[Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE has been asked to consider supporting the 13 demands of the BSFR at UIUC
C. G. Estabrook
carl at newsfromneptune.com
Sun Sep 18 14:04:36 UTC 2016
Good morning, Roger. Noble of you to bring enlightenment to the misled masses.
> On Sep 18, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Roger Helbig <rwhelbig at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Chomsky is a fool - so are you
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 5:20 AM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>> Harry—
>>
>> 1.) Who organized BSFR and wrote these demands? What are their politics?
>>
>> 2.) Even the 'full text of demand 13’ falls short of AWARE’s call for the
>> end of US offensive military operations, from the Obama-Clinton
>> administration’s attacks on eight countries (Bush only attacked six) to
>> Obama’s drone assassination program, which Noam Chomsky has called “the most
>> extreme terrorist campaign of modern times,” and the activities - in more
>> than half the countries of the world - of the US ’secret army’, the
>> 70,000-member Special Operations Command; for bringing home all US troops
>> abroad; and for the closing of the 1,000 US military bases in foreign
>> countries.
>>
>> Does BSFR endorse AWARE’s demands?
>>
>> Regards, Carl
>>
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 11:46 PM, Harry Mickalide <mickalideh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Allow me to address two of Carl's concerns.
>>
>> 1) The demands are not just being pursued by a loud minority, but are
>> supported by an extensive list of campus organizations which are listed in
>> Karen's original email. The student activist community as a whole has
>> rallied around the list of demands.
>>
>> 2) We do not have to speculate if these demands critique US war-making
>> because the full text of demand 13, the divestment demand, explicitly calls
>> on the university to divest from "corporations which actively support or
>> enable states currently carrying out human right’s abuses (e.g., Israel,
>> Saudi Arabia, Myanmar), all private prison corporations, and all private
>> military contractors and weapons manufacturers."
>>
>> -Harry
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace
>> <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think we should try to have a serious discussion of this proposal,
>>> online and perhaps in several meetings.
>>>
>>> The central question would seem to be, How does it comport with AWARE's
>>> antiwar remit?
>>>
>>> But there are obviously other important questions, e.g., What do we know
>>> of ‘Black Students for Revolution’?
>>> A severe critic might suggest that a similar list could be circulated by
>>> ‘Some Students for Self-Promotion.’
>>> I’m old enough to remember where the loudest voices for ‘militant action’
>>> came from during the Vietnam war: they were provocateurs.
>>>
>>> The list certainly raises (once again) questions of the nature and
>>> provenance of identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton campaign).
>>> See Adolph Reed's mordant description (expressed I admit in somewhat
>>> clotted prose):
>>>
>>> "[Identity] politics is not an alternative to class politics; it
>>> is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism. It is
>>> the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in
>>> which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature.
>>> "An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the
>>> critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto
>>> equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into
>>> groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do.
>>> As I have argued, following Walter Michaels and others, within that moral
>>> economy a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90% of the
>>> resources could be just, provided that roughly 12% of the 1% were black, 12%
>>> were Latino, 50% were women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were
>>> LGBT people.
>>> "It would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that expresses
>>> more unambiguously the social position of people who consider themselves
>>> candidates for inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions in
>>> service to, the ruling class”
>>> <http://bennorton.com/adolph-reed-identity-politics-is-neoliberalism/>.
>>>
>>> It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US war-making can arise
>>> from identity politics. (Not enough blacks and women among Special Forces
>>> killers?)
>>> It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic and foreign class
>>> conflicts; given that we’ve killed more than 20 million in 37 nations since
>>> WWII, we should be clear about causes.
>>>
>>> <https://www.popularresistance.org/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-in-37-nations-since-wwii/>.
>>>
>>> AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage awareness of how and
>>> why the US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world
>>> today.
>>> And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the devil, as Hotspur
>>> says.
>>>
>>> I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands contributes to that effort.
>>> —CGE
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Karen Medina via Peace
>>>>> <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Peace-Discuss,
>>>>>
>>>>> At the next AWARE meeting*, I will present the 13 demands of the "Black
>>>>> Students for Revolution" at UIUC for consideration. BSFRUIUC has asked if
>>>>> AWARE will sign on to be a community supporter/endorser of the demands.
>>>>> http://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands
>>>>> *(I might miss this upcoming meeting, but the next week's meeting then)
>>>>> -- karen medina
>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>> 1. WE DEMAND that UIUC immediately and permanently halt tuition hikes.
>>>>> 2.
>>>>> WE DEMAND that the racial and economic demographics of UIUC students,
>>>>> faculty and staff reflect the racial and economic demographics of Illinois
>>>>> by 2032.
>>>>> 3.
>>>>> WE DEMAND that all on-campus sexual predators, especially those
>>>>> affiliated with the Greek Life system, face severe penalties for all forms
>>>>> of sexual violence.
>>>>> 4. WE DEMAND that UIUC makes a permanent commitment not to consolidate
>>>>> or combine the LGBT Resource Center and Women’s Resource Center in addition
>>>>> to the continued autonomy of all cultural centers and ethnic studies
>>>>> programs.
>>>>> 5. WE DEMAND that UIUC collect and track gender and sexuality based
>>>>> demographics as an official population.
>>>>> 6. WE DEMAND that queer and trans students be given priority for all
>>>>> university sponsored all-gendered housing options and that genderqueer and
>>>>> trans students be offered these spaces at a discounted rate corresponding
>>>>> with the less expensive standard housing option.
>>>>> 7. WE DEMAND that UIUC hire a truly independent consultant to review
>>>>> the salaries of all University employees in order to detect and correct
>>>>> gender and race-based pay inequality
>>>>> 8. WE DEMAND a living wage for all University employees and
>>>>> subcontracted workers and that this rate be indexed for inflation.
>>>>> 9. WE DEMAND all employees of UIUC have access to at least six months
>>>>> of paid parental leave following the birth or adoption of a child.
>>>>> 10. WE DEMAND that UIUC cease and desist job outsourcing and hire
>>>>> directly from underrepresented populations in Urbana-Champaign and the
>>>>> surrounding communities.
>>>>> 11. WE DEMAND that UIUC work towards bridging the gap between this
>>>>> campus and the surrounding Black community of Urbana-Champaign.
>>>>> 12. WE DEMAND that UIUC implement fair-chance admissions and employment
>>>>> policies for those with past conviction records (Ban the Box).
>>>>> 13. WE DEMAND that UIUC release an annual, easily-accessible, and
>>>>> comprehensive report of all its investments and move to divest from socially
>>>>> and politically negligent corporations.
>>>>>
>>>>> List of Endorsing Local Organizations
>>>>>
>>>>> • Black Students for Revolution
>>>>>
>>>>> • SJP - Students for Justice in Palestine
>>>>>
>>>>> • Planner’s Network
>>>>>
>>>>> • MEChA - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan
>>>>>
>>>>> • AASSCC - African American Studies Scholars Cultural Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> • CUTES - Campus Union for Trans Equality and Support
>>>>>
>>>>> • UMMA - United Muslim & Minority Advocates
>>>>>
>>>>> • GEO - Graduate Employees Organization
>>>>>
>>>>> • MSU - Mixed Student Union
>>>>>
>>>>> • Women of Pride
>>>>>
>>>>> • BLM-CU (community) - Black Lives Matter - Champaign Urbana
>>>>>
>>>>> • SACC - Students for an Arab Cultural Center at Illinois
>>>>>
>>>>> • The Gharbzadegi Art Collective
>>>>>
>>>>> • Allies and Accomplices for Racial Justice
>>>>>
>>>>> • Men of Impact*
>>>>>
>>>>> • Students Against Sexual Assault
>>>>>
>>>>> • My Sister’s Keeper*
>>>>>
>>>>> • STEM Boycotts the War Machine
>>>>>
>>>>> • NAISO - Native American and Indigenous Student Organization
>>>>>
>>>>> • SECS - Students for Environmental ConcernS
>>>>>
>>>>> • WORD - Writers Organizing Realistic Dialect
>>>>>
>>>>> • ASA - Arab Student Association
>>>>>
>>>>> • UIUC Beyond Coal
>>>>>
>>>>> • Black Rose/Rosa Negra Central Illinois Chapter
>>>>>
>>>>>
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