[Peace-discuss] DemNow! andTimothy Snyder

[David Green]

And of course, while the "relativization" of the Holocaust in relation to Stalin's crimes would ordinarily be anathema to the Zionists/neocons and "Holocaust Industry", Snyder is given a pass because he is down with the neocon-Zionist program. 

    On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:46 PM, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu> wrote:
 

 Snyder’s ‘work’ supports the criminal intentions of the US political establishment to retard the economic integration of Eurasia by military and other means.

Our government is willing to kill a lot of people - and tell a lot of lies - to prevent a challenge to the economic hegemony of the US 1%. Snyder’s down with the program:

"Contrary to Snyder, the problem is not a Russian push to the west, but an American drive to the east that has only intensified since Euromaidan. While the State Department argues that a democratic wave is sweeping across Eastern Europe, the claim is belied by the mass disenfranchisment of Russian-speaking minorities, the growing Baltic identification with the Third Reich, and the exaltation of Bandera in places like Lvov and Kiev.

"The rise of the double-genocide movement, which has enjoyed backing from Václav Havel, German President Joachim Gauck, and Vytautas Landsbergis, is perhaps most dangerous of all since it represents a major step toward the relativization of Nazi war crimes by equating them with the atrocities of Stalin. Bloodlands is important because it is less an effort to understand what happened in 1933–45 than a milestone in the process of engagement with local revanchist forces.

"The rapturous reception that it received in the mainstream media is a sign that intellectual resistance to America’s drive to the east has all but collapsed…” [D. Lazare]

—CGE


> On May 31, 2017, at 9:57 PM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> We commented on Snyder a couple of weeks ago on NfN, prompted by my hearing an interview with him by the usually perspicacious Chuck Mertz of This is Hell. During that week, Goodman had interviewed a related individual, Ruth Ben-Ghiat, regarding Italian fascism, so this is by now a familiar pattern.
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> Snyder's pamphlet is downloadable from the Champaign Public Library Cloud, and I assume Urbana as well; it's not exactly Common Sense. But the interview reflects the lack of criticism that Chomsky/Zinn etc. regularly have brought to Democracy Now, and the depths to which Trump has driven what is called the progressive media.
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> DG
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> On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:49 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/09/timothy-snyders-lies/
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>> On May 31, 2017, at 4:21 PM, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>> Interesting interview with smart guy, Yale prof Timothy Snyder, who talks about how to prevent authoritarianism without ever taking into account what the U.S. has done in its overthrow of governments and its wars to in fact promote authoritarianism (think of Chile, Brazil, Central America, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia,…).
>> He is also the one who most vociferously defended the coup in Ukraine, the attacks against the separatist Donbas region, and its fascist overtones. What lies behind this is his deep antagonism to Russia.. I found it curious also that he never alluded to American militarism and the consequences it has for authoritarianism.
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>> He’s written a book “On Tyranny”. It might be interesting to parse. 
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>> When I saw that Snyder was featured on DemocracyNow!, I was tempted to ignore it.
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>> —mkb
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