[Peace-discuss] Paul Street on Obama and Bill Clinton

[Carl G. Estabrook]

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> On Jan 9, 2017, at 9:50 PM, David Green via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> But, unlike Ronald Reagan and unlike George W. Bush, who were just sort of half-moronic figureheads for real power brokers behind the scenes, both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama -- highly educated, Ivy League law school, sophisticated, conscious articulators of neo-liberal and imperial ideology -- know exactly what they're doing and what they were about. And I sort of know this from inside information from Obama in Chicago long before he became the national Obama phenomenon. He's sort of quite astute about these kinds of things. He knows a thing or two about class analysis, knows a thing or two about Marxism, knows what neo-liberalism is. And you know, in this wonderful book that just came out by Mike Lofgren, "The Deep State" right -- Lofgren's this sort of inside Washington character. He was a Congressional Republican staffer for three decades. And he describes Obama, I think, accurately as kind of a reluctant, at the end of the day, sort of, but self-conscious and ultimately committed articulator of the imperial system. You know, in sort of a diffident kind of way that ended up pissing off some elites. But he knew what he was about. He's very different than Bush and very different than Reagan and I think the same applies to Bill Clinton. They know they've been managing state capitalism and they've been fairly good at it. I think this will be a difference with Trump, as well.
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> Trump is Obama's Legacy <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__therealnews.com_t2_story-3A18070-3ATrump-2Dis-2DObama-2527s-2DLegacy&d=DQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=rbV2XXUJSr8RnfD4yJebUvh4pmQtEklpQvMTRdBx7BA&s=HAjlIhZiNB8Ve21CaHQoj7DXOo6dAhtcQkHc12RTGEY&e=>
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> Trump is Obama's Legacy
> By The Real News Network
> Paul Street tells Paul Jay that in the first two years of Obama's first term when the Democrats controlled b...
>  <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__therealnews.com_t2_story-3A18070-3ATrump-2Dis-2DObama-2527s-2DLegacy&d=DQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=rbV2XXUJSr8RnfD4yJebUvh4pmQtEklpQvMTRdBx7BA&s=HAjlIhZiNB8Ve21CaHQoj7DXOo6dAhtcQkHc12RTGEY&e=>
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