[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tonight's debate

Boyle, Francis A fboyle at illinois.edu
Tue Sep 27 11:01:33 UTC 2016


3 Harvard Law Grads

Hosannas to Obama
Ruler of the World
The Black Velvet Glove
Covering the White Racist Iron Fist
Of U.S. Imperialism and Capitalism

Mitt was just the Iron Fist
Bush Junior Too
But he was only from
The Harvard B. School

Fab




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From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of C. G. Estabrook via Peace
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:59 AM
To: John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com>
Cc: peace <peace at lists.chambana.net>; Peace-discuss List <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Subject: Re: [Peace] Tonight's debate

Does it really matter which of them becomes president, John? I think it does - but probably not too much.

Would the sum of human happiness have been much altered by a Romney rather than an Obama presidency? I doubt it.

—CGE


On Sep 27, 2016, at 1:17 AM, John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com<mailto:jbw292002 at gmail.com>> wrote:


I quite disagree with your assessment of the first debate, Carl, but does it really matter?

John Wason



On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy papers."

Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton camp knows that - and are afraid.

[Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has refused to say.”]

—CGE
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