[Peace-discuss] Tax Rally Saturday
Stuart Levy
stuartnlevy at gmail.com
Wed Dec 6 15:35:50 UTC 2017
Absolutely, it's the right thing to do. Hugely regressive tax cuts -
combined with ever-increasing war spending - are MLK's gigantic suction
tube in action.
AWARE has not made a name for itself supporting other groups' work in
this town. I think that has been to our detriment.
I intend to be there at the tax rally. And even though some of us
from AWARE will be there, I won't be disappointed if no one joins AWARE,
or if other groups don't join in future events with us, because of it.
Karen, as you say, this is the right thing to do.
On 12/06/2017 06:56 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote:
> No kidding Bob, I’m under no illusion that our solidarity will be
> reciprocated. In the nearly five years I’ve been involved with AWARE,
> attending others programs, rally’s, demos, etc. I’ve never seen,
> almost never, others join AWARE in our demos, protests, or events
> against war, that includes you.
>
> However, that is not why I urge AWARE to attend and endorse this
> anti-tax rally. That is not why I urge everyone to attend.
>
> I do it because:
>
> 1) It’s the Right Thing to do.
>
> 2) Everyone should be opposing the tax increase being imposed upon
> all, but the super wealthy. We know, social services such as Medicare,
> Medicaid, and Social Security, come next.
>
> 3) Ending war, means changing the “system of government,” not just new
> elections, perhaps the “tax issue” will forward that happening,
> perhaps not.
>
> 4) I hope you’ll join us.
>
>
>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 04:42, Robert Naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
>> <mailto:naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>> wrote:
>>
>> I have to admit that my sympathy is more with Carl in this dispute.
>>
>> On the one hand, all good people should support all good things and
>> oppose all bad things, no matter what, right? If someone hands me a
>> petition saying, oppose the execution of X, I sign it. I don't bother
>> to scrutinize the details. I oppose the death penalty no matter what.
>> I oppose it for the innocent, and I oppose it for the guilty. So what
>> difference does it make if the person is innocent or guilty? I'm
>> going to sign the petition anyway.
>>
>> On the other hand, nobody should be under any illusions that if
>> anti-war, anti-Empire people in the U.S. spend energy and resources
>> supporting the justice causes that other people are focused on, that
>> will necessarily make them more likely in the future to support
>> anti-war, anti-Empire justice causes. It might work like that in a
>> normal country. But in the United States, since the McCarthy period,
>> the liberals have been indoctrinated not to help us. So, do the right
>> thing, but don't be under any illusions that your solidarity will be
>> reciprocated.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Robert Naiman
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>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss
>> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>> <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Karen
>>
>> The date has been changed from the 9th to the 16th.
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 20:50, kmedina67 <kmedina67 at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:kmedina67 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Karen Aram, thank you very much for pushing us on this.
>>>
>>> I will be there.
>>>
>>> I will be there, not in the name of anarchism which I do admire
>>> but only from afar; but in the name of Advent -- a time of great
>>> hope and preparation for the arrival of the most precious gift
>>> of love and sacrifice. In this spirit, I will be there.
>>>
>>> Pace e bene,
>>> - Karen Medina
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:*Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 05, 2017 4:27 PM
>>> *To:* C G Estabrook
>>> *Cc:* David Green; Stuart Levy; David Johnson; Karen AWARE
>>> Medina; Mildred O'brien
>>> *Subject:* Re: Tax Rally Saturday
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The tax plan is not a “mere distraction of the anti-war
>>> movement,” it is another GOP, neocon means of impoverishing the
>>> American working class. The fact that the Democrat Party voted
>>> against it, must be disturbing, but the fact that they did
>>> nothing, and never do, being good cops vs. bad cops is
>>> irrelevant. __
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will be there, if AWARE doesn’t wish to endorse it fine,
>>> another nail in their coffin.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should have considered it at Sunday’s meeting. __
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can't imagine any AWAREists being in favor of the tax
>>> bill, but it is a bit removed from an anti-war focus.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The political establishment is working furiously to distract
>>> the anti-war movement (e.g., “#Resistance”)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So it may be worthwhile for us to concentrate on US wars, as
>>> we've tried to do for 16 years. —CGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Karen Aram
>>> <karenaram at hotmail.com <mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What about AWARE endorsing the rally?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 09:40, David Green
>>> <davegreen84 at yahoo.com
>>> <mailto:davegreen84 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I appreciate the suggestion, but I'm not up for an
>>> outdoor event related to this particular issue on
>>> such a cold day, especially given our presence at
>>> the indoor market on Saturday morning.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 10:53:45
>>> AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com
>>> <mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I received this message today from Joel of one of
>>> the “left” or anti-capitalist organizations I met
>>> with on Saturday. He is requesting AWARE sponsor
>>> their anti-tax rally on Saturday, along with the
>>> other groups referred to below, and send a speaker.
>>>
>>> If David Green is willing, I would like to recommend
>>> he speak on behalf of AWARE on this topic.
>>>
>>> David Johnson, is well informed on the topic, but
>>> will likely be representing the DSA?
>>>
>>> Carl is an excellent speaker but might have a
>>> problem targeting the GOP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please see below Joel’s message:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "We're looking to hold it this Saturday at 2pm, at
>>> the federal courthouse in Urbana. The plan is to
>>> have a rally with speakers, and a street march if we
>>> think we have enough people.”
>>>
>>> "So far it looks like GEO will endorse, in addition
>>> to the Democratic Socialists, ISO and Socialist
>>> Alternative. Black Rose can'd endorse but a couple
>>> of them are active in helping to organize it. Would
>>> AWARE be able to co-sponsor as well, and send a
>>> speaker? "
>>>
>>> "We're putting together a Facebook event tonight,
>>> with this messaging
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Their FB message:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Last Friday, the Republicans passed their
>>> tax bill through the Senate that would
>>> *increase* taxes on ordinary people by $4.5
>>> trillion over ten years - the largest tax
>>> increase in US history. The bill would also
>>> trigger automatic cuts to medicare and
>>> social security, further devastate public
>>> education, and potentially triple or
>>> quadruple taxes on graduate students. With
>>> $6 trillion in tax cuts for the rich, this
>>> rip-off will massively increase economic and
>>> racial inequality in the United States.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We've written and called our representatives
>>> to oppose the bill, and they've shown that
>>> they truly don't care. So we're not asking
>>> any more. This Friday at 5, we'll join
>>> nationwide protests by rallying to fight
>>> back. We won't accept having bread taken out
>>> of our mouths. Join us and show that there
>>> will be no peace until this vicious bill is
>>> dead!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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