[Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 166, Issue 326

C G Estabrook cgestabrook at gmail.com
Fri Dec 1 00:27:44 UTC 2017


A good account of what happened at Michigan: <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedman/michigan-students-pass-call-probe-israel-investments>.


> On Nov 30, 2017, at 6:19 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> 
> Your reply represents exactly what I'm talking about.
> There is a huge difference between "Of course we support BDS, we’ve spoken on this many times" and UofM's actual accomplishment. In the article it states" 
> "Authored by Students Allied for Freedom and Equality (SAFE), the resolution took more than a decade to pass, after a sustained effort by Palestinian students and a wide range of allies across campus and around the country.
> The coalition supporting the passage of the resolution included over 40 different student organizations, 20 members of University of Michigan faculty, and large numbers of students and alumni.
> There is nothing even close to this effort at the UofI....because of the Jewish power structure that raises its head (like the Salaita affair) and anything else that goes against their grain. AWARE is under their thumb.
> As far as 9/11 and the Holocaust goes...it's the same thing. I will debate both these issues anytime or anyplace, but it is you who refuse to debate me. You hide behind the considerable power and effectiveness of ad hominem attacks to stifle any sort of scientific and objective dialectic on those issues. I'll have to admit it works and I've given up on bringing up these issues locally. But Internationally, the debate is alive and well and the Jewish community is reeling from the dramatic increase in 'antiSemitic vitriol.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:27 PM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Of course we support BDS, we’ve spoken on this many times. Do you know the difference between opposing Israeli foreign policy and anti-semitism?  
> 
> So there we have it, Carl, the American people have been drinking the kool aide so long, we have to be very clear and precise, and even then they won’t comprehend what we’re saying if we muddle our messages with “its not Trumps fault, blame the other guys, but blame Obama for everything. 
> 
> I refuse to look like a Republican. 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 15:20, Stephen Francis <stephenf1113 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Would AWARE support this UofMichigan effort: .... NO! no way.... you'd find some way to dodge it.
>> University of Michigan Students Pass Israel Divestment Resolution, Signaling Momentum Among Larger Schools
>> http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/42739-university-michigan-students-pass-israel-divestment-resolution-signaling-momentum-among-larger-schools
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:12 PM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Our “favorite” anti-semite is back folks. 
>> 
>> Good grief, Stephen, AWARE is not a pro Israeli fake antiwar organization, we take a lot of grief for criticizing Israel, what drugs are you on? Usually its just your rant blaming Jews for 9/11 or denying the Holocaust ever happened. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 14:47, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Professor Boyle,
>>> Your post on Wexler that included the following sentence must have crossed the 'anti-Semitic' line and consequently got no response.... predictably.
>>> "As most of us know, the so-called Foundation is a Gang of Die-hard NeoCon Zionist Warmongers, Bigots and Racists against Palestinians/Arabs/Persians/Asians/Muslims of Color. Right now the Foundation is warmongering to get us into a war against Iran on behalf of Israel."
>>> AWARE is a basically a pro-Israel fake antiwar organization that fails (by design) to get to the real issues... that you so eloquently pointed out above. It is utterly taboo to give any serious thought or worlds to the real crimes of the Israeli government and its Jewish supremacists.
>>> A story like the one below would also receive no traction:
>>> ANALYSIS: Will Netanyahu risk exposing one of Israel’s secrets? 
>>> 
>>> ANALYSIS: Will Netanyahu risk exposing one of Israel’s secrets?
>>> New law would tell Palestinian citizens in Israel that they are not equal, say experts
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:36 AM, "peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net" <peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>>>   1. Re: NG: UILAWPROF Wexler Complicit in Israeli War Crimes,
>>>       Crimes against Humanity & Genocide against Palestinians.
>>>       (Boyle, Francis A)
>>>   2. Re: NG: UILAWPROF Wexler Complicit in Israeli War Crimes,
>>>       Crimes against Humanity & Genocide against Palestinians.
>>>       (Boyle, Francis A)
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 16:33:57 +0000
>>> From: "Boyle, Francis A" <fboyle at illinois.edu>
>>> To: 'David Green' <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>, "Miller, Joseph Thomas"
>>>     <jtmiller at illinois.edu>, "'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com'"
>>>     <sherwoodross10 at gmail.com>, "'peace-discuss at anti-war.net'"
>>>     <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>, "'C. G. ESTABROOK'"
>>>     <carl at newsfromneptune.com>, "'a-fields at uiuc.edu'" <a-fields at uiuc.edu>,
>>>     'Joe Lauria' <joelauria at gmail.com>,
>>>     "'Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net'"
>>>     <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>,
>>>     "'peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net'"
>>>     <peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net>, "Szoke, Ron"
>>>     <r-szoke at illinois.edu>, 'Arlene Hickory' <a23h23 at yahoo.com>, 'Karen
>>>     Aram' <karenaram at hotmail.com>, "'abass10 at gmail.com'"
>>>     <abass10 at gmail.com>, "'mickalideh at gmail.com'" <mickalideh at gmail.com>,
>>>     'Lina Thorne' <lina at worldcantwait.net>, "'chicago at worldcantwait.net'"
>>>     <chicago at worldcantwait.net>, 'Jay' <futureup2us at gmail.com>, 'David
>>>     Johnson' <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>, 'Mildred O'brien'
>>>     <moboct1 at aim.com>, "'C G Estabrook'" <cgestabrook at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NG: UILAWPROF Wexler Complicit in Israeli
>>>     War Crimes, Crimes against Humanity & Genocide against Palestinians.
>>> Message-ID:
>>>     <A577E3DDF9C35E4DA9C0B5E0346A12F03306578D at CITESMBX4.ad.uillinois.edu>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> "...particularly to the drone assassinations, "the most extreme
>>> terrorist campaign of modern times" - which have killed more than 5,000 people,
>>> including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children." Chomsky {now 10,000+ people}
>>> 
>>> And notice of course that the die-hard bigots, racists and warmongers against Muslims/Arabs/Palestinians/Persians/Asians of Color  at the College of Law bragged about and touted Wexler's complicity with Israel's war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide against the Palestinians. QED. fab
>>> 
>>> Francis A. Boyle
>>> Law Building
>>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
>>> Champaign, IL 61820 USA
>>> 217-333-7954 (phone)
>>> 217-244-1478 (fax)
>>> (personal comments only)
>>> 
>>> From: Boyle, Francis A
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:04 AM
>>> To: 'David Green' <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>; Miller, Joseph Thomas <jtmiller at illinois.edu>; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' <sherwoodross10 at gmail.com>; 'peace-discuss at anti-war.net' <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; 'C. G. ESTABROOK' <carl at newsfromneptune.com>; 'a-fields at uiuc.edu' <a-fields at uiuc.edu>; 'Joe Lauria' <joelauria at gmail.com>; 'Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net' <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>; 'peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net' <peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net>; Szoke, Ron <r-szoke at illinois.edu>; 'Arlene Hickory' <a23h23 at yahoo.com>; 'Karen Aram' <karenaram at hotmail.com>; 'abass10 at gmail.com' <abass10 at gmail.com>; 'mickalideh at gmail.com' <mickalideh at gmail.com>; 'Lina Thorne' <lina at worldcantwait.net>; 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' <chicago at worldcantwait.net>; 'Jay' <futureup2us at gmail.com>; 'David Johnson' <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>; 'Mildred O'brien' <moboct1 at aim.com>; 'C G Estabrook' <cgestabrook at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: NG: UILAWPROF Wexler Complicit in Israeli War Crimes, Crimes against Humanity & Genocide against Palestinians.
>>> 
>>> "...particularly to the drone assassinations, "the most extreme
>>> terrorist campaign of modern times" - which have killed more than 5,000 people,
>>> including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children." Chomsky {now 10,000+ people}
>>> 
>>> Today's News Gazette has a front page story where UILawProf Wexler is pontificating about sexual harassment. Really? Notice below. Wexler had  the UILawSchool brag about the fact that she is an "Academic Fellow" of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. As most of us know, the so-called Foundation is a Gang of Die-hard NeoCon Zionist Warmongers, Bigots and Racists against Palestinians/Arabs/Persians/Asians/Muslims of Color. Right now the Foundation is warmongering to get us into a war against Iran on behalf of Israel. Notice Wexler brags about the fact that she spent ten days "exploring" how Israel inflicts war crimes, crimes against humanity and outright genocide against the Palestinians, including and especially Palestinian Women and Children. And Wexler calls this to be an "honor". Basically Wexler is complicit in Israel's war crimes, crimes against humanity and outright genocide against the Palestinians. Article III (e) of the 1948 Genocide Convention explicitly criminalizes "Complicity in genocide." And Wexler is typical of the die-hard bigots, racists and warmongers against Muslims/Arabs/Palestinians/Asians of Color on the College of Law Faculty who brought out Killer Koh here to give his specially endowed lecture on being a Role Model in Excellence for Lawyers in Government Service. Not one member of the UI Law Faculty  Gang of Die-hard Bigots, Racists and Warmongers against  Muslims/Arabs/Palestinians/Asians of Color supported us in our Protest against Killer Koh. Q.E.D.
>>> fab
>>> 
>>> Hey! Hey!
>>> Wexler Say!
>>> How many women!
>>> Did you kill today!
>>> In Palestine!
>>> 
>>> Hey! Hey!
>>> Wexler say!
>>> How many kids!
>>> Did you kill today!
>>> In Palestine!
>>> 
>>> Hey! Hey!
>>> Wexler Say!
>>> How many Dads!
>>> Did you kill today!
>>> In Palestine!
>>> Professor Wexler Selected as Academic Fellow of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
>>> Friday, March 09, 2012
>>> Lesley Wexler, the Thomas M. Mengler Faculty Scholar, has been selected as an academic fellow of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. As part of the honor, Professor Wexler will be participating in a 10-day program in Israel with other leading U.S. academics exploring how the country combats terrorism.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Francis A. Boyle
>>> Law Building
>>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
>>> Champaign, IL 61820 USA
>>> 217-333-7954 (phone)
>>> 217-244-1478 (fax)
>>> (personal comments only)
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 16:33:57 +0000
>>> From: "Boyle, Francis A" <fboyle at illinois.edu>
>>> To: 'David Green' <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>, "Miller, Joseph Thomas"
>>>     <jtmiller at illinois.edu>, "'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com'"
>>>     <sherwoodross10 at gmail.com>, "'peace-discuss at anti-war.net'"
>>>     <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>, "'C. G. ESTABROOK'"
>>>     <carl at newsfromneptune.com>, "'a-fields at uiuc.edu'" <a-fields at uiuc.edu>,
>>>     'Joe Lauria' <joelauria at gmail.com>,
>>>     "'Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net'"
>>>     <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>,
>>>     "'peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net'"
>>>     <peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net>, "Szoke, Ron"
>>>     <r-szoke at illinois.edu>, 'Arlene Hickory' <a23h23 at yahoo.com>, 'Karen
>>>     Aram' <karenaram at hotmail.com>, "'abass10 at gmail.com'"
>>>     <abass10 at gmail.com>, "'mickalideh at gmail.com'" <mickalideh at gmail.com>,
>>>     'Lina Thorne' <lina at worldcantwait.net>, "'chicago at worldcantwait.net'"
>>>     <chicago at worldcantwait.net>, 'Jay' <futureup2us at gmail.com>, 'David
>>>     Johnson' <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>, 'Mildred O'brien'
>>>     <moboct1 at aim.com>, "'C G Estabrook'" <cgestabrook at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NG: UILAWPROF Wexler Complicit in Israeli
>>>     War Crimes, Crimes against Humanity & Genocide against Palestinians.
>>> Message-ID:
>>>     <A577E3DDF9C35E4DA9C0B5E0346A12F03306578D at CITESMBX4.ad.uillinois.edu>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> "...particularly to the drone assassinations, "the most extreme
>>> terrorist campaign of modern times" - which have killed more than 5,000 people,
>>> including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children." Chomsky {now 10,000+ people}
>>> 
>>> And notice of course that the die-hard bigots, racists and warmongers against Muslims/Arabs/Palestinians/Persians/Asians of Color  at the College of Law bragged about and touted Wexler's complicity with Israel's war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide against the Palestinians. QED. fab
>>> 
>>> Francis A. Boyle
>>> Law Building
>>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
>>> Champaign, IL 61820 USA
>>> 217-333-7954 (phone)
>>> 217-244-1478 (fax)
>>> (personal comments only)
>>> 
>>> From: Boyle, Francis A
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:04 AM
>>> To: 'David Green' <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>; Miller, Joseph Thomas <jtmiller at illinois.edu>; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' <sherwoodross10 at gmail.com>; 'peace-discuss at anti-war.net' <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; 'C. G. ESTABROOK' <carl at newsfromneptune.com>; 'a-fields at uiuc.edu' <a-fields at uiuc.edu>; 'Joe Lauria' <joelauria at gmail.com>; 'Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net' <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>; 'peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net' <peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net>; Szoke, Ron <r-szoke at illinois.edu>; 'Arlene Hickory' <a23h23 at yahoo.com>; 'Karen Aram' <karenaram at hotmail.com>; 'abass10 at gmail.com' <abass10 at gmail.com>; 'mickalideh at gmail.com' <mickalideh at gmail.com>; 'Lina Thorne' <lina at worldcantwait.net>; 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' <chicago at worldcantwait.net>; 'Jay' <futureup2us at gmail.com>; 'David Johnson' <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>; 'Mildred O'brien' <moboct1 at aim.com>; 'C G Estabrook' <cgestabrook at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: NG: UILAWPROF Wexler Complicit in Israeli War Crimes, Crimes against Humanity & Genocide against Palestinians.
>>> 
>>> "...particularly to the drone assassinations, "the most extreme
>>> terrorist campaign of modern times" - which have killed more than 5,000 people,
>>> including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children." Chomsky {now 10,000+ people}
>>> 
>>> Today's News Gazette has a front page story where UILawProf Wexler is pontificating about sexual harassment. Really? Notice below. Wexler had  the UILawSchool brag about the fact that she is an "Academic Fellow" of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. As most of us know, the so-called Foundation is a Gang of Die-hard NeoCon Zionist Warmongers, Bigots and Racists against Palestinians/Arabs/Persians/Asians/Muslims of Color. Right now the Foundation is warmongering to get us into a war against Iran on behalf of Israel. Notice Wexler brags about the fact that she spent ten days "exploring" how Israel inflicts war crimes, crimes against humanity and outright genocide against the Palestinians, including and especially Palestinian Women and Children. And Wexler calls this to be an "honor". Basically Wexler is complicit in Israel's war crimes, crimes against humanity and outright genocide against the Palestinians. Article III (e) of the 1948 Genocide Convention explicitly criminalizes "Complicity in genocide." And Wexler is typical of the die-hard bigots, racists and warmongers against Muslims/Arabs/Palestinians/Asians of Color on the College of Law Faculty who brought out Killer Koh here to give his specially endowed lecture on being a Role Model in Excellence for Lawyers in Government Service. Not one member of the UI Law Faculty  Gang of Die-hard Bigots, Racists and Warmongers against  Muslims/Arabs/Palestinians/Asians of Color supported us in our Protest against Killer Koh. Q.E.D.
>>> fab
>>> 
>>> Hey! Hey!
>>> Wexler Say!
>>> How many women!
>>> Did you kill today!
>>> In Palestine!
>>> 
>>> Hey! Hey!
>>> Wexler say!
>>> How many kids!
>>> Did you kill today!
>>> In Palestine!
>>> 
>>> Hey! Hey!
>>> Wexler Say!
>>> How many Dads!
>>> Did you kill today!
>>> In Palestine!
>>> Professor Wexler Selected as Academic Fellow of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
>>> Friday, March 09, 2012
>>> Lesley Wexler, the Thomas M. Mengler Faculty Scholar, has been selected as an academic fellow of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. As part of the honor, Professor Wexler will be participating in a 10-day program in Israel with other leading U.S. academics exploring how the country combats terrorism.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Francis A. Boyle
>>> Law Building
>>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
>>> Champaign, IL 61820 USA
>>> 217-333-7954 (phone)
>>> 217-244-1478 (fax)
>>> (personal comments only)
>>> 
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