[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Tonight's debate

[C. G. Estabrook]

If vacuity and mendacity were excised from US politics, there'd be very little left.

"Trump's ‘policies' aren't even worth discussing, except satirically”: that’s what Clinton et al. are desperate to get you to believe, because they know his criticisms, however ill-formed, attack the real issues - Clinton's neoliberalism (more inequality) and neoconservatism (more war). So they insist you not take them seriously - it’s too dangerous.

Trump’s surge in the polls comes from people’s recognition that that’s so, in spite of corporate media. Cf. what happened in the UK, where the media and ‘informed opinion' were overwhelmingly opposed to Brexit, and it (quite properly) won. Trump may do the same.  

—CGE

> On Sep 27, 2016, at 3:38 PM, John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:19 AM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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> Pro-jobs and anti-war - after 15 years of growing (and accelerating) inequality and war.
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> Well, for whatever it's worth, Trump is vacuous and mendacious.  
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> His trickle-down economics will do nothing to "create jobs".  We know that; we've experienced that; we know why it doesn't work.  
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> His stop and frisk will constitute a (further) war on minorities.
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> He vacillates on foreign policy.  He doesn't want us to police the world, but he thinks we should have left troops in Iraq to prevent the formation of ISIS.  The world leaders he respects most are Putin and that murderous goofball with the ridiculous haircut in North Korea.
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> Trump's "policies" aren't even worth discussing, except satirically.  He's a narcissistic empty suit.  He speaks in third-grade sounds bites which sound good to the basket of deplorables, who wouldn't vote in their own self-interest, let alone the nation's, if it was the only option on the ballot.
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> Anyone who compares Trump to either Hillary or Obama is....well, no need to finish the sentence.
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> Trump’s voters see their life-chances as not equal to their parents’ - that’s why they respond to “Make America great again."
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> An empty sound bite.  Not even particularly full of sound and fury.
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> JBW
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> > On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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> > What are his policies that resonate?  The racist ones?
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> > On Monday, September 26, 2016 11:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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> > Style: I think J. St. Clair of CounterPunch had it right: "If this was a fight, Trump probably would have won on points as the aggressor. But probably missed twice as many punches as he landed. Hillary was flat-footed, defending failed policies, offering little more than policy papers."
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> > Substance: Trump attacked Clinton's neoliberalism (trade pacts from NAFTA to TPP) and her neoconservatism (wars in MENA from Iraq to Libya and Syria). His are the policies that resonate with most Americans; the Clinton camp knows that - and are afraid.
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> > [Friends’ comments on style: “Trump won the early rounds and then it was a pathetic draw.” "My favorite moment was when she made a sales pitch for her book [which is not doing well at all].”] [Friends’ comment on substance: “Trump said that he was opposed to nuclear first strike, which Obama has refused to say.”]
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> > —CGE

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