[Peace-discuss] Chris Hedges, brilliant as always, on "Fascism in the Age of Trump"

Karen Aram karenaram at hotmail.com
Sat Dec 16 22:50:24 UTC 2017


Carl

Glad you came, and one can certainly say, the truth was told at the anti-tax rally today, no holding back.

These young people understand what they are facing and they’re not relying on electoral politics, or the Democrats to bail us out. They know, reform isn’t the answer. They know its the capitalist system that has brought us to this, and what we need is “structural" change.


On Dec 16, 2017, at 10:39, C G Estabrook <cgestabrook at gmail.com<mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com>> wrote:

I neither argue against rallies nor apologize for Trump.

I do think it important to tell the truth about both.

Cf. ‘free speech’ (even for antifa); and <https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/anti-trumpism-is-anti-progressivism-in-disguise-9e688e6152e9<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedium.com%2F%40caityjohnstone%2Fanti-trumpism-is-anti-progressivism-in-disguise-9e688e6152e9&data=02%7C01%7C%7C563e6e04f1494bc81b7708d544b46e70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636490464084302042&sdata=PbDFo8s2krls6JTE%2BTMUW48Zu0q9gOaXLC1NvmDeAjM%3D&reserved=0>>.



On Dec 16, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Action, yes, not tv, but action in the streets, it worked in the past, we have no alternative. Your continual arguing against rally’s, other than opposing war, like your continued “apology” for Trump, is a distraction.

On Dec 16, 2017, at 10:17, C G Estabrook <cgestabrook at gmail.com<mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com>> wrote:

Isn’t that what we should be doing, on (UP)TV and in demonstrations, for a yet-unknowing world?

As Chesterton said, if a thing’s worth doing, it’s worth doing badly.


On Dec 16, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com<mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>> wrote:

Sorry Carl, It’s not television, it’s U Tube, and there is no transcript. It’s not brief either. As to a summary, I would never presume to summarize Chris Hedges, anymore than I would presume to summarize Chomsky.


On Dec 16, 2017, at 08:54, C G Estabrook <cgestabrook at gmail.com<mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com>> wrote:

Give me a transcript (or at least a summary), dammit.

I don’t have time to listen to someone talk on television.


On Dec 16, 2017, at 10:48 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

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