[Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 167, Issue 34

Sat Dec 2 17:04:35 UTC 2017

Ask Professor Falk. He is a leader of the Lawyers for 9/11 Truth Movement. Fab.

Francis A. Boyle
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From: Stephen Francis [mailto:stephenf1113 at yahoo.com]
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Subject: Re: Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 167, Issue 34

I'm talking about a formal academic Review of Hulsey's work...if that's the correct way to phrase it?

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:55 AM, "Boyle, Francis A" <fboyle at illinois.edu<mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu>> wrote:

There is a lot of literature out there you can read on this if you want to. Try David Ray Griffin with an Introduction by Professor Richard Falk. Fab.

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Professor Boyle,
Do you have any thoughts or inclination to review Professor Hulsey's work?
"WTC 7 Did Not Collapse from Fire" - Dr. Leroy Hulsey, UAF, Sept. 6, 2017<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYV33LKDY8k&t=2s>

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"WTC 7 Did Not Collapse from Fire" - Dr. Leroy Hulsey, UAF, Sept....
On September 6, 2017, from the University of Alaska Fairbanks' Schaibel Auditorium, Dr. Leroy Hulsey present...

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  1. Re: anti-Semitism (Boyle, Francis A)

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Well without going back to look anything up, and off the top of my head,  if I remember correctly from my World History Courses at the University of Chicago from the late, great William Hardy McNeill, monotheism first appeared in the Middle East in Egypt around the 18th Century B.C. under Pharaoh Amenhotep IV, who worshipped the Sun at the Only God and renamed himself Ikhnaton, Son of Aton, the Sun God. He then moved Egypt’s capital to Tel El Amarna from Memphis and set it up as a Holy City dedicated to the Worship of Aton, the Sun God. Fab.
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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] anti-Semitism

to Mr. Green... and Professor Boyle below....

Can you give me a credible reason to change my views on monotheism and the destruction of the Temples in this post of mine:
I've become an avid researcher of Jewish history because of all the accusations of being racist and anti Semitic. I want to understand my claims...and it's been fascinating and unfortunately only deepened my distrust and dislike of the whole Jewish experience.

There is credible evidence that the sacred claim of Jewish origination of monotheism is just plain old plagiarism...see Babylonians, Zoroastrians... Sumeria...etc...Jews may have popularized it...but was in existence long before Jews say they invented it.... all contributing to the long-term vitriol against Jews....ex: Martin Luther's 'The Jews and Their Lies' book...etc.
As far as the destruction of the first and second Temples, they were the product of normal political machinations of a supremacist mindset that would not succumb to Roman power. The Jews miscalculated and overstepped their abilities in confronting or attacking Rome and were crushed basically in both instances...all in generalities...they were then totally expelled from Palestine because of mistrust, fear, and hatred by the local populations...They try to portray themselves as victims in this course of events....but it was just politics and war...nothing sacred.
This has repeated itself in over 100 expulsions over the last two millennia and continues to this day.... there is a dramatic increase in modern forms anti-Semitism because of Jewish treatment of the Palestinians by the supporters of Netanyahu of whom the Jewish citizens put in office. He's a criminal psychopath doing the bidding of an electoral majority.

I'm sure you would disagree with it, but it has a considerable presence on the internet....that is backed up plenty of credible evidence...

and, is there an academic (Francis Boyle?) on this site that will peer review Professor Hulsey's work on WTC 7
"WTC 7 Did Not Collapse from Fire" - Dr. Leroy Hulsey, UAF, Sept. 6, 2017<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYV33LKDY8k&t=2s>

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"WTC 7 Did Not Collapse from Fire" - Dr. Leroy Hulsey, UAF, Sept....
On September 6, 2017, from the University of Alaska Fairbanks' Schaibel Auditorium, Dr. Leroy Hulsey present...

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:21 AM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com<mailto:davegreen84 at yahoo.com><mailto:davegreen84 at yahoo.com<mailto:davegreen84 at yahoo.com>>> wrote:

Stephen, I would have more respect for you if you just attributed all of our earthly problems to space aliens.

On Saturday, December 2, 2017, 10:15:13 AM CST, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net><mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>>> wrote:

“It’s “class” stupid."

Class, capitalism, the elites. It’s not about race, nationality, or religion, it’s the elites supporting the “for profit system” of every government, nation. This is what needs to be acknowledged and remedied.

On Dec 2, 2017, at 07:41, Stephen Francis <stephenf1113 at yahoo.com<mailto:stephenf1113 at yahoo.com><mailto:stephenf1113 at yahoo.com<mailto:stephenf1113 at yahoo.com>>> wrote:

I'm unequivocally NOT a neo-Nazi.... my roots go back to 1969 as an Army in-uniform antiwar protester who was jailed for protesting the Vietnam War on Veterans Day of that year.
I have thoroughly researched WWI and II and have come to the conclusion that Zionists and western Jewish banksters cooked up those wars and propped up Hitler (through IG Farben, the Bushes, Harrimans..etc) for unimaginable war profiteering gains.... and to create the State of Israel... (Balfour, British Mandate, Haavara emigration agreements, Rothschild funding of Jewish settlements in the 1890s...)
Because I don't toe the official Hitler orthodoxy, I'm branded an anti-Semite, but that is, unfortunately, nothing I can remedy.
The statement "All wars are bankers wars" best represent my beliefs.... Jews and philo-Semites have dominating banking since biblical times....and have profited greatly by financing both sides of conflicts...absolutely proven true....and just a small piece of evidence in a massive pile of such.
These people are my enemies.... and anyone who ignores or obfuscates these facts.

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 9:21 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com<mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com><mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com<mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>>> wrote:

Stephen, I’m sorry but you asked for it.

Members of this community, not all AWARE members, have pointed out that you aren’t just anti-semitic due to a relative or someone being Jewish, but that you are a Neo Nazi. I apologize for the here-say as I know its irrelevant. You proven if not your Neo Nazi involvement, certainly your sentiments, not by just the crap you say, but by your postings in the past taken from Neo Nazi websites.

Neo Nazi’s have never been known for their anti-war “stance” so I have to ask why are you on this Peace Discuss List if not to create chaos?  Maybe you’re one of the local FBI contractors, you know, not professional, not paid but rewarded monetarily if you disrupt and destroy anti-war organizations and/or movements?

On Dec 2, 2017, at 06:54, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net><mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>>> wrote:

I've become an avid researcher of Jewish history because of all the accusations of being racist and anti Semitic. I want to understand my claims...and it's been fascinating and unfortunately only deepened my distrust and dislike of the whole Jewish experience.

There is credible evidence that the sacred claim of Jewish origination of monotheism is just plain old plagiarism...see Babylonians, Zoroastrians... Sumeria...etc...Jews may have popularized it...but was in existence long before Jews say they invented it.... all contributing to the long-term vitriol against Jews....ex: Martin Luther's 'The Jews and Their Lies' book...etc.
As far as the destruction of the first and second Temples, they were the product of normal political machinations of a supremacist mindset that would not succumb to Roman power. The Jews miscalculated and overstepped their abilities in confronting or attacking Rome and were crushed basically in both instances...all in generalities...they were then totally expelled from Palestine because of mistrust, fear, and hatred by the local populations...They try to portray themselves as victims in this course of events....but it was just politics and war...nothing sacred.
This has repeated itself in over 100 expulsions over the last two millennia and continues to this day.... there is a dramatic increase in modern forms anti-Semitism because of Jewish treatment of the Palestinians by the supporters of Netanyahu of whom the Jewish citizens put in office. He's a criminal psychopath doing the bidding of an electoral majority.
If you thoroughly study Jewish history of exploitation, supremacism, and false flag treachery, it is sickening.

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