[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Why I won’t be marching in the July 4th parade

Robert Naiman naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
Tue Jul 4 21:24:17 UTC 2017


Trump's Muslim ban is an attack on *previously-legal* immigration. He
blocked people from coming to the U.S. who had valid U.S. visas, including
UN- and US- vetted Syrian and Iraqi refugees.

The question of impacts of illegal Mexican immigration on low-wage American
workers is complicated. The question of economic impact of legal Syrian and
Iraqi migration on low-wage American workers is not complicated. There's no
impact. The scale is far too small. It's tears in the rain.



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On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> From <https://www.jacobinmag.com/2011/01/let-them-eat-diversity>:
>
> ...who’s for illegal immigration? As far as I know … the only people who
> are openly for illegal immigration are neoliberal economists.
>
> First of all, neoliberal economists are completely for open borders, in so
> far as that’s possible. Friedman said years ago that, “You can’t have a
> welfare state and open borders,” but of course the point of that was “open
> the borders, because that’ll kill the welfare state.” There’s a good paper
> <http://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=16508148925211743157&hl=en&as_sdt=20005&sciodt=20000>
> you can get off the web by Gordon Hanson, commissioned by whoever runs Foreign
> Affairs, and the argument is that illegal immigration is better than
> legal immigration, because illegal immigration is extremely responsive to
> market conditions.
>
> So it’s quite striking that you have all this protesting against illegal
> immigration, and especially at a time when it’s down. So why are people so
> upset about it? They are upset about it not because it has gotten worse, it
> hasn’t, but because they somehow recognize that one of the primary sort of
> marks of the triumph of neoliberalism in the US is a very high tolerance of
> illegal immigration, and that illegal immigration is the kind of *ne plus
> ultra* of the labor mobility that neoliberalism requires. I mean that’s
> why for years — even though it’s a kind of contradiction in terms — as a
> policy it’s worked well. The Bush administration did everything it could to
> talk against illegal immigration but leave it alone and I’m sure the Obama
> administration would do the same thing except its hand’s being forced by
> the Tea Party.
>
> ...Some argue that limiting immigration could help restore the unions and
> that’s obviously false and I’m certainly not saying that the Tea Party has
> the diagnosis right. The Tea Party thinks that immigrants are taking away
> their money. It’s not immigrants who are taking away their money; it’s
> neoliberalism that’s taking away their money...
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss <
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>
> Was there a count of how many people marched with the Immigration Forum?
> It seemed like a lot of people.
>
>
>
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