[Peace-discuss] Disgusting NYT editorial

Tue Feb 7 20:55:49 UTC 2017

Primarily, foil the Clinton administration’s plans to ruin the post-Soviet economy and reduce Russia into a producer of raw materials, under the control of foreign capital.

Before Putin, the US almost succeeded: even the Russian life-expectancy fell.

No surprise he’s hated by the US political establishment (and loved by the Russians).

> On Feb 7, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Good question, what has Putin done that no one likes or trusts him?
> 
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2017, at 10:40, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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>> I’m afraid you’re right.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Brussel, Morton K <brussel at illinois.edu <mailto:brussel at illinois.edu>> wrote:
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>>> So, what does Caitlin Johnstone really know about Putin that makes him so horrible in her eyes? Does she have to take this tack to make her opinions acceptable?
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The wonderful Caitlin Johnstone restores some sanity - and morality:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.newslogue.com/debate/327 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.newslogue.com_debate_327&d=DwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=9eBn2xukb4K19JC8Bn8zUQ&m=Q0iKkU5dWdq_SE8RVut8iN1DLsSEi9VBjJC5WtaKVOo&s=ZwGOPcw68hbOCuLEnuUynX4S-uWDQ7jLkWt_PRj0ZEY&e=>
>>>> 
>>>> "The President of the United States saying 'You think our country’s so innocent?' to Bill O’Reilly on Fox News was one of the best things that’s ever happened. For years Republicans have been moronically bashing Obama for a completely made up “apology tour” wherein they pretend the President went around apologizing for America’s war crimes and heinous abuses, and meanwhile Democrats were rightly calling Bush a bloodthirsty monster while wrongly ignoring Obama’s bloodbaths all across the globe. And now the establishment Democrats are eagerly embracing the leftover evil neocons from the Bush administration as they form an alliance against Trump..."
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 7, 2017, at 8:26 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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>>>>> This has to be read to be believed, I guess. They do not allow you to copy and past, thus only the link. The liberal intelligentsia is beyond incorrigible in its penchant for violence in the name of American exceptionalism.
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Blaming America First
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nytimes.com_2017_02_07_opinion_blaming-2Damerica-2Dfirst.html-3Faction-3Dclick-26pgtype-3DHomepage-26clickSource-3Dstory-2Dheading-26module-3Dopinion-2Dc-2Dcol-2Dleft-2Dregion-26region-3Dopinion-2Dc-2Dcol-2Dleft-2Dregion-26WT.nav-3Dopinion-2Dc-2Dcol-2Dleft-2Dregion-26-5Fr-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=n5FDXcyvilUwlDIc0smxOERDRTO5kNoyAHCuERgq4tI&s=c2iryHUqX_bbK0r2FoeWsbJQB5UTa6lyqO6BwyGcUFg&e=> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nytimes.com_2017_02_07_opinion_blaming-2Damerica-2Dfirst.html-3Faction-3Dclick-26pgtype-3DHomepage-26clickSource-3Dstory-2Dheading-26module-3Dopinion-2Dc-2Dcol-2Dleft-2Dregion-26region-3Dopinion-2Dc-2Dcol-2Dleft-2Dregion-26WT.nav-3Dopinion-2Dc-2Dcol-2Dleft-2Dregion-26-5Fr-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=n5FDXcyvilUwlDIc0smxOERDRTO5kNoyAHCuERgq4tI&s=c2iryHUqX_bbK0r2FoeWsbJQB5UTa6lyqO6BwyGcUFg&e=>
>>>>> 	
>>>>> Blaming America First
>>>>> By The Editorial Board
>>>>> Why does President Trump keep saying the United States is as bad as Russia?
>>>>>  <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nytimes.com_2017_02_07_opinion_blaming-2Damerica-2Dfirst.html-3Faction-3Dclick-26pgtype-3DHomepage-26clickSource-3Dstory-2Dheading-26module-3Dopinion-2Dc-2Dcol-2Dleft-2Dregion-26region-3Dopinion-2Dc-2Dcol-2Dleft-2Dregion-26WT.nav-3Dopinion-2Dc-2Dcol-2Dleft-2Dregion-26-5Fr-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=n5FDXcyvilUwlDIc0smxOERDRTO5kNoyAHCuERgq4tI&s=c2iryHUqX_bbK0r2FoeWsbJQB5UTa6lyqO6BwyGcUFg&e=>
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