Boyle gathered students in Amnesty International and the American Civil Liberties Union to protest the lecture. A kangaroo-costumed person stood outside the Max L. Rowe Auditorium in the Law Building. They passed out flyers encouraging audience members to ask Wedgewood questions not addressed in the lecture. "I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts are un-American." Protesters argued the tribunals jump to the conclusion that the detainees are guilty and that President George W. Bush's proposed military courts will aid in the mistreatment of suspects held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. "They are set up as a conviction conveyor belt; no one has ever been found not guilty," said law student Tony Weiner. But, Wedgewood argued against the assumptions that tribunals lead to predetermined guilt handed down by harsh military personnel. "Military people are engaging, morally concerned people," Wedgewood said. Wedgewood told the skeptical audience that the U.S. court system cannot adapt to the terrorism situation. "September 11 did not have a chance to morph federal district courts," said Wedgewood. "Military commissions give more latitude. It's the traditional way that the law has been enforced." [Photo (read caption below)] Brian Lambert The Daily Illini Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood listens to questions Thursday in the Law Building during her speech about military tribunals ordered by President George W. Bush for non-U.S. citizens suspected of involvement with terrorism. She said military tribunals fit the nation's constantly changing view of the conflict with Islamic Fundamentalists. "We did not understand the Islamic World and didn't know the depth of anger until 9-11," said Wedgewood. She explained jurors could be in danger if they are forced to participate in verdicts against detainees because of unpredictable violence. Retired attorney George Brazitis praised Wedgewood's ability as a speaker but disagreed with the content. "She has the best possible case for the Bush administration viewpoint," Brazitis said. "President Bush would need to amend the constitution to carry out all of the wars that he is proposing." Those opposing the "kangaroo courts" say the United States is not in a war and should not try detainees in that fashion. Before Nov. 13, 2001, military tribunals were last implemented during World War II. "(Wedgewood) doesn't address major problems as to whether we even have a war, nor the violation of the constitutional provision that war can only be declared by Congress," Brazitis said. Some audience members did not have definite views, though. "I have problems with both approaches, we need to do something but I do not know the right approach," law student Adam Keser said. Related Links * NPR Polls on Military Tribunals [cid:image010.jpg at 01D205ED.AC5538E0]Send letters to letters at dailyillini.com. 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Name: image013.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14225 bytes Desc: image013.jpg URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Sep 3 21:26:05 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 21:26:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Wedgie for Gitmo Kangaroo Courts at UI Law School In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Professor Boyle, Midge’s article “October Surprise: Harold K”Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week” is now available in the Public I. I picked up some extra copies if you like. On Sep 3, 2016, at 12:15, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: Akhil Reed Amar Yale Law School The Yale Law Mafia Brother of our current Yale Law Mafia Dean who invited Yale Law Mafia Killer Koh to speak on October 28 to get Yale Law Mafia Mrs Clinton elected President 10 days later. All these Law Professors and Lawyers are just a Gang of Thugs beating up on a handful of law students with the courage, the integrity and the principles to say: NEVER AGAIN! Ditto for the University of Illinois Law Faculty—Just a Gang of Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Amanda Bass [mailto:abass10 at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 2:01 PM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Karen Aram >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Re: Wedgie for Gitmo Kangaroo Courts at UI Law School Thanks FAB, also for your support during that campaign. You all can view the very long list of the liberal hawks who came out in support of Koh: https://sites.google.com/site/haroldkohletter/ Some names will likely surprise you, as they did me. Amanda On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: Thanks Amanda. Remember Amanda had the courage, integrity and principles to organize the NYU Law Students against Killer Koh there and he had overwhelming support from their Law Faculty as well as National Support from Dem Law Professors—just a Gang of Thugs beating up on students. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Amanda Bass [mailto:abass10 at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 1:49 PM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Karen Aram >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Re: Wedgie for Gitmo Kangaroo Courts at UI Law School That's an excellent idea. Apparently, Clinton, as SOS, went through 13 different blackberries... Amanda On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: At the time my prior calculation was that if I dressed up a guy in a Kangaroo outfit, all of the Media and the Audience would focus on the Kangaroo, thus associating everything she was saying about the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts with the Kangaroo and completely discrediting her. It worked. So maybe someone can show up at Killer Koh’s lecture on October 28 dressed up as a Blackberry, stand in front of the Law Auditorium before the Lecture, and then sit directly in front of him for the entire lecture without saying anything. You won’t have to a word. Just be there. Everyone will get the Message about him and Clinton.fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 8:37 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: FW: Gitmo Kangaroo Courts FAB to Wedgie: “Have you sought independent advice from a competent international criminal lawyer about your own personal criminal accountability for committing war crimes?” Wedgie refused to answer. Ditto for Goldsmith. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) "I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts are un-American." ________________________________ Archives | Contacts Friday, March 29, 2002 > News > News Story [ ] [Search] Speaker defends military tribunals Alina Dizik The Daily Illini Brian Lambert The Daily Illini Law professor Francis Boyle (front) and "Wedgie the Kangaroo" listen to a speech on Military Tribunals given by Ruth Wedgewood on Thursday afternoon in the Law Building's Rowe Auditorium. Troubled by the "Kangaroo" courts the President ordered last year, the members of the audience came to voice their opinion, with one protester even going to the extent of wearing a kangaroo costume as a sign of protest. Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood defended President George W. Bush's military tribunals to protesters who believed these courts violate human rights. Wedgewood helped draft proposals to prosecute about 150 detained, suspected terrorists in military tribunals rather than jury trials. She explained in a Thursday afternoon lecture that tribunals provide more options for submitting evidence. It is easier to build a case, so the process is faster than the traditional trials, Wedgewood said. Detainees cannot appeal the decision. University law professor Francis Boyle gathered students in Amnesty International and the American Civil Liberties Union to protest the lecture. A kangaroo-costumed person stood outside the Max L. Rowe Auditorium in the Law Building. They passed out flyers encouraging audience members to ask Wedgewood questions not addressed in the lecture. "I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts are un-American." Protesters argued the tribunals jump to the conclusion that the detainees are guilty and that President George W. Bush's proposed military courts will aid in the mistreatment of suspects held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. "They are set up as a conviction conveyor belt; no one has ever been found not guilty," said law student Tony Weiner. But, Wedgewood argued against the assumptions that tribunals lead to predetermined guilt handed down by harsh military personnel. "Military people are engaging, morally concerned people," Wedgewood said. Wedgewood told the skeptical audience that the U.S. court system cannot adapt to the terrorism situation. "September 11 did not have a chance to morph federal district courts," said Wedgewood. "Military commissions give more latitude. It's the traditional way that the law has been enforced." Brian Lambert The Daily Illini Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood listens to questions Thursday in the Law Building during her speech about military tribunals ordered by President George W. Bush for non-U.S. citizens suspected of involvement with terrorism. She said military tribunals fit the nation's constantly changing view of the conflict with Islamic Fundamentalists. "We did not understand the Islamic World and didn't know the depth of anger until 9-11," said Wedgewood. She explained jurors could be in danger if they are forced to participate in verdicts against detainees because of unpredictable violence. Retired attorney George Brazitis praised Wedgewood's ability as a speaker but disagreed with the content. "She has the best possible case for the Bush administration viewpoint," Brazitis said. "President Bush would need to amend the constitution to carry out all of the wars that he is proposing." Those opposing the "kangaroo courts" say the United States is not in a war and should not try detainees in that fashion. Before Nov. 13, 2001, military tribunals were last implemented during World War II. "(Wedgewood) doesn't address major problems as to whether we even have a war, nor the violation of the constitutional provision that war can only be declared by Congress," Brazitis said. Some audience members did not have definite views, though. "I have problems with both approaches, we need to do something but I do not know the right approach," law student Adam Keser said. Related Links * NPR Polls on Military Tribunals Send letters to letters at dailyillini.com. Printer-friendly version Related Links * Krannert Museum News Stories Monks create mandala in Krannert Art Museum Anti-bioterrorism funding priority for state Speaker defends military tribunals Trustee to bow out for new board New voting system not coming to Champaign Terror warning alerts abroad students in Italy Gov. Ryan freezes pay raises Police Blotter © 2002 Illini Media Company, all rights reserved. Illini Media: Buzz | WPGU | Illio | Technograph Contacts | Staff | Jobs | Ad Rates | DI Alumni | Privacy Policy -- Seek justice. Walk humbly. Love mercy. -- Seek justice. Walk humbly. Love mercy. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Sep 3 22:57:04 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 22:57:04 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Wedgie for Gitmo Kangaroo Courts at UI Law School In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great. Thanks. I’ll take a few. We get very few here at the southend of the campus. That title is very creative and music to my ears. My thanks to Midge for writing it and to Belden for publishing it. If not inconvenient to anyone maybe someone could post a link or the text to this my informal Killer Koh List so the others could read it. The Yale Law Mafia indeed. Just a Gang of Thugs. Ditto for the rest of the UI Law Faculty. Just a Gang of Thugs. Not fit to educate Lawyers, Members of the Bar, and Officers of the Court. No wonder my life-long Profession of The Law is held in such low public esteem. And my Father was a Lawyer before me. RIP. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 4:26 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Amanda Bass ; Peace Discuss ; C. G. Estabrook ; Mildred O'brien ; Readel, Karin ; Belden Fields ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; peace at lists.chambana.net; C. G. Estabrook ; Bryan Savage ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; jmachota at shout.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Wedgie for Gitmo Kangaroo Courts at UI Law School Professor Boyle, Midge’s article “October Surprise: Harold K”Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week” is now available in the Public I. I picked up some extra copies if you like. On Sep 3, 2016, at 12:15, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: Akhil Reed Amar Yale Law School The Yale Law Mafia Brother of our current Yale Law Mafia Dean who invited Yale Law Mafia Killer Koh to speak on October 28 to get Yale Law Mafia Mrs Clinton elected President 10 days later. All these Law Professors and Lawyers are just a Gang of Thugs beating up on a handful of law students with the courage, the integrity and the principles to say: NEVER AGAIN! Ditto for the University of Illinois Law Faculty—Just a Gang of Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Amanda Bass [mailto:abass10 at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 2:01 PM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Karen Aram >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Re: Wedgie for Gitmo Kangaroo Courts at UI Law School Thanks FAB, also for your support during that campaign. You all can view the very long list of the liberal hawks who came out in support of Koh: https://sites.google.com/site/haroldkohletter/ Some names will likely surprise you, as they did me. Amanda On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: Thanks Amanda. Remember Amanda had the courage, integrity and principles to organize the NYU Law Students against Killer Koh there and he had overwhelming support from their Law Faculty as well as National Support from Dem Law Professors—just a Gang of Thugs beating up on students. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Amanda Bass [mailto:abass10 at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 1:49 PM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Karen Aram >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Re: Wedgie for Gitmo Kangaroo Courts at UI Law School That's an excellent idea. Apparently, Clinton, as SOS, went through 13 different blackberries... Amanda On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: At the time my prior calculation was that if I dressed up a guy in a Kangaroo outfit, all of the Media and the Audience would focus on the Kangaroo, thus associating everything she was saying about the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts with the Kangaroo and completely discrediting her. It worked. So maybe someone can show up at Killer Koh’s lecture on October 28 dressed up as a Blackberry, stand in front of the Law Auditorium before the Lecture, and then sit directly in front of him for the entire lecture without saying anything. You won’t have to a word. Just be there. Everyone will get the Message about him and Clinton.fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 8:37 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: FW: Gitmo Kangaroo Courts FAB to Wedgie: “Have you sought independent advice from a competent international criminal lawyer about your own personal criminal accountability for committing war crimes?” Wedgie refused to answer. Ditto for Goldsmith. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) "I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts are un-American." ________________________________ Archives | Contacts Friday, March 29, 2002 > News > News Story [ ] [Search] Speaker defends military tribunals Alina Dizik The Daily Illini Brian Lambert The Daily Illini Law professor Francis Boyle (front) and "Wedgie the Kangaroo" listen to a speech on Military Tribunals given by Ruth Wedgewood on Thursday afternoon in the Law Building's Rowe Auditorium. Troubled by the "Kangaroo" courts the President ordered last year, the members of the audience came to voice their opinion, with one protester even going to the extent of wearing a kangaroo costume as a sign of protest. Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood defended President George W. Bush's military tribunals to protesters who believed these courts violate human rights. Wedgewood helped draft proposals to prosecute about 150 detained, suspected terrorists in military tribunals rather than jury trials. She explained in a Thursday afternoon lecture that tribunals provide more options for submitting evidence. It is easier to build a case, so the process is faster than the traditional trials, Wedgewood said. Detainees cannot appeal the decision. University law professor Francis Boyle gathered students in Amnesty International and the American Civil Liberties Union to protest the lecture. A kangaroo-costumed person stood outside the Max L. Rowe Auditorium in the Law Building. They passed out flyers encouraging audience members to ask Wedgewood questions not addressed in the lecture. "I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts are un-American." Protesters argued the tribunals jump to the conclusion that the detainees are guilty and that President George W. Bush's proposed military courts will aid in the mistreatment of suspects held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. "They are set up as a conviction conveyor belt; no one has ever been found not guilty," said law student Tony Weiner. But, Wedgewood argued against the assumptions that tribunals lead to predetermined guilt handed down by harsh military personnel. "Military people are engaging, morally concerned people," Wedgewood said. Wedgewood told the skeptical audience that the U.S. court system cannot adapt to the terrorism situation. "September 11 did not have a chance to morph federal district courts," said Wedgewood. "Military commissions give more latitude. It's the traditional way that the law has been enforced." Brian Lambert The Daily Illini Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood listens to questions Thursday in the Law Building during her speech about military tribunals ordered by President George W. Bush for non-U.S. citizens suspected of involvement with terrorism. She said military tribunals fit the nation's constantly changing view of the conflict with Islamic Fundamentalists. "We did not understand the Islamic World and didn't know the depth of anger until 9-11," said Wedgewood. She explained jurors could be in danger if they are forced to participate in verdicts against detainees because of unpredictable violence. Retired attorney George Brazitis praised Wedgewood's ability as a speaker but disagreed with the content. "She has the best possible case for the Bush administration viewpoint," Brazitis said. "President Bush would need to amend the constitution to carry out all of the wars that he is proposing." Those opposing the "kangaroo courts" say the United States is not in a war and should not try detainees in that fashion. Before Nov. 13, 2001, military tribunals were last implemented during World War II. "(Wedgewood) doesn't address major problems as to whether we even have a war, nor the violation of the constitutional provision that war can only be declared by Congress," Brazitis said. Some audience members did not have definite views, though. "I have problems with both approaches, we need to do something but I do not know the right approach," law student Adam Keser said. Related Links * NPR Polls on Military Tribunals Send letters to letters at dailyillini.com. Printer-friendly version Related Links * Krannert Museum News Stories Monks create mandala in Krannert Art Museum Anti-bioterrorism funding priority for state Speaker defends military tribunals Trustee to bow out for new board New voting system not coming to Champaign Terror warning alerts abroad students in Italy Gov. Ryan freezes pay raises Police Blotter © 2002 Illini Media Company, all rights reserved. Illini Media: Buzz | WPGU | Illio | Technograph Contacts | Staff | Jobs | Ad Rates | DI Alumni | Privacy Policy -- Seek justice. Walk humbly. Love mercy. -- Seek justice. Walk humbly. Love mercy. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Sep 3 23:00:35 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 23:00:35 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: [AALSMIN-L] Memorial Day: Home Front In-Reply-To: <918F11F0D707A9458876C1B112320C54033A4A4B@quoll.law.uiuc.edu> References: <918F11F0D707A9458876C1B112320C54033A4A4B@quoll.law.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: RIP. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: aalsmin-l-bounces at lists.ubalt.edu [mailto:aalsmin-l-bounces at lists.ubalt.edu] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:35 AM To: aalsmin-l at lists.ubalt.edu Subject: [AALSMIN-L] Memorial Day: Home Front Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (Voice) 217-244-1478 (Fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ From: Google Alerts [mailto:googlealerts-noreply at google.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:59 PM To: fboyle at uiuc.edu Subject: Google Alert - biowarfare Google News Alert for: biowarfare [http://mwcnews.net/images/stories/art/book/bookhomefront.jpg] MWC News Memorial Day: Home Front MWC News ... ostensibly occasioned the Bush administration's war on Iraq in 2003 - as recounted in my lecture on "BioWarfare, Terror Weapons and the US: Home Brew? ... ________________________________ Tip: Use quotes ("like this") around a set of words in your query to match them exactly. Learn more. Remove this alert. Create another alert. Manage your alerts. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ATT2354082.txt URL: From rwhelbig at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 23:21:05 2016 From: rwhelbig at gmail.com (Roger Helbig) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 16:21:05 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: [AALSMIN-L] Memorial Day: Home Front In-Reply-To: References: <918F11F0D707A9458876C1B112320C54033A4A4B@quoll.law.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: Nice Boyle getting nearly pure fiction posted as fact - obviously, he makes no effort to publish where facts are actually checked - the US Biowarfare program was shut down by President Nixon - from an extensive paper http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/medaspec/Ch-19electrv699.pdf - just the first reference I found when I searched to see if my recollection that President Nixon abolished the program - When the biological warfare program was established, the United States was fighting World War II on two fronts. After the war ended, the Cold War developed and our security was still threatened.* The United States maintained an active offensive biological warfare program until it unilaterally renounced the use of biological weapons in two National Security Memoranda in 1969 and 1970. The United States ratified the Biological Weapons Convention in 1975*. Although capabilities of the world’s military forces have changed significantly in the years following the disestablishment of the U.S. biological warfare program—and despite the Biological Weapons Convention—a biological warfare threat still exists; therefore, the United States maintains a program for medical defense against biological warfare agents. On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss < peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > *RIP.* > > *Fab* > > > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 <217-333-7954> (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 <217-244-1478> (fax)* > > *(personal comments only*) > > > > *From:* aalsmin-l-bounces at lists.ubalt.edu [mailto:aalsmin-l-bounces@ > lists.ubalt.edu] *On Behalf Of *Boyle, Francis > *Sent:* Friday, May 28, 2010 9:35 AM > *To:* aalsmin-l at lists.ubalt.edu > *Subject:* [AALSMIN-L] Memorial Day: Home Front > > > > > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign, IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 <217-333-7954> (Voice)* > > *217-244-1478 <217-244-1478> (Fax)* > > *(personal comments only)* > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Google Alerts [mailto:googlealerts-noreply at google.com > ] > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:59 PM > *To:* fboyle at uiuc.edu > *Subject:* Google Alert - biowarfare > > Google News Alert for: *biowarfare* > > > > > MWC News > > > Memorial Day: Home Front > > MWC News > *...* ostensibly occasioned the Bush administration's war on Iraq in 2003 > - as recounted in my lecture on "*BioWarfare*, Terror Weapons and the US: > Home Brew? *...* > ------------------------------ > > Tip: Use quotes ("like this") around a set of words in your query to match > them exactly. Learn more > > . > > Remove > > this alert. > Create > > another alert. > Manage > > your alerts. > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abass10 at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 18:49:18 2016 From: abass10 at gmail.com (Amanda Bass) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 13:49:18 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Wedgie for Gitmo Kangaroo Courts at UI Law School In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's an excellent idea. Apparently, Clinton, as SOS, went through 13 different blackberries... Amanda On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > *At the time my prior calculation was that if I dressed up a guy in a > Kangaroo outfit, all of the Media and the Audience would focus on the > Kangaroo, thus associating everything she was saying about the Gitmo > Kangaroo Courts with the Kangaroo and completely discrediting her. It > worked. So maybe someone can show up at Killer Koh’s lecture on October 28 > dressed up as a Blackberry, stand in front of the Law Auditorium before > the Lecture, and then sit directly in front of him for the entire lecture > without saying anything. You won’t have to a word. Just be there. Everyone > will get the Message about him and Clinton.fab.* > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 <217-333-7954> (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 <217-244-1478> (fax)* > > *(personal comments only*) > > > > *From:* Boyle, Francis A > *Sent:* Friday, February 27, 2015 8:37 AM > *To:* SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org > *Subject:* FW: Gitmo Kangaroo Courts > > > > *FAB to Wedgie: “Have you sought independent advice from a competent > international criminal lawyer about your own personal criminal > accountability for committing war crimes?”* > > *Wedgie refused to answer.* > > *Ditto for Goldsmith.* > > *Fab* > > > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign, IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 <217-333-7954> (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 <217-244-1478> (fax)* > > *(personal comments only)* > > "I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts > are un-American." > ------------------------------ > > *Archives* * | Contacts > * > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 29, 2002 > News > > *News Story* > > [ ] [Search] > > > Speaker defends military tribunals > > *Alina Dizik * > *The Daily Illini* > > [image: Photo (read caption below)] > *Brian Lambert** The Daily Illini* > > Law professor Francis Boyle (front) and "Wedgie the Kangaroo" listen to a > speech on Military Tribunals given by Ruth Wedgewood on Thursday afternoon > in the Law Building's Rowe Auditorium. Troubled by the "Kangaroo" courts > the President ordered last year, the members of the audience came to voice > their opinion, with one protester even going to the extent of wearing a > kangaroo costume as a sign of protest. > > Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood defended President George W. Bush's > military tribunals to protesters who believed these courts violate human > rights. > > Wedgewood helped draft proposals to prosecute about 150 detained, > suspected terrorists in military tribunals rather than jury trials. She > explained in a Thursday afternoon lecture that tribunals provide more > options for submitting evidence. It is easier to build a case, so the > process is faster than the traditional trials, Wedgewood said. Detainees > cannot appeal the decision. > > University law professor Francis Boyle gathered students in Amnesty > International and the American Civil Liberties Union to protest the > lecture. A kangaroo-costumed person stood outside the Max L. Rowe > Auditorium in the Law Building. They passed out flyers encouraging audience > members to ask Wedgewood questions not addressed in the lecture. > > "I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts > are un-American." > > Protesters argued the tribunals jump to the conclusion that the detainees > are guilty and that President George W. Bush's proposed military courts > will aid in the mistreatment of suspects held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. > > "They are set up as a conviction conveyor belt; no one has ever been found > not guilty," said law student Tony Weiner. > > But, Wedgewood argued against the assumptions that tribunals lead to > predetermined guilt handed down by harsh military personnel. > > "Military people are engaging, morally concerned people," Wedgewood said. > > Wedgewood told the skeptical audience that the U.S. court system cannot > adapt to the terrorism situation. > > "September 11 did not have a chance to morph federal district courts," > said Wedgewood. "Military commissions give more latitude. It's the > traditional way that the law has been enforced." > > [image: Photo (read caption below)] > *Brian Lambert** The Daily Illini* > > Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood listens to questions Thursday in the Law > Building during her speech about military tribunals ordered by President > George W. Bush for non-U.S. citizens suspected of involvement with > terrorism. > > She said military tribunals fit the nation's constantly changing view of > the conflict with Islamic Fundamentalists. > > "We did not understand the Islamic World and didn't know the depth of > anger until 9-11," said Wedgewood. > > She explained jurors could be in danger if they are forced to participate > in verdicts against detainees because of unpredictable violence. > > Retired attorney George Brazitis praised Wedgewood's ability as a speaker > but disagreed with the content. > > "She has the best possible case for the Bush administration viewpoint," > Brazitis said. "President Bush would need to amend the constitution to > carry out all of the wars that he is proposing." > > Those opposing the "kangaroo courts" say the United States is not in a war > and should not try detainees in that fashion. Before Nov. 13, 2001, > military tribunals were last implemented during World War II. > > "(Wedgewood) doesn't address major problems as to whether we even have a > war, nor the violation of the constitutional provision that war can only be > declared by Congress," Brazitis said. > > Some audience members did not have definite views, though. > > "I have problems with both approaches, we need to do something but I do > not know the right approach," law student Adam Keser said. > Related Links > > > - NPR Polls on Military Tribunals > > > Send letters to letters at dailyillini.com. > Printer-friendly version > > Related Links > > > - Krannert Museum > > *News Stories* > > Monks create mandala in Krannert Art Museum > > > Anti-bioterrorism funding priority for state > > > Speaker defends military tribunals > > > Trustee to bow out for new board > > > New voting system not coming to Champaign > > > Terror warning alerts abroad students in Italy > > > Gov. Ryan freezes pay raises > > > Police Blotter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > © 2002 Illini Media Company, all rights reserved. > Illini Media *:* Buzz > | WPGU | Illio > | Technograph > > > Contacts | Staff > | Jobs > | Ad Rates > | DI Alumni > | Privacy Policy > > > > -- Seek justice. Walk humbly. Love mercy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image016.png Type: image/png Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 167 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image015.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2696 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You all can view the very long list of the liberal hawks who came out in support of Koh: https://sites.google.com/site/haroldkohletter/ Some names will likely surprise you, as they did me. Amanda On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > *Thanks Amanda. Remember Amanda had the courage, integrity and principles > to organize the NYU Law Students against Killer Koh there and he had > overwhelming support from their Law Faculty as well as National Support > from Dem Law Professors—just a Gang of Thugs beating up on students. Fab.* > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 <217-333-7954> (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 <217-244-1478> (fax)* > > *(personal comments only*) > > > > *From:* Amanda Bass [mailto:abass10 at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, September 03, 2016 1:49 PM > *To:* Boyle, Francis A > *Cc:* Karen Aram ; C. G. Estabrook ; > C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss < > peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; David Johnson ; > Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; > Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; > peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin < > kereadel at illinois.edu>; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden > Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against > the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage < > bryan at sneezingdogs.com>; Hoffman, Valerie J ; > Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com > *Subject:* Re: Wedgie for Gitmo Kangaroo Courts at UI Law School > > > > That's an excellent idea. Apparently, Clinton, as SOS, went through 13 > different blackberries... > > > > Amanda > > > > On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: > > *At the time my prior calculation was that if I dressed up a guy in a > Kangaroo outfit, all of the Media and the Audience would focus on the > Kangaroo, thus associating everything she was saying about the Gitmo > Kangaroo Courts with the Kangaroo and completely discrediting her. It > worked. So maybe someone can show up at Killer Koh’s lecture on October 28 > dressed up as a Blackberry, stand in front of the Law Auditorium before > the Lecture, and then sit directly in front of him for the entire lecture > without saying anything. You won’t have to a word. Just be there. Everyone > will get the Message about him and Clinton.fab.* > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 <217-333-7954> (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 <217-244-1478> (fax)* > > *(personal comments only*) > > > > *From:* Boyle, Francis A > *Sent:* Friday, February 27, 2015 8:37 AM > *To:* SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org > *Subject:* FW: Gitmo Kangaroo Courts > > > > *FAB to Wedgie: “Have you sought independent advice from a competent > international criminal lawyer about your own personal criminal > accountability for committing war crimes?”* > > *Wedgie refused to answer.* > > *Ditto for Goldsmith.* > > *Fab* > > > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign, IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 <217-333-7954> (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 <217-244-1478> (fax)* > > *(personal comments only)* > > "I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts > are un-American." > ------------------------------ > > *Archives* > * | Contacts > * > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 29, 2002 > > > News > > > *News Story* > > [ ] [Search] > > > Speaker defends military tribunals > > *Alina Dizik * > *The Daily Illini* > > [image: Photo (read caption below)] > *Brian Lambert** The Daily Illini* > > Law professor Francis Boyle (front) and "Wedgie the Kangaroo" listen to a > speech on Military Tribunals given by Ruth Wedgewood on Thursday afternoon > in the Law Building's Rowe Auditorium. Troubled by the "Kangaroo" courts > the President ordered last year, the members of the audience came to voice > their opinion, with one protester even going to the extent of wearing a > kangaroo costume as a sign of protest. > > Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood defended President George W. Bush's > military tribunals to protesters who believed these courts violate human > rights. > > Wedgewood helped draft proposals to prosecute about 150 detained, > suspected terrorists in military tribunals rather than jury trials. She > explained in a Thursday afternoon lecture that tribunals provide more > options for submitting evidence. It is easier to build a case, so the > process is faster than the traditional trials, Wedgewood said. Detainees > cannot appeal the decision. > > University law professor Francis Boyle gathered students in Amnesty > International and the American Civil Liberties Union to protest the > lecture. A kangaroo-costumed person stood outside the Max L. Rowe > Auditorium in the Law Building. They passed out flyers encouraging audience > members to ask Wedgewood questions not addressed in the lecture. > > "I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts > are un-American." > > Protesters argued the tribunals jump to the conclusion that the detainees > are guilty and that President George W. Bush's proposed military courts > will aid in the mistreatment of suspects held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. > > "They are set up as a conviction conveyor belt; no one has ever been found > not guilty," said law student Tony Weiner. > > But, Wedgewood argued against the assumptions that tribunals lead to > predetermined guilt handed down by harsh military personnel. > > "Military people are engaging, morally concerned people," Wedgewood said. > > Wedgewood told the skeptical audience that the U.S. court system cannot > adapt to the terrorism situation. > > "September 11 did not have a chance to morph federal district courts," > said Wedgewood. "Military commissions give more latitude. It's the > traditional way that the law has been enforced." > > [image: Photo (read caption below)] > *Brian Lambert** The Daily Illini* > > Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood listens to questions Thursday in the Law > Building during her speech about military tribunals ordered by President > George W. Bush for non-U.S. citizens suspected of involvement with > terrorism. > > She said military tribunals fit the nation's constantly changing view of > the conflict with Islamic Fundamentalists. > > "We did not understand the Islamic World and didn't know the depth of > anger until 9-11," said Wedgewood. > > She explained jurors could be in danger if they are forced to participate > in verdicts against detainees because of unpredictable violence. > > Retired attorney George Brazitis praised Wedgewood's ability as a speaker > but disagreed with the content. > > "She has the best possible case for the Bush administration viewpoint," > Brazitis said. "President Bush would need to amend the constitution to > carry out all of the wars that he is proposing." > > Those opposing the "kangaroo courts" say the United States is not in a war > and should not try detainees in that fashion. Before Nov. 13, 2001, > military tribunals were last implemented during World War II. > > "(Wedgewood) doesn't address major problems as to whether we even have a > war, nor the violation of the constitutional provision that war can only be > declared by Congress," Brazitis said. > > Some audience members did not have definite views, though. > > "I have problems with both approaches, we need to do something but I do > not know the right approach," law student Adam Keser said. > Related Links > > > - NPR Polls on Military Tribunals > > > Send letters to letters at dailyillini.com. > Printer-friendly version > > Related Links > > > - Krannert Museum > > > *News Stories* > > Monks create mandala in Krannert Art Museum > > > Anti-bioterrorism funding priority for state > > > Speaker defends military tribunals > > > Trustee to bow out for new board > > > New voting system not coming to Champaign > > > Terror warning alerts abroad students in Italy > > > Gov. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Roger Helbig [mailto:rwhelbig at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 6:21 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Amanda Bass ; Karen Aram ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: [AALSMIN-L] Memorial Day: Home Front Nice Boyle getting nearly pure fiction posted as fact - obviously, he makes no effort to publish where facts are actually checked - the US Biowarfare program was shut down by President Nixon - from an extensive paper http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/medaspec/Ch-19electrv699.pdf - just the first reference I found when I searched to see if my recollection that President Nixon abolished the program - When the biological warfare program was established, the United States was fighting World War II on two fronts. After the war ended, the Cold War developed and our security was still threatened. The United States maintained an active offensive biological warfare program until it unilaterally renounced the use of biological weapons in two National Security Memoranda in 1969 and 1970. The United States ratified the Biological Weapons Convention in 1975. Although capabilities of the world’s military forces have changed significantly in the years following the disestablishment of the U.S. biological warfare program—and despite the Biological Weapons Convention—a biological warfare threat still exists; therefore, the United States maintains a program for medical defense against biological warfare agents. On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: RIP. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: aalsmin-l-bounces at lists.ubalt.edu [mailto:aalsmin-l-bounces at lists.ubalt.edu] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:35 AM To: aalsmin-l at lists.ubalt.edu Subject: [AALSMIN-L] Memorial Day: Home Front Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (Voice) 217-244-1478 (Fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ From: Google Alerts [mailto:googlealerts-noreply at google.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:59 PM To: fboyle at uiuc.edu Subject: Google Alert - biowarfare Google News Alert for: biowarfare [http://mwcnews.net/images/stories/art/book/bookhomefront.jpg] MWC News Memorial Day: Home Front MWC News ... ostensibly occasioned the Bush administration's war on Iraq in 2003 - as recounted in my lecture on "BioWarfare, Terror Weapons and the US: Home Brew? ... ________________________________ Tip: Use quotes ("like this") around a set of words in your query to match them exactly. Learn more. Remove this alert. Create another alert. Manage your alerts. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Sep 4 03:18:58 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 03:18:58 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: [AALSMIN-L] Memorial Day: Home Front In-Reply-To: References: <918F11F0D707A9458876C1B112320C54033A4A4B@quoll.law.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: I was asked to attend the signing ceremony for my Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act at the White House by President Bush Senior. Then Gorbachev came to town and it was cancelled. But of course I know nothing at all about biological warfare and biological weapons. Just ask President Bush Sr and all the Members of the United States Congress who all approved by BWATA. I guess they all did not know what they were doing either. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 10:10 PM To: Killeacle Cc: Amanda Bass ; Karen Aram ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] FW: [AALSMIN-L] Memorial Day: Home Front Drafter of the U.S. domestic implementing legislation for the Biological Weapons Convention known as the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, Pub. L. No. 101-298 (1990) (adopted unanimously by both Houses of U.S. Congress and signed into law by President George Bush Sr.). See my book Biowarfare and Terrorism (Clarity Press). Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Roger Helbig [mailto:rwhelbig at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 6:21 PM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Amanda Bass >; Karen Aram >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: [AALSMIN-L] Memorial Day: Home Front Nice Boyle getting nearly pure fiction posted as fact - obviously, he makes no effort to publish where facts are actually checked - the US Biowarfare program was shut down by President Nixon - from an extensive paper http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/medaspec/Ch-19electrv699.pdf - just the first reference I found when I searched to see if my recollection that President Nixon abolished the program - When the biological warfare program was established, the United States was fighting World War II on two fronts. After the war ended, the Cold War developed and our security was still threatened. The United States maintained an active offensive biological warfare program until it unilaterally renounced the use of biological weapons in two National Security Memoranda in 1969 and 1970. The United States ratified the Biological Weapons Convention in 1975. Although capabilities of the world’s military forces have changed significantly in the years following the disestablishment of the U.S. biological warfare program—and despite the Biological Weapons Convention—a biological warfare threat still exists; therefore, the United States maintains a program for medical defense against biological warfare agents. On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: RIP. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: aalsmin-l-bounces at lists.ubalt.edu [mailto:aalsmin-l-bounces at lists.ubalt.edu] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:35 AM To: aalsmin-l at lists.ubalt.edu Subject: [AALSMIN-L] Memorial Day: Home Front Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (Voice) 217-244-1478 (Fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ From: Google Alerts [mailto:googlealerts-noreply at google.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:59 PM To: fboyle at uiuc.edu Subject: Google Alert - biowarfare Google News Alert for: biowarfare [http://mwcnews.net/images/stories/art/book/bookhomefront.jpg] MWC News Memorial Day: Home Front MWC News ... ostensibly occasioned the Bush administration's war on Iraq in 2003 - as recounted in my lecture on "BioWarfare, Terror Weapons and the US: Home Brew? ... ________________________________ Tip: Use quotes ("like this") around a set of words in your query to match them exactly. Learn more. Remove this alert. Create another alert. Manage your alerts. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Sep 4 04:19:16 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 04:19:16 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Book on Biowarfare, Terrorism & Congress yet again / Boyle In-Reply-To: <3C9010C6652AB645BC025F2372A86BB225EF7DA5@mail.law.uiuc.edu> References: <3C9010C6652AB645BC025F2372A86BB225EF7DA5@mail.law.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: JONATHAN KING is Professor of Molecular Biology at MIT and an authority on the genes and proteins of micro-organisms. Prof. King was a founder of the Council for Responsible Genetics and former Co-Chair of its Committee on the Military Use of Biological Research. And of course MIT Molecular Biology Professor Jon King knows nothing at all about biological weapons and biological warfare when he wrote the Introduction to my book. He is almost as dumb about it all as I am. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Clarity Press, Inc. [mailto:clarity at islandnet.com] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:50 AM To: fboyle at law.uiuc.edu Subject: Book on Biowarfare,Terrorism & Congress yet again / Boyle "Only hours after sensors in a U.S. Senate office building detected a nerve agent, key Senators suddenly reversed direction and announced a capitulation to the White House's demands on the renewal and expansion of the Patriot Act. " George Washington's Blog, February 10, 2006. BIOWARFARE AND TERRORISM by Francis A. Boyle Foreword by Jonathan King This book outlines how and why the United States government initiated, sustained and then dramatically expanded an illegal biological arms buildup. Most significantly, U.S. expert Francis A. Boyle reveals how the new billion-dollar U.S. Chemical and Biological Defense Program has been reorientated to accord with the Neo-Conservative pre-emptive strike agenda--this time by biological and chemical warfare. [http://www.bookmasters.com/clarity/images/b0027.jpg]Linking U.S. biowarfare development to the October 2001 anthrax attack on Congress--the most significant political attack on the constitutional functioning of democracy in the United States in recent history--Boyle sheds new light on the motives for the attack, the media black hole of silence into which it has fallen, and why the FBI may never apprehend the perpetrators of this seminal crime of the 21st century. Biowarfare and Terrorism should raise public concern at what the vastly expanded US biowarfare research and purported civilian preparedness programs hold in store for America. Will the American people allow the Bush administration to pursue these programs, despite their incitement to a global biowarfare arms race, and the risk of accidents and reprisals? This book provides a unique tool for understanding the magnitude of the danger, and for countering it. ABOUT FRANCIS A. BOYLE Francis A. Boyle is a leading American professor, practitioner and advocate of international law. He was responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention. He served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia- Herzegovina at the World Court. Professor Boyle teaches international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign. He holds a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University JONATHAN KING is Professor of Molecular Biology at MIT and an authority on the genes and proteins of micro-organisms. Prof. King was a founder of the Council for Responsible Genetics and former Co-Chair of its Committee on the Military Use of Biological Research. CLARITY PRESS, INC. http://www.claritypress.com ISBN: 0-932863-46-9 Paper $12.95 2005 Biowarfare Bulletin, Updates, Table of contents, synopsis and reviews available at: http://www.boyle-biowarfareandterrorism.info Available from: SCB Distributors,15608 South New Century Drive, Gardena, CA. 90248 victor at scbdistributors.com Toll-free 800-729-6423* Tel: 1-310-532-9400 * Fax: 1-310-532-7001 or through www.amazon.com or Ingram or Fernwood Books in Canada. Lindsay at fernwoodbooks.ca To remove: clarity at islandnet.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Sep 4 04:25:30 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 04:25:30 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Book on Biowarfare, Terrorism & Congress yet again / Boyle In-Reply-To: References: <3C9010C6652AB645BC025F2372A86BB225EF7DA5@mail.law.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: So who are you going to believe? MIT Molecular Biology Professor Jon King or a well-known pro-US Government List Troll? President George Bush Sr and all Members of the United States Congress or a well-known pro-US Government List Troll? Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 11:19 PM To: Amanda Bass ; Karen Aram ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: FW: Book on Biowarfare,Terrorism & Congress yet again / Boyle JONATHAN KING is Professor of Molecular Biology at MIT and an authority on the genes and proteins of micro-organisms. Prof. King was a founder of the Council for Responsible Genetics and former Co-Chair of its Committee on the Military Use of Biological Research. And of course MIT Molecular Biology Professor Jon King knows nothing at all about biological weapons and biological warfare when he wrote the Introduction to my book. He is almost as dumb about it all as I am. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Clarity Press, Inc. [mailto:clarity at islandnet.com] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:50 AM To: fboyle at law.uiuc.edu Subject: Book on Biowarfare,Terrorism & Congress yet again / Boyle "Only hours after sensors in a U.S. Senate office building detected a nerve agent, key Senators suddenly reversed direction and announced a capitulation to the White House's demands on the renewal and expansion of the Patriot Act. " George Washington's Blog, February 10, 2006. BIOWARFARE AND TERRORISM by Francis A. Boyle Foreword by Jonathan King This book outlines how and why the United States government initiated, sustained and then dramatically expanded an illegal biological arms buildup. Most significantly, U.S. expert Francis A. Boyle reveals how the new billion-dollar U.S. Chemical and Biological Defense Program has been reorientated to accord with the Neo-Conservative pre-emptive strike agenda--this time by biological and chemical warfare. [http://www.bookmasters.com/clarity/images/b0027.jpg]Linking U.S. biowarfare development to the October 2001 anthrax attack on Congress--the most significant political attack on the constitutional functioning of democracy in the United States in recent history--Boyle sheds new light on the motives for the attack, the media black hole of silence into which it has fallen, and why the FBI may never apprehend the perpetrators of this seminal crime of the 21st century. Biowarfare and Terrorism should raise public concern at what the vastly expanded US biowarfare research and purported civilian preparedness programs hold in store for America. Will the American people allow the Bush administration to pursue these programs, despite their incitement to a global biowarfare arms race, and the risk of accidents and reprisals? This book provides a unique tool for understanding the magnitude of the danger, and for countering it. ABOUT FRANCIS A. BOYLE Francis A. Boyle is a leading American professor, practitioner and advocate of international law. He was responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention. He served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia- Herzegovina at the World Court. Professor Boyle teaches international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign. He holds a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University JONATHAN KING is Professor of Molecular Biology at MIT and an authority on the genes and proteins of micro-organisms. Prof. King was a founder of the Council for Responsible Genetics and former Co-Chair of its Committee on the Military Use of Biological Research. CLARITY PRESS, INC. http://www.claritypress.com ISBN: 0-932863-46-9 Paper $12.95 2005 Biowarfare Bulletin, Updates, Table of contents, synopsis and reviews available at: http://www.boyle-biowarfareandterrorism.info Available from: SCB Distributors,15608 South New Century Drive, Gardena, CA. 90248 victor at scbdistributors.com Toll-free 800-729-6423* Tel: 1-310-532-9400 * Fax: 1-310-532-7001 or through www.amazon.com or Ingram or Fernwood Books in Canada. Lindsay at fernwoodbooks.ca To remove: clarity at islandnet.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Sep 4 09:48:52 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 09:48:52 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Book on Biowarfare, Terrorism & Congress yet again / Boyle References: <3C9010C6652AB645BC025F2372A86BB225EF7DA5@mail.law.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: Helbig is a well-known pro-US government List Troll. It is shameless but typical that he maligned the integrity of my Friend Sherwood Ross. Fab. From: Roger Helbig [mailto:rwhelbig at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 4:33 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] WEFT Interview against Killer Koh and Illinois Law School Sherwood Ross is as truth challenged as you are! Nice to know that you laud a fellow liar! Too bad that University of Illinois has not told you to stop using their e-mail address since I am reasonably sure that you know longer teach there or have an office there. SHERWOOD ROSS BIO sherwoodross10 at gmail.com (305) 205-8281 Education: B.A., race relations, University of Miami, 1955. Awards: * Best spot news coverage for any Chicago radio station, WAAF, 1963,for one-hour documentary on historic March on Washington. * 1965 YMCA Squash Champion, New York City. * 2012, First place medals in age group for American Track and Field, Florida State, in 1,500-meter and 3,000-meter races. * First prize, Florida State Poet's Assn., 2013. Notable Achievements: * Wrote "The Peacemonger," comedy produced at University of Miami's Box Theatre,1952. * 1953, exposed corruption at Lackland A.F Base, San Antonio, got two drill instructors convicted of swindling money from trainees and imprisoned; honorably discharged. * Poetry Writer, WTVJ-Miami's "Vagabond Show," 1955. * Speechwriter for Mayor Richard J. Daley of Chicago 1958-62. * News Director, National Urban League, New York, 1964-1966, under Whitney M. Young, Jr. * Press Coordinator, James Meredith's March Against Fear, Mississippi, 1966. Got Meredith to hospital when he was shot. * Creator and host, WOL radio, Washington, "Speak Up" show. Ranked Number 1 in audience size in DC. * Biographer of Ernest Gruening, author of "Gruening of Alaska," Best Books, 1966. * Founder, 1968, Sherwood Ross Associates, editorial content PR for some 100 National magazines, including The Atlantic, Harvard Business Review, The New Yorker, The National Review, The Nation,The Saturday Review, The New York Review of Books, Woman's Day, Penthouse, Playboy, Essence, Psychology Today, as well as the launch publicity for Ms. and Inc. magazines. Chicago-born Sherwood Ross grew up in Miami, Fla. His father, an immigrant from Russia, was a wholesale liquor salesman and his mother taught elementary school. Ross attended the University of Miami on a varsity debate team scholarship where he majored in race relations and, during his senior year, earned money writing the weekly "Vagabond" 15-minute poetry show every Friday night on WTVJ-TV. At the same time he worked as a reporter for the Miami Herald and wrote humor for its "Fun in Florida" magazine. His comedy, "The Peacemonger," was produced in the University of Miami student Box Theatre, 1952. After graduation in 1955 Ross worked as a reporter for the City News Bureau of Chicago and then the Chicago Daily News: as a speechwriter for Mayor Richard J. Daley of Chicago; as PR Director for the Chicago Urban League until promoted to News Director of the National Urban League, in New York. There, he wrote Whitney M. Young's speeches and ghosted Young's column "To Be Equal," that appeared in The New York Telegram & Sun and 50 other newspapers around the country. Ross served as James Meredith's Press Coordinator when he marched into Mississippi in 1966 and got Meredith to the hospital when he was shot. The next day Ross appeared on the Today Show and called for concerned Americans to join him to finish the march. Thousands came, including The Rev. Martin Luther King, who praised Ross in public, "For all the wonderful things you have done for the Negro people." Book on the Meredith March to appear next February, containing information on how to hear all Ross tapes made for WOL of ML King and other leaders on the march. Ross later wrote 20 skits for "No Shame" theatre in Charlottesville, Va. His short play on Nelson Mandela was produced as "Best of No Shame" at Live Arts Theatre in Charlottesville. Afterwards, in 2004, Live Arts produced Ross's full-length drama "Baron Jiro" about the confrontation of a Japanese business executive with the Army, based on a true event in 1932 involving the president of Matsui Corp. Ross's full-length drama, "Yamamoto's Decision," won honors in two national playwriting competitions, including Theatre Four in Richmond, and was read at the National Press Club, where Ross is a member. The play was about how the Japanese admiral happened to plan and execute the attack on Pearl Harbor. The play also had readings in South Dakota and Montreal. Ross's newest drama, "Kremlin Wife," was read at the Luna Star Cafe, N. Miami, in 2013. A professional publicist operating from his office in the National Press Building in Washington, for 15 years Ross read the editorial content of national magazines ahead of publication and wrote news releases for the publishers which he distributed personally to hundreds of reporters in Washington, New York, and London, cities where he had offices. His clients included The Atlantic Monthly, The New Yorker, Harper's, Playboy, Penthouse, Psychology Today, Ms., Inc., Ebony, Essence, Harvard Business Review, Business Week, Harvard Magazine, Barron's, and nearly 100 other titles. His work publicizing "The Education of David Stockman" for The Atlantic created a national sensation and boosted sales of the magazine by 100,000 copies. William Dickinson of The Washington Post syndicate called Ross "the best media consultant in the business." Ross publicized every issue of the weekly Business Week for eight years; Psychology Today for 10 years (its circulation grew from 100,000 to 1 million); The Atlantic for 11 years and Harvard Business Review for 14 years. Ross also did the launch publicity for Ms. and Inc., the magazine for growing companies. William Shawn of The New Yorker called his press releases "amazing." Ross has also written a number of magazine articles, contributing to "The Progressive," "Mankind(India)," Ebony,(where he was the first white editor), "The Nation," and "The Humanist." Ross has also publicized colleges and universities. In addition to Harvard, he has done public relations work for The Johns Hopkins University, Baylor, Colorado State, University of Tennessee at Knoxville, Miami Dade College, Kalamazoo College, and the Massachusetts School of Law at Andover. At MSLAW he also created and edited a special issue of "The Long-Term View" magazine on corrections. And for publishers Addison-Wesley, Ross publicized its book "Take Care of Yourself," which sold two million copies. Ross also was a PR consultant to Union Camp, Union Carbide, Dow-Jones, Arthur Anderson, and Coopers & Lybrand. Ross is the author of "Gruening of Alaska"(Best Books) about the Senator who led the fight for Alaska statehood. He also contributed speeches to the presidential campaigns of George McGovern and Michael Dukakis. He currently publicizes books and writes widely for the Internet, and does a commentary each month on "The New American Dream" Internet broadcast. Ross is a comedy songwriter and entertains regularly around Miami. He recorded five songs on Fast Folk Musical Album, since purchased by Smithsonian/Folkways Records and his songs are being distributed on that label, including the underground hit, "I Sliced Pastrami For The CIA And Found God." Ross also is a published poet and reads his works regularly at USpeak, sponsored by the University of Miami Department of Creative Writing, and at Books & Books bookstore in Coral Gables, among other places. His poem "Hiroshima," has been widely republished on the Internet. In October, 2013, the Florida State Poet's Assn. awarded Ross first place in the State for his free-verse poem "Bon Voyage." # On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 11:25 PM To: Amanda Bass ; Karen Aram ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: RE: Book on Biowarfare,Terrorism & Congress yet again / Boyle So who are you going to believe? MIT Molecular Biology Professor Jon King or a well-known pro-US Government List Troll? President George Bush Sr and all Members of the United States Congress or a well-known pro-US Government List Troll? Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 11:19 PM To: Amanda Bass >; Karen Aram >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: FW: Book on Biowarfare,Terrorism & Congress yet again / Boyle JONATHAN KING is Professor of Molecular Biology at MIT and an authority on the genes and proteins of micro-organisms. Prof. King was a founder of the Council for Responsible Genetics and former Co-Chair of its Committee on the Military Use of Biological Research. And of course MIT Molecular Biology Professor Jon King knows nothing at all about biological weapons and biological warfare when he wrote the Introduction to my book. He is almost as dumb about it all as I am. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Clarity Press, Inc. [mailto:clarity at islandnet.com] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:50 AM To: fboyle at law.uiuc.edu Subject: Book on Biowarfare,Terrorism & Congress yet again / Boyle "Only hours after sensors in a U.S. Senate office building detected a nerve agent, key Senators suddenly reversed direction and announced a capitulation to the White House's demands on the renewal and expansion of the Patriot Act. " George Washington's Blog, February 10, 2006. BIOWARFARE AND TERRORISM by Francis A. Boyle Foreword by Jonathan King This book outlines how and why the United States government initiated, sustained and then dramatically expanded an illegal biological arms buildup. Most significantly, U.S. expert Francis A. Boyle reveals how the new billion-dollar U.S. Chemical and Biological Defense Program has been reorientated to accord with the Neo-Conservative pre-emptive strike agenda--this time by biological and chemical warfare. [http://www.bookmasters.com/clarity/images/b0027.jpg]Linking U.S. biowarfare development to the October 2001 anthrax attack on Congress--the most significant political attack on the constitutional functioning of democracy in the United States in recent history--Boyle sheds new light on the motives for the attack, the media black hole of silence into which it has fallen, and why the FBI may never apprehend the perpetrators of this seminal crime of the 21st century. Biowarfare and Terrorism should raise public concern at what the vastly expanded US biowarfare research and purported civilian preparedness programs hold in store for America. Will the American people allow the Bush administration to pursue these programs, despite their incitement to a global biowarfare arms race, and the risk of accidents and reprisals? This book provides a unique tool for understanding the magnitude of the danger, and for countering it. ABOUT FRANCIS A. BOYLE Francis A. Boyle is a leading American professor, practitioner and advocate of international law. He was responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention. He served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia- Herzegovina at the World Court. Professor Boyle teaches international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign. He holds a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University JONATHAN KING is Professor of Molecular Biology at MIT and an authority on the genes and proteins of micro-organisms. Prof. King was a founder of the Council for Responsible Genetics and former Co-Chair of its Committee on the Military Use of Biological Research. CLARITY PRESS, INC. http://www.claritypress.com ISBN: 0-932863-46-9 Paper $12.95 2005 Biowarfare Bulletin, Updates, Table of contents, synopsis and reviews available at: http://www.boyle-biowarfareandterrorism.info Available from: SCB Distributors,15608 South New Century Drive, Gardena, CA. 90248 victor at scbdistributors.com Toll-free 800-729-6423* Tel: 1-310-532-9400 * Fax: 1-310-532-7001 or through www.amazon.com or Ingram or Fernwood Books in Canada. Lindsay at fernwoodbooks.ca To remove: clarity at islandnet.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Sun Sep 4 13:06:17 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 08:06:17 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?iso-8859-1?q?Labor=27s_Neoliberal_Caucus?= Message-ID: <002a01d206ad$2290ceb0$67b26c10$@comcast.net> Labor’s Neoliberal Caucus At this year’s DNC, four major unions solidified some of the most concessionary tendencies within the labor movement. by Warren Heyman & Andrew Tillett-Saks Description: Hillary Clinton with SEIU members in 2007. SEIU / Flickr Hillary Clinton with SEIU members in 2007. SEIU / Flickr Our new issue, “ Rank and File,” is out now. To celebrate its release, new subscriptions are discounted. During the 2016 Democratic National Convention, four major labor unions broke from the AFL-CIO Labor Caucus and caucused separately. Few people noticed the breakaway, and those who did likely thought it insignificant or at most slightly peculiar. Yet the move is very significant. It’s part of a broader shift in American labor — a drift away from class-conscious unionism, unionism that believes fighting corporate power and the 1 percent is an unavoidable necessity. The caucus break represents the culmination of a long, steady trend in American trade unionism toward neoliberal unionism — a unionism that espouses collaboration with corporations instead of conflict and upholds free-market capitalism as reconcilable with labor’s interests. If we are to prevent the breakaway from becoming the coup de grace, we must call it for what it is, denounce the split, and reverse the absurd, self-destructive trend of neoliberalism within labor. Otherwise, we will soon be left with a labor movement so feeble its only strategy is flattering and begging its enemies. Labor typically caucuses as a whole at the DNC, providing unions a chance to collectively assess their interests and strategy vis-à-vis the rest of the Democratic Party. This year however, according to sources within the breakaway unions themselves, the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), both major teachers’ unions — the National Education Association (NEA) and the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) — and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) decided to caucus separately. Why? The answer is multi-layered, but ultimately the secessionist caucus represents labor’s burgeoning neoliberal caucus. On the tip of the iceberg is the markedly different approach to Hillary Clinton and the 2016 Democratic primary taken by the four breakaway unions. The AFL-CIO and most unions took a reserved approach to the primary, mindful of Sanders’s far superior labor record but also of Clinton’s superior chances to win. They either withheld their endorsement until after the primary or endorsed Sanders. But the four breakaway unions endorsed Clinton early and enthusiastically. They invested huge sums and resources, and celebrated Clinton as a champion of workers, going all in to propel her past Sanders despite her dubious record towards the working class and unions. On the surface then, divergent strategies towards Hillary Clinton and the Democratic primary inspired the breakaway unions to caucus on their own. But the issue goes deeper than decisions about endorsing Hillary Clinton. Just beneath the surface lingers the more general question of organized labor’s relationship with neoliberal politicians. Democrats have historically been the grudging partners of the labor movement, the more willing of the two major political parties to make concessions when pressured. Labor has thus often taken a more thoughtful and calculating approach to neoliberal Democrats, recognizing their distinct interests but maneuvering strategically at arm’s length to partner when possible. The AFL-CIO’s decision to wait to endorse Clinton until she defeated Bernie Sanders is an example of this more clear-eyed calculation. By contrast, the breakaway caucus unions represent a new way of dealing with these types of politicians, shifting from strategic alliances to sycophantic servitude. In pledging allegiance to Clinton so immediately and so fervently, the four breakaway unions appear to have lost the ability to identify labor’s own interests and enemies. The caucus split is not surprising, given the recent political behavior of the breakaway unions. SEIU, for example, poured $85 million into electing Obama in 2008, then unflinchingly handed over another $70 million in 2012 after Obama abandoned his principal campaign promise to pass the Employee Free Choice Act and repudiated SEIU’s supposed top priority of single-payer health care (all while SEIU’s president hobnobbed as one of the nation’s most frequent visitors to the White House). The NEA and AFT, for their part, have also continued to donate profusely to Democrats (over $30 million in the 2012 election cycle alone) while much of the party leads the charge of anti-union and anti-public-education “reform.” In the new SEIU-AFSCME-NEA-AFT model a contingent handshake from an independent labor movement becomes a full-fledged embrace of neoliberal politicians. If the strategic alliance with the Democrats is questionable, the full-fledged embrace is absurd. Worse, the breakaway unions’ new direction is not simply a crescendo of labor embracing neoliberal politicians, but of labor embracing neoliberal capitalism itself. The “neoliberal caucus” represents the growing rejection of class-conscious unionism based on the principle that workers and owners have inevitably conflicting interests — the very principle the labor movement was built upon. Never mind that these unions (all with large public-sector memberships) appear content to forsake their private-sector counterparts, or that they broke ranks when labor’s political solidarity against anti-worker policies like the Trans Pacific Partnership is vital, but they are also at the forefront of a larger ideological project to sap organized labor of any anticapitalist tendencies. Certainly the scourge of neoliberalism in the labor movement isn’t confined to the four unions in the caucus, but the caucus break crystallizes a worrisome trend. The historical roots of this turn are long — from company unions in the 1930s to anticommunist purges in the 1940s and 50s — but the modern wave is rooted in SEIU and its former president Andy Stern’s push for neoliberal unionism in the 2000s. Stern explicitly and aggressively pushed the labor movement to adopt a “collaborationist” approach towards capital; according to the Stern ideology, workers and unions don’t have to fight corporations, just build “relationships” with them and cajole them into a mutually beneficial partnership. In this spirit, Stern and SEIU amassed a lengthy record of striking deals with corporations that sold out workers’ ability to fight in exchange for promises of union recognition (e.g., Stern’s infamous dealing with health care giant Kaiser Permanente, which agreed to stunt existing members’ contract standards and oppose patients’ rights legislation in exchange for organizing rights). SEIU expanded, but what expanded was a neutered shell of a labor movement, full of members with preposterous contracts and little ability to fight for better. Stern is gone but his ideological legacy remains, as evidenced by the separate caucus at the DNC. From embracing free-market capitalism to embracing employers to embracing their political representatives, the political and intellectual lineage is clear. The proliferation of this model of unionism would spell disaster for the American labor movement. Our movement’s success depends on how widely and how militantly we can organize workers to fight corporate power and the 1 percent, not embrace them. We must constantly encourage workers to recognize their common bonds and their common enemy in greedy owners, not discourage their class analysis. A labor movement without a class analysis is one doomed to confusion and failure as a result. The neoliberal caucus at the Democratic National Convention is another step in that direction. Unfortunately, while the cancer may be most developed in the four breakaway unions, it isn’t confined there. It infects all too much of the institutional labor movement. But militant struggle against neoliberalism within the movement can stem the tide, such as Labor For Bernie’s success in keeping the AFL-CIO at least neutral in the primary. In the past year over one hundred local unions, several internationals, and countless rank-and-file activists endorsed Sanders and coalesced as Labor For Bernie in an upstart rejection of status-quo conservative unionism. To alter the old adage, the friend of our enemy is our enemy — labor activists must broaden the struggle to fight against not only corporations, but also corporate-minded politicians and unionists. Union members and leaders must do everything in their power to halt the march of neoliberal unionism, before they march the labor movement straight into its grave. Our new issue, “ Rank and File,” is out now. To celebrate its release, new subscriptions are discounted. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 4:49 AM To: Amanda Bass ; Karen Aram ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: RE: Book on Biowarfare,Terrorism & Congress yet again / Boyle Helbig is a well-known pro-US government List Troll. It is shameless but typical that he maligned the integrity of my Friend Sherwood Ross. Fab. From: Roger Helbig [mailto:rwhelbig at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 4:33 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] WEFT Interview against Killer Koh and Illinois Law School Sherwood Ross is as truth challenged as you are! Nice to know that you laud a fellow liar! Too bad that University of Illinois has not told you to stop using their e-mail address since I am reasonably sure that you know longer teach there or have an office there. SHERWOOD ROSS BIO sherwoodross10 at gmail.com (305) 205-8281 Education: B.A., race relations, University of Miami, 1955. Awards: * Best spot news coverage for any Chicago radio station, WAAF, 1963,for one-hour documentary on historic March on Washington. * 1965 YMCA Squash Champion, New York City. * 2012, First place medals in age group for American Track and Field, Florida State, in 1,500-meter and 3,000-meter races. * First prize, Florida State Poet's Assn., 2013. Notable Achievements: * Wrote "The Peacemonger," comedy produced at University of Miami's Box Theatre,1952. * 1953, exposed corruption at Lackland A.F Base, San Antonio, got two drill instructors convicted of swindling money from trainees and imprisoned; honorably discharged. * Poetry Writer, WTVJ-Miami's "Vagabond Show," 1955. * Speechwriter for Mayor Richard J. Daley of Chicago 1958-62. * News Director, National Urban League, New York, 1964-1966, under Whitney M. Young, Jr. * Press Coordinator, James Meredith's March Against Fear, Mississippi, 1966. Got Meredith to hospital when he was shot. * Creator and host, WOL radio, Washington, "Speak Up" show. Ranked Number 1 in audience size in DC. * Biographer of Ernest Gruening, author of "Gruening of Alaska," Best Books, 1966. * Founder, 1968, Sherwood Ross Associates, editorial content PR for some 100 National magazines, including The Atlantic, Harvard Business Review, The New Yorker, The National Review, The Nation,The Saturday Review, The New York Review of Books, Woman's Day, Penthouse, Playboy, Essence, Psychology Today, as well as the launch publicity for Ms. and Inc. magazines. Chicago-born Sherwood Ross grew up in Miami, Fla. His father, an immigrant from Russia, was a wholesale liquor salesman and his mother taught elementary school. Ross attended the University of Miami on a varsity debate team scholarship where he majored in race relations and, during his senior year, earned money writing the weekly "Vagabond" 15-minute poetry show every Friday night on WTVJ-TV. At the same time he worked as a reporter for the Miami Herald and wrote humor for its "Fun in Florida" magazine. His comedy, "The Peacemonger," was produced in the University of Miami student Box Theatre, 1952. After graduation in 1955 Ross worked as a reporter for the City News Bureau of Chicago and then the Chicago Daily News: as a speechwriter for Mayor Richard J. Daley of Chicago; as PR Director for the Chicago Urban League until promoted to News Director of the National Urban League, in New York. There, he wrote Whitney M. Young's speeches and ghosted Young's column "To Be Equal," that appeared in The New York Telegram & Sun and 50 other newspapers around the country. Ross served as James Meredith's Press Coordinator when he marched into Mississippi in 1966 and got Meredith to the hospital when he was shot. The next day Ross appeared on the Today Show and called for concerned Americans to join him to finish the march. Thousands came, including The Rev. Martin Luther King, who praised Ross in public, "For all the wonderful things you have done for the Negro people." Book on the Meredith March to appear next February, containing information on how to hear all Ross tapes made for WOL of ML King and other leaders on the march. Ross later wrote 20 skits for "No Shame" theatre in Charlottesville, Va. His short play on Nelson Mandela was produced as "Best of No Shame" at Live Arts Theatre in Charlottesville. Afterwards, in 2004, Live Arts produced Ross's full-length drama "Baron Jiro" about the confrontation of a Japanese business executive with the Army, based on a true event in 1932 involving the president of Matsui Corp. Ross's full-length drama, "Yamamoto's Decision," won honors in two national playwriting competitions, including Theatre Four in Richmond, and was read at the National Press Club, where Ross is a member. The play was about how the Japanese admiral happened to plan and execute the attack on Pearl Harbor. The play also had readings in South Dakota and Montreal. Ross's newest drama, "Kremlin Wife," was read at the Luna Star Cafe, N. Miami, in 2013. A professional publicist operating from his office in the National Press Building in Washington, for 15 years Ross read the editorial content of national magazines ahead of publication and wrote news releases for the publishers which he distributed personally to hundreds of reporters in Washington, New York, and London, cities where he had offices. His clients included The Atlantic Monthly, The New Yorker, Harper's, Playboy, Penthouse, Psychology Today, Ms., Inc., Ebony, Essence, Harvard Business Review, Business Week, Harvard Magazine, Barron's, and nearly 100 other titles. His work publicizing "The Education of David Stockman" for The Atlantic created a national sensation and boosted sales of the magazine by 100,000 copies. William Dickinson of The Washington Post syndicate called Ross "the best media consultant in the business." Ross publicized every issue of the weekly Business Week for eight years; Psychology Today for 10 years (its circulation grew from 100,000 to 1 million); The Atlantic for 11 years and Harvard Business Review for 14 years. Ross also did the launch publicity for Ms. and Inc., the magazine for growing companies. William Shawn of The New Yorker called his press releases "amazing." Ross has also written a number of magazine articles, contributing to "The Progressive," "Mankind(India)," Ebony,(where he was the first white editor), "The Nation," and "The Humanist." Ross has also publicized colleges and universities. In addition to Harvard, he has done public relations work for The Johns Hopkins University, Baylor, Colorado State, University of Tennessee at Knoxville, Miami Dade College, Kalamazoo College, and the Massachusetts School of Law at Andover. At MSLAW he also created and edited a special issue of "The Long-Term View" magazine on corrections. And for publishers Addison-Wesley, Ross publicized its book "Take Care of Yourself," which sold two million copies. Ross also was a PR consultant to Union Camp, Union Carbide, Dow-Jones, Arthur Anderson, and Coopers & Lybrand. Ross is the author of "Gruening of Alaska"(Best Books) about the Senator who led the fight for Alaska statehood. He also contributed speeches to the presidential campaigns of George McGovern and Michael Dukakis. He currently publicizes books and writes widely for the Internet, and does a commentary each month on "The New American Dream" Internet broadcast. Ross is a comedy songwriter and entertains regularly around Miami. He recorded five songs on Fast Folk Musical Album, since purchased by Smithsonian/Folkways Records and his songs are being distributed on that label, including the underground hit, "I Sliced Pastrami For The CIA And Found God." Ross also is a published poet and reads his works regularly at USpeak, sponsored by the University of Miami Department of Creative Writing, and at Books & Books bookstore in Coral Gables, among other places. His poem "Hiroshima," has been widely republished on the Internet. In October, 2013, the Florida State Poet's Assn. awarded Ross first place in the State for his free-verse poem "Bon Voyage." # On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 11:25 PM To: Amanda Bass >; Karen Aram >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: RE: Book on Biowarfare,Terrorism & Congress yet again / Boyle So who are you going to believe? MIT Molecular Biology Professor Jon King or a well-known pro-US Government List Troll? President George Bush Sr and all Members of the United States Congress or a well-known pro-US Government List Troll? Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 11:19 PM To: Amanda Bass >; Karen Aram >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: FW: Book on Biowarfare,Terrorism & Congress yet again / Boyle JONATHAN KING is Professor of Molecular Biology at MIT and an authority on the genes and proteins of micro-organisms. Prof. King was a founder of the Council for Responsible Genetics and former Co-Chair of its Committee on the Military Use of Biological Research. And of course MIT Molecular Biology Professor Jon King knows nothing at all about biological weapons and biological warfare when he wrote the Introduction to my book. He is almost as dumb about it all as I am. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Clarity Press, Inc. [mailto:clarity at islandnet.com] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:50 AM To: fboyle at law.uiuc.edu Subject: Book on Biowarfare,Terrorism & Congress yet again / Boyle "Only hours after sensors in a U.S. Senate office building detected a nerve agent, key Senators suddenly reversed direction and announced a capitulation to the White House's demands on the renewal and expansion of the Patriot Act. " George Washington's Blog, February 10, 2006. BIOWARFARE AND TERRORISM by Francis A. Boyle Foreword by Jonathan King This book outlines how and why the United States government initiated, sustained and then dramatically expanded an illegal biological arms buildup. Most significantly, U.S. expert Francis A. Boyle reveals how the new billion-dollar U.S. Chemical and Biological Defense Program has been reorientated to accord with the Neo-Conservative pre-emptive strike agenda--this time by biological and chemical warfare. [http://www.bookmasters.com/clarity/images/b0027.jpg]Linking U.S. biowarfare development to the October 2001 anthrax attack on Congress--the most significant political attack on the constitutional functioning of democracy in the United States in recent history--Boyle sheds new light on the motives for the attack, the media black hole of silence into which it has fallen, and why the FBI may never apprehend the perpetrators of this seminal crime of the 21st century. Biowarfare and Terrorism should raise public concern at what the vastly expanded US biowarfare research and purported civilian preparedness programs hold in store for America. Will the American people allow the Bush administration to pursue these programs, despite their incitement to a global biowarfare arms race, and the risk of accidents and reprisals? This book provides a unique tool for understanding the magnitude of the danger, and for countering it. ABOUT FRANCIS A. BOYLE Francis A. Boyle is a leading American professor, practitioner and advocate of international law. He was responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention. He served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia- Herzegovina at the World Court. Professor Boyle teaches international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign. He holds a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University JONATHAN KING is Professor of Molecular Biology at MIT and an authority on the genes and proteins of micro-organisms. Prof. King was a founder of the Council for Responsible Genetics and former Co-Chair of its Committee on the Military Use of Biological Research. CLARITY PRESS, INC. http://www.claritypress.com ISBN: 0-932863-46-9 Paper $12.95 2005 Biowarfare Bulletin, Updates, Table of contents, synopsis and reviews available at: http://www.boyle-biowarfareandterrorism.info Available from: SCB Distributors,15608 South New Century Drive, Gardena, CA. 90248 victor at scbdistributors.com Toll-free 800-729-6423* Tel: 1-310-532-9400 * Fax: 1-310-532-7001 or through www.amazon.com or Ingram or Fernwood Books in Canada. Lindsay at fernwoodbooks.ca To remove: clarity at islandnet.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Sep 4 14:44:45 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 14:44:45 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Killing Kids at Yale Law Mafia School In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It gave me an enormous amount of pleasure in early January 1977 to beat the hell out of and stun into silence Yale Law Mafia Dean Gene Vietnam War Rostow in the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Lounge at the Yale Law Mafia Law School in front of the entire Yale Law Mafia Faculty, many of whom he had hired—“Gene’s Kids.” The Yale Law Mafia were and still are just a Gang of Thugs. Now ditto for the Illinois Law Faculty Mafia. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 5:36 AM To: Amanda Bass ; Karen Aram ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Killing Kids at Yale Law Mafia School The Yale Law Mafia School: From Dean Gene Vietnam War Rostow to Dean Harold Killer Koh until today. Just a Gang of Thugs! Ditto for the University of Illinois College of Law Faculty. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Feed: OpEdNews Posted on: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:40 AM Author: OpEdNews Subject: Killing Kids at Yale Law School Poetry by America's top fighter for international legal justice about corruption in the legal profession. View article... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Sep 4 18:11:49 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 18:11:49 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] WOW! MIDGE! Killing Kids at Yale Law Mafia School Message-ID: I had to run an errand over on campus today and picked up the new Public I. WOW! Midge! What an article. You got everything in there. And I really like the Headline: “October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week.” Really sticking it to the Illinois Law Faculty Mafia and the Yale Law Mafia—just two Gangs of Thugs who will be permanently conjoined with each other on October 28. When the link is available I hope someone can send it along to me so that I can post it to my Killer Koh List. It would have been icing on the cake if Public I could have also squeezed in that iconic photo of Clinton working her Blackberry on the government plane with Killer Koh right behind her to her right. But that’s alright. We could have six foot high blown up card board posters of the photo at our little reception for Killer Koh—prima facie evidence of Killer Koh and Clinton committing Conspiracy to Defraud the United States Government—a felony—on a US government plane. What more could I want as a Prosecutor? Way to go Midge! Way to go Public I! Made my day! And will make my week at the Law School starting on Tuesday. I already have 38 years of knives sticking out of my back over there. So they will have a hard time finding space for another round of them. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 9:45 AM To: Amanda Bass ; Karen Aram ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson Subject: RE: Killing Kids at Yale Law Mafia School It gave me an enormous amount of pleasure in early January 1977 to beat the hell out of and stun into silence Yale Law Mafia Dean Gene Vietnam War Rostow in the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Lounge at the Yale Law Mafia Law School in front of the entire Yale Law Mafia Faculty, many of whom he had hired—“Gene’s Kids.” The Yale Law Mafia were and still are just a Gang of Thugs. Now ditto for the Illinois Law Faculty Mafia. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 5:36 AM To: Amanda Bass >; Karen Aram >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Killing Kids at Yale Law Mafia School The Yale Law Mafia School: From Dean Gene Vietnam War Rostow to Dean Harold Killer Koh until today. Just a Gang of Thugs! Ditto for the University of Illinois College of Law Faculty. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Feed: OpEdNews Posted on: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:40 AM Author: OpEdNews Subject: Killing Kids at Yale Law School Poetry by America's top fighter for international legal justice about corruption in the legal profession. View article... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidcnswanson at gmail.com Sun Sep 4 18:17:10 2016 From: davidcnswanson at gmail.com (David Swanson) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 14:17:10 -0400 Subject: [Peace-discuss] WOW! MIDGE! Killing Kids at Yale Law Mafia School In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: got link? On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > *I had to run an errand over on campus today and picked up the new Public > I. WOW! Midge! What an article. You got everything in there. And I really > like the Headline: “October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI > Law School in Election Week.”* > > *Really sticking it to the Illinois Law Faculty Mafia and the Yale Law > Mafia—just two Gangs of Thugs who will be permanently conjoined with each > other on October 28. When the link is available I hope someone can send it > along to me so that I can post it to my Killer Koh List. It would have been > icing on the cake if Public I could have also squeezed in that iconic photo > of Clinton working her Blackberry on the government plane with Killer > Koh right behind her to her right. But that’s alright. We could have six > foot high blown up card board posters of the photo at our little reception > for Killer Koh—prima facie evidence of Killer Koh and Clinton committing > Conspiracy to Defraud the United States Government—a felony—on a US > government plane. What more could I want as a Prosecutor?* > > > > *Way to go Midge! Way to go Public I! Made my day!* > > *And will make my week at the Law School starting on Tuesday. I already > have 38 years of knives sticking out of my back over there. So they will > have a hard time finding space for another round of them.* > > > > *Fab* > > > > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 <217-333-7954> (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 <217-244-1478> (fax)* > > *(personal comments only*) > > > > *From:* Boyle, Francis A > *Sent:* Sunday, September 04, 2016 9:45 AM > *To:* Amanda Bass ; Karen Aram ; > C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; > Peace Discuss ; David Johnson < > davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>; Stuart Levy ; Karen > Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred > O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; > Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G < > galliher at illinois.edu>; Belden Fields ; > jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List < > vvawnet at prairienet.org>; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, > Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas < > jtmiller at illinois.edu>; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson < > davidcnswanson at gmail.com> > *Subject:* RE: Killing Kids at Yale Law Mafia School > > > > *It gave me an enormous amount of pleasure in early January 1977 to beat > the hell out of and stun into silence Yale Law Mafia Dean Gene Vietnam War > Rostow in the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Lounge at the Yale Law Mafia Law > School in front of the entire Yale Law Mafia Faculty, many of whom he had > hired—“Gene’s Kids.” The Yale Law Mafia were and still are just a Gang of > Thugs. Now ditto for the Illinois Law Faculty Mafia.* > > > > *Fab.* > > > > > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 <217-333-7954> (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 <217-244-1478> (fax)* > > *(personal comments only*) > > > > *From:* Boyle, Francis A > *Sent:* Sunday, September 04, 2016 5:36 AM > *To:* Amanda Bass ; Karen Aram ; > C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; > Peace Discuss ; David Johnson < > davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>; Stuart Levy ; Karen > Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred > O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; > Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G < > galliher at illinois.edu>; Belden Fields ; > jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List < > vvawnet at prairienet.org>; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, > Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas < > jtmiller at illinois.edu>; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com > *Subject:* Killing Kids at Yale Law Mafia School > > > > *The Yale Law Mafia School: From Dean Gene Vietnam War Rostow to Dean > Harold Killer Koh until today. Just a Gang of Thugs! Ditto for the > University of Illinois College of Law Faculty.* > > *fab* > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 <217-333-7954> (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 <217-244-1478> (fax)* > > *(personal comments only*) > > > > *Feed:* OpEdNews > *Posted on:* Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:40 AM > *Author:* OpEdNews > *Subject:* Killing Kids at Yale Law School > > > > Poetry by America's top fighter for international legal justice about > corruption in the legal profession. > > > View article... > > -- *David Swanson *is an author, activist, journalist, and radio host. He is director of WorldBeyondWar.org and campaign coordinator for RootsAction.org. Swanson's books include *War Is A Lie *. He blogs at DavidSwanson.org and WarIsACrime.org . He hosts Talk Nation Radio . He is a 2015 and 2016 Nobel Peace Prize Nominee. Follow him on Twitter: @davidcnswanson and FaceBook . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Sep 4 18:23:37 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 18:23:37 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] WOW! MIDGE! Killing Kids at Yale Law Mafia School In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have been told it will be forthcoming when the Public I can get to it. It is the Labor Day Holiday Weekend. Have a good one David and all my Fellow Union Brothers and Sisters. FAB Grandnephew of Umbrella Mike Boyle Founder of IBEW Local No 134 in Chicago. “…a leach on commerce…” US 7th Circuit Court of Appeals, in Boyle v. United States. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: David Swanson [mailto:davidcnswanson at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 1:17 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Amanda Bass ; Karen Aram ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Re: WOW! MIDGE! Killing Kids at Yale Law Mafia School got link? On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: I had to run an errand over on campus today and picked up the new Public I. WOW! Midge! What an article. You got everything in there. And I really like the Headline: “October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week.” Really sticking it to the Illinois Law Faculty Mafia and the Yale Law Mafia—just two Gangs of Thugs who will be permanently conjoined with each other on October 28. When the link is available I hope someone can send it along to me so that I can post it to my Killer Koh List. It would have been icing on the cake if Public I could have also squeezed in that iconic photo of Clinton working her Blackberry on the government plane with Killer Koh right behind her to her right. But that’s alright. We could have six foot high blown up card board posters of the photo at our little reception for Killer Koh—prima facie evidence of Killer Koh and Clinton committing Conspiracy to Defraud the United States Government—a felony—on a US government plane. What more could I want as a Prosecutor? Way to go Midge! Way to go Public I! Made my day! And will make my week at the Law School starting on Tuesday. I already have 38 years of knives sticking out of my back over there. So they will have a hard time finding space for another round of them. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 9:45 AM To: Amanda Bass >; Karen Aram >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson > Subject: RE: Killing Kids at Yale Law Mafia School It gave me an enormous amount of pleasure in early January 1977 to beat the hell out of and stun into silence Yale Law Mafia Dean Gene Vietnam War Rostow in the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Lounge at the Yale Law Mafia Law School in front of the entire Yale Law Mafia Faculty, many of whom he had hired—“Gene’s Kids.” The Yale Law Mafia were and still are just a Gang of Thugs. Now ditto for the Illinois Law Faculty Mafia. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 5:36 AM To: Amanda Bass >; Karen Aram >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com Subject: Killing Kids at Yale Law Mafia School The Yale Law Mafia School: From Dean Gene Vietnam War Rostow to Dean Harold Killer Koh until today. Just a Gang of Thugs! Ditto for the University of Illinois College of Law Faculty. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Feed: OpEdNews Posted on: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:40 AM Author: OpEdNews Subject: Killing Kids at Yale Law School Poetry by America's top fighter for international legal justice about corruption in the legal profession. View article... -- David Swanson is an author, activist, journalist, and radio host. He is director of WorldBeyondWar.org and campaign coordinator for RootsAction.org. Swanson's books include War Is A Lie. He blogs at DavidSwanson.org and WarIsACrime.org. He hosts Talk Nation Radio. He is a 2015 and 2016 Nobel Peace Prize Nominee. Follow him on Twitter: @davidcnswanson and FaceBook. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 16647 bytes Desc: image003.jpg URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Sep 5 01:30:53 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 01:30:53 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] September 2016 Issue Public I and "Killer Koh" article by Midge O'Brien In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: [http://publici.ucimc.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/PiMasthead1.jpeg] Skip to content * About Us * Contributors * Sustainers * In Print (Archives) * UC-IMC * Have a comment, tip, photo or story idea? ← Activists Among Us: Claire Szoke CU Schools Need to Work Harder to Involve African American Parents → October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week Posted on September 2016 by Midge O'Brien [th] Harold Hongju Koh Harold Hongju Koh, Hillary Clinton’s former legal advisor at the State Department has been invited as an ‘endowed speaker’ at the U.I. College of Law, twelve days prior to the November election. Koh, currently a Yale Law School professor and former Dean, is a close friend of Yale Law School graduates Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was appointed by President Bill Clinton as Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor; and by President Obama, as senior legal advisor to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: he provided legal advice to her during the 2009 coup in Honduras, the 2011 US/NATO attack on Libya, and Obama’s ongoing drone assassinations – as well as damage-control in her email controversy. He won’t say what that advice was, claiming “attorney-client privilege” – despite the Supreme Court ruling against attorney-client confidences between government lawyers and government officials. An avid advocate of the targeted killing program, “Killer Koh” supports the legality of what he terms “extrajudicial killing” in Pakistan, Yemen and other Middle Eastern countries in the US “war on terror,” saying it complies “with all applicable law, including the laws of war,” and citing the ‘principle of proportionality’ in “taking great care in planning and execution to ensure that only ‘legitimate’ objectives are targeted and that collateral damage is kept to a minimum.” In a feeble attempt at transparency, the Obama administration recently released a modest admission that some “116 civilians” may have been victims of U. S. drone attacks – a figure that is not reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, journalists and human rights researchers, who have documented many thousands of casualties. President Obama said – in a revealing moment of self-reflection – “Turns out I’m really good at killing people … Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” (from Mark Halperin & John Heilemann, “Double Down: Game Change 2012”). If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s. Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted “President’s Policy Guidance” (PPG) on Obama’s program of targeted killings. The PPG stipulates that “nothing in this PPG shall be construed to prevent the President from exercising his Constitutional authority … to authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, imminent threat to another country’s persons.” (Killing US citizens requires specific approval by the President). Death lists are drawn up weekly by the ‘nominating committee’ and are reviewed by lawyers of the nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, NSC, officials of the State Department and “deputies and principals of the nominating committee”). Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take place, “active war zones” – Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan (it’s not clear if Libya is included) – do not require prior approval. With this protocol in place, the White House and the National Security Council are insulated from outside scrutiny, even by Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief can do anything s/he wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with the approval of hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license to kill. Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended extrajudicial killing as “due process under the Constitution in the age of moral and political degeneration.” In a speech at the Oxford Political Union in 2013 he said, “This Administration has not done enough to be transparent about the legal standards and decision making process … fostering a growing perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is not lawful and necessary…,” adding that this lack of transparency is counterproductive and has led to the “negative public image” of targeted killing. Does Prof. Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) PPG ordered by the Court provides the “transparency” to satisfy critics of the legality of targeted killing? Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and civil rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an “equal opportunist” as a legal advisor to Reagan, Clinton and Obama administrations – all of whom have violated the human rights of foreign nationals. He hardly represented human and civil rights as a member of the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel to the President in the Reagan administration, when that office justified violations of international law, the Charter of United Nations and the US Constitution, in grievous violation of human rights and attempts to destabilize the countries of Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from the International Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing Nicaraguan harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern Africa; and when it supported the South African apartheid government against its black population, supported Israel’s invasion and massacres of Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories – for which the US exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to sanctions against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its legal advisors refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead proliferating first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI (“star wars”) and MX missiles. Not a record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of political and international law poses the question, Is the University of Illinois College of Law – with its record of sanctions – qualified to educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. Koh’s character in these politically charged times? The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of murder and other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied territories, were liable to severe penalty whether or not they had engaged in military action. The Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. A reception to protest Professor Koh’s appearance is planned at the north courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the afternoon of October 28. (Midge O’Brien was an academic professional in U. of I. life science laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of Professional Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member of Nuclear Freeze, and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an anti-war activist since 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Sep 5 01:42:01 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 01:42:01 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] September 2016 Issue Public I and "Killer Koh" article by Midge O'Brien In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for posting it Karen.My hearty congratulations to Midge for doing such a wonderful job. Everything is in there. Could not have asked for more. And my hearty thanks to all involved at Public I who helped make this possible. I still have time tomorrow to buy a bullet proof vest before I show up at the Illinois/Yale Mafia Law Faculty on Tuesday —Just a Gang of Thugs. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 8:31 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Amanda Bass ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson Subject: September 2016 Issue Public I and "Killer Koh" article by Midge O'Brien [http://publici.ucimc.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/PiMasthead1.jpeg] Skip to content · About Us · Contributors · Sustainers · In Print (Archives) · UC-IMC · Have a comment, tip, photo or story idea? ← Activists Among Us: Claire Szoke CU Schools Need to Work Harder to Involve African American Parents → October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week Posted on September 2016 by Midge O'Brien [th] Harold Hongju Koh Harold Hongju Koh, Hillary Clinton’s former legal advisor at the State Department has been invited as an ‘endowed speaker’ at the U.I. College of Law, twelve days prior to the November election. Koh, currently a Yale Law School professor and former Dean, is a close friend of Yale Law School graduates Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was appointed by President Bill Clinton as Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor; and by President Obama, as senior legal advisor to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: he provided legal advice to her during the 2009 coup in Honduras, the 2011 US/NATO attack on Libya, and Obama’s ongoing drone assassinations – as well as damage-control in her email controversy. He won’t say what that advice was, claiming “attorney-client privilege” – despite the Supreme Court ruling against attorney-client confidences between government lawyers and government officials. An avid advocate of the targeted killing program, “Killer Koh” supports the legality of what he terms “extrajudicial killing” in Pakistan, Yemen and other Middle Eastern countries in the US “war on terror,” saying it complies “with all applicable law, including the laws of war,” and citing the ‘principle of proportionality’ in “taking great care in planning and execution to ensure that only ‘legitimate’ objectives are targeted and that collateral damage is kept to a minimum.” In a feeble attempt at transparency, the Obama administration recently released a modest admission that some “116 civilians” may have been victims of U. S. drone attacks – a figure that is not reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, journalists and human rights researchers, who have documented many thousands of casualties. President Obama said – in a revealing moment of self-reflection – “Turns out I’m really good at killing people … Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” (from Mark Halperin & John Heilemann, “Double Down: Game Change 2012”). If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s. Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted “President’s Policy Guidance” (PPG) on Obama’s program of targeted killings. The PPG stipulates that “nothing in this PPG shall be construed to prevent the President from exercising his Constitutional authority … to authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, imminent threat to another country’s persons.” (Killing US citizens requires specific approval by the President). Death lists are drawn up weekly by the ‘nominating committee’ and are reviewed by lawyers of the nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, NSC, officials of the State Department and “deputies and principals of the nominating committee”). Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take place, “active war zones” – Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan (it’s not clear if Libya is included) – do not require prior approval. With this protocol in place, the White House and the National Security Council are insulated from outside scrutiny, even by Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief can do anything s/he wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with the approval of hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license to kill. Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended extrajudicial killing as “due process under the Constitution in the age of moral and political degeneration.” In a speech at the Oxford Political Union in 2013 he said, “This Administration has not done enough to be transparent about the legal standards and decision making process … fostering a growing perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is not lawful and necessary…,” adding that this lack of transparency is counterproductive and has led to the “negative public image” of targeted killing. Does Prof. Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) PPG ordered by the Court provides the “transparency” to satisfy critics of the legality of targeted killing? Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and civil rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an “equal opportunist” as a legal advisor to Reagan, Clinton and Obama administrations – all of whom have violated the human rights of foreign nationals. He hardly represented human and civil rights as a member of the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel to the President in the Reagan administration, when that office justified violations of international law, the Charter of United Nations and the US Constitution, in grievous violation of human rights and attempts to destabilize the countries of Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from the International Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing Nicaraguan harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern Africa; and when it supported the South African apartheid government against its black population, supported Israel’s invasion and massacres of Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories – for which the US exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to sanctions against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its legal advisors refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead proliferating first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI (“star wars”) and MX missiles. Not a record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of political and international law poses the question, Is the University of Illinois College of Law – with its record of sanctions – qualified to educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. Koh’s character in these politically charged times? The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of murder and other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied territories, were liable to severe penalty whether or not they had engaged in military action. The Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. A reception to protest Professor Koh’s appearance is planned at the north courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the afternoon of October 28. (Midge O’Brien was an academic professional in U. of I. life science laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of Professional Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member of Nuclear Freeze, and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an anti-war activist since 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Sep 5 01:48:55 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 01:48:55 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] September 2016 Issue Public I and "Killer Koh" article by Midge O'Brien In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Killer Koh and Killary—our Yale/Illinois Law Mafias in operation. Fab. [http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/03/hillary-clinton-sunglasses-blackberrry-Kevin-Lamarque-AP.jpg] Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 8:42 PM To: Karen Aram Cc: Amanda Bass ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson Subject: RE: September 2016 Issue Public I and "Killer Koh" article by Midge O'Brien Thanks for posting it Karen.My hearty congratulations to Midge for doing such a wonderful job. Everything is in there. Could not have asked for more. And my hearty thanks to all involved at Public I who helped make this possible. I still have time tomorrow to buy a bullet proof vest before I show up at the Illinois/Yale Mafia Law Faculty on Tuesday —Just a Gang of Thugs. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 8:31 PM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Amanda Bass >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson > Subject: September 2016 Issue Public I and "Killer Koh" article by Midge O'Brien [http://publici.ucimc.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/PiMasthead1.jpeg] Skip to content · About Us · Contributors · Sustainers · In Print (Archives) · UC-IMC · Have a comment, tip, photo or story idea? ← Activists Among Us: Claire Szoke CU Schools Need to Work Harder to Involve African American Parents → October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week Posted on September 2016 by Midge O'Brien [th] Harold Hongju Koh Harold Hongju Koh, Hillary Clinton’s former legal advisor at the State Department has been invited as an ‘endowed speaker’ at the U.I. College of Law, twelve days prior to the November election. Koh, currently a Yale Law School professor and former Dean, is a close friend of Yale Law School graduates Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was appointed by President Bill Clinton as Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor; and by President Obama, as senior legal advisor to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: he provided legal advice to her during the 2009 coup in Honduras, the 2011 US/NATO attack on Libya, and Obama’s ongoing drone assassinations – as well as damage-control in her email controversy. He won’t say what that advice was, claiming “attorney-client privilege” – despite the Supreme Court ruling against attorney-client confidences between government lawyers and government officials. An avid advocate of the targeted killing program, “Killer Koh” supports the legality of what he terms “extrajudicial killing” in Pakistan, Yemen and other Middle Eastern countries in the US “war on terror,” saying it complies “with all applicable law, including the laws of war,” and citing the ‘principle of proportionality’ in “taking great care in planning and execution to ensure that only ‘legitimate’ objectives are targeted and that collateral damage is kept to a minimum.” In a feeble attempt at transparency, the Obama administration recently released a modest admission that some “116 civilians” may have been victims of U. S. drone attacks – a figure that is not reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, journalists and human rights researchers, who have documented many thousands of casualties. President Obama said – in a revealing moment of self-reflection – “Turns out I’m really good at killing people … Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” (from Mark Halperin & John Heilemann, “Double Down: Game Change 2012”). If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s. Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted “President’s Policy Guidance” (PPG) on Obama’s program of targeted killings. The PPG stipulates that “nothing in this PPG shall be construed to prevent the President from exercising his Constitutional authority … to authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, imminent threat to another country’s persons.” (Killing US citizens requires specific approval by the President). Death lists are drawn up weekly by the ‘nominating committee’ and are reviewed by lawyers of the nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, NSC, officials of the State Department and “deputies and principals of the nominating committee”). Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take place, “active war zones” – Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan (it’s not clear if Libya is included) – do not require prior approval. With this protocol in place, the White House and the National Security Council are insulated from outside scrutiny, even by Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief can do anything s/he wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with the approval of hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license to kill. Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended extrajudicial killing as “due process under the Constitution in the age of moral and political degeneration.” In a speech at the Oxford Political Union in 2013 he said, “This Administration has not done enough to be transparent about the legal standards and decision making process … fostering a growing perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is not lawful and necessary…,” adding that this lack of transparency is counterproductive and has led to the “negative public image” of targeted killing. Does Prof. Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) PPG ordered by the Court provides the “transparency” to satisfy critics of the legality of targeted killing? Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and civil rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an “equal opportunist” as a legal advisor to Reagan, Clinton and Obama administrations – all of whom have violated the human rights of foreign nationals. He hardly represented human and civil rights as a member of the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel to the President in the Reagan administration, when that office justified violations of international law, the Charter of United Nations and the US Constitution, in grievous violation of human rights and attempts to destabilize the countries of Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from the International Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing Nicaraguan harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern Africa; and when it supported the South African apartheid government against its black population, supported Israel’s invasion and massacres of Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories – for which the US exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to sanctions against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its legal advisors refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead proliferating first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI (“star wars”) and MX missiles. Not a record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of political and international law poses the question, Is the University of Illinois College of Law – with its record of sanctions – qualified to educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. Koh’s character in these politically charged times? The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of murder and other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied territories, were liable to severe penalty whether or not they had engaged in military action. The Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. A reception to protest Professor Koh’s appearance is planned at the north courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the afternoon of October 28. (Midge O’Brien was an academic professional in U. of I. life science laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of Professional Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member of Nuclear Freeze, and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an anti-war activist since 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _____________________________________________ From: Koh, Harold [mailto:harold.koh at yale.edu] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 5:01 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: Read: FW: October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | Your message To: Subject: October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 5:01:21 PM (UTC-06:00) Central Time (US & Canada) was read on Monday, September 05, 2016 5:01:10 PM (UTC-06:00) Central Time (US & Canada). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Sep 5 22:14:29 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 22:14:29 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?iso-2022-jp?b?Rlc6ICBPY3RvYmVyIFN1cnByaXNlOiBI?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?YXJvbGQgGyRCIUgbKEJLaWxsZXIbJEIhSRsoQiBLb2ggdG8gTGVjdHVy?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?ZSBhdCBVSSBMYXcgU2Nob29sIGluIEVsZWN0aW9uIFdlZWsgfA==?= Message-ID: This is what I sent to Killer Koh-and hundreds of law professors, lawyers and human rights experts all over the world, as well as all over this Campus. It is important that they all know we are taking a Stand against him and the College of Law. Just a Gang of Thugs. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 7:47 AM To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' Subject: October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | Killary and Killer Koh. Fab. [http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/03/hillary-clinton-sunglasses-blackberrry-Kevin-Lamarque-AP.jpg] [http://publici.ucimc.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/PiMasthead1.jpeg] Skip to content § About Us § Contributors § Sustainers § In Print (Archives) § UC-IMC § Have a comment, tip, photo or story idea? ← Activists Among Us: Claire Szoke CU Schools Need to Work Harder to Involve African American Parents → October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week Posted on September 2016 by Midge O'Brien 0 Flares Filament.io Made with Flare More Info 0 Flares × [th] Harold Hongju Koh Harold Hongju Koh, Hillary Clinton’s former legal advisor at the State Department has been invited as an ‘endowed speaker’ at the U.I. College of Law, twelve days prior to the November election. Koh, currently a Yale Law School professor and former Dean, is a close friend of Yale Law School graduates Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was appointed by President Bill Clinton as Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor; and by President Obama, as senior legal advisor to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: he provided legal advice to her during the 2009 coup in Honduras, the 2011 US/NATO attack on Libya, and Obama’s ongoing drone assassinations - as well as damage-control in her email controversy. He won’t say what that advice was, claiming “attorney-client privilege” - despite the Supreme Court ruling against attorney-client confidences between government lawyers and government officials. An avid advocate of the targeted killing program, “Killer Koh” supports the legality of what he terms “extrajudicial killing” in Pakistan, Yemen and other Middle Eastern countries in the US “war on terror,” saying it complies “with all applicable law, including the laws of war,” and citing the ‘principle of proportionality’ in “taking great care in planning and execution to ensure that only ‘legitimate’ objectives are targeted and that collateral damage is kept to a minimum.” In a feeble attempt at transparency, the Obama administration recently released a modest admission that some “116 civilians” may have been victims of U. S. drone attacks - a figure that is not reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, journalists and human rights researchers, who have documented many thousands of casualties. President Obama said - in a revealing moment of self-reflection - “Turns out I’m really good at killing people … Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” (from Mark Halperin & John Heilemann, “Double Down: Game Change 2012”). If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s. Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted “President’s Policy Guidance” (PPG) on Obama’s program of targeted killings. The PPG stipulates that “nothing in this PPG shall be construed to prevent the President from exercising his Constitutional authority … to authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, imminent threat to another country’s persons.” (Killing US citizens requires specific approval by the President). Death lists are drawn up weekly by the ‘nominating committee’ and are reviewed by lawyers of the nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, NSC, officials of the State Department and “deputies and principals of the nominating committee”). Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take place, “active war zones” - Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan (it’s not clear if Libya is included) - do not require prior approval. With this protocol in place, the White House and the National Security Council are insulated from outside scrutiny, even by Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief can do anything s/he wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with the approval of hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license to kill. Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended extrajudicial killing as “due process under the Constitution in the age of moral and political degeneration.” In a speech at the Oxford Political Union in 2013 he said, “This Administration has not done enough to be transparent about the legal standards and decision making process … fostering a growing perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is not lawful and necessary…,” adding that this lack of transparency is counterproductive and has led to the “negative public image” of targeted killing. Does Prof. Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) PPG ordered by the Court provides the “transparency” to satisfy critics of the legality of targeted killing? Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and civil rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an “equal opportunist” as a legal advisor to Reagan, Clinton and Obama administrations - all of whom have violated the human rights of foreign nationals. He hardly represented human and civil rights as a member of the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel to the President in the Reagan administration, when that office justified violations of international law, the Charter of United Nations and the US Constitution, in grievous violation of human rights and attempts to destabilize the countries of Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from the International Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing Nicaraguan harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern Africa; and when it supported the South African apartheid government against its black population, supported Israel’s invasion and massacres of Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories - for which the US exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to sanctions against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its legal advisors refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead proliferating first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI (“star wars”) and MX missiles. Not a record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of political and international law poses the question, Is the University of Illinois College of Law - with its record of sanctions - qualified to educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. Koh’s character in these politically charged times? The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of murder and other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied territories, were liable to severe penalty whether or not they had engaged in military action. The Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. A reception to protest Professor Koh’s appearance is planned at the north courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the afternoon of October 28. (Midge O’Brien was an academic professional in U. of I. life science laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of Professional Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member of Nuclear Freeze, and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an anti-war activist since 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) This entry was posted in Human Rights, International, Justice. 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Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: outlook_1ac00f3818fbe52d at outlook.com [mailto:outlook_1ac00f3818fbe52d at outlook.com] On Behalf Of Francis Boyle Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 7:39 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | http://publici.ucimc.org/october-surprise-harold-killer-koh-to-lecture-at-ui-law-school-in-election-week/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 68188 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image004.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 49702 bytes Desc: image004.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We will circulate this among anti-war activists, pro-Palestinian groups, people active in opposing the coup in Honduras and others. I think a Facebook event to publicize the "reception for Killer Koh at 11:30 am on Friday, Oct. 28" would be another effective tool to get the word out in Chicago, if you have no objection. Of course, I have to consult with the World Can't Wait chapter first, and we have over a month. Please forward other materials you think would be helpful too. Thanks! Jay > Good to hear from you. Thanks. Our reception for Killer Koh begins > around > 1130 am in the North Courtyard of the Law Building Complex on Peabody > Drive. Be there or be square. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. 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S. drone attacks - a figure that is not > reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, journalists and human > rights researchers, who have documented many thousands of casualties. > President Obama said - in a revealing moment of self-reflection - > $B!H(BTurns out I$B!G(Bm really good at killing people $B!D(B > Didn$B!G(Bt know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine$B!I(B (from Mark Halperin & John Heilemann, $B!H(BDouble Down: > Game Change 2012$B!I(B). > If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine > and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her > predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of > Obama$B!G(Bs kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. > Bush$B!G(Bs. > Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an > Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted > $B!H(BPresident$B!G(Bs Policy Guidance$B!I(B (PPG) on > Obama$B!G(Bs program of targeted killings. The PPG stipulates that > $B!H(Bnothing in this PPG shall be construed to prevent the > President from exercising his Constitutional authority $B!D(B to > authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, > imminent threat to another country$B!G(Bs persons.$B!I(B (Killing > US citizens requires specific approval by the President). Death lists > are drawn up weekly by the $B!F(Bnominating committee$B!G(B and > are reviewed by lawyers of the nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, > NSC, officials of the State Department and $B!H(Bdeputies and principals of the nominating committee$B!I(B). > Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take > place, $B!H(Bactive war zones$B!I(B - Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan > (it$B!G(Bs not clear if Libya is included) - do not require prior > approval. With this protocol in place, the White House and the > National Security Council are insulated from outside scrutiny, even by > Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief can do anything s/he > wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with the approval of > hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license to kill. > Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended > extrajudicial killing as $B!H(Bdue process under the Constitution in > the age of moral and political degeneration.$B!I(B In a speech at > the Oxford Political Union in 2013 he said, $B!H(BThis > Administration has not done enough to be transparent about the legal > standards and decision making process $B!D(B fostering a growing > perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is not lawful and > necessary$B!D(B,$B!I(B adding that this lack of transparency is > counterproductive and has led to the $B!H(Bnegative public image$B!I(B of targeted killing. Does Prof. > Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) PPG ordered by > the Court provides the $B!H(Btransparency$B!I(B to satisfy critics > of the legality of targeted killing? > Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and > civil rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an > $B!H(Bequal opportunist$B!I(B as a legal advisor to Reagan, > Clinton and Obama administrations - all of whom have violated the > human rights of foreign nationals. He hardly represented human and > civil rights as a member of the Department of Justice$B!G(Bs Office > of Legal Counsel to the President in the Reagan administration, when > that office justified violations of international law, the Charter of > United Nations and the US Constitution, in grievous violation of human > rights and attempts to destabilize the countries of Grenada, El > Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from the International > Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing Nicaraguan > harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern Africa; > and when it supported the South African apartheid government against > its black population, supported Israel$B!G(Bs invasion and massacres > of Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli > settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories - for which the US > exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to > sanctions against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its > legal advisors refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead > proliferating first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI ($B!H(Bstar > wars$B!I(B) and MX missiles. Not a record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. > The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of > political and international law poses the question, Is the University > of Illinois College of Law - with its record of sanctions - qualified > to educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. > Koh$B!G(Bs character in these politically charged times? > The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the > crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of > murder and other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and > crimes against humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied > territories, were liable to severe penalty whether or not they had > engaged in military action. The Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. > A reception to protest Professor Koh$B!G(Bs appearance is planned at > the north courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the > afternoon of October 28. > (Midge O$B!G(BBrien was an academic professional in U. of I. life > science laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of > Professional Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member > of Nuclear Freeze, and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an > anti-war activist since 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) > This entry was posted in Human > Rights, > International >, Justice. 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Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: > outlook_1ac00f3818fbe52d at outlook.com utlook.com> [mailto:outlook_1ac00f3818fbe52d at outlook.com] On Behalf Of > Francis Boyle > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 7:39 AM > To: Boyle, Francis A > > Subject: October Surprise: Harold $B!H(BKiller$B!I(B Koh to > Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | > > http://publici.ucimc.org/october-surprise-harold-killer-koh-to-lecture > -at-ui-law-school-in-election-week/ > From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Sep 5 23:42:04 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 23:42:04 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: October Surprise: Harold References: Message-ID: And since I circulated our little package with the picture to hundreds of law profs I am sure we will be seeing yet another Petition in favor of Killer Koh by the same group of Law Prof Thugs who beat up on the courageous NYU Law Students including Amanda Bass above directed to our Yale Law Mafia Dean whose Yale Law Faculty Mafia Brother already signed that first Petition in favor of Yale Law Mafia Killer Koh beating up on the NYU Law Students. All Just a Gang of Thugs. They get no respect from me. A Gang of Law Professors beating up on a handful of law students with the courage,integrity and principles to say: Never again! We will give them all a run for their money! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 6:34 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; Amanda Bass ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson ; Karen Aram Subject: RE: FW: October Surprise: Harold I am adding Chicago World Can't Wait to my Killer Koh List. They have offered to help us out down here and I have worked with them up there and they do good work. I think their suggestion of Facebook on our Reception for Killer Koh is a good idea. Fab. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: chicago at worldcantwait.net [mailto:chicago at worldcantwait.net] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 5:51 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: Re: FW: October Surprise: Harold Thanks for the piece on Killer Koh, very helpful. We will circulate this among anti-war activists, pro-Palestinian groups, people active in opposing the coup in Honduras and others. I think a Facebook event to publicize the "reception for Killer Koh at 11:30 am on Friday, Oct. 28" would be another effective tool to get the word out in Chicago, if you have no objection. Of course, I have to consult with the World Can't Wait chapter first, and we have over a month. Please forward other materials you think would be helpful too. Thanks! Jay > Good to hear from you. Thanks. Our reception for Killer Koh begins > around > 1130 am in the North Courtyard of the Law Building Complex on Peabody > Drive. Be there or be square. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 7:47 AM > To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' > Subject: October Surprise: Harold $B!H(BKiller$B!I(B Koh to > Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | > > Killary and Killer Koh. Fab. > [http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/03/hillary-clinton-sunglasses-b > lackberrry-Kevin-Lamarque-AP.jpg] > > [http://publici.ucimc.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/PiMasthead1.jpeg] > Skip to > content -lecture-at-ui-law-school-in-election-week/#content> > $B!x(B About Us > $B!x(B Contributors > $B!x(B Sustainers > $B!x(B In Print (Archives) > $B!x(B UC-IMC > $B!x(B Have a comment, tip, photo or story > idea? > > $B"+(B Activists Among Us: Claire > Szoke > CU Schools Need to Work Harder to Involve African American Parents > $B"*(B volve-african-american-parents/> October Surprise: Harold > $B!H(BKiller$B!I(B Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election > Week Posted on September > 2016 cture-at-ui-law-school-in-election-week/> > by Midge O'Brien > 0 Flares Filament.io Made with Flare More > Info dium=deployment&utm_content=flarebar&utm_campaign=filament> > 0 Flares > $B!_(B o-lecture-at-ui-law-school-in-election-week/#close> > [th] > Harold Hongju Koh > Harold Hongju Koh, Hillary Clinton$B!G(Bs former legal advisor at > the State Department has been invited as an $B!F(Bendowed > speaker$B!G(B at the U.I. College of Law, twelve days prior to the November election. > Koh, currently a Yale Law School professor and former Dean, is a close > friend of Yale Law School graduates Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was > appointed by President Bill Clinton as Assistant Secretary of State > for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor; and by President Obama, as > senior legal advisor to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: he > provided legal advice to her during the 2009 coup in Honduras, the > 2011 US/NATO attack on Libya, and Obama$B!G(Bs ongoing drone > assassinations - as well as damage-control in her email controversy. > He won$B!G(Bt say what that advice was, claiming > $B!H(Battorney-client privilege$B!I(B - despite the Supreme Court > ruling against attorney-client confidences between government lawyers and government officials. > An avid advocate of the targeted killing program, $B!H(BKiller > Koh$B!I(B supports the legality of what he terms > $B!H(Bextrajudicial killing$B!I(B in Pakistan, Yemen and other > Middle Eastern countries in the US $B!H(Bwar on terror,$B!I(B > saying it complies $B!H(Bwith all applicable law, including the laws > of war,$B!I(B and citing the $B!F(Bprinciple of > proportionality$B!G(B in $B!H(Btaking great care in planning and > execution to ensure that only $B!F(Blegitimate$B!G(B objectives > are targeted and that collateral damage is kept to a minimum.$B!I(B > In a feeble attempt at transparency, the Obama administration recently > released a modest admission that some $B!H(B116 civilians$B!I(B > may have been victims of U. S. drone attacks - a figure that is not > reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, journalists and human > rights researchers, who have documented many thousands of casualties. > President Obama said - in a revealing moment of self-reflection - > $B!H(BTurns out I$B!G(Bm really good at killing people $B!D(B > Didn$B!G(Bt know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine$B!I(B (from Mark Halperin & John Heilemann, $B!H(BDouble Down: > Game Change 2012$B!I(B). > If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine > and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her > predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of > Obama$B!G(Bs kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. > Bush$B!G(Bs. > Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an > Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted > $B!H(BPresident$B!G(Bs Policy Guidance$B!I(B (PPG) on > Obama$B!G(Bs program of targeted killings. The PPG stipulates that > $B!H(Bnothing in this PPG shall be construed to prevent the > President from exercising his Constitutional authority $B!D(B to > authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, > imminent threat to another country$B!G(Bs persons.$B!I(B (Killing > US citizens requires specific approval by the President). Death lists > are drawn up weekly by the $B!F(Bnominating committee$B!G(B and > are reviewed by lawyers of the nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, > NSC, officials of the State Department and $B!H(Bdeputies and principals of the nominating committee$B!I(B). > Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take > place, $B!H(Bactive war zones$B!I(B - Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan > (it$B!G(Bs not clear if Libya is included) - do not require prior > approval. With this protocol in place, the White House and the > National Security Council are insulated from outside scrutiny, even by > Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief can do anything s/he > wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with the approval of > hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license to kill. > Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended > extrajudicial killing as $B!H(Bdue process under the Constitution in > the age of moral and political degeneration.$B!I(B In a speech at > the Oxford Political Union in 2013 he said, $B!H(BThis > Administration has not done enough to be transparent about the legal > standards and decision making process $B!D(B fostering a growing > perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is not lawful and > necessary$B!D(B,$B!I(B adding that this lack of transparency is > counterproductive and has led to the $B!H(Bnegative public image$B!I(B of targeted killing. Does Prof. > Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) PPG ordered by > the Court provides the $B!H(Btransparency$B!I(B to satisfy critics > of the legality of targeted killing? > Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and > civil rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an > $B!H(Bequal opportunist$B!I(B as a legal advisor to Reagan, > Clinton and Obama administrations - all of whom have violated the > human rights of foreign nationals. He hardly represented human and > civil rights as a member of the Department of Justice$B!G(Bs Office > of Legal Counsel to the President in the Reagan administration, when > that office justified violations of international law, the Charter of > United Nations and the US Constitution, in grievous violation of human > rights and attempts to destabilize the countries of Grenada, El > Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from the International > Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing Nicaraguan > harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern Africa; > and when it supported the South African apartheid government against > its black population, supported Israel$B!G(Bs invasion and massacres > of Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli > settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories - for which the US > exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to > sanctions against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its > legal advisors refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead > proliferating first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI ($B!H(Bstar > wars$B!I(B) and MX missiles. Not a record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. > The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of > political and international law poses the question, Is the University > of Illinois College of Law - with its record of sanctions - qualified > to educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. > Koh$B!G(Bs character in these politically charged times? > The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the > crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of > murder and other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and > crimes against humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied > territories, were liable to severe penalty whether or not they had > engaged in military action. The Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. > A reception to protest Professor Koh$B!G(Bs appearance is planned at > the north courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the > afternoon of October 28. > (Midge O$B!G(BBrien was an academic professional in U. of I. life > science laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of > Professional Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member > of Nuclear Freeze, and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an > anti-war activist since 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) > This entry was posted in Human > Rights, > International >, Justice. 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Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: > outlook_1ac00f3818fbe52d at outlook.com utlook.com> [mailto:outlook_1ac00f3818fbe52d at outlook.com] On Behalf Of > Francis Boyle > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 7:39 AM > To: Boyle, Francis A > > Subject: October Surprise: Harold $B!H(BKiller$B!I(B Koh to > Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | > > http://publici.ucimc.org/october-surprise-harold-killer-koh-to-lecture > -at-ui-law-school-in-election-week/ > From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Sep 5 23:54:02 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 23:54:02 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: News Alert: Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 In-Reply-To: <942977280.4918893.1473119019199.JavaMail.root@news.thehill.com> References: <942977280.4918893.1473119019199.JavaMail.root@news.thehill.com> Message-ID: As I told you back in the 1980s when we were trying to turn Urbana Into a Village of Refuge for Refugees fleeing Reagan’s Genocidal Wars in Central America, working against us and going door to door against us in Urbana were the American Nazi Party, the Ku Klux Klan, the Republican Party of Champaign County, and Schlafly and her Eagle Forum. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Sep 6 01:00:39 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 01:00:39 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] October Surprise: Harold In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fabulous idea. Welcome “chicago at worldcantwait.net. A Facebook Page is a good idea.., we can use all the help we can get. > On Sep 5, 2016, at 16:42, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > And since I circulated our little package with the picture to hundreds of law profs I am sure we will be seeing yet another Petition in favor of Killer Koh by the same group of Law Prof Thugs who beat up on the courageous NYU Law Students including Amanda Bass above directed to our Yale Law Mafia Dean whose Yale Law Faculty Mafia Brother already signed that first Petition in favor of Yale Law Mafia Killer Koh beating up on the NYU Law Students. All Just a Gang of Thugs. They get no respect from me. A Gang of Law Professors beating up on a handful of law students with the courage,integrity and principles to say: Never again! We will give them all a run for their money! > > Fab > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 6:34 PM > To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; Amanda Bass ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson ; Karen Aram > Subject: RE: FW: October Surprise: Harold > > I am adding Chicago World Can't Wait to my Killer Koh List. They have offered to help us out down here and I have worked with them up there and they do good work. I think their suggestion of Facebook on our Reception for Killer Koh is a good idea. Fab. > > Fab > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: chicago at worldcantwait.net [mailto:chicago at worldcantwait.net] > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 5:51 PM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Re: FW: October Surprise: Harold > > Thanks for the piece on Killer Koh, very helpful. We will circulate this among anti-war activists, pro-Palestinian groups, people active in opposing the coup in Honduras and others. I think a Facebook event to publicize the "reception for Killer Koh at 11:30 am on Friday, Oct. 28" > would be another effective tool to get the word out in Chicago, if you have no objection. Of course, I have to consult with the World Can't Wait chapter first, and we have over a month. > > Please forward other materials you think would be helpful too. > > Thanks! > > Jay > > >> Good to hear from you. Thanks. Our reception for Killer Koh begins >> around >> 1130 am in the North Courtyard of the Law Building Complex on Peabody >> Drive. Be there or be square. Fab. >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> Law Building >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> Champaign IL 61820 USA >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> (personal comments only) >> >> From: Boyle, Francis A >> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 7:47 AM >> To: 'SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org' >> Subject: October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to >> Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | >> >> Killary and Killer Koh. Fab. >> [http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/03/hillary-clinton-sunglasses-b >> lackberrry-Kevin-Lamarque-AP.jpg] >> >> [http://publici.ucimc.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/PiMasthead1.jpeg] >> Skip to >> content> -lecture-at-ui-law-school-in-election-week/#content> >> § About Us >> § Contributors >> § Sustainers >> § In Print (Archives) >> § UC-IMC >> § Have a comment, tip, photo or story >> idea?>> >> ← Activists Among Us: Claire >> Szoke >> CU Schools Need to Work Harder to Involve African American Parents >> →> volve-african-american-parents/> October Surprise: Harold >> “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election >> Week Posted on September >> 2016> cture-at-ui-law-school-in-election-week/> >> by Midge O'Brien >> 0 Flares Filament.io Made with Flare More >> Info> dium=deployment&utm_content=flarebar&utm_campaign=filament> >> 0 Flares >> ×> o-lecture-at-ui-law-school-in-election-week/#close> >> [th] >> Harold Hongju Koh >> Harold Hongju Koh, Hillary Clinton’s former legal advisor at >> the State Department has been invited as an ‘endowed >> speaker’ at the U.I. College of Law, twelve days prior to the November election. >> Koh, currently a Yale Law School professor and former Dean, is a close >> friend of Yale Law School graduates Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was >> appointed by President Bill Clinton as Assistant Secretary of State >> for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor; and by President Obama, as >> senior legal advisor to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: he >> provided legal advice to her during the 2009 coup in Honduras, the >> 2011 US/NATO attack on Libya, and Obama’s ongoing drone >> assassinations - as well as damage-control in her email controversy. >> He won’t say what that advice was, claiming >> “attorney-client privilege” - despite the Supreme Court >> ruling against attorney-client confidences between government lawyers and government officials. >> An avid advocate of the targeted killing program, “Killer >> Koh” supports the legality of what he terms >> “extrajudicial killing” in Pakistan, Yemen and other >> Middle Eastern countries in the US “war on terror,” >> saying it complies “with all applicable law, including the laws >> of war,” and citing the ‘principle of >> proportionality’ in “taking great care in planning and >> execution to ensure that only ‘legitimate’ objectives >> are targeted and that collateral damage is kept to a minimum.” >> In a feeble attempt at transparency, the Obama administration recently >> released a modest admission that some “116 civilians” >> may have been victims of U. S. drone attacks - a figure that is not >> reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, journalists and human >> rights researchers, who have documented many thousands of casualties. >> President Obama said - in a revealing moment of self-reflection - >> “Turns out I’m really good at killing people … >> Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” (from Mark Halperin & John Heilemann, “Double Down: >> Game Change 2012”). >> If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine >> and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her >> predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of >> Obama’s kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. >> Bush’s. >> Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an >> Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted >> “President’s Policy Guidance” (PPG) on >> Obama’s program of targeted killings. The PPG stipulates that >> “nothing in this PPG shall be construed to prevent the >> President from exercising his Constitutional authority … to >> authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, >> imminent threat to another country’s persons.” (Killing >> US citizens requires specific approval by the President). Death lists >> are drawn up weekly by the ‘nominating committee’ and >> are reviewed by lawyers of the nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, >> NSC, officials of the State Department and “deputies and principals of the nominating committee”). >> Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take >> place, “active war zones” - Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan >> (it’s not clear if Libya is included) - do not require prior >> approval. With this protocol in place, the White House and the >> National Security Council are insulated from outside scrutiny, even by >> Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief can do anything s/he >> wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with the approval of >> hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license to kill. >> Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended >> extrajudicial killing as “due process under the Constitution in >> the age of moral and political degeneration.” In a speech at >> the Oxford Political Union in 2013 he said, “This >> Administration has not done enough to be transparent about the legal >> standards and decision making process … fostering a growing >> perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is not lawful and >> necessary…,” adding that this lack of transparency is >> counterproductive and has led to the “negative public image” of targeted killing. Does Prof. >> Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) PPG ordered by >> the Court provides the “transparency” to satisfy critics >> of the legality of targeted killing? >> Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and >> civil rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an >> “equal opportunist” as a legal advisor to Reagan, >> Clinton and Obama administrations - all of whom have violated the >> human rights of foreign nationals. He hardly represented human and >> civil rights as a member of the Department of Justice’s Office >> of Legal Counsel to the President in the Reagan administration, when >> that office justified violations of international law, the Charter of >> United Nations and the US Constitution, in grievous violation of human >> rights and attempts to destabilize the countries of Grenada, El >> Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from the International >> Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing Nicaraguan >> harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern Africa; >> and when it supported the South African apartheid government against >> its black population, supported Israel’s invasion and massacres >> of Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli >> settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories - for which the US >> exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to >> sanctions against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its >> legal advisors refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead >> proliferating first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI (“star >> wars”) and MX missiles. Not a record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. >> The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of >> political and international law poses the question, Is the University >> of Illinois College of Law - with its record of sanctions - qualified >> to educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. >> Koh’s character in these politically charged times? >> The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the >> crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of >> murder and other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and >> crimes against humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied >> territories, were liable to severe penalty whether or not they had >> engaged in military action. The Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. >> A reception to protest Professor Koh’s appearance is planned at >> the north courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the >> afternoon of October 28. >> (Midge O’Brien was an academic professional in U. of I. life >> science laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of >> Professional Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member >> of Nuclear Freeze, and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an >> anti-war activist since 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) >> This entry was posted in Human >> Rights, >> International>> , Justice. 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Boyle >> Law Building >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> Champaign IL 61820 USA >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> (personal comments only) >> >> From: >> outlook_1ac00f3818fbe52d at outlook.com> utlook.com> [mailto:outlook_1ac00f3818fbe52d at outlook.com] On Behalf Of >> Francis Boyle >> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 7:39 AM >> To: Boyle, Francis A > >> Subject: October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to >> Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | >> >> http://publici.ucimc.org/october-surprise-harold-killer-koh-to-lecture >> -at-ui-law-school-in-election-week/ >> > > From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Sep 6 16:13:10 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 16:13:10 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" In-Reply-To: <94eb2c129a889d546a053bd8f87b@google.com> References: <94eb2c129a889d546a053bd8f87b@google.com> Message-ID: Way to go! No To Killer Koh! No to Yale Law Mafia! No to Illinois Law Mafia! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Google Alerts [mailto:googlealerts-noreply at google.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:06 AM To: Francis.A.Boyle at gmail.com Subject: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" [Google] "Killer Koh" As-it-happens update ⋅ September 6, 2016 WEB Reception to protest Professor Harold Hongju Killer Koh. Discover Events Happening in Your City Protesting the speaking invitation by the College of Law, University of Illinois, Champaign, Urbana, to Harold Killer Koh, an advocate of targeted killing. [Google Plus] [Facebook] [Twitter] Flag as irrelevant You have received this email because you have subscribed to Google Alerts. [RSS]Receive this alert as RSS feed Send Feedback -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From salevy at illinois.edu Tue Sep 6 19:14:19 2016 From: salevy at illinois.edu (Stuart Levy) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 14:14:19 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE and Oct 28 protest of Koh's appearance In-Reply-To: <81e882d666f07cbabe8f3a4fd84bbfac.squirrel@webmail.worldcantwait.org> References: <81e882d666f07cbabe8f3a4fd84bbfac.squirrel@webmail.worldcantwait.org> Message-ID: <9642c2f0-7485-afdf-d3a4-f34eb11a08b2@illinois.edu> Hello Jay! Yes AWARE is still here and I am still involved in it. Francis Boyle has indeed stirred us up! We're going to do *something* to protest Koh's appearance at the Law School here on Oct 28th, but I'm not sure how much has been planned. This may have been discussed at one or another recent meeting, and I've missed some of them, so am forwarding this to our peace-discuss mailing list. Midge O'Brien wrote an article about Koh in our local alternative publication, the public i - http://publici.ucimc.org/october-surprise-harold-killer-koh-to-lecture-at-ui-law-school-in-election-week/ Peaceable people, where do plans stand for objecting to Koh's presence? Is there something AWARE and World Can't Wait might do together? On 9/6/16 1:04 PM, chicago at worldcantwait.net wrote: > Hi, Stuart > > I'm writing on behalf of the Chicago chapter of World Can't Wait. We heard > that a protest will be happening in Champaign on Oct 28 when Harold Koh is > invited to speak at the law school there. I imagine you're aware (!) of > Koh's history as an "equal opportunist" war criminal for many > administrations, including esp the aid he gave to HRC as secretary of > state. > > Are you still involved with AWARE? Is AWARE working on this protest? Our > WCW chapter will be talking about this protest at our meeting next Monday, > and I'd appreciate any information and thoughts you'd care to share with > us. > > Thanks! > > Jay Becker > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Sep 6 19:20:55 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:20:55 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE and Oct 28 protest of Koh's appearance In-Reply-To: <9642c2f0-7485-afdf-d3a4-f34eb11a08b2@illinois.edu> References: <81e882d666f07cbabe8f3a4fd84bbfac.squirrel@webmail.worldcantwait.org> <9642c2f0-7485-afdf-d3a4-f34eb11a08b2@illinois.edu> Message-ID: We organized this protest against Meese and the Illinois Law Mafia back in 1987 over at the Krannert Center Greek Amphitheater. I suggest we do the same for Killer Koh and the Illinois/Yale Law Mafias on October 28 in front of the Illinois Law Mafia Building. Just Two Gangs of Thugs. Fab. Tuesday, September 06, 2016 Focus Politics The Northwestern Law: Give him an offer he can’t refuse! The Northwestern Law: Give him an offer he can’t refuse! | Print | E-mail Monday, 12 March 2012 11:54 [http://mwcnews.net/images/comprofiler/tn582_4bb792b2294ad.jpg] By Francis Boyle Comments [Reagan’s Attorney General Edmund Meese]Illinois Law: Boyle, a specialist in international law, said Meese should be allowed to speak, but not as the university's guest to honor the Constitution. Back in early 1987 the ex-Dean of the University of Illinois College of Law (we later got canned—note that Dean Rodriguez) publicly announced that the Keynote Speaker at our Campus Celebration of the 200th anniversary of the United States Constitution would be Reagan’s Attorney General Edmund Meese in order “to honor” the Constitution. As I immediately told the news media at that time, this would be like asking Attila the Hun to speak “in honor” of Virginity. Meese repeatedly raped the Constitution for Reagan. So we immediately organized a Citizen’s Protest right outside where Meese was speaking entitled “We The People.” The University Administration threatened to shut us down. I drafted both Federal and State TROs to stop it, coordinated them with a US Federal Judge and a State Judge beforehand, and then informed the University General Counsel that we would seek immediate TROs to stop them from shutting us down. The University Police told us that if Meese’s Secret Service (SS) entourage told them to shoot us, they would shoot us. We went on with our event anyway. The figure was a lot more than the 200 listed below—always an undercount by the MSM. The Street was overflowing with Protestors. And for speakers we brought in Representatives of all of the Poor, the Oppressed and the Downtrodden who had been persecuted by Reagan and Meese et al. That is Illinois Law for you! And what did the Northwestern Law Faculty do when it was announced several days beforehand that Holder was going to desecrate, defile and debase the Constitution and use their Law School as a Prop to do so by justifying the murder of United States Citizens? Zip. Zero. Nothing. Nada. Diddly-squat. The gutless wonders of the Northwestern Law Faculty stood by and watched Holder rape the Constitution and Northwestern Law School in their presence. They have no Guts and no Principles. Northwestern Law School died that day. And what is the difference between Holder/Obama and Meese/Reagan? Even Meese/Reagan never claimed any bogus “right” to murder U.S. Citizens for any reason, and to the best of my knowledge they did not murder U.S. Citizens—though they murdered a lot of foreigners. Whereas Holder/Obama have now murdered at least 3 U.S. Citizens that we are aware of—and counting. From the perspective of the US Constitution, Holder/Obama are far worse and more dangerous than Meese/Reagan. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Levy, Stuart A Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 2:14 PM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Peace Discuss Cc: Boyle, Francis A Subject: Re: AWARE and Oct 28 protest of Koh's appearance Hello Jay! Yes AWARE is still here and I am still involved in it. Francis Boyle has indeed stirred us up! We're going to do *something* to protest Koh's appearance at the Law School here on Oct 28th, but I'm not sure how much has been planned. This may have been discussed at one or another recent meeting, and I've missed some of them, so am forwarding this to our peace-discuss mailing list. Midge O'Brien wrote an article about Koh in our local alternative publication, the public i - http://publici.ucimc.org/october-surprise-harold-killer-koh-to-lecture-at-ui-law-school-in-election-week/ Peaceable people, where do plans stand for objecting to Koh's presence? Is there something AWARE and World Can't Wait might do together? On 9/6/16 1:04 PM, chicago at worldcantwait.net wrote: Hi, Stuart I'm writing on behalf of the Chicago chapter of World Can't Wait. We heard that a protest will be happening in Champaign on Oct 28 when Harold Koh is invited to speak at the law school there. I imagine you're aware (!) of Koh's history as an "equal opportunist" war criminal for many administrations, including esp the aid he gave to HRC as secretary of state. Are you still involved with AWARE? Is AWARE working on this protest? Our WCW chapter will be talking about this protest at our meeting next Monday, and I'd appreciate any information and thoughts you'd care to share with us. Thanks! Jay Becker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If Stuart gets involved, as he did promise, that would be great because he knows a lot of people and groups. Stuart also possesses the technical skills that I lack. Midge’s article has really stirred things up, along with Prof. Boyles articles and as a result we may have a movement that can really ignite interest in justice against war and war criminals. What we have so far is: a) two speakers: Prof. Boyle, Carl Estabrook b) Paul Mueth will film, and is looking into the acquisition of megaphones and a sound system. c) I did circulate an "event page" by way of FB, however if someone wants to do a full FB webpage for the event that would be awesome. d) A couple students plan to attend and “ask questions” I’m still working on acquiring signs that say more than “stop the killing”, pictures of children killed by the bombs and drones that Koh supports would be good. Thats where we are so far. I hope someone is willing to take over my efforts and ensure that we provide the reception befitting this Killer, not the one he is expecting from the COL. I would also like to link up AWARE’s efforts with other groups in the area in an effort to further raise awareness of the US killings and destruction. On Sep 6, 2016, at 12:20, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: We organized this protest against Meese and the Illinois Law Mafia back in 1987 over at the Krannert Center Greek Amphitheater. I suggest we do the same for Killer Koh and the Illinois/Yale Law Mafias on October 28 in front of the Illinois Law Mafia Building. Just Two Gangs of Thugs. Fab. Tuesday, September 06, 2016 Focus Politics The Northwestern Law: Give him an offer he can’t refuse! The Northwestern Law: Give him an offer he can’t refuse! | Print | E-mail Monday, 12 March 2012 11:54 By Francis Boyle Comments Illinois Law: Boyle, a specialist in international law, said Meese should be allowed to speak, but not as the university's guest to honor the Constitution. Back in early 1987 the ex-Dean of the University of Illinois College of Law (we later got canned—note that Dean Rodriguez) publicly announced that the Keynote Speaker at our Campus Celebration of the 200th anniversary of the United States Constitution would be Reagan’s Attorney General Edmund Meese in order “to honor” the Constitution. As I immediately told the news media at that time, this would be like asking Attila the Hun to speak “in honor” of Virginity. Meese repeatedly raped the Constitution for Reagan. So we immediately organized a Citizen’s Protest right outside where Meese was speaking entitled “We The People.” The University Administration threatened to shut us down. I drafted both Federal and State TROs to stop it, coordinated them with a US Federal Judge and a State Judge beforehand, and then informed the University General Counsel that we would seek immediate TROs to stop them from shutting us down. The University Police told us that if Meese’s Secret Service (SS) entourage told them to shoot us, they would shoot us. We went on with our event anyway. The figure was a lot more than the 200 listed below—always an undercount by the MSM. The Street was overflowing with Protestors. And for speakers we brought in Representatives of all of the Poor, the Oppressed and the Downtrodden who had been persecuted by Reagan and Meese et al. That is Illinois Law for you! And what did the Northwestern Law Faculty do when it was announced several days beforehand that Holder was going to desecrate, defile and debase the Constitution and use their Law School as a Prop to do so by justifying the murder of United States Citizens? Zip. Zero. Nothing. Nada. Diddly-squat. The gutless wonders of the Northwestern Law Faculty stood by and watched Holder rape the Constitution and Northwestern Law School in their presence. They have no Guts and no Principles. Northwestern Law School died that day. And what is the difference between Holder/Obama and Meese/Reagan? Even Meese/Reagan never claimed any bogus “right” to murder U.S. Citizens for any reason, and to the best of my knowledge they did not murder U.S. Citizens—though they murdered a lot of foreigners. Whereas Holder/Obama have now murdered at least 3 U.S. Citizens that we are aware of—and counting. From the perspective of the US Constitution, Holder/Obama are far worse and more dangerous than Meese/Reagan. The Northwestern Law Faculty are no longer fit to educate Lawyers, Members of the Bar, and Officers of the Court. RIP: Northwestern Law School (died 2012) ________________________________ View the discussion thread. blog comments powered by Disqus back to top Subscribe via RSS or Email: Top of Form Bottom of Form < Prev Next > Most Read Articles Abbas Police as Israel's Hitman? Turkey’s Travails: Purges Worsen Ankara’s Democracy Deficit Trumpean dream team How it became offensive for women to wear too much clothing Avnery: Civil War Most Read News Philippines seeks drug tests for college students Samsung halts Galaxy Note 7 sales over battery problem Syria: Turkish-backed rebels seize more ISIL territory Germany: AfD 'beats' Angela Merkel party in state vote France to dismantle remaining Calais jungle 'in one go' Deadly blast strikes market in Philippines' Davao city Donation Thanks to all of our supporters for your generosity and your encouragement of an independent press! Top of Form Enter Amount: $ Bottom of Form ads Related The Mass Rape of the Bosnian Women Was Genocide! 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[x] close AddThis Sharing Sidebar SHARE Share to Facebook , Number of shares Share to TwitterShare to LinkedIn , Number of shares Share to Google+More AddThis Share options , Number of shares Hide Show Close AddThis Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Levy, Stuart A Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 2:14 PM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Peace Discuss > Cc: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Re: AWARE and Oct 28 protest of Koh's appearance Hello Jay! Yes AWARE is still here and I am still involved in it. Francis Boyle has indeed stirred us up! We're going to do *something* to protest Koh's appearance at the Law School here on Oct 28th, but I'm not sure how much has been planned. This may have been discussed at one or another recent meeting, and I've missed some of them, so am forwarding this to our peace-discuss mailing list. Midge O'Brien wrote an article about Koh in our local alternative publication, the public i - http://publici.ucimc.org/october-surprise-harold-killer-koh-to-lecture-at-ui-law-school-in-election-week/ Peaceable people, where do plans stand for objecting to Koh's presence? Is there something AWARE and World Can't Wait might do together? On 9/6/16 1:04 PM, chicago at worldcantwait.net wrote: Hi, Stuart I'm writing on behalf of the Chicago chapter of World Can't Wait. We heard that a protest will be happening in Champaign on Oct 28 when Harold Koh is invited to speak at the law school there. I imagine you're aware (!) of Koh's history as an "equal opportunist" war criminal for many administrations, including esp the aid he gave to HRC as secretary of state. Are you still involved with AWARE? Is AWARE working on this protest? Our WCW chapter will be talking about this protest at our meeting next Monday, and I'd appreciate any information and thoughts you'd care to share with us. Thanks! Jay Becker _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Sep 6 19:55:23 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:55:23 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE and Oct 28 protest of Koh's appearance In-Reply-To: References: <81e882d666f07cbabe8f3a4fd84bbfac.squirrel@webmail.worldcantwait.org> <9642c2f0-7485-afdf-d3a4-f34eb11a08b2@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Thanks Karen. If I remember correctly, it took us from late-January to mid-March 1987 to organize our protest against Meese and the Illinois Law Mafia at the Krannert Center while they were all inside. But that was before the days of Email and Social Media. So I submit we have enough time to organize a fitting “reception” against Killer Koh and the Illinois/Yale Law Mafias on October 28 while they are all inside the Illinois Law Mafia Building. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 2:51 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Levy, Stuart A ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Peace Discuss Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] AWARE and Oct 28 protest of Koh's appearance I have been organizing and planning it, and have a few people planning to attend. If Stuart gets involved, as he did promise, that would be great because he knows a lot of people and groups. Stuart also possesses the technical skills that I lack. Midge’s article has really stirred things up, along with Prof. Boyles articles and as a result we may have a movement that can really ignite interest in justice against war and war criminals. What we have so far is: a) two speakers: Prof. Boyle, Carl Estabrook b) Paul Mueth will film, and is looking into the acquisition of megaphones and a sound system. c) I did circulate an "event page" by way of FB, however if someone wants to do a full FB webpage for the event that would be awesome. d) A couple students plan to attend and “ask questions” I’m still working on acquiring signs that say more than “stop the killing”, pictures of children killed by the bombs and drones that Koh supports would be good. Thats where we are so far. I hope someone is willing to take over my efforts and ensure that we provide the reception befitting this Killer, not the one he is expecting from the COL. I would also like to link up AWARE’s efforts with other groups in the area in an effort to further raise awareness of the US killings and destruction. On Sep 6, 2016, at 12:20, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: We organized this protest against Meese and the Illinois Law Mafia back in 1987 over at the Krannert Center Greek Amphitheater. I suggest we do the same for Killer Koh and the Illinois/Yale Law Mafias on October 28 in front of the Illinois Law Mafia Building. Just Two Gangs of Thugs. Fab. Tuesday, September 06, 2016 Focus Politics The Northwestern Law: Give him an offer he can’t refuse! The Northwestern Law: Give him an offer he can’t refuse! | Print | E-mail Monday, 12 March 2012 11:54 By Francis Boyle Comments Illinois Law: Boyle, a specialist in international law, said Meese should be allowed to speak, but not as the university's guest to honor the Constitution. Back in early 1987 the ex-Dean of the University of Illinois College of Law (we later got canned—note that Dean Rodriguez) publicly announced that the Keynote Speaker at our Campus Celebration of the 200th anniversary of the United States Constitution would be Reagan’s Attorney General Edmund Meese in order “to honor” the Constitution. As I immediately told the news media at that time, this would be like asking Attila the Hun to speak “in honor” of Virginity. Meese repeatedly raped the Constitution for Reagan. So we immediately organized a Citizen’s Protest right outside where Meese was speaking entitled “We The People.” The University Administration threatened to shut us down. I drafted both Federal and State TROs to stop it, coordinated them with a US Federal Judge and a State Judge beforehand, and then informed the University General Counsel that we would seek immediate TROs to stop them from shutting us down. The University Police told us that if Meese’s Secret Service (SS) entourage told them to shoot us, they would shoot us. We went on with our event anyway. The figure was a lot more than the 200 listed below—always an undercount by the MSM. The Street was overflowing with Protestors. And for speakers we brought in Representatives of all of the Poor, the Oppressed and the Downtrodden who had been persecuted by Reagan and Meese et al. That is Illinois Law for you! And what did the Northwestern Law Faculty do when it was announced several days beforehand that Holder was going to desecrate, defile and debase the Constitution and use their Law School as a Prop to do so by justifying the murder of United States Citizens? Zip. Zero. Nothing. Nada. Diddly-squat. The gutless wonders of the Northwestern Law Faculty stood by and watched Holder rape the Constitution and Northwestern Law School in their presence. They have no Guts and no Principles. Northwestern Law School died that day. And what is the difference between Holder/Obama and Meese/Reagan? Even Meese/Reagan never claimed any bogus “right” to murder U.S. Citizens for any reason, and to the best of my knowledge they did not murder U.S. Citizens—though they murdered a lot of foreigners. Whereas Holder/Obama have now murdered at least 3 U.S. Citizens that we are aware of—and counting. From the perspective of the US Constitution, Holder/Obama are far worse and more dangerous than Meese/Reagan. The Northwestern Law Faculty are no longer fit to educate Lawyers, Members of the Bar, and Officers of the Court. RIP: Northwestern Law School (died 2012) ________________________________ View the discussion thread. blog comments powered by Disqus back to top Subscribe via RSS or Email: Top of Form Bottom of Form < Prev Next > Most Read Articles Abbas Police as Israel's Hitman? 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[x] close AddThis Sharing Sidebar SHARE Share to Facebook , Number of shares Share to TwitterShare to LinkedIn , Number of shares Share to Google+More AddThis Share options , Number of shares Hide Show Close AddThis Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Levy, Stuart A Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 2:14 PM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Peace Discuss > Cc: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Re: AWARE and Oct 28 protest of Koh's appearance Hello Jay! Yes AWARE is still here and I am still involved in it. Francis Boyle has indeed stirred us up! We're going to do *something* to protest Koh's appearance at the Law School here on Oct 28th, but I'm not sure how much has been planned. This may have been discussed at one or another recent meeting, and I've missed some of them, so am forwarding this to our peace-discuss mailing list. Midge O'Brien wrote an article about Koh in our local alternative publication, the public i - http://publici.ucimc.org/october-surprise-harold-killer-koh-to-lecture-at-ui-law-school-in-election-week/ Peaceable people, where do plans stand for objecting to Koh's presence? Is there something AWARE and World Can't Wait might do together? On 9/6/16 1:04 PM, chicago at worldcantwait.net wrote: Hi, Stuart I'm writing on behalf of the Chicago chapter of World Can't Wait. We heard that a protest will be happening in Champaign on Oct 28 when Harold Koh is invited to speak at the law school there. I imagine you're aware (!) of Koh's history as an "equal opportunist" war criminal for many administrations, including esp the aid he gave to HRC as secretary of state. Are you still involved with AWARE? Is AWARE working on this protest? Our WCW chapter will be talking about this protest at our meeting next Monday, and I'd appreciate any information and thoughts you'd care to share with us. Thanks! Jay Becker _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Sep 7 12:36:26 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:36:26 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Google Alert - "Killer Koh" In-Reply-To: References: <94eb2c129a889d546a053bd8f87b@google.com> Message-ID: I will be there for sure in the North Courtyard of the Illinois Mafia Law Building on Peabody Drive just across from the Krannert Art Museum on Friday, October 28 just before Noon in order to denounce Killer Koh and the Illinois Mafia Law Faculty for inviting him. Be there or be square! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:13 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson ; Karen Aram Subject: FW: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Way to go! No To Killer Koh! No to Yale Law Mafia! No to Illinois Law Mafia! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Google Alerts [mailto:googlealerts-noreply at google.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:06 AM To: Francis.A.Boyle at gmail.com Subject: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" [Google] "Killer Koh" As-it-happens update ⋅ September 6, 2016 WEB Reception to protest Professor Harold Hongju Killer Koh. Discover Events Happening in Your City Protesting the speaking invitation by the College of Law, University of Illinois, Champaign, Urbana, to Harold Killer Koh, an advocate of targeted killing. [Google Plus] [Facebook] [Twitter] Flag as irrelevant You have received this email because you have subscribed to Google Alerts. [RSS]Receive this alert as RSS feed Send Feedback -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Sep 7 13:24:47 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:24:47 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Google Alert - "Killer Koh" In-Reply-To: References: <94eb2c129a889d546a053bd8f87b@google.com> Message-ID: And I notice that October 28-29 will be Homecoming for the University of Illinois. That’s just great! What more could we ask for? All the Illinois Law Mafia Alumni/ae Big Wigs will be there for Killer Koh’s Lecture and Reception. We will let the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias know that this STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN! WE THE PEOPLE will teach the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias assembled there what THE LAW is supposed to be all about: “We the People of the United States…do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” Be there or be square! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:36 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson ; Karen Aram Subject: RE: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" I will be there for sure in the North Courtyard of the Illinois Mafia Law Building on Peabody Drive just across from the Krannert Art Museum on Friday, October 28 just before Noon in order to denounce Killer Koh and the Illinois Mafia Law Faculty for inviting him. Be there or be square! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:13 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson >; Karen Aram > Subject: FW: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Way to go! No To Killer Koh! No to Yale Law Mafia! No to Illinois Law Mafia! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Google Alerts [mailto:googlealerts-noreply at google.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:06 AM To: Francis.A.Boyle at gmail.com Subject: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" [Google] "Killer Koh" As-it-happens update ⋅ September 6, 2016 WEB Reception to protest Professor Harold Hongju Killer Koh. Discover Events Happening in Your City Protesting the speaking invitation by the College of Law, University of Illinois, Champaign, Urbana, to Harold Killer Koh, an advocate of targeted killing. [Google Plus] [Facebook] [Twitter] Flag as irrelevant You have received this email because you have subscribed to Google Alerts. [RSS]Receive this alert as RSS feed Send Feedback -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 7 13:30:45 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1042198869.245943.1473255045730@mail.yahoo.com> Without 9/11 there would be no Killer Koh drones,Just as there would have been no D-Day without Pearl Harbor. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:25 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" (Boyle, Francis A) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:24:47 +0000 From: "Boyle, Francis A" To: "'chicago at worldcantwait.net'" ,     "'Amanda Bass'" , "'C. G. Estabrook'"     , "'C. G. Estabrook'" ,     "'Peace Discuss'" , "'David Johnson'"     , "'Stuart Levy'"     , "'Karen Medina'" ,     "Szoke, Ron" , "'Mildred O'brien'"     , "'peace at lists.chambana.net'"     , "'davegreen84 at yahoo.com'"     , "Readel, Karin" ,     "Estabrook, Carl G" , "'Belden Fields'"     , "'jmachota at shout.net'" ,     "'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List'"     , "'Bryan Savage'" ,     "Hoffman, Valerie J" , "Miller, Joseph Thomas"     , "'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com'"     , "'David Swanson'"     , "'Karen Aram'" Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" And I notice that October 28-29 will be Homecoming for the University of Illinois. That’s just great! What more could we ask for? All the Illinois Law Mafia Alumni/ae Big Wigs will be there for Killer Koh’s Lecture and Reception. We will let the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias know that this STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN! WE THE PEOPLE will teach the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias assembled there what THE LAW is supposed to be all about: “We the People of the United States…do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” Be there or be square! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:36 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson ; Karen Aram Subject: RE: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" I will be there for sure in the North Courtyard of the Illinois Mafia Law Building on Peabody Drive just across from the Krannert Art Museum on Friday, October 28 just before Noon in order to denounce Killer Koh and the Illinois Mafia Law Faculty for inviting him. Be there or be square! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:13 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson >; Karen Aram > Subject: FW: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Way to go! No To Killer Koh! No to Yale Law Mafia! No to Illinois Law Mafia! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Google Alerts [mailto:googlealerts-noreply at google.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:06 AM To: Francis.A.Boyle at gmail.com Subject: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" [Google] "Killer Koh" As-it-happens update ⋅ September 6, 2016 WEB Reception to protest Professor Harold Hongju Killer Koh. Discover Events Happening in Your City Protesting the speaking invitation by the College of Law, University of Illinois, Champaign, Urbana, to Harold Killer Koh, an advocate of targeted killing. [Google Plus] [Facebook] [Twitter] Flag as irrelevant You have received this email because you have subscribed to Google Alerts. [RSS]Receive this alert as RSS feed Send Feedback -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But maybe we could consider calling our Reception/Protest against Killer Koh: “TAKING BACK THE CONSTITUTION!” Taking OUR Constitution out of the hands of these rotten, corrupt, despicable Illinois/Yale Legal Mafia Elite Thugs and putting it back into the hands of WE THE PEOPLE! Be there or be square! FAB Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 8:25 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" And I notice that October 28-29 will be Homecoming for the University of Illinois. That’s just great! What more could we ask for? All the Illinois Law Mafia Alumni/ae Big Wigs will be there for Killer Koh’s Lecture and Reception. We will let the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias know that this STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN! WE THE PEOPLE will teach the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias assembled there what THE LAW is supposed to be all about: “We the People of the United States…do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” Be there or be square! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:36 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson >; Karen Aram > Subject: RE: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" I will be there for sure in the North Courtyard of the Illinois Mafia Law Building on Peabody Drive just across from the Krannert Art Museum on Friday, October 28 just before Noon in order to denounce Killer Koh and the Illinois Mafia Law Faculty for inviting him. Be there or be square! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:13 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson >; Karen Aram > Subject: FW: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Way to go! No To Killer Koh! No to Yale Law Mafia! No to Illinois Law Mafia! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Google Alerts [mailto:googlealerts-noreply at google.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:06 AM To: Francis.A.Boyle at gmail.com Subject: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" [Google] "Killer Koh" As-it-happens update ⋅ September 6, 2016 WEB Reception to protest Professor Harold Hongju Killer Koh. Discover Events Happening in Your City Protesting the speaking invitation by the College of Law, University of Illinois, Champaign, Urbana, to Harold Killer Koh, an advocate of targeted killing. [Google Plus] [Facebook] [Twitter] Flag as irrelevant You have received this email because you have subscribed to Google Alerts. [RSS]Receive this alert as RSS feed Send Feedback -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 7 13:42:56 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 In-Reply-To: <1042198869.245943.1473255045730@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1042198869.245943.1473255045730@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <377518263.299673.1473255776288@mail.yahoo.com> Without 9/11 there would be no Killer Koh drones,Just as there would have been no D-Day without Pearl Harbor. Might I add that all wars including WWI, WWII, Iraq and Afghanistan were cooked-up, unnecessary and criminal.Just as it has been well established that the 19 hijackers could not have done 9/11, there are mountains of evidence that the attack on Pearl Harbor was known about far in advance, and was allowed to occur. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:30 AM, Stephen Francis wrote: Without 9/11 there would be no Killer Koh drones,Just as there would have been no D-Day without Pearl Harbor. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:25 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" (Boyle, Francis A) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:24:47 +0000 From: "Boyle, Francis A" To: "'chicago at worldcantwait.net'" ,     "'Amanda Bass'" , "'C. G. Estabrook'"     , "'C. G. Estabrook'" ,     "'Peace Discuss'" , "'David Johnson'"     , "'Stuart Levy'"     , "'Karen Medina'" ,     "Szoke, Ron" , "'Mildred O'brien'"     , "'peace at lists.chambana.net'"     , "'davegreen84 at yahoo.com'"     , "Readel, Karin" ,     "Estabrook, Carl G" , "'Belden Fields'"     , "'jmachota at shout.net'" ,     "'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List'"     , "'Bryan Savage'" ,     "Hoffman, Valerie J" , "Miller, Joseph Thomas"     , "'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com'"     , "'David Swanson'"     , "'Karen Aram'" Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" And I notice that October 28-29 will be Homecoming for the University of Illinois. That’s just great! What more could we ask for? All the Illinois Law Mafia Alumni/ae Big Wigs will be there for Killer Koh’s Lecture and Reception. We will let the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias know that this STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN! WE THE PEOPLE will teach the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias assembled there what THE LAW is supposed to be all about: “We the People of the United States…do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” Be there or be square! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:36 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson ; Karen Aram Subject: RE: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" I will be there for sure in the North Courtyard of the Illinois Mafia Law Building on Peabody Drive just across from the Krannert Art Museum on Friday, October 28 just before Noon in order to denounce Killer Koh and the Illinois Mafia Law Faculty for inviting him. Be there or be square! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:13 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson >; Karen Aram > Subject: FW: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Way to go! No To Killer Koh! No to Yale Law Mafia! No to Illinois Law Mafia! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Google Alerts [mailto:googlealerts-noreply at google.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:06 AM To: Francis.A.Boyle at gmail.com Subject: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" [Google] "Killer Koh" As-it-happens update ⋅ September 6, 2016 WEB Reception to protest Professor Harold Hongju Killer Koh. Discover Events Happening in Your City Protesting the speaking invitation by the College of Law, University of Illinois, Champaign, Urbana, to Harold Killer Koh, an advocate of targeted killing. [Google Plus] [Facebook] [Twitter] Flag as irrelevant You have received this email because you have subscribed to Google Alerts. [RSS]Receive this alert as RSS feed Send Feedback -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss ------------------------------ End of Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 ********************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 7 14:34:31 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 14:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 In-Reply-To: References: <1042198869.245943.1473255045730@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1554926600.300146.1473258871674@mail.yahoo.com> You again confirm my assertion that AWARE is basically a pro-Israeli/Zionist and 'establishment' organization that supports the official views of the major world events. Will anyone come forward and admit they question the conclusions of the Warren Commission. No. Not because they have don't have doubts about it, but rather they can't because it would open the door to real investigation of government/Israeli complicity in JFKs assassination, which is just now after 50 years coming to light (because of solid, scientific forensic evidence). Without JFK assassination, the Vietnam war would not have happened.  Even Wikipedia now has a section on the fraudulent use of the Gulf of Tonkin incident to start that war. Johnson reversed Kennedy's efforts to pull out the troops.  Lyndon Johnson was Jewish, a little-known fact. He allowed the USS Liberty to be attacked and covered-up Israeli's role in that incident because of his ties to Israel. AWARE fits the classic definition of a limited hangout operation, where you diminish the importance of specific events that would embarrass or implicate Israel in 9/11 and the wars it precipitated by over-emphasizing trivial blather (and in the process entertain yourselves about how morally upstanding you think you are). A real antiwar activist gets to the bottom of these issues (anti-Zionism) and is not intimidated by Jewish power and influence in this academic community. Zionist Jews controlled all aspects of New York City government agencies that investigated, managed and finalized all aspects of 9/11.  It was and still is THE most perfect crime in the history of modern civilization.A dramatic rise in world-wide anti-Semitism is in part fueled by this realization and it has the Zionist community on edge. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:05 AM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: That's probably not true. With no Pearl Harbor, the contest between the US and Japan for control of the Pacific - two generations old at the time - would have continued. Similarly, w/o 911, US  aggression in the Mideast - also generations old - would continue. 911 was a counterattack. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: Without 9/11 there would be no Killer Koh drones,Just as there would have been no D-Day without Pearl Harbor. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:25 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" (Boyle, Francis A) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:24:47 +0000 From: "Boyle, Francis A" To: "'chicago at worldcantwait.net'" ,     "'Amanda Bass'" , "'C. G. Estabrook'"     , "'C. G. Estabrook'" ,     "'Peace Discuss'" , "'David Johnson'"     , "'Stuart Levy'"     , "'Karen Medina'" ,     "Szoke, Ron" , "'Mildred O'brien'"     , "'peace at lists.chambana.net'"     , "'davegreen84 at yahoo.com'"     , "Readel, Karin" ,     "Estabrook, Carl G" , "'Belden Fields'"     , "'jmachota at shout.net'" ,     "'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List'"     , "'Bryan Savage'" ,     "Hoffman, Valerie J" , "Miller, Joseph Thomas"     , "'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com'"     , "'David Swanson'"     , "'Karen Aram'" Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" And I notice that October 28-29 will be Homecoming for the University of Illinois. That’s just great! What more could we ask for? All the Illinois Law Mafia Alumni/ae Big Wigs will be there for Killer Koh’s Lecture and Reception. We will let the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias know that this STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN! WE THE PEOPLE will teach the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias assembled there what THE LAW is supposed to be all about: “We the People of the United States…do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” Be there or be square! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:36 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson ; Karen Aram Subject: RE: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" I will be there for sure in the North Courtyard of the Illinois Mafia Law Building on Peabody Drive just across from the Krannert Art Museum on Friday, October 28 just before Noon in order to denounce Killer Koh and the Illinois Mafia Law Faculty for inviting him. Be there or be square! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:13 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson >; Karen Aram > Subject: FW: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Way to go! No To Killer Koh! No to Yale Law Mafia! No to Illinois Law Mafia! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Google Alerts [mailto:googlealerts-noreply at google.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:06 AM To: Francis.A.Boyle at gmail.com Subject: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" [Google] "Killer Koh" As-it-happens update ⋅ September 6, 2016 WEB Reception to protest Professor Harold Hongju Killer Koh. Discover Events Happening in Your City Protesting the speaking invitation by the College of Law, University of Illinois, Champaign, Urbana, to Harold Killer Koh, an advocate of targeted killing. [Google Plus] [Facebook] [Twitter] Flag as irrelevant You have received this email because you have subscribed to Google Alerts. [RSS]Receive this alert as RSS feed Send Feedback -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Wed Sep 7 15:44:26 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:44:26 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 In-Reply-To: <1554926600.300146.1473258871674@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1042198869.245943.1473255045730@mail.yahoo.com> <1554926600.300146.1473258871674@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <009f01d2091e$b6f73990$24e5acb0$@comcast.net> Sure Stephen, That explains why everyone involved in AWARE is anti-Zionist and routinely exposes and criticizes the Israeli government. That explains why David Green who is of Jewish heritage has been viciously attacked by Zionists and called a “ self-hating Jew “. That explains why I have a radio program and five segments of my T.V. program every year in September dedicated to exposing the lies of the Bush administration and the so called “ official “ 9-11 story as well as having you on the radio program in the past with your choice of a call in guest and promoting and attending your 9-11 conference at the Urbana library several years ago. That is why I also have a 2- part program on my T.V. show every year in November showing Nigel Turner’s documentary “ The Men Who Killed Kennedy “. People involved in AWARE have differences of opinion about the Kennedy assignation and the 9-11-2001 attacks. But we all are ; anti-Zionists, anti-racist, anti-authoritarian, anti-capitalists, and oppose the policies of the Israeli and U.S. governments. The reasons you state are NOT why we are giving you the cold shoulder. We are giving you the cold shoulder because of your anti-Semitism, which discredits everything worthwhile you have to say about other issues. PERIOD ! David Johnson From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 9:35 AM To: Carl G. Estabrook; Peace-discuss List Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 You again confirm my assertion that AWARE is basically a pro-Israeli/Zionist and 'establishment' organization that supports the official views of the major world events. Will anyone come forward and admit they question the conclusions of the Warren Commission. No. Not because they have don't have doubts about it, but rather they can't because it would open the door to real investigation of government/Israeli complicity in JFKs assassination, which is just now after 50 years coming to light (because of solid, scientific forensic evidence). Without JFK assassination, the Vietnam war would not have happened. Even Wikipedia now has a section on the fraudulent use of the Gulf of Tonkin incident to start that war. Johnson reversed Kennedy's efforts to pull out the troops. Lyndon Johnson was Jewish, a little-known fact. He allowed the USS Liberty to be attacked and covered-up Israeli's role in that incident because of his ties to Israel. AWARE fits the classic definition of a limited hangout operation, where you diminish the importance of specific events that would embarrass or implicate Israel in 9/11 and the wars it precipitated by over-emphasizing trivial blather (and in the process entertain yourselves about how morally upstanding you think you are). A real antiwar activist gets to the bottom of these issues (anti-Zionism) and is not intimidated by Jewish power and influence in this academic community. Zionist Jews controlled all aspects of New York City government agencies that investigated, managed and finalized all aspects of 9/11. It was and still is THE most perfect crime in the history of modern civilization. A dramatic rise in world-wide anti-Semitism is in part fueled by this realization and it has the Zionist community on edge. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:05 AM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: That's probably not true. With no Pearl Harbor, the contest between the US and Japan for control of the Pacific - two generations old at the time - would have continued. Similarly, w/o 911, US aggression in the Mideast - also generations old - would continue. 911 was a counterattack. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: Without 9/11 there would be no Killer Koh drones, Just as there would have been no D-Day without Pearl Harbor. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:25 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" (Boyle, Francis A) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:24:47 +0000 From: "Boyle, Francis A" To: "'chicago at worldcantwait.net'" , "'Amanda Bass'" , "'C. G. Estabrook'" , "'C. G. Estabrook'" , "'Peace Discuss'" , "'David Johnson'" , "'Stuart Levy'" , "'Karen Medina'" , "Szoke, Ron" , "'Mildred O'brien'" , "'peace at lists.chambana.net'" , "'davegreen84 at yahoo.com'" , "Readel, Karin" , "Estabrook, Carl G" , "'Belden Fields'" , "'jmachota at shout.net'" , "'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List'" , "'Bryan Savage'" , "Hoffman, Valerie J" , "Miller, Joseph Thomas" , "'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com'" , "'David Swanson'" , "'Karen Aram'" Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" And I notice that October 28-29 will be Homecoming for the University of Illinois. That’s just great! What more could we ask for? All the Illinois Law Mafia Alumni/ae Big Wigs will be there for Killer Koh’s Lecture and Reception. We will let the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias know that this STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN! WE THE PEOPLE will teach the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias assembled there what THE LAW is supposed to be all about: “We the People of the United States…do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” Be there or be square! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:36 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson ; Karen Aram Subject: RE: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" I will be there for sure in the North Courtyard of the Illinois Mafia Law Building on Peabody Drive just across from the Krannert Art Museum on Friday, October 28 just before Noon in order to denounce Killer Koh and the Illinois Mafia Law Faculty for inviting him. Be there or be square! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:13 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson >; Karen Aram > Subject: FW: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Way to go! No To Killer Koh! No to Yale Law Mafia! No to Illinois Law Mafia! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 7 15:56:47 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 57 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2112149850.350153.1473263807811@mail.yahoo.com> I'll admit lumping everyone into one category is wrong, and I appreciate your explanation and agree with it mostly.My problem is that no one will accept the fact the Zionists murdered 3000 people on 9/11 and that that is one of the most horrific events in the history of modern civilization. It led to possibly 1 million senseless Iraqi deaths. These thoughts are just dismissed out of hand and it pisses me off.I apologize to anyone who I may have offended and double down on the above statement. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:45 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 (David Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:44:26 -0500 From: "David Johnson" To: "'Stephen Francis'" ,     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 Message-ID: <009f01d2091e$b6f73990$24e5acb0$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sure Stephen, That explains why everyone involved in AWARE is anti-Zionist and routinely exposes and criticizes the Israeli government. That explains why David Green who is of Jewish heritage has been viciously attacked by Zionists and called a “ self-hating Jew “. That explains why I have a radio program and five segments of my T.V. program every year in September dedicated to exposing the lies of the Bush administration and the so called “ official “ 9-11 story as well as having you on the radio program in the past with your choice of a call in guest and promoting and attending your 9-11 conference at the Urbana library several years ago. That is why I also have a 2- part program on my T.V. show every year in November showing Nigel Turner’s documentary “ The Men Who Killed Kennedy “. People involved in AWARE have differences of opinion about the Kennedy assignation and the 9-11-2001 attacks. But we all are ; anti-Zionists, anti-racist, anti-authoritarian, anti-capitalists, and oppose the policies of the Israeli and U.S. governments. The reasons you state are NOT why we are giving you the cold shoulder. We are giving you the cold shoulder because of your anti-Semitism, which discredits everything worthwhile you have to say about other issues. PERIOD ! David Johnson From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 9:35 AM To: Carl G. Estabrook; Peace-discuss List Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 You again confirm my assertion that AWARE is basically a pro-Israeli/Zionist and 'establishment' organization that supports the official views of the major world events. Will anyone come forward and admit they question the conclusions of the Warren Commission. No. Not because they have don't have doubts about it, but rather they can't because it would open the door to real investigation of government/Israeli complicity in JFKs assassination, which is just now after 50 years coming to light (because of solid, scientific forensic evidence). Without JFK assassination, the Vietnam war would not have happened.  Even Wikipedia now has a section on the fraudulent use of the Gulf of Tonkin incident to start that war. Johnson reversed Kennedy's efforts to pull out the troops.  Lyndon Johnson was Jewish, a little-known fact. He allowed the USS Liberty to be attacked and covered-up Israeli's role in that incident because of his ties to Israel. AWARE fits the classic definition of a limited hangout operation, where you diminish the importance of specific events that would embarrass or implicate Israel in 9/11 and the wars it precipitated by over-emphasizing trivial blather (and in the process entertain yourselves about how morally upstanding you think you are). A real antiwar activist gets to the bottom of these issues (anti-Zionism) and is not intimidated by Jewish power and influence in this academic community. Zionist Jews controlled all aspects of New York City government agencies that investigated, managed and finalized all aspects of 9/11.  It was and still is THE most perfect crime in the history of modern civilization. A dramatic rise in world-wide anti-Semitism is in part fueled by this realization and it has the Zionist community on edge. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:05 AM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: That's probably not true. With no Pearl Harbor, the contest between the US and Japan for control of the Pacific - two generations old at the time - would have continued. Similarly, w/o 911, US  aggression in the Mideast - also generations old - would continue. 911 was a counterattack. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: Without 9/11 there would be no Killer Koh drones, Just as there would have been no D-Day without Pearl Harbor. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:25 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" (Boyle, Francis A) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:24:47 +0000 From: "Boyle, Francis A" To: "'chicago at worldcantwait.net'" ,     "'Amanda Bass'" , "'C. G. Estabrook'"     , "'C. G. Estabrook'" ,     "'Peace Discuss'" , "'David Johnson'"     , "'Stuart Levy'"     , "'Karen Medina'" ,     "Szoke, Ron" , "'Mildred O'brien'"     , "'peace at lists.chambana.net'"     , "'davegreen84 at yahoo.com'"     , "Readel, Karin" ,     "Estabrook, Carl G" , "'Belden Fields'"     , "'jmachota at shout.net'" ,     "'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List'"     , "'Bryan Savage'" ,     "Hoffman, Valerie J" , "Miller, Joseph Thomas"     , "'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com'"     , "'David Swanson'"     , "'Karen Aram'" Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" And I notice that October 28-29 will be Homecoming for the University of Illinois. That’s just great! What more could we ask for? All the Illinois Law Mafia Alumni/ae Big Wigs will be there for Killer Koh’s Lecture and Reception. We will let the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias know that this STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN! WE THE PEOPLE will teach the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias assembled there what THE LAW is supposed to be all about: “We the People of the United States…do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” Be there or be square! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:36 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson ; Karen Aram Subject: RE: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" I will be there for sure in the North Courtyard of the Illinois Mafia Law Building on Peabody Drive just across from the Krannert Art Museum on Friday, October 28 just before Noon in order to denounce Killer Koh and the Illinois Mafia Law Faculty for inviting him. Be there or be square! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:13 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson >; Karen Aram > Subject: FW: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Way to go! No To Killer Koh! No to Yale Law Mafia! No to Illinois Law Mafia! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 7 15:59:59 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 57 In-Reply-To: <2112149850.350153.1473263807811@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2112149850.350153.1473263807811@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1650525328.354511.1473263999043@mail.yahoo.com> I'll admit lumping everyone into one category is wrong, and I appreciate your explanation and agree with it mostly.My problem is that no one will accept the fact the Zionists murdered 3000 people on 9/11 and that that is one of the most horrific events in the history of modern civilization. It led to possibly 1 million senseless Iraqi deaths. These thoughts are just dismissed out of hand and it pisses me off.I apologize to anyone who I may have offended and double down on the above statement. The minimization of the murder of those 3000 people is a directed goal of the Jewish power structure of which you David I don't think are a member of. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:56 AM, Stephen Francis wrote: I'll admit lumping everyone into one category is wrong, and I appreciate your explanation and agree with it mostly.My problem is that no one will accept the fact the Zionists murdered 3000 people on 9/11 and that that is one of the most horrific events in the history of modern civilization. It led to possibly 1 million senseless Iraqi deaths. These thoughts are just dismissed out of hand and it pisses me off.I apologize to anyone who I may have offended and double down on the above statement. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:45 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 (David Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:44:26 -0500 From: "David Johnson" To: "'Stephen Francis'" ,     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 Message-ID: <009f01d2091e$b6f73990$24e5acb0$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sure Stephen, That explains why everyone involved in AWARE is anti-Zionist and routinely exposes and criticizes the Israeli government. That explains why David Green who is of Jewish heritage has been viciously attacked by Zionists and called a “ self-hating Jew “. That explains why I have a radio program and five segments of my T.V. program every year in September dedicated to exposing the lies of the Bush administration and the so called “ official “ 9-11 story as well as having you on the radio program in the past with your choice of a call in guest and promoting and attending your 9-11 conference at the Urbana library several years ago. That is why I also have a 2- part program on my T.V. show every year in November showing Nigel Turner’s documentary “ The Men Who Killed Kennedy “. People involved in AWARE have differences of opinion about the Kennedy assignation and the 9-11-2001 attacks. But we all are ; anti-Zionists, anti-racist, anti-authoritarian, anti-capitalists, and oppose the policies of the Israeli and U.S. governments. The reasons you state are NOT why we are giving you the cold shoulder. We are giving you the cold shoulder because of your anti-Semitism, which discredits everything worthwhile you have to say about other issues. PERIOD ! David Johnson From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 9:35 AM To: Carl G. Estabrook; Peace-discuss List Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 You again confirm my assertion that AWARE is basically a pro-Israeli/Zionist and 'establishment' organization that supports the official views of the major world events. Will anyone come forward and admit they question the conclusions of the Warren Commission. No. Not because they have don't have doubts about it, but rather they can't because it would open the door to real investigation of government/Israeli complicity in JFKs assassination, which is just now after 50 years coming to light (because of solid, scientific forensic evidence). Without JFK assassination, the Vietnam war would not have happened.  Even Wikipedia now has a section on the fraudulent use of the Gulf of Tonkin incident to start that war. Johnson reversed Kennedy's efforts to pull out the troops.  Lyndon Johnson was Jewish, a little-known fact. He allowed the USS Liberty to be attacked and covered-up Israeli's role in that incident because of his ties to Israel. AWARE fits the classic definition of a limited hangout operation, where you diminish the importance of specific events that would embarrass or implicate Israel in 9/11 and the wars it precipitated by over-emphasizing trivial blather (and in the process entertain yourselves about how morally upstanding you think you are). A real antiwar activist gets to the bottom of these issues (anti-Zionism) and is not intimidated by Jewish power and influence in this academic community. Zionist Jews controlled all aspects of New York City government agencies that investigated, managed and finalized all aspects of 9/11.  It was and still is THE most perfect crime in the history of modern civilization. A dramatic rise in world-wide anti-Semitism is in part fueled by this realization and it has the Zionist community on edge. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:05 AM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: That's probably not true. With no Pearl Harbor, the contest between the US and Japan for control of the Pacific - two generations old at the time - would have continued. Similarly, w/o 911, US  aggression in the Mideast - also generations old - would continue. 911 was a counterattack. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: Without 9/11 there would be no Killer Koh drones, Just as there would have been no D-Day without Pearl Harbor. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:25 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" (Boyle, Francis A) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:24:47 +0000 From: "Boyle, Francis A" To: "'chicago at worldcantwait.net'" ,     "'Amanda Bass'" , "'C. G. Estabrook'"     , "'C. G. Estabrook'" ,     "'Peace Discuss'" , "'David Johnson'"     , "'Stuart Levy'"     , "'Karen Medina'" ,     "Szoke, Ron" , "'Mildred O'brien'"     , "'peace at lists.chambana.net'"     , "'davegreen84 at yahoo.com'"     , "Readel, Karin" ,     "Estabrook, Carl G" , "'Belden Fields'"     , "'jmachota at shout.net'" ,     "'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List'"     , "'Bryan Savage'" ,     "Hoffman, Valerie J" , "Miller, Joseph Thomas"     , "'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com'"     , "'David Swanson'"     , "'Karen Aram'" Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" And I notice that October 28-29 will be Homecoming for the University of Illinois. That’s just great! What more could we ask for? All the Illinois Law Mafia Alumni/ae Big Wigs will be there for Killer Koh’s Lecture and Reception. We will let the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias know that this STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN! WE THE PEOPLE will teach the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias assembled there what THE LAW is supposed to be all about: “We the People of the United States…do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” Be there or be square! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:36 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson ; Karen Aram Subject: RE: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" I will be there for sure in the North Courtyard of the Illinois Mafia Law Building on Peabody Drive just across from the Krannert Art Museum on Friday, October 28 just before Noon in order to denounce Killer Koh and the Illinois Mafia Law Faculty for inviting him. Be there or be square! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:13 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson >; Karen Aram > Subject: FW: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Way to go! No To Killer Koh! No to Yale Law Mafia! No to Illinois Law Mafia! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Google Alerts [mailto:googlealerts-noreply at google.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:06 AM To: Francis.A.Boyle at gmail.com Subject: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" [Google] &d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=ZL1Vbu64G11jiSWs1nGO4w44Zymu0n99RDk8VVDrQFY&m=klHPQLw4EmOx2VSbEBdeeD-0euiBU1I6kiZ_MC6weOQ&s=7opRCGgSCnhXI78jFvZgqcQvw-i67hGasJ7d2yZl1ko&e=> "Killer Koh" As-it-happens update ⋅ September 6, 2016 WEB Reception to protest Professor Harold Hongju Killer Koh. Discover Events Happening in Your City Protesting the speaking invitation by the College of Law, University of Illinois, Champaign, Urbana, to Harold Killer Koh, an advocate of targeted killing. [Google Plus] [Facebook] [Twitter] Flag as irrelevant You have received this email because you have subscribed to Google Alerts. 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URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 7 16:53:03 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 16:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 59 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1578269214.386561.1473267183728@mail.yahoo.com> I'll admit lumping everyone into one category is wrong, and I appreciate your explanation and agree with it mostly.My problem is that no one will accept the fact the Zionists murdered 3000 people on 9/11 and that that is one of the most horrific events in the history of modern civilization. It led to possibly 1 million senseless Iraqi deaths. These thoughts are just dismissed out of hand and it pisses me off.I apologize to anyone who I may have offended and double down on the above statement. The minimization of the murder of those 3000 people is a directed goal of the Jewish power structure of which you David I don't think are a member of.  I'm sure your response will be that this is just anti-Semitism.  That has worked in suppressing Zionist crimes for decades but is wearing out quickly, especially in the face of a vast amount of real evidence.  Of course, you will not debate the facts and only respond with epithets, for that has worked also, but times are changing.  On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 11:04 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 57 (Stephen Francis) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:59:59 +0000 (UTC) From: Stephen Francis To: "peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net"     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 57 Message-ID: <1650525328.354511.1473263999043 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I'll admit lumping everyone into one category is wrong, and I appreciate your explanation and agree with it mostly.My problem is that no one will accept the fact the Zionists murdered 3000 people on 9/11 and that that is one of the most horrific events in the history of modern civilization. It led to possibly 1 million senseless Iraqi deaths. These thoughts are just dismissed out of hand and it pisses me off.I apologize to anyone who I may have offended and double down on the above statement. The minimization of the murder of those 3000 people is a directed goal of the Jewish power structure of which you David I don't think are a member of.     On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:56 AM, Stephen Francis wrote: I'll admit lumping everyone into one category is wrong, and I appreciate your explanation and agree with it mostly.My problem is that no one will accept the fact the Zionists murdered 3000 people on 9/11 and that that is one of the most horrific events in the history of modern civilization. It led to possibly 1 million senseless Iraqi deaths. These thoughts are just dismissed out of hand and it pisses me off.I apologize to anyone who I may have offended and double down on the above statement.     On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:45 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 (David Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:44:26 -0500 From: "David Johnson" To: "'Stephen Francis'" ,     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 Message-ID: <009f01d2091e$b6f73990$24e5acb0$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sure Stephen, That explains why everyone involved in AWARE is anti-Zionist and routinely exposes and criticizes the Israeli government. That explains why David Green who is of Jewish heritage has been viciously attacked by Zionists and called a “ self-hating Jew “. That explains why I have a radio program and five segments of my T.V. program every year in September dedicated to exposing the lies of the Bush administration and the so called “ official “ 9-11 story as well as having you on the radio program in the past with your choice of a call in guest and promoting and attending your 9-11 conference at the Urbana library several years ago. That is why I also have a 2- part program on my T.V. show every year in November showing Nigel Turner’s documentary “ The Men Who Killed Kennedy “. People involved in AWARE have differences of opinion about the Kennedy assignation and the 9-11-2001 attacks. But we all are ; anti-Zionists, anti-racist, anti-authoritarian, anti-capitalists, and oppose the policies of the Israeli and U.S. governments. The reasons you state are NOT why we are giving you the cold shoulder. We are giving you the cold shoulder because of your anti-Semitism, which discredits everything worthwhile you have to say about other issues. PERIOD ! David Johnson From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 9:35 AM To: Carl G. Estabrook; Peace-discuss List Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 52 You again confirm my assertion that AWARE is basically a pro-Israeli/Zionist and 'establishment' organization that supports the official views of the major world events. Will anyone come forward and admit they question the conclusions of the Warren Commission. No. Not because they have don't have doubts about it, but rather they can't because it would open the door to real investigation of government/Israeli complicity in JFKs assassination, which is just now after 50 years coming to light (because of solid, scientific forensic evidence). Without JFK assassination, the Vietnam war would not have happened.  Even Wikipedia now has a section on the fraudulent use of the Gulf of Tonkin incident to start that war. Johnson reversed Kennedy's efforts to pull out the troops.  Lyndon Johnson was Jewish, a little-known fact. He allowed the USS Liberty to be attacked and covered-up Israeli's role in that incident because of his ties to Israel. AWARE fits the classic definition of a limited hangout operation, where you diminish the importance of specific events that would embarrass or implicate Israel in 9/11 and the wars it precipitated by over-emphasizing trivial blather (and in the process entertain yourselves about how morally upstanding you think you are). A real antiwar activist gets to the bottom of these issues (anti-Zionism) and is not intimidated by Jewish power and influence in this academic community. Zionist Jews controlled all aspects of New York City government agencies that investigated, managed and finalized all aspects of 9/11.  It was and still is THE most perfect crime in the history of modern civilization. A dramatic rise in world-wide anti-Semitism is in part fueled by this realization and it has the Zionist community on edge. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:05 AM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: That's probably not true. With no Pearl Harbor, the contest between the US and Japan for control of the Pacific - two generations old at the time - would have continued. Similarly, w/o 911, US  aggression in the Mideast - also generations old - would continue. 911 was a counterattack. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: Without 9/11 there would be no Killer Koh drones, Just as there would have been no D-Day without Pearl Harbor. On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:25 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" (Boyle, Francis A) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:24:47 +0000 From: "Boyle, Francis A" To: "'chicago at worldcantwait.net'" ,     "'Amanda Bass'" , "'C. G. Estabrook'"     , "'C. G. Estabrook'" ,     "'Peace Discuss'" , "'David Johnson'"     , "'Stuart Levy'"     , "'Karen Medina'" ,     "Szoke, Ron" , "'Mildred O'brien'"     , "'peace at lists.chambana.net'"     , "'davegreen84 at yahoo.com'"     , "Readel, Karin" ,     "Estabrook, Carl G" , "'Belden Fields'"     , "'jmachota at shout.net'" ,     "'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List'"     , "'Bryan Savage'" ,     "Hoffman, Valerie J" , "Miller, Joseph Thomas"     , "'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com'"     , "'David Swanson'"     , "'Karen Aram'" Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" And I notice that October 28-29 will be Homecoming for the University of Illinois. That’s just great! What more could we ask for? All the Illinois Law Mafia Alumni/ae Big Wigs will be there for Killer Koh’s Lecture and Reception. We will let the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias know that this STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN! WE THE PEOPLE will teach the entire Illinois/Yale Law Mafias assembled there what THE LAW is supposed to be all about: “We the People of the United States…do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” Be there or be square! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:36 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson ; Karen Aram Subject: RE: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" I will be there for sure in the North Courtyard of the Illinois Mafia Law Building on Peabody Drive just across from the Krannert Art Museum on Friday, October 28 just before Noon in order to denounce Killer Koh and the Illinois Mafia Law Faculty for inviting him. Be there or be square! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:13 AM To: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass >; C. G. Estabrook >; C. G. Estabrook >; Peace Discuss >; David Johnson >; Stuart Levy >; Karen Medina >; Szoke, Ron >; Mildred O'brien >; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; Belden Fields >; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List >; Bryan Savage >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson >; Karen Aram > Subject: FW: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" Way to go! No To Killer Koh! No to Yale Law Mafia! No to Illinois Law Mafia! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) View event details. [cid:image001.png at 01D209B4.8D595190] Following the lecture, consider attending the "Free Speech on Campus" panel discussion at the Illini Union, Room A. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 548384 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Sep 8 14:43:30 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 14:43:30 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh References: Message-ID: "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) View event details. [cid:image001.png at 01D209B5.6FBD4050] Following the lecture, consider attending the "Free Speech on Campus" panel discussion at the Illini Union, Room A. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 548384 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Sep 8 18:12:43 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 18:12:43 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) View event details. [cid:image001.png at 01D209D1.5D5804B0] Following the lecture, consider attending the "Free Speech on Campus" panel discussion at the Illini Union, Room A. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 548384 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Sep 8 18:25:07 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 18:25:07 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh References: Message-ID: And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) View event details. [cid:image001.png at 01D209D3.E08074B0] Following the lecture, consider attending the "Free Speech on Campus" panel discussion at the Illini Union, Room A. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 548384 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Sep 8 19:04:13 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 19:04:13 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ...At the behest of its Straussian Neo-Con Political Science Department, in 1979 the entire University of Chicago went out of its way to grant the "first Albert Pick Jr. Award for Outstanding Contributions to International Understanding" to Robert McNamara, who was personally responsible for exterminating 3 million Vietnamese and 58,000 men of my generation. In other words, the University of Chicago itself maliciously strove to rehabilitate one of the greatest international war criminals in the post-World War II era. History shall always record that the University of Chicago gratuitously honored Bob Half-an-Eichmann McNamara. As J.D. Rockefeller, the Original Robber Baron and Funder of the University of Chicago once commented about his progeny: It's the best investment I ever made. It still is. Fab, AB, University of Chicago in Political Science, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:25 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) View event details. [cid:image001.png at 01D209D9.DD4D4E70] Following the lecture, consider attending the "Free Speech on Campus" panel discussion at the Illini Union, Room A. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 548384 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Thu Sep 8 23:56:06 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 18:56:06 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: WORLD LABOR HOUR SAT. 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 9 08:23:13 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 08:23:13 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One other point on this matter. After a long struggle by our student body and our Community, the University of Illinois Board of Trustees did DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. By contrast, the University of Chicago adamantly and proudly REFUSED TO DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. This is because the University of Chicago has always been a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Black People including African Americans living around the University of Chicago upon whom UChicago has and continues to practice Urban Apartheid, Ethnic Cleansing and Lebensraum. QED Fab. AB, UChicago 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:25 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) View event details. [cid:image001.png at 01D20A49.79E7F220] Following the lecture, consider attending the "Free Speech on Campus" panel discussion at the Illini Union, Room A. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 548384 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 9 11:29:08 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 11:29:08 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Google Alert - "Killer Koh" In-Reply-To: <001a1149c42ec14764053c10ab94@google.com> References: <001a1149c42ec14764053c10ab94@google.com> Message-ID: Way to go Midge! Getting around the Net! Our Netizen! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 9 12:42:06 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 12:42:06 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Killer Koh at Illinois Mafia Law School-- August 2016: an update on the US covert drone war Message-ID: Way to go Killer Koh, Killary,Obama and their Yale/Harvard/Illinois Law Mafias! My middle son could have gone to any of the top law schools in the country. I told him to avoid YLS and HLS because they have Resident War Criminals on their Faculties—Killer Koh at Yale Law School and Jack Goldsmith at Harvard Law School. Why would you want to study The Law with a Law Faculty that voted to hire a War Criminal? I certainly would not send my son there. When Disgraced and Fired NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd tried to hire a War Criminal here, I went BALLISTIC with the Faculty. This guy is now perverting some other Law Faculty where he is training his law students to become War Criminals. NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd also tried to hire a former Covert CIA Agent who used to work in the Middle East—undoubtedly murdering Muslims/Arabs of Color: war crimes. Once again, I went Ballistic with the Faculty. good riddance to her too! So it goes at the Illinois Mafia School of Law. And now here comes Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Killer Koh just on time to get Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Killary elected President at the Illinois Mafia Law School on October 28 at the invite of our Yale Law Mafia Dean: Al Capone: Yo, Frank, do youse think we should send our War Consigliere down there to Illinois Mafia Law School in Champaign for some Continuing Legal Education? Frank Nitti: I told ya Al, dey got no Honor down there. Dey’s for hitting women and kids. Al Capone: Yeah, We Goodfellas don’t do dat. Frank Nitti:We have our Code of Honor. We don’t hit women and kids. Al Capone: Dere Da Bad Fellas. Dey hit women and kids. Frank Nitti: So we don’t want our War Consigliere to learn nuttin about hitting women and kids down there at the Illinois Mafia Law School. Al Capone: Yeah, it will disgrace the Capone Family and the entire Mob! Frank Nitti: We have to uphold the Honor of all us Goodfellas. Al Capone: Where would we be without our Honor? Frank Nitti: Just a Gang of Two Bit Thugs! Al Capone: Yeah! Just like the Illinois Law Mafia Family: A Gang of Two Bit Thugs! Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: The Bureau of Investigative Journalism [mailto:info=thebureauinvestigates.com at mail58.suw15.mcsv.net] On Behalf Of The Bureau of Investigative Journalism Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 6:47 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: August 2016: an update on the US covert drone war A monthly update from the on the US covert war on terror. View this email in your browser [https://gallery.mailchimp.com/0592afb78c924d61727f4da3c/images/080908_F_KU298_1087.jpg] Afghanistan There were 45 US strikes reported last month in Afghanistan, killing at least 60 people. The casualty figure comes from just 10 of these strikes. The other 35 were reported by the US military which does not provide casualty figures. In June the White House gave the Pentagon more freedom to strike the Taliban in support of Afghan ground forces who are struggling to hold off the insurgents in some provinces. The US conducted 25 strikes in Helmand last month, helping Afghan forces beat back the Taliban who were encircling the provincial capital. The US also conducted 10 strikes in Kunduz, again supporting government troops fighting the Taliban. The June rule change appears to have had a direct impact on the frequency of strikes. US Air Force data for July, released in mid-August, shows the US fired 130 missiles and bombs, up from 94 reported in June. Bureau data August 2016 2015 onwards US strikes: 45 421-426 Total killed: 60-185 2,009-2,661 Civilians reported killed: 0-13 75-134 The Bureau is collecting data on individual strikes in Afghanistan, summarised above. However not all strikes are reported in open source material. The US Air Force publishes an aggregate summary of strikes in Afghanistan without any casualty information, which we have reproduced below. August numbers will be published in September. US Air Force data July 2016 January 2015 onwards Total Close Air Support (CAS) sorties with at least one weapon release: 53 733 Total CAS sorties: 482 8,803 Total weapons released: 130 1,622 The Bureau's timeline of events in the drone war in Afghanistan so far in 2016. A database of all US strikes recorded by the Bureau in Afghanistan since 2015. Pakistan More than three months have passed since US drones last hit in Pakistan. The last recorded strike in Pakistan was on May 21. August 2016 2004 onwards US drone strikes: 0 424 Total killed: 0 2,499-4,001 Civilians reported killed: 0 424-966 The Bureau's timeline of events in the drone war in Pakistan in 2016. A database of all US drone strikes recorded by the Bureau in Pakistan from 2004 to the end of May 2016. Yemen Three US “counter-terrorism strikes” hit Yemen in August, according to a Pentagon press release. At least nine alleged al Qaeda fighters were reported killed. All three strikes hit in Shabwa province, where nearly two-thirds of strikes have hit so far in 2016. August 2016 2001 onwards US drone strikes: 3 132-152 Total killed: 9-12 568-828 Civilians reported killed: 0 65-101 The Bureau's timeline of events in the drone war in Yemen in 2016. A database of all US drone strikes, air strikes and missile strikes recorded by the Bureau in Yemen since 2001. Somalia The US said it had carried out a "self-defence strike" on August 30 against al Shabaab in coordination with Somali forces. This was the first strike in the country since June 21. In a press release they said the strike hit near Gobanale and resulted in the deaths of two al Shabaab militants. August 2016 2007 onwards US strikes: 1 30-34 Total killed: 2 228-392 Civilians reported killed: 0 3-10 The Bureau's timeline of events in the drone war in Somalia. A database of all US drone strikes, air strikes and missile strikes recorded by the Bureau in Somalia since 2007. If you have any questions about the data, please contact Jack Serle. Copyright © 2016 The Bureau of Investigative Journalism, All rights reserved. You are receiving this email because you opted to receive alerts about TBIJ's covert drone war investigation from www.thebureauinvestigates.com. Our mailing address is: The Bureau of Investigative Journalism PO BOX 73125 London, London EC1P 1GJ United Kingdom Add us to your address book -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 9 17:01:40 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 17:01:40 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And speaking of "free speech" on this campus, here is my Response to the Statement on "civility" by Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!}. fab. The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illiniwaks The Principles on Which We Stand At the University of Illiniwaks: The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Long Live Chief Illiniwak! Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol For the University of Illiniwaks And Illiniwaks all over the world! Illiniwak Pride! Illiniwak Fever! The Daily Illiniwak Illiniwaks Yearbooks Illiniwaks Homecoming Our Redskin Tradition Eagle Feathers too Illiniwak Stadium Our Illiniwakettes Our Fighting Illiniwaks Illiniwak Cheerleaders Our Marching Illiniwaks Band Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Oskee! Bow! Wow! Just Honoring American Indians Not demeaning anyone Nor meaning them too All very civil How White of us all! The University of Illiniwaks Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! And racists to boot Genocidaires too So very educational The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Anthro 101 A required course To get our degrees >From the University of Illiniwaks Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:23 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh One other point on this matter. After a long struggle by our student body and our Community, the University of Illinois Board of Trustees did DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. By contrast, the University of Chicago adamantly and proudly REFUSED TO DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. This is because the University of Chicago has always been a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Black People including African Americans living around the University of Chicago upon whom UChicago has and continues to practice Urban Apartheid, Ethnic Cleansing and Lebensraum. QED Fab. AB, UChicago 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:25 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) View event details. [cid:image001.png at 01D20A91.E3A1E7A0] Following the lecture, consider attending the "Free Speech on Campus" panel discussion at the Illini Union, Room A. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 548384 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 9 17:13:31 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 17:13:31 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh References: Message-ID: I dedicate my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" to Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} in the name of "civility." fab. Script for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! produced by Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law So here we are at Memorial Stadium on a beautiful Fall Saturday afternoon during the Michigan-Illiniwak Football Game. There are 77,000 drunken fans here and the game is covered nationwide and live by CBS TV. For the drunken fans on the radio, Jim Turpin of the News-Gazoo/ WDWS Illiniwak Media Empire attempts and fumbles the play-by-play calls. It is half-time. Time for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle. So here goes: 1. The Marching Illiniwak Drum/Dumb Corps take the field at Memorial stadium and proceed to strike up the special Illiniwak drumbeat that I had previously composed for them, all saying in unison over the gigantic stadium sound speaker system: dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb This special dumb-beat continues ad nauseam throughout the performance. 2. Now, out comes the rest of the University of Illiniwak's "Marching Illiniwak" band and strikes up the music for the famous pop song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight." 3. Then, out comes the University of Illiniwak's Glee Club and sings my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" over a special microphone/amplification system fed through the gigantic stadium speakers so that everyone can hear the magnificent lyrics: The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight by Francis A. Boyle Hush my Illiniwaks , my little Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Hush my Illiniwaks, my quiet Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. The Mighty Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! The Glee Club repeats these lyrics ad nauseam throughout the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! 4. Next the Marching Illiniwaks execute their famous "Three-in-One" Illiniwak March. 5. Now the most electrifying moment in sports history: Little Red Sambo Himself, Chief Illiniwak, runs through the band, pops out, and does his little jig at mid-field. 6. Finally, all 77,000 people in the stadium begin to chant in unison and in time with the band and the Glee Club, adding in for emphasis,support, and of course dignity, their "Tomahawk chops": Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Repeated ad nauseam. This magnificent "Chief Illiniwak Spectacle" will of course be shown nation-wide to an audience of tens of millions of football fans and admirers of our "flagship" State University in the Great State of Illiniwaks: The University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign! Home of the the Marching Illiniwaks Band and their Official Mascot, Chief Illiniwak, Little Red Sambo Himself. Certainly the type of University you want to send your children to--unless they are Native American, African American, Asian American, Latino/a, or Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims of Color. F.A.B. * Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:02 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And speaking of "free speech" on this campus, here is my Response to the Statement on "civility" by Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!}. fab. The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illiniwaks The Principles on Which We Stand At the University of Illiniwaks: The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Long Live Chief Illiniwak! Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol For the University of Illiniwaks And Illiniwaks all over the world! Illiniwak Pride! Illiniwak Fever! The Daily Illiniwak Illiniwaks Yearbooks Illiniwaks Homecoming Our Redskin Tradition Eagle Feathers too Illiniwak Stadium Our Illiniwakettes Our Fighting Illiniwaks Illiniwak Cheerleaders Our Marching Illiniwaks Band Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Oskee! Bow! Wow! Just Honoring American Indians Not demeaning anyone Nor meaning them too All very civil How White of us all! The University of Illiniwaks Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! And racists to boot Genocidaires too So very educational The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Anthro 101 A required course To get our degrees >From the University of Illiniwaks Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:23 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh One other point on this matter. After a long struggle by our student body and our Community, the University of Illinois Board of Trustees did DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. By contrast, the University of Chicago adamantly and proudly REFUSED TO DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. This is because the University of Chicago has always been a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Black People including African Americans living around the University of Chicago upon whom UChicago has and continues to practice Urban Apartheid, Ethnic Cleansing and Lebensraum. QED Fab. AB, UChicago 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:25 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) View event details. [cid:image001.png at 01D20A93.8ED63940] Following the lecture, consider attending the "Free Speech on Campus" panel discussion at the Illini Union, Room A. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 548384 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 9 18:02:42 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 18:02:42 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh References: Message-ID: Here is my letter to Fired and Disgraced President Whitey in the name of "civility". Acting at Whitey's behest our Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd then denied me a pay raise. If you want to exercise your "free speech rights" on this campus, you have to pay a price. That is how Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} got us on the AAUP Censure List for her bigoted and racist persecution of the Palestinian/Arab of Color Steven Salaita and his Family. In that regard, the previous Acting Dean of the University of Illinois College of Law Mafia School sent a public bootlicking letter to Chancellor Wise {sic!} fully supporting her persecution of the Palestinian/Arab Steven Salaita and his Family. Such is the First Amendment and "freedom of speech" at the University of Illinois Mafia Law School. Don't be fooled by anything these 3 Illinois/Yale/Laws Mafioso Profs tell you on this panel. Caveat emptor! Fab. From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (Voice) 217-244-1478 (Fax) __._,_.___ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:14 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh I dedicate my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" to Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} in the name of "civility." fab. Script for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! produced by Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law So here we are at Memorial Stadium on a beautiful Fall Saturday afternoon during the Michigan-Illiniwak Football Game. There are 77,000 drunken fans here and the game is covered nationwide and live by CBS TV. For the drunken fans on the radio, Jim Turpin of the News-Gazoo/ WDWS Illiniwak Media Empire attempts and fumbles the play-by-play calls. It is half-time. Time for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle. So here goes: 1. The Marching Illiniwak Drum/Dumb Corps take the field at Memorial stadium and proceed to strike up the special Illiniwak drumbeat that I had previously composed for them, all saying in unison over the gigantic stadium sound speaker system: dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb This special dumb-beat continues ad nauseam throughout the performance. 2. Now, out comes the rest of the University of Illiniwak's "Marching Illiniwak" band and strikes up the music for the famous pop song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight." 3. Then, out comes the University of Illiniwak's Glee Club and sings my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" over a special microphone/amplification system fed through the gigantic stadium speakers so that everyone can hear the magnificent lyrics: The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight by Francis A. Boyle Hush my Illiniwaks , my little Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Hush my Illiniwaks, my quiet Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. The Mighty Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! The Glee Club repeats these lyrics ad nauseam throughout the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! 4. Next the Marching Illiniwaks execute their famous "Three-in-One" Illiniwak March. 5. Now the most electrifying moment in sports history: Little Red Sambo Himself, Chief Illiniwak, runs through the band, pops out, and does his little jig at mid-field. 6. Finally, all 77,000 people in the stadium begin to chant in unison and in time with the band and the Glee Club, adding in for emphasis,support, and of course dignity, their "Tomahawk chops": Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Repeated ad nauseam. This magnificent "Chief Illiniwak Spectacle" will of course be shown nation-wide to an audience of tens of millions of football fans and admirers of our "flagship" State University in the Great State of Illiniwaks: The University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign! Home of the the Marching Illiniwaks Band and their Official Mascot, Chief Illiniwak, Little Red Sambo Himself. Certainly the type of University you want to send your children to--unless they are Native American, African American, Asian American, Latino/a, or Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims of Color. F.A.B. * Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:02 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And speaking of "free speech" on this campus, here is my Response to the Statement on "civility" by Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!}. fab. The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illiniwaks The Principles on Which We Stand At the University of Illiniwaks: The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Long Live Chief Illiniwak! Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol For the University of Illiniwaks And Illiniwaks all over the world! Illiniwak Pride! Illiniwak Fever! The Daily Illiniwak Illiniwaks Yearbooks Illiniwaks Homecoming Our Redskin Tradition Eagle Feathers too Illiniwak Stadium Our Illiniwakettes Our Fighting Illiniwaks Illiniwak Cheerleaders Our Marching Illiniwaks Band Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Oskee! Bow! Wow! Just Honoring American Indians Not demeaning anyone Nor meaning them too All very civil How White of us all! The University of Illiniwaks Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! And racists to boot Genocidaires too So very educational The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Anthro 101 A required course To get our degrees >From the University of Illiniwaks Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:23 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh One other point on this matter. After a long struggle by our student body and our Community, the University of Illinois Board of Trustees did DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. By contrast, the University of Chicago adamantly and proudly REFUSED TO DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. This is because the University of Chicago has always been a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Black People including African Americans living around the University of Chicago upon whom UChicago has and continues to practice Urban Apartheid, Ethnic Cleansing and Lebensraum. QED Fab. AB, UChicago 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:25 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) View event details. [cid:image001.png at 01D20A99.334E9DF0] Following the lecture, consider attending the "Free Speech on Campus" panel discussion at the Illini Union, Room A. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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And now comes the Yale Law Mafia Resident Faculty War Criminal Harold Killer Koh to speak at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School on the proper Role for Lawyers to play in Government Service on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later at the invitation of our newest Yale Law Mafia Dean, with our previous Yale Law Mafia Dean Bruce Smith being Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned. At the University of Illinois Mafia Law School: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH WE ALL LOVE BIG BROTHER REAGAN WAS PRESIDENT IN 1984 KILLER KOH WORKED FOR REAGAN FROM 1983 TO 1985 Fab. -----Original Message----- From: CERJ at igc.org [mailto:CERJ at igc.org] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:57 AM To: CERJ at igc.org Subject: Yet Another Racist Mascot The Racist Mascot from Urbana-Champaign: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois by Francis Boyle The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the January 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for the Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his "Year 501: The Conquest Continues" (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on t his campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews", and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago, the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to " Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time, the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him. Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in, and that culminates with the band being organized into a swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews form themselves into a swastika. By now, all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming and yelling: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi." This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out o f the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat, the former Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says:"We are honoring the Jews" ... whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. Historically, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, its Boards of Trustees, its Presidents, its Chancellors, its Provosts, its Deans, Directors and Department Heads, and most of its Faculty and Alumni/ae have always been the Ku Klux Klan dressed up in Caps and Gowns instead of Hoods and Sheets. [Francis A. Boyle is a distinguished Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois' Champaign-Urbana campus.] ========================================= COLLEGIUM IUSTITIÆ ÆQUITATEM RESTITUENTI +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ John Woolman College of Equity-Restorative Justice Peacemaking and Conflict Transformation [CERJ] c/o John Wilmerding > 217 High Street, Brattleboro, VT, USA 05301-6073 Phone: (01)-802-254-2826 Email to: CERJ at igc.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "... where Quakers and revolutionaries join for life ..." -- Laura Nyro, from 'New York Tendaberry', 1969 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:03 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Here is my letter to Fired and Disgraced President Whitey in the name of "civility". Acting at Whitey's behest our Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd then denied me a pay raise. If you want to exercise your "free speech rights" on this campus, you have to pay a price. That is how Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} got us on the AAUP Censure List for her bigoted and racist persecution of the Palestinian/Arab of Color Steven Salaita and his Family. In that regard, the previous Acting Dean of the University of Illinois College of Law Mafia School sent a public bootlicking letter to Chancellor Wise {sic!} fully supporting her persecution of the Palestinian/Arab Steven Salaita and his Family. Such is the First Amendment and "freedom of speech" at the University of Illinois Mafia Law School. Don't be fooled by anything these 3 Illinois/Yale/Laws Mafioso Profs tell you on this panel. Caveat emptor! Fab. From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (Voice) 217-244-1478 (Fax) __._,_.___ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:14 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh I dedicate my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" to Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} in the name of "civility." fab. Script for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! produced by Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law So here we are at Memorial Stadium on a beautiful Fall Saturday afternoon during the Michigan-Illiniwak Football Game. There are 77,000 drunken fans here and the game is covered nationwide and live by CBS TV. For the drunken fans on the radio, Jim Turpin of the News-Gazoo/ WDWS Illiniwak Media Empire attempts and fumbles the play-by-play calls. It is half-time. Time for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle. So here goes: 1. The Marching Illiniwak Drum/Dumb Corps take the field at Memorial stadium and proceed to strike up the special Illiniwak drumbeat that I had previously composed for them, all saying in unison over the gigantic stadium sound speaker system: dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb This special dumb-beat continues ad nauseam throughout the performance. 2. Now, out comes the rest of the University of Illiniwak's "Marching Illiniwak" band and strikes up the music for the famous pop song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight." 3. Then, out comes the University of Illiniwak's Glee Club and sings my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" over a special microphone/amplification system fed through the gigantic stadium speakers so that everyone can hear the magnificent lyrics: The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight by Francis A. Boyle Hush my Illiniwaks , my little Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Hush my Illiniwaks, my quiet Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. The Mighty Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! The Glee Club repeats these lyrics ad nauseam throughout the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! 4. Next the Marching Illiniwaks execute their famous "Three-in-One" Illiniwak March. 5. Now the most electrifying moment in sports history: Little Red Sambo Himself, Chief Illiniwak, runs through the band, pops out, and does his little jig at mid-field. 6. Finally, all 77,000 people in the stadium begin to chant in unison and in time with the band and the Glee Club, adding in for emphasis,support, and of course dignity, their "Tomahawk chops": Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Repeated ad nauseam. This magnificent "Chief Illiniwak Spectacle" will of course be shown nation-wide to an audience of tens of millions of football fans and admirers of our "flagship" State University in the Great State of Illiniwaks: The University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign! Home of the the Marching Illiniwaks Band and their Official Mascot, Chief Illiniwak, Little Red Sambo Himself. Certainly the type of University you want to send your children to--unless they are Native American, African American, Asian American, Latino/a, or Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims of Color. F.A.B. * Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:02 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And speaking of "free speech" on this campus, here is my Response to the Statement on "civility" by Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!}. fab. The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illiniwaks The Principles on Which We Stand At the University of Illiniwaks: The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Long Live Chief Illiniwak! Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol For the University of Illiniwaks And Illiniwaks all over the world! Illiniwak Pride! Illiniwak Fever! The Daily Illiniwak Illiniwaks Yearbooks Illiniwaks Homecoming Our Redskin Tradition Eagle Feathers too Illiniwak Stadium Our Illiniwakettes Our Fighting Illiniwaks Illiniwak Cheerleaders Our Marching Illiniwaks Band Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Oskee! Bow! Wow! Just Honoring American Indians Not demeaning anyone Nor meaning them too All very civil How White of us all! The University of Illiniwaks Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! And racists to boot Genocidaires too So very educational The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Anthro 101 A required course To get our degrees >From the University of Illiniwaks Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:23 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh One other point on this matter. After a long struggle by our student body and our Community, the University of Illinois Board of Trustees did DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. By contrast, the University of Chicago adamantly and proudly REFUSED TO DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. This is because the University of Chicago has always been a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Black People including African Americans living around the University of Chicago upon whom UChicago has and continues to practice Urban Apartheid, Ethnic Cleansing and Lebensraum. QED Fab. AB, UChicago 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:25 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 548384 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 9 21:18:33 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 21:18:33 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Come to think about it, and putting this all together: Ever since our Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler (circa 2000), the Illiniwak Mafia Law School has been as corrupt and incompetent as our Illiniwak Football Team. Hence last year we were Ranked No. 47. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:36 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Below the "civility" of Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} and Fired and Disgraced President Whitey and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heide Hurd and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Criticized Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler at the University of Illiniwaks. And now comes the Yale Law Mafia Resident Faculty War Criminal Harold Killer Koh to speak at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School on the proper Role for Lawyers to play in Government Service on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later at the invitation of our newest Yale Law Mafia Dean, with our previous Yale Law Mafia Dean Bruce Smith being Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned. At the University of Illinois Mafia Law School: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH WE ALL LOVE BIG BROTHER REAGAN WAS PRESIDENT IN 1984 KILLER KOH WORKED FOR REAGAN FROM 1983 TO 1985 Fab. -----Original Message----- From: CERJ at igc.org [mailto:CERJ at igc.org] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:57 AM To: CERJ at igc.org Subject: Yet Another Racist Mascot The Racist Mascot from Urbana-Champaign: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois by Francis Boyle The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the January 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for the Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his "Year 501: The Conquest Continues" (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on t his campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews", and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago, the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to " Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time, the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him. Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in, and that culminates with the band being organized into a swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews form themselves into a swastika. By now, all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming and yelling: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi." This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out o f the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat, the former Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says:"We are honoring the Jews" ... whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. Historically, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, its Boards of Trustees, its Presidents, its Chancellors, its Provosts, its Deans, Directors and Department Heads, and most of its Faculty and Alumni/ae have always been the Ku Klux Klan dressed up in Caps and Gowns instead of Hoods and Sheets. [Francis A. Boyle is a distinguished Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois' Champaign-Urbana campus.] ========================================= COLLEGIUM IUSTITIÆ ÆQUITATEM RESTITUENTI +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ John Woolman College of Equity-Restorative Justice Peacemaking and Conflict Transformation [CERJ] c/o John Wilmerding > 217 High Street, Brattleboro, VT, USA 05301-6073 Phone: (01)-802-254-2826 Email to: CERJ at igc.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "... where Quakers and revolutionaries join for life ..." -- Laura Nyro, from 'New York Tendaberry', 1969 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:03 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Here is my letter to Fired and Disgraced President Whitey in the name of "civility". Acting at Whitey's behest our Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd then denied me a pay raise. If you want to exercise your "free speech rights" on this campus, you have to pay a price. That is how Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} got us on the AAUP Censure List for her bigoted and racist persecution of the Palestinian/Arab of Color Steven Salaita and his Family. In that regard, the previous Acting Dean of the University of Illinois College of Law Mafia School sent a public bootlicking letter to Chancellor Wise {sic!} fully supporting her persecution of the Palestinian/Arab Steven Salaita and his Family. Such is the First Amendment and "freedom of speech" at the University of Illinois Mafia Law School. Don't be fooled by anything these 3 Illinois/Yale/Laws Mafioso Profs tell you on this panel. Caveat emptor! Fab. From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (Voice) 217-244-1478 (Fax) __._,_.___ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:14 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh I dedicate my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" to Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} in the name of "civility." fab. Script for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! produced by Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law So here we are at Memorial Stadium on a beautiful Fall Saturday afternoon during the Michigan-Illiniwak Football Game. There are 77,000 drunken fans here and the game is covered nationwide and live by CBS TV. For the drunken fans on the radio, Jim Turpin of the News-Gazoo/ WDWS Illiniwak Media Empire attempts and fumbles the play-by-play calls. It is half-time. Time for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle. So here goes: 1. The Marching Illiniwak Drum/Dumb Corps take the field at Memorial stadium and proceed to strike up the special Illiniwak drumbeat that I had previously composed for them, all saying in unison over the gigantic stadium sound speaker system: dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb This special dumb-beat continues ad nauseam throughout the performance. 2. Now, out comes the rest of the University of Illiniwak's "Marching Illiniwak" band and strikes up the music for the famous pop song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight." 3. Then, out comes the University of Illiniwak's Glee Club and sings my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" over a special microphone/amplification system fed through the gigantic stadium speakers so that everyone can hear the magnificent lyrics: The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight by Francis A. Boyle Hush my Illiniwaks , my little Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Hush my Illiniwaks, my quiet Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. The Mighty Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! The Glee Club repeats these lyrics ad nauseam throughout the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! 4. Next the Marching Illiniwaks execute their famous "Three-in-One" Illiniwak March. 5. Now the most electrifying moment in sports history: Little Red Sambo Himself, Chief Illiniwak, runs through the band, pops out, and does his little jig at mid-field. 6. Finally, all 77,000 people in the stadium begin to chant in unison and in time with the band and the Glee Club, adding in for emphasis,support, and of course dignity, their "Tomahawk chops": Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Repeated ad nauseam. This magnificent "Chief Illiniwak Spectacle" will of course be shown nation-wide to an audience of tens of millions of football fans and admirers of our "flagship" State University in the Great State of Illiniwaks: The University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign! Home of the the Marching Illiniwaks Band and their Official Mascot, Chief Illiniwak, Little Red Sambo Himself. Certainly the type of University you want to send your children to--unless they are Native American, African American, Asian American, Latino/a, or Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims of Color. F.A.B. * Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:02 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And speaking of "free speech" on this campus, here is my Response to the Statement on "civility" by Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!}. fab. The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illiniwaks The Principles on Which We Stand At the University of Illiniwaks: The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Long Live Chief Illiniwak! Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol For the University of Illiniwaks And Illiniwaks all over the world! Illiniwak Pride! Illiniwak Fever! The Daily Illiniwak Illiniwaks Yearbooks Illiniwaks Homecoming Our Redskin Tradition Eagle Feathers too Illiniwak Stadium Our Illiniwakettes Our Fighting Illiniwaks Illiniwak Cheerleaders Our Marching Illiniwaks Band Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Oskee! Bow! Wow! Just Honoring American Indians Not demeaning anyone Nor meaning them too All very civil How White of us all! The University of Illiniwaks Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! And racists to boot Genocidaires too So very educational The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Anthro 101 A required course To get our degrees >From the University of Illiniwaks Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:23 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh One other point on this matter. After a long struggle by our student body and our Community, the University of Illinois Board of Trustees did DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. By contrast, the University of Chicago adamantly and proudly REFUSED TO DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. This is because the University of Chicago has always been a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Black People including African Americans living around the University of Chicago upon whom UChicago has and continues to practice Urban Apartheid, Ethnic Cleansing and Lebensraum. QED Fab. AB, UChicago 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:25 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! 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Someone on the Faculty just told me that this year our Yale Law Mafia Illiniwak Dean--who invited Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Killer Koh to come in here and Campaign for Yale Law Mafia Killary to get elected president 10 days later-- admitted FIVE (5) African American Law Students??? I hope to get the figure officially late next week sometime from the Diversity Committee. But in the meantime maybe someone can ask him at the Panel and post it. Straight from the Horse's Mouth. Oskee! Bow! Wow! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:19 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Come to think about it, and putting this all together: Ever since our Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler (circa 2000), the Illiniwak Mafia Law School has been as corrupt and incompetent as our Illiniwak Football Team. Hence last year we were Ranked No. 47. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:36 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Below the "civility" of Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} and Fired and Disgraced President Whitey and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heide Hurd and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Criticized Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler at the University of Illiniwaks. And now comes the Yale Law Mafia Resident Faculty War Criminal Harold Killer Koh to speak at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School on the proper Role for Lawyers to play in Government Service on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later at the invitation of our newest Yale Law Mafia Dean, with our previous Yale Law Mafia Dean Bruce Smith being Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned. At the University of Illinois Mafia Law School: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH WE ALL LOVE BIG BROTHER REAGAN WAS PRESIDENT IN 1984 KILLER KOH WORKED FOR REAGAN FROM 1983 TO 1985 Fab. -----Original Message----- From: CERJ at igc.org [mailto:CERJ at igc.org] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:57 AM To: CERJ at igc.org Subject: Yet Another Racist Mascot The Racist Mascot from Urbana-Champaign: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois by Francis Boyle The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the January 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for the Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his "Year 501: The Conquest Continues" (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on t his campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews", and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago, the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to " Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time, the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him. Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in, and that culminates with the band being organized into a swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews form themselves into a swastika. By now, all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming and yelling: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi." This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out o f the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat, the former Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says:"We are honoring the Jews" ... whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. Historically, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, its Boards of Trustees, its Presidents, its Chancellors, its Provosts, its Deans, Directors and Department Heads, and most of its Faculty and Alumni/ae have always been the Ku Klux Klan dressed up in Caps and Gowns instead of Hoods and Sheets. [Francis A. Boyle is a distinguished Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois' Champaign-Urbana campus.] ========================================= COLLEGIUM IUSTITIÆ ÆQUITATEM RESTITUENTI +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ John Woolman College of Equity-Restorative Justice Peacemaking and Conflict Transformation [CERJ] c/o John Wilmerding > 217 High Street, Brattleboro, VT, USA 05301-6073 Phone: (01)-802-254-2826 Email to: CERJ at igc.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "... where Quakers and revolutionaries join for life ..." -- Laura Nyro, from 'New York Tendaberry', 1969 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:03 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Here is my letter to Fired and Disgraced President Whitey in the name of "civility". Acting at Whitey's behest our Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd then denied me a pay raise. If you want to exercise your "free speech rights" on this campus, you have to pay a price. That is how Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} got us on the AAUP Censure List for her bigoted and racist persecution of the Palestinian/Arab of Color Steven Salaita and his Family. In that regard, the previous Acting Dean of the University of Illinois College of Law Mafia School sent a public bootlicking letter to Chancellor Wise {sic!} fully supporting her persecution of the Palestinian/Arab Steven Salaita and his Family. Such is the First Amendment and "freedom of speech" at the University of Illinois Mafia Law School. Don't be fooled by anything these 3 Illinois/Yale/Laws Mafioso Profs tell you on this panel. Caveat emptor! Fab. From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (Voice) 217-244-1478 (Fax) __._,_.___ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:14 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh I dedicate my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" to Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} in the name of "civility." fab. Script for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! produced by Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law So here we are at Memorial Stadium on a beautiful Fall Saturday afternoon during the Michigan-Illiniwak Football Game. There are 77,000 drunken fans here and the game is covered nationwide and live by CBS TV. For the drunken fans on the radio, Jim Turpin of the News-Gazoo/ WDWS Illiniwak Media Empire attempts and fumbles the play-by-play calls. It is half-time. Time for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle. So here goes: 1. The Marching Illiniwak Drum/Dumb Corps take the field at Memorial stadium and proceed to strike up the special Illiniwak drumbeat that I had previously composed for them, all saying in unison over the gigantic stadium sound speaker system: dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb This special dumb-beat continues ad nauseam throughout the performance. 2. Now, out comes the rest of the University of Illiniwak's "Marching Illiniwak" band and strikes up the music for the famous pop song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight." 3. Then, out comes the University of Illiniwak's Glee Club and sings my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" over a special microphone/amplification system fed through the gigantic stadium speakers so that everyone can hear the magnificent lyrics: The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight by Francis A. Boyle Hush my Illiniwaks , my little Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Hush my Illiniwaks, my quiet Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. The Mighty Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! The Glee Club repeats these lyrics ad nauseam throughout the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! 4. Next the Marching Illiniwaks execute their famous "Three-in-One" Illiniwak March. 5. Now the most electrifying moment in sports history: Little Red Sambo Himself, Chief Illiniwak, runs through the band, pops out, and does his little jig at mid-field. 6. Finally, all 77,000 people in the stadium begin to chant in unison and in time with the band and the Glee Club, adding in for emphasis,support, and of course dignity, their "Tomahawk chops": Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Repeated ad nauseam. This magnificent "Chief Illiniwak Spectacle" will of course be shown nation-wide to an audience of tens of millions of football fans and admirers of our "flagship" State University in the Great State of Illiniwaks: The University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign! Home of the the Marching Illiniwaks Band and their Official Mascot, Chief Illiniwak, Little Red Sambo Himself. Certainly the type of University you want to send your children to--unless they are Native American, African American, Asian American, Latino/a, or Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims of Color. F.A.B. * Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:02 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And speaking of "free speech" on this campus, here is my Response to the Statement on "civility" by Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!}. fab. The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illiniwaks The Principles on Which We Stand At the University of Illiniwaks: The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Long Live Chief Illiniwak! Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol For the University of Illiniwaks And Illiniwaks all over the world! Illiniwak Pride! Illiniwak Fever! The Daily Illiniwak Illiniwaks Yearbooks Illiniwaks Homecoming Our Redskin Tradition Eagle Feathers too Illiniwak Stadium Our Illiniwakettes Our Fighting Illiniwaks Illiniwak Cheerleaders Our Marching Illiniwaks Band Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Oskee! Bow! Wow! Just Honoring American Indians Not demeaning anyone Nor meaning them too All very civil How White of us all! The University of Illiniwaks Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! And racists to boot Genocidaires too So very educational The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Anthro 101 A required course To get our degrees >From the University of Illiniwaks Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:23 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh One other point on this matter. After a long struggle by our student body and our Community, the University of Illinois Board of Trustees did DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. By contrast, the University of Chicago adamantly and proudly REFUSED TO DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. This is because the University of Chicago has always been a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Black People including African Americans living around the University of Chicago upon whom UChicago has and continues to practice Urban Apartheid, Ethnic Cleansing and Lebensraum. QED Fab. AB, UChicago 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:25 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! 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You have no idea how much TRAUMA Mengeler's genocidal malice inflicted upon my student. Plus ca change....at the Illiniwak Mafia School of Law. OSKEE! BOW! WOW! DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:51 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Concerning this panel where these 3 Illiniwak/Yale Law Faculty Mafioso are going to be pontificating about "free speech on campus" maybe someone could ask them how many African Americans they admitted to the Chief Illiniwak Mafia Law School this year. Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd deliberately gutted our Affirmative Action Program for African Americans about 14 years ago. Someone on the Faculty just told me that this year our Yale Law Mafia Illiniwak Dean--who invited Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Killer Koh to come in here and Campaign for Yale Law Mafia Killary to get elected president 10 days later-- admitted FIVE (5) African American Law Students??? I hope to get the figure officially late next week sometime from the Diversity Committee. But in the meantime maybe someone can ask him at the Panel and post it. Straight from the Horse's Mouth. Oskee! Bow! Wow! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:19 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Come to think about it, and putting this all together: Ever since our Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler (circa 2000), the Illiniwak Mafia Law School has been as corrupt and incompetent as our Illiniwak Football Team. Hence last year we were Ranked No. 47. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:36 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Below the "civility" of Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} and Fired and Disgraced President Whitey and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heide Hurd and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Criticized Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler at the University of Illiniwaks. And now comes the Yale Law Mafia Resident Faculty War Criminal Harold Killer Koh to speak at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School on the proper Role for Lawyers to play in Government Service on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later at the invitation of our newest Yale Law Mafia Dean, with our previous Yale Law Mafia Dean Bruce Smith being Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned. At the University of Illinois Mafia Law School: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH WE ALL LOVE BIG BROTHER REAGAN WAS PRESIDENT IN 1984 KILLER KOH WORKED FOR REAGAN FROM 1983 TO 1985 Fab. -----Original Message----- From: CERJ at igc.org [mailto:CERJ at igc.org] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:57 AM To: CERJ at igc.org Subject: Yet Another Racist Mascot The Racist Mascot from Urbana-Champaign: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois by Francis Boyle The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the January 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for the Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his "Year 501: The Conquest Continues" (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on t his campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews", and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago, the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to " Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time, the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him. Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in, and that culminates with the band being organized into a swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews form themselves into a swastika. By now, all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming and yelling: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi." This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out o f the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat, the former Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says:"We are honoring the Jews" ... whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. Historically, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, its Boards of Trustees, its Presidents, its Chancellors, its Provosts, its Deans, Directors and Department Heads, and most of its Faculty and Alumni/ae have always been the Ku Klux Klan dressed up in Caps and Gowns instead of Hoods and Sheets. [Francis A. Boyle is a distinguished Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois' Champaign-Urbana campus.] ========================================= COLLEGIUM IUSTITIÆ ÆQUITATEM RESTITUENTI +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ John Woolman College of Equity-Restorative Justice Peacemaking and Conflict Transformation [CERJ] c/o John Wilmerding > 217 High Street, Brattleboro, VT, USA 05301-6073 Phone: (01)-802-254-2826 Email to: CERJ at igc.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "... where Quakers and revolutionaries join for life ..." -- Laura Nyro, from 'New York Tendaberry', 1969 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:03 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Here is my letter to Fired and Disgraced President Whitey in the name of "civility". Acting at Whitey's behest our Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd then denied me a pay raise. If you want to exercise your "free speech rights" on this campus, you have to pay a price. That is how Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} got us on the AAUP Censure List for her bigoted and racist persecution of the Palestinian/Arab of Color Steven Salaita and his Family. In that regard, the previous Acting Dean of the University of Illinois College of Law Mafia School sent a public bootlicking letter to Chancellor Wise {sic!} fully supporting her persecution of the Palestinian/Arab Steven Salaita and his Family. Such is the First Amendment and "freedom of speech" at the University of Illinois Mafia Law School. Don't be fooled by anything these 3 Illinois/Yale/Laws Mafioso Profs tell you on this panel. Caveat emptor! Fab. From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (Voice) 217-244-1478 (Fax) __._,_.___ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:14 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh I dedicate my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" to Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} in the name of "civility." fab. Script for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! produced by Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law So here we are at Memorial Stadium on a beautiful Fall Saturday afternoon during the Michigan-Illiniwak Football Game. There are 77,000 drunken fans here and the game is covered nationwide and live by CBS TV. For the drunken fans on the radio, Jim Turpin of the News-Gazoo/ WDWS Illiniwak Media Empire attempts and fumbles the play-by-play calls. It is half-time. Time for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle. So here goes: 1. The Marching Illiniwak Drum/Dumb Corps take the field at Memorial stadium and proceed to strike up the special Illiniwak drumbeat that I had previously composed for them, all saying in unison over the gigantic stadium sound speaker system: dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb This special dumb-beat continues ad nauseam throughout the performance. 2. Now, out comes the rest of the University of Illiniwak's "Marching Illiniwak" band and strikes up the music for the famous pop song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight." 3. Then, out comes the University of Illiniwak's Glee Club and sings my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" over a special microphone/amplification system fed through the gigantic stadium speakers so that everyone can hear the magnificent lyrics: The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight by Francis A. Boyle Hush my Illiniwaks , my little Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Hush my Illiniwaks, my quiet Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. The Mighty Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! The Glee Club repeats these lyrics ad nauseam throughout the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! 4. Next the Marching Illiniwaks execute their famous "Three-in-One" Illiniwak March. 5. Now the most electrifying moment in sports history: Little Red Sambo Himself, Chief Illiniwak, runs through the band, pops out, and does his little jig at mid-field. 6. Finally, all 77,000 people in the stadium begin to chant in unison and in time with the band and the Glee Club, adding in for emphasis,support, and of course dignity, their "Tomahawk chops": Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Repeated ad nauseam. This magnificent "Chief Illiniwak Spectacle" will of course be shown nation-wide to an audience of tens of millions of football fans and admirers of our "flagship" State University in the Great State of Illiniwaks: The University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign! Home of the the Marching Illiniwaks Band and their Official Mascot, Chief Illiniwak, Little Red Sambo Himself. Certainly the type of University you want to send your children to--unless they are Native American, African American, Asian American, Latino/a, or Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims of Color. F.A.B. * Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:02 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And speaking of "free speech" on this campus, here is my Response to the Statement on "civility" by Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!}. fab. The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illiniwaks The Principles on Which We Stand At the University of Illiniwaks: The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Long Live Chief Illiniwak! Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol For the University of Illiniwaks And Illiniwaks all over the world! Illiniwak Pride! Illiniwak Fever! The Daily Illiniwak Illiniwaks Yearbooks Illiniwaks Homecoming Our Redskin Tradition Eagle Feathers too Illiniwak Stadium Our Illiniwakettes Our Fighting Illiniwaks Illiniwak Cheerleaders Our Marching Illiniwaks Band Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Oskee! Bow! Wow! Just Honoring American Indians Not demeaning anyone Nor meaning them too All very civil How White of us all! The University of Illiniwaks Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! And racists to boot Genocidaires too So very educational The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Anthro 101 A required course To get our degrees >From the University of Illiniwaks Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:23 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh One other point on this matter. After a long struggle by our student body and our Community, the University of Illinois Board of Trustees did DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. By contrast, the University of Chicago adamantly and proudly REFUSED TO DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. This is because the University of Chicago has always been a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Black People including African Americans living around the University of Chicago upon whom UChicago has and continues to practice Urban Apartheid, Ethnic Cleansing and Lebensraum. QED Fab. AB, UChicago 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:25 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) View event details. [cid:image001.png at 01D20ABB.6E56F380] Following the lecture, consider attending the "Free Speech on Campus" panel discussion at the Illini Union, Room A. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 548384 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Sep 10 01:16:59 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 01:16:59 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Message-ID: 1. When you get an answer from Dean Amar about why he only admitted 5 (?) African American Law students this year please convey it to our new incoming Chancellor who is African American. 2. You should also ask Dean Amar why he invited Killer Koh in here to speak on behalf of getting Killary elected President 10 days later when Killer Koh works for the Killary Presidential election campaign and there is an Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of University Resources for such partisan electoral purposes-even one Email has been sanctioned by the Illinois Inspector General. 3. As for his Brother Akhil Amar, you should ask him why he went out of his way to join up with a vicious Gang of Law Professors and Lawyers Thugs in support of Killer Koh in order to terrorize and intimidate a handful of powerless and most vulnerable NYU Law students into silence from protesting Killer Koh at NYU Law School in violation of their "free speech rights" on the NYU Campus when he Akhil Amar had nothing at all to do with the NYU Law Campus? Thanks. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:17 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And "how many African American Law Students were admitted this year" would be a perfect question to ask our Illiniwak Yale Law Mafia Dean at the panel because co-panelist Jim Wilson is President Killeen's Pointman for achieving Diversity on this Campus. Maybe Jim could start with the Illiniwak/Yale Mafia Law School? Our Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Mengeler commissioned a Specially Engraved Wooden Image of Chief Illiniwak that he hung in his office window over the Main Entrance to the Law Building just in order to insult my one American Indian Law Student in my International Human Rights Law Class. You have no idea how much TRAUMA Mengeler's genocidal malice inflicted upon my student. Plus ca change....at the Illiniwak Mafia School of Law. OSKEE! BOW! WOW! DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:51 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Concerning this panel where these 3 Illiniwak/Yale Law Faculty Mafioso are going to be pontificating about "free speech on campus" maybe someone could ask them how many African Americans they admitted to the Chief Illiniwak Mafia Law School this year. Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd deliberately gutted our Affirmative Action Program for African Americans about 14 years ago. Someone on the Faculty just told me that this year our Yale Law Mafia Illiniwak Dean--who invited Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Killer Koh to come in here and Campaign for Yale Law Mafia Killary to get elected president 10 days later-- admitted FIVE (5) African American Law Students??? I hope to get the figure officially late next week sometime from the Diversity Committee. But in the meantime maybe someone can ask him at the Panel and post it. Straight from the Horse's Mouth. Oskee! Bow! Wow! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:19 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Come to think about it, and putting this all together: Ever since our Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler (circa 2000), the Illiniwak Mafia Law School has been as corrupt and incompetent as our Illiniwak Football Team. Hence last year we were Ranked No. 47. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:36 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Below the "civility" of Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} and Fired and Disgraced President Whitey and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heide Hurd and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Criticized Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler at the University of Illiniwaks. And now comes the Yale Law Mafia Resident Faculty War Criminal Harold Killer Koh to speak at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School on the proper Role for Lawyers to play in Government Service on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later at the invitation of our newest Yale Law Mafia Dean, with our previous Yale Law Mafia Dean Bruce Smith being Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned. At the University of Illinois Mafia Law School: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH WE ALL LOVE BIG BROTHER REAGAN WAS PRESIDENT IN 1984 KILLER KOH WORKED FOR REAGAN FROM 1983 TO 1985 Fab. -----Original Message----- From: CERJ at igc.org [mailto:CERJ at igc.org] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:57 AM To: CERJ at igc.org Subject: Yet Another Racist Mascot The Racist Mascot from Urbana-Champaign: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois by Francis Boyle The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the January 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for the Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his "Year 501: The Conquest Continues" (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on t his campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews", and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago, the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to " Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time, the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him. Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in, and that culminates with the band being organized into a swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews form themselves into a swastika. By now, all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming and yelling: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi." This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out o f the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat, the former Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says:"We are honoring the Jews" ... whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. Historically, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, its Boards of Trustees, its Presidents, its Chancellors, its Provosts, its Deans, Directors and Department Heads, and most of its Faculty and Alumni/ae have always been the Ku Klux Klan dressed up in Caps and Gowns instead of Hoods and Sheets. [Francis A. Boyle is a distinguished Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois' Champaign-Urbana campus.] ========================================= COLLEGIUM IUSTITIÆ ÆQUITATEM RESTITUENTI +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ John Woolman College of Equity-Restorative Justice Peacemaking and Conflict Transformation [CERJ] c/o John Wilmerding > 217 High Street, Brattleboro, VT, USA 05301-6073 Phone: (01)-802-254-2826 Email to: CERJ at igc.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "... where Quakers and revolutionaries join for life ..." -- Laura Nyro, from 'New York Tendaberry', 1969 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:03 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Here is my letter to Fired and Disgraced President Whitey in the name of "civility". Acting at Whitey's behest our Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd then denied me a pay raise. If you want to exercise your "free speech rights" on this campus, you have to pay a price. That is how Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} got us on the AAUP Censure List for her bigoted and racist persecution of the Palestinian/Arab of Color Steven Salaita and his Family. In that regard, the previous Acting Dean of the University of Illinois College of Law Mafia School sent a public bootlicking letter to Chancellor Wise {sic!} fully supporting her persecution of the Palestinian/Arab Steven Salaita and his Family. Such is the First Amendment and "freedom of speech" at the University of Illinois Mafia Law School. Don't be fooled by anything these 3 Illinois/Yale/Laws Mafioso Profs tell you on this panel. Caveat emptor! Fab. From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (Voice) 217-244-1478 (Fax) __._,_.___ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:14 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh I dedicate my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" to Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} in the name of "civility." fab. Script for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! produced by Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law So here we are at Memorial Stadium on a beautiful Fall Saturday afternoon during the Michigan-Illiniwak Football Game. There are 77,000 drunken fans here and the game is covered nationwide and live by CBS TV. For the drunken fans on the radio, Jim Turpin of the News-Gazoo/ WDWS Illiniwak Media Empire attempts and fumbles the play-by-play calls. It is half-time. Time for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle. So here goes: 1. The Marching Illiniwak Drum/Dumb Corps take the field at Memorial stadium and proceed to strike up the special Illiniwak drumbeat that I had previously composed for them, all saying in unison over the gigantic stadium sound speaker system: dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb This special dumb-beat continues ad nauseam throughout the performance. 2. Now, out comes the rest of the University of Illiniwak's "Marching Illiniwak" band and strikes up the music for the famous pop song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight." 3. Then, out comes the University of Illiniwak's Glee Club and sings my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" over a special microphone/amplification system fed through the gigantic stadium speakers so that everyone can hear the magnificent lyrics: The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight by Francis A. Boyle Hush my Illiniwaks , my little Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Hush my Illiniwaks, my quiet Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. The Mighty Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! The Glee Club repeats these lyrics ad nauseam throughout the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! 4. Next the Marching Illiniwaks execute their famous "Three-in-One" Illiniwak March. 5. Now the most electrifying moment in sports history: Little Red Sambo Himself, Chief Illiniwak, runs through the band, pops out, and does his little jig at mid-field. 6. Finally, all 77,000 people in the stadium begin to chant in unison and in time with the band and the Glee Club, adding in for emphasis,support, and of course dignity, their "Tomahawk chops": Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Repeated ad nauseam. This magnificent "Chief Illiniwak Spectacle" will of course be shown nation-wide to an audience of tens of millions of football fans and admirers of our "flagship" State University in the Great State of Illiniwaks: The University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign! Home of the the Marching Illiniwaks Band and their Official Mascot, Chief Illiniwak, Little Red Sambo Himself. Certainly the type of University you want to send your children to--unless they are Native American, African American, Asian American, Latino/a, or Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims of Color. F.A.B. * Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:02 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And speaking of "free speech" on this campus, here is my Response to the Statement on "civility" by Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!}. fab. The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illiniwaks The Principles on Which We Stand At the University of Illiniwaks: The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Long Live Chief Illiniwak! Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol For the University of Illiniwaks And Illiniwaks all over the world! Illiniwak Pride! Illiniwak Fever! The Daily Illiniwak Illiniwaks Yearbooks Illiniwaks Homecoming Our Redskin Tradition Eagle Feathers too Illiniwak Stadium Our Illiniwakettes Our Fighting Illiniwaks Illiniwak Cheerleaders Our Marching Illiniwaks Band Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Oskee! Bow! Wow! Just Honoring American Indians Not demeaning anyone Nor meaning them too All very civil How White of us all! The University of Illiniwaks Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! And racists to boot Genocidaires too So very educational The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Anthro 101 A required course To get our degrees >From the University of Illiniwaks Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:23 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh One other point on this matter. After a long struggle by our student body and our Community, the University of Illinois Board of Trustees did DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. By contrast, the University of Chicago adamantly and proudly REFUSED TO DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. This is because the University of Chicago has always been a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Black People including African Americans living around the University of Chicago upon whom UChicago has and continues to practice Urban Apartheid, Ethnic Cleansing and Lebensraum. QED Fab. AB, UChicago 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:25 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) View event details. [cid:image001.png at 01D20AD6.8212B970] Following the lecture, consider attending the "Free Speech on Campus" panel discussion at the Illini Union, Room A. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 548384 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Sep 10 10:54:07 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 10:54:07 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Sick & Demented-- 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Message-ID: Remember at the Panel on Thursday. These people are bringing Killer Koh onto this Campus. Killer Koh mercilessly exterminated by drone murders 5000+ Muslims/Arabs/Asians Men, Women and Children of Color. Killer Koh destroyed Libya and the Libyans. Killer Koh destroyed Syria and the Syrians. They are all sick and demented. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 8:17 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Importance: High 1. When you get an answer from Dean Amar about why he only admitted 5 (?) African American Law students this year please convey it to our new incoming Chancellor who is African American. 2. You should also ask Dean Amar why he invited Killer Koh in here to speak on behalf of getting Killary elected President 10 days later when Killer Koh works for the Killary Presidential election campaign and there is an Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of University Resources for such partisan electoral purposes-even one Email has been sanctioned by the Illinois Inspector General. 3. As for his Brother Akhil Amar, you should ask him why he went out of his way to join up with a vicious Gang of Law Professors and Lawyers Thugs in support of Killer Koh in order to terrorize and intimidate a handful of powerless and most vulnerable NYU Law students into silence from protesting Killer Koh at NYU Law School in violation of their "free speech rights" on the NYU Campus when he Akhil Amar had nothing at all to do with the NYU Law Campus? Thanks. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:17 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And "how many African American Law Students were admitted this year" would be a perfect question to ask our Illiniwak Yale Law Mafia Dean at the panel because co-panelist Jim Wilson is President Killeen's Pointman for achieving Diversity on this Campus. Maybe Jim could start with the Illiniwak/Yale Mafia Law School? Our Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Mengeler commissioned a Specially Engraved Wooden Image of Chief Illiniwak that he hung in his office window over the Main Entrance to the Law Building just in order to insult my one American Indian Law Student in my International Human Rights Law Class. You have no idea how much TRAUMA Mengeler's genocidal malice inflicted upon my student. Plus ca change....at the Illiniwak Mafia School of Law. OSKEE! BOW! WOW! DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:51 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Concerning this panel where these 3 Illiniwak/Yale Law Faculty Mafioso are going to be pontificating about "free speech on campus" maybe someone could ask them how many African Americans they admitted to the Chief Illiniwak Mafia Law School this year. Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd deliberately gutted our Affirmative Action Program for African Americans about 14 years ago. Someone on the Faculty just told me that this year our Yale Law Mafia Illiniwak Dean--who invited Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Killer Koh to come in here and Campaign for Yale Law Mafia Killary to get elected president 10 days later-- admitted FIVE (5) African American Law Students??? I hope to get the figure officially late next week sometime from the Diversity Committee. But in the meantime maybe someone can ask him at the Panel and post it. Straight from the Horse's Mouth. Oskee! Bow! Wow! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:19 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Come to think about it, and putting this all together: Ever since our Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler (circa 2000), the Illiniwak Mafia Law School has been as corrupt and incompetent as our Illiniwak Football Team. Hence last year we were Ranked No. 47. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:36 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Below the "civility" of Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} and Fired and Disgraced President Whitey and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heide Hurd and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Criticized Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler at the University of Illiniwaks. And now comes the Yale Law Mafia Resident Faculty War Criminal Harold Killer Koh to speak at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School on the proper Role for Lawyers to play in Government Service on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later at the invitation of our newest Yale Law Mafia Dean, with our previous Yale Law Mafia Dean Bruce Smith being Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned. At the University of Illinois Mafia Law School: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH WE ALL LOVE BIG BROTHER REAGAN WAS PRESIDENT IN 1984 KILLER KOH WORKED FOR REAGAN FROM 1983 TO 1985 Fab. -----Original Message----- From: CERJ at igc.org [mailto:CERJ at igc.org] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:57 AM To: CERJ at igc.org Subject: Yet Another Racist Mascot The Racist Mascot from Urbana-Champaign: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois by Francis Boyle The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the January 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for the Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his "Year 501: The Conquest Continues" (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on t his campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews", and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago, the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to " Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time, the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him. Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in, and that culminates with the band being organized into a swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews form themselves into a swastika. By now, all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming and yelling: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi." This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out o f the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat, the former Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says:"We are honoring the Jews" ... whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. Historically, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, its Boards of Trustees, its Presidents, its Chancellors, its Provosts, its Deans, Directors and Department Heads, and most of its Faculty and Alumni/ae have always been the Ku Klux Klan dressed up in Caps and Gowns instead of Hoods and Sheets. [Francis A. Boyle is a distinguished Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois' Champaign-Urbana campus.] ========================================= COLLEGIUM IUSTITIÆ ÆQUITATEM RESTITUENTI +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ John Woolman College of Equity-Restorative Justice Peacemaking and Conflict Transformation [CERJ] c/o John Wilmerding > 217 High Street, Brattleboro, VT, USA 05301-6073 Phone: (01)-802-254-2826 Email to: CERJ at igc.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "... where Quakers and revolutionaries join for life ..." -- Laura Nyro, from 'New York Tendaberry', 1969 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:03 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Here is my letter to Fired and Disgraced President Whitey in the name of "civility". Acting at Whitey's behest our Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd then denied me a pay raise. If you want to exercise your "free speech rights" on this campus, you have to pay a price. That is how Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} got us on the AAUP Censure List for her bigoted and racist persecution of the Palestinian/Arab of Color Steven Salaita and his Family. In that regard, the previous Acting Dean of the University of Illinois College of Law Mafia School sent a public bootlicking letter to Chancellor Wise {sic!} fully supporting her persecution of the Palestinian/Arab Steven Salaita and his Family. Such is the First Amendment and "freedom of speech" at the University of Illinois Mafia Law School. Don't be fooled by anything these 3 Illinois/Yale/Laws Mafioso Profs tell you on this panel. Caveat emptor! Fab. From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (Voice) 217-244-1478 (Fax) __._,_.___ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:14 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh I dedicate my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" to Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} in the name of "civility." fab. Script for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! produced by Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law So here we are at Memorial Stadium on a beautiful Fall Saturday afternoon during the Michigan-Illiniwak Football Game. There are 77,000 drunken fans here and the game is covered nationwide and live by CBS TV. For the drunken fans on the radio, Jim Turpin of the News-Gazoo/ WDWS Illiniwak Media Empire attempts and fumbles the play-by-play calls. It is half-time. Time for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle. So here goes: 1. The Marching Illiniwak Drum/Dumb Corps take the field at Memorial stadium and proceed to strike up the special Illiniwak drumbeat that I had previously composed for them, all saying in unison over the gigantic stadium sound speaker system: dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb This special dumb-beat continues ad nauseam throughout the performance. 2. Now, out comes the rest of the University of Illiniwak's "Marching Illiniwak" band and strikes up the music for the famous pop song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight." 3. Then, out comes the University of Illiniwak's Glee Club and sings my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" over a special microphone/amplification system fed through the gigantic stadium speakers so that everyone can hear the magnificent lyrics: The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight by Francis A. Boyle Hush my Illiniwaks , my little Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Hush my Illiniwaks, my quiet Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. The Mighty Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! The Glee Club repeats these lyrics ad nauseam throughout the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! 4. Next the Marching Illiniwaks execute their famous "Three-in-One" Illiniwak March. 5. Now the most electrifying moment in sports history: Little Red Sambo Himself, Chief Illiniwak, runs through the band, pops out, and does his little jig at mid-field. 6. Finally, all 77,000 people in the stadium begin to chant in unison and in time with the band and the Glee Club, adding in for emphasis,support, and of course dignity, their "Tomahawk chops": Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Repeated ad nauseam. This magnificent "Chief Illiniwak Spectacle" will of course be shown nation-wide to an audience of tens of millions of football fans and admirers of our "flagship" State University in the Great State of Illiniwaks: The University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign! Home of the the Marching Illiniwaks Band and their Official Mascot, Chief Illiniwak, Little Red Sambo Himself. Certainly the type of University you want to send your children to--unless they are Native American, African American, Asian American, Latino/a, or Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims of Color. F.A.B. * Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:02 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And speaking of "free speech" on this campus, here is my Response to the Statement on "civility" by Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!}. fab. The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illiniwaks The Principles on Which We Stand At the University of Illiniwaks: The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Long Live Chief Illiniwak! Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol For the University of Illiniwaks And Illiniwaks all over the world! Illiniwak Pride! Illiniwak Fever! The Daily Illiniwak Illiniwaks Yearbooks Illiniwaks Homecoming Our Redskin Tradition Eagle Feathers too Illiniwak Stadium Our Illiniwakettes Our Fighting Illiniwaks Illiniwak Cheerleaders Our Marching Illiniwaks Band Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Oskee! Bow! Wow! Just Honoring American Indians Not demeaning anyone Nor meaning them too All very civil How White of us all! The University of Illiniwaks Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! And racists to boot Genocidaires too So very educational The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Anthro 101 A required course To get our degrees >From the University of Illiniwaks Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:23 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh One other point on this matter. After a long struggle by our student body and our Community, the University of Illinois Board of Trustees did DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. By contrast, the University of Chicago adamantly and proudly REFUSED TO DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. This is because the University of Chicago has always been a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Black People including African Americans living around the University of Chicago upon whom UChicago has and continues to practice Urban Apartheid, Ethnic Cleansing and Lebensraum. QED Fab. AB, UChicago 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:25 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) View event details. [cid:image001.png at 01D20B27.B5C9B150] Following the lecture, consider attending the "Free Speech on Campus" panel discussion at the Illini Union, Room A. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 548384 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Sep 10 11:11:10 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 11:11:10 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Sick & Demented-- 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Message-ID: By "all" I did not mean Jim Wilson. The rest of the panelists are sick and demented. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:54 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: Sick & Demented-- 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Remember at the Panel on Thursday. These people are bringing Killer Koh onto this Campus. Killer Koh mercilessly exterminated by drone murders 5000+ Muslims/Arabs/Asians Men, Women and Children of Color. Killer Koh destroyed Libya and the Libyans. Killer Koh destroyed Syria and the Syrians. They are all sick and demented. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 8:17 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Importance: High 1. When you get an answer from Dean Amar about why he only admitted 5 (?) African American Law students this year please convey it to our new incoming Chancellor who is African American. 2. You should also ask Dean Amar why he invited Killer Koh in here to speak on behalf of getting Killary elected President 10 days later when Killer Koh works for the Killary Presidential election campaign and there is an Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of University Resources for such partisan electoral purposes-even one Email has been sanctioned by the Illinois Inspector General. 3. As for his Brother Akhil Amar, you should ask him why he went out of his way to join up with a vicious Gang of Law Professors and Lawyers Thugs in support of Killer Koh in order to terrorize and intimidate a handful of powerless and most vulnerable NYU Law students into silence from protesting Killer Koh at NYU Law School in violation of their "free speech rights" on the NYU Campus when he Akhil Amar had nothing at all to do with the NYU Law Campus? Thanks. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:17 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And "how many African American Law Students were admitted this year" would be a perfect question to ask our Illiniwak Yale Law Mafia Dean at the panel because co-panelist Jim Wilson is President Killeen's Pointman for achieving Diversity on this Campus. Maybe Jim could start with the Illiniwak/Yale Mafia Law School? Our Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Mengeler commissioned a Specially Engraved Wooden Image of Chief Illiniwak that he hung in his office window over the Main Entrance to the Law Building just in order to insult my one American Indian Law Student in my International Human Rights Law Class. You have no idea how much TRAUMA Mengeler's genocidal malice inflicted upon my student. Plus ca change....at the Illiniwak Mafia School of Law. OSKEE! BOW! WOW! DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:51 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Concerning this panel where these 3 Illiniwak/Yale Law Faculty Mafioso are going to be pontificating about "free speech on campus" maybe someone could ask them how many African Americans they admitted to the Chief Illiniwak Mafia Law School this year. Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd deliberately gutted our Affirmative Action Program for African Americans about 14 years ago. Someone on the Faculty just told me that this year our Yale Law Mafia Illiniwak Dean--who invited Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Killer Koh to come in here and Campaign for Yale Law Mafia Killary to get elected president 10 days later-- admitted FIVE (5) African American Law Students??? I hope to get the figure officially late next week sometime from the Diversity Committee. But in the meantime maybe someone can ask him at the Panel and post it. Straight from the Horse's Mouth. Oskee! Bow! Wow! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:19 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Come to think about it, and putting this all together: Ever since our Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler (circa 2000), the Illiniwak Mafia Law School has been as corrupt and incompetent as our Illiniwak Football Team. Hence last year we were Ranked No. 47. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:36 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Below the "civility" of Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} and Fired and Disgraced President Whitey and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heide Hurd and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Criticized Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler at the University of Illiniwaks. And now comes the Yale Law Mafia Resident Faculty War Criminal Harold Killer Koh to speak at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School on the proper Role for Lawyers to play in Government Service on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later at the invitation of our newest Yale Law Mafia Dean, with our previous Yale Law Mafia Dean Bruce Smith being Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned. At the University of Illinois Mafia Law School: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH WE ALL LOVE BIG BROTHER REAGAN WAS PRESIDENT IN 1984 KILLER KOH WORKED FOR REAGAN FROM 1983 TO 1985 Fab. -----Original Message----- From: CERJ at igc.org [mailto:CERJ at igc.org] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:57 AM To: CERJ at igc.org Subject: Yet Another Racist Mascot The Racist Mascot from Urbana-Champaign: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois by Francis Boyle The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the January 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for the Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his "Year 501: The Conquest Continues" (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on t his campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews", and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago, the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to " Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time, the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him. Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in, and that culminates with the band being organized into a swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews form themselves into a swastika. By now, all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming and yelling: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi." This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out o f the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat, the former Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says:"We are honoring the Jews" ... whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. Historically, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, its Boards of Trustees, its Presidents, its Chancellors, its Provosts, its Deans, Directors and Department Heads, and most of its Faculty and Alumni/ae have always been the Ku Klux Klan dressed up in Caps and Gowns instead of Hoods and Sheets. [Francis A. Boyle is a distinguished Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois' Champaign-Urbana campus.] ========================================= COLLEGIUM IUSTITIÆ ÆQUITATEM RESTITUENTI +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ John Woolman College of Equity-Restorative Justice Peacemaking and Conflict Transformation [CERJ] c/o John Wilmerding > 217 High Street, Brattleboro, VT, USA 05301-6073 Phone: (01)-802-254-2826 Email to: CERJ at igc.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "... where Quakers and revolutionaries join for life ..." -- Laura Nyro, from 'New York Tendaberry', 1969 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:03 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Here is my letter to Fired and Disgraced President Whitey in the name of "civility". Acting at Whitey's behest our Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd then denied me a pay raise. If you want to exercise your "free speech rights" on this campus, you have to pay a price. That is how Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} got us on the AAUP Censure List for her bigoted and racist persecution of the Palestinian/Arab of Color Steven Salaita and his Family. In that regard, the previous Acting Dean of the University of Illinois College of Law Mafia School sent a public bootlicking letter to Chancellor Wise {sic!} fully supporting her persecution of the Palestinian/Arab Steven Salaita and his Family. Such is the First Amendment and "freedom of speech" at the University of Illinois Mafia Law School. Don't be fooled by anything these 3 Illinois/Yale/Laws Mafioso Profs tell you on this panel. Caveat emptor! Fab. From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (Voice) 217-244-1478 (Fax) __._,_.___ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:14 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh I dedicate my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" to Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} in the name of "civility." fab. Script for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! produced by Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law So here we are at Memorial Stadium on a beautiful Fall Saturday afternoon during the Michigan-Illiniwak Football Game. There are 77,000 drunken fans here and the game is covered nationwide and live by CBS TV. For the drunken fans on the radio, Jim Turpin of the News-Gazoo/ WDWS Illiniwak Media Empire attempts and fumbles the play-by-play calls. It is half-time. Time for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle. So here goes: 1. The Marching Illiniwak Drum/Dumb Corps take the field at Memorial stadium and proceed to strike up the special Illiniwak drumbeat that I had previously composed for them, all saying in unison over the gigantic stadium sound speaker system: dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb This special dumb-beat continues ad nauseam throughout the performance. 2. Now, out comes the rest of the University of Illiniwak's "Marching Illiniwak" band and strikes up the music for the famous pop song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight." 3. Then, out comes the University of Illiniwak's Glee Club and sings my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" over a special microphone/amplification system fed through the gigantic stadium speakers so that everyone can hear the magnificent lyrics: The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight by Francis A. Boyle Hush my Illiniwaks , my little Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Hush my Illiniwaks, my quiet Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. The Mighty Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! The Glee Club repeats these lyrics ad nauseam throughout the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! 4. Next the Marching Illiniwaks execute their famous "Three-in-One" Illiniwak March. 5. Now the most electrifying moment in sports history: Little Red Sambo Himself, Chief Illiniwak, runs through the band, pops out, and does his little jig at mid-field. 6. Finally, all 77,000 people in the stadium begin to chant in unison and in time with the band and the Glee Club, adding in for emphasis,support, and of course dignity, their "Tomahawk chops": Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Repeated ad nauseam. This magnificent "Chief Illiniwak Spectacle" will of course be shown nation-wide to an audience of tens of millions of football fans and admirers of our "flagship" State University in the Great State of Illiniwaks: The University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign! Home of the the Marching Illiniwaks Band and their Official Mascot, Chief Illiniwak, Little Red Sambo Himself. Certainly the type of University you want to send your children to--unless they are Native American, African American, Asian American, Latino/a, or Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims of Color. F.A.B. * Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:02 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And speaking of "free speech" on this campus, here is my Response to the Statement on "civility" by Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!}. fab. The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illiniwaks The Principles on Which We Stand At the University of Illiniwaks: The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Long Live Chief Illiniwak! Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol For the University of Illiniwaks And Illiniwaks all over the world! Illiniwak Pride! Illiniwak Fever! The Daily Illiniwak Illiniwaks Yearbooks Illiniwaks Homecoming Our Redskin Tradition Eagle Feathers too Illiniwak Stadium Our Illiniwakettes Our Fighting Illiniwaks Illiniwak Cheerleaders Our Marching Illiniwaks Band Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Oskee! Bow! Wow! Just Honoring American Indians Not demeaning anyone Nor meaning them too All very civil How White of us all! The University of Illiniwaks Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! And racists to boot Genocidaires too So very educational The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Anthro 101 A required course To get our degrees >From the University of Illiniwaks Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:23 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh One other point on this matter. After a long struggle by our student body and our Community, the University of Illinois Board of Trustees did DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. By contrast, the University of Chicago adamantly and proudly REFUSED TO DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. This is because the University of Chicago has always been a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Black People including African Americans living around the University of Chicago upon whom UChicago has and continues to practice Urban Apartheid, Ethnic Cleansing and Lebensraum. QED Fab. AB, UChicago 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:25 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 548384 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Sep 10 12:09:44 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 12:09:44 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Sick & Demented-- 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So notice these 3 Sick And Demented Yale Law Mafia Panelists will be pontificating about "free speech on campus" while they are bringing in here the Yale Law Mafia Genocidal Harold Killer Koh to ram down the throats of this Campus and the entire Champaign-Urbana Community on October 28. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 6:11 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: Sick & Demented-- 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh By "all" I did not mean Jim Wilson. The rest of the panelists are sick and demented. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:54 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: Sick & Demented-- 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Remember at the Panel on Thursday. These people are bringing Killer Koh onto this Campus. Killer Koh mercilessly exterminated by drone murders 5000+ Muslims/Arabs/Asians Men, Women and Children of Color. Killer Koh destroyed Libya and the Libyans. Killer Koh destroyed Syria and the Syrians. They are all sick and demented. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 8:17 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Importance: High 1. When you get an answer from Dean Amar about why he only admitted 5 (?) African American Law students this year please convey it to our new incoming Chancellor who is African American. 2. You should also ask Dean Amar why he invited Killer Koh in here to speak on behalf of getting Killary elected President 10 days later when Killer Koh works for the Killary Presidential election campaign and there is an Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of University Resources for such partisan electoral purposes-even one Email has been sanctioned by the Illinois Inspector General. 3. As for his Brother Akhil Amar, you should ask him why he went out of his way to join up with a vicious Gang of Law Professors and Lawyers Thugs in support of Killer Koh in order to terrorize and intimidate a handful of powerless and most vulnerable NYU Law students into silence from protesting Killer Koh at NYU Law School in violation of their "free speech rights" on the NYU Campus when he Akhil Amar had nothing at all to do with the NYU Law Campus? Thanks. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:17 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And "how many African American Law Students were admitted this year" would be a perfect question to ask our Illiniwak Yale Law Mafia Dean at the panel because co-panelist Jim Wilson is President Killeen's Pointman for achieving Diversity on this Campus. Maybe Jim could start with the Illiniwak/Yale Mafia Law School? Our Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Mengeler commissioned a Specially Engraved Wooden Image of Chief Illiniwak that he hung in his office window over the Main Entrance to the Law Building just in order to insult my one American Indian Law Student in my International Human Rights Law Class. You have no idea how much TRAUMA Mengeler's genocidal malice inflicted upon my student. Plus ca change....at the Illiniwak Mafia School of Law. OSKEE! BOW! WOW! DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:51 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Concerning this panel where these 3 Illiniwak/Yale Law Faculty Mafioso are going to be pontificating about "free speech on campus" maybe someone could ask them how many African Americans they admitted to the Chief Illiniwak Mafia Law School this year. Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd deliberately gutted our Affirmative Action Program for African Americans about 14 years ago. Someone on the Faculty just told me that this year our Yale Law Mafia Illiniwak Dean--who invited Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Killer Koh to come in here and Campaign for Yale Law Mafia Killary to get elected president 10 days later-- admitted FIVE (5) African American Law Students??? I hope to get the figure officially late next week sometime from the Diversity Committee. But in the meantime maybe someone can ask him at the Panel and post it. Straight from the Horse's Mouth. Oskee! Bow! Wow! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:19 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Come to think about it, and putting this all together: Ever since our Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler (circa 2000), the Illiniwak Mafia Law School has been as corrupt and incompetent as our Illiniwak Football Team. Hence last year we were Ranked No. 47. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:36 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Below the "civility" of Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} and Fired and Disgraced President Whitey and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heide Hurd and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Criticized Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler at the University of Illiniwaks. And now comes the Yale Law Mafia Resident Faculty War Criminal Harold Killer Koh to speak at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School on the proper Role for Lawyers to play in Government Service on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later at the invitation of our newest Yale Law Mafia Dean, with our previous Yale Law Mafia Dean Bruce Smith being Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned. At the University of Illinois Mafia Law School: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH WE ALL LOVE BIG BROTHER REAGAN WAS PRESIDENT IN 1984 KILLER KOH WORKED FOR REAGAN FROM 1983 TO 1985 Fab. -----Original Message----- From: CERJ at igc.org [mailto:CERJ at igc.org] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:57 AM To: CERJ at igc.org Subject: Yet Another Racist Mascot The Racist Mascot from Urbana-Champaign: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois by Francis Boyle The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the January 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for the Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his "Year 501: The Conquest Continues" (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on t his campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews", and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago, the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to " Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time, the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him. Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in, and that culminates with the band being organized into a swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews form themselves into a swastika. By now, all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming and yelling: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi." This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out o f the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat, the former Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says:"We are honoring the Jews" ... whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. Historically, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, its Boards of Trustees, its Presidents, its Chancellors, its Provosts, its Deans, Directors and Department Heads, and most of its Faculty and Alumni/ae have always been the Ku Klux Klan dressed up in Caps and Gowns instead of Hoods and Sheets. [Francis A. Boyle is a distinguished Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois' Champaign-Urbana campus.] ========================================= COLLEGIUM IUSTITIÆ ÆQUITATEM RESTITUENTI +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ John Woolman College of Equity-Restorative Justice Peacemaking and Conflict Transformation [CERJ] c/o John Wilmerding > 217 High Street, Brattleboro, VT, USA 05301-6073 Phone: (01)-802-254-2826 Email to: CERJ at igc.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "... where Quakers and revolutionaries join for life ..." -- Laura Nyro, from 'New York Tendaberry', 1969 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:03 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Here is my letter to Fired and Disgraced President Whitey in the name of "civility". Acting at Whitey's behest our Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd then denied me a pay raise. If you want to exercise your "free speech rights" on this campus, you have to pay a price. That is how Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} got us on the AAUP Censure List for her bigoted and racist persecution of the Palestinian/Arab of Color Steven Salaita and his Family. In that regard, the previous Acting Dean of the University of Illinois College of Law Mafia School sent a public bootlicking letter to Chancellor Wise {sic!} fully supporting her persecution of the Palestinian/Arab Steven Salaita and his Family. Such is the First Amendment and "freedom of speech" at the University of Illinois Mafia Law School. Don't be fooled by anything these 3 Illinois/Yale/Laws Mafioso Profs tell you on this panel. Caveat emptor! Fab. From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (Voice) 217-244-1478 (Fax) __._,_.___ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:14 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh I dedicate my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" to Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} in the name of "civility." fab. Script for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! produced by Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law So here we are at Memorial Stadium on a beautiful Fall Saturday afternoon during the Michigan-Illiniwak Football Game. There are 77,000 drunken fans here and the game is covered nationwide and live by CBS TV. For the drunken fans on the radio, Jim Turpin of the News-Gazoo/ WDWS Illiniwak Media Empire attempts and fumbles the play-by-play calls. It is half-time. Time for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle. So here goes: 1. The Marching Illiniwak Drum/Dumb Corps take the field at Memorial stadium and proceed to strike up the special Illiniwak drumbeat that I had previously composed for them, all saying in unison over the gigantic stadium sound speaker system: dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb This special dumb-beat continues ad nauseam throughout the performance. 2. Now, out comes the rest of the University of Illiniwak's "Marching Illiniwak" band and strikes up the music for the famous pop song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight." 3. Then, out comes the University of Illiniwak's Glee Club and sings my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" over a special microphone/amplification system fed through the gigantic stadium speakers so that everyone can hear the magnificent lyrics: The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight by Francis A. Boyle Hush my Illiniwaks , my little Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Hush my Illiniwaks, my quiet Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. The Mighty Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! The Glee Club repeats these lyrics ad nauseam throughout the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! 4. Next the Marching Illiniwaks execute their famous "Three-in-One" Illiniwak March. 5. Now the most electrifying moment in sports history: Little Red Sambo Himself, Chief Illiniwak, runs through the band, pops out, and does his little jig at mid-field. 6. Finally, all 77,000 people in the stadium begin to chant in unison and in time with the band and the Glee Club, adding in for emphasis,support, and of course dignity, their "Tomahawk chops": Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Repeated ad nauseam. This magnificent "Chief Illiniwak Spectacle" will of course be shown nation-wide to an audience of tens of millions of football fans and admirers of our "flagship" State University in the Great State of Illiniwaks: The University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign! Home of the the Marching Illiniwaks Band and their Official Mascot, Chief Illiniwak, Little Red Sambo Himself. Certainly the type of University you want to send your children to--unless they are Native American, African American, Asian American, Latino/a, or Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims of Color. F.A.B. * Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:02 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And speaking of "free speech" on this campus, here is my Response to the Statement on "civility" by Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!}. fab. The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illiniwaks The Principles on Which We Stand At the University of Illiniwaks: The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Long Live Chief Illiniwak! Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol For the University of Illiniwaks And Illiniwaks all over the world! Illiniwak Pride! Illiniwak Fever! The Daily Illiniwak Illiniwaks Yearbooks Illiniwaks Homecoming Our Redskin Tradition Eagle Feathers too Illiniwak Stadium Our Illiniwakettes Our Fighting Illiniwaks Illiniwak Cheerleaders Our Marching Illiniwaks Band Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Oskee! Bow! Wow! Just Honoring American Indians Not demeaning anyone Nor meaning them too All very civil How White of us all! The University of Illiniwaks Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! And racists to boot Genocidaires too So very educational The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Anthro 101 A required course To get our degrees >From the University of Illiniwaks Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:23 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh One other point on this matter. After a long struggle by our student body and our Community, the University of Illinois Board of Trustees did DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. By contrast, the University of Chicago adamantly and proudly REFUSED TO DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. This is because the University of Chicago has always been a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Black People including African Americans living around the University of Chicago upon whom UChicago has and continues to practice Urban Apartheid, Ethnic Cleansing and Lebensraum. QED Fab. AB, UChicago 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:25 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) View event details. [cid:image001.png at 01D20B32.49FCCBA0] Following the lecture, consider attending the "Free Speech on Campus" panel discussion at the Illini Union, Room A. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 548384 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Sep 10 13:43:03 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 13:43:03 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] September 22, 6pm at the Graduate School of Library Science. Message-ID: The Uiuc students greens are hosting a panel event. Included will be speakers from the Prairie Greens, Scott Summers, GP candidate for Illinois senator, and music by Harry Mackilade. 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See: RT.com No mention of the US requirement of "Assad must go." And, Hillary's call for a "no fly zone", put to rest. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Sep 10 16:01:42 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 16:01:42 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Sick & Demented-- 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: These Sick and Demented Yale Law Mafioso deliberately set up this Thursday Panel in order for them to pave the way for ramming Yale Law Mafioso Genocidaire and War Criminal Killer Koh down the throats of everyone on this Campus and in the Champaign-Urbana Community on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President 10 Days Later. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 7:10 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: Sick & Demented-- 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh So notice these 3 Sick And Demented Yale Law Mafia Panelists will be pontificating about "free speech on campus" while they are bringing in here the Yale Law Mafia Genocidal Harold Killer Koh to ram down the throats of this Campus and the entire Champaign-Urbana Community on October 28. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 6:11 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: Sick & Demented-- 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh By "all" I did not mean Jim Wilson. The rest of the panelists are sick and demented. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:54 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: Sick & Demented-- 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Remember at the Panel on Thursday. These people are bringing Killer Koh onto this Campus. Killer Koh mercilessly exterminated by drone murders 5000+ Muslims/Arabs/Asians Men, Women and Children of Color. Killer Koh destroyed Libya and the Libyans. Killer Koh destroyed Syria and the Syrians. They are all sick and demented. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 8:17 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: 3 Questions for LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Importance: High 1. When you get an answer from Dean Amar about why he only admitted 5 (?) African American Law students this year please convey it to our new incoming Chancellor who is African American. 2. You should also ask Dean Amar why he invited Killer Koh in here to speak on behalf of getting Killary elected President 10 days later when Killer Koh works for the Killary Presidential election campaign and there is an Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of University Resources for such partisan electoral purposes-even one Email has been sanctioned by the Illinois Inspector General. 3. As for his Brother Akhil Amar, you should ask him why he went out of his way to join up with a vicious Gang of Law Professors and Lawyers Thugs in support of Killer Koh in order to terrorize and intimidate a handful of powerless and most vulnerable NYU Law students into silence from protesting Killer Koh at NYU Law School in violation of their "free speech rights" on the NYU Campus when he Akhil Amar had nothing at all to do with the NYU Law Campus? Thanks. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:17 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And "how many African American Law Students were admitted this year" would be a perfect question to ask our Illiniwak Yale Law Mafia Dean at the panel because co-panelist Jim Wilson is President Killeen's Pointman for achieving Diversity on this Campus. Maybe Jim could start with the Illiniwak/Yale Mafia Law School? Our Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Mengeler commissioned a Specially Engraved Wooden Image of Chief Illiniwak that he hung in his office window over the Main Entrance to the Law Building just in order to insult my one American Indian Law Student in my International Human Rights Law Class. You have no idea how much TRAUMA Mengeler's genocidal malice inflicted upon my student. Plus ca change....at the Illiniwak Mafia School of Law. OSKEE! BOW! WOW! DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:51 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Concerning this panel where these 3 Illiniwak/Yale Law Faculty Mafioso are going to be pontificating about "free speech on campus" maybe someone could ask them how many African Americans they admitted to the Chief Illiniwak Mafia Law School this year. Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd deliberately gutted our Affirmative Action Program for African Americans about 14 years ago. Someone on the Faculty just told me that this year our Yale Law Mafia Illiniwak Dean--who invited Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Killer Koh to come in here and Campaign for Yale Law Mafia Killary to get elected president 10 days later-- admitted FIVE (5) African American Law Students??? I hope to get the figure officially late next week sometime from the Diversity Committee. But in the meantime maybe someone can ask him at the Panel and post it. Straight from the Horse's Mouth. Oskee! Bow! Wow! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:19 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Come to think about it, and putting this all together: Ever since our Fired and Disgraced NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler (circa 2000), the Illiniwak Mafia Law School has been as corrupt and incompetent as our Illiniwak Football Team. Hence last year we were Ranked No. 47. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:36 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Below the "civility" of Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} and Fired and Disgraced President Whitey and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heide Hurd and Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Criticized Illinois Law Mafia NeoCon Dean Tom Mengeler at the University of Illiniwaks. And now comes the Yale Law Mafia Resident Faculty War Criminal Harold Killer Koh to speak at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School on the proper Role for Lawyers to play in Government Service on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later at the invitation of our newest Yale Law Mafia Dean, with our previous Yale Law Mafia Dean Bruce Smith being Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned. At the University of Illinois Mafia Law School: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH WE ALL LOVE BIG BROTHER REAGAN WAS PRESIDENT IN 1984 KILLER KOH WORKED FOR REAGAN FROM 1983 TO 1985 Fab. -----Original Message----- From: CERJ at igc.org [mailto:CERJ at igc.org] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:57 AM To: CERJ at igc.org Subject: Yet Another Racist Mascot The Racist Mascot from Urbana-Champaign: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois by Francis Boyle The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the January 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for the Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his "Year 501: The Conquest Continues" (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on t his campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews", and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago, the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to " Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time, the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him. Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in, and that culminates with the band being organized into a swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews form themselves into a swastika. By now, all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming and yelling: "Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi." This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out o f the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat, the former Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says:"We are honoring the Jews" ... whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. Historically, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, its Boards of Trustees, its Presidents, its Chancellors, its Provosts, its Deans, Directors and Department Heads, and most of its Faculty and Alumni/ae have always been the Ku Klux Klan dressed up in Caps and Gowns instead of Hoods and Sheets. [Francis A. Boyle is a distinguished Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois' Champaign-Urbana campus.] ========================================= COLLEGIUM IUSTITIÆ ÆQUITATEM RESTITUENTI +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ John Woolman College of Equity-Restorative Justice Peacemaking and Conflict Transformation [CERJ] c/o John Wilmerding > 217 High Street, Brattleboro, VT, USA 05301-6073 Phone: (01)-802-254-2826 Email to: CERJ at igc.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "... where Quakers and revolutionaries join for life ..." -- Laura Nyro, from 'New York Tendaberry', 1969 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:03 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Here is my letter to Fired and Disgraced President Whitey in the name of "civility". Acting at Whitey's behest our Fired and Disgraced and ABA-Sanctioned NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd then denied me a pay raise. If you want to exercise your "free speech rights" on this campus, you have to pay a price. That is how Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} got us on the AAUP Censure List for her bigoted and racist persecution of the Palestinian/Arab of Color Steven Salaita and his Family. In that regard, the previous Acting Dean of the University of Illinois College of Law Mafia School sent a public bootlicking letter to Chancellor Wise {sic!} fully supporting her persecution of the Palestinian/Arab Steven Salaita and his Family. Such is the First Amendment and "freedom of speech" at the University of Illinois Mafia Law School. Don't be fooled by anything these 3 Illinois/Yale/Laws Mafioso Profs tell you on this panel. Caveat emptor! Fab. From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (Voice) 217-244-1478 (Fax) __._,_.___ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:14 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh I dedicate my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" to Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!} in the name of "civility." fab. Script for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! produced by Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law So here we are at Memorial Stadium on a beautiful Fall Saturday afternoon during the Michigan-Illiniwak Football Game. There are 77,000 drunken fans here and the game is covered nationwide and live by CBS TV. For the drunken fans on the radio, Jim Turpin of the News-Gazoo/ WDWS Illiniwak Media Empire attempts and fumbles the play-by-play calls. It is half-time. Time for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle. So here goes: 1. The Marching Illiniwak Drum/Dumb Corps take the field at Memorial stadium and proceed to strike up the special Illiniwak drumbeat that I had previously composed for them, all saying in unison over the gigantic stadium sound speaker system: dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb This special dumb-beat continues ad nauseam throughout the performance. 2. Now, out comes the rest of the University of Illiniwak's "Marching Illiniwak" band and strikes up the music for the famous pop song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight." 3. Then, out comes the University of Illiniwak's Glee Club and sings my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" over a special microphone/amplification system fed through the gigantic stadium speakers so that everyone can hear the magnificent lyrics: The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight by Francis A. Boyle Hush my Illiniwaks , my little Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Hush my Illiniwaks, my quiet Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. The Mighty Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! The Glee Club repeats these lyrics ad nauseam throughout the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! 4. Next the Marching Illiniwaks execute their famous "Three-in-One" Illiniwak March. 5. Now the most electrifying moment in sports history: Little Red Sambo Himself, Chief Illiniwak, runs through the band, pops out, and does his little jig at mid-field. 6. Finally, all 77,000 people in the stadium begin to chant in unison and in time with the band and the Glee Club, adding in for emphasis,support, and of course dignity, their "Tomahawk chops": Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Repeated ad nauseam. This magnificent "Chief Illiniwak Spectacle" will of course be shown nation-wide to an audience of tens of millions of football fans and admirers of our "flagship" State University in the Great State of Illiniwaks: The University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign! Home of the the Marching Illiniwaks Band and their Official Mascot, Chief Illiniwak, Little Red Sambo Himself. Certainly the type of University you want to send your children to--unless they are Native American, African American, Asian American, Latino/a, or Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims of Color. F.A.B. * Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 12:02 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And speaking of "free speech" on this campus, here is my Response to the Statement on "civility" by Fired and Disgraced Chancellor Wise {sic!}. fab. The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illiniwaks The Principles on Which We Stand At the University of Illiniwaks: The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Long Live Chief Illiniwak! Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol For the University of Illiniwaks And Illiniwaks all over the world! Illiniwak Pride! Illiniwak Fever! The Daily Illiniwak Illiniwaks Yearbooks Illiniwaks Homecoming Our Redskin Tradition Eagle Feathers too Illiniwak Stadium Our Illiniwakettes Our Fighting Illiniwaks Illiniwak Cheerleaders Our Marching Illiniwaks Band Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Oskee! Bow! Wow! Just Honoring American Indians Not demeaning anyone Nor meaning them too All very civil How White of us all! The University of Illiniwaks Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! And racists to boot Genocidaires too So very educational The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Anthro 101 A required course To get our degrees >From the University of Illiniwaks Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:23 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh One other point on this matter. After a long struggle by our student body and our Community, the University of Illinois Board of Trustees did DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. By contrast, the University of Chicago adamantly and proudly REFUSED TO DIVEST from Apartheid South Africa. This is because the University of Chicago has always been a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Black People including African Americans living around the University of Chicago upon whom UChicago has and continues to practice Urban Apartheid, Ethnic Cleansing and Lebensraum. QED Fab. AB, UChicago 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:25 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh And just in case anyone on this Panel endorses the University of Chicago so-called Principles on Free Speech on Campus that you have been reading about and were specifically endorsed by John Foreman and Disgraced and Fired Chancellor Richard Herman in the Sunday News-Gazette: It is well known on the Southside of Chicago that the University of Chicago has always practiced Urban Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing upon its surrounding African American Communities. That is precisely why the late, great Saul Alinsky-a UChicago Graduate-organized The Woodlawn Organization (TWO) to prevent the University of Chicago from Ethnically Cleansing the African American Community out of Woodlawn--The University of Chicago's ongoing Lebensraum to the South. The University of Chicago are just a Gang of Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against African Americans and Other People of Color. Caveat Emptor! Fab, AB, University of Chicago, 1971 Native Southside Chicagoan. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:13 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh Ok. I now had a chance to look at the people on this "free speech on campus" panel over at the Illini Union that includes this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Thug Amar who beat up on the students at NYU Law School in support of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. The Panel will be "chaired" by his Yale Law Mafia/Illinois Law Mafia Brother Dean of this Law School who invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here and speak on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected president 10 days later. In addition the panel will also include Mazzone from the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty who is also a Member of the Yale Law Mafia. If I remember correctly, I think Mazzone might be a member of the Hijacking Justice Federalist Society. So except for Jim Wilson this panel will be about "Hijacking the First Amendment on Campus" according to the Yale/Illinois Law Mafias who have invited Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh to come in here on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary elected President ten days later in violation of the Illinois Statute that expressly prohibits the use of State of Illinois Resources for such partisan political purposes.. Caveat Emptor! Fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:44 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh "His work has won awards from...the Federalist Society" for HIJACKING JUSTICE! Fab. S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." -- Additional reporting by Lottie L. Joiner Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:37 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh What good is this Yale Law Mafia Faculty Professor if he beat up on a handful of courageous NYU Law Students on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh? He's just a THUG! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: LECTURE @ ILLINOIS: Akhil Reed Amar, Yale University supports Killer Koh This is the Yale Law Mafia Faculty Brother of our Yale Law Mafia Dean who beat up on the NYU Law students like Amanda on behalf of Yale Law Mafia Faculty Killer Koh. DISGUSTING! I am not going to dignify his lecture with my presence. Ditto for his "free speech" panel listed below.. The Yale Law Mafia Faculty and the Illinois Law Mafia Faculty are just two Gangs of Thugs. Let's Take Back Our Constitution from these Legal Elite Thugs! 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Sep 11 00:42:08 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 00:42:08 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Jill Stein calls for a new 9/11 investigation In-Reply-To: <1711473922.2378947.1473551930757@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1711473922.2378947.1473551930757.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1711473922.2378947.1473551930757@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You Stephen Francis, I refer to as "full of shit", because you blame Jews for everything, denying the Holocaust, and making anti-semitic comments every opportunity. Like Jill Stein, I support a new, impartial investigation of 9/11, because so many people doubt the results of the previous one, given the Bush administration, unsuccessfully attempted to use 9/11 as an excuse to attack Iraq. Only when that failed, did they produce the lies of WMD to accomplish their goal of regime change and destruction of Iraq. On Sep 10, 2016, at 16:58, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: >From your local 9/11Truther/real antiwar activist - who is neither, "full of shit" as described by Karen Aram or "trash" by David Green and will not use terms like this to describe other members of Peace-discuss or the Green Party. please see the following: Jill Stein calls for new 9/11 investigation Jill Stein calls for new 9/11 investigation The Green Party candidate said the 9/11 Commission report contains "omissions and distortions." I will also be posting a full set of nine videos on 9/11 Truth soon... James Fetzer and I coordinated another online video conference over the last five days and compiled a large set of recordings of these sessions on the subject of 9/11. Contributors included: Alan Sabrosky, served as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute, of the US Army War College Susan Lindauer, a former CIA asset who served as liaison between the CIA and Saddam Hussein Scott Bennett, a former Army intel and psyops officer Preston James, a social psychologist with a Ph.D. from a Big 10 university Nicholas Kollerstrom, University College London and four others including me... stay tuned. Steve Francis _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 11 00:51:53 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 00:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Jill Stein calls for a new 9/11 investigation In-Reply-To: References: <1711473922.2378947.1473551930757.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1711473922.2378947.1473551930757@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <162049400.2163431.1473555113987@mail.yahoo.com> I'm not anti-Semitic and anti-criminal murderers ... the Zionists who did 9/11Bush decided to remove Saddam 'on day one'Former aide says US president made up his mind to go to war with Iraq long before 9/11, then ordered his staff to find an excuse | | | | | | | | | | | Bush decided to remove Saddam 'on day one' By Julian Borger Former aide says US president made up his mind to go to war with Iraq long before 9/11, then ordered his staff t... | | | | Bush decided to remove Saddam 'on day one' Former aide says US president made up his mind to go to war with Iraq long before 9/11, then ordered his staff to find an excuse In the Bush White House, Paul O'Neill was the bespectacled swot in a class of ideological bullies who eventually kicked him out for raising too many uncomfortable questions. Now, 13 months later at a critical moment for the president, the nerd is having his revenge.Mr O'Neill's account of his two years as Treasury secretary, told in a book published tomorrow and in a series of interviews over the weekend, is a startling tale of an administration nominally led by a disengaged figurehead president but driven by a "praetorian guard" of hardline rightwingers led by vice president Dick Cheney, ready to bend circumstances and facts to fit their political agenda. On Saturday, September 10, 2016 7:42 PM, Karen Aram wrote: You Stephen Francis, I refer to as "full of shit", because you blame Jews for everything, denying the Holocaust, and making anti-semitic comments every opportunity.  Like Jill Stein, I support a new, impartial investigation of 9/11, because so many people doubt the results of the previous one, given the Bush administration, unsuccessfully attempted to use 9/11 as an excuse to attack Iraq. Only when that failed, did they produce the lies of WMD to accomplish their goal of regime change and destruction of Iraq.    On Sep 10, 2016, at 16:58, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: >From your local 9/11Truther/real antiwar activist - who is neither, "full of shit" as described by Karen Aram or "trash" by David Green and will not use terms like this to describe other members of Peace-discuss or the Green Party.please see the following:Jill Stein calls for new 9/11 investigation | | | | | | | | | | | Jill Stein calls for new 9/11 investigation The Green Party candidate said the 9/11 Commission report contains "omissions and distortions." | | | | I will also be posting a full set of nine videos on 9/11 Truth soon...James Fetzer and I coordinated another online video conference over the last five days and compiled a large set of recordings of these sessions on the subject of 9/11.Contributors included:Alan Sabrosky, served as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute, of the US Army War CollegeSusan Lindauer,  a former CIA asset who served as liaison between the CIA and Saddam HusseinScott Bennett, a former Army intel and psyops officerPreston James, a social psychologist with a Ph.D. from a Big 10 universityNicholas Kollerstrom, University College Londonand four others including me...stay tuned.Steve Francis _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Sep 11 12:33:16 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 12:33:16 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: [com-news] 9/11/2014: No War Against Afghanistan! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: com-news at yahoogroups.com [mailto:com-news at yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 10:01 AM To: com-news at yahoogroups.com Cc: Mauri Johansson Subject: [com-news] 9/11/2014: No War Against Afghanistan! 9/11/2014: No War Against Afghanistan! Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 7:03 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: 9/11/2014: No War Against Afghanistan! See more recently Richard A. Clark, Against All Enemies 24 (2004): "When, later in the discussion {on the evening of Sept. 11, with Bush and his crisis advisors}, Secretary Rumsfeld noted that international law allowed the use of force only to prevent future attacks and not for retribution, Bush nearly bit his head off. 'No,' the President yelled in the narrow conference room, 'I don't care what the international lawyers say, we are going to kick some ass.'" F.A.B.] No War Against Afghanistan! Via Transfer News * All the News That Doesn't Fit This is a long, but very important and revealing analysis of the international legal maneuvering behind the military onslaught now being waged against the Afghan people by the Bush {now Obama} Government.-NY Transfer: Transcript of a speech delivered by Prof. Francis A. Boyle at the Illinois Disciples Foundation, Champaign, Illinois on October 18, 2001, copy-edited by NY Transfer News, NY Transfer News Collective, A Service of Blythe Systems since 1985 - Information for the Rest of Us, 339 Lafayette St., New York, NY 10012. Source provided by Nizkor Int. Human Rights Team, October 24, 2001. This Information is disseminated by Nizkor International Human Rights Team. Nizkor is a member of the Peace and Justice Service-Europe (Serpaj), Derechos Human Rights (USA) and GILC (Global Internet Liberty Campaign). PO Box 156037 - 28080 Madrid - Spain. NO WAR AGAINST AFGHANISTAN! Introduction Thank you. I'm very happy to be here this evening once again at the Illinois Disciples Foundation, which has always been a center for organizing for peace, justice and human rights in this area ever since I first came to this community from Boston in July of 1978, and especially under its former minister, my friend Jim Holiman. I also want to thank Joe Miller and Jeff Machotta of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War for inviting me to speak here this evening. People of my generation still remember how important it was for the Vietnam Veterans Against the War to be organized and to speak out against the Vietnam War. They continue to serve as a voice for peace in the world for the past generation. I want to start out with my basic thesis that the Bush administration's war against Afghanistan cannot be justified on the facts or the law. It is clearly illegal. It constitutes armed aggression. It is creating a humanitarian catastrophe for the people of Afghanistan. It is creating terrible regional instability. Right now today we are having artillery barrages across the border between India and Pakistan, which have fought two wars before over Kashmir and yet today are nuclear armed. The longer this war goes on the worse it is going to be not only for the millions of people in Afghanistan but also in the estimation of the 1.2 billion Muslims of the world and the 58 Muslim states in the world. None of them believe the Bush administration's propaganda that this is not a war against Islam. Facts Now let me start first with the facts. As you recall, Secretary of State Colin Powell said publicly they were going to produce a "white paper" documenting their case against Osama bin Laden and their organization Al Qaeda. Well of course those of us in the peace movement are familiar with "white papers" from before. They're always laden with propaganda, half-truths, dissimulations, etc. that are usually very easily refuted after a little bit of analysis. What happened here? We never got a "white paper" produced by the United States government. Zip, zero, nothing. What did we get instead? The only "statement of facts" that we got from an official of the United States government was mentioned in the October 3 edition of the New Speak Times [a.k.a.: New York Times] that described the briefings by the U.S. Ambassador who went over to brief our NATO allies about the Bush administration's case against Bin Laden and Al Qaeda as follows: "One Western official at NATO said the briefings, which were oral, without slides or documents, did not report any direct order from Mr. bin Laden, nor did they indicate that the Taliban knew about the attacks before they happened. A senior diplomat for one closely allied nation characterized the briefing as containing 'nothing particularly new or surprising,' adding: 'It was rather descriptive and narrative rather then forensic. There was no attempt to build a legal case.'" That's someone who was at the briefing! What we did get was a "white paper" from Tony Blair. Did anyone in this room vote for Tony Blair? No! That "white paper" is in that hallowed tradition of a "white paper," based on insinuation, allegation, rumors, etc. Even the British government admitted Blair's case against Bin Laden and Al Qaeda would not stand up in court. As a matter of fact it was routinely derided in the British press. There was nothing there. Now I don't know myself who was behind the terrorist attacks on September 11. It appears we are never going to find out. Why? Because Congress in its "wisdom" has decided not to empanel a joint committee of both Houses of Congress with subpoena power, giving them access to whatever documents they want throughout any agency of the United States government, including F.B.I., C.I.A., N.S.A., D.I.A.. To put these people under oath and testify as to what happened under penalty of perjury. We are not going to get that investigation. Law Now let's look at the law. Immediately after the attacks President Bush's first statement that he made in Florida was to call these attacks an act of terrorism. Now under United States domestic law we have a definition of terrorism and clearly this would qualify as an act or acts of terrorism. For reasons I can get into later if you want, under international law and practice there is no generally accepted definition of terrorism. But certainly under United States domestic law this qualified as an act of terrorism. What happened? Well again according to the New Speak Times, President Bush consulted with Secretary Powell and all of a sudden they changed the rhetoric and characterization of what happened here. They now called it an act of war. Clearly this was not an act of war. There are enormous differences in how you treat an act of terrorism and how you treat an act of war. We have dealt with acts of terrorism before. Normally acts of terrorism are dealt with as a matter of international and domestic law enforcement. In my opinion that is how this bombing, these incidents, should have been dealt with: international and domestic law enforcement. Indeed there is a treaty directly on point. Although the United Nations was unable to agree on a formal definition of terrorism, they decided to break down terrorism into its constituent units and deal with them piece-wise: Let's criminalize specific aspects of criminal behavior that we want to stop. The Montreal Sabotage Convention is directly on point. It criminalizes the destruction of civilian aircraft while in service. The United States is a party. Afghanistan is a party. It has an entire legal regime to deal with this dispute. The Bush administration just ignored the Montreal Sabotage Convention. There was also the U.N. Terrorist Bombing Convention that is also directly on point. Eventually the Bush administration just did say, well yes our Senate should ratify this convention. It's been sitting in the Senate for quite some time, lingering because of the Senate's opposition to international cooperation by means of treaties on a whole series of issues. Indeed, there are a good 12 to13 treaties out there that deal with various components and aspects of what people generally call international terrorism that could have been used and relied upon by the Bush administration to deal with this issue. But they rejected that entire approach and called it an act of war. They invoked the rhetoric deliberately of Pearl Harbor -- December 7, 1941. It was a conscious decision to escalate the stakes, to escalate the perception of the American people as to what is going on here. Of course the implication here is that if this is an act of war then you don't deal with it by means of international treaties and agreements. You deal with it by means of military force. You go to war. So a decision was made very early in the process. We were going to abandon, junk, ignore the entire framework of international treaties and agreements that had been established for 25 years to deal with these types of problems and basically go to war. An act of war has a formal meaning. It means an attack by one state against another state, which of course is what happened on December 7, 1941. But not on September 11, 2001. The U.N. Security Council The next day September 12, the Bush administration went into the United Nations Security Council to get a resolution authorizing the use of military force and they failed. It's very clear if you read the resolution, they tried to get the authority to use force and they failed. Indeed the September 12 resolution, instead of calling this an armed attack by one state against another state, called it a terrorist attack. And again there is a magnitude of difference between an armed attack by one state against another state -- an act of war -- and a terrorist attack. Terrorists are dealt with as criminals. They are not treated like nation states. Now what the Bush administration tried to do on September 12 was to get a resolution along the lines of what Bush Sr. got in the run up to the Gulf War in late November of 1990. I think it is a fair comparison: Bush Jr. versus Bush Sr. Bush Sr. got a resolution from the Security Council authorizing member states to use "all necessary means" to expel Iraq from Kuwait. They originally wanted language in there expressly authorizing the use of military force. The Chinese objected - so they used the euphemism "all necessary means." But everyone knew what that meant. If you take a look at the resolution of September 12 that language is not in there. There was no authority to use military force at all. They never got any. The U.S. Congress Having failed to do that the Bush Jr. administration then went to the United States Congress and using the emotions of the moment tried to ram through some authorization to go to war under the circumstances. We do not know exactly what their original proposal was at that time. According to a statement made by Senator Byrd in the New Speak Times, however, if you read between the lines it appears that they wanted a formal declaration of war along the lines of what President Roosevelt got on December 8, 1941 after Pearl Harbor. Congress refused to give them that, and for a very good reason. If a formal declaration of war had been given it would have made the President a constitutional dictator.[i][1] We would now all be living basically under marshal law. Congress might have just as well picked up and gone home as the House did today, which, by the way, was encouraged by President Bush. It was his recommendation [in response to the anthrax attacks].[ii][2] You'll recall as a result of that declaration of war on December 8, 1941, we had the infamous Korematsu case where Japanese American citizens were rounded up and put in concentration camps on the basis of nothing more than a military order that later on turned out to be a gross misrepresentation of the factual allegation that Japanese Americans constituted some type of security threat.[iii][3] If Bush had gotten a declaration of war, we would have been on the same footing today. The Korematsu case has never been overturned by the United States Supreme Court. Instead Congress gave President Bush Jr. what is called a War Powers Resolution Authorization -- under the War Powers Resolution of 1973 that was passed over President Nixon's veto, namely by a 2/3rds majority in both Houses of Congress, and was designed to prevent another Tonkin Gulf Resolution and another Vietnam War. Only one courageous member of Congress, Barbara Lee, an African American representative from Oakland, voted against it as a matter of principle. This resolution, although it is not as bad as a formal declaration of war, is even worse than the Tonkin Gulf Resolution. It basically gives President Bush a blank check to use military force against any individual, organization, or state that he alleges -- notice his ipse dixit -- was somehow involved in the attacks on September 11 or else sheltered, harbored, or assisted individuals involved in the attacks on September 11. In other words, Bush now has a blank check pretty much to wage war against any state he wants to from the United States Congress. It was then followed up by Congress with a $40 billion appropriation as a down payment for waging this de facto war. Very dangerous, this War Powers Resolution Authorization. No real way it can be attacked in court at this point in time. In the heat of the moment, Congress gave him this authority. It is still there on the books. Again let's compare and contrast this resolution with the one gotten by Bush Sr. in the Gulf Crisis. Bush Sr. got his U.N. Security Council resolution. He then took it to Congress for authorization under the War Powers Resolution and they gave him a very precise authorization to use military force for the purpose of carrying out the Security Council resolution -- that was, only for the purpose of expelling Iraq from Kuwait. Indeed that is what Bush Sr. did. He expelled Iraq from Kuwait. He did not move north to Baghdad. He stopped short south of Basra, saying "that's all the authority I have." I'm not here to approve what Bush Sr. did in that war but simply to compare it to Bush Jr. Now Bush Sr. has been criticized, with people saying that he should have marched all the way to Bagdad. But he had no authority by the U.N. Security Council to do that and he had no authority from the U.S. Congress to do that either. Again, compare that to Bush Jr.'s resolution of September 14 that basically gave him a blank check to wage war against anyone he wants to with no more than his ipse dixit. It's astounding to believe. Even worse than Tonkin Gulf. NATO In addition Bush Jr. then went over to NATO to get a resolution from NATO and he convinced NATO to invoke Article 5 of the NATO Pact. Article 5 of the NATO Pact is only intended to deal with the armed attack by one state against another state. It is not, and has never been, intended to deal with a terrorist attack. The NATO Pact was supposed to deal in theory with an attack on a NATO member state by a member of the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union. With the collapse of both the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union, there was no real justification or pretext anymore for the continued existence of NATO. Bush Sr. then in an effort to keep NATO around, tried to transform its very nature to serve two additional purposes: (1) policing Eastern Europe, and we saw that with the illegal war against Serbia by President Clinton; and (2) intervention in the Middle East to "secure" the oil fields. The NATO Council approved this proposal. The problem is that the NATO Pact, the treaty setting up NATO, provides no authorization to do this at all. Indeed the NATO Pact would have to be amended by the parliaments of the NATO member states to justify either policing Eastern Europe or as an interventionary force in the Middle East. The invocation of NATO Article 5 then was completely bogus. The Bush Jr. administration was attempting to get some type of multilateral justification for what it was doing when it had failed at the United Nations Security Council to get authorization. The Bush Jr. administration tried again to get more authority from the Security Council, but all they got was a presidential statement that legally means nothing. They tried yet a third time, September 29, before they started the war, to get that authorization to use military force and they got stronger language. But still they failed to get any authorization from the Security Council to use military force for any reason. Self-judging Self-defense Then what happened? The new U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, John Negroponte, sent a letter to the Security Council asserting Article 51 of the United Nations Charter. Now some of us are familiar with Negroponte. He was U.S. Ambassador in Honduras during the contra war against Nicaragua. He has the blood of 35,000 Nicaraguan civilians on his hands. The only way Bush could get him confirmed by the Senate was that he rammed him through the Senate right after the 9/11 bombings. So whenever you see Negroponte on the television talking to you, remember this man has the blood of 35,000 people on his hands. That's eleven times anything that happened in New York. Eleven times. The letter by Negroponte was astounding. It said that the United States reserves its right to use force in self-defense against any state that we feel is necessary in order to fight our war against international terrorism. So in other words, they failed on three separate occasions to get formal authority from the Security Council and now the best they could do was fall back on some alleged right of self-defense as determined by themselves. Very consistent with the War Powers Resolution authorization that Bush did indeed get from Congress on September 14. I was giving an interview the other day to the San Francisco Chronicle and the reporter asked if there was any precedent for the position here being asserted by Negroponte that we are reserving the right to go to war in self-defense against a large number of other states as determined by ourselves. I said yes, there is one very unfortunate precedent: That's the Nuremberg Tribunal of 1946. There the lawyers for the Nazi defendants took the position that they had reserved the right of self-defense under the Kellogg-Briand Peace Pact of 1928 [a predecessor to the U.N. Charter]; and self-defense as determined by themselves. In other words, no one could tell them to the contrary. So at Nuremberg they had the chutzpah to argue that the entire Second World War was a war of self-defense as determined by themselves, and no one had standing to disagree with that self-judging provision. Well of course the Nuremberg Tribunal rejected that argument and said no, what is self-defense can only be determined by reference to international law; and that has to be determined by an international tribunal. No state has a right to decide this for themselves. Aggression Clearly what is going on now in Afghanistan is not self-defense. Let's be honest. We all know it. At best this is reprisal, retaliation, vengeance, catharsis. Call it what you want, but it is not self-defense. And retaliation is never self-defense. Indeed that was the official position of the United States government even during the darkest days of the Vietnam War. Then former Undersecretary of State Eugene V. Rostow tried to get the State Department to switch their position. They refused and continued to maintain their position that retaliation is not self-defense. This is not self-defense what we are doing in Afghanistan. Since none of these justifications and pretexts hold up as a matter of law, then what the United States government today is doing against Afghanistan constitutes armed aggression. It is illegal. There is no authority for this. Indeed if you read on the internet, certainly not in the mainstream U.S. news media, you will see that is the position being taken by almost every Islamic country in the world. Where are the facts? Where is the law? They aren't there. This is apparent to the entire world. It's apparent in Europe. It's apparent in the Middle East. It is obvious to the 1.2 billion Muslims of the world. Are any Muslim leaders involved in military action against Afghanistan? Unlike what happened with Iraq? No! Have any of them volunteered military forces to get involved here? A deafening silence. They all know it is wrong. [See more recently Richard A. Clark, Against All Enemies 24 (2004): "When, later in the discussion {on the evening of Sept. 11, with Bush and his crisis advisors}, Secretary Rumsfeld noted that international law allowed the use of force only to prevent future attacks and not for retribution, Bush nearly bit his head off. 'No,' the President yelled in the narrow conference room, 'I don't care what the international lawyers say, we are going to kick some ass.'" F.A.B.] Violent Settlement Of International Disputes Now the government of Afghanistan made repeated offers even as of yesterday to negotiate a solution to this dispute. Even before the events of September 11, negotiations were going on between the United States and the government of Afghanistan over the disposition of Bin Laden. They had offered to have him tried in a neutral Islamic court by Muslim judges applying the law of Sharia. This was before the latest incidents. We rejected that proposal. After September 11 they renewed the offer. What did President Bush say? No negotiations! There's nothing to negotiate! Here is my ultimatum! Well the problem is again the United Nations Charter, which requires the peaceful resolution of disputes. It requires expressly by name "negotiation." Likewise that Kellogg-Briand Peace Pact I mentioned, under which Nazis were prosecuted at Nuremberg, to which Afghanistan and the United States are both parties, requires peaceful resolution of all disputes and prohibits war as an instrument of national policy. Yet that's exactly what we are doing today, waging war as an instrument of national policy. Then again on Sunday as he came back from Camp David with the latest offer again by the government of Afghanistan - they were willing to negotiate over the disposition of Mr. Bin Laden. I don't know how many of you saw the President get off the helicopter. It was surreal. He went ballistic: There'll be no negotiations! I told them what to do! They better do it! Again, those are not the requirements of the United Nations Charter and the Kellogg-Briand Peace Pact. If you read the ultimatum that President Bush gave to the government of Afghanistan in his speech before Congress you will see it was clearly designed so that it could not be complied with by the government of Afghanistan. No government in the world could have complied with that ultimatum. Indeed, there were striking similarities with the ultimatum given by the Bush Sr. administration to Tariq Aziz in Geneva on the eve of the Gulf War that was deliberately designed so as not to be accepted, which it was not. Why? The decision had already been made to go to war. Humanitarian Catastrophe Now that being said, what then really is going on here? If there is no basis in fact and there is no basis in law for this war against Afghanistan, why are we doing this? Why are we creating this humanitarian catastrophe for the Afghan people? Recall it was Bush's threat to bomb Afghanistan that put millions of people on the move without food, clothing, housing, water, or medical facilities and that has created this humanitarian catastrophe now for anywhere from 5 to 7 million Afghans. All the humanitarian relief organizations have said quite clearly that the so-called humanitarian "food drop" -- as Doctors Without Borders a Nobel Peace Prize organization put it -- is a military propaganda operation. which it clearly is. Bush calling for the children of America to send $1 to the White House for the Afghani children is also propaganda. This is not serious. And the winter is coming in Afghanistan. Latest estimate that I've seen is that maybe 100,000 or more are going to die if we don't stop this war. U.S. Military Bases in Central Asia So what's really going on here? Why are we bombing Afghanistan? Why are we doing this? Is it retaliation? Is it vengeance? Is it bloodlust? No, it isn't! The people who run this country are cold, calculating people. They know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it. And now since the bombing started in the last twelve days, it's become very clear what the agenda is: Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld flew to Uzbekistan and concluded an agreement with the dictator who runs that country, Karimov, accused of massive violations of human rights, that the United States government will "protect" Uzbekistan. Now first, the Secretary of Defense has no constitutional authority to conclude such an agreement in the first place. Putting that issue aside, however, it's very clear what's going on here. The Pentagon is now in the process of establishing a military base in Uzbekistan. It's been in the works for quite some time. They admit, yes, U.S. Special Forces have been over there for several years training their people under "Partnership for Peace" with NATO. Now it's becoming apparent what is happening. We are making a long-term military arrangement with Uzbekistan. Indeed it has been reported, and you can get press from that region on the internet, that Uzbekistan now wants a status of forces agreement with the United States. What's a status of forces agreement? It's an agreement that permits the long-term deployment of significant numbers of armed forces in another state. We have status of forces agreements with Germany, Japan, and South Korea. We have had troops in all three of those countries since 1945. And when we get our military presence, our base, that is right now being set up in Uzbekistan, it's clear we're not going to leave. It's clear that this unconstitutional agreement between Rumsfeld and Karimov is to set the basis to stay in Uzbekistan for the next 10-15-20 years, saying we have to defend it against Afghanistan, where we've created total chaos. This is exactly the same argument that has been made to keep the United States military forces deployed in the Persian Gulf now for ten years after the Gulf War. We are still there. We still have 20,000 troops sitting on top of the oil in all these countries. We even established the Fifth Fleet in Bahrain to police this region. We never had any intention of leaving the Persian Gulf. We are there to stay. Stealing Oil and Gas Indeed planning for that goes back to the Carter administration -- the so-called Rapid Deployment Force, renamed the U.S. Central Command that carried out the war against Iraq and occupied and still occupies these Persian Gulf countries and their oil fields and is today now executing the war against Afghanistan and deploying U.S. military forces to build this base in Uzbekistan. Why do we want to get in Uzbekistan? Very simple. The oil and natural gas resources of Central Asia, reported to be the second largest in the world after the Persian Gulf. There has been an enormous amount of coverage of this in the pages of the Wall Street Journal, not the New Speak Times. The movers and shakers. They paid enormous attention to Central Asia and the oil resources there. Shortly after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the ascent to independence of those states in 1991, you saw all sorts of articles in the Wall Street Journal about how Central Asia and our presence in Central Asia have become a vital national security interest of the United States. We proceeded to establish relations with these states of Central Asia. We sent over Special Forces. We were even parachuting the 82nd Airborne into Kazakhstan. All reported in the Wall Street Journal. In addition then, since Central Asia is landlocked you have to get the oil and natural gas out, how do you do that? Well one way is to send it west, but we wish to avoid Iran and Russia - thus a highly circuitous route, costs a lot of money, very insecure. The easiest way to do it is construct pipelines south through Afghanistan, into Pakistan and right out to the Arabian Sea. UNOCAL was negotiating to do this with the government of Afghanistan. That's all in the public record. Just as the Persian Gulf War against Iraq was about oil and natural gas, I'm submitting this war is about oil and natural gas and also about outflanking China and getting a military base south of Russia. We are going to be there for a long time. At least until all that oil and gas has been sucked out and it's of no more use to us. Regional War In my opinion that's really what is going on here. We should not be spending a lot of time about who did what to whom on September 11. We need to be focusing on this war, on stopping this war. We need to be focusing on stopping the humanitarian tragedy against the millions of people of Afghanistan right now, today. And third, we need to be focusing on what could very easily become a regional war. The Pentagon launched this thing. Obviously they felt they could keep it under control. That's what the leaders in August of 1914 thought too, when you read Barbara Tuchman's The Guns of August. Everyone figured the situation could be kept under control and it wasn't, and there was a world war. Ten million people died. We're already seeing after President Bush started this war artillery duels between India and Pakistan. Massive unrest in all of these Muslim countries. The longer the war goes on I submit the worse it is going to become, the more dangerous it is going to become, the more unstable it is going to become. American Police State In addition, finally comes the Ashcroft Police State Bill [a.k.a.: USA Patriot Act]. No other words to describe it. Bush failed to get that declaration of war which would have rendered him a constitutional dictator. But it's clear that Ashcroft and his Federalist Society lawyers took every piece of regressive legislation off the shelf, tied it all into this antiterrorism bill, and rammed it through Congress. If you're reading any of the papers yesterday and the day before, members of Congress admit, yes, we didn't even read this thing. Another Congressman said, right, but there's nothing new with that. Except on this one they're infringing the civil rights and civil liberties of all of us, moving us that much closer to a police state in the name of fighting a war on terrorism. Security, this, that, and the other thing. Notice the overwhelming message from the mainstream news media: we all have to be prepared to give up our civil rights and civil liberties. Even so-called liberals like Alan Dershowitz: Oh, let's now go along with the national identity card. Outrageous! Larry Tribe, writing in the Wall Street Journal: well we're all going to have to start making compromises on our civil rights and civil liberties. That's what's in store in the future for us here at home the longer this war against Afghanistan goes on. And Bush has threatened that it will expand to other countries. We don't know how many countries they have in mind. At one point they're saying Malaysia, Indonesia, Somalia, Iraq, Libya. Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz talked about "ending states," which is clearly genocidal. I could take that statement to the World Court and file it and prove it as genocidal intent by the United States government. Scapegoats So the longer we let this go on the more we are going to see our own civil rights and civil liberties taken away from us. As you know aliens, foreigners, their rights are already gone. We now have 700 aliens who've just been picked up and disappeared by Ashcroft and the Department of Justice. We have no idea where these people are. They're being held on the basis of immigration law, not criminal law. Indefinite detention. What's the one characteristic they all have in common, these foreigners? They're Muslims and Arabs, the scapegoats for 9/11. Everyone needs a scapegoat and it looks like we have one. Conclusion Let me conclude by saying that we still have our First Amendment rights despite Ashcroft's best efforts. Despite the cowardice of both Houses of Congress where, interestingly enough, the so-called liberal Democrats were willing to give Bush and Ashcroft more than the conservative Republicans in the House. We still have our First Amendment rights, freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of assembly, freedom to petition our government for redress of grievances. We are going to need to start to exercise those First Amendment rights now. For the good of the people of Afghanistan, for the good of the people of that region of the world, and for the future of ourselves and our nature as a democratic society with a commitment to the Rule of Law and the Constitution. Thank you. Questions and Answers Many of the civil rights you say we must give up... A: I said we don't have to give them up; I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear. It's the people in the mainstream news media who have said we must give up those rights, including so-called liberal law professors like Alan Dershowitz and Larry Tribe of my alma mater, Harvard Law School, who should be ashamed of the positions they have taken. So I don't believe we should be giving up any of these rights. Our law enforcement authorities, F.B.I., C.I.A., N.S.A., they have all the powers they need. They certainly don't need more powers than they already have. Indeed under the currently existing laws Ashcroft has already picked up 700 Arabs and Muslims. They disappeared somewhere. We have no idea where they are. Their families, and some have retained lawyers, are trying to find these people. Now they are not U.S. citizens. It would be much harder to do that with United States citizens. So I'm not advocating we give up any rights. I regret to say, however, that is the message coming out of the mainstream news media and even by self-styled liberal law professors like Dershowitz and Tribe. So I'm not advocating that. Many Middle Eastern countries harbor terrorists that pose a threat to the U.S. How would you suggest the U.S. deal with that threat to entice these countries to change their practices? A: This gets back to the problem I had mentioned before about the fact that there is no generally accepted definition of international terrorism or terrorism as a matter of international law. The reason being is that most of the Third World, and when it did exist the Socialist World (there are still a few Socialist countries), took the position that people fighting colonial domination, alien occupation, or racists regimes were engaged in legitimate self-defense and not acts of terrorism. Therefore they refused to accept any definition that these people were terrorists. Now note the United States government was always on the other side. And if you opposed us, you were terrorists. I remember in the 1980s during the struggle against apartheid and divestment and disinvestment which was run on this campus, the Reagan administration for eight years telling us the A.N.C. and Nelson Mandela were terrorists. How many of you remember that? They were terrorists. Black people fighting a white racist colonial regime for their basic human rights. Yet as far as the United States government was concerned, they were terrorists. Same in all the other colonial struggles in Africa. Typically we sided with white racist colonial settler regimes against the indigenous Black populations of these countries fighting for their freedom and independence, and we called them terrorists. The same in the Middle East. Those who have resisted our will or the will of Israel, we have called terrorists. The simple solution to deal with the problem of what's going on in the Middle East is simply to change our policies. If you look at the policies we have pursued in the Middle East for the last 30 years, it has been to repress and dominate, kill, destroy and exploit the indigenous peoples of this region. What apparently the Bush administration seems to call for is now we're going to wage war on anyone who disagrees with us. Well the alternative is to reevaluate our policies and to put our policies on a basis of international law which, I regret to say, we haven't done in the Middle East. Why? Because our primary interest has always been oil and natural gas. We could not care less about peace, democracy, or human rights for anyone in the Middle East. Remember Bush Sr. telling us that the war in the Persian Gulf was all about bringing democracy to Kuwait? Whom did we put back in power in Kuwait? The Emir and his kleptocracy who still deprive women of the vote. There has been no change. We couldn't care less about peace, justice, human rights and democracy anywhere in the Persian Gulf. You saw the other day Secretary of State Powell appearing with the military dictator of Pakistan, Musharraf -- who overthrew a democratically elected government -- talking about bringing democracy to Afghanistan. Wasn't this truly brilliant? He's there appearing with a military dictator and they're talking about bringing democracy to Afghanistan. Clearly we couldn't care less about democracy, peace, justice, humanitarianism in Afghanistan. We care that Afghanistan has in its own right quantities of oil and gas and it has strategic location for oil and gas lines. That's what we care about. Look at our "guys" there, the Northern Alliance, left over from the war against the Soviet Union. These were people we armed, equipped, supplied and trained and by the way, are still massively engaged in the drug trade. This is all propaganda. In any event, as a matter of law, it's not for the United States and the military dictator of Pakistan to determine what should or should not be the government of Afghanistan. What should the U.S. government have done after 9/11? As I said, we should have taken the position that President Bush did originally: This was an act of terrorism and we should have treated it as an act of terrorism which means the normal measures of international and domestic law enforcement that we applied, for example, after the bombings of the two U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and after the bombings of the Pan Am jet over Lockerbie [and the Murrah Federal Building]. That is the way it should have been handled. But a deliberate decision was taken by Bush in consultation with Powell, to reject that approach and to deal with it by means of war. Again, let me repeat Article 1 of the Kellogg-Briand Peace Pact made it very clear prohibiting war as an instrument of national policy. It's very clear in my assessment of the situation that we decided to go to war right away. A question about Middle East policy A: There are many things we could do. We could bring home those 20,000 troops that occupy all those states right now in the Persian Gulf. Does anyone realistically think that we're going to do that and forfeit our direct military control of 50% of the world's oil supply in the Persian Gulf/Middle East region? Of course not. We could dismantle the 5th Fleet which we set up in Bahrain to police, dominate, and control the entire Persian Gulf. Does anyone realistically think we're going to do that? No! We could reevaluate the entire policy towards this region. I don't see any evidence at all, no one in any of the major news media, or the government, is talking about it: why don't we just pick up and go home? Leave these people in the Middle East by themselves and support peace and development. That's not even on the agenda. We are now talking about more warfare, bloodshed, and violence. Today they said Somalia might be the next target. Well that's interesting because yesterday the New York Times had a big article on how much oil they've now found in Somalia. And indeed back when Bush Sr. invaded Somalia, it was reported in the international news media that, yes Somalia had already been carved up by U.S. oil companies. We know for a fact the Bush family has enormous investments in oil and oil companies. Cheney too. What can we do to prevent another September 11? A: I've already made some suggestions about different things I think we could do. But realistically speaking, I don't believe we're going to do them. END Notes Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Avenue Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (voice) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) KOMINFORM http://www.kominform.eu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 10:32 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: 9/11/2014: O'Reilly and the Law of the Jungle BOYLE: ... as well as our servicemen and women. Look, Bill, if we allegedly, as you put it, go in, you are not going in, I am not going in. It's going to be young men and women serving in our armed forces... ---------------------------------------------------------- US foreign fighters in the AfPak theater under Commander-in-Chief Obama suffered 23 casualties in the week ending September 3 as the official casualty total for the Iraq and AfPak wars* rose to 122,128. The total includes 81,340 casualties since the US invaded Iraq in March, 2003 (Operations "Iraqi Freedom" and "New Dawn"). New Dawn ended Dec 31, 2011, although those who died of wounds or injuries later are included. Operation "Enduring Freedom" began with the invasion of Afghanistan in November, 2001 and has resulted in 40,788 casualties. AFGHANISTAN THEATER: US foreign fighters suffered 23 combat casualties during the week ending September 3 as the total rose to 40,788. The total includes 21,816 dead and wounded from what the Pentagon classifies as "hostile" causes and 18,972 dead or medically evacuated (as of Dec.3, 2012, when it stopped making the count public) from what it called "non-hostile" causes. IRAQ THEATER: Obama ordered about 250 more foreign fighters to Iraq, adding to the 1,000 he already sent since last month (together with his air force), but the total remains unclear, because most of several thousand armed US employees are designated as civilians. The casualty total recently stood at 35,771 dead and wounded from "hostile" causes and 45,569 dead or medically evacuated (as of Dec 3, 2012) from "non-hostile" causes. US media divert attention from the actual cost in American life and limb by reporting regularly only the total killed (6,833- 4,491 in Iraq, 2,342 in Afghanistan) but rarely mentioning those wounded in action (52,224 - 32,242 in Iraq; 19,982 in Afghanistan). They ignore the 59,908 (44,607 in Iraq,18,463 in AfPak (as of Dec 3, 2012) military casualties injured and ill seriously enough to be medevac'd out of theater, even though the 6,831 total dead include 1,470 (962 in Iraq, 508 in Afghanistan) who died from those same "non hostile" causes of whom almost 25% (332) were suicides (as of Jan 9, 2013). LENGTH: 3653 words HEADLINE: O'Reilly and the Law of the Jungle BYLINE: Francis A Boyle BODY: by Francis Boyle On the morning of 13 September 2001, that is 48 hours after the terrible tragedies in New York and Washington, D.C. on September 11th, I received telephone call from a producer at Fox Television Network News in New York City. He asked me to go onto The O'Reilly Factor TV program live that evening in order to debate Bill O'Reilly on the question of war versus peace. O'Reilly would argue for the United States going to war in reaction to the terrorist attacks on 11 September, and I would argue for a peaceful resolution of this matter. Up until then I had deliberately declined numerous requests for interviews about the terrible events of September 11 and what should be done about them because it was not clear to me precisely what was going on. But unfortunately The O'Reilly Factor had the Number One ranking in TV viewership for any news media talk program in America. I felt very strongly as a matter of principle that at least one person from the American Peace Movement had to go onto that program and argue the case directly to the American people that the United States of America must not go to war despite the terrible tragedy that had been inflicted upon us all. I had debated O'Reilly before so I was fully aware of the type of abuse to expect from him. So for the next few hours I negotiated with O'Reilly through his producer as to the terms and conditions of my appearance and our debate, which they agreed to. At the time I did not realize that O'Reilly was setting me up to be fired as he would next successfully do to Professor Sami Al-Arian soon after debating me. After our debate had concluded, I returned from the campus television studio to my office in order to shut the computer down, and then go home for what little remained of the evening. When I arrived in my office, I found that my voice mail message system had been flooded with mean, nasty, vicious complaints and threats. The same was true for my e-mail in-box. I deleted all these messages as best I could, and then finally went home to watch the rest of O'Reilly's 9/11 coverage that evening on Fox with my wife. By then he was replaying selected segments of our debate and asking for hostile commentaries from Newt Gingrich and Jeane Kirkpatrick. We turned off the TV in disgust when O'Reilly publicly accused me of being an Al Qaeda supporter. My understanding was that Fox then continued to rebroadcast a tape of this outright character assassination upon me for the rest of the night. When I returned to my office the next day, so many complaints had been filed and accumulated with numerous university officials that the then Dean of my law school issued a public statement repudiating me and then placing it on the law school's web-site. Obviously the then Dean of my law school believed that a Law Professor should advocate the Law of the Jungle instead of the Rule of Law. He is now "deaning" elsewhere, just like a previous Dean who had tried to get rid of me because of my fervid belief in the Rule of Law and public activities in support thereof. On the positive side, however, my besting of O'Reilly in the debate led to my being inundated by requests for interviews from mainstream and progressive news media sources all over the world. This plethora of interviews have continued apace until today during the course of all the terrible events that have transpired in the world since September 11: the war against Afghanistan; the global war on terrorism; massive assaults on international law, human rights, civil rights, civil liberties, and the United States Constitution; the war against Iraq; Guantanamo; kangaroo courts; the Bush Jr. torture scandal, etc. I have done the best I can to oppose this Bush Jr. juggernaut of nihilism--now continued and expanded by Obama. Ultimately it will be up to the American people to decide the future direction of the United States of America and thus indirectly, because of America's preponderant power, unfairly for the rest of the world. The present danger still remains Machiavellian power politics. The only known antidote is international law, international organizations, human rights, and the United States Constitution. In our thermonuclear age, humankind's existential choice is that stark, ominous, and compelling. As Americans, we must not hesitate to apply this imperative regimen immediately before it becomes too late for the continuation of our human species itself. The Rush to War SHOW: THE O'REILLY FACTOR (20:29) September 13, 2001 Thursday Transcript # 091303cb.256 SECTION: News; Domestic LENGTH: 3973 words HEADLINE: America Unites: How Should the U.S. Bring Terrorists to Justice? GUESTS: Sam Huessini, Francis Boyle BYLINE: Bill O'Reilly O'REILLY: While most Americans are united in their support of President Bush and the desire to bring Osama bin Laden and other terrorists to justice, there are some differing voices. Joining us now from Washington is Sam Husseini, the former spokesman for the Arab Anti -- American Anti-Discrimination Committee, and from Urbana, Illinois, is Francis Boyle, an international law professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.[...] O'REILLY: Cut his mike. All right, now, Mr. Boyle, Professor Boyle, let's have a little bit more of a rational discussion here. That was absurd. The United States now has to take action against certain segments in this world who we know have been harbouring people like Osama bin Laden. That's going to happen. How will you react to that? FRANCIS BOYLE, LAW PROFESSOR: Well, first I think you have to look at the law involved. Clearly what we have here, under United States domestic law and statutes, is an act of international terrorism that should be treated as such. It is not yet elevated to an act of war. For an act of war, we need proof that a foreign state actually ordered or launched an attack upon the United States of America. So far, we do not yet have that evidence. We could... O'REILLY: All right, now why are you, why are you, why are you taking this position when you know forces have attacked the United States. Now, maybe they don't have a country, but they are forces. They have attacked the United States, all right? Without warning, without provocation. Civilian targets. They've done everything that an act of war does. So, I'm saying that because we live in a different world now, where borders don't really matter, where terrorism is the weapon of choice, that you would declare war -- if I were President Bush, I would declare war on any hostile forces, notice those words, professor, hostile forces to the United States. I would have a blanket declaration of war so I could go in and kill those people. Would I be wrong? BOYLE: Well, Bill, so far you'll note Congress has been unwilling to declare war. And indeed, this matter is being debated right now. Right now, it appears that what they are seeking is not a full declaration of war, but only what we law professors call an imperfect declaration, which means a limited use of military force under the War Powers Resolution of 1973. Precisely for the problem that we don't know if any state was involved and we still do not know who was responsible for this undoubted terrorist attack upon the United States of America. O'REILLY: All right, but we have the secretary of state saying that Osama bin Laden now has been linked into and, you know, we don't have all the intelligence information, as President Bush said today. He's not going to give us, and he shouldn't, the people of America all the information that they have. But when the secretary of state gets up and says, look, we know this guy was involved to some extent, I believe him. And he's a wanted man, professor. He's been wanted for eight years. The Clinton administration didn't have the heart to get him and in the first few months the Bush administration didn't either. We now know, and you just heard the FBI agent say that Afghanistan has been involved for years harbouring and training these kinds of people. Certainly, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Iran, Iraq, those five countries, certainly have been hostile to the United States and given safe harbour to these terrorists. That's a fact. BOYLE: Well, let me point out, the secretary of state was very careful in the words he used. He said Osama bin Laden was a suspect. He did not accuse him. And, again, under these circumstances... O'REILLY: No, he didn't use the word suspect. He used another word. BOYLE: The account I read in, just off the wire service, said suspect. But let me continue my point. Under these circumstances, where we have 5,000 Americans dead and we could have many more Americans killed in a conflict, we have to be very careful, Congress and the American people and the president, in not to over-escalate the rhetoric, here. We have to look at this very rationally. This is a democracy. We have a right to see what the evidence is and proceed in a very slow and deliberate manner. O'REILLY: No, we don't. We do not, as a republic, we don't have the right to see what the evidence is if the evidence is of a national security situation, as you know. Now, I'm trusting my government to do the right thing, here. I am trusting. But I think it's beyond a doubt right now, beyond a reasonable doubt, which is, as you know, a court of law standard, that there are at least five, North Korea you could put in to, six states in the world that have harboured continually these terrorists. Now, we know that this was a well-coordinated effort. Our initial intelligence shows that some of the people that have been arrested have ties to Osama bin Laden. We know, as you just heard the FBI agent say, that the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center was tied in to a guy who knew bin Laden. So, bin Laden -- I agree with you, that you don't want to be a hothead. You don't want to overreact. You don't want to lob a missile at the pharmaceutical plant in the Sudan, which was terrible, and that was the one good point, or fair point, that Mr. Husseini made, you don't want to do that. But, on the other hand, professor, I think Americans are rightful, are right, to demand action against states that we know in the past have harboured these individuals and there's a warrant out for Osama bin Laden's arrest. So, if he is in Afghanistan, I would give that government a couple of days to hand him over, and if they did not, I'd go in. BOYLE: Well, again. The American people are right. We need to see the evidence. I remember people saying a generation ago, during the Vietnam war, I trusted my government. And I think people of my generation found out that that was wrong. We needed more evidence. O'REILLY: All right. Professor, let me stop you there, though. This is another point that Mr. Husseini tried to make. Just because the United States of America has made mistakes in the past, does not mean that we cannot defend ourselves now. This is a unique situation in history. We have now been attacked by forces without borders, OK? We've been attacked. And it hasn't been a military attack, it's been an attack on civilians. The reason, the sole reason a federal government exists is to protect the people of the United States. And as I said in my "Talking Points" memo, they haven't really done the job, for political reasons. But now's the time to correct those things. So, there's going to be a reckoning, Professor. You know it's going to happen. I know it's going to happen. And it's going to come down on Osama bin Laden first and maybe some of these rouge states later. Will you support that action? BOYLE: Before I support a war that will jeopardize the lives of tens of thousands of our servicemen and women, I want to see the evidence that we are relying on to justify this. So far, I do not see it. I see allegations. I see innuendo. I see winks and I see nods, but I do not see the evidence that you need under international law and the United States constitution so far to go to war. Maybe that evidence will be there, but it is not there now. My recommendation to Congress is to slow down, let's see what develops and let's see what this evidence is before we knowingly go out and not only kill large numbers of people, perhaps in Afghanistan and other countries, but undoubtedly in our own armed forces. 58,000 men of my generation will killed in Vietnam because of irresponsible behavior by the Johnson administration rushing that Tonkin Gulf resolution through Congress, exactly what we're seeing now. And we need to pull back and stop and think and ask the hard questions and demand to see the evidence first, before we march off to war. O'REILLY: All right, so it's not enough that people arrested in the bombings of the embassies in Africa testified in court that Osama bin Laden was behind and financed and coordinated those bombings. That evidence is not enough for you? BOYLE: Well, Africa is a very is a very different story than what happened in the World Trade Center. O'REILLY: No, it's not. He's wanted, he's wanted in the United States for the bombings of those two embassies. Is that evidence enough for you, professor, for the United States to go in and get this man? Is it enough? BOYLE: That, that matter was treated and handled as an act of international terrorism in accordance with the normal laws and procedures of the United States of America as a question of domestic and international law enforcement. And I am suggesting that is the way we need to proceed here... O'REILLY: Well, wait. You're dodging the question professor. BOYLE: ... unless we have evidence that... O'REILLY: Wait, professor. Professor. This is a no spin zone. Hold it. Hold it. Even out in Urbana Champagne, the no spin zone rules. You're dodging the question. There is an absolutely rock solid arrest warrant out for this man. Evidence in court, testimony by people who did the bombings that this man was behind it. Is that enough evidence for you to have the United States go in and get him now? Is it enough? BOYLE: The United States has been attempting to secure his extradition from Afghanistan. I support... O'REILLY: Yeah, that's long enough. BOYLE: I support that approach as international... O'REILLY: Come on already, I mean, eight years, we've been attempting to extradite this guy. Now's the time to tell the Afghans you've got 48 hours or 72 hours to turn him over. You don't turn him over, we're coming in and getting him. You try to stop us, and you're toast. Enough is enough, professor. BOYLE: That's vigilantism. It is not what the United States of America is supposed to stand for. We are supposed to stand... O'REILLY: No, what that is is protecting the country from terrorists who kill civilians. BOYLE: ... for rule of law. O'REILLY: It's not vigilantism. BOYLE: We are supposed to stand for rule of law, and that is clearly vigilantism. There is a Security Council, there is Congress, there are procedures and there are laws, and they are there to protect all of us here in the United States as well as... O'REILLY: So, you're telling me... BOYLE: ... as well as our servicemen and women. Look, Bill, if we allegedly, as you put it, go in, you are not going in, I am not going in. It's going to be young men and women serving in our armed forces... O'REILLY: And that's their job. To protect us. But, professor, let me, you know, what you're saying is, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. B0YLE: ... with the constitution and the laws of the United States. O'REILLY: We're not violating any laws here, professor. No one is going to violate the law. There is going to be a state of war induced against states, states, terroristic states, who have attacked us. And what you're saying is, though, and correct me if I'm wrong, you're saying that even though there is a legitimate warrant out for Osama bin Laden's arrest, and even though most civilized nations would honor that warrant and turn him over to us, extradite him to us, the vast majority of nations on earth would do that, you still are opposed for the United States to demand that the Taliban government arrest this man and turn him over? You are opposed to that? BOYLE: During the Gulf War, President Bush father, who has far more experience that the current president Bush, got a Security Council resolution authorizing the United States of America to use force to expel Iraq from Kuwait. Second, President Bush father got a War Powers Authorization Resolution from Congress that gave him the constitutional authority to use military force to enforce that Security Council resolution. What I'm calling for here is the same adherence to international law and the United States constitution that the first President Bush adhered to in dealing with Iraq. O'REILLY: Well, you'll get that, professor. That's just a formality. There -- nobody on Capitol Hill right now, they're not going to -- there's no profile of courages up there anyway, usually. They're going to give President Bush what he wants. If he wants a War Powers Act, they're going to give it to him. He wants a declaration, they're going to give it to him. BOYLE: Actually, they're arguing about it right now... O'REILLY: They're going to give it to him. But I'm not interested in that, because it's going to happen. It's going to happen. BOYLE: The reports -- no, the reports I read was that this President Bush initially asked for a blank check, and Congress balked because they had been suckered once before... O'REILLY: All right, I'm not -- speculation is not what I'm in -- all right, professor. I don't want to speculate. I'm just going to say in my opinion he's going to have the authority to go in and get Osama bin Laden and his pals, wherever they are. He will get that authority, whether it takes a day or a week, he'll get it. And once he gets it, now, that's what I want to talk about here. Once he gets it, are you and others like you going to say, oh, no, we shouldn't do this, even though we have proof of the man's -- masterminded the bombings in Africa and the Cole,testimony in Yemen, are you going to still say, even after the authority is granted by Congress, which it will be, no, don't do it, let Afghanistan handle him? Are you going to still do that, professor? BOYLE: Second, like his father, his father also got authorization from the United States, the United Nations Security Council under chapter seven of the United Nations charter... O'REILLY: Oh, you want to go to U.N. now? You want the U.N. involved now. BOYLE: Is exactly what his father did... O'REILLY: So what? BOYLE: And that's exactly right. O'REILLY: His father made a huge mistake by not taking out Sadam Hussein when he could of. BOYLE: His father adhered to the required procedures under the United States constitution and the United Nations charter that is a treaty and the supreme law of our land. I expect the current President Bush to do exactly what his father did before he starts engaging in a massive military campaign in Iraq or against other countries... O'REILLY: All right, I don't know whether he's going to go -- I know he's not going to let the U.N. dictate. He might go for a consensus. He's already got it with Putin and all of our NATO allies, he's already go that. Whether he goes -- I think it would be a mistake to let -- empowering the U.N. in this situation. BOYLE: Then why did his father do this? O'REILLY: I'm going -- we're going to wrap this up with this. I'm going to give my last summation and then you can give yours, I'll give you the last word on it. This is a fugitive we're dealing with here. He has now been tied in by U.S. intelligence agencies, according to Attorney General Ashcroft and the secretary of state, tied into this horrendous bombing here in New York. The United States must make a response to this, and I am agreeing with you in a sense, it can't be a knee-jerk. It's got to be done in a methodical way. Congress will go along, they may debate it or whatever, but they will go along in either a War Powers, special War Powers Act or a declaration of war against forces hostile to the United States. Then they will go in and they will take him. This man you're looking at on the TV screen is a dead man. He should be a dead man. You don't do what he did and be allowed to walk around this earth. Now, I'm distressed, professor, by your reliance, reliance on the strict letter of propriety, when we've got 10,000 people laying in the street about 22 miles from me right now. I want deliberation. I want methodical discipline, but I also want action. We know who this guy is. We know the governments that are protecting him. We know the other rouge states that have terrorist camps there. They all have to be dealt with, in my opinion. I'll give you the last word. BOYLE: Sure, I agree with you, Bill. He is a fugitive from justice and this should be handled as a matter as other fugitives from justice of international law enforcement. If indeed there is evidence that a foreign state orchestrated and ordered an attack against the United States then clearly that is an act of war that should be dealt with as such... O'REILLY: What about harbouring? BOYLE: Right now... O'REILLY: Is harbouring an act of war? BOYLE: In my opinion, no. And under the current circumstances, I don't see it. O'REILLY: All right, professor. BOYLE: I think there is a distinction here. O'REILLY: OK, all right, wrap it up, if you would. BOYLE: I agree -- I agree that the -- if we go to war in a hasty manner here, we could see thousands of U.S. military personnel being killed without proper authorization by Congress or by the United Nations Security Council. O'REILLY: OK. BOYLE: Our founding fathers decided that the most awesome decision we would ever make would be to go to war, and we have to be very careful in making that decision. O'REILLY: All right, professor, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for your point of view. BOYLE: Thank you, Bill. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) __._,_.___ ________________________________ Posted by: "Boyle, Francis A" > ________________________________ Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1) Visit Your Group · New Members 2 [Yahoo! 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It contains material not only on 9/11 Truth but many other issues including Holocaust revision (not denial).In just this short amount of time over 10,000 views from multiple websites have been tallied despite what many on the Peace-discuss list view as controversial material.I work in an international sphere and the resistance I get locally is immaterial. Despite this resistance, I believe there are some local persons that want to see this.I will not respond to any negative replies to this email. JAMES FETZER | | | | | | | | | | | JAMES FETZER | | | | Jim Fetzer On the eve of the 15th observance of the atrocities of 9/11, Stephen Francis and I have concluded that a second Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference is warranted, especially in light of the new evidence that has been presented in the new book, AMERICA NUKED ON 9/11: COMPLIMENTS OF THE CIA, THE NEOCONS IN THE DOD AND THE MOSSAD (2016), which substantiates what happened: While the first Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference featured three speakers, including Wayne Madsen, the second features a broader array of experts, including several civil and structural engineers, who review the proof that this was a nuclear event. Some of the presentations here originally appeared on "The Real Deal", but were so comprehensive and thorough that we have included them here again.                  The Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 1: Jim Fetzer, "What we know now we didn't know then" Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer and McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth, founded Scholars for 9/11 Truth in December 2005 and invited Steven Jones, Ph.D., to join him as co-chair. Ironically, they split over Jones' commitment to nanothermite and his opposition to introducing alternative theories into 9/11 research. Those who view this conference will be well-positioned to decide which of them had it right. Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 2: Dennis Cimino, "9/11: Who was responsible and why" Dennis Cimino, who has extensive engineering and support experience with military electronics, predominantly US Navy Combat Systems, was the Navy’s top EMI troubleshooter before he went to work for Raytheon in the 1980s. He has collaborated with Jim Fetzer on many articles and videos about “false flag” attacks. In this presentation, he and Jim review 9/11 for the perspective of who was responsible and why and how we know.          PART II: WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE  Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 9: Susan Lindauer, "My relations with Saddam Hussein" Susan Lindauer, a former CIA asset who served as liaison between the CIA and Saddam Hussein, recounts her experiences with the agency and Saddam's desire to avoid war with the United States, where he offered to buy 1,000,000 cars a year for the next ten years--and, he aded, "If that is not enough, make it twenty!" Imagine where American would be economically if, instead of squandering four to five trillion in laying waste to the Middle East, we had developed the US infrastructure. Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 10: Scott Bennett, "9/11 from the inside" Scott Bennett, a former Army intel and psyops officer, has become a whistleblower of the financial scams that have been perpetrated under the guise of 9/11. His short of being tried in a civilian court for an offense on a military base became the first installment in an extraordinary saga that led to his incarceration with one of the financial geniuses who was behind the scheme to make money for prominent figures in the government, including Hillary and the Clinton Foundation. Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 11: Nicholas Kollerstrom, "Israeli complicity in 9/11" Nick Kollerstrom, an historian of science from the UK and the world's leading authority on the 7/7 London subway bombings (whose book, Terror on the Tube, is now in its 3rd edition), reviews some of the most striking on-the-scene indications of Israeli complicity in 9/11, including the arrest of the five "Dancing Israelis", who were held for 41 days and then released and allowed to return to Israel, where they went on Israeli television and explained that they had been there "to document the event". Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 12: Preston James, "Complexities of the 9/11 Cover Up" Preston James, a social psychologist with a Ph.D. from a Big 10 university, discusses the complex moves that were made to cover up the complicity of Israel in planning and staging 9/11, where many false clues were planted to through off even serious and sincere investigators of the crime. He draws a number of parallels with the assassination of JFK, where it becomes apparent that the United States has had a succession of presidents who would never have occupied the office but for the death of JFK. Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 13: Alan Sabrosky, "The Rationale behind 9/11" Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan), received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years of service at the US Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute, and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research. He has been among the most outspoken critics of 9/11 and has not hesitated to identify the interests and parties that were responsible for committing these atrocities upon the American people. Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 and Cultural Marxism" Stephen Francis proposed the first Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference, which was held on the campus of the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign (22 September 2013) and, as the 15th observance of 9/11 approached, he and Jim Fetzer decided the time was right for a second. Here Stephen offers a meta-perspective placing the events of 9/11 within a broader cultural context that offers a broader point of view for understanding the events of that tragic and fateful day.  Click here to return to Part 1 of the Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference. Special thanks to Gary King for the excellence of his work in rendering these interviews for publication here. POSTED BY JIM FETZER AT 10:12 AM 1 COMMENTS The Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II, Part 1: How it was done Jim Fetzer On the eve of the 15th observance of the atrocities of 9/11, Stephen Francis and I have concluded that a second Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference is warranted, especially in light of the new evidence that has been presented in the new book, AMERICA NUKED ON 9/11: COMPLIMENTS OF THE CIA, THE NEOCONS IN THE DOD AND THE MOSSAD (2016), which substantiates what happened: While the first Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference featured three speakers, including Wayne Madsen, the second features a broader array of experts, including several civil and structural engineers, who review the proof that this was a nuclear event. Some of the presentations here originally appeared on "The Real Deal", but were so comprehensive and thorough that we have included them here again.                  The Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 1: Jim Fetzer, "What we know now we didn't know then" Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer and McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth, founded Scholars for 9/11 Truth in December 2005 and invited Steven Jones, Ph.D., to join him as co-chair. Ironically, they split over Jones' commitment to nanothermite and his opposition to introducing alternative theories into 9/11 research. Those who view this conference will be well-positioned to decide which of them had it right. Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 2: Dennis Cimino, "9/11: Who was responsible and why" Dennis Cimino, who has extensive engineering and support experience with military electronics, predominantly US Navy Combat Systems, was the Navy’s top EMI troubleshooter before he went to work for Raytheon in the 1980s. He has collaborated with Jim Fetzer on many articles and videos about “false flag” attacks. In this presentation, he and Jim review 9/11 from the perspective of who was responsible and why--and how we know.                        PART I: HOW IT WAS DONE Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 3: Chuck Boldwyn, "The Towers could not Collapse" Chuck Boldwyn, a retired high-school math, physics and chemistry teacher, puts the combination of elements together that appear to have been used to destroy the World Trade Center, not just the Twin Towers but WTC-6 and WTC-7 as well, using nano-thermite combined with mini or micro nukes, which appear to have been refined from the nuclear warheads of Davy Crockett recoilless rifles, which were given to Israel by the US to be refined and brought back for deployment on 9/11.  Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 4: T. Mark Hightower,  "The Myth of Explosive Nanothermite" T. Mark Hightower, a chemical engineer, did pioneering work on nanothermite in 2011, which demonstrate that nanothermite cannot possibly have been responsible on its own for the destruction of the Twin Towers. That is simply a myth. He and I did a radio interview on "The Real Deal" discussing these issues in even greater detail. One article he cites, "Nanothermite: If it doesn't fit, you must acquit!", can be found on-line here as well as in the book. It is disappointing that A&E911 has not been responsive to this evidence, which falsifies its preferred theory of how it was done. Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 5: Charles Pegelow, P.E. (ret.), "It looks like nukes" Charles Pegelow, P.E. (ret.) Civil/Structural EngineerCharles has long held the key to understanding what happened in New York on 9/11 is accounting for between 70 and 90,000-tons of steel, which is missing and appears to have been vaporized. He believes that this was a nuclear event--probably 4th generation devices--substantiated by the US Geological Survey dust sample studies exposing nuclear elements. He thinks A&E911 should have made progress beyond nano-thermite and WTC-7 by now. Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 6: Joe Olson, "Unequivocal 9/11 Nukes" Joe Olson, a license civil and structural engineer, reviews the evidence from the World Trade Center and explains how we know that the destruction of the Twin Towers was done using nuclear devices, which has been confirmed by the US Geological dust study evidence and by the epidemiological data of medical maladies suffered by first responders and residents in the vicinity of Ground Zero. Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 7: Don Fox, "Some Elements of Nuclear Events" Don Fox has done extensive research on the role of mini-nukes by Dr. Ed Ward and on work by The Anonymous Physicist on the towers and has formulated an account of how it was done and why there is more to this story relative to very low-yield thermonuclear devices. In this presentation, he talks about the structure of the atom and the effects that result from fission and fusion events, with special concern for the correlations between the elements discovered in the US Geological Survey studies. Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference II: Session 8: Dennis Cimino, "What Happened at the Pentagon" Dennis Cimino, who has extensive engineering and support experience with military electronics, predominantly US Navy Combat Systems, was the Navy’s top EMI troubleshooter before he went to work for Raytheon in the 1980s. He has collaborated with Jim Fetzer on many articles about “false ag” attacks. In this presentation, he and Jim discussed what did and did not happen at the Pentagon on 9/11. Click for the rest of the second Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference, "Who was responsible and why".POSTED BY JIM FETZER AT 8:30 AM 14 COMMENTS Professor of Medicine: Hillary has Subcortical Vascular Dementia and less than 1 year to live "Hillary Clinton has 1 Year to Live"--Medical School Professor Published 7 September 2016  I am a professor at a medical school. I have taught at three institutions (currently in my third). I will not provide my exact credentials because several people who have tried to speak out against Hillary Clinton have been killed (look up "Clinton Body Count"). The Clintons have also ruined the lives of others who have spoken out, including Drew Pinsky. Drew Pinsky had his show canceled and received death threats, and Huffington Post writer David Seaman was terminated and is living in hiding for his columns about Hillary's health. Thanks for understanding the reason why I do not disclose my exact credentials.  Hillary Clinton might actually have 1 year to live based on medical records that were leaked indicating she has a disease called Subcortical Vascular Dementia. While many videos have been made about her health, all of them have missed the severity of her illness. She could die very soon, since Vascular Dementia is progressive and has a 3-5 year life expectancy. Clinton actually has a severe form of the disease that impacts the subcortex region of the brain, which includes the brainstem. This might explain why Clinton is dry-coughing so much. The brainstem controls primitive functions of the body like breathing, heart rate, and blood pressure. When there is ischemia to this region, B/P, HR, and breathing won't function correctly. Hillary's cough is so noticeable because she can't seem to get over it. Most people only need a couple of coughs and they are able to overcome what is in their throat. But not Hillary. Hillary has tried to explain that she has an "allergic cough." This is completely false and a lie. Based on her medical records, it is related to her Vascular Dementia, which she is dying of. She could rapidly decline if circulation is weak to the brainstem. I am very concerned about Hillary, and if her VaD diagnosis is true, she would likely face increasing difficulties over the next few months.  | | | Here is the notes to which she refers, which lacks the letterhead. | Hillary's health record also states that she has "complex partial seizures." I have witnessed many people who have had seizures, and I believe Hillary is definitely showing signs of seizing activity. With complex partial seizures, one can show signs such as head nodding or lip smacking. Hillary, has had several instances where she appears to have had a seizure, the most well-known is when she was in front of a group of reporters. External, noxious stimuli can trigger seizing in certain individuals. Hillary had a seizure in front of the reporters. Not unsurprisingly, they are trying to control her seizures using a Diazepam autoinjector. Autoinjectors are used with urgent drugs such as Diazepam and Epinephrine in order to stop an life-threatening event from happening. If Hillary has seizures, they could cause an oxygen deficiency in the brain, resulting in damage and further progression of her VaD. An autoinjector is needed to control the seizure.  | | | Her campaign insists that this man is a Secret Service Agent. If so, he is no ordinary one. | Many doctors are not speaking out about Hillary's health, but trust me, they are thinking about it and talking amongst themselves. If you specialize in neurosurgery, neurology, or neurovascular specialities as a doctor, no doubt it is quite obvious that Hillary has a big problem. She can barely walk up stairs and can't stand very long, has to hold on to side rails, etc. This makes sense, because she has VaD of the subcortex which involves the cerebellum (involved in controlling gross motor movements). Hillary, for the most part, can still deliver scripted speeches on green screens, so she still has some function. However, VaD will result in a rapid decline in function of the patient. VaD has a average life expectancy of 3-5 years (about 4 years according to the NHS). Hillary is entering into her final year of life since she was diagnosed with VaD in 2013. Why is she running for president if she is going to die soon? Does it have to do with Obama's Third Term?  Music: Beethoven's Symphony No.7 in A major op.92 - II, Allegretto Ross Bugden "Flight Hymn"POSTED BY JIM FETZER AT 7:26 AM 3 COMMENTS SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 2016 The Wisconsin State Journal betrays The State of Wisconsin Jim Fetzer When The Wisconsin State Journal (19 August 2016) published an article by Mark Sommerhauser, who claimed that there is no evidence of the theft of elections in Wisconsin, as Roger Stone had claimed in a recent piece in The Hill (16 August 2016), I was incensed because there is a mountain of proof not only of election theft in Wisconsin but that it has happened here five times, including Scott Walker's recall election, his reelection against Mary Burke, and the recent primary pitting Ted Cruz against Donald Trump, to which Stone had drawn attention in his article, which the WSJ dismissed: I knew this to be the case from my previous collaboration with Richard Charnin, who is a brilliant statistician and the author of two books on the theft of elections using electronic voting machines, where we had published "Voter Fraud vs. Election Theft: Scott Walker's Wisconsin Reelection" (10 July 2015), which documented the theft with a series of graphs that prove it. I had hoped writing to the reporter who had published a false denial with copies to the publisher and senior editors at the WSJ, something would come of it. Apparently, the publisher cares no more about the truth than his reporter, who, in my view, deserves to be fired. The Journal is betraying the State of Wisconsin! Here is the letter I sent: | | James Fetzer jfetzer at d.umn.edu | | Aug 25 (9 days ago) | |   | | | to msommerhauser, wsjcity, wsjopine, mbeck, pbrinkman, mdefour, ghesselberg, jhumenik, smilfred, mpitsch, jsmalley, Mitch  | | Mark, Your article, "Walker: 'Sideshow' focus hurts Trump", includes the provably false claim that allegations of the theft of as many as five Wisconsin elections using voting machines "are not supported by evidence". But that is simply wrong.  I sent a letter to the editor, which the paper has yet to publish, presumably on the ground that the theft of elections in Wisconsin does not matter to anyone here. After all, while Scott Walker is gutting the state, who should give a damn? ​The article I cite, "Voter Fraud vs. Election Theft: Scott Walker's Wisconsin Reelection", can effortlessly be found on the internet. Apparently, no one at The Wisconsin State Journal cares enough to bother to verify what I am reporting here, which is an abdication of the responsibility of the paper to the citizens of the state, not to mention dedication to truth! ​So apparently there IS evidence of the theft of Wisconsin elections using voting machines, which I cite in the article based upon Richard Charnin's brilliant research, as an expert statistician who has published two books on the theft of elections using voting machines. There are multiple graphs there and citations of his more extensive research on this matter. When Roger Stone makes an effort to bring this to the attention to the public, you abuse your position to dismiss his piece either without doing any research to confirm or disconfirm it or by deliberately distortion the facts. The state is undergoing a wrecking operation because Walker and his Republican cronies know they are immune from being removed from office.  Not only are you massively derelict as a reporter but, along with the WSJ itself, a disgrace and a discredit to Wisconsin. You deserve to be fired! Jim James H. Fetzer, Ph.D.McKnight Professor EmeritusUniversity of Minnesota Duluthhttp://www.d.umn.edu/~jfetzer/Editor, moonrockbooks.com Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, is McKnight Professor Emeritus on the Duluth Campus of the University of Minnesota Duluth.POSTED BY JIM FETZER AT 8:57 AM 3 COMMENTS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 2016 AMERICA NUKED ON 9/11: Targeting a book to promote 9/11 research Jim Fetzer The Cambridge University Press journal, Behavioral and Brain Sciences, became an instant sensation by publishing target articles on specific, well-defined subjects and inviting experts from around the world to post critical commentaries about it, which has resulted in significant advances in research. During the 9/11 Truth Teleconference on 31 August 2016, I proposed that the new book about 9/11, which has 15 contributors, might serve a similar purpose and thereby similarly significantly advance 9/11 research. Here are some of the important reasons to believe that we ought to adopt that suggestion. The book is divided into 28 chapters, where the core falls into 8 sections that, in reverse order, focus upon "9/11 Limited Hangouts","The Myth of Nanothermite", "The 9/11 Crash Sites", "The Pentagon: What didn't Happen", "New York was Nuked on 9/11", "What happened on 9/11", and "9/11: Who was responsible and why", Parts I and II, with three chapters each. It has a Preface and a Prologue as well as an Epilogue and an Afterword with an Index. Softcover, 458 pages, 338 photos, priced low at $20. There are three major groups in 9/11 research--A&E911, which supports the use of nanothermite and focuses on Building 7; Judy Wood and DEWs, which promotes Directed Energy Weapons and no planes theory; and Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which advances the use of mini or micro nukes to blow apart the Twin Towers and likewise contends that none of the official 9/11 aircraft actually crashed on 9/11. The contributors explain why A&E911 is right about Building 7 but wrong about nanothermite and why Judy Wood and DEWs is right about no planes but wrong about DEWs. Because the arguments and evidence presented are specific and detailed, the book facilitates a level of intellectual engagement that is missing from most discussions about 9/11. In relation to nanothermite, for example, three chapters explain that it is a law of materials science that, in order for an explosive to blow apart a material, it must have a detonation velocity equal to or greater than the speed of sound in that material. The speed of sound in concrete is 3,200 m/s; in steel, it is 6,100 m/s; but the highest detonation velocity attributed to nanothermite in the scientific literature is only 895 m/s. And the three chapters in the book that make these points were originally published in 2011--over 5 years ago! The Latest from A&E911 That makes it obvious that those who want to defend the use of nanothermite in the destruction of the Twin Towers need to explainwhat else was used to bring that effect about. While it is certainly true that something else could have been added to make it explosive, A&E911 has been reluctant to say what that something else could have been. The same, of course, could be said of toothpaste, which is also non-explosive but could be made explosive by adding an explosive to it. After all these years, it is not unreasonable to expect that A&E911 should have an answer to that question. But that does not seem to be the case. Here is a report about the state of its research on 9/11, which has just appeared: While the article presents proof that the "official narrative" of 9/11 cannot be sustained, it does not advance anything that has not been widely known with the 9/11 research community in the past. If you compare these propositions with my own "20 reasons the 'official account' of 9/11 is wrong", for example, you can see that the latest from A&E911 does not significantly advance our knowledge and understanding beyond what was available then, where "20 reasons" wasoriginally published on 9/11 of 2011! Surely we should be able to expect more from an organization that has such a high profile and tends to consume the attention of the public and media. Just compare their respective contents: Judy Wood and DEWs Indeed, some might be tempted to argue that the earlier article covered more ground that the latest from A&E. But Judy Wood and DEWs have not been doing any better. Consider, for example, that a review of her book, WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? (2010), which I originally published on 20 May 2012, was subsequently downgraded from 5-star to 3-star on the basis of research presented during The Vancouver Hearings, which were held in June 2012. It has been subject to attack around 7,500 times now. But denouncing evidence of the use of nukes does not explain it away, where Judy has displayed the unscientific attitude of ignoring it. A scientist would instead take into account new evidence not previously considered and adapt their theory appropriately by accepting hypotheses that had been previously rejected, rejecting hypotheses previously accepted, leaving others in suspense: The point is that the specificity of the arguments presented in this new book make it possible to make advances by citing specific propositions that are laid out in detail with the evidence supporting them, which enables those who disagree to explain what they have wrong and how we know. Otherwise, we are left in the muddle of having to deal with distorted versions of those arguments, which do not come to grips with the evidence and leaving issues hanging. That was exhibited perfectly during the 9/11 Truth Teleconference, when Adam Ruff and Wayne Costa challenged my explanation of how we know that this was a nuclear event, which were nice illustrations of the point that I am making here. Objections raised during the call I observed that the conversion of material into very fine dust and the vaporization of 60-80,000 tons of steel are indicative of the use of nukes as well as the destruction of the buildings to or even below ground level. Wayne Costa replied that elements "that shouldn't be there" does not take into account that some of those elements could have been present because of naturally occurring concentrations of those elements or from other sources. That sounded persuasive but, as the book explains, they would not have been there in the quantities discovered and the correlations between them had this not been a nuclear event. There would have been less likelihood of misunderstanding using the book as a basis. Adam Ruff contended that there would have been no reason to use nukes because everything that was done could have been done with nanothermite and explosives. Ruff said that there was "a giant pile of debris", but ignored the point that there was no massive stack of debris in the towers' footprints! Comparisons with Building 7 are instructive here, because experience with controlled demolitions have shown that they leave a stack of debris equal to about 12% of their original heights. At 47 floors, WTC-7 left just that residue in a stack of debris 5.5 floors high. But that was not true of the Twin Towers, which, had they been demolished as Ruff suggests, should have left debris piles 14-15 floors high but did not: | | | Compare the debris from WTC-7 (left) with that from WTC-1 (right), which should have been more than twice as high. | Indeed, while it is appropriate to describe the destruction of WTC-7 as a "controlled demolition", it is not appropriate to use the same phrase for the Twin Towers, which were "demolitions under control" but lacked the characteristics of controlled demolitions. The reason for having to have used a novel technique for their destruction appears to have been to protect the bathtub, which was an enormous dike within which the towers were constructed to protect them from Hudson River water. Had the bathtub been breeched, it would have flooded beneath lower Manhattan, the most valuable real estate in the world, including the subway and PATH train tunnels, which they wanted at all cost to avoid. The use of mini or micro nukes, which have dialable radii and can be directed upward, means that the destruction of the Twin Towers qualified as the use of "Directed Energy Weapons", which, according to Judy Wood, are devices that provide far more energy than conventional and can be directed. Set at 100' in the core columns, they would have had a diameter of 200' for buildings that were 208' on a side. Their use enabled the destruction of both buildings from the top down in an effort to simulate collapse. But they were being blown apart in every direction and converted into millions of cubic yards of very fine dust. And this appears to be how it was done as the USGS dust studies substantiate. Other arguments could be made, of course, including that the final spire of the North Tower seems to run counter to the use of nukes. But even at Hiroshima, the scaffolding of a lone church remained after the enormous blast had done its damage. And these were mini or micro nukes, whose use has also been confirmed by the debilitating medical maladies incurred by first responders and residents of the area, which include non-Hodgkins lymphoma, leukemia, thyroid, pancreatic, brain, esophageal, prostate and blood and plasma cancers at rates far above normal, which Jeff Prager was among the first to point out and whererecent estimates have placed the number affected at close to 70,000. For those who regard characterizing A&E911 and Judy Wood and DEWs as "limited hangouts", the argument is straightforward. We have three major problems to solve about 9/11: the WHO, the HOW and the WHY. Both of those organizations only address the HOW and refuse to explain the WHO or the WHY. That is simply absurd for 9/11 Truth organizations. Only Scholars for 9/11 Truth addresses all three.AMERICA NUKED ON 9/11: Compliments of the CIA, the Neocons in the DOD and the Mossad (2016) lays out the evidence in detail. But we make no claims to infallibility--and the best test of the validity of our case is critical attempts to refute it, which can be accomplished if we make this book the target for scrutiny and criticism and thereby advance the cause of exposing 9/11 Truth. Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, is McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth and the founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Sep 11 18:53:26 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 18:53:26 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Francis Boyle sent you a video: "Forum on the Persian Gulf - 1990" In-Reply-To: <001a114f36145e1aa8053c3fd0de@google.com> References: <001a114f36145e1aa8053c3fd0de@google.com> Message-ID: Another blast from the past by Jeff. I really like Bob’s Hairdo. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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URL: From stuartnlevy at gmail.com Mon Sep 12 04:54:22 2016 From: stuartnlevy at gmail.com (Stuart Levy) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 23:54:22 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Events this week - two re #NoDAPL opposing Dakota Access oil pipeline (#NoDAPL) Message-ID: <7578850b-1754-0de3-38b3-b1fb28abb045@gmail.com> Upcoming events - including **two** related to the Dakota Access Oil Pipeline, on Mon 9/12 (6:30 Urbana), and on Fri 9/16 (5pm Champaign). The Friday 5pm Scott Park (Champaign) event is Native-led and organized, in solidarity with the Standing Rock water protectors in North Dakota, where thousands of Native people are assembled in peaceful opposition to the Dakota Access Pipeline. Hope you can attend, and please let others know. Hope too: at 6:30pm Wednesday 9/14, please come watch Naomi Klein's film "This Changes Everything", on climate change and citizen action. Discussion to follow, including brief popup talks by several groups you can get involved with. Though not strictly anti-war events, they lie at the intersection of anticolonialism, the global geopolitics of energy, and the importance of popular resistance. Summary: Mon 9/12, 6:30pm, Urbana City Council Chambers, 400 S. Vine St, Urbana Urge Urbana City Council to *oppose **Dakota Access Pipeline (#NoDAPL)* Gather at City building at 6:30; Council meeting begins at 7. Organized by Robert Naiman. https://actionnetwork.org/events/nodapl-action-at-urbana-city-council-meeting?referrer=sierra-club Wed 9/14, 6:30pm-9pm, Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana "This Changes Everything" film & discussion, with popup talks by *groups you can get involved with* Film by Naomi Klein, on climate change and citizen action https://www.facebook.com/events/329641967375716/ Fri 9/16, noon-1pm, University YMCA (Friday Forum), 1001 S. Wright St., Champaign "Politics of Climate Change in Illinois", talk by Jen Walling, IL Environmental Council https://www.facebook.com/events/1047884435309318/ Fri 9/16, 5-7pm, Scott Park, Champaign (between 2nd & 3rd Sts, between Springfield and Healey) "In Solidarity with Standing Rock, the Earth, and all People, we will gather as Protectors in Peace at Scott Park in Champaign, IL" Vigil/rally solidarity with the Standing Rock water protectors, peacefully opposing the Dakota Access Pipeline. Organized by local Native people. Everyone is welcome. https://www.facebook.com/events/1787572761459012/ ================================================== ================================================== More details on the above --> Mon 9/12, 6:30pm, Urbana City Council Chambers, 400 S. Vine St, Urbana #NoDAPL -- Come urge the Urbana City Council to adopt a resolution saying that they oppose the Dakota Access Oil Pipeline, and calling on the Obama Administration to ask the Corps of Engineers to revoke its construction permit. This pipeline, running through the Dakotas, Iowa and into Illinois, would carry over a half million barrels per day of North Dakota Bakken crude oil - running through Native American lands, and putting major waterways at risk. More below, or sign up to say you're coming: https://actionnetwork.org/events/nodapl-action-at-urbana-city-council-meeting?referrer=sierra-club Wed 9/14, 6:30pm-9pm, Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana Free and open to the public - Refreshments will be served. Followed by discussion & avenues for action. https://www.facebook.com/events/329641967375716/ Inspired by Naomi Klein’s book, "This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate," this film presents seven powerful portraits of communities on the front lines of the climate crisis, and Klein contends that "we can seize the existential crisis of climate change to transform our failed economic system into something radically better." Please join us to call attention to the most important environmental issue of our time. A short trailer and more information about the film is here: http://thefilm.thischangeseverything.org/about Thanks to our cosponsors! Channing-Murray Foundation, Students for Environmental Concerns (SECS), Eco-Justice Collaborative, Faith In Place, Social Action Committee/Green UUs of the Unitarian-Universalist Church of Urbana-Champaign, IL Environmental Council, WATCH (We’re Against Toxic Chemicals), Just Foreign Policy, AWARE, C-U Friends Meeting, University YMCA, Wesley Methodist Church Green Team, Central IL Chapter of Jobs with Justice, Prairie Rivers Network, Champaign County Health Care Consumers. Fri 9/16, 5-7pm, Scott Park, Champaign (between 2nd & 3rd Sts, between Springfield and Healey) https://www.facebook.com/events/1787572761459012/ In Solidarity with Standing Rock, the Earth, and all People, we will gather as Protectors in Peace at Scott Park in Champaign, IL on Friday, September 16th from 5:00pm-7:00pm. This event is Native-organized. We ask our entire community to join us, but honor our request for this to be a Native-led and Indigenous-centered space. To that end, we’ll begin with a schedule of Indigenous speakers, followed by an open mic for all those joining us in solidarity. Community, please join us. In our tradition, all our children are our children. Everyone belongs here. OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS HAPPENING and OUR CALL TO ACTION: Thousands of Native Americans from over 100 tribes are campedon the banks of the Cannonball River in North Dakota near the Standing Rock Sioux (Dakota/Lakota) Reservation in a peaceful attempt to halt construction of the Dakota Access oil pipeline, a 1200 mile long pipeline running from the Bakken oil fields in North Dakota to southern Illinois. The protesters tell us that the pipeline is desecrating land sacred to the Standing Rock Sioux and putting critical water supplies at risk of contamination. Over Labor Day weekend, security guards for the pipeline’s owners used attack dogs and pepper spray against protesters in a manner reminiscent of civil rights protests in the 1960s. On September 8, the governor of North Dakota called in the National Guard to provide backup to local law enforcement against the protesters. Mainstream media coverage of these events has been extremely sparse to date, and most news is being transmitted via social media. This situation lends clarity to a remarkable array of issues we need to be able to think about, including caring for our beautiful planet Earth and all of the people and other creatures who share it. The events in North Dakota are an extraordinary example both of capitalist institutions aligned against pro-human, pro-environmental interests, and the 21st century model of how genocide is aimed at Indigenous peoples. This is not a time to stay silent or passive to determine what we do. Come and join the movement instead! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Sep 12 12:31:37 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 12:31:37 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] 9/11 and all that is yet to come..... Message-ID: This article captures my opinion on 9/11 and all that has followed and all that is yet to come. No response required, no discussion desired, only food for thought: Fifteen years since the 9/11 attacks 12 September 2016 Yesterday marked the fifteenth anniversary of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 that killed more than 2,900 people in the United States. Nineteen supporters of Al Qaeda, 15 of them from Saudi Arabia, like the group’s founder Osama bin Laden, hijacked four airliners. They crashed two planes into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York, demolishing them; one into the Pentagon building in Washington; and plunged the other into a field in Pennsylvania to prevent passengers retaking control of the aircraft. The horrific mass murder of thousands of civilians was not only a criminal act. It was, from a political standpoint, reactionary. It served the interests of American and world imperialism. The ruling classes in the United States, Europe and, indeed, throughout the world, exploited the horror and confusion that followed the attack to legitimize perpetual war and ever-expanding attacks on democratic rights. The “war on terror,” proclaimed by the Bush administration in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, has been based, from the start, on misinformation and outright lies. The administration declared that the United States was engaged in a life-and-death struggle against Al Qaeda. Fifteen years later, it is a basic and undisputable fact that Al Qaeda is a key ally of the United States in the far-flung military operations being conducted by the CIA, above all in Syria. The “war on terror” was invoked to justify attacks on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Yemen—countries that had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. The death toll numbers in the millions. The devastation of the region is a principal factor in the greatest refugee crisis since World War II, with over 60 million displaced persons seeking sanctuary. A decade and a half after September 11, 2001, it is clear that the events of that day were no more the cause of the wars that followed than the assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo in June 1914 was the real cause of the outbreak of World War I. The US government has never attempted to explain how and why the “war on terror” has morphed into a conflict with the larger geostrategic rivals of the United States, particularly Russia and China, which threatens to unleash World War III. One of the most remarkable facts of the 9/11 attacks is that, despite their central role in the foreign and domestic policy of the United States for fifteen years, there has never been a serious and credible investigation of what actually took place. The US intelligence agencies had ample warning of the impending attacks, had kept many of the perpetrators under active surveillance, and had longstanding ties to Osama bin Laden and his network, which was formed out of the CIA-orchestrated guerrilla warfare in Afghanistan during the 1980s against the Soviet-backed regime then in power in Kabul. No government official has ever been held accountable for what is universally described as a catastrophic intelligence failure. After Pearl Harbor—to which 9/11 is frequently compared—admirals were fired. But not a single official of the vast US military-intelligence complex lost his job after an attack carried out by well-known terrorists, many of them under state surveillance, and two of them actually living in the home of an FBI informant. Within weeks of the attacks, US and allied military forces implemented long-held plans and invaded Afghanistan, on the pretext that the Islamist Taliban government was harboring bin Laden. The Afghan war has claimed tens of thousands of lives and driven millions from their homes in Afghanistan and north-west Pakistan. It continues to this day, more than five years after bin Laden’s assassination at the safe house where he resided, near a military college in the city of Abbottabad, Pakistan, a key US ally. Within the United States, the 9/11 attacks became the pretext for intensifying attacks on democratic rights, under conditions of ever-widening social inequality and mounting class antagonisms. The congressional passage of the “Authorization for the Use of Military Force”—which enshrined the illegal doctrine of “preventative war”—gave blanket authority to the White House to attack any state it assessed as a potential threat to the military or economic interests of the American ruling class. This was followed by the passage of the Patriot Act, which created the legal framework for a police state in America. In 2002, the Bush White House cited the “war on terror” as justification for CIA rendition and torture and the establishment of an extralegal prison at Guantanamo, Cuba, where prisoners could be held indefinitely, even for life, without any judicial proceeding. This was the corollary to a criminal policy of preventive war all over the world. The Obama administration, which followed Bush, cited the same rationale for its escalating campaign of drone missile attacks, which targeted thousands for assassination at the orders of the president. Under both administrations, the US intelligence apparatus has been massively built up, systematically spying on the American population, monitoring all telecommunications and the Internet worldwide. Meanwhile, the pattern of 9/11 has been repeated endlessly, in terrorist attacks from Paris to Brussels to London to Boston. In virtually every case of attacks by Al Qaeda or ISIS operatives or sympathizers, the perpetrators have been known to the security forces. They were free to carry out their bloody work for two reasons: their organizations were doing the bidding of imperialist foreign policy, particularly in Syria; and their atrocities confuse and stampede public opinion behind war, enabling the buildup of the forces of state repression, to be used against the working class. The real motivation behind the response to 9/11 was not retaliation for the terrorist attacks. It was the establishment of a direct US military footprint in the heart of Central Asia and US dominance over the Middle East, the key oil-producing region of the globe. The result over the past 15 years has been the vast destabilization of international relations and the emergence of open US war preparations against China—the state Washington perceives as its greatest rival in Asia—along with escalating tensions with Russia, which is viewed as a threat to American dominance in both Central Asia and Europe. As David North wrote in his Preface to the volume, A Quarter Century of War: The US Drive for Global Hegemony 1990–2016: “The last quarter century of US-instigated wars must be studied as a chain of interconnected events. The strategic logic of the US drive for global hegemony extends beyond the neocolonial operations in the Middle East and Africa. The ongoing regional wars are component elements of the rapidly escalating confrontation of the United States with Russia and China.” In Eastern Europe, NATO forces are mobilizing for military confrontation with Russia, whether in the Baltic States, Ukraine, the Black Sea or the Caucasus. The same type of media campaign used to demonize Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi and Assad, in preparation for their US-backed overthrow, is now being directed at Russian President Vladimir Putin. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is leading the charge, accusing Putin of cyber-sabotage of the US elections and attacking Republican Donald Trump as a Putin stooge. In Asia, the Obama administration launched the US “pivot” to the region in 2011, redeploying the majority of US naval and air forces to battle stations where they can strike at China. The US Navy is conducting provocative “freedom of navigation” exercises against Chinese-held islets in the South China Sea, while Washington is encouraging Japanese militarism and threatening North Korea. Whatever government comes to power in the United States as a result of the November 8 election, whether headed by Clinton or Trump, will continue and escalate the program of militarism, attacks on democratic rights, and economic austerity directed against the working class. The same agenda is being pursued by all the imperialist powers. That is all that the capitalist system, dominated by global economic and political crisis, has to offer. The only alternative is the international mobilization of the working class, on the basis of a socialist and antiwar program, under the leadership of the International Committee of the Fourth International. This perspective is contained in the ICFI statement published on February 18, 2016, “Socialism and the Fight Against War.” We urge all WSWS readers who agree with the principles outlined as the foundation for a socialist and internationalist anti-war movement to join our ranks. The WSWS editorial board -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Sep 12 13:49:05 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 13:49:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My Apology Demanded by Manny Donchin Chair of UI/CIA Pseudo-Shrinks/Spooks Department Message-ID: As I had told you, after our CIA Off Campus Panel that Jeff unearthed, Manny Donchin, then Chair of our CIA Pseudo-Shrinks Spooks Department sent me a pretty nasty letter demanding an apology or else he would sue me, with copies to all the campus bigwigs. Here is my apology to Manny, with copies to all the campus bigwigs. Upon its receipt, Manny sent me a very short note thanking me for my apology and stating that the matter was closed. I just love to apologize to CIA academic whores. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Downs, Kelly Louise Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:28 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: FW: Attached Image[1] From: 324 [mailto:324-copier at law.illinois.edu] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:26 AM To: Downs, Kelly Louise > Subject: Attached Image[1] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The response to this attack finds its home in White Nationalism, that utterly rejects NeoNazismZionists and all major Jewish organizations promote immigration, political correctness, diversity, multiculturalism...it is part of their tactic (Cultural Marxism) to gain more power and promote their revolution.  It's a very difficult concept to grasp, but once you see the evidence you'll never go back. The immigration crisis in Europe is a direct result of Zionists/Israeli organizations along with George Soros, Clinton, Obama in the creation of ISIS and the fraudulent Syrian/Libyan wars.See my conference session Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference 2: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 and Cultural Marxism"Prof. Kevin McDonald, one of the speakers in our Academic Freedom Conference is actually one of the founders and a principles in the political movement that exposes the Zionist element of Cultural Marxism. He is fully aware of all the ramifications of the NeoNazi accusations and responds with scientific, rational and coherent counter arguments.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald  Prof Kevin McDonald is also one of eight directors of the American Freedom Party and is the main source of academic thought on what I've mentioned above. American Freedom Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Zionists murdered nearly 3000 people on 9/11 as a component of their Cultural Marxism plan. | | | | | | | | | | | American Freedom Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference 2: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 an... 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Events this week - two re #NoDAPL opposing Dakota Access oil       pipeline (#NoDAPL) (Stuart Levy)   2. 9/11 and all that is yet to come..... (Karen Aram) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 23:54:22 -0500 From: Stuart Levy To: Peace Cc: Peace Discuss , occupycu     Subject: [Peace-discuss] Events this week - two re #NoDAPL opposing     Dakota Access oil pipeline (#NoDAPL) Message-ID: <7578850b-1754-0de3-38b3-b1fb28abb045 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Upcoming events - including **two** related to the Dakota Access Oil Pipeline, on Mon 9/12 (6:30 Urbana), and on Fri 9/16 (5pm Champaign). The Friday 5pm Scott Park (Champaign) event is Native-led and organized, in solidarity with the Standing Rock water protectors in North Dakota, where thousands of Native people are assembled in peaceful opposition to the Dakota Access Pipeline.  Hope you can attend, and please let others know. Hope too: at 6:30pm Wednesday 9/14, please come watch Naomi Klein's film "This Changes Everything", on climate change and citizen action.  Discussion to follow, including brief popup talks by several groups you can get involved with. Though not strictly anti-war events, they lie at the intersection of anticolonialism, the global geopolitics of energy, and the importance of popular resistance. Summary: Mon 9/12, 6:30pm, Urbana City Council Chambers, 400 S. Vine St, Urbana     Urge Urbana City Council to *oppose **Dakota Access Pipeline (#NoDAPL)*     Gather at City building at 6:30; Council meeting begins at 7.  Organized by Robert Naiman.   https://actionnetwork.org/events/nodapl-action-at-urbana-city-council-meeting?referrer=sierra-club Wed 9/14, 6:30pm-9pm, Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana     "This Changes Everything" film & discussion, with popup talks by *groups you can get involved with*     Film by Naomi Klein, on climate change and citizen action     https://www.facebook.com/events/329641967375716/ Fri 9/16, noon-1pm, University YMCA (Friday Forum), 1001 S. Wright St., Champaign     "Politics of Climate Change in Illinois", talk by Jen Walling, IL Environmental Council     https://www.facebook.com/events/1047884435309318/ Fri 9/16, 5-7pm, Scott Park, Champaign (between 2nd & 3rd Sts, between Springfield and Healey)     "In Solidarity with Standing Rock, the Earth, and all People, we will gather as Protectors in Peace at Scott Park in Champaign, IL"     Vigil/rally solidarity with the Standing Rock water protectors, peacefully opposing the Dakota Access Pipeline.     Organized by local Native people.  Everyone is welcome.     https://www.facebook.com/events/1787572761459012/   ================================================== ================================================== More details on the above --> Mon 9/12, 6:30pm, Urbana City Council Chambers, 400 S. Vine St, Urbana     #NoDAPL -- Come urge the Urbana City Council to adopt a resolution saying that they oppose the Dakota Access Oil Pipeline, and calling on the Obama Administration to ask the Corps of Engineers to revoke its construction permit.  This pipeline, running through the Dakotas, Iowa and into Illinois, would carry over a half million barrels per day of North Dakota Bakken crude oil - running through Native American lands, and putting major waterways at risk.    More below, or sign up to say you're coming:   https://actionnetwork.org/events/nodapl-action-at-urbana-city-council-meeting?referrer=sierra-club Wed 9/14, 6:30pm-9pm, Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana     Free and open to the public - Refreshments will be served.      Followed by discussion & avenues for action.     https://www.facebook.com/events/329641967375716/     Inspired by Naomi Klein’s book, "This Changes Everything: Capitalism     vs. the Climate," this film presents seven powerful portraits of     communities on the front lines of the climate crisis, and Klein     contends that "we can seize the existential crisis of climate change     to transform our failed economic system into something radically     better."     Please join us to call attention to the most important environmental     issue of our time.     A short trailer and more information about the film is here:     http://thefilm.thischangeseverything.org/about         Thanks to our cosponsors! Channing-Murray Foundation, Students for     Environmental Concerns (SECS), Eco-Justice Collaborative, Faith In     Place, Social Action Committee/Green UUs of the     Unitarian-Universalist Church of Urbana-Champaign, IL Environmental     Council, WATCH (We’re Against Toxic Chemicals), Just Foreign Policy,     AWARE, C-U Friends Meeting, University YMCA, Wesley Methodist Church     Green Team, Central IL Chapter of Jobs with Justice, Prairie Rivers     Network, Champaign County Health Care Consumers. Fri 9/16, 5-7pm, Scott Park, Champaign (between 2nd & 3rd Sts, between Springfield and Healey)       https://www.facebook.com/events/1787572761459012/     In Solidarity with Standing Rock, the Earth, and all People, we will     gather as Protectors in Peace at Scott Park in Champaign, IL on     Friday, September 16th from 5:00pm-7:00pm.     This event is Native-organized. We ask our entire community to join     us, but honor our request for this to be a Native-led and     Indigenous-centered space. To that end, we’ll begin with a schedule     of Indigenous speakers, followed by an open mic for all those     joining us in solidarity. Community, please join us. In our     tradition, all our children are our children. Everyone belongs here.     OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS HAPPENING and OUR CALL TO ACTION:     Thousands of Native Americans from over 100 tribes are campedon the     banks of the Cannonball River in North Dakota near the Standing Rock     Sioux (Dakota/Lakota) Reservation in a peaceful attempt to halt     construction of the Dakota Access oil pipeline, a 1200 mile long     pipeline running from the Bakken oil fields in North Dakota to     southern Illinois. The protesters tell us that the pipeline is     desecrating land sacred to the Standing Rock Sioux and putting     critical water supplies at risk of contamination. Over Labor Day     weekend, security guards for the pipeline’s owners used attack dogs     and pepper spray against protesters in a manner reminiscent of civil     rights protests in the 1960s. On September 8, the governor of North     Dakota called in the National Guard to provide backup to local law     enforcement against the protesters. Mainstream media coverage of     these events has been extremely sparse to date, and most news is     being transmitted via social media.     This situation lends clarity to a remarkable array of issues we need     to be able to think about, including caring for our beautiful planet     Earth and all of the people and other creatures who share it. The     events in North Dakota are an extraordinary example both of     capitalist institutions aligned against pro-human, pro-environmental     interests, and the 21st century model of how genocide is aimed at     Indigenous peoples. This is not a time to stay silent or passive to     determine what we do. Come and join the movement instead! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 12:31:37 +0000 From: Karen Aram To: "peace-discuss at lists.net" , Peace Discuss     Subject: [Peace-discuss] 9/11 and all that is yet to come..... Message-ID:         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" This article captures my opinion on 9/11 and all that has followed and all that is yet to come. No response required, no discussion desired, only food for thought: Fifteen years since the 9/11 attacks 12 September 2016 Yesterday marked the fifteenth anniversary of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 that killed more than 2,900 people in the United States. Nineteen supporters of Al Qaeda, 15 of them from Saudi Arabia, like the group’s founder Osama bin Laden, hijacked four airliners. They crashed two planes into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York, demolishing them; one into the Pentagon building in Washington; and plunged the other into a field in Pennsylvania to prevent passengers retaking control of the aircraft. The horrific mass murder of thousands of civilians was not only a criminal act. It was, from a political standpoint, reactionary. It served the interests of American and world imperialism. The ruling classes in the United States, Europe and, indeed, throughout the world, exploited the horror and confusion that followed the attack to legitimize perpetual war and ever-expanding attacks on democratic rights. The “war on terror,” proclaimed by the Bush administration in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, has been based, from the start, on misinformation and outright lies. The administration declared that the United States was engaged in a life-and-death struggle against Al Qaeda. Fifteen years later, it is a basic and undisputable fact that Al Qaeda is a key ally of the United States in the far-flung military operations being conducted by the CIA, above all in Syria. The “war on terror” was invoked to justify attacks on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Yemen—countries that had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. The death toll numbers in the millions. The devastation of the region is a principal factor in the greatest refugee crisis since World War II, with over 60 million displaced persons seeking sanctuary. A decade and a half after September 11, 2001, it is clear that the events of that day were no more the cause of the wars that followed than the assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo in June 1914 was the real cause of the outbreak of World War I. The US government has never attempted to explain how and why the “war on terror” has morphed into a conflict with the larger geostrategic rivals of the United States, particularly Russia and China, which threatens to unleash World War III. One of the most remarkable facts of the 9/11 attacks is that, despite their central role in the foreign and domestic policy of the United States for fifteen years, there has never been a serious and credible investigation of what actually took place. The US intelligence agencies had ample warning of the impending attacks, had kept many of the perpetrators under active surveillance, and had longstanding ties to Osama bin Laden and his network, which was formed out of the CIA-orchestrated guerrilla warfare in Afghanistan during the 1980s against the Soviet-backed regime then in power in Kabul. No government official has ever been held accountable for what is universally described as a catastrophic intelligence failure. After Pearl Harbor—to which 9/11 is frequently compared—admirals were fired. But not a single official of the vast US military-intelligence complex lost his job after an attack carried out by well-known terrorists, many of them under state surveillance, and two of them actually living in the home of an FBI informant. Within weeks of the attacks, US and allied military forces implemented long-held plans and invaded Afghanistan, on the pretext that the Islamist Taliban government was harboring bin Laden. The Afghan war has claimed tens of thousands of lives and driven millions from their homes in Afghanistan and north-west Pakistan. It continues to this day, more than five years after bin Laden’s assassination at the safe house where he resided, near a military college in the city of Abbottabad, Pakistan, a key US ally. Within the United States, the 9/11 attacks became the pretext for intensifying attacks on democratic rights, under conditions of ever-widening social inequality and mounting class antagonisms. The congressional passage of the “Authorization for the Use of Military Force”—which enshrined the illegal doctrine of “preventative war”—gave blanket authority to the White House to attack any state it assessed as a potential threat to the military or economic interests of the American ruling class. This was followed by the passage of the Patriot Act, which created the legal framework for a police state in America. In 2002, the Bush White House cited the “war on terror” as justification for CIA rendition and torture and the establishment of an extralegal prison at Guantanamo, Cuba, where prisoners could be held indefinitely, even for life, without any judicial proceeding. This was the corollary to a criminal policy of preventive war all over the world. The Obama administration, which followed Bush, cited the same rationale for its escalating campaign of drone missile attacks, which targeted thousands for assassination at the orders of the president. Under both administrations, the US intelligence apparatus has been massively built up, systematically spying on the American population, monitoring all telecommunications and the Internet worldwide. Meanwhile, the pattern of 9/11 has been repeated endlessly, in terrorist attacks from Paris to Brussels to London to Boston. In virtually every case of attacks by Al Qaeda or ISIS operatives or sympathizers, the perpetrators have been known to the security forces. They were free to carry out their bloody work for two reasons: their organizations were doing the bidding of imperialist foreign policy, particularly in Syria; and their atrocities confuse and stampede public opinion behind war, enabling the buildup of the forces of state repression, to be used against the working class. The real motivation behind the response to 9/11 was not retaliation for the terrorist attacks. It was the establishment of a direct US military footprint in the heart of Central Asia and US dominance over the Middle East, the key oil-producing region of the globe. The result over the past 15 years has been the vast destabilization of international relations and the emergence of open US war preparations against China—the state Washington perceives as its greatest rival in Asia—along with escalating tensions with Russia, which is viewed as a threat to American dominance in both Central Asia and Europe. As David North wrote in his Preface to the volume, A Quarter Century of War: The US Drive for Global Hegemony 1990–2016: “The last quarter century of US-instigated wars must be studied as a chain of interconnected events. The strategic logic of the US drive for global hegemony extends beyond the neocolonial operations in the Middle East and Africa. The ongoing regional wars are component elements of the rapidly escalating confrontation of the United States with Russia and China.” In Eastern Europe, NATO forces are mobilizing for military confrontation with Russia, whether in the Baltic States, Ukraine, the Black Sea or the Caucasus. The same type of media campaign used to demonize Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi and Assad, in preparation for their US-backed overthrow, is now being directed at Russian President Vladimir Putin. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is leading the charge, accusing Putin of cyber-sabotage of the US elections and attacking Republican Donald Trump as a Putin stooge. In Asia, the Obama administration launched the US “pivot” to the region in 2011, redeploying the majority of US naval and air forces to battle stations where they can strike at China. The US Navy is conducting provocative “freedom of navigation” exercises against Chinese-held islets in the South China Sea, while Washington is encouraging Japanese militarism and threatening North Korea. Whatever government comes to power in the United States as a result of the November 8 election, whether headed by Clinton or Trump, will continue and escalate the program of militarism, attacks on democratic rights, and economic austerity directed against the working class. The same agenda is being pursued by all the imperialist powers. That is all that the capitalist system, dominated by global economic and political crisis, has to offer. The only alternative is the international mobilization of the working class, on the basis of a socialist and antiwar program, under the leadership of the International Committee of the Fourth International. This perspective is contained in the ICFI statement published on February 18, 2016, “Socialism and the Fight Against War.” We urge all WSWS readers who agree with the principles outlined as the foundation for a socialist and internationalist anti-war movement to join our ranks. The WSWS editorial board -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss ------------------------------ End of Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 89 ********************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Mon Sep 12 14:44:36 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 09:44:36 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 89 In-Reply-To: <19437610.2816554.1473688254667@mail.yahoo.com> References: <19437610.2816554.1473688254667@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008b01d20d04$2f996ce0$8ecc46a0$@comcast.net> Stephen, You have this unbelievable ability of shooting yourself ( your credibility ) in the foot every time some of begin to think that you may be a little confused in your analysis and somewhat misunderstood, and that you may have some redeeming qualities. This posting blows away any and all shreds of credibility or decency that some may have thought you had. NEWS FLASH – “ White Nationalism “ IS FASCISM which differs from Nazism only in minor detail if it differs at all. And by it’s very nature IS RACIST ! David Johnson From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:51 AM To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net; Stephen Francis Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 89 Response to WSWS article Socialism actually could be the best form of government, but not if it is run or influenced by Zionism. There is an insidious and complex plot by Zionists to destroy traditional white culture to further their world revolution goals going back to the Jewish Bolshevik political revolution, that has now been replaced by a cultural revolution...named: Cultural Marxism (CM). The response to this attack finds its home in White Nationalism, that utterly rejects NeoNazism Zionists and all major Jewish organizations promote immigration, political correctness, diversity, multiculturalism...it is part of their tactic (Cultural Marxism) to gain more power and promote their revolution. It's a very difficult concept to grasp, but once you see the evidence you'll never go back. The immigration crisis in Europe is a direct result of Zionists/Israeli organizations along with George Soros, Clinton, Obama in the creation of ISIS and the fraudulent Syrian/Libyan wars. See my conference session Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference 2: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 and Cultural Marxism" Prof. Kevin McDonald, one of the speakers in our Academic Freedom Conference is actually one of the founders and a principles in the political movement that exposes the Zionist element of Cultural Marxism. He is fully aware of all the ramifications of the NeoNazi accusations and responds with scientific, rational and coherent counter arguments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald Prof Kevin McDonald is also one of eight directors of the American Freedom Party and is the main source of academic thought on what I've mentioned above. American Freedom Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Zionists murdered nearly 3000 people on 9/11 as a component of their Cultural Marxism plan. Description: https://s.yimg.com/vv/api/res/1.2/uwGfG66_nt_zpndEIlbdfA--/YXBwaWQ9bWFpbDtmaT1maWxsO2g9MjAwO3c9NDAw/https:/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/03/American3PositionParty.png/250px-American3PositionParty.png.cf.jpg - Description: https://s.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/12/overlay-tile.png American Freedom Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Description: Image removed by sender. Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference 2: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 an... Stephen Francis proposed the first Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference, which was held on the campus of the University... Kevin MacDonald on Cultural Marxism 1/5 Description: Image removed by sender. Kevin MacDonald on Cultural Marxism 1/5 Professor of Psychology at California Long Beach and author of the book "Culture of Critique", Profess... On Monday, September 12, 2016 8:32 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Events this week - two re #NoDAPL opposing Dakota Access oil pipeline (#NoDAPL) (Stuart Levy) 2. 9/11 and all that is yet to come..... (Karen Aram) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 23:54:22 -0500 From: Stuart Levy To: Peace Cc: Peace Discuss , occupycu Subject: [Peace-discuss] Events this week - two re #NoDAPL opposing Dakota Access oil pipeline (#NoDAPL) Message-ID: <7578850b-1754-0de3-38b3-b1fb28abb045 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Upcoming events - including **two** related to the Dakota Access Oil Pipeline, on Mon 9/12 (6:30 Urbana), and on Fri 9/16 (5pm Champaign). The Friday 5pm Scott Park (Champaign) event is Native-led and organized, in solidarity with the Standing Rock water protectors in North Dakota, where thousands of Native people are assembled in peaceful opposition to the Dakota Access Pipeline. Hope you can attend, and please let others know. Hope too: at 6:30pm Wednesday 9/14, please come watch Naomi Klein's film "This Changes Everything", on climate change and citizen action. Discussion to follow, including brief popup talks by several groups you can get involved with. Though not strictly anti-war events, they lie at the intersection of anticolonialism, the global geopolitics of energy, and the importance of popular resistance. Summary: Mon 9/12, 6:30pm, Urbana City Council Chambers, 400 S. Vine St, Urbana Urge Urbana City Council to *oppose **Dakota Access Pipeline (#NoDAPL)* Gather at City building at 6:30; Council meeting begins at 7. Organized by Robert Naiman. https://actionnetwork.org/events/nodapl-action-at-urbana-city-council-meeting?referrer=sierra-club Wed 9/14, 6:30pm-9pm, Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana "This Changes Everything" film & discussion, with popup talks by *groups you can get involved with* Film by Naomi Klein, on climate change and citizen action https://www.facebook.com/events/329641967375716/ Fri 9/16, noon-1pm, University YMCA (Friday Forum), 1001 S. Wright St., Champaign "Politics of Climate Change in Illinois", talk by Jen Walling, IL Environmental Council https://www.facebook.com/events/1047884435309318/ Fri 9/16, 5-7pm, Scott Park, Champaign (between 2nd & 3rd Sts, between Springfield and Healey) "In Solidarity with Standing Rock, the Earth, and all People, we will gather as Protectors in Peace at Scott Park in Champaign, IL" Vigil/rally solidarity with the Standing Rock water protectors, peacefully opposing the Dakota Access Pipeline. Organized by local Native people. Everyone is welcome. https://www.facebook.com/events/1787572761459012/ ================================================== ================================================== More details on the above --> Mon 9/12, 6:30pm, Urbana City Council Chambers, 400 S. Vine St, Urbana #NoDAPL -- Come urge the Urbana City Council to adopt a resolution saying that they oppose the Dakota Access Oil Pipeline, and calling on the Obama Administration to ask the Corps of Engineers to revoke its construction permit. This pipeline, running through the Dakotas, Iowa and into Illinois, would carry over a half million barrels per day of North Dakota Bakken crude oil - running through Native American lands, and putting major waterways at risk. More below, or sign up to say you're coming: https://actionnetwork.org/events/nodapl-action-at-urbana-city-council-meeting?referrer=sierra-club Wed 9/14, 6:30pm-9pm, Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana Free and open to the public - Refreshments will be served. Followed by discussion & avenues for action. https://www.facebook.com/events/329641967375716/ Inspired by Naomi Klein’s book, "This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate," this film presents seven powerful portraits of communities on the front lines of the climate crisis, and Klein contends that "we can seize the existential crisis of climate change to transform our failed economic system into something radically better." Please join us to call attention to the most important environmental issue of our time. A short trailer and more information about the film is here: http://thefilm.thischangeseverything.org/about &h=3AQEf-AHo&enc=AZNpUujpM_o-XhI3BUHp5ILV-CtrzD8p2sEEQTaucNFT_4dcVf059Mj6Lw7Tjg4E9TQ&s=1> Thanks to our cosponsors! Channing-Murray Foundation, Students for Environmental Concerns (SECS), Eco-Justice Collaborative, Faith In Place, Social Action Committee/Green UUs of the Unitarian-Universalist Church of Urbana-Champaign, IL Environmental Council, WATCH (We’re Against Toxic Chemicals), Just Foreign Policy, AWARE, C-U Friends Meeting, University YMCA, Wesley Methodist Church Green Team, Central IL Chapter of Jobs with Justice, Prairie Rivers Network, Champaign County Health Care Consumers. Fri 9/16, 5-7pm, Scott Park, Champaign (between 2nd & 3rd Sts, between Springfield and Healey) https://www.facebook.com/events/1787572761459012/ In Solidarity with Standing Rock, the Earth, and all People, we will gather as Protectors in Peace at Scott Park in Champaign, IL on Friday, September 16th from 5:00pm-7:00pm. This event is Native-organized. We ask our entire community to join us, but honor our request for this to be a Native-led and Indigenous-centered space. To that end, we’ll begin with a schedule of Indigenous speakers, followed by an open mic for all those joining us in solidarity. Community, please join us. In our tradition, all our children are our children. Everyone belongs here. OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS HAPPENING and OUR CALL TO ACTION: Thousands of Native Americans from over 100 tribes are campedon the banks of the Cannonball River in North Dakota near the Standing Rock Sioux (Dakota/Lakota) Reservation in a peaceful attempt to halt construction of the Dakota Access oil pipeline, a 1200 mile long pipeline running from the Bakken oil fields in North Dakota to southern Illinois. The protesters tell us that the pipeline is desecrating land sacred to the Standing Rock Sioux and putting critical water supplies at risk of contamination. Over Labor Day weekend, security guards for the pipeline’s owners used attack dogs and pepper spray against protesters in a manner reminiscent of civil rights protests in the 1960s. On September 8, the governor of North Dakota called in the National Guard to provide backup to local law enforcement against the protesters. Mainstream media coverage of these events has been extremely sparse to date, and most news is being transmitted via social media. This situation lends clarity to a remarkable array of issues we need to be able to think about, including caring for our beautiful planet Earth and all of the people and other creatures who share it. The events in North Dakota are an extraordinary example both of capitalist institutions aligned against pro-human, pro-environmental interests, and the 21st century model of how genocide is aimed at Indigenous peoples. This is not a time to stay silent or passive to determine what we do. Come and join the movement instead! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 12:31:37 +0000 From: Karen Aram To: "peace-discuss at lists.net" , Peace Discuss Subject: [Peace-discuss] 9/11 and all that is yet to come..... Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" This article captures my opinion on 9/11 and all that has followed and all that is yet to come. No response required, no discussion desired, only food for thought: Fifteen years since the 9/11 attacks 12 September 2016 Yesterday marked the fifteenth anniversary of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 that killed more than 2,900 people in the United States. Nineteen supporters of Al Qaeda, 15 of them from Saudi Arabia, like the group’s founder Osama bin Laden, hijacked four airliners. They crashed two planes into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York, demolishing them; one into the Pentagon building in Washington; and plunged the other into a field in Pennsylvania to prevent passengers retaking control of the aircraft. The horrific mass murder of thousands of civilians was not only a criminal act. It was, from a political standpoint, reactionary. It served the interests of American and world imperialism. The ruling classes in the United States, Europe and, indeed, throughout the world, exploited the horror and confusion that followed the attack to legitimize perpetual war and ever-expanding attacks on democratic rights. The “war on terror,” proclaimed by the Bush administration in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, has been based, from the start, on misinformation and outright lies. The administration declared that the United States was engaged in a life-and-death struggle against Al Qaeda. Fifteen years later, it is a basic and undisputable fact that Al Qaeda is a key ally of the United States in the far-flung military operations being conducted by the CIA, above all in Syria. The “war on terror” was invoked to justify attacks on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Yemen—countries that had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. The death toll numbers in the millions. The devastation of the region is a principal factor in the greatest refugee crisis since World War II, with over 60 million displaced persons seeking sanctuary. A decade and a half after September 11, 2001, it is clear that the events of that day were no more the cause of the wars that followed than the assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo in June 1914 was the real cause of the outbreak of World War I. The US government has never attempted to explain how and why the “war on terror” has morphed into a conflict with the larger geostrategic rivals of the United States, particularly Russia and China, which threatens to unleash World War III. One of the most remarkable facts of the 9/11 attacks is that, despite their central role in the foreign and domestic policy of the United States for fifteen years, there has never been a serious and credible investigation of what actually took place. The US intelligence agencies had ample warning of the impending attacks, had kept many of the perpetrators under active surveillance, and had longstanding ties to Osama bin Laden and his network, which was formed out of the CIA-orchestrated guerrilla warfare in Afghanistan during the 1980s against the Soviet-backed regime then in power in Kabul. No government official has ever been held accountable for what is universally described as a catastrophic intelligence failure. After Pearl Harbor—to which 9/11 is frequently compared—admirals were fired. But not a single official of the vast US military-intelligence complex lost his job after an attack carried out by well-known terrorists, many of them under state surveillance, and two of them actually living in the home of an FBI informant. Within weeks of the attacks, US and allied military forces implemented long-held plans and invaded Afghanistan, on the pretext that the Islamist Taliban government was harboring bin Laden. The Afghan war has claimed tens of thousands of lives and driven millions from their homes in Afghanistan and north-west Pakistan. It continues to this day, more than five years after bin Laden’s assassination at the safe house where he resided, near a military college in the city of Abbottabad, Pakistan, a key US ally. Within the United States, the 9/11 attacks became the pretext for intensifying attacks on democratic rights, under conditions of ever-widening social inequality and mounting class antagonisms. The congressional passage of the “Authorization for the Use of Military Force”—which enshrined the illegal doctrine of “preventative war”—gave blanket authority to the White House to attack any state it assessed as a potential threat to the military or economic interests of the American ruling class. This was followed by the passage of the Patriot Act, which created the legal framework for a police state in America. In 2002, the Bush White House cited the “war on terror” as justification for CIA rendition and torture and the establishment of an extralegal prison at Guantanamo, Cuba, where prisoners could be held indefinitely, even for life, without any judicial proceeding. This was the corollary to a criminal policy of preventive war all over the world. The Obama administration, which followed Bush, cited the same rationale for its escalating campaign of drone missile attacks, which targeted thousands for assassination at the orders of the president. Under both administrations, the US intelligence apparatus has been massively built up, systematically spying on the American population, monitoring all telecommunications and the Internet worldwide. Meanwhile, the pattern of 9/11 has been repeated endlessly, in terrorist attacks from Paris to Brussels to London to Boston. In virtually every case of attacks by Al Qaeda or ISIS operatives or sympathizers, the perpetrators have been known to the security forces. They were free to carry out their bloody work for two reasons: their organizations were doing the bidding of imperialist foreign policy, particularly in Syria; and their atrocities confuse and stampede public opinion behind war, enabling the buildup of the forces of state repression, to be used against the working class. The real motivation behind the response to 9/11 was not retaliation for the terrorist attacks. It was the establishment of a direct US military footprint in the heart of Central Asia and US dominance over the Middle East, the key oil-producing region of the globe. The result over the past 15 years has been the vast destabilization of international relations and the emergence of open US war preparations against China—the state Washington perceives as its greatest rival in Asia—along with escalating tensions with Russia, which is viewed as a threat to American dominance in both Central Asia and Europe. As David North wrote in his Preface to the volume, A Quarter Century of War: The US Drive for Global Hegemony 1990–2016: “The last quarter century of US-instigated wars must be studied as a chain of interconnected events. The strategic logic of the US drive for global hegemony extends beyond the neocolonial operations in the Middle East and Africa. The ongoing regional wars are component elements of the rapidly escalating confrontation of the United States with Russia and China.” In Eastern Europe, NATO forces are mobilizing for military confrontation with Russia, whether in the Baltic States, Ukraine, the Black Sea or the Caucasus. The same type of media campaign used to demonize Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi and Assad, in preparation for their US-backed overthrow, is now being directed at Russian President Vladimir Putin. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is leading the charge, accusing Putin of cyber-sabotage of the US elections and attacking Republican Donald Trump as a Putin stooge. In Asia, the Obama administration launched the US “pivot” to the region in 2011, redeploying the majority of US naval and air forces to battle stations where they can strike at China. The US Navy is conducting provocative “freedom of navigation” exercises against Chinese-held islets in the South China Sea, while Washington is encouraging Japanese militarism and threatening North Korea. Whatever government comes to power in the United States as a result of the November 8 election, whether headed by Clinton or Trump, will continue and escalate the program of militarism, attacks on democratic rights, and economic austerity directed against the working class. The same agenda is being pursued by all the imperialist powers. That is all that the capitalist system, dominated by global economic and political crisis, has to offer. The only alternative is the international mobilization of the working class, on the basis of a socialist and antiwar program, under the leadership of the International Committee of the Fourth International. 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Name: image006.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 344 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 14:51:15 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 89 In-Reply-To: <008b01d20d04$2f996ce0$8ecc46a0$@comcast.net> References: <19437610.2816554.1473688254667@mail.yahoo.com> <008b01d20d04$2f996ce0$8ecc46a0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1258922889.2765431.1473691876159@mail.yahoo.com> You clearly don't understand my argument...The terms nationalism, fascism, socialism are so twisted and tangled depending on one's point of view that trying to attach any stable definition is impossible anymore.That is why I clearly stated my revulsion to neoNazism....So does the American Freedom Party and Prof. Kevin McDonaldYou immediately just leap on the canard and attack without understanding my argument.Study Cultural Marxism...which in itself is a minefield on the internet... in the confusion...but its possible see my video. On Monday, September 12, 2016 10:44 AM, David Johnson wrote: #yiv1928978013 #yiv1928978013 -- _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Verdana;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv1928978013 #yiv1928978013 p.yiv1928978013MsoNormal, #yiv1928978013 li.yiv1928978013MsoNormal, #yiv1928978013 div.yiv1928978013MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1928978013 h2 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:18.0pt;}#yiv1928978013 a:link, #yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1928978013 a:visited, #yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1928978013 p.yiv1928978013MsoAcetate, #yiv1928978013 li.yiv1928978013MsoAcetate, #yiv1928978013 div.yiv1928978013MsoAcetate {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;}#yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013Heading2Char {color:#4F81BD;font-weight:bold;}#yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013EmailStyle18 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013BalloonTextChar {}#yiv1928978013 .yiv1928978013MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv1928978013 div.yiv1928978013WordSection1 {}#yiv1928978013 Stephen,  You have this unbelievable ability of shooting yourself ( your credibility ) in the foot every time some of begin to think that you may be a little confused in your analysis and somewhat misunderstood, and that you may have some redeeming qualities.  This posting blows away any and all shreds of credibility or decency that some may have thought you had.  NEWS FLASH – “ White Nationalism “ IS FASCISM  which differs from Nazism only in minor detail if it differs at all. And by it’s very nature IS RACIST ! David Johnson      From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:51 AM To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net; Stephen Francis Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 89  Response to WSWS articleSocialism actually could be the best form of government, but not if it is run or influenced by Zionism.There is an insidious and complex plot by Zionists to destroy traditional white culture to further their world revolution goals going back to the Jewish Bolshevik political revolution, that has now been replaced by a cultural revolution...named: Cultural Marxism (CM). The response to this attack finds its home in White Nationalism, that utterly rejects NeoNazismZionists and all major Jewish organizations promote immigration, political correctness, diversity, multiculturalism...it is part of their tactic (Cultural Marxism) to gain more power and promote their revolution.  It's a very difficult concept to grasp, but once you see the evidence you'll never go back. The immigration crisis in Europe is a direct result of Zionists/Israeli organizations along with George Soros, Clinton, Obama in the creation of ISIS and the fraudulent Syrian/Libyan wars.See my conference session Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference 2: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 and Cultural Marxism"Prof. Kevin McDonald, one of the speakers in our Academic Freedom Conference is actually one of the founders and a principles in the political movement that exposes the Zionist element of Cultural Marxism. He is fully aware of all the ramifications of the NeoNazi accusations and responds with scientific, rational and coherent counter arguments.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald  Prof Kevin McDonald is also one of eight directors of the American Freedom Party and is the main source of academic thought on what I've mentioned above.American Freedom Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  Zionists murdered nearly 3000 people on 9/11 as a component of their Cultural Marxism plan.   | |   | | | | | | American Freedom Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | | | |           | | | | | | | | | | | Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference 2: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 an... Stephen Francis proposed the first Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference, which was held on the campus of the University... | | | |    Kevin MacDonald on Cultural Marxism 1/5   | | | | | | | | | | | Kevin MacDonald on Cultural Marxism 1/5 Professor of Psychology at California Long Beach and author of the book "Culture of Critique", Profess... | | | |      On Monday, September 12, 2016 8:32 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote:  Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Events this week - two re #NoDAPL opposing Dakota Access oil       pipeline (#NoDAPL) (Stuart Levy)   2. 9/11 and all that is yet to come..... (Karen Aram) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 23:54:22 -0500 From: Stuart Levy To: Peace Cc: Peace Discuss , occupycu     Subject: [Peace-discuss] Events this week - two re #NoDAPL opposing     Dakota Access oil pipeline (#NoDAPL) Message-ID: <7578850b-1754-0de3-38b3-b1fb28abb045 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Upcoming events - including **two** related to the Dakota Access Oil Pipeline, on Mon 9/12 (6:30 Urbana), and on Fri 9/16 (5pm Champaign). The Friday 5pm Scott Park (Champaign) event is Native-led and organized, in solidarity with the Standing Rock water protectors in North Dakota, where thousands of Native people are assembled in peaceful opposition to the Dakota Access Pipeline.  Hope you can attend, and please let others know. Hope too: at 6:30pm Wednesday 9/14, please come watch Naomi Klein's film "This Changes Everything", on climate change and citizen action.  Discussion to follow, including brief popup talks by several groups you can get involved with. Though not strictly anti-war events, they lie at the intersection of anticolonialism, the global geopolitics of energy, and the importance of popular resistance. Summary: Mon 9/12, 6:30pm, Urbana City Council Chambers, 400 S. Vine St, Urbana     Urge Urbana City Council to *oppose **Dakota Access Pipeline (#NoDAPL)*     Gather at City building at 6:30; Council meeting begins at 7.  Organized by Robert Naiman.   https://actionnetwork.org/events/nodapl-action-at-urbana-city-council-meeting?referrer=sierra-club Wed 9/14, 6:30pm-9pm, Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana     "This Changes Everything" film & discussion, with popup talks by *groups you can get involved with*     Film by Naomi Klein, on climate change and citizen action     https://www.facebook.com/events/329641967375716/ Fri 9/16, noon-1pm, University YMCA (Friday Forum), 1001 S. Wright St., Champaign     "Politics of Climate Change in Illinois", talk by Jen Walling, IL Environmental Council     https://www.facebook.com/events/1047884435309318/ Fri 9/16, 5-7pm, Scott Park, Champaign (between 2nd & 3rd Sts, between Springfield and Healey)     "In Solidarity with Standing Rock, the Earth, and all People, we will gather as Protectors in Peace at Scott Park in Champaign, IL"     Vigil/rally solidarity with the Standing Rock water protectors, peacefully opposing the Dakota Access Pipeline.     Organized by local Native people.  Everyone is welcome.     https://www.facebook.com/events/1787572761459012/   ================================================== ================================================== More details on the above --> Mon 9/12, 6:30pm, Urbana City Council Chambers, 400 S. Vine St, Urbana     #NoDAPL -- Come urge the Urbana City Council to adopt a resolution saying that they oppose the Dakota Access Oil Pipeline, and calling on the Obama Administration to ask the Corps of Engineers to revoke its construction permit.  This pipeline, running through the Dakotas, Iowa and into Illinois, would carry over a half million barrels per day of North Dakota Bakken crude oil - running through Native American lands, and putting major waterways at risk.    More below, or sign up to say you're coming:   https://actionnetwork.org/events/nodapl-action-at-urbana-city-council-meeting?referrer=sierra-club Wed 9/14, 6:30pm-9pm, Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana     Free and open to the public - Refreshments will be served.      Followed by discussion & avenues for action.     https://www.facebook.com/events/329641967375716/     Inspired by Naomi Klein’s book, "This Changes Everything: Capitalism     vs. the Climate," this film presents seven powerful portraits of     communities on the front lines of the climate crisis, and Klein     contends that "we can seize the existential crisis of climate change     to transform our failed economic system into something radically     better."     Please join us to call attention to the most important environmental     issue of our time.     A short trailer and more information about the film is here:     http://thefilm.thischangeseverything.org/about         Thanks to our cosponsors! Channing-Murray Foundation, Students for     Environmental Concerns (SECS), Eco-Justice Collaborative, Faith In     Place, Social Action Committee/Green UUs of the     Unitarian-Universalist Church of Urbana-Champaign, IL Environmental     Council, WATCH (We’re Against Toxic Chemicals), Just Foreign Policy,     AWARE, C-U Friends Meeting, University YMCA, Wesley Methodist Church     Green Team, Central IL Chapter of Jobs with Justice, Prairie Rivers     Network, Champaign County Health Care Consumers. Fri 9/16, 5-7pm, Scott Park, Champaign (between 2nd & 3rd Sts, between Springfield and Healey)       https://www.facebook.com/events/1787572761459012/     In Solidarity with Standing Rock, the Earth, and all People, we will     gather as Protectors in Peace at Scott Park in Champaign, IL on     Friday, September 16th from 5:00pm-7:00pm.     This event is Native-organized. We ask our entire community to join     us, but honor our request for this to be a Native-led and     Indigenous-centered space. To that end, we’ll begin with a schedule     of Indigenous speakers, followed by an open mic for all those     joining us in solidarity. Community, please join us. In our     tradition, all our children are our children. Everyone belongs here.     OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS HAPPENING and OUR CALL TO ACTION:     Thousands of Native Americans from over 100 tribes are campedon the     banks of the Cannonball River in North Dakota near the Standing Rock     Sioux (Dakota/Lakota) Reservation in a peaceful attempt to halt     construction of the Dakota Access oil pipeline, a 1200 mile long     pipeline running from the Bakken oil fields in North Dakota to     southern Illinois. The protesters tell us that the pipeline is     desecrating land sacred to the Standing Rock Sioux and putting     critical water supplies at risk of contamination. Over Labor Day     weekend, security guards for the pipeline’s owners used attack dogs     and pepper spray against protesters in a manner reminiscent of civil     rights protests in the 1960s. On September 8, the governor of North     Dakota called in the National Guard to provide backup to local law     enforcement against the protesters. Mainstream media coverage of     these events has been extremely sparse to date, and most news is     being transmitted via social media.     This situation lends clarity to a remarkable array of issues we need     to be able to think about, including caring for our beautiful planet     Earth and all of the people and other creatures who share it. The     events in North Dakota are an extraordinary example both of     capitalist institutions aligned against pro-human, pro-environmental     interests, and the 21st century model of how genocide is aimed at     Indigenous peoples. This is not a time to stay silent or passive to     determine what we do. Come and join the movement instead! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 12:31:37 +0000 From: Karen Aram To: "peace-discuss at lists.net" , Peace Discuss     Subject: [Peace-discuss] 9/11 and all that is yet to come..... Message-ID:         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" This article captures my opinion on 9/11 and all that has followed and all that is yet to come. No response required, no discussion desired, only food for thought: Fifteen years since the 9/11 attacks 12 September 2016 Yesterday marked the fifteenth anniversary of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 that killed more than 2,900 people in the United States. Nineteen supporters of Al Qaeda, 15 of them from Saudi Arabia, like the group’s founder Osama bin Laden, hijacked four airliners. They crashed two planes into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York, demolishing them; one into the Pentagon building in Washington; and plunged the other into a field in Pennsylvania to prevent passengers retaking control of the aircraft. The horrific mass murder of thousands of civilians was not only a criminal act. It was, from a political standpoint, reactionary. It served the interests of American and world imperialism. The ruling classes in the United States, Europe and, indeed, throughout the world, exploited the horror and confusion that followed the attack to legitimize perpetual war and ever-expanding attacks on democratic rights. The “war on terror,” proclaimed by the Bush administration in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, has been based, from the start, on misinformation and outright lies. The administration declared that the United States was engaged in a life-and-death struggle against Al Qaeda. Fifteen years later, it is a basic and undisputable fact that Al Qaeda is a key ally of the United States in the far-flung military operations being conducted by the CIA, above all in Syria. The “war on terror” was invoked to justify attacks on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Yemen—countries that had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. The death toll numbers in the millions. The devastation of the region is a principal factor in the greatest refugee crisis since World War II, with over 60 million displaced persons seeking sanctuary. A decade and a half after September 11, 2001, it is clear that the events of that day were no more the cause of the wars that followed than the assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo in June 1914 was the real cause of the outbreak of World War I. The US government has never attempted to explain how and why the “war on terror” has morphed into a conflict with the larger geostrategic rivals of the United States, particularly Russia and China, which threatens to unleash World War III. One of the most remarkable facts of the 9/11 attacks is that, despite their central role in the foreign and domestic policy of the United States for fifteen years, there has never been a serious and credible investigation of what actually took place. The US intelligence agencies had ample warning of the impending attacks, had kept many of the perpetrators under active surveillance, and had longstanding ties to Osama bin Laden and his network, which was formed out of the CIA-orchestrated guerrilla warfare in Afghanistan during the 1980s against the Soviet-backed regime then in power in Kabul. No government official has ever been held accountable for what is universally described as a catastrophic intelligence failure. After Pearl Harbor—to which 9/11 is frequently compared—admirals were fired. But not a single official of the vast US military-intelligence complex lost his job after an attack carried out by well-known terrorists, many of them under state surveillance, and two of them actually living in the home of an FBI informant. Within weeks of the attacks, US and allied military forces implemented long-held plans and invaded Afghanistan, on the pretext that the Islamist Taliban government was harboring bin Laden. The Afghan war has claimed tens of thousands of lives and driven millions from their homes in Afghanistan and north-west Pakistan. It continues to this day, more than five years after bin Laden’s assassination at the safe house where he resided, near a military college in the city of Abbottabad, Pakistan, a key US ally. Within the United States, the 9/11 attacks became the pretext for intensifying attacks on democratic rights, under conditions of ever-widening social inequality and mounting class antagonisms. The congressional passage of the “Authorization for the Use of Military Force”—which enshrined the illegal doctrine of “preventative war”—gave blanket authority to the White House to attack any state it assessed as a potential threat to the military or economic interests of the American ruling class. This was followed by the passage of the Patriot Act, which created the legal framework for a police state in America. In 2002, the Bush White House cited the “war on terror” as justification for CIA rendition and torture and the establishment of an extralegal prison at Guantanamo, Cuba, where prisoners could be held indefinitely, even for life, without any judicial proceeding. This was the corollary to a criminal policy of preventive war all over the world. The Obama administration, which followed Bush, cited the same rationale for its escalating campaign of drone missile attacks, which targeted thousands for assassination at the orders of the president. Under both administrations, the US intelligence apparatus has been massively built up, systematically spying on the American population, monitoring all telecommunications and the Internet worldwide. Meanwhile, the pattern of 9/11 has been repeated endlessly, in terrorist attacks from Paris to Brussels to London to Boston. In virtually every case of attacks by Al Qaeda or ISIS operatives or sympathizers, the perpetrators have been known to the security forces. They were free to carry out their bloody work for two reasons: their organizations were doing the bidding of imperialist foreign policy, particularly in Syria; and their atrocities confuse and stampede public opinion behind war, enabling the buildup of the forces of state repression, to be used against the working class. The real motivation behind the response to 9/11 was not retaliation for the terrorist attacks. It was the establishment of a direct US military footprint in the heart of Central Asia and US dominance over the Middle East, the key oil-producing region of the globe. The result over the past 15 years has been the vast destabilization of international relations and the emergence of open US war preparations against China—the state Washington perceives as its greatest rival in Asia—along with escalating tensions with Russia, which is viewed as a threat to American dominance in both Central Asia and Europe. As David North wrote in his Preface to the volume, A Quarter Century of War: The US Drive for Global Hegemony 1990–2016: “The last quarter century of US-instigated wars must be studied as a chain of interconnected events. The strategic logic of the US drive for global hegemony extends beyond the neocolonial operations in the Middle East and Africa. The ongoing regional wars are component elements of the rapidly escalating confrontation of the United States with Russia and China.” In Eastern Europe, NATO forces are mobilizing for military confrontation with Russia, whether in the Baltic States, Ukraine, the Black Sea or the Caucasus. The same type of media campaign used to demonize Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi and Assad, in preparation for their US-backed overthrow, is now being directed at Russian President Vladimir Putin. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is leading the charge, accusing Putin of cyber-sabotage of the US elections and attacking Republican Donald Trump as a Putin stooge. In Asia, the Obama administration launched the US “pivot” to the region in 2011, redeploying the majority of US naval and air forces to battle stations where they can strike at China. The US Navy is conducting provocative “freedom of navigation” exercises against Chinese-held islets in the South China Sea, while Washington is encouraging Japanese militarism and threatening North Korea. Whatever government comes to power in the United States as a result of the November 8 election, whether headed by Clinton or Trump, will continue and escalate the program of militarism, attacks on democratic rights, and economic austerity directed against the working class. The same agenda is being pursued by all the imperialist powers. That is all that the capitalist system, dominated by global economic and political crisis, has to offer. The only alternative is the international mobilization of the working class, on the basis of a socialist and antiwar program, under the leadership of the International Committee of the Fourth International. 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 344 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 15:06:07 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 89 In-Reply-To: <008b01d20d04$2f996ce0$8ecc46a0$@comcast.net> References: <19437610.2816554.1473688254667@mail.yahoo.com> <008b01d20d04$2f996ce0$8ecc46a0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <95779001.2725896.1473692767687@mail.yahoo.com> My reaction to 'White Nationalism' was exactly the same as yours when I first encountered it. But when you really study Cultural Marxism...which I think it's possible you've never heard of it....which I didn't until just recently... you will see what I'm talking about.It is a definite goal of the MSM (Zionist controlled) to keep this term out of the main stream conversation.see my video  Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference 2: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 and Cultural Marxism"It's purposefully obscured because it was invented by Jewish Marxists in the 1920s in Frankfurt Germany at the Institute of Social Research.... Hitler kicked them out of Germany...they settled in at Columbia University...and University of Chicago...and permeated the US academic environment (UIUC) and the US media.The internet is a truth machine....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zjY7b5e8sw On Monday, September 12, 2016 10:44 AM, David Johnson wrote: #yiv1928978013 #yiv1928978013 -- _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Verdana;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv1928978013 #yiv1928978013 p.yiv1928978013MsoNormal, #yiv1928978013 li.yiv1928978013MsoNormal, #yiv1928978013 div.yiv1928978013MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1928978013 h2 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:18.0pt;}#yiv1928978013 a:link, #yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1928978013 a:visited, #yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1928978013 p.yiv1928978013MsoAcetate, #yiv1928978013 li.yiv1928978013MsoAcetate, #yiv1928978013 div.yiv1928978013MsoAcetate {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;}#yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013Heading2Char {color:#4F81BD;font-weight:bold;}#yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013EmailStyle18 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013BalloonTextChar {}#yiv1928978013 .yiv1928978013MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv1928978013 div.yiv1928978013WordSection1 {}#yiv1928978013 Stephen,  You have this unbelievable ability of shooting yourself ( your credibility ) in the foot every time some of begin to think that you may be a little confused in your analysis and somewhat misunderstood, and that you may have some redeeming qualities.  This posting blows away any and all shreds of credibility or decency that some may have thought you had.  NEWS FLASH – “ White Nationalism “ IS FASCISM  which differs from Nazism only in minor detail if it differs at all. And by it’s very nature IS RACIST ! David Johnson      From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:51 AM To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net; Stephen Francis Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 89  Response to WSWS articleSocialism actually could be the best form of government, but not if it is run or influenced by Zionism.There is an insidious and complex plot by Zionists to destroy traditional white culture to further their world revolution goals going back to the Jewish Bolshevik political revolution, that has now been replaced by a cultural revolution...named: Cultural Marxism (CM). The response to this attack finds its home in White Nationalism, that utterly rejects NeoNazismZionists and all major Jewish organizations promote immigration, political correctness, diversity, multiculturalism...it is part of their tactic (Cultural Marxism) to gain more power and promote their revolution.  It's a very difficult concept to grasp, but once you see the evidence you'll never go back. The immigration crisis in Europe is a direct result of Zionists/Israeli organizations along with George Soros, Clinton, Obama in the creation of ISIS and the fraudulent Syrian/Libyan wars.See my conference session Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference 2: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 and Cultural Marxism"Prof. Kevin McDonald, one of the speakers in our Academic Freedom Conference is actually one of the founders and a principles in the political movement that exposes the Zionist element of Cultural Marxism. He is fully aware of all the ramifications of the NeoNazi accusations and responds with scientific, rational and coherent counter arguments.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald  Prof Kevin McDonald is also one of eight directors of the American Freedom Party and is the main source of academic thought on what I've mentioned above.American Freedom Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  Zionists murdered nearly 3000 people on 9/11 as a component of their Cultural Marxism plan.   | |   | | | | | | American Freedom Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | | | |           | | | | | | | | | | | Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference 2: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 an... Stephen Francis proposed the first Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference, which was held on the campus of the University... | | | |    Kevin MacDonald on Cultural Marxism 1/5   | | | | | | | | | | | Kevin MacDonald on Cultural Marxism 1/5 Professor of Psychology at California Long Beach and author of the book "Culture of Critique", Profess... | | | |      On Monday, September 12, 2016 8:32 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote:  Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Events this week - two re #NoDAPL opposing Dakota Access oil       pipeline (#NoDAPL) (Stuart Levy)   2. 9/11 and all that is yet to come..... (Karen Aram) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 23:54:22 -0500 From: Stuart Levy To: Peace Cc: Peace Discuss , occupycu     Subject: [Peace-discuss] Events this week - two re #NoDAPL opposing     Dakota Access oil pipeline (#NoDAPL) Message-ID: <7578850b-1754-0de3-38b3-b1fb28abb045 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Upcoming events - including **two** related to the Dakota Access Oil Pipeline, on Mon 9/12 (6:30 Urbana), and on Fri 9/16 (5pm Champaign). The Friday 5pm Scott Park (Champaign) event is Native-led and organized, in solidarity with the Standing Rock water protectors in North Dakota, where thousands of Native people are assembled in peaceful opposition to the Dakota Access Pipeline.  Hope you can attend, and please let others know. Hope too: at 6:30pm Wednesday 9/14, please come watch Naomi Klein's film "This Changes Everything", on climate change and citizen action.  Discussion to follow, including brief popup talks by several groups you can get involved with. Though not strictly anti-war events, they lie at the intersection of anticolonialism, the global geopolitics of energy, and the importance of popular resistance. Summary: Mon 9/12, 6:30pm, Urbana City Council Chambers, 400 S. Vine St, Urbana     Urge Urbana City Council to *oppose **Dakota Access Pipeline (#NoDAPL)*     Gather at City building at 6:30; Council meeting begins at 7.  Organized by Robert Naiman.   https://actionnetwork.org/events/nodapl-action-at-urbana-city-council-meeting?referrer=sierra-club Wed 9/14, 6:30pm-9pm, Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana     "This Changes Everything" film & discussion, with popup talks by *groups you can get involved with*     Film by Naomi Klein, on climate change and citizen action     https://www.facebook.com/events/329641967375716/ Fri 9/16, noon-1pm, University YMCA (Friday Forum), 1001 S. Wright St., Champaign     "Politics of Climate Change in Illinois", talk by Jen Walling, IL Environmental Council     https://www.facebook.com/events/1047884435309318/ Fri 9/16, 5-7pm, Scott Park, Champaign (between 2nd & 3rd Sts, between Springfield and Healey)     "In Solidarity with Standing Rock, the Earth, and all People, we will gather as Protectors in Peace at Scott Park in Champaign, IL"     Vigil/rally solidarity with the Standing Rock water protectors, peacefully opposing the Dakota Access Pipeline.     Organized by local Native people.  Everyone is welcome.     https://www.facebook.com/events/1787572761459012/   ================================================== ================================================== More details on the above --> Mon 9/12, 6:30pm, Urbana City Council Chambers, 400 S. Vine St, Urbana     #NoDAPL -- Come urge the Urbana City Council to adopt a resolution saying that they oppose the Dakota Access Oil Pipeline, and calling on the Obama Administration to ask the Corps of Engineers to revoke its construction permit.  This pipeline, running through the Dakotas, Iowa and into Illinois, would carry over a half million barrels per day of North Dakota Bakken crude oil - running through Native American lands, and putting major waterways at risk.    More below, or sign up to say you're coming:   https://actionnetwork.org/events/nodapl-action-at-urbana-city-council-meeting?referrer=sierra-club Wed 9/14, 6:30pm-9pm, Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana     Free and open to the public - Refreshments will be served.      Followed by discussion & avenues for action.     https://www.facebook.com/events/329641967375716/     Inspired by Naomi Klein’s book, "This Changes Everything: Capitalism     vs. the Climate," this film presents seven powerful portraits of     communities on the front lines of the climate crisis, and Klein     contends that "we can seize the existential crisis of climate change     to transform our failed economic system into something radically     better."     Please join us to call attention to the most important environmental     issue of our time.     A short trailer and more information about the film is here:     http://thefilm.thischangeseverything.org/about         Thanks to our cosponsors! Channing-Murray Foundation, Students for     Environmental Concerns (SECS), Eco-Justice Collaborative, Faith In     Place, Social Action Committee/Green UUs of the     Unitarian-Universalist Church of Urbana-Champaign, IL Environmental     Council, WATCH (We’re Against Toxic Chemicals), Just Foreign Policy,     AWARE, C-U Friends Meeting, University YMCA, Wesley Methodist Church     Green Team, Central IL Chapter of Jobs with Justice, Prairie Rivers     Network, Champaign County Health Care Consumers. Fri 9/16, 5-7pm, Scott Park, Champaign (between 2nd & 3rd Sts, between Springfield and Healey)       https://www.facebook.com/events/1787572761459012/     In Solidarity with Standing Rock, the Earth, and all People, we will     gather as Protectors in Peace at Scott Park in Champaign, IL on     Friday, September 16th from 5:00pm-7:00pm.     This event is Native-organized. We ask our entire community to join     us, but honor our request for this to be a Native-led and     Indigenous-centered space. To that end, we’ll begin with a schedule     of Indigenous speakers, followed by an open mic for all those     joining us in solidarity. Community, please join us. In our     tradition, all our children are our children. Everyone belongs here.     OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS HAPPENING and OUR CALL TO ACTION:     Thousands of Native Americans from over 100 tribes are campedon the     banks of the Cannonball River in North Dakota near the Standing Rock     Sioux (Dakota/Lakota) Reservation in a peaceful attempt to halt     construction of the Dakota Access oil pipeline, a 1200 mile long     pipeline running from the Bakken oil fields in North Dakota to     southern Illinois. The protesters tell us that the pipeline is     desecrating land sacred to the Standing Rock Sioux and putting     critical water supplies at risk of contamination. Over Labor Day     weekend, security guards for the pipeline’s owners used attack dogs     and pepper spray against protesters in a manner reminiscent of civil     rights protests in the 1960s. On September 8, the governor of North     Dakota called in the National Guard to provide backup to local law     enforcement against the protesters. Mainstream media coverage of     these events has been extremely sparse to date, and most news is     being transmitted via social media.     This situation lends clarity to a remarkable array of issues we need     to be able to think about, including caring for our beautiful planet     Earth and all of the people and other creatures who share it. The     events in North Dakota are an extraordinary example both of     capitalist institutions aligned against pro-human, pro-environmental     interests, and the 21st century model of how genocide is aimed at     Indigenous peoples. This is not a time to stay silent or passive to     determine what we do. Come and join the movement instead! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 12:31:37 +0000 From: Karen Aram To: "peace-discuss at lists.net" , Peace Discuss     Subject: [Peace-discuss] 9/11 and all that is yet to come..... Message-ID:         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" This article captures my opinion on 9/11 and all that has followed and all that is yet to come. No response required, no discussion desired, only food for thought: Fifteen years since the 9/11 attacks 12 September 2016 Yesterday marked the fifteenth anniversary of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 that killed more than 2,900 people in the United States. Nineteen supporters of Al Qaeda, 15 of them from Saudi Arabia, like the group’s founder Osama bin Laden, hijacked four airliners. They crashed two planes into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York, demolishing them; one into the Pentagon building in Washington; and plunged the other into a field in Pennsylvania to prevent passengers retaking control of the aircraft. The horrific mass murder of thousands of civilians was not only a criminal act. It was, from a political standpoint, reactionary. It served the interests of American and world imperialism. The ruling classes in the United States, Europe and, indeed, throughout the world, exploited the horror and confusion that followed the attack to legitimize perpetual war and ever-expanding attacks on democratic rights. The “war on terror,” proclaimed by the Bush administration in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, has been based, from the start, on misinformation and outright lies. The administration declared that the United States was engaged in a life-and-death struggle against Al Qaeda. Fifteen years later, it is a basic and undisputable fact that Al Qaeda is a key ally of the United States in the far-flung military operations being conducted by the CIA, above all in Syria. The “war on terror” was invoked to justify attacks on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Yemen—countries that had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. The death toll numbers in the millions. The devastation of the region is a principal factor in the greatest refugee crisis since World War II, with over 60 million displaced persons seeking sanctuary. A decade and a half after September 11, 2001, it is clear that the events of that day were no more the cause of the wars that followed than the assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo in June 1914 was the real cause of the outbreak of World War I. The US government has never attempted to explain how and why the “war on terror” has morphed into a conflict with the larger geostrategic rivals of the United States, particularly Russia and China, which threatens to unleash World War III. One of the most remarkable facts of the 9/11 attacks is that, despite their central role in the foreign and domestic policy of the United States for fifteen years, there has never been a serious and credible investigation of what actually took place. The US intelligence agencies had ample warning of the impending attacks, had kept many of the perpetrators under active surveillance, and had longstanding ties to Osama bin Laden and his network, which was formed out of the CIA-orchestrated guerrilla warfare in Afghanistan during the 1980s against the Soviet-backed regime then in power in Kabul. No government official has ever been held accountable for what is universally described as a catastrophic intelligence failure. After Pearl Harbor—to which 9/11 is frequently compared—admirals were fired. But not a single official of the vast US military-intelligence complex lost his job after an attack carried out by well-known terrorists, many of them under state surveillance, and two of them actually living in the home of an FBI informant. Within weeks of the attacks, US and allied military forces implemented long-held plans and invaded Afghanistan, on the pretext that the Islamist Taliban government was harboring bin Laden. The Afghan war has claimed tens of thousands of lives and driven millions from their homes in Afghanistan and north-west Pakistan. It continues to this day, more than five years after bin Laden’s assassination at the safe house where he resided, near a military college in the city of Abbottabad, Pakistan, a key US ally. Within the United States, the 9/11 attacks became the pretext for intensifying attacks on democratic rights, under conditions of ever-widening social inequality and mounting class antagonisms. The congressional passage of the “Authorization for the Use of Military Force”—which enshrined the illegal doctrine of “preventative war”—gave blanket authority to the White House to attack any state it assessed as a potential threat to the military or economic interests of the American ruling class. This was followed by the passage of the Patriot Act, which created the legal framework for a police state in America. In 2002, the Bush White House cited the “war on terror” as justification for CIA rendition and torture and the establishment of an extralegal prison at Guantanamo, Cuba, where prisoners could be held indefinitely, even for life, without any judicial proceeding. This was the corollary to a criminal policy of preventive war all over the world. The Obama administration, which followed Bush, cited the same rationale for its escalating campaign of drone missile attacks, which targeted thousands for assassination at the orders of the president. Under both administrations, the US intelligence apparatus has been massively built up, systematically spying on the American population, monitoring all telecommunications and the Internet worldwide. Meanwhile, the pattern of 9/11 has been repeated endlessly, in terrorist attacks from Paris to Brussels to London to Boston. In virtually every case of attacks by Al Qaeda or ISIS operatives or sympathizers, the perpetrators have been known to the security forces. They were free to carry out their bloody work for two reasons: their organizations were doing the bidding of imperialist foreign policy, particularly in Syria; and their atrocities confuse and stampede public opinion behind war, enabling the buildup of the forces of state repression, to be used against the working class. The real motivation behind the response to 9/11 was not retaliation for the terrorist attacks. It was the establishment of a direct US military footprint in the heart of Central Asia and US dominance over the Middle East, the key oil-producing region of the globe. The result over the past 15 years has been the vast destabilization of international relations and the emergence of open US war preparations against China—the state Washington perceives as its greatest rival in Asia—along with escalating tensions with Russia, which is viewed as a threat to American dominance in both Central Asia and Europe. As David North wrote in his Preface to the volume, A Quarter Century of War: The US Drive for Global Hegemony 1990–2016: “The last quarter century of US-instigated wars must be studied as a chain of interconnected events. The strategic logic of the US drive for global hegemony extends beyond the neocolonial operations in the Middle East and Africa. The ongoing regional wars are component elements of the rapidly escalating confrontation of the United States with Russia and China.” In Eastern Europe, NATO forces are mobilizing for military confrontation with Russia, whether in the Baltic States, Ukraine, the Black Sea or the Caucasus. The same type of media campaign used to demonize Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi and Assad, in preparation for their US-backed overthrow, is now being directed at Russian President Vladimir Putin. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is leading the charge, accusing Putin of cyber-sabotage of the US elections and attacking Republican Donald Trump as a Putin stooge. In Asia, the Obama administration launched the US “pivot” to the region in 2011, redeploying the majority of US naval and air forces to battle stations where they can strike at China. The US Navy is conducting provocative “freedom of navigation” exercises against Chinese-held islets in the South China Sea, while Washington is encouraging Japanese militarism and threatening North Korea. Whatever government comes to power in the United States as a result of the November 8 election, whether headed by Clinton or Trump, will continue and escalate the program of militarism, attacks on democratic rights, and economic austerity directed against the working class. The same agenda is being pursued by all the imperialist powers. That is all that the capitalist system, dominated by global economic and political crisis, has to offer. The only alternative is the international mobilization of the working class, on the basis of a socialist and antiwar program, under the leadership of the International Committee of the Fourth International. 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 344 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 15:10:22 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 93 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <222012727.2741062.1473693022075@mail.yahoo.com> My reaction to 'White Nationalism' was exactly the same as yours when I first encountered it. But when you really study Cultural Marxism...which I think it's possible you've never heard of it....which I didn't until just recently... you will see what I'm talking about.It is a definite goal of the MSM (Zionist controlled) to keep this term out of the main stream conversation.see my video  Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference 2: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 and Cultural Marxism"It's purposefully obscured because it was invented by Jewish Marxists in the 1920s in Frankfurt Germany at the Institute of Social Research.... Hitler kicked them out of Germany...they settled in at Columbia University...and University of Chicago...and permeated the US academic environment (UIUC) and the US media.The internet is a truth machine....Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference 2: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 and Cultural Marxism" I could be seriously targeted for harm by the local Jewish community for revealing this information.... | | | | | | | | | | | Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference 2: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 an... Stephen Francis proposed the first Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference, which was held on the campus of the University... | | | | On Monday, September 12, 2016 10:55 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 89 (Stephen Francis) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:51:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Stephen Francis To: David Johnson ,     "peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net" Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 89 Message-ID: <1258922889.2765431.1473691876159 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" You clearly don't understand my argument...The terms nationalism, fascism, socialism are so twisted and tangled depending on one's point of view that trying to attach any stable definition is impossible anymore.That is why I clearly stated my revulsion to neoNazism....So does the American Freedom Party and Prof. Kevin McDonaldYou immediately just leap on the canard and attack without understanding my argument.Study Cultural Marxism...which in itself is a minefield on the internet... in the confusion...but its possible see my video.     On Monday, September 12, 2016 10:44 AM, David Johnson wrote: #yiv1928978013 #yiv1928978013 -- _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {font-family:Verdana;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv1928978013 #yiv1928978013 p.yiv1928978013MsoNormal, #yiv1928978013 li.yiv1928978013MsoNormal, #yiv1928978013 div.yiv1928978013MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1928978013 h2 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:18.0pt;}#yiv1928978013 a:link, #yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1928978013 a:visited, #yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1928978013 p.yiv1928978013MsoAcetate, #yiv1928978013 li.yiv1928978013MsoAcetate, #yiv1928978013 div.yiv1928978013MsoAcetate {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;}#yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013Heading2Char {color:#4F81BD;font-weight:bold;}#yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013EmailStyle18 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv1928978013 span.yiv1928978013BalloonTextChar {}#yiv1928978013 .yiv1928978013MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv1928978013 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv1928978013 div.yiv1928978013WordSection1 {}#yiv1928978013 Stephen,  You have this unbelievable ability of shooting yourself ( your credibility ) in the foot every time some of begin to think that you may be a little confused in your analysis and somewhat misunderstood, and that you may have some redeeming qualities.  This posting blows away any and all shreds of credibility or decency that some may have thought you had.  NEWS FLASH – “ White Nationalism “ IS FASCISM  which differs from Nazism only in minor detail if it differs at all. And by it’s very nature IS RACIST ! David Johnson      From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:51 AM To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net; Stephen Francis Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 89  Response to WSWS articleSocialism actually could be the best form of government, but not if it is run or influenced by Zionism.There is an insidious and complex plot by Zionists to destroy traditional white culture to further their world revolution goals going back to the Jewish Bolshevik political revolution, that has now been replaced by a cultural revolution...named: Cultural Marxism (CM). The response to this attack finds its home in White Nationalism, that utterly rejects NeoNazismZionists and all major Jewish organizations promote immigration, political correctness, diversity, multiculturalism...it is part of their tactic (Cultural Marxism) to gain more power and promote their revolution.  It's a very difficult concept to grasp, but once you see the evidence you'll never go back. The immigration crisis in Europe is a direct result of Zionists/Israeli organizations along with George Soros, Clinton, Obama in the creation of ISIS and the fraudulent Syrian/Libyan wars.See my conference session Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference 2: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 and Cultural Marxism"Prof. Kevin McDonald, one of the speakers in our Academic Freedom Conference is actually one of the founders and a principles in the political movement that exposes the Zionist element of Cultural Marxism. He is fully aware of all the ramifications of the NeoNazi accusations and responds with scientific, rational and coherent counter arguments.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald  Prof Kevin McDonald is also one of eight directors of the American Freedom Party and is the main source of academic thought on what I've mentioned above.American Freedom Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  Zionists murdered nearly 3000 people on 9/11 as a component of their Cultural Marxism plan.   | |    |  | | | |  | American Freedom Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |  | | |           | | | |  |  | | | | |  | Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference 2: Session 14: Stephen Francis, "9/11 an... Stephen Francis proposed the first Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference, which was held on the campus of the University... |  | | |    Kevin MacDonald on Cultural Marxism 1/5   | | | |  |  | | | | |  | Kevin MacDonald on Cultural Marxism 1/5 Professor of Psychology at California Long Beach and author of the book "Culture of Critique", Profess... |  | | |      On Monday, September 12, 2016 8:32 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote:  Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Events this week - two re #NoDAPL opposing Dakota Access oil       pipeline (#NoDAPL) (Stuart Levy)   2. 9/11 and all that is yet to come..... (Karen Aram) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 23:54:22 -0500 From: Stuart Levy To: Peace Cc: Peace Discuss , occupycu     Subject: [Peace-discuss] Events this week - two re #NoDAPL opposing     Dakota Access oil pipeline (#NoDAPL) Message-ID: <7578850b-1754-0de3-38b3-b1fb28abb045 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Upcoming events - including **two** related to the Dakota Access Oil Pipeline, on Mon 9/12 (6:30 Urbana), and on Fri 9/16 (5pm Champaign). The Friday 5pm Scott Park (Champaign) event is Native-led and organized, in solidarity with the Standing Rock water protectors in North Dakota, where thousands of Native people are assembled in peaceful opposition to the Dakota Access Pipeline.  Hope you can attend, and please let others know. Hope too: at 6:30pm Wednesday 9/14, please come watch Naomi Klein's film "This Changes Everything", on climate change and citizen action.  Discussion to follow, including brief popup talks by several groups you can get involved with. Though not strictly anti-war events, they lie at the intersection of anticolonialism, the global geopolitics of energy, and the importance of popular resistance. Summary: Mon 9/12, 6:30pm, Urbana City Council Chambers, 400 S. Vine St, Urbana     Urge Urbana City Council to *oppose **Dakota Access Pipeline (#NoDAPL)*     Gather at City building at 6:30; Council meeting begins at 7.  Organized by Robert Naiman.   https://actionnetwork.org/events/nodapl-action-at-urbana-city-council-meeting?referrer=sierra-club Wed 9/14, 6:30pm-9pm, Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana     "This Changes Everything" film & discussion, with popup talks by *groups you can get involved with*     Film by Naomi Klein, on climate change and citizen action     https://www.facebook.com/events/329641967375716/ Fri 9/16, noon-1pm, University YMCA (Friday Forum), 1001 S. Wright St., Champaign     "Politics of Climate Change in Illinois", talk by Jen Walling, IL Environmental Council     https://www.facebook.com/events/1047884435309318/ Fri 9/16, 5-7pm, Scott Park, Champaign (between 2nd & 3rd Sts, between Springfield and Healey)     "In Solidarity with Standing Rock, the Earth, and all People, we will gather as Protectors in Peace at Scott Park in Champaign, IL"     Vigil/rally solidarity with the Standing Rock water protectors, peacefully opposing the Dakota Access Pipeline.     Organized by local Native people.  Everyone is welcome.     https://www.facebook.com/events/1787572761459012/   ================================================== ================================================== More details on the above --> Mon 9/12, 6:30pm, Urbana City Council Chambers, 400 S. Vine St, Urbana     #NoDAPL -- Come urge the Urbana City Council to adopt a resolution saying that they oppose the Dakota Access Oil Pipeline, and calling on the Obama Administration to ask the Corps of Engineers to revoke its construction permit.  This pipeline, running through the Dakotas, Iowa and into Illinois, would carry over a half million barrels per day of North Dakota Bakken crude oil - running through Native American lands, and putting major waterways at risk.    More below, or sign up to say you're coming:   https://actionnetwork.org/events/nodapl-action-at-urbana-city-council-meeting?referrer=sierra-club Wed 9/14, 6:30pm-9pm, Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana     Free and open to the public - Refreshments will be served.      Followed by discussion & avenues for action.     https://www.facebook.com/events/329641967375716/     Inspired by Naomi Klein’s book, "This Changes Everything: Capitalism     vs. the Climate," this film presents seven powerful portraits of     communities on the front lines of the climate crisis, and Klein     contends that "we can seize the existential crisis of climate change     to transform our failed economic system into something radically     better."     Please join us to call attention to the most important environmental     issue of our time.     A short trailer and more information about the film is here:     http://thefilm.thischangeseverything.org/about         Thanks to our cosponsors! Channing-Murray Foundation, Students for     Environmental Concerns (SECS), Eco-Justice Collaborative, Faith In     Place, Social Action Committee/Green UUs of the     Unitarian-Universalist Church of Urbana-Champaign, IL Environmental     Council, WATCH (We’re Against Toxic Chemicals), Just Foreign Policy,     AWARE, C-U Friends Meeting, University YMCA, Wesley Methodist Church     Green Team, Central IL Chapter of Jobs with Justice, Prairie Rivers     Network, Champaign County Health Care Consumers. Fri 9/16, 5-7pm, Scott Park, Champaign (between 2nd & 3rd Sts, between Springfield and Healey)       https://www.facebook.com/events/1787572761459012/     In Solidarity with Standing Rock, the Earth, and all People, we will     gather as Protectors in Peace at Scott Park in Champaign, IL on     Friday, September 16th from 5:00pm-7:00pm.     This event is Native-organized. We ask our entire community to join     us, but honor our request for this to be a Native-led and     Indigenous-centered space. To that end, we’ll begin with a schedule     of Indigenous speakers, followed by an open mic for all those     joining us in solidarity. Community, please join us. In our     tradition, all our children are our children. Everyone belongs here.     OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS HAPPENING and OUR CALL TO ACTION:     Thousands of Native Americans from over 100 tribes are campedon the     banks of the Cannonball River in North Dakota near the Standing Rock     Sioux (Dakota/Lakota) Reservation in a peaceful attempt to halt     construction of the Dakota Access oil pipeline, a 1200 mile long     pipeline running from the Bakken oil fields in North Dakota to     southern Illinois. The protesters tell us that the pipeline is     desecrating land sacred to the Standing Rock Sioux and putting     critical water supplies at risk of contamination. Over Labor Day     weekend, security guards for the pipeline’s owners used attack dogs     and pepper spray against protesters in a manner reminiscent of civil     rights protests in the 1960s. On September 8, the governor of North     Dakota called in the National Guard to provide backup to local law     enforcement against the protesters. Mainstream media coverage of     these events has been extremely sparse to date, and most news is     being transmitted via social media.     This situation lends clarity to a remarkable array of issues we need     to be able to think about, including caring for our beautiful planet     Earth and all of the people and other creatures who share it. The     events in North Dakota are an extraordinary example both of     capitalist institutions aligned against pro-human, pro-environmental     interests, and the 21st century model of how genocide is aimed at     Indigenous peoples. This is not a time to stay silent or passive to     determine what we do. Come and join the movement instead! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 12:31:37 +0000 From: Karen Aram To: "peace-discuss at lists.net" , Peace Discuss     Subject: [Peace-discuss] 9/11 and all that is yet to come..... Message-ID:         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" This article captures my opinion on 9/11 and all that has followed and all that is yet to come. No response required, no discussion desired, only food for thought: Fifteen years since the 9/11 attacks 12 September 2016 Yesterday marked the fifteenth anniversary of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 that killed more than 2,900 people in the United States. Nineteen supporters of Al Qaeda, 15 of them from Saudi Arabia, like the group’s founder Osama bin Laden, hijacked four airliners. They crashed two planes into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York, demolishing them; one into the Pentagon building in Washington; and plunged the other into a field in Pennsylvania to prevent passengers retaking control of the aircraft. The horrific mass murder of thousands of civilians was not only a criminal act. It was, from a political standpoint, reactionary. It served the interests of American and world imperialism. The ruling classes in the United States, Europe and, indeed, throughout the world, exploited the horror and confusion that followed the attack to legitimize perpetual war and ever-expanding attacks on democratic rights. The “war on terror,” proclaimed by the Bush administration in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, has been based, from the start, on misinformation and outright lies. The administration declared that the United States was engaged in a life-and-death struggle against Al Qaeda. Fifteen years later, it is a basic and undisputable fact that Al Qaeda is a key ally of the United States in the far-flung military operations being conducted by the CIA, above all in Syria. The “war on terror” was invoked to justify attacks on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Yemen—countries that had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. The death toll numbers in the millions. The devastation of the region is a principal factor in the greatest refugee crisis since World War II, with over 60 million displaced persons seeking sanctuary. A decade and a half after September 11, 2001, it is clear that the events of that day were no more the cause of the wars that followed than the assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo in June 1914 was the real cause of the outbreak of World War I. The US government has never attempted to explain how and why the “war on terror” has morphed into a conflict with the larger geostrategic rivals of the United States, particularly Russia and China, which threatens to unleash World War III. One of the most remarkable facts of the 9/11 attacks is that, despite their central role in the foreign and domestic policy of the United States for fifteen years, there has never been a serious and credible investigation of what actually took place. The US intelligence agencies had ample warning of the impending attacks, had kept many of the perpetrators under active surveillance, and had longstanding ties to Osama bin Laden and his network, which was formed out of the CIA-orchestrated guerrilla warfare in Afghanistan during the 1980s against the Soviet-backed regime then in power in Kabul. No government official has ever been held accountable for what is universally described as a catastrophic intelligence failure. After Pearl Harbor—to which 9/11 is frequently compared—admirals were fired. But not a single official of the vast US military-intelligence complex lost his job after an attack carried out by well-known terrorists, many of them under state surveillance, and two of them actually living in the home of an FBI informant. Within weeks of the attacks, US and allied military forces implemented long-held plans and invaded Afghanistan, on the pretext that the Islamist Taliban government was harboring bin Laden. The Afghan war has claimed tens of thousands of lives and driven millions from their homes in Afghanistan and north-west Pakistan. It continues to this day, more than five years after bin Laden’s assassination at the safe house where he resided, near a military college in the city of Abbottabad, Pakistan, a key US ally. Within the United States, the 9/11 attacks became the pretext for intensifying attacks on democratic rights, under conditions of ever-widening social inequality and mounting class antagonisms. The congressional passage of the “Authorization for the Use of Military Force”—which enshrined the illegal doctrine of “preventative war”—gave blanket authority to the White House to attack any state it assessed as a potential threat to the military or economic interests of the American ruling class. This was followed by the passage of the Patriot Act, which created the legal framework for a police state in America. In 2002, the Bush White House cited the “war on terror” as justification for CIA rendition and torture and the establishment of an extralegal prison at Guantanamo, Cuba, where prisoners could be held indefinitely, even for life, without any judicial proceeding. This was the corollary to a criminal policy of preventive war all over the world. The Obama administration, which followed Bush, cited the same rationale for its escalating campaign of drone missile attacks, which targeted thousands for assassination at the orders of the president. Under both administrations, the US intelligence apparatus has been massively built up, systematically spying on the American population, monitoring all telecommunications and the Internet worldwide. Meanwhile, the pattern of 9/11 has been repeated endlessly, in terrorist attacks from Paris to Brussels to London to Boston. In virtually every case of attacks by Al Qaeda or ISIS operatives or sympathizers, the perpetrators have been known to the security forces. They were free to carry out their bloody work for two reasons: their organizations were doing the bidding of imperialist foreign policy, particularly in Syria; and their atrocities confuse and stampede public opinion behind war, enabling the buildup of the forces of state repression, to be used against the working class. The real motivation behind the response to 9/11 was not retaliation for the terrorist attacks. It was the establishment of a direct US military footprint in the heart of Central Asia and US dominance over the Middle East, the key oil-producing region of the globe. The result over the past 15 years has been the vast destabilization of international relations and the emergence of open US war preparations against China—the state Washington perceives as its greatest rival in Asia—along with escalating tensions with Russia, which is viewed as a threat to American dominance in both Central Asia and Europe. As David North wrote in his Preface to the volume, A Quarter Century of War: The US Drive for Global Hegemony 1990–2016: “The last quarter century of US-instigated wars must be studied as a chain of interconnected events. The strategic logic of the US drive for global hegemony extends beyond the neocolonial operations in the Middle East and Africa. The ongoing regional wars are component elements of the rapidly escalating confrontation of the United States with Russia and China.” In Eastern Europe, NATO forces are mobilizing for military confrontation with Russia, whether in the Baltic States, Ukraine, the Black Sea or the Caucasus. The same type of media campaign used to demonize Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi and Assad, in preparation for their US-backed overthrow, is now being directed at Russian President Vladimir Putin. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is leading the charge, accusing Putin of cyber-sabotage of the US elections and attacking Republican Donald Trump as a Putin stooge. In Asia, the Obama administration launched the US “pivot” to the region in 2011, redeploying the majority of US naval and air forces to battle stations where they can strike at China. The US Navy is conducting provocative “freedom of navigation” exercises against Chinese-held islets in the South China Sea, while Washington is encouraging Japanese militarism and threatening North Korea. Whatever government comes to power in the United States as a result of the November 8 election, whether headed by Clinton or Trump, will continue and escalate the program of militarism, attacks on democratic rights, and economic austerity directed against the working class. The same agenda is being pursued by all the imperialist powers. That is all that the capitalist system, dominated by global economic and political crisis, has to offer. The only alternative is the international mobilization of the working class, on the basis of a socialist and antiwar program, under the leadership of the International Committee of the Fourth International. 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Sep 12 16:13:35 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 16:13:35 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My Apology Demanded by Manny Donchin Chair of UI/CIA Pseudo-Shrinks/Spooks Department Message-ID: When the CIA/FBI asked me to become an informant for them, I told them to take a hike! Fab. From: ArabLawyer at yahoogroups.com [mailto:ArabLawyer at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sahar Aziz Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 8:50 AM To: undisclosed-recipients Subject: [ArabLawyer] AAN: Article on civil rights attorney on terrorist watch list http://www.arabamericannews.com/news/index.php?mod=article&cat=Community&article=4627 Prominent attorney who refused to betray Arab and Muslim clients speaks on civil liberties, life on terror watch list By Nick Meyer Sunday, 08.21.2011, 02:25am The attorney-client privilege assuring confidentiality between the two parties is one of the most cherished rights of the American law system, but according to internationally recognized lawyer, author and professor Francis A. Boyle of the the University of Illinois-Champaign, government agents violated that privilege in a jarring summer 2004 visit. Speaking to The Arab American News, Boyle confirmed recent reports that he was visited by two agents from a joint FBI-CIA anti-terrorist fusion center located about a 90-minute drive away in Springfield, Ill. in his office in Champaign, who attempted to persuade him to become an informant on his Arab American and American Muslim clients. He said he repeatedly refused their requests to violate his clients' constitutional rights, only to find himself placed on the U.S. Government's terrorist watch list. "There's five or six of them, and my lawyer informed me that I'm on all of them," Boyle said "I filed an appeal but they told me, sorry, I would stay on the watch list forever until the agencies that put me on there took me off." Boyle, who has represented several high profile Arab and Muslim clients in the past, also said the agents repeatedly questioned him about interviews he has given in various international media outlets that were critical of U.S. foreign policy towards Arab and Muslim countries. Similar reports have also come out including a recent one about agents allegedly spying on University of Michigan professor and writer Juan Cole. Boyle's visit began innocently enough as the two agents introduced themselves to Boyle's secretary, he said. They identified themselves as businessmen who wanted to speak with him about matters of international law and were wearing suits and ties, looking reputable. Boyle let them in. "They misrepresented who they are and what they're about to my secretary," Boyle said. They also gave him no indication that Boyle would be placed on the terrorist watch list after leaving what Boyle called a "nearly hour-long interrogation." Speaking of interrogations, Boyle was subjected to one an hour and a half long upon returning from a lecture in Canada at the end of the summer of 2004. The pattern has continued for Boyle, who has a Ph.D in Political Science from Harvard University specializing in International Relations and has authored books such as "Biowarfare and Terrorism," which links the U.S. biowarfare development to the October 2001 post-9/11 anthrax attack on Congress, and "The Palestinian Right to Return Under International Law," which was released in March 2011. "I was flying in from Malaysia and two armed federal agents on the jet port saw me and my passport and took me into custody; they said 'You're coming with us,' and two guys with guns you're not going to argue with," he said. "After searching me they said they were looking for someone on the watch list but not you, of course; how many Francis Anthony Boyles are there in America?" Other extensive searches of Boyle occurred in Switzerland and Chicago. He's still waiting for an explanation as to why he was placed on the terrorism watch list and concerned about the future. "I'm not supposed to talk about clients' business to anyone let alone to become an informant on them, that violates their constitutional rights and also my ethical obligations as an attorney to maintain privacy," Boyle said. "Whether you like lawyers or not, we're sort of the canaries in the mineshaft of democracy, the first line of defense." An article in Criminal Justice Magazine in Summer 2002 said that immediately following the September 11 attacks against the U.S., then-Attorney General John Ashcroft issued a controversial order that permits the government to monitor all communications between client and attorney when there is 'reasonable suspicion' to 'believe that a particular inmate may use communications with attorneys or their agents to further or facilitate acts of violence or terrorism.' The order raises constitutional concerns under the First, Fourth Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments according to authors Paul Rice and Benjamin Saul. Boyle believes that the rights of attorneys and anti-war critics as well are under attack, as is the Constitution in general as many analysts have been saying. "They've gone after many other lawyers, and what they did to Juan Cole doesn't surprise me either," Boyle said. "We're living in a police state now and what people really need to understand, especially Arabs and Muslims, is that the police are not their friends," Boyle said. "No Arab or Muslim should talk to the FBI without a lawyer present, you have to be very careful dealing with these people." Boyle noted that about 1,200 non-citizens were rounded up immediately after the 9/11 attacks and that the only charges brought against them were actually for routine immigration violations or in some cases ordinary crimes as asserted in the 165-page report "America's Challenge" about civil liberties, domestic security and national unity after the attacks, released by the Washington-based Migration Policy Institute. More than one million people are currently on watch lists according to a USA Today report in 2009, but Boyle believes he's in more exclusive company on a list of about 5,000 people who were asked to be informants. Guarding against unjust tactics in the name of security is something that should drive Arab Americans and Muslims, and others, he said. "Arabs and Muslims and their supporters have to get organized and stop assuming the FBI is their friend, and to set up watch committees and inform themselves as to their rights under the law., and fight back in court," he said. "It's only going to get worse...the FBI and the CIA are completely out of anyone's control. And Arabs and Muslims are going to have to sit down and figure out how to combat this," he said. Boyle said they should band together to demand that the Department of Justice re-institute the Edward Hirsch Levy Guidelines, which terminated the FBI COINTEL spying program and were revoked after 9/11 by then-Attorney General John Ashcroft. He also said the communities need more lawyers and journalists to fight on their behalf. He remains concerned about the possibility of retribution against he and others should another attack occur but plans to remain firm in his commitment to his country and its ideals of freedom. "It feels sort of like a loaded gun sitting there," he said. "But I was born here and I will stay here as a U.S. citizen, and stand and fight for the rights and future of this country." -- Sahar Aziz Associate Professor of Law Texas Wesleyan University School of Law (202) 455-0063 saziz at saharazizlaw.com www.saharazizlaw.com Follow me on Twitter: @saharazizlaw www.twitter.com/saharazizlaw http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=548232274 See my latest article: Citizens, Not Subjects: Debunking the Sectarian Narrative of the Pro-Democracy Movement in Bahrain http://www.ispu.org/detailed_publication.php?type=reports&id=640 View my research on my SSRN Author page: http://ssrn.com/author=1459001 This email message, including any attachments, may be a privileged and confidential communication. 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Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: My Apology Demanded by Manny Donchin Chair of UI/CIA Pseudo-Shrinks/Spooks Department As I had told you, after our CIA Off Campus Panel that Jeff unearthed, Manny Donchin, then Chair of our CIA Pseudo-Shrinks Spooks Department sent me a pretty nasty letter demanding an apology or else he would sue me, with copies to all the campus bigwigs. Here is my apology to Manny, with copies to all the campus bigwigs. Upon its receipt, Manny sent me a very short note thanking me for my apology and stating that the matter was closed. I just love to apologize to CIA academic whores. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Downs, Kelly Louise Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:28 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: FW: Attached Image[1] From: 324 [mailto:324-copier at law.illinois.edu] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:26 AM To: Downs, Kelly Louise > Subject: Attached Image[1] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Mon Sep 12 18:29:15 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 13:29:15 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] 9/11 and all that is yet to come..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00e301d20d23$91d33480$b5799d80$@comcast.net> Good article Karen, I thought this statement below from the article was especially relevant ; " Meanwhile, the pattern of 9/11 has been repeated endlessly, in terrorist attacks from Paris to Brussels to London to Boston. In virtually every case of attacks by Al Qaeda or ISIS operatives or sympathizers, the perpetrators have been known to the security forces. They were free to carry out their bloody work for two reasons: their organizations were doing the bidding of imperialist foreign policy, particularly in Syria; and their atrocities confuse and stampede public opinion behind war, enabling the buildup of the forces of state repression, to be used against the working class. " David Johnson From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 7:32 AM To: peace-discuss at lists.net; Peace Discuss Subject: [Peace-discuss] 9/11 and all that is yet to come..... This article captures my opinion on 9/11 and all that has followed and all that is yet to come. No response required, no discussion desired, only food for thought: Fifteen years since the 9/11 attacks 12 September 2016 Yesterday marked the fifteenth anniversary of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 that killed more than 2,900 people in the United States. Nineteen supporters of Al Qaeda, 15 of them from Saudi Arabia, like the group's founder Osama bin Laden, hijacked four airliners. They crashed two planes into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York, demolishing them; one into the Pentagon building in Washington; and plunged the other into a field in Pennsylvania to prevent passengers retaking control of the aircraft. The horrific mass murder of thousands of civilians was not only a criminal act. It was, from a political standpoint, reactionary. It served the interests of American and world imperialism. The ruling classes in the United States, Europe and, indeed, throughout the world, exploited the horror and confusion that followed the attack to legitimize perpetual war and ever-expanding attacks on democratic rights. The "war on terror," proclaimed by the Bush administration in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, has been based, from the start, on misinformation and outright lies. The administration declared that the United States was engaged in a life-and-death struggle against Al Qaeda. Fifteen years later, it is a basic and undisputable fact that Al Qaeda is a key ally of the United States in the far-flung military operations being conducted by the CIA, above all in Syria. The "war on terror" was invoked to justify attacks on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Yemen-countries that had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. The death toll numbers in the millions. The devastation of the region is a principal factor in the greatest refugee crisis since World War II, with over 60 million displaced persons seeking sanctuary. A decade and a half after September 11, 2001, it is clear that the events of that day were no more the cause of the wars that followed than the assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo in June 1914 was the real cause of the outbreak of World War I. The US government has never attempted to explain how and why the "war on terror" has morphed into a conflict with the larger geostrategic rivals of the United States, particularly Russia and China, which threatens to unleash World War III. One of the most remarkable facts of the 9/11 attacks is that, despite their central role in the foreign and domestic policy of the United States for fifteen years, there has never been a serious and credible investigation of what actually took place. The US intelligence agencies had ample warning of the impending attacks, had kept many of the perpetrators under active surveillance, and had longstanding ties to Osama bin Laden and his network, which was formed out of the CIA-orchestrated guerrilla warfare in Afghanistan during the 1980s against the Soviet-backed regime then in power in Kabul. No government official has ever been held accountable for what is universally described as a catastrophic intelligence failure. After Pearl Harbor-to which 9/11 is frequently compared-admirals were fired. But not a single official of the vast US military-intelligence complex lost his job after an attack carried out by well-known terrorists, many of them under state surveillance, and two of them actually living in the home of an FBI informant. Within weeks of the attacks, US and allied military forces implemented long-held plans and invaded Afghanistan, on the pretext that the Islamist Taliban government was harboring bin Laden. The Afghan war has claimed tens of thousands of lives and driven millions from their homes in Afghanistan and north-west Pakistan. It continues to this day, more than five years after bin Laden's assassination at the safe house where he resided, near a military college in the city of Abbottabad, Pakistan, a key US ally. Within the United States, the 9/11 attacks became the pretext for intensifying attacks on democratic rights, under conditions of ever-widening social inequality and mounting class antagonisms. The congressional passage of the "Authorization for the Use of Military Force"-which enshrined the illegal doctrine of "preventative war"-gave blanket authority to the White House to attack any state it assessed as a potential threat to the military or economic interests of the American ruling class. This was followed by the passage of the Patriot Act, which created the legal framework for a police state in America. In 2002, the Bush White House cited the "war on terror" as justification for CIA rendition and torture and the establishment of an extralegal prison at Guantanamo, Cuba, where prisoners could be held indefinitely, even for life, without any judicial proceeding. This was the corollary to a criminal policy of preventive war all over the world. The Obama administration, which followed Bush, cited the same rationale for its escalating campaign of drone missile attacks, which targeted thousands for assassination at the orders of the president. Under both administrations, the US intelligence apparatus has been massively built up, systematically spying on the American population, monitoring all telecommunications and the Internet worldwide. Meanwhile, the pattern of 9/11 has been repeated endlessly, in terrorist attacks from Paris to Brussels to London to Boston. In virtually every case of attacks by Al Qaeda or ISIS operatives or sympathizers, the perpetrators have been known to the security forces. They were free to carry out their bloody work for two reasons: their organizations were doing the bidding of imperialist foreign policy, particularly in Syria; and their atrocities confuse and stampede public opinion behind war, enabling the buildup of the forces of state repression, to be used against the working class. The real motivation behind the response to 9/11 was not retaliation for the terrorist attacks. It was the establishment of a direct US military footprint in the heart of Central Asia and US dominance over the Middle East, the key oil-producing region of the globe. The result over the past 15 years has been the vast destabilization of international relations and the emergence of open US war preparations against China-the state Washington perceives as its greatest rival in Asia-along with escalating tensions with Russia, which is viewed as a threat to American dominance in both Central Asia and Europe. As David North wrote in his Preface to the volume, A Quarter Century of War: The US Drive for Global Hegemony 1990-2016: "The last quarter century of US-instigated wars must be studied as a chain of interconnected events. The strategic logic of the US drive for global hegemony extends beyond the neocolonial operations in the Middle East and Africa. The ongoing regional wars are component elements of the rapidly escalating confrontation of the United States with Russia and China." In Eastern Europe, NATO forces are mobilizing for military confrontation with Russia, whether in the Baltic States, Ukraine, the Black Sea or the Caucasus. The same type of media campaign used to demonize Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi and Assad, in preparation for their US-backed overthrow, is now being directed at Russian President Vladimir Putin. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is leading the charge, accusing Putin of cyber-sabotage of the US elections and attacking Republican Donald Trump as a Putin stooge. In Asia, the Obama administration launched the US "pivot" to the region in 2011, redeploying the majority of US naval and air forces to battle stations where they can strike at China. The US Navy is conducting provocative "freedom of navigation" exercises against Chinese-held islets in the South China Sea, while Washington is encouraging Japanese militarism and threatening North Korea. Whatever government comes to power in the United States as a result of the November 8 election, whether headed by Clinton or Trump, will continue and escalate the program of militarism, attacks on democratic rights, and economic austerity directed against the working class. The same agenda is being pursued by all the imperialist powers. That is all that the capitalist system, dominated by global economic and political crisis, has to offer. The only alternative is the international mobilization of the working class, on the basis of a socialist and antiwar program, under the leadership of the International Committee of the Fourth International. This perspective is contained in the ICFI statement published on February 18, 2016, "Socialism and the Fight Against War ." We urge all WSWS readers who agree with the principles outlined as the foundation for a socialist and internationalist anti-war movement to join our ranks. The WSWS editorial board -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Mon Sep 12 18:47:21 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 13:47:21 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Advanced Pyrotechnic or Explosive Material Discovered in WTC Dust Message-ID: <00ff01d20d26$192466a0$4b6d33e0$@comcast.net> Advanced Pyrotechnic or Explosive Material Discovered in WTC Dust Description: Print Description: E-mail Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:38 Starting in 2007, a group of independent researchers began examining the dust from the World Trade Center disaster to see if identifiable residues might help explain the highly energetic destruction that was observed in the videos. Naked-eye and microscopic examination revealed numerous tiny metallic and magnetically attracted spheres and red/gray chips, quite distinctive in the dust samples. Description: http://www2.ae911truth.org/images/infoitems/pyro2.jpgHighly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive red/gray chips discovered in WTC dust samples The existence of iron-rich microspheres in the WTC dust was documented in 2004 and 2005. But nothing yet had been published about the red/gray chips in the dust until Steven Jones first described them in 2007. What might have been misinterpreted as the residue of common paint when seen with the naked eye proved to be a highly energetic advanced nano-composite material. Description: http://www2.ae911truth.org/images/infoitems/zoom.jpgIn April 2009, a team of scientists that included physicist Steven Jones (formerly BYU), chemist Niels Harrit (University of Copenhagen, Denmark), physicist Jeffrey Farrer (BYU), and six other authors published their findings regarding the red/gray chips in the peer-reviewed paper “ Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe,” The Open Chemical Physics Journal, 2009, 2, 7-31, available online. Red/gray chips from four different WTC dust samples were examined using scanning electron microscopy, X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry. The main findings of the study are as follows: The material in the red layer consists of intimately mixed particles of iron oxide and aluminum embedded in a carbon-rich matrix. The particles range in size from tens to hundreds of nanometers. Elemental aluminum was present in thin plate-like structures, while iron oxide was present as faceted grains, roughly 100 nm across – about a thousand times smaller than a human hair. Iron oxide and aluminum are the ingredients of classic thermite, an incendiary that burns unusually hot at approximately 4500°F, producing aluminum oxide and molten iron. The carbon content of the matrix indicates the presence of an organic substance. When the red/gray chips were heated to about 430° C. (806° F.), they ignited, releasing relatively large amounts of energy very fast. This behavior matches “fairly closely an independent observation on a known super-thermite sample”, as reported in a paper published by researchers associated with Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories. The residue of the ignited red/gray chips included iron-rich spheres, “indicating that a very high temperature reaction had occurred, since the iron-rich product clearly must have been molten to form these shapes.” The chemical signature of the spheres and spheroids “strikingly matches the chemical signature of the spheroids produced by igniting commercial thermite, and also matches the signatures of many of the microspheres found in the WTC dust.” The scientists concluded based on all their findings that the red layer of the red/ gray chips “is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology,” and that it “is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.” See the published study for the remainder of the findings. Energetic nanothermitic compounds have been researched since the 1990s. One “advantage” of nanothermites as stated in the literature is their ability to enhance the destructive effect of high explosives; the high rate of reaction in nanothermites allows the main explosive charge to release its energy even faster when nanothermite is used as an igniter. Such igniters also do not leave behind lead-containing residues as lead azide igniters do. Nanothermitic composite materials have been extensively researched by US national labs. The energy release of these special materials can be tailored for various applications, they can be designed to be explosive by adding gas-releasing compounds (such as what the matrix of the WTC chips' red layer might consist of) and they have potential for easy storage and safe handling. As of 2002, the production process at the Naval Surface Warfare Center for ultra fine grain (UFG) aluminum, alone, required several pieces of high-tech equipment. The article states: “The current state of UFG aluminum production is that this is an area that still requires considerable effort” (AMPTIAC Quarterly, Special Issue, “DOD Researchers Provide A Look Inside Nanotechnology,” 2002). Red/gray chips, with a red layer that comprises ultra fine grain aluminum platelets intimately mixed with faceted grains of nanosized iron oxide, embedded in a carbon-rich matrix, cannot have been widely available in 2001. Niels Harrit, lead author of the study, stated “These new findings confirm and extend the earlier finding of previously molten, iron-rich microspheres in the World Trade Center dust. They provide strong forensic evidence that the official explanation of the WTC’s destruction is wrong.” Given the explosive nature of the destruction of the WTC Twin Towers along with the finding of this high-tech nanocomposite pyrotechnic or explosive material in the WTC dust samples, there exists strong evidence which should compel all who are aware to be active in supporting AE911Truth in our effort to obtain a real investigation. See also the essays by Jim Hoffman " Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust", and " Wake Up and Smell the Aluminothermic Nanocomposite Explosives" at 911Research.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 379 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image004.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 34803 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 21:27:34 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 98 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <216557526.3005232.1473715654207@mail.yahoo.com> The evidence in your piece David should be enough for the US to start a new investigation.If it were Snowden, or Asange it would happen it a second, but it's not.Nanothermite or even SuperDuperNanoThermite could not have hurled 100 ton beam structures hundreds of feet.The Thermite people never tell you how it was applied.It's an incendiary. I would have to be applied to every single beam and floor throughout the WTC towers,It would take thousands of tons of Thermite...and a small army to apply it... and would take months.Mininukes (actual method) would require a few workers/ and a couple of vans...which is what happened.Whatever... we still have no new investigation. On Monday, September 12, 2016 2:47 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Advanced Pyrotechnic or Explosive Material    Discovered in WTC       Dust (David Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 13:47:21 -0500 From: "David Johnson" To: Subject: [Peace-discuss] Advanced Pyrotechnic or Explosive Material     Discovered in WTC Dust Message-ID: <00ff01d20d26$192466a0$4b6d33e0$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Advanced Pyrotechnic or Explosive Material Discovered in WTC Dust Description: Print Description: E-mail Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:38 Starting in 2007, a group of independent researchers began examining the dust from the World Trade Center disaster to see if identifiable residues might help explain the highly energetic destruction that was observed in the videos. Naked-eye and microscopic examination revealed numerous tiny metallic and magnetically attracted spheres and red/gray chips, quite distinctive in the dust samples. Description: http://www2.ae911truth.org/images/infoitems/pyro2.jpgHighly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive red/gray chips discovered in WTC dust samples The existence of iron-rich microspheres in the WTC dust was documented in 2004 and 2005. But nothing yet had been published about the red/gray chips in the dust until Steven Jones first described them in 2007. What might have been misinterpreted as the residue of common paint when seen with the naked eye proved to be a highly energetic advanced nano-composite material. Description: http://www2.ae911truth.org/images/infoitems/zoom.jpgIn April 2009, a team of scientists that included physicist Steven Jones (formerly BYU), chemist Niels Harrit (University of Copenhagen, Denmark), physicist Jeffrey Farrer (BYU), and six other authors published their findings regarding the red/gray chips in the peer-reviewed paper Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe, The Open Chemical Physics Journal, 2009, 2, 7-31, available online. Red/gray chips from four different WTC dust samples were examined using scanning electron microscopy, X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry. The main findings of the study are as follows: The material in the red layer consists of intimately mixed particles of iron oxide and aluminum embedded in a carbon-rich matrix. The particles range in size from tens to hundreds of nanometers. Elemental aluminum was present in thin plate-like structures, while iron oxide was present as faceted grains, roughly 100 nm across  about a thousand times smaller than a human hair. Iron oxide and aluminum are the ingredients of classic thermite, an incendiary that burns unusually hot at approximately 4500°F, producing aluminum oxide and molten iron. The carbon content of the matrix indicates the presence of an organic substance. When the red/gray chips were heated to about 430° C. (806° F.), they ignited, releasing relatively large amounts of energy very fast. This behavior matches fairly closely an independent observation on a known super-thermite sample, as reported in a paper published by researchers associated with Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories. The residue of the ignited red/gray chips included iron-rich spheres, indicating that a very high temperature reaction had occurred, since the iron-rich product clearly must have been molten to form these shapes. The chemical signature of the spheres and spheroids strikingly matches the chemical signature of the spheroids produced by igniting commercial thermite, and also matches the signatures of many of the microspheres found in the WTC dust. The scientists concluded based on all their findings that the red layer of the red/ gray chips is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and that it is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material. See the published study for the remainder of the findings. Energetic nanothermitic compounds have been researched since the 1990s. One advantage of nanothermites as stated in the literature is their ability to enhance the destructive effect of high explosives; the high rate of reaction in nanothermites allows the main explosive charge to release its energy even faster when nanothermite is used as an igniter. Such igniters also do not leave behind lead-containing residues as lead azide igniters do. Nanothermitic composite materials have been extensively researched by US national labs. The energy release of these special materials can be tailored for various applications, they can be designed to be explosive by adding gas-releasing compounds (such as what the matrix of the WTC chips' red layer might consist of) and they have potential for easy storage and safe handling. As of 2002, the production process at the Naval Surface Warfare Center for ultra fine grain (UFG) aluminum, alone, required several pieces of high-tech equipment. The article states: The current state of UFG aluminum production is that this is an area that still requires considerable effort (AMPTIAC Quarterly, Special Issue, DOD Researchers Provide A Look Inside Nanotechnology, 2002). Red/gray chips, with a red layer that comprises ultra fine grain aluminum platelets intimately mixed with faceted grains of nanosized iron oxide, embedded in a carbon-rich matrix, cannot have been widely available in 2001. Niels Harrit, lead author of the study, stated These new findings confirm and extend the earlier finding of previously molten, iron-rich microspheres in the World Trade Center dust. They provide strong forensic evidence that the official explanation of the WTCs destruction is wrong. Given the explosive nature of the destruction of the WTC Twin Towers along with the finding of this high-tech nanocomposite pyrotechnic or explosive material in the WTC dust samples, there exists strong evidence which should compel all who are aware to be active in supporting AE911Truth in our effort to obtain a real investigation. See also the essays by Jim Hoffman " Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust", and " Wake Up and Smell the Aluminothermic Nanocomposite Explosives" at 911Research.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 21:42:01 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 98 In-Reply-To: <216557526.3005232.1473715654207@mail.yahoo.com> References: <216557526.3005232.1473715654207@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1617032090.3093624.1473716521139@mail.yahoo.com> Whether it was nanothermite or mininukes...is immaterial for the hijackers would had no access to the core columns of the WTC, or nanothermite or mininukes. The 9/11 Truth finds no evidence that they were involved in any way.Only Jewish operated security firms had full access to the towers (Kroll, Hauer ...with the full knowledge of Silverstein, Giuliani...etcI could go on for days. On Monday, September 12, 2016 5:31 PM, Stephen Francis wrote: The evidence in your piece David should be enough for the US to start a new investigation.If it were Snowden, or Asange it would happen it a second, but it's not.Nanothermite or even SuperDuperNanoThermite could not have hurled 100 ton beam structures hundreds of feet.The Thermite people never tell you how it was applied.It's an incendiary. I would have to be applied to every single beam and floor throughout the WTC towers,It would take thousands of tons of Thermite...and a small army to apply it... and would take months.Mininukes (actual method) would require a few workers/ and a couple of vans...which is what happened.Whatever... we still have no new investigation. On Monday, September 12, 2016 2:47 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Advanced Pyrotechnic or Explosive Material    Discovered in WTC       Dust (David Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 13:47:21 -0500 From: "David Johnson" To: Subject: [Peace-discuss] Advanced Pyrotechnic or Explosive Material     Discovered in WTC Dust Message-ID: <00ff01d20d26$192466a0$4b6d33e0$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Advanced Pyrotechnic or Explosive Material Discovered in WTC Dust Description: Print Description: E-mail Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:38 Starting in 2007, a group of independent researchers began examining the dust from the World Trade Center disaster to see if identifiable residues might help explain the highly energetic destruction that was observed in the videos. Naked-eye and microscopic examination revealed numerous tiny metallic and magnetically attracted spheres and red/gray chips, quite distinctive in the dust samples. Description: http://www2.ae911truth.org/images/infoitems/pyro2.jpgHighly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive red/gray chips discovered in WTC dust samples The existence of iron-rich microspheres in the WTC dust was documented in 2004 and 2005. But nothing yet had been published about the red/gray chips in the dust until Steven Jones first described them in 2007. What might have been misinterpreted as the residue of common paint when seen with the naked eye proved to be a highly energetic advanced nano-composite material. Description: http://www2.ae911truth.org/images/infoitems/zoom.jpgIn April 2009, a team of scientists that included physicist Steven Jones (formerly BYU), chemist Niels Harrit (University of Copenhagen, Denmark), physicist Jeffrey Farrer (BYU), and six other authors published their findings regarding the red/gray chips in the peer-reviewed paper Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe, The Open Chemical Physics Journal, 2009, 2, 7-31, available online. Red/gray chips from four different WTC dust samples were examined using scanning electron microscopy, X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry. The main findings of the study are as follows: The material in the red layer consists of intimately mixed particles of iron oxide and aluminum embedded in a carbon-rich matrix. The particles range in size from tens to hundreds of nanometers. Elemental aluminum was present in thin plate-like structures, while iron oxide was present as faceted grains, roughly 100 nm across  about a thousand times smaller than a human hair. Iron oxide and aluminum are the ingredients of classic thermite, an incendiary that burns unusually hot at approximately 4500°F, producing aluminum oxide and molten iron. The carbon content of the matrix indicates the presence of an organic substance. When the red/gray chips were heated to about 430° C. (806° F.), they ignited, releasing relatively large amounts of energy very fast. This behavior matches fairly closely an independent observation on a known super-thermite sample, as reported in a paper published by researchers associated with Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories. The residue of the ignited red/gray chips included iron-rich spheres, indicating that a very high temperature reaction had occurred, since the iron-rich product clearly must have been molten to form these shapes. The chemical signature of the spheres and spheroids strikingly matches the chemical signature of the spheroids produced by igniting commercial thermite, and also matches the signatures of many of the microspheres found in the WTC dust. The scientists concluded based on all their findings that the red layer of the red/ gray chips is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and that it is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material. See the published study for the remainder of the findings. Energetic nanothermitic compounds have been researched since the 1990s. One advantage of nanothermites as stated in the literature is their ability to enhance the destructive effect of high explosives; the high rate of reaction in nanothermites allows the main explosive charge to release its energy even faster when nanothermite is used as an igniter. Such igniters also do not leave behind lead-containing residues as lead azide igniters do. Nanothermitic composite materials have been extensively researched by US national labs. The energy release of these special materials can be tailored for various applications, they can be designed to be explosive by adding gas-releasing compounds (such as what the matrix of the WTC chips' red layer might consist of) and they have potential for easy storage and safe handling. As of 2002, the production process at the Naval Surface Warfare Center for ultra fine grain (UFG) aluminum, alone, required several pieces of high-tech equipment. The article states: The current state of UFG aluminum production is that this is an area that still requires considerable effort (AMPTIAC Quarterly, Special Issue, DOD Researchers Provide A Look Inside Nanotechnology, 2002). Red/gray chips, with a red layer that comprises ultra fine grain aluminum platelets intimately mixed with faceted grains of nanosized iron oxide, embedded in a carbon-rich matrix, cannot have been widely available in 2001. Niels Harrit, lead author of the study, stated These new findings confirm and extend the earlier finding of previously molten, iron-rich microspheres in the World Trade Center dust. They provide strong forensic evidence that the official explanation of the WTCs destruction is wrong. Given the explosive nature of the destruction of the WTC Twin Towers along with the finding of this high-tech nanocomposite pyrotechnic or explosive material in the WTC dust samples, there exists strong evidence which should compel all who are aware to be active in supporting AE911Truth in our effort to obtain a real investigation. See also the essays by Jim Hoffman " Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust", and " Wake Up and Smell the Aluminothermic Nanocomposite Explosives" at 911Research.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Sep 12 23:10:33 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 23:10:33 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] US - Russia Peace Agreement, so much for hope. Message-ID: * Print * Leaflet * Feedback * Share » Fighting rages on in Syria in wake of US-Russia brokered agreement By Jordan Shilton 12 September 2016 US Secretary of State John Kerry and his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov announced an agreement early Saturday morning on cooperation between Washington and Moscow in Syria’s five-year-old civil war. The US and Russia have committed to a ceasefire beginning Monday at sunset, which is to last for a week over the Eid holiday. The US-backed rebel groups are supposed to cease attacking government-held areas, although it appears increasingly likely that some rebel groups will refuse to implement the deal. The Assad government has agreed to allow humanitarian supplies into Aleppo. The deal is being presented as having the potential of bringing peace to the war-torn country. But the very suggestion that a deal crafted by Washington can serve to bring peace to Syria, a country that has seen around half a million deaths and a population decline of some 5 million due to a US-orchestrated war for regime change, is preposterous. In reality, Washington has acceded to the agreement to give some respite to its proxy forces around Aleppo in particular, where government troops have made substantial gains over recent weeks. In addition, the hypocritical handwringing from the political and media establishment over the terrible conditions faced by the Syrian population caused by the war they played a central role in fomenting and promoting is a transparent attempt to create the conditions for more direct US and Western intervention under the pretext of human rights. It remains questionable whether the ceasefire will come into force, let alone hold. The ink was barely dry on the agreement when upwards of 100 civilians were reportedly killed Saturday as fighting raged in and around Aleppo and Idlib. The Assad government was accused of conducting airstrikes on civilian areas, while opposition groups shelled residential areas in the government-controlled part of Aleppo, Damascus, Dara’a and Hama. Moreover, it is little more than six months since the previous US and Russian ceasefire was brokered in February, only to unravel weeks later as Washington announced plans to send special forces to Syria as it intensified its five-year war for regime change. Support for the deal within the US political establishment is by no means unanimous. The Guardian noted that significant forces in the Pentagon are reluctant to sanction any relaxation of the conflict in Syria due to the likelihood of a more aggressive President Clinton coming to office after November’s election. Clinton has already vowed to intervene more directly in Syria to achieve the overthrow of the Assad regime and the installation of a pro-western puppet government—the main concern of Washington from the outset of the conflict in 2011. The other key provision of the agreement, which will see Russian and US aircraft cooperate in the targeting of Islamic State and other extremist groups like the al-Nusra Front, is no less problematic. Even reports in the bourgeois media acknowledge that Washington still has to convince so-called moderate groups to separate themselves from al-Nusra fighters, who have been systematically built up, financed and armed by the US to wage war on Assad. US-aligned rebel groups in the Free Syrian Army denounced the deal in a letter to the US for defining the former al-Nusra Front, now known as Jabhat Ahrar al-Sham since it formally broke with al-Qaida, as a terrorist organization but leaving out Hezbollah fighters backed by Iran. The FSA has not formally announced that it will abide by the deal, although spokesmen were cited by Reuters yesterday saying they would. Others suggested intra-rebel clashes could break out, as some groups would remain aligned to the former al-Nusra fighters. This only underscores the fraudulent character of the incessant claims made by the US and the corporate media that Washington has been backing “moderate” rebels. The backbone of the Syrian opposition is in truth made up of Islamist extremist forces. The verbal pledge of cooperation between Moscow and Washington has in no way reduced the tensions over Syria. While the US hopes to strengthen its dominance throughout the Middle East by removing Assad and installing a regime more pliant to its interests, the Kremlin intervened in the conflict to defend its main ally in the region and its sole military base outside of the former Soviet Union. The potential for a military conflagration between the nuclear-armed powers, which would quickly spiral out of control and provoke a broader war, remain very high. The increased presence of the European imperialist powers, such as Germany, which expanded its presence at the Incirlik air base in Turkey last week, and Britain, which is reportedly operating covertly within Syria, makes the situation even more explosive. Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook gave some indication of this in his terse response to the Kerry-Lavrov deal. Openly questioning the readiness of Assad and Russia to hold up its end of the bargain, Cook stated, “Those commitments must be fully met before any potential military cooperation can occur. We will be watching closely the implementation of this understanding in the days ahead.” Cook’s remarks are no mere idle threat, but demonstrate that the US military will seize on the slightest incident to renege on the deal and plunge the country into all-out war if it determines that this is the best way to secure Washington’s geostrategic interests against its rivals. They were made just days after Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter provocatively told a British audience that Moscow was trying to reshape the world order and in the context of a US presidential election campaign in which the Democrats are presenting themselves as the party most committed to upholding Washington’s interests around the globe by use of military force. Critically, the agreement provides for the banning of the Syrian air force from areas in which the US and Russia have agreed to cooperate to target ISIS and other extremist groups. This lays the basis for direct clashes, staged or otherwise, between US and Syrian planes and could mark an important first step in the establishment of a no-fly zone. This could, in turn, rapidly involve the air forces of the other imperialist powers to enforce it. The British government appeared equally unconvinced by the deal. Foreign secretary Boris Johnson made a barely veiled criticism of Russia in his statement on the agreement, urging “all parties to the Syria conflict and all countries with influence upon them to do what is needed to end violence and lift sieges.” He added, “They will be judged by their actions alone.” The so-called peace deal will see no let-up in the Turkish incursion into the north of Syria, which Ankara sees as essential to dislodge the Kurdish fighters of the People’s Protection Units (YPG) so as to block the emergence of a Kurdish-controlled zone on its southern border. In fact, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced Sunday that the intervention would be expanded. The justification for this was his country’s “duty” to defeat ISIS, he claimed. Ankara has made clear its intentions to carve out a substantial area of Syrian territory along its border, where it intends to confine refugees and some of the anti-Assad forces with which it is collaborating. Erdogan even suggested that Turkish troops could be used to supply aid to areas in the north of the country, including Aleppo. Should this take place, the deployment of troops from a NATO member deep into Syria could serve as the prelude to a wider intervention by the US-led military alliance. Stepped-up efforts to exploit human rights to hasten the downfall of the Assad regime were already on display prior to Saturday’s agreement. The New York Times carried a prominent article on the decision of 73 Syrian aid organizations to break ties with the United Nations on the basis of allegations that UN operations in the country were cooperating too closely with Damascus. The groups, including many which openly back opposition forces, said they would no longer participate in the UN’s information-sharing system. Kerry and others wasted no time in pressing for stepped-up efforts to remove Assad. “Today the United States and Russia are announcing a plan which we hope will reduce violence, reduce suffering and resume movement toward a negotiated peace and a transition in Syria...that, if followed, has the ability to provide a turning point, a moment of change,” he cynically declared after the agreement. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Sep 13 01:48:50 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 01:48:50 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Worthwhile lecture to attend this week at U of I Message-ID: IS | LAW INTRANET * Admissions * Faculty * Academics * Careers Services * Library * Alumni Relations * Giving * CALENDAR * Upcoming Featured Events * Upcoming Lectures and Conferences * Academic Calendar * Schedule an Event "The Constitution at a Crossroads" by Akhil Reed Amar (Yale) Thursday, September 15, 2016 Room A, College of Law Building 11:00 AM–11:45 AM For the first time in our lifetime—and for one of the few times in modern history—all four major federal institutions of power are in play, electorally speaking. Come January, the Democrats could control the House, Senate, Presidency, and Supreme Court. Or the Republicans could control all four. Or we could continue with divided government. We are guaranteed to have a new president—a guarantee that arises only every eighth year—and the Supreme Court could shift away from Republican control for the first time in nearly half a century. In this talk, Yale Law Professor Akhil Reed Amar will discuss the constitutional significance of all this. Akhil Reed Amar is Sterling Professor of Law and Political Science at Yale University, where he teaches constitutional law in both Yale College and Yale Law School. After graduating from Yale College, summa cum laude, in 1980 and from Yale Law School in 1984, and clerking for then Judge (now Justice) Stephen Breyer, Amar joined the Yale faculty in 1985 at the age of 26. His work has won awards from both the American Bar Association and the Federalist Society, and he has been favorably cited by Supreme Court justices across the spectrum in more than 30 cases—tops in his generation. In various comprehensive surveys of judicial citations and/or scholarly citations, he invariably ranks among America’s five most-cited legal scholars under age sixty. He is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and in 2008 he received the DeVane Medal—Yale’s highest award for teaching excellence. He has written widely for popular publications such as The New York Times, The Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, the Los Angeles Times, The Atlantic, and Slate. He was an informal consultant to the popular TV show, The West Wing, and his work has been showcased on more recent TV shows such as The Colbert Report, Charlie Rose, and The MHP Show. Professor Amar is the author of dozens of law review articles and several books, including The Constitution and Criminal Procedure: First Principles(Yale Univ. Press, 1997), The Bill of Rights: Creation and Reconstruction (Yale Univ. Press, 1998), America’s Constitution: A Biography (Random House, 2005), America’s Unwritten Constitution: The Precedents and Principles We Live By (Basic Books, 2012), and The Law of the Land: A Grand Tour of our Constitutional Republic (Basic Books, 2015). His newest book, The Constitution Today: Timeless Lessons for the Issues of Our Era, is being published in September 2016—just in time for what promises to be a momentous election. Free and open to the public. Following the lecture, consider attending the "Free Speech on Campus" panel discussion at the Illini Union, Room A. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuartnlevy at gmail.com Wed Sep 14 15:19:50 2016 From: stuartnlevy at gmail.com (Stuart Levy) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 10:19:50 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] 8pm CDT tonight- The Many Wars of Syria - conf. call with Phyllis Bennis In-Reply-To: <57d964a15e642_11738d30ec0122257@asgworker-qmb2-i-c7e28bf6.nbuild.prd.useast1.3dna.io.mail> References: <57d964a15e642_11738d30ec0122257@asgworker-qmb2-i-c7e28bf6.nbuild.prd.useast1.3dna.io.mail> Message-ID: <81b5a28e-2a3d-cddb-11a1-c66c87ee04b0@gmail.com> PDA conference call on Syria, with Phyllis Bennis -- tonight (Wed 9/14) at 8pm Central time. e.g. "What would diplomacy look like in such a complex set of wars? What are solutions that the US Peace Movement could be pushing? For one, we should be extending the good efforts against arms sales to Saudi Arabia -- always promoting the goal of a Weapons-of-Mass-Destruction Free Zone in the Middle East (and why stop there?)." Details below. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: REMINDER: The Many Wars of Syria with Phyllis Bennis - Tonight at 9pm Eastern Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 14:54:25 +0000 From: Progressive Democrats of America - End Wars and Occupations To: Stuart Levy The Many Wars of Syria with Phyllis Bennis Wednesday, September 14, 2016 9:00pm Eastern, 8:00pm Central, 7:00pm Mountain, 6:00pm Pacific 605-562-3140 PIN: 952870# Let's start out the fall with a new commitment to follow more closely the carnage in Syria. Is it a civil war? Is it a proxy war between the nuclear powers ? Is it also a proxy war between Middle Eastern governments? Can ISIS be reined in? Should Assad go? Or stay? What is the USA doing as an actor in the situation? We as anti-war activists should be constantly questioning that. What about congressional moves to demand a new AUMF? Is that wise? Syria2.jpg What would diplomacy look like in such a complex set of wars? What are solutions that the US Peace Movement could be pushing? For one, we should be extending the good efforts against arms sales to Saudi Arabia -- always promoting the goal of a Weapons-of-Mass-Destruction Free Zone in the Middle East (and why stop there?). We in the Peace Movement have a deep belief that the American invasion of Iraq started this whole change of events. Syrian Immigrants (as well as those from North Africa) are changing the population map of both the Middle East and Europe. Why is the US taking in so few of those who are fleeing? What is our responsibility as advocates for peace to those who flee from war and violence? What do the American people know of all this? Once again our mass media has let us all down. What kind of educational campaign can we launch to quicken the sensibilities of the good folk of the United States? What about the belief in America as a moral force in the world? So many opportunities for America to shine get lost as our treasure goes to "solving" problems with military might. Instead of the greed and corruption fomented by corporations -- particularly in the military-industrial area -- American ingenuity and trillion dollar investment could dig in with creative answers to climate change. We could lead the world in public education that serves every child in our very diverse democracy. The biggest challenge of all is to address the burgeoning gaps between rich and poor both in this country and across the globe because until that changes, perpetual wars continue. Let's keep dreaming of a peaceful world and acting to make it so. *Sponsors*: UFPJ, PDA, Code Pink *Moderator*: Jackie Cabasso, UFPJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PhyllisBennis.jpgPhyllis Bennis is a Fellow of the Institute for Policy Studies, where she directs the New Internationalism project working to change US policy in the broader Middle East. She was a co-founder of both the US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation and United for Peace and Justice coalitions, and continues work with both the US and global anti-war movements. Her most recent books include */Understanding the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict/*, and */Understanding ISIS & the New Global War on Terror: A Primer/*. 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References: <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493@mail.yahoo.com> Sure is quiet on this site ...???Let's see...AWARE Antiwar, Anti racist?Maybe we need some comments on anti-racism.How about some Critical Theory.... Maybe a little Horkheimer and Markuse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 15 14:27:45 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? In-Reply-To: <1572df785d1-6069-42c8@webprd-m18.mail.aol.com> References: <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493@mail.yahoo.com> <1572df785d1-6069-42c8@webprd-m18.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <722267114.273879.1473949665654@mail.yahoo.com> When I get messages like this it just confirms that I'm getting my message across.I'm attempting, like (Donald Trump, who I'm no fan of) to expose the LIES and DECEIT by our government and its leaders.He is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times.Jewish banksters (major bulge bracket banks) were fined over $100 billion dollars for the 2008 housing fraud crisis and not one of them went to jail. By not admitting wrong-doing in the legal proceedings, the fines became tax write-offs that the American people have to pay for. We just signed a $38 billion foreign aid bill to Israel. GET MY POINT!Jill Stein just declared that 9/11 should be reinvestigated. Zionists did 9/11. I'm going to vote for her.  She will do something about our corrupt Israeli-controlled, bribed, blackmailed government.If you don't like me...organize an effort to get me kicked off this group.  It would only happen because of Jewish power not because I broke any rule governing this group.http://forward.com/the-assimilator/131574/jews-dominate-forbes-rich-list/ On Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:09 AM, Mildred O'brien wrote: How about YOU keeping quiet for a while mo'b -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss To: Peace-discuss List Cc: Stephen Francis Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 10:29 am Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? Sure is quiet on this site ...???Let's see...AWARE Antiwar, Anti racist?Maybe we need some comments on anti-racism.How about some Critical Theory.... Maybe a little Horkheimer and Markuse_______________________________________________Peace-discuss mailing listPeace-discuss at lists.chambana.nethttps://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Thu Sep 15 14:44:55 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 09:44:55 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? In-Reply-To: <722267114.273879.1473949665654@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493@mail.yahoo.com> <1572df785d1-6069-42c8@webprd-m18.mail.aol.com> <722267114.273879.1473949665654@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00c501d20f5f$b9f42260$2ddc6720$@comcast.net> Hey Stephen, I heard that the sinking of the Titanic was a Jewish plot. You know, Iceberg, Goldberg, what’s the difference ? David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:28 AM To: Mildred O'brien; Peace-discuss List Cc: Stephen Francis Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? When I get messages like this it just confirms that I'm getting my message across. I'm attempting, like (Donald Trump, who I'm no fan of) to expose the LIES and DECEIT by our government and its leaders. He is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times. Jewish banksters (major bulge bracket banks) were fined over $100 billion dollars for the 2008 housing fraud crisis and not one of them went to jail. By not admitting wrong-doing in the legal proceedings, the fines became tax write-offs that the American people have to pay for. We just signed a $38 billion foreign aid bill to Israel. GET MY POINT! Jill Stein just declared that 9/11 should be reinvestigated. Zionists did 9/11. I'm going to vote for her. She will do something about our corrupt Israeli-controlled, bribed, blackmailed government. If you don't like me...organize an effort to get me kicked off this group. It would only happen because of Jewish power not because I broke any rule governing this group. http://forward.com/the-assimilator/131574/jews-dominate-forbes-rich-list/ On Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:09 AM, Mildred O'brien wrote: How about YOU keeping quiet for a while mo'b -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss To: Peace-discuss List Cc: Stephen Francis Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 10:29 am Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? Sure is quiet on this site ...??? Let's see... AWARE Antiwar, Anti racist? Maybe we need some comments on anti-racism. How about some Critical Theory.... Maybe a little Horkheimer and Markuse _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:44 AM, David Johnson wrote: #yiv3818633160 #yiv3818633160 -- _filtered #yiv3818633160 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv3818633160 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv3818633160 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv3818633160 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} _filtered #yiv3818633160 {font-family:Verdana;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv3818633160 #yiv3818633160 p.yiv3818633160MsoNormal, #yiv3818633160 li.yiv3818633160MsoNormal, #yiv3818633160 div.yiv3818633160MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv3818633160 a:link, #yiv3818633160 span.yiv3818633160MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv3818633160 a:visited, #yiv3818633160 span.yiv3818633160MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv3818633160 p.yiv3818633160MsoAcetate, #yiv3818633160 li.yiv3818633160MsoAcetate, #yiv3818633160 div.yiv3818633160MsoAcetate {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;}#yiv3818633160 span.yiv3818633160EmailStyle17 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv3818633160 span.yiv3818633160BalloonTextChar {}#yiv3818633160 .yiv3818633160MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv3818633160 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv3818633160 div.yiv3818633160WordSection1 {}#yiv3818633160 Hey Stephen,  I heard that the sinking of the Titanic was a Jewish plot.  You know, Iceberg, Goldberg, what’s the difference ?  David J.    From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:28 AM To: Mildred O'brien; Peace-discuss List Cc: Stephen Francis Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet?  When I get messages like this it just confirms that I'm getting my message across.I'm attempting, like (Donald Trump, who I'm no fan of) to expose the LIES and DECEIT by our government and its leaders.He is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times.Jewish banksters (major bulge bracket banks) were fined over $100 billion dollars for the 2008 housing fraud crisis and not one of them went to jail. By not admitting wrong-doing in the legal proceedings, the fines became tax write-offs that the American people have to pay for. We just signed a $38 billion foreign aid bill to Israel. GET MY POINT!Jill Stein just declared that 9/11 should be reinvestigated. Zionists did 9/11. I'm going to vote for her.  She will do something about our corrupt Israeli-controlled, bribed, blackmailed government.If you don't like me...organize an effort to get me kicked off this group.  It would only happen because of Jewish power not because I broke any rule governing this group.http://forward.com/the-assimilator/131574/jews-dominate-forbes-rich-list/  On Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:09 AM, Mildred O'brien wrote:  How about YOU keeping quiet for a while mo'b -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss To: Peace-discuss List Cc: Stephen Francis Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 10:29 am Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet?Sure is quiet on this site ...???Let's see...AWARE Antiwar, Anti racist?Maybe we need some comments on anti-racism.How about some Critical Theory.... Maybe a little Horkheimer and Markuse_______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss   -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Sep 15 14:56:53 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:56:53 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? In-Reply-To: <637242607.324200.1473951103054@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493@mail.yahoo.com> <1572df785d1-6069-42c8@webprd-m18.mail.aol.com> <722267114.273879.1473949665654@mail.yahoo.com> <00c501d20f5f$b9f42260$2ddc6720$@comcast.net> <637242607.324200.1473951103054@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Stephen is so full of it, all one can do is LOL, which is really sad given the really serious issues humanity is facing, and this peace list is meant to address, not his nonsense . On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:51, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: Instead of BS, prove to me with facts and figures that Jews have NOT controlled banking/finance for millennia. I'm not supposed to say these...keep my mouth shut... I know that I'm risking harm by doing this. On Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:44 AM, David Johnson > wrote: Hey Stephen, I heard that the sinking of the Titanic was a Jewish plot. You know, Iceberg, Goldberg, what’s the difference ? David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:28 AM To: Mildred O'brien; Peace-discuss List Cc: Stephen Francis Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? When I get messages like this it just confirms that I'm getting my message across. I'm attempting, like (Donald Trump, who I'm no fan of) to expose the LIES and DECEIT by our government and its leaders. He is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times. Jewish banksters (major bulge bracket banks) were fined over $100 billion dollars for the 2008 housing fraud crisis and not one of them went to jail. By not admitting wrong-doing in the legal proceedings, the fines became tax write-offs that the American people have to pay for. We just signed a $38 billion foreign aid bill to Israel. GET MY POINT! Jill Stein just declared that 9/11 should be reinvestigated. Zionists did 9/11. I'm going to vote for her. She will do something about our corrupt Israeli-controlled, bribed, blackmailed government. If you don't like me...organize an effort to get me kicked off this group. It would only happen because of Jewish power not because I broke any rule governing this group. http://forward.com/the-assimilator/131574/jews-dominate-forbes-rich-list/ On Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:09 AM, Mildred O'brien > wrote: How about YOU keeping quiet for a while mo'b -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > To: Peace-discuss List > Cc: Stephen Francis > Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 10:29 am Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? Sure is quiet on this site ...??? Let's see... AWARE Antiwar, Anti racist? Maybe we need some comments on anti-racism. How about some Critical Theory.... Maybe a little Horkheimer and Markuse _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Thu Sep 15 16:09:45 2016 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 11:09:45 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? In-Reply-To: References: <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493@mail.yahoo.com> <1572df785d1-6069-42c8@webprd-m18.mail.aol.com> <722267114.273879.1473949665654@mail.yahoo.com> <00c501d20f5f$b9f42260$2ddc6720$@comcast.net> <637242607.324200.1473951103054@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Stephen’s arguments should not be dismissed out of hand, not because they are plausible, but because some people follow them. They are not impossible - a square circle is impossible - just highly improbable, like David Icke’s shape-shifting lizards. They are arguments that need to be countered with accurate analyses of current politics and war - and the current political establishment is even more opposed to that. The founders of AWARE were right to connect war and racism, not because the US government’s wars arise from racism (as perhaps identity politics would have us believe), but because US wars generate racism, as in the perhaps misnamed Islamophobia. (As the estimable B. Fields puts it in regard to a related matter, "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco”!) From Thomas Pynchon’s immortal Proverbs for Paranoids (in his novel Gravity’s Rainbow): “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers” - they, being the ruling class, and the wrong questions being about Jews rather than the 1%. August Bebel (1840-1913) applied that principle to Stephen’s assertions more than a century ago, when he observed, “Antisemitism is the socialism of fools.” He meant that contemporary Europeans knew that there was something profoundly wrong and inhuman about capitalism, but misidentified who was responsible for it - the Jewish shopkeeper rather than the owners of the means of production. (How that came about is illuminated by an unjustly ignored book, Israel Shahak’s "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years" [1994].) But (as we often say on News from Neptune), no one can be wrong all the time. Stephen is right when he says “Donald Trump … is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times” (and that’s the real source of the appeal which may make Trump president). Stephen there is not babbling but perhaps Bebeling… (sorry). —CGE > On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Stephen is so full of it, all one can do is LOL, which is really sad given the really serious issues humanity is facing, and this peace list is meant to address, not his nonsense > > . >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:51, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Instead of BS, prove to me with facts and figures that Jews have NOT controlled banking/finance for millennia. >> I'm not supposed to say these...keep my mouth shut... >> I know that I'm risking harm by doing this. >> >> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:44 AM, David Johnson wrote: >> >> >> Hey Stephen, >> >> I heard that the sinking of the Titanic was a Jewish plot. >> >> You know, Iceberg, Goldberg, what’s the difference ? >> >> David J. >> >> >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:28 AM >> To: Mildred O'brien; Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Stephen Francis >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >> >> When I get messages like this it just confirms that I'm getting my message across. >> I'm attempting, like (Donald Trump, who I'm no fan of) to expose the LIES and DECEIT by our government and its leaders. >> He is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times. >> Jewish banksters (major bulge bracket banks) were fined over $100 billion dollars for the 2008 housing fraud >> crisis and not one of them went to jail. By not admitting wrong-doing in the legal proceedings, the fines became tax write-offs that the American people have to pay for. We just signed a $38 billion foreign aid bill to Israel. GET MY POINT! >> Jill Stein just declared that 9/11 should be reinvestigated. Zionists did 9/11. I'm going to vote for her. She will do something about our corrupt Israeli-controlled, bribed, blackmailed government. >> If you don't like me...organize an effort to get me kicked off this group. It would only happen because of Jewish power not because I broke any rule governing this group. >> http://forward.com/the-assimilator/131574/jews-dominate-forbes-rich-list/ >> >> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:09 AM, Mildred O'brien wrote: >> >> How about YOU keeping quiet for a while >> >> mo'b >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss >> To: Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Stephen Francis >> Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 10:29 am >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >> Sure is quiet on this site ...??? >> Let's see... >> AWARE Antiwar, Anti racist? >> Maybe we need some comments on anti-racism. >> How about some Critical Theory.... >> Maybe a little Horkheimer and Markuse >> _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 15 17:27:40 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 17:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? In-Reply-To: References: <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493@mail.yahoo.com> <1572df785d1-6069-42c8@webprd-m18.mail.aol.com> <722267114.273879.1473949665654@mail.yahoo.com> <00c501d20f5f$b9f42260$2ddc6720$@comcast.net> <637242607.324200.1473951103054@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1844405340.399325.1473960460498@mail.yahoo.com> As per CGE: "Antisemitism is the socialism of fools"Was Martin Luther a fool?If I'm not mistaken, in his book 'On the Jews and Their Lies' circa 1543, Martin Luther is decrying the attempt by Jews to monopolize the virtues of circumcision before the eyes of God...Luther: "Why then do the Jews lie so shamefully before God in their prayer and preaching, asthough circumcision were theirs alone, through which they were set apart from all other nationsand thus they alone are God's holy people?" Socialism and Zionism are not unlikely partners.... given the history of Israel... and the ring of antiSemitism has always been a form of protection that this group needs to surround their identity. It's group-think instead of individuality expressed. Socialism ultimately is the abandonment of individuality for the collective leader's dictates. A primitive form of socialism must have been forming even in Luther's day. Evidently in 1543, the Jews were able to, through considerable means, convey their power, to the consternation of Luther, through this discourse on circumcision given that this discourse was available to them, where racism was not. On Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:09 PM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: Stephen’s arguments should not be dismissed out of hand, not because they are plausible, but because some people follow them. They are not impossible - a square circle is impossible - just highly improbable, like David Icke’s shape-shifting lizards. They are arguments that need to be countered with accurate analyses of current politics and war - and the current political establishment is even more opposed to that. The founders of AWARE were right to connect war and racism, not because the US government’s wars arise from racism (as perhaps identity politics would have us believe), but because US wars generate racism, as in the perhaps misnamed Islamophobia. (As the estimable B. Fields puts it in regard to a related matter, "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco”!) >From Thomas Pynchon’s immortal Proverbs for Paranoids (in his novel Gravity’s Rainbow): “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers” - they, being the ruling class, and the wrong questions being about Jews rather than the 1%. August Bebel (1840-1913) applied that principle to Stephen’s assertions more than a century ago, when he observed, “Antisemitism is the socialism of fools.” He meant that contemporary Europeans knew that there was something profoundly wrong and inhuman about capitalism, but misidentified who was responsible for it - the Jewish shopkeeper rather than the owners of the means of production. (How that came about is illuminated by an unjustly ignored book, Israel Shahak’s "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years" [1994].) But (as we often say on News from Neptune), no one can be wrong all the time. Stephen is right when he says “Donald Trump … is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times” (and that’s the real source of the appeal which may make Trump president). Stephen there is not babbling but perhaps Bebeling… (sorry). —CGE   > On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > >  Stephen is so full of it, all one can do is LOL, which is really sad given the really serious issues humanity is facing, and this peace list is meant to address, not his nonsense > > . >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:51, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Instead of BS, prove to me with facts and figures that Jews have NOT controlled banking/finance for millennia. >> I'm not supposed to say these...keep my mouth shut... >> I know that I'm risking harm by doing this. >> >> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:44 AM, David Johnson wrote: >> >> >> Hey Stephen, >>  >> I heard that the sinking of the Titanic was a Jewish plot. >>  >> You know, Iceberg, Goldberg, what’s the difference ? >>  >> David J. >>  >>  >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:28 AM >> To: Mildred O'brien; Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Stephen Francis >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >>  >> When I get messages like this it just confirms that I'm getting my message across. >> I'm attempting, like (Donald Trump, who I'm no fan of) to expose the LIES and DECEIT by our government and its leaders. >> He is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times. >> Jewish banksters (major bulge bracket banks) were fined over $100 billion dollars for the 2008 housing fraud >> crisis and not one of them went to jail. By not admitting wrong-doing in the legal proceedings, the fines became tax write-offs that the American people have to pay for. We just signed a $38 billion foreign aid bill to Israel. GET MY POINT! >> Jill Stein just declared that 9/11 should be reinvestigated. Zionists did 9/11. I'm going to vote for her.  She will do something about our corrupt Israeli-controlled, bribed, blackmailed government. >> If you don't like me...organize an effort to get me kicked off this group.  It would only happen because of Jewish power not because I broke any rule governing this group. >> http://forward.com/the-assimilator/131574/jews-dominate-forbes-rich-list/ >> >>  >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:09 AM, Mildred O'brien wrote: >>  >> How about YOU keeping quiet for a while >> >> mo'b >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss >> To: Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Stephen Francis >> Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 10:29 am >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >> Sure is quiet on this site ...??? >> Let's see... >> AWARE Antiwar, Anti racist? >> Maybe we need some comments on anti-racism. >> How about some Critical Theory.... >> Maybe a little Horkheimer and Markuse >> _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >>  >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Thu Sep 15 18:38:31 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:31 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? In-Reply-To: <1844405340.399325.1473960460498@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493@mail.yahoo.com> <1572df785d1-6069-42c8@webprd-m18.mail.aol.com> <722267114.273879.1473949665654@mail.yahoo.com> <00c501d20f5f$b9f42260$2ddc6720$@comcast.net> <637242607.324200.1473951103054@mail.yahoo.com> <1844405340.399325.1473960460498@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <013d01d20f80$5c11d9f0$14358dd0$@comcast.net> You are not only ignorant of history but you have no clue what Socialism really is ! Socialism pure and simple is economic and political democracy. The rule of the 99% NOT the 1%. The 1% is comprised of JEWISH AND GENTILE, HINDU AND MUSLIM people , just like the 99 %. The Russian revolution was NOT caused by a “ Zionist plot “ it was the desperation of hundreds of millions of people in horrible poverty, war and repression that caused it. It did not turn out well of course, because of many factors, which was not unique for revolutions in general. But Zionism was NOT even in the equation in that regard. The word “ Socialism “ like the word “ Christianity “ has been claimed by numerous monsters and opportunists throughout history. From Hitler to Stalin and Lenin, from the Spanish Inquisition and the evil Oliver Cromwell to Jerry Fallwell. Instead of focusing on ; the capitalist class , Zionism, or the policies of the Israeli and U.S. governments, you are making negative generalizations against an entire ethnic group of people. THAT IS RACISM ! Your good at parroting racist right-wing pro-capitalist propaganda, and that is about it ! Now go away ! Nobody wants to read your vile ; racist, anti-Semitic, pro-capitalist bullshit, nor your fucked up analysis ( ignorance ) of history. If I had the ability I would block you from posting to this list. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:28 PM To: Carl G. Estabrook; Karen Aram Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? As per CGE: "Antisemitism is the socialism of fools" Was Martin Luther a fool? If I'm not mistaken, in his book 'On the Jews and Their Lies' circa 1543, Martin Luther is decrying the attempt by Jews to monopolize the virtues of circumcision before the eyes of God... Luther: "Why then do the Jews lie so shamefully before God in their prayer and preaching, as though circumcision were theirs alone, through which they were set apart from all other nations and thus they alone are God's holy people?" Socialism and Zionism are not unlikely partners.... given the history of Israel... and the ring of antiSemitism has always been a form of protection that this group needs to surround their identity. It's group-think instead of individuality expressed. Socialism ultimately is the abandonment of individuality for the collective leader's dictates. A primitive form of socialism must have been forming even in Luther's day. Evidently in 1543, the Jews were able to, through considerable means, convey their power, to the consternation of Luther, through this discourse on circumcision given that this discourse was available to them, where racism was not. Description: Image removed by sender. luther On Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:09 PM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: Stephen’s arguments should not be dismissed out of hand, not because they are plausible, but because some people follow them. They are not impossible - a square circle is impossible - just highly improbable, like David Icke’s shape-shifting lizards. They are arguments that need to be countered with accurate analyses of current politics and war - and the current political establishment is even more opposed to that. The founders of AWARE were right to connect war and racism, not because the US government’s wars arise from racism (as perhaps identity politics would have us believe), but because US wars generate racism, as in the perhaps misnamed Islamophobia. (As the estimable B. Fields puts it in regard to a related matter, "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco”!) >From Thomas Pynchon’s immortal Proverbs for Paranoids (in his novel Gravity’s Rainbow): “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers” - they, being the ruling class, and the wrong questions being about Jews rather than the 1%. August Bebel (1840-1913) applied that principle to Stephen’s assertions more than a century ago, when he observed, “Antisemitism is the socialism of fools.” He meant that contemporary Europeans knew that there was something profoundly wrong and inhuman about capitalism, but misidentified who was responsible for it - the Jewish shopkeeper rather than the owners of the means of production. (How that came about is illuminated by an unjustly ignored book, Israel Shahak’s "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years" [1994].) But (as we often say on News from Neptune), no one can be wrong all the time. Stephen is right when he says “Donald Trump … is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times” (and that’s the real source of the appeal which may make Trump president). Stephen there is not babbling but perhaps Bebeling… (sorry). —CGE > On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Stephen is so full of it, all one can do is LOL, which is really sad given the really serious issues humanity is facing, and this peace list is meant to address, not his nonsense > > . >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:51, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Instead of BS, prove to me with facts and figures that Jews have NOT controlled banking/finance for millennia. >> I'm not supposed to say these...keep my mouth shut... >> I know that I'm risking harm by doing this. >> >> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:44 AM, David Johnson wrote: >> >> >> Hey Stephen, >> >> I heard that the sinking of the Titanic was a Jewish plot. >> >> You know, Iceberg, Goldberg, what’s the difference ? >> >> David J. >> >> >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:28 AM >> To: Mildred O'brien; Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Stephen Francis >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >> >> When I get messages like this it just confirms that I'm getting my message across. >> I'm attempting, like (Donald Trump, who I'm no fan of) to expose the LIES and DECEIT by our government and its leaders. >> He is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times. >> Jewish banksters (major bulge bracket banks) were fined over $100 billion dollars for the 2008 housing fraud >> crisis and not one of them went to jail. By not admitting wrong-doing in the legal proceedings, the fines became tax write-offs that the American people have to pay for. We just signed a $38 billion foreign aid bill to Israel. GET MY POINT! >> Jill Stein just declared that 9/11 should be reinvestigated. Zionists did 9/11. I'm going to vote for her. She will do something about our corrupt Israeli-controlled, bribed, blackmailed government. >> If you don't like me...organize an effort to get me kicked off this group. It would only happen because of Jewish power not because I broke any rule governing this group. >> http://forward.com/the-assimilator/131574/jews-dominate-forbes-rich-list/ >> >> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:09 AM, Mildred O'brien wrote: >> >> How about YOU keeping quiet for a while >> >> mo'b >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss >> To: Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Stephen Francis >> Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 10:29 am >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >> Sure is quiet on this site ...??? >> Let's see... >> AWARE Antiwar, Anti racist? >> Maybe we need some comments on anti-racism. >> How about some Critical Theory.... >> Maybe a little Horkheimer and Markuse >> _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <1844405340.399325.1473960460498@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493@mail.yahoo.com> <1572df785d1-6069-42c8@webprd-m18.mail.aol.com> <722267114.273879.1473949665654@mail.yahoo.com> <00c501d20f5f$b9f42260$2ddc6720$@comcast.net> <637242607.324200.1473951103054@mail.yahoo.com> <1844405340.399325.1473960460498@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <766692EB-E372-4935-82FD-C3AFE5645F8B@illinois.edu> You offer a Cold War caricature of socialism (now curiously back in fashion, in the mad Clinton campaign, to demonize Putin - and Trump), but Luther wasn’t any sort of socialist - although his contemporary, Thomas More could be considered one. In “Utopia" [1516], More wrote, “...when I consider any social system that prevails in the modern world, I can’t, so help me God, see it as anything but a conspiracy of the rich to advance their own interests under the pretext of organizing society. They think up all sorts of tricks and dodges, first for keeping safe their ill-gotten gains, and then for exploiting the poor by buying their labour as cheaply as possible. Once the rich have decided that these tricks and dodges shall be officially recognized by society – which includes the poor as well as the rich – they acquire the force of law. Thus an unscrupulous minority is led by its insatiable greed to monopolize what would have been enough to supply the needs of the whole population…" As for the rest, as a Catholic I shouldn’t judge Luther’s foolishness (especially with a major Luther anniversary looming), but I do note that his own last written words were, “Wir sind Bettler, das ist wahr” - "We are beggars, that is true." 'Bettler’ come from a root meaning 'to plead,' which might be taken as the pleading of fools… There’s no doubt Luther was an antisemite; he also plead with the feudality of Germany (in "Against the Robbing and Murdering Hordes of Peasants," 1525) to “...let everyone who can, smite, slay and stab, secretly or openly, remembering that nothing can be more poisonous, hurtful or devilish than a rebel. It is just as when one must kill a mad dog; if you do not strike him, he will strike you, and a whole land with you.” In his poem on the outbreak of the Second World War, W. H. Auden wrote, "Accurate scholarship can Unearth the whole offence From Luther until now That has driven a culture mad, Find what occurred at Linz, What huge imago made A psychopathic god: I and the public know What all schoolchildren learn, Those to whom evil is done Do evil in return." ‘Foolishness,’ at least in English, seems too weak for the evil bound up with antisemitism. —CGE > On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:27 PM, Stephen Francis wrote: > > As per CGE: "Antisemitism is the socialism of fools" > Was Martin Luther a fool? > If I'm not mistaken, in his book 'On the Jews and Their Lies' circa 1543, Martin Luther is decrying the attempt by Jews to monopolize the virtues of circumcision before the eyes of God... > Luther: "Why then do the Jews lie so shamefully before God in their prayer and preaching, as though circumcision were theirs alone, through which they were set apart from all other nations and thus they alone are God's holy people?" > > Socialism and Zionism are not unlikely partners.... given the history of Israel... and the ring of antiSemitism has always been a form of protection that this group needs to surround their identity. It's group-think instead of individuality expressed. > > Socialism ultimately is the abandonment of individuality for the collective leader's dictates. A primitive form of socialism must have been forming even in Luther's day. > > Evidently in 1543, the Jews were able to, through considerable means, convey their power, to the consternation of Luther, through this discourse on circumcision given that this discourse was available to them, where racism was not. > > > > On Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:09 PM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: > > > Stephen’s arguments should not be dismissed out of hand, not because they are plausible, but because some people follow them. > > They are not impossible - a square circle is impossible - just highly improbable, like David Icke’s shape-shifting lizards. > > They are arguments that need to be countered with accurate analyses of current politics and war - and the current political establishment is even more opposed to that. > > The founders of AWARE were right to connect war and racism, not because the US government’s wars arise from racism (as perhaps identity politics would have us believe), but because US wars generate racism, as in the perhaps misnamed Islamophobia. (As the estimable B. Fields puts it in regard to a related matter, "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco”!) > > From Thomas Pynchon’s immortal Proverbs for Paranoids (in his novel Gravity’s Rainbow): “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers” - they, being the ruling class, and the wrong questions being about Jews rather than the 1%. > > August Bebel (1840-1913) applied that principle to Stephen’s assertions more than a century ago, when he observed, “Antisemitism is the socialism of fools.” He meant that contemporary Europeans knew that there was something profoundly wrong and inhuman about capitalism, but misidentified who was responsible for it - the Jewish shopkeeper rather than the owners of the means of production. (How that came about is illuminated by an unjustly ignored book, Israel Shahak’s "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years" [1994].) > > But (as we often say on News from Neptune), no one can be wrong all the time. Stephen is right when he says “Donald Trump … is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times” (and that’s the real source of the appeal which may make Trump president). Stephen there is not babbling but perhaps Bebeling… (sorry). > > —CGE > > > On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > > Stephen is so full of it, all one can do is LOL, which is really sad given the really serious issues humanity is facing, and this peace list is meant to address, not his nonsense > > > > . > >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:51, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: > >> > >> Instead of BS, prove to me with facts and figures that Jews have NOT controlled banking/finance for millennia. > >> I'm not supposed to say these...keep my mouth shut... > >> I know that I'm risking harm by doing this. > >> > >> > >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:44 AM, David Johnson wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hey Stephen, > >> > >> I heard that the sinking of the Titanic was a Jewish plot. > >> > >> You know, Iceberg, Goldberg, what’s the difference ? > >> > >> David J. > >> > >> > >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:28 AM > >> To: Mildred O'brien; Peace-discuss List > >> Cc: Stephen Francis > >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? > >> > >> When I get messages like this it just confirms that I'm getting my message across. > >> I'm attempting, like (Donald Trump, who I'm no fan of) to expose the LIES and DECEIT by our government and its leaders. > >> He is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times. > >> Jewish banksters (major bulge bracket banks) were fined over $100 billion dollars for the 2008 housing fraud > >> crisis and not one of them went to jail. By not admitting wrong-doing in the legal proceedings, the fines became tax write-offs that the American people have to pay for. We just signed a $38 billion foreign aid bill to Israel. GET MY POINT! > >> Jill Stein just declared that 9/11 should be reinvestigated. Zionists did 9/11. I'm going to vote for her. She will do something about our corrupt Israeli-controlled, bribed, blackmailed government. > >> If you don't like me...organize an effort to get me kicked off this group. It would only happen because of Jewish power not because I broke any rule governing this group. > >> http://forward.com/the-assimilator/131574/jews-dominate-forbes-rich-list/ > >> > >> > >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:09 AM, Mildred O'brien wrote: > >> > >> How about YOU keeping quiet for a while > >> > >> mo'b > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > >> To: Peace-discuss List > >> Cc: Stephen Francis > >> Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 10:29 am > >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? > >> Sure is quiet on this site ...??? > >> Let's see... > >> AWARE Antiwar, Anti racist? > >> Maybe we need some comments on anti-racism. > >> How about some Critical Theory.... > >> Maybe a little Horkheimer and Markuse > >> _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > >> > >> > >> From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 15 19:27:02 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:27:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 106 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1424985584.513536.1473967622975@mail.yahoo.com> There is a rather entertaining microcosm here that parallels the national elections.I never dreamed that I would be defending white nationalists...(who abhor neoNazis) as a California hippy war protester.But the study of Cultural Marxism has led me on that path.Trump's reference (possibly unbeknownst to him and the public, and its link to Cultural Marxism) to political correctness is very important and has struck a national note.The Zionist national press has pummeled him with accusations of racism for months only to make him stronger.  They don't know whether to poop or fly. Cultural Marxism predicts this behavior.But in doing so, they (Zionists) have exposed their flanks and told us their real motives and agenda, and it's not fair reporting... it's to maintain Zionist power in the US/Democrats/HRC/Obama.AWARE, by marginalizing my arguments is just like the MSM pummeling Trump. It's a Zionist / Jewish organization parading as an antiwar group with varying degrees of compliance with the above.When I created the Occupy Champaign/Urbana Facebook page, the same thing happened.  It was infiltrated and subverted by Jewish influencers...who completely rendered it impotent.Most in the group don't even know the process. On Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:38 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Quiet? (David Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:31 -0500 From: "David Johnson" To: "'Stephen Francis'" ,     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? Message-ID: <013d01d20f80$5c11d9f0$14358dd0$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" You are not only ignorant of history but you have no clue what Socialism really is ! Socialism pure and simple is economic and political democracy. The rule of the 99% NOT the 1%. The 1% is comprised of JEWISH AND GENTILE, HINDU AND MUSLIM people , just like the 99 %. The Russian revolution was NOT caused by a “ Zionist plot “ it was the desperation of hundreds of millions of people in horrible poverty, war and repression that caused it. It did not turn out well of course, because of many factors, which was not unique for revolutions in general. But Zionism was NOT even in the equation in that regard. The word “ Socialism “ like the word “ Christianity “ has been claimed by numerous monsters and opportunists throughout history. From Hitler to Stalin and Lenin, from the Spanish Inquisition and the evil Oliver Cromwell to Jerry Fallwell. Instead of focusing on ; the capitalist class , Zionism, or the policies of the Israeli and U.S. governments, you are making negative generalizations against an entire ethnic group of people. THAT IS RACISM ! Your good at parroting racist right-wing pro-capitalist propaganda, and that is about it ! Now go away ! Nobody wants to read your vile ; racist, anti-Semitic, pro-capitalist bullshit, nor your fucked up analysis ( ignorance ) of history. If I had the ability I would block you from posting to this list. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:28 PM To: Carl G. Estabrook; Karen Aram Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? As per CGE: "Antisemitism is the socialism of fools" Was Martin Luther a fool? If I'm not mistaken, in his book 'On the Jews and Their Lies' circa 1543, Martin Luther is decrying the attempt by Jews to monopolize the virtues of circumcision before the eyes of God... Luther: "Why then do the Jews lie so shamefully before God in their prayer and preaching, as though circumcision were theirs alone, through which they were set apart from all other nations and thus they alone are God's holy people?" Socialism and Zionism are not unlikely partners.... given the history of Israel... and the ring of antiSemitism has always been a form of protection that this group needs to surround their identity. It's group-think instead of individuality expressed. Socialism ultimately is the abandonment of individuality for the collective leader's dictates. A primitive form of socialism must have been forming even in Luther's day. Evidently in 1543, the Jews were able to, through considerable means, convey their power, to the consternation of Luther, through this discourse on circumcision given that this discourse was available to them, where racism was not. Description: Image removed by sender. luther On Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:09 PM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: Stephen’s arguments should not be dismissed out of hand, not because they are plausible, but because some people follow them. They are not impossible - a square circle is impossible - just highly improbable, like David Icke’s shape-shifting lizards. They are arguments that need to be countered with accurate analyses of current politics and war - and the current political establishment is even more opposed to that. The founders of AWARE were right to connect war and racism, not because the US government’s wars arise from racism (as perhaps identity politics would have us believe), but because US wars generate racism, as in the perhaps misnamed Islamophobia. (As the estimable B. Fields puts it in regard to a related matter, "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco”!) >From Thomas Pynchon’s immortal Proverbs for Paranoids (in his novel Gravity’s Rainbow): “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers” - they, being the ruling class, and the wrong questions being about Jews rather than the 1%. August Bebel (1840-1913) applied that principle to Stephen’s assertions more than a century ago, when he observed, “Antisemitism is the socialism of fools.” He meant that contemporary Europeans knew that there was something profoundly wrong and inhuman about capitalism, but misidentified who was responsible for it - the Jewish shopkeeper rather than the owners of the means of production. (How that came about is illuminated by an unjustly ignored book, Israel Shahak’s "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years" [1994].) But (as we often say on News from Neptune), no one can be wrong all the time. Stephen is right when he says “Donald Trump … is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times” (and that’s the real source of the appeal which may make Trump president). Stephen there is not babbling but perhaps Bebeling… (sorry). —CGE   > On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > >  Stephen is so full of it, all one can do is LOL, which is really sad given the really serious issues humanity is facing, and this peace list is meant to address, not his nonsense > > . >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:51, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Instead of BS, prove to me with facts and figures that Jews have NOT controlled banking/finance for millennia. >> I'm not supposed to say these...keep my mouth shut... >> I know that I'm risking harm by doing this. >> >> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:44 AM, David Johnson wrote: >> >> >> Hey Stephen, >>  >> I heard that the sinking of the Titanic was a Jewish plot. >>  >> You know, Iceberg, Goldberg, what’s the difference ? >>  >> David J. >>  >>  >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:28 AM >> To: Mildred O'brien; Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Stephen Francis >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >>  >> When I get messages like this it just confirms that I'm getting my message across. >> I'm attempting, like (Donald Trump, who I'm no fan of) to expose the LIES and DECEIT by our government and its leaders. >> He is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times. >> Jewish banksters (major bulge bracket banks) were fined over $100 billion dollars for the 2008 housing fraud >> crisis and not one of them went to jail. By not admitting wrong-doing in the legal proceedings, the fines became tax write-offs that the American people have to pay for. We just signed a $38 billion foreign aid bill to Israel. GET MY POINT! >> Jill Stein just declared that 9/11 should be reinvestigated. Zionists did 9/11. I'm going to vote for her.  She will do something about our corrupt Israeli-controlled, bribed, blackmailed government. >> If you don't like me...organize an effort to get me kicked off this group.  It would only happen because of Jewish power not because I broke any rule governing this group. >> http://forward.com/the-assimilator/131574/jews-dominate-forbes-rich-list/ >> >>  >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:09 AM, Mildred O'brien wrote: >>  >> How about YOU keeping quiet for a while >> >> mo'b >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss >> To: Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Stephen Francis >> Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 10:29 am >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >> Sure is quiet on this site ...??? >> Let's see... >> AWARE Antiwar, Anti racist? >> Maybe we need some comments on anti-racism. >> How about some Critical Theory.... >> Maybe a little Horkheimer and Markuse >> _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >>  >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Sep 15 19:33:45 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:33:45 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 106 In-Reply-To: <1424985584.513536.1473967622975@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1424985584.513536.1473967622975@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Stephen Francis does bring out really good counter, discussion from Carl, and David Johnson, they are both worth reading, so I guess there is a reason for keeping some people on the Peace List. On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:27, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: There is a rather entertaining microcosm here that parallels the national elections. I never dreamed that I would be defending white nationalists...(who abhor neoNazis) as a California hippy war protester. But the study of Cultural Marxism has led me on that path. Trump's reference (possibly unbeknownst to him and the public, and its link to Cultural Marxism) to political correctness is very important and has struck a national note. The Zionist national press has pummeled him with accusations of racism for months only to make him stronger. They don't know whether to poop or fly. Cultural Marxism predicts this behavior. But in doing so, they (Zionists) have exposed their flanks and told us their real motives and agenda, and it's not fair reporting... it's to maintain Zionist power in the US/Democrats/HRC/Obama. AWARE, by marginalizing my arguments is just like the MSM pummeling Trump. It's a Zionist / Jewish organization parading as an antiwar group with varying degrees of compliance with the above. When I created the Occupy Champaign/Urbana Facebook page, the same thing happened. It was infiltrated and subverted by Jewish influencers...who completely rendered it impotent. Most in the group don't even know the process. On Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:38 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" > wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Quiet? (David Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:31 -0500 From: "David Johnson" > To: "'Stephen Francis'" >, > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? Message-ID: <013d01d20f80$5c11d9f0$14358dd0$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" You are not only ignorant of history but you have no clue what Socialism really is ! Socialism pure and simple is economic and political democracy. The rule of the 99% NOT the 1%. The 1% is comprised of JEWISH AND GENTILE, HINDU AND MUSLIM people , just like the 99 %. The Russian revolution was NOT caused by a “ Zionist plot “ it was the desperation of hundreds of millions of people in horrible poverty, war and repression that caused it. It did not turn out well of course, because of many factors, which was not unique for revolutions in general. But Zionism was NOT even in the equation in that regard. The word “ Socialism “ like the word “ Christianity “ has been claimed by numerous monsters and opportunists throughout history. From Hitler to Stalin and Lenin, from the Spanish Inquisition and the evil Oliver Cromwell to Jerry Fallwell. Instead of focusing on ; the capitalist class , Zionism, or the policies of the Israeli and U.S. governments, you are making negative generalizations against an entire ethnic group of people. THAT IS RACISM ! Your good at parroting racist right-wing pro-capitalist propaganda, and that is about it ! Now go away ! Nobody wants to read your vile ; racist, anti-Semitic, pro-capitalist bullshit, nor your fucked up analysis ( ignorance ) of history. If I had the ability I would block you from posting to this list. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:28 PM To: Carl G. Estabrook; Karen Aram Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? As per CGE: "Antisemitism is the socialism of fools" Was Martin Luther a fool? If I'm not mistaken, in his book 'On the Jews and Their Lies' circa 1543, Martin Luther is decrying the attempt by Jews to monopolize the virtues of circumcision before the eyes of God... Luther: "Why then do the Jews lie so shamefully before God in their prayer and preaching, as though circumcision were theirs alone, through which they were set apart from all other nations and thus they alone are God's holy people?" Socialism and Zionism are not unlikely partners.... given the history of Israel... and the ring of antiSemitism has always been a form of protection that this group needs to surround their identity. It's group-think instead of individuality expressed. Socialism ultimately is the abandonment of individuality for the collective leader's dictates. A primitive form of socialism must have been forming even in Luther's day. Evidently in 1543, the Jews were able to, through considerable means, convey their power, to the consternation of Luther, through this discourse on circumcision given that this discourse was available to them, where racism was not. Description: Image removed by sender. luther On Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:09 PM, Carl G. Estabrook > wrote: Stephen’s arguments should not be dismissed out of hand, not because they are plausible, but because some people follow them. They are not impossible - a square circle is impossible - just highly improbable, like David Icke’s shape-shifting lizards. They are arguments that need to be countered with accurate analyses of current politics and war - and the current political establishment is even more opposed to that. The founders of AWARE were right to connect war and racism, not because the US government’s wars arise from racism (as perhaps identity politics would have us believe), but because US wars generate racism, as in the perhaps misnamed Islamophobia. (As the estimable B. Fields puts it in regard to a related matter, "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco”!) >From Thomas Pynchon’s immortal Proverbs for Paranoids (in his novel Gravity’s Rainbow): “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers” - they, being the ruling class, and the wrong questions being about Jews rather than the 1%. August Bebel (1840-1913) applied that principle to Stephen’s assertions more than a century ago, when he observed, “Antisemitism is the socialism of fools.” He meant that contemporary Europeans knew that there was something profoundly wrong and inhuman about capitalism, but misidentified who was responsible for it - the Jewish shopkeeper rather than the owners of the means of production. (How that came about is illuminated by an unjustly ignored book, Israel Shahak’s "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years" [1994].) But (as we often say on News from Neptune), no one can be wrong all the time. Stephen is right when he says “Donald Trump … is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times” (and that’s the real source of the appeal which may make Trump president). Stephen there is not babbling but perhaps Bebeling… (sorry). —CGE > On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: > > Stephen is so full of it, all one can do is LOL, which is really sad given the really serious issues humanity is facing, and this peace list is meant to address, not his nonsense > > . >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:51, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: >> >> Instead of BS, prove to me with facts and figures that Jews have NOT controlled banking/finance for millennia. >> I'm not supposed to say these...keep my mouth shut... >> I know that I'm risking harm by doing this. >> >> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:44 AM, David Johnson > wrote: >> >> >> Hey Stephen, >> >> I heard that the sinking of the Titanic was a Jewish plot. >> >> You know, Iceberg, Goldberg, what’s the difference ? >> >> David J. >> >> >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:28 AM >> To: Mildred O'brien; Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Stephen Francis >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >> >> When I get messages like this it just confirms that I'm getting my message across. >> I'm attempting, like (Donald Trump, who I'm no fan of) to expose the LIES and DECEIT by our government and its leaders. >> He is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times. >> Jewish banksters (major bulge bracket banks) were fined over $100 billion dollars for the 2008 housing fraud >> crisis and not one of them went to jail. By not admitting wrong-doing in the legal proceedings, the fines became tax write-offs that the American people have to pay for. We just signed a $38 billion foreign aid bill to Israel. GET MY POINT! >> Jill Stein just declared that 9/11 should be reinvestigated. Zionists did 9/11. I'm going to vote for her. She will do something about our corrupt Israeli-controlled, bribed, blackmailed government. >> If you don't like me...organize an effort to get me kicked off this group. It would only happen because of Jewish power not because I broke any rule governing this group. >> http://forward.com/the-assimilator/131574/jews-dominate-forbes-rich-list/ >> >> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:09 AM, Mildred O'brien > wrote: >> >> How about YOU keeping quiet for a while >> >> mo'b >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > >> To: Peace-discuss List > >> Cc: Stephen Francis > >> Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 10:29 am >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >> Sure is quiet on this site ...??? >> Let's see... >> AWARE Antiwar, Anti racist? >> Maybe we need some comments on anti-racism. >> How about some Critical Theory.... >> Maybe a little Horkheimer and Markuse >> _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 15 19:43:59 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 108 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38742907.487047.1473968639434@mail.yahoo.com> And if you doubt the influence of Jewish Zionist funded Cultural Marxism in our quaint little setting here in Champaign Urbana, notice the inclusion of Marx (Institute of Social Research, Critical Theory) in this link.... oh and Freud.Unit for Criticism at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign | | | Unit for Criticism at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign | | | I wonder how many white soy bean farmers know about this? On Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:34 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 106 (Karen Aram) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:33:45 +0000 From: Karen Aram To: Stephen Francis Cc: "peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net"     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 106 Message-ID:         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Stephen Francis does bring out really good counter, discussion from Carl, and David Johnson, they are both worth reading, so I guess there is a reason for keeping some people on the Peace List. On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:27, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: There is a rather entertaining microcosm here that parallels the national elections. I never dreamed that I would be defending white nationalists...(who abhor neoNazis) as a California hippy war protester. But the study of Cultural Marxism has led me on that path. Trump's reference (possibly unbeknownst to him and the public, and its link to Cultural Marxism) to political correctness is very important and has struck a national note. The Zionist national press has pummeled him with accusations of racism for months only to make him stronger.  They don't know whether to poop or fly. Cultural Marxism predicts this behavior. But in doing so, they (Zionists) have exposed their flanks and told us their real motives and agenda, and it's not fair reporting... it's to maintain Zionist power in the US/Democrats/HRC/Obama. AWARE, by marginalizing my arguments is just like the MSM pummeling Trump. It's a Zionist / Jewish organization parading as an antiwar group with varying degrees of compliance with the above. When I created the Occupy Champaign/Urbana Facebook page, the same thing happened.  It was infiltrated and subverted by Jewish influencers...who completely rendered it impotent. Most in the group don't even know the process. On Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:38 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" > wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Quiet? (David Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:31 -0500 From: "David Johnson" > To: "'Stephen Francis'" >,     > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? Message-ID: <013d01d20f80$5c11d9f0$14358dd0$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" You are not only ignorant of history but you have no clue what Socialism really is ! Socialism pure and simple is economic and political democracy. The rule of the 99% NOT the 1%. The 1% is comprised of JEWISH AND GENTILE, HINDU AND MUSLIM people , just like the 99 %. The Russian revolution was NOT caused by a “ Zionist plot “ it was the desperation of hundreds of millions of people in horrible poverty, war and repression that caused it. It did not turn out well of course, because of many factors, which was not unique for revolutions in general. But Zionism was NOT even in the equation in that regard. The word “ Socialism “ like the word “ Christianity “ has been claimed by numerous monsters and opportunists throughout history. From Hitler to Stalin and Lenin, from the Spanish Inquisition and the evil Oliver Cromwell to Jerry Fallwell. Instead of focusing on ; the capitalist class , Zionism, or the policies of the Israeli and U.S. governments, you are making negative generalizations against an entire ethnic group of people. THAT IS RACISM ! Your good at parroting racist right-wing pro-capitalist propaganda, and that is about it ! Now go away ! Nobody wants to read your vile ; racist, anti-Semitic, pro-capitalist bullshit, nor your fucked up analysis ( ignorance ) of history. If I had the ability I would block you from posting to this list. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:28 PM To: Carl G. Estabrook; Karen Aram Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? As per CGE: "Antisemitism is the socialism of fools" Was Martin Luther a fool? If I'm not mistaken, in his book 'On the Jews and Their Lies' circa 1543, Martin Luther is decrying the attempt by Jews to monopolize the virtues of circumcision before the eyes of God... Luther: "Why then do the Jews lie so shamefully before God in their prayer and preaching, as though circumcision were theirs alone, through which they were set apart from all other nations and thus they alone are God's holy people?" Socialism and Zionism are not unlikely partners.... given the history of Israel... and the ring of antiSemitism has always been a form of protection that this group needs to surround their identity. It's group-think instead of individuality expressed. Socialism ultimately is the abandonment of individuality for the collective leader's dictates. A primitive form of socialism must have been forming even in Luther's day. Evidently in 1543, the Jews were able to, through considerable means, convey their power, to the consternation of Luther, through this discourse on circumcision given that this discourse was available to them, where racism was not. Description: Image removed by sender. luther On Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:09 PM, Carl G. Estabrook > wrote: Stephen’s arguments should not be dismissed out of hand, not because they are plausible, but because some people follow them. They are not impossible - a square circle is impossible - just highly improbable, like David Icke’s shape-shifting lizards. They are arguments that need to be countered with accurate analyses of current politics and war - and the current political establishment is even more opposed to that. The founders of AWARE were right to connect war and racism, not because the US government’s wars arise from racism (as perhaps identity politics would have us believe), but because US wars generate racism, as in the perhaps misnamed Islamophobia. (As the estimable B. Fields puts it in regard to a related matter, "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco”!) >From Thomas Pynchon’s immortal Proverbs for Paranoids (in his novel Gravity’s Rainbow): “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers” - they, being the ruling class, and the wrong questions being about Jews rather than the 1%. August Bebel (1840-1913) applied that principle to Stephen’s assertions more than a century ago, when he observed, “Antisemitism is the socialism of fools.” He meant that contemporary Europeans knew that there was something profoundly wrong and inhuman about capitalism, but misidentified who was responsible for it - the Jewish shopkeeper rather than the owners of the means of production. (How that came about is illuminated by an unjustly ignored book, Israel Shahak’s "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years" [1994].) But (as we often say on News from Neptune), no one can be wrong all the time. Stephen is right when he says “Donald Trump … is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times” (and that’s the real source of the appeal which may make Trump president). Stephen there is not babbling but perhaps Bebeling… (sorry). —CGE > On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: > >  Stephen is so full of it, all one can do is LOL, which is really sad given the really serious issues humanity is facing, and this peace list is meant to address, not his nonsense > > . >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:51, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: >> >> Instead of BS, prove to me with facts and figures that Jews have NOT controlled banking/finance for millennia. >> I'm not supposed to say these...keep my mouth shut... >> I know that I'm risking harm by doing this. >> >> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:44 AM, David Johnson > wrote: >> >> >> Hey Stephen, >> >> I heard that the sinking of the Titanic was a Jewish plot. >> >> You know, Iceberg, Goldberg, what’s the difference ? >> >> David J. >> >> >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:28 AM >> To: Mildred O'brien; Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Stephen Francis >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >> >> When I get messages like this it just confirms that I'm getting my message across. >> I'm attempting, like (Donald Trump, who I'm no fan of) to expose the LIES and DECEIT by our government and its leaders. >> He is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times. >> Jewish banksters (major bulge bracket banks) were fined over $100 billion dollars for the 2008 housing fraud >> crisis and not one of them went to jail. By not admitting wrong-doing in the legal proceedings, the fines became tax write-offs that the American people have to pay for. We just signed a $38 billion foreign aid bill to Israel. GET MY POINT! >> Jill Stein just declared that 9/11 should be reinvestigated. Zionists did 9/11. I'm going to vote for her.  She will do something about our corrupt Israeli-controlled, bribed, blackmailed government. >> If you don't like me...organize an effort to get me kicked off this group.  It would only happen because of Jewish power not because I broke any rule governing this group. >> http://forward.com/the-assimilator/131574/jews-dominate-forbes-rich-list/ >> >> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:09 AM, Mildred O'brien > wrote: >> >> How about YOU keeping quiet for a while >> >> mo'b >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > >> To: Peace-discuss List > >> Cc: Stephen Francis > >> Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 10:29 am >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >> Sure is quiet on this site ...??? >> Let's see... >> AWARE Antiwar, Anti racist? >> Maybe we need some comments on anti-racism. >> How about some Critical Theory.... >> Maybe a little Horkheimer and Markuse >> _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:43 PM, Stephen Francis wrote: And if you doubt the influence of Jewish Zionist funded Cultural Marxism in our quaint little setting here in Champaign Urbana, notice the inclusion of Marx (Institute of Social Research, Critical Theory) in this link.... oh and Freud.Unit for Criticism at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign | | | Unit for Criticism at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign | | | I wonder how many white soy bean farmers know about this? On Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:34 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 106 (Karen Aram) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:33:45 +0000 From: Karen Aram To: Stephen Francis Cc: "peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net"     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 106 Message-ID:         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Stephen Francis does bring out really good counter, discussion from Carl, and David Johnson, they are both worth reading, so I guess there is a reason for keeping some people on the Peace List. On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:27, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: There is a rather entertaining microcosm here that parallels the national elections. I never dreamed that I would be defending white nationalists...(who abhor neoNazis) as a California hippy war protester. But the study of Cultural Marxism has led me on that path. Trump's reference (possibly unbeknownst to him and the public, and its link to Cultural Marxism) to political correctness is very important and has struck a national note. The Zionist national press has pummeled him with accusations of racism for months only to make him stronger.  They don't know whether to poop or fly. Cultural Marxism predicts this behavior. But in doing so, they (Zionists) have exposed their flanks and told us their real motives and agenda, and it's not fair reporting... it's to maintain Zionist power in the US/Democrats/HRC/Obama. AWARE, by marginalizing my arguments is just like the MSM pummeling Trump. It's a Zionist / Jewish organization parading as an antiwar group with varying degrees of compliance with the above. When I created the Occupy Champaign/Urbana Facebook page, the same thing happened.  It was infiltrated and subverted by Jewish influencers...who completely rendered it impotent. Most in the group don't even know the process. On Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:38 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" > wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Quiet? (David Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:31 -0500 From: "David Johnson" > To: "'Stephen Francis'" >,     > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? Message-ID: <013d01d20f80$5c11d9f0$14358dd0$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" You are not only ignorant of history but you have no clue what Socialism really is ! Socialism pure and simple is economic and political democracy. The rule of the 99% NOT the 1%. The 1% is comprised of JEWISH AND GENTILE, HINDU AND MUSLIM people , just like the 99 %. The Russian revolution was NOT caused by a “ Zionist plot “ it was the desperation of hundreds of millions of people in horrible poverty, war and repression that caused it. It did not turn out well of course, because of many factors, which was not unique for revolutions in general. But Zionism was NOT even in the equation in that regard. The word “ Socialism “ like the word “ Christianity “ has been claimed by numerous monsters and opportunists throughout history. From Hitler to Stalin and Lenin, from the Spanish Inquisition and the evil Oliver Cromwell to Jerry Fallwell. Instead of focusing on ; the capitalist class , Zionism, or the policies of the Israeli and U.S. governments, you are making negative generalizations against an entire ethnic group of people. THAT IS RACISM ! Your good at parroting racist right-wing pro-capitalist propaganda, and that is about it ! Now go away ! Nobody wants to read your vile ; racist, anti-Semitic, pro-capitalist bullshit, nor your fucked up analysis ( ignorance ) of history. If I had the ability I would block you from posting to this list. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:28 PM To: Carl G. Estabrook; Karen Aram Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? As per CGE: "Antisemitism is the socialism of fools" Was Martin Luther a fool? If I'm not mistaken, in his book 'On the Jews and Their Lies' circa 1543, Martin Luther is decrying the attempt by Jews to monopolize the virtues of circumcision before the eyes of God... Luther: "Why then do the Jews lie so shamefully before God in their prayer and preaching, as though circumcision were theirs alone, through which they were set apart from all other nations and thus they alone are God's holy people?" Socialism and Zionism are not unlikely partners.... given the history of Israel... and the ring of antiSemitism has always been a form of protection that this group needs to surround their identity. It's group-think instead of individuality expressed. Socialism ultimately is the abandonment of individuality for the collective leader's dictates. A primitive form of socialism must have been forming even in Luther's day. Evidently in 1543, the Jews were able to, through considerable means, convey their power, to the consternation of Luther, through this discourse on circumcision given that this discourse was available to them, where racism was not. Description: Image removed by sender. luther On Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:09 PM, Carl G. Estabrook > wrote: Stephen’s arguments should not be dismissed out of hand, not because they are plausible, but because some people follow them. They are not impossible - a square circle is impossible - just highly improbable, like David Icke’s shape-shifting lizards. They are arguments that need to be countered with accurate analyses of current politics and war - and the current political establishment is even more opposed to that. The founders of AWARE were right to connect war and racism, not because the US government’s wars arise from racism (as perhaps identity politics would have us believe), but because US wars generate racism, as in the perhaps misnamed Islamophobia. (As the estimable B. Fields puts it in regard to a related matter, "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco”!) >From Thomas Pynchon’s immortal Proverbs for Paranoids (in his novel Gravity’s Rainbow): “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers” - they, being the ruling class, and the wrong questions being about Jews rather than the 1%. August Bebel (1840-1913) applied that principle to Stephen’s assertions more than a century ago, when he observed, “Antisemitism is the socialism of fools.” He meant that contemporary Europeans knew that there was something profoundly wrong and inhuman about capitalism, but misidentified who was responsible for it - the Jewish shopkeeper rather than the owners of the means of production. (How that came about is illuminated by an unjustly ignored book, Israel Shahak’s "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years" [1994].) But (as we often say on News from Neptune), no one can be wrong all the time. Stephen is right when he says “Donald Trump … is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times” (and that’s the real source of the appeal which may make Trump president). Stephen there is not babbling but perhaps Bebeling… (sorry). —CGE > On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: > >  Stephen is so full of it, all one can do is LOL, which is really sad given the really serious issues humanity is facing, and this peace list is meant to address, not his nonsense > > . >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:51, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: >> >> Instead of BS, prove to me with facts and figures that Jews have NOT controlled banking/finance for millennia. >> I'm not supposed to say these...keep my mouth shut... >> I know that I'm risking harm by doing this. >> >> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:44 AM, David Johnson > wrote: >> >> >> Hey Stephen, >> >> I heard that the sinking of the Titanic was a Jewish plot. >> >> You know, Iceberg, Goldberg, what’s the difference ? >> >> David J. >> >> >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:28 AM >> To: Mildred O'brien; Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Stephen Francis >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >> >> When I get messages like this it just confirms that I'm getting my message across. >> I'm attempting, like (Donald Trump, who I'm no fan of) to expose the LIES and DECEIT by our government and its leaders. >> He is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times. >> Jewish banksters (major bulge bracket banks) were fined over $100 billion dollars for the 2008 housing fraud >> crisis and not one of them went to jail. By not admitting wrong-doing in the legal proceedings, the fines became tax write-offs that the American people have to pay for. We just signed a $38 billion foreign aid bill to Israel. GET MY POINT! >> Jill Stein just declared that 9/11 should be reinvestigated. Zionists did 9/11. I'm going to vote for her.  She will do something about our corrupt Israeli-controlled, bribed, blackmailed government. >> If you don't like me...organize an effort to get me kicked off this group.  It would only happen because of Jewish power not because I broke any rule governing this group. >> http://forward.com/the-assimilator/131574/jews-dominate-forbes-rich-list/ >> >> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:09 AM, Mildred O'brien > wrote: >> >> How about YOU keeping quiet for a while >> >> mo'b >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > >> To: Peace-discuss List > >> Cc: Stephen Francis > >> Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 10:29 am >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >> Sure is quiet on this site ...??? >> Let's see... >> AWARE Antiwar, Anti racist? >> Maybe we need some comments on anti-racism. >> How about some Critical Theory.... >> Maybe a little Horkheimer and Markuse >> _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <637242607.324200.1473951103054@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1535574307.1025537.1473866921493@mail.yahoo.com> <1572df785d1-6069-42c8@webprd-m18.mail.aol.com> <722267114.273879.1473949665654@mail.yahoo.com> <00c501d20f5f$b9f42260$2ddc6720$@comcast.net> <637242607.324200.1473951103054@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I suppose we could talk about men controlling banks, government, land transactions, all property,... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Thu Sep 15 21:26:11 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:26:11 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 106 In-Reply-To: References: <1424985584.513536.1473967622975@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <020301d20f97$c8805e60$59811b20$@comcast.net> Wow ! I missed that posting by Francis. I guess we can add delusional to his list of attributes. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:34 PM To: Stephen Francis Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 106 Stephen Francis does bring out really good counter, discussion from Carl, and David Johnson, they are both worth reading, so I guess there is a reason for keeping some people on the Peace List. On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:27, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: There is a rather entertaining microcosm here that parallels the national elections. I never dreamed that I would be defending white nationalists...(who abhor neoNazis) as a California hippy war protester. But the study of Cultural Marxism has led me on that path. Trump's reference (possibly unbeknownst to him and the public, and its link to Cultural Marxism) to political correctness is very important and has struck a national note. The Zionist national press has pummeled him with accusations of racism for months only to make him stronger. They don't know whether to poop or fly. Cultural Marxism predicts this behavior. But in doing so, they (Zionists) have exposed their flanks and told us their real motives and agenda, and it's not fair reporting... it's to maintain Zionist power in the US/Democrats/HRC/Obama. AWARE, by marginalizing my arguments is just like the MSM pummeling Trump. It's a Zionist / Jewish organization parading as an antiwar group with varying degrees of compliance with the above. When I created the Occupy Champaign/Urbana Facebook page, the same thing happened. It was infiltrated and subverted by Jewish influencers...who completely rendered it impotent. Most in the group don't even know the process. On Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:38 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Quiet? (David Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:31 -0500 From: "David Johnson" To: "'Stephen Francis'" , Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? Message-ID: <013d01d20f80$5c11d9f0$14358dd0$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" You are not only ignorant of history but you have no clue what Socialism really is ! Socialism pure and simple is economic and political democracy. The rule of the 99% NOT the 1%. The 1% is comprised of JEWISH AND GENTILE, HINDU AND MUSLIM people , just like the 99 %. The Russian revolution was NOT caused by a “ Zionist plot “ it was the desperation of hundreds of millions of people in horrible poverty, war and repression that caused it. It did not turn out well of course, because of many factors, which was not unique for revolutions in general. But Zionism was NOT even in the equation in that regard. The word “ Socialism “ like the word “ Christianity “ has been claimed by numerous monsters and opportunists throughout history. From Hitler to Stalin and Lenin, from the Spanish Inquisition and the evil Oliver Cromwell to Jerry Fallwell. Instead of focusing on ; the capitalist class , Zionism, or the policies of the Israeli and U.S. governments, you are making negative generalizations against an entire ethnic group of people. THAT IS RACISM ! Your good at parroting racist right-wing pro-capitalist propaganda, and that is about it ! Now go away ! Nobody wants to read your vile ; racist, anti-Semitic, pro-capitalist bullshit, nor your fucked up analysis ( ignorance ) of history. If I had the ability I would block you from posting to this list. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:28 PM To: Carl G. Estabrook; Karen Aram Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? As per CGE: "Antisemitism is the socialism of fools" Was Martin Luther a fool? If I'm not mistaken, in his book 'On the Jews and Their Lies' circa 1543, Martin Luther is decrying the attempt by Jews to monopolize the virtues of circumcision before the eyes of God... Luther: "Why then do the Jews lie so shamefully before God in their prayer and preaching, as though circumcision were theirs alone, through which they were set apart from all other nations and thus they alone are God's holy people?" Socialism and Zionism are not unlikely partners.... given the history of Israel... and the ring of antiSemitism has always been a form of protection that this group needs to surround their identity. It's group-think instead of individuality expressed. Socialism ultimately is the abandonment of individuality for the collective leader's dictates. A primitive form of socialism must have been forming even in Luther's day. Evidently in 1543, the Jews were able to, through considerable means, convey their power, to the consternation of Luther, through this discourse on circumcision given that this discourse was available to them, where racism was not. Description: Image removed by sender. luther On Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:09 PM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: Stephen’s arguments should not be dismissed out of hand, not because they are plausible, but because some people follow them. They are not impossible - a square circle is impossible - just highly improbable, like David Icke’s shape-shifting lizards. They are arguments that need to be countered with accurate analyses of current politics and war - and the current political establishment is even more opposed to that. The founders of AWARE were right to connect war and racism, not because the US government’s wars arise from racism (as perhaps identity politics would have us believe), but because US wars generate racism, as in the perhaps misnamed Islamophobia. (As the estimable B. Fields puts it in regard to a related matter, "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco”!) >From Thomas Pynchon’s immortal Proverbs for Paranoids (in his novel Gravity’s Rainbow): “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers” - they, being the ruling class, and the wrong questions being about Jews rather than the 1%. August Bebel (1840-1913) applied that principle to Stephen’s assertions more than a century ago, when he observed, “Antisemitism is the socialism of fools.” He meant that contemporary Europeans knew that there was something profoundly wrong and inhuman about capitalism, but misidentified who was responsible for it - the Jewish shopkeeper rather than the owners of the means of production. (How that came about is illuminated by an unjustly ignored book, Israel Shahak’s "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years" [1994].) But (as we often say on News from Neptune), no one can be wrong all the time. Stephen is right when he says “Donald Trump … is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times” (and that’s the real source of the appeal which may make Trump president). Stephen there is not babbling but perhaps Bebeling… (sorry). —CGE > On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Stephen is so full of it, all one can do is LOL, which is really sad given the really serious issues humanity is facing, and this peace list is meant to address, not his nonsense > > . >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:51, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Instead of BS, prove to me with facts and figures that Jews have NOT controlled banking/finance for millennia. >> I'm not supposed to say these...keep my mouth shut... >> I know that I'm risking harm by doing this. >> >> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:44 AM, David Johnson wrote: >> >> >> Hey Stephen, >> >> I heard that the sinking of the Titanic was a Jewish plot. >> >> You know, Iceberg, Goldberg, what’s the difference ? >> >> David J. >> >> >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:28 AM >> To: Mildred O'brien; Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Stephen Francis >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >> >> When I get messages like this it just confirms that I'm getting my message across. >> I'm attempting, like (Donald Trump, who I'm no fan of) to expose the LIES and DECEIT by our government and its leaders. >> He is telling the truth about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and the trillions of dollars that have lined the pockets of the rich while ordinary Americans muddle through economic hard times. >> Jewish banksters (major bulge bracket banks) were fined over $100 billion dollars for the 2008 housing fraud >> crisis and not one of them went to jail. By not admitting wrong-doing in the legal proceedings, the fines became tax write-offs that the American people have to pay for. We just signed a $38 billion foreign aid bill to Israel. GET MY POINT! >> Jill Stein just declared that 9/11 should be reinvestigated. Zionists did 9/11. I'm going to vote for her. She will do something about our corrupt Israeli-controlled, bribed, blackmailed government. >> If you don't like me...organize an effort to get me kicked off this group. It would only happen because of Jewish power not because I broke any rule governing this group. >> http://forward.com/the-assimilator/131574/jews-dominate-forbes-rich-list/ >> >> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:09 AM, Mildred O'brien wrote: >> >> How about YOU keeping quiet for a while >> >> mo'b >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss >> To: Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Stephen Francis >> Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 10:29 am >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quiet? >> Sure is quiet on this site ...??? >> Let's see... >> AWARE Antiwar, Anti racist? >> Maybe we need some comments on anti-racism. >> How about some Critical Theory.... >> Maybe a little Horkheimer and Markuse >> _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 16 01:11:08 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 01:11:08 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Coda: The Elephant Stampede In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry I could not make it today over to our Bull-twaddling panel on "free speech on campus" by our professional Illinois/Yale Law bull-twaddlers from the Illinois/Yale Mafia Schools of Law. So I cannot make a comment on it.But in lieu thereof, and speaking of bull-twaddle I thought I would send you this poem and coda I wrote in honor of our Disgraced, Fired and ABA-sanctioned NeoCon Bull-Twaddling Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd. Ditto for our Disgraced, Fired and ABA-Sanctioned Illinois/Yale Law Mafia Bull-Twaddling Dean Uncle Brucie Smith. Enjoy! Fab. Coda Ringling has now retired their elephants No more krapping elephant stampedes But our 2 krapping ex-Deans still remain Stinking up the place Alas! On both counts! Krapping elephants amused me as a kid But krapping ex-law-deans today do not They should go stink up somewhere else For both are all krapped out here. The Elephant Stampede When I was a young boy Every year with my Dad We would go to see The Ringling Brothers, Barnum and Bailey Circus At the Old Amphitheater Three Rings At the end of the show Came their famous elephant stampede All the pachyderms would line up in a row With scantily clad young women on top And at the appointed time With their trunks they would grasp The tails of the elephants in front And rumble around all 3 rings Like an earthquake The band played on The girls riding bareback But elephants are an incontinent lot Pissing and crapping as they plodded along So at the rear of each pach Was a man dressed as a janitor With a metal garbage can on wheelies And a coal shovel. So as each animal would crap Its man would reach in with his shovel And scoop it right out And plop the poop in the can Before the next elephant stomped on it Magnificently choreographed for all to see A Ballet of elephants and men and poop on a scoop But every once in a while The man could not get in there on time And so the next elephant would stomp On a dropped pile of shit That would splat around the Old Amphitheater I am reminded of this childhood spectacle Now at the start of my 38th year here At the college of law After eleven years of Deans Hurd and Smith Dropping their crap all around These Ivy bedecked halls In two separate scandals One after the other Up to our necks in their crap Who is going to scoop it all up? Where are we going to put it? Or will we just let it ferment? As it wafts up our nostrils As it has done all these years Onward and upward To our brains Now fermented in shit For well over a decade. Here's to Deans Hurd and Smith Long may they live In the Annals of College of Law Shit Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Sep 16 01:39:35 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 01:39:35 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Coda: The Elephant Stampede In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Prof. Boyle, you missed your true calling of poet. I did attend, so I will comment: Prof. Amar a Constitutional Law Prof. of Yale was supposed to be speaking on the Constitution but it was Poli Sci 101 promoting his book and Hillary, as was expected. Three people asked questions related to law and he not only disparaged third parties but blamed Nader for Bush and the wars. He talked about how awful Trump was, and how “moderate” Hillary is and why we need her, he even mentioned Tammy Duckworth a local democratic candidate. I asked him "how could he support Hillary given her record as Sec. of State, responsible along with Obama for the death and destruction, of the thousands of people of Libya, Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq.” continuing with "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how could you support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who has broken not only international law but our laws, by extending the Bush wars to as many as eight nations”. Then said "I came here expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the democrats." He responded with “your exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising mine" He defended the wars as “mistakes", referring to Gadafi as a dictator, with only five American people having died, emphasizing “only five”, as if the thousands of non Americans don’t matter. It offered me, a Green, the opportunity to link up with the local Libertarians for future joint activities against war. I hope we can prepare for the Oct. 28th speaking engagement of Harold Killer Koh, at the COL, with protests and enough media coverage to publicize the perfidy of these people who care so little about the lives they are responsible for destroying. On Sep 15, 2016, at 18:11, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: Sorry I could not make it today over to our Bull-twaddling panel on “free speech on campus” by our professional Illinois/Yale Law bull-twaddlers from the Illinois/Yale Mafia Schools of Law. So I cannot make a comment on it.But in lieu thereof, and speaking of bull-twaddle I thought I would send you this poem and coda I wrote in honor of our Disgraced, Fired and ABA-sanctioned NeoCon Bull-Twaddling Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd. Ditto for our Disgraced, Fired and ABA-Sanctioned Illinois/Yale Law Mafia Bull-Twaddling Dean Uncle Brucie Smith. Enjoy! Fab. Coda Ringling has now retired their elephants No more krapping elephant stampedes But our 2 krapping ex-Deans still remain Stinking up the place Alas! On both counts! Krapping elephants amused me as a kid But krapping ex-law-deans today do not They should go stink up somewhere else For both are all krapped out here. The Elephant Stampede When I was a young boy Every year with my Dad We would go to see The Ringling Brothers, Barnum and Bailey Circus At the Old Amphitheater Three Rings At the end of the show Came their famous elephant stampede All the pachyderms would line up in a row With scantily clad young women on top And at the appointed time With their trunks they would grasp The tails of the elephants in front And rumble around all 3 rings Like an earthquake The band played on The girls riding bareback But elephants are an incontinent lot Pissing and crapping as they plodded along So at the rear of each pach Was a man dressed as a janitor With a metal garbage can on wheelies And a coal shovel. So as each animal would crap Its man would reach in with his shovel And scoop it right out And plop the poop in the can Before the next elephant stomped on it Magnificently choreographed for all to see A Ballet of elephants and men and poop on a scoop But every once in a while The man could not get in there on time And so the next elephant would stomp On a dropped pile of shit That would splat around the Old Amphitheater I am reminded of this childhood spectacle Now at the start of my 38th year here At the college of law After eleven years of Deans Hurd and Smith Dropping their crap all around These Ivy bedecked halls In two separate scandals One after the other Up to our necks in their crap Who is going to scoop it all up? Where are we going to put it? Or will we just let it ferment? As it wafts up our nostrils As it has done all these years Onward and upward To our brains Now fermented in shit For well over a decade. Here’s to Deans Hurd and Smith Long may they live In the Annals of College of Law Shit Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 16 01:44:35 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 01:44:35 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Coda: The Elephant Stampede In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Karen: Thanks. You are so very kind. My Grandfather, Ter Boyle was a Farmer, a Poet, and an IRA Volunteer in Ireland’s War of Independence against the British Empire. According to a contemporary, “he was a great poet, the greatest poet in County Kerry.” So it runs in the family. Yes, that is what we can expect when our Yale Law Mafia Dean Amar brings in Yale Law Mafia War Criminal and Genocidaire Killer Koh on October 28 to campaign on behalf of Yale Law Mafia War Criminal and Genocidaire Killary. See you all on October 28, Noon, North End of the College of Law on Peabody Drive. Be there or be square! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:40 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: chicago at worldcantwait.net; Amanda Bass ; C. G. Estabrook ; C. G. Estabrook ; Peace Discuss ; David Johnson ; Stuart Levy ; Karen Medina ; Szoke, Ron ; Mildred O'brien ; peace at lists.chambana.net; davegreen84 at yahoo.com; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; Belden Fields ; jmachota at shout.net; Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List ; Bryan Savage ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; David Swanson Subject: Re: Coda: The Elephant Stampede Prof. Boyle, you missed your true calling of poet. I did attend, so I will comment: Prof. Amar a Constitutional Law Prof. of Yale was supposed to be speaking on the Constitution but it was Poli Sci 101 promoting his book and Hillary, as was expected. Three people asked questions related to law and he not only disparaged third parties but blamed Nader for Bush and the wars. He talked about how awful Trump was, and how “moderate” Hillary is and why we need her, he even mentioned Tammy Duckworth a local democratic candidate. I asked him "how could he support Hillary given her record as Sec. of State, responsible along with Obama for the death and destruction, of the thousands of people of Libya, Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq.” continuing with "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how could you support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who has broken not only international law but our laws, by extending the Bush wars to as many as eight nations”. Then said "I came here expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the democrats." He responded with “your exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising mine" He defended the wars as “mistakes", referring to Gadafi as a dictator, with only five American people having died, emphasizing “only five”, as if the thousands of non Americans don’t matter. It offered me, a Green, the opportunity to link up with the local Libertarians for future joint activities against war. I hope we can prepare for the Oct. 28th speaking engagement of Harold Killer Koh, at the COL, with protests and enough media coverage to publicize the perfidy of these people who care so little about the lives they are responsible for destroying. On Sep 15, 2016, at 18:11, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: Sorry I could not make it today over to our Bull-twaddling panel on “free speech on campus” by our professional Illinois/Yale Law bull-twaddlers from the Illinois/Yale Mafia Schools of Law. So I cannot make a comment on it.But in lieu thereof, and speaking of bull-twaddle I thought I would send you this poem and coda I wrote in honor of our Disgraced, Fired and ABA-sanctioned NeoCon Bull-Twaddling Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd. Ditto for our Disgraced, Fired and ABA-Sanctioned Illinois/Yale Law Mafia Bull-Twaddling Dean Uncle Brucie Smith. Enjoy! Fab. Coda Ringling has now retired their elephants No more krapping elephant stampedes But our 2 krapping ex-Deans still remain Stinking up the place Alas! On both counts! Krapping elephants amused me as a kid But krapping ex-law-deans today do not They should go stink up somewhere else For both are all krapped out here. The Elephant Stampede When I was a young boy Every year with my Dad We would go to see The Ringling Brothers, Barnum and Bailey Circus At the Old Amphitheater Three Rings At the end of the show Came their famous elephant stampede All the pachyderms would line up in a row With scantily clad young women on top And at the appointed time With their trunks they would grasp The tails of the elephants in front And rumble around all 3 rings Like an earthquake The band played on The girls riding bareback But elephants are an incontinent lot Pissing and crapping as they plodded along So at the rear of each pach Was a man dressed as a janitor With a metal garbage can on wheelies And a coal shovel. So as each animal would crap Its man would reach in with his shovel And scoop it right out And plop the poop in the can Before the next elephant stomped on it Magnificently choreographed for all to see A Ballet of elephants and men and poop on a scoop But every once in a while The man could not get in there on time And so the next elephant would stomp On a dropped pile of shit That would splat around the Old Amphitheater I am reminded of this childhood spectacle Now at the start of my 38th year here At the college of law After eleven years of Deans Hurd and Smith Dropping their crap all around These Ivy bedecked halls In two separate scandals One after the other Up to our necks in their crap Who is going to scoop it all up? Where are we going to put it? Or will we just let it ferment? As it wafts up our nostrils As it has done all these years Onward and upward To our brains Now fermented in shit For well over a decade. Here’s to Deans Hurd and Smith Long may they live In the Annals of College of Law Shit Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 16 01:55:14 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 01:55:14 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: BOOK: United Ireland, Human Rights & Int'l Law / Boyle In-Reply-To: <918F11F0D707A9458876C1B112320C540651BBC1@quoll.law.uiuc.edu> References: <918F11F0D707A9458876C1B112320C540651BBC1@quoll.law.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: Dedicated to my Grandfather Terence "Ter" Boyle, a Farmer, a Poet and an IRA Volunteer against the British Empire during the War for Ireland's Independence-"a great poet, the greatest poet in County Kerry." He was helped by my Grandmother Bridget Murphy Boyle. I don't know if she was IRA too. But she described herself as "a good Sinn Feiner," which in County Kerry meant IRA. I did not know my Grandfather. But my Grandmother was a Tough Old Bird. RIPs. Fab Green Diaper Baby. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:FBOYLE at law.illinois.edu] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 11:23 AM To: Killeacle Subject: FW: BOOK: United Ireland, Human Rights & Int'l Law / Boyle [http://www.claritypress.com/sitebuilder/images/Untitled2-204x323.jpg] UNITED IRELAND, HUMAN RIGHTS and INTERNATIONAL LAW by Francis A. Boyle ISBN: 978-0-9833539-2-8 202 pp. $16.95 Available in North America and UK/Europe and from Clarity Press, Inc. During the past three decades, international legal expert Francis A.Boyle has dealt with some of the most difficult problems created byBritain's continued military occupation of six northeast counties inIreland. In so doing, he along with other Irish Americans engaged the formidable Irish American domestic lobby in support of the Irish resistance. This book addresses some of the most important aspects of their historic campaigns-the struggle to prevent deportation of Irish freedom-fighter,Joe Doherty, the protest against the U.S.-U.K. Extradition Treaty of 2006, the effort to engage U.S. multinationals in implementing the MacBride Principles to roll back discrimination against Catholics in Northern Ireland. But most significantly, Boyle makes the legal case for viewing the horrific Irish "Potato Famine"-the Irish Hecatomb-as a result, not of laissez-faire economic policy, but of intentional British genocide. This is the definitive book on all legal/political/human rights aspects of the Irish conflict, including Britain's international legal obligation to decolonize Northern Ireland and going forward, a legal and human rights framework for establishing a United Ireland where all Irish can live in peace with justice for all irrespective of their differences. United Ireland, Human Rights, and International Law is required reading for Irish Americans, people living in Ireland, and the Irish Diaspora around the world. TABLE OF CONTENTS Dedication Irish America Chapter 1. The Irish Hecatomb: The Legal Case for the Potato Famine as British Genocide / 19 Chapter 2 The Decolonization of Northern Ireland / 64 Chapter 3. Putting Britain's Colonial War in Ireland on Trial in the USA / 89 Chapter 4. The Struggle to Free Joe Doherty / 99 Chapter 5. Opposing the U.S.-U.K. Extradition Treaty / 123 Chapter 6. Advocating the MacBride Principles for Northern Ireland / 154 Chapter 7. Sparing Robert John MacBride / 184 Chapter 8. Designing United Ireland / 188 Index Available directly from Clarity Press, amazon.com, amazon.co.uk or our distributors in the USA, UK/Europe/ Middle East, Malaysia/Singapore, World Clarity Press, Inc. http://www.claritypress.com You are presently listed as a Clarity Press subscriber. To unsubscribe, press here [http://www.claritypress.com/sitebuilder/images/Boyle-McBrideweb-228x322.png] Dual National FRANCIS BOYLE (right) with SEAN MACBRIDE, S.C. Foreign Minister for the Republic of Ireland Nobel Peace Prize Laureate and Chief of Staff of the Irish Republican Army FRANCIS A. BOYLE is a leading American expert in international law. He was responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention. He served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia-Herzegovina at the World Court. He served as legal adviser to the Palestinian Delegation to the Middle East peace negotiations from 1991 to 1993. In 2007, he delivered the Bertrand Russell Peace Lectures. Professor Boyle teaches international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign and is author of, inter alia, The Future of International Law and American Foreign Policy, Foundations of World Order, The Criminality of Nuclear Deterrence, Palestine, Palestinians and International Law, Destroying World Order, Biowarfare & Terrorism, Tackling America's Toughest Questions, The Tamil Genocide by Sri Lanka and The Palestinian Right of Return Under International Law. He holds a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Francis Boyle via YouTube [mailto:noreply at youtube.com] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:56 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: Francis Boyle sent you a video: "The Clancy Brothers & Tommy Makem -The Men of the West" [http://s.ytimg.com/yt/img/email/digest/email_header.png] [https://yt3.ggpht.com/-w4phvYGWivc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/_Vq2X19VNEk/s50-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg] Francis Boyle has shared a video with you on YouTube [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ub6YOsOmi3s/mqdefault.jpg] The Clancy Brothers & Tommy Makem -The Men of the West by Svanelicorne Irish Folk Help center • Report spam ©2016 YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 16 02:06:35 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 02:06:35 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Bastille Day 1978 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Screw Killer Koh! Fab French Irish American Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:support at lists.aals.org] Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:42 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: [SECTNS.aals] - Bastille Day 1978 I am the Son Of Three Revolutions American (1776) French (1789) Irish (1916) Their Heritage Courses through my veins Their Ideas are always on my mind Their Ideals Inspire my being All men are created equal Women too Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite Up the rebels! It is hard to imagine the courage of them all And on this day To honor the heroism of those Who stormed the Bastille Bringing down centuries Of Tyranny, Violence and Oppression Opening a new chapter In the Rights of Man-and Women too Rousseau's General Will Not the Will of His Majesty I stand with one of America's Greatest Founding Fathers Tom Paine In support of the French Revolution Against its detractors The Rights of Man-and Women too Tom said about the British King In Common Sense After the Massacres at Lexington and Concord Who founded the British monarchy? It was that Norman Bastard and his Gang of Bandits William dubbed the Conquerer The same for the French King, Queen and Aristocrats Just a Gang of Bastards and Bandits Let them all eat the cake of history I proudly celebrate The Fourth of July Bastille Day Easter Monday So I chose Bastille Day 1978 To leave my students days in Boston Home of the American Revolution To return to the Land of my Birth The State of Illinois The Land of Lincoln Who freed the slaves to start my fight against Injustice, and Tyranny and Violence Against the Rich, and the Powerful and the Famous For the Poor, the Oppressed and the Downtrodden of the World Palestinians, Bosnians, Chechens, Irish, Lakota, Blackfoot, Tamils, Kanakamaoli, African Americans, Puerto Ricans, Nicaraguans,Libyans, Arabs, and Muslims The list goes on Against Presidents, Prime Ministers, Foreign Ministers, Ambassadors Against their Nukes and their Chems and Their Bios The real terrorists of Weapons of Mass Destruction For GI resistors and against wars of all types For civil resistors and their causes Against States and Governments and Empires And educating lawyers to do the same A force multiplier 37 years And maybe 3700 lawyers or so Trained to do as I Boyle's Brigade Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite! Up the rebels! Francis A. Boyle French Irish American Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ Site Links: View post online View mailing list online Start new thread via email Unsubscribe from this mailing list Manage your subscription This list is a forum for the exchange of points of view. Opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of the group associated with the list and do not necessarily represent the position of the Association of American Law Schools. Use of this email content is governed by the terms of service at: https://connect.aals.org/p/cm/ld/fid=280 ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 16 12:59:16 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:59:16 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] From the Ed Norton Professor of Law at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafias School Message-ID: When I was 18 I had a summer job working for the Chicago Public Sewer System-literally at the very bottom of it. I was down there working in, sloshing around in, smelling and getting splattered upon with krap and miscellaneous other things. You would not believe the things people throw down their toilets. Well believe me, I have personally seen it all and since we are in polite company I will not itemize it all. At the end of a hard day of work I went home and literally had to disinfect myself in the shower before eating dinner. A real Ed Norton from The Honeymooners. Well that's exactly what it is like working here at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafias School. I have to work in, slosh around in, and smell their krap all day long. You would not believe the things they do around here. Killer Koh is only the tip of the proverbial iceberg. So after a hard day of work, I go over to ARC/IMPE and swim my 2000 yards getting completely disinfected from all their krap by means of the heavily chlorinated water in the ARC/IMPE pools-it can kill anything and everything. And then I can go home for dinner. Yo! Trixie! What's for dinner? Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law Illinois/Yale Law Mafias School Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:11 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: FW: Coda: The Elephant Stampede Sorry I could not make it today over to our Bull-twaddling panel on "free speech on campus" by our professional Illinois/Yale Law bull-twaddlers from the Illinois/Yale Mafia Schools of Law. So I cannot make a comment on it.But in lieu thereof, and speaking of bull-twaddle I thought I would send you this poem and coda I wrote in honor of our Disgraced, Fired and ABA-sanctioned NeoCon Bull-Twaddling Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd. Ditto for our Disgraced, Fired and ABA-Sanctioned Illinois/Yale Law Mafia Bull-Twaddling Dean Uncle Brucie Smith. Enjoy! Fab. Coda Ringling has now retired their elephants No more krapping elephant stampedes But our 2 krapping ex-Deans still remain Stinking up the place Alas! On both counts! Krapping elephants amused me as a kid But krapping ex-law-deans today do not They should go stink up somewhere else For both are all krapped out here. The Elephant Stampede When I was a young boy Every year with my Dad We would go to see The Ringling Brothers, Barnum and Bailey Circus At the Old Amphitheater Three Rings At the end of the show Came their famous elephant stampede All the pachyderms would line up in a row With scantily clad young women on top And at the appointed time With their trunks they would grasp The tails of the elephants in front And rumble around all 3 rings Like an earthquake The band played on The girls riding bareback But elephants are an incontinent lot Pissing and crapping as they plodded along So at the rear of each pach Was a man dressed as a janitor With a metal garbage can on wheelies And a coal shovel. So as each animal would crap Its man would reach in with his shovel And scoop it right out And plop the poop in the can Before the next elephant stomped on it Magnificently choreographed for all to see A Ballet of elephants and men and poop on a scoop But every once in a while The man could not get in there on time And so the next elephant would stomp On a dropped pile of shit That would splat around the Old Amphitheater I am reminded of this childhood spectacle Now at the start of my 38th year here At the college of law After eleven years of Deans Hurd and Smith Dropping their crap all around These Ivy bedecked halls In two separate scandals One after the other Up to our necks in their crap Who is going to scoop it all up? Where are we going to put it? Or will we just let it ferment? As it wafts up our nostrils As it has done all these years Onward and upward To our brains Now fermented in shit For well over a decade. Here's to Deans Hurd and Smith Long may they live In the Annals of College of Law Shit Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 16 13:42:42 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:42:42 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] From the Ed Norton Professor of Law at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafias School In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This Law School is in a Death Spiral. Killer Koh proves it. Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 7:59 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: From the Ed Norton Professor of Law at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafias School When I was 18 I had a summer job working for the Chicago Public Sewer System-literally at the very bottom of it. I was down there working in, sloshing around in, smelling and getting splattered upon with krap and miscellaneous other things. You would not believe the things people throw down their toilets. Well believe me, I have personally seen it all and since we are in polite company I will not itemize it all. At the end of a hard day of work I went home and literally had to disinfect myself in the shower before eating dinner. A real Ed Norton from The Honeymooners. Well that's exactly what it is like working here at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafias School. I have to work in, slosh around in, and smell their krap all day long. You would not believe the things they do around here. Killer Koh is only the tip of the proverbial iceberg. So after a hard day of work, I go over to ARC/IMPE and swim my 2000 yards getting completely disinfected from all their krap by means of the heavily chlorinated water in the ARC/IMPE pools-it can kill anything and everything. And then I can go home for dinner. Yo! Trixie! What's for dinner? Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law Illinois/Yale Law Mafias School Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:11 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: FW: Coda: The Elephant Stampede Sorry I could not make it today over to our Bull-twaddling panel on "free speech on campus" by our professional Illinois/Yale Law bull-twaddlers from the Illinois/Yale Mafia Schools of Law. So I cannot make a comment on it.But in lieu thereof, and speaking of bull-twaddle I thought I would send you this poem and coda I wrote in honor of our Disgraced, Fired and ABA-sanctioned NeoCon Bull-Twaddling Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd. Ditto for our Disgraced, Fired and ABA-Sanctioned Illinois/Yale Law Mafia Bull-Twaddling Dean Uncle Brucie Smith. Enjoy! Fab. Coda Ringling has now retired their elephants No more krapping elephant stampedes But our 2 krapping ex-Deans still remain Stinking up the place Alas! On both counts! Krapping elephants amused me as a kid But krapping ex-law-deans today do not They should go stink up somewhere else For both are all krapped out here. The Elephant Stampede When I was a young boy Every year with my Dad We would go to see The Ringling Brothers, Barnum and Bailey Circus At the Old Amphitheater Three Rings At the end of the show Came their famous elephant stampede All the pachyderms would line up in a row With scantily clad young women on top And at the appointed time With their trunks they would grasp The tails of the elephants in front And rumble around all 3 rings Like an earthquake The band played on The girls riding bareback But elephants are an incontinent lot Pissing and crapping as they plodded along So at the rear of each pach Was a man dressed as a janitor With a metal garbage can on wheelies And a coal shovel. So as each animal would crap Its man would reach in with his shovel And scoop it right out And plop the poop in the can Before the next elephant stomped on it Magnificently choreographed for all to see A Ballet of elephants and men and poop on a scoop But every once in a while The man could not get in there on time And so the next elephant would stomp On a dropped pile of shit That would splat around the Old Amphitheater I am reminded of this childhood spectacle Now at the start of my 38th year here At the college of law After eleven years of Deans Hurd and Smith Dropping their crap all around These Ivy bedecked halls In two separate scandals One after the other Up to our necks in their crap Who is going to scoop it all up? Where are we going to put it? Or will we just let it ferment? As it wafts up our nostrils As it has done all these years Onward and upward To our brains Now fermented in shit For well over a decade. Here's to Deans Hurd and Smith Long may they live In the Annals of College of Law Shit Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Fri Sep 16 21:58:15 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:58:15 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The presidential election is about the war and the economy Message-ID: http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2016/05/24/kosovo-hillary-clintons-legacy-terror/ For forty years, all Republican and Democrat presidential nominees have paid obeisance to both neoliberal and neoconservative principles - until now. Clinton is a neoliberal and a neocon, but Trump isn’t either one. Neoconservatism (using military power to insure US elites' political control => more war) and neoliberalism (using legal authority to insure US elites' economic control => more inequality) are government programs that the public - when they become aware of what they entail - oppose. Therefore Clinton’s lead is declining, as she desperately seeks to mobilize class contempt (his voters are a “…basket of deplorables”) and turn the public’s attention to Trump’s ‘bigotry.’ (Glen Ford of Black Agenda Report: "Hillary Wants a Crusade to Defeat Trump’s ‘Bigotry' – and Leave Her Bankers Alone” .) Trump is presenting, however inchoately, the class politics of the 1930s-70s (the New Deal to the Great Society); Clinton can counter only with the identity politics to which US liberals retreated in the 1970s, after abandoning class politics under the assault of neoliberalism. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Francis Boyle via YouTube [mailto:noreply at youtube.com] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 5:32 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: Francis Boyle sent you a video: "Honeymooners Original Opening" [http://s.ytimg.com/yt/img/email/digest/email_header.png] [https://yt3.ggpht.com/-w4phvYGWivc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/_Vq2X19VNEk/s50-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg] Francis Boyle has shared a video with you on YouTube [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uHqq0WVXiEE/mqdefault.jpg] Honeymooners Original Opening by jiltedromeo The original opening for the classic TV show "The Honeymooners". During the original broadcasts. Starring Jackie Gleason & Art Carney. Brought to you by Pete Hastings ... Help center • Report spam ©2016 YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Francis Boyle via YouTube [mailto:noreply at youtube.com] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 7:11 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: Francis Boyle sent you a video: "02 Song of the Sewer Art Carney" [http://s.ytimg.com/yt/img/email/digest/email_header.png] [https://yt3.ggpht.com/-w4phvYGWivc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/_Vq2X19VNEk/s50-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg] Francis Boyle has shared a video with you on YouTube [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9LN5dOpdpCA/mqdefault.jpg] 02 Song of the Sewer Art Carney by David A Morse DescriptionThis 1985 record was put together by the Honeymooners fan club called ... Help center • Report spam ©2016 YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Sat Sep 17 03:35:28 2016 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 22:35:28 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC In-Reply-To: References: <908112D8-8292-42F1-9265-F4F3DC74C276@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <5ECD57AA-756F-45C4-BCA2-7EC3520B1FB7@illinois.edu> I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. . AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: >> >> Dear Peace-Discuss, >> >> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. >> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands >> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) >> -- karen medina >> ------------------------------- >> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >> 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. >> 3. >> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. >> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. >> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. >> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. >> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >> >> List of Endorsing Local Organizations >> ​ >> • Black Students for Revolution >> >> • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine >> >> • Planner’s Network >> >> • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan >> >> • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee >> >> • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support >> >> • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates >> >> • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization >> >> • MSU - Mixed Student Union >> >> • Women of Pride >> >> • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana >> >> • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois >> >> • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective >> >> • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice >> >> • Men of Impact* >> >> • Students Against Sexual Assault >> >> • My Sister’s Keeper* >> >> • STEM Boycotts the War Machine >> >> • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization >> >> • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS >> >> • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect >> >> • ASA - Arab Student Association >> >> • UIUC Beyond Coal >> >> • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Sep 17 18:04:20 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 18:04:20 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The Ed Norton Professor of Law versus Darth Smarr! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And speaking of the Political Science Department, the later Chair Peter Nardulli and this idiot PoliSci Prof. Paul Diehl filed a formal Complaint with the Dean of the Law School and all other University Big Wigs because I had publicly criticized the CIA/Zinnes/Seitz Contract in the Political Science Department, demanding that I be sanctioned. Jeff already circulated that Panel with Belden and me on there debating against the CIA/Seitz/Zinnes. They all got a response along the lines of my apology that was demanded by Manny Donchin, Chair of our CIA Pseudo-Shrinks Spooks Department. A whistleblower in the Polisci department informed me (1) that basically the entire Policsci department was on the take of the CIA, and (2) that after we had blown the whistle on them all, the Department of Defense bought out the CIA/Zinnes/Seitz contract. Sunlight is the best disinfectant for CIA Academic Lice on Campus like Nardulli, Deal, Seitz, Zinnes, and Donchin et al. Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law Harvard: AM and PHD in Political Science Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:40 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: The Ed Norton Professor of Law versus Darth Smarr! Some of you may have seen the Local Section of the News Gazette today with a color picture of "Larry Smarr, founding director of the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at Illinois...as part of Friday's celebration of the NCSA's 30th anniversary in Urbana." One of the very first public lectures I ever gave here on campus was over at the Illini Union in support of the Ratification of the SALT II Treaty at the request of Larry Smarr. Larry then asked me to join the Prairie Alliance against Nuclear Arms and I worked with them for a number of years. Eventually Larry was appointed the first NCSA Director but of course the BIG U told Larry he was going to have to cut out his anti-nuclear work, which he did.. Well ok. So it goes in academia. But then some sicko professor in the political science department (except for Belden, how many of them are not?) decided to put in a grant to use the NCSA supercomputer in order to develop a program for designing the next generation of ICBM nuclear weapons delivery devices, making the NCSA the "cutting edge" of the nuclear arms race. And Larry Smarr wrote a strong letter in support of this sick and demented proposal-I read it. So Larry Smarr and his NCSA personally become the "cutting edge" of the nuclear arms race. Thus Larry Smarr turned to the Dark Side and transformed himself into Darth Smarr--where he still resides today. Go home Darth Smarr! Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law [Boylebookemail.JPG] Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954(voice) 217-244-1478(fax) fboyle at law.uiuc.edu -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:54 AM To: 'irtheory at yahoogroups.com' Subject: PS: [irtheory] FW: Democracy, War, and Covert Action (fwd) Importance: High Dear Friends: By the way, the fact that Nardulli and Diehl tried to silence me and get me sanctioned by the Chancellor, the Provost, the LAS Dean and the Law Dean on behalf of their CIA Agents Zinnes and Seitz proves how rotten, corrupt and despicable the CIA/UIUC Department of Political Science really is. Q.E.D. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954(voice) 217-244-1478(fax) fboyle at law.uiuc.edu -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:fboyle at LAW.UIUC.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:35 AM To: irtheory at yahoogroups.com Subject: [irtheory] FW: Democracy, War, and Covert Action (fwd) Importance: High -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 11:37 AM To: 'Peter Nardulli'; diehl paul f; dina zinnes; peter nardulli; steve seitz; j-delia at uiuc.edu; Mengler, Tom Cc: aiken at uiuc.edu; rhh at uiuc.edu; A. Belden Fields (E-mail); peace at prairienet. org (E-mail); IRTHEORY (E-mail); irtheory at listbot. com (E-mail); Stephen A. Douglas (E-mail); TWATCH-L at LISTSERV. ACSU. BUFFALO. EDU (E-mail); Rich, Robert Subject: RE: Democracy, War, and Covert Action (fwd) Importance: High Dear Peter: I have been tied up on some important human rights matters all year long.But now that I have some time, I did want to respond to your message: To the contrary, it is you and the Department of Political Science who owe a public apology to each and every Faculty Member of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign for bringing the filth, dirt,slime, corruption, outright criminality, and sheer depravity of the Central Intelligence Agency onto this campus, and thus seriously jeopardizing the safety of all of us who work in Third World Countries. As I understand it, there will be a Panel on this precise subject at the upcoming APSA Convention over Labor Day Weekend. I was invited to be on that Panel. But a prior commitment prevents my appearance. But rest assured that I will continue my efforts to expose the unholy and obscene influence of the Central Intelligence Agency upon the Political Science Department (as well as the Psychology Department), which, as I established in my public debate with your CIA Agents Zinnes and Seitz, violate the APSA Canon of Professional Ethics. It is they and your Department that should be sanctioned. Yours very truly, Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law Board of Directors, Amnesty International USA (1988-92) APSA Member since 1980 Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954(voice) 217-244-1478(fax) fboyle at law.uiuc.edu -----Original Message----- From: Peter Nardulli [mailto:nardulli at ux1.cso.uiuc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 10:36 AM To: Boyle, Francis; diehl paul f; dina zinnes; peter nardulli; steve seitz; j-delia at uiuc.edu; Mengler, Tom Cc: aiken at uiuc.edu; rhh at uiuc.edu Subject: RE: Democracy, War, and Covert Action (fwd) Francis, I am absolutely speechless at the content of the messages that you have been electronically distributing about the Department of Political Science. To say that I am disappointed and insulted by your remarks is an understatement of the greatest magnitude. I believe you owe the Department and the entire campus community a public apology for your indefensible remarks. Peter F. Nardulli PS. You will be pleased to know that the Uof I Political Science Department is doing just fine, your assertions to the contrary notwithstanding. At 09:39 AM 2/7/01 -0600, diehl paul f wrote: >Please note the message below from a friend concerning Francis Boyle's >statements/postings and the PoliSci department > >To: Paul Diehl >Subject: RE: Democracy, War, and Covert Action (fwd) > > >Paul: > >Greetings. I hope all is well with you. > >I'm including an email I received on the irtheory mailing list. Francis A. >Boyle of your law school has been posting a great deal lately about the >CIA's links to your Department. He apparently used the FOIA to get a copy >of a contract Professors Zinnes and Seitz had with the CIA. He points out >that the CIA "required" them to spy on colleagues (by reporting back about >panels at scholarly meetings), etc. He started the debate by posting a LA >Times editorial on this topic recently published by David Gibbs. > >Below is one of his more inflammatory remarks. > > >From: "Boyle, Francis" >To: "Boyle, Francis" , "'BValer at aol.com'" >, > irtheory at listbot.com >Cc: schaub+ at pitt.edu >Subject: RE: Democracy, War, and Covert Action > >The International Relations Theory List > >--------------------------- ListBot Sponsor -------------------------- > >PPS. I should also point out that after Safran/CIA, Harvard's Middle East >Studies Center has NEVER recovered--third rate. Like the UI PoliSci >Department. fab > >Francis A. Boyle >Law Building >504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >Champaign, IL 61820 USA >217-333-7954(voice) >217-244-1478(fax) >fboyle at law.uiuc.edu > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Boyle, Francis >Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 8:31 AM >To: Boyle, Francis; 'BValer at aol.com'; irtheory at listbot.com >Cc: schaub+ at pitt.edu >Subject: RE: Democracy, War, and Covert Action > > >And I should add, Safran's CIA contract perverted and corrupted the entire >Middle East Studies Program at Harvard. I witnessed both that and the >UIPoliSci with my own eyes. You can imagine what CIA Dean NYE is doing to >the Kennedy School. fab > >Francis A. Boyle >Law Building >504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >Champaign, IL 61820 USA >217-333-7954(voice) >217-244-1478(fax) >fboyle at law.uiuc.edu > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Boyle, Francis >Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 8:24 AM >To: 'BValer at aol.com'; irtheory at listbot.com >Cc: schaub+ at pitt.edu >Subject: RE: Democracy, War, and Covert Action > > >The International Relations Theory List > >--------------------------- ListBot Sponsor -------------------------- >Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >because of the Zinnes-Seitz CIA contract, the CIA perverted and corrupted >the entire Political Science Department at the University of Illinois. The >same happens elsewhere. fab. > >Francis A. Boyle >Law Building >504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >Champaign, IL 61820 USA >217-333-7954(voice) >217-244-1478(fax) >fboyle at law.uiuc.edu > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: irtheory-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 18 00:30:22 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 00:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 120 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2144520104.300356.1474158622750@mail.yahoo.com> I agree with CGE...but for different reasons.On the surface how could one refuse this request to embrace the demands by BSFRUIUC On the surface that would be blatantly racist.... I'm not a racist, as I'm not a NeoNazi who I think are racists.I don't even like the term 'white nationalist'...how about white identity.But I think the request should be looked at as an educational experience.I've lived in CU since 1973 and have been aware of the Channing Murray Center...for decades.But I did a little checking...Karen Medina, who I think is a very thoughtful and dedicated social justice person is a board member.Well, I did a bit of checking into Channing Murray to see if I could find some roots to "Cultural Marxism".It only took 5 minutes to find it.Karen is on the Board of Governors of the Channing Murray organization...I did not know that.Then go to Claire Szoke's page to find: "Channing-Murray is a campus-community center guided by Unitarian-Universalist values"Then I found this from a William R. Murry speech to the Unitarian Universalist Association General Assembly 2000 "It (UU) must be emphatically committed to women's rights and equality, to gay rights and equality, to economic justice and to opposing racism. Humanism is by definition truly committed to human well being, and that means we must be socially responsible and active in the work of justice. (Cultural Marxism)"http://www.sullivan-county.com/deism/unitarian2.htm WellCultural Marxism (Frankfurt School) was founded by the following Jewish Marxist gentleman (listed below) in the 1920's. They were kicked out of Germany by Hitler and settled in at Columbia University. They were kicked out because their atheism/communism/socialism was a threat to the Christian culture of Germany by the German people.Frankfurt School - - Max Horkheimer, Theodor Adorno, Wilhelm Reich, Eric Fromm and Herbert Marcuse Since that time, they have developed Critical Theory (w/Freud), which is a mainstay social science subject at most universities in the US, including UIUC.It's goal originally was to undermine/destroy white European/American culture through various means in order to advance Marxism. They've sugar-coated it with all sorts of witty prose, but it's still the same. (mass immigration and diversity, unless you're Palestinian)Considering how nice a person Karen Medina seems, I find it hard to believe that she could be associated with such dastardly deeds, ... what's wrong? Surely I have something wrong, but not one of the facts I mention in this is in the least bit inaccurate.Well Marxism is emphatically defunct, but Critical Theory and Cultural Marxism) remains on course, as does mass immigration policies (Cultural Marxism terrorism) of Clinton/Obama/Soros/and all their major bulge bracket Jewish bankster buddies.  If anyone can find fault in my logic or facts ...please let me know.We live in the age of the internet...where things that are supposed to be hidden find the light of day.Please, oh please, someone come to Karen's defense and prove me wrong.I'm much more anti-Zionist than pro white....but when assaulted, I have to defend myself. On Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider    supporting the       13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC (Carl G. Estabrook)   2. Re: The Ed Norton Professor of Law versus Darth    Smarr!       (Boyle, Francis A) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 22:35:28 -0500 From: "Carl G. Estabrook" To: Peace-discuss List Cc: "Brussel, Morton K" , peace     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider     supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC Message-ID: <5ECD57AA-756F-45C4-BCA2-7EC3520B1FB7 at illinois.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose):     "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature.     "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people.     "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. . AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: >> >> Dear Peace-Discuss, >> >> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. >> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands >> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) >> -- karen medina >> ------------------------------- >> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >> 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. >> 3. >> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. >> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. >> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. >> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. >> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >> >> List of Endorsing Local Organizations >> ​ >>     • Black Students for Revolution >> >>     • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine >> >>     • Planner’s Network >> >>     • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan >> >>     • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee >> >>     • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support >> >>     • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates >> >>     • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization >> >>     • MSU - Mixed Student Union >> >>     • Women of Pride >> >>     • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana >> >>     • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois >> >>     • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective >> >>     • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice >> >>     • Men of Impact* >> >>     • Students Against Sexual Assault >> >>     • My Sister’s Keeper* >> >>     • STEM Boycotts the War Machine >> >>     • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization >> >>     • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS >> >>     • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect >> >>     • ASA - Arab Student Association >> >>     • UIUC Beyond Coal >> >>     • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 18:04:20 +0000 From: "Boyle, Francis A" To: "'chicago at worldcantwait.net'" ,     "'Amanda Bass'" , "'C. G. Estabrook'"     , "'C. G. Estabrook'" ,     "'Peace Discuss'" , "'David Johnson'"     , "'Stuart Levy'"     , "'Karen Medina'" ,     "Szoke, Ron" , "'Mildred O'brien'"     , "'peace at lists.chambana.net'"     , "'davegreen84 at yahoo.com'"     , "Readel, Karin" ,     "Estabrook, Carl G" , "'Belden Fields'"     , "'jmachota at shout.net'" ,     "'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List'"     , "'Bryan Savage'" ,     "Hoffman, Valerie J" , "Miller, Joseph Thomas"     , "'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com'"     , "'David Swanson'"     , "'Karen Aram'" Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] The Ed Norton Professor of Law versus     Darth    Smarr! Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" And speaking of the Political Science Department, the later  Chair Peter Nardulli and this idiot PoliSci Prof. Paul Diehl filed a formal Complaint with the Dean of the Law School and all  other University Big Wigs because I had publicly criticized the CIA/Zinnes/Seitz  Contract in the Political Science Department, demanding that I be sanctioned. Jeff already circulated that Panel with Belden and me on there debating against the CIA/Seitz/Zinnes. They all got a response along the lines of my apology that was demanded by Manny Donchin, Chair of our CIA Pseudo-Shrinks Spooks Department. A whistleblower in the Polisci department informed me (1) that  basically the entire Policsci department was on the take of the CIA, and (2) that after we had blown the whistle on them all, the Department of Defense bought out the CIA/Zinnes/Seitz contract. Sunlight is  the best disinfectant for  CIA Academic Lice on Campus like Nardulli, Deal, Seitz, Zinnes, and Donchin et al. Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law Harvard: AM and PHD in Political Science Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:40 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: The Ed Norton Professor of Law versus Darth Smarr! Some of you may have seen the  Local Section of the News Gazette today  with a color picture of "Larry Smarr, founding director of the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at Illinois...as part of Friday's celebration of the NCSA's 30th anniversary in Urbana." One of the very  first public lectures I ever gave here on campus was over at  the Illini Union  in support of the Ratification of the SALT II Treaty at the request of Larry Smarr. Larry then asked me to join the Prairie Alliance against Nuclear Arms and I worked with them for a number of years. Eventually Larry was appointed the first NCSA Director but of course the BIG U told Larry he was going to have to cut out his anti-nuclear work, which he did.. Well ok. So it goes in academia. But then some  sicko professor in the political science department (except for Belden, how many of them are not?) decided to put in a grant to use the NCSA supercomputer in order to develop a program for designing  the next generation of ICBM nuclear weapons delivery devices, making the NCSA the "cutting edge" of the nuclear arms race. And Larry Smarr wrote a strong letter in support of this sick and demented proposal-I read it. So Larry Smarr and his NCSA personally become the "cutting edge" of the nuclear arms race. Thus Larry Smarr turned to the Dark Side and transformed himself into Darth Smarr--where he still resides today. Go home Darth Smarr! Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law [Boylebookemail.JPG] Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Estabrook) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 19:57:43 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 120 In-Reply-To: <2144520104.300356.1474158622750@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2144520104.300356.1474158622750@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <31BBF343-664D-4E61-A458-33A72BFD7327@newsfromneptune.com> “Paranoia: Chronic psychosis characterised by more or less systematised delusion, with a predominance of ideas of reference but with no weakening of the intellect and, generally speaking, no tendency towards deterioration.” --Laplanche, Jean; Pontalis, Jean-Bertrand, 1973: “The Language of Psychoanalysis” > On Sep 17, 2016, at 7:30 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: > > I agree with CGE... > but for different reasons. > On the surface how could one refuse this request to embrace the demands by BSFRUIUC > On the surface that would be blatantly racist.... I'm not a racist, as I'm not a NeoNazi who I think are racists. > I don't even like the term 'white nationalist'...how about white identity. > But I think the request should be looked at as an educational experience. > I've lived in CU since 1973 and have been aware of the Channing Murray Center...for decades. > But I did a little checking... > Karen Medina, who I think is a very thoughtful and dedicated social justice person is a board member. > Well, I did a bit of checking into Channing Murray to see if I could find some roots to "Cultural Marxism". > It only took 5 minutes to find it. > Karen is on the Board of Governors of the Channing Murray organization...I did not know that. > Then go to Claire Szoke's page to find: "Channing-Murray is a campus-community center guided by Unitarian-Universalist values" > Then I found this from a William R. Murry speech to the Unitarian Universalist Association General Assembly 2000 > > "It (UU) must be emphatically committed to women's rights and equality, to gay rights and equality, to economic justice and to opposing racism. Humanism is by definition truly committed to human well being, and that means we must be socially responsible and active in the work of justice. (Cultural Marxism)" > http://www.sullivan-county.com/deism/unitarian2.htm > > Well > Cultural Marxism (Frankfurt School) was founded by the following Jewish Marxist gentleman (listed below) in the 1920's. They were kicked out of Germany by Hitler and settled in at Columbia University. They were kicked out because their atheism/communism/socialism was a threat to the Christian culture of Germany by the German people. > Frankfurt School - - Max Horkheimer, Theodor Adorno, Wilhelm Reich, Eric Fromm and Herbert Marcuse > > Since that time, they have developed Critical Theory (w/Freud), which is a mainstay social science subject at most universities in the US, including UIUC. > It's goal originally was to undermine/destroy white European/American culture through various means in order to advance Marxism. They've sugar-coated it with all sorts of witty prose, but it's still the same. (mass immigration and diversity, unless you're Palestinian) > Considering how nice a person Karen Medina seems, I find it hard to believe that she could be associated with such dastardly deeds, ... what's wrong? Surely I have something wrong, but not one of the facts I mention in this is in the least bit inaccurate. > Well Marxism is emphatically defunct, but Critical Theory and Cultural Marxism) remains on course, as does mass immigration policies (Cultural Marxism terrorism) of Clinton/Obama/Soros/and all their major bulge bracket Jewish bankster buddies. > > If anyone can find fault in my logic or facts ...please let me know. > We live in the age of the internet...where things that are supposed to be hidden find the light of day. > Please, oh please, someone come to Karen's defense and prove me wrong. > I'm much more anti-Zionist than pro white....but when assaulted, I have to defend myself. > > > On Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: > > > Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the > 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC (Carl G. Estabrook) > 2. Re: The Ed Norton Professor of Law versus Darth Smarr! > (Boyle, Francis A) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 22:35:28 -0500 > From: "Carl G. Estabrook" > To: Peace-discuss List > Cc: "Brussel, Morton K" , peace > > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider > supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > Message-ID: <5ECD57AA-756F-45C4-BCA2-7EC3520B1FB7 at illinois.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. > > The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? > > But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? > A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ > I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. > > The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). > See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): > > "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. > "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. > "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . > > It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) > It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. > . > > AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. > And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. > > I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE > > > >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: > >> > >> Dear Peace-Discuss, > >> > >> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. > >> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands > >> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) > >> -- karen medina > >> ------------------------------- > >> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. > >> 2. WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. > >> 3. WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. > >> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. > >> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. > >> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. > >> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality > >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. > >> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. > >> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. > >> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. > >> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). > >> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. > >> > >> List of Endorsing Local Organizations > >> ​ > >> • Black Students for Revolution > >> > >> • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine > >> > >> • Planner’s Network > >> > >> • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan > >> > >> • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee > >> > >> • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support > >> > >> • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates > >> > >> • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization > >> > >> • MSU - Mixed Student Union > >> > >> • Women of Pride > >> > >> • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana > >> > >> • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois > >> > >> • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective > >> > >> • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice > >> > >> • Men of Impact* > >> > >> • Students Against Sexual Assault > >> > >> • My Sister’s Keeper* > >> > >> • STEM Boycotts the War Machine > >> > >> • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization > >> > >> • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS > >> > >> • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect > >> > >> • ASA - Arab Student Association > >> > >> • UIUC Beyond Coal > >> > >> • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Peace mailing list > >> Peace at lists.chambana.net > >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 18 01:03:47 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 01:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 120 In-Reply-To: <31BBF343-664D-4E61-A458-33A72BFD7327@newsfromneptune.com> References: <2144520104.300356.1474158622750@mail.yahoo.com> <31BBF343-664D-4E61-A458-33A72BFD7327@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: <1024401200.331112.1474160627314@mail.yahoo.com> Freud (Jewish) and his psychoanalysis has been thoroughly proven to be scientifically unsupportable. No data to back it up. It worked because the Zionist media made it work until it fell under its own weight. On Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:57 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: “Paranoia: Chronic psychosis characterised by more or less systematised delusion, with a predominance of ideas of reference but with no weakening of the intellect and, generally speaking, no tendency towards deterioration.” --Laplanche, Jean; Pontalis, Jean-Bertrand, 1973: “The Language of Psychoanalysis” > On Sep 17, 2016, at 7:30 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: > > I agree with CGE... > but for different reasons. > On the surface how could one refuse this request to embrace the demands by BSFRUIUC > On the surface that would be blatantly racist.... I'm not a racist, as I'm not a NeoNazi who I think are racists. > I don't even like the term 'white nationalist'...how about white identity. > But I think the request should be looked at as an educational experience. > I've lived in CU since 1973 and have been aware of the Channing Murray Center...for decades. > But I did a little checking... > Karen Medina, who I think is a very thoughtful and dedicated social justice person is a board member. > Well, I did a bit of checking into Channing Murray to see if I could find some roots to "Cultural Marxism". > It only took 5 minutes to find it. > Karen is on the Board of Governors of the Channing Murray organization...I did not know that. > Then go to Claire Szoke's page to find: "Channing-Murray is a campus-community center guided by Unitarian-Universalist values" > Then I found this from a William R. Murry speech to the Unitarian Universalist Association General Assembly 2000 > > "It (UU) must be emphatically committed to women's rights and equality, to gay rights and equality, to economic justice and to opposing racism. Humanism is by definition truly committed to human well being, and that means we must be socially responsible and active in the work of justice. (Cultural Marxism)" > http://www.sullivan-county.com/deism/unitarian2.htm > > Well > Cultural Marxism (Frankfurt School) was founded by the following Jewish Marxist gentleman (listed below) in the 1920's. They were kicked out of Germany by Hitler and settled in at Columbia University. They were kicked out because their atheism/communism/socialism was a threat to the Christian culture of Germany by the German people. > Frankfurt School - - Max Horkheimer, Theodor Adorno, Wilhelm Reich, Eric Fromm and Herbert Marcuse > > Since that time, they have developed Critical Theory (w/Freud), which is a mainstay social science subject at most universities in the US, including UIUC. > It's goal originally was to undermine/destroy white European/American culture through various means in order to advance Marxism. They've sugar-coated it with all sorts of witty prose, but it's still the same. (mass immigration and diversity, unless you're Palestinian) > Considering how nice a person Karen Medina seems, I find it hard to believe that she could be associated with such dastardly deeds, ... what's wrong? Surely I have something wrong, but not one of the facts I mention in this is in the least bit inaccurate. > Well Marxism is emphatically defunct, but Critical Theory and Cultural Marxism) remains on course, as does mass immigration policies (Cultural Marxism terrorism) of Clinton/Obama/Soros/and all their major bulge bracket Jewish bankster buddies. > > If anyone can find fault in my logic or facts ...please let me know. > We live in the age of the internet...where things that are supposed to be hidden find the light of day. > Please, oh please, someone come to Karen's defense and prove me wrong. > I'm much more anti-Zionist than pro white....but when assaulted, I have to defend myself. > > > On Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: > > > Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to >    peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >    https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >    peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at >    peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >  1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider    supporting the >      13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC (Carl G. Estabrook) >  2. Re: The Ed Norton Professor of Law versus Darth    Smarr! >      (Boyle, Francis A) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 22:35:28 -0500 > From: "Carl G. Estabrook" > To: Peace-discuss List > Cc: "Brussel, Morton K" , peace >    > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider >    supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > Message-ID: <5ECD57AA-756F-45C4-BCA2-7EC3520B1FB7 at illinois.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. > > The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? > > But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? > A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ > I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. > > The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). > See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): > >    "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. >    "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. >    "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . > > It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) > It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. > . > > AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. > And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. > > I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE > > > >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: > >> > >> Dear Peace-Discuss, > >> > >> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. > >> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands > >> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) > >> -- karen medina > >> ------------------------------- > >> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. > >> 2. WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. > >> 3. WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. > >> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. > >> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. > >> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. > >> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality > >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. > >> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. > >> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. > >> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. > >> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). > >> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. > >> > >> List of Endorsing Local Organizations > >> ​ > >>    • Black Students for Revolution > >> > >>    • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine > >> > >>    • Planner’s Network > >> > >>    • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan > >> > >>    • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee > >> > >>    • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support > >> > >>    • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates > >> > >>    • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization > >> > >>    • MSU - Mixed Student Union > >> > >>    • Women of Pride > >> > >>    • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana > >> > >>    • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois > >> > >>    • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective > >> > >>    • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice > >> > >>    • Men of Impact* > >> > >>    • Students Against Sexual Assault > >> > >>    • My Sister’s Keeper* > >> > >>    • STEM Boycotts the War Machine > >> > >>    • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization > >> > >>    • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS > >> > >>    • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect > >> > >>    • ASA - Arab Student Association > >> > >>    • UIUC Beyond Coal > >> > >>    • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Peace mailing list > >> Peace at lists.chambana.net > >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mickalideh at gmail.com Sun Sep 18 04:46:06 2016 From: mickalideh at gmail.com (Harry Mickalide) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 23:46:06 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC In-Reply-To: <5ECD57AA-756F-45C4-BCA2-7EC3520B1FB7@illinois.edu> References: <908112D8-8292-42F1-9265-F4F3DC74C276@illinois.edu> <5ECD57AA-756F-45C4-BCA2-7EC3520B1FB7@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Allow me to address two of Carl's concerns. 1) The demands are not just being pursued by a loud minority, but are supported by an extensive list of campus organizations which are listed in Karen's original email. The student activist community as a whole has rallied around the list of demands. 2) We do not have to speculate if these demands critique US war-making because the full text of demand 13, the divestment demand, explicitly calls on the university to divest from "corporations which actively support or enable states currently carrying out human right’s abuses (e.g., Israel, Saudi Arabia, Myanmar), all private prison corporations, and all private military contractors and weapons manufacturers." -Harry On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace < peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, > online and perhaps in several meetings. > > The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's > antiwar remit? > > But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know > of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? > A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by > ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ > I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ > came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. > > The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and > provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). > See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat > clotted prose): > > "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it > is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is > the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in > which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. > "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the > critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto > equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into > groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we > do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that > moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the > resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, > 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions > were LGBT people. > "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses > more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves > candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in > service to, the ruling class” reed-identity-politics-is-neoliberalism/>. > > It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise > from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces > killers?) > It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class > conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since > WWII, we should be clear about causes. > in-37-nations-since-wwii/>. > > AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and > why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world > today. > And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. > > I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. > —CGE > > > >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace < > peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > >> > >> Dear Peace-Discuss, > >> > >> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black > Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if > AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. > >> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands > >> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) > >> -- karen medina > >> ------------------------------- > >> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. > >> 2. > >> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, > faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois > by 2032. > >> 3. > >> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those > affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms > of sexual violence. > >> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate > or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition > to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies > programs. > >> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based > demographics as an official population. > >> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all > university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and > trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding > with the less expensive standard housing option. > >> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review > the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct > gender and race-based pay inequality > >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and > subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. > >> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months > of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. > >> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire > directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the > surrounding communities. > >> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this > campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. > >> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment > policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). > >> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and > comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from > socially and politically negligent corporations. > >> > >> List of Endorsing Local Organizations > >> ​ > >> • Black Students for Revolution > >> > >> • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine > >> > >> • Planner’s Network > >> > >> • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan > >> > >> • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee > >> > >> • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support > >> > >> • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates > >> > >> • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization > >> > >> • MSU - Mixed Student Union > >> > >> • Women of Pride > >> > >> • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana > >> > >> • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois > >> > >> • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective > >> > >> • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice > >> > >> • Men of Impact* > >> > >> • Students Against Sexual Assault > >> > >> • My Sister’s Keeper* > >> > >> • STEM Boycotts the War Machine > >> > >> • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization > >> > >> • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS > >> > >> • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect > >> > >> • ASA - Arab Student Association > >> > >> • UIUC Beyond Coal > >> > >> • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Peace mailing list > >> Peace at lists.chambana.net > >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Sun Sep 18 12:20:23 2016 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 07:20:23 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC In-Reply-To: References: <908112D8-8292-42F1-9265-F4F3DC74C276@illinois.edu> <5ECD57AA-756F-45C4-BCA2-7EC3520B1FB7@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <7925EF4D-AAC6-4044-AA0A-C28525D09C87@illinois.edu> Harry— 1.) Who organized BSFR and wrote these demands? What are their politics? 2.) Even the 'full text of demand 13’ falls short of AWARE’s call for the end of US offensive military operations, from the Obama-Clinton administration’s attacks on eight countries (Bush only attacked six) to Obama’s drone assassination program, which Noam Chomsky has called “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times,” and the activities - in more than half the countries of the world - of the US ’secret army’, the 70,000-member Special Operations Command; for bringing home all US troops abroad; and for the closing of the 1,000 US military bases in foreign countries. Does BSFR endorse AWARE’s demands? Regards, Carl > On Sep 17, 2016, at 11:46 PM, Harry Mickalide wrote: > > Allow me to address two of Carl's concerns. > > 1) The demands are not just being pursued by a loud minority, but are supported by an extensive list of campus organizations which are listed in Karen's original email. The student activist community as a whole has rallied around the list of demands. > > 2) We do not have to speculate if these demands critique US war-making because the full text of demand 13, the divestment demand, explicitly calls on the university to divest from "corporations which actively support or enable states currently carrying out human right’s abuses (e.g., Israel, Saudi Arabia, Myanmar), all private prison corporations, and all private military contractors and weapons manufacturers." > > -Harry > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace > wrote: > I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. > > The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? > > But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? > A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ > I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. > > The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). > See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): > > "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. > "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. > "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” >. > > It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) > It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. > >. > > AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. > And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. > > I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE > > > >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Peace-Discuss, > >> > >> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. > >> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands > >> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) > >> -- karen medina > >> ------------------------------- > >> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. > >> 2. > >> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. > >> 3. > >> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. > >> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. > >> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. > >> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. > >> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality > >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. > >> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. > >> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. > >> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. > >> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). > >> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. > >> > >> List of Endorsing Local Organizations > >> ​ > >> • Black Students for Revolution > >> > >> • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine > >> > >> • Planner’s Network > >> > >> • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan > >> > >> • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee > >> > >> • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support > >> > >> • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates > >> > >> • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization > >> > >> • MSU - Mixed Student Union > >> > >> • Women of Pride > >> > >> • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana > >> > >> • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois > >> > >> • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective > >> > >> • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice > >> > >> • Men of Impact* > >> > >> • Students Against Sexual Assault > >> > >> • My Sister’s Keeper* > >> > >> • STEM Boycotts the War Machine > >> > >> • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization > >> > >> • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS > >> > >> • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect > >> > >> • ASA - Arab Student Association > >> > >> • UIUC Beyond Coal > >> > >> • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Peace mailing list > >> Peace at lists.chambana.net > >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Sun Sep 18 14:04:36 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 09:04:36 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC In-Reply-To: References: <908112D8-8292-42F1-9265-F4F3DC74C276@illinois.edu> <5ECD57AA-756F-45C4-BCA2-7EC3520B1FB7@illinois.edu> <7925EF4D-AAC6-4044-AA0A-C28525D09C87@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Good morning, Roger. Noble of you to bring enlightenment to the misled masses. > On Sep 18, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Roger Helbig wrote: > > Chomsky is a fool - so are you > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 5:20 AM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > wrote: >> Harry— >> >> 1.) Who organized BSFR and wrote these demands? What are their politics? >> >> 2.) Even the 'full text of demand 13’ falls short of AWARE’s call for the >> end of US offensive military operations, from the Obama-Clinton >> administration’s attacks on eight countries (Bush only attacked six) to >> Obama’s drone assassination program, which Noam Chomsky has called “the most >> extreme terrorist campaign of modern times,” and the activities - in more >> than half the countries of the world - of the US ’secret army’, the >> 70,000-member Special Operations Command; for bringing home all US troops >> abroad; and for the closing of the 1,000 US military bases in foreign >> countries. >> >> Does BSFR endorse AWARE’s demands? >> >> Regards, Carl >> >> >> On Sep 17, 2016, at 11:46 PM, Harry Mickalide wrote: >> >> Allow me to address two of Carl's concerns. >> >> 1) The demands are not just being pursued by a loud minority, but are >> supported by an extensive list of campus organizations which are listed in >> Karen's original email. The student activist community as a whole has >> rallied around the list of demands. >> >> 2) We do not have to speculate if these demands critique US war-making >> because the full text of demand 13, the divestment demand, explicitly calls >> on the university to divest from "corporations which actively support or >> enable states currently carrying out human right’s abuses (e.g., Israel, >> Saudi Arabia, Myanmar), all private prison corporations, and all private >> military contractors and weapons manufacturers." >> >> -Harry >> >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace >> wrote: >>> >>> I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, >>> online and perhaps in several meetings. >>> >>> The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's >>> antiwar remit? >>> >>> But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know >>> of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? >>> A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by >>> ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ >>> I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ >>> came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. >>> >>> The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and >>> provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). >>> See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat >>> clotted prose): >>> >>> "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it >>> is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is >>> the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in >>> which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. >>> "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the >>> critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto >>> equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into >>> groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. >>> As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral >>> economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the >>> resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% >>> were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were >>> LGBT people. >>> "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses >>> more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves >>> candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in >>> service to, the ruling class” >>> . >>> >>> It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise >>> from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces >>> killers?) >>> It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class >>> conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since >>> WWII, we should be clear about causes. >>> >>> . >>> >>> AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and >>> why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world >>> today. >>> And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur >>> says. >>> >>> I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. >>> —CGE >>> >>> >>>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Peace-Discuss, >>>>> >>>>> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black >>>>> Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if >>>>> AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. >>>>> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands >>>>> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) >>>>> -- karen medina >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >>>>> 2. >>>>> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, >>>>> faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois >>>>> by 2032. >>>>> 3. >>>>> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those >>>>> affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms >>>>> of sexual violence. >>>>> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate >>>>> or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition >>>>> to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies >>>>> programs. >>>>> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based >>>>> demographics as an official population. >>>>> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all >>>>> university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and >>>>> trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding >>>>> with the less expensive standard housing option. >>>>> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review >>>>> the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct >>>>> gender and race-based pay inequality >>>>> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and >>>>> subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >>>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months >>>>> of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >>>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire >>>>> directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the >>>>> surrounding communities. >>>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this >>>>> campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >>>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment >>>>> policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >>>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and >>>>> comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially >>>>> and politically negligent corporations. >>>>> >>>>> List of Endorsing Local Organizations >>>>> >>>>> • Black Students for Revolution >>>>> >>>>> • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine >>>>> >>>>> • Planner’s Network >>>>> >>>>> • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan >>>>> >>>>> • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee >>>>> >>>>> • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support >>>>> >>>>> • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates >>>>> >>>>> • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization >>>>> >>>>> • MSU - Mixed Student Union >>>>> >>>>> • Women of Pride >>>>> >>>>> • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana >>>>> >>>>> • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois >>>>> >>>>> • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective >>>>> >>>>> • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice >>>>> >>>>> • Men of Impact* >>>>> >>>>> • Students Against Sexual Assault >>>>> >>>>> • My Sister’s Keeper* >>>>> >>>>> • STEM Boycotts the War Machine >>>>> >>>>> • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization >>>>> >>>>> • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS >>>>> >>>>> • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect >>>>> >>>>> • ASA - Arab Student Association >>>>> >>>>> • UIUC Beyond Coal >>>>> >>>>> • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Peace mailing list >>>>> Peace at lists.chambana.net >>>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Peace mailing list >>> Peace at lists.chambana.net >>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Sep 18 14:38:31 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 14:38:31 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] NYTimes: An Al Qaeda Martyr's Enduring Pitch:Anwar Al-Awlaki Message-ID: Yeah, thanks to Killer Koh, who personally approved his murder. Killer Koh is such an IDIOT and a die-hard BIGOT and RACIST against Muslims of Color that he had no idea he would turn Mr. Awlaki into a Martyr. Ditto for the Idiots and Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Muslims of Color at Yale Law Mafia School and Illinois Law Mafia School. Way to go Killer Koh! Way to go Yale Law Mafia! Way to go Illinois Law Mafia! Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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WE need to show the Champaign school Board that the Champaign-Urbana community supports our Teachers and demand that the school board negotiate in good faith and give the teachers a fair contract. PLEASE, come out and show your support this Tuesday, as the Champaign Teachers march from Central High School to the Mellon Administration Building to rally and continue their contract negotiations. AN INJURY TO ONE, IS AN INJURY TO ALL Please share this announcement ! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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WE need to show the Champaign school Board that the Champaign-Urbana community supports our Teachers and demand that the school board negotiate in good faith and give the teachers a fair contract. PLEASE, come out and show your support this Tuesday, as the Champaign Teachers march from Central High School to the Mellon Administration Building to rally and continue their contract negotiations. AN INJURY TO ONE, IS AN INJURY TO ALL Please share this announcement ! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Sun Sep 18 15:51:35 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 10:51:35 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 120 In-Reply-To: <1024401200.331112.1474160627314@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2144520104.300356.1474158622750@mail.yahoo.com> <31BBF343-664D-4E61-A458-33A72BFD7327@newsfromneptune.com> <1024401200.331112.1474160627314@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <011101d211c4$89546f40$9bfd4dc0$@comcast.net> Stephen, You must be a very lonely and bored person. This seems obvious since you don’t seem to have better things to do than to make pro-Fascist postings to the anti-war / anti-Fascist Peace Discus list. WE do not want to read your vile bullshit propaganda. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:04 PM To: C. G. Estabrook Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net; Stephen Francis Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 120 Freud (Jewish) and his psychoanalysis has been thoroughly proven to be scientifically unsupportable. No data to back it up. It worked because the Zionist media made it work until it fell under its own weight. On Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:57 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: “Paranoia: Chronic psychosis characterised by more or less systematised delusion, with a predominance of ideas of reference but with no weakening of the intellect and, generally speaking, no tendency towards deterioration.” --Laplanche, Jean; Pontalis, Jean-Bertrand, 1973: “The Language of Psychoanalysis” > On Sep 17, 2016, at 7:30 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: > > I agree with CGE... > but for different reasons. > On the surface how could one refuse this request to embrace the demands by BSFRUIUC > On the surface that would be blatantly racist.... I'm not a racist, as I'm not a NeoNazi who I think are racists. > I don't even like the term 'white nationalist'...how about white identity. > But I think the request should be looked at as an educational experience. > I've lived in CU since 1973 and have been aware of the Channing Murray Center...for decades. > But I did a little checking... > Karen Medina, who I think is a very thoughtful and dedicated social justice person is a board member. > Well, I did a bit of checking into Channing Murray to see if I could find some roots to "Cultural Marxism". > It only took 5 minutes to find it. > Karen is on the Board of Governors of the Channing Murray organization...I did not know that. > Then go to Claire Szoke's page to find: "Channing-Murray is a campus-community center guided by Unitarian-Universalist values" > Then I found this from a William R. Murry speech to the Unitarian Universalist Association General Assembly 2000 > > "It (UU) must be emphatically committed to women's rights and equality, to gay rights and equality, to economic justice and to opposing racism. Humanism is by definition truly committed to human well being, and that means we must be socially responsible and active in the work of justice. (Cultural Marxism)" > http://www.sullivan-county.com/deism/unitarian2.htm > > Well > Cultural Marxism (Frankfurt School) was founded by the following Jewish Marxist gentleman (listed below) in the 1920's. They were kicked out of Germany by Hitler and settled in at Columbia University. They were kicked out because their atheism/communism/socialism was a threat to the Christian culture of Germany by the German people. > Frankfurt School - - Max Horkheimer, Theodor Adorno, Wilhelm Reich, Eric Fromm and Herbert Marcuse > > Since that time, they have developed Critical Theory (w/Freud), which is a mainstay social science subject at most universities in the US, including UIUC. > It's goal originally was to undermine/destroy white European/American culture through various means in order to advance Marxism. They've sugar-coated it with all sorts of witty prose, but it's still the same. (mass immigration and diversity, unless you're Palestinian) > Considering how nice a person Karen Medina seems, I find it hard to believe that she could be associated with such dastardly deeds, ... what's wrong? Surely I have something wrong, but not one of the facts I mention in this is in the least bit inaccurate. > Well Marxism is emphatically defunct, but Critical Theory and Cultural Marxism) remains on course, as does mass immigration policies (Cultural Marxism terrorism) of Clinton/Obama/Soros/and all their major bulge bracket Jewish bankster buddies. > > If anyone can find fault in my logic or facts ...please let me know. > We live in the age of the internet...where things that are supposed to be hidden find the light of day. > Please, oh please, someone come to Karen's defense and prove me wrong. > I'm much more anti-Zionist than pro white....but when assaulted, I have to defend myself. > > > On Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: > > > Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the > 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC (Carl G. Estabrook) > 2. Re: The Ed Norton Professor of Law versus Darth Smarr! > (Boyle, Francis A) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 22:35:28 -0500 > From: "Carl G. Estabrook" > To: Peace-discuss List > Cc: "Brussel, Morton K" , peace > > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider > supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > Message-ID: <5ECD57AA-756F-45C4-BCA2-7EC3520B1FB7 at illinois.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. > > The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? > > But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? > A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ > I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. > > The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). > See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): > > "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. > "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. > "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . > > It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) > It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. > . > > AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. > And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. > > I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE > > > >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: > >> > >> Dear Peace-Discuss, > >> > >> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. > >> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands > >> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) > >> -- karen medina > >> ------------------------------- > >> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. > >> 2. WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. > >> 3. WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. > >> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. > >> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. > >> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. > >> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality > >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. > >> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. > >> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. > >> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. > >> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). > >> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. > >> > >> List of Endorsing Local Organizations > >> ​ > >> • Black Students for Revolution > >> > >> • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine > >> > >> • Planner’s Network > >> > >> • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan > >> > >> • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee > >> > >> • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support > >> > >> • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates > >> > >> • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization > >> > >> • MSU - Mixed Student Union > >> > >> • Women of Pride > >> > >> • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana > >> > >> • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois > >> > >> • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective > >> > >> • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice > >> > >> • Men of Impact* > >> > >> • Students Against Sexual Assault > >> > >> • My Sister’s Keeper* > >> > >> • STEM Boycotts the War Machine > >> > >> • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization > >> > >> • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS > >> > >> • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect > >> > >> • ASA - Arab Student Association > >> > >> • UIUC Beyond Coal > >> > >> • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Peace mailing list > >> Peace at lists.chambana.net > >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mickalideh at gmail.com Sun Sep 18 17:58:24 2016 From: mickalideh at gmail.com (Harry Mickalide) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:58:24 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC In-Reply-To: <7925EF4D-AAC6-4044-AA0A-C28525D09C87@illinois.edu> References: <908112D8-8292-42F1-9265-F4F3DC74C276@illinois.edu> <5ECD57AA-756F-45C4-BCA2-7EC3520B1FB7@illinois.edu> <7925EF4D-AAC6-4044-AA0A-C28525D09C87@illinois.edu> Message-ID: 1) The demands have been co-written among many groups. One of the lead organizers of the demands is my good friend Muhammad Yousuf, a member of Students for Justice in Palestine who is fiercely critical of America's military. 2) I will ask them if they support this demand and get back to you! On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 7:20 AM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: > Harry— > > 1.) Who organized BSFR and wrote these demands? What are their politics? > > 2.) Even the 'full text of demand 13’ falls short of AWARE’s call for the > end of US offensive military operations, from the Obama-Clinton > administration’s attacks on eight countries (Bush only attacked six) to > Obama’s drone assassination program, which Noam Chomsky has called “the > most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times,” and the activities - in > more than half the countries of the world - of the US ’secret army’, the > 70,000-member Special Operations Command; for bringing home all US troops > abroad; and for the closing of the 1,000 US military bases in foreign > countries. > > Does BSFR endorse AWARE’s demands? > > Regards, Carl > > > On Sep 17, 2016, at 11:46 PM, Harry Mickalide > wrote: > > Allow me to address two of Carl's concerns. > > 1) The demands are not just being pursued by a loud minority, but are > supported by an extensive list of campus organizations which are listed in > Karen's original email. The student activist community as a whole has > rallied around the list of demands. > > 2) We do not have to speculate if these demands critique US war-making > because the full text > of > demand 13, the divestment demand, explicitly calls on the university to > divest from "corporations which actively support or enable states > currently carrying out human right’s abuses (e.g., Israel, Saudi Arabia, > Myanmar), all private prison corporations, and all private military > contractors and weapons manufacturers." > > -Harry > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace < > peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > >> I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, >> online and perhaps in several meetings. >> >> The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's >> antiwar remit? >> >> But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know >> of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? >> A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by >> ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ >> I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ >> came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. >> >> The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and >> provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). >> See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat >> clotted prose): >> >> "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it >> is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is >> the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in >> which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. >> "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the >> critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto >> equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into >> groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we >> do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that >> moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the >> resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, >> 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions >> were LGBT people. >> "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses >> more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves >> candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in >> service to, the ruling class” > eed-identity-politics-is-neoliberalism/ >> >> >. >> >> It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise >> from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces >> killers?) >> It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class >> conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since >> WWII, we should be clear about causes. >> > 20-million-in-37-nations-since-wwii/ >> >> >. >> >> AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and >> why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world >> today. >> And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur >> says. >> >> I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that >> effort. —CGE >> >> >> >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace < >> peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> Dear Peace-Discuss, >> >> >> >> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the >> "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has >> asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the >> demands. >> >> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands >> >> >> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) >> >> -- karen medina >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >> >> 2. >> >> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, >> faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois >> by 2032. >> >> 3. >> >> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those >> affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms >> of sexual violence. >> >> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate >> or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition >> to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies >> programs. >> >> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based >> demographics as an official population. >> >> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all >> university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and >> trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding >> with the less expensive standard housing option. >> >> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review >> the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct >> gender and race-based pay inequality >> >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and >> subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >> >> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months >> of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >> >> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire >> directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the >> surrounding communities. >> >> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this >> campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >> >> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and >> employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >> >> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and >> comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from >> socially and politically negligent corporations. >> >> >> >> List of Endorsing Local Organizations >> >> ​ >> >> • Black Students for Revolution >> >> >> >> • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine >> >> >> >> • Planner’s Network >> >> >> >> • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan >> >> >> >> • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee >> >> >> >> • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support >> >> >> >> • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates >> >> >> >> • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization >> >> >> >> • MSU - Mixed Student Union >> >> >> >> • Women of Pride >> >> >> >> • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana >> >> >> >> • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois >> >> >> >> • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective >> >> >> >> • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice >> >> >> >> • Men of Impact* >> >> >> >> • Students Against Sexual Assault >> >> >> >> • My Sister’s Keeper* >> >> >> >> • STEM Boycotts the War Machine >> >> >> >> • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization >> >> >> >> • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS >> >> >> >> • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect >> >> >> >> • ASA - Arab Student Association >> >> >> >> • UIUC Beyond Coal >> >> >> >> • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Peace mailing list >> >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire. AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American racists." The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE > On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson wrote: > > Gus Wood is one of the founding members. > > They organized last Fall 2015 > > They have repeatedly in their public speeches ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). > > Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. > > Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. > > After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". > > The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. > Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. > > Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. > > David Johnson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM > To: David Johnson > Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu > Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > > Who are they and what's their history? > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson wrote: >> >> Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! >> >> I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. >> >> They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! >> >> They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. >> >> The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class >> based ; >> >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >>>> 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >> >> They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. >> >> They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. >> >> This is called " CLASS based intersectionality " as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. >> BIG difference ! >> >> For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. >> >> I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. >> Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. >> >> David Johnson >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of >> Carl G. Estabrook via Peace >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM >> To: Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace >> Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the >> 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC >> >> I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. >> >> The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? >> >> But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? >> A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ >> I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. >> >> The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). >> See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): >> >> "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. >> "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. >> "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . >> >> It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. >> . >> >> AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. >> And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. >> >> I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that >> effort. —CGE >> >> >>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Peace-Discuss, >>>> >>>> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. >>>> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands >>>> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting >>>> then) >>>> -- karen medina >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >>>> 2. >>>> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. >>>> 3. >>>> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. >>>> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. >>>> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. >>>> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. >>>> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review >>>> the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >>>> >>>> List of Endorsing Local Organizations ​ >>>> • Black Students for Revolution >>>> >>>> • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine >>>> >>>> • Planner’s Network >>>> >>>> • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan >>>> >>>> • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee >>>> >>>> • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support >>>> >>>> • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates >>>> >>>> • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization >>>> >>>> • MSU - Mixed Student Union >>>> >>>> • Women of Pride >>>> >>>> • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana >>>> >>>> • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois >>>> >>>> • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective >>>> >>>> • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice >>>> >>>> • Men of Impact* >>>> >>>> • Students Against Sexual Assault >>>> >>>> • My Sister’s Keeper* >>>> >>>> • STEM Boycotts the War Machine >>>> >>>> • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization >>>> >>>> • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS >>>> >>>> • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect >>>> >>>> • ASA - Arab Student Association >>>> >>>> • UIUC Beyond Coal >>>> >>>> • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Peace mailing list >>>> Peace at lists.chambana.net >>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 18 19:55:25 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 19:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 127 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <272959778.538238.1474228525751@mail.yahoo.com> No issue exists inside a vacuum.To analyze a situation, you need to look at all points of view, what are their motives, who supports them and the usual Qui Bono.I objected to the BSFRUIUC request because it is spearheaded by Karen Medina of Channing Murray, which I have shown to be backed by Unitarian Universalists who have deep ties to historical socialist/communist movements ('Red Herring" da). Ultimately, the well-being of African Americans is not their utmost concern.... promoting their (CMF) reputation is more important. Clearly there are racist organizations that would also oppose this:This quote below from the UofI "White Student Union" clearly puts them in the blatant racist category, which I easily distance myself from:from the News-Gazette:“We feel they disrupt student daily life and activity far too much. We are in the United States and not Africa and we don’t desire to have an African flag on campus,” the message said. The message said the university fails to protect the rights and free speech of white students and “marginalizes them.” If Students for Justice for Palestine supports this request rather than Channing Murray, I think it deserves consideration. but see this pic that was posted on BSFR Facebook page: "We're going to fight racism not with racism, but we're going to fight with solidarity. We say we're not going to fight capitalism with black capitalism, but we're going to fight it with socialism." - Fred HamptonIt's a political minefield out there. What appears on the surface is not as what it seems when you dig deeply. I have no idea who posted this or if it reflects the views of the administrators of this page.... but it's a clue that requires more investigation....  On Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider    supporting the       13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC (C. G. Estabrook) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:03:18 -0500 From: "C. G. Estabrook" To: David Johnson Cc: peace , Peace-discuss List     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider     supporting the 13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC Message-ID: <2F770B4C-7D53-4473-B519-9CC6F97956FD at newsfromneptune.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David— You suggest that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community.” That’s true if and only if the community is taken to be represented by Democratic liberals from Tammy Duckworth thru Mark Wicklund to Carol Ammons. AWARE rejects their objective support for Bush-Obama-Clinton war-making (see e.g. >). AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire. AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American racists." The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE > On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson wrote: > > Gus Wood is one of the founding members. > > They organized last Fall 2015 > > They have repeatedly in their public speeches  ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). > > Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. > > Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. > > After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". > > The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. > Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. > > Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. > > David Johnson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM > To: David Johnson > Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu > Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > > Who are they and what's their history? > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson wrote: >> >> Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! >> >> I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. >> >> They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! >> >> They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. >> >> The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class >> based ; >> >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >>>> 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >> >> They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. >> >> They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. >> >> This is called " CLASS based intersectionality "  as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. >> BIG difference ! >> >> For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. >> >> I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. >> Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. >> >> David Johnson >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of >> Carl G. Estabrook via Peace >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM >> To: Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace >> Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the >> 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC >> >> I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. >> >> The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? >> >> But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? >> A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ >> I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. >> >> The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). >> See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): >> >>  "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. >>  "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. >>  "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . >> >> It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. >> . >> >> AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. >> And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. >> >> I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that >> effort. —CGE >> >> >>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Peace-Discuss, >>>> >>>> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. >>>> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands >>>> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting >>>> then) >>>> -- karen medina >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >>>> 2. >>>> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. >>>> 3. >>>> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. >>>> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. >>>> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. >>>> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. >>>> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review >>>> the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >>>> >>>> List of Endorsing Local Organizations ​ >>>>  • Black Students for Revolution >>>> >>>>  • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine >>>> >>>>  • Planner’s Network >>>> >>>>  • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan >>>> >>>>  • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee >>>> >>>>  • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support >>>> >>>>  • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates >>>> >>>>  • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization >>>> >>>>  • MSU - Mixed Student Union >>>> >>>>  • Women of Pride >>>> >>>>  • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana >>>> >>>>  • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois >>>> >>>>  • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective >>>> >>>>  • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice >>>> >>>>  • Men of Impact* >>>> >>>>  • Students Against Sexual Assault >>>> >>>>  • My Sister’s Keeper* >>>> >>>>  • STEM Boycotts the War Machine >>>> >>>>  • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization >>>> >>>>  • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS >>>> >>>>  • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect >>>> >>>>  • ASA - Arab Student Association >>>> >>>>  • UIUC Beyond Coal >>>> >>>>  • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Peace mailing list >>>> Peace at lists.chambana.net >>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Saturday, September 17, 2016 11:47 PM, Harry Mickalide via Peace wrote: Allow me to address two of Carl's concerns. 1) The demands are not just being pursued by a loud minority, but are supported by an extensive list of campus organizations which are listed in Karen's original email. The student activist community as a whole has rallied around the list of demands. 2) We do not have to speculate if these demands critique US war-making because the full text of demand 13, the divestment demand, explicitly calls on the university to divest from  "corporations which actively support or enable states currently carrying out human right’s abuses (e.g., Israel, Saudi Arabia, Myanmar), all private prison corporations, and all private military contractors and weapons manufacturers." -Harry On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose):         "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature.         "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people.         "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. . AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: >> >> Dear Peace-Discuss, >> >> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. >> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our- demands >> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) >> -- karen medina >> ------------------------------ - >> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >> 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. >> 3. >> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. >> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. >> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. >> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. >> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >> >> List of Endorsing Local Organizations >> ​ >>      • Black Students for Revolution >> >>      • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine >> >>      • Planner’s Network >> >>      • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan >> >>      • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee >> >>      • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support >> >>      • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates >> >>      • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization >> >>      • MSU - Mixed Student Union >> >>      • Women of Pride >> >>      • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana >> >>      • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois >> >>      • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective >> >>      • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice >> >>      • Men of Impact* >> >>      • Students Against Sexual Assault >> >>      • My Sister’s Keeper* >> >>      • STEM Boycotts the War Machine >> >>      • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization >> >>      • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS >> >>      • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect >> >>      • ASA - Arab Student Association >> >>      • UIUC Beyond Coal >> >>      • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter >> >> >> ______________________________ _________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/ mailman/listinfo/peace > ______________________________ _________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/ mailman/listinfo/peace _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 18 20:42:50 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 127 In-Reply-To: <272959778.538238.1474228525751@mail.yahoo.com> References: <272959778.538238.1474228525751@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <295454631.550726.1474231370469@mail.yahoo.com> Modification:I considered supporting the BSFJUIUC because SJP would, who I assumed are major proponents of BDS but....as per my article, one has to dig deeply... andyou have to assume a organization that you support is guilty of being a controlled opposition'well, check this out... an article by Gilad Atzom (your favorite self-hating Jew) raising the possibility of BDS itself being controlled opposition...BDS Against George Galloway The BDS movement has compromised its position on the Right of Return...see below | | | | | | | | | | | BDS Against George Galloway By Gilad Atzmon With BDS, it’s never boring. Although formed initially to mount pressure on Israel, increas... | | | | But still, one question is still unresolved. Almost a year ago we discovered that BDS had compromised the most fundamental of Palestinian rights: the Right of Return. In an entirely underhand way the BDS National Committee had changed the wording of its mission statement from demanding that Israel endsIts occupation and colonization of all Arab lands(http://www.bdsmovement.net/call) all of this puts into question the real motives of SJP, BSFJ and BDS...It has been proven many times over that Hamas is a creation of Israel in order to control the Palestinian conflict.Hamas is a Creation of Mossad | | | Hamas is a Creation of Mossad content | | | On Sunday, September 18, 2016 3:55 PM, Stephen Francis wrote: No issue exists inside a vacuum.To analyze a situation, you need to look at all points of view, what are their motives, who supports them and the usual Qui Bono.I objected to the BSFRUIUC request because it is spearheaded by Karen Medina of Channing Murray, which I have shown to be backed by Unitarian Universalists who have deep ties to historical socialist/communist movements ('Red Herring" da). Ultimately, the well-being of African Americans is not their utmost concern.... promoting their (CMF) reputation is more important. Clearly there are racist organizations that would also oppose this:This quote below from the UofI "White Student Union" clearly puts them in the blatant racist category, which I easily distance myself from:from the News-Gazette:“We feel they disrupt student daily life and activity far too much. We are in the United States and not Africa and we don’t desire to have an African flag on campus,” the message said. The message said the university fails to protect the rights and free speech of white students and “marginalizes them.” If Students for Justice for Palestine supports this request rather than Channing Murray, I think it deserves consideration. but see this pic that was posted on BSFR Facebook page: "We're going to fight racism not with racism, but we're going to fight with solidarity. We say we're not going to fight capitalism with black capitalism, but we're going to fight it with socialism." - Fred HamptonIt's a political minefield out there. What appears on the surface is not as what it seems when you dig deeply. I have no idea who posted this or if it reflects the views of the administrators of this page.... but it's a clue that requires more investigation....  On Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider    supporting the       13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC (C. G. Estabrook) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:03:18 -0500 From: "C. G. Estabrook" To: David Johnson Cc: peace , Peace-discuss List     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider     supporting the 13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC Message-ID: <2F770B4C-7D53-4473-B519-9CC6F97956FD at newsfromneptune.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David— You suggest that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community.” That’s true if and only if the community is taken to be represented by Democratic liberals from Tammy Duckworth thru Mark Wicklund to Carol Ammons. AWARE rejects their objective support for Bush-Obama-Clinton war-making (see e.g. >). AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire. AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American racists." The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE > On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson wrote: > > Gus Wood is one of the founding members. > > They organized last Fall 2015 > > They have repeatedly in their public speeches  ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). > > Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. > > Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. > > After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". > > The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. > Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. > > Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. > > David Johnson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM > To: David Johnson > Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu > Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > > Who are they and what's their history? > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson wrote: >> >> Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! >> >> I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. >> >> They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! >> >> They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. >> >> The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class >> based ; >> >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >>>> 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >> >> They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. >> >> They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. >> >> This is called " CLASS based intersectionality "  as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. >> BIG difference ! >> >> For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. >> >> I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. >> Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. >> >> David Johnson >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of >> Carl G. Estabrook via Peace >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM >> To: Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace >> Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the >> 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC >> >> I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. >> >> The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? >> >> But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? >> A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ >> I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. >> >> The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). >> See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): >> >>  "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. >>  "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. >>  "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . >> >> It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. >> . >> >> AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. >> And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. >> >> I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that >> effort. —CGE >> >> >>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Peace-Discuss, >>>> >>>> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. >>>> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands >>>> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting >>>> then) >>>> -- karen medina >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >>>> 2. >>>> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. >>>> 3. >>>> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. >>>> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. >>>> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. >>>> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. >>>> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review >>>> the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >>>> >>>> List of Endorsing Local Organizations ​ >>>>  • Black Students for Revolution >>>> >>>>  • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine >>>> >>>>  • Planner’s Network >>>> >>>>  • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan >>>> >>>>  • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee >>>> >>>>  • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support >>>> >>>>  • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates >>>> >>>>  • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization >>>> >>>>  • MSU - Mixed Student Union >>>> >>>>  • Women of Pride >>>> >>>>  • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana >>>> >>>>  • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois >>>> >>>>  • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective >>>> >>>>  • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice >>>> >>>>  • Men of Impact* >>>> >>>>  • Students Against Sexual Assault >>>> >>>>  • My Sister’s Keeper* >>>> >>>>  • STEM Boycotts the War Machine >>>> >>>>  • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization >>>> >>>>  • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS >>>> >>>>  • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect >>>> >>>>  • ASA - Arab Student Association >>>> >>>>  • UIUC Beyond Coal >>>> >>>>  • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Peace mailing list >>>> Peace at lists.chambana.net >>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've been the head of SJP at UIUC for the past two years, and I'm also a co-author of the 13th demand on the list. I want to be very clear that these demands are fully endorsed by SJP, but AWARE's consideration of them should not be conditional on that fact. BSFR has been an incredibly strong organizing force on campus since their formation last year, and have deep ties to the local chapter of Black Lives Matter. These demands are specifically aimed at galvanizing a movement on campus to force the University to make changes which are necessary. To answer what seems to be Carl's main concern, we as a collective of organizations are completely anti-war and anti-imperialist in all forms. The reason the demands do not specifically mention this is because that is simply beyond the purview of what we aim to accomplish, i.e., a "transformed University". The changes which we seek to implement on campus are reflective of those which we think our society as a whole needs, but made to fit the specific needs of this University and its students, staff, and community members with intentional focus on the most marginalized of these groups. I sincerely hope you don't take us to be so foolish as to think we write off the role the US has had in propagating violence both within and outside this nations borders. Furthermore, SJP and the demands themselves are explicitly in support of the BDS movement and do not see this as a sort of "ethical capitalism" but rather as a first step to eventually deconstructing the militaristic structures which enable countries like the United States and Israel to exact their state-sanctioned terrorism around the world. I also view these accusations of identity politicking as hasty and disingenuous at best and seriously ignorant at worse. We are being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are. Of the 26 or so groups who have officially signed on to the demands, representatives of at least 10 of them were involved in the writing and research process. While I hope AWARE will come to the conclusion of endorsing the demands, we will not make room for the incredible rudeness and "holier-than-thou" rhetoric which this email thread is rife with. If you have specific questions or concerns on the wording or content of the demands, please communicate with BSFR (http://www.bsfruiuc.com/contact-us) or SJP (sjp.uiuc at gmail.com) directly rather than speculate on our behalves and on the behalf of all the co-signed groups.  Muhammad Yousuf On Sunday, September 18, 2016 3:44 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: Modification:I considered supporting the BSFJUIUC because SJP would, who I assumed are major proponents of BDS but....as per my article, one has to dig deeply... andyou have to assume a organization that you support is guilty of being a controlled opposition'well, check this out... an article by Gilad Atzom (your favorite self-hating Jew) raising the possibility of BDS itself being controlled opposition...BDS Against George Galloway The BDS movement has compromised its position on the Right of Return...see below | | | | | | | | | | | BDS Against George Galloway By Gilad Atzmon With BDS, it’s never boring. Although formed initially to mount pressure on Israel, increas... | | | | But still, one question is still unresolved. Almost a year ago we discovered that BDS had compromised the most fundamental of Palestinian rights: the Right of Return. In an entirely underhand way the BDS National Committee had changed the wording of its mission statement from demanding that Israel endsIts occupation and colonization of all Arab lands(http://www.bdsmovement.net/call) all of this puts into question the real motives of SJP, BSFJ and BDS...It has been proven many times over that Hamas is a creation of Israel in order to control the Palestinian conflict.Hamas is a Creation of Mossad | | | Hamas is a Creation of Mossad content | | | On Sunday, September 18, 2016 3:55 PM, Stephen Francis wrote: No issue exists inside a vacuum.To analyze a situation, you need to look at all points of view, what are their motives, who supports them and the usual Qui Bono.I objected to the BSFRUIUC request because it is spearheaded by Karen Medina of Channing Murray, which I have shown to be backed by Unitarian Universalists who have deep ties to historical socialist/communist movements ('Red Herring" da). Ultimately, the well-being of African Americans is not their utmost concern.... promoting their (CMF) reputation is more important. Clearly there are racist organizations that would also oppose this:This quote below from the UofI "White Student Union" clearly puts them in the blatant racist category, which I easily distance myself from:from the News-Gazette:“We feel they disrupt student daily life and activity far too much. We are in the United States and not Africa and we don’t desire to have an African flag on campus,” the message said. The message said the university fails to protect the rights and free speech of white students and “marginalizes them.” If Students for Justice for Palestine supports this request rather than Channing Murray, I think it deserves consideration. but see this pic that was posted on BSFR Facebook page: "We're going to fight racism not with racism, but we're going to fight with solidarity. We say we're not going to fight capitalism with black capitalism, but we're going to fight it with socialism." - Fred HamptonIt's a political minefield out there. What appears on the surface is not as what it seems when you dig deeply. I have no idea who posted this or if it reflects the views of the administrators of this page.... but it's a clue that requires more investigation....  On Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider    supporting the       13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC (C. G. Estabrook) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:03:18 -0500 From: "C. G. Estabrook" To: David Johnson Cc: peace , Peace-discuss List     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider     supporting the 13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC Message-ID: <2F770B4C-7D53-4473-B519-9CC6F97956FD at newsfromneptune.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David— You suggest that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community.” That’s true if and only if the community is taken to be represented by Democratic liberals from Tammy Duckworth thru Mark Wicklund to Carol Ammons. AWARE rejects their objective support for Bush-Obama-Clinton war-making (see e.g. >). AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire. AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American racists." The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE > On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson wrote: > > Gus Wood is one of the founding members. > > They organized last Fall 2015 > > They have repeatedly in their public speeches  ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). > > Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. > > Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. > > After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". > > The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. > Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. > > Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. > > David Johnson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM > To: David Johnson > Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu > Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > > Who are they and what's their history? > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson wrote: >> >> Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! >> >> I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. >> >> They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! >> >> They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. >> >> The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class >> based ; >> >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >>>> 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >> >> They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. >> >> They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. >> >> This is called " CLASS based intersectionality "  as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. >> BIG difference ! >> >> For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. >> >> I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. >> Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. >> >> David Johnson >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of >> Carl G. Estabrook via Peace >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM >> To: Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace >> Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the >> 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC >> >> I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. >> >> The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? >> >> But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? >> A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ >> I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. >> >> The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). >> See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): >> >>  "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. >>  "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. >>  "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . >> >> It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. >> . >> >> AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. >> And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. >> >> I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that >> effort. —CGE >> >> >>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Peace-Discuss, >>>> >>>> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. >>>> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands >>>> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting >>>> then) >>>> -- karen medina >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >>>> 2. >>>> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. >>>> 3. >>>> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. >>>> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. >>>> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. >>>> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. >>>> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review >>>> the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >>>> >>>> List of Endorsing Local Organizations ​ >>>>  • Black Students for Revolution >>>> >>>>  • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine >>>> >>>>  • Planner’s Network >>>> >>>>  • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan >>>> >>>>  • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee >>>> >>>>  • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support >>>> >>>>  • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates >>>> >>>>  • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization >>>> >>>>  • MSU - Mixed Student Union >>>> >>>>  • Women of Pride >>>> >>>>  • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana >>>> >>>>  • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois >>>> >>>>  • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective >>>> >>>>  • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice >>>> >>>>  • Men of Impact* >>>> >>>>  • Students Against Sexual Assault >>>> >>>>  • My Sister’s Keeper* >>>> >>>>  • STEM Boycotts the War Machine >>>> >>>>  • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization >>>> >>>>  • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS >>>> >>>>  • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect >>>> >>>>  • ASA - Arab Student Association >>>> >>>>  • UIUC Beyond Coal >>>> >>>>  • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Peace mailing list >>>> Peace at lists.chambana.net >>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From brussel at illinois.edu Mon Sep 19 04:19:33 2016 From: brussel at illinois.edu (Brussel, Morton K) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 04:19:33 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 127 In-Reply-To: <1932042648.824043.1474257878530@mail.yahoo.com> References: <272959778.538238.1474228525751@mail.yahoo.com> <295454631.550726.1474231370469@mail.yahoo.com> <1932042648.824043.1474257878530@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Demands display arrogance—are tone deaf, and unworkable, especially in the present context. You do not have the power to implement them. You need a better formulation. —mkb On Sep 18, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss > wrote: Hello all, I think some major clarification is needed. I've been the head of SJP at UIUC for the past two years, and I'm also a co-author of the 13th demand on the list. I want to be very clear that these demands are fully endorsed by SJP, but AWARE's consideration of them should not be conditional on that fact. BSFR has been an incredibly strong organizing force on campus since their formation last year, and have deep ties to the local chapter of Black Lives Matter. These demands are specifically aimed at galvanizing a movement on campus to force the University to make changes which are necessary. To answer what seems to be Carl's main concern, we as a collective of organizations are completely anti-war and anti-imperialist in all forms. The reason the demands do not specifically mention this is because that is simply beyond the purview of what we aim to accomplish, i.e., a "transformed University". The changes which we seek to implement on campus are reflective of those which we think our society as a whole needs, but made to fit the specific needs of this University and its students, staff, and community members with intentional focus on the most marginalized of these groups. I sincerely hope you don't take us to be so foolish as to think we write off the role the US has had in propagating violence both within and outside this nations borders. Furthermore, SJP and the demands themselves are explicitly in support of the BDS movement and do not see this as a sort of "ethical capitalism" but rather as a first step to eventually deconstructing the militaristic structures which enable countries like the United States and Israel to exact their state-sanctioned terrorism around the world. I also view these accusations of identity politicking as hasty and disingenuous at best and seriously ignorant at worse. We are being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are. Of the 26 or so groups who have officially signed on to the demands, representatives of at least 10 of them were involved in the writing and research process. While I hope AWARE will come to the conclusion of endorsing the demands, we will not make room for the incredible rudeness and "holier-than-thou" rhetoric which this email thread is rife with. If you have specific questions or concerns on the wording or content of the demands, please communicate with BSFR (http://www.bsfruiuc.com/contact-us) or SJP (sjp.uiuc at gmail.com) directly rather than speculate on our behalves and on the behalf of all the co-signed groups. Muhammad Yousuf On Sunday, September 18, 2016 3:44 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: Modification: I considered supporting the BSFJUIUC because SJP would, who I assumed are major proponents of BDS but.... as per my article, one has to dig deeply... and you have to assume a organization that you support is guilty of being a controlled opposition' well, check this out... an article by Gilad Atzom (your favorite self-hating Jew) raising the possibility of BDS itself being controlled opposition... BDS Against George Galloway The BDS movement has compromised its position on the Right of Return...see below BDS Against George Galloway By Gilad Atzmon With BDS, it’s never boring. Although formed initially to mount pressure on Israel, increas... But still, one question is still unresolved. Almost a year ago we discovered that BDS had compromised the most fundamental of Palestinian rights: the Right of Return. In an entirely underhand way the BDS National Committee had changed the wording of its mission statement from demanding that Israel ends Its occupation and colonization of all Arab lands(http://www.bdsmovement.net/call) all of this puts into question the real motives of SJP, BSFJ and BDS... It has been proven many times over that Hamas is a creation of Israel in order to control the Palestinian conflict. Hamas is a Creation of Mossad Hamas is a Creation of Mossad content On Sunday, September 18, 2016 3:55 PM, Stephen Francis > wrote: No issue exists inside a vacuum. To analyze a situation, you need to look at all points of view, what are their motives, who supports them and the usual Qui Bono. I objected to the BSFRUIUC request because it is spearheaded by Karen Medina of Channing Murray, which I have shown to be backed by Unitarian Universalists who have deep ties to historical socialist/communist movements ('Red Herring" da). Ultimately, the well-being of African Americans is not their utmost concern.... promoting their (CMF) reputation is more important. Clearly there are racist organizations that would also oppose this: This quote below from the UofI "White Student Union" clearly puts them in the blatant racist category, which I easily distance myself from: from the News-Gazette: “We feel they disrupt student daily life and activity far too much. We are in the United States and not Africa and we don’t desire to have an African flag on campus,” the message said. The message said the university fails to protect the rights and free speech of white students and “marginalizes them.” If Students for Justice for Palestine supports this request rather than Channing Murray, I think it deserves consideration. but see this pic that was posted on BSFR Facebook page: "We're going to fight racism not with racism, but we're going to fight with solidarity. We say we're not going to fight capitalism with black capitalism, but we're going to fight it with socialism." - Fred Hampton It's a political minefield out there. What appears on the surface is not as what it seems when you dig deeply. I have no idea who posted this or if it reflects the views of the administrators of this page.... but it's a clue that requires more investigation.... [https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14212219_1785984578291964_5551753770523734134_n.jpg?oh=9a44399093c4e21730da0521515b1678&oe=58397964] On Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" > wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC (C. G. Estabrook) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:03:18 -0500 From: "C. G. Estabrook" > To: David Johnson > Cc: peace >, Peace-discuss List > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC Message-ID: <2F770B4C-7D53-4473-B519-9CC6F97956FD at newsfromneptune.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David— You suggest that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community.” That’s true if and only if the community is taken to be represented by Democratic liberals from Tammy Duckworth thru Mark Wicklund to Carol Ammons. AWARE rejects their objective support for Bush-Obama-Clinton war-making (see e.g. >>). AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire. AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American racists." The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE > On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson > wrote: > > Gus Wood is one of the founding members. > > They organized last Fall 2015 > > They have repeatedly in their public speeches ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). > > Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. > > Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. > > After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". > > The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. > Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. > > Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. > > David Johnson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM > To: David Johnson > Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu > Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > > Who are they and what's their history? > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson > wrote: >> >> Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! >> >> I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. >> >> They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! >> >> They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. >> >> The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class >> based ; >> >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >>>> 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >> >> They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. >> >> They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. >> >> This is called " CLASS based intersectionality " as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. >> BIG difference ! >> >> For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. >> >> I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. >> Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. >> >> David Johnson >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of >> Carl G. Estabrook via Peace >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM >> To: Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace >> Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the >> 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC >> >> I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. >> >> The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? >> >> But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? >> A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ >> I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. >> >> The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). >> See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): >> >> "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. >> "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. >> "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” >. >> >> It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. >> >. >> >> AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. >> And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. >> >> I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that >> effort. —CGE >> >> >>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace > wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Peace-Discuss, >>>> >>>> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. >>>> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands >>>> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting >>>> then) >>>> -- karen medina >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >>>> 2. >>>> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. >>>> 3. >>>> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. >>>> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. >>>> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. >>>> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. >>>> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review >>>> the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >>>> >>>> List of Endorsing Local Organizations ​ >>>> • Black Students for Revolution >>>> >>>> • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine >>>> >>>> • Planner’s Network >>>> >>>> • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan >>>> >>>> • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee >>>> >>>> • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support >>>> >>>> • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates >>>> >>>> • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization >>>> >>>> • MSU - Mixed Student Union >>>> >>>> • Women of Pride >>>> >>>> • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana >>>> >>>> • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois >>>> >>>> • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective >>>> >>>> • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice >>>> >>>> • Men of Impact* >>>> >>>> • Students Against Sexual Assault >>>> >>>> • My Sister’s Keeper* >>>> >>>> • STEM Boycotts the War Machine >>>> >>>> • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization >>>> >>>> • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS >>>> >>>> • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect >>>> >>>> • ASA - Arab Student Association >>>> >>>> • UIUC Beyond Coal >>>> >>>> • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Peace mailing list >>>> Peace at lists.chambana.net >>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Estabrook) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 00:11:28 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 127 In-Reply-To: <1932042648.824043.1474257878530@mail.yahoo.com> References: <272959778.538238.1474228525751@mail.yahoo.com> <295454631.550726.1474231370469@mail.yahoo.com> <1932042648.824043.1474257878530@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mr. Yousuf: AWARE ("Anti-war Anti-racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana”) was asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC. The suggestion has been discussed by email and at the regular Sunday night meeting of AWARE. Since its founding 15 years ago, AWARE has functioned by informal consensus rather than votes, and no vote was taken on the proposal, but there was no consensus that AWARE should add our name to the list of endorsers. The principal reason was the specificity of AWARE’s remit as an antiwar organization - and a corresponding reluctance to risk distraction from it. Several members of AWARE were also disturbed by the demands’ being couched in the terms of identity politics. The rhetoric of ‘intersectionality’ - “being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are” - seems an inadequate attempt to put the Humpty Dumpty of American liberalism back together again, after it’s fallen off the wall of class politics that was its base from the 1930s to the 1970s. (Neoliberalism pushed it, of course.) Since the Obama administration has enlarged the wars it was elected to end - and the new administration will probably do more of the same - AWARE welcomes support from BSFR and allied organizations in opposing and ending the international crimes of the government for which we are responsible - and which remains, as ML King said long ago, “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.” And we wish all those organizations success with the truly progressive campaigns they undertake in the university and the community. Regards, C. G. Estabrook > On Sep 18, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Hello all, > > I think some major clarification is needed. I've been the head of SJP at UIUC for the past two years, and I'm also a co-author of the 13th demand on the list. I want to be very clear that these demands are fully endorsed by SJP, but AWARE's consideration of them should not be conditional on that fact. BSFR has been an incredibly strong organizing force on campus since their formation last year, and have deep ties to the local chapter of Black Lives Matter. These demands are specifically aimed at galvanizing a movement on campus to force the University to make changes which are necessary. To answer what seems to be Carl's main concern, we as a collective of organizations are completely anti-war and anti-imperialist in all forms. The reason the demands do not specifically mention this is because that is simply beyond the purview of what we aim to accomplish, i.e., a "transformed University". The changes which we seek to implement on campus are reflective of those which we think our society as a whole needs, but made to fit the specific needs of this University and its students, staff, and community members with intentional focus on the most marginalized of these groups. I sincerely hope you don't take us to be so foolish as to think we write off the role the US has had in propagating violence both within and outside this nations borders. Furthermore, SJP and the demands themselves are explicitly in support of the BDS movement and do not see this as a sort of "ethical capitalism" but rather as a first step to eventually deconstructing the militaristic structures which enable countries like the United States and Israel to exact their state-sanctioned terrorism around the world. > > I also view these accusations of identity politicking as hasty and disingenuous at best and seriously ignorant at worse. We are being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are. Of the 26 or so groups who have officially signed on to the demands, representatives of at least 10 of them were involved in the writing and research process. While I hope AWARE will come to the conclusion of endorsing the demands, we will not make room for the incredible rudeness and "holier-than-thou" rhetoric which this email thread is rife with. If you have specific questions or concerns on the wording or content of the demands, please communicate with BSFR (http://www.bsfruiuc.com/contact-us) or SJP (sjp.uiuc at gmail.com) directly rather than speculate on our behalves and on the behalf of all the co-signed groups. > > Muhammad Yousuf > > > […] > > > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: > > > Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the > 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC (C. G. Estabrook) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:03:18 -0500 > From: "C. G. Estabrook" > To: David Johnson > Cc: peace , Peace-discuss List > > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider > supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > Message-ID: <2F770B4C-7D53-4473-B519-9CC6F97956FD at newsfromneptune.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > David— > > You suggest that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community.” That’s true if and only if the community is taken to be represented by Democratic liberals from Tammy Duckworth thru Mark Wicklund to Carol Ammons. AWARE rejects their objective support for Bush-Obama-Clinton war-making (see e.g. >). > > AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire. > > AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. > > The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: > > "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the > United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the > chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy > rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One > historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. > He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating > Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting > them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved > the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. > No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the > Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the > English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served > nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and > indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing > serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even > though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural > superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American > racists." > > The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE > > > > On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson wrote: > > > > Gus Wood is one of the founding members. > > > > They organized last Fall 2015 > > > > They have repeatedly in their public speeches ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). > > > > Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. > > > > Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. > > > > After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". > > > > The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. > > Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. > > > > Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. > > > > David Johnson > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM > > To: David Johnson > > Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu > > Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > > > > Who are they and what's their history? > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson wrote: > >> > >> Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! > >> > >> I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. > >> > >> They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! > >> > >> They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. > >> > >> The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class > >> based ; > >> > >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. > >>>> 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. > >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. > >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. > >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. > >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. > >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). > >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. > >> > >> They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. > >> > >> They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. > >> > >> This is called " CLASS based intersectionality " as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. > >> BIG difference ! > >> > >> For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. > >> > >> I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. > >> Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. > >> > >> David Johnson > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of > >> Carl G. Estabrook via Peace > >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM > >> To: Peace-discuss List > >> Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace > >> Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the > >> 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > >> > >> I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. > >> > >> The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? > >> > >> But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? > >> A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ > >> I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. > >> > >> The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). > >> See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): > >> > >> "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. > >> "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. > >> "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . > >> > >> It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. > >> . > >> > >> AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. > >> And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. > >> > >> I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE > >> > >> > >>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Peace-Discuss, > >>>> > >>>> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. > >>>> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands > >>>> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting > >>>> then) > >>>> -- karen medina > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. > >>>> 2. > >>>> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. > >>>> 3. > >>>> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. > >>>> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. > >>>> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. > >>>> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. > >>>> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review > >>>> the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. > >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. > >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. > >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. > >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). > >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. > >>>> > >>>> List of Endorsing Local Organizations ​ > >>>> • Black Students for Revolution > >>>> > >>>> • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine > >>>> > >>>> • Planner’s Network > >>>> > >>>> • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan > >>>> > >>>> • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee > >>>> > >>>> • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support > >>>> > >>>> • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates > >>>> > >>>> • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization > >>>> > >>>> • MSU - Mixed Student Union > >>>> > >>>> • Women of Pride > >>>> > >>>> • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana > >>>> > >>>> • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois > >>>> > >>>> • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective > >>>> > >>>> • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice > >>>> > >>>> • Men of Impact* > >>>> > >>>> • Students Against Sexual Assault > >>>> > >>>> • My Sister’s Keeper* > >>>> > >>>> • STEM Boycotts the War Machine > >>>> > >>>> • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization > >>>> > >>>> • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS > >>>> > >>>> • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect > >>>> > >>>> • ASA - Arab Student Association > >>>> > >>>> • UIUC Beyond Coal > >>>> > >>>> • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Peace mailing list > >>>> Peace at lists.chambana.net > >>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Peace mailing list > >> Peace at lists.chambana.net > >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > >> > > > > From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Sep 19 12:30:20 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 12:30:20 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 127 In-Reply-To: References: <272959778.538238.1474228525751@mail.yahoo.com> <295454631.550726.1474231370469@mail.yahoo.com> <1932042648.824043.1474257878530@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My recent discussions with David Johnson lend me to believe that the intent of the demands is to end discrimination against all, not just the privileged few, and to extend a “revolution” beyond the U of I. I understand the demands can not be rewritten however I would like to suggest an amendment be added. If a #14 demand was added as an amendment “we demand the U of I not support wars and militarization and ensure freedom of speech and truth be the goal of a university education.” I would gladly support it. On Sep 18, 2016, at 22:11, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > wrote: Mr. Yousuf: AWARE ("Anti-war Anti-racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana”) was asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC. The suggestion has been discussed by email and at the regular Sunday night meeting of AWARE. Since its founding 15 years ago, AWARE has functioned by informal consensus rather than votes, and no vote was taken on the proposal, but there was no consensus that AWARE should add our name to the list of endorsers. The principal reason was the specificity of AWARE’s remit as an antiwar organization - and a corresponding reluctance to risk distraction from it. Several members of AWARE were also disturbed by the demands’ being couched in the terms of identity politics. The rhetoric of ‘intersectionality’ - “being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are” - seems an inadequate attempt to put the Humpty Dumpty of American liberalism back together again, after it’s fallen off the wall of class politics that was its base from the 1930s to the 1970s. (Neoliberalism pushed it, of course.) Since the Obama administration has enlarged the wars it was elected to end - and the new administration will probably do more of the same - AWARE welcomes support from BSFR and allied organizations in opposing and ending the international crimes of the government for which we are responsible - and which remains, as ML King said long ago, “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.” And we wish all those organizations success with the truly progressive campaigns they undertake in the university and the community. Regards, C. G. Estabrook On Sep 18, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss > wrote: Hello all, I think some major clarification is needed. I've been the head of SJP at UIUC for the past two years, and I'm also a co-author of the 13th demand on the list. I want to be very clear that these demands are fully endorsed by SJP, but AWARE's consideration of them should not be conditional on that fact. BSFR has been an incredibly strong organizing force on campus since their formation last year, and have deep ties to the local chapter of Black Lives Matter. These demands are specifically aimed at galvanizing a movement on campus to force the University to make changes which are necessary. To answer what seems to be Carl's main concern, we as a collective of organizations are completely anti-war and anti-imperialist in all forms. The reason the demands do not specifically mention this is because that is simply beyond the purview of what we aim to accomplish, i.e., a "transformed University". The changes which we seek to implement on campus are reflective of those which we think our society as a whole needs, but made to fit the specific needs of this University and its students, staff, and community members with intentional focus on the most marginalized of these groups. I sincerely hope you don't take us to be so foolish as to think we write off the role the US has had in propagating violence both within and outside this nations borders. Furthermore, SJP and the demands themselves are explicitly in support of the BDS movement and do not see this as a sort of "ethical capitalism" but rather as a first step to eventually deconstructing the militaristic structures which enable countries like the United States and Israel to exact their state-sanctioned terrorism around the world. I also view these accusations of identity politicking as hasty and disingenuous at best and seriously ignorant at worse. We are being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are. Of the 26 or so groups who have officially signed on to the demands, representatives of at least 10 of them were involved in the writing and research process. While I hope AWARE will come to the conclusion of endorsing the demands, we will not make room for the incredible rudeness and "holier-than-thou" rhetoric which this email thread is rife with. If you have specific questions or concerns on the wording or content of the demands, please communicate with BSFR (http://www.bsfruiuc.com/contact-us) or SJP (sjp.uiuc at gmail.com) directly rather than speculate on our behalves and on the behalf of all the co-signed groups. Muhammad Yousuf […] On Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" > wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC (C. G. Estabrook) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:03:18 -0500 From: "C. G. Estabrook" > To: David Johnson > Cc: peace >, Peace-discuss List > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC Message-ID: <2F770B4C-7D53-4473-B519-9CC6F97956FD at newsfromneptune.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David— You suggest that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community.” That’s true if and only if the community is taken to be represented by Democratic liberals from Tammy Duckworth thru Mark Wicklund to Carol Ammons. AWARE rejects their objective support for Bush-Obama-Clinton war-making (see e.g. >). AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire. AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American racists." The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson > wrote: Gus Wood is one of the founding members. They organized last Fall 2015 They have repeatedly in their public speeches ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. David Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM To: David Johnson Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC Who are they and what's their history? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson > wrote: Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class based ; 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. This is called " CLASS based intersectionality " as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. BIG difference ! For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. David Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM To: Peace-discuss List Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. . AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace > wrote: Dear Peace-Discuss, At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) -- karen medina ------------------------------- 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. 2. WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. 3. WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. List of Endorsing Local Organizations ​ • Black Students for Revolution • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine • Planner’s Network • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization • MSU - Mixed Student Union • Women of Pride • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice • Men of Impact* • Students Against Sexual Assault • My Sister’s Keeper* • STEM Boycotts the War Machine • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect • ASA - Arab Student Association • UIUC Beyond Coal • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Mon Sep 19 13:05:14 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 08:05:14 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC In-Reply-To: <025701d2120f$d6995c70$83cc1550$@comcast.net> References: <908112D8-8292-42F1-9265-F4F3DC74C276@illinois.edu> <5ECD57AA-756F-45C4-BCA2-7EC3520B1FB7@illinois.edu> <002a01d210e8$54cb4370$fe61ca50$@comcast.net> <00fd01d211c3$37c97450$a75c5cf0$@comcast.net> <2F770B4C-7D53-4473-B519-9CC6F97956FD@newsfromneptune.com> <025701d2120f$d6995c70$83cc1550$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <69BCF34E-6D84-4EFB-97CC-7F8701B434B6@newsfromneptune.com> David— I answered this by asking how you would describe the community that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from.” But my answer seems to have got lost in cyberspace. The question remains. I tried to sketch what seems to me to be AWARE’s position in a note to Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss last night. I’d be interested in your response to that, too. Regards, Carl > On Sep 18, 2016, at 7:50 PM, David Johnson wrote: > > Carl, > > You know me fairly well, right ? > > Do you really think that is who I am referring to ? > > David J. > > From: C. G. Estabrook [mailto:carl at newsfromneptune.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 1:03 PM > To: David Johnson > Cc: Peace-discuss List; peace > Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > > David— > > You suggest that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community.” That’s true if and only if the community is taken to be represented by Democratic liberals from Tammy Duckworth thru Mark Wicklund to Carol Ammons. AWARE rejects their objective support for Bush-Obama-Clinton war-making (see e.g. ). > > AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire. > > AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. > > The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: > > "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the > United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the > chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy > rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One > historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. > He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating > Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting > them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved > the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. > No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the > Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the > English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served > nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and > indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing > serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even > though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural > superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American > racists." > > The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE > > >> On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson wrote: >> >> Gus Wood is one of the founding members. >> >> They organized last Fall 2015 >> >> They have repeatedly in their public speeches ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). >> >> Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. >> >> Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. >> >> After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". >> >> The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. >> Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. >> >> Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. >> >> David Johnson >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] >> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM >> To: David Johnson >> Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu >> Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC >> >> Who are they and what's their history? >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson wrote: >> >> Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! >> >> I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. >> >> They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! >> >> They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. >> >> The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class >> based ; >> >> >>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >>> 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >> >>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >> >> They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. >> >> They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. >> >> This is called " CLASS based intersectionality " as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. >> BIG difference ! >> >> For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. >> >> I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. >> Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. >> >> David Johnson >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of >> Carl G. Estabrook via Peace >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM >> To: Peace-discuss List >> Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace >> Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the >> 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC >> >> I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. >> >> The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? >> >> But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? >> A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ >> I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. >> >> The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). >> See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): >> >> "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. >> "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. >> "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . >> >> It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. >> . >> >> AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. >> And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. >> >> I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that >> effort. —CGE >> >> >> >>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: >>> >>> Dear Peace-Discuss, >>> >>> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. >>> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands >>> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting >>> then) >>> -- karen medina >>> ------------------------------- >>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >>> 2. >>> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. >>> 3. >>> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. >>> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. >>> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. >>> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. >>> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review >>> the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >>> >>> List of Endorsing Local Organizations ​ >>> • Black Students for Revolution >>> >>> • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine >>> >>> • Planner’s Network >>> >>> • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan >>> >>> • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee >>> >>> • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support >>> >>> • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates >>> >>> • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization >>> >>> • MSU - Mixed Student Union >>> >>> • Women of Pride >>> >>> • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana >>> >>> • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois >>> >>> • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective >>> >>> • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice >>> >>> • Men of Impact* >>> >>> • Students Against Sexual Assault >>> >>> • My Sister’s Keeper* >>> >>> • STEM Boycotts the War Machine >>> >>> • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization >>> >>> • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS >>> >>> • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect >>> >>> • ASA - Arab Student Association >>> >>> • UIUC Beyond Coal >>> >>> • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Peace mailing list >>> Peace at lists.chambana.net >>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Sep 19 13:21:08 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:21:08 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The "13 demands" question in relation to AWARE In-Reply-To: References: <272959778.538238.1474228525751@mail.yahoo.com> <295454631.550726.1474231370469@mail.yahoo.com> <1932042648.824043.1474257878530@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Resending with the proper subject title. On Sep 19, 2016, at 05:30, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: My recent discussions with David Johnson lend me to believe that the intent of the demands is to end discrimination against all, not just the privileged few, and to extend a “revolution” beyond the U of I. I understand the demands can not be rewritten however I would like to suggest an amendment be added. If a #14 demand was added as an amendment “we demand the U of I not support wars and militarization and ensure freedom of speech and truth be the goal of a university education.” I would gladly support it. On Sep 18, 2016, at 22:11, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > wrote: Mr. Yousuf: AWARE ("Anti-war Anti-racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana”) was asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC. The suggestion has been discussed by email and at the regular Sunday night meeting of AWARE. Since its founding 15 years ago, AWARE has functioned by informal consensus rather than votes, and no vote was taken on the proposal, but there was no consensus that AWARE should add our name to the list of endorsers. The principal reason was the specificity of AWARE’s remit as an antiwar organization - and a corresponding reluctance to risk distraction from it. Several members of AWARE were also disturbed by the demands’ being couched in the terms of identity politics. The rhetoric of ‘intersectionality’ - “being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are” - seems an inadequate attempt to put the Humpty Dumpty of American liberalism back together again, after it’s fallen off the wall of class politics that was its base from the 1930s to the 1970s. (Neoliberalism pushed it, of course.) Since the Obama administration has enlarged the wars it was elected to end - and the new administration will probably do more of the same - AWARE welcomes support from BSFR and allied organizations in opposing and ending the international crimes of the government for which we are responsible - and which remains, as ML King said long ago, “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.” And we wish all those organizations success with the truly progressive campaigns they undertake in the university and the community. Regards, C. G. Estabrook On Sep 18, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss > wrote: Hello all, I think some major clarification is needed. I've been the head of SJP at UIUC for the past two years, and I'm also a co-author of the 13th demand on the list. I want to be very clear that these demands are fully endorsed by SJP, but AWARE's consideration of them should not be conditional on that fact. BSFR has been an incredibly strong organizing force on campus since their formation last year, and have deep ties to the local chapter of Black Lives Matter. These demands are specifically aimed at galvanizing a movement on campus to force the University to make changes which are necessary. To answer what seems to be Carl's main concern, we as a collective of organizations are completely anti-war and anti-imperialist in all forms. The reason the demands do not specifically mention this is because that is simply beyond the purview of what we aim to accomplish, i.e., a "transformed University". The changes which we seek to implement on campus are reflective of those which we think our society as a whole needs, but made to fit the specific needs of this University and its students, staff, and community members with intentional focus on the most marginalized of these groups. I sincerely hope you don't take us to be so foolish as to think we write off the role the US has had in propagating violence both within and outside this nations borders. Furthermore, SJP and the demands themselves are explicitly in support of the BDS movement and do not see this as a sort of "ethical capitalism" but rather as a first step to eventually deconstructing the militaristic structures which enable countries like the United States and Israel to exact their state-sanctioned terrorism around the world. I also view these accusations of identity politicking as hasty and disingenuous at best and seriously ignorant at worse. We are being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are. Of the 26 or so groups who have officially signed on to the demands, representatives of at least 10 of them were involved in the writing and research process. While I hope AWARE will come to the conclusion of endorsing the demands, we will not make room for the incredible rudeness and "holier-than-thou" rhetoric which this email thread is rife with. If you have specific questions or concerns on the wording or content of the demands, please communicate with BSFR (http://www.bsfruiuc.com/contact-us) or SJP (sjp.uiuc at gmail.com) directly rather than speculate on our behalves and on the behalf of all the co-signed groups. Muhammad Yousuf […] On Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" > wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC (C. G. Estabrook) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:03:18 -0500 From: "C. G. Estabrook" > To: David Johnson > Cc: peace >, Peace-discuss List > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC Message-ID: <2F770B4C-7D53-4473-B519-9CC6F97956FD at newsfromneptune.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David— You suggest that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community.” That’s true if and only if the community is taken to be represented by Democratic liberals from Tammy Duckworth thru Mark Wicklund to Carol Ammons. AWARE rejects their objective support for Bush-Obama-Clinton war-making (see e.g. >). AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire. AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American racists." The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson > wrote: Gus Wood is one of the founding members. They organized last Fall 2015 They have repeatedly in their public speeches ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. David Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM To: David Johnson Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC Who are they and what's their history? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson > wrote: Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class based ; 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. This is called " CLASS based intersectionality " as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. BIG difference ! For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. David Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM To: Peace-discuss List Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. . AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace > wrote: Dear Peace-Discuss, At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) -- karen medina ------------------------------- 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. 2. WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. 3. WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. 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URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 19 13:31:39 2016 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 127 References: <1842706226.854500.1474291899999.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1842706226.854500.1474291899999@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Muhammad, Even accepting the need for the focused nature of these demands, I find the following lethally problematic: WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. It's particularly discordant because it is black men in particular, including black athletes, who have been falsely or problematically accused of sexual assault on college campuses. I've written about this: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/06/24/rape-culture-the-hunting-ground-and-amy-goodman-a-critical-perspective/ Moreover, the argument has been made that demands for mandatory sentencing of rapists will deter judges from exercising discretion in relation to non-violent drug offense sentencing that have been so destructive to black males and communities. The Marshall Project has weighed in on this, in opposition to the removal of Judge Persky in the Brock Allen Turner (Stanford) case. And whatever the possible (but by no means clear) validity of singling out Greek Life as a structural source of rape culture, it's ill-advised to "especially" single out individuals on the basis of their affiliation to face "severe penalties." That's just tone deaf to basic legal rights. This demand simply cannot be supported as written; unfortunately, it invalidates the entire exercise. I find no pleasure in saying this. Best, David -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 9/19/16, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote: Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 127 To: "Muhammad Yousuf" Cc: "peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net" Date: Monday, September 19, 2016, 12:11 AM Mr. Yousuf: AWARE ("Anti-war Anti-racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana”) was asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC. The suggestion has been discussed by email and at the regular Sunday night meeting of AWARE. Since its founding 15 years ago, AWARE has functioned by informal consensus rather than votes, and no vote was taken on the proposal, but there was no consensus that AWARE should add our name to the list of endorsers. The principal reason was the specificity of AWARE’s remit as an antiwar organization - and a corresponding reluctance to risk distraction from it. Several members of AWARE were also disturbed by the demands’ being couched in the terms of identity politics. The rhetoric of ‘intersectionality’ - “being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are” - seems an inadequate attempt to put the Humpty Dumpty of American liberalism back together again, after it’s fallen off the wall of class politics that was its base from the 1930s to the 1970s. (Neoliberalism pushed it, of course.)    Since the Obama administration has enlarged the wars it was elected to end - and the new administration will probably do more of the same - AWARE welcomes support from BSFR and allied organizations in opposing and ending the international crimes of the government for which we are responsible - and which remains, as ML King said long ago, “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.”  And we wish all those organizations success with the truly progressive campaigns they undertake in the university and the community. Regards, C. G. Estabrook  > On Sep 18, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Hello all, > > I think some major clarification is needed. I've been the head of SJP at UIUC for the past two years, and I'm also a co-author of the 13th demand on the list. I want to be very clear that these demands are fully endorsed by SJP, but AWARE's consideration of them should not be conditional on that fact. BSFR has been an incredibly strong organizing force on campus since their formation last year, and have deep ties to the local chapter of Black Lives Matter. These demands are specifically aimed at galvanizing a movement on campus to force the University to make changes which are necessary. To answer what seems to be Carl's main concern, we as a collective of organizations are completely anti-war and anti-imperialist in all forms. The reason the demands do not specifically mention this is because that is simply beyond the purview of what we aim to accomplish, i.e., a "transformed University". The changes which we seek to implement on campus are reflective of those which we think our society as a whole needs, but made to fit the specific needs of this University and its students, staff, and community members with intentional focus on the most marginalized of these groups. I sincerely hope you don't take us to be so foolish as to think we write off the role the US has had in propagating violence both within and outside this nations borders. Furthermore, SJP and the demands themselves are explicitly in support of the BDS movement and do not see this as a sort of "ethical capitalism" but rather as a first step to eventually deconstructing the militaristic structures which enable countries like the United States and Israel to exact their state-sanctioned terrorism around the world. > > I also view these accusations of identity politicking as hasty and disingenuous at best and seriously ignorant at worse. We are being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are. Of the 26 or so groups who have officially signed on to the demands, representatives of at least 10 of them were involved in the writing and research process. While I hope AWARE will come to the conclusion of endorsing the demands, we will not make room for the incredible rudeness and "holier-than-thou" rhetoric which this email thread is rife with. If you have specific questions or concerns on the wording or content of the demands, please communicate with BSFR (http://www.bsfruiuc.com/contact-us) or SJP (sjp.uiuc at gmail.com) directly rather than speculate on our behalves and on the behalf of all the co-signed groups. >  > Muhammad Yousuf > > > […] > > > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: > > > Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to >     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at >     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >   1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider    supporting the >       13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC (C. G. Estabrook) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:03:18 -0500 > From: "C. G. Estabrook" > To: David Johnson > Cc: peace , Peace-discuss List >      > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider >     supporting the 13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC > Message-ID: <2F770B4C-7D53-4473-B519-9CC6F97956FD at newsfromneptune.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > David— > > You suggest that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community.” That’s true if and only if the community is taken to be represented by Democratic liberals from Tammy Duckworth thru Mark Wicklund to Carol Ammons. AWARE rejects their objective support for Bush-Obama-Clinton war-making (see e.g. >). > > AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire. > > AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. > > The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: > > "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the > United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the > chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy > rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One > historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. > He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating > Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting > them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved > the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. > No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the > Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the > English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served > nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and > indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing > serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even > though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural > superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American > racists." > > The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE > > > > On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson wrote: > > > > Gus Wood is one of the founding members. > > > > They organized last Fall 2015 > > > > They have repeatedly in their public speeches  ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). > > > > Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. > > > > Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. > > > > After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". > > > > The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. > > Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. > > > > Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. > > > > David Johnson > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM > > To: David Johnson > > Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu > > Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > > > > Who are they and what's their history? > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson wrote: > >> > >> Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! > >> > >> I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. > >> > >> They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! > >> > >> They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. > >> > >> The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class > >> based ; > >> > >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. > >>>> 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. > >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. > >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. > >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. > >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. > >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). > >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. > >> > >> They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. > >> > >> They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. > >> > >> This is called " CLASS based intersectionality "  as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. > >> BIG difference ! > >> > >> For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. > >> > >> I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. > >> Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. > >> > >> David Johnson > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of > >> Carl G. Estabrook via Peace > >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM > >> To: Peace-discuss List > >> Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace > >> Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the > >> 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > >> > >> I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. > >> > >> The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? > >> > >> But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? > >> A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ > >> I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. > >> > >> The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). > >> See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): > >> > >>  "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. > >>  "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. > >>  "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . > >> > >> It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. > >> . > >> > >> AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. > >> And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. > >> > >> I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE > >> > >> > >>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Peace-Discuss, > >>>> > >>>> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. > >>>> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands > >>>> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting > >>>> then) > >>>> -- karen medina > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. > >>>> 2. > >>>> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. > >>>> 3. > >>>> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. > >>>> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. > >>>> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. > >>>> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. > >>>> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review > >>>> the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. > >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. > >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. > >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. > >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). > >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. > >>>> > >>>> List of Endorsing Local Organizations ​ > >>>>  • Black Students for Revolution > >>>> > >>>>  • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine > >>>> > >>>>  • Planner’s Network > >>>> > >>>>  • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan > >>>> > >>>>  • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee > >>>> > >>>>  • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support > >>>> > >>>>  • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates > >>>> > >>>>  • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization > >>>> > >>>>  • MSU - Mixed Student Union > >>>> > >>>>  • Women of Pride > >>>> > >>>>  • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana > >>>> > >>>>  • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois > >>>> > >>>>  • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective > >>>> > >>>>  • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice > >>>> > >>>>  • Men of Impact* > >>>> > >>>>  • Students Against Sexual Assault > >>>> > >>>>  • My Sister’s Keeper* > >>>> > >>>>  • STEM Boycotts the War Machine > >>>> > >>>>  • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization > >>>> > >>>>  • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS > >>>> > >>>>  • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect > >>>> > >>>>  • ASA - Arab Student Association > >>>> > >>>>  • UIUC Beyond Coal > >>>> > >>>>  • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Peace mailing list > >>>> Peace at lists.chambana.net > >>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Peace mailing list > >> Peace at lists.chambana.net > >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Sep 19 14:22:35 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 14:22:35 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] A highly recommended article. Message-ID: Freedom Rider: Standing with Syria by BAR editor and senior columnist Margaret Kimberley “There is only one question now: when will America tell its minions to stop fighting?” American and NATO aggressions must be opposed wherever they surface in the world. That statement ought to be the starting point for anyone calling themselves left, progressive, or anti-war. Of course the aggressors always use a ruse to diminish resistance to their wars of terror. In Syria and elsewhere they claim to support freedom fighters, the moderate opposition and any other designation that helps hide imperialist intervention. They label their target as a tyrant, a butcher, or a modern day Hitler who commits unspeakable acts against his own populace. The need to silence opposition is obvious and creating the image of a monster is the most reliable means of securing that result. The anti-war movement thus finds itself confused and rendered immobile by this predictable propaganda. It is all too easily manipulated into being at best ineffectual and at worst supporters of American state sponsored terror. For five years the United States, NATO, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Qatar and Turkey have given arms and money to terrorist groups in an effort to topple Syrian president Bashar al-Assad. Some of those bad actors felt flush with success after overthrowing and killing Muammar Gaddafi in Libya. They had high hopes of picking off another secular Arab government. Fortunately, Assad was hard to defeat and the barbarians cannot storm the gates. Most importantly, Russia stopped giving lip service to Assad and finally provided military support to the Syrian government in 2015. “American presidents, beginning with Jimmy Carter, have all used jihadists at opportune moments when they want regime change.” The United States government is responsible for the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Syria. The so-called barrel bomb doesn’t kill more people than conventional weapons provided by the United States and its puppets. There would not be bombs of any kind, sieges, starving children, or refugees if the Obama administration had not given the green light to the rogues gallery. Whatever their political beliefs or feelings about Assad, Syrians did not ask the United States to turn their country into a ruin. They don’t want ISIS to behead children, as they infamously did on camera. American presidents, beginning with Jimmy Carter, have all used jihadists at opportune moments when they want regime change. The name of the country under attack changes but the story ends with massive human suffering. Instead of siding unequivocally with America’s victims some in the anti-war movement instead live in greater fear of being labeled “pro Assad.” Assad didn’t invade Iraq and kill one million people. George W. Bush did that. Assad did not give support to jihadists to destroy Libya, kill 50,000 people, ignite a race war and create another refugee crisis. Barack Obama did that. The list of human rights abuses carried out by the American government is a long one indeed. There is torture in the United States prison system, the largest in the world. American police are given tacit permission to kill three people every day. Yet the fear of being thought of as an Assad supporter is so powerful that it silences people and organizations who should be in the forefront of confronting their country domestically and internationally. Of course American propaganda is ratcheted up at the very moment that sides must be chosen. Any discussion or debate regarding Syria’s political system was rendered moot as soon as the United States targeted that country for destruction. There is only one question now: when will America tell its minions to stop fighting? “The fear of being thought of as an Assad supporter is so powerful that it silences people and organizations who should be in the forefront of confronting their country domestically and internationally.” Obama didn’t start a proxy war with an expectation of losing, and Hillary Clinton makes clear her allegiance to regime change. The United States will only leave if Syria and its allies gain enough ground to force a retreat. They will call defeat something else at a negotiating table but Assad must win in order for justice and reconciliation to begin. Focusing on Assad’s government and treatment of his people may seem like a reasonable thing to do. Most people who call themselves anti-war are serious in their concern for humanity. But the most basic human right, the right to survive, was taken from 400,000 people because the American president decided to add one more notch on his gun. Whether intended or not, criticism of the victimized government makes the case for further aggression. The al-Nusra Front may change its name in a public relations effort, but it is still al Qaeda and still an ally of the United States. The unpredictable Donald Trump may not be able to explain that he spoke the truth when he accused Obama and Clinton of being ISIS supporters, but the anti-war movement should be able to explain without any problem. Cessations of hostilities are a sham meant to protect American assets whenever Assad is winning. If concern for the wellbeing of Syrians is a paramount concern, then the American anti-war movement must be united in condemning their own government without reservation or hesitation. Margaret Kimberley's Freedom Rider column appears weekly in BAR, and is widely reprinted elsewhere. She maintains a frequently updated blog as well as athttp://freedomrider.blogspot.com. 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Message-ID: Freedom Rider: Standing with Syria by BAR editor and senior columnist Margaret Kimberley “There is only one question now: when will America tell its minions to stop fighting?” American and NATO aggressions must be opposed wherever they surface in the world. That statement ought to be the starting point for anyone calling themselves left, progressive, or anti-war. Of course the aggressors always use a ruse to diminish resistance to their wars of terror. In Syria and elsewhere they claim to support freedom fighters, the moderate opposition and any other designation that helps hide imperialist intervention. They label their target as a tyrant, a butcher, or a modern day Hitler who commits unspeakable acts against his own populace. The need to silence opposition is obvious and creating the image of a monster is the most reliable means of securing that result. The anti-war movement thus finds itself confused and rendered immobile by this predictable propaganda. It is all too easily manipulated into being at best ineffectual and at worst supporters of American state sponsored terror. For five years the United States, NATO, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Qatar and Turkey have given arms and money to terrorist groups in an effort to topple Syrian president Bashar al-Assad. Some of those bad actors felt flush with success after overthrowing and killing Muammar Gaddafi in Libya. They had high hopes of picking off another secular Arab government. Fortunately, Assad was hard to defeat and the barbarians cannot storm the gates. Most importantly, Russia stopped giving lip service to Assad and finally provided military support to the Syrian government in 2015. “American presidents, beginning with Jimmy Carter, have all used jihadists at opportune moments when they want regime change.” The United States government is responsible for the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Syria. The so-called barrel bomb doesn’t kill more people than conventional weapons provided by the United States and its puppets. There would not be bombs of any kind, sieges, starving children, or refugees if the Obama administration had not given the green light to the rogues gallery. Whatever their political beliefs or feelings about Assad, Syrians did not ask the United States to turn their country into a ruin. They don’t want ISIS to behead children, as they infamously did on camera. American presidents, beginning with Jimmy Carter, have all used jihadists at opportune moments when they want regime change. The name of the country under attack changes but the story ends with massive human suffering. Instead of siding unequivocally with America’s victims some in the anti-war movement instead live in greater fear of being labeled “pro Assad.” Assad didn’t invade Iraq and kill one million people. George W. Bush did that. Assad did not give support to jihadists to destroy Libya, kill 50,000 people, ignite a race war and create another refugee crisis. Barack Obama did that. The list of human rights abuses carried out by the American government is a long one indeed. There is torture in the United States prison system, the largest in the world. American police are given tacit permission to kill three people every day. Yet the fear of being thought of as an Assad supporter is so powerful that it silences people and organizations who should be in the forefront of confronting their country domestically and internationally. Of course American propaganda is ratcheted up at the very moment that sides must be chosen. Any discussion or debate regarding Syria’s political system was rendered moot as soon as the United States targeted that country for destruction. There is only one question now: when will America tell its minions to stop fighting? “The fear of being thought of as an Assad supporter is so powerful that it silences people and organizations who should be in the forefront of confronting their country domestically and internationally.” Obama didn’t start a proxy war with an expectation of losing, and Hillary Clinton makes clear her allegiance to regime change. The United States will only leave if Syria and its allies gain enough ground to force a retreat. They will call defeat something else at a negotiating table but Assad must win in order for justice and reconciliation to begin. Focusing on Assad’s government and treatment of his people may seem like a reasonable thing to do. Most people who call themselves anti-war are serious in their concern for humanity. But the most basic human right, the right to survive, was taken from 400,000 people because the American president decided to add one more notch on his gun. Whether intended or not, criticism of the victimized government makes the case for further aggression. The al-Nusra Front may change its name in a public relations effort, but it is still al Qaeda and still an ally of the United States. The unpredictable Donald Trump may not be able to explain that he spoke the truth when he accused Obama and Clinton of being ISIS supporters, but the anti-war movement should be able to explain without any problem. Cessations of hostilities are a sham meant to protect American assets whenever Assad is winning. If concern for the wellbeing of Syrians is a paramount concern, then the American anti-war movement must be united in condemning their own government without reservation or hesitation. Margaret Kimberley's Freedom Rider column appears weekly in BAR, and is widely reprinted elsewhere. She maintains a frequently updated blog as well as athttp://freedomrider.blogspot.com. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Sep 19 15:09:43 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:09:43 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC In-Reply-To: References: <908112D8-8292-42F1-9265-F4F3DC74C276@illinois.edu> <5ECD57AA-756F-45C4-BCA2-7EC3520B1FB7@illinois.edu> Message-ID: I’m only now seeing the full text of the “demands” given so much is buried amongst other emails, and I’m a little slow with technology. I was only viewing the list that Karen Medina submitted below, not seeing the website that she also provided. It does provide a better understanding of intent if nothing else. On Sep 17, 2016, at 21:46, Harry Mickalide via Peace > wrote: Allow me to address two of Carl's concerns. 1) The demands are not just being pursued by a loud minority, but are supported by an extensive list of campus organizations which are listed in Karen's original email. The student activist community as a whole has rallied around the list of demands. 2) We do not have to speculate if these demands critique US war-making because the full text of demand 13, the divestment demand, explicitly calls on the university to divest from "corporations which actively support or enable states currently carrying out human right’s abuses (e.g., Israel, Saudi Arabia, Myanmar), all private prison corporations, and all private military contractors and weapons manufacturers." -Harry On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace > wrote: I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. . AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace > wrote: >> >> Dear Peace-Discuss, >> >> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. >> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands >> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) >> -- karen medina >> ------------------------------- >> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. >> 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. >> 3. >> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. >> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. >> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. >> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. >> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. >> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. >> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. >> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. >> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). >> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. >> >> List of Endorsing Local Organizations >> ​ >> • Black Students for Revolution >> >> • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine >> >> • Planner’s Network >> >> • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan >> >> • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee >> >> • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support >> >> • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates >> >> • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization >> >> • MSU - Mixed Student Union >> >> • Women of Pride >> >> • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana >> >> • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois >> >> • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective >> >> • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice >> >> • Men of Impact* >> >> • Students Against Sexual Assault >> >> • My Sister’s Keeper* >> >> • STEM Boycotts the War Machine >> >> • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization >> >> • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS >> >> • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect >> >> • ASA - Arab Student Association >> >> • UIUC Beyond Coal >> >> • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 19 15:15:05 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 134 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2072743735.940131.1474298105230@mail.yahoo.com> "AWARE has functioned by informal consensus rather thanvotes, and no vote was taken on the proposal, but there was no consensus that AWARE should add our name to the list of endorsers. So, who, what was the process in declaring "no consensus"....???... CGE commentWhy not do a real survey.See below... It's completely anonymous, other than having to pick an observer (which in itself would be an interesting endeavor)I tried it.... was simple ... works well.I'd bet $100 it'll never happen, but it's not a bad idea. ADoodle.org - Anonymous Doodle | | | ADoodle.org - Anonymous Doodle ADoodle.org organizes a simple and anonymous vote among collegues or friends. No one has to reveal his/her own c... | | | On Monday, September 19, 2016 10:23 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 127 (David Green)   2. A highly recommended article. (Karen Aram) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:31:39 +0000 (UTC) From: David Green To: Muhammad Yousuf ,  "C. G. Estabrook"     Cc: "peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net"     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 127 Message-ID: <1842706226.854500.1474291899999 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Muhammad, Even accepting the need for the focused nature of these demands, I find the following lethally problematic: WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. It's particularly discordant because it is black men in particular, including black athletes, who have been falsely or problematically accused of sexual assault on college campuses. I've written about this: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/06/24/rape-culture-the-hunting-ground-and-amy-goodman-a-critical-perspective/ Moreover, the argument has been made that demands for mandatory sentencing of rapists will deter judges from exercising discretion in relation to non-violent drug offense sentencing that have been so destructive to black males and communities. The Marshall Project has weighed in on this, in opposition to the removal of Judge Persky in the Brock Allen Turner (Stanford) case. And whatever the possible (but by no means clear) validity of singling out Greek Life as a structural source of rape culture, it's ill-advised to "especially" single out individuals on the basis of their affiliation to face "severe penalties." That's just tone deaf to basic legal rights. This demand simply cannot be supported as written; unfortunately, it invalidates the entire exercise. I find no pleasure in saying this. Best, David -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 9/19/16, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote: Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 127 To: "Muhammad Yousuf" Cc: "peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net" Date: Monday, September 19, 2016, 12:11 AM Mr. Yousuf: AWARE ("Anti-war Anti-racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana”) was asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC. The suggestion has been discussed by email and at the regular Sunday night meeting of AWARE. Since its founding 15 years ago, AWARE has functioned by informal consensus rather than votes, and no vote was taken on the proposal, but there was no consensus that AWARE should add our name to the list of endorsers. The principal reason was the specificity of AWARE’s remit as an antiwar organization - and a corresponding reluctance to risk distraction from it. Several members of AWARE were also disturbed by the demands’ being couched in the terms of identity politics. The rhetoric of ‘intersectionality’ - “being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are” - seems an inadequate attempt to put the Humpty Dumpty of American liberalism back together again, after it’s fallen off the wall of class politics that was its base from the 1930s to the 1970s. (Neoliberalism pushed it, of course.)    Since the Obama administration has enlarged the wars it was elected to end - and the new administration will probably do more of the same - AWARE welcomes support from BSFR and allied organizations in opposing and ending the international crimes of the government for which we are responsible - and which remains, as ML King said long ago, “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.”  And we wish all those organizations success with the truly progressive campaigns they undertake in the university and the community. Regards, C. G. Estabrook    > On Sep 18, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Hello all, > > I think some major clarification is needed. I've been the head of SJP at UIUC for the past two years, and I'm also a co-author of the 13th demand on the list. I want to be very clear that these demands are fully endorsed by SJP, but AWARE's consideration of them should not be conditional on that fact. BSFR has been an incredibly strong organizing force on campus since their formation last year, and have deep ties to the local chapter of Black Lives Matter. These demands are specifically aimed at galvanizing a movement on campus to force the University to make changes which are necessary. To answer what seems to be Carl's main concern, we as a collective of organizations are completely anti-war and anti-imperialist in all forms. The reason the demands do not specifically mention this is because that is simply beyond the purview of what we aim to accomplish, i.e., a "transformed University". The changes which we seek to implement on campus are reflective of those which we think our society as a whole needs, but made to fit the specific needs of this University and its students, staff, and community members with intentional focus on the most marginalized of these groups. I sincerely hope you don't take us to be so foolish as to think we write off the role the US has had in propagating violence both within and outside this nations borders. Furthermore, SJP and the demands themselves are explicitly in support of the BDS movement and do not see this as a sort of "ethical capitalism" but rather as a first step to eventually deconstructing the militaristic structures which enable countries like the United States and Israel to exact their state-sanctioned terrorism around the world. > > I also view these accusations of identity politicking as hasty and disingenuous at best and seriously ignorant at worse. We are being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are. Of the 26 or so groups who have officially signed on to the demands, representatives of at least 10 of them were involved in the writing and research process. While I hope AWARE will come to the conclusion of endorsing the demands, we will not make room for the incredible rudeness and "holier-than-thou" rhetoric which this email thread is rife with. If you have specific questions or concerns on the wording or content of the demands, please communicate with BSFR (http://www.bsfruiuc.com/contact-us) or SJP (sjp.uiuc at gmail.com) directly rather than speculate on our behalves and on the behalf of all the co-signed groups. >  > Muhammad Yousuf > > > […] > > > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: > > > Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to >     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at >     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >   1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider    supporting the >       13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC (C. G. Estabrook) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:03:18 -0500 > From: "C. G. Estabrook" > To: David Johnson > Cc: peace , Peace-discuss List >      > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider >     supporting the 13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC > Message-ID: <2F770B4C-7D53-4473-B519-9CC6F97956FD at newsfromneptune.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > David— > > You suggest that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community.” That’s true if and only if the community is taken to be represented by Democratic liberals from Tammy Duckworth thru Mark Wicklund to Carol Ammons. AWARE rejects their objective support for Bush-Obama-Clinton war-making (see e.g. >). > > AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire. > > AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. > > The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: > > "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the > United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the > chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy > rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One > historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. > He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating > Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting > them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved > the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. > No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the > Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the > English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served > nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and > indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing > serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even > though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural > superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American > racists." > > The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE > > > > On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson wrote: > > > > Gus Wood is one of the founding members. > > > > They organized last Fall 2015 > > > > They have repeatedly in their public speeches  ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). > > > > Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. > > > > Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. > > > > After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". > > > > The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. > > Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. > > > > Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. > > > > David Johnson > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM > > To: David Johnson > > Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu > > Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > > > > Who are they and what's their history? > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson wrote: > >> > >> Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! > >> > >> I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. > >> > >> They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! > >> > >> They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. > >> > >> The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class > >> based ; > >> > >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. > >>>> 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. > >> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. > >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. > >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. > >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. > >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). > >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. > >> > >> They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. > >> > >> They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. > >> > >> This is called " CLASS based intersectionality "  as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. > >> BIG difference ! > >> > >> For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. > >> > >> I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. > >> Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. > >> > >> David Johnson > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of > >> Carl G. Estabrook via Peace > >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM > >> To: Peace-discuss List > >> Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace > >> Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the > >> 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC > >> > >> I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. > >> > >> The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? > >> > >> But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? > >> A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ > >> I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. > >> > >> The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). > >> See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): > >> > >>  "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. > >>  "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. > >>  "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . > >> > >> It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. > >> . > >> > >> AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. > >> And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. > >> > >> I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE > >> > >> > >>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Peace-Discuss, > >>>> > >>>> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. > >>>> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands > >>>> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting > >>>> then) > >>>> -- karen medina > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. > >>>> 2. > >>>> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. > >>>> 3. > >>>> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. > >>>> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. > >>>> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. > >>>> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. > >>>> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review > >>>> the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. > >>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. > >>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. > >>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. > >>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). > >>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. > >>>> > >>>> List of Endorsing Local Organizations ​ > >>>>  • Black Students for Revolution > >>>> > >>>>  • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine > >>>> > >>>>  • Planner’s Network > >>>> > >>>>  • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan > >>>> > >>>>  • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee > >>>> > >>>>  • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support > >>>> > >>>>  • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates > >>>> > >>>>  • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization > >>>> > >>>>  • MSU - Mixed Student Union > >>>> > >>>>  • Women of Pride > >>>> > >>>>  • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana > >>>> > >>>>  • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois > >>>> > >>>>  • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective > >>>> > >>>>  • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice > >>>> > >>>>  • Men of Impact* > >>>> > >>>>  • Students Against Sexual Assault > >>>> > >>>>  • My Sister’s Keeper* > >>>> > >>>>  • STEM Boycotts the War Machine > >>>> > >>>>  • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization > >>>> > >>>>  • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS > >>>> > >>>>  • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect > >>>> > >>>>  • ASA - Arab Student Association > >>>> > >>>>  • UIUC Beyond Coal > >>>> > >>>>  • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Peace mailing list > >>>> Peace at lists.chambana.net > >>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Peace mailing list > >> Peace at lists.chambana.net > >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 14:22:35 +0000 From: Karen Aram To: Peace-discuss List , Peace     Discuss Subject: [Peace-discuss] A highly recommended article. Message-ID:         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Freedom Rider: Standing with Syria by BAR editor and senior columnist Margaret Kimberley “There is only one question now: when will America tell its minions to stop fighting?” American and NATO aggressions must be opposed wherever they surface in the world. That statement ought to be the starting point for anyone calling themselves left, progressive, or anti-war. Of course the aggressors always use a ruse to diminish resistance to their wars of terror. In Syria and elsewhere they claim to support freedom fighters, the moderate opposition and any other designation that helps hide imperialist intervention. They label their target as a tyrant, a butcher, or a modern day Hitler who commits unspeakable acts against his own populace. The need to silence opposition is obvious and creating the image of a monster is the most reliable means of securing that result. The anti-war movement thus finds itself confused and rendered immobile by this predictable propaganda. It is all too easily manipulated into being at best ineffectual and at worst supporters of American state sponsored terror. For five years the United States, NATO, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Qatar and Turkey have given arms and money to terrorist groups in an effort to topple Syrian president Bashar al-Assad. Some of those bad actors felt flush with success after overthrowing and killing Muammar Gaddafi in Libya. They had high hopes of picking off another secular Arab government. Fortunately, Assad was hard to defeat and the barbarians cannot storm the gates. Most importantly, Russia stopped giving lip service to Assad and finally provided military support to the Syrian government in 2015. “American presidents, beginning with Jimmy Carter, have all used jihadists at opportune moments when they want regime change.” The United States government is responsible for the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Syria. The so-called barrel bomb doesn’t kill more people than conventional weapons provided by the United States and its puppets. There would not be bombs of any kind, sieges, starving children, or refugees if the Obama administration had not given the green light to the rogues gallery. Whatever their political beliefs or feelings about Assad, Syrians did not ask the United States to turn their country into a ruin. They don’t want ISIS to behead children, as they infamously did on camera. American presidents, beginning with Jimmy Carter, have all used jihadists at opportune moments when they want regime change. The name of the country under attack changes but the story ends with massive human suffering. Instead of siding unequivocally with America’s victims some in the anti-war movement instead live in greater fear of being labeled “pro Assad.” Assad didn’t invade Iraq and kill one million people. George W. Bush did that. Assad did not give support to jihadists to destroy Libya, kill 50,000 people, ignite a race war and create another refugee crisis. Barack Obama did that. The list of human rights abuses carried out by the American government is a long one indeed. There is torture in the United States prison system, the largest in the world. American police are given tacit permission to kill three people every day. Yet the fear of being thought of as an Assad supporter is so powerful that it silences people and organizations who should be in the forefront of confronting their country domestically and internationally. Of course American propaganda is ratcheted up at the very moment that sides must be chosen. Any discussion or debate regarding Syria’s political system was rendered moot as soon as the United States targeted that country for destruction. There is only one question now: when will America tell its minions to stop fighting? “The fear of being thought of as an Assad supporter is so powerful that it silences people and organizations who should be in the forefront of confronting their country domestically and internationally.” Obama didn’t start a proxy war with an expectation of losing, and Hillary Clinton makes clear her allegiance to regime change. The United States will only leave if Syria and its allies gain enough ground to force a retreat. They will call defeat something else at a negotiating table but Assad must win in order for justice and reconciliation to begin. Focusing on Assad’s government and treatment of his people may seem like a reasonable thing to do. Most people who call themselves anti-war are serious in their concern for humanity. But the most basic human right, the right to survive, was taken from 400,000 people because the American president decided to add one more notch on his gun. Whether intended or not, criticism of the victimized government makes the case for further aggression. The al-Nusra Front may change its name in a public relations effort, but it is still al Qaeda and still an ally of the United States. The unpredictable Donald Trump may not be able to explain that he spoke the truth when he accused Obama and Clinton of being ISIS supporters, but the anti-war movement should be able to explain without any problem. Cessations of hostilities are a sham meant to protect American assets whenever Assad is winning. If concern for the wellbeing of Syrians is a paramount concern, then the American anti-war movement must be united in condemning their own government without reservation or hesitation. Margaret Kimberley's Freedom Rider column appears weekly in BAR, and is widely reprinted elsewhere. She maintains a frequently updated blog as well as athttp://freedomrider.blogspot.com. Ms. Kimberley lives in New York City, and can be reached via e-Mail at Margaret.Kimberley(at)BlackAgendaReport.com. [https://external.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQBFBaZaglt7Nhrz&w=158&h=158&url=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-UeosV-GFvB0%2FV12KfoI2rLI%2FAAAAAAAAAWg%2FF_SMtnO8ApovuVwbBgXqFtVQrC-nWFYQACK4B%2Fs1600%2F13055501_10206274131078020_4151346819032523649_n.jpg&cfs=1&upscale=1&sx=0&sy=0&sw=180&sh=180] Freedom Rider Copyright 2003 - 2016 FREEDOMRIDER.BLOGSPOT.COM|BY FREEDOM RIDER Like -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 9/20/16 5:53 AM, Debra Schrishuhn via Peace wrote: > Central Illinois chapter of Progressive Democrats of America is > hosting CODEPINK Co-Founder and author Medea Benjamin at a book > signing for her new book, Kingdom of the Unjust: the U.S.-Saudi > Connection, 4:00-5:30 pm on Saturday, Nov. 5, at McKinley Presbyterian > Church in Champaign. It is a free event, and we welcome any > organization or individual who wishes to co-sponsor with us. Please > contact me at deb at pdamerica.org to co-sponsor. > > Thanks, > Deb > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Tue Sep 20 15:14:52 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:14:52 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Medea Benjamin book signing event in Champaign In-Reply-To: <2d3a5603-8f24-6473-8fa0-be92c2b53c5c@gmail.com> References: <2d3a5603-8f24-6473-8fa0-be92c2b53c5c@gmail.com> Message-ID: <006801d21351$bd7054e0$3850fea0$@comcast.net> I agree ! David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Stuart Levy via Peace-discuss Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:20 AM To: Debra Schrishuhn; peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Medea Benjamin book signing event in Champaign Wow! I think AWARE should absolutely sign on. What do others say? On 9/20/16 5:53 AM, Debra Schrishuhn via Peace wrote: Central Illinois chapter of Progressive Democrats of America is hosting CODEPINK Co-Founder and author Medea Benjamin at a book signing for her new book, Kingdom of the Unjust: the U.S.-Saudi Connection, 4:00-5:30 pm on Saturday, Nov. 5, at McKinley Presbyterian Church in Champaign. It is a free event, and we welcome any organization or individual who wishes to co-sponsor with us. Please contact me at deb at pdamerica.org to co-sponsor. Thanks, Deb _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Tue Sep 20 15:24:24 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:24:24 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Medea Benjamin book signing event in Champaign In-Reply-To: <2d3a5603-8f24-6473-8fa0-be92c2b53c5c@gmail.com> References: <2d3a5603-8f24-6473-8fa0-be92c2b53c5c@gmail.com> Message-ID: That seems worthwhile. —CGE http://www.huffingtonpost.com/medea-benjamin/hillary-clinton-the-podes_b_11779826.html > On Sep 20, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Stuart Levy via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Wow! I think AWARE should absolutely sign on. What do others say? > > On 9/20/16 5:53 AM, Debra Schrishuhn via Peace wrote: >> Central Illinois chapter of Progressive Democrats of America is >> hosting CODEPINK Co-Founder and author Medea Benjamin at a book >> signing for her new book, Kingdom of the Unjust: the U.S.-Saudi >> Connection, 4:00-5:30 pm on Saturday, Nov. 5, at McKinley Presbyterian >> Church in Champaign. It is a free event, and we welcome any >> organization or individual who wishes to co-sponsor with us. Please >> contact me at >> deb at pdamerica.org >> to co-sponsor. >> >> Thanks, >> Deb >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Sep 20 15:35:23 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 15:35:23 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Medea Benjamin book signing event in Champaign In-Reply-To: References: <2d3a5603-8f24-6473-8fa0-be92c2b53c5c@gmail.com> Message-ID: Absolutely, In fact I thought we did all agree a few weeks back, to support it, with no one dissenting. > On Sep 20, 2016, at 08:24, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote: > > That seems worthwhile. —CGE > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/medea-benjamin/hillary-clinton-the-podes_b_11779826.html > > >> On Sep 20, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Stuart Levy via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Wow! I think AWARE should absolutely sign on. What do others say? >> >> On 9/20/16 5:53 AM, Debra Schrishuhn via Peace wrote: >>> Central Illinois chapter of Progressive Democrats of America is >>> hosting CODEPINK Co-Founder and author Medea Benjamin at a book >>> signing for her new book, Kingdom of the Unjust: the U.S.-Saudi >>> Connection, 4:00-5:30 pm on Saturday, Nov. 5, at McKinley Presbyterian >>> Church in Champaign. It is a free event, and we welcome any >>> organization or individual who wishes to co-sponsor with us. Please >>> contact me at >>> deb at pdamerica.org >>> to co-sponsor. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Deb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Peace mailing list >>> >>> Peace at lists.chambana.net >>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From kmedina67 at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 15:42:41 2016 From: kmedina67 at gmail.com (Karen Medina) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:42:41 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Medea Benjamin book signing event in Champaign In-Reply-To: References: <2d3a5603-8f24-6473-8fa0-be92c2b53c5c@gmail.com> Message-ID: Medea Benjamin is one of my heros! Co-sponsor, yes! Start a group reading her earlier books (approximately 10 books) starting with "Drone Warfare: Killing by remote control" (2012), also yes. On Sep 20, 2016 9:20 AM, "Stuart Levy via Peace-discuss" < peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 21 00:10:44 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 00:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] BSFJUIUC References: <2067902456.1965870.1474416644321.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2067902456.1965870.1474416644321@mail.yahoo.com> To Muhammad Yousuf and AWARE,I'm the co-sponsor/speaker in this set of an online conference videos held over the last couple of weeks that includes participation by a former Dir of Studies of the US ARMY War College, a CIA liaison officer to Saddam Hussein, a US Army psyops officer and seven other researchers. We also held a Academic Freedom Conference just prior to this. It seems that AWARE has rejected BSFJUIUC's request to support their demands (I think the word "demands" has more to do with their fortitude than their aggressiveness).It makes perfect sense, if looked at from the needs and agenda of the Jewish power structure of the UofI. Professor Salaita ran head-on into it and surprisingly found it to be penetrable. BSFJ has run into that power but don't have an immediate and singular act of blatant racism to focus on like in the Salaita (Palestinian) case. There is a direct relationship between Salaita's (Palestinian struggle and that of BSFJ. BSFJ's is slightly different in that it (Black racism) has had a much longer time to be manipulated (see below) than the Palestinian cause. I say this with a tone consistent with a knowledgeable few who see Jewish tacticians cleverly piggy-back their agenda upon Black issues in order to further their own goals whilst no one is looking too closely. Below I will set forth many examples of this tactic, of which one is Cultural Marxism. Channing Murray, through Karen Medina needed/wanted to attach (piggyback) themselves to the Black Students for Revolution to be consistent with their role as proponents of Cultural Marxism via Unitarian Universalism as set forth by the Jewish led Institute of Social Research (Columbia University and Goethe University, Frankfurt). Most locals will deny this path exists, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And I seriously doubt Karen Medina had this tract in mind when making the request. I'm just providing the facts that it does exist. I assume everyone reading this knows the ultimate goals of Cultural Marxists. AWARE came up with three or so tepid excuses to reject the BSFJ request naming identity politics, unworkability and something about provocateurs....whatever...the writing was on the wall about three emails in that AWARE was not on board. The AR in AWARE should be removed  as someone sort of suggested, referring to the group as being more and antiwar group that anti-racism (I question the AW).  There was absolutely no effort, that I know of, to reconcile anything with BSFJ. AWARE is just a just an extension of the UofI establishment. It neither accomplishes anything or causes any controversy. It's a chat club. If it actually endorsed BSFJ, it would benefit more than BSFJ, but they didn't. I don't see any evidence that BSFJ, SJP or BDS are controlled opposition entities.  If they are, we (Goyim, Semites) are all doomed. I have run into this UofI Jewish power through my efforts with 9/11 Truth which directly accuses Israel of complicity in that event. Israel's horrific, murderous act in the controlled demolition of the WTC is the subject of millions of hours of research over the last fifteen years and it doggedly continues, because we keep coming up with new evidence and connections. Even Cass Sunstein, a Jewish field marshal in the Cultural Marxism army recently referred to a Zogby poll that said 49% of New Yorkers question the 9/11 Commission's official view of the 9/11 events at a conference with his peers. This is inspirational.  9/11 Truth is considered anti-Semitic. Jews, through AIPAC have a death grip on Washington DC and can stop any investigation of 9/11. Their accusation that 9/11 Truth is anti-Semitic is just confirmation that they have something to hide. The meaning of "anti-Semitism" is changing... into the question "What crime are you trying to cover-up?" But back to BSFJ ... and really SJP and BDS....all the same, for the purposes of these thoughts. They all get basically the same treatment from a over represented Jewish power at the UofI and all U.S. universities and AWARE. All major Jewish organizations support/fund mass immigration of third world peoples into developed white populations except Palestinians and non-white Jews. This is racism and hypocrisy at the core. 9/11 and the false accusation that 19 Arab hijackers and the ensuing world chaos is a Jewish racist evil plan that has to be stopped. You blew it AWARE... you had a chance to make a real anti-racist statement... and you didn't. I'm not anti-Semitic, I'm anti-murderous-Zionist-criminals who start wars for their own goals.   Below are just some supporting details....that's the tip of an iceberg. AWARE as I've long suspected belongs (well, the little tiny baby sister of ) in a long list of fake social justice websites with catchy social names, Jewish foundations and highly suspect motives and agenda. That list could include the NAACP founded/financed by:  William English Walling, Henry Moskowitz, Jacob Schiff (Kuhn Loeb banking), Lillian Wald, Joel Spingarn... all wealthy Jews. Southern Poverty Law Center... pays it's top white principles over $150,000 annual compensation. Leadership includes J. Richard Cohen, Mary C. Bauer, Mark A. Potok ....  all Ashenazi Jews National Urban League, principally funded by Sears-Roebuck magnate, Julius Rosenwald. It's first chaiman was Edwin Seligman, weathy Jewish family... first Executive Board included Abraham Lefkowitz and Felix Adler Jewish contributions made up three-quarters of the money raised by SNCC [Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee], CORE, and SCLC ... paraphrased from RadioIslam. and we can't forget little baby sister Channing Murray ...strong affiliation with Unitarian Universalists for Jewish Awareness UUJA http://www.uuworld.org/articles/national-uu-jewish-conference here are the answers why:[GINSBERG, p. 125] In 1975 Hasia Dinner wrote a PhD thesis about the way that "Jewish support for black causes was a way for Jews to broaden their own rights without becoming conspicuous by advocating their group interests." Ginsberg argues that the multicultural coalitions spearheaded by Jews in the civil rights era "was a political tactic" to "undermine the power" of those establishment social forces that hindered further Jewish socio-economic advancement. There is a direct relationship between this and the modern Democratic Party HRC/Obama/Soros/ADL/ and all their criminal bankster buddies support multiculturalism and pummel Trump with accusations of racism. World Wildlife Fund subsidiary of The Peace Parks Foundation. The Club 21 is the primary financier, advisor. Among its 21 members include: Rupert Family, the Rothschild Foundation (Anglo-Zionist), De Beers (Anglo-Zionist), Deutsche Bank (German), Philips (Dutch), Total (Suez Group), and DaimlerChrysler (US). Forbes 2006, 139 of 400 billionaires Jewish, 26 billion research 92% of all the land inside the Green Line of Israel is reserved for Jews only; the rest of the land, approximately 8%, is for the non-Jewish people who comprise 20% of the total Israeli population. Therefore, it is a segregated, apartheid country... - This is further evidenced by the fact that there are Jews-only by-pass roads that go to Jews-only settlements built on stolen Palestinian land. - Non-Jews are never given permits to build inside Israel. - Jews are only allowed to marry fellow Jews inside Israel or else the marriage is not considered valid or legal, therefore there is not religious freedom nor freedom of choice. - It is against Israeli law for Christians to hand out Christian literature (or for Muslims to hand out Islamic literature) on the streets in Israel, therefore there is no religious freedom. - Israel is a "Jewish state", whereby all Jews receive preferential treatment in every way, therefore it is NOT a democratic, secular state. - In fact, non-Jewish Israelis are not allowed to run for office in Israel if they want to run on a platform calling for Israel to transform into a truly democratic, secular country... - At all Israeli [news] papers, all the journalists are Jewish, therefore there is no "equal representation" even in the media, nothing close to it. NO EQUAL OPPORTUNITY for non-Jews. - Jews from around the world are encouraged by the Israeli government to go to Palestinian Territories and steal Palestinian land using guns for illegal Jewish settlements... Meanwhile, Palestinians are forced to live under strict curfew, roadblocks, and checkpoints, which strangulate any kind of normal life... - Palestinians in the Palestinian Territories of the Gaza Strip & the West Bank must pay taxes to Israel yet they do not have the right to vote in Israeli elections. This is taxation without representation. This is tyranny. - Discrimination is not allowed [by law] in the U.S. but in Israel political leaders openly call for a transfer of non-Jews from Israel. Newspapers constantly print racist, discriminatory articles about non-Jews. Racist, anti-Arab graffitti is everywhere in Israel and allowed to stay there. - Palestinian refugees, who were chased off their land in terror in 1948 when the Jewish state of Israel was created by the UN who gave away Arab land that was NOT theirs to give away in the first place to Jewish Europeans, have never been allowed to return to their homeland of Palestine-Israel even though it is their right according to UN Resolutions and International Law. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xpman10 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 21 02:55:26 2016 From: xpman10 at yahoo.com (Muhammad Yousuf) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 02:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] The "13 demands" question in relation to AWARE In-Reply-To: References: <272959778.538238.1474228525751@mail.yahoo.com> <295454631.550726.1474231370469@mail.yahoo.com> <1932042648.824043.1474257878530@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1195554823.2436953.1474426526566@mail.yahoo.com> To be completely frank, it seems that you are reading more controversy into the demands than is actually present, Carl. We've been doing what works for the communities here at UIUC in order to gain support and maintain a sustainable movement. But hey, believe what you will from the armchair. Demand 13 specifically is a way to stop the University's support of warmongers. If you took the time to think about what an "anti-war" University would look like, I bet you'd end up with something damn close to demand 13. Lose your elitism. Stephen: do you seriously think we plan to implement these demands immediately? We understand that the process of building a student movement capable of putting these demands in action, much less implementing them, will be a years long process. It is also ironic that we are somehow "arrogant" and "tone deaf"--if only you were more in-the-loop regarding student activism here at UIUC (aside from peddling your "global Zionism" conspiracy theories that is) then you'd understand the movement we have built and the measures we are willing to take to achieve our goals. To reiterate, the demands are a living document. We are willing to make additions and edits to wording if met with constructive criticism and true concern, not the vague and disingenuous bullshit that most of these emails comprise of. Like I said, if you have a comment--reach out. For example, we will likely be adding a 14th demand regarding mental health services on campus. If you'd like to be involved in this process as a community member, we're more than glad to work with you. However please also keep in mind the tangible nature of the demands as being specific to what we can change about the University.  It's sad that for many of my fellow student organizers these interactions will be the first they have with AWARE--these episodes are not only a poor reflection of you both but also of AWARE as a whole. Suffice it to say that it leaves us with a bad taste in our mouths.  Muhammad Yousuf On Monday, September 19, 2016 8:21 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: Resending with the proper subject title. On Sep 19, 2016, at 05:30, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: My recent discussions with David Johnson lend  me to believe that the intent of the demands is to end discrimination against all, not just the privileged few, and to extend a “revolution” beyond the U of I. I understand the demands can not be rewritten however I would like to suggest an amendment be added. If a #14 demand was added as an amendment “we demand the U of I not support wars and militarization and ensure freedom of speech and truth be the goal of a university education.”  I would gladly support  it.  On Sep 18, 2016, at 22:11, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote: Mr. Yousuf: AWARE ("Anti-war Anti-racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana”) was asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC. The suggestion has been discussed by email and at the regular Sunday night meeting of AWARE. Since its founding 15 years ago, AWARE has functioned by informal consensus rather than votes, and no vote was taken on the proposal, but there was no consensus that AWARE should add our name to the list of endorsers.  The principal reason was the specificity of AWARE’s remit as an antiwar organization - and a corresponding reluctance to risk distraction from it. Several members of AWARE were also disturbed by the demands’ being couched in the terms of identity politics. The rhetoric of ‘intersectionality’ - “being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are” - seems an inadequate attempt to put the Humpty Dumpty of American liberalism back together again, after it’s fallen off the wall of class politics that was its base from the 1930s to the 1970s. (Neoliberalism pushed it, of course.)     Since the Obama administration has enlarged the wars it was elected to end - and the new administration will probably do more of the same - AWARE welcomes support from BSFR and allied organizations in opposing and ending the international crimes of the government for which we are responsible - and which remains, as ML King said long ago, “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.”  And we wish all those organizations success with the truly progressive campaigns they undertake in the university and the community. Regards, C. G. Estabrook   On Sep 18, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss wrote: Hello all, I think some major clarification is needed. I've been the head of SJP at UIUC for the past two years, and I'm also a co-author of the 13th demand on the list. I want to be very clear that these demands are fully endorsed by SJP, but AWARE's consideration of them should not be conditional on that fact. BSFR has been an incredibly strong organizing force on campus since their formation last year, and have deep ties to the local chapter of Black Lives Matter. These demands are specifically aimed at galvanizing a movement on campus to force the University to make changes which are necessary. To answer what seems to be Carl's main concern, we as a collective of organizations are completely anti-war and anti-imperialist in all forms. The reason the demands do not specifically mention this is because that is simply beyond the purview of what we aim to accomplish, i.e., a "transformed University". The changes which we seek to implement on campus are reflective of those which we think our society as a whole needs, but made to fit the specific needs of this University and its students, staff, and community members with intentional focus on the most marginalized of these groups. I sincerely hope you don't take us to be so foolish as to think we write off the role the US has had in propagating violence both within and outside this nations borders. Furthermore, SJP and the demands themselves are explicitly in support of the BDS movement and do not see this as a sort of "ethical capitalism" but rather as a first step to eventually deconstructing the militaristic structures which enable countries like the United States and Israel to exact their state-sanctioned terrorism around the world.  I also view these accusations of identity politicking as hasty and disingenuous at best and seriously ignorant at worse. We are being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are. Of the 26 or so groups who have officially signed on to the demands, representatives of at least 10 of them were involved in the writing and research process. While I hope AWARE will come to the conclusion of endorsing the demands, we will not make room for the incredible rudeness and "holier-than-thou" rhetoric which this email thread is rife with. If you have specific questions or concerns on the wording or content of the demands, please communicate with BSFR (http://www.bsfruiuc.com/contact-us) or SJP (sjp.uiuc at gmail.com) directly rather than speculate on our behalves and on the behalf of all the co-signed groups.  Muhammad Yousuf […] On Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to    peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit    https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to    peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at    peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:  1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider    supporting the      13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC (C. G. Estabrook) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:03:18 -0500 From: "C. G. Estabrook" To: David Johnson Cc: peace , Peace-discuss List     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider    supporting the 13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC Message-ID: <2F770B4C-7D53-4473-B519-9CC6F97956FD at newsfromneptune.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David— You suggest that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community.” That’s true if and only if the community is taken to be represented by Democratic liberals from Tammy Duckworth thru Mark Wicklund to Carol Ammons. AWARE rejects their objective support for Bush-Obama-Clinton war-making (see e.g. >). AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire.  AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American racists." The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson wrote: Gus Wood is one of the founding members. They organized last Fall 2015  They have repeatedly in their public speeches  ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. David Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu]  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM To: David Johnson Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC Who are they and what's their history? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson wrote: Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class  based ; 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. This is called " CLASS based intersectionality "  as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. BIG difference ! For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. David Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of  Carl G. Estabrook via Peace Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM To: Peace-discuss List Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the  13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’?  A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. . AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says.  I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: Dear Peace-Discuss, At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) -- karen medina ------------------------------- 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. 2.  WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. 3.  WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review  the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. 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URL: From xpman10 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 21 03:08:24 2016 From: xpman10 at yahoo.com (Muhammad Yousuf) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 03:08:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] The "13 demands" question in relation to AWARE In-Reply-To: <1195554823.2436953.1474426526566@mail.yahoo.com> References: <272959778.538238.1474228525751@mail.yahoo.com> <295454631.550726.1474231370469@mail.yahoo.com> <1932042648.824043.1474257878530@mail.yahoo.com> <1195554823.2436953.1474426526566@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <448671910.2482822.1474427304367@mail.yahoo.com> As a preemptive follow up: I misread an email by Morton as being from Stephen, my apologies. It does not change my views on either of your comments, however. Further apologies for having to send out another email.  Muhammad Yousuf On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:56 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss wrote: To be completely frank, it seems that you are reading more controversy into the demands than is actually present, Carl. We've been doing what works for the communities here at UIUC in order to gain support and maintain a sustainable movement. But hey, believe what you will from the armchair. Demand 13 specifically is a way to stop the University's support of warmongers. If you took the time to think about what an "anti-war" University would look like, I bet you'd end up with something damn close to demand 13. Lose your elitism. Stephen: do you seriously think we plan to implement these demands immediately? We understand that the process of building a student movement capable of putting these demands in action, much less implementing them, will be a years long process. It is also ironic that we are somehow "arrogant" and "tone deaf"--if only you were more in-the-loop regarding student activism here at UIUC (aside from peddling your "global Zionism" conspiracy theories that is) then you'd understand the movement we have built and the measures we are willing to take to achieve our goals. To reiterate, the demands are a living document. We are willing to make additions and edits to wording if met with constructive criticism and true concern, not the vague and disingenuous bullshit that most of these emails comprise of. Like I said, if you have a comment--reach out. For example, we will likely be adding a 14th demand regarding mental health services on campus. If you'd like to be involved in this process as a community member, we're more than glad to work with you. However please also keep in mind the tangible nature of the demands as being specific to what we can change about the University.  It's sad that for many of my fellow student organizers these interactions will be the first they have with AWARE--these episodes are not only a poor reflection of you both but also of AWARE as a whole. Suffice it to say that it leaves us with a bad taste in our mouths.  Muhammad Yousuf On Monday, September 19, 2016 8:21 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: Resending with the proper subject title. On Sep 19, 2016, at 05:30, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: My recent discussions with David Johnson lend  me to believe that the intent of the demands is to end discrimination against all, not just the privileged few, and to extend a “revolution” beyond the U of I. I understand the demands can not be rewritten however I would like to suggest an amendment be added. If a #14 demand was added as an amendment “we demand the U of I not support wars and militarization and ensure freedom of speech and truth be the goal of a university education.”  I would gladly support  it.  On Sep 18, 2016, at 22:11, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote: Mr. Yousuf: AWARE ("Anti-war Anti-racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana”) was asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC. The suggestion has been discussed by email and at the regular Sunday night meeting of AWARE. Since its founding 15 years ago, AWARE has functioned by informal consensus rather than votes, and no vote was taken on the proposal, but there was no consensus that AWARE should add our name to the list of endorsers.  The principal reason was the specificity of AWARE’s remit as an antiwar organization - and a corresponding reluctance to risk distraction from it. Several members of AWARE were also disturbed by the demands’ being couched in the terms of identity politics. The rhetoric of ‘intersectionality’ - “being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are” - seems an inadequate attempt to put the Humpty Dumpty of American liberalism back together again, after it’s fallen off the wall of class politics that was its base from the 1930s to the 1970s. (Neoliberalism pushed it, of course.)     Since the Obama administration has enlarged the wars it was elected to end - and the new administration will probably do more of the same - AWARE welcomes support from BSFR and allied organizations in opposing and ending the international crimes of the government for which we are responsible - and which remains, as ML King said long ago, “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.”  And we wish all those organizations success with the truly progressive campaigns they undertake in the university and the community. Regards, C. G. Estabrook   On Sep 18, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss wrote: Hello all, I think some major clarification is needed. I've been the head of SJP at UIUC for the past two years, and I'm also a co-author of the 13th demand on the list. I want to be very clear that these demands are fully endorsed by SJP, but AWARE's consideration of them should not be conditional on that fact. BSFR has been an incredibly strong organizing force on campus since their formation last year, and have deep ties to the local chapter of Black Lives Matter. These demands are specifically aimed at galvanizing a movement on campus to force the University to make changes which are necessary. To answer what seems to be Carl's main concern, we as a collective of organizations are completely anti-war and anti-imperialist in all forms. The reason the demands do not specifically mention this is because that is simply beyond the purview of what we aim to accomplish, i.e., a "transformed University". The changes which we seek to implement on campus are reflective of those which we think our society as a whole needs, but made to fit the specific needs of this University and its students, staff, and community members with intentional focus on the most marginalized of these groups. I sincerely hope you don't take us to be so foolish as to think we write off the role the US has had in propagating violence both within and outside this nations borders. Furthermore, SJP and the demands themselves are explicitly in support of the BDS movement and do not see this as a sort of "ethical capitalism" but rather as a first step to eventually deconstructing the militaristic structures which enable countries like the United States and Israel to exact their state-sanctioned terrorism around the world.  I also view these accusations of identity politicking as hasty and disingenuous at best and seriously ignorant at worse. We are being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are. Of the 26 or so groups who have officially signed on to the demands, representatives of at least 10 of them were involved in the writing and research process. While I hope AWARE will come to the conclusion of endorsing the demands, we will not make room for the incredible rudeness and "holier-than-thou" rhetoric which this email thread is rife with. If you have specific questions or concerns on the wording or content of the demands, please communicate with BSFR (http://www.bsfruiuc.com/contact-us) or SJP (sjp.uiuc at gmail.com) directly rather than speculate on our behalves and on the behalf of all the co-signed groups.  Muhammad Yousuf […] On Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to    peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit    https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to    peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at    peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:  1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider    supporting the      13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC (C. G. Estabrook) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:03:18 -0500 From: "C. G. Estabrook" To: David Johnson Cc: peace , Peace-discuss List     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider    supporting the 13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC Message-ID: <2F770B4C-7D53-4473-B519-9CC6F97956FD at newsfromneptune.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David— You suggest that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community.” That’s true if and only if the community is taken to be represented by Democratic liberals from Tammy Duckworth thru Mark Wicklund to Carol Ammons. AWARE rejects their objective support for Bush-Obama-Clinton war-making (see e.g. >). AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire.  AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American racists." The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson wrote: Gus Wood is one of the founding members. They organized last Fall 2015  They have repeatedly in their public speeches  ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. David Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu]  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM To: David Johnson Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC Who are they and what's their history? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson wrote: Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class  based ; 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. This is called " CLASS based intersectionality "  as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. BIG difference ! For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. David Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of  Carl G. Estabrook via Peace Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM To: Peace-discuss List Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the  13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’?  A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” . It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. . AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says.  I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: Dear Peace-Discuss, At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) -- karen medina ------------------------------- 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. 2.  WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. 3.  WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review  the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. 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URL: From brussel at illinois.edu Wed Sep 21 04:08:41 2016 From: brussel at illinois.edu (Brussel, Morton K) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 04:08:41 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The "13 demands" question in relation to AWARE In-Reply-To: <448671910.2482822.1474427304367@mail.yahoo.com> References: <272959778.538238.1474228525751@mail.yahoo.com> <295454631.550726.1474231370469@mail.yahoo.com> <1932042648.824043.1474257878530@mail.yahoo.com> <1195554823.2436953.1474426526566@mail.yahoo.com> <448671910.2482822.1474427304367@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Unless “demands" are accompanied by actionable threats, they are probably futile; they tend to antagonize those with whom you may have to deal. Except for a revolution—but this is not 1917 or even 1776, or…. I would suggest “it is necessary (or urgent, or advisable or…) that…” instead of “demand". But I suppose that this is too mild, not militant enough, for you all. Aside from language, I think that you haven’t thought through the possible consequences of various of your demands on the university. I can’t go through all of them, but just taking demand #1: If the state or donors do not fund the university, then with no tuition rises, there will have to be reductions in services and staff to run the place and maintain the quality of instruction. What do you have in mind here? The demand is fatuous by itself. Similar remarks can be made elsewhere. —mkb On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:08 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss > wrote: As a preemptive follow up: I misread an email by Morton as being from Stephen, my apologies. It does not change my views on either of your comments, however. Further apologies for having to send out another email. Muhammad Yousuf On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:56 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss > wrote: To be completely frank, it seems that you are reading more controversy into the demands than is actually present, Carl. We've been doing what works for the communities here at UIUC in order to gain support and maintain a sustainable movement. But hey, believe what you will from the armchair. Demand 13 specifically is a way to stop the University's support of warmongers. If you took the time to think about what an "anti-war" University would look like, I bet you'd end up with something damn close to demand 13. Lose your elitism. Stephen: do you seriously think we plan to implement these demands immediately? We understand that the process of building a student movement capable of putting these demands in action, much less implementing them, will be a years long process. It is also ironic that we are somehow "arrogant" and "tone deaf"--if only you were more in-the-loop regarding student activism here at UIUC (aside from peddling your "global Zionism" conspiracy theories that is) then you'd understand the movement we have built and the measures we are willing to take to achieve our goals. To reiterate, the demands are a living document. We are willing to make additions and edits to wording if met with constructive criticism and true concern, not the vague and disingenuous bullshit that most of these emails comprise of. Like I said, if you have a comment--reach out. For example, we will likely be adding a 14th demand regarding mental health services on campus. If you'd like to be involved in this process as a community member, we're more than glad to work with you. However please also keep in mind the tangible nature of the demands as being specific to what we can change about the University. It's sad that for many of my fellow student organizers these interactions will be the first they have with AWARE--these episodes are not only a poor reflection of you both but also of AWARE as a whole. Suffice it to say that it leaves us with a bad taste in our mouths. Muhammad Yousuf On Monday, September 19, 2016 8:21 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: Resending with the proper subject title. On Sep 19, 2016, at 05:30, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: My recent discussions with David Johnson lend me to believe that the intent of the demands is to end discrimination against all, not just the privileged few, and to extend a “revolution” beyond the U of I. I understand the demands can not be rewritten however I would like to suggest an amendment be added. If a #14 demand was added as an amendment “we demand the U of I not support wars and militarization and ensure freedom of speech and truth be the goal of a university education.” I would gladly support it. On Sep 18, 2016, at 22:11, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > wrote: Mr. Yousuf: AWARE ("Anti-war Anti-racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana”) was asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC. The suggestion has been discussed by email and at the regular Sunday night meeting of AWARE. Since its founding 15 years ago, AWARE has functioned by informal consensus rather than votes, and no vote was taken on the proposal, but there was no consensus that AWARE should add our name to the list of endorsers. The principal reason was the specificity of AWARE’s remit as an antiwar organization - and a corresponding reluctance to risk distraction from it. Several members of AWARE were also disturbed by the demands’ being couched in the terms of identity politics. The rhetoric of ‘intersectionality’ - “being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are” - seems an inadequate attempt to put the Humpty Dumpty of American liberalism back together again, after it’s fallen off the wall of class politics that was its base from the 1930s to the 1970s. (Neoliberalism pushed it, of course.) Since the Obama administration has enlarged the wars it was elected to end - and the new administration will probably do more of the same - AWARE welcomes support from BSFR and allied organizations in opposing and ending the international crimes of the government for which we are responsible - and which remains, as ML King said long ago, “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.” And we wish all those organizations success with the truly progressive campaigns they undertake in the university and the community. Regards, C. G. Estabrook On Sep 18, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss > wrote: Hello all, I think some major clarification is needed. I've been the head of SJP at UIUC for the past two years, and I'm also a co-author of the 13th demand on the list. I want to be very clear that these demands are fully endorsed by SJP, but AWARE's consideration of them should not be conditional on that fact. BSFR has been an incredibly strong organizing force on campus since their formation last year, and have deep ties to the local chapter of Black Lives Matter. These demands are specifically aimed at galvanizing a movement on campus to force the University to make changes which are necessary. To answer what seems to be Carl's main concern, we as a collective of organizations are completely anti-war and anti-imperialist in all forms. The reason the demands do not specifically mention this is because that is simply beyond the purview of what we aim to accomplish, i.e., a "transformed University". The changes which we seek to implement on campus are reflective of those which we think our society as a whole needs, but made to fit the specific needs of this University and its students, staff, and community members with intentional focus on the most marginalized of these groups. I sincerely hope you don't take us to be so foolish as to think we write off the role the US has had in propagating violence both within and outside this nations borders. Furthermore, SJP and the demands themselves are explicitly in support of the BDS movement and do not see this as a sort of "ethical capitalism" but rather as a first step to eventually deconstructing the militaristic structures which enable countries like the United States and Israel to exact their state-sanctioned terrorism around the world. I also view these accusations of identity politicking as hasty and disingenuous at best and seriously ignorant at worse. We are being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are. Of the 26 or so groups who have officially signed on to the demands, representatives of at least 10 of them were involved in the writing and research process. While I hope AWARE will come to the conclusion of endorsing the demands, we will not make room for the incredible rudeness and "holier-than-thou" rhetoric which this email thread is rife with. If you have specific questions or concerns on the wording or content of the demands, please communicate with BSFR (http://www.bsfruiuc.com/contact-us) or SJP (sjp.uiuc at gmail.com) directly rather than speculate on our behalves and on the behalf of all the co-signed groups. Muhammad Yousuf […] On Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" > wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC (C. G. Estabrook) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:03:18 -0500 From: "C. G. Estabrook" > To: David Johnson > Cc: peace >, Peace-discuss List > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC Message-ID: <2F770B4C-7D53-4473-B519-9CC6F97956FD at newsfromneptune.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David— You suggest that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community.” That’s true if and only if the community is taken to be represented by Democratic liberals from Tammy Duckworth thru Mark Wicklund to Carol Ammons. AWARE rejects their objective support for Bush-Obama-Clinton war-making (see e.g. >>). AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire. AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American racists." The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson > wrote: Gus Wood is one of the founding members. They organized last Fall 2015 They have repeatedly in their public speeches ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. David Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM To: David Johnson Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC Who are they and what's their history? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson > wrote: Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class based ; 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. This is called " CLASS based intersectionality " as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. BIG difference ! For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. David Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM To: Peace-discuss List Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” >. It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. >. AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace > wrote: Dear Peace-Discuss, At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) -- karen medina ------------------------------- 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. 2. WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. 3. WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. 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URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 21 10:12:09 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 10:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 142 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <462249741.2078197.1474452729280@mail.yahoo.com> Well, I was wrong about there not being any controlled opposition....didn't do my homework...learn something every day they say...This article helps: | Why Do Conservatives and Hate Groups Know So Much About Critical Theory?Critical-Theory.comand the last paragraph: "So why do conservatives know so much about critical theory? It seems like the idea that the left re-emerges on the right might have some credence.  We’ve seen the bizarre convergences of anarchists with libertarians, and how Foucauldian critiques of power can be appropriated by white supremacy groups. It’s only surprising that people conservative conspiracy theorists are reading Herbert Marcuse in their spare time."I'm not a conservative, white supremacist or a neoNazi, just an antiwar activist.... I just follow the money and motives behind political thought in order to determine who is helping the cause and who is not. The subject I've brought up about the influence of Marxist thought (Cultural Marxism) in the academic environment is no trivial matter. Its connections to funding and the effect of that funding on political philosophy is enormous.Mr. Yousuf's remark "...peddling your "global Zionism" conspiracy theories..." hits the nail on the head and confirms that not biting the hand that feeds you still is a bedrock principle that will never go away.The victims up to this point have been minorities, but considering the effects of that "global Zionism" funding of mass immigration (except Palestine), the tide is turning, exactly as planned.Donald Trump (whom I'm no fan of and don't trust) has definitely upset the 'establishment' as confirmed by the attached article. This confirms the poignancy of including the attached article. I doubt seriously he is a student of Cultural Marxism, but some of his advisors may be. His tens of millions followers smell a rat, and the stench has permeated the whole political atmosphere of America. | | | | | | | | | | | | Why Do Conservatives and Hate Groups Know So Much About Critical Theory?C... As painful holidays with your family probably show, conservatives are all about hyper-vigilance of anything Karl... | | | | On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:09 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: The "13 demands" question in relation to AWARE       (Brussel, Morton K) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 04:08:41 +0000 From: "Brussel, Morton K" To: Muhammad Yousuf Cc: "peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net"     , "C. G. Estabrook"     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] The "13 demands" question in relation to     AWARE Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Unless “demands" are accompanied by actionable threats, they are probably futile; they tend to antagonize those with whom you may have to deal. Except for a revolution—but this is not 1917 or even 1776, or…. I would suggest “it is necessary (or urgent, or advisable or…) that…” instead of  “demand". But I suppose that this is too mild, not militant enough, for you all. Aside from language, I think that you haven’t thought through the possible consequences of various of your demands on the university. I can’t go through all of them, but just taking demand #1: If the state or donors do not fund the university, then with no tuition rises, there will have to be reductions in services and staff to run the place and maintain the quality of instruction. What do you have in mind here? The demand is fatuous by itself. Similar remarks can be made elsewhere. —mkb On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:08 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss > wrote: As a preemptive follow up: I misread an email by Morton as being from Stephen, my apologies. It does not change my views on either of your comments, however. Further apologies for having to send out another email. Muhammad Yousuf On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:56 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss > wrote: To be completely frank, it seems that you are reading more controversy into the demands than is actually present, Carl. We've been doing what works for the communities here at UIUC in order to gain support and maintain a sustainable movement. But hey, believe what you will from the armchair. Demand 13 specifically is a way to stop the University's support of warmongers. If you took the time to think about what an "anti-war" University would look like, I bet you'd end up with something damn close to demand 13. Lose your elitism. Stephen: do you seriously think we plan to implement these demands immediately? We understand that the process of building a student movement capable of putting these demands in action, much less implementing them, will be a years long process. It is also ironic that we are somehow "arrogant" and "tone deaf"--if only you were more in-the-loop regarding student activism here at UIUC (aside from peddling your "global Zionism" conspiracy theories that is) then you'd understand the movement we have built and the measures we are willing to take to achieve our goals. To reiterate, the demands are a living document. We are willing to make additions and edits to wording if met with constructive criticism and true concern, not the vague and disingenuous bullshit that most of these emails comprise of. Like I said, if you have a comment--reach out. For example, we will likely be adding a 14th demand regarding mental health services on campus. If you'd like to be involved in this process as a community member, we're more than glad to work with you. However please also keep in mind the tangible nature of the demands as being specific to what we can change about the University.  It's sad that for many of my fellow student organizers these interactions will be the first they have with AWARE--these episodes are not only a poor reflection of you both but also of AWARE as a whole. Suffice it to say that it leaves us with a bad taste in our mouths. Muhammad Yousuf On Monday, September 19, 2016 8:21 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: Resending with the proper subject title. On Sep 19, 2016, at 05:30, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: My recent discussions with David Johnson lend  me to believe that the intent of the demands is to end discrimination against all, not just the privileged few, and to extend a “revolution” beyond the U of I. I understand the demands can not be rewritten however I would like to suggest an amendment be added. If a #14 demand was added as an amendment “we demand the U of I not support wars and militarization and ensure freedom of speech and truth be the goal of a university education.”  I would gladly support  it. On Sep 18, 2016, at 22:11, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > wrote: Mr. Yousuf: AWARE ("Anti-war Anti-racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana”) was asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC. The suggestion has been discussed by email and at the regular Sunday night meeting of AWARE. Since its founding 15 years ago, AWARE has functioned by informal consensus rather than votes, and no vote was taken on the proposal, but there was no consensus that AWARE should add our name to the list of endorsers. The principal reason was the specificity of AWARE’s remit as an antiwar organization - and a corresponding reluctance to risk distraction from it. Several members of AWARE were also disturbed by the demands’ being couched in the terms of identity politics. The rhetoric of ‘intersectionality’ - “being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are” - seems an inadequate attempt to put the Humpty Dumpty of American liberalism back together again, after it’s fallen off the wall of class politics that was its base from the 1930s to the 1970s. (Neoliberalism pushed it, of course.) Since the Obama administration has enlarged the wars it was elected to end - and the new administration will probably do more of the same - AWARE welcomes support from BSFR and allied organizations in opposing and ending the international crimes of the government for which we are responsible - and which remains, as ML King said long ago, “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.”  And we wish all those organizations success with the truly progressive campaigns they undertake in the university and the community. Regards, C. G. Estabrook On Sep 18, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Muhammad Yousuf via Peace-discuss > wrote: Hello all, I think some major clarification is needed. I've been the head of SJP at UIUC for the past two years, and I'm also a co-author of the 13th demand on the list. I want to be very clear that these demands are fully endorsed by SJP, but AWARE's consideration of them should not be conditional on that fact. BSFR has been an incredibly strong organizing force on campus since their formation last year, and have deep ties to the local chapter of Black Lives Matter. These demands are specifically aimed at galvanizing a movement on campus to force the University to make changes which are necessary. To answer what seems to be Carl's main concern, we as a collective of organizations are completely anti-war and anti-imperialist in all forms. The reason the demands do not specifically mention this is because that is simply beyond the purview of what we aim to accomplish, i.e., a "transformed University". The changes which we seek to implement on campus are reflective of those which we think our society as a whole needs, but made to fit the specific needs of this University and its students, staff, and community members with intentional focus on the most marginalized of these groups. I sincerely hope you don't take us to be so foolish as to think we write off the role the US has had in propagating violence both within and outside this nations borders. Furthermore, SJP and the demands themselves are explicitly in support of the BDS movement and do not see this as a sort of "ethical capitalism" but rather as a first step to eventually deconstructing the militaristic structures which enable countries like the United States and Israel to exact their state-sanctioned terrorism around the world. I also view these accusations of identity politicking as hasty and disingenuous at best and seriously ignorant at worse. We are being attentive to the needs of various communities by incorporating what each of those communities has explicitly stated its needs are. Of the 26 or so groups who have officially signed on to the demands, representatives of at least 10 of them were involved in the writing and research process. While I hope AWARE will come to the conclusion of endorsing the demands, we will not make room for the incredible rudeness and "holier-than-thou" rhetoric which this email thread is rife with. If you have specific questions or concerns on the wording or content of the demands, please communicate with BSFR (http://www.bsfruiuc.com/contact-us) or SJP (sjp.uiuc at gmail.com) directly rather than speculate on our behalves and on the behalf of all the co-signed groups. Muhammad Yousuf […] On Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:04 PM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" > wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to   peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit   https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to   peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at   peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider    supporting the     13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC (C. G. Estabrook) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:03:18 -0500 From: "C. G. Estabrook" > To: David Johnson > Cc: peace >, Peace-discuss List   > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider   supporting the 13    demands of the BSFR at UIUC Message-ID: <2F770B4C-7D53-4473-B519-9CC6F97956FD at newsfromneptune.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David— You suggest that "AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community.” That’s true if and only if the community is taken to be represented by Democratic liberals from Tammy Duckworth thru Mark Wicklund to Carol Ammons. AWARE rejects their objective support for Bush-Obama-Clinton war-making (see e.g. >>). AWARE has claimed from its inception to represent the real interests of our neighbors in opposing the Bush-Obama government's ongoing wars and the racism they inspire. AWARE has criticized the disingenuous assertion of identity politics that the issue is a free-floating problem of race relations, unconnected to the economy and war - a view that serves to defend neoliberal economics and neocon war, which have characterized both administrations - and also probably the next. The major historical parallel is adduced by the historian Barbara Fields: "Probably a majority of American historians think of slavery in the United States as primarily a system of race relations—as though the chief business of slavery were the production of white supremacy rather than the production of cotton, sugar, rice and tobacco. One historian has gone so far as to call slavery ‘the ultimate segregator’. He does not ask why Europeans seeking the ‘ultimate’ method of segregating Africans would go to the trouble and expense of transporting them across the ocean for that purpose, when they could have achieved the same end so much more simply by leaving the Africans in Africa. No one dreams of analysing the struggle of the English against the Irish as a problem in race relations, even though the rationale that the English developed for suppressing the ‘barbarous’ Irish later served nearly word for word as a rationale for suppressing Africans and indigenous American Indians. Nor does anyone dream of analysing serfdom in Russia as primarily a problem of race relations, even though the Russian nobility invented fictions of their innate, natural superiority over the serfs as preposterous as any devised by American racists." The question is whether endorsement of these demands advances AWARE’s anti-war anti-racism program. It may, but I’m not convinced it does; it may serve as a distraction. —CGE On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:42 AM, David Johnson > wrote: Gus Wood is one of the founding members. They organized last Fall 2015 They have repeatedly in their public speeches  ( the founding rally last Fall and the more recent May Day rally ) have specifically spoke out against capitalism, austerity, police militarization, and racism / white supremacy ( and made a specific clear distinction between white supremacy and being " anti-white " ). Of the individuals I know in the group who are the main founders and organizers, they are all anti-war. Do we want to split hairs here as to if they represent / advocate for ALL of AWARE's demands or do we find common ground with the fact that they share almost all of our values and goals. Anti-authoritarian, anti racist and anti capitalist. After all, part of AWARE's name is " anti-racism ". The concern about supporting liberal identity politics group is a legitimate concern, as those of you know me, know that I hate liberal identity politics, and I wouldn't be asking this of AWARE if I didn't think they were deserving of support. Also, for whatever reason, AWARE has gained a reputation of being aloof from the community. An endorsement of the black Students for Revolution ( primarily for the reasons I stated above ) would help greatly in countering that misconception. Do what you want, but in my humble opinion, this would be a good move. David Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:56 AM To: David Johnson Cc: davegreen84 at yahoo.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; kmedina67 at gmail.com; Ron Szoke; stuartnlevy at gmail.com; salevy at illinois.edu Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC Who are they and what's their history? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:35 AM, David Johnson > wrote: Black Students for Revolution is NOT an Identity Politics organization ! I have been conversing and interacting with many of the students in this organization for some time now. They are unabashed ANTI-CAPITALISTS ! They have stated this publicly on many occasions, in particular at the recent May Day rally on campus. The following demands in the list also indicates that they are class based ; 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. 2. >> WE DEMAND that the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and ECONOMIC demographics of Illinois by 2032. 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. They of course advocate for African American rights, which is understandable, but they do NOT just focus on that, like an identity politics organization would. As you see they have at it's core a class based economic agenda / demands. They also as an organization have worked and supported the rights of the Palestinian people and the local U of I organization " Students for Justice in Palestine. This is called " CLASS based intersectionality "  as opposed to JUST intersectionality with NO class base, which is merely a smogasboard of identity politics groups. BIG difference ! For the reasons stated above, I think we SHOULD endorse the Black Students for Revolution. I hate identity politics , in particular how it is used by neo-liberals to divide us, and I would not advocate for any organization that was not class based and anti-capitalist and anti war. Remember, police militarization and brutality is the counterpart of the policy of endless war. David Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:35 PM To: Peace-discuss List Cc: Brussel, Morton K; Karen Medina; peace Subject: Re: [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal, online and perhaps in several meetings. The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's antiwar remit? But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know of ‘Black Students for Revolution’? A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’ I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’ came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs. The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign). See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat clotted prose): "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature. "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do. As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were LGBT people. "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in service to, the ruling class” >. It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?) It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we should be clear about causes. >. AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur says. I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort. —CGE On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace > wrote: Dear Peace-Discuss, At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands. http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then) -- karen medina ------------------------------- 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes. 2. WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students, faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois by 2032. 3. WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms of sexual violence. 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies programs. 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based demographics as an official population. 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding with the less expensive standard housing option. 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct gender and race-based pay inequality 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation. 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child. 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the surrounding communities. 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign. 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box). 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially and politically negligent corporations. 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Obama’s rambling speech, which at times appeared to be ad-libbed, was an exercise in self-contradiction and absurd lies, with Obama’s depiction of the current geopolitical situation standing reality on its head. He declared, with a straight face, “Our international order has been so successful that we take it as a given that great powers no longer fight world wars; that the end of the Cold War lifted the shadow of nuclear Armageddon; that the battlefields of Europe have been replaced by peaceful union.” With due apologies to Shakespeare, some people are born liars, others become liars, others have lies thrust upon them, but all three definitions apply to the current president of the United States. Obama’s proclamation that the “shadow of nuclear Armageddon” has passed flies in the face not only of his own $1 trillion nuclear rearmament program, but the proclamation of the Union of Concerned Scientists that the US and China are “a few poor decisions away from starting a war that could escalate rapidly and end in a nuclear exchange.” The president, moreover, did not mention that the “peaceful union” that replaced “the battlefields of Europe” was in the midst of dissolution amid growing national antagonisms. Obama was speaking at the first UN General Assembly to take place since the vote by Britain in June 2016 to leave the European Union, giving rise to demands for copycat votes throughout Europe and warnings of a break-up of the entire Eurozone. As for “the battlefields of Europe,” NATO is moving ahead with its deployment of 4,000 troops to the Russian border, with high ranking NATO officials announcing this weekend that all of the troops will be in place by May. Behind the scenes, in the documents of military think tanks, such border troops are spoken of as “tripwires,” creating the rationale for military escalation by NATO in the event of a conflict between the Baltic States and Russia, substantially increasing the chances of a full-scale war between the two most powerful nuclear powers. A substantial portion of Obama’s remarks were devoted to hurling barbs at Russia, tacitly asserting that it is a society “that asks less of oligarchs than ordinary citizens” and declaring that Russia is “attempting to recover lost glory through force.” But these declarations would have been directed far more appropriately at the US, the most unequal developed country in the world. The American ruling class has been engaged in unending war in the effort to counter its long-term economic decline. Obama framed his remarks as a reflection on the past eight years of his administration, as well as on the 25 years that have passed since the dissolution of the USSR. “A quarter century after the end of the Cold War, the world is by many measures less violent and more prosperous than ever before,” Obama declared, adding that the US has “been a force for good” over this period. Contrary to Obama’s half-hearted declarations, the past quarter century has abjectly failed to live up to the proponents of capitalist triumphalism, who declared that the fall of the USSR would usher in a new era of peace and democracy. The US, far from being “a force for good” over this period, has been the single greatest purveyor of destabilization, violence and disorder. Beginning with the First Gulf War in 1991, the US has been perpetually at war, having bombed or invaded Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Yugoslavia, Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya, Yemen and Syria, and carried out destabilization operations in countless other countries. These wars are now metastasizing into an increasingly direct conflict with Russia and China. This is accompanied by the militarization of the major imperialist powers, including Japan and Germany, as ruling classes throughout the world prepare for military conflict. The General Assembly opened in the aftermath of Saturday’s bombing of a Syrian army base by the US military, in a flagrant violation of the ceasefire brokered between the US and its proxies on one side, and the Syrian government, backed by Russia, on the other. The attack led to over 90 fatalities and was carried out with the assistance of British, Australian and German forces, potentially embroiling these countries in a military conflict with Russia. The bombing took place as Turkish President Erdogan, Washington’s ally in the Syria conflict, said Monday that Turkey plans to dramatically expand the area of Syria under its direct control by more than five-fold, to 5,000 square kilometers. US ground forces are fighting alongside Turkish-backed insurgents, raising the danger of a clash between Russian forces operating in Northern Syria and US ground troops fighting alongside Turkey. But the conflict in Syria is just one in an innumerable series of global flashpoints throughout Europe and Asia. Last week, Japan announced it would participate in US-led patrols in the disputed South China Sea, sparking condemnation from China, which Japan invaded and occupied in the run-up to World War II. Meanwhile in Kashmir, 11 more people were killed in recent days following an attack Sunday that left 18 Indian soldiers dead, in the heaviest fighting in years in the region. Were the conflict, escalated to a fever pitch by the US-led “Pivot to Asia,” to escalate into a war between India and Pakistan, it would be the first ever war between two nuclear-armed powers. Any one of these or other complex conflicts—in which multiple countries are each engaged in low-level proxy fighting and jockeying for their regional interests—risks sparking an uncontrolled escalation, like the conflict that began in the Balkans in June 1914. Obama intended to make his speech an account of the “progress that we’ve made these last eight years.” In the end, all he succeeded in doing was to emphasize how much closer to global war the world has come during his administration. Andre Damon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 21 12:06:39 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 12:06:39 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Has anyone noticed? Message-ID: UN General Assembly convenes amid global military escalation 21 September 2016 The 71st United Nations General Assembly convened this week beneath the shadow of a series of global crises that threaten to throw humanity into a new world war. This was the backdrop against which US President Barack Obama gave his final address to the Assembly on Tuesday. Obama’s rambling speech, which at times appeared to be ad-libbed, was an exercise in self-contradiction and absurd lies, with Obama’s depiction of the current geopolitical situation standing reality on its head. He declared, with a straight face, “Our international order has been so successful that we take it as a given that great powers no longer fight world wars; that the end of the Cold War lifted the shadow of nuclear Armageddon; that the battlefields of Europe have been replaced by peaceful union.” With due apologies to Shakespeare, some people are born liars, others become liars, others have lies thrust upon them, but all three definitions apply to the current president of the United States. Obama’s proclamation that the “shadow of nuclear Armageddon” has passed flies in the face not only of his own $1 trillion nuclear rearmament program, but the proclamation of the Union of Concerned Scientists that the US and China are “a few poor decisions away from starting a war that could escalate rapidly and end in a nuclear exchange.” The president, moreover, did not mention that the “peaceful union” that replaced “the battlefields of Europe” was in the midst of dissolution amid growing national antagonisms. Obama was speaking at the first UN General Assembly to take place since the vote by Britain in June 2016 to leave the European Union, giving rise to demands for copycat votes throughout Europe and warnings of a break-up of the entire Eurozone. As for “the battlefields of Europe,” NATO is moving ahead with its deployment of 4,000 troops to the Russian border, with high ranking NATO officials announcing this weekend that all of the troops will be in place by May. Behind the scenes, in the documents of military think tanks, such border troops are spoken of as “tripwires,” creating the rationale for military escalation by NATO in the event of a conflict between the Baltic States and Russia, substantially increasing the chances of a full-scale war between the two most powerful nuclear powers. A substantial portion of Obama’s remarks were devoted to hurling barbs at Russia, tacitly asserting that it is a society “that asks less of oligarchs than ordinary citizens” and declaring that Russia is “attempting to recover lost glory through force.” But these declarations would have been directed far more appropriately at the US, the most unequal developed country in the world. The American ruling class has been engaged in unending war in the effort to counter its long-term economic decline. Obama framed his remarks as a reflection on the past eight years of his administration, as well as on the 25 years that have passed since the dissolution of the USSR. “A quarter century after the end of the Cold War, the world is by many measures less violent and more prosperous than ever before,” Obama declared, adding that the US has “been a force for good” over this period. Contrary to Obama’s half-hearted declarations, the past quarter century has abjectly failed to live up to the proponents of capitalist triumphalism, who declared that the fall of the USSR would usher in a new era of peace and democracy. The US, far from being “a force for good” over this period, has been the single greatest purveyor of destabilization, violence and disorder. Beginning with the First Gulf War in 1991, the US has been perpetually at war, having bombed or invaded Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Yugoslavia, Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya, Yemen and Syria, and carried out destabilization operations in countless other countries. These wars are now metastasizing into an increasingly direct conflict with Russia and China. This is accompanied by the militarization of the major imperialist powers, including Japan and Germany, as ruling classes throughout the world prepare for military conflict. The General Assembly opened in the aftermath of Saturday’s bombing of a Syrian army base by the US military, in a flagrant violation of the ceasefire brokered between the US and its proxies on one side, and the Syrian government, backed by Russia, on the other. The attack led to over 90 fatalities and was carried out with the assistance of British, Australian and German forces, potentially embroiling these countries in a military conflict with Russia. The bombing took place as Turkish President Erdogan, Washington’s ally in the Syria conflict, said Monday that Turkey plans to dramatically expand the area of Syria under its direct control by more than five-fold, to 5,000 square kilometers. US ground forces are fighting alongside Turkish-backed insurgents, raising the danger of a clash between Russian forces operating in Northern Syria and US ground troops fighting alongside Turkey. But the conflict in Syria is just one in an innumerable series of global flashpoints throughout Europe and Asia. Last week, Japan announced it would participate in US-led patrols in the disputed South China Sea, sparking condemnation from China, which Japan invaded and occupied in the run-up to World War II. Meanwhile in Kashmir, 11 more people were killed in recent days following an attack Sunday that left 18 Indian soldiers dead, in the heaviest fighting in years in the region. Were the conflict, escalated to a fever pitch by the US-led “Pivot to Asia,” to escalate into a war between India and Pakistan, it would be the first ever war between two nuclear-armed powers. Any one of these or other complex conflicts—in which multiple countries are each engaged in low-level proxy fighting and jockeying for their regional interests—risks sparking an uncontrolled escalation, like the conflict that began in the Balkans in June 1914. Obama intended to make his speech an account of the “progress that we’ve made these last eight years.” In the end, all he succeeded in doing was to emphasize how much closer to global war the world has come during his administration. Andre Damon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 21 12:30:56 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 12:30:56 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] TTP, TTIP now rebranded as TISA or is it just a sibling, note the word "just". Message-ID: Greenpeace Netherlands exposed the threats to democracy and climate action contained within the little-known Trade in Services Agreement (TISA) on Tuesday with new leaksdivulging several chapters of the clandestine global trade agreement. "It's a sad day for democracy when ordinary people are dependent on leaks to learn about the far-reaching consequences of toxic trade deals that are being cooked up behind closed doors," said Nick Dearden, head of the U.K.-based Global Justice Now. And TISA is perhaps the least well-known and most highly protected of the imminent agreements: "Somehow TISA is also even more secret than the notoriously covert CETA, TTIP and TPP deals, with parties unable to release details of negotiations until five years after it has taken effect," Greenpeace observes. These latest leaks "confirm what civil society groups, trade unions, and consumer watch dogs across the world have been warning against, that TISA is a turbo-charged privatization and deregulation deal that will enormously benefit corporations at the expense of ordinary people and democracy itself," Dearden added. Indeed, the leaks from the highly secretive deal—currently being negotiated by 50 nations around the world—affirm that with the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) on the ropes, other such "democracy-wrecking" deals are looming. "The deal, a spiritual and practical sibling of the much-maligned TTIP and TPP free trade agreements, is designed to drive deregulation across the vast global services sector,"observes Greenpeace, "increasing international trade in everything from banking to energy services." In its analysis (pdf) of the TISA leaks, Greenpeace explains that the deal's emphasis on deregulation presents a grave threat to countries' ability to adhere to the terms agreed upon in the Paris climate accord: Countries that sign up to TISA will be required to lock-in liberalization and could be prevented from rolling back failed policies due of two key clauses—the 'standstill' and 'ratchet' clauses. The standstill clause freezes the extent of liberalization in certain sectors, which means the markets of TISA state can never be less liberalized than they were at the time they signed the deal. Meanwhile the ratchet clause—which sometimes appears in other trade agreements—stops countries from reintroducing trade barriers that had been previously and unilaterally removed. Together these two clauses undermine the ability of governments to ever reverse the liberalization of services, even if elected on a mandate to do it. That means they could be stopped from testing liberalizing policies, since there would be no way to reversing them if things went awry. In order to make the objectives of the Paris Agreement a reality and in order to cut greenhouse gas emissions to the point where the worst impacts of climate change can be avoided, governments must be allowed to interfere and use all policy tools available to them. Arbitrarily locking governments into deregulation could have hugely negative impacts on their capacity to implement the kind of climate policies we need to stay within 1.5 degrees. Greenpeace also notes that while going "[w]idely unnoticed by the public, TISA could be finalized by the end of this year." "We now know that TISA will undermine COP21, further deregulate the financial sector, stop failed privatizations being brought back into public hands, and undermine data privacy laws," commented Rosa Pavanelli, general secretary of Public Service International. "What else are our governments keeping secret from us?" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 21 12:30:56 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 12:30:56 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] TTP, TTIP now rebranded as TISA or is it just a sibling, note the word "just". Message-ID: Greenpeace Netherlands exposed the threats to democracy and climate action contained within the little-known Trade in Services Agreement (TISA) on Tuesday with new leaksdivulging several chapters of the clandestine global trade agreement. "It's a sad day for democracy when ordinary people are dependent on leaks to learn about the far-reaching consequences of toxic trade deals that are being cooked up behind closed doors," said Nick Dearden, head of the U.K.-based Global Justice Now. And TISA is perhaps the least well-known and most highly protected of the imminent agreements: "Somehow TISA is also even more secret than the notoriously covert CETA, TTIP and TPP deals, with parties unable to release details of negotiations until five years after it has taken effect," Greenpeace observes. These latest leaks "confirm what civil society groups, trade unions, and consumer watch dogs across the world have been warning against, that TISA is a turbo-charged privatization and deregulation deal that will enormously benefit corporations at the expense of ordinary people and democracy itself," Dearden added. Indeed, the leaks from the highly secretive deal—currently being negotiated by 50 nations around the world—affirm that with the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) on the ropes, other such "democracy-wrecking" deals are looming. "The deal, a spiritual and practical sibling of the much-maligned TTIP and TPP free trade agreements, is designed to drive deregulation across the vast global services sector,"observes Greenpeace, "increasing international trade in everything from banking to energy services." In its analysis (pdf) of the TISA leaks, Greenpeace explains that the deal's emphasis on deregulation presents a grave threat to countries' ability to adhere to the terms agreed upon in the Paris climate accord: Countries that sign up to TISA will be required to lock-in liberalization and could be prevented from rolling back failed policies due of two key clauses—the 'standstill' and 'ratchet' clauses. The standstill clause freezes the extent of liberalization in certain sectors, which means the markets of TISA state can never be less liberalized than they were at the time they signed the deal. Meanwhile the ratchet clause—which sometimes appears in other trade agreements—stops countries from reintroducing trade barriers that had been previously and unilaterally removed. Together these two clauses undermine the ability of governments to ever reverse the liberalization of services, even if elected on a mandate to do it. That means they could be stopped from testing liberalizing policies, since there would be no way to reversing them if things went awry. In order to make the objectives of the Paris Agreement a reality and in order to cut greenhouse gas emissions to the point where the worst impacts of climate change can be avoided, governments must be allowed to interfere and use all policy tools available to them. Arbitrarily locking governments into deregulation could have hugely negative impacts on their capacity to implement the kind of climate policies we need to stay within 1.5 degrees. Greenpeace also notes that while going "[w]idely unnoticed by the public, TISA could be finalized by the end of this year." "We now know that TISA will undermine COP21, further deregulate the financial sector, stop failed privatizations being brought back into public hands, and undermine data privacy laws," commented Rosa Pavanelli, general secretary of Public Service International. 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About UIUC Student Greens [https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/c74.0.100.100/p100x100/14183726_605821299598667_2992080495996986385_n.png?oh=0db20ec4cbf657617c176e247895b62a&oe=588183A2] UIUC Student Greens Political Organization This is the student organization at the U of Illinois supporting the Green Party of the United States.R -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 21 12:39:34 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 12:39:34 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] UIUC Student Greens Event Message-ID: * clock Thursday, September 22 at 6 PM - 8 PM in CDT Tomorrow * pin School of Library and Information Science, 5th and Daniel, room 126 The UIUC Student Greens are hosting a panel event. Speakers include the Prairie Greens, Scott Summers (Illinois Green Party candidate for U.S. Senate), and music by HarryoftheEarth Music. All will be followed by a Q&A, so come with questions or discussion points! About UIUC Student Greens [https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/c74.0.100.100/p100x100/14183726_605821299598667_2992080495996986385_n.png?oh=0db20ec4cbf657617c176e247895b62a&oe=588183A2] UIUC Student Greens Political Organization This is the student organization at the U of Illinois supporting the Green Party of the United States.R -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 21 13:51:27 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 13:51:27 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently Message-ID: I attended what was supposed to be a talk on Constitutional Law last week at the COL U of I, by Prof. Anil Amar a Constitutional Law Professor at Yale University, and the brother of the Dean of the College of Law U of I. I was planning to raise questions related to the firing of Professor Salaita for exercising his "freedom of speech" on social media, and bringing in Harold “Killer” Koh, to campaign for his client Hillary Clinton only ten days before the election in violation of Illinois statues. It was Poli Sci 101 with Prof. Amar promoting his book and Hillary. Due to lack of time, he only took questions. Two people asked questions related to issues and law which he addressed with much discussion related to the electoral collage, former Pres. Lincoln and Obama, then progressing to disparaging third parties, blaming Nader for Bush and our current wars. He talked about how awful Trump is, and how moderate Hillary is and why we need her, even mentioning Tammy Duckworth as someone who should be supported. I restrained myself from walking out, and raised my hand instead. I asked "how can you support Hillary given her record as Sec. of State, responsible, along with Obama, for the death and destruction of thousands/millions of people of Libya, Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq?" and then asked again, "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how can you support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who has broken not only International law, but our laws, by extending the Bush wars to as many as 8 countries”? Then followed with "I came here expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the Democrats." He responded with “you’re exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising mine.” He then attempted to defend his position. He was clearly rattled, and floundering, though he was floundering all over the place from the very beginning, now worse. One of his most disturbing statements was in relation to his defense of Hillary and the destruction of Libya, “only five Americans died in Libya, emphasizing with fingers raised, "only five.” I guess to some, only American lives matter. The millions of non Americans the US is responsible for killing with impunity, and no remorse, sadly, don’t matter. He was then pulled off to another speaking engagement. From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 21 13:51:27 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 13:51:27 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently Message-ID: I attended what was supposed to be a talk on Constitutional Law last week at the COL U of I, by Prof. Anil Amar a Constitutional Law Professor at Yale University, and the brother of the Dean of the College of Law U of I. I was planning to raise questions related to the firing of Professor Salaita for exercising his "freedom of speech" on social media, and bringing in Harold “Killer” Koh, to campaign for his client Hillary Clinton only ten days before the election in violation of Illinois statues. It was Poli Sci 101 with Prof. Amar promoting his book and Hillary. Due to lack of time, he only took questions. Two people asked questions related to issues and law which he addressed with much discussion related to the electoral collage, former Pres. Lincoln and Obama, then progressing to disparaging third parties, blaming Nader for Bush and our current wars. He talked about how awful Trump is, and how moderate Hillary is and why we need her, even mentioning Tammy Duckworth as someone who should be supported. I restrained myself from walking out, and raised my hand instead. I asked "how can you support Hillary given her record as Sec. of State, responsible, along with Obama, for the death and destruction of thousands/millions of people of Libya, Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq?" and then asked again, "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how can you support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who has broken not only International law, but our laws, by extending the Bush wars to as many as 8 countries”? Then followed with "I came here expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the Democrats." He responded with “you’re exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising mine.” He then attempted to defend his position. He was clearly rattled, and floundering, though he was floundering all over the place from the very beginning, now worse. One of his most disturbing statements was in relation to his defense of Hillary and the destruction of Libya, “only five Americans died in Libya, emphasizing with fingers raised, "only five.” I guess to some, only American lives matter. The millions of non Americans the US is responsible for killing with impunity, and no remorse, sadly, don’t matter. He was then pulled off to another speaking engagement. From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 21 14:10:17 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:10:17 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] "Killer Koh" Message-ID: In relation to the U of I , COL bringing Harold “Killer” as he is known, Koh, to campaign for Hillary.[http://publici.ucimc.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/PiMasthead1.jpeg] Skip to content * About Us * Contributors * Sustainers * In Print (Archives) * UC-IMC * Have a comment, tip, photo or story idea? ← Activists Among Us: Claire Szoke CU Schools Need to Work Harder to Involve African American Parents → October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week Posted on September 2016 by Midge O'Brien [th] Harold Hongju Koh Harold Hongju Koh, Hillary Clinton’s former legal advisor at the State Department has been invited as an ‘endowed speaker’ at the U.I. College of Law, twelve days prior to the November election. Koh, currently a Yale Law School professor and former Dean, is a close friend of Yale Law School graduates Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was appointed by President Bill Clinton as Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor; and by President Obama, as senior legal advisor to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: he provided legal advice to her during the 2009 coup in Honduras, the 2011 US/NATO attack on Libya, and Obama’s ongoing drone assassinations – as well as damage-control in her email controversy. He won’t say what that advice was, claiming “attorney-client privilege” – despite the Supreme Court ruling against attorney-client confidences between government lawyers and government officials. An avid advocate of the targeted killing program, “Killer Koh” supports the legality of what he terms “extrajudicial killing” in Pakistan, Yemen and other Middle Eastern countries in the US “war on terror,” saying it complies “with all applicable law, including the laws of war,” and citing the ‘principle of proportionality’ in “taking great care in planning and execution to ensure that only ‘legitimate’ objectives are targeted and that collateral damage is kept to a minimum.” In a feeble attempt at transparency, the Obama administration recently released a modest admission that some “116 civilians” may have been victims of U. S. drone attacks – a figure that is not reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, journalists and human rights researchers, who have documented many thousands of casualties. President Obama said – in a revealing moment of self-reflection – “Turns out I’m really good at killing people … Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” (from Mark Halperin & John Heilemann, “Double Down: Game Change 2012”). If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s. Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted “President’s Policy Guidance” (PPG) on Obama’s program of targeted killings. The PPG stipulates that “nothing in this PPG shall be construed to prevent the President from exercising his Constitutional authority … to authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, imminent threat to another country’s persons.” (Killing US citizens requires specific approval by the President). Death lists are drawn up weekly by the ‘nominating committee’ and are reviewed by lawyers of the nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, NSC, officials of the State Department and “deputies and principals of the nominating committee”). Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take place, “active war zones” – Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan (it’s not clear if Libya is included) – do not require prior approval. With this protocol in place, the White House and the National Security Council are insulated from outside scrutiny, even by Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief can do anything s/he wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with the approval of hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license to kill. Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended extrajudicial killing as “due process under the Constitution in the age of moral and political degeneration.” In a speech at the Oxford Political Union in 2013 he said, “This Administration has not done enough to be transparent about the legal standards and decision making process … fostering a growing perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is not lawful and necessary…,” adding that this lack of transparency is counterproductive and has led to the “negative public image” of targeted killing. Does Prof. Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) PPG ordered by the Court provides the “transparency” to satisfy critics of the legality of targeted killing? Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and civil rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an “equal opportunist” as a legal advisor to Reagan, Clinton and Obama administrations – all of whom have violated the human rights of foreign nationals. He hardly represented human and civil rights as a member of the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel to the President in the Reagan administration, when that office justified violations of international law, the Charter of United Nations and the US Constitution, in grievous violation of human rights and attempts to destabilize the countries of Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from the International Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing Nicaraguan harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern Africa; and when it supported the South African apartheid government against its black population, supported Israel’s invasion and massacres of Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories – for which the US exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to sanctions against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its legal advisors refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead proliferating first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI (“star wars”) and MX missiles. Not a record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of political and international law poses the question, Is the University of Illinois College of Law – with its record of sanctions – qualified to educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. Koh’s character in these politically charged times? The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of murder and other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied territories, were liable to severe penalty whether or not they had engaged in military action. The Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. A reception to protest Professor Koh’s appearance is planned at the north courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the afternoon of October 28. (Midge O’Brien was an academic professional in U. of I. life science laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of Professional Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member of Nuclear Freeze, and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an anti-war activist since 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 21 14:10:17 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:10:17 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] "Killer Koh" Message-ID: In relation to the U of I , COL bringing Harold “Killer” as he is known, Koh, to campaign for Hillary.[http://publici.ucimc.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/PiMasthead1.jpeg] Skip to content * About Us * Contributors * Sustainers * In Print (Archives) * UC-IMC * Have a comment, tip, photo or story idea? ← Activists Among Us: Claire Szoke CU Schools Need to Work Harder to Involve African American Parents → October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week Posted on September 2016 by Midge O'Brien [th] Harold Hongju Koh Harold Hongju Koh, Hillary Clinton’s former legal advisor at the State Department has been invited as an ‘endowed speaker’ at the U.I. College of Law, twelve days prior to the November election. Koh, currently a Yale Law School professor and former Dean, is a close friend of Yale Law School graduates Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was appointed by President Bill Clinton as Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor; and by President Obama, as senior legal advisor to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: he provided legal advice to her during the 2009 coup in Honduras, the 2011 US/NATO attack on Libya, and Obama’s ongoing drone assassinations – as well as damage-control in her email controversy. He won’t say what that advice was, claiming “attorney-client privilege” – despite the Supreme Court ruling against attorney-client confidences between government lawyers and government officials. An avid advocate of the targeted killing program, “Killer Koh” supports the legality of what he terms “extrajudicial killing” in Pakistan, Yemen and other Middle Eastern countries in the US “war on terror,” saying it complies “with all applicable law, including the laws of war,” and citing the ‘principle of proportionality’ in “taking great care in planning and execution to ensure that only ‘legitimate’ objectives are targeted and that collateral damage is kept to a minimum.” In a feeble attempt at transparency, the Obama administration recently released a modest admission that some “116 civilians” may have been victims of U. S. drone attacks – a figure that is not reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, journalists and human rights researchers, who have documented many thousands of casualties. President Obama said – in a revealing moment of self-reflection – “Turns out I’m really good at killing people … Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” (from Mark Halperin & John Heilemann, “Double Down: Game Change 2012”). If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s. Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted “President’s Policy Guidance” (PPG) on Obama’s program of targeted killings. The PPG stipulates that “nothing in this PPG shall be construed to prevent the President from exercising his Constitutional authority … to authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, imminent threat to another country’s persons.” (Killing US citizens requires specific approval by the President). Death lists are drawn up weekly by the ‘nominating committee’ and are reviewed by lawyers of the nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, NSC, officials of the State Department and “deputies and principals of the nominating committee”). Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take place, “active war zones” – Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan (it’s not clear if Libya is included) – do not require prior approval. With this protocol in place, the White House and the National Security Council are insulated from outside scrutiny, even by Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief can do anything s/he wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with the approval of hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license to kill. Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended extrajudicial killing as “due process under the Constitution in the age of moral and political degeneration.” In a speech at the Oxford Political Union in 2013 he said, “This Administration has not done enough to be transparent about the legal standards and decision making process … fostering a growing perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is not lawful and necessary…,” adding that this lack of transparency is counterproductive and has led to the “negative public image” of targeted killing. Does Prof. Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) PPG ordered by the Court provides the “transparency” to satisfy critics of the legality of targeted killing? Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and civil rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an “equal opportunist” as a legal advisor to Reagan, Clinton and Obama administrations – all of whom have violated the human rights of foreign nationals. He hardly represented human and civil rights as a member of the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel to the President in the Reagan administration, when that office justified violations of international law, the Charter of United Nations and the US Constitution, in grievous violation of human rights and attempts to destabilize the countries of Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from the International Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing Nicaraguan harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern Africa; and when it supported the South African apartheid government against its black population, supported Israel’s invasion and massacres of Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories – for which the US exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to sanctions against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its legal advisors refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead proliferating first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI (“star wars”) and MX missiles. Not a record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of political and international law poses the question, Is the University of Illinois College of Law – with its record of sanctions – qualified to educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. Koh’s character in these politically charged times? The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of murder and other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied territories, were liable to severe penalty whether or not they had engaged in military action. The Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. A reception to protest Professor Koh’s appearance is planned at the north courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the afternoon of October 28. (Midge O’Brien was an academic professional in U. of I. life science laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of Professional Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member of Nuclear Freeze, and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an anti-war activist since 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 21 15:05:34 2016 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently References: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418@mail.yahoo.com> Even though I'm generally opposed to overt disruption of speaking events as a political tactic, the nature of such events as this one, with no opportunity for genuine discourse and no willingness by the speaker to take that seriously, might force me to reconsider. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 9/21/16, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently To: "Peace Discuss" , "peace" , "Peace-discuss List" Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 8:51 AM I attended what was supposed to be a talk on Constitutional Law last week at the COL U of I, by Prof. Anil Amar a Constitutional Law Professor at Yale University, and the brother of the Dean of the College of Law U of I. I was planning to raise questions related to the firing of Professor Salaita for exercising his "freedom of speech" on social media, and bringing in Harold “Killer” Koh, to campaign for his client Hillary Clinton only ten days before the election in violation of Illinois statues. It was Poli Sci 101 with Prof. Amar promoting his book and Hillary.  Due to lack of time, he only took questions. Two people asked questions related to issues and law which he addressed with much discussion related to the electoral collage, former Pres. Lincoln and Obama, then progressing to disparaging third parties, blaming Nader for Bush and our current wars. He talked about how awful Trump is, and how moderate Hillary is and why we need her, even mentioning Tammy Duckworth as someone who should be supported. I restrained myself from walking out, and raised my hand instead.   I asked "how can you support Hillary given her record as Sec. of State, responsible, along with Obama, for the death and destruction of thousands/millions of people of Libya, Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq?" and then asked again, "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how can you support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who has broken not only International law, but our laws, by extending the Bush wars to as many as 8 countries”?  Then followed with "I came here expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the Democrats." He responded with “you’re exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising mine.”  He then attempted to defend his position. He was clearly rattled, and floundering, though he was floundering all over the place from the very beginning, now worse. One of his most disturbing statements was in relation to his defense of Hillary and the destruction of Libya, “only five Americans died in Libya, emphasizing with fingers raised, "only five.” I guess to some, only American lives matter. The millions of non Americans the US is responsible for killing with impunity, and no remorse, sadly, don’t matter. He was then pulled off to another speaking engagement. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 21 15:05:34 2016 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently References: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418@mail.yahoo.com> Even though I'm generally opposed to overt disruption of speaking events as a political tactic, the nature of such events as this one, with no opportunity for genuine discourse and no willingness by the speaker to take that seriously, might force me to reconsider. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 9/21/16, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently To: "Peace Discuss" , "peace" , "Peace-discuss List" Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 8:51 AM I attended what was supposed to be a talk on Constitutional Law last week at the COL U of I, by Prof. Anil Amar a Constitutional Law Professor at Yale University, and the brother of the Dean of the College of Law U of I. I was planning to raise questions related to the firing of Professor Salaita for exercising his "freedom of speech" on social media, and bringing in Harold “Killer” Koh, to campaign for his client Hillary Clinton only ten days before the election in violation of Illinois statues. It was Poli Sci 101 with Prof. Amar promoting his book and Hillary.  Due to lack of time, he only took questions. Two people asked questions related to issues and law which he addressed with much discussion related to the electoral collage, former Pres. Lincoln and Obama, then progressing to disparaging third parties, blaming Nader for Bush and our current wars. He talked about how awful Trump is, and how moderate Hillary is and why we need her, even mentioning Tammy Duckworth as someone who should be supported. I restrained myself from walking out, and raised my hand instead.   I asked "how can you support Hillary given her record as Sec. of State, responsible, along with Obama, for the death and destruction of thousands/millions of people of Libya, Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq?" and then asked again, "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how can you support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who has broken not only International law, but our laws, by extending the Bush wars to as many as 8 countries”?  Then followed with "I came here expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the Democrats." He responded with “you’re exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising mine.”  He then attempted to defend his position. He was clearly rattled, and floundering, though he was floundering all over the place from the very beginning, now worse. One of his most disturbing statements was in relation to his defense of Hillary and the destruction of Libya, “only five Americans died in Libya, emphasizing with fingers raised, "only five.” I guess to some, only American lives matter. The millions of non Americans the US is responsible for killing with impunity, and no remorse, sadly, don’t matter. He was then pulled off to another speaking engagement. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Sep 21 15:15:20 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:15:20 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Today's NYTimes: An Al Qaeda Martyr's Enduring Pitch:Anwar Al-Awlaki Message-ID: "Among those Mr. Rahami praises in his notebook, according {to} the {criminal} complaint, is Mr. Awlaki, who remains a powerful influence on would be jihadists, especially in the English-speaking West." Way to go Killer Koh! Way to go Yale Law Mafia! Way to go Illinois Law Mafia! 2 Gangs of Idiots, Bigots, Racists & Warmongers Against Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color Men, Women and Children Their Untermensch fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 9:39 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: NYTimes: An Al Qaeda Martyr's Enduring Pitch:Anwar Al-Awlaki Yeah, thanks to Killer Koh, who personally approved his murder. Killer Koh is such an IDIOT and a die-hard BIGOT and RACIST against Muslims of Color that he had no idea he would turn Mr. Awlaki into a Martyr. Ditto for the Idiots and Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Muslims of Color at Yale Law Mafia School and Illinois Law Mafia School. Way to go Killer Koh! Way to go Yale Law Mafia! Way to go Illinois Law Mafia! Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 21 15:42:30 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:42:30 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: "We Are Never Assured of Justice Without a Fight" References: <3677590491.1826017894@org.orgDB.reply.salsalabs.com> Message-ID: [http://org.salsalabs.com/o/641/images/banner2015.png] Wednesday, September 21, 2016 Join Our Lobby Day at This Year's Conference Our power is real. 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Sep 21 15:54:10 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:54:10 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Today's NYTimes: An Al Qaeda Martyr's Enduring Pitch:Anwar Al-Awlaki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mise En Scene Illinois Law Mafia School Auditorium, October 28, 2016, at Noon: {Immediate Standing Ovation a la Northwestern Law Mafia School by the entire Audience Assembled there} Yale/Illinois Law Mafia Dean Don Amar: And now it is my great honor and distinct pleasure to introduce my fellow Yale Law Mafia Dean Don Harold Killer Koh, War Consigliere to our Fellow Yale Law Mafia Boss Killary. Killer Koh: Killary and I sure zapped all those towel-heads for Obama! Now vote for Killary on November 8! {Second Standing Ovation a la Northwestern Law Mafia School by everyone Assembled there} Finis. Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:15 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: Today's NYTimes: An Al Qaeda Martyr's Enduring Pitch:Anwar Al-Awlaki "Among those Mr. Rahami praises in his notebook, according {to} the {criminal} complaint, is Mr. Awlaki, who remains a powerful influence on would be jihadists, especially in the English-speaking West." Way to go Killer Koh! Way to go Yale Law Mafia! Way to go Illinois Law Mafia! 2 Gangs of Idiots, Bigots, Racists & Warmongers Against Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color Men, Women and Children Their Untermensch fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 9:39 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: NYTimes: An Al Qaeda Martyr's Enduring Pitch:Anwar Al-Awlaki Yeah, thanks to Killer Koh, who personally approved his murder. Killer Koh is such an IDIOT and a die-hard BIGOT and RACIST against Muslims of Color that he had no idea he would turn Mr. Awlaki into a Martyr. Ditto for the Idiots and Die-Hard Bigots and Racists against Muslims of Color at Yale Law Mafia School and Illinois Law Mafia School. Way to go Killer Koh! Way to go Yale Law Mafia! Way to go Illinois Law Mafia! Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Wed Sep 21 16:46:05 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 11:46:05 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently In-Reply-To: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <60C4DC6F-F21E-4B5A-BB48-D243A976D913@newsfromneptune.com> Preventing anyone from speaking - even Nazis and Democrats - almost always militates against the True and the Good. But large demonstrations against such speakers can have the opposite effect. That’s why the powers that be want to characterize such demonstrations as ‘denials of free speech.’ —CGE > On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Even though I'm generally opposed to overt disruption of speaking events as a political tactic, the nature of such events as this one, with no opportunity for genuine discourse and no willingness by the speaker to take that seriously, might force me to reconsider. > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 9/21/16, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently > To: "Peace Discuss" , "peace" , "Peace-discuss List" > Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 8:51 AM > > I attended what was supposed to be a > talk on Constitutional > Law last week at the COL U of I, by Prof. Anil Amar a > Constitutional Law Professor at Yale University, and the > brother of the Dean of the College of Law U of I. > > I was planning to raise questions related to the firing of > Professor Salaita for exercising his "freedom of speech" on > social media, and bringing in Harold “Killer” Koh, to > campaign for his client Hillary Clinton only ten days before > the election in violation of Illinois statues. > > It was Poli Sci 101 with Prof. Amar promoting his book and > Hillary. Due to lack of time, he only took questions. > Two people asked questions related to issues and law > which he addressed with much discussion related to the > electoral collage, former Pres. Lincoln and Obama, then > progressing to disparaging third parties, blaming Nader for > Bush and our current wars. He talked about how awful Trump > is, and how moderate Hillary is and why we need her, even > mentioning Tammy Duckworth as someone who should be > supported. > I restrained myself from walking out, and raised my hand > instead. > > I asked "how can you support Hillary given her record as > Sec. of State, responsible, along with Obama, for the death > and destruction of thousands/millions of people of Libya, > Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq?" and then asked again, > "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how can you > support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who > has broken not only International law, but our laws, by > extending the Bush wars to as many as 8 > countries”? Then followed with "I came here > expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” > instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the > Democrats." > > He responded with “you’re > exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising > mine.” He then attempted to defend his position. He > was clearly > rattled, and floundering, though he was floundering all over > the place from the very beginning, now worse. One of his > most disturbing statements was in relation to his defense of > Hillary and the destruction of Libya, “only five Americans > died in Libya, emphasizing with fingers raised, "only > five.” > > I guess to some, only American lives matter. The millions of > non Americans the US is responsible for killing with > impunity, and no remorse, sadly, don’t matter. > > He was then pulled off to another speaking engagement. > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From carl at newsfromneptune.com Wed Sep 21 16:46:05 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 11:46:05 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently In-Reply-To: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <60C4DC6F-F21E-4B5A-BB48-D243A976D913@newsfromneptune.com> Preventing anyone from speaking - even Nazis and Democrats - almost always militates against the True and the Good. But large demonstrations against such speakers can have the opposite effect. That’s why the powers that be want to characterize such demonstrations as ‘denials of free speech.’ —CGE > On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Even though I'm generally opposed to overt disruption of speaking events as a political tactic, the nature of such events as this one, with no opportunity for genuine discourse and no willingness by the speaker to take that seriously, might force me to reconsider. > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 9/21/16, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently > To: "Peace Discuss" , "peace" , "Peace-discuss List" > Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 8:51 AM > > I attended what was supposed to be a > talk on Constitutional > Law last week at the COL U of I, by Prof. Anil Amar a > Constitutional Law Professor at Yale University, and the > brother of the Dean of the College of Law U of I. > > I was planning to raise questions related to the firing of > Professor Salaita for exercising his "freedom of speech" on > social media, and bringing in Harold “Killer” Koh, to > campaign for his client Hillary Clinton only ten days before > the election in violation of Illinois statues. > > It was Poli Sci 101 with Prof. Amar promoting his book and > Hillary. Due to lack of time, he only took questions. > Two people asked questions related to issues and law > which he addressed with much discussion related to the > electoral collage, former Pres. Lincoln and Obama, then > progressing to disparaging third parties, blaming Nader for > Bush and our current wars. He talked about how awful Trump > is, and how moderate Hillary is and why we need her, even > mentioning Tammy Duckworth as someone who should be > supported. > I restrained myself from walking out, and raised my hand > instead. > > I asked "how can you support Hillary given her record as > Sec. of State, responsible, along with Obama, for the death > and destruction of thousands/millions of people of Libya, > Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq?" and then asked again, > "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how can you > support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who > has broken not only International law, but our laws, by > extending the Bush wars to as many as 8 > countries”? Then followed with "I came here > expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” > instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the > Democrats." > > He responded with “you’re > exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising > mine.” He then attempted to defend his position. He > was clearly > rattled, and floundering, though he was floundering all over > the place from the very beginning, now worse. One of his > most disturbing statements was in relation to his defense of > Hillary and the destruction of Libya, “only five Americans > died in Libya, emphasizing with fingers raised, "only > five.” > > I guess to some, only American lives matter. The millions of > non Americans the US is responsible for killing with > impunity, and no remorse, sadly, don’t matter. > > He was then pulled off to another speaking engagement. > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 21 17:10:05 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:10:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently In-Reply-To: <60C4DC6F-F21E-4B5A-BB48-D243A976D913@newsfromneptune.com> References: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418@mail.yahoo.com> <60C4DC6F-F21E-4B5A-BB48-D243A976D913@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: I felt my handling, by countering the propaganda, in an orderly fashion was appropriate. It gave everyone a chance to hear a counter argument, to be considered. However, providing someone with a soapbox or forum such as the COL U of I, did and is continuing to do so, by bringing Killer Koh here to promote Hillary in October, is providing support, and therefore the COL U of I is complicit, just as we are when we provide a platform or support for a racist to speak on our Peace List. We maybe countering him, but we are also providing him and therefore we are complicit with the spread of his lies, and propaganda. > On Sep 21, 2016, at 09:46, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > > Preventing anyone from speaking - even Nazis and Democrats - almost always militates against the True and the Good. > > But large demonstrations against such speakers can have the opposite effect. > > That’s why the powers that be want to characterize such demonstrations as ‘denials of free speech.’ > > —CGE > >> On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Even though I'm generally opposed to overt disruption of speaking events as a political tactic, the nature of such events as this one, with no opportunity for genuine discourse and no willingness by the speaker to take that seriously, might force me to reconsider. >> -------------------------------------------- >> On Wed, 9/21/16, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently >> To: "Peace Discuss" , "peace" , "Peace-discuss List" >> Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 8:51 AM >> >> I attended what was supposed to be a >> talk on Constitutional >> Law last week at the COL U of I, by Prof. Anil Amar a >> Constitutional Law Professor at Yale University, and the >> brother of the Dean of the College of Law U of I. >> >> I was planning to raise questions related to the firing of >> Professor Salaita for exercising his "freedom of speech" on >> social media, and bringing in Harold “Killer” Koh, to >> campaign for his client Hillary Clinton only ten days before >> the election in violation of Illinois statues. >> >> It was Poli Sci 101 with Prof. Amar promoting his book and >> Hillary. Due to lack of time, he only took questions. >> Two people asked questions related to issues and law >> which he addressed with much discussion related to the >> electoral collage, former Pres. Lincoln and Obama, then >> progressing to disparaging third parties, blaming Nader for >> Bush and our current wars. He talked about how awful Trump >> is, and how moderate Hillary is and why we need her, even >> mentioning Tammy Duckworth as someone who should be >> supported. >> I restrained myself from walking out, and raised my hand >> instead. >> >> I asked "how can you support Hillary given her record as >> Sec. of State, responsible, along with Obama, for the death >> and destruction of thousands/millions of people of Libya, >> Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq?" and then asked again, >> "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how can you >> support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who >> has broken not only International law, but our laws, by >> extending the Bush wars to as many as 8 >> countries”? Then followed with "I came here >> expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” >> instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the >> Democrats." >> >> He responded with “you’re >> exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising >> mine.” He then attempted to defend his position. He >> was clearly >> rattled, and floundering, though he was floundering all over >> the place from the very beginning, now worse. One of his >> most disturbing statements was in relation to his defense of >> Hillary and the destruction of Libya, “only five Americans >> died in Libya, emphasizing with fingers raised, "only >> five.” >> >> I guess to some, only American lives matter. The millions of >> non Americans the US is responsible for killing with >> impunity, and no remorse, sadly, don’t matter. >> >> He was then pulled off to another speaking engagement. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 21 17:10:05 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:10:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently In-Reply-To: <60C4DC6F-F21E-4B5A-BB48-D243A976D913@newsfromneptune.com> References: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418@mail.yahoo.com> <60C4DC6F-F21E-4B5A-BB48-D243A976D913@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: I felt my handling, by countering the propaganda, in an orderly fashion was appropriate. It gave everyone a chance to hear a counter argument, to be considered. However, providing someone with a soapbox or forum such as the COL U of I, did and is continuing to do so, by bringing Killer Koh here to promote Hillary in October, is providing support, and therefore the COL U of I is complicit, just as we are when we provide a platform or support for a racist to speak on our Peace List. We maybe countering him, but we are also providing him and therefore we are complicit with the spread of his lies, and propaganda. > On Sep 21, 2016, at 09:46, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > > Preventing anyone from speaking - even Nazis and Democrats - almost always militates against the True and the Good. > > But large demonstrations against such speakers can have the opposite effect. > > That’s why the powers that be want to characterize such demonstrations as ‘denials of free speech.’ > > —CGE > >> On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Even though I'm generally opposed to overt disruption of speaking events as a political tactic, the nature of such events as this one, with no opportunity for genuine discourse and no willingness by the speaker to take that seriously, might force me to reconsider. >> -------------------------------------------- >> On Wed, 9/21/16, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently >> To: "Peace Discuss" , "peace" , "Peace-discuss List" >> Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 8:51 AM >> >> I attended what was supposed to be a >> talk on Constitutional >> Law last week at the COL U of I, by Prof. Anil Amar a >> Constitutional Law Professor at Yale University, and the >> brother of the Dean of the College of Law U of I. >> >> I was planning to raise questions related to the firing of >> Professor Salaita for exercising his "freedom of speech" on >> social media, and bringing in Harold “Killer” Koh, to >> campaign for his client Hillary Clinton only ten days before >> the election in violation of Illinois statues. >> >> It was Poli Sci 101 with Prof. Amar promoting his book and >> Hillary. Due to lack of time, he only took questions. >> Two people asked questions related to issues and law >> which he addressed with much discussion related to the >> electoral collage, former Pres. Lincoln and Obama, then >> progressing to disparaging third parties, blaming Nader for >> Bush and our current wars. He talked about how awful Trump >> is, and how moderate Hillary is and why we need her, even >> mentioning Tammy Duckworth as someone who should be >> supported. >> I restrained myself from walking out, and raised my hand >> instead. >> >> I asked "how can you support Hillary given her record as >> Sec. of State, responsible, along with Obama, for the death >> and destruction of thousands/millions of people of Libya, >> Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq?" and then asked again, >> "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how can you >> support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who >> has broken not only International law, but our laws, by >> extending the Bush wars to as many as 8 >> countries”? Then followed with "I came here >> expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” >> instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the >> Democrats." >> >> He responded with “you’re >> exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising >> mine.” He then attempted to defend his position. He >> was clearly >> rattled, and floundering, though he was floundering all over >> the place from the very beginning, now worse. One of his >> most disturbing statements was in relation to his defense of >> Hillary and the destruction of Libya, “only five Americans >> died in Libya, emphasizing with fingers raised, "only >> five.” >> >> I guess to some, only American lives matter. The millions of >> non Americans the US is responsible for killing with >> impunity, and no remorse, sadly, don’t matter. >> >> He was then pulled off to another speaking engagement. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > From carl at newsfromneptune.com Wed Sep 21 17:19:23 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 12:19:23 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently In-Reply-To: References: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418@mail.yahoo.com> <60C4DC6F-F21E-4B5A-BB48-D243A976D913@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: 百花齊放 ／百花齐放 , 百家爭鳴 ／百家争鸣 > On Sep 21, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Karen Aram wrote: > > I felt my handling, by countering the propaganda, in an orderly fashion was appropriate. > > It gave everyone a chance to hear a counter argument, to be considered. > > However, providing someone with a soapbox or forum such as the COL U of I, did and is continuing to do so, by bringing Killer Koh here to promote Hillary in October, is providing support, and therefore the COL U of I is complicit, just as we are when we provide a platform or support for a racist to speak on our Peace List. We maybe countering him, but we are also providing him and therefore we are complicit with the spread of his lies, and propaganda. > > >> On Sep 21, 2016, at 09:46, C. G. Estabrook wrote: >> >> Preventing anyone from speaking - even Nazis and Democrats - almost always militates against the True and the Good. >> >> But large demonstrations against such speakers can have the opposite effect. >> >> That’s why the powers that be want to characterize such demonstrations as ‘denials of free speech.’ >> >> —CGE >> >>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Even though I'm generally opposed to overt disruption of speaking events as a political tactic, the nature of such events as this one, with no opportunity for genuine discourse and no willingness by the speaker to take that seriously, might force me to reconsider. >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> On Wed, 9/21/16, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently >>> To: "Peace Discuss" , "peace" , "Peace-discuss List" >>> Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 8:51 AM >>> >>> I attended what was supposed to be a >>> talk on Constitutional >>> Law last week at the COL U of I, by Prof. Anil Amar a >>> Constitutional Law Professor at Yale University, and the >>> brother of the Dean of the College of Law U of I. >>> >>> I was planning to raise questions related to the firing of >>> Professor Salaita for exercising his "freedom of speech" on >>> social media, and bringing in Harold “Killer” Koh, to >>> campaign for his client Hillary Clinton only ten days before >>> the election in violation of Illinois statues. >>> >>> It was Poli Sci 101 with Prof. Amar promoting his book and >>> Hillary. Due to lack of time, he only took questions. >>> Two people asked questions related to issues and law >>> which he addressed with much discussion related to the >>> electoral collage, former Pres. Lincoln and Obama, then >>> progressing to disparaging third parties, blaming Nader for >>> Bush and our current wars. He talked about how awful Trump >>> is, and how moderate Hillary is and why we need her, even >>> mentioning Tammy Duckworth as someone who should be >>> supported. >>> I restrained myself from walking out, and raised my hand >>> instead. >>> >>> I asked "how can you support Hillary given her record as >>> Sec. of State, responsible, along with Obama, for the death >>> and destruction of thousands/millions of people of Libya, >>> Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq?" and then asked again, >>> "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how can you >>> support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who >>> has broken not only International law, but our laws, by >>> extending the Bush wars to as many as 8 >>> countries”? Then followed with "I came here >>> expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” >>> instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the >>> Democrats." >>> >>> He responded with “you’re >>> exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising >>> mine.” He then attempted to defend his position. He >>> was clearly >>> rattled, and floundering, though he was floundering all over >>> the place from the very beginning, now worse. One of his >>> most disturbing statements was in relation to his defense of >>> Hillary and the destruction of Libya, “only five Americans >>> died in Libya, emphasizing with fingers raised, "only >>> five.” >>> >>> I guess to some, only American lives matter. The millions of >>> non Americans the US is responsible for killing with >>> impunity, and no remorse, sadly, don’t matter. >>> >>> He was then pulled off to another speaking engagement. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Wed Sep 21 17:19:23 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 12:19:23 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently In-Reply-To: References: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418@mail.yahoo.com> <60C4DC6F-F21E-4B5A-BB48-D243A976D913@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: 百花齊放 ／百花齐放 , 百家爭鳴 ／百家争鸣 > On Sep 21, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Karen Aram wrote: > > I felt my handling, by countering the propaganda, in an orderly fashion was appropriate. > > It gave everyone a chance to hear a counter argument, to be considered. > > However, providing someone with a soapbox or forum such as the COL U of I, did and is continuing to do so, by bringing Killer Koh here to promote Hillary in October, is providing support, and therefore the COL U of I is complicit, just as we are when we provide a platform or support for a racist to speak on our Peace List. We maybe countering him, but we are also providing him and therefore we are complicit with the spread of his lies, and propaganda. > > >> On Sep 21, 2016, at 09:46, C. G. Estabrook wrote: >> >> Preventing anyone from speaking - even Nazis and Democrats - almost always militates against the True and the Good. >> >> But large demonstrations against such speakers can have the opposite effect. >> >> That’s why the powers that be want to characterize such demonstrations as ‘denials of free speech.’ >> >> —CGE >> >>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Even though I'm generally opposed to overt disruption of speaking events as a political tactic, the nature of such events as this one, with no opportunity for genuine discourse and no willingness by the speaker to take that seriously, might force me to reconsider. >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> On Wed, 9/21/16, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently >>> To: "Peace Discuss" , "peace" , "Peace-discuss List" >>> Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 8:51 AM >>> >>> I attended what was supposed to be a >>> talk on Constitutional >>> Law last week at the COL U of I, by Prof. Anil Amar a >>> Constitutional Law Professor at Yale University, and the >>> brother of the Dean of the College of Law U of I. >>> >>> I was planning to raise questions related to the firing of >>> Professor Salaita for exercising his "freedom of speech" on >>> social media, and bringing in Harold “Killer” Koh, to >>> campaign for his client Hillary Clinton only ten days before >>> the election in violation of Illinois statues. >>> >>> It was Poli Sci 101 with Prof. Amar promoting his book and >>> Hillary. Due to lack of time, he only took questions. >>> Two people asked questions related to issues and law >>> which he addressed with much discussion related to the >>> electoral collage, former Pres. Lincoln and Obama, then >>> progressing to disparaging third parties, blaming Nader for >>> Bush and our current wars. He talked about how awful Trump >>> is, and how moderate Hillary is and why we need her, even >>> mentioning Tammy Duckworth as someone who should be >>> supported. >>> I restrained myself from walking out, and raised my hand >>> instead. >>> >>> I asked "how can you support Hillary given her record as >>> Sec. of State, responsible, along with Obama, for the death >>> and destruction of thousands/millions of people of Libya, >>> Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq?" and then asked again, >>> "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how can you >>> support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who >>> has broken not only International law, but our laws, by >>> extending the Bush wars to as many as 8 >>> countries”? Then followed with "I came here >>> expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” >>> instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the >>> Democrats." >>> >>> He responded with “you’re >>> exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising >>> mine.” He then attempted to defend his position. He >>> was clearly >>> rattled, and floundering, though he was floundering all over >>> the place from the very beginning, now worse. One of his >>> most disturbing statements was in relation to his defense of >>> Hillary and the destruction of Libya, “only five Americans >>> died in Libya, emphasizing with fingers raised, "only >>> five.” >>> >>> I guess to some, only American lives matter. The millions of >>> non Americans the US is responsible for killing with >>> impunity, and no remorse, sadly, don’t matter. >>> >>> He was then pulled off to another speaking engagement. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 21 17:39:42 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:39:42 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently In-Reply-To: References: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418@mail.yahoo.com> <60C4DC6F-F21E-4B5A-BB48-D243A976D913@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: Translation please. I understand the people, but I never learned the language. On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:19, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: 百花齊放／百花齐放 , 百家爭鳴／百家争鸣 On Sep 21, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Karen Aram > wrote: I felt my handling, by countering the propaganda, in an orderly fashion was appropriate. It gave everyone a chance to hear a counter argument, to be considered. However, providing someone with a soapbox or forum such as the COL U of I, did and is continuing to do so, by bringing Killer Koh here to promote Hillary in October, is providing support, and therefore the COL U of I is complicit, just as we are when we provide a platform or support for a racist to speak on our Peace List. We maybe countering him, but we are also providing him and therefore we are complicit with the spread of his lies, and propaganda. On Sep 21, 2016, at 09:46, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: Preventing anyone from speaking - even Nazis and Democrats - almost always militates against the True and the Good. But large demonstrations against such speakers can have the opposite effect. That’s why the powers that be want to characterize such demonstrations as ‘denials of free speech.’ —CGE On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss > wrote: Even though I'm generally opposed to overt disruption of speaking events as a political tactic, the nature of such events as this one, with no opportunity for genuine discourse and no willingness by the speaker to take that seriously, might force me to reconsider. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 9/21/16, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently To: "Peace Discuss" >, "peace" >, "Peace-discuss List" > Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 8:51 AM I attended what was supposed to be a talk on Constitutional Law last week at the COL U of I, by Prof. Anil Amar a Constitutional Law Professor at Yale University, and the brother of the Dean of the College of Law U of I. I was planning to raise questions related to the firing of Professor Salaita for exercising his "freedom of speech" on social media, and bringing in Harold “Killer” Koh, to campaign for his client Hillary Clinton only ten days before the election in violation of Illinois statues. It was Poli Sci 101 with Prof. Amar promoting his book and Hillary. Due to lack of time, he only took questions. Two people asked questions related to issues and law which he addressed with much discussion related to the electoral collage, former Pres. Lincoln and Obama, then progressing to disparaging third parties, blaming Nader for Bush and our current wars. He talked about how awful Trump is, and how moderate Hillary is and why we need her, even mentioning Tammy Duckworth as someone who should be supported. I restrained myself from walking out, and raised my hand instead. I asked "how can you support Hillary given her record as Sec. of State, responsible, along with Obama, for the death and destruction of thousands/millions of people of Libya, Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq?" and then asked again, "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how can you support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who has broken not only International law, but our laws, by extending the Bush wars to as many as 8 countries”? Then followed with "I came here expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the Democrats." He responded with “you’re exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising mine.” He then attempted to defend his position. He was clearly rattled, and floundering, though he was floundering all over the place from the very beginning, now worse. One of his most disturbing statements was in relation to his defense of Hillary and the destruction of Libya, “only five Americans died in Libya, emphasizing with fingers raised, "only five.” I guess to some, only American lives matter. The millions of non Americans the US is responsible for killing with impunity, and no remorse, sadly, don’t matter. He was then pulled off to another speaking engagement. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 21 17:39:42 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:39:42 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently In-Reply-To: References: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418@mail.yahoo.com> <60C4DC6F-F21E-4B5A-BB48-D243A976D913@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: Translation please. I understand the people, but I never learned the language. On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:19, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: 百花齊放／百花齐放 , 百家爭鳴／百家争鸣 On Sep 21, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Karen Aram > wrote: I felt my handling, by countering the propaganda, in an orderly fashion was appropriate. It gave everyone a chance to hear a counter argument, to be considered. However, providing someone with a soapbox or forum such as the COL U of I, did and is continuing to do so, by bringing Killer Koh here to promote Hillary in October, is providing support, and therefore the COL U of I is complicit, just as we are when we provide a platform or support for a racist to speak on our Peace List. We maybe countering him, but we are also providing him and therefore we are complicit with the spread of his lies, and propaganda. On Sep 21, 2016, at 09:46, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: Preventing anyone from speaking - even Nazis and Democrats - almost always militates against the True and the Good. But large demonstrations against such speakers can have the opposite effect. That’s why the powers that be want to characterize such demonstrations as ‘denials of free speech.’ —CGE On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss > wrote: Even though I'm generally opposed to overt disruption of speaking events as a political tactic, the nature of such events as this one, with no opportunity for genuine discourse and no willingness by the speaker to take that seriously, might force me to reconsider. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 9/21/16, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently To: "Peace Discuss" >, "peace" >, "Peace-discuss List" > Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 8:51 AM I attended what was supposed to be a talk on Constitutional Law last week at the COL U of I, by Prof. Anil Amar a Constitutional Law Professor at Yale University, and the brother of the Dean of the College of Law U of I. I was planning to raise questions related to the firing of Professor Salaita for exercising his "freedom of speech" on social media, and bringing in Harold “Killer” Koh, to campaign for his client Hillary Clinton only ten days before the election in violation of Illinois statues. It was Poli Sci 101 with Prof. Amar promoting his book and Hillary. Due to lack of time, he only took questions. Two people asked questions related to issues and law which he addressed with much discussion related to the electoral collage, former Pres. Lincoln and Obama, then progressing to disparaging third parties, blaming Nader for Bush and our current wars. He talked about how awful Trump is, and how moderate Hillary is and why we need her, even mentioning Tammy Duckworth as someone who should be supported. I restrained myself from walking out, and raised my hand instead. I asked "how can you support Hillary given her record as Sec. of State, responsible, along with Obama, for the death and destruction of thousands/millions of people of Libya, Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq?" and then asked again, "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how can you support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who has broken not only International law, but our laws, by extending the Bush wars to as many as 8 countries”? Then followed with "I came here expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the Democrats." He responded with “you’re exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising mine.” He then attempted to defend his position. He was clearly rattled, and floundering, though he was floundering all over the place from the very beginning, now worse. One of his most disturbing statements was in relation to his defense of Hillary and the destruction of Libya, “only five Americans died in Libya, emphasizing with fingers raised, "only five.” I guess to some, only American lives matter. The millions of non Americans the US is responsible for killing with impunity, and no remorse, sadly, don’t matter. He was then pulled off to another speaking engagement. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Wed Sep 21 17:45:09 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 12:45:09 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently In-Reply-To: References: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418@mail.yahoo.com> <60C4DC6F-F21E-4B5A-BB48-D243A976D913@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: And you know I speak none of the language beyond "Hello.” But they had me from that. 百花齊放／百花齐放 (bǎihuāqífàng, “let one hundred flowers bloom”) + 百家爭鳴／百家争鸣 (bǎijiāzhēngmíng, “let one hundred schools of thought contend”): the phrase was used by Mao Zedong in 1957 to launch the Hundred Flowers Campaign. —CGE > On Sep 21, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Karen Aram wrote: > > Translation please. I understand the people, but I never learned the language. >> On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:19, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: >> >> 百花齊放 ／百花齐放 , 百家爭鳴 ／百家争鸣 >> >> >> >>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Karen Aram > wrote: >>> >>> I felt my handling, by countering the propaganda, in an orderly fashion was appropriate. >>> >>> It gave everyone a chance to hear a counter argument, to be considered. >>> >>> However, providing someone with a soapbox or forum such as the COL U of I, did and is continuing to do so, by bringing Killer Koh here to promote Hillary in October, is providing support, and therefore the COL U of I is complicit, just as we are when we provide a platform or support for a racist to speak on our Peace List. We maybe countering him, but we are also providing him and therefore we are complicit with the spread of his lies, and propaganda. >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 09:46, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: >>>> >>>> Preventing anyone from speaking - even Nazis and Democrats - almost always militates against the True and the Good. >>>> >>>> But large demonstrations against such speakers can have the opposite effect. >>>> >>>> That’s why the powers that be want to characterize such demonstrations as ‘denials of free speech.’ >>>> >>>> —CGE >>>> >>>>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Even though I'm generally opposed to overt disruption of speaking events as a political tactic, the nature of such events as this one, with no opportunity for genuine discourse and no willingness by the speaker to take that seriously, might force me to reconsider. >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> On Wed, 9/21/16, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently >>>>> To: "Peace Discuss" >, "peace" >, "Peace-discuss List" > >>>>> Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 8:51 AM >>>>> >>>>> I attended what was supposed to be a >>>>> talk on Constitutional >>>>> Law last week at the COL U of I, by Prof. Anil Amar a >>>>> Constitutional Law Professor at Yale University, and the >>>>> brother of the Dean of the College of Law U of I. >>>>> >>>>> I was planning to raise questions related to the firing of >>>>> Professor Salaita for exercising his "freedom of speech" on >>>>> social media, and bringing in Harold “Killer” Koh, to >>>>> campaign for his client Hillary Clinton only ten days before >>>>> the election in violation of Illinois statues. >>>>> >>>>> It was Poli Sci 101 with Prof. Amar promoting his book and >>>>> Hillary. Due to lack of time, he only took questions. >>>>> Two people asked questions related to issues and law >>>>> which he addressed with much discussion related to the >>>>> electoral collage, former Pres. Lincoln and Obama, then >>>>> progressing to disparaging third parties, blaming Nader for >>>>> Bush and our current wars. He talked about how awful Trump >>>>> is, and how moderate Hillary is and why we need her, even >>>>> mentioning Tammy Duckworth as someone who should be >>>>> supported. >>>>> I restrained myself from walking out, and raised my hand >>>>> instead. >>>>> >>>>> I asked "how can you support Hillary given her record as >>>>> Sec. of State, responsible, along with Obama, for the death >>>>> and destruction of thousands/millions of people of Libya, >>>>> Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq?" and then asked again, >>>>> "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how can you >>>>> support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who >>>>> has broken not only International law, but our laws, by >>>>> extending the Bush wars to as many as 8 >>>>> countries”? Then followed with "I came here >>>>> expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” >>>>> instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the >>>>> Democrats." >>>>> >>>>> He responded with “you’re >>>>> exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising >>>>> mine.” He then attempted to defend his position. He >>>>> was clearly >>>>> rattled, and floundering, though he was floundering all over >>>>> the place from the very beginning, now worse. One of his >>>>> most disturbing statements was in relation to his defense of >>>>> Hillary and the destruction of Libya, “only five Americans >>>>> died in Libya, emphasizing with fingers raised, "only >>>>> five.” >>>>> >>>>> I guess to some, only American lives matter. The millions of >>>>> non Americans the US is responsible for killing with >>>>> impunity, and no remorse, sadly, don’t matter. >>>>> >>>>> He was then pulled off to another speaking engagement. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>>>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>>>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >>>> >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Wed Sep 21 17:45:09 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 12:45:09 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently In-Reply-To: References: <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1203659885.2354112.1474470334418@mail.yahoo.com> <60C4DC6F-F21E-4B5A-BB48-D243A976D913@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: And you know I speak none of the language beyond "Hello.” But they had me from that. 百花齊放／百花齐放 (bǎihuāqífàng, “let one hundred flowers bloom”) + 百家爭鳴／百家争鸣 (bǎijiāzhēngmíng, “let one hundred schools of thought contend”): the phrase was used by Mao Zedong in 1957 to launch the Hundred Flowers Campaign. —CGE > On Sep 21, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Karen Aram wrote: > > Translation please. I understand the people, but I never learned the language. >> On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:19, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: >> >> 百花齊放 ／百花齐放 , 百家爭鳴 ／百家争鸣 >> >> >> >>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Karen Aram > wrote: >>> >>> I felt my handling, by countering the propaganda, in an orderly fashion was appropriate. >>> >>> It gave everyone a chance to hear a counter argument, to be considered. >>> >>> However, providing someone with a soapbox or forum such as the COL U of I, did and is continuing to do so, by bringing Killer Koh here to promote Hillary in October, is providing support, and therefore the COL U of I is complicit, just as we are when we provide a platform or support for a racist to speak on our Peace List. We maybe countering him, but we are also providing him and therefore we are complicit with the spread of his lies, and propaganda. >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 09:46, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: >>>> >>>> Preventing anyone from speaking - even Nazis and Democrats - almost always militates against the True and the Good. >>>> >>>> But large demonstrations against such speakers can have the opposite effect. >>>> >>>> That’s why the powers that be want to characterize such demonstrations as ‘denials of free speech.’ >>>> >>>> —CGE >>>> >>>>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Even though I'm generally opposed to overt disruption of speaking events as a political tactic, the nature of such events as this one, with no opportunity for genuine discourse and no willingness by the speaker to take that seriously, might force me to reconsider. >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> On Wed, 9/21/16, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] My experience with the U of I recently >>>>> To: "Peace Discuss" >, "peace" >, "Peace-discuss List" > >>>>> Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 8:51 AM >>>>> >>>>> I attended what was supposed to be a >>>>> talk on Constitutional >>>>> Law last week at the COL U of I, by Prof. Anil Amar a >>>>> Constitutional Law Professor at Yale University, and the >>>>> brother of the Dean of the College of Law U of I. >>>>> >>>>> I was planning to raise questions related to the firing of >>>>> Professor Salaita for exercising his "freedom of speech" on >>>>> social media, and bringing in Harold “Killer” Koh, to >>>>> campaign for his client Hillary Clinton only ten days before >>>>> the election in violation of Illinois statues. >>>>> >>>>> It was Poli Sci 101 with Prof. Amar promoting his book and >>>>> Hillary. Due to lack of time, he only took questions. >>>>> Two people asked questions related to issues and law >>>>> which he addressed with much discussion related to the >>>>> electoral collage, former Pres. Lincoln and Obama, then >>>>> progressing to disparaging third parties, blaming Nader for >>>>> Bush and our current wars. He talked about how awful Trump >>>>> is, and how moderate Hillary is and why we need her, even >>>>> mentioning Tammy Duckworth as someone who should be >>>>> supported. >>>>> I restrained myself from walking out, and raised my hand >>>>> instead. >>>>> >>>>> I asked "how can you support Hillary given her record as >>>>> Sec. of State, responsible, along with Obama, for the death >>>>> and destruction of thousands/millions of people of Libya, >>>>> Syria, Yemen, as well as Iraq?" and then asked again, >>>>> "having heard you speak yesterday on NPR, how can you >>>>> support our Constitutional Law Prof. President, Obama, who >>>>> has broken not only International law, but our laws, by >>>>> extending the Bush wars to as many as 8 >>>>> countries”? Then followed with "I came here >>>>> expecting a conversation on “Freedom of Speech” >>>>> instead I’m hearing a promotion of Hillary and the >>>>> Democrats." >>>>> >>>>> He responded with “you’re >>>>> exercising your freedom of speech and I’m exercising >>>>> mine.” He then attempted to defend his position. He >>>>> was clearly >>>>> rattled, and floundering, though he was floundering all over >>>>> the place from the very beginning, now worse. One of his >>>>> most disturbing statements was in relation to his defense of >>>>> Hillary and the destruction of Libya, “only five Americans >>>>> died in Libya, emphasizing with fingers raised, "only >>>>> five.” >>>>> >>>>> I guess to some, only American lives matter. The millions of >>>>> non Americans the US is responsible for killing with >>>>> impunity, and no remorse, sadly, don’t matter. >>>>> >>>>> He was then pulled off to another speaking engagement. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>>>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>>>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >>>> >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r-szoke at illinois.edu Wed Sep 21 18:59:45 2016 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 18:59:45 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Jimmy Carter: A First Step for Syria? Stop the Killing References: <57E2C4DB.00000673@pmta04.ewr1.nytimes.com> Message-ID: <9881667F-DDD3-4192-B164-39FDFB5F5848@illinois.edu> Note: Will we now hear that this “simple step” is “too simple”? That the wrong person is proposing it? (A neoliberal!) Watch this space! From: r-szoke > Subject: NYTimes.com: Jimmy Carter: A First Step for Syria? Stop the Killing Date: September 21, 2016 at 12:35:23 PM CDT To: > Reply-To: > Sent by r-szoke at illinois.edu: [http://i1.nyt.com/images/misc/nytlogo194x27.gif] [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/09/20/opinion/20carterWeb/20carterWeb-thumbStandard.jpg] Op-Ed Contributor Jimmy Carter: A First Step for Syria? Stop the Killing By JIMMY CARTER A troubled cease-fire can be salvaged if all sides unite around a simple goal. Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser: http://nyti.ms/2cmsW4r Not a Subscriber? To get unlimited access to all New York Times articles, subscribe today. See Options To ensure delivery to your inbox, please add nytdirect at nytimes.com to your address book. Advertisement [https://static01.nyt.com/adx/images/ADS/41/49/ad.414953/CRS-12042_300x79_Core_Internal_Launch_Q3_DM1_2x.jpg] Copyright 2016 | The New York Times Company | NYTimes.com 620 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10018 [http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=hdaNaYedr2/IomeWRKt0nffrak8aSGLbvtkkq/r7ihwOf5XePlpJ1w==&user_id=ee7558d54531b290bd05280f4b7d6eb4&email_type=eta&task_id=1474479323189171®i_id=0] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 21 21:17:50 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:17:50 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Protests underway in Charlotte, NC after another Killing. Message-ID: Published on Wednesday, September 21, 2016 by Common Dreams Protesters, Police Clash After Fatal Police Shooting in Charlotte, NC Demonstrations erupted after a black man was shot and killed by police on Tuesday by Nika Knight, staff writer * * * * * * * 37 Comments [Protesters clashed with police after the fatal police shooting of Keith Scott in Charlotte, North Carolina.] Protesters clashed with police after the fatal police shooting of Keith Scott in Charlotte, North Carolina. (Photo: Reuters) Protests erupted late Tuesday in Charlotte, North Carolina after police officer fatally shot a black man while attempting to serve a warrant on a separate individual. The demonstrators clashed with police in riot gear, several people were injured, and five protesters were ultimately arrested, the New York Times reports. The Los Angeles Times writes that tear gas was used by police, about a dozen police officers were hurt, and a highway was eventually shut down as the demonstrations continued into early Wednesday. Police, according to reports, say that 43-year-old Keith Lamont Scott was armed and "posed an imminent deadly threat" before he was fatally shot Tuesday afternoon by Charlotte-Mecklenburg officer Brentley Vinson, who is also black. Scott's family disputes the police account, saying that he was disabled, unarmed, and reading a book in his car when he was shot. The Guardian described the contradictory accounts surrounding Scott's death: Police said officers went to a Charlotte apartment complex around 4pm looking for a suspect with an outstanding warrant when they encountered Scott, who was not the suspect they were looking for, inside a car. According to department spokesman Keith Trietley, officers saw the man get out the car with a gun and then get back in. When officers approached the car, the man got out of the car with the gun again. At that point, officers deemed the man a threat and at least one fired a weapon, he said. A weapon was recovered by detectives at the scene. According to police, officers immediately began rendering aid after the shots were fired. Scott, a father of seven, was pronounced dead at Carolinas Medical Center. The police version is at odds with that of Scott's family who have insisted that he was disabled, sitting in his car reading a book, and had no gun. "He sits in the shade, reads his book and waits on his kid to get off the bus," Scott's sister told reporters. "He didn't have no gun, he wasn't messing with nobody." "As protests swelled on Tuesday night, police used tear gas in an attempt to disperse crowds heard yelling 'Black lives matter,' and 'Hands up, don't shoot!' One person held up a sign saying 'Stop killing us'; another sign said: 'It was a book,'" the Guardian adds. "In statements the Charlotte-Mecklenburg police department distinguished between 'agitators' and 'demonstrators,' blaming the former for damaging police vehicles and causing injuries to at least a dozen officers. One officer was reportedly struck in the face with a rocks," notes the Guardian. The Los Angeles Times reports that "Charlotte Mayor Jennifer Roberts appealed for calm and tweeted that 'the community deserves answers.'" The fatal police shooting in Charlotte came only a few days after police in Tulsa, Oklahoma, shot and killed an unarmed black man, at a moment when the Movement for Black Lives has created a national debate on police brutality that activists say disproportionately targets black communities. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbw292002 at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 06:16:39 2016 From: jbw292002 at gmail.com (John W.) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 01:16:39 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] "Killer Koh" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I for one would be interested in the documentation for the statement in the article that President Obama is responsible for "greatly" more deaths than George W. Bush: "If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s." John Wason On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Karen Aram via Peace < peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > In relation to the U of I , COL bringing Harold “Killer” as he is known, > Koh, to campaign for Hillary. > Skip to content > > > - About Us > - Contributors > - Sustainers > - In Print (Archives) > - UC-IMC > - Have a comment, tip, photo or story idea? > > > ← Activists Among Us: Claire Szoke > > CU Schools Need to Work Harder to Involve African American Parents → > > October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in > Election Week > Posted on September 2016 > > by Midge O'Brien > > > [image: th] > > Harold Hongju Koh > > Harold Hongju Koh, Hillary Clinton’s former legal advisor at the State > Department has been invited as an ‘endowed speaker’ at the U.I. College of > Law, twelve days prior to the November election. Koh, currently a Yale Law > School professor and former Dean, is a close friend of Yale Law School > graduates Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was appointed by President Bill > Clinton as Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and > Labor; and by President Obama, as senior legal advisor to Secretary of > State Hillary Clinton: he provided legal advice to her during the 2009 coup > in Honduras, the 2011 US/NATO attack on Libya, and Obama’s ongoing drone > assassinations – as well as damage-control in her email controversy. He > won’t say what that advice was, claiming “attorney-client privilege” – > despite the Supreme Court ruling against attorney-client confidences > between government lawyers and government officials. > > An avid advocate of the targeted killing program, “Killer Koh” supports > the legality of what he terms “extrajudicial killing” in Pakistan, Yemen > and other Middle Eastern countries in the US “war on terror,” saying it > complies “with all applicable law, including the laws of war,” and citing > the ‘principle of proportionality’ in “taking great care in planning and > execution to ensure that only ‘legitimate’ objectives are targeted and that > collateral damage is kept to a minimum.” In a feeble attempt at > transparency, the Obama administration recently released a modest admission > that some “116 civilians” may have been victims of U. S. drone attacks – a > figure that is not reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, > journalists and human rights researchers, who have documented many > thousands of casualties. President Obama said – in a revealing moment of > self-reflection – “Turns out I’m really good at killing people … Didn’t > know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” (from Mark Halperin & John > Heilemann, “Double Down: Game Change 2012”). > > If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and > Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: > the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, > just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s. > > Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an > Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted > “President’s Policy Guidance” (PPG) on Obama’s program of targeted > killings. The PPG stipulates that “nothing in this PPG shall be construed > to prevent the President from exercising his Constitutional authority … to > authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, > imminent threat to another country’s persons.” (Killing US citizens > requires specific approval by the President). Death lists are drawn up > weekly by the ‘nominating committee’ and are reviewed by lawyers of the > nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, NSC, officials of the State Department > and “deputies and principals of the nominating committee”). > > Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take > place, “active war zones” – Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan (it’s not clear if > Libya is included) – do not require prior approval. With this protocol in > place, the White House and the National Security Council are insulated from > outside scrutiny, even by Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief > can do anything s/he wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with > the approval of hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license > to kill. > > Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended > extrajudicial killing as “due process under the Constitution in the age of > moral and political degeneration.” In a speech at the Oxford Political > Union in 2013 he said, “This Administration has not done enough to be > transparent about the legal standards and decision making process … > fostering a growing perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is > not lawful and necessary…,” adding that this lack of transparency is > counterproductive and has led to the “negative public image” of targeted > killing. Does Prof. Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) > PPG ordered by the Court provides the “transparency” to satisfy critics of > the legality of targeted killing? > > Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and civil > rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an “equal > opportunist” as a legal advisor to Reagan, Clinton and Obama > administrations – all of whom have violated the human rights of foreign > nationals. He hardly represented human and civil rights as a member of the > Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel to the President in the > Reagan administration, when that office justified violations of > international law, the Charter of United Nations and the US Constitution, > in grievous violation of human rights and attempts to destabilize the > countries of Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from > the International Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing > Nicaraguan harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern > Africa; and when it supported the South African apartheid government > against its black population, supported Israel’s invasion and massacres of > Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli > settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories – for which the US > exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to sanctions > against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its legal advisors > refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead proliferating > first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI (“star wars”) and MX missiles. Not a > record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. > > The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of > political and international law poses the question, Is the University of > Illinois College of Law – with its record of sanctions – qualified to > educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. Koh’s > character in these politically charged times? > > The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the > crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of murder and > other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and crimes against > humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied territories, were liable to > severe penalty whether or not they had engaged in military action. The > Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. > > A reception to protest Professor Koh’s appearance is planned at the north > courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the afternoon of > October 28. > > (Midge O’Brien was an academic professional in U. of I. life science > laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of Professional > Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member of Nuclear Freeze, > and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an anti-war activist since > 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbw292002 at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 06:16:39 2016 From: jbw292002 at gmail.com (John W.) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 01:16:39 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] "Killer Koh" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I for one would be interested in the documentation for the statement in the article that President Obama is responsible for "greatly" more deaths than George W. Bush: "If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s." John Wason On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Karen Aram via Peace < peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > In relation to the U of I , COL bringing Harold “Killer” as he is known, > Koh, to campaign for Hillary. > Skip to content > > > - About Us > - Contributors > - Sustainers > - In Print (Archives) > - UC-IMC > - Have a comment, tip, photo or story idea? > > > ← Activists Among Us: Claire Szoke > > CU Schools Need to Work Harder to Involve African American Parents → > > October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in > Election Week > Posted on September 2016 > > by Midge O'Brien > > > [image: th] > > Harold Hongju Koh > > Harold Hongju Koh, Hillary Clinton’s former legal advisor at the State > Department has been invited as an ‘endowed speaker’ at the U.I. College of > Law, twelve days prior to the November election. Koh, currently a Yale Law > School professor and former Dean, is a close friend of Yale Law School > graduates Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was appointed by President Bill > Clinton as Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and > Labor; and by President Obama, as senior legal advisor to Secretary of > State Hillary Clinton: he provided legal advice to her during the 2009 coup > in Honduras, the 2011 US/NATO attack on Libya, and Obama’s ongoing drone > assassinations – as well as damage-control in her email controversy. He > won’t say what that advice was, claiming “attorney-client privilege” – > despite the Supreme Court ruling against attorney-client confidences > between government lawyers and government officials. > > An avid advocate of the targeted killing program, “Killer Koh” supports > the legality of what he terms “extrajudicial killing” in Pakistan, Yemen > and other Middle Eastern countries in the US “war on terror,” saying it > complies “with all applicable law, including the laws of war,” and citing > the ‘principle of proportionality’ in “taking great care in planning and > execution to ensure that only ‘legitimate’ objectives are targeted and that > collateral damage is kept to a minimum.” In a feeble attempt at > transparency, the Obama administration recently released a modest admission > that some “116 civilians” may have been victims of U. S. drone attacks – a > figure that is not reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, > journalists and human rights researchers, who have documented many > thousands of casualties. President Obama said – in a revealing moment of > self-reflection – “Turns out I’m really good at killing people … Didn’t > know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” (from Mark Halperin & John > Heilemann, “Double Down: Game Change 2012”). > > If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and > Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: > the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, > just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s. > > Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an > Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted > “President’s Policy Guidance” (PPG) on Obama’s program of targeted > killings. The PPG stipulates that “nothing in this PPG shall be construed > to prevent the President from exercising his Constitutional authority … to > authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, > imminent threat to another country’s persons.” (Killing US citizens > requires specific approval by the President). Death lists are drawn up > weekly by the ‘nominating committee’ and are reviewed by lawyers of the > nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, NSC, officials of the State Department > and “deputies and principals of the nominating committee”). > > Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take > place, “active war zones” – Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan (it’s not clear if > Libya is included) – do not require prior approval. With this protocol in > place, the White House and the National Security Council are insulated from > outside scrutiny, even by Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief > can do anything s/he wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with > the approval of hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license > to kill. > > Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended > extrajudicial killing as “due process under the Constitution in the age of > moral and political degeneration.” In a speech at the Oxford Political > Union in 2013 he said, “This Administration has not done enough to be > transparent about the legal standards and decision making process … > fostering a growing perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is > not lawful and necessary…,” adding that this lack of transparency is > counterproductive and has led to the “negative public image” of targeted > killing. Does Prof. Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) > PPG ordered by the Court provides the “transparency” to satisfy critics of > the legality of targeted killing? > > Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and civil > rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an “equal > opportunist” as a legal advisor to Reagan, Clinton and Obama > administrations – all of whom have violated the human rights of foreign > nationals. He hardly represented human and civil rights as a member of the > Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel to the President in the > Reagan administration, when that office justified violations of > international law, the Charter of United Nations and the US Constitution, > in grievous violation of human rights and attempts to destabilize the > countries of Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from > the International Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing > Nicaraguan harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern > Africa; and when it supported the South African apartheid government > against its black population, supported Israel’s invasion and massacres of > Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli > settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories – for which the US > exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to sanctions > against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its legal advisors > refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead proliferating > first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI (“star wars”) and MX missiles. Not a > record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. > > The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of > political and international law poses the question, Is the University of > Illinois College of Law – with its record of sanctions – qualified to > educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. Koh’s > character in these politically charged times? > > The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the > crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of murder and > other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and crimes against > humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied territories, were liable to > severe penalty whether or not they had engaged in military action. The > Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. > > A reception to protest Professor Koh’s appearance is planned at the north > courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the afternoon of > October 28. > > (Midge O’Brien was an academic professional in U. of I. life science > laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of Professional > Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member of Nuclear Freeze, > and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an anti-war activist since > 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Thu Sep 22 06:33:16 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 01:33:16 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] "Killer Koh" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4339CE0C-E459-4DB8-8C7D-6526DD71EC3D@newsfromneptune.com> John-- Given the estimate of more than a million ‘excess deaths’ form the US invasion of Iraq, that corpse pile will be heard to beat. But we can’t say Obama isn’t trying: >. “‘Turns out I'm really good at killing people,’ Obama said quietly. ‘Didn't know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.’” —from Mark Halperin and John Heilemann, "Double Down: Game Change 2012” —CGE > On Sep 22, 2016, at 1:16 AM, John W. via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > I for one would be interested in the documentation for the statement in the article that President Obama is responsible for "greatly" more deaths than George W. Bush: > > "If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s." > > John Wason > > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Karen Aram via Peace > wrote: > In relation to the U of I , COL bringing Harold “Killer” as he is known, Koh, to campaign for Hillary. > Skip to content > > About Us > Contributors > Sustainers > In Print (Archives) > UC-IMC > Have a comment, tip, photo or story idea? > > ← Activists Among Us: Claire Szoke CU Schools Need to Work Harder to Involve African American Parents → > October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week > Posted on September 2016 by Midge O'Brien > > > Harold Hongju Koh > > Harold Hongju Koh, Hillary Clinton’s former legal advisor at the State Department has been invited as an ‘endowed speaker’ at the U.I. College of Law, twelve days prior to the November election. Koh, currently a Yale Law School professor and former Dean, is a close friend of Yale Law School graduates Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was appointed by President Bill Clinton as Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor; and by President Obama, as senior legal advisor to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: he provided legal advice to her during the 2009 coup in Honduras, the 2011 US/NATO attack on Libya, and Obama’s ongoing drone assassinations – as well as damage-control in her email controversy. He won’t say what that advice was, claiming “attorney-client privilege” – despite the Supreme Court ruling against attorney-client confidences between government lawyers and government officials. > > An avid advocate of the targeted killing program, “Killer Koh” supports the legality of what he terms “extrajudicial killing” in Pakistan, Yemen and other Middle Eastern countries in the US “war on terror,” saying it complies “with all applicable law, including the laws of war,” and citing the ‘principle of proportionality’ in “taking great care in planning and execution to ensure that only ‘legitimate’ objectives are targeted and that collateral damage is kept to a minimum.” In a feeble attempt at transparency, the Obama administration recently released a modest admission that some “116 civilians” may have been victims of U. S. drone attacks – a figure that is not reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, journalists and human rights researchers, who have documented many thousands of casualties. President Obama said – in a revealing moment of self-reflection – “Turns out I’m really good at killing people … Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” (from Mark Halperin & John Heilemann, “Double Down: Game Change 2012”). > > If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s. > > Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted “President’s Policy Guidance” (PPG) on Obama’s program of targeted killings. The PPG stipulates that “nothing in this PPG shall be construed to prevent the President from exercising his Constitutional authority … to authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, imminent threat to another country’s persons.” (Killing US citizens requires specific approval by the President). Death lists are drawn up weekly by the ‘nominating committee’ and are reviewed by lawyers of the nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, NSC, officials of the State Department and “deputies and principals of the nominating committee”). > > Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take place, “active war zones” – Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan (it’s not clear if Libya is included) – do not require prior approval. With this protocol in place, the White House and the National Security Council are insulated from outside scrutiny, even by Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief can do anything s/he wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with the approval of hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license to kill. > > Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended extrajudicial killing as “due process under the Constitution in the age of moral and political degeneration.” In a speech at the Oxford Political Union in 2013 he said, “This Administration has not done enough to be transparent about the legal standards and decision making process … fostering a growing perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is not lawful and necessary…,” adding that this lack of transparency is counterproductive and has led to the “negative public image” of targeted killing. Does Prof. Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) PPG ordered by the Court provides the “transparency” to satisfy critics of the legality of targeted killing? > > Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and civil rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an “equal opportunist” as a legal advisor to Reagan, Clinton and Obama administrations – all of whom have violated the human rights of foreign nationals. He hardly represented human and civil rights as a member of the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel to the President in the Reagan administration, when that office justified violations of international law, the Charter of United Nations and the US Constitution, in grievous violation of human rights and attempts to destabilize the countries of Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from the International Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing Nicaraguan harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern Africa; and when it supported the South African apartheid government against its black population, supported Israel’s invasion and massacres of Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories – for which the US exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to sanctions against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its legal advisors refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead proliferating first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI (“star wars”) and MX missiles. Not a record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. > > The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of political and international law poses the question, Is the University of Illinois College of Law – with its record of sanctions – qualified to educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. Koh’s character in these politically charged times? > > The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of murder and other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied territories, were liable to severe penalty whether or not they had engaged in military action. The Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. > > A reception to protest Professor Koh’s appearance is planned at the north courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the afternoon of October 28. > > (Midge O’Brien was an academic professional in U. of I. life science laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of Professional Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member of Nuclear Freeze, and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an anti-war activist since 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Thu Sep 22 06:33:16 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 01:33:16 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] "Killer Koh" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4339CE0C-E459-4DB8-8C7D-6526DD71EC3D@newsfromneptune.com> John-- Given the estimate of more than a million ‘excess deaths’ form the US invasion of Iraq, that corpse pile will be heard to beat. But we can’t say Obama isn’t trying: >. “‘Turns out I'm really good at killing people,’ Obama said quietly. ‘Didn't know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.’” —from Mark Halperin and John Heilemann, "Double Down: Game Change 2012” —CGE > On Sep 22, 2016, at 1:16 AM, John W. via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > I for one would be interested in the documentation for the statement in the article that President Obama is responsible for "greatly" more deaths than George W. Bush: > > "If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s." > > John Wason > > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Karen Aram via Peace > wrote: > In relation to the U of I , COL bringing Harold “Killer” as he is known, Koh, to campaign for Hillary. > Skip to content > > About Us > Contributors > Sustainers > In Print (Archives) > UC-IMC > Have a comment, tip, photo or story idea? > > ← Activists Among Us: Claire Szoke CU Schools Need to Work Harder to Involve African American Parents → > October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week > Posted on September 2016 by Midge O'Brien > > > Harold Hongju Koh > > Harold Hongju Koh, Hillary Clinton’s former legal advisor at the State Department has been invited as an ‘endowed speaker’ at the U.I. College of Law, twelve days prior to the November election. Koh, currently a Yale Law School professor and former Dean, is a close friend of Yale Law School graduates Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was appointed by President Bill Clinton as Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor; and by President Obama, as senior legal advisor to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: he provided legal advice to her during the 2009 coup in Honduras, the 2011 US/NATO attack on Libya, and Obama’s ongoing drone assassinations – as well as damage-control in her email controversy. He won’t say what that advice was, claiming “attorney-client privilege” – despite the Supreme Court ruling against attorney-client confidences between government lawyers and government officials. > > An avid advocate of the targeted killing program, “Killer Koh” supports the legality of what he terms “extrajudicial killing” in Pakistan, Yemen and other Middle Eastern countries in the US “war on terror,” saying it complies “with all applicable law, including the laws of war,” and citing the ‘principle of proportionality’ in “taking great care in planning and execution to ensure that only ‘legitimate’ objectives are targeted and that collateral damage is kept to a minimum.” In a feeble attempt at transparency, the Obama administration recently released a modest admission that some “116 civilians” may have been victims of U. S. drone attacks – a figure that is not reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, journalists and human rights researchers, who have documented many thousands of casualties. President Obama said – in a revealing moment of self-reflection – “Turns out I’m really good at killing people … Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” (from Mark Halperin & John Heilemann, “Double Down: Game Change 2012”). > > If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s. > > Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted “President’s Policy Guidance” (PPG) on Obama’s program of targeted killings. The PPG stipulates that “nothing in this PPG shall be construed to prevent the President from exercising his Constitutional authority … to authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, imminent threat to another country’s persons.” (Killing US citizens requires specific approval by the President). Death lists are drawn up weekly by the ‘nominating committee’ and are reviewed by lawyers of the nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, NSC, officials of the State Department and “deputies and principals of the nominating committee”). > > Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take place, “active war zones” – Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan (it’s not clear if Libya is included) – do not require prior approval. With this protocol in place, the White House and the National Security Council are insulated from outside scrutiny, even by Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief can do anything s/he wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with the approval of hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license to kill. > > Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended extrajudicial killing as “due process under the Constitution in the age of moral and political degeneration.” In a speech at the Oxford Political Union in 2013 he said, “This Administration has not done enough to be transparent about the legal standards and decision making process … fostering a growing perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is not lawful and necessary…,” adding that this lack of transparency is counterproductive and has led to the “negative public image” of targeted killing. Does Prof. Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) PPG ordered by the Court provides the “transparency” to satisfy critics of the legality of targeted killing? > > Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and civil rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an “equal opportunist” as a legal advisor to Reagan, Clinton and Obama administrations – all of whom have violated the human rights of foreign nationals. He hardly represented human and civil rights as a member of the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel to the President in the Reagan administration, when that office justified violations of international law, the Charter of United Nations and the US Constitution, in grievous violation of human rights and attempts to destabilize the countries of Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from the International Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing Nicaraguan harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern Africa; and when it supported the South African apartheid government against its black population, supported Israel’s invasion and massacres of Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories – for which the US exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to sanctions against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its legal advisors refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead proliferating first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI (“star wars”) and MX missiles. Not a record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. > > The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of political and international law poses the question, Is the University of Illinois College of Law – with its record of sanctions – qualified to educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. Koh’s character in these politically charged times? > > The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of murder and other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied territories, were liable to severe penalty whether or not they had engaged in military action. The Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. > > A reception to protest Professor Koh’s appearance is planned at the north courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the afternoon of October 28. > > (Midge O’Brien was an academic professional in U. of I. life science laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of Professional Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member of Nuclear Freeze, and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an anti-war activist since 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Sep 22 13:36:43 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 13:36:43 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] NOT AT ILLINOIS/YALE LAW MAFIA SCHOOL! University increases African-American enrollment, some still skeptical: The Daily Illini Newsletter Message-ID: Not at the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School! where it appears we have had the smallest number of entering African American Law Students since my arrival:5 or 3% as officially reported to us at our latest Faculty Meeting, which is an “open meeting” under the Illinois Act to that effect. Why? In a racist effort to drive up our abysmal Ranking. Last year we were 47. When I came here in 1978 we were 15. So the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia Faculty deliberately decided to gut and destroy my original Faculty’s affirmative action program for African Americans that I voted upon and approved in order to boost the average grade point and LSAT in order to improve their abysmal Ranking. Way to go Illinois/Yale Law Mafia Faculty!. If I remember correctly, before the arrival of our NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd we had about 10% African American students. She immediately gutted that program to 5%. After she was disgraced and fired our new Yale Law Mafia Dean Uncle Brucie Smith did nothing to improve the situation since he was hell bent on improving our Ranking too, for which he was later disgraced and fired and sanctioned by the America Bar Association along with NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and two Acting Deans in between. And now we get a new Yale Law Mafia Dean Don Amar, and he further reduces our African American students to 3%. Why when it comes to African Americans Yale Law Mafia Dean Don Amar is even worse than NeoCon Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and Yale Law Mafia Dean Uncle Brucie Smith. Terribile dictu! 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Estabrook) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:32:54 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE on the Air, 16 Feb. 2016 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <745FA348-0FE6-4122-86C3-7F01FC157753@newsfromneptune.com> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU0WpJP6Z-U War news commentary from the 'Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort' of Champaign-Urbana IL, 20 September 2016 From carl at newsfromneptune.com Thu Sep 22 19:36:18 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:36:18 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE on the Air for 20 Sept. 2016 [correction] In-Reply-To: <745FA348-0FE6-4122-86C3-7F01FC157753@newsfromneptune.com> References: <745FA348-0FE6-4122-86C3-7F01FC157753@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: <5489C839-553A-4E34-B30A-E11DC2FC15FA@newsfromneptune.com> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU0WpJP6Z-U War news commentary from the 'Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort' of Champaign-Urbana IL, 20 September 2016 ### From jbw292002 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 05:49:39 2016 From: jbw292002 at gmail.com (John W.) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 00:49:39 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] "Killer Koh" In-Reply-To: <4339CE0C-E459-4DB8-8C7D-6526DD71EC3D@newsfromneptune.com> References: <4339CE0C-E459-4DB8-8C7D-6526DD71EC3D@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: I'd also love to know how this guy came by the appellation "Killer" Koh, which I've seen bandied about quite a bit now. Was he, like, an axe murderer before he became an Ivy League law professor and dean? Not nearly as evil, I suppose, as my former law school friend who was denied admission to the Michigan bar for, you know, having declared bankruptcy..... John Wason again On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 1:33 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: John-- > > Given the estimate of more than a million ‘excess deaths’ form the US > invasion of Iraq, that corpse pile will be heard to beat. > > But we can’t say Obama isn’t trying: news/2015/01/19/noam-chomsky-obamas-drone-program-most- > extreme-terrorist-campaign-modern-times>. > > “‘Turns out I'm really good at killing people,’ Obama said > quietly. ‘Didn't know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.’” —from Mark > Halperin and John Heilemann, "Double Down: Game Change 2012” > > —CGE > > > On Sep 22, 2016, at 1:16 AM, John W. via Peace-discuss < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > > I for one would be interested in the documentation for the statement in > the article that President Obama is responsible for "greatly" more deaths > than George W. Bush: > > "If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and > Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: > the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, > just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s." > > John Wason > > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Karen Aram via Peace < > peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > >> In relation to the U of I , COL bringing Harold “Killer” as he is known, >> Koh, to campaign for Hillary. >> Skip to content >> >> >> - About Us >> >> - Contributors >> >> - Sustainers >> >> - In Print (Archives) >> >> - UC-IMC >> >> - Have a comment, tip, photo or story idea? >> >> >> ← Activists Among Us: Claire Szoke >> >> CU Schools Need to Work Harder to Involve African American Parents → >> >> October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in >> Election Week >> Posted on September 2016 >> >> by Midge O'Brien >> >> >> >> [image: th] >> >> >> Harold Hongju Koh >> >> Harold Hongju Koh, Hillary Clinton’s former legal advisor at the State >> Department has been invited as an ‘endowed speaker’ at the U.I. College of >> Law, twelve days prior to the November election. Koh, currently a Yale Law >> School professor and former Dean, is a close friend of Yale Law School >> graduates Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was appointed by President Bill >> Clinton as Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and >> Labor; and by President Obama, as senior legal advisor to Secretary of >> State Hillary Clinton: he provided legal advice to her during the 2009 coup >> in Honduras, the 2011 US/NATO attack on Libya, and Obama’s ongoing drone >> assassinations – as well as damage-control in her email controversy. He >> won’t say what that advice was, claiming “attorney-client privilege” – >> despite the Supreme Court ruling against attorney-client confidences >> between government lawyers and government officials. >> >> An avid advocate of the targeted killing program, “Killer Koh” supports >> the legality of what he terms “extrajudicial killing” in Pakistan, Yemen >> and other Middle Eastern countries in the US “war on terror,” saying it >> complies “with all applicable law, including the laws of war,” and citing >> the ‘principle of proportionality’ in “taking great care in planning and >> execution to ensure that only ‘legitimate’ objectives are targeted and that >> collateral damage is kept to a minimum.” In a feeble attempt at >> transparency, the Obama administration recently released a modest admission >> that some “116 civilians” may have been victims of U. S. drone attacks – a >> figure that is not reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, >> journalists and human rights researchers, who have documented many >> thousands of casualties. President Obama said – in a revealing moment of >> self-reflection – “Turns out I’m really good at killing people … Didn’t >> know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” (from Mark Halperin & John >> Heilemann, “Double Down: Game Change 2012”). >> >> If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and >> Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: >> the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, >> just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s. >> >> Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an >> Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted >> “President’s Policy Guidance” (PPG) on Obama’s program of targeted >> killings. The PPG stipulates that “nothing in this PPG shall be construed >> to prevent the President from exercising his Constitutional authority … to >> authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, >> imminent threat to another country’s persons.” (Killing US citizens >> requires specific approval by the President). Death lists are drawn up >> weekly by the ‘nominating committee’ and are reviewed by lawyers of the >> nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, NSC, officials of the State Department >> and “deputies and principals of the nominating committee”). >> >> Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take >> place, “active war zones” – Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan (it’s not clear if >> Libya is included) – do not require prior approval. With this protocol in >> place, the White House and the National Security Council are insulated from >> outside scrutiny, even by Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief >> can do anything s/he wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with >> the approval of hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license >> to kill. >> >> Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended >> extrajudicial killing as “due process under the Constitution in the age of >> moral and political degeneration.” In a speech at the Oxford Political >> Union in 2013 he said, “This Administration has not done enough to be >> transparent about the legal standards and decision making process … >> fostering a growing perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is >> not lawful and necessary…,” adding that this lack of transparency is >> counterproductive and has led to the “negative public image” of targeted >> killing. Does Prof. Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) >> PPG ordered by the Court provides the “transparency” to satisfy critics of >> the legality of targeted killing? >> >> Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and >> civil rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an “equal >> opportunist” as a legal advisor to Reagan, Clinton and Obama >> administrations – all of whom have violated the human rights of foreign >> nationals. He hardly represented human and civil rights as a member of the >> Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel to the President in the >> Reagan administration, when that office justified violations of >> international law, the Charter of United Nations and the US Constitution, >> in grievous violation of human rights and attempts to destabilize the >> countries of Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from >> the International Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing >> Nicaraguan harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern >> Africa; and when it supported the South African apartheid government >> against its black population, supported Israel’s invasion and massacres of >> Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli >> settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories – for which the US >> exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to sanctions >> against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its legal advisors >> refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead proliferating >> first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI (“star wars”) and MX missiles. Not a >> record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. >> >> The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of >> political and international law poses the question, Is the University of >> Illinois College of Law – with its record of sanctions – qualified to >> educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. Koh’s >> character in these politically charged times? >> >> The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the >> crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of murder and >> other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and crimes against >> humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied territories, were liable to >> severe penalty whether or not they had engaged in military action. The >> Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. >> >> A reception to protest Professor Koh’s appearance is planned at the north >> courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the afternoon of >> October 28. >> >> (Midge O’Brien was an academic professional in U. of I. life science >> laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of Professional >> Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member of Nuclear Freeze, >> and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an anti-war activist since >> 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbw292002 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 05:49:39 2016 From: jbw292002 at gmail.com (John W.) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 00:49:39 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] "Killer Koh" In-Reply-To: <4339CE0C-E459-4DB8-8C7D-6526DD71EC3D@newsfromneptune.com> References: <4339CE0C-E459-4DB8-8C7D-6526DD71EC3D@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: I'd also love to know how this guy came by the appellation "Killer" Koh, which I've seen bandied about quite a bit now. Was he, like, an axe murderer before he became an Ivy League law professor and dean? Not nearly as evil, I suppose, as my former law school friend who was denied admission to the Michigan bar for, you know, having declared bankruptcy..... John Wason again On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 1:33 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: John-- > > Given the estimate of more than a million ‘excess deaths’ form the US > invasion of Iraq, that corpse pile will be heard to beat. > > But we can’t say Obama isn’t trying: news/2015/01/19/noam-chomsky-obamas-drone-program-most- > extreme-terrorist-campaign-modern-times>. > > “‘Turns out I'm really good at killing people,’ Obama said > quietly. ‘Didn't know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.’” —from Mark > Halperin and John Heilemann, "Double Down: Game Change 2012” > > —CGE > > > On Sep 22, 2016, at 1:16 AM, John W. via Peace-discuss < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > > I for one would be interested in the documentation for the statement in > the article that President Obama is responsible for "greatly" more deaths > than George W. Bush: > > "If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and > Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: > the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, > just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s." > > John Wason > > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Karen Aram via Peace < > peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > >> In relation to the U of I , COL bringing Harold “Killer” as he is known, >> Koh, to campaign for Hillary. >> Skip to content >> >> >> - About Us >> >> - Contributors >> >> - Sustainers >> >> - In Print (Archives) >> >> - UC-IMC >> >> - Have a comment, tip, photo or story idea? >> >> >> ← Activists Among Us: Claire Szoke >> >> CU Schools Need to Work Harder to Involve African American Parents → >> >> October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in >> Election Week >> Posted on September 2016 >> >> by Midge O'Brien >> >> >> >> [image: th] >> >> >> Harold Hongju Koh >> >> Harold Hongju Koh, Hillary Clinton’s former legal advisor at the State >> Department has been invited as an ‘endowed speaker’ at the U.I. College of >> Law, twelve days prior to the November election. Koh, currently a Yale Law >> School professor and former Dean, is a close friend of Yale Law School >> graduates Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was appointed by President Bill >> Clinton as Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and >> Labor; and by President Obama, as senior legal advisor to Secretary of >> State Hillary Clinton: he provided legal advice to her during the 2009 coup >> in Honduras, the 2011 US/NATO attack on Libya, and Obama’s ongoing drone >> assassinations – as well as damage-control in her email controversy. He >> won’t say what that advice was, claiming “attorney-client privilege” – >> despite the Supreme Court ruling against attorney-client confidences >> between government lawyers and government officials. >> >> An avid advocate of the targeted killing program, “Killer Koh” supports >> the legality of what he terms “extrajudicial killing” in Pakistan, Yemen >> and other Middle Eastern countries in the US “war on terror,” saying it >> complies “with all applicable law, including the laws of war,” and citing >> the ‘principle of proportionality’ in “taking great care in planning and >> execution to ensure that only ‘legitimate’ objectives are targeted and that >> collateral damage is kept to a minimum.” In a feeble attempt at >> transparency, the Obama administration recently released a modest admission >> that some “116 civilians” may have been victims of U. S. drone attacks – a >> figure that is not reconcilable with the accounts of eyewitnesses, >> journalists and human rights researchers, who have documented many >> thousands of casualties. President Obama said – in a revealing moment of >> self-reflection – “Turns out I’m really good at killing people … Didn’t >> know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine” (from Mark Halperin & John >> Heilemann, “Double Down: Game Change 2012”). >> >> If Hillary Clinton is elected president, with the advice of Tim Kaine and >> Killer Koh, she may be even more eager to mass-murder than her predecessor: >> the number of casualties would likely exceed that of Obama’s kill list, >> just as his toll today greatly outnumbers G. W. Bush’s. >> >> Late on Friday 5 August, the White House grudgingly complied with an >> Federal Court order (from an ACLU suit) and released a redacted >> “President’s Policy Guidance” (PPG) on Obama’s program of targeted >> killings. The PPG stipulates that “nothing in this PPG shall be construed >> to prevent the President from exercising his Constitutional authority … to >> authorize lethal force against an individual who poses a continuing, >> imminent threat to another country’s persons.” (Killing US citizens >> requires specific approval by the President). Death lists are drawn up >> weekly by the ‘nominating committee’ and are reviewed by lawyers of the >> nominating agencies (CIA, Pentagon, NSC, officials of the State Department >> and “deputies and principals of the nominating committee”). >> >> Of the seven Middle Eastern countries where drone assassinations take >> place, “active war zones” – Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan (it’s not clear if >> Libya is included) – do not require prior approval. With this protocol in >> place, the White House and the National Security Council are insulated from >> outside scrutiny, even by Congress. It assumes that the Commander in Chief >> can do anything s/he wants; it would provide a President Clinton #2, with >> the approval of hawks Tim Kaine and Harold Koh, immense power and license >> to kill. >> >> Koh as the (former) State Department lawyer has publicly defended >> extrajudicial killing as “due process under the Constitution in the age of >> moral and political degeneration.” In a speech at the Oxford Political >> Union in 2013 he said, “This Administration has not done enough to be >> transparent about the legal standards and decision making process … >> fostering a growing perception that the program [extrajudicial killing] is >> not lawful and necessary…,” adding that this lack of transparency is >> counterproductive and has led to the “negative public image” of targeted >> killing. Does Prof. Koh think the recent exposure of the (heavily redacted) >> PPG ordered by the Court provides the “transparency” to satisfy critics of >> the legality of targeted killing? >> >> Although Koh has been described as a prominent advocate of human and >> civil rights (apparently exclusively of US citizens), he has been an “equal >> opportunist” as a legal advisor to Reagan, Clinton and Obama >> administrations – all of whom have violated the human rights of foreign >> nationals. He hardly represented human and civil rights as a member of the >> Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel to the President in the >> Reagan administration, when that office justified violations of >> international law, the Charter of United Nations and the US Constitution, >> in grievous violation of human rights and attempts to destabilize the >> countries of Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua (attempting to withdraw from >> the International Court of Justice, which denounced the US for bombing >> Nicaraguan harbors), Guatemala, Libya, Angola and elsewhere in southern >> Africa; and when it supported the South African apartheid government >> against its black population, supported Israel’s invasion and massacres of >> Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and supported illegal Israeli >> settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories – for which the US >> exercised its veto in the U.N. Security Council, in opposition to sanctions >> against US. In addition, the Reagan administration and its legal advisors >> refused to support nuclear test ban treaties, instead proliferating >> first-strike nuclear weapons, SDI (“star wars”) and MX missiles. Not a >> record to be proud of for someone serving as legal counsel to the president. >> >> The opportunity extended Harold Koh to lecture potential scholars of >> political and international law poses the question, Is the University of >> Illinois College of Law – with its record of sanctions – qualified to >> educate future lawyers, when it sponsors a person of Harold H. Koh’s >> character in these politically charged times? >> >> The Nuremberg Military Tribunal in 1947 stated unequivocally that the >> crimes of the ten civilian Nazi defendants who were convicted of murder and >> other atrocities, conspiracy to commit war crimes and crimes against >> humanity of civilians and nationals of occupied territories, were liable to >> severe penalty whether or not they had engaged in military action. The >> Nuremberg judgment still stands in international law. >> >> A reception to protest Professor Koh’s appearance is planned at the north >> courtyard of the College of Law before the lecture on the afternoon of >> October 28. >> >> (Midge O’Brien was an academic professional in U. of I. life science >> laborotories over twenty years and secretary in the Union of Professional >> Employees; was an election judge twelve years; a member of Nuclear Freeze, >> and Prairie Alliance against nuclear power; and an anti-war activist since >> 1965. She is a member of the Green Party.) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 23 13:32:53 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 13:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Killer Koh, Trump, Universities & War, Queer Theory, Feminism, African America Studies ... links. References: <1856923258.288859.1474637573650.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1856923258.288859.1474637573650@mail.yahoo.com> The Killer Koh issue goes way beyond drones.   Killer Koh and Jeh Johnson (Sec of DHS) were among the main legal authorities in the effort to repeal the 2001 AUMF (al Queda focus) and then to reuse/refocus the AUMF against ISIS. The 2001 AUMF was used to authorize all the fraudulent wars/drone activities since 9/11. Without 9/11, the 2001 AUMF could never have been created. Both al Queda and ISIS have been proven to be fraudulent creations of Israel and the US. I may be mistaken, but I don't believe that anyone in AWARE will confirm that ISIS and al Queda are creations of Israel/US despite overwhelming evidence to confirm this. AWARE can't confirm this because it would get to close to the fact that al Queda had no material involvement in the destruction of the WTC on 9/11. The hijackers were just patsies like Oswald. Again, will AWARE confirm that al Queda and ISIS are part of fictitious/fraudulent ruse to feed Islamophobia and the multi-trillion dollar boondoggle called the 'war on terror'?. AWARE might dance around the edges of the fact that al Queda was a CIA creation but AWARE will not implicate Israel, which has been proven to be complicit in the events of 9/11 and ISIS through the illegal Iraq War.I will be called delusional, 'a conspiracy nut' or ignored, but that doesn't negate this worldwide belief. Putin's attack on ISIS was in part enabled by the fact that ISIS was a US/Israel construct, because for the US to attack Russia would appear as support for ISIS, thus allowing Putin's actions.  Now back to the AUMF/Koh/University of Illinois/Yousuf.. See Lawfare blog:In a May 2013 speech, Obama talked about the repeal of the AUMF. "The President’s historic move in that speech was to call for the eventual repeal of the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) and the end of what I had called at the Oxford Union the “Forever War.”  The President cogently summarized why we should reject indefinite war in favor of an “exit strategy” to bring this protracted conflict with Al Qaeda, like all wars, to an end." see below article:The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration's Interpretation of the 2001 AUMF | | | | | | | | | | | The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration... | | | | and Obama also said:  "We should keep trying to end the Forever War. Our eventual goal should be to repeal the AUMF. Almost thirteen years after 9/11, it is increasingly problematic to rely on the 2001 AUMF to conduct all of America’s counterterrorism operations." In May 2014 ...http://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Koh_Testimony.pdf ... "... that Congress should aim to “ultimately repeal, the mandate” of the AUMF but then in October of 2014 Killer Koh defended the domestic legal basis for President’s Obama’s use of force against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration's Interpretation of the 2001 AUMF And then the big switch from efforts to repeal AUMF to the full use of it against ISIS. and Lawfare blog Oct 2014:"It is against this background that we can assess the significance of Koh’s speech.  For less than six months after maintaining that “We should not use a broadly worded 13-year old AUMF text drafted for a prior situation to conduct perpetual armed conflict against a mutating group of terrorist networks,” Koh has offered a legal defense of President Obama’s decision to do precisely that.  The Forever War, as Koh defines it, far from foreseeably dead, has been given new life as a result of the rise of the Islamic State and President’s Obama’s reversal on a Koh-blessed expansion-by-interpretation of the 2001 AUMF."https://www.lawfareblog.com/significance-harold-kohs-legal-defense-administrations-interpretation-2001-aumf Al Queda has been completely exposed as a CIA creation, which took about five years or so to become mainstream news.It only took a couple of years to expose ISIS as an Israeli/US creation. http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-is-a-us-israeli-creation-top-ten-indications/5518627 ISIS is a US Israeli creation top ten indications... source Global Research #1 ISIS Foreknowledge via Leaked DIA Doc, Aug 2012 ... “there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime …” #2 ISIS Never Attacks Israel and aid ISIS ... and http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0bc_1448229854 Netanyahu ADMITS ISIS are Israel soldiers #3 Toyota Trucks ... and why are they not attacked ... a Texas plumber found out his truck with business name used by ISIS http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-12-15/how-texas-plumbers-truck-wound-isis-hands #4  ISIS’ First Class Social Media Skills ... How does a barbaric group of killers, who speak a language very different to English, who espouse fundamentalist, religious ideals (such as Sharia law), and often criticize all things Western, manage to develop such excellent social media skills? #5 Israeli Group SITE First to Release ISIS Footage ... SITE was involved in the slew of fake green screen ISIS beheadings of 2014 #6 ISIS Leader Baghdadi a Mossad Agent ... “Simon Elliot (Elliot Shimon) aka Al-Baghdadi was born of two Jewish parents and is a Mossad agent. We offer below three translations that want to assert that the Caliph Al-Baghdadi is a full Mossad agent and that he was born Jewish father and mother: #7 Leaked Cables Showing US Plotting Syrian Overthrow ... Julian Assange of Wikileaks did a great job in capturing information about what was happening in Syria years before the “Arab springs” and current war started in 2011. He reveals how William Roebuck, then chargé d’affaires at the US embassy in Damascus, was plotting to destablize the Syrian government.  #8 Russia Bombs ISIS, US Protects ISIS ... Russia was able to do in a few months what the US has been unable to do for years #9 ISIS Always the Excuse for Further Intervention ... ISIS always the perfect excuse for further military intervention in Syria? Given the history of foreign meddling in Syria, particularly by the US and Israel in the last 70 years, isn’t it rather convenient that the specter of ISIS is the justification offered for proposed no-fly zones, air strikes and ground troops? How would the US and Israel conquer the Middle East without their pet Frankenstein ISIS? #10 ISIS is an Acronym for Mossad. [The Israeli Secret Intelligence Service. Interesting Coincidence] see video: https://youtu.be/jYONiyG-CZk (Dan Raviv and Yossi Melman) admit that the acronym ISIS = Mossad.http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-is-a-us-israeli-creation-top-ten-indications/5518627 Now what does all this have to do with Queer Theory, Feminism and African American Studies...Well the common thread is the Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, The Lilly Foundation....and major American Universities. It is not disputed by anyone that these foundations support the US/Israel Iraq/Afhanistan war effort over the last decades.But what is not widely known is that these foundations are also major funders of the pro-immigration and related social issues presented by the Sociology Dept of the UofI. see graphics below... and that Critical Theory as a component of Cultural Marxism is a basic element of that Department. Of course they don't characterize it this way, but it is not an inaccurate statement. It's all dressed up in unintelligible academic speak in a ruse of humanitarianism. The undeniable link from George Soros to the Clintons/Obama/US State Dept/major US universities through foundations such as the Rockefeller and Ford...etc to push immigration ultimately has its roots in the 1920s Cultural Marxism / Critical Theory mindset that Queer Theory, Feminism and African American Studies programs are an integral part of. UofI students get a one-sided globalist view of social science. Yousuf is just chasing dirty Rockefeller cash. I really feel sorry for the African American students who really think anything is going to ever change with racism in America. They are being tricked, propagandized and lied to. Soros and other billionaire controllers fund Muslim refugee invasion of U.S…. Obama admin withholding info about 86,000 criminal illegal immigrants « InvestmentWatch | | | | | | | | | | | Soros and other billionaire controllers fund Muslim refugee invasion of U.S... | | | | The Trump phenomena is a direct push-back to this effort.It is a sinister plan where Soros/Clintons/Universities...et al, can bandy the 'racist' accusation against Trumps followers, where their actual agenda follows the Jewish Marxist Institute of Social Research theories rooted in the 1920s... which is to destroy white, nationalist, capitalist American/European culture to pave the way for a Jewish NWO which began as a Jewish Bolshevik revolution. Of course this is a simplistic and inflammatory way of presenting these ideas, but I want to be as brief and direct as I can.This is absolutely related to the relationship between fraudulent wars and the refugee crisis they create. The only way to force millions of people to risk their lives to get to Europe is war. It also has been proven that the initial Syrian crisis was caused by false flag US/Israel terrorism (chemical weapons/color revolutions). 9/11 was a false flag event that eventually led to the creation of ISIS by Israel/US.Again, AWARE cannot/will not confirm that al Queda/ISIS are fraudulent creations because it gets too close to the fact that the so-called al Queda hijackers could not have accomplished 9/11. If the hijackers didn't do it, then who did?  All evidence points to Neocon/Zionists.AWARE will not recognize this, which makes them complicit in the cover-up of 9/11, which led to the absolutely needless deaths of possibly a million Iraqis/Afghans. Much of the theory in this article is inspired by Professor Kevin McDonald. http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/author/kmac/ Professor Kevin McDonald was a speaker in the latest Academic Freedom Conference II held on line in Sept 2016 along with the Midwest 9/11 II. Kevin McDonald is a principle in the American Freedom Party. http://american3rdposition.com/?p=7796 The American Freedom Party is not a white supremacist, neoNazi organization.  It was formed in part to counter the measures of the Cultural Marxism phenomena. These views are just a reflection of credible research done on a massive scale by ordinary people in order to protect themselves from a real threat to their freedom and lives. If you got this far, thank you.Steve Francis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: uofi.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 32508 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ford_foundation_macias-rojas.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 92783 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From the first arming of the Afghan resistance in 1979 under the Carter administration, by then Secretary Zbigniew Brzezinski in his efforts to "give Russia their Vietnam”. Right now humanity is facing total disaster with the potential for nuclear war given US provocations, we need to focus on the here and now. The American people aren’t stupid many know well what our government is responsible for creating, they just don’t know what to do to stop it. On Sep 23, 2016, at 06:32, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: The Killer Koh issue goes way beyond drones. Killer Koh and Jeh Johnson (Sec of DHS) were among the main legal authorities in the effort to repeal the 2001 AUMF (al Queda focus) and then to reuse/refocus the AUMF against ISIS. The 2001 AUMF was used to authorize all the fraudulent wars/drone activities since 9/11. Without 9/11, the 2001 AUMF could never have been created. Both al Queda and ISIS have been proven to be fraudulent creations of Israel and the US. I may be mistaken, but I don't believe that anyone in AWARE will confirm that ISIS and al Queda are creations of Israel/US despite overwhelming evidence to confirm this. AWARE can't confirm this because it would get to close to the fact that al Queda had no material involvement in the destruction of the WTC on 9/11. The hijackers were just patsies like Oswald. Again, will AWARE confirm that al Queda and ISIS are part of fictitious/fraudulent ruse to feed Islamophobia and the multi-trillion dollar boondoggle called the 'war on terror'?. AWARE might dance around the edges of the fact that al Queda was a CIA creation but AWARE will not implicate Israel, which has been proven to be complicit in the events of 9/11 and ISIS through the illegal Iraq War. I will be called delusional, 'a conspiracy nut' or ignored, but that doesn't negate this worldwide belief. Putin's attack on ISIS was in part enabled by the fact that ISIS was a US/Israel construct, because for the US to attack Russia would appear as support for ISIS, thus allowing Putin's actions. Now back to the AUMF/Koh/University of Illinois/Yousuf.. See Lawfare blog: In a May 2013 speech, Obama talked about the repeal of the AUMF. "The President’s historic move in that speech was to call for the eventual repeal of the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) and the end of what I had called at the Oxford Union the “Forever War.” The President cogently summarized why we should reject indefinite war in favor of an “exit strategy” to bring this protracted conflict with Al Qaeda, like all wars, to an end." see below article: The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration's Interpretation of the 2001 AUMF The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration... and Obama also said: "We should keep trying to end the Forever War. Our eventual goal should be to repeal the AUMF. Almost thirteen years after 9/11, it is increasingly problematic to rely on the 2001 AUMF to conduct all of America’s counterterrorism operations." In May 2014 ...http://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Koh_Testimony.pdf ... "... that Congress should aim to “ultimately repeal, the mandate” of the AUMF but then in October of 2014 Killer Koh defended the domestic legal basis for President’s Obama’s use of force against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration's Interpretation of the 2001 AUMF And then the big switch from efforts to repeal AUMF to the full use of it against ISIS. and Lawfare blog Oct 2014: "It is against this background that we can assess the significance of Koh’s speech. For less than six months after maintaining that “We should not use a broadly worded 13-year old AUMF text drafted for a prior situation to conduct perpetual armed conflict against a mutating group of terrorist networks,” Koh has offered a legal defense of President Obama’s decision to do precisely that. The Forever War, as Koh defines it, far from foreseeably dead, has been given new life as a result of the rise of the Islamic State and President’s Obama’s reversal on a Koh-blessed expansion-by-interpretation of the 2001 AUMF." https://www.lawfareblog.com/significance-harold-kohs-legal-defense-administrations-interpretation-2001-aumf Al Queda has been completely exposed as a CIA creation, which took about five years or so to become mainstream news. It only took a couple of years to expose ISIS as an Israeli/US creation. http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-is-a-us-israeli-creation-top-ten-indications/5518627 ISIS is a US Israeli creation top ten indications... source Global Research #1 ISIS Foreknowledge via Leaked DIA Doc, Aug 2012 ... “there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime …” #2 ISIS Never Attacks Israel and aid ISIS ... and http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0bc_1448229854 Netanyahu ADMITS ISIS are Israel soldiers #3 Toyota Trucks ... and why are they not attacked ... a Texas plumber found out his truck with business name used by ISIS http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-12-15/how-texas-plumbers-truck-wound-isis-hands #4 ISIS’ First Class Social Media Skills ... How does a barbaric group of killers, who speak a language very different to English, who espouse fundamentalist, religious ideals (such as Sharia law), and often criticize all things Western, manage to develop such excellent social media skills? #5 Israeli Group SITE First to Release ISIS Footage ... SITE was involved in the slew of fake green screen ISIS beheadings of 2014 #6 ISIS Leader Baghdadi a Mossad Agent ... “Simon Elliot (Elliot Shimon) aka Al-Baghdadi was born of two Jewish parents and is a Mossad agent. We offer below three translations that want to assert that the Caliph Al-Baghdadi is a full Mossad agent and that he was born Jewish father and mother: #7 Leaked Cables Showing US Plotting Syrian Overthrow ... Julian Assange of Wikileaks did a great job in capturing information about what was happening in Syria years before the “Arab springs” and current war started in 2011. He reveals how William Roebuck, then chargé d’affaires at the US embassy in Damascus, was plotting to destablize the Syrian government. #8 Russia Bombs ISIS, US Protects ISIS ... Russia was able to do in a few months what the US has been unable to do for years #9 ISIS Always the Excuse for Further Intervention ... ISIS always the perfect excuse for further military intervention in Syria? Given the history of foreign meddling in Syria, particularly by the US and Israel in the last 70 years, isn’t it rather convenient that the specter of ISIS is the justification offered for proposed no-fly zones, air strikes and ground troops? How would the US and Israel conquer the Middle East without their pet Frankenstein ISIS? #10 ISIS is an Acronym for Mossad. [The Israeli Secret Intelligence Service. Interesting Coincidence] see video: https://youtu.be/jYONiyG-CZk (Dan Raviv and Yossi Melman) admit that the acronym ISIS = Mossad. http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-is-a-us-israeli-creation-top-ten-indications/5518627 Now what does all this have to do with Queer Theory, Feminism and African American Studies... Well the common thread is the Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, The Lilly Foundation....and major American Universities. It is not disputed by anyone that these foundations support the US/Israel Iraq/Afhanistan war effort over the last decades. But what is not widely known is that these foundations are also major funders of the pro-immigration and related social issues presented by the Sociology Dept of the UofI. see graphics below... and that Critical Theory as a component of Cultural Marxism is a basic element of that Department. Of course they don't characterize it this way, but it is not an inaccurate statement. It's all dressed up in unintelligible academic speak in a ruse of humanitarianism. The undeniable link from George Soros to the Clintons/Obama/US State Dept/major US universities through foundations such as the Rockefeller and Ford...etc to push immigration ultimately has its roots in the 1920s Cultural Marxism / Critical Theory mindset that Queer Theory, Feminism and African American Studies programs are an integral part of. UofI students get a one-sided globalist view of social science. Yousuf is just chasing dirty Rockefeller cash. I really feel sorry for the African American students who really think anything is going to ever change with racism in America. They are being tricked, propagandized and lied to. Soros and other billionaire controllers fund Muslim refugee invasion of U.S…. Obama admin withholding info about 86,000 criminal illegal immigrants « InvestmentWatch Soros and other billionaire controllers fund Muslim refugee invasion of U.S... The Trump phenomena is a direct push-back to this effort. It is a sinister plan where Soros/Clintons/Universities...et al, can bandy the 'racist' accusation against Trumps followers, where their actual agenda follows the Jewish Marxist Institute of Social Research theories rooted in the 1920s... which is to destroy white, nationalist, capitalist American/European culture to pave the way for a Jewish NWO which began as a Jewish Bolshevik revolution. Of course this is a simplistic and inflammatory way of presenting these ideas, but I want to be as brief and direct as I can. This is absolutely related to the relationship between fraudulent wars and the refugee crisis they create. The only way to force millions of people to risk their lives to get to Europe is war. It also has been proven that the initial Syrian crisis was caused by false flag US/Israel terrorism (chemical weapons/color revolutions). 9/11 was a false flag event that eventually led to the creation of ISIS by Israel/US. Again, AWARE cannot/will not confirm that al Queda/ISIS are fraudulent creations because it gets too close to the fact that the so-called al Queda hijackers could not have accomplished 9/11. If the hijackers didn't do it, then who did? All evidence points to Neocon/Zionists. AWARE will not recognize this, which makes them complicit in the cover-up of 9/11, which led to the absolutely needless deaths of possibly a million Iraqis/Afghans. Much of the theory in this article is inspired by Professor Kevin McDonald. http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/author/kmac/ Professor Kevin McDonald was a speaker in the latest Academic Freedom Conference II held on line in Sept 2016 along with the Midwest 9/11 II. Kevin McDonald is a principle in the American Freedom Party. http://american3rdposition.com/?p=7796 The American Freedom Party is not a white supremacist, neoNazi organization. It was formed in part to counter the measures of the Cultural Marxism phenomena. These views are just a reflection of credible research done on a massive scale by ordinary people in order to protect themselves from a real threat to their freedom and lives. If you got this far, thank you. Steve Francis _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Sep 23 14:09:01 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 14:09:01 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Is the Sales Tax a Jails Tax? Public Forum on Oct. 5th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A very important local issue to be addressed. On Sep 22, 2016, at 19:57, Build Programs,Not Jails > wrote: Is the Sales Tax a Jails Tax? There have been many questions about the "Public Facilities" sales tax referendum that will be on the ballot in our county this November. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Sep 23 14:09:56 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 14:09:56 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Syria In-Reply-To: References: <40CE35BF-FA3C-4BDB-B4B0-1B37099D98BB@illinois.edu> Message-ID: On Sep 23, 2016, at 06:18, Karen Aram via Peace > wrote: I see little or no difference between the foreign policy actions of either Democrats or Republicans. Which is why I support the Green Party. While I consider the “US foreign policy related to Syria” analysis below by the Black Agenda Report, to be an excellent analysis, and agree that Hillary will carry out the most egregious acts against humanity, based upon her behavior as Sec. of State, and those advisors with whom she has surrounded her self. I don’t believe a Trump Presidential win will change anything, even if that is his goal. The corporate and military advisors in power known as the neocons of the military/industrial complex, are the powers that be behind the throne. The fact that Harold “Killer” Koh, along with Zbigniew Brzezinski both, though Democrats, also acted as advisors to the Reagan government is just one example of how our foreign policy works. The Council on Foreign Relations, is made up of both Democrats and Republicans who act as advisors to the Administration. Kissinger is another example. Yes, there is dissension between those within the State Dept, and the Pentagon and every other institution as Glen Ford has pointed out, but often their dissent is based on “process” wanting results “now”. Not laws or any moral concern for the peoples whose lives are destroyed. On Sep 23, 2016, at 05:28, Carl G. Estabrook > wrote: What “the US wants” is dependent upon who the effective government of the US is, right now: http://blackagendareport.com/us_rulers_split_over_syria Not that whoever that is, is particularly concerned about "the death and destruction to the people of Syria. —CGE On Sep 23, 2016, at 7:09 AM, Karen Aram via Peace > wrote: No hope for cease fire in Syria. Kerry is insisting on a “no fly zone”. Remember the “no-fly zone” over Libya? Total destruction. The only thing the US wants is regime change at any cost. Never mind the death and destruction to the people of Syria. The Russians have walked away. _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 23 14:51:22 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 14:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 165 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1397739202.328933.1474642282799@mail.yahoo.com> You have completely confirmed my beliefs.Yes, ISIS is here and now and was/is a creation of Israel/US/Saudi Arabia.... and is a replacement for the fear-mongering tool 'al Queda'.You are confirming that al Queda was a fraudulent entity, but you won't make the connection that it was fraudulently used to start the Afghan/Iraq wars.  Why is it a fraud now, but unimportant in respect to 2001? The 2001 AUMF was created only 18 days after 9/11 and Barak and Bremmer (Jews) were blaming al Queda for 9/11 within 45 minutes of the controlled demolition of the WTC. Killer Koh was a major player in the 2001 AUMF from al Queda to ISIS... He is going to be on campus October 28, here, now and the future.... John Brennan, the current head of the CIA and former chief counterterrorism advisor to Obama was the most important person in keeping Obama looking forward and not back (to 9/11) Your statement "we need to focus on the here and now." parrots his mission. It's called cover-up. There are thousands of pieces of information proving that the Afghan/Iraq wars were planned well in advance of 9/11 and that the need and existence for patsies was essential. To deny the importance of this is to contribute to the cover-up and deaths/displacement of millions of Iraqis/Afghans. al Queda was fraudulent then and now. What we need is a war crimes tribunal completely free of any Israeli influence.That's what needs to be done. NOW and it has to implicate Israel. On Friday, September 23, 2016 10:07 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Killer Koh, Trump, Universities & War, Queer Theory,       Feminism, African America Studies ... links. (Karen Aram) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 14:07:09 +0000 From: Karen Aram To: Stephen Francis Cc: "Francis A. Boyle" , Peace-discuss List     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Killer Koh, Trump, Universities & War,     Queer Theory, Feminism, African America Studies ... links. Message-ID:         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Stephen, what planet are you on? We of AWARE, have said all along, non stop even at the expense of being labeled, yes the US with our allies of which Israel is major, created ISIS. From the first arming of the Afghan resistance in 1979 under the Carter administration, by then Secretary Zbigniew Brzezinski in his efforts to "give Russia their Vietnam”. Right now humanity is facing total disaster with the potential for nuclear war given US provocations, we need to focus on the here and now. The American people aren’t stupid many know well what our government is responsible for creating, they just don’t know what to do to stop it. On Sep 23, 2016, at 06:32, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: The Killer Koh issue goes way beyond drones. Killer Koh and Jeh Johnson (Sec of DHS) were among the main legal authorities in the effort to repeal the 2001 AUMF (al Queda focus) and then to reuse/refocus the AUMF against ISIS. The 2001 AUMF was used to authorize all the fraudulent wars/drone activities since 9/11. Without 9/11, the 2001 AUMF could never have been created. Both al Queda and ISIS have been proven to be fraudulent creations of Israel and the US. I may be mistaken, but I don't believe that anyone in AWARE will confirm that ISIS and al Queda are creations of Israel/US despite overwhelming evidence to confirm this. AWARE can't confirm this because it would get to close to the fact that al Queda had no material involvement in the destruction of the WTC on 9/11. The hijackers were just patsies like Oswald. Again, will AWARE confirm that al Queda and ISIS are part of fictitious/fraudulent ruse to feed Islamophobia and the multi-trillion dollar boondoggle called the 'war on terror'?. AWARE might dance around the edges of the fact that al Queda was a CIA creation but AWARE will not implicate Israel, which has been proven to be complicit in the events of 9/11 and ISIS through the illegal Iraq War. I will be called delusional, 'a conspiracy nut' or ignored, but that doesn't negate this worldwide belief. Putin's attack on ISIS was in part enabled by the fact that ISIS was a US/Israel construct, because for the US to attack Russia would appear as support for ISIS, thus allowing Putin's actions. Now back to the AUMF/Koh/University of Illinois/Yousuf.. See Lawfare blog: In a May 2013 speech, Obama talked about the repeal of the AUMF. "The President’s historic move in that speech was to call for the eventual repeal of the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) and the end of what I had called at the Oxford Union the “Forever War.”  The President cogently summarized why we should reject indefinite war in favor of an “exit strategy” to bring this protracted conflict with Al Qaeda, like all wars, to an end." see below article: The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration's Interpretation of the 2001 AUMF The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration... and Obama also said:  "We should keep trying to end the Forever War. Our eventual goal should be to repeal the AUMF. Almost thirteen years after 9/11, it is increasingly problematic to rely on the 2001 AUMF to conduct all of America’s counterterrorism operations." In May 2014 ...http://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Koh_Testimony.pdf ... "... that Congress should aim to “ultimately repeal, the mandate” of the AUMF but then in October of 2014 Killer Koh defended the domestic legal basis for President’s Obama’s use of force against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration's Interpretation of the 2001 AUMF And then the big switch from efforts to repeal AUMF to the full use of it against ISIS. and Lawfare blog Oct 2014: "It is against this background that we can assess the significance of Koh’s speech.  For less than six months after maintaining that “We should not use a broadly worded 13-year old AUMF text drafted for a prior situation to conduct perpetual armed conflict against a mutating group of terrorist networks,” Koh has offered a legal defense of President Obama’s decision to do precisely that.  The Forever War, as Koh defines it, far from foreseeably dead, has been given new life as a result of the rise of the Islamic State and President’s Obama’s reversal on a Koh-blessed expansion-by-interpretation of the 2001 AUMF." https://www.lawfareblog.com/significance-harold-kohs-legal-defense-administrations-interpretation-2001-aumf Al Queda has been completely exposed as a CIA creation, which took about five years or so to become mainstream news. It only took a couple of years to expose ISIS as an Israeli/US creation. http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-is-a-us-israeli-creation-top-ten-indications/5518627 ISIS is a US Israeli creation top ten indications... source Global Research #1 ISIS Foreknowledge via Leaked DIA Doc, Aug 2012 ... “there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime …” #2 ISIS Never Attacks Israel and aid ISIS ... and http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0bc_1448229854 Netanyahu ADMITS ISIS are Israel soldiers #3 Toyota Trucks ... and why are they not attacked ... a Texas plumber found out his truck with business name used by ISIS http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-12-15/how-texas-plumbers-truck-wound-isis-hands #4  ISIS’ First Class Social Media Skills ... How does a barbaric group of killers, who speak a language very different to English, who espouse fundamentalist, religious ideals (such as Sharia law), and often criticize all things Western, manage to develop such excellent social media skills? #5 Israeli Group SITE First to Release ISIS Footage ... SITE was involved in the slew of fake green screen ISIS beheadings of 2014 #6 ISIS Leader Baghdadi a Mossad Agent ... “Simon Elliot (Elliot Shimon) aka Al-Baghdadi was born of two Jewish parents and is a Mossad agent. We offer below three translations that want to assert that the Caliph Al-Baghdadi is a full Mossad agent and that he was born Jewish father and mother: #7 Leaked Cables Showing US Plotting Syrian Overthrow ... Julian Assange of Wikileaks did a great job in capturing information about what was happening in Syria years before the “Arab springs” and current war started in 2011. He reveals how William Roebuck, then chargé d’affaires at the US embassy in Damascus, was plotting to destablize the Syrian government. #8 Russia Bombs ISIS, US Protects ISIS ... Russia was able to do in a few months what the US has been unable to do for years #9 ISIS Always the Excuse for Further Intervention ... ISIS always the perfect excuse for further military intervention in Syria? Given the history of foreign meddling in Syria, particularly by the US and Israel in the last 70 years, isn’t it rather convenient that the specter of ISIS is the justification offered for proposed no-fly zones, air strikes and ground troops? How would the US and Israel conquer the Middle East without their pet Frankenstein ISIS? #10 ISIS is an Acronym for Mossad. [The Israeli Secret Intelligence Service. Interesting Coincidence] see video: https://youtu.be/jYONiyG-CZk (Dan Raviv and Yossi Melman) admit that the acronym ISIS = Mossad. http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-is-a-us-israeli-creation-top-ten-indications/5518627 Now what does all this have to do with Queer Theory, Feminism and African American Studies... Well the common thread is the Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, The Lilly Foundation....and major American Universities. It is not disputed by anyone that these foundations support the US/Israel Iraq/Afhanistan war effort over the last decades. But what is not widely known is that these foundations are also major funders of the pro-immigration and related social issues presented by the Sociology Dept of the UofI. see graphics below... and that Critical Theory as a component of Cultural Marxism is a basic element of that Department. Of course they don't characterize it this way, but it is not an inaccurate statement. It's all dressed up in unintelligible academic speak in a ruse of humanitarianism. The undeniable link from George Soros to the Clintons/Obama/US State Dept/major US universities through foundations such as the Rockefeller and Ford...etc to push immigration ultimately has its roots in the 1920s Cultural Marxism / Critical Theory mindset that Queer Theory, Feminism and African American Studies programs are an integral part of. UofI students get a one-sided globalist view of social science. Yousuf is just chasing dirty Rockefeller cash. I really feel sorry for the African American students who really think anything is going to ever change with racism in America. They are being tricked, propagandized and lied to. Soros and other billionaire controllers fund Muslim refugee invasion of U.S…. Obama admin withholding info about 86,000 criminal illegal immigrants « InvestmentWatch Soros and other billionaire controllers fund Muslim refugee invasion of U.S... The Trump phenomena is a direct push-back to this effort. It is a sinister plan where Soros/Clintons/Universities...et al, can bandy the 'racist' accusation against Trumps followers, where their actual agenda follows the Jewish Marxist Institute of Social Research theories rooted in the 1920s... which is to destroy white, nationalist, capitalist American/European culture to pave the way for a Jewish NWO which began as a Jewish Bolshevik revolution. Of course this is a simplistic and inflammatory way of presenting these ideas, but I want to be as brief and direct as I can. This is absolutely related to the relationship between fraudulent wars and the refugee crisis they create. The only way to force millions of people to risk their lives to get to Europe is war. It also has been proven that the initial Syrian crisis was caused by false flag US/Israel terrorism (chemical weapons/color revolutions). 9/11 was a false flag event that eventually led to the creation of ISIS by Israel/US. Again, AWARE cannot/will not confirm that al Queda/ISIS are fraudulent creations because it gets too close to the fact that the so-called al Queda hijackers could not have accomplished 9/11. If the hijackers didn't do it, then who did?  All evidence points to Neocon/Zionists. AWARE will not recognize this, which makes them complicit in the cover-up of 9/11, which led to the absolutely needless deaths of possibly a million Iraqis/Afghans. Much of the theory in this article is inspired by Professor Kevin McDonald. http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/author/kmac/ Professor Kevin McDonald was a speaker in the latest Academic Freedom Conference II held on line in Sept 2016 along with the Midwest 9/11 II. Kevin McDonald is a principle in the American Freedom Party. http://american3rdposition.com/?p=7796 The American Freedom Party is not a white supremacist, neoNazi organization.  It was formed in part to counter the measures of the Cultural Marxism phenomena. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Sep 23 15:09:58 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 15:09:58 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 165 In-Reply-To: <1397739202.328933.1474642282799@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1397739202.328933.1474642282799@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Stephen You are known in this community as an anti-semite, not because you speak out against Israel but because you continually blame everything on “Jews”, only using the term “Zionists” on occasion when you think you must. I really dislike getting personal, but you have provoked the issue. You are now using the Killer Koh protest to promote yourself. Your involvement will be counterproductive to uniting the community against the abuse and oppression of these barbarians ruling over us. I say this in spite of the fact that I’ve been warned not to provoke “you", but because others need to understand you do not represent AWARE. You are on this peace list only because some people support your freedom of speech. I don’t, I don't feel the need to provide racists with a soapbox or megaphone, anymore than I like Killer Koh, coming to the U of I COL to promote Hillary and an agenda to further death and destruction by way of lies and propaganda. I will no longer communicate with you on this or any other topic. On Sep 23, 2016, at 07:51, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: You have completely confirmed my beliefs. Yes, ISIS is here and now and was/is a creation of Israel/US/Saudi Arabia.... and is a replacement for the fear-mongering tool 'al Queda'. You are confirming that al Queda was a fraudulent entity, but you won't make the connection that it was fraudulently used to start the Afghan/Iraq wars. Why is it a fraud now, but unimportant in respect to 2001? The 2001 AUMF was created only 18 days after 9/11 and Barak and Bremmer (Jews) were blaming al Queda for 9/11 within 45 minutes of the controlled demolition of the WTC. Killer Koh was a major player in the 2001 AUMF from al Queda to ISIS... He is going to be on campus October 28, here, now and the future.... John Brennan, the current head of the CIA and former chief counterterrorism advisor to Obama was the most important person in keeping Obama looking forward and not back (to 9/11) Your statement "we need to focus on the here and now." parrots his mission. It's called cover-up. There are thousands of pieces of information proving that the Afghan/Iraq wars were planned well in advance of 9/11 and that the need and existence for patsies was essential. To deny the importance of this is to contribute to the cover-up and deaths/displacement of millions of Iraqis/Afghans. al Queda was fraudulent then and now. What we need is a war crimes tribunal completely free of any Israeli influence. That's what needs to be done. NOW and it has to implicate Israel. On Friday, September 23, 2016 10:07 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" > wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Killer Koh, Trump, Universities & War, Queer Theory, Feminism, African America Studies ... links. (Karen Aram) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 14:07:09 +0000 From: Karen Aram > To: Stephen Francis > Cc: "Francis A. Boyle" >, Peace-discuss List > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Killer Koh, Trump, Universities & War, Queer Theory, Feminism, African America Studies ... links. Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Stephen, what planet are you on? We of AWARE, have said all along, non stop even at the expense of being labeled, yes the US with our allies of which Israel is major, created ISIS. From the first arming of the Afghan resistance in 1979 under the Carter administration, by then Secretary Zbigniew Brzezinski in his efforts to "give Russia their Vietnam”. Right now humanity is facing total disaster with the potential for nuclear war given US provocations, we need to focus on the here and now. The American people aren’t stupid many know well what our government is responsible for creating, they just don’t know what to do to stop it. On Sep 23, 2016, at 06:32, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss >> wrote: The Killer Koh issue goes way beyond drones. Killer Koh and Jeh Johnson (Sec of DHS) were among the main legal authorities in the effort to repeal the 2001 AUMF (al Queda focus) and then to reuse/refocus the AUMF against ISIS. The 2001 AUMF was used to authorize all the fraudulent wars/drone activities since 9/11. Without 9/11, the 2001 AUMF could never have been created. Both al Queda and ISIS have been proven to be fraudulent creations of Israel and the US. I may be mistaken, but I don't believe that anyone in AWARE will confirm that ISIS and al Queda are creations of Israel/US despite overwhelming evidence to confirm this. AWARE can't confirm this because it would get to close to the fact that al Queda had no material involvement in the destruction of the WTC on 9/11. The hijackers were just patsies like Oswald. Again, will AWARE confirm that al Queda and ISIS are part of fictitious/fraudulent ruse to feed Islamophobia and the multi-trillion dollar boondoggle called the 'war on terror'?. AWARE might dance around the edges of the fact that al Queda was a CIA creation but AWARE will not implicate Israel, which has been proven to be complicit in the events of 9/11 and ISIS through the illegal Iraq War. I will be called delusional, 'a conspiracy nut' or ignored, but that doesn't negate this worldwide belief. Putin's attack on ISIS was in part enabled by the fact that ISIS was a US/Israel construct, because for the US to attack Russia would appear as support for ISIS, thus allowing Putin's actions. Now back to the AUMF/Koh/University of Illinois/Yousuf.. See Lawfare blog: In a May 2013 speech, Obama talked about the repeal of the AUMF. "The President’s historic move in that speech was to call for the eventual repeal of the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) and the end of what I had called at the Oxford Union the “Forever War.” The President cogently summarized why we should reject indefinite war in favor of an “exit strategy” to bring this protracted conflict with Al Qaeda, like all wars, to an end." see below article: The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration's Interpretation of the 2001 AUMF The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration... and Obama also said: "We should keep trying to end the Forever War. Our eventual goal should be to repeal the AUMF. Almost thirteen years after 9/11, it is increasingly problematic to rely on the 2001 AUMF to conduct all of America’s counterterrorism operations." In May 2014 ...http://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Koh_Testimony.pdf ... "... that Congress should aim to “ultimately repeal, the mandate” of the AUMF but then in October of 2014 Killer Koh defended the domestic legal basis for President’s Obama’s use of force against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration's Interpretation of the 2001 AUMF And then the big switch from efforts to repeal AUMF to the full use of it against ISIS. and Lawfare blog Oct 2014: "It is against this background that we can assess the significance of Koh’s speech. For less than six months after maintaining that “We should not use a broadly worded 13-year old AUMF text drafted for a prior situation to conduct perpetual armed conflict against a mutating group of terrorist networks,” Koh has offered a legal defense of President Obama’s decision to do precisely that. The Forever War, as Koh defines it, far from foreseeably dead, has been given new life as a result of the rise of the Islamic State and President’s Obama’s reversal on a Koh-blessed expansion-by-interpretation of the 2001 AUMF." https://www.lawfareblog.com/significance-harold-kohs-legal-defense-administrations-interpretation-2001-aumf Al Queda has been completely exposed as a CIA creation, which took about five years or so to become mainstream news. It only took a couple of years to expose ISIS as an Israeli/US creation. http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-is-a-us-israeli-creation-top-ten-indications/5518627 ISIS is a US Israeli creation top ten indications... source Global Research #1 ISIS Foreknowledge via Leaked DIA Doc, Aug 2012 ... “there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime …” #2 ISIS Never Attacks Israel and aid ISIS ... and http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0bc_1448229854 Netanyahu ADMITS ISIS are Israel soldiers #3 Toyota Trucks ... and why are they not attacked ... a Texas plumber found out his truck with business name used by ISIS http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-12-15/how-texas-plumbers-truck-wound-isis-hands #4 ISIS’ First Class Social Media Skills ... How does a barbaric group of killers, who speak a language very different to English, who espouse fundamentalist, religious ideals (such as Sharia law), and often criticize all things Western, manage to develop such excellent social media skills? #5 Israeli Group SITE First to Release ISIS Footage ... SITE was involved in the slew of fake green screen ISIS beheadings of 2014 #6 ISIS Leader Baghdadi a Mossad Agent ... “Simon Elliot (Elliot Shimon) aka Al-Baghdadi was born of two Jewish parents and is a Mossad agent. We offer below three translations that want to assert that the Caliph Al-Baghdadi is a full Mossad agent and that he was born Jewish father and mother: #7 Leaked Cables Showing US Plotting Syrian Overthrow ... Julian Assange of Wikileaks did a great job in capturing information about what was happening in Syria years before the “Arab springs” and current war started in 2011. He reveals how William Roebuck, then chargé d’affaires at the US embassy in Damascus, was plotting to destablize the Syrian government. #8 Russia Bombs ISIS, US Protects ISIS ... Russia was able to do in a few months what the US has been unable to do for years #9 ISIS Always the Excuse for Further Intervention ... ISIS always the perfect excuse for further military intervention in Syria? Given the history of foreign meddling in Syria, particularly by the US and Israel in the last 70 years, isn’t it rather convenient that the specter of ISIS is the justification offered for proposed no-fly zones, air strikes and ground troops? How would the US and Israel conquer the Middle East without their pet Frankenstein ISIS? #10 ISIS is an Acronym for Mossad. [The Israeli Secret Intelligence Service. Interesting Coincidence] see video: https://youtu.be/jYONiyG-CZk (Dan Raviv and Yossi Melman) admit that the acronym ISIS = Mossad. http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-is-a-us-israeli-creation-top-ten-indications/5518627 Now what does all this have to do with Queer Theory, Feminism and African American Studies... Well the common thread is the Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, The Lilly Foundation....and major American Universities. It is not disputed by anyone that these foundations support the US/Israel Iraq/Afhanistan war effort over the last decades. But what is not widely known is that these foundations are also major funders of the pro-immigration and related social issues presented by the Sociology Dept of the UofI. see graphics below... and that Critical Theory as a component of Cultural Marxism is a basic element of that Department. Of course they don't characterize it this way, but it is not an inaccurate statement. It's all dressed up in unintelligible academic speak in a ruse of humanitarianism. The undeniable link from George Soros to the Clintons/Obama/US State Dept/major US universities through foundations such as the Rockefeller and Ford...etc to push immigration ultimately has its roots in the 1920s Cultural Marxism / Critical Theory mindset that Queer Theory, Feminism and African American Studies programs are an integral part of. UofI students get a one-sided globalist view of social science. Yousuf is just chasing dirty Rockefeller cash. I really feel sorry for the African American students who really think anything is going to ever change with racism in America. They are being tricked, propagandized and lied to. Soros and other billionaire controllers fund Muslim refugee invasion of U.S…. Obama admin withholding info about 86,000 criminal illegal immigrants « InvestmentWatch Soros and other billionaire controllers fund Muslim refugee invasion of U.S... The Trump phenomena is a direct push-back to this effort. It is a sinister plan where Soros/Clintons/Universities...et al, can bandy the 'racist' accusation against Trumps followers, where their actual agenda follows the Jewish Marxist Institute of Social Research theories rooted in the 1920s... which is to destroy white, nationalist, capitalist American/European culture to pave the way for a Jewish NWO which began as a Jewish Bolshevik revolution. Of course this is a simplistic and inflammatory way of presenting these ideas, but I want to be as brief and direct as I can. This is absolutely related to the relationship between fraudulent wars and the refugee crisis they create. The only way to force millions of people to risk their lives to get to Europe is war. It also has been proven that the initial Syrian crisis was caused by false flag US/Israel terrorism (chemical weapons/color revolutions). 9/11 was a false flag event that eventually led to the creation of ISIS by Israel/US. Again, AWARE cannot/will not confirm that al Queda/ISIS are fraudulent creations because it gets too close to the fact that the so-called al Queda hijackers could not have accomplished 9/11. If the hijackers didn't do it, then who did? All evidence points to Neocon/Zionists. AWARE will not recognize this, which makes them complicit in the cover-up of 9/11, which led to the absolutely needless deaths of possibly a million Iraqis/Afghans. Much of the theory in this article is inspired by Professor Kevin McDonald. http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/author/kmac/ Professor Kevin McDonald was a speaker in the latest Academic Freedom Conference II held on line in Sept 2016 along with the Midwest 9/11 II. Kevin McDonald is a principle in the American Freedom Party. http://american3rdposition.com/?p=7796 The American Freedom Party is not a white supremacist, neoNazi organization. It was formed in part to counter the measures of the Cultural Marxism phenomena. 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URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 23 15:31:40 2016 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 15:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 152, Issue 165 In-Reply-To: References: <1397739202.328933.1474642282799@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1472403279.390840.1474644700511@mail.yahoo.com> In a way, I provide a service to those protecting Israel.One should always listen to your enemies if for no other reason but to hone your skills in understanding and countering their arguments.The problem with your reaction is that it's just the same ole epithets... so I gain nothing and you could gain something.No one ever tries to prove me wrong, it's just epithets.  Does that mean I'm right.... no... but the evidence says I am....but no one will ever argue with evidence, which is predictable. I just reflect a major conversation that's occurring on the internet. You are increasingly going to need to know how to defend yourself.Identifying and understanding controlled opposition/coverup (AWARE) is an especially important and essential tool in my case.Freedom of speech is an essential element in a civil society. We are all gaining something, as much as you don't like it. On Friday, September 23, 2016 11:13 AM, Karen Aram wrote: Stephen  You are known in this community as an anti-semite, not because you speak out against Israel but because you continually blame everything on “Jews”, only using the term “Zionists” on occasion when you think you must. I really dislike getting personal, but you have provoked the issue.  You are now using the Killer Koh protest to promote yourself. Your involvement will be counterproductive to uniting the community against the abuse and oppression of these barbarians ruling over us. I say this in spite of the fact that I’ve been warned not to provoke “you", but because others need to understand you do not represent AWARE. You are on this peace list only because some people support your freedom of speech. I don’t, I don't feel the need to provide racists with a soapbox or megaphone, anymore than I like  Killer Koh, coming to the U of I COL to promote Hillary and an agenda to further death and destruction by way of lies and propaganda.  I will no longer communicate with you on this or any other topic. On Sep 23, 2016, at 07:51, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: You have completely confirmed my beliefs.Yes, ISIS is here and now and was/is a creation of Israel/US/Saudi Arabia.... and is a replacement for the fear-mongering tool 'al Queda'.You are confirming that al Queda was a fraudulent entity, but you won't make the connection that it was fraudulently used to start the Afghan/Iraq wars.  Why is it a fraud now, but unimportant in respect to 2001? The 2001 AUMF was created only 18 days after 9/11 and Barak and Bremmer (Jews) were blaming al Queda for 9/11 within 45 minutes of the controlled demolition of the WTC.Killer Koh was a major player in the 2001 AUMF from al Queda to ISIS... He is going to be on campus October 28, here, now and the future.... John Brennan, the current head of the CIA and former chief counterterrorism advisor to Obama was the most important person in keeping Obama looking forward and not back (to 9/11) Your statement"we need to focus on the here and now." parrots his mission. It's called cover-up. There are thousands of pieces of information proving that the Afghan/Iraq wars were planned well in advance of 9/11 and that the need and existence for patsies was essential. To deny the importance of this is to contribute to the cover-up and deaths/displacement of millions of Iraqis/Afghans. al Queda was fraudulent then and now. What we need is a war crimes tribunal completely free of any Israeli influence.That's what needs to be done. NOW and it has to implicate Israel. On Friday, September 23, 2016 10:07 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" wrote: Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net You can reach the person managing the list at     peace-discuss-owner at lists.chambana.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Killer Koh, Trump, Universities & War, Queer Theory,       Feminism, African America Studies ... links. (Karen Aram) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 14:07:09 +0000 From: Karen Aram To: Stephen Francis Cc: "Francis A. Boyle" , Peace-discuss List     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Killer Koh, Trump, Universities & War,     Queer Theory, Feminism, African America Studies ... links. Message-ID:         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Stephen, what planet are you on? We of AWARE, have said all along, non stop even at the expense of being labeled, yes the US with our allies of which Israel is major, created ISIS. From the first arming of the Afghan resistance in 1979 under the Carter administration, by then Secretary Zbigniew Brzezinski in his efforts to "give Russia their Vietnam”. Right now humanity is facing total disaster with the potential for nuclear war given US provocations, we need to focus on the here and now. The American people aren’t stupid many know well what our government is responsible for creating, they just don’t know what to do to stop it. On Sep 23, 2016, at 06:32, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: The Killer Koh issue goes way beyond drones. Killer Koh and Jeh Johnson (Sec of DHS) were among the main legal authorities in the effort to repeal the 2001 AUMF (al Queda focus) and then to reuse/refocus the AUMF against ISIS. The 2001 AUMF was used to authorize all the fraudulent wars/drone activities since 9/11. Without 9/11, the 2001 AUMF could never have been created. Both al Queda and ISIS have been proven to be fraudulent creations of Israel and the US. I may be mistaken, but I don't believe that anyone in AWARE will confirm that ISIS and al Queda are creations of Israel/US despite overwhelming evidence to confirm this. AWARE can't confirm this because it would get to close to the fact that al Queda had no material involvement in the destruction of the WTC on 9/11. The hijackers were just patsies like Oswald. Again, will AWARE confirm that al Queda and ISIS are part of fictitious/fraudulent ruse to feed Islamophobia and the multi-trillion dollar boondoggle called the 'war on terror'?. AWARE might dance around the edges of the fact that al Queda was a CIA creation but AWARE will not implicate Israel, which has been proven to be complicit in the events of 9/11 and ISIS through the illegal Iraq War. I will be called delusional, 'a conspiracy nut' or ignored, but that doesn't negate this worldwide belief. Putin's attack on ISIS was in part enabled by the fact that ISIS was a US/Israel construct, because for the US to attack Russia would appear as support for ISIS, thus allowing Putin's actions. Now back to the AUMF/Koh/University of Illinois/Yousuf.. See Lawfare blog: In a May 2013 speech, Obama talked about the repeal of the AUMF. "The President’s historic move in that speech was to call for the eventual repeal of the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) and the end of what I had called at the Oxford Union the “Forever War.”  The President cogently summarized why we should reject indefinite war in favor of an “exit strategy” to bring this protracted conflict with Al Qaeda, like all wars, to an end." see below article: The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration's Interpretation of the 2001 AUMF The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration... and Obama also said:  "We should keep trying to end the Forever War. Our eventual goal should be to repeal the AUMF. Almost thirteen years after 9/11, it is increasingly problematic to rely on the 2001 AUMF to conduct all of America’s counterterrorism operations." In May 2014 ...http://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Koh_Testimony.pdf ... "... that Congress should aim to “ultimately repeal, the mandate” of the AUMF but then in October of 2014 Killer Koh defended the domestic legal basis for President’s Obama’s use of force against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. The Significance of Harold Koh's Legal Defense of the Administration's Interpretation of the 2001 AUMF And then the big switch from efforts to repeal AUMF to the full use of it against ISIS. and Lawfare blog Oct 2014: "It is against this background that we can assess the significance of Koh’s speech.  For less than six months after maintaining that “We should not use a broadly worded 13-year old AUMF text drafted for a prior situation to conduct perpetual armed conflict against a mutating group of terrorist networks,” Koh has offered a legal defense of President Obama’s decision to do precisely that.  The Forever War, as Koh defines it, far from foreseeably dead, has been given new life as a result of the rise of the Islamic State and President’s Obama’s reversal on a Koh-blessed expansion-by-interpretation of the 2001 AUMF." https://www.lawfareblog.com/significance-harold-kohs-legal-defense-administrations-interpretation-2001-aumf Al Queda has been completely exposed as a CIA creation, which took about five years or so to become mainstream news. It only took a couple of years to expose ISIS as an Israeli/US creation. http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-is-a-us-israeli-creation-top-ten-indications/5518627 ISIS is a US Israeli creation top ten indications... source Global Research #1 ISIS Foreknowledge via Leaked DIA Doc, Aug 2012 ... “there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime …” #2 ISIS Never Attacks Israel and aid ISIS ... and http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0bc_1448229854 Netanyahu ADMITS ISIS are Israel soldiers #3 Toyota Trucks ... and why are they not attacked ... a Texas plumber found out his truck with business name used by ISIShttp://www.pri.org/stories/2015-12-15/how-texas-plumbers-truck-wound-isis-hands #4  ISIS’ First Class Social Media Skills ... How does a barbaric group of killers, who speak a language very different to English, who espouse fundamentalist, religious ideals (such as Sharia law), and often criticize all things Western, manage to develop such excellent social media skills? #5 Israeli Group SITE First to Release ISIS Footage ... SITE was involved in the slew of fake green screen ISIS beheadings of 2014 #6 ISIS Leader Baghdadi a Mossad Agent ... “Simon Elliot (Elliot Shimon) aka Al-Baghdadi was born of two Jewish parents and is a Mossad agent. We offer below three translations that want to assert that the Caliph Al-Baghdadi is a full Mossad agent and that he was born Jewish father and mother: #7 Leaked Cables Showing US Plotting Syrian Overthrow ... Julian Assange of Wikileaks did a great job in capturing information about what was happening in Syria years before the “Arab springs” and current war started in 2011. He reveals how William Roebuck, then chargé d’affaires at the US embassy in Damascus, was plotting to destablize the Syrian government. #8 Russia Bombs ISIS, US Protects ISIS ... Russia was able to do in a few months what the US has been unable to do for years #9 ISIS Always the Excuse for Further Intervention ... ISIS always the perfect excuse for further military intervention in Syria? Given the history of foreign meddling in Syria, particularly by the US and Israel in the last 70 years, isn’t it rather convenient that the specter of ISIS is the justification offered for proposed no-fly zones, air strikes and ground troops? How would the US and Israel conquer the Middle East without their pet Frankenstein ISIS? #10 ISIS is an Acronym for Mossad. [The Israeli Secret Intelligence Service. Interesting Coincidence] see video:https://youtu.be/jYONiyG-CZk(Dan Raviv and Yossi Melman) admit that the acronym ISIS = Mossad. http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-is-a-us-israeli-creation-top-ten-indications/5518627 Now what does all this have to do with Queer Theory, Feminism and African American Studies... Well the common thread is the Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, The Lilly Foundation....and major American Universities. It is not disputed by anyone that these foundations support the US/Israel Iraq/Afhanistan war effort over the last decades. But what is not widely known is that these foundations are also major funders of the pro-immigration and related social issues presented by the Sociology Dept of the UofI. see graphics below... and that Critical Theory as a component of Cultural Marxism is a basic element of that Department. Of course they don't characterize it this way, but it is not an inaccurate statement. It's all dressed up in unintelligible academic speak in a ruse of humanitarianism. The undeniable link from George Soros to the Clintons/Obama/US State Dept/major US universities through foundations such as the Rockefeller and Ford...etc to push immigration ultimately has its roots in the 1920s Cultural Marxism / Critical Theory mindset that Queer Theory, Feminism and African American Studies programs are an integral part of. UofI students get a one-sided globalist view of social science. Yousuf is just chasing dirty Rockefeller cash. I really feel sorry for the African American students who really think anything is going to ever change with racism in America. They are being tricked, propagandized and lied to. Soros and other billionaire controllers fund Muslim refugee invasion of U.S…. Obama admin withholding info about 86,000 criminal illegal immigrants « InvestmentWatch Soros and other billionaire controllers fund Muslim refugee invasion of U.S... The Trump phenomena is a direct push-back to this effort. It is a sinister plan where Soros/Clintons/Universities...et al, can bandy the 'racist' accusation against Trumps followers, where their actual agenda follows the Jewish Marxist Institute of Social Research theories rooted in the 1920s... which is to destroy white, nationalist, capitalist American/European culture to pave the way for a Jewish NWO which began as a Jewish Bolshevik revolution. Of course this is a simplistic and inflammatory way of presenting these ideas, but I want to be as brief and direct as I can. This is absolutely related to the relationship between fraudulent wars and the refugee crisis they create. The only way to force millions of people to risk their lives to get to Europe is war. It also has been proven that the initial Syrian crisis was caused by false flag US/Israel terrorism (chemical weapons/color revolutions). 9/11 was a false flag event that eventually led to the creation of ISIS by Israel/US. Again, AWARE cannot/will not confirm that al Queda/ISIS are fraudulent creations because it gets too close to the fact that the so-called al Queda hijackers could not have accomplished 9/11. If the hijackers didn't do it, then who did?  All evidence points to Neocon/Zionists. AWARE will not recognize this, which makes them complicit in the cover-up of 9/11, which led to the absolutely needless deaths of possibly a million Iraqis/Afghans. Much of the theory in this article is inspired by Professor Kevin McDonald. http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/author/kmac/ Professor Kevin McDonald was a speaker in the latest Academic Freedom Conference II held on line in Sept 2016 along with the Midwest 9/11 II. Kevin McDonald is a principle in the American Freedom Party. http://american3rdposition.com/?p=7796 The American Freedom Party is not a white supremacist, neoNazi organization.  It was formed in part to counter the measures of the Cultural Marxism phenomena. These views are just a reflection of credible research done on a massive scale by ordinary people in order to protect themselves from a real threat to their freedom and lives. If you got this far, thank you. Steve Francis _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Sep 23 15:44:33 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 15:44:33 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Keith Lamont Scott In-Reply-To: <18b079-18a8-57e54bf5@list.colorofchange.org> References: <18b079-18a8-57e54bf5@list.colorofchange.org> Message-ID: On Sep 23, 2016, at 08:36, Arisha Michelle Hatch, Color Of Change > wrote: A new NC law could mean we will never see the footage of Keith Scott's murder. [Charlotte protests] Demand the Department of Justice take action against North Carolina's blue wall of silence. TAKE ACTION! Karen, Charlotte is on fire. And Black people are in pain yet again as the news of Keith Lamont Scott’s killing hit less than 24 hours after news outlets plastered the video of Terence Crutcher’s murder on tv screens across the country.1 According to his family, Keith Lamont Scott, a 43-year-old disabled man, was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting to pick his son up from school when he was shot and killed by Charlotte police. Yes, a book. They say he didn’t have a gun. And in a live video immediately after the incident, Keith’s daughter yelled at investigators not to plant a gun in his car. “Because that’s what the f**k y’all do,” she said.2 Charlotte police had no regard for Keith's life and are telling a completely different tale of events leading to Keith’s killing. But a new North Carolina law could mean the public will never see the body cam footage. North Carolina just passed a law, HB 978, that prohibits body and dash cam footage from being released to the public.3 And while the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Chief, Kerr Putney, has the authority to release the footage of Keith Lamont Scott’s death before the law goes into effect in October--he won’t. But the good news is that the Department of Justice has the authority to push them to do the right thing, and hit Charlotte police where it hurts--their pockets. Soon, the Justice Department will be announcing winners of their federal grant programs. If the DOJ refuses to award any new grants to North Carolina while this law is in place, they could force the state to reverse it. Will you sign the petition? Tell the DOJ: Don’t reward North Carolina police with new grants until it overturns HB 978. Police rolled up on Keith in plain clothes and were attempting to serve an arrest warrant for someone else. They had the wrong person. But in step with the dangerous police culture of hyper-violence and a “shoot first” mentality, Charlotte police acted in complete disregard for his life, shot and killed him. Now his children are without a father and a family is seeking answers--but Charlotte-Mecklenburg police are refusing to release the footage that could provide some. Too often police have been caught lying. And the cases of Walter Scott, Terence Crutcher, Tamir Rice. Sandra Bland, LaQuan McDonald, and Sam Dubose show us the importance of having access to the video footage.4 North Carolina launched its universal body-cam program last year--yet they’ve barely gotten any good use out of it. Since May, Charlotte-Mecklenburg police have shot and killed four people--and body cameras were turned on in only one.5 Still, lawmakers passed HB 978, a law that would prohibit the public from ever seeing body cam footage, unless they obtained a court order. It’s a slap in the face to any calls for transparency and accountability and defeats the entire purpose of even having body-cameras. But even if local officials won’t use their power to release the video footage, the Department of Justice can. When North Carolina lawmakers passed a terribly transphobic law, HB 2, that allowed discrimination against transgender folks, the Justice Department threatened to sue the state--and even got them to back down from a counter-lawsuit.6 On Wednesday, Attorney General Lynch gave a speech noting the “sorrow, anger and uncertainty” people are feeling right now after dealing with the trauma of Black people being killed again, and again, and again.7 But the best way her office can assure accountability and transparency in Keith Lamont Scott’s murder is to take action against North Carolina’s terrible blue wall of silence. Keith’s family deserves justice and full transparency. Demand the Department of Justice take action against the law allowing Charlotte police to protect their own by hiding the truth. Until justice is real, Arisha, Rashad, Scott, Clarise, Anay, and the rest of the Color Of Change team References: 1. "Keith Lamont Scott: 5 Fast Facts You Should Know," Heavy, September 20, 2016 2. "Keith Scott shooting: Charlotte police say they warned him to drop handgun," The Guardian, September 22, 2016 3. "New North Carolina law might prevent Keith Lamont Scott body cam footage from release," New York Daily News, September 21, 2016 4. "Caught on Tape, Caught in a Lie: 5 Times Video Proved Police Were Lying," The Root, February 22, 2016 5. "Charlotte's top cop claims he can't show you videos that prove Keith Scott's killing was justified," ThinkProgress, September 21, 2016 6. "North Carolina Governor Drops 'Bathroom Bill' Lawsuit Against U.S.," NPR, September 19, 2016 7. "Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch Delivers Remarks at the International Bar Association's 2016 Annual Conference," The United States Department of Justice, September 21, 2016 [http://act.colorofchange.org/o.gif?akid=6312.1618041.vSyTFc] ________________________________ Color Of Change is building a movement to elevate the voices of Black folks and our allies, and win real social and political change. Help keep our movement strong. If you're absolutely sure you don't want to hear from Color Of Change again, click here to unsubscribe. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Fri Sep 23 18:42:17 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 13:42:17 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Brother (& sister), can you spare a phrase (& paraphrase...)? In-Reply-To: <9EBE2F1E-BE1B-4267-A647-69D840FAB8F3@newsfromneptune.com> References: <9EBE2F1E-BE1B-4267-A647-69D840FAB8F3@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: Neptuners & AWARE ON THE AIR panelists: I demonstrate once again on tonight’s News from Neptune why we should never READ an article on the air - but present it, describe it. I unfortunately tried to read Glen Ford’s recent column on Syria: I would have done much better to paraphrase it. I wold suggest, when we bring important articles to the shows, we TELL people what’s in them, not read them. I’m happy to post the articles on the AWARE or NFN fb page. And I repent of my rash excess in reading Ford’s important article. —CGE From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Sep 24 17:58:04 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 17:58:04 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] America's Worldwide Impunity Message-ID: America’s Worldwide Impunity Published on Monday, September 19, 2016 by Consortium News America’s Worldwide Impunity The mainstream U.S. media is treating the U.S.-led airstrike that killed scores of Syrian troops as an unfortunate boo-boo, ignoring that the U.S. and its allies have no legal right to operate in Syria at all by Robert Parry * * * * * * * 73 Comments [http://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/styles/cd_large/public/views-article/new-york-times-building.jpg?itok=OdQ8nrRQ] "The New York Times now reeks of propaganda, especially aimed at two of the current targets, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and Russian President Vladimir Putin," writes Robert Parry. (Photo: Sam Chills/flickr/cc) After several years of arming and supporting Syrian rebel groups that often collaborated with Al Qaeda’s Nusra terror affiliate, the United States launched an illegal invasion of Syria two years ago with airstrikes supposedly aimed at Al Qaeda’s Islamic State spin-off, but on Saturday that air war killed scores of Syrian soldiers and aided an Islamic State victory. Yet, the major American news outlets treat this extraordinary set of circumstances as barely newsworthy, operating with an imperial hubris that holds any U.S. invasion or subversion of another country as simply, ho-hum, the way things are supposed to work. In the world of Official Washington, the United States has the right to intervene anywhere, anytime, for whatever reason it chooses. On Monday, The Washington Post dismissed the devastating airstrike at Deir al-Zour killing at least 62 Syrian soldiers as one of several “mishaps” that had occurred over the past week and jeopardized a limited ceasefire, arranged between Russia and the Obama administration. But the fact that the U.S. and several allies have been routinely violating Syrian sovereign airspace to carry out attacks was not even an issue, nor is it a scandal that the U.S. military and CIA have been arming and training Syrian rebels. In the world of Official Washington, the United States has the right to intervene anywhere, anytime, for whatever reason it chooses. President Barack Obama even has publicly talked about authorizing military strikes in seven different countries, including Syria, and yet he is deemed “weak” for not invading more countries, at least more decisively. Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton has vowed to engage in a larger invasion of Syria, albeit wrapping the aggression in pretty words like “safe zone” and “no-fly zone,” but it would mean bombing and killing more Syrian soldiers. As Secretary of State, Clinton used similar language to justify invading Libya and implementing a “regime change” that killed the nation’s leader, Muammar Gaddafi, and unleashed five years of violent political chaos. If you were living a truly democratic country with a truly professional news media, you would think that this evolution of the United States into a rogue superpower violating pretty much every international law and treaty of the post-World War II era would be a regular topic of debate and criticism. Those crimes include horrendous acts against people, such as torture and other violations of the Geneva Conventions, as well as acts of aggression, which the Nuremberg Tribunals deemed “the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.” Justifying ‘Regime Change’ Yet, instead of insisting on accountability for American leaders who have committed these crimes, the mainstream U.S. news media spreads pro-war propaganda against any nation or leader that refuses to bend to America’s imperial demands. In other words, the U.S. news media creates the rationalizations and arranges the public acquiescence for U.S. invasions and subversions of other countries. In particular, The New York Times now reeks of propaganda, especially aimed at two of the current targets, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and Russian President Vladimir Putin. With all pretenses of professionalism cast aside, the Times has descended into the status of a crude propaganda organ. If anyone operates with “impunity,” it has been the leadership of the U.S. government. On Sunday, the Times described Assad’s visit to a town recently regained from the rebels this way: “Assad Smiles as Syria Burns, His Grip and Impunity Secure.” That was the headline. The article began: “On the day after his 51st birthday, Bashar al-Assad, the president of Syria, took a victory lap through the dusty streets of a destroyed and empty rebel town that his forces had starved into submission. “Smiling, with his shirt open at the collar, he led officials in dark suits past deserted shops and bombed-out buildings before telling a reporter that — despite a cease-fire announced by the United States and Russia — he was committed ‘to taking back all areas from the terrorists.’ When he says terrorists, he means all who oppose him.” The story by Ben Hubbard continues in that vein, although oddly the accompanying photograph doesn’t show Assad smiling but rather assessing the scene with a rather grim visage. But let’s unpack the propaganda elements of this front-page story, which is clearly intended to paint Assad as a sadistic monster, rather than a leader fighting a foreign-funded-and-armed rebel movement that includes radical jihadists, including powerful groups linked to Al Qaeda and others forces operating under the banner of the brutal Islamic State. The reader is supposed to recoil at Assad who “smiles as Syria burns” and who is rejoicing over his “impunity.” Then, there’s the apparent suggestion that his trip to Daraya was part of his birthday celebration so he could take “a victory lap” while “smiling, with his shirt open at the collar,” although why his collar is relevant is hard to understand. Next, there is the argumentative claim that when Assad refers to “terrorists” that “he means all who oppose him.” As much as the U.S. news media likes to pride itself on its “objectivity,” it is hard to see how this article meets any such standard, especially when the Times takes a far different posture when explaining, excusing or ignoring U.S. forces slaughtering countless civilians in multiple countries for decades and at a rapid clip over the past 15 years. If anyone operates with “impunity,” it has been the leadership of the U.S. government. Dubious Charge On Sunday, the Times also asserted as flat fact the dubious charge against Assad that he has “hit civilians with gas attacks” when the most notorious case – the sarin attack outside Damascus on Aug. 21, 2013 – appears now to have been carried out by rebels trying to trick the United States into intervening more directly on their side. A recent United Nations report blaming Syrian forces for two later attacks involving chlorine was based on slim evidence and produced under great political pressure to reach that conclusion – while ignoring the absence of any logical reason for the Syrian forces to have used such an ineffective weapon and brushing aside testimony about rebels staging other gas attacks. We find ourselves in a world in which propaganda has come to dominate the foreign policy debates and – despite the belated admissions of lies used to justify the invasions of Iraq and Libya – the U.S. media insists on labeling anyone who questions the latest round of propaganda as a “fill-in-the-blank apologist.” More often than not, U.N. officials bend to the will of the American superpower, failing to challenge any of the U.S.-sponsored invasions over recent decades, including something as blatantly illegal as the Iraq War. After all, for an aspiring U.N. bureaucrat, it’s clear which side his career bread is buttered. We find ourselves in a world in which propaganda has come to dominate the foreign policy debates and – despite the belated admissions of lies used to justify the invasions of Iraq and Libya – the U.S. media insists on labeling anyone who questions the latest round of propaganda as a “fill-in-the-blank apologist.” So, Americans who want to maintain their mainstream status shy away from contesting what the U.S. government and its complicit media assert, despite their proven track record of deceit. This is not just a case of being fooled once; it is being fooled over and over with a seemingly endless willingness to accept dubious assertion after dubious assertion. In the same Sunday edition which carried the creepy portrayal about Assad, the Times’ Neil MacFarquhar pre-disparaged Russia’s parliamentary elections because the Russian people were showing little support for the Times’ beloved “liberals,” the political descendants of the Russians who collaborated with the U.S.-driven “shock therapy” of the 1990s, a policy that impoverished a vast number of Russians and drastically reduced life expectancy. Why those Russian “liberals” have such limited support from the populace is a dark mystery to the mainstream U.S. news media, which also can’t figure out why Putin is popular for significantly reversing the “shock therapy” policies and restoring Russian life expectancy to its previous levels. No, it can’t be that Putin delivered for the Russian people; the only answer must be Putin’s “totalitarianism.” The New York Times and Washington Post have been particularly outraged over Russia’s crackdown on “grassroots” organizations that are funded by the U.S. government or by billionaire financial speculator George Soros, who has publicly urged the overthrow of Putin. So has Carl Gershman, president of the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), which funnels U.S. government cash to political and media operations abroad. The Post has decried a Russian legal requirement that political entities taking money from foreign sources must register as “foreign agents” and complains that such a designation discredits these organizations. What the Post doesn’t tell its readers is that the Russian law is modeled after the American “Foreign Agent Registration Act,” which likewise requires people trying to influence policy in favor of a foreign sponsor to register with the Justice Department. Nor do the Times and Post acknowledge the long history of the U.S. government funding foreign groups, either overtly or covertly, to destabilize targeted regimes. These U.S.-financed groups often do act as “fifth columnists” spreading propaganda designed to undermine the credibility of the leaders, whether that’s Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in 1953 or Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych in 2014. Imperfect Leaders That’s not to say that these targeted leaders were or are perfect. They are often far from it. But the essence of propaganda is to apply selective outrage and exaggeration to the leader that is marked for removal. Similar treatment does not apply to U.S.-favored leaders. The pattern of the Times and Post is also to engage in ridicule when someone in a targeted country actually perceives what is going on. The correct perception is then dismissed as some sort of paranoid conspiracy theory. Take, for example, the Times’ MacFarquhar describing a pamphlet and speeches from Nikolai Merkushkin, the governor of Russian region of Samara, that MacFarquhar says “cast the blame for Russia’s economic woes not on economic mismanagement or Western sanctions after the annexation of Crimea but on a plot by President Obama and the C.I.A. to undermine Russia.” The pattern of the Times and Post is also to engage in ridicule when someone in a targeted country actually perceives what is going on. The correct perception is then dismissed as some sort of paranoid conspiracy theory. The Times article continues: “Opposition candidates are a fifth column on the payroll of the State Department and part of the scheme, the pamphlet said, along with the collapse in oil prices and the emergence of the Islamic State. Mr. Putin is on the case, not least by rebuilding the military, the pamphlet said, noting that ‘our country forces others to take it seriously and this is something that American politicians don’t like very much.’” Yet, despite the Times’ mocking tone, the pamphlet’s perceptions are largely accurate. There can be little doubt that the U.S. government through funding of anti-Putin groups inside Russia and organizing punishing sanctions against Russia, is trying to make the Russian economy scream, destabilize the Russian government and encourage a “regime change” in Moscow. Further, President Obama has personally bristled at Russia’s attempts to reassert itself as an important world player, demeaning the former Cold War superpower as only a “regional power.” The U.S. government has even tread on that “regional” status by helping to orchestrate the 2014 putsch that overthrew Ukraine’s elected President Yanukovych on Russia’s border. After quickly calling the coup regime “legitimate,” the U.S. government supported attempts to crush resistance in the south and east which were Yanukovych’s political strongholds. Crimea’s overwhelming decision to secede from Ukraine and rejoin Russia was deemed by The New York Times a Russian “invasion” although the Russian troops that helped protect Crimea’s referendum were already inside Crimea as part of the Sevastopol basing agreement. The U.S.-backed Kiev regime’s attempt to annihilate resistance from ethnic Russians in the east – through what was called an “Anti-Terrorism Operation” that has slaughtered thousands of eastern Ukrainians – also had American backing. Russian assistance to these rebels is described in the mainstream U.S. media as Russian “aggression.” Oddly, U.S. news outlets find nothing objectionable about the U.S. government launching military strikes in countries halfway around the world, including the recent massacre of scores of Syrian soldiers, but are outraged that Russia provided military help to ethnic Russians being faced with annihilation on Russia’s border. Because of the Ukraine crisis, Hillary Clinton likened Vladimir Putin to Adolf Hitler. Seeing No Coup For its part, The New York Times concluded that there had been no coup in Ukraine – by ignoring the evidence that there was one, including an intercepted pre-coup telephone call between U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt discussing who should be made the new leaders of Ukraine. The evidence of a coup was so clear that George Friedman, founder of the global intelligence firm Stratfor, said in an interview that the overthrow of Yanukovych “really was the most blatant coup in history.” But the Times put protecting the legitimacy of the post-coup regime ahead of its journalistic responsibilities to its readers, as it has done repeatedly regarding Ukraine. The fact that Russians, like Americans, will rally around their national leader when they perceive the country to be under assault – think, George W. Bush after the 9/11 attacks – is another reality that the Times can’t tolerate. Another stunning case of double standards has been the mainstream U.S. media’s apoplexy about alleged Russian hacking into emails of prominent Americans and then making them public. These blame-Russia articles have failed to present any solid evidence that the Russians were responsible and also fail to note that the United States leads the world in using electronic means to vacuum up personal secrets about foreign leaders as well as average citizens. In a number of cases, these secrets appear to have been used to blackmail foreign leaders to get them to comply with U.S. demands, such as the case in 2002-03 of the George W. Bush administration spying on diplomats on the U.N. Security Council to coerce their votes on authorizing the U.S. invasion of Iraq, a ploy that failed. U.S. intelligence also tapped the cell phone of German Chancellor Angela Merkel, whose cooperation on Ukraine and other issues of the New Cold War is important to Washington. And then there’s the massive collection of data about virtually everybody on the planet, including U.S. citizens, over the past 15 years during the “war on terror.” Earlier this year, the mainstream U.S. news media congratulated itself over its use of hacked private business data from a Panama-based law firm, material that was said to implicate Putin in some shady business dealings even though his name never showed up in the documents. No one in the mainstream media protested that leak or questioned who did the hacking. Such mainstream media bias is pervasive. In the case of Sunday’s Russian elections, the Times seems determined to maintain the fiction that the Russian people don’t really support Putin, despite consistent opinion polls showing him with some 80 percent approval. In the Times’ version of reality, Putin’s popularity must be some kind of trick, a case of totalitarian repression of the Russian people, which would be fixed if only the U.S.-backed “liberals” were allowed to keep getting money from NED and Soros without having to divulge where the funds were coming from. The fact that Russians, like Americans, will rally around their national leader when they perceive the country to be under assault – think, George W. Bush after the 9/11 attacks – is another reality that the Times can’t tolerate. No, the explanation must be mind control. The troubling reality is that the Times, Post and other leading American news outlets have glibly applied one set of standards on “enemies” and another on the U.S. government. The Times may charge that Bashar al-Assad has “impunity” for his abuses, but what about the multitude of U.S. leaders – and, yes, journalists – who have their hands covered in the blood of Iraqis, Libyans, Afghans, Yemenis, Syrians, Somalis and other nationalities. Where is their accountability? © 2016 Consortium News [Robert Parry] Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, Neck Deep: The Disastrous Presidency of George W. Bush, was written with two of his sons, Sam and Nat. His two previous books are Secrecy & Privilege: The Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq and Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth'. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Sun Sep 25 12:34:13 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 07:34:13 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] LABOR'S WORLD VIEW T.V. Message-ID: <00a801d21729$235bea50$6a13bef0$@comcast.net> LABOR'S WORLD VIEW T.V. CHAMPAIGN TEACHER'S UNION SUPPORT RALLY ( Tuesday Sept. 20th ) Video footage of the rally from last Tuesday will be broadcast today, Sunday Sept. 25th, at 4PM on UPTV ( Urbana Public Television ) - Comcast Channel 6 and live at www.urbanapublictelevision.org After the 4-5 PM broadcast you can view the footage at the following link ; https://youtu.be/HaEXN7clFOw The rally footage is about 30 minutes long. The remaining 30 minutes is a LABOR BEAT video segment from Chicago dealing with the issue of the Chicago Teacher's Union fighting the Rahm Emanuelle administration's misallocation of Chicago school district TIFF monies being loaned to billionaire investors who have political ties to Emanuelle. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Sep 26 15:04:35 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 15:04:35 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Some of the things they won't mention tonight References: <3681564745.381589595@org.orgDB.reply.salsalabs.com> Message-ID: View this message in your browser. [World Can't Wait] [Downloads] [Store] [Chapters] [Events] Share this message: [Tweet] [Facebook] World Can't Wait will be outside the first presidential debate protesting U.S. Wars for Empire [Hillary] Tonight, September 26, anti-war protests will be held in response to the first Presidential debate, at Hofstra University on Long Island, NY, organized by Peace Action NY and World Can’t Wait, including a protest at West Point United States Military Academy, organized by KnowDrones.com, and a solidarity protest at Beale Air Force Base in California, organized by Northern California Activists United Against Drone Warfare at Beale. [http://org.salsalabs.com/o/1170/images/warsigns_250_188.jpg] We constantly learn that most people living in the U.S. have no idea that this country is in aggressive war on at least 7 countries. The Veterans for Peace banner, top, which says Hillary - Stop Hawking War! was provided by Tarak Kauff and Ellen Davidson & Veterans for Peace. It dominated the western end of the Anti-War Truth Display created by Brandywine Peace Community, Knowdrones.com and World Can’t Wait in front of the Arch Street United Methodist Church in the heart of downtown Philadelphia during the Democratic Convention. [Donate Now] Curt Wechsler of FireJohnYoo.org writes today: "The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons," wrote Russian novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky in The House of the Dead. The cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment — torture — inflicted on disfranchised subjects, from Pelican Bay in California to Bagram, Afghanistan, must not only end; the presumption of American immunity to international law must be repudiated. Dismantling of U.S. torture camps can't wait. And that is up to us. [Obama]On New Year’s Eve 2011, President Obama signed an appropriations bill into law that effectively reneged on his election promise to close Guantanamo. The duties he assumed as Commander-in-Chief, "to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution," are not supposed to be negotiable. Journalist Andy Worthington notes Obama's failure to effect closure, even though he had the means to do so. The human cost of this failure has been documented. The New York Times maintains a docket of the roughly 780 men detained at Guantanamo over the years, nine of whom died while in custody. A new book by Jeffrey Kaye, Cover-up at Guantanamo, explores the circumstances of three suspicious deaths. His Guantanamo Truth website contains documentary material for Naval Criminal Investigation Service reports on Abdul Rahman Al Amri, Mohammed Salih Al Hanashi and Adnan Farhan Abd Latif "suicides." It's time to be honest. You can't blame it on Congress. We say no more excuses and mixed messages. Release the 61 illegally detained men left at Guantanamo, including 20 uncharged "forever prisoners." Raise your voices everyplace Obama and presidential contenders appear. [Hassan Bin Attash]While Obama dallies, Congress threatens to institutionalize the indiscriminate application of criminal laws and the wanton treatment of suspected criminals at Guantanamo. Last week the U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill that would block transfers of detainees from the Guantanamo Bay prison to the U.S. mainland or any foreign country, reports Sputnik News. Security Human Rights expert Elizabeth Beavers urges a presidential veto, and speaks to election season silence on the issue. "It is unfortunate that they [candidates] don't talk about it because the decisions that the future president will make will have implications for generations to come." What happens when you don't deal with the crime of indefinite detention? 800 years of Habeas Corpus law, the right to know why you are being held captive by the State, comes undone. We witness no savior from the Democratic Party. It's up to people living in the United States to mobilize against agents of denial and neglect. Deferring responsibility for the closure of Guantanamo, on an arbitrary timetable, to President Obama has prolonged the misery of illegally held prisoners. It implies legitimacy for the lawless practice of military tribunals employed to sidestep due process. The Periodic Review Boards instituted by Executive Order 13567 on March 7, 2011 enable a legal limbo for victims of warrantless prosecution. One of those victims, former child prisoner Hassan bin Attash (pictured above), is the last to face Obama's Periodic Review Board. Deemed too innocent to charge, but too dangerous to release, he languishes at Guantanamo while authorities quibble over applicability of the Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child (Attash was just sixteen or seventeen when he was captured). "Closing Guantánamo the right way requires ending indefinite detention without charge or trial; transferring detainees who have been cleared for transfer; and trying detainees for whom there is evidence of wrongdoing in our federal criminal courts here in the U.S.," posts the ACLU. "Our federal courts routinely handle high-profile terrorism cases. If a prosecutor cannot put together a case against a detainee, there is no reason that person should continue to be imprisoned." Close Guantanamo NOW. ________________________________ [http://org.salsalabs.com/o/1170/images/hillary-petraeus.jpg]Hillary Clinton’s National Security Advisers Are a “Who’s Who” of the Warfare State Zaid Jilani, Alex Emmons, and Naomi LaChance with The Intercept write: The list of key advisers — which includes the general who executed the troop surge in Iraq and a former Bush homeland security chief turned terror profiteer — is a strong indicator that Clinton’s national security policy will not threaten the post-9/11 national-security status quo that includes active use of military power abroad and heightened security measures at home. It’s a story we’ve seen before in President Obama’s early appointments. In retrospect, analysts have pointed to the continuity in national security and intelligence advisers as an early sign that despite his campaign rhetoric Obama would end up building on — rather than tearing down — the often-extralegal, Bush-Cheney counterterror regime. 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Sep 26 19:05:28 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 19:05:28 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] From the Ed Norton Professor of Law at Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School: Killer Koh October 28 Message-ID: ...join the State Department as Legal Adviser, service for which he received the Secretary of State's Distinguished Service Award.... Yes, the Killary Distinguished Service Award for murdering tens of thousands of Muslims/Arabs/Asians Men, Women and Children of Color all over the World, including US citizens and one American Child--in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen and Somalia for starters. A Real Luca Brazzi Hitman for the US Imperial Power Elite. And before that he did the same for Reagan from 1983 to 1985. Two Global Murder Incs. Way to go Illinois/Yale Mafia School! Fab. Ed Norton Professor of Law The First 200 Days: Foreign Policy Law Challenges for the Next Administration" lecture by Harold Koh (Yale University) Friday, October 28, 2016 Max L. Rowe Auditorium, Law Building 12:00 PM-1:00 PM The University of Illinois College of Law presents the 2016 Vacketta-DLA Piper Lecture on the Role of Government and the Law, featuring Harold Koh. "The First 200 Days: Foreign Policy Law Challenges for the Next Administration" As the presidential campaign rages, the foreign policy and international law challenges have been pushed to the background. But after early November they will take center stage. What key foreign policy issues must the next Administration quickly address and what domestic and international legal challenges do they raise? Harold Hongju Koh is Sterling Professor of International Law at Yale Law School. He returned to Yale Law School in January 2013 after serving for nearly four years as the 22nd Legal Adviser of the U.S. Department of State. Professor Koh is one of the country's leading experts in public and private international law, national security law, and human rights. He first began teaching at Yale Law School in 1985 and served as its fifteenth Dean from 2004 until 2009. From 2009 to 2013, he took leave as the Martin R. Flug '55 Professor of International Law to join the State Department as Legal Adviser, service for which he received the Secretary of State's Distinguished Service Award. From 1993 to 2009, he was the Gerard C. & Bernice Latrobe Smith Professor of International Law at Yale Law School, and from 1998 to 2001, he served as U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor. Professor Koh has received fourteen honorary degrees and more than thirty awards for his human rights work, including awards from Columbia Law School and the American Bar Association for his lifetime achievements in international law. He has authored or co-authored eight books, published more than 180 articles, testified regularly before Congress, and litigated numerous cases involving international law issues in both U.S. and international tribunals. He is a Fellow of the American Philosophical Society and the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, an Honorary Fellow of Magdalen College, Oxford, and a member of the Council of the American Law Institute. He holds a B.A. degree from Harvard College and B.A. and M.A. degrees from Oxford University, where he was a Marshall Scholar. He earned his J.D. from Harvard Law School, where he was Developments Editor of the Harvard Law Review. Before coming to Yale, he served as a law clerk for Justice Harry A. Blackmun of the United States Supreme Court and Judge Malcolm Richard Wilkey of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, worked as an attorney in private practice in Washington, and served as an Attorney-Adviser for the Office of Legal Counsel, U.S. Department of Justice. About the Vacketta-DLA Piper Lecture on the Role of Government and the Law This series was made possible through the generosity of Carl Vacketta, '65, and DLA Piper, which has more than 4,200 lawyers in offices in Asia Pacific, Europe, the Middle East, and the United States; and represents more clients in a broader range of geographies and practice disciplines than any other law firm in the world. The Vacketta-DLA Piper Lecture Series is a component of The Marbury Institute, named for William L. Marbury, Jr. (1901-1988), who was instrumental in the development of the firm and devoted his career to public and community service. The Institute serves as DLA Piper's initiative to promote the highest ideals of the legal profession. The event is free and open to the public. A reception will be held in the Peer and Sarah Pedersen Pavilion following the lecture. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Tue Sep 27 04:37:08 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:37:08 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tonight's debate Message-ID: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy papers." Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton camp knows that - and are afraid. [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has refused to say.”] —CGE From jbw292002 at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 06:17:58 2016 From: jbw292002 at gmail.com (John W.) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 01:17:58 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tonight's debate In-Reply-To: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> References: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: I quite disagree with your assessment of the first debate, Carl, but does it really matter? John Wason On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace < peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a > fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But > probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was > flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy > papers." > > Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA > to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and > Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton > camp knows that - and are afraid. > > [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a > pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her > book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: > “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has > refused to say.”] > > —CGE > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Tue Sep 27 09:59:04 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 04:59:04 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tonight's debate In-Reply-To: References: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: <6D2BFDAC-B491-484A-B3B0-0952601E6885@newsfromneptune.com> Does it really matter which of them becomes president, John? I think it does - but probably not too much. Would the sum of human happiness have been much altered by a Romney rather than an Obama presidency? I doubt it. —CGE > On Sep 27, 2016, at 1:17 AM, John W. wrote: > > > I quite disagree with your assessment of the first debate, Carl, but does it really matter? > > John Wason > > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace > wrote: > > Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy papers." > > Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton camp knows that - and are afraid. > > [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has refused to say.”] > > —CGE > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Sep 27 10:55:35 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:55:35 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] From the Ed Norton Professor of Law at Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School: Killer Koh October 28 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And on October 28, 2016 the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia Faculty will become ACCESSORIES AFTER THE FACT to Killer Koh's war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide against Muslims of Color. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 2:05 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: From the Ed Norton Professor of Law at Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School: Killer Koh October 28 ...join the State Department as Legal Adviser, service for which he received the Secretary of State's Distinguished Service Award.... Yes, the Killary Distinguished Service Award for murdering tens of thousands of Muslims/Arabs/Asians Men, Women and Children of Color all over the World, including US citizens and one American Child--in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen and Somalia for starters. A Real Luca Brazzi Hitman for the US Imperial Power Elite. And before that he did the same for Reagan from 1983 to 1985. Two Global Murder Incs. Way to go Illinois/Yale Mafia School! Fab. Ed Norton Professor of Law The First 200 Days: Foreign Policy Law Challenges for the Next Administration" lecture by Harold Koh (Yale University) Friday, October 28, 2016 Max L. Rowe Auditorium, Law Building 12:00 PM-1:00 PM The University of Illinois College of Law presents the 2016 Vacketta-DLA Piper Lecture on the Role of Government and the Law, featuring Harold Koh. "The First 200 Days: Foreign Policy Law Challenges for the Next Administration" As the presidential campaign rages, the foreign policy and international law challenges have been pushed to the background. But after early November they will take center stage. What key foreign policy issues must the next Administration quickly address and what domestic and international legal challenges do they raise? Harold Hongju Koh is Sterling Professor of International Law at Yale Law School. He returned to Yale Law School in January 2013 after serving for nearly four years as the 22nd Legal Adviser of the U.S. Department of State. Professor Koh is one of the country's leading experts in public and private international law, national security law, and human rights. He first began teaching at Yale Law School in 1985 and served as its fifteenth Dean from 2004 until 2009. From 2009 to 2013, he took leave as the Martin R. Flug '55 Professor of International Law to join the State Department as Legal Adviser, service for which he received the Secretary of State's Distinguished Service Award. From 1993 to 2009, he was the Gerard C. & Bernice Latrobe Smith Professor of International Law at Yale Law School, and from 1998 to 2001, he served as U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor. Professor Koh has received fourteen honorary degrees and more than thirty awards for his human rights work, including awards from Columbia Law School and the American Bar Association for his lifetime achievements in international law. He has authored or co-authored eight books, published more than 180 articles, testified regularly before Congress, and litigated numerous cases involving international law issues in both U.S. and international tribunals. He is a Fellow of the American Philosophical Society and the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, an Honorary Fellow of Magdalen College, Oxford, and a member of the Council of the American Law Institute. He holds a B.A. degree from Harvard College and B.A. and M.A. degrees from Oxford University, where he was a Marshall Scholar. He earned his J.D. from Harvard Law School, where he was Developments Editor of the Harvard Law Review. Before coming to Yale, he served as a law clerk for Justice Harry A. Blackmun of the United States Supreme Court and Judge Malcolm Richard Wilkey of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, worked as an attorney in private practice in Washington, and served as an Attorney-Adviser for the Office of Legal Counsel, U.S. Department of Justice. About the Vacketta-DLA Piper Lecture on the Role of Government and the Law This series was made possible through the generosity of Carl Vacketta, '65, and DLA Piper, which has more than 4,200 lawyers in offices in Asia Pacific, Europe, the Middle East, and the United States; and represents more clients in a broader range of geographies and practice disciplines than any other law firm in the world. The Vacketta-DLA Piper Lecture Series is a component of The Marbury Institute, named for William L. Marbury, Jr. (1901-1988), who was instrumental in the development of the firm and devoted his career to public and community service. The Institute serves as DLA Piper's initiative to promote the highest ideals of the legal profession. The event is free and open to the public. A reception will be held in the Peer and Sarah Pedersen Pavilion following the lecture. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Sep 27 11:01:33 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:01:33 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tonight's debate In-Reply-To: <6D2BFDAC-B491-484A-B3B0-0952601E6885@newsfromneptune.com> References: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> <6D2BFDAC-B491-484A-B3B0-0952601E6885@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: 3 Harvard Law Grads Hosannas to Obama Ruler of the World The Black Velvet Glove Covering the White Racist Iron Fist Of U.S. Imperialism and Capitalism Mitt was just the Iron Fist Bush Junior Too But he was only from The Harvard B. School Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of C. G. Estabrook via Peace Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:59 AM To: John W. Cc: peace ; Peace-discuss List Subject: Re: [Peace] Tonight's debate Does it really matter which of them becomes president, John? I think it does - but probably not too much. Would the sum of human happiness have been much altered by a Romney rather than an Obama presidency? I doubt it. —CGE On Sep 27, 2016, at 1:17 AM, John W. > wrote: I quite disagree with your assessment of the first debate, Carl, but does it really matter? John Wason On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace > wrote: Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy papers." Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton camp knows that - and are afraid. [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has refused to say.”] —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ggregg79 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 27 12:12:35 2016 From: ggregg79 at yahoo.com (Gregg Gordon) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tonight's debate In-Reply-To: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> References: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: <1810708284.6830863.1474978355481@mail.yahoo.com> What are his policies that resonate?  The racist ones? On Monday, September 26, 2016 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy papers." Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton camp knows that - and are afraid. [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has refused to say.”] —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Tue Sep 27 12:19:31 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 07:19:31 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tonight's debate In-Reply-To: <1810708284.6830863.1474978355481@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> <1810708284.6830863.1474978355481@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <76705035-D577-4CB4-AA6E-956BC70C090A@newsfromneptune.com> Pro-jobs and anti-war - after 15 years of growing (and accelerating) inequality and war. Trump’s voters see their life-chances as not equal to their parents’ - that’s why they respond to “Make America great again." > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss wrote: > > What are his policies that resonate? The racist ones? > > > On Monday, September 26, 2016 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: > > > Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy papers." > > Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton camp knows that - and are afraid. > > [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has refused to say.”] > > —CGE > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From ggregg79 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 27 12:23:13 2016 From: ggregg79 at yahoo.com (Gregg Gordon) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:23:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tonight's debate In-Reply-To: <76705035-D577-4CB4-AA6E-956BC70C090A@newsfromneptune.com> References: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> <1810708284.6830863.1474978355481@mail.yahoo.com> <76705035-D577-4CB4-AA6E-956BC70C090A@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: <1974323132.6870849.1474978993587@mail.yahoo.com> And why do they not see their life chances as being equal to their parents?  Because the blacks and Hispanics are getting too much. And explain to me how "bombing the shit out of them" is an anti-war message. On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:19 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: Pro-jobs and anti-war - after 15 years of growing (and accelerating) inequality and war. Trump’s voters see their life-chances as not equal to their parents’ - that’s why they respond to “Make America great again."  > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss wrote: > > What are his policies that resonate?  The racist ones? > > > On Monday, September 26, 2016 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: > > > Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy papers." > > Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton camp knows that - and are afraid. > > [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has refused to say.”] > > —CGE > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Tue Sep 27 12:32:06 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 07:32:06 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tonight's debate In-Reply-To: <1974323132.6870849.1474978993587@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> <1810708284.6830863.1474978355481@mail.yahoo.com> <76705035-D577-4CB4-AA6E-956BC70C090A@newsfromneptune.com> <1974323132.6870849.1474978993587@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <85416C2D-F8A7-489F-AEFE-AE523451FCAF@newsfromneptune.com> They reject Clinton’s identity-politics solution (help favored groups) for the immiseration of an economic class. Trump’s call for opposition to ISIS, which (he rightly says) Obama-Clinton war policy in MENA (Libya, Iraq and Syria) promoted. > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:23 AM, Gregg Gordon wrote: > > And why do they not see their life chances as being equal to their parents? Because the blacks and Hispanics are getting too much. > > And explain to me how "bombing the shit out of them" is an anti-war message. > > > On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:19 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > > > Pro-jobs and anti-war - after 15 years of growing (and accelerating) inequality and war. > > Trump’s voters see their life-chances as not equal to their parents’ - that’s why they respond to “Make America great again." > > > > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > > What are his policies that resonate? The racist ones? > > > > > > On Monday, September 26, 2016 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: > > > > > > Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy papers." > > > > Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton camp knows that - and are afraid. > > > > [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has refused to say.”] > > > > —CGE > > _______________________________________________ > > Peace mailing list > > Peace at lists.chambana.net > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Peace-discuss mailing list > > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > From ggregg79 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 27 13:05:26 2016 From: ggregg79 at yahoo.com (Gregg Gordon) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tonight's debate In-Reply-To: <85416C2D-F8A7-489F-AEFE-AE523451FCAF@newsfromneptune.com> References: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> <1810708284.6830863.1474978355481@mail.yahoo.com> <76705035-D577-4CB4-AA6E-956BC70C090A@newsfromneptune.com> <1974323132.6870849.1474978993587@mail.yahoo.com> <85416C2D-F8A7-489F-AEFE-AE523451FCAF@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: <1836539698.6822150.1474981526628@mail.yahoo.com> That doesn't answer my question.   The head of ISIS is a former prisoner at  Abu Ghraib, so if you want to blame any American politicians, I'd suggest Rumsfeld and Cheney. Trump has made it clear that he's pro-torture, so I don't think he's our solution. On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:32 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: They reject Clinton’s identity-politics solution (help favored groups) for the immiseration of an economic class. Trump’s call for opposition to ISIS, which (he rightly says) Obama-Clinton war policy in MENA (Libya, Iraq and Syria) promoted. > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:23 AM, Gregg Gordon wrote: > > And why do they not see their life chances as being equal to their parents?  Because the blacks and Hispanics are getting too much. > > And explain to me how "bombing the shit out of them" is an anti-war message. > > > On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:19 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > > > Pro-jobs and anti-war - after 15 years of growing (and accelerating) inequality and war. > > Trump’s voters see their life-chances as not equal to their parents’ - that’s why they respond to “Make America great again."  > > > > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > > What are his policies that resonate?  The racist ones? > > > > > > On Monday, September 26, 2016 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: > > > > > > Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy papers." > > > > Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton camp knows that - and are afraid. > > > > [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has refused to say.”] > > > > —CGE > > _______________________________________________ > > Peace mailing list > > Peace at lists.chambana.net > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Peace-discuss mailing list > > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Tue Sep 27 13:56:15 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 08:56:15 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tonight's debate In-Reply-To: <1836539698.6822150.1474981526628@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> <1810708284.6830863.1474978355481@mail.yahoo.com> <76705035-D577-4CB4-AA6E-956BC70C090A@newsfromneptune.com> <1974323132.6870849.1474978993587@mail.yahoo.com> <85416C2D-F8A7-489F-AEFE-AE523451FCAF@newsfromneptune.com> <1836539698.6822150.1474981526628@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2949B2D9-8BD4-441C-8602-1B67C187B875@newsfromneptune.com> Trump condemns the Obama-Clinton war policy, and their support for jihadis - as do most Americans. http://harpers.org/archive/2016/01/a-special-relationship/ > On Sep 27, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss wrote: > > That doesn't answer my question. > > The head of ISIS is a former prisoner at Abu Ghraib, so if you want to blame any American politicians, I'd suggest Rumsfeld and Cheney. > > Trump has made it clear that he's pro-torture, so I don't think he's our solution. > > > On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:32 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > > > They reject Clinton’s identity-politics solution (help favored groups) for the immiseration of an economic class. > > Trump’s call for opposition to ISIS, which (he rightly says) Obama-Clinton war policy in MENA (Libya, Iraq and Syria) promoted. > > > > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:23 AM, Gregg Gordon wrote: > > > > And why do they not see their life chances as being equal to their parents? Because the blacks and Hispanics are getting too much. > > > > And explain to me how "bombing the shit out of them" is an anti-war message. > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:19 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > > > > > > Pro-jobs and anti-war - after 15 years of growing (and accelerating) inequality and war. > > > > Trump’s voters see their life-chances as not equal to their parents’ - that’s why they respond to “Make America great again." > > > > > > > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > > > > What are his policies that resonate? The racist ones? > > > > > > > > > On Monday, September 26, 2016 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: > > > > > > > > > Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy papers." > > > > > > Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton camp knows that - and are afraid. > > > > > > [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has refused to say.”] > > > > > > —CGE > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Peace mailing list > > > Peace at lists.chambana.net > > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Peace-discuss mailing list > > > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Sep 27 14:13:34 2016 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:13:34 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tonight's debate In-Reply-To: <1836539698.6822150.1474981526628@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> <1810708284.6830863.1474978355481@mail.yahoo.com> <76705035-D577-4CB4-AA6E-956BC70C090A@newsfromneptune.com> <1974323132.6870849.1474978993587@mail.yahoo.com> <85416C2D-F8A7-489F-AEFE-AE523451FCAF@newsfromneptune.com> <1836539698.6822150.1474981526628@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My comment on the debates last night: I didn’t watch because they only represent the two party imperialist system. This is what the U of I Student Greens were doing, and my support goes to them and the Green Party. [https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-1/c2.0.48.48/p48x48/14117691_605820719598725_7933334291613054965_n.png?oh=6a78a93b01e5f7811a7af7fbf5f4305a&oe=58845902] UIUC Student Greens 13 hrs · We're protesting the debates on the union porch. We have flyers with non-partisan petitions to open the debates and an awesome poster! On Sep 27, 2016, at 06:05, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss > wrote: That doesn't answer my question. The head of ISIS is a former prisoner at Abu Ghraib, so if you want to blame any American politicians, I'd suggest Rumsfeld and Cheney. Trump has made it clear that he's pro-torture, so I don't think he's our solution. On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:32 AM, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: They reject Clinton’s identity-politics solution (help favored groups) for the immiseration of an economic class. Trump’s call for opposition to ISIS, which (he rightly says) Obama-Clinton war policy in MENA (Libya, Iraq and Syria) promoted. > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:23 AM, Gregg Gordon > wrote: > > And why do they not see their life chances as being equal to their parents? Because the blacks and Hispanics are getting too much. > > And explain to me how "bombing the shit out of them" is an anti-war message. > > > On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:19 AM, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: > > > Pro-jobs and anti-war - after 15 years of growing (and accelerating) inequality and war. > > Trump’s voters see their life-chances as not equal to their parents’ - that’s why they respond to “Make America great again." > > > > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss > wrote: > > > > What are his policies that resonate? The racist ones? > > > > > > On Monday, September 26, 2016 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace > wrote: > > > > > > Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy papers." > > > > Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton camp knows that - and are afraid. > > > > [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has refused to say.”] > > > > —CGE > > _______________________________________________ > > Peace mailing list > > Peace at lists.chambana.net > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Peace-discuss mailing list > > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Estabrook wrote: Trump condemns the Obama-Clinton war policy, and their support for jihadis - as do most Americans. http://harpers.org/archive/2016/01/a-special-relationship/ > On Sep 27, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss wrote: > > That doesn't answer my question.  > > The head of ISIS is a former prisoner at  Abu Ghraib, so if you want to blame any American politicians, I'd suggest Rumsfeld and Cheney. > > Trump has made it clear that he's pro-torture, so I don't think he's our solution. > > > On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:32 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > > > They reject Clinton’s identity-politics solution (help favored groups) for the immiseration of an economic class. > > Trump’s call for opposition to ISIS, which (he rightly says) Obama-Clinton war policy in MENA (Libya, Iraq and Syria) promoted. > > > > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:23 AM, Gregg Gordon wrote: > > > > And why do they not see their life chances as being equal to their parents?  Because the blacks and Hispanics are getting too much. > > > > And explain to me how "bombing the shit out of them" is an anti-war message. > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:19 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > > > > > > Pro-jobs and anti-war - after 15 years of growing (and accelerating) inequality and war. > > > > Trump’s voters see their life-chances as not equal to their parents’ - that’s why they respond to “Make America great again."  > > > > > > > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > > > > What are his policies that resonate?  The racist ones? > > > > > > > > > On Monday, September 26, 2016 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: > > > > > > > > > Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy papers." > > > > > > Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton camp knows that - and are afraid. > > > > > > [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has refused to say.”] > > > > > > —CGE > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Peace mailing list > > > Peace at lists.chambana.net > > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Peace-discuss mailing list > > > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Sep 27 14:17:25 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:17:25 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] From the Ed Norton Professor of Law at Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School: Killer Koh October 28 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You all saw Killary's Godfather performance last night during the debate. Well if she is elected ten days later, Killer Koh could become her Secretary of State. He is clearly gunning for it-or Attorney General or the Supreme Court. And that is precisely why the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia Faculty are inviting him out here on October 28-to Campaign for Killary. Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 5:56 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: From the Ed Norton Professor of Law at Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School: Killer Koh October 28 And on October 28, 2016 the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia Faculty will become ACCESSORIES AFTER THE FACT to Killer Koh's war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide against Muslims of Color. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 2:05 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: From the Ed Norton Professor of Law at Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School: Killer Koh October 28 ...join the State Department as Legal Adviser, service for which he received the Secretary of State's Distinguished Service Award.... Yes, the Killary Distinguished Service Award for murdering tens of thousands of Muslims/Arabs/Asians Men, Women and Children of Color all over the World, including US citizens and one American Child--in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen and Somalia for starters. A Real Luca Brazzi Hitman for the US Imperial Power Elite. And before that he did the same for Reagan from 1983 to 1985. Two Global Murder Incs. Way to go Illinois/Yale Mafia School! Fab. Ed Norton Professor of Law The First 200 Days: Foreign Policy Law Challenges for the Next Administration" lecture by Harold Koh (Yale University) Friday, October 28, 2016 Max L. Rowe Auditorium, Law Building 12:00 PM-1:00 PM The University of Illinois College of Law presents the 2016 Vacketta-DLA Piper Lecture on the Role of Government and the Law, featuring Harold Koh. "The First 200 Days: Foreign Policy Law Challenges for the Next Administration" As the presidential campaign rages, the foreign policy and international law challenges have been pushed to the background. But after early November they will take center stage. What key foreign policy issues must the next Administration quickly address and what domestic and international legal challenges do they raise? Harold Hongju Koh is Sterling Professor of International Law at Yale Law School. He returned to Yale Law School in January 2013 after serving for nearly four years as the 22nd Legal Adviser of the U.S. Department of State. Professor Koh is one of the country's leading experts in public and private international law, national security law, and human rights. He first began teaching at Yale Law School in 1985 and served as its fifteenth Dean from 2004 until 2009. From 2009 to 2013, he took leave as the Martin R. Flug '55 Professor of International Law to join the State Department as Legal Adviser, service for which he received the Secretary of State's Distinguished Service Award. From 1993 to 2009, he was the Gerard C. & Bernice Latrobe Smith Professor of International Law at Yale Law School, and from 1998 to 2001, he served as U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor. Professor Koh has received fourteen honorary degrees and more than thirty awards for his human rights work, including awards from Columbia Law School and the American Bar Association for his lifetime achievements in international law. He has authored or co-authored eight books, published more than 180 articles, testified regularly before Congress, and litigated numerous cases involving international law issues in both U.S. and international tribunals. He is a Fellow of the American Philosophical Society and the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, an Honorary Fellow of Magdalen College, Oxford, and a member of the Council of the American Law Institute. He holds a B.A. degree from Harvard College and B.A. and M.A. degrees from Oxford University, where he was a Marshall Scholar. He earned his J.D. from Harvard Law School, where he was Developments Editor of the Harvard Law Review. Before coming to Yale, he served as a law clerk for Justice Harry A. Blackmun of the United States Supreme Court and Judge Malcolm Richard Wilkey of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, worked as an attorney in private practice in Washington, and served as an Attorney-Adviser for the Office of Legal Counsel, U.S. Department of Justice. About the Vacketta-DLA Piper Lecture on the Role of Government and the Law This series was made possible through the generosity of Carl Vacketta, '65, and DLA Piper, which has more than 4,200 lawyers in offices in Asia Pacific, Europe, the Middle East, and the United States; and represents more clients in a broader range of geographies and practice disciplines than any other law firm in the world. The Vacketta-DLA Piper Lecture Series is a component of The Marbury Institute, named for William L. Marbury, Jr. (1901-1988), who was instrumental in the development of the firm and devoted his career to public and community service. The Institute serves as DLA Piper's initiative to promote the highest ideals of the legal profession. The event is free and open to the public. A reception will be held in the Peer and Sarah Pedersen Pavilion following the lecture. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Sep 27 14:57:18 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:57:18 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] From the Ed Norton Professor of Law at Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School: Killer Koh October 28 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And this is the Clinton Campaign Strategy as publicly reported: They are using Surrogates on College Campuses to get out the college vote for Killary: Sanders, Warren, Michelle, Killer Koh, etc. President Killary will owe Killer Koh Big Time with something for all the legal dirty work he has done and continues to do for her. The Illinois/Yale Law Mafia Faculty know this full well and figure that by sucking up to Killer Koh on October 27-28, there will be something in it for them in the Yale Law Mafia Killary Administration. Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:17 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: From the Ed Norton Professor of Law at Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School: Killer Koh October 28 You all saw Killary's Godfather performance last night during the debate. Well if she is elected ten days later, Killer Koh could become her Secretary of State. He is clearly gunning for it-or Attorney General or the Supreme Court. And that is precisely why the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia Faculty are inviting him out here on October 28-to Campaign for Killary. Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 5:56 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: RE: From the Ed Norton Professor of Law at Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School: Killer Koh October 28 And on October 28, 2016 the Illinois/Yale Law Mafia Faculty will become ACCESSORIES AFTER THE FACT to Killer Koh's war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide against Muslims of Color. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 2:05 PM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: From the Ed Norton Professor of Law at Illinois/Yale Law Mafia School: Killer Koh October 28 ...join the State Department as Legal Adviser, service for which he received the Secretary of State's Distinguished Service Award.... Yes, the Killary Distinguished Service Award for murdering tens of thousands of Muslims/Arabs/Asians Men, Women and Children of Color all over the World, including US citizens and one American Child--in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen and Somalia for starters. A Real Luca Brazzi Hitman for the US Imperial Power Elite. And before that he did the same for Reagan from 1983 to 1985. Two Global Murder Incs. Way to go Illinois/Yale Mafia School! Fab. Ed Norton Professor of Law The First 200 Days: Foreign Policy Law Challenges for the Next Administration" lecture by Harold Koh (Yale University) Friday, October 28, 2016 Max L. Rowe Auditorium, Law Building 12:00 PM-1:00 PM The University of Illinois College of Law presents the 2016 Vacketta-DLA Piper Lecture on the Role of Government and the Law, featuring Harold Koh. "The First 200 Days: Foreign Policy Law Challenges for the Next Administration" As the presidential campaign rages, the foreign policy and international law challenges have been pushed to the background. But after early November they will take center stage. What key foreign policy issues must the next Administration quickly address and what domestic and international legal challenges do they raise? Harold Hongju Koh is Sterling Professor of International Law at Yale Law School. He returned to Yale Law School in January 2013 after serving for nearly four years as the 22nd Legal Adviser of the U.S. Department of State. Professor Koh is one of the country's leading experts in public and private international law, national security law, and human rights. He first began teaching at Yale Law School in 1985 and served as its fifteenth Dean from 2004 until 2009. From 2009 to 2013, he took leave as the Martin R. Flug '55 Professor of International Law to join the State Department as Legal Adviser, service for which he received the Secretary of State's Distinguished Service Award. From 1993 to 2009, he was the Gerard C. & Bernice Latrobe Smith Professor of International Law at Yale Law School, and from 1998 to 2001, he served as U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor. Professor Koh has received fourteen honorary degrees and more than thirty awards for his human rights work, including awards from Columbia Law School and the American Bar Association for his lifetime achievements in international law. He has authored or co-authored eight books, published more than 180 articles, testified regularly before Congress, and litigated numerous cases involving international law issues in both U.S. and international tribunals. He is a Fellow of the American Philosophical Society and the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, an Honorary Fellow of Magdalen College, Oxford, and a member of the Council of the American Law Institute. He holds a B.A. degree from Harvard College and B.A. and M.A. degrees from Oxford University, where he was a Marshall Scholar. He earned his J.D. from Harvard Law School, where he was Developments Editor of the Harvard Law Review. Before coming to Yale, he served as a law clerk for Justice Harry A. Blackmun of the United States Supreme Court and Judge Malcolm Richard Wilkey of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, worked as an attorney in private practice in Washington, and served as an Attorney-Adviser for the Office of Legal Counsel, U.S. Department of Justice. About the Vacketta-DLA Piper Lecture on the Role of Government and the Law This series was made possible through the generosity of Carl Vacketta, '65, and DLA Piper, which has more than 4,200 lawyers in offices in Asia Pacific, Europe, the Middle East, and the United States; and represents more clients in a broader range of geographies and practice disciplines than any other law firm in the world. The Vacketta-DLA Piper Lecture Series is a component of The Marbury Institute, named for William L. Marbury, Jr. (1901-1988), who was instrumental in the development of the firm and devoted his career to public and community service. The Institute serves as DLA Piper's initiative to promote the highest ideals of the legal profession. The event is free and open to the public. A reception will be held in the Peer and Sarah Pedersen Pavilion following the lecture. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbw292002 at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 20:38:33 2016 From: jbw292002 at gmail.com (John W.) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 15:38:33 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tonight's debate In-Reply-To: <76705035-D577-4CB4-AA6E-956BC70C090A@newsfromneptune.com> References: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> <1810708284.6830863.1474978355481@mail.yahoo.com> <76705035-D577-4CB4-AA6E-956BC70C090A@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:19 AM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace < peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: Pro-jobs and anti-war - after 15 years of growing (and accelerating) > inequality and war. > Well, for whatever it's worth, Trump is vacuous and mendacious. His trickle-down economics will do nothing to "create jobs". We know that; we've experienced that; we know why it doesn't work. His stop and frisk will constitute a (further) war on minorities. He vacillates on foreign policy. He doesn't want us to police the world, but he thinks we should have left troops in Iraq to prevent the formation of ISIS. The world leaders he respects most are Putin and that murderous goofball with the ridiculous haircut in North Korea. Trump's "policies" aren't even worth discussing, except satirically. He's a narcissistic empty suit. He speaks in third-grade sounds bites which sound good to the basket of deplorables, who wouldn't vote in their own self-interest, let alone the nation's, if it was the only option on the ballot. Anyone who compares Trump to either Hillary or Obama is....well, no need to finish the sentence. > Trump’s voters see their life-chances as not equal to their parents’ - > that’s why they respond to “Make America great again." > An empty sound bite. Not even particularly full of sound and fury. JBW > > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > > > What are his policies that resonate? The racist ones? > > > > > > On Monday, September 26, 2016 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace < > peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > > > > > Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a > fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But > probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was > flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy > papers." > > > > Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from > NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and > Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton > camp knows that - and are afraid. > > > > [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was > a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for > her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on > substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which > Obama has refused to say.”] > > > > —CGE > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at newsfromneptune.com Tue Sep 27 21:12:17 2016 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:12:17 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tonight's debate In-Reply-To: References: <3C9BFC52-61DE-4B38-BE63-DEABE23CC3E9@newsfromneptune.com> <1810708284.6830863.1474978355481@mail.yahoo.com> <76705035-D577-4CB4-AA6E-956BC70C090A@newsfromneptune.com> Message-ID: <89B5F268-9770-4F3E-9423-C8336B99E64B@newsfromneptune.com> If vacuity and mendacity were excised from US politics, there'd be very little left. "Trump's ‘policies' aren't even worth discussing, except satirically”: that’s what Clinton et al. are desperate to get you to believe, because they know his criticisms, however ill-formed, attack the real issues - Clinton's neoliberalism (more inequality) and neoconservatism (more war). So they insist you not take them seriously - it’s too dangerous. Trump’s surge in the polls comes from people’s recognition that that’s so, in spite of corporate media. Cf. what happened in the UK, where the media and ‘informed opinion' were overwhelmingly opposed to Brexit, and it (quite properly) won. Trump may do the same. —CGE > On Sep 27, 2016, at 3:38 PM, John W. wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:19 AM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace > wrote: > > Pro-jobs and anti-war - after 15 years of growing (and accelerating) inequality and war. > > Well, for whatever it's worth, Trump is vacuous and mendacious. > > His trickle-down economics will do nothing to "create jobs". We know that; we've experienced that; we know why it doesn't work. > > His stop and frisk will constitute a (further) war on minorities. > > He vacillates on foreign policy. He doesn't want us to police the world, but he thinks we should have left troops in Iraq to prevent the formation of ISIS. The world leaders he respects most are Putin and that murderous goofball with the ridiculous haircut in North Korea. > > Trump's "policies" aren't even worth discussing, except satirically. He's a narcissistic empty suit. He speaks in third-grade sounds bites which sound good to the basket of deplorables, who wouldn't vote in their own self-interest, let alone the nation's, if it was the only option on the ballot. > > Anyone who compares Trump to either Hillary or Obama is....well, no need to finish the sentence. > > > Trump’s voters see their life-chances as not equal to their parents’ - that’s why they respond to “Make America great again." > > An empty sound bite. Not even particularly full of sound and fury. > > JBW > > > > > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss > wrote: > > > > What are his policies that resonate? The racist ones? > > > > > > On Monday, September 26, 2016 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace > wrote: > > > > > > Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy papers." > > > > Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton camp knows that - and are afraid. > > > > [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has refused to say.”] > > > > —CGE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Unlike msm with the usual talking heads who are paid flunkies by either of the two political parties. On Sep 28, 2016, at 21:01, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss > wrote: Try this—https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/357995-hillary-moscow-mainstream-media/ —mkb _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Sep 29 15:17:10 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 15:17:10 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?Viet_Benedict_Arnold_Dinh_=26_Oc?= =?windows-1252?q?tober_Surprise=3A_Harold_=93Killer=94_Koh_to_Lecture_at_?= =?windows-1252?q?UI_Law_School_in_Election_Week_=7C?= Message-ID: Well look below who got Our Killer Koh Materials, Viet Dinh from Georgetown “Law” who drafted the USA Patriot Act. A Modern Day Benedict Arnold. The Nazis had their law professors too. The worst of the bunch was Carl Schmidt 70 years after World War II The Nazis have won At Illinois Law School Too Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:support at lists.aals.org] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 9:06 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: [SECTNS.aals] - Georgetown Law's Viet Dinh: Modern Day Benedict Arnold! In today’s NYT they have a listing of “Great Immigrants Honorees, 2006-2016,” by the Carnegie Foundation. On the list is “Viet Dinh, Vietnam.” Now teaching at Georgetown “Law” School. This is a Sick Joke and a Demented Fraud. As we all know, Viet Dinh drafted the USA Patriot Act that robbed US AMERICANS of our Constitutional Rights and set up a Police State here in the United States of America. And Dinh is proud of it and brags about it! So here WE AMERICANS take in Dinh and his Family from Vietnam, give them Shelter from a Communist Dictatorship, and then Dinh STEALS OUR REPUBLIC FROM US! May Dinh always live in INFAMY in the History of this Republic! Viet Dinh is a Modern Day Benedict Arnold! Francis A. Boyle July 4, 2016 240th Year of Our Republic What’s Left of It Thanks to Dinh! Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Sep 29 15:34:20 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 15:34:20 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?Viet_Benedict_Arnold_Dinh_=26_Oc?= =?windows-1252?q?tober_Surprise=3A_Harold_=93Killer=94_Koh_to_Lecture_at_?= =?windows-1252?q?UI_Law_School_in_Election_Week_=7C?= Message-ID: I forgot to point out: Dinh is part of the Harvard Law Mafia that came after me there: The Obamas, Sam Our Problem From Hell Power, her Husband Crass S…stain, Kagan, and most of the rest of the Obama Harvard Law Mafia you can read about in Charlie Savage’s Tome Power Wars and my commentary below.So basically if Clinton wins we are going to see a changing of the US Imperial Praetorian Guard from the Harvard Law Mafia to the Yale Law Mafia. Killer Koh is a Charter Member of both US Imperial Legal Mafias.Tweedle-Dumb Versus Tweedle-Dee. The Nazis had their lawyers too 70 years after World War II The Nazis have won At Illinois Law School too Just a Gang of Nazis Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:FBOYLE at law.illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 8:58 AM To: Killeacle Subject: Harvard's Gitmo Kangaroo Law School Copyright 2010 Newstex LLC All Rights Reserved Newstex Web Blogs Copyright 2010 Atlantic Free Press Atlantic Free Press April 2, 2010 Friday 12:27 AM EST LENGTH: 2153 words HEADLINE: Harvard's Gitmo Kangaroo Law School: The School for Torturers BYLINE: Francis A Boyle BODY: Apr. 2, 2010 (Atlantic Free Press delivered by Newstex) -- by Francis A. Boyle Ph.D. Not surprisingly, the January 2007 issue of the American Journal of Imperial Law--otherwise known as the self-styled American Journal of International Law but originally founded a century ago and still operated by U. S. War and State Department legal apparatchiks and their law professorial fellow-travelers-- published an article by Harvard Law School's recently retired Bemis Professor of International Law Detlev Vagts (who only taught me the required course on Legal Accounting) arguing in favor of the Pentagon's Kangaroo Courts System on Guantanamo despite the fact that they have been soundly condemned by every human rights organization and every human rights official and leader in the entire world as well as by the United States Supreme Court itself in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld (2006). I am not going to bother to recite here all the grievous deficiencies of the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts under International Law and U.S. Constitutional Law. But suffice it to say that the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts constitute war crimes under the Laws of War, the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949, and even the U. S. Army's own Field Manual 27-10, The Law of Land Warfare (1956). Field Manual 27-10 was drafted for the Pentagon by my Laws of War teacher Richard R. Baxter, who was generally recognized as the world's leading expert on that subject. That is precisely why I voluntarily chose to study International Law with him and his long-time collaborator Louis B. Sohn, and not with the bean-counter Vagts. For the entire post-World War II generation of international law students at Harvard Law School, Louis Sohn shall always be our real Bemis Professor of International Law and never the False Pretender to that Throne known as Detlev Vagts. Since those student days I have personally appeared pro bono publico in five U.S. military courts-martial proceedings involving warfare that were organized in accordance with the Congress's Uniform Code of Military Justice (U.C.M.J.)--which still does not apply to the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts despite the ruling by the U. S. Supreme Court in Hamdan that the U.C.M.J. should be applied in Guantanamo--on behalf of five U. S. military personnel who each acted as matters of courage, integrity, principle, conscience and at great risk to their own freedom: 1. U. S. Marine Corporal Jeff Paterson, the first U.S. military resister to President Bush Sr.'s genocidal war against Iraq; 2. Army Captain Doctor Yolanda Huet-Vaughn, the highest ranking U. S. commissioned officer to be court-martialed for refusing to participate in President Bush Sr.'s genocidal war against Iraq; 3. Captain Lawrence Rockwood, who was court-martialed by the U. S. Army for trying to stop torture in Haiti after the Clinton administration had illegally invaded that country in 1994; 4. Army Staff Sergeant Camilo Mejia, the first U. S. military resister to be court-martialed for refusing to participate in President Bush Jr.'s war of aggression against Iraq; and 5. Army First Lieutenant Ehren Watada, the first U. S. commissioned officer to be court-martialed for his refusal to participate in President Bush Jr.'s war of aggression against Iraq. As I can attest from my direct personal involvement, each and every one of these five courts-martial under the U.C.M.J. were Stalinist show-trials produced and directed by the Pentagon that predictably and readily degenerated into travesties of justice. These five U.C.M.J. courts-martial involving U.S. warfare each proved correct the old adage attributed to Groucho Marx that military justice is to justice as military music is to music. By comparison, the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts will not even be run in accordance with the U.C.M.J. despite the fact that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Hamdan that they should be. The Marx Brothers are running the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts. Whenever they are up and fully operating the Gitmo Courts will constitute Stalinist Show Trials as well as Kangaroo Courts, and their preliminary proceedings have already proven them to be Travesties of Justice. Even worse yet, fully-functioning Stalinist Gitmo Kangaroo Courts will quickly become conveyor-belts of death for alleged and already tortured terrorist suspects along the lines of the Texas execution chamber operated by George Bush Jr. when he was the "governor" of that state and tortured to death 152 victims by means of lethal injection. Gitmo and/or Gitmo-North in Illinois will become Americas first-ever Nazi-style death camp. But today under the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949, executing persons detained as a result of armed conflict without a fair trial before a regularly constituted court constitutes a grave war crime. To be sure, under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution Harvard Law Professor Vagts has the freedom to advocate war crimes so long as he does not participate in their commission, or incite them, or aid and abet them. But precisely where is that line to be drawn for law professors? In this regard, the Harvard Law School Faculty currently has at least five professors who have advocated torture and war crimes: 1. Vagts himself, who supported abusing the then recently captured President of Iraq Saddam Hussein despite his being publicly acknowledged to be a Prisoner of War by the Bush Jr. administration itself and thus absolutely protected by the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and the Convention against Torture; 2. the infamous Alan Dershowitz, a self-incriminated war criminal in his own right. Dersh publicly acknowledged being a member of a Mossad Committee for approving the murder and assassination of Palestinians, which violates the Geneva Conventions and is thus a grave war crime; 3. the Neo-Con Con Law non-entity known as Richard Parker; 4. Another one of my teachers, Waco Phil Heymann. Previously, Waco Phil had been Deputy to U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, the Butcher of Waco. Reno ordered the Waco Massacre, while Heymann ordered its cover-up and thus earned his well-deserved sobriquet of Waco Phil as an Accessory After The Fact. All those incinerated women and children! 5. The war criminal Jack Goldsmith who while working as a lawyer for the Bush Jr. administration at both the Pentagon and later its Department of In-Justice did much of the legal spade-work designing, justifying and approving the hideous human rights atrocities that the Bush Jr. administration inflicted on everyone after 9/11. Goldsmith and his co-felon accomplice and co-conspirator from the Bush Jr. administration Professor John Yoo--now desecrating Berkeley's Law School where my friend and colleague the late, great Dean Frank Newman had taught Human Rights and International Law--are functionally analogous to Nazi Law Professor Carl Schmitt, who justified every hideous atrocity that Hitler and the Nazis inflicted on anyone, including the Jews. Despite my best efforts to prevent it, the Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans hired the war criminal Goldsmith right out of the Bush Jr. administration knowing full well that he was up to his eyeballs in the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts, torture, war crimes, enforced disappearances, murder, kidnapping, and crimes against humanity, at a minimum. And when Goldsmith's proverbial "smoking-gun" Department of In-Justice Memorandum was published by the Washington Post, then Harvard Law School's Dean Elena Kagan contemptuously boasted in response about how "proud" she was to have hired this notorious war criminal. Previously Kagan had also publicly bragged that the future of International Legal Studies at Harvard Law School would be in the "good hands" of their resident war criminal Goldsmith. How perversely and tragically true! The Neo-Conservative Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans deliberately hired this Neo-Nazi legal architect of the Bush Jr. administration's bogus and nefarious "war against terrorism" because they fully support it together with all its essential accouterments of torture, kangaroo courts, war crimes, murder, kidnapping, enforced disappearances, crimes against humanity, and Nuremburg crimes against peace. By contrast, after the terrorist bombing of the Murrah Federal Building by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols in alleged revenge for the Waco Massacre and Cover-up by Janet Reno and Waco Phil Heymann, to the best of my recollection I do not remember that the Neo-Conservative Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans advocated kangaroo courts, torture, war crimes, and racist profiling for America's population of White Judeo-Christian Males. Yet after 9/11 the fundamentally White Racist Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans have no problem with inflicting torture, kangaroo courts, war crimes, and racist profiling upon Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color, which is exactly why they hired the war criminal Goldsmith to teach such criminal practices to their own law students and thus someday turn them into racist U. S. governmental war criminals in their own right. This is because for the most part the Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans have always been viscerally bigoted and racist against Muslims/Arabs/Asians and other People of Color since at least when I first matriculated there in September of 1971. The Harvard Law School (H.L.S.) Faculty and Deans are no longer fit to educate Lawyers, Members of the Bar, and Officers of the Court. They are a sick joke and a demented fraud. Groucho Marx would have had a field day with them: Harvard is to Law School as Torture is to Law. The Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans torture the Law. Do not send your children or students to Harvard Law School where they will grow up to become racist war criminals! Harvard Law School is a Neo-Con cesspool. As for Harvard Laws Neo-Con Dean Kagan, Harvard Law Graduate President Barack Obama appointed her Solicitor General in his Department of Justice as the third highest ranking official in that department and thus as the proverbial oeTenth Justice for the 9-Justice U.S. Supreme Court. In this capacity Kagan has quarter-backed, supervised, and defended in all U.S. federal courts the Obama administrations continuation of the Bush Jr. administrations hideous atrocities perpetrated against human rights, international law, civil rights, civil liberties, the U.S. Constitution, and Americas Bill of Rights. As payback for her yeoman Neo-Con efforts, Kagan is now reportedly at the top of a very short list for President Obama to nominate to the U.S. Supreme Court upon the expected retirement of Mr. Justice Stevens, the reputed leader of the Courts oeliberal wing. Of course Stevens widespread denomination as a oeliberal just proves how far to the reactionary right the Supreme Court has moved since Stevens was recommended for the Supremes to President Gerald Ford by the arch-reactionary jurist Edward Hirsh Levi, then U.S. Attorney General and previously Dean of the arch-reactionary University of Chicago Law School where Antonin Scalia, Obama, Kagan, and her pet war criminal Goldsmith would all teach. As President of the entire arch-reactionary University of Chicago itself, Levi drove out about 30% of my undergraduate class that in 1968 had unwittingly entered this Birthplace and Warren for the Neo-Con Movement that was founded there by Chicago Professor Leo Strauss, a protégé of Nazi Law Professor Carl Schmitt. Americas Neo-Cons are Neo-Nazis. In an interview she recently gave to National Public Radio, Obamas Neo-Con Solicitor General Kagan went out of her way to proclaim: oeI love the Federalist Society! (Emphasis in the original.) The Federalist Society is a gang of lawyers, law professors, and judges who for the most part are right-wing, racist, bigoted, reactionary, elitist, war-mongering, and totalitarian. For example, almost all of the Bush Jr. administration lawyers responsible for its war criminal torture scandal were and still are members of the Federalist Society. Likewise, five Justices on the current U.S. Supreme Court were/are members of the Federalist Society: Harvard Law Graduate Roberts; Harvard Law Graduate Scalia; Harvard Law Graduate Kennedy; Yale Law Graduate Thomas; and Yale Law Graduate Alito. Thats what an oeelite legal education will do for you. In any event, H.L.S. President Obamas elevation of the H.L.S. Neo-Con Kagan to the Supremes would cement the Federalist Societys Neo-Con stranglehold over the U.S. Supreme Court for the next generation. As for another publicly touted Supremes candidate, the Neo-Con Cass Sunstein of the University of Chicago Law School and Harvard Law School, who is currently working at the White House as Obamas Disinformation and Infiltration Czar, would be just as lethal as Kagan to the American Constitution and Republic if sitting on the U.S. Supreme Court. Time for the Ordinary People of America to get organized against these Neo-Con legal elites! Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _____________________________________________ From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:17 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: Viet Benedict Arnold Dinh & October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | Well look below who got Our Killer Koh Materials, Viet Dinh from Georgetown “Law” who drafted the USA Patriot Act. A Modern Day Benedict Arnold. The Nazis had their law professors too. The worst of the bunch was Carl Schmidt 70 years after World War II The Nazis have won At Illinois Law School Too Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:support at lists.aals.org] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 9:06 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: [SECTNS.aals] - Georgetown Law's Viet Dinh: Modern Day Benedict Arnold! In today’s NYT they have a listing of “Great Immigrants Honorees, 2006-2016,” by the Carnegie Foundation. On the list is “Viet Dinh, Vietnam.” Now teaching at Georgetown “Law” School. This is a Sick Joke and a Demented Fraud. As we all know, Viet Dinh drafted the USA Patriot Act that robbed US AMERICANS of our Constitutional Rights and set up a Police State here in the United States of America. And Dinh is proud of it and brags about it! So here WE AMERICANS take in Dinh and his Family from Vietnam, give them Shelter from a Communist Dictatorship, and then Dinh STEALS OUR REPUBLIC FROM US! May Dinh always live in INFAMY in the History of this Republic! Viet Dinh is a Modern Day Benedict Arnold! Francis A. Boyle July 4, 2016 240th Year of Our Republic What’s Left of It Thanks to Dinh! Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _____________________________________________ From: Viet Dinh [mailto:vdinh at bancroftpllc.com] Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:04 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Not read: October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | Your message To: Subject: October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:04:07 AM (UTC-06:00) Central Time (US & Canada) was deleted without being read on Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:04:02 AM (UTC-06:00) Central Time (US & Canada). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Sep 29 16:24:05 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 16:24:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?Viet_Benedict_Arnold_Dinh_=26_Oc?= =?windows-1252?q?tober_Surprise=3A_Harold_=93Killer=94_Koh_to_Lecture_at_?= =?windows-1252?q?UI_Law_School_in_Election_Week_=7C?= Message-ID: The Nazis had their lawyers too 70 years after World War II The Nazis have won At Illinois Law School too Just a Gang of Nazis Feed: Dissident Voice Posted on: Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:47 PM Author: Francis A. Boyle Subject: Stalingrad We got off the boat at the docks Walking into town I was asked Could I lay some flowers At the War Memorial On the Banks of the Volga? Of course I said yes. Honored and pleased My Dad had fought the Japanese At Saipan, and Tinian and Okinawa The Nazis were not his war But We were Allies In the Noble Cause to Defeat Fascism As I neared the Statue On the Banks of the Volga A young Komsomol Girl appeared All dressed in white carrying a wreath of roses A band was playing Joyful, not somber The Town Elders assembled The sun was shining a most beautiful day On the Banks of the Volga I lay my wreath of roses To the Defenders and Victims at Stalingrad And bowed my head in silent reflection If the Soviets had not held at Stalingrad All Europe today would be speaking German And saluting: Heil Hitler Deutschland, Deutschland But not Uber Alles My Dad was smiling On the Banks of the Volga View article... Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _____________________________________________ From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:34 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Amanda Bass' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'C. G. Estabrook' ; 'Peace Discuss' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Stuart Levy' ; 'Karen Medina' ; Szoke, Ron ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' ; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' ; Readel, Karin ; Estabrook, Carl G ; 'Belden Fields' ; 'jmachota at shout.net' ; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' ; 'Bryan Savage' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Karen Aram' Subject: RE: Viet Benedict Arnold Dinh & October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | I forgot to point out: Dinh is part of the Harvard Law Mafia that came after me there: The Obamas, Sam Our Problem From Hell Power, her Husband Crass S…stain, Kagan, and most of the rest of the Obama Harvard Law Mafia you can read about in Charlie Savage’s Tome Power Wars and my commentary below.So basically if Clinton wins we are going to see a changing of the US Imperial Praetorian Guard from the Harvard Law Mafia to the Yale Law Mafia. Killer Koh is a Charter Member of both US Imperial Legal Mafias.Tweedle-Dumb Versus Tweedle-Dee. The Nazis had their lawyers too 70 years after World War II The Nazis have won At Illinois Law School too Just a Gang of Nazis Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:FBOYLE at law.illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 8:58 AM To: Killeacle > Subject: Harvard's Gitmo Kangaroo Law School Copyright 2010 Newstex LLC All Rights Reserved Newstex Web Blogs Copyright 2010 Atlantic Free Press Atlantic Free Press April 2, 2010 Friday 12:27 AM EST LENGTH: 2153 words HEADLINE: Harvard's Gitmo Kangaroo Law School: The School for Torturers BYLINE: Francis A Boyle BODY: Apr. 2, 2010 (Atlantic Free Press delivered by Newstex) -- by Francis A. Boyle Ph.D. Not surprisingly, the January 2007 issue of the American Journal of Imperial Law--otherwise known as the self-styled American Journal of International Law but originally founded a century ago and still operated by U. S. War and State Department legal apparatchiks and their law professorial fellow-travelers-- published an article by Harvard Law School's recently retired Bemis Professor of International Law Detlev Vagts (who only taught me the required course on Legal Accounting) arguing in favor of the Pentagon's Kangaroo Courts System on Guantanamo despite the fact that they have been soundly condemned by every human rights organization and every human rights official and leader in the entire world as well as by the United States Supreme Court itself in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld (2006). I am not going to bother to recite here all the grievous deficiencies of the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts under International Law and U.S. Constitutional Law. But suffice it to say that the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts constitute war crimes under the Laws of War, the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949, and even the U. S. Army's own Field Manual 27-10, The Law of Land Warfare (1956). Field Manual 27-10 was drafted for the Pentagon by my Laws of War teacher Richard R. Baxter, who was generally recognized as the world's leading expert on that subject. That is precisely why I voluntarily chose to study International Law with him and his long-time collaborator Louis B. Sohn, and not with the bean-counter Vagts. For the entire post-World War II generation of international law students at Harvard Law School, Louis Sohn shall always be our real Bemis Professor of International Law and never the False Pretender to that Throne known as Detlev Vagts. Since those student days I have personally appeared pro bono publico in five U.S. military courts-martial proceedings involving warfare that were organized in accordance with the Congress's Uniform Code of Military Justice (U.C.M.J.)--which still does not apply to the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts despite the ruling by the U. S. Supreme Court in Hamdan that the U.C.M.J. should be applied in Guantanamo--on behalf of five U. S. military personnel who each acted as matters of courage, integrity, principle, conscience and at great risk to their own freedom: 1. U. S. Marine Corporal Jeff Paterson, the first U.S. military resister to President Bush Sr.'s genocidal war against Iraq; 2. Army Captain Doctor Yolanda Huet-Vaughn, the highest ranking U. S. commissioned officer to be court-martialed for refusing to participate in President Bush Sr.'s genocidal war against Iraq; 3. Captain Lawrence Rockwood, who was court-martialed by the U. S. Army for trying to stop torture in Haiti after the Clinton administration had illegally invaded that country in 1994; 4. Army Staff Sergeant Camilo Mejia, the first U. S. military resister to be court-martialed for refusing to participate in President Bush Jr.'s war of aggression against Iraq; and 5. Army First Lieutenant Ehren Watada, the first U. S. commissioned officer to be court-martialed for his refusal to participate in President Bush Jr.'s war of aggression against Iraq. As I can attest from my direct personal involvement, each and every one of these five courts-martial under the U.C.M.J. were Stalinist show-trials produced and directed by the Pentagon that predictably and readily degenerated into travesties of justice. These five U.C.M.J. courts-martial involving U.S. warfare each proved correct the old adage attributed to Groucho Marx that military justice is to justice as military music is to music. By comparison, the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts will not even be run in accordance with the U.C.M.J. despite the fact that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Hamdan that they should be. The Marx Brothers are running the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts. Whenever they are up and fully operating the Gitmo Courts will constitute Stalinist Show Trials as well as Kangaroo Courts, and their preliminary proceedings have already proven them to be Travesties of Justice. Even worse yet, fully-functioning Stalinist Gitmo Kangaroo Courts will quickly become conveyor-belts of death for alleged and already tortured terrorist suspects along the lines of the Texas execution chamber operated by George Bush Jr. when he was the "governor" of that state and tortured to death 152 victims by means of lethal injection. Gitmo and/or Gitmo-North in Illinois will become Americas first-ever Nazi-style death camp. But today under the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949, executing persons detained as a result of armed conflict without a fair trial before a regularly constituted court constitutes a grave war crime. To be sure, under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution Harvard Law Professor Vagts has the freedom to advocate war crimes so long as he does not participate in their commission, or incite them, or aid and abet them. But precisely where is that line to be drawn for law professors? In this regard, the Harvard Law School Faculty currently has at least five professors who have advocated torture and war crimes: 1. Vagts himself, who supported abusing the then recently captured President of Iraq Saddam Hussein despite his being publicly acknowledged to be a Prisoner of War by the Bush Jr. administration itself and thus absolutely protected by the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and the Convention against Torture; 2. the infamous Alan Dershowitz, a self-incriminated war criminal in his own right. Dersh publicly acknowledged being a member of a Mossad Committee for approving the murder and assassination of Palestinians, which violates the Geneva Conventions and is thus a grave war crime; 3. the Neo-Con Con Law non-entity known as Richard Parker; 4. Another one of my teachers, Waco Phil Heymann. Previously, Waco Phil had been Deputy to U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, the Butcher of Waco. Reno ordered the Waco Massacre, while Heymann ordered its cover-up and thus earned his well-deserved sobriquet of Waco Phil as an Accessory After The Fact. All those incinerated women and children! 5. The war criminal Jack Goldsmith who while working as a lawyer for the Bush Jr. administration at both the Pentagon and later its Department of In-Justice did much of the legal spade-work designing, justifying and approving the hideous human rights atrocities that the Bush Jr. administration inflicted on everyone after 9/11. Goldsmith and his co-felon accomplice and co-conspirator from the Bush Jr. administration Professor John Yoo--now desecrating Berkeley's Law School where my friend and colleague the late, great Dean Frank Newman had taught Human Rights and International Law--are functionally analogous to Nazi Law Professor Carl Schmitt, who justified every hideous atrocity that Hitler and the Nazis inflicted on anyone, including the Jews. Despite my best efforts to prevent it, the Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans hired the war criminal Goldsmith right out of the Bush Jr. administration knowing full well that he was up to his eyeballs in the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts, torture, war crimes, enforced disappearances, murder, kidnapping, and crimes against humanity, at a minimum. And when Goldsmith's proverbial "smoking-gun" Department of In-Justice Memorandum was published by the Washington Post, then Harvard Law School's Dean Elena Kagan contemptuously boasted in response about how "proud" she was to have hired this notorious war criminal. Previously Kagan had also publicly bragged that the future of International Legal Studies at Harvard Law School would be in the "good hands" of their resident war criminal Goldsmith. How perversely and tragically true! The Neo-Conservative Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans deliberately hired this Neo-Nazi legal architect of the Bush Jr. administration's bogus and nefarious "war against terrorism" because they fully support it together with all its essential accouterments of torture, kangaroo courts, war crimes, murder, kidnapping, enforced disappearances, crimes against humanity, and Nuremburg crimes against peace. By contrast, after the terrorist bombing of the Murrah Federal Building by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols in alleged revenge for the Waco Massacre and Cover-up by Janet Reno and Waco Phil Heymann, to the best of my recollection I do not remember that the Neo-Conservative Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans advocated kangaroo courts, torture, war crimes, and racist profiling for America's population of White Judeo-Christian Males. Yet after 9/11 the fundamentally White Racist Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans have no problem with inflicting torture, kangaroo courts, war crimes, and racist profiling upon Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color, which is exactly why they hired the war criminal Goldsmith to teach such criminal practices to their own law students and thus someday turn them into racist U. S. governmental war criminals in their own right. This is because for the most part the Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans have always been viscerally bigoted and racist against Muslims/Arabs/Asians and other People of Color since at least when I first matriculated there in September of 1971. The Harvard Law School (H.L.S.) Faculty and Deans are no longer fit to educate Lawyers, Members of the Bar, and Officers of the Court. They are a sick joke and a demented fraud. Groucho Marx would have had a field day with them: Harvard is to Law School as Torture is to Law. The Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans torture the Law. Do not send your children or students to Harvard Law School where they will grow up to become racist war criminals! Harvard Law School is a Neo-Con cesspool. As for Harvard Laws Neo-Con Dean Kagan, Harvard Law Graduate President Barack Obama appointed her Solicitor General in his Department of Justice as the third highest ranking official in that department and thus as the proverbial oeTenth Justice for the 9-Justice U.S. Supreme Court. In this capacity Kagan has quarter-backed, supervised, and defended in all U.S. federal courts the Obama administrations continuation of the Bush Jr. administrations hideous atrocities perpetrated against human rights, international law, civil rights, civil liberties, the U.S. Constitution, and Americas Bill of Rights. As payback for her yeoman Neo-Con efforts, Kagan is now reportedly at the top of a very short list for President Obama to nominate to the U.S. Supreme Court upon the expected retirement of Mr. Justice Stevens, the reputed leader of the Courts oeliberal wing. Of course Stevens widespread denomination as a oeliberal just proves how far to the reactionary right the Supreme Court has moved since Stevens was recommended for the Supremes to President Gerald Ford by the arch-reactionary jurist Edward Hirsh Levi, then U.S. Attorney General and previously Dean of the arch-reactionary University of Chicago Law School where Antonin Scalia, Obama, Kagan, and her pet war criminal Goldsmith would all teach. As President of the entire arch-reactionary University of Chicago itself, Levi drove out about 30% of my undergraduate class that in 1968 had unwittingly entered this Birthplace and Warren for the Neo-Con Movement that was founded there by Chicago Professor Leo Strauss, a protégé of Nazi Law Professor Carl Schmitt. Americas Neo-Cons are Neo-Nazis. In an interview she recently gave to National Public Radio, Obamas Neo-Con Solicitor General Kagan went out of her way to proclaim: oeI love the Federalist Society! (Emphasis in the original.) The Federalist Society is a gang of lawyers, law professors, and judges who for the most part are right-wing, racist, bigoted, reactionary, elitist, war-mongering, and totalitarian. For example, almost all of the Bush Jr. administration lawyers responsible for its war criminal torture scandal were and still are members of the Federalist Society. Likewise, five Justices on the current U.S. Supreme Court were/are members of the Federalist Society: Harvard Law Graduate Roberts; Harvard Law Graduate Scalia; Harvard Law Graduate Kennedy; Yale Law Graduate Thomas; and Yale Law Graduate Alito. Thats what an oeelite legal education will do for you. In any event, H.L.S. President Obamas elevation of the H.L.S. Neo-Con Kagan to the Supremes would cement the Federalist Societys Neo-Con stranglehold over the U.S. Supreme Court for the next generation. As for another publicly touted Supremes candidate, the Neo-Con Cass Sunstein of the University of Chicago Law School and Harvard Law School, who is currently working at the White House as Obamas Disinformation and Infiltration Czar, would be just as lethal as Kagan to the American Constitution and Republic if sitting on the U.S. Supreme Court. Time for the Ordinary People of America to get organized against these Neo-Con legal elites! Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _____________________________________________ From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:17 AM To: 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' >; 'Amanda Bass' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'C. G. Estabrook' >; 'Peace Discuss' >; 'David Johnson' >; 'Stuart Levy' >; 'Karen Medina' >; Szoke, Ron >; 'Mildred O'brien' >; 'peace at lists.chambana.net' >; 'davegreen84 at yahoo.com' >; Readel, Karin >; Estabrook, Carl G >; 'Belden Fields' >; 'jmachota at shout.net' >; 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War Mailing List' >; 'Bryan Savage' >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' >; 'David Swanson' >; 'Karen Aram' > Subject: Viet Benedict Arnold Dinh & October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | Well look below who got Our Killer Koh Materials, Viet Dinh from Georgetown “Law” who drafted the USA Patriot Act. A Modern Day Benedict Arnold. The Nazis had their law professors too. The worst of the bunch was Carl Schmidt 70 years after World War II The Nazis have won At Illinois Law School Too Fab Ed Norton Professor of Law From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:support at lists.aals.org] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 9:06 AM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: [SECTNS.aals] - Georgetown Law's Viet Dinh: Modern Day Benedict Arnold! In today’s NYT they have a listing of “Great Immigrants Honorees, 2006-2016,” by the Carnegie Foundation. On the list is “Viet Dinh, Vietnam.” Now teaching at Georgetown “Law” School. This is a Sick Joke and a Demented Fraud. As we all know, Viet Dinh drafted the USA Patriot Act that robbed US AMERICANS of our Constitutional Rights and set up a Police State here in the United States of America. And Dinh is proud of it and brags about it! So here WE AMERICANS take in Dinh and his Family from Vietnam, give them Shelter from a Communist Dictatorship, and then Dinh STEALS OUR REPUBLIC FROM US! May Dinh always live in INFAMY in the History of this Republic! Viet Dinh is a Modern Day Benedict Arnold! Francis A. Boyle July 4, 2016 240th Year of Our Republic What’s Left of It Thanks to Dinh! Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _____________________________________________ From: Viet Dinh [mailto:vdinh at bancroftpllc.com] Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:04 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Not read: October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | Your message To: Subject: October Surprise: Harold “Killer” Koh to Lecture at UI Law School in Election Week | Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:04:07 AM (UTC-06:00) Central Time (US & Canada) was deleted without being read on Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:04:02 AM (UTC-06:00) Central Time (US & Canada). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Thu Sep 29 23:29:05 2016 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 18:29:05 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: WORLD LABOR HOUR SAT. 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Sep 30 15:07:06 2016 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 15:07:06 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Killer Koh &Illinois/Yale Law Nazis v. 5 Drone Protesters Arrested@ Beale AFB; US Drones Kill 13 Civilians in Afghanistan! 14 Wounded! Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Mary Anne Grady Flores [mailto:gradyflores08 at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 9:06 AM To: to: humanrightsleadershipgroup--ithaca at googlegroups.com ; SAVE S-VE ; CUJustice ; CPNY General New York ; FLP Yahoo Yahoo ; FLP-google ; btd.community at gmail.com; CUSLAR ; Tompkins County Network for Peace and Justice ; discuss at puertoricotopalestine.org; hancockdefendants at googlegroups.com; cjp at lists.cny-pal.org; ithaca-catholic-worker at googlegroups.com; LCA-l at googlesgroup. ; National Catholic Worker List ; October 25 Affinity ; Christian Peacemaker Teams ; nodronesdiscussion at lists.riseup.net; UNAC Subject: 5 Drone Protesters Arrested@ Beale AFB; US Drones Kill 13 Civilians in Afghanistan! 14 Wounded! Please Post Far and Wide! From NO DRONES > Thanks you to Sharon Delgado, Chris Nelson, Toby Blomé, Shirley Osgood, Cathy Webster, and supporter, Barry Binks for your witness! #ENOUGH WAR, #ENOUGH DRONE KILLING, #ENOUGH Apathy On Tuesday, Sept. 27, the very day that activists were at Beale Air Force Base protesting endless wars and illegal drone killing,a U.S. Drone attack killed 13 civilians and wounded 14 others in Aghanistan. Initially the Pentagon claimed that most of those killed were "suspected militants,"but a day later they are admitting to most or all being civilians. (story here) Who will be next? -Read Sharon Delgado's blog of Tuesday's protest and the 5 activists who were arrested yesterday for peace & justice and #ENOUGH DRONE KILLING! -Consider joining us at Beale as often as you can, or at a drone base nearest you. -Consider joining us at Creech AFB this fall or spring, where U.S. Airmen are ordered to execute human beings from the desert of Nevada with armed Predator and Reaper drones: CODEPINK Fall Action at Creech: Nov. 6 - 12 3rd Annual SHUT DOWN CREECH, National Mass Mobilization Against Drone Warfare: April 23 - 29 (FMI: Toby Blome: ratherbenyckeling at comcast.net, 510-215-5974) -Join the Afghan Peace Volunteers #ENOUGH campaign to ABOLISH WAR here. [cid:image001.jpg at 01D21B02.641D6BE0] Arrestees Sharon Delgado, Chris Nelson, Toby Blomé, Shirley Osgood, Cathy Webster, and supporter, Barry Binks. Five Arrests at Beale AFB Today: Part of International Week of Direct Action by Marcus Campaign Nonviolence helped coordinate over 750 public actions for peace, mostly in the USA, in opposition to military and other forces of extreme violence on earth. Hundreds were arrested in these activities, including five elder women at Beale Air Force Base near Marysville, CA. The anti-robotic warfare activists were all from Northern California, as were most of the other pro-justice demonstrators at Beale. Two were from Butte County and two from Nevada County. Other folks including people from the Bay Area and the Sierra Nevada mountains were part of the local coordinated effort which included a camp out at the entrance to Beale AFB. Many were part of the #ENOUGH movement for justice in opposition to US bombings of innocent civilians. Over a dozen people were present at last night’s peace vigil and this morning’s vigil, with only five arrested at 7:30am today: Rev. Sharon Delgado of Nevada City, Shirley O of Grass Valley, Toby Blome of El Cerrito, Cathy W of Chico, and Chris Nelson of Chico. The tone of the demonstrations was somber, with honor for all the dead killed by militarism, including last week's U2 pilot Lt. Col. Ira Stephen Eadie from Beale, and the civilians of Yemen, Libya, Syria, and Pakistan. For more information, contact Toby Blome 510.541.6874 or see the website: http://www.paceebene.org/programs/campaign-nonviolence/campaign-nonviolence-week-of-actions [cid:image002.jpg at 01D21B02.641D6BE0] ENOUGH ALREADY! THESE ARE NOT OUR WARS, THE PEOPLE DEMAND PEACE! Mary Anne Grady Flores Ithaca, NY 14850 1-607-280-8797 Ithaca Catholic Workers / Los Obreros Catolicos de Ithaca "If you think one person can't be effective, you've never been in bed with a mosquito" -War Resister's League "Si usted piensa que una persona no puede ser eficaz, nunca he estado en la cama con un mosquito" Liga de Opositores de Guerra "Protest beyond the law is not a departure from democracy; it is absolutely essential to it" Howard Zinn (1922-2010) "La protesta más allá de la ley no se aparta de la democracia, es absolutamente esencial para que" Howard Zinn (1922-2010) “To be hopeful in bad times is not just foolishly romantic. It is based on the fact that human history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness... What we choose to emphasize in this complex history will determine our lives. If we see only the worst, it destroys our capacity to do something. If we remember those times and places—and there are so many—where people have behaved magnificently, this gives us the energy to act and at least the possibility of sending this spinning top of a world in a different direction...And if we do act, in however small a way, we don't have to wait for some grand utopian future. The future is an infinite succession of presents and to live now as we think human beings should live, in defiance of all that is bad around us, is itself a marvelous victory." -- Howard Zinn www.democracynow.org www.upstatedroneaction.org www.cpt.org www.catholicworker.org Aljazeer a- look it up on line The Guardian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 23125 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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