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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Mar 2 15:57:01 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 15:57:01 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The truth about Syria Message-ID: Karen Aram Just now · A highly detailed critique by Barbara McKenzie of Patrick Henningsen's "21st. Century Wire" which can be accessed online, where accompanying photo's and VDO's can be viewed. They don't appear here within the context of my cut and paste of the text. This is one of the best news services for information related to our wars in the Mideast and North Africa, and the photo's and VDO's are well worth viewing. Syria Solidarity UK Take on Vanessa Beeley – and Lose FEBRUARY 28, 2017 BY BARBARA MCKENZIE 5 COMMENTS Barbara McKenzie 21st Century Wire One of the most difficult things about reporting on a war that claims to be a civil war or a popular revolution, is to gauge the feelings of the ordinary people. The Syrian voice in practice tends to be reduced to ‘my friend’s cousin’, or ‘three people I spoke to in a refugee camp in Jordan’, or ‘all the ex-pats’. This was never going to be good enough for Vanessa Beeley. Vanessa Beeley has been following the Syrian war closely, since leaving Gaza in May 2013. She visited the country three times during 2016. She has carried out in-depth investigations into phenomena such as the fake humanitarian construct known as the White Helmets . Beeley was in Aleppo during and after its liberation from US, NATO & Gulf state funded, extremist groups in December 2016. She chose to make the most of this rare opportunity by interviewing the people who had been trapped, under occupation by these Nusra Front-led terrorist groups, in East Aleppo. Many interviews were conducted, literally as these Syrian civilians emerged from their almost five year imprisonment. Having undertaken this task, she did this thoroughly, speaking with as many people as possible from the liberated districts of East Aleppo, whose voices can be heard in her videos (full list here). In recent weeks Vanessa Beeley has been speaking at venues in the United Kingdom, including Bristol on the 17th February (her presentation was videoed and the video should soon be available). The meeting was attended by about 70 people, including a hostile group from Syria Solidarity UK (SSUK). SSUK is a hard-line proponent of regime change in Syria, promoting active intervention by NATO state powers, including a Libya-style no-fly zone. Its narrative assumes a ‘popular revolution’, the total veracity of Western propaganda, and the validity of propaganda constructs like the White Helmets. One of the SSUK members, Clara Connolly, has written her own report on Vanessa Beeley’s presentation, Beeley in Bristol. It is a common tactic for people who actively support war and destruction in Syria, regardless of the harm to the Syrian people, to claim the moral high ground over those opposing the war. Clara Connolly, in her attempts to declare Vanessa Beeley as incompetent and morally deficient, only exposes her own moral and intellectual bankruptcy. Connolly is big on labels, starting with the public meeting itself, which is termed a ‘Stalinist cult meeting’. In the first few lines, she manages to damn Vanessa Beeley by association with the ‘far-right’ (Infowars), the socialist paper Morning Star, and the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Leninist), also termed Stalinist by Connolly, who conceivably does not know what the term means. Mehrnaz Shahabi, who introduced Beeley, is described as ‘an open supporter of the Iranian regime’. Shahabi does indeed belong to the Campaign Against Sanctions and Military Intervention in Iran – perhaps we should expect an ISUK group to emerge in the event of NATO contriving a colour revolution in Iran. Consideration of some of the issues raised by Connolly reveals her total lack of interest in the real facts of the Syrian conflict. Food shortages in Aleppo. ‘Beeley […] advanced the astonishing and unsupported theory that there was “enough food in East Aleppo for a year”.’ The following is one of the testimonies supporting this statement, that Beeley had included in her presentation, that was seemingly ignored or overlooked by Connolly in her eagerness to disappear the Syrian voices that did not agree with the SSUK narrative on Syria: In the last months of 2016, extravagant claims were made of the Syrian government deliberately starving Aleppo into submission; take, for example the Nation, Assad Regime to Besieged Aleppo: Surrender or Starve. During and after liberation of East Aleppo, by the Syrian Arab Army and allies, storehouses were found with substantial quantities of food aid – this unassailable fact has been widely reported, but seems to have completely escaped Clara Connolly. In September 2016 a bizarre situation arose whereby the UN was demanding access to eastern Aleppo for humanitarian aid, but there were protests by the occupying Nusra Front-led extremist forces, insisting that is was not humiliating food aid they wanted, but an opening of the Castello road, a long-time conduit for weapons, supplies and equipment for the embedded terrorists. One look at the protesters shows why they rejected food aid – starvation is not usually a problem for the extremist and terrorist occupying forces in Syria: Various extremist factions and their supporters in East Aleppo prior to its liberation by SAA and allies. Third from left is Riyadh educated and funded “chief” of Jaish al Fatah ( Army of Conquest), Sheikh Abdullah Muhaysini. (Image via @Sadattawa) WHITE HELMETS STARVING White Helmets leader, Raed Saleh, says Aleppo residents 10 days from starvation. November 2016 Photo taken of White Helmet, Ismail Alabdullah end of October 2016 The same situation prevails in other towns occupied by militants. The town of Madaya, occupied by Ahrar Al Sham & assorted extremist groups, and under siege by the Syrian army, regularly receives aid from the Red Crescent/Red Cross with entry negotiated through the Syrian government in Damascus. However, in January 2016, even though aid for three months had gone in the previous October, there were reports of starvation in the town, blamed, naturally, on the Syrian government. When people who needed medical treatment emerged from the town, RT’s Murad Gazdiev went to meet them (there were no representatives from Western media present). He was told that the militants were hoarding the food aid and selling it at exorbitant prices. A familiar “siege” pattern across the extremist and terrorist occupied areas of Syria. 21st Century Wire article on Madaya: West Engineer Another Humanitarian Media Hoax in Syria Misuse of schools and hospitals – ‘Beeley claimed al Nusra occupied schools and hospitals‘ There is extensive evidence, reported even in the corporate press, of the schools and hospitals of eastern Aleppo used by extremists as military bases, prisons and storehouses, as in the video above, for anything but their intended purpose. In early December 2016, the Syrian Arab Army searched the National Hospital in eastern Aleppo, which was still in use, but as a military command centre, weapon depot and prison. The last hospital in Aleppo That the National Hospital was standing at all should come as a surprise, given all the reports of the ‘Last Hospital’ in Aleppo, which along with the ‘Last Clown’ and ‘Last Gardener’ have passed into legend. On 28 April 2016 Doctors Without Borders (MSF) reported Syria: Airstrike destroys MSF-supported hospital in Aleppo killing 14 – the hospital was reduced to rubble according to MSF’s source, unnamed ‘hospital staff’. The story that once again the Russians had obliterated the last hospital in Aleppo went viral, see for example, the Washington Post. Connolly, however, is clearly completely unaware of this well reported story, accusing Beeley of ‘disputing a claim that was never made’. The extravagant claims were quickly forgotten by both MSF and the press – as Connolly correctly points out, MSF stated in May 2016 that it would reopen in two weeks, which does not alter the fact of the original lie, reported with such enthusiasm by MSF and the corporate media, all of whom continue to disseminate lies from the same sources. In December 2016 Vanessa Beeley tracked down the hospital and found it intact and usable, with records proving it was operational in July 2016, three months later (video here) . Connolly claims to take offense that Vanessa Beeley, along with most people following the Syrian conflict, ridicule the continual dramatic announcements from MSF of the destruction of another ‘last hospital’. Scoffing at blatant propaganda is a proper response, certainly not to be compared with Hillary Clinton’s laughing at the demise of Gaddafi, or Madeleine Albright’s dismissal of the deaths of half a million children due to US crippling sanctions on Iraq. For Albright, these deaths were, a price that was “worth it” for the US geopolitical agenda that rarely leaves a target country standing, post US intervention. The White Helmets ‘What is important about the White Helmets is what they do—attacking rescuers in cities under bombardment is like attacking the New York Fire Brigade after 9/11.’ Needless to say Beeley is NOT attacking the work of first responders, and in fact she has written several articles promoting the role of the real civil defence in Syria. What she has done, however, is expose the shadow state function & terrorist affiliations of the White Helmets, who are far from being humanitarian, first responders, according to the testimony of Syrian civilians living alongside these frauds, in East Aleppo, for almost five years. The White Helmets, self-styled as an impartial first-responder outfit, are funded by the UK, the US and allied NATO & Gulf states for the primary purpose of constructing propaganda, in order to garner acceptance for a no-fly zone in Syria. A No-Fly Zone that has been called a declaration of war between the US and Russia on Syrian soil, by a number of analysts and scholars. Hillary Clinton herself, admitted that a No Fly Zone would lead to greater bloodshed in Syria. The material the White Helmets provide is a primary source for claims of alleged Russian and Syrian war crimes, the majority of which have been discredited and proven to be False Flags. They have been a vital weapon in the campaign for an escalated intervention against the Syrian government, army and allies – any attack on the credibility of the White Helmets is seen by NATO and its allies as a blow to that cause. A member of the Syrian Arab Red Crescent, whom Beeley spoke with, likewise could not recall seeing White Helmets operating in eastern Aleppo: Barrel bombs: ‘Beeley argues that if the SNHR figure of 35,000 barrel bombs had fallen on Syria, it would have been the equivalent of several atom bombs and “we wouldn’t have a world”.’ SNHRbarrelbombs If Connolly is intimating that the statement she is attributing to Beeley is nonsense, she would be right – the US dropped 26,000 bombs in 2016 alone without managing to destroy the planet. And Vanessa Beeley did indeed say something like this, but Connolly is omitting one vital piece of Beeley’s argument – the equivalence of several atom bombs is based on the wild claims made for the power of the barrel bomb. Although the barrel bomb is in truth a very primitive weapon, James Le Mesurier, UK ex military trainer of the White Helmets, announced on the BBC that a single bomb was equivalent to an 8.0 magnitude earthquake (see Beeley’s Syria: Consign Barrel Bombs to the Propaganda Graveyard). It is certainly not Vanessa Beeley who is talking nonsense ‘Moderate rebels’ – al Zinki, Ahrar al Sham, al Nusra, ISIS The Astana talks over Syria’s future between the Syrian government and the opposition achieved one thing at least: they revealed exactly what is meant by what John Kerry used to fondly term the ‘legitimate opposition’ in Syria. The opposition delegation to the talks were led by Mohammed Alloush of Jaish al Islam, and the two largest factions involved were Jaish al Islam and Ahrar al Sham. Both these groups are regarded as barbaric extremists by the Syrian people, both groups have been involved in disgusting warcrimes: Jaish al Islam is notable for its use of chemical weapons and using caged women as human shields, while Ahrar al Sham has participated in many atrocities including the massacre of al Zara. The ideological identity of both groups with that of ISIS and al Nusra is indisputable. Of the two groups, Ahrar is the one with a strong presence in northern Syria, including Aleppo, and its operational links with both ISIS and al Nusra are well recorded; see e.g. Guido Steinberg, Ahrar al-Sham: The “Syrian Taliban”, and Stanford University, Mapping Militant Organisations. The policy of the Obama administration was to make ISIS the fall guy in the context of Syria: the US was waging war on ISIS, rather than terrorism. Al Nusra, also designated as a terrorist organisation, was in turn separated from the other groups, so that the followers of the conflict have been constantly subjected to silly statements from both John Kerry and Russia’s Sergei Lavrov about the US disentangling its ‘moderates’ from the extremists. Connolly is anxious to devalue the presence and role of al Nusra and ISIS in Aleppo, playing to the fiction that Aleppo was dominated by ‘moderates’, i.e. Ahrar al Sham, and Harakat al Zinki, who were responsible for the gleeful beheading of Abdullah Issa in July 2016. She insists that ‘until February 2016, Al-Nusra were not in Aleppo at all, and after that only in small numbers compared to the other brigades’ (pointing to the UN figures of 900 out of 11,000) and ‘In reality ISIS had had no presence in East Aleppo since January 2014’. In fact, al Nusra has paraded its presence in Aleppo on regular intervals over the years, for example in October 2013, September 2014, and May 2015, with weekly parades reported in April 2016. Protests nominally carried out by the ‘Free Syrian Army’, such as the one protesting food aid above, inevitably show the al Nusra flag; when Murad Gazdiev filmed across to eastern Aleppo in October 2016, the only flags showing on the front line were ISIS and al Nusra. ISIS may have officially left Aleppo in 2014, but its spirit lived on, as the footage from Beeley’s footage from the White Helmet base and the Syrian Arab Army’s foray into the National Hospital both reveal. The al Zinki group, which enjoys a special relationship with the White Helmets, apparent in Channel 4’s homage to al Zinki, clearly identifies with ISIS. In September 2016 Eva Bartlett appeared on RT’s Crosstalk, Syria: CEASEFIRE 2.0, and was asked to comment on moderate rebels. ‘It’s a farce. There are no moderate rebels, and this is what Syrians would say if they had a voice. They’re all committing the same crimes, the same heinous acts.’ (at 6:20 mins) Another guest on the programme, Stephen Zunes, took issue with Eva Bartlett, but he was unable to suggest a single group that could be considered moderate. ‘The alphabet soup of differently named Jihadi groups in Syria merely disguises a single continuum of violent Wahhabi Jihadis all committed to the same cause: the overthrow of the Syrian government and the establishment of a sectarian Wahhabi exclusively Sunni state in its place’ ~ Alexander Mercouris. Syrian Voices SSUK’s slogan is #ListentoSyrians. Connolly, however, was clearly unimpressed with Beeley’s endeavours to do exactly that, i.e. listen to Syrians. She calls into question both the veracity and the value of Beeley’s interviews: according to Connolly, ‘they needed extensive commentary from Beeley to yield the sense she wanted’. This is a matter of opinion – while it is true there are no intrusive pieces to camera, most would consider that the clips speak for themselves. No doubt there are others who question Beeley’s interviews, those who will claim that her interviewees are speaking under fear of their lives. It is up to a psychologist to assess whether these claims are consistent with the body language of the people of Aleppo, or with their eagerness to speak of their experiences. However, CNN, the BBC, and organisations such as SSUK could have tested the veracity of the reporting of Vanessa Beeley and RT reporters like Murad Gazdiev and Lizzie Phelam, both before and after liberation, but have chosen not to. They could have arranged to enter the National Hospital to check the findings of the Syrian Arab Army, but failed to do so. What Beeley achieved with a video camera and an interpreter seems quite obvious now, but neither the BBC nor CNN, with all their resources, or SSUK for that matter, have made any attempt to emulate this feat. Connolly’s attack on Beeley is malicious, unresearched and manifestly agenda-driven. Within the murky fog of ignorance willfully created by propaganda from the likes of SSUK, the integrity and intellect of Beeley’s work, and its real contribution to understanding, shine like a beacon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Mar 2 15:57:01 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 15:57:01 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The truth about Syria Message-ID: Karen Aram Just now · A highly detailed critique by Barbara McKenzie of Patrick Henningsen's "21st. Century Wire" which can be accessed online, where accompanying photo's and VDO's can be viewed. They don't appear here within the context of my cut and paste of the text. This is one of the best news services for information related to our wars in the Mideast and North Africa, and the photo's and VDO's are well worth viewing. Syria Solidarity UK Take on Vanessa Beeley – and Lose FEBRUARY 28, 2017 BY BARBARA MCKENZIE 5 COMMENTS Barbara McKenzie 21st Century Wire One of the most difficult things about reporting on a war that claims to be a civil war or a popular revolution, is to gauge the feelings of the ordinary people. The Syrian voice in practice tends to be reduced to ‘my friend’s cousin’, or ‘three people I spoke to in a refugee camp in Jordan’, or ‘all the ex-pats’. This was never going to be good enough for Vanessa Beeley. Vanessa Beeley has been following the Syrian war closely, since leaving Gaza in May 2013. She visited the country three times during 2016. She has carried out in-depth investigations into phenomena such as the fake humanitarian construct known as the White Helmets . Beeley was in Aleppo during and after its liberation from US, NATO & Gulf state funded, extremist groups in December 2016. She chose to make the most of this rare opportunity by interviewing the people who had been trapped, under occupation by these Nusra Front-led terrorist groups, in East Aleppo. Many interviews were conducted, literally as these Syrian civilians emerged from their almost five year imprisonment. Having undertaken this task, she did this thoroughly, speaking with as many people as possible from the liberated districts of East Aleppo, whose voices can be heard in her videos (full list here). In recent weeks Vanessa Beeley has been speaking at venues in the United Kingdom, including Bristol on the 17th February (her presentation was videoed and the video should soon be available). The meeting was attended by about 70 people, including a hostile group from Syria Solidarity UK (SSUK). SSUK is a hard-line proponent of regime change in Syria, promoting active intervention by NATO state powers, including a Libya-style no-fly zone. Its narrative assumes a ‘popular revolution’, the total veracity of Western propaganda, and the validity of propaganda constructs like the White Helmets. One of the SSUK members, Clara Connolly, has written her own report on Vanessa Beeley’s presentation, Beeley in Bristol. It is a common tactic for people who actively support war and destruction in Syria, regardless of the harm to the Syrian people, to claim the moral high ground over those opposing the war. Clara Connolly, in her attempts to declare Vanessa Beeley as incompetent and morally deficient, only exposes her own moral and intellectual bankruptcy. Connolly is big on labels, starting with the public meeting itself, which is termed a ‘Stalinist cult meeting’. In the first few lines, she manages to damn Vanessa Beeley by association with the ‘far-right’ (Infowars), the socialist paper Morning Star, and the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Leninist), also termed Stalinist by Connolly, who conceivably does not know what the term means. Mehrnaz Shahabi, who introduced Beeley, is described as ‘an open supporter of the Iranian regime’. Shahabi does indeed belong to the Campaign Against Sanctions and Military Intervention in Iran – perhaps we should expect an ISUK group to emerge in the event of NATO contriving a colour revolution in Iran. Consideration of some of the issues raised by Connolly reveals her total lack of interest in the real facts of the Syrian conflict. Food shortages in Aleppo. ‘Beeley […] advanced the astonishing and unsupported theory that there was “enough food in East Aleppo for a year”.’ The following is one of the testimonies supporting this statement, that Beeley had included in her presentation, that was seemingly ignored or overlooked by Connolly in her eagerness to disappear the Syrian voices that did not agree with the SSUK narrative on Syria: In the last months of 2016, extravagant claims were made of the Syrian government deliberately starving Aleppo into submission; take, for example the Nation, Assad Regime to Besieged Aleppo: Surrender or Starve. During and after liberation of East Aleppo, by the Syrian Arab Army and allies, storehouses were found with substantial quantities of food aid – this unassailable fact has been widely reported, but seems to have completely escaped Clara Connolly. In September 2016 a bizarre situation arose whereby the UN was demanding access to eastern Aleppo for humanitarian aid, but there were protests by the occupying Nusra Front-led extremist forces, insisting that is was not humiliating food aid they wanted, but an opening of the Castello road, a long-time conduit for weapons, supplies and equipment for the embedded terrorists. One look at the protesters shows why they rejected food aid – starvation is not usually a problem for the extremist and terrorist occupying forces in Syria: Various extremist factions and their supporters in East Aleppo prior to its liberation by SAA and allies. Third from left is Riyadh educated and funded “chief” of Jaish al Fatah ( Army of Conquest), Sheikh Abdullah Muhaysini. (Image via @Sadattawa) WHITE HELMETS STARVING White Helmets leader, Raed Saleh, says Aleppo residents 10 days from starvation. November 2016 Photo taken of White Helmet, Ismail Alabdullah end of October 2016 The same situation prevails in other towns occupied by militants. The town of Madaya, occupied by Ahrar Al Sham & assorted extremist groups, and under siege by the Syrian army, regularly receives aid from the Red Crescent/Red Cross with entry negotiated through the Syrian government in Damascus. However, in January 2016, even though aid for three months had gone in the previous October, there were reports of starvation in the town, blamed, naturally, on the Syrian government. When people who needed medical treatment emerged from the town, RT’s Murad Gazdiev went to meet them (there were no representatives from Western media present). He was told that the militants were hoarding the food aid and selling it at exorbitant prices. A familiar “siege” pattern across the extremist and terrorist occupied areas of Syria. 21st Century Wire article on Madaya: West Engineer Another Humanitarian Media Hoax in Syria Misuse of schools and hospitals – ‘Beeley claimed al Nusra occupied schools and hospitals‘ There is extensive evidence, reported even in the corporate press, of the schools and hospitals of eastern Aleppo used by extremists as military bases, prisons and storehouses, as in the video above, for anything but their intended purpose. In early December 2016, the Syrian Arab Army searched the National Hospital in eastern Aleppo, which was still in use, but as a military command centre, weapon depot and prison. The last hospital in Aleppo That the National Hospital was standing at all should come as a surprise, given all the reports of the ‘Last Hospital’ in Aleppo, which along with the ‘Last Clown’ and ‘Last Gardener’ have passed into legend. On 28 April 2016 Doctors Without Borders (MSF) reported Syria: Airstrike destroys MSF-supported hospital in Aleppo killing 14 – the hospital was reduced to rubble according to MSF’s source, unnamed ‘hospital staff’. The story that once again the Russians had obliterated the last hospital in Aleppo went viral, see for example, the Washington Post. Connolly, however, is clearly completely unaware of this well reported story, accusing Beeley of ‘disputing a claim that was never made’. The extravagant claims were quickly forgotten by both MSF and the press – as Connolly correctly points out, MSF stated in May 2016 that it would reopen in two weeks, which does not alter the fact of the original lie, reported with such enthusiasm by MSF and the corporate media, all of whom continue to disseminate lies from the same sources. In December 2016 Vanessa Beeley tracked down the hospital and found it intact and usable, with records proving it was operational in July 2016, three months later (video here) . Connolly claims to take offense that Vanessa Beeley, along with most people following the Syrian conflict, ridicule the continual dramatic announcements from MSF of the destruction of another ‘last hospital’. Scoffing at blatant propaganda is a proper response, certainly not to be compared with Hillary Clinton’s laughing at the demise of Gaddafi, or Madeleine Albright’s dismissal of the deaths of half a million children due to US crippling sanctions on Iraq. For Albright, these deaths were, a price that was “worth it” for the US geopolitical agenda that rarely leaves a target country standing, post US intervention. The White Helmets ‘What is important about the White Helmets is what they do—attacking rescuers in cities under bombardment is like attacking the New York Fire Brigade after 9/11.’ Needless to say Beeley is NOT attacking the work of first responders, and in fact she has written several articles promoting the role of the real civil defence in Syria. What she has done, however, is expose the shadow state function & terrorist affiliations of the White Helmets, who are far from being humanitarian, first responders, according to the testimony of Syrian civilians living alongside these frauds, in East Aleppo, for almost five years. The White Helmets, self-styled as an impartial first-responder outfit, are funded by the UK, the US and allied NATO & Gulf states for the primary purpose of constructing propaganda, in order to garner acceptance for a no-fly zone in Syria. A No-Fly Zone that has been called a declaration of war between the US and Russia on Syrian soil, by a number of analysts and scholars. Hillary Clinton herself, admitted that a No Fly Zone would lead to greater bloodshed in Syria. The material the White Helmets provide is a primary source for claims of alleged Russian and Syrian war crimes, the majority of which have been discredited and proven to be False Flags. They have been a vital weapon in the campaign for an escalated intervention against the Syrian government, army and allies – any attack on the credibility of the White Helmets is seen by NATO and its allies as a blow to that cause. A member of the Syrian Arab Red Crescent, whom Beeley spoke with, likewise could not recall seeing White Helmets operating in eastern Aleppo: Barrel bombs: ‘Beeley argues that if the SNHR figure of 35,000 barrel bombs had fallen on Syria, it would have been the equivalent of several atom bombs and “we wouldn’t have a world”.’ SNHRbarrelbombs If Connolly is intimating that the statement she is attributing to Beeley is nonsense, she would be right – the US dropped 26,000 bombs in 2016 alone without managing to destroy the planet. And Vanessa Beeley did indeed say something like this, but Connolly is omitting one vital piece of Beeley’s argument – the equivalence of several atom bombs is based on the wild claims made for the power of the barrel bomb. Although the barrel bomb is in truth a very primitive weapon, James Le Mesurier, UK ex military trainer of the White Helmets, announced on the BBC that a single bomb was equivalent to an 8.0 magnitude earthquake (see Beeley’s Syria: Consign Barrel Bombs to the Propaganda Graveyard). It is certainly not Vanessa Beeley who is talking nonsense ‘Moderate rebels’ – al Zinki, Ahrar al Sham, al Nusra, ISIS The Astana talks over Syria’s future between the Syrian government and the opposition achieved one thing at least: they revealed exactly what is meant by what John Kerry used to fondly term the ‘legitimate opposition’ in Syria. The opposition delegation to the talks were led by Mohammed Alloush of Jaish al Islam, and the two largest factions involved were Jaish al Islam and Ahrar al Sham. Both these groups are regarded as barbaric extremists by the Syrian people, both groups have been involved in disgusting warcrimes: Jaish al Islam is notable for its use of chemical weapons and using caged women as human shields, while Ahrar al Sham has participated in many atrocities including the massacre of al Zara. The ideological identity of both groups with that of ISIS and al Nusra is indisputable. Of the two groups, Ahrar is the one with a strong presence in northern Syria, including Aleppo, and its operational links with both ISIS and al Nusra are well recorded; see e.g. Guido Steinberg, Ahrar al-Sham: The “Syrian Taliban”, and Stanford University, Mapping Militant Organisations. The policy of the Obama administration was to make ISIS the fall guy in the context of Syria: the US was waging war on ISIS, rather than terrorism. Al Nusra, also designated as a terrorist organisation, was in turn separated from the other groups, so that the followers of the conflict have been constantly subjected to silly statements from both John Kerry and Russia’s Sergei Lavrov about the US disentangling its ‘moderates’ from the extremists. Connolly is anxious to devalue the presence and role of al Nusra and ISIS in Aleppo, playing to the fiction that Aleppo was dominated by ‘moderates’, i.e. Ahrar al Sham, and Harakat al Zinki, who were responsible for the gleeful beheading of Abdullah Issa in July 2016. She insists that ‘until February 2016, Al-Nusra were not in Aleppo at all, and after that only in small numbers compared to the other brigades’ (pointing to the UN figures of 900 out of 11,000) and ‘In reality ISIS had had no presence in East Aleppo since January 2014’. In fact, al Nusra has paraded its presence in Aleppo on regular intervals over the years, for example in October 2013, September 2014, and May 2015, with weekly parades reported in April 2016. Protests nominally carried out by the ‘Free Syrian Army’, such as the one protesting food aid above, inevitably show the al Nusra flag; when Murad Gazdiev filmed across to eastern Aleppo in October 2016, the only flags showing on the front line were ISIS and al Nusra. ISIS may have officially left Aleppo in 2014, but its spirit lived on, as the footage from Beeley’s footage from the White Helmet base and the Syrian Arab Army’s foray into the National Hospital both reveal. The al Zinki group, which enjoys a special relationship with the White Helmets, apparent in Channel 4’s homage to al Zinki, clearly identifies with ISIS. In September 2016 Eva Bartlett appeared on RT’s Crosstalk, Syria: CEASEFIRE 2.0, and was asked to comment on moderate rebels. ‘It’s a farce. There are no moderate rebels, and this is what Syrians would say if they had a voice. They’re all committing the same crimes, the same heinous acts.’ (at 6:20 mins) Another guest on the programme, Stephen Zunes, took issue with Eva Bartlett, but he was unable to suggest a single group that could be considered moderate. ‘The alphabet soup of differently named Jihadi groups in Syria merely disguises a single continuum of violent Wahhabi Jihadis all committed to the same cause: the overthrow of the Syrian government and the establishment of a sectarian Wahhabi exclusively Sunni state in its place’ ~ Alexander Mercouris. Syrian Voices SSUK’s slogan is #ListentoSyrians. Connolly, however, was clearly unimpressed with Beeley’s endeavours to do exactly that, i.e. listen to Syrians. She calls into question both the veracity and the value of Beeley’s interviews: according to Connolly, ‘they needed extensive commentary from Beeley to yield the sense she wanted’. This is a matter of opinion – while it is true there are no intrusive pieces to camera, most would consider that the clips speak for themselves. No doubt there are others who question Beeley’s interviews, those who will claim that her interviewees are speaking under fear of their lives. It is up to a psychologist to assess whether these claims are consistent with the body language of the people of Aleppo, or with their eagerness to speak of their experiences. However, CNN, the BBC, and organisations such as SSUK could have tested the veracity of the reporting of Vanessa Beeley and RT reporters like Murad Gazdiev and Lizzie Phelam, both before and after liberation, but have chosen not to. They could have arranged to enter the National Hospital to check the findings of the Syrian Arab Army, but failed to do so. What Beeley achieved with a video camera and an interpreter seems quite obvious now, but neither the BBC nor CNN, with all their resources, or SSUK for that matter, have made any attempt to emulate this feat. Connolly’s attack on Beeley is malicious, unresearched and manifestly agenda-driven. Within the murky fog of ignorance willfully created by propaganda from the likes of SSUK, the integrity and intellect of Beeley’s work, and its real contribution to understanding, shine like a beacon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Mar 2 15:58:54 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 15:58:54 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 9:57 AM To: eucenter ; EUC Students ; EUC_FAC-L at LISTSERV.ILLINOIS.EDU; EUC L Subject: CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet When I publicly condemned and blew the whistle on the Political Science Department and two of its Professors for their CIA contract modelling the spread of AIDS in Third World Countries (which I had read, and it called for the two professors to spy for the CIA on their colleagues at Academic Conferences) Diehl lined up the Chair of the Political Science Department Narduli and they both filed a formal Complaint with the Dean of the Law School and other University Officials demanding that I be sanctioned. The CIA on any Campus is truly insidious! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Mar 2 17:53:20 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 17:53:20 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet Message-ID: And of course Manny Donchin, Chairman of our Psychos Department threatened to sue me all up and down the University if I did not apologize for my comments about his CIA contract to develop a lie-detector test using our students as CIA guinea pigs. After I insulted him all up and down the university in return, I then stated I would get compulsory legal discovery against the entire University for their ties with the CIA if he sued me. Manny thanked me for my "apology" and that was the end of the matter. But the CIA on this Campus and any other Campus is truly insidious and completely antithetical to academic integrity and freedom and independence-like Donchin and Diehl and Nardulli and Seitz and Zinnes (spying on their colleagues for the CIA at academic conferences as known to the "PoliSci" Department-just read the contract) and the "Political Science" (an oxymoron to be sure) Department and the Psychos Department. And of course the Big U publicly admitted in our debate that they take 51cents out of every outside $1Buck and bill it off to "overhead." Money talks and Principles walk at the University of Illinois-especially for the CIA and DOD. Yo! Larry Smarr. You sure wrote a nice letter of recommendation for that Dr Strangelove Professor in PoliSci using our NCSA Supercomputer to develop the Next Generation of ICBMs. Darth Smarr! The University of Illinois-at the cutting edge of the nuclear arms race and Armageddon. Where the Motto is: "Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!" Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 9:53 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G ; Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet When I publicly condemned and blew the whistle on the Political Science Department and two of its Professors for their CIA contract modelling the spread of AIDS in Third World Countries (which I had read, and it called for the two professors to spy for the CIA on their colleagues at Academic Conferences) Diehl lined up the Chair of the Political Science Department Narduli and they both filed a formal Complaint with the Dean of the Law School and other University Officials demanding that I be sanctioned. The CIA on any Campus is truly insidious! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Smith, Jeremie Scott [mailto:smith193 at illinois.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 9:32 AM To: CGS-ANNOUNCE-L at LISTSERV.ILLINOIS.EDU Subject: [CGS-Announce-L] Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet [aul Diehl - The United Nations in its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet] The Program in Arms Control & Domestic and International Security Illinois International | University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 350 Armory, MC-533 | 505 East Armory Avenue, Champaign, IL 61820-6237 telephone: 217-333-7086 | fax: 217-333-6270 | email: acdis at illinois.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Mar 2 18:50:44 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 18:50:44 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Manny Donchin: Well if I didn't do it, somebody else would have! Yeah, I think we already heard that argument at Nuremberg? Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 11:53 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G ; Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: RE: CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet And of course Manny Donchin, Chairman of our Psychos Department threatened to sue me all up and down the University if I did not apologize for my comments about his CIA contract to develop a lie-detector test using our students as CIA guinea pigs. After I insulted him all up and down the university in return, I then stated I would get compulsory legal discovery against the entire University for their ties with the CIA if he sued me. Manny thanked me for my "apology" and that was the end of the matter. But the CIA on this Campus and any other Campus is truly insidious and completely antithetical to academic integrity and freedom and independence-like Donchin and Diehl and Nardulli and Seitz and Zinnes (spying on their colleagues for the CIA at academic conferences as known to the "PoliSci" Department-just read the contract) and the "Political Science" (an oxymoron to be sure) Department and the Psychos Department. And of course the Big U publicly admitted in our debate that they take 51cents out of every outside $1Buck and bill it off to "overhead." Money talks and Principles walk at the University of Illinois-especially for the CIA and DOD. Yo! Larry Smarr. You sure wrote a nice letter of recommendation for that Dr Strangelove Professor in PoliSci using our NCSA Supercomputer to develop the Next Generation of ICBMs. Darth Smarr! The University of Illinois-at the cutting edge of the nuclear arms race and Armageddon. Where the Motto is: "Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!" Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 9:53 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > Subject: CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet When I publicly condemned and blew the whistle on the Political Science Department and two of its Professors for their CIA contract modelling the spread of AIDS in Third World Countries (which I had read, and it called for the two professors to spy for the CIA on their colleagues at Academic Conferences) Diehl lined up the Chair of the Political Science Department Narduli and they both filed a formal Complaint with the Dean of the Law School and other University Officials demanding that I be sanctioned. The CIA on any Campus is truly insidious! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Smith, Jeremie Scott [mailto:smith193 at illinois.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 9:32 AM To: CGS-ANNOUNCE-L at LISTSERV.ILLINOIS.EDU Subject: [CGS-Announce-L] Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet [aul Diehl - The United Nations in its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet] The Program in Arms Control & Domestic and International Security Illinois International | University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 350 Armory, MC-533 | 505 East Armory Avenue, Champaign, IL 61820-6237 telephone: 217-333-7086 | fax: 217-333-6270 | email: acdis at illinois.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Thu Mar 2 19:01:53 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 13:01:53 -0600 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Flyer for the demonstration by members and friends of AWARE, Saturday 4 March, 2-4pm, Church & Neil in Champaign In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: President Trump: End U.S. Wars “...provide for the common defence...” BRING ALL U.S. TROOPS AND WEAPONS HOME The U.S. is today making war in at least seven countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. In addition, the 70,000-member U.S. ‘Special Operations Command’ is active in no less than 70% of the countries of the world. Their activities include kidnapping (‘rendition’), torture, and murder. Since World War II, U.S. presidents have killed more than 20 million people in 37 nations. The US continues to be what Martin Luther King called it long ago: “The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.” Why has our government plagued the world with war for more than two generations? The answer is simple and horrible - to protect the profits of the one percent - the American economic elite. When World War II ended in 1945, the U.S. was the only undamaged major country, and controlled the world economy, for the benefit of that one percent. In all the years since, US administrations have been willing to kill people and make war to “maintain the disparity,” as American planners said. As a result, the US government is today engaged in war and war provocations around the world: MIDEAST. Our anti-war group AWARE was established fifteen years ago, after the attacks of 9/11/2001, by citizens of Champaign-Urbana who realized that the US government would use those crimes to justify its already long-standing attempts to exercise military control over the Mideast and its energy resources. The U.S. doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the US a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries - a chokehold which benefits only the American one percent. In 2003 the US illegally invaded Iraq - and killed perhaps a million people for that purpose - and now has thousands of troops and mercenaries throughout the Mideast. UKRAINE. The Obama administration arranged the overthrow of an elected president in Ukraine and helped to install the only European government since WWII to contain Nazis. Then it encouraged an attack on the eastern Ukrainian provinces who refused to submit to the coup, killing thousands. The attack continues, while Russia tries to arrange a cease-fire (Minsk II). The Crimea region, appalled by the coup government, voted to join Russia. E. EUROPE. When East and West Germany were reunited, in 1990, the US promised it would not extend NATO into Eastern Europe. But the Clinton administration broke that promise, and NATO advanced to the Russian border. In his last days in office, President Obama sent troops and tanks into Poland. The last national leader to do that was Hitler: Russia, attacked through Poland in both WWI and WWII, was understandably alarmed. S. CHINA SEA. President Obama in 2011 said that creating an American presence in the Asia Pacific was his "top priority.” His “pivot to Asia” is a US military build-up that threatens China’s trade routes, but for America's arms industry, the prize is huge profits. And the danger of confrontation grows by the day. * * * The US government says we’re fighting terrorism, but we are in fact creating terrorists - in response particularly to the drone assassinations, “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - which have killed more than 5,000 people, including US citizens and hundreds of children. William Blum (author of “Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II”) writes, “If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize - very publicly and very sincerely - to all the widows and the orphans, the impoverished and the tortured, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. I would then announce that America's global interventions - including the awful bombings - have come to an end. And I would inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the union but – oddly enough – a foreign country. I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims and repair the damage from the many American bombings and invasions...” ANTI-WAR ANTI-RACISM EFFORT - on Facebook at US troops & weapons out of the Mideast! ~ Medicare for all! ~ Universal basic income! ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Fri Mar 3 03:38:05 2017 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 21:38:05 -0600 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: World Labor Hour Sat. March 4th Message-ID: <009301d293cf$95431300$bfc93900$@comcast.net> WORLD LABOR HOUR SATURDAY MARCH 4th 11 AM - 1 PM Central Time 104.5 FM and webcast LIVE worldwide at www.wrfu.net ALICIA BECK - Candidate for the upcoming Champaign City Council election will be live in the studio to talk about her campaign. JOHN REIMANN - Will call in from Oakland Ca. to analyze Trump's speech and why we should be concerned. Stay tuned after the World Labor Hour for THE UNION EDGE, broadcast from Pittsburgh Pa. with Host Charles Showalter. WRFU - Radio Free Urbana - corporate free radio for the people -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Mar 3 13:38:13 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 13:38:13 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I wanted to make one more point about the insidious and nefarious role played by the CIA and its professorial Assets like Diehl on this Campus-or any other campus for that matter. Donchin's CIA contract to develop a lie-detector test for them (which I read) called for him to use our students as his guinea pigs. I could never determine whether they and their parents were informed that Donchin was using them as CIA Guinea Pigs. But since this contract on its face alone called for the use of human beings, it had to be approved by the UI's internal Institutional Review Board for Experiments involving Human Beings that consisted of other UI professors. (We have a separate IRB for experiments involving animals.) So notice the UI/IRB/Human/Professors approved Donchin's CIA contract using our students as CIA Guinea Pigs despite the long, documented well known, and notorious history of the CIA abusing and misusing psychology and psychiatry and involving psychologists and psychiatrists for its own nefarious and insidious purposes until today. And speaking of the CIA abusing and misusing psychology and psychologists etc until today: I would like to know if the CIA used Donchin's lie detector test involving our students as guinea pigs at Abu Ghraib, or Kandahar, or Gitmo or at any other location in the CIA's Gulag Archipelago of "Black sites" after 9/11/2001 that still continues until today (see Jeremy Scahill's book) and that Trump has said he approves of. In any event, Diehl is just a typical Academic CIA Asset. All campuses have them. We need to out them. Sunlight is the Best Disinfectant for these Academic Rats. Fab. Fab. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 12:51 PM To: Estabrook, Carl G ; Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: RE: CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet Manny Donchin: Well if I didn't do it, somebody else would have! Yeah, I think we already heard that argument at Nuremberg? Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 11:53 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > Subject: RE: CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet And of course Manny Donchin, Chairman of our Psychos Department threatened to sue me all up and down the University if I did not apologize for my comments about his CIA contract to develop a lie-detector test using our students as CIA guinea pigs. After I insulted him all up and down the university in return, I then stated I would get compulsory legal discovery against the entire University for their ties with the CIA if he sued me. Manny thanked me for my "apology" and that was the end of the matter. But the CIA on this Campus and any other Campus is truly insidious and completely antithetical to academic integrity and freedom and independence-like Donchin and Diehl and Nardulli and Seitz and Zinnes (spying on their colleagues for the CIA at academic conferences as known to the "PoliSci" Department-just read the contract) and the "Political Science" (an oxymoron to be sure) Department and the Psychos Department. And of course the Big U publicly admitted in our debate that they take 51cents out of every outside $1Buck and bill it off to "overhead." Money talks and Principles walk at the University of Illinois-especially for the CIA and DOD. Yo! Larry Smarr. You sure wrote a nice letter of recommendation for that Dr Strangelove Professor in PoliSci using our NCSA Supercomputer to develop the Next Generation of ICBMs. Darth Smarr! The University of Illinois-at the cutting edge of the nuclear arms race and Armageddon. Where the Motto is: "Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!" Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 9:53 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > Subject: CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet When I publicly condemned and blew the whistle on the Political Science Department and two of its Professors for their CIA contract modelling the spread of AIDS in Third World Countries (which I had read, and it called for the two professors to spy for the CIA on their colleagues at Academic Conferences) Diehl lined up the Chair of the Political Science Department Narduli and they both filed a formal Complaint with the Dean of the Law School and other University Officials demanding that I be sanctioned. The CIA on any Campus is truly insidious! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Smith, Jeremie Scott [mailto:smith193 at illinois.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 9:32 AM To: CGS-ANNOUNCE-L at LISTSERV.ILLINOIS.EDU Subject: [CGS-Announce-L] Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet [aul Diehl - The United Nations in its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet] The Program in Arms Control & Domestic and International Security Illinois International | University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 350 Armory, MC-533 | 505 East Armory Avenue, Champaign, IL 61820-6237 telephone: 217-333-7086 | fax: 217-333-6270 | email: acdis at illinois.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Mar 3 14:25:08 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 14:25:08 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet References: Message-ID: And notice: Since I exposed and condemned CIA Professors on this Campus, Donchin threatened to sue me and Diehl and Nardulli (then Chair of PoliSci Department) demanded from almost every academic administrator on this campus that I be sanctioned. That should give you a pretty good idea of the insidious and nefarious role that the CIA, CIA Professors and CIA Assets play on this campus and every other campus in this country. But as I found from my own personal experience dealing with the CIA and these CIA Academic Rats, sunlight is the best disinfectant. When you expose them as CIA Assets, they scurry back into their Academic Ratholes. CIA OFF CAMPUS! Fab. ArabLawyer at yahoogroups.com [mailto:ArabLawyer at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sahar Aziz Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 8:50 AM To: undisclosed-recipients Subject: [ArabLawyer] AAN: Article on civil rights attorney on terrorist watch list http://www.arabamericannews.com/news/index.php?mod=article&cat=Community&article=4627 Prominent attorney who refused to betray Arab and Muslim clients speaks on civil liberties, life on terror watch list By Nick Meyer Sunday, 08.21.2011, 02:25am The attorney-client privilege assuring confidentiality between the two parties is one of the most cherished rights of the American law system, but according to internationally recognized lawyer, author and professor Francis A. Boyle of the the University of Illinois-Champaign, government agents violated that privilege in a jarring summer 2004 visit. Speaking to The Arab American News, Boyle confirmed recent reports that he was visited by two agents from a joint FBI-CIA anti-terrorist fusion center located about a 90-minute drive away in Springfield, Ill. in his office in Champaign, who attempted to persuade him to become an informant on his Arab American and American Muslim clients. He said he repeatedly refused their requests to violate his clients' constitutional rights, only to find himself placed on the U.S. Government's terrorist watch list. "There's five or six of them, and my lawyer informed me that I'm on all of them," Boyle said "I filed an appeal but they told me, sorry, I would stay on the watch list forever until the agencies that put me on there took me off." Boyle, who has represented several high profile Arab and Muslim clients in the past, also said the agents repeatedly questioned him about interviews he has given in various international media outlets that were critical of U.S. foreign policy towards Arab and Muslim countries. Similar reports have also come out including a recent one about agents allegedly spying on University of Michigan professor and writer Juan Cole. Boyle's visit began innocently enough as the two agents introduced themselves to Boyle's secretary, he said. They identified themselves as businessmen who wanted to speak with him about matters of international law and were wearing suits and ties, looking reputable. Boyle let them in. "They misrepresented who they are and what they're about to my secretary," Boyle said. They also gave him no indication that Boyle would be placed on the terrorist watch list after leaving what Boyle called a "nearly hour-long interrogation." Speaking of interrogations, Boyle was subjected to one an hour and a half long upon returning from a lecture in Canada at the end of the summer of 2004. The pattern has continued for Boyle, who has a Ph.D in Political Science from Harvard University specializing in International Relations and has authored books such as "Biowarfare and Terrorism," which links the U.S. biowarfare development to the October 2001 post-9/11 anthrax attack on Congress, and "The Palestinian Right to Return Under International Law," which was released in March 2011. "I was flying in from Malaysia and two armed federal agents on the jet port saw me and my passport and took me into custody; they said 'You're coming with us,' and two guys with guns you're not going to argue with," he said. "After searching me they said they were looking for someone on the watch list but not you, of course; how many Francis Anthony Boyles are there in America?" Other extensive searches of Boyle occurred in Switzerland and Chicago. He's still waiting for an explanation as to why he was placed on the terrorism watch list and concerned about the future. "I'm not supposed to talk about clients' business to anyone let alone to become an informant on them, that violates their constitutional rights and also my ethical obligations as an attorney to maintain privacy," Boyle said. "Whether you like lawyers or not, we're sort of the canaries in the mineshaft of democracy, the first line of defense." An article in Criminal Justice Magazine in Summer 2002 said that immediately following the September 11 attacks against the U.S., then-Attorney General John Ashcroft issued a controversial order that permits the government to monitor all communications between client and attorney when there is 'reasonable suspicion' to 'believe that a particular inmate may use communications with attorneys or their agents to further or facilitate acts of violence or terrorism.' The order raises constitutional concerns under the First, Fourth Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments according to authors Paul Rice and Benjamin Saul. Boyle believes that the rights of attorneys and anti-war critics as well are under attack, as is the Constitution in general as many analysts have been saying. "They've gone after many other lawyers, and what they did to Juan Cole doesn't surprise me either," Boyle said. "We're living in a police state now and what people really need to understand, especially Arabs and Muslims, is that the police are not their friends," Boyle said. "No Arab or Muslim should talk to the FBI without a lawyer present, you have to be very careful dealing with these people." Boyle noted that about 1,200 non-citizens were rounded up immediately after the 9/11 attacks and that the only charges brought against them were actually for routine immigration violations or in some cases ordinary crimes as asserted in the 165-page report "America's Challenge" about civil liberties, domestic security and national unity after the attacks, released by the Washington-based Migration Policy Institute. More than one million people are currently on watch lists according to a USA Today report in 2009, but Boyle believes he's in more exclusive company on a list of about 5,000 people who were asked to be informants. Guarding against unjust tactics in the name of security is something that should drive Arab Americans and Muslims, and others, he said. "Arabs and Muslims and their supporters have to get organized and stop assuming the FBI is their friend, and to set up watch committees and inform themselves as to their rights under the law., and fight back in court," he said. "It's only going to get worse...the FBI and the CIA are completely out of anyone's control. And Arabs and Muslims are going to have to sit down and figure out how to combat this," he said. Boyle said they should band together to demand that the Department of Justice re-institute the Edward Hirsch Levy Guidelines, which terminated the FBI COINTEL spying program and were revoked after 9/11 by then-Attorney General John Ashcroft. He also said the communities need more lawyers and journalists to fight on their behalf. He remains concerned about the possibility of retribution against he and others should another attack occur but plans to remain firm in his commitment to his country and its ideals of freedom. "It feels sort of like a loaded gun sitting there," he said. "But I was born here and I will stay here as a U.S. citizen, and stand and fight for the rights and future of this country." -- Sahar Aziz Associate Professor of Law Texas Wesleyan University School of Law (202) 455-0063 saziz at saharazizlaw.com www.saharazizlaw.com Follow me on Twitter: @saharazizlaw www.twitter.com/saharazizlaw http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=548232274 See my latest article: Citizens, Not Subjects: Debunking the Sectarian Narrative of the Pro-Democracy Movement in Bahrain http://www.ispu.org/detailed_publication.php?type=reports&id=640 View my research on my SSRN Author page: http://ssrn.com/author=1459001 This email message, including any attachments, may be a privileged and confidential communication. 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Groups] Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __, Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: ArabLawyer at yahoogroups.com [mailto:ArabLawyer at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sahar Aziz Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 8:50 AM To: undisclosed-recipients Subject: [ArabLawyer] AAN: Article on civil rights attorney on terrorist watch list http://www.arabamericannews.com/news/index.php?mod=article&cat=Community&article=4627 Prominent attorney who refused to betray Arab and Muslim clients speaks on civil liberties, life on terror watch list By Nick Meyer Sunday, 08.21.2011, 02:25am The attorney-client privilege assuring confidentiality between the two parties is one of the most cherished rights of the American law system, but according to internationally recognized lawyer, author and professor Francis A. Boyle of the the University of Illinois-Champaign, government agents violated that privilege in a jarring summer 2004 visit. Speaking to The Arab American News, Boyle confirmed recent reports that he was visited by two agents from a joint FBI-CIA anti-terrorist fusion center located about a 90-minute drive away in Springfield, Ill. in his office in Champaign, who attempted to persuade him to become an informant on his Arab American and American Muslim clients. He said he repeatedly refused their requests to violate his clients' constitutional rights, only to find himself placed on the U.S. Government's terrorist watch list. "There's five or six of them, and my lawyer informed me that I'm on all of them," Boyle said "I filed an appeal but they told me, sorry, I would stay on the watch list forever until the agencies that put me on there took me off." Boyle, who has represented several high profile Arab and Muslim clients in the past, also said the agents repeatedly questioned him about interviews he has given in various international media outlets that were critical of U.S. foreign policy towards Arab and Muslim countries. Similar reports have also come out including a recent one about agents allegedly spying on University of Michigan professor and writer Juan Cole. Boyle's visit began innocently enough as the two agents introduced themselves to Boyle's secretary, he said. They identified themselves as businessmen who wanted to speak with him about matters of international law and were wearing suits and ties, looking reputable. Boyle let them in. "They misrepresented who they are and what they're about to my secretary," Boyle said. They also gave him no indication that Boyle would be placed on the terrorist watch list after leaving what Boyle called a "nearly hour-long interrogation." Speaking of interrogations, Boyle was subjected to one an hour and a half long upon returning from a lecture in Canada at the end of the summer of 2004. The pattern has continued for Boyle, who has a Ph.D in Political Science from Harvard University specializing in International Relations and has authored books such as "Biowarfare and Terrorism," which links the U.S. biowarfare development to the October 2001 post-9/11 anthrax attack on Congress, and "The Palestinian Right to Return Under International Law," which was released in March 2011. "I was flying in from Malaysia and two armed federal agents on the jet port saw me and my passport and took me into custody; they said 'You're coming with us,' and two guys with guns you're not going to argue with," he said. "After searching me they said they were looking for someone on the watch list but not you, of course; how many Francis Anthony Boyles are there in America?" Other extensive searches of Boyle occurred in Switzerland and Chicago. He's still waiting for an explanation as to why he was placed on the terrorism watch list and concerned about the future. "I'm not supposed to talk about clients' business to anyone let alone to become an informant on them, that violates their constitutional rights and also my ethical obligations as an attorney to maintain privacy," Boyle said. "Whether you like lawyers or not, we're sort of the canaries in the mineshaft of democracy, the first line of defense." An article in Criminal Justice Magazine in Summer 2002 said that immediately following the September 11 attacks against the U.S., then-Attorney General John Ashcroft issued a controversial order that permits the government to monitor all communications between client and attorney when there is 'reasonable suspicion' to 'believe that a particular inmate may use communications with attorneys or their agents to further or facilitate acts of violence or terrorism.' The order raises constitutional concerns under the First, Fourth Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments according to authors Paul Rice and Benjamin Saul. Boyle believes that the rights of attorneys and anti-war critics as well are under attack, as is the Constitution in general as many analysts have been saying. "They've gone after many other lawyers, and what they did to Juan Cole doesn't surprise me either," Boyle said. "We're living in a police state now and what people really need to understand, especially Arabs and Muslims, is that the police are not their friends," Boyle said. "No Arab or Muslim should talk to the FBI without a lawyer present, you have to be very careful dealing with these people." Boyle noted that about 1,200 non-citizens were rounded up immediately after the 9/11 attacks and that the only charges brought against them were actually for routine immigration violations or in some cases ordinary crimes as asserted in the 165-page report "America's Challenge" about civil liberties, domestic security and national unity after the attacks, released by the Washington-based Migration Policy Institute. More than one million people are currently on watch lists according to a USA Today report in 2009, but Boyle believes he's in more exclusive company on a list of about 5,000 people who were asked to be informants. Guarding against unjust tactics in the name of security is something that should drive Arab Americans and Muslims, and others, he said. "Arabs and Muslims and their supporters have to get organized and stop assuming the FBI is their friend, and to set up watch committees and inform themselves as to their rights under the law., and fight back in court," he said. "It's only going to get worse...the FBI and the CIA are completely out of anyone's control. And Arabs and Muslims are going to have to sit down and figure out how to combat this," he said. Boyle said they should band together to demand that the Department of Justice re-institute the Edward Hirsch Levy Guidelines, which terminated the FBI COINTEL spying program and were revoked after 9/11 by then-Attorney General John Ashcroft. He also said the communities need more lawyers and journalists to fight on their behalf. He remains concerned about the possibility of retribution against he and others should another attack occur but plans to remain firm in his commitment to his country and its ideals of freedom. "It feels sort of like a loaded gun sitting there," he said. "But I was born here and I will stay here as a U.S. citizen, and stand and fight for the rights and future of this country." -- Sahar Aziz Associate Professor of Law Texas Wesleyan University School of Law (202) 455-0063 saziz at saharazizlaw.com www.saharazizlaw.com Follow me on Twitter: @saharazizlaw www.twitter.com/saharazizlaw http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=548232274 See my latest article: Citizens, Not Subjects: Debunking the Sectarian Narrative of the Pro-Democracy Movement in Bahrain http://www.ispu.org/detailed_publication.php?type=reports&id=640 View my research on my SSRN Author page: http://ssrn.com/author=1459001 This email message, including any attachments, may be a privileged and confidential communication. 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Groups] Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __, Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 7:38 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G ; Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: RE: CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet I wanted to make one more point about the insidious and nefarious role played by the CIA and its professorial Assets like Diehl on this Campus—or any other campus for that matter. Donchin’s CIA contract to develop a lie-detector test for them (which I read) called for him to use our students as his guinea pigs. I could never determine whether they and their parents were informed that Donchin was using them as CIA Guinea Pigs. But since this contract on its face alone called for the use of human beings, it had to be approved by the UI’s internal Institutional Review Board for Experiments involving Human Beings that consisted of other UI professors. (We have a separate IRB for experiments involving animals.) So notice the UI/IRB/Human/Professors approved Donchin’s CIA contract using our students as CIA Guinea Pigs despite the long, documented well known, and notorious history of the CIA abusing and misusing psychology and psychiatry and involving psychologists and psychiatrists for its own nefarious and insidious purposes until today. And speaking of the CIA abusing and misusing psychology and psychologists etc until today: I would like to know if the CIA used Donchin’s lie detector test involving our students as guinea pigs at Abu Ghraib, or Kandahar, or Gitmo or at any other location in the CIA’s Gulag Archipelago of “Black sites” after 9/11/2001 that still continues until today (see Jeremy Scahill’s book) and that Trump has said he approves of. In any event, Diehl is just a typical Academic CIA Asset. All campuses have them. We need to out them. Sunlight is the Best Disinfectant for these Academic Rats. Fab. Fab. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 12:51 PM To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > Subject: RE: CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet Manny Donchin: Well if I didn’t do it, somebody else would have! Yeah, I think we already heard that argument at Nuremberg? Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 11:53 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > Subject: RE: CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet And of course Manny Donchin, Chairman of our Psychos Department threatened to sue me all up and down the University if I did not apologize for my comments about his CIA contract to develop a lie-detector test using our students as CIA guinea pigs. After I insulted him all up and down the university in return, I then stated I would get compulsory legal discovery against the entire University for their ties with the CIA if he sued me. Manny thanked me for my “apology” and that was the end of the matter. But the CIA on this Campus and any other Campus is truly insidious and completely antithetical to academic integrity and freedom and independence—like Donchin and Diehl and Nardulli and Seitz and Zinnes (spying on their colleagues for the CIA at academic conferences as known to the “PoliSci” Department—just read the contract) and the “Political Science” (an oxymoron to be sure) Department and the Psychos Department. And of course the Big U publicly admitted in our debate that they take 51cents out of every outside $1Buck and bill it off to “overhead.” Money talks and Principles walk at the University of Illinois—especially for the CIA and DOD. Yo! Larry Smarr. You sure wrote a nice letter of recommendation for that Dr Strangelove Professor in PoliSci using our NCSA Supercomputer to develop the Next Generation of ICBMs. Darth Smarr! The University of Illinois—at the cutting edge of the nuclear arms race and Armageddon. Where the Motto is: “Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!” Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 9:53 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > Subject: CIA Supporter/Asset Paul Diehl - March 7 - The United Nations in Its 8th Decade: Constructing a Balance Sheet When I publicly condemned and blew the whistle on the Political Science Department and two of its Professors for their CIA contract modelling the spread of AIDS in Third World Countries (which I had read, and it called for the two professors to spy for the CIA on their colleagues at Academic Conferences) Diehl lined up the Chair of the Political Science Department Narduli and they both filed a formal Complaint with the Dean of the Law School and other University Officials demanding that I be sanctioned. 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[mailto:accuracy at accuracy.org] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 8:37 AM To: francis.a.boyle at gmail.com Subject: Drone Resisters Acquitted, Juror Tells Them: "Keep Doing It" -- Interviews Available [http://app.meltwaterpress.com/mpress/statistic.html?accessCode=ba1648e102173a2f904204452fee1f5ced19cee2&distributionId=522737&contact=francis.a.boyle at gmail.com] Drone Resisters Acquitted, Juror Tells Them: "Keep Doing It" The Washington Post reports: "The United States conducted a series of airstrikes on al-Qaeda targets in Yemen on Thursday, the Pentagon said, in another sign of the Trump administration’s expanding counterterrorism campaign there." See from Micah Zenko of the Council on Foreign Relations: "The (Not-So) Peaceful Transition of Power: Trump’s Drone Strikes Outpace Obama." JAMES RICKS, cell: (607) 280-7794, chavoc32 at gmail.com ED KINANE, (315) 478-4571, edkinane at verizon.net BRIAN HYNES, (718) 838-2636, brianhynes at verizon.net The group UpstateDroneAction.org released a statement Friday morning: "Four drone resisters, James Ricks, Daniel Burns, Brian Hynes, and Ed Kinane, from the 2015 big books action were found innocent of all charges at 11 p.m. at the Dewitt Town Court. After deliberating for only about a half hour, the jury returned with a verdict of not guilty on all charges. Applause erupted in the courtroom upon the jurors’ announcement of the verdict. The four were charged with obstruction of government administration, disorderly conduct, and trespass and faced a year in jail. Following the rendering of the verdict, a juror approached Brian Hynes and said 'I really support what you are doing. Keep doing it.' "During the trial, Brian Hynes told the jury, 'This is not a case about contested facts, this is a case about contested meanings.' Hynes went on to explain to the jury that they could, in the words of the 4th Circuit of Appeals, acquit for any reason which appeals to their logic or passion. In powerful testimony, James Ricks told the jury about meeting the families of drone victims and seeing the wreckage of hellfire missiles. Jurors were brought to tears several times. Daniel Joseph Burns said, 'Would any of us deem it acceptable for our precious loved ones to be sacrificed for another nation’s anticipatory self-defense? Of course not! Moreover, if drones were being aimed at my children by another country, I would hope with all my might that the citizens of that country might try and stop their country’s illegal and immoral actions.' Ed Kinane told the jury in clear and powerful language about his time living in Iraq during the war and about the terror sown by drones... "The trial resulted from an action on March 19, 2015. On the 12th anniversary of the U.S.’ illegal invasion of Iraq, seven members of the Upstate Coalition to Ground the Drones and End the Wars shut the main gate of the Hancock Drone Ba-e (near Syracuse, NY) with a giant copy of the UN Charter and three other giant books – Dirty Wars (Jeremy Scahill), "Living Under Drones" (NYU and Stanford Law Schools), and "You Never Die Twice" (Reprieve). [https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif] "The nonviolent activists also held a banner quoting Article 6 of the U.S. Constitution, stating that every treaty signed becomes the supreme law of the land. They brought the books to Hancock to remind everyone at the base of the signed treaties that prohibit the killing of civilians and assassinations of human beings. The group attempted yet again to deliver a citizens’ indictment for war crimes to the Hancock Air base chain of command." For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020, (202) 421-6858; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167 March 3, 2017 Institute for Public Accuracy 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org * ipa at accuracy.org Disclaimer: This email was sent to francis.a.boyle at gmail.com Institute for Public Accuracy, 980 National Press Building, Washington, DC, 20045, United States -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Mar 3 14:52:13 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 14:52:13 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Killer Koh & Racist Illinois Nazis Law Faculty v. Drone Resisters Acquitted, Juror Tells Them: "Keep Doing It" -- Interviews Available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: DECLARATION OF FRANCIS A. BOYLE Pursuant to 28 USC 1746, Francis A. Boyle declares under penalty of perjury: 1. I am a Professor of Law at the University of Illinois College of Law in Champaign, Illinois. I hold a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School and an A.M. and Ph.D. in Political Science from the Harvard Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, Department of Government, where I specialized in International Political Science and its relationship to International Law. I graduated from the same Harvard Ph.D. Program that produced Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Samuel Huntington et al. before me. My resume is attached to this Declaration and is hereby incorporated by reference. 2. I am an expert in International Law and Foreign Policy. I have studied, read, taught, and written extensively in these areas, and have been qualified as an expert witness in several courts across the country and abroad. I also currently teach a course on The Constitutional Law of U.S. Foreign Affairs. Previously, I taught the course here on Criminal Law for several years. 3. I have been qualified as an Expert and testified in U.S. military court-martial proceedings involving (1) U.S.M.C. Corporal Jeff Paterson (1990); (2) U.S. Army Captain Doctor Yolanda Huet-Vaugn (1991); (3) U.S. Army Captain Lawrence Rockwood (1995); (4) U.S. Army Reserve Staff Sergeant Camilo Mejia (2003); and (5) U.S. Army First Lieutenant Ehren Watada (2006). 4. In 1983 the United States Military Academy at West Point invited me to lecture and debate before their 21st Senior Conference on Nuclear Deterrence on the subject of Nuclear Deterrence and International Law. The audience consisted of about 200 high-level officials from the United States government in charge of U.S. nuclear weapons policies, both military and civilian. Sitting in the audience for my entire presentation was the 3-Star General in charge of War Operations at the Pentagon. 5. Starting in October of 2001, the United States war against Afghanistan has been and still is an illegal war of aggression that violates the United Nations Charter (1945), the Nuremberg Charter (1945), the Nuremberg Judgment (1946), and the Nuremberg Principles (1950). Therefore the U.S. war against Afghanistan constitutes a Nuremberg Crime against Peace against the State of Afghanistan, its Taliban Government, Taliban government officials, Taliban combatants, and the citizens of Afghanistan. The reasons for these conclusions are set forth in two scholarly essays I have published: George Bush, Jr., September 11 and the Rule of Law, in my book The Criminality of Nuclear Deterrence 16-39 (Clarity Press: 2002); and No War Against Afghanistan!, in my book Tackling America’s Toughest Questions 24-38 (Clarity Press: 2009). I have attached copies of these essays to this Declaration and hereby incorporate them by reference. 6. In addition, I also wish to draw to the Court’s attention the memoirs by Richard A. Clark, Chairman of the Counter-terrorism Security Group at the White House under President George Bush Jr. on September 11, 2001, Against All Enemies (2004), at page 24: “When later in the discussion [on the evening of Sept. 11, with Bush and his crisis advisors], Secretary Rumsfeld noted that international law allowed the use of force only to prevent future attacks and not for retribution, Bush nearly bit his head off. ‘No,’ the President yelled in the narrow conference room, ‘I don’t care what the international lawyers say, we are going to kick some ass.’” (Emphasis added.) 7. The Nuremberg Crime Against Peace has been expressly incorporated into Department of the Army Field Manual 27-10, The Law of Land Warfare (1956), which in relevant part provides as follows: Section II. CRIMES UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW 498. Crimes Under International Law Any person, whether a member of the armed forces or a civilian, who commits an act which constitutes a crime under international law is responsible therefor and liable to punishment. Such offenses in connection with war comprise: a. Crimes against peace. b. Crimes against humanity. c. War crimes. …. 8. U.S. Army Field Manual 27-10 (1956) was drafted for the United States Army by then Major Richard R. Baxter. Professor Baxter later taught me his course on The Laws of War at Harvard Law School. I was the top student in his class and Professor Baxter recommended me for my current position as a law professor. Professor Baxter was later elected a Judge on the International Court of Justice, the so-called World Court of the United Nations System. While he was alive, Professor Baxter was generally considered to be the world’s leading expert on the Laws of War. 9. Therefore, I am uniquely qualified to testify concerning the relevance of the Laws of War to these proceedings. The Defendants have asked me to testify. I have agreed to testify. I hereby respectfully request this Honorable Court to permit me to testify at this trial. 10. Since the terrible terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, the United Government and its Armed Forces and the Central Intelligence Agency have operated in accordance with the Doctrine of the Global Battlefield. Pursuant thereto, the United States Government, United States Armed Forces as well as the Central Intelligence Agency will target and have targeted with deadly force including and especially by means of drones supposed combatants anywhere in the world: And even if the supposed combatants are far from any field of battle. And even if the supposed combatants are sleeping in their beds at home at night with their wives and their children far from any field of battle. And even if the supposed combatants are citizens of the United States of America. 11. These and other U.S. targeting doctrines for the declared U.S. Global Battlefield Doctrine by means of drones and otherwise constitute Crimes against Peace, Crimes against Humanity, and War Crimes. 12. Wherefore I most respectfully request this Honorable Court to permit me to testify in these proceedings. 13. I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct. I am prepared to testify under oath and answer questions on these and related matters. Most respectfully submitted by, FRANCIS ANTHONY BOYLE Professor of Law University of Illinois College of Law Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) Signed this 23rd day of January 2014, at Champaign, Illinois Attachments . Since the terrible terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, the United Government and its Armed Forces and the Central Intelligence Agency have operated in accordance with the Doctrine of the Global Battlefield. Pursuant thereto, the United States Government, United States Armed Forces as well as the Central Intelligence Agency will target and have targeted with deadly force supposed combatants anywhere in the world: And even if the supposed combatants are far from any field of battle. And even if the supposed combatants are sleeping in their beds at home at night with their wives and their children far from any field of battle. And even if the supposed combatants are citizens of the United States of America. And apparently even if the supposed combatants are located within the United States of America. 11. These U.S. targeting doctrines for the declared U.S. Global Battlefield Doctrine have been officially authorized, approved, and justified by, among others: 1. President Barack Obama, Commander-in-Chief of United States Armed Forces under Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution and thus Commander-in-Chief of everyone involved in these proceedings except for civilians.. President Obama is a distinguished graduate of the Harvard Law School and used to teach law at the University of Chicago Law School. 2. U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, including but not limited to a March 2012 speech he delivered at Northwestern Law School in Chicago, Illinois at the specific request of their Dean Daniel Rodriguez and for which he received standing ovations by the Northwestern Law Professors in attendance. 3. General Counsel for the U.S. Department of Defense, Mr. Jeh Johnson. 4. Legal Adviser to the United States Department of State, Yale Law Dean and Law Professor Harold Koh, who has now returned to teach at Yale Law School. 5. Mr. John Brennan, Counter-terrorism Advisor to President Obama at the White House and now Director of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency as confirmed by the United States Senate. 6. Two Law Professors working for the Department of Justice, Office of Legal Counsel: Harvard Law Professor David Barron, who has now returned to teach at Harvard Law School; and Georgetown Law Professor Martin Lederman, who has now returned to teach at Georgetown Law School. 7. Numerous Members of the Honorable United States House of Representatives and Numerous Members of the Honorable United States Senate, many of whom are distinguished Lawyers with substantial Legal Experience and Credentials. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 8:45 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G ; Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: Killer Koh & Racist Illinois Nazis Law Faculty v. Drone Resisters Acquitted, Juror Tells Them: "Keep Doing It" -- Interviews Available Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Institute for Public Accuracy . [mailto:accuracy at accuracy.org] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 8:37 AM To: francis.a.boyle at gmail.com Subject: Drone Resisters Acquitted, Juror Tells Them: "Keep Doing It" -- Interviews Available [http://app.meltwaterpress.com/mpress/statistic.html?accessCode=ba1648e102173a2f904204452fee1f5ced19cee2&distributionId=522737&contact=francis.a.boyle at gmail.com] Drone Resisters Acquitted, Juror Tells Them: "Keep Doing It" The Washington Post reports: "The United States conducted a series of airstrikes on al-Qaeda targets in Yemen on Thursday, the Pentagon said, in another sign of the Trump administration’s expanding counterterrorism campaign there." See from Micah Zenko of the Council on Foreign Relations: "The (Not-So) Peaceful Transition of Power: Trump’s Drone Strikes Outpace Obama." JAMES RICKS, cell: (607) 280-7794, chavoc32 at gmail.com ED KINANE, (315) 478-4571, edkinane at verizon.net BRIAN HYNES, (718) 838-2636, brianhynes at verizon.net The group UpstateDroneAction.org released a statement Friday morning: "Four drone resisters, James Ricks, Daniel Burns, Brian Hynes, and Ed Kinane, from the 2015 big books action were found innocent of all charges at 11 p.m. at the Dewitt Town Court. After deliberating for only about a half hour, the jury returned with a verdict of not guilty on all charges. Applause erupted in the courtroom upon the jurors’ announcement of the verdict. The four were charged with obstruction of government administration, disorderly conduct, and trespass and faced a year in jail. Following the rendering of the verdict, a juror approached Brian Hynes and said 'I really support what you are doing. Keep doing it.' "During the trial, Brian Hynes told the jury, 'This is not a case about contested facts, this is a case about contested meanings.' Hynes went on to explain to the jury that they could, in the words of the 4th Circuit of Appeals, acquit for any reason which appeals to their logic or passion. In powerful testimony, James Ricks told the jury about meeting the families of drone victims and seeing the wreckage of hellfire missiles. Jurors were brought to tears several times. Daniel Joseph Burns said, 'Would any of us deem it acceptable for our precious loved ones to be sacrificed for another nation’s anticipatory self-defense? Of course not! Moreover, if drones were being aimed at my children by another country, I would hope with all my might that the citizens of that country might try and stop their country’s illegal and immoral actions.' Ed Kinane told the jury in clear and powerful language about his time living in Iraq during the war and about the terror sown by drones... "The trial resulted from an action on March 19, 2015. On the 12th anniversary of the U.S.’ illegal invasion of Iraq, seven members of the Upstate Coalition to Ground the Drones and End the Wars shut the main gate of the Hancock Drone Ba-e (near Syracuse, NY) with a giant copy of the UN Charter and three other giant books – Dirty Wars (Jeremy Scahill), "Living Under Drones" (NYU and Stanford Law Schools), and "You Never Die Twice" (Reprieve). [https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif] "The nonviolent activists also held a banner quoting Article 6 of the U.S. Constitution, stating that every treaty signed becomes the supreme law of the land. They brought the books to Hancock to remind everyone at the base of the signed treaties that prohibit the killing of civilians and assassinations of human beings. The group attempted yet again to deliver a citizens’ indictment for war crimes to the Hancock Air base chain of command." For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020, (202) 421-6858; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167 March 3, 2017 Institute for Public Accuracy 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org * ipa at accuracy.org Disclaimer: This email was sent to francis.a.boyle at gmail.com Institute for Public Accuracy, 980 National Press Building, Washington, DC, 20045, United States -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Knowing them as I do since August 21, 1978, there will be a next time. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 10:11 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G ; Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: Killer Koh & Racist Illinois Nazis Law Faculty v.Ploughshares Group Spills Own Blood At Anti-Drone Protest At GCSB HQ May the Blood of All The Drone Murdered Dead Be on the Heads of the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: globenet at yahoogroups.com [mailto:globenet at yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 9:15 AM To: GN List Serve > Subject: [globenet] Fw: Ploughshares Group Spills Own Blood At Anti-Drone Protest At GCSB HQ From: ABC Subject: Ploughshares Group Spills Own Blood At Anti-Drone Protest At GCSB HQ (Mailing list information, including how to remove yourself, is located at the end of this message.) http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/90023103/blood-offering-as-group-protests-at-gcsb-over-drone-strikes Anti-Bases Campaign Box 2258, Christchurch 8140, New Zealand abc at chch.planet.org.nz www.converge.org.nz/abc www.facebook.com/AotearoaABC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Mar 3 17:00:37 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 17:00:37 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Killer Koh & Racist Illinois Nazis Law Faculty v.Ploughshares Group Spills Own Blood At Anti-Drone Protest At GCSB HQ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I should have thought of that, I’ll bring my knife next time. On Mar 3, 2017, at 08:20, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: I guess we should have spilled some of our own blood out there on October 28 in front of the Illinois Nazis Law School Building. Sorry, I did not think of it. But these Ploughshares did. Next time the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty bring in a war criminal to speak I certainly will. Knowing them as I do since August 21, 1978, there will be a next time. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 10:11 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > Subject: Killer Koh & Racist Illinois Nazis Law Faculty v.Ploughshares Group Spills Own Blood At Anti-Drone Protest At GCSB HQ May the Blood of All The Drone Murdered Dead Be on the Heads of the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: globenet at yahoogroups.com [mailto:globenet at yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 9:15 AM To: GN List Serve > Subject: [globenet] Fw: Ploughshares Group Spills Own Blood At Anti-Drone Protest At GCSB HQ From: ABC Subject: Ploughshares Group Spills Own Blood At Anti-Drone Protest At GCSB HQ (Mailing list information, including how to remove yourself, is located at the end of this message.) http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/90023103/blood-offering-as-group-protests-at-gcsb-over-drone-strikes Anti-Bases Campaign Box 2258, Christchurch 8140, New Zealand abc at chch.planet.org.nz www.converge.org.nz/abc www.facebook.com/AotearoaABC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Mar 3 17:09:21 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 17:09:21 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Killer Koh & Racist Illinois Nazis Law Faculty v.Ploughshares Group Spills Own Blood At Anti-Drone Protest At GCSB HQ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks. Much appreciated. No surprise! Or we could do like the NZ Ploughshares did and just find a phlebotomist willing to draw our blood and put it in a vial or two. But for sure. Our blood will be shed the next time the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty bring in a war criminal to speak! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 11:01 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Estabrook, Carl G ; Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: Re: Killer Koh & Racist Illinois Nazis Law Faculty v.Ploughshares Group Spills Own Blood At Anti-Drone Protest At GCSB HQ I should have thought of that, I’ll bring my knife next time. On Mar 3, 2017, at 08:20, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: I guess we should have spilled some of our own blood out there on October 28 in front of the Illinois Nazis Law School Building. Sorry, I did not think of it. But these Ploughshares did. Next time the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty bring in a war criminal to speak I certainly will. Knowing them as I do since August 21, 1978, there will be a next time. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 10:11 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > Subject: Killer Koh & Racist Illinois Nazis Law Faculty v.Ploughshares Group Spills Own Blood At Anti-Drone Protest At GCSB HQ May the Blood of All The Drone Murdered Dead Be on the Heads of the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty Forever! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: globenet at yahoogroups.com [mailto:globenet at yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 9:15 AM To: GN List Serve > Subject: [globenet] Fw: Ploughshares Group Spills Own Blood At Anti-Drone Protest At GCSB HQ From: ABC Subject: Ploughshares Group Spills Own Blood At Anti-Drone Protest At GCSB HQ (Mailing list information, including how to remove yourself, is located at the end of this message.) http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/90023103/blood-offering-as-group-protests-at-gcsb-over-drone-strikes Anti-Bases Campaign Box 2258, Christchurch 8140, New Zealand abc at chch.planet.org.nz www.converge.org.nz/abc www.facebook.com/AotearoaABC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Mar 4 14:12:37 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 14:12:37 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Labor issues and imperialist socialists Message-ID: Rant for the day: When American socialists support war in Syria, because "we have to unite with the "rebels" to bring down a Dictator," then spout Marxist rhetoric of uniting the working class around the world, they are supporting US militarism and hegemony. First we have to unite our own working class against the capitalist system, against the "faux unions" who support our Oligarchy, against supporting the US military with our tax dollars, and build a solid foundation here in the US , before we go stumbling around in nations of which we know little about, with our superior "white man's burden" attitudes that "we shall lead them." that some how they need us. The assumption that journalists reporting on conditions elsewhere in the world, leads to efforts at organizing and joining hands is a fantasy, a goal for future perhaps, but given the situation in the US, dating back almost 40 years, a fantasy. To be clear, the WSWS.org suggests uniting in solidarity with working classes around the world, but they also point out the necessity of building working class movements, by limiting our support for wars, and the military in order to do so. See below: As attack on jobs escalates, AFL-CIO chief pledges to “partner” with Trump administration By Jerry White WSWS.Org 4 March 2017 Friday was the last day of work for 1,300 General Motors hourly employees at the GM Detroit-Hamtramck assembly plant. Less than a year after being hired and promised full-time positions by GM and union officials, the workers are out of a job. Medical insurance is running out at the end of the month, and there are few prospects for decent jobs in a city where 117,000 workers are unemployed. The job cuts in Detroit provide a far more realistic picture of the US economy than soaring stock markets or the Fed officials’ fantasies about “full employment.” Yet the layoff of 1,300 workers was not even deemed newsworthy by the local media. It also did not rate a mention by President Trump, who has appointed GM’s CEO to his corporate advisory board. The Detroit job cuts follow more than 2,000 GM layoffs in Lansing, Michigan, and Lordstown, Ohio in January. They anticipate a far greater onslaught as US corporations restructure in response to the global economic slowdown and increasing international competition. In the US, automakers are cutting production due to a growing glut of unsold cars. Commercial aircraft manufacturer Boeing, which cut eight percent of its workforce last year, announced Friday that 1,880 workers had accepted voluntary retirements. The company said more job cuts are expected in 2017 amid falling orders and tight competition with European-based Airbus, which announced 1,200 job cuts a few months ago. A new layoff announcement is made virtually every day in the retail, banking and technology sectors. These are part of an international process. On Wednesday, China’s labor minister, Yin Weimin, said the country will cut another 500,000 steel and coal jobs this year. Last year, 726,000 workers lost their jobs in the coal and steel industries, or 40 percent of the 1.8 million jobs the government said would be eliminated in those industries as part of a massive restructuring of state enterprises. In addition to the job cuts, corporations are seeking to transform their workforces into largely casual, temporary laborers, hired and fired at will, like the Detroit-Hamtramck GM workers. According to the Government Accountability Office, contingent workers now comprise 40.4 percent of all employees. Under Obama, 95 percent of all new jobs created in the US since the so-called economic recovery began have been part-time and temporary. In the European Union, more than half of all new jobs since 2010 have been through temporary contracts. The corporations are also accelerating their plans to dump their pensions and retiree health care obligations and continue to shift the cost of medical coverage on to workers. This month, 22,600 retired coal miners or their widows were notified that they will be losing health care benefits on April 30, when funding for their insurance plans expire. More than one million working or retired Americans are currently covered by pension plans that are in imminent danger of insolvency, according to the Pension Rights Center. The Trump administration, packed with billionaires, is planning to slash corporate taxes and eliminate workplace safety, environmental and labor regulations. In his address to the joint session of Congress on Tuesday, Trump declared that his government has “undertaken a historic effort to massively reduce job crushing regulations.” The increase in military spending outlined in his new budget will be paid for by slashing food stamps and other essential programs, while the ultra-reactionaries appointed to key agencies set their sights on the privatization of public education and the elimination of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. As Wall Street is celebrating the Trump administration’s plans for a massive handout to the corporations and banks, AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka has pledged that his corporatist and anti-working class organization is “absolutely” committed to partnering with Trump. Trump’s fascistic rants against immigrant workers and endless claims that foreign countries and foreign workers are destroying jobs and lowering wages is a calculated effort, aided and abetted by the unions, to divide the working class and block a unified response to the escalation of the class war policies at home and ever greater imperialist militarism abroad. Responding to the speech, Trumka, the president of the AFL-CIO labor federation, told Fox News that the unions were prepared for Trump to “rewrite the rules of the economy,” particularly on trade and immigration policy. Trump’s speech was the president’s “finest moment,” the union head said, signaling that “he’s about to start doing business rather than playing for the camera—that was a good sign.” Far from condemning the president’s xenophobic and racist slanders against immigrants, the AFL-CIO head signaled his support for an even more brutal immigration policy, including against legal residents. “I was actually pleasantly surprised,” Trumka said, “to hear him say the system is broken and its legal immigration, as well as undocumented people—he talked about them a lot—but this was the first time he spoke about legal immigration being used to drive down wages. We’ve been saying that for a long time.” Trumka said that workers voted for the president because “they wanted him to rewrite the rules of the economy—not for the rich, not for the wealthy, not for corporate America, not for Wall Street but for them—and so he’s been a mixed bag on that,” he said. The unions would tout the good things he did and criticize the bad, Trumka said, echoing the lie that trade wars and mass deportation were good for American workers. “Will we partner with him? Absolutely,” Trumka said. “Will we partner with him to try to rewrite the immigration rules of the country? Absolutely… Using the bully pulpit to say this is your country, this is where you owe your allegiance, this is where you should be investing and building, that is a good thing.” The trade unions have been a chief conduit for spreading nationalist poison among workers for a very long time. In the early 1980s, as American capitalism fell into decline and its corporations confronted international competitors, the unions promoted economic nationalism to justify their integration into the structure of corporate management and collusion in the destruction of the jobs and living standards of the workers they claimed to represent. While the unions have worked closely with the Democrats in overseeing the attack on jobs and wages for decades, they now see income opportunities in Trump’s efforts to entice corporations to “Buy American, Hire American.” This has nothing to do with the interests of workers. Rather, the executives want to restore their lost income through the influx of new dues-paying members, regardless of whether they are earning poverty wages. The unions are not “workers’ organizations,” but labor-management syndicates that are hostile to the interests of the working class. New organizations of struggle, including rank-and-file factory and workplace committees, democratically controlled by workers and committed to the methods of the class struggle, must be built to resist the coming attacks on jobs, living standards, essential social services and all the basic social rights of the working class. Above all workers must reject economic nationalism. Workers in every country face the struggles and confront the same enemy: the global capitalist system, which enriches a handful of billionaires at the expense of the broad masses of working people whose collective labor creates society’s riches. To unite the working class—black, white, native born and immigrant, in the US and around the world—workers must build a political movement, independent of both capitalist parties, the Democrats and Republicans, to fight for international socialism and against the danger of world war. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Mar 4 15:19:15 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 15:19:15 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Labor issues and imperialist socialists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "we have to unite with the "rebels" to bring down a Dictator," The International Court of Justice already rejected this argument in the Nicaragua Case (1986) when Reagan used it to justify his support for his contra terrorists. See my book Destroying Libya and World Order (2013) pages 202-203 for the quotation from the Court’s opinion and my analysis. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 8:13 AM To: Peace-discuss ; Peace Subject: [Peace] Labor issues and imperialist socialists Rant for the day: When American socialists support war in Syria, because "we have to unite with the "rebels" to bring down a Dictator," then spout Marxist rhetoric of uniting the working class around the world, they are supporting US militarism and hegemony. First we have to unite our own working class against the capitalist system, against the "faux unions" who support our Oligarchy, against supporting the US military with our tax dollars, and build a solid foundation here in the US , before we go stumbling around in nations of which we know little about, with our superior "white man's burden" attitudes that "we shall lead them." that some how they need us. The assumption that journalists reporting on conditions elsewhere in the world, leads to efforts at organizing and joining hands is a fantasy, a goal for future perhaps, but given the situation in the US, dating back almost 40 years, a fantasy. To be clear, the WSWS.org suggests uniting in solidarity with working classes around the world, but they also point out the necessity of building working class movements, by limiting our support for wars, and the military in order to do so. See below: As attack on jobs escalates, AFL-CIO chief pledges to “partner” with Trump administration By Jerry White WSWS.Org 4 March 2017 Friday was the last day of work for 1,300 General Motors hourly employees at the GM Detroit-Hamtramck assembly plant. Less than a year after being hired and promised full-time positions by GM and union officials, the workers are out of a job. Medical insurance is running out at the end of the month, and there are few prospects for decent jobs in a city where 117,000 workers are unemployed. The job cuts in Detroit provide a far more realistic picture of the US economy than soaring stock markets or the Fed officials’ fantasies about “full employment.” Yet the layoff of 1,300 workers was not even deemed newsworthy by the local media. It also did not rate a mention by President Trump, who has appointed GM’s CEO to his corporate advisory board. The Detroit job cuts follow more than 2,000 GM layoffs in Lansing, Michigan, and Lordstown, Ohio in January. They anticipate a far greater onslaught as US corporations restructure in response to the global economic slowdown and increasing international competition. In the US, automakers are cutting production due to a growing glut of unsold cars. Commercial aircraft manufacturer Boeing, which cut eight percent of its workforce last year, announced Friday that 1,880 workers had accepted voluntary retirements. The company said more job cuts are expected in 2017 amid falling orders and tight competition with European-based Airbus, which announced 1,200 job cuts a few months ago. A new layoff announcement is made virtually every day in the retail, banking and technology sectors. These are part of an international process. On Wednesday, China’s labor minister, Yin Weimin, said the country will cut another 500,000 steel and coal jobs this year. Last year, 726,000 workers lost their jobs in the coal and steel industries, or 40 percent of the 1.8 million jobs the government said would be eliminated in those industries as part of a massive restructuring of state enterprises. In addition to the job cuts, corporations are seeking to transform their workforces into largely casual, temporary laborers, hired and fired at will, like the Detroit-Hamtramck GM workers. According to the Government Accountability Office, contingent workers now comprise 40.4 percent of all employees. Under Obama, 95 percent of all new jobs created in the US since the so-called economic recovery began have been part-time and temporary. In the European Union, more than half of all new jobs since 2010 have been through temporary contracts. The corporations are also accelerating their plans to dump their pensions and retiree health care obligations and continue to shift the cost of medical coverage on to workers. This month, 22,600 retired coal miners or their widows were notified that they will be losing health care benefits on April 30, when funding for their insurance plans expire. More than one million working or retired Americans are currently covered by pension plans that are in imminent danger of insolvency, according to the Pension Rights Center. The Trump administration, packed with billionaires, is planning to slash corporate taxes and eliminate workplace safety, environmental and labor regulations. In his address to the joint session of Congress on Tuesday, Trump declared that his government has “undertaken a historic effort to massively reduce job crushing regulations.” The increase in military spending outlined in his new budget will be paid for by slashing food stamps and other essential programs, while the ultra-reactionaries appointed to key agencies set their sights on the privatization of public education and the elimination of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. As Wall Street is celebrating the Trump administration’s plans for a massive handout to the corporations and banks, AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka has pledged that his corporatist and anti-working class organization is “absolutely” committed to partnering with Trump. Trump’s fascistic rants against immigrant workers and endless claims that foreign countries and foreign workers are destroying jobs and lowering wages is a calculated effort, aided and abetted by the unions, to divide the working class and block a unified response to the escalation of the class war policies at home and ever greater imperialist militarism abroad. Responding to the speech, Trumka, the president of the AFL-CIO labor federation, told Fox News that the unions were prepared for Trump to “rewrite the rules of the economy,” particularly on trade and immigration policy. Trump’s speech was the president’s “finest moment,” the union head said, signaling that “he’s about to start doing business rather than playing for the camera—that was a good sign.” Far from condemning the president’s xenophobic and racist slanders against immigrants, the AFL-CIO head signaled his support for an even more brutal immigration policy, including against legal residents. “I was actually pleasantly surprised,” Trumka said, “to hear him say the system is broken and its legal immigration, as well as undocumented people—he talked about them a lot—but this was the first time he spoke about legal immigration being used to drive down wages. We’ve been saying that for a long time.” Trumka said that workers voted for the president because “they wanted him to rewrite the rules of the economy—not for the rich, not for the wealthy, not for corporate America, not for Wall Street but for them—and so he’s been a mixed bag on that,” he said. The unions would tout the good things he did and criticize the bad, Trumka said, echoing the lie that trade wars and mass deportation were good for American workers. “Will we partner with him? Absolutely,” Trumka said. “Will we partner with him to try to rewrite the immigration rules of the country? Absolutely… Using the bully pulpit to say this is your country, this is where you owe your allegiance, this is where you should be investing and building, that is a good thing.” The trade unions have been a chief conduit for spreading nationalist poison among workers for a very long time. In the early 1980s, as American capitalism fell into decline and its corporations confronted international competitors, the unions promoted economic nationalism to justify their integration into the structure of corporate management and collusion in the destruction of the jobs and living standards of the workers they claimed to represent. While the unions have worked closely with the Democrats in overseeing the attack on jobs and wages for decades, they now see income opportunities in Trump’s efforts to entice corporations to “Buy American, Hire American.” This has nothing to do with the interests of workers. Rather, the executives want to restore their lost income through the influx of new dues-paying members, regardless of whether they are earning poverty wages. The unions are not “workers’ organizations,” but labor-management syndicates that are hostile to the interests of the working class. New organizations of struggle, including rank-and-file factory and workplace committees, democratically controlled by workers and committed to the methods of the class struggle, must be built to resist the coming attacks on jobs, living standards, essential social services and all the basic social rights of the working class. Above all workers must reject economic nationalism. Workers in every country face the struggles and confront the same enemy: the global capitalist system, which enriches a handful of billionaires at the expense of the broad masses of working people whose collective labor creates society’s riches. To unite the working class—black, white, native born and immigrant, in the US and around the world—workers must build a political movement, independent of both capitalist parties, the Democrats and Republicans, to fight for international socialism and against the danger of world war. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vanessab7717 at gmail.com Sat Mar 4 16:03:37 2017 From: vanessab7717 at gmail.com (vanessa beeley) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 17:03:37 +0100 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Yemen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Apologies all, got a little involved in various events in London on Syria and then travelling...will try to put something together this weekend.. V xx On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:15 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > *Ok. MoveOn (ie., Soros) have their Campaign to pressure UN Security > Council Members to convene a meeting of the Security Council over the > US/UK/Saudi et al. genocide against Yemen and in particular the Houthis. > But the United Nations Secretary General can also convene a UN Security > Council meeting under UN Charter article 99:* > > “The Secretary-General may bring to the attention of the Security Council > any matter which in his opinion may threaten the maintenance of > international peace and security.” > > > > So why don’t we start a campaign to pressure the new UN Secretary General > to deal with the US/UK/Saudi genocide against the Yemenis and in particular > the Houthis under UN Charter article 99 and by reference to the obligation > under Article I of the 1948 Genocide Convention to “prevent” the genocide > against the Yemenis and in particular the Houthis. Fab. > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 <(217)%20333-7954> (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 <(217)%20244-1478> (fax)* > > *(personal comments only*) > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vanessab7717 at gmail.com Sat Mar 4 16:03:37 2017 From: vanessab7717 at gmail.com (vanessa beeley) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 17:03:37 +0100 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Yemen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Apologies all, got a little involved in various events in London on Syria and then travelling...will try to put something together this weekend.. V xx On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:15 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > *Ok. MoveOn (ie., Soros) have their Campaign to pressure UN Security > Council Members to convene a meeting of the Security Council over the > US/UK/Saudi et al. genocide against Yemen and in particular the Houthis. > But the United Nations Secretary General can also convene a UN Security > Council meeting under UN Charter article 99:* > > “The Secretary-General may bring to the attention of the Security Council > any matter which in his opinion may threaten the maintenance of > international peace and security.” > > > > So why don’t we start a campaign to pressure the new UN Secretary General > to deal with the US/UK/Saudi genocide against the Yemenis and in particular > the Houthis under UN Charter article 99 and by reference to the obligation > under Article I of the 1948 Genocide Convention to “prevent” the genocide > against the Yemenis and in particular the Houthis. Fab. > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 <(217)%20333-7954> (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 <(217)%20244-1478> (fax)* > > *(personal comments only*) > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 4 17:19:29 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 17:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Obama's book deal References: <661117719.987361.1488647969151.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <661117719.987361.1488647969151@mail.yahoo.com> A pretty delicious takedown. Obama’s Book Deal: the $60 Million Selfie | | | | | | | | | | | Obama’s Book Deal: the $60 Million Selfie If you had any doubt that former community organizer Barack Obama sees his future as a corporate pitchman for th... | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r-szoke at illinois.edu Sat Mar 4 18:24:20 2017 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 18:24:20 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Who do we BLAME ? Message-ID: <4AFA7EF6-1AE4-4188-B831-741014C37FF8@illinois.edu> United States Ramps Up Airstrikes Against Al Qaeda in Yemen By ERIC SCHMITT NYTMARCH 3, 2017 Continue reading the main storyShare This Page * Share * Tweet * Email * More * Save WASHINGTON — The United States military on Friday carried out a second night of airstrikes against suspected Qaeda terrorists in Yemen in what Pentagon officials said was part of a larger campaign to roll back territorial gains the group has made in the past two years. It was the most intense series of strikes ever against Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, or A.Q.A.P. In all of 2016, the United States conducted a total of 38 strikes in Yemen, according to the Foundation for Defense of Democracies’ Long War Journal. Yet in the last two days, armed Reaper drones and attack planes conducted more than 30 strikes against Qaeda militants, equipment and safe houses across south-central Yemen, Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said on Friday. The escalating offensive against Al Qaeda’s branch in Yemen comes as a bit of a surprise. President Trump pledged during his campaign to accelerate efforts against the Islamic State — mostly in Iraq and Syria — and on Monday the Pentagon submitted its plan to do just that. But during the first weeks of Mr. Trump’s presidency, the Qaeda affiliate in Yemen has emerged as the White House’s most vexing terrorism challenge. The Trump administration has been forced to defend itself against assertions that a Special Operations raid in January of a Qaeda safe house in central Yemen — during which a member of the Navy’s SEAL Team 6 was killed — was a failure because little meaningful intelligence material had been seized. A military investigation was also ordered to determine whether as many as two dozen civilians, including 10 children, died in the assault. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 4 23:01:01 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 23:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] My article on CounterPunch References: <1837193424.1147730.1488668461940.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1837193424.1147730.1488668461940@mail.yahoo.com> Progressive and Neoliberal Evasions in the Era of Trump: What the Inequality Data Show by David Green One does not have to plow through Thomas Piketty’s Capital in the Twenty-First Century (2013) in order to grasp the radical changes in income and wealth inequality over the past four decades which fundamentally determined Donald Trump’s victory last November. Instead, one can examine a few of the charts at the end of two more recent reports by Piketty and his Berkeley colleagues Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman: “Wealth Inequality in the United States Since 1913: Evidence from the Capitalized Income Tax Data” (2014); and “Distributional National Accounts: Methods and Estimates for the United States” (2016). The latter report focuses on radical changes in income inequality between two post-World War II periods: 1946-1980 and 1980-2014. The authors’ goal is to capture 100% of national income; that is, the income of every individual adult over age 18 from any source—wages, capital (investment income), benefits, and government transfers—which collectively is roughly equal to the yearly Gross Domestic Product. This identity is true for both pre-tax and post-tax-and-government-spending income data; but it is the latter data that make the most honest case for a radical increase in economic inequality since 1980. Increased income inequality pertaining to both labor and capital income in turn explains much of the parallel increase in household wealth inequality, which is often popularly emphasized because the accumulated wealth figures are so much more starkly unequal. Unlike these economists, I have a polemical purpose as well. It is to counter assertions by many of those who identify as liberals and/or progressives that Donald Trump’s victory primarily signifies a racist/misogynist and white identity-driven agenda rather than a justified reaction to the increased hardships and decreased opportunities visited by neoliberalism on the white working class. Eight years of neoliberalism with a Democratic Party face—not a black or female face—resulted in white voters with some college or less increasing their Republican margin from 20% (2008) to 40% (2016). Hillary Clinton, with her roots in both neoliberal (more inequality) and neoconservative (more war) policies, had nothing to offer these voters except vicarious identification with her glass ceiling, and she offered that nothing in a condescending manner. Nor had Obama anything economically meaningful to offer, as it turned out, in spite of the relative faith shown in him by white working class voters. Meanwhile, Trump campaigned on a rejection of both of these establishment doctrines. What the national income data showPiketty’s et al.’s national income data set compares two periods of economic growth among the full population, the bottom 50%, the middle 40%, the top 10%, and four additional categories within the top 10%. From 1946-1980, overall real per capita (age 18 and over) growth was 95%. Both the bottom 50% and the middle 40% had (post-tax) growth rates higher than this: 102% and 105%, respectively. Therefore, these groups gained a larger share of the overall economic pie during this period. Meanwhile, top 10% income grew at a rate of 79%, signifying a decreasing share of total income. Moreover, all four groups with the top 10%—1%, .1%, .01%, and .001%—also found themselves during this 35-year period with decreased shares of post-tax income, with the real per capita growth rate of the top 1% at only 47%.The post-tax income data from 1980-2014 show that this trend was radically reversed during the neoliberal era. While overall growth was lower at 61%, growth for the bottom 50% and middle 40% was 21% and 49% respectively. Meanwhile, the exorbitant growth rates for the top 10%, 1%, .1%, .01% and .001% were (respectively): 113%, 194%, 299%, 424%, and 617%. The concrete results of this shift can be extrapolated from the data as follows, by calculating an alternative scenario in which the income of all groups grew at the overall rate (61%), and comparing that to their actual growth. From these figures, we can derive the amount of income effectively transferred in 2014 from the bottom 90% to the top 10% due to decreased/increased income shares: + If the income of the bottom 50% had grown at the overall rate, the average income of this group (117,200,000 adults) would have been $33,250. Instead, it was $25,000, or $8,250 less.+ If the income of the middle 40% had grown at the overall rate, the average income of this group (93,760,000 adults) would have been $72,600. Instead, it was $67,200, or $5,400 less.+ If the income of the top 10% had grown at the overall rate, the average income of this group (23,440,000 adults) would have been $190,500. Instead, it was $252,000, or $61,500 more.+ If the income of the top 1% had grown at the overall rate, the average income of this group (2,344,000 adults) would have been $616,100. Instead, it was $1,010,000, or $393,900 more. The bottom 50% lost 25% of what would have been its yearly income, given a constant share of overall income, through neoliberal income re-distribution policies, 1980-2014. The average transfer of income away from each of the bottom 90% in 2014 was $6,800. Put differently, every nine adults in the bottom 90% contributed a total of $61,200 to one individual in the top 10%. By 2014, the top 10% received a total of an additional $1.43 trillion dollars, nearly 10% of overall income (or GDP), that had in 1980 accrued to the bottom 90%. This is also reflected in Piketty et al.’s finding that the top 10% share of income increased from 30% to 40% during this period. At least three additional findings from the income data are relevant in this context:First, income is highly concentrated among the top tenth of each income bracket. Whether one compares 100% and 10%, 10% and 1%, 1% and .1%, .1% and .01%, or .01% and .001%, the top one-tenth portion receives over 40% of the overall income of the larger group. Second, while capital (investment) income has overall remained at 30% over an entire century, for the top 10% the capital share has remained above 40%; for the top 1%, 60%, and for the top .1%, nearly 70%. While these figures have not changed dramatically over a long period, it’s worth noting the increasing dominance of capital over labor income as one moves up the total income ladder. Third, the overall tax rate (federal, state, local) for the bottom 50% has increased since 1960 from 15% to 25%; for the top 1%, the overall tax rate has decreased during this period from 45% to 35% (up from 30% during the early Reagan era). SummaryThe concurrent historical increase of wealth inequality, a consequence of neoliberal policies related to labor, taxation, and finance, is amply demonstrated in the 2014 report referred to above. From 1980-2012, the share of the top 10% of households increased from 65% to 75%, while (obviously) the share of the bottom 90% decreased from 35% to 25%. Analogous to income concentration, wealth is concentrated in the top one-tenth of each increasingly wealthy group. Thus, the top 1% now owns over 40% of household wealth (up from 25% in 1980), the top .1% owns over 20% (up from 10% in 1980), and the top .01% (16,000 households) owns over 10% (up from 3% in 1980). Increasing disparities in individual income of course ensure increasing disparities in household wealth, to the point where these disparities are simply inconceivable except in terms of the contrast between materially-based human suffering and superfluous abundance. This suffering, experienced and witnessed well beyond those technically defined as impoverished, cannot be wished away by identity politics, in the name of progressivism, anti-fascism, or anything else. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Mar 5 13:43:14 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 13:43:14 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Chris Hedges interviews Kevin Zeese on "resistance" Message-ID: https://www.rt.com/shows/on-contact/379473-law-makers-us-trump/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Mar 5 14:01:35 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 14:01:35 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary Message-ID: Sunday Extra: Urbana as a sanctuary city Top of Form Bottom of Form Sun, 03/05/2017 - 7:00am | The News-Gazette [http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-facebook.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-twitter.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/print.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/send4.png] By KAREN ARAM For those in fear of sanctuary cities being defunded, as has been pointed out, the president must go through Congress, and it then goes to the states. It was a threat made by the Reagan administration in the 1980s. For those concerned we are breaking "federal laws" by being sanctuary cities, it needs to be recognized that our federal government has been breaking its own laws for decades. Whether our interventions conducted as false flags seeking regime change or by dropping bombs, sanctions that starve, or occupation in the name of "freedom." We are therefore responsible for the thousands of lives lost and destroyed, in at least seven nations. Those same seven nations for whom we now have a ban on their nationals. For those who are undocumented, the real fear is what is happening now with the first Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids under President Dongald Trump, arresting nearly 700 immigrants in five days across the nation. A quarter of those arrested had no criminal records. The Obama administration was responsible for the deportation of 2.7 million immigrants, more than any previous administration, and rejected numerous appeals to grant a blanket pardon to shield both DREAMERS and legal permanent residents from deportation. The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program was provided for those who were brought to the U.S. as children and granted a two-year, renewable reprieve from deportation. The Trump administration is now in possession of the fingerprints and addresses of all 750,000 DREAMERS fingerprints and addresses. Up to 8 million people are potential targets for deportation under Trump's January executive orders. According to Zaina Green of the World Socialist website, David Ward, director of the National Association of Former Border Patrol Agents, speaking on Fox and Friends Monday, said that the ICE raids were "probably planned months ago under the Obama administration, but now being launched under the Trump administration." Since the Holocaust, the question has been asked, "How could it happen, a round up of neighbors being deported often with little notice or concern?" No one is suggesting that the current deportations taking place of the undocumented is comparable to sending people off to concentration camps or gas chambers, but sending people over borders to the unknown is nonetheless cruel. They may not have been successful, but at least the Netherlands made the attempt at an organized, coordinated effort to save the "Jews within their nation," and they will be forever remembered "as having at least tried." Urbana as a sanctuary city, will be remembered as having at least "tried." Hopefully we will be successful, where other cities may not be remembered so well. Karen Aram lives in Urbana. Kudos to Karen and the important role she played in getting Urbana re-confirmed as a Sanctuary City. According to USA Today, Urbana is the only Sanctuary between Chicago and St. Louis. At least we tried. Champaign refused. Just like Champaign refused back in 1986. Back then going door to door against us were the American Nazi Party, the Ku Klux Klan, Phyllis Shlaffley's Eagle Forum and the Republican Party of Champaign County. Birds of a Feather Flock Together. Fab. [http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-facebook.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-twitter.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/print.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/send4.png] Sections (2):Guest Commentary, Opinion More Commentary * Guest Commentary: The ultimate service business * Ray Elliott/Voices: Remedy for gangs that can't shoot straight? * Guest Commentary: Education secretary could learn much from public schools * Guest commentary: State should create Tax Revision Commission More Commentary * Guest Commentary: The ultimate service business Francis A. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:02 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G ; Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary Sunday Extra: Urbana as a sanctuary city Top of Form Bottom of Form Sun, 03/05/2017 - 7:00am | The News-Gazette [http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-facebook.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-twitter.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/print.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/send4.png] By KAREN ARAM For those in fear of sanctuary cities being defunded, as has been pointed out, the president must go through Congress, and it then goes to the states. It was a threat made by the Reagan administration in the 1980s. For those concerned we are breaking "federal laws" by being sanctuary cities, it needs to be recognized that our federal government has been breaking its own laws for decades. Whether our interventions conducted as false flags seeking regime change or by dropping bombs, sanctions that starve, or occupation in the name of "freedom." We are therefore responsible for the thousands of lives lost and destroyed, in at least seven nations. Those same seven nations for whom we now have a ban on their nationals. For those who are undocumented, the real fear is what is happening now with the first Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids under President Dongald Trump, arresting nearly 700 immigrants in five days across the nation. A quarter of those arrested had no criminal records. The Obama administration was responsible for the deportation of 2.7 million immigrants, more than any previous administration, and rejected numerous appeals to grant a blanket pardon to shield both DREAMERS and legal permanent residents from deportation. The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program was provided for those who were brought to the U.S. as children and granted a two-year, renewable reprieve from deportation. The Trump administration is now in possession of the fingerprints and addresses of all 750,000 DREAMERS fingerprints and addresses. Up to 8 million people are potential targets for deportation under Trump's January executive orders. According to Zaina Green of the World Socialist website, David Ward, director of the National Association of Former Border Patrol Agents, speaking on Fox and Friends Monday, said that the ICE raids were "probably planned months ago under the Obama administration, but now being launched under the Trump administration." Since the Holocaust, the question has been asked, "How could it happen, a round up of neighbors being deported often with little notice or concern?" No one is suggesting that the current deportations taking place of the undocumented is comparable to sending people off to concentration camps or gas chambers, but sending people over borders to the unknown is nonetheless cruel. They may not have been successful, but at least the Netherlands made the attempt at an organized, coordinated effort to save the "Jews within their nation," and they will be forever remembered "as having at least tried." Urbana as a sanctuary city, will be remembered as having at least "tried." Hopefully we will be successful, where other cities may not be remembered so well. Karen Aram lives in Urbana. Kudos to Karen and the important role she played in getting Urbana re-confirmed as a Sanctuary City. According to USA Today, Urbana is the only Sanctuary between Chicago and St. Louis. At least we tried. Champaign refused. Just like Champaign refused back in 1986. Back then going door to door against us were the American Nazi Party, the Ku Klux Klan, Phyllis Shlaffley's Eagle Forum and the Republican Party of Champaign County. Birds of a Feather Flock Together. Fab. [http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-facebook.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-twitter.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/print.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/send4.png] Sections (2):Guest Commentary, Opinion More Commentary * Guest Commentary: The ultimate service business * Ray Elliott/Voices: Remedy for gangs that can't shoot straight? * Guest Commentary: Education secretary could learn much from public schools * Guest commentary: State should create Tax Revision Commission More Commentary * Guest Commentary: The ultimate service business Francis A. 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ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary Kudos to Karen and the important role she played in getting Urbana re-confirmed as a Sanctuary City. According to USA Today, Urbana is the only Sanctuary between Chicago and St. Louis. At least we tried. Champaign refused. Just like Champaign refused back in 1986. Back then going door to door against us were the American Nazi Party, the Ku Klux Klan, Phyllis Shlaffley's Eagle Forum and the Republican Party of Champaign County. Birds of a Feather Flock Together. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:02 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > Subject: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary Sunday Extra: Urbana as a sanctuary city Top of Form Bottom of Form Sun, 03/05/2017 - 7:00am | The News-Gazette [http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-facebook.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-twitter.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/print.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/send4.png] By KAREN ARAM For those in fear of sanctuary cities being defunded, as has been pointed out, the president must go through Congress, and it then goes to the states. It was a threat made by the Reagan administration in the 1980s. For those concerned we are breaking "federal laws" by being sanctuary cities, it needs to be recognized that our federal government has been breaking its own laws for decades. Whether our interventions conducted as false flags seeking regime change or by dropping bombs, sanctions that starve, or occupation in the name of "freedom." We are therefore responsible for the thousands of lives lost and destroyed, in at least seven nations. Those same seven nations for whom we now have a ban on their nationals. For those who are undocumented, the real fear is what is happening now with the first Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids under President Dongald Trump, arresting nearly 700 immigrants in five days across the nation. A quarter of those arrested had no criminal records. The Obama administration was responsible for the deportation of 2.7 million immigrants, more than any previous administration, and rejected numerous appeals to grant a blanket pardon to shield both DREAMERS and legal permanent residents from deportation. The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program was provided for those who were brought to the U.S. as children and granted a two-year, renewable reprieve from deportation. The Trump administration is now in possession of the fingerprints and addresses of all 750,000 DREAMERS fingerprints and addresses. Up to 8 million people are potential targets for deportation under Trump's January executive orders. According to Zaina Green of the World Socialist website, David Ward, director of the National Association of Former Border Patrol Agents, speaking on Fox and Friends Monday, said that the ICE raids were "probably planned months ago under the Obama administration, but now being launched under the Trump administration." Since the Holocaust, the question has been asked, "How could it happen, a round up of neighbors being deported often with little notice or concern?" No one is suggesting that the current deportations taking place of the undocumented is comparable to sending people off to concentration camps or gas chambers, but sending people over borders to the unknown is nonetheless cruel. They may not have been successful, but at least the Netherlands made the attempt at an organized, coordinated effort to save the "Jews within their nation," and they will be forever remembered "as having at least tried." Urbana as a sanctuary city, will be remembered as having at least "tried." Hopefully we will be successful, where other cities may not be remembered so well. Karen Aram lives in Urbana. Kudos to Karen and the important role she played in getting Urbana re-confirmed as a Sanctuary City. According to USA Today, Urbana is the only Sanctuary between Chicago and St. Louis. At least we tried. Champaign refused. Just like Champaign refused back in 1986. Back then going door to door against us were the American Nazi Party, the Ku Klux Klan, Phyllis Shlaffley's Eagle Forum and the Republican Party of Champaign County. Birds of a Feather Flock Together. Fab. [http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-facebook.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-twitter.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/print.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/send4.png] Sections (2):Guest Commentary, Opinion More Commentary * Guest Commentary: The ultimate service business * Ray Elliott/Voices: Remedy for gangs that can't shoot straight? * Guest Commentary: Education secretary could learn much from public schools * Guest commentary: State should create Tax Revision Commission More Commentary * Guest Commentary: The ultimate service business Francis A. 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Estabrook) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 09:23:37 -0600 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C144EA9-146A-49D3-81F5-35B737D8331D@illinois.edu> Karen Aram’s column is to be commended. But shouldn't we be condemning the military and economic policies of all recent administrations - from Obama's attack on Syria to trade pacts like NAFTA - that make sanctuary sites necessary, rather than dwelling on the peculiar personality of the current US chief executive (as the vicious combination of the 'intelligence community,’ the neocons, and the Obama-Clinton Democrats encourage us to do, for their own promotion)? The local Champaign-Urbana peace group AWARE distributed the following flyer at their monthly anti-war demonstration yesterday: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green > Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary > > Kudos to Karen and the important role she played in getting Urbana re-confirmed as a Sanctuary City. According to USA Today, Urbana is the only Sanctuary between Chicago and St. Louis. At least we tried. Champaign refused. Just like Champaign refused back in 1986. Back then going door to door against us were the American Nazi Party, the Ku Klux Klan, Phyllis Shlaffley’s Eagle Forum and the Republican Party of Champaign County. Birds of a Feather Flock Together. Fab. > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:02 AM > To: Estabrook, Carl G ; Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ;sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green > Subject: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary > > Sunday Extra: Urbana as a sanctuary city > > Top of Form > > Bottom of Form > Sun, 03/05/2017 - 7:00am | The News-Gazette > > By KAREN ARAM > For those in fear of sanctuary cities being defunded, as has been pointed out, the president must go through Congress, and it then goes to the states. > It was a threat made by the Reagan administration in the 1980s. > For those concerned we are breaking "federal laws" by being sanctuary cities, it needs to be recognized that our federal government has been breaking its own laws for decades. Whether our interventions conducted as false flags seeking regime change or by dropping bombs, sanctions that starve, or occupation in the name of "freedom." We are therefore responsible for the thousands of lives lost and destroyed, in at least seven nations. Those same seven nations for whom we now have a ban on their nationals. > For those who are undocumented, the real fear is what is happening now with the first Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids under President Dongald Trump, arresting nearly 700 immigrants in five days across the nation. A quarter of those arrested had no criminal records. > The Obama administration was responsible for the deportation of 2.7 million immigrants, more than any previous administration, and rejected numerous appeals to grant a blanket pardon to shield both DREAMERS and legal permanent residents from deportation. > The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program was provided for those who were brought to the U.S. as children and granted a two-year, renewable reprieve from deportation. > The Trump administration is now in possession of the fingerprints and addresses of all 750,000 DREAMERS fingerprints and addresses. Up to 8 million people are potential targets for deportation under Trump's January executive orders. > According to Zaina Green of the World Socialist website, David Ward, director of the National Association of Former Border Patrol Agents, speaking on Fox and Friends Monday, said that the ICE raids were "probably planned months ago under the Obama administration, but now being launched under the Trump administration." > Since the Holocaust, the question has been asked, "How could it happen, a round up of neighbors being deported often with little notice or concern?" > No one is suggesting that the current deportations taking place of the undocumented is comparable to sending people off to concentration camps or gas chambers, but sending people over borders to the unknown is nonetheless cruel. > They may not have been successful, but at least the Netherlands made the attempt at an organized, coordinated effort to save the "Jews within their nation," and they will be forever remembered "as having at least tried." > Urbana as a sanctuary city, will be remembered as having at least "tried." > Hopefully we will be successful, where other cities may not be remembered so well. > Karen Aram lives in Urbana. > Kudos to Karen and the important role she played in getting Urbana re-confirmed as a Sanctuary City. According to USA Today, Urbana is the only Sanctuary between Chicago and St. Louis. At least we tried. Champaign refused. Just like Champaign refused back in 1986. Back then going door to door against us were the American Nazi Party, the Ku Klux Klan, Phyllis Shlaffley’s Eagle Forum and the Republican Party of Champaign County. Birds of a Feather Flock Together. Fab. > > Sections (2):Guest Commentary, Opinion > More Commentary > > • Guest Commentary: The ultimate service business > • Ray Elliott/Voices: Remedy for gangs that can't shoot straight? > • Guest Commentary: Education secretary could learn much from public schools > • Guest commentary: State should create Tax Revision Commission > More Commentary > > • Guest Commentary: The ultimate service business > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) From stuartnlevy at gmail.com Sun Mar 5 15:25:53 2017 From: stuartnlevy at gmail.com (stuartnlevy) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 09:25:53 -0600 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: [Aware] Popular Resistance Newsletter - This is what austerity looks like Message-ID: News from PopularResistance.  -- Stuart -------- Original message --------From: "PopularResistance.org via Aware" Date: 3/5/17 07:49 (GMT-06:00) To: aware at anti-war.net Subject: [Aware] Popular Resistance Newsletter - This is what austerity looks like In the United States, austerity is triggering economic insecurity and civil unrest. This newsletter is also available on the web here (https://popularresistance.org/newsletter-this-is-what-austerity-looks-like/) . ------------------------------------------------------------ George Lakey of Waging Nonviolence wrote about (https://popularresistance.org/inequality-is-the-real-backstory-to-swedens-riots/)  the root cause of the recent protests in Sweden – increasing wealth inequality from austerity measures imposed over the past few decades. The media reported that the protests were a response to the police murder of a 69 year-old man, but they were actually due to a growing division between classes that is also fueling racism. Even though the wealth divide is much smaller in Sweden than it is in the United States, it is obvious to Swedes when compared to surrounding countries. https://popularresistance-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2017/03/1jobs.jpgIn the United States, austerity measures in the form of cuts to social programs, lower wages and tax cuts for the wealthy have also fueled tremendous wealth inequality and economic insecurity. Similar to Sweden, this is the root of civil unrest. Lakey urges people in the US to fight back via nonviolent revolution. Health insecurity Health care is back in the political spotlight again. The so-called Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as Obamacare, is failing. The number of people who have health insurance has plateaued leaving 29 million people uncovered. The price of premiums and out-of-pocket costs are rising so that even people who have health insurance are unable to afford care. The Democrats and their base are finding the ACA difficult to defend (https://popularresistance.org/obamacare-meeting-bends-toward-single-payer-solution/) , especially considering that a super majority of Democratic Party voters want National Improved Medicare for All (single payer). The Trump Administration and Republican Congress are working to find a way to repeal the ACA and replace it with a plan (https://popularresistance.org/republican-obamacare-replacement-crystallizing-what-to-expect/)  that will further cut our public insurances and create cheaper, but skimpier, private health insurance plans. Dr. Don McCanne translates President Trump’s healthcare plan (https://popularresistance.org/translating-trumps-healthcare-promises-plans/)  as described in his speech to a joint session of Congress this week: https://popularresistance-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2017/03/hr676flyer1.png“It looks like Trump’s promise of ‘insurance for everybody… much less expensive and much better’ is deceptive. Insurance for everybody means access to insurance, not actually being insured. Much less expensive means insurance that does not protect your financial assets, it you have any. Much better means that you have a choice of purchasing worthless plans, if you call that better.” Michelle Chen writes in Truthout (https://popularresistance.org/amid-gop-attacks-on-health-care-movement-for-single-payer-is-growing/)  that the public is convinced that now is the time for National Improved Medicare for All, and the task at hand is to pressure Congress members to support it. Here are actions that you can take: 1. Contact your Representative in Congress and urge them to co-sponsor HR 676: The Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act. The Capitol switchboard is 202 224 3121. Or talk to your member at a town hall. 2. Call Senator Sanders and urge him to introduce a senate version of HR 676. Click here for an easy call-in tool (http://healthoverprofit.org/2017/02/17/call-senator-sanders-office/) . 3. Join the Health Over Profit National Calls to learn more about National Improved Medicare for All and how we win it. Click here to register for the calls (http://healthoverprofit.org/2017/02/06/health-over-profit-national-calls/) . Rallies are being planned for April 1 (https://popularresistance.org/calendar1/march-for-health/)  to call for protections within the ACA to be preserved and for single payer health care. And on April 7, we are participating in an international day of action against the privatization of health care: “Our Health is not for Sale.” Click here (http://healthoverprofit.org/international-day-of-action-our-health-is-not-for-sale/)  for more information. Austerity for most of us The President will release his budget soon. David Swanson of World Beyond War lays out the folly (https://popularresistance.org/the-choice-trumps-budget-creates/)  of President Trump’s proposal to dramatically increase military spending when we could use those dollars to solve the many crises we face such as hunger and the lack of clean water, student debt and the need to rapidly to clean renewable sources of energy. Our budget reflects the priorities of the government. This administration, like past ones, is choosing the war profiteers and corporations that need their protection as they pillage the planet over the needs of people at home and around the world. https://popularresistance-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2017/03/states.pngWidespread civil unrest is growing in the United States. As in Sweden, it is fueled by economic insecurity and assaults on people’s rights. Instead of responding with solutions to the current crises, governments are working to stifle dissent. In 18 states, lawmakers introduced bills (https://popularresistance.org/republican-lawmakers-introduce-bills-to-curb-protesting-in-at-least-18-states/)  that would restrict protest or increase penalties for protesting. Arizonans fought back and won (https://popularresistance.org/arizona-gop-kills-bill-that-wouldve-treated-protesters-like-terrorists/)  this week against a bill that would make it possible to charge protesters under racketeering laws and seize their property if violence occurs at a protest, even if the person didn’t do anything. In the recent Day Without Immigrants, one hundred workers were fired for participating in the strike. More strikes are being planned, a Woman’s Strike on March 8 and widespread strikes on May 1. Leora Smith explains steps that workers can take  (https://popularresistance.org/political-strikes-what-can-workers-do-to-protect-themselves/) to protect themselves when they strike. Risks and Benefits of Protest https://popularresistance-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2017/03/17098387_10208641244770635_3601868970032318249_n-e1488384742957.jpgIf government continues on its destructive path ignoring the will of the people, then protests will grow. It is critical to be strategic when undertaking protest campaigns. Outrage, when channeled constructively, can bring about significant changes. Anti-drone protesters in upstate New York had a significant victory (https://popularresistance.org/drone-resisters-acquitted-juror-tells-them-keep-doing-it/)  this week. After years of protesting drone bombing at Hancock Air Force Base outside of Syracuse, and being jailed for doing so, a jury found that the protest was justified and essentially nullified the charges even though the defendants admitted guilt. On the West Coast, anti-drone activists continue regular actions to stop drone bombing at Fort Beale Air Force Base. Six were arrested (https://popularresistance.org/drone-protesters-arrested-on-tuesday/)  over two days of actions. https://popularresistance-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2017/03/1jlm.jpgThis week, an environmental activist, James Leroy Marker, was shot and killed (https://popularresistance.org/vigil-for-sabal-trail-pipeline-protester-killed-by-police/)  by Florida police after sabotaging the Sabal Trail Pipeline. The pipeline endangers fragile environmental areas. And this week was the one-year anniversary (https://popularresistance.org/the-vision-and-legacy-of-berta-caceres/)  of the assassination of Berta Cáceres in Honduras for fighting a dam project. The Guardian found that “her murder was a well planned military operation conducted by elite troops trained by the United States.” We also remember that Trayvon Martin was shot and killed five years ago this week. Click here (https://popularresistance.org/five-years-ago-today-trayvon-martin-was-killed/)  for actions that you can take to remember Trayvon. The media often downplay protests by saying that they are ineffective and not giving them credit for victories; however, protests are working. Even when they don’t achieve the goal, such as stopping the Dakota Access Pipeline, protests bring people together, educate about issues, teach new skills and empower people. A critical element to successful campaigns is to be strategic. While we recognize the fears and concerns about the Trump presidency, we must also recognize that he did not arise in a vacuum. It is growing insecurity that drives fear and the elites’ use of that fear to divide us against each other. We must stay focused on the root of the crises, an economic system that drives exploitation and a government dominated by wealth. We can turn crises to our advantage by building on the uprisings they instigate to push for changes that transform the whole system. Kevin Zeese and Chris Hedges discuss resistance in the era of Trump in greater depth in this week's episode of On Contact. Click here to watch it (https://popularresistance.org/hedges-and-zeese-resistance-in-the-age-of-trump/) . We have combined this interview with summaries of previous newsletters to examine the impressive growth of the resistance movement, the challenges we face and the potential of people power. People are realizing they have power and that when they use it, our potential is greater than we can imagine. 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Mar 5 15:26:16 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 15:26:16 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary In-Reply-To: <2C144EA9-146A-49D3-81F5-35B737D8331D@illinois.edu> References: <2C144EA9-146A-49D3-81F5-35B737D8331D@illinois.edu> Message-ID: For Sure Carl. Think Universally. Act Locally. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:24 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: Re: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary Karen Aram’s column is to be commended. But shouldn't we be condemning the military and economic policies of all recent administrations - from Obama's attack on Syria to trade pacts like NAFTA - that make sanctuary sites necessary, rather than dwelling on the peculiar personality of the current US chief executive (as the vicious combination of the 'intelligence community,’ the neocons, and the Obama-Clinton Democrats encourage us to do, for their own promotion)? The local Champaign-Urbana peace group AWARE distributed the following flyer at their monthly anti-war demonstration yesterday: —CGE > On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: > > And let me commend the vigorous support we got from Mayor Laurel Prussing from the get-go. We shall miss her. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:04 AM > To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > > Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary > > Kudos to Karen and the important role she played in getting Urbana re-confirmed as a Sanctuary City. According to USA Today, Urbana is the only Sanctuary between Chicago and St. Louis. At least we tried. Champaign refused. Just like Champaign refused back in 1986. Back then going door to door against us were the American Nazi Party, the Ku Klux Klan, Phyllis Shlaffley’s Eagle Forum and the Republican Party of Champaign County. Birds of a Feather Flock Together. Fab. > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:02 AM > To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >;sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > > Subject: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary > > Sunday Extra: Urbana as a sanctuary city > > Top of Form > > Bottom of Form > Sun, 03/05/2017 - 7:00am | The News-Gazette > > By KAREN ARAM > For those in fear of sanctuary cities being defunded, as has been pointed out, the president must go through Congress, and it then goes to the states. > It was a threat made by the Reagan administration in the 1980s. > For those concerned we are breaking "federal laws" by being sanctuary cities, it needs to be recognized that our federal government has been breaking its own laws for decades. Whether our interventions conducted as false flags seeking regime change or by dropping bombs, sanctions that starve, or occupation in the name of "freedom." We are therefore responsible for the thousands of lives lost and destroyed, in at least seven nations. Those same seven nations for whom we now have a ban on their nationals. > For those who are undocumented, the real fear is what is happening now with the first Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids under President Dongald Trump, arresting nearly 700 immigrants in five days across the nation. A quarter of those arrested had no criminal records. > The Obama administration was responsible for the deportation of 2.7 million immigrants, more than any previous administration, and rejected numerous appeals to grant a blanket pardon to shield both DREAMERS and legal permanent residents from deportation. > The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program was provided for those who were brought to the U.S. as children and granted a two-year, renewable reprieve from deportation. > The Trump administration is now in possession of the fingerprints and addresses of all 750,000 DREAMERS fingerprints and addresses. Up to 8 million people are potential targets for deportation under Trump's January executive orders. > According to Zaina Green of the World Socialist website, David Ward, director of the National Association of Former Border Patrol Agents, speaking on Fox and Friends Monday, said that the ICE raids were "probably planned months ago under the Obama administration, but now being launched under the Trump administration." > Since the Holocaust, the question has been asked, "How could it happen, a round up of neighbors being deported often with little notice or concern?" > No one is suggesting that the current deportations taking place of the undocumented is comparable to sending people off to concentration camps or gas chambers, but sending people over borders to the unknown is nonetheless cruel. > They may not have been successful, but at least the Netherlands made the attempt at an organized, coordinated effort to save the "Jews within their nation," and they will be forever remembered "as having at least tried." > Urbana as a sanctuary city, will be remembered as having at least "tried." > Hopefully we will be successful, where other cities may not be remembered so well. > Karen Aram lives in Urbana. > Kudos to Karen and the important role she played in getting Urbana re-confirmed as a Sanctuary City. According to USA Today, Urbana is the only Sanctuary between Chicago and St. Louis. At least we tried. Champaign refused. Just like Champaign refused back in 1986. Back then going door to door against us were the American Nazi Party, the Ku Klux Klan, Phyllis Shlaffley’s Eagle Forum and the Republican Party of Champaign County. Birds of a Feather Flock Together. Fab. > > Sections (2):Guest Commentary, Opinion > More Commentary > > • Guest Commentary: The ultimate service business > • Ray Elliott/Voices: Remedy for gangs that can't shoot straight? > • Guest Commentary: Education secretary could learn much from public schools > • Guest commentary: State should create Tax Revision Commission > More Commentary > > • Guest Commentary: The ultimate service business > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Mar 5 15:29:50 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 15:29:50 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary References: <2C144EA9-146A-49D3-81F5-35B737D8331D@illinois.edu> Message-ID: In my course on The Constitutional Law of U.S. Foreign Affairs I have an entire segment where I train my future lawyers what State and Local governments can do to promote peace, justice and human rights, etc.—just like we did in Urbana. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:26 AM To: 'Carl G. Estabrook' Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary For Sure Carl. Think Universally. Act Locally. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:24 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > Subject: Re: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary Karen Aram’s column is to be commended. But shouldn't we be condemning the military and economic policies of all recent administrations - from Obama's attack on Syria to trade pacts like NAFTA - that make sanctuary sites necessary, rather than dwelling on the peculiar personality of the current US chief executive (as the vicious combination of the 'intelligence community,’ the neocons, and the Obama-Clinton Democrats encourage us to do, for their own promotion)? The local Champaign-Urbana peace group AWARE distributed the following flyer at their monthly anti-war demonstration yesterday: —CGE > On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: > > And let me commend the vigorous support we got from Mayor Laurel Prussing from the get-go. We shall miss her. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:04 AM > To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > > Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary > > Kudos to Karen and the important role she played in getting Urbana re-confirmed as a Sanctuary City. According to USA Today, Urbana is the only Sanctuary between Chicago and St. Louis. At least we tried. Champaign refused. Just like Champaign refused back in 1986. Back then going door to door against us were the American Nazi Party, the Ku Klux Klan, Phyllis Shlaffley’s Eagle Forum and the Republican Party of Champaign County. Birds of a Feather Flock Together. Fab. > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:02 AM > To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >;sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > > Subject: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary > > Sunday Extra: Urbana as a sanctuary city > > Top of Form > > Bottom of Form > Sun, 03/05/2017 - 7:00am | The News-Gazette > > By KAREN ARAM > For those in fear of sanctuary cities being defunded, as has been pointed out, the president must go through Congress, and it then goes to the states. > It was a threat made by the Reagan administration in the 1980s. > For those concerned we are breaking "federal laws" by being sanctuary cities, it needs to be recognized that our federal government has been breaking its own laws for decades. Whether our interventions conducted as false flags seeking regime change or by dropping bombs, sanctions that starve, or occupation in the name of "freedom." We are therefore responsible for the thousands of lives lost and destroyed, in at least seven nations. Those same seven nations for whom we now have a ban on their nationals. > For those who are undocumented, the real fear is what is happening now with the first Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids under President Dongald Trump, arresting nearly 700 immigrants in five days across the nation. A quarter of those arrested had no criminal records. > The Obama administration was responsible for the deportation of 2.7 million immigrants, more than any previous administration, and rejected numerous appeals to grant a blanket pardon to shield both DREAMERS and legal permanent residents from deportation. > The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program was provided for those who were brought to the U.S. as children and granted a two-year, renewable reprieve from deportation. > The Trump administration is now in possession of the fingerprints and addresses of all 750,000 DREAMERS fingerprints and addresses. Up to 8 million people are potential targets for deportation under Trump's January executive orders. > According to Zaina Green of the World Socialist website, David Ward, director of the National Association of Former Border Patrol Agents, speaking on Fox and Friends Monday, said that the ICE raids were "probably planned months ago under the Obama administration, but now being launched under the Trump administration." > Since the Holocaust, the question has been asked, "How could it happen, a round up of neighbors being deported often with little notice or concern?" > No one is suggesting that the current deportations taking place of the undocumented is comparable to sending people off to concentration camps or gas chambers, but sending people over borders to the unknown is nonetheless cruel. > They may not have been successful, but at least the Netherlands made the attempt at an organized, coordinated effort to save the "Jews within their nation," and they will be forever remembered "as having at least tried." > Urbana as a sanctuary city, will be remembered as having at least "tried." > Hopefully we will be successful, where other cities may not be remembered so well. > Karen Aram lives in Urbana. > Kudos to Karen and the important role she played in getting Urbana re-confirmed as a Sanctuary City. According to USA Today, Urbana is the only Sanctuary between Chicago and St. Louis. At least we tried. Champaign refused. Just like Champaign refused back in 1986. Back then going door to door against us were the American Nazi Party, the Ku Klux Klan, Phyllis Shlaffley’s Eagle Forum and the Republican Party of Champaign County. Birds of a Feather Flock Together. Fab. > > Sections (2):Guest Commentary, Opinion > More Commentary > > • Guest Commentary: The ultimate service business > • Ray Elliott/Voices: Remedy for gangs that can't shoot straight? > • Guest Commentary: Education secretary could learn much from public schools > • Guest commentary: State should create Tax Revision Commission > More Commentary > > • Guest Commentary: The ultimate service business > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Mar 5 15:33:27 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 15:33:27 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary In-Reply-To: References: <2C144EA9-146A-49D3-81F5-35B737D8331D@illinois.edu> Message-ID: I also get into this in my course on International Human Rights Law where I train my future lawyers to do the same. Of course the rest of this Nazi Law Faculty are training their future lawyers to commit war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide by emulating Killer Koh. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:30 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary In my course on The Constitutional Law of U.S. Foreign Affairs I have an entire segment where I train my future lawyers what State and Local governments can do to promote peace, justice and human rights, etc.—just like we did in Urbana. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:26 AM To: 'Carl G. Estabrook' > Cc: Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary For Sure Carl. Think Universally. Act Locally. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:24 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > Subject: Re: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary Karen Aram’s column is to be commended. But shouldn't we be condemning the military and economic policies of all recent administrations - from Obama's attack on Syria to trade pacts like NAFTA - that make sanctuary sites necessary, rather than dwelling on the peculiar personality of the current US chief executive (as the vicious combination of the 'intelligence community,’ the neocons, and the Obama-Clinton Democrats encourage us to do, for their own promotion)? The local Champaign-Urbana peace group AWARE distributed the following flyer at their monthly anti-war demonstration yesterday: —CGE > On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: > > And let me commend the vigorous support we got from Mayor Laurel Prussing from the get-go. We shall miss her. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:04 AM > To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > > Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary > > Kudos to Karen and the important role she played in getting Urbana re-confirmed as a Sanctuary City. According to USA Today, Urbana is the only Sanctuary between Chicago and St. Louis. At least we tried. Champaign refused. Just like Champaign refused back in 1986. Back then going door to door against us were the American Nazi Party, the Ku Klux Klan, Phyllis Shlaffley’s Eagle Forum and the Republican Party of Champaign County. Birds of a Feather Flock Together. Fab. > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:02 AM > To: Estabrook, Carl G >; Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >;sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > > Subject: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary > > Sunday Extra: Urbana as a sanctuary city > > Top of Form > > Bottom of Form > Sun, 03/05/2017 - 7:00am | The News-Gazette > > By KAREN ARAM > For those in fear of sanctuary cities being defunded, as has been pointed out, the president must go through Congress, and it then goes to the states. > It was a threat made by the Reagan administration in the 1980s. > For those concerned we are breaking "federal laws" by being sanctuary cities, it needs to be recognized that our federal government has been breaking its own laws for decades. Whether our interventions conducted as false flags seeking regime change or by dropping bombs, sanctions that starve, or occupation in the name of "freedom." We are therefore responsible for the thousands of lives lost and destroyed, in at least seven nations. Those same seven nations for whom we now have a ban on their nationals. > For those who are undocumented, the real fear is what is happening now with the first Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids under President Dongald Trump, arresting nearly 700 immigrants in five days across the nation. A quarter of those arrested had no criminal records. > The Obama administration was responsible for the deportation of 2.7 million immigrants, more than any previous administration, and rejected numerous appeals to grant a blanket pardon to shield both DREAMERS and legal permanent residents from deportation. > The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program was provided for those who were brought to the U.S. as children and granted a two-year, renewable reprieve from deportation. > The Trump administration is now in possession of the fingerprints and addresses of all 750,000 DREAMERS fingerprints and addresses. Up to 8 million people are potential targets for deportation under Trump's January executive orders. > According to Zaina Green of the World Socialist website, David Ward, director of the National Association of Former Border Patrol Agents, speaking on Fox and Friends Monday, said that the ICE raids were "probably planned months ago under the Obama administration, but now being launched under the Trump administration." > Since the Holocaust, the question has been asked, "How could it happen, a round up of neighbors being deported often with little notice or concern?" > No one is suggesting that the current deportations taking place of the undocumented is comparable to sending people off to concentration camps or gas chambers, but sending people over borders to the unknown is nonetheless cruel. > They may not have been successful, but at least the Netherlands made the attempt at an organized, coordinated effort to save the "Jews within their nation," and they will be forever remembered "as having at least tried." > Urbana as a sanctuary city, will be remembered as having at least "tried." > Hopefully we will be successful, where other cities may not be remembered so well. > Karen Aram lives in Urbana. > Kudos to Karen and the important role she played in getting Urbana re-confirmed as a Sanctuary City. According to USA Today, Urbana is the only Sanctuary between Chicago and St. Louis. At least we tried. Champaign refused. Just like Champaign refused back in 1986. Back then going door to door against us were the American Nazi Party, the Ku Klux Klan, Phyllis Shlaffley’s Eagle Forum and the Republican Party of Champaign County. Birds of a Feather Flock Together. Fab. > > Sections (2):Guest Commentary, Opinion > More Commentary > > • Guest Commentary: The ultimate service business > • Ray Elliott/Voices: Remedy for gangs that can't shoot straight? > • Guest Commentary: Education secretary could learn much from public schools > • Guest commentary: State should create Tax Revision Commission > More Commentary > > • Guest Commentary: The ultimate service business > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Sun Mar 5 15:40:17 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 09:40:17 -0600 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary In-Reply-To: References: <2C144EA9-146A-49D3-81F5-35B737D8331D@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <2B52754B-6413-4095-BF58-0C6BFC66B1E1@illinois.edu> President Trump: End U.S. Wars “...provide for the common defence...” BRING ALL U.S. TROOPS AND WEAPONS HOME The U.S. is today making war in at least seven countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. In addition, the 70,000-member U.S. ‘Special Operations Command’ is active in no less than 70% of the countries of the world. Their activities include kidnapping (‘rendition’), torture, and murder. Since World War II, U.S. presidents have killed more than 20 million people in 37 nations. The U.S. continues to be what Martin Luther King called it long ago: “The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.” Why has our government plagued the world with war for more than two generations? The answer is simple and horrible - to protect the profits of the one percent - the American economic elite. When World War II ended in 1945, the U.S. was the only undamaged major country, and controlled the world economy, for the benefit of that one percent. In all the years since, U.S. administrations have been willing to kill people and make war to “maintain the disparity,” as American planners said. As a result, the U.S. government is today engaged in war and war provocations around the world: MIDEAST. Our anti-war group AWARE was established fifteen years ago, after the attacks of 9/11/2001, by citizens of Champaign-Urbana who realized that the U.S. government would use those crimes to justify its already long-standing attempts to exercise military control over the Mideast and its energy resources. The U.S. doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the U.S. a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries - a chokehold which benefits only the American one percent. In 2003 the US illegally invaded Iraq - and killed perhaps a million people for that purpose - and now has thousands of troops and mercenaries throughout the Mideast. UKRAINE. The Obama administration arranged the overthrow of an elected president in Ukraine and helped to install the only European government since WWII to contain Nazis. Then it encouraged an attack on the eastern Ukrainian provinces who refused to submit to the coup, killing thousands. The attack continues, while Russia tries to arrange a cease-fire (Minsk II). The Crimea region, appalled by the coup government, voted to join Russia. E. EUROPE. When East and West Germany were reunited, in 1990, the U.S. promised it would not extend NATO into Eastern Europe. But the Clinton administration broke that promise, and NATO advanced to the Russian border. In his last days in office, President Obama sent troops and tanks into Poland. The last national leader to do that was Hitler: Russia, attacked through Poland in both WWI and WWII, was understandably alarmed. S. CHINA SEA. President Obama in 2011 said that creating an American presence in the Asia Pacific was his "top priority.” His “pivot to Asia” is a U.S. military build-up that threatens China’s trade routes, but for America's arms industry, the prize is huge profits. And the danger of confrontation grows by the day. * * * The U.S. government says we’re fighting terrorism, but we are in fact creating terrorists - in response particularly to the drone assassinations, “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - which have killed more than 5,000 people, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children. William Blum (author of “Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II”) writes, “If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize - very publicly and very sincerely - to all the widows and the orphans, the impoverished and the tortured, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. I would then announce that America's global interventions - including the awful bombings - have come to an end. And I would inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the union but – oddly enough – a foreign country. I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims and repair the damage from the many American bombings and invasions...” ANTI-WAR ANTI-RACISM EFFORT - on Facebook at ~ U.S. troops & weapons out of the Mideast! ~ Medicare for all! ~ Universal basic income! ~ =================================================================================== [Flyer distributed at the regular monthly demonstration by the “Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort" of Champaign-Urbana, 4 March 2017] ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Mar 5 15:43:31 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 15:43:31 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary In-Reply-To: <2B52754B-6413-4095-BF58-0C6BFC66B1E1@illinois.edu> References: <2C144EA9-146A-49D3-81F5-35B737D8331D@illinois.edu> <2B52754B-6413-4095-BF58-0C6BFC66B1E1@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Yeah, and I want to commend Carl for letting my start my Campaign against Killer Koh and the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty on his Aware TV Program. We all do what we can where we can. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:40 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: Re: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary President Trump: End U.S. Wars “...provide for the common defence...” BRING ALL U.S. TROOPS AND WEAPONS HOME The U.S. is today making war in at least seven countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. In addition, the 70,000-member U.S. ‘Special Operations Command’ is active in no less than 70% of the countries of the world. Their activities include kidnapping (‘rendition’), torture, and murder. Since World War II, U.S. presidents have killed more than 20 million people in 37 nations. The U.S. continues to be what Martin Luther King called it long ago: “The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.” Why has our government plagued the world with war for more than two generations? The answer is simple and horrible - to protect the profits of the one percent - the American economic elite. When World War II ended in 1945, the U.S. was the only undamaged major country, and controlled the world economy, for the benefit of that one percent. In all the years since, U.S. administrations have been willing to kill people and make war to “maintain the disparity,” as American planners said. As a result, the U.S. government is today engaged in war and war provocations around the world: MIDEAST. Our anti-war group AWARE was established fifteen years ago, after the attacks of 9/11/2001, by citizens of Champaign-Urbana who realized that the U.S. government would use those crimes to justify its already long-standing attempts to exercise military control over the Mideast and its energy resources. The U.S. doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the U.S. a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries - a chokehold which benefits only the American one percent. In 2003 the US illegally invaded Iraq - and killed perhaps a million people for that purpose - and now has thousands of troops and mercenaries throughout the Mideast. UKRAINE. The Obama administration arranged the overthrow of an elected president in Ukraine and helped to install the only European government since WWII to contain Nazis. Then it encouraged an attack on the eastern Ukrainian provinces who refused to submit to the coup, killing thousands. The attack continues, while Russia tries to arrange a cease-fire (Minsk II). The Crimea region, appalled by the coup government, voted to join Russia. E. EUROPE. When East and West Germany were reunited, in 1990, the U.S. promised it would not extend NATO into Eastern Europe. But the Clinton administration broke that promise, and NATO advanced to the Russian border. In his last days in office, President Obama sent troops and tanks into Poland. The last national leader to do that was Hitler: Russia, attacked through Poland in both WWI and WWII, was understandably alarmed. S. CHINA SEA. President Obama in 2011 said that creating an American presence in the Asia Pacific was his "top priority.” His “pivot to Asia” is a U.S. military build-up that threatens China’s trade routes, but for America's arms industry, the prize is huge profits. And the danger of confrontation grows by the day. * * * The U.S. government says we’re fighting terrorism, but we are in fact creating terrorists - in response particularly to the drone assassinations, “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - which have killed more than 5,000 people, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children. William Blum (author of “Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II”) writes, “If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize - very publicly and very sincerely - to all the widows and the orphans, the impoverished and the tortured, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. I would then announce that America's global interventions - including the awful bombings - have come to an end. And I would inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the union but – oddly enough – a foreign country. I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims and repair the damage from the many American bombings and invasions...” ANTI-WAR ANTI-RACISM EFFORT - on Facebook at ~ U.S. troops & weapons out of the Mideast! ~ Medicare for all! ~ Universal basic income! ~ =================================================================================== [Flyer distributed at the regular monthly demonstration by the “Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort" of Champaign-Urbana, 4 March 2017] ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Mar 5 15:51:09 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 15:51:09 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary References: <2C144EA9-146A-49D3-81F5-35B737D8331D@illinois.edu> <2B52754B-6413-4095-BF58-0C6BFC66B1E1@illinois.edu> Message-ID: And then David Johnson let me follow it up on his radio program with my Campaign against Killer Koh and the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty. My sincere thanks to David. And to all of you who showed up on October 28 and those who were not there but supported us like Jay and Amanda. We stood up against these American Nazis. In Urbana too—as Karen pointed out in her letter today. Fab. 37. Stanlingrad We got off the boat at the dock Walking into town I was asked Could I lay some flowers At the War Memorial On the Banks of the Volga? Of course I said yes Honored and pleased My Dad had fought the Japanese At Saipan and Tinian and Okinawa Nazis were not his war But We were all Allies together In the Noble Cause to Defeat Fascism As I neared the Statue On the Banks of the Volga Young Komsomol Girl appeared All dressed in white Carrying a wreath of red roses She gave to me A band was playing Joyful, not somber, but subdued Town Elders assembled Sun was shining Most beautiful day On the Banks of the Volga I lay my wreath of roses To the Defenders and Victims of Stalingrad Bowed my head in silent reflection If the Soviets had not held at Stalingrad All Europe today would be speaking German And saluting: Heil Hitler! Deutschland, Deutschland But not Uber Alles My Dad was smiling On the Banks of the Volga 38. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Carl G. Estabrook' Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary Yeah, and I want to commend Carl for letting my start my Campaign against Killer Koh and the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty on his Aware TV Program. We all do what we can where we can. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:40 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; Karen Aram >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green > Subject: Re: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary President Trump: End U.S. Wars “...provide for the common defence...” BRING ALL U.S. TROOPS AND WEAPONS HOME The U.S. is today making war in at least seven countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. In addition, the 70,000-member U.S. ‘Special Operations Command’ is active in no less than 70% of the countries of the world. Their activities include kidnapping (‘rendition’), torture, and murder. Since World War II, U.S. presidents have killed more than 20 million people in 37 nations. The U.S. continues to be what Martin Luther King called it long ago: “The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.” Why has our government plagued the world with war for more than two generations? The answer is simple and horrible - to protect the profits of the one percent - the American economic elite. When World War II ended in 1945, the U.S. was the only undamaged major country, and controlled the world economy, for the benefit of that one percent. In all the years since, U.S. administrations have been willing to kill people and make war to “maintain the disparity,” as American planners said. As a result, the U.S. government is today engaged in war and war provocations around the world: MIDEAST. Our anti-war group AWARE was established fifteen years ago, after the attacks of 9/11/2001, by citizens of Champaign-Urbana who realized that the U.S. government would use those crimes to justify its already long-standing attempts to exercise military control over the Mideast and its energy resources. The U.S. doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the U.S. a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries - a chokehold which benefits only the American one percent. In 2003 the US illegally invaded Iraq - and killed perhaps a million people for that purpose - and now has thousands of troops and mercenaries throughout the Mideast. UKRAINE. The Obama administration arranged the overthrow of an elected president in Ukraine and helped to install the only European government since WWII to contain Nazis. Then it encouraged an attack on the eastern Ukrainian provinces who refused to submit to the coup, killing thousands. The attack continues, while Russia tries to arrange a cease-fire (Minsk II). The Crimea region, appalled by the coup government, voted to join Russia. E. EUROPE. When East and West Germany were reunited, in 1990, the U.S. promised it would not extend NATO into Eastern Europe. But the Clinton administration broke that promise, and NATO advanced to the Russian border. In his last days in office, President Obama sent troops and tanks into Poland. The last national leader to do that was Hitler: Russia, attacked through Poland in both WWI and WWII, was understandably alarmed. S. CHINA SEA. President Obama in 2011 said that creating an American presence in the Asia Pacific was his "top priority.” His “pivot to Asia” is a U.S. military build-up that threatens China’s trade routes, but for America's arms industry, the prize is huge profits. And the danger of confrontation grows by the day. * * * The U.S. government says we’re fighting terrorism, but we are in fact creating terrorists - in response particularly to the drone assassinations, “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - which have killed more than 5,000 people, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children. William Blum (author of “Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II”) writes, “If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize - very publicly and very sincerely - to all the widows and the orphans, the impoverished and the tortured, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. I would then announce that America's global interventions - including the awful bombings - have come to an end. And I would inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the union but – oddly enough – a foreign country. I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims and repair the damage from the many American bombings and invasions...” ANTI-WAR ANTI-RACISM EFFORT - on Facebook at ~ U.S. troops & weapons out of the Mideast! ~ Medicare for all! ~ Universal basic income! ~ =================================================================================== [Flyer distributed at the regular monthly demonstration by the “Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort" of Champaign-Urbana, 4 March 2017] ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 5 18:24:27 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 18:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] J is for Junk Economics References: <1895961857.1418759.1488738267533.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1895961857.1418759.1488738267533@mail.yahoo.com> Transcript of 5 interviews, total about 1 hour, The Real News Network: SHARMINI PERIES: Michael, so your book reminds me ofRaymond Williams' key words, "It was an incredible contribution tocultural criticism, a criticism of society and cultural studies as adiscipline." And I think it is going to make a phenomenal contribution tothe field of economics, your book, and it would be a reference for people to goback, especially students to go back, and look at your version of thedefinition of these terms and looking at economics from that critical prism.So, my first question to you is really about this book. Why did you write it?MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, I originally wrote it as anappendix to a book to have been called, "The Fictitious Economy," andthe book was written before the 2008 crisis. And my point was that the way theeconomy is described in the press and the way that it's described in Universitycourses has very little to do with how the economy really works. And in a way,the press reports and the journalistic reports of the economy are... use aterminology that is very well crafted euphemisms to conceal how the economyworks. So, instead of giving key words to explain what'spositive and how to understand the economy, which I do do, I also discuss allof the misleading vocabulary, the Orwellian double-think that is used by themedia and by the bank lobbyists and the corporate lobbyists to confuse peopleand make them think that poverty is wealth and to make them act against theirown interests by drawing a kind of picture of the economy as if it's a paralleluniverse. And this is parallel universe language they use and ifyou can make people use a vocabulary and concepts that make it appear as ifwhen the 1% gets richer, the whole economy is getting richer, or when GDP goesup, everybody is improving, then the people, the 95% who did not improve theirposition from 2008 to 2016 somehow will suffer from the Stockholm syndrome.They'll think, "Gee, it must be my fault. If the whole economy is growing,why am I so worse off? It must be my fault. If only we can give more money tothe top 5% or the 1%, it'll all trickle down. We've got to cut taxes and helpthem so they can give me a job because as Trump and other people said, Well, Inever met a poor person who gave me a job." But the problem is, I've met a lot of rich people andinstead of giving people jobs when they buy a company, they usually get moneyto fire people, downsize and outsource. So, the problem is you're not going toget rich people giving you jobs either. But if people can somehow think intheir mind there's an association with... between wealth at the top and moreemployment, and you have to somehow cut the taxes on the wealthy, because it'llall trickle down, then they have an upside down view of how the economy works. Well, I'd had an appendix to the book and that sort oftook on a life of its own. Everyone said look, you've got to have thisdiscussion, because if you have a vocabulary that actually describes how theworld and the economy works, then people can go, just one word lead to anotherand you build up a more realistic picture of the economy. So, I not onlydiscuss words and vocabulary, I discuss some of the key individuals and the keyeconomists who've made contributions that don't appear in the academic curriculumat all. There's a reason that the history of economic thoughtis not taught anymore in the universities. If people really read what AdamSmith wrote and John Stewart Mill wrote, they'd see that Adam Smith criticizedthe landlords. Said, you've got to tax away. It's a free lunch. Mill said rentis what landlords make in their sleep, without working. Adam Smith said,whenever businessmen get together they're going to conspire as to how to getmoney from the public at large and how to do a deal and mislead people.This is not exactly the kind of free enterprise thatpeople who talk about Adam Smith as if he were a tax cutter, an Austrianeconomist or a Neoliberal want to hear. So, it's really a book about realityeconomics and I've found to discuss reality economics I'm not going to givethem the language or the methodology that they use. That everything is anequilibrium and if you think of the economy as always being an equilibriumsomehow you think that if you're poor, or you can't pay your debt, or you haveproblems sending your kids to school, that's part of nature. And there isn't analternative. And that was what Margaret Thatcher said, "There is noalternative." But this book is all about of course there's an alternative.But to make an alternative, you need an alternative way of looking at theworld. And to do that you, as George Orwell said, you need a differentvocabulary.SHARMINI PERIES: And speaking of vocabulary and ofcourse, euphemistic economic concepts, and that's what's so unique about thisbook, because it's not just the words, like in Raymond Williams' but it's alsoabout the theory and the concepts that we are tackling, and you also talkedabout businessmen and how they use these terminologies in order to mislead us.So, here we have a businessman in office, as President of the United States,who is proposing all kinds of economic reforms supposedly in our favor, interms of workers. And you know, the big infrastructure projects that he isproposing that's supposed to elevate and lift people out of poverty and givethem jobs and so on. What is the mythology there?MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, you just used the word reformand when I grew up for a century before, reform meant you unionize labor. Youprotect consumers. You regulate the economy so that there's less fraud inconsumers. But reform today is used by the International Monetary Fund inGreece. They're insisting Greece to reforms. What's the reform? You lower wagesby 10 or 20%. You cut back the pensions by about 50%. You stop paying pensions.You stop social spending. So, what you've had is an inversion of thevocabulary. Reform now means the opposite of what it meant early in thecentury. It's no longer Social Democratic. It's right wing, anti-labor,pro-financial reform to basically cutback social spending and leave everythingin a privatized way to the wealthy, to the corporate sector. So, reform is the very first word that I'd use thatyou have to realize how the meaning has changed as it's used in the press.Basically, what the right wing has done in this country is take all thevocabulary that was developed by the left wing and by the labor movement and bythe socialist economists for a century and they've appropriated it and hijackedit and turned it into meaning the opposite. So, there are 400 words that I dealwith and many of these words show how the meaning has been turned upside downto get people to have an upside down view of how the economy works.SHARMINI PERIES: Alright, there's so much more tounpack here, but we're going to do this in short segments for social media andother people that are watching our conversations. And this is a series ofconversations we're going to have about your book and the misleading conceptsin it. So, Michael, let's continue in segment two. SHARMINI PERIES: So Michael, now one of the thingsthat you really try to tackle in this book is, of course, the euphemisticconcepts of economics, and Trumps economic plan has focused on infrastructureinvestment, as one of its key plans for the economy. And of course, he saysthat this will create a better business climate, and create good jobs. What doyou think of that?MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, everybody is in favor ofinfrastructure, and if you look, since the very beginning of civilization, withthe Pyramids, and the Temples, and the city walls, most of the capitalinvestment in every country of the world, even today, is in infrastructure.That's why the banks, and the corporations, and the rich people, want toprivatize it, because if you privatize it, then this is like conquering a newcountry. You can take into your own hands, for your own profit,the largest capital investment there is, what used to be in the public domain.The roads, the railroads, the airline companies, the water and sewer systems,everything that people need, the schools -- you can somehow privatize, andinstead of providing them to the economy, to make the economy operate at alower cost, you can make people pay two or three times as much. You can vastlyincrease the cost of the economy, without increasing wages, squeeze the livingstandards, and suck up more and more money to the very top of the economicpyramid. So, I do talk about infrastructure in the book, but Ialso talk about individuals. And one individual, in the dictionary that I use,is Simon Patten, who was the first economics professor at the first businessschool in the United States, the Wharton School, at the University ofPennsylvania. And Patten said there are four factors of production.Classical economics talks about three factors of income -- land, labor andcapital. But there's a fourth factor of production, and that's publicinfrastructure. However, the function of public infrastructure, Patten said --and this is the capitalist saying it, this is the business school -- thefunction of public infrastructure, roads, schools, is not to make a profit,like a private investor would do, but to lower the cost of living, and lowerthe cost of business, to make the economy more competitive. So, if a country does what the United States did, andfinance a vast public school system, public education system for agriculturaleducation, low cost roads, low cost transportation, water and sewers, parks,communications -- if you provide all of this either freely, or at least at avery subsidized price -- then you're going to undersell economies that don'tsocialize the means of production. And that's why, Patten said, socialized economies withactive pubic infrastructure, can undersell other economies. Because imagine ifyou're competing with an economy that does what Margaret Thatcher did inEngland. Where you privatize the electric company, everybody's electric ratesgo up, double and triple. Privatize the roads, privatize the airlines, well,the private owners are going to want to make -- first of all, they're going towant to borrow all of the money to invest, and they're going to pay interest onall of this. And they're, usually the rate of return over and above interest bythe privatizers in the United States, they're 12%. That's Romney, and other people, who have hedge funds,that are privatizing. They're going to add all sorts of managerial costs;interest, profits, and they're going to make a capital gain on the stock. Andall of these payments to the private participants, in what's called aprivate-public partnership, all of this is going to vastly increase the cost ofthis infrastructure. And you can look at what happened in Indiana, forinstance, when it built a toll road. The state borrowed money, said we need ahighway, absolutely true. Every state needs highways. And we're going to have atoll, and needless to say, they set the toll so high, to pay the privateinvestors so much money, and so that they could pay the bank so much money. Andthey could pay the stockholders so much money, that drivers in Indiana didn'tuse the toll road. So, there's a clause in the private-public partnershipnow, that if a state lets a private investor build a toll road, you can't buildany other roads. You have to force people to use the toll road. This is not afree choice economy. This is, you want to steer everybody in... You want tomake the infrastructure into a monopoly. Well, the whole purpose of public investment for 100years in the United States was to prevent monopolies. That's why we hadanti-monopoly regulations. That's why America put into effect the anti-monopolyrules. And that's what made America so much more competitive in the late 19thcentury, and the early 20th century. And it was able to undersell Europeancountries, and other countries that followed the private emphasis of publicpartnerships. So, the public-private partnership isn't really a partnershipat all. It's, you socialize the losses, and you privatize the profits, and youturn this infrastructure, instead of society being the benefit of roads,schools, cable TV systems, communication systems. Instead of providing all ofthis technology to society at a low cost, or even freely, to lower, so thatpeople don't have to earn enough wages to pay all these costs. All of a suddenyou raise all the costs. And what this is doing is, squeezing family budgets. For instance, by privatizing healthcare, people haveto pay much higher health insurance in America than anyone else. Because youhave to pay the insurance companies, you don't have monopoly rules against thepharmaceutical companies. You don't even bargain with them, to buy in thecheapest market. You buy in the most expensive market, because they're yourcampaign contributors, and that's what you've promised to do. So, this idea of the way that Trump will try to do aninfrastructure is exactly the upside-down way to do it, the wrong way to do it.It's to make his class rich. And if you're building, say, transportation,you're going to vastly increase the value of real estate, all along thistransportation. If you build new schools, you make the neighborhood moredesirable for people to go. Normally, the whole idea of classical economics was,you recapture all of this value that you've created by pubic investment. Youself-finance it by recapturing it as taxes. That wouldn't be the case withTrump. He's not going to recapture anything. You privatize all the benefits ofthe infrastructure, and his aim is make sure that the population at large getszero benefit from it. That all the benefit goes to the financiers, and thecorporate owners.SHARMINI PERIES: Why are you so apprehensive? I mean,when you... when Trump talks about the cost of pharmaceuticals, for example, hesays the problem is that we don't negotiate the price with the pharmaceuticalcompanies, and he's a negotiator. He's a businessman. So, why shouldn't webelieve him?MICHAEL HUDSON: We should hold his feet to the fire.We should say, "Hey, this is what you said. Nice to hear, but is itrhetoric? When are you going to do this?" And he's going to try to say,"Oh, Congress won't let me, the Republican Congress." But okay,"When are you going to run against these candidates, and supportcandidates who will support what you're trying to do?" So, he'll say,"That's not my department." So, nice rhetoric, nice promise, butwe've already had, how many years of broken promises by politicians?SHARMINI PERIES: Yeah. And also as a businessman, andhaving run the Trump Empire, it seems almost an antithesis, in terms of hisattitude, and approach to business.MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, he's made his business in realestate. And the way that most real estate people make money is by having publicinvestment to increase the value of their real estate. And in one of our shows,we talked about the Second Avenue subway in New York, that's increased thevalue of property all along the Second Avenue subway line. But they did it byraising the price on the subway fares. They did it by raising the taxes in New York City,same thing in Vancouver, Canada, which we also talked about. They're putting avalue-added tax on, to build transportation that's going to vastly increasewhat the landlords own. That's how Trump made his money. So, of course he thinks this is a wonderful way tocreate wealth. Well, it creates wealth for him, but the wealth that he makes iswealth that should accrue to the population as a whole, and it didn't. That'swhy he got wealthy, and the rest of New Yorkers didn't. SHARMINI PERIES: All right, Michael, in this book -- and we're now insegment three -- and we are going to talk about Trump's plan to lower taxes. Hehas said that he would reduce corporate taxes from 35% to 15%. The 35% itselfis a bit of a myth, because I don't think there are too many corporations outthere who do pay the 35%. But he's going to reduce the number of tax bracketsas well, he says, from seven to three. And your myth number 11, which is progressive incometaxes should be abolished in favor of flat tax, is a myth, just one tax ratefor everyone. Does this make any sense to you? MICHAEL HUDSON: It certainly makes sense, if you're amember of the 1%, and you want to avoid paying taxes, and you want the taxes tobe paid by the 99%, makes perfect sense for them. That's their dream. And ifyou want to see where Trump is moving, you want to look at what the UnitedStates neo-liberals did in advising Russia after 1991, when it said we're goingto create an ideal economy. Russia was under the impression that theneo-liberal advisors were going to make Russia as rich as the United States,but what they really did was create a kleptocracy that was virtually tax-free. On the flat tax, where you... the more you compressthe tax rates, the more you untax where the income's really made, at the top ofthe pyramid, most of the income is made by the top 5%, or 10%. And if youcompress the tax rates, then basically, you shift the tax burden much more ontothe lower tax brackets. SHARMINI PERIES: How does that happen? MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, because the vast majority oftaxes are paid by the 10 per... I'll give an example. Since... between 2008 and2016, all of the growth in the American economy, all of the growth in income,was earned just by the wealthiest 5% of the population. So, they got all thegrowth. And 95% of the population didn't grow. Well, if you can get a flat taxor a lower tax, what Trump is suggesting, then this rich 5% that already gotall the growth, will be able to make even more money, and the 95% will be evenpoorer than they were before, relative to the very top. Now, Trump's idea is, well, if we cut the taxes on thewealthiest brackets, it'll all trickle down. But it doesn't trickle down,because what do the 5%, or the 1% use their money for? They lend more money tothe economy at large, they load it down with debt. They make their money bylending to the bottom 95%, or the bottom 99%. And when you give them moremoney, it enables them to buy even more control of government, even morecontrol of the election campaigns. They're not going to spend this money backinto the economy. They're going to spend the money, basically, on buyingmore corporate shares, buying more bonds, spending the money abroad, buyingforeign bonds in foreign companies. They're not going to spend it on thedomestic economy. So, you're going to have just the income that the averagewage earner gets, sucked up. They'll get a little more of the lower taxes, but theplan to finance all of these tax cuts is, you're going to cut back the socialservices, or you're going to privatize the economy, so the workers and thewage-earners, are going to have to spend much more of the income that they geta little bit of a tax break on. Much more on the cost of public services,education, healthcare, and everything else, while the economy basically isderegulated, they'll pay more money for the monopolies; pay more money to thebanks. And it's going to be a redistribution of wealth upward, not downward. SHARMINI PERIES: Now, the seven categories of taxbrackets we have now, hasn't really been progressive in any sense, in the senseof... it might be more than what Trump is proposing, but it really has nottaxed the wealthy enough. Even the Warren Buffetts of the world are saying,"You know, I pay less taxes than my secretary." How does that figurein in terms of your book, and mythologies that we are... forced to buy into?MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, one... the main mythology peoplethink of is, the rich people get wealthy by earning money. But that's not howrich people get money. Almost all of the gains of the rich people since 1945have been capital gains. They've been the increased value of real estate; thestock market has gone up 10%, just since Trump was elected, huge capital gain.Nobody's earned any more. But the stock market has gone up. Since 2008, you'vehad the largest bond market rally in history, as the Federal Reserve floodedthe economy with, essentially quantitative easing, to drive down bond rates...interest rates. When you drive down the interest rates, there's a huge boom inthe stock market. So, capital gains, is how the wealthy are really making themoney. They're not treated as income. That's treated as something else. And inreal estate, you never have to pay a capital gains tax. It's a zero, decadeafter decade, century after century. Because if you sell a property, and you make a capitalgain, but you buy a new property, it's not taxed. If you're a wealthy personwith a trust fund, and you sell stocks, and you make your 10% gains, sinceDonald Trump, but then you buy other stocks, you can avoid taxation. And if youdecide to hold your wealth offshore, in a Panamanian fund, like the Russiankleptocrats do, and more and more Americans do, you don't have to pay any taxat all, because it's not American income, it's unearned income. That's why Apple Computer and Microsoft... that's whythe big information technology companies have so much money abroad. They makeit in Ireland. They have one office, that could be a postal drop box inIreland, and they say that they make all their money there, don't make a pennyin America. The oil industry, the biggest industry, next to realestate is oil, gas, natural resources. Doesn't make a penny. They don't have anincome tax. Rich people actually don't earn anything at all, because if youearn a profit, you have to pay a tax on it. So, it's all about what accountantsdeclare as profit, and this is something that's not taught in academic schools.In the textbooks that people who are in economics,they're not taught how do you avoid paying any income tax at all. But that'swhat an army of tax lawyers, of corporate tax accountants do. And Trump's idea,basically, is to claim that he's shifting the taxes, and making them moredemocratic for the people, but it actually is a vast sucking of income andwealth upward. SHARMINI PERIES: And let's talk about loopholes in thecontext of taxes. I mean, when I earlier said that the 35% that is currently inplace, is hardly paid by the corporations, and you are making reference tothat. But give us some examples of these loopholes, and of course, the issue isalso how to address these loopholes, and if you have any solutions for that. MICHAEL HUDSON: The very worst loophole, is whatDonald Trump has talked about, and he said it's the tax deductibility ofinterest. He said if you let building owners, or if you let corporate raiders,borrow the money to buy a company, and then instead of paying dividends to thestockholders, you'll load the company you take over, with so much debt, you'regoing to pay bondholders. But you don't have to pay... you can deduct theinterest from your tax liability. So, if you pay interest to bondholders, and let's saythe corporate interest rate is, what it was when the process began in the1980s, 50%, you can pay twice as much of your corporate cash flow tobondholders, as you could pay to stockholders, but in the process you load downcorporations with debt. That's what's happened today, is debt leveraging. Now,Trump has said he wants to remove the tax deductibility of interest. That's thesingle most important loophole there is, and if he could do that, that's fine. But I suspect that Trump knows that it's not thePresident that decides the tax policy. It's Congress. And he knows that theRepublicans who he helped bring into power, in Congress, and in the Senate, thelast thing they're going to do, is close the very biggest tax loophole in theUnited States. That is the whole basis for the corporate raider movement, forthe corporate takeover movement, for the financialization of industry, for thereal estate sector, for the oil and gas sector. The last... you're going tohave every lobbyist in the country watering down this loophole. So, Trump is making a promise that sounds absolutelygreat. It's a promise that cannot be done politically, under Congress as it'snow set up. Yet he knows it won't be done. It's an easy promise to make, and hecan then go to the people and say, "Oh, I wanted to help you folks.Congress wouldn't let me." PERIES: It's The Real News Network. I'm SharminiPeries coming to you from Baltimore. I am speaking with Michael Hudson in our studio in Baltimoreabout his new book, "J Is For Junk Economics: A Guide to Reality in theAge of Deception".Thank you again for joining me.MICHAEL HUDSON: Good to be here. SHARMINI PERIES: So, Michael, one of the concepts thatyou deal with is really about balancing the budget, the whole mythologysurrounding that. Which is your myth number 17 where you say, "Governmentbudget deficits are bad. Balanced budgets are good. And budget surpluses areeven better." What's wrong with this? MICHAEL HUDSON: The popular press acts as if somehowthe government balance sheet, the governments act like a family. And just asfamilies have to balance the budgets, governments have to. But this is a falseanalogy because if you spend more than you earn, you can't write an I.O.U. andthen this I.O.U. everybody else can spend as if there's money. You have to, atsome point, pay the I.O.U., usually with interest, to the bank. But that's notthe case with the government. When a government runs a budget deficit it can doso in the way that Abraham Lincoln funded the Civil War, you print the money.And you print the money to pump money into the economy, if you spend it intothe economy. Almost every year until the 1990s, the United States,like every other country in the world, increases the foreign debt by running abudget deficit, by spending money into the economy for infrastructure, forschooling, for roads and this is what enables the economy to grow. This stoppedunder the Clinton administration in the 1990s. At the end of the administrationhe fell for this neo-liberal theory that you should balance the budget and heactually ran a budget surplus. So the government stopped spending money intothe economy. The result was the economy had to depend on somebodycreating the money. If the government doesn't who creates the spending power?Well, the answer was the banks. That Clinton did exactly what he was told to doby the Secretary of the Treasury, Robert Rubin, and said, "Let the bankscreate all the money and charge interest instead of the government creatingmoney just by spending it like the greenbacks were spent." The advantageof the government creating money is you don't have to pay interest and it'sself-financing. The people talked about, look at how large the government debt isand yet this is debt that never has to be repaid. Adam Smith wrote that nogovernment has ever paid its debt. Now, I think it's easier for most Americans tounderstand this by looking at Europe instead of the United States. Europe,under the Eurozone, central banks are not allowed to create money. And as aresult the economies of Europe are all shrinking into austerity. Greece is themost notorious example. Here you have unemployment among youth up to 50%. Youhave the economy suffering in the last five years for the worst depressionsince the 1930s. And yet the government is not able to spend the money tocreate public rebuilding of the economy and the banks won't let them do itbecause they're trying, basically the idea of the neo-liberals who are tryingto prevent the government from spending money is to say, "Well, if thegovernment can't run a deficit then it can't spend money on roads andinfrastructure and schools, they'll have to privatize it." And if we can privatize the economy then we can turnthe whole public sector into a monopoly. We can treat what used to be thegovernment sector as a new financial monopoly. And instead of giving freeschooling we can make people pay $50,000 to get a college education or $50,000to get a grade school education, as you have to if you go to New York privateschools. We can turn the roads into toll roads. We can charge people for waterand we can charge for what used to be given for free under the old style ofRoosevelt capitalism and social democracy. So what this idea that the government should notcreate money is, governments shouldn't act as governments. The governmentshould be Wall Street. Instead of governments planning on how to allocateresources to help the economy grow, Wall Street should be the allocator ofresources and we'll starve the government. And that's what the Republicanssaid. We want to starve the government to a point where it can be drowned inthe bath tub. And if you don't have a government who is going togovern? Obviously the people with the money. It will be Wall Street, it will bethe corporate sector and this claim for a balanced budget is saying, "Wedon't want the government to fund public infrastructure we want it to be privatizedin a way that will generate profits for the owners, interest rates for the bondholders and the banks that fund it, management fees and most of all capitalgains for the stockholders and we will jack up the prices for publicservices." The reason why all of the European countries, all of the UnitedStates and North American countries ran budget deficits for so many years isbecause they want to keep this infrastructure in the public domain, they don'twant it to be privatized. Because the kind of things that government spendsmoney on, roads, railroads, schools, water are exactly the kind of things thatpeople absolutely need and they're the last things that you want to beprivatized. Because if they're privatized instead of the government spending onit, then they can be monopolized. And all of these public spending programs arereally for natural monopolies. And the whole idea of a well-run economy is to preventa natural monopoly. Well, this was not done in Russia and you just have to lookat the disaster of Russia under the neo-liberals, since 1991, the hugeimmigration rates, the shortening life spans, the rise in disease rates, risein drug use, you can see how demoralizing a country is if you can just stop thegovernment from spending money into the economy, causing austerity, loweringliving standards and really putting the class war into business. So what Trumpis suggesting is putting the class war into business, financially, with anexclamation point. SHARMINI PERIES: You talked about the implications ofcutting government spending and, in fact, your myth number 18 deals with this.You say that cutbacks in public spending will bring the government budget intobalance, restoring stability. And you just demonstrated through the Russianexample that this is quite misleading and, in fact, it has the opposite effectand destabilizes the population. So this policy Trump seems to endorse thecutback in public spending -- give us some examples of how this could affectsociety, specifically.MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, you used the word"stability" and this is a kind of slogan to prevent thought. Andthat's what George Orwell said, he didn't use the word "junkeconomics" but he said that's what a double-think is. The function is toprevent thought. Stability is very much akin to the great moderation. Rememberhow economists running up to the 2008 crisis said, "This is a greatmoderation." And what made it moderate? Well, Alan Greenspan went before the Senate Committeeand gave a long talk on what is it that's made America so stable? Well, we nowknow it was the most unstable decade in a century. It was a decade of financialfraud, it was a decade where economic inequality between wealth and the rest ofthe economy widened. And Greenspan said, "What's stable is the workershaven't gone on strike. The workers are so deeply in debt they owe so muchmoney that they're one paycheck away from missing an electric utility paymentand they're afraid to strike. They're afraid even to protest against livingconditions. They're afraid to ask that their wages be increased to reflect theproductivity. What's stable is we, the rich people, my constituency, the fivepercent or the one percent get all of the income and the people getnothing." That is stability according to Alan Greenspan. So when you use words like stability or all of theseeuphemisms that are used are there to make people think that somehow it'sstable is the economy is slowly and slowly squeezed and that's basically whathappened in the great moderation. It was the great squeeze of everything and itwas squeezed, again, because the government was cutting back spending on socialprograms at this time. It was dismantling the whole new deal array of consumerprotection agencies, which also Trump wants to get rid of. The first thing hewanted to get rid of, for example, he said, is Elizabeth Warren's ConsumerFinancial Protection Agency. And he said, "The problem is this, it'strying to prevent fraud and that's limiting choice. Just like we let people goto McDonald's and buy junk food and buy junk sodas and get obese, we have tolet them have the free choice to put their pension funds in Wall Streetcompanies that are going to cheat them." Now, these companies have had to pay tens of billionsof dollars for financial fraud and that's bad because they've had to pay it.And we want to dismantle all of the penalties against financial fraud, againstcheating consumers. Because that's reducing the amount of money that richpeople can get and rich people are what's driving the economy. Well, they'redriving the economy by fraud. I mean, that's the kicker in all of this. So in dismantling the government spending on TheConsumer Financial Protection Agency, The Public News Agencies, The Endowmentfor the Art, you're stripping the economy away and making the American economyjust like what Margaret Thatcher did in England, you strip it away and make ita much less dynamic, much less lively place and, above all, a much poorereconomy. And that is the aim of all of these reforms which mean undoing allwhat reforms used to mean for the last century. So all of these words and thevocabulary that are used in the press all dovetail into each other into afictitious economy so that people think they're living in a parallel universe andare unable to use the vocabulary and the economic concepts to explain just whythe economy is so unfair and why they're getting squeezed so badly and how itdoesn't have to be this way. They don't have to be squeezed. But that requiresan alternative program and an alternative program means recapturing thelanguage to explain what it is you're trying to do. SHARMINI PERIES: So, Michael, on page 260 of your bookyou deal with the issue of social security and it's a myth that social securityshould be pre-funded by its beneficiaries. Progressive economic taxes should beabolished in favor of a flat tax. Just one tax rate for everyone you say. Wetalked about this earlier but let's apply what this actually means when itcomes to Social Security.MICHAEL HUDSON: The mythology is to try to convincepeople that after all, if they're the beneficiaries of social security, itshould be pre-funded. Well, that's like saying that you're the beneficiary ofan education, you have to pay for the schooling. You're the beneficiary ofhealthcare, you have to pay for that. You're the beneficiary of America'smilitary spending, that keeps us from being invaded next week by Russia, youhave to spend for all that. Where do you draw the line? Nobody really anticipatedin the 19th century that people would have to pay for their own retirement.This was viewed as an obligation of society and you had the first pensionsocial security program in Germany under Bismarck. And the whole idea is socialsecurity is a public obligation. There are certain rights of citizens and therights should be after your working life you deserve a retirement. And you haveto be able to afford this retirement and not have to beg in the street formoney. So the wool that's been pulled over people's eyes is to imagine thatbecause they're the beneficiaries of social security they have to actually payfor it. And this was Alan Greenspan, a trick that he pulledbasically in the 1980s when he was head of the Greenspan Commission. He said,"Let's achieve what we need to do in America. We need to traumatize theworkers. We need to squeeze them so much that they will never have the courageto strike. Never have the courage to ask for better working conditions. Let'sreally squeeze them and the best way to do it is to very sharply increase theirtaxation. But we won't call it a tax. Of course it's a tax, but we will sayit's not a tax, it's your contribution to your social security." And nowthis is 15.4% of everybody's pay check. It comes right off the top. WhatGreenspan did was say, "Let's make the wage earners, as a whole, pay thisFICA cut out of their pay check every month, let's lend it to the governmentand now with all of this huge surplus that we're squeezing out of the wageearners there's a cut-off point now." The cut-off is around 120,000. Richpeople don't have to pay for the social security funding, only the wage earnerclass has to. This is lent to the government to actually enable the governmentto say, "We have so much extra money in our budget pouring in from socialsecurity that now we can afford to cut taxes on the rich."So the sharp increase in social security tax for thewage earners went hand-in-hand with the sharp reduction in the taxes on realestate, on finance and on the ... TA(?) part of society. The people who live oneconomic rent, not by working, not by producing goods and services but bymaking more money on their real estate, on their stocks and bonds in theirsleep. And that's how the five percent have basically been able to make theirmoney. So the whole idea that social security has to befunded by the beneficiaries has all been a setup for them to claim now, wecan't afford to pay any of the money because the budget doesn't have enoughmoney. Social security's running a budget and after running a surplus since1933, for 70 years, now we have to begin paying it out, that's the deficit,that's the disaster, we have to begin cutting back social security. What DonaldTrump is saying we want wage earners to have to starve in the street after theyretire. The federal reserve has just published statisticssaying the average American families, 55 and 60 years old, only has about$14,000 worth of savings. This isn't enough. The whole idea is there's been avast looting of pension funds, very largely by Wall Street and that's why theinvestment banks have had to pay tens of billions of dollars of penalties forcheating the pension funds. The current rate of return risk-free is 0.1% ongovernment bonds so the pension funds don't have enough money to pay pensions.So the idea is that what people thought there was going to be available fortheir retirement, all of a sudden isn't. There are so many corporate pension funds that aregoing bankrupt that the Pension Fund Guarantee Corporation doesn't have enoughmoney to bail it out. It's in deficit. And if you're going to be a corporateraider, if you're going to be a Governor Romney or whatever and you take over acompany, you do what Sam Zell did with the Chicago Tribune, you loot thepension funds, you empty it out to pay the bond-holders that have lent you themoney to buy out the company and you say, "I'm sorry there is nothingthere. It's wiped out." Half of the employee stock ownership programs havegone bankrupt. That was already a critique made in the 1950s and the 1960s. In Chile, the Chicago boys, who really developed thisprogram, University of Chicago economists, made it possible for the Chilean whoprivatized and who privatized the social security system, to set aside apension fund managed by the company, mostly they invested in its own stock. Thecompany would then set up an affiliate that would actually own the companyunder an umbrella then leave the company with the pension fund to go bankrupthaving already emptied out all of the pension fund and a loan to be a corporateshell. So it's all a shell game basically for this. Andthere's no social security problem whatsoever. Of course, the government hasenough money to pay social security. That's what the tax system is all about.But if you do what Donald Trump does and you say we're not going to tax therich and if you do what Alan Greenspan did and we're not going to make richpeople even contribute to the social security system, then, of course, it'sgoing to show a deficit. It's supposed to show a deficit when people retired.It was always intended to show a deficit but now that the government actuallyisn't using social security surpluses to make the pretense that you can affordin the budget to cut taxes on the rich, now they're baiting and switching. Soit's basically part of the shell game and explaining that myth is partly what Itried to do in my book.SHARMINI PERIES: And if the rich people don't have tocontribute to the social security base, are they able to draw on it?MICHAEL HUDSON: They will draw social security up tothe given wage that they didn't pay social security on, which is up to $120,000these days. So yes, they will get the little bit but all of the real wealth,the people that make more than $120,000, all that is completely exempt from thesocial security system. What they have done are the rich people who run thecorporations give themselves golden parachutes. And even for the companies that have engaged inmassive financial fraud, the large banks, City Bank, Western Union -- all ofthese have golden parachutes. They still are getting enormous pensions for therest of their lives. And they're talking as if, well, the pensions are indeficit, corporate pensions, but that's because the corporate pensions, for theleading officers, are quite different from the pensions to the blue-collarworkers and the wage earners as a whole, so again, there's a whole kind offictitious economic statistics that are used in the dictionary ismathy-ness(?). The idea that if you can put a number on something it's somehowis scientific and the number you put on is realistic when it really is theproduct of corporate accountants and lobbyists reclassifying income in a waythat it doesn't appear to be income.And somehow taking money out and giving it to therichest 5% and making it appear as if all this deficit is the problem of the95%, that's blame the victim economics. And you could say that's the way thatthe economic accounts are being presented by congress to the American people isa blame the victim economics. That it's your fault social security's goingbankrupt and it's all a mythology of saying we should not treat retirement as apublic obligation just as we should not treat healthcare as a publicobligation. We should have the highest healthcare costs in the world so thatout of your pay check, which is not increasing, you're going to have to paymore and more for FICA withholding for social security, more and more forhealthcare for the pharmaceutical monopoly and the health insurance monopoly.More and more to use public services for transportation to get to work becausethe state is not funding that anymore because we've cut taxes on the rich andso we don't have the money to do it. And you're going to privatize the roads sonow you're going to have to pay to use the road to drive to work if you don'thave public transportation. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:34 PM To: 'Dianna Visek' ; Yahoogroups ; Peace at lists.chambana.net Subject: RE: [Peace] lectures on Trump, secrecy, American federalism and more These are the same Yale Law Mafia Turkeys who brought in Yale Law Mafia War Criminal Killer Koh on October 28 in order to get Yale Law Mafia Killary Klinton elected President ten days later. Why would you listen to anything they have to say about anything? Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Dianna Visek via Peace Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:21 PM To: Yahoogroups >; Peace List > Subject: [Peace] lectures on Trump, secrecy, American federalism and more The Law School is having an interesting series of lectures on current topics. See: College of Law - Master Calendar [cid:image003.jpg at 01D295F0.93E3B870] [Text Box:] College of Law - Master Calendar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 9849 bytes Desc: image003.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image004.png Type: image/png Size: 1717 bytes Desc: image004.png URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Mar 6 14:10:32 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 14:10:32 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Transport in the US, is outdated, while China's high speed rail, of ten years, is expanding across Eurasia. Message-ID: In Silicon Valley, Caltrain Upgrade Is Imperiled as Trump Withholds Funds By THOMAS FULLERMARCH 6, 2017 Continue reading the main storyShare This Page * Share * Tweet * Email * More * Save Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/04/us/00Transport-2/00Transport-2-master768.jpg] Construction was under way last month in Fresno, Calif., on the first leg of the high-speed rail line connecting San Francisco to Los Angeles. The high-speed rail project and Caltrain are administratively separate, but a 2013 agreement to share tracks as a cost-saving measure raised Republican ire.CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times SAN FRANCISCO — The engineers of Silicon Valley are fine-tuning driverless cars, building robots designed to replicate the human brain and shaving milliseconds off internet response times. Their trip to work, however, can be a throwback to the predigital age. The region’s commuter rail line is saddled with aging, smoke-spewing, diesel-powered locomotives. For more than a decade, the managers of the Silicon Valley railway, known as Caltrain, have been planning to upgrade to faster and less polluting electric trains. But those plans are now imperiled by the Trump administration’s decision in February to withhold a $647 million federal grant. Continue reading the main story ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story In this impasse, some transportation experts see a foretaste of the political infighting and financial hurdles that could plague the nationwide infrastructure projects that President Trump is promising. Reviving America’s rusted and sagging infrastructure is one of the few areas where it seemed Democrats and Republicans could agree. But making these projects a reality — the “new roads, bridges, tunnels, airports and railways gleaming across our beautiful land” that Mr. Trump enumerated to Congress last week — will require political cooperation and accommodations that are increasingly rare in ultrapartisan times. In the case of Caltrain, the decision to withhold the grant came after California’s Republican congressional delegation asked the transportation secretary, Elaine L. Chao, to withdraw funding because the electrified system also would be used for the state’s bigger high-speed rail project, a plan they vehemently oppose. The high-speed rail line connecting San Francisco to Los Angeles is the most ambitious rail plan in the country and has been in the works for more than two decades with a projected cost of $64 billion. The project calls for completion in 2029. Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/04/us/00Transport-1/00Transport-1-master675.jpg] A Caltrain station in Sunnyvale, Calif. The commuter rail line is saddled with aging, smoke-spewing, diesel-powered locomotives. CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times Despite initial support, Republicans now regard the high-speed project as too costly. “We have said no more federal dollars will go to California high-speed rail,” said Representative Jeff Denham, a Republican who is chairman of the House Subcommittee on Railroads. “We’re very strong on that position.” In an interview, Mr. Denham said the project should immediately stop. There has long been tension in California between advocates of more freeways and those favoring public transport. But the high-speed rail project had bipartisan support in its early stages. It was formally started in 1996 by Republican Gov. Pete Wilson and was supported by another Republican governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger. That consensus is long gone. The letter penned by the state’s 14 Republican members of Congress, including Kevin McCarthy, the House majority leader, called the project a “boondoggle” and described the Caltrain grant as an “irresponsible use of taxpayer dollars.” Caltrain and the high-speed rail project are administratively separate, but a 2013 agreement to share tracks as a cost-saving measure raised Republican ire. Defunding the electrification of the Silicon Valley corridor has immediate consequences for the system’s 65,000 daily commuters. Caltrain had hoped to switch to its electric system by 2021. The current trains are overcrowded and breakdowns are frequent; there are more than 19 mechanical failures per month, according to Caltrain engineers. Two-thirds of the fleet has “reached the end of its useful life,” Caltrain says. At the rail line’s maintenance depot, engineers say they have trouble finding parts for the locomotives, which were built in the 1980s. And new maintenance workers need lectures from veteran technicians because they have no experience working on such old equipment. Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/04/us/00Transport-6/00Transport-6-master675.jpg] Nick Christ doing maintenance on a Caltrain locomotive. Engineers say they have trouble finding parts for the locomotives, which were built in the 1980s. CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times “You change out parts here and there,” said Joe Navarro, director of operations and maintenance at Caltrain. “We are putting Band-Aids on. It’s very challenging.” Getting to work by car or bus is often not a better alternative in Silicon Valley. A recent study found that the San Francisco Bay Area has the nation’s third-most-congested roads. “We are lucky to live in a place where innovation is in the DNA, but we don’t see that for public transport,” said Sridhar Iyer, a software engineer for Twitter who rides the double-decker Caltrain that runs near the headquarters of Apple, Facebook and Google. “The whole thing is stuck in the past.” In recent weeks, more than a dozen leaders of Silicon Valley firms called lawmakers to urge that the federal money be released for the Caltrain electrification project, according to Carl Guardino, the president of the Silicon Valley Leadership Group, which represents most of the region’s large tech companies. Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/04/us/00Transport-3/00Transport-3-master675.jpg] Sridhar Iyer, center, a software engineer for Twitter, says of Caltrain, “The whole thing is stuck in the past.” CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times Mr. Guardino called the Republican campaign to block funding “a misinformed effort.” “The most important asset of the innovation economy are our employees,” he said. “When they are stuck and stalled in traffic they are not productively creating the future.” The specific objection by Republicans is that $600 million of state funds allocated to Caltrain’s electrification were initially authorized by a 2008 referendum on high-speed rail, known as Proposition 1A. “They are stealing Prop 1A money and using it for something else,” Mr. Denham said. Caltrain says that although the two trains will use the same tracks, the electrification project is “independent” and high-speed rail’s use of the corridor will require a separate environmental review. Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/04/us/00Transport-7/00Transport-7-master675.jpg] State Route 99’s lanes are being shifted in Fresno to make way for the high-speed rail line.CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times The bigger picture, proponents of the electrification project say, is that the commuter rail project deserves the support of the Trump administration because it meets the broad criteria of its infrastructure push — it will be made in America by American workers. Almost all of the materials for the new train system will be sourced from factories across 14 states. Caltrain estimates the project will create nearly 10,000 jobs. “This is the perfect project if you care about infrastructure, if you care about jobs and if you care about focusing on areas that are going to deliver long-term economic benefit,” said Stuart Cohen, the executive director of TransForm, a nonprofit group that advocates public transportation. The state High-Speed Rail Authority is making a similar pitch. “Every ounce of the steel, every ounce of the concrete is domestic,” Dan Richard, the authority’s chairman, said. “We are reaching out to the Trump administration to make the case that this is entirely consistent with the president’s vision.” An opinion poll by the Public Policy Institute of California last year showed a slim majority of respondents — 52 percent — support the high-speed rail project. Outside Fresno, a city in California’s Central Valley surrounded by almond and fruit orchards and racked by poverty, about 1,000 workers have been employed on the project to build viaducts and tunnels at 10 construction sites. The Finance Department of Gov. Jerry Brown, a Democrat, decided on Friday that the project was ready to lay some track and approved $2.6 billion in spending. But there are lingering questions about how the later stages of the project will be financed, especially if Congress blocks more federal support. Although the authority was established more than two decades, ago it was only in 2013 that construction began on the first, 119-mile segment of the project. Mayor Lee Brand of Fresno, a Republican, supports the project, which would make Silicon Valley a 45-minute train ride away by 2025. “I don’t look at this ideologically,” Mr. Brand said. “I look at it practically. The city of Fresno can enjoy a major benefit from what’s going on with high-speed rail. This is a poor city that needs all the help it can get.” Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/04/us/00Transport-4/00Transport-4-master675.jpg] The high-speed rail line is the most ambitious rail plan in the country and has been in the works for more than two decades with a projected cost of $64 billion. The project calls for completion in 2029.CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times Tom Richards, a real estate developer in Fresno who is on the authority’s board, said the rail connection could encourage tech companies to set up in the city and workers to commute to well-paying jobs in Silicon Valley. “This is a whole story about connecting California together,” he said. Susan Beachy contributed research. A version of this article appears in print on March 6, 2017, on Page A10 of the New York edition with the headline: Silicon Valley Rail Upgrade Is Imperiled Amid G.O.P. Ire. Order Reprints| Today's Paper|Subscribe Continue reading the main story In Silicon Valley, Caltrain Upgrade Is Imperiled as Trump Withholds Funds By THOMAS FULLERMARCH 6, 2017 Continue reading the main storyShare This Page * Share * Tweet * Email * More * Save Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/04/us/00Transport-2/00Transport-2-master768.jpg] Construction was under way last month in Fresno, Calif., on the first leg of the high-speed rail line connecting San Francisco to Los Angeles. The high-speed rail project and Caltrain are administratively separate, but a 2013 agreement to share tracks as a cost-saving measure raised Republican ire.CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times SAN FRANCISCO — The engineers of Silicon Valley are fine-tuning driverless cars, building robots designed to replicate the human brain and shaving milliseconds off internet response times. Their trip to work, however, can be a throwback to the predigital age. The region’s commuter rail line is saddled with aging, smoke-spewing, diesel-powered locomotives. For more than a decade, the managers of the Silicon Valley railway, known as Caltrain, have been planning to upgrade to faster and less polluting electric trains. But those plans are now imperiled by the Trump administration’s decision in February to withhold a $647 million federal grant. Continue reading the main story ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story In this impasse, some transportation experts see a foretaste of the political infighting and financial hurdles that could plague the nationwide infrastructure projects that President Trump is promising. Reviving America’s rusted and sagging infrastructure is one of the few areas where it seemed Democrats and Republicans could agree. But making these projects a reality — the “new roads, bridges, tunnels, airports and railways gleaming across our beautiful land” that Mr. Trump enumerated to Congress last week — will require political cooperation and accommodations that are increasingly rare in ultrapartisan times. In the case of Caltrain, the decision to withhold the grant came after California’s Republican congressional delegation asked the transportation secretary, Elaine L. Chao, to withdraw funding because the electrified system also would be used for the state’s bigger high-speed rail project, a plan they vehemently oppose. The high-speed rail line connecting San Francisco to Los Angeles is the most ambitious rail plan in the country and has been in the works for more than two decades with a projected cost of $64 billion. The project calls for completion in 2029. Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/04/us/00Transport-1/00Transport-1-master675.jpg] A Caltrain station in Sunnyvale, Calif. The commuter rail line is saddled with aging, smoke-spewing, diesel-powered locomotives. CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times Despite initial support, Republicans now regard the high-speed project as too costly. “We have said no more federal dollars will go to California high-speed rail,” said Representative Jeff Denham, a Republican who is chairman of the House Subcommittee on Railroads. “We’re very strong on that position.” In an interview, Mr. Denham said the project should immediately stop. There has long been tension in California between advocates of more freeways and those favoring public transport. But the high-speed rail project had bipartisan support in its early stages. It was formally started in 1996 by Republican Gov. Pete Wilson and was supported by another Republican governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger. That consensus is long gone. The letter penned by the state’s 14 Republican members of Congress, including Kevin McCarthy, the House majority leader, called the project a “boondoggle” and described the Caltrain grant as an “irresponsible use of taxpayer dollars.” Caltrain and the high-speed rail project are administratively separate, but a 2013 agreement to share tracks as a cost-saving measure raised Republican ire. Defunding the electrification of the Silicon Valley corridor has immediate consequences for the system’s 65,000 daily commuters. Caltrain had hoped to switch to its electric system by 2021. The current trains are overcrowded and breakdowns are frequent; there are more than 19 mechanical failures per month, according to Caltrain engineers. Two-thirds of the fleet has “reached the end of its useful life,” Caltrain says. At the rail line’s maintenance depot, engineers say they have trouble finding parts for the locomotives, which were built in the 1980s. And new maintenance workers need lectures from veteran technicians because they have no experience working on such old equipment. Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/04/us/00Transport-6/00Transport-6-master675.jpg] Nick Christ doing maintenance on a Caltrain locomotive. Engineers say they have trouble finding parts for the locomotives, which were built in the 1980s. CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times “You change out parts here and there,” said Joe Navarro, director of operations and maintenance at Caltrain. “We are putting Band-Aids on. It’s very challenging.” Getting to work by car or bus is often not a better alternative in Silicon Valley. A recent study found that the San Francisco Bay Area has the nation’s third-most-congested roads. “We are lucky to live in a place where innovation is in the DNA, but we don’t see that for public transport,” said Sridhar Iyer, a software engineer for Twitter who rides the double-decker Caltrain that runs near the headquarters of Apple, Facebook and Google. “The whole thing is stuck in the past.” In recent weeks, more than a dozen leaders of Silicon Valley firms called lawmakers to urge that the federal money be released for the Caltrain electrification project, according to Carl Guardino, the president of the Silicon Valley Leadership Group, which represents most of the region’s large tech companies. Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/04/us/00Transport-3/00Transport-3-master675.jpg] Sridhar Iyer, center, a software engineer for Twitter, says of Caltrain, “The whole thing is stuck in the past.” CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times Mr. Guardino called the Republican campaign to block funding “a misinformed effort.” “The most important asset of the innovation economy are our employees,” he said. “When they are stuck and stalled in traffic they are not productively creating the future.” The specific objection by Republicans is that $600 million of state funds allocated to Caltrain’s electrification were initially authorized by a 2008 referendum on high-speed rail, known as Proposition 1A. “They are stealing Prop 1A money and using it for something else,” Mr. Denham said. Caltrain says that although the two trains will use the same tracks, the electrification project is “independent” and high-speed rail’s use of the corridor will require a separate environmental review. Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/04/us/00Transport-7/00Transport-7-master675.jpg] State Route 99’s lanes are being shifted in Fresno to make way for the high-speed rail line.CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times The bigger picture, proponents of the electrification project say, is that the commuter rail project deserves the support of the Trump administration because it meets the broad criteria of its infrastructure push — it will be made in America by American workers. Almost all of the materials for the new train system will be sourced from factories across 14 states. Caltrain estimates the project will create nearly 10,000 jobs. “This is the perfect project if you care about infrastructure, if you care about jobs and if you care about focusing on areas that are going to deliver long-term economic benefit,” said Stuart Cohen, the executive director of TransForm, a nonprofit group that advocates public transportation. The state High-Speed Rail Authority is making a similar pitch. “Every ounce of the steel, every ounce of the concrete is domestic,” Dan Richard, the authority’s chairman, said. “We are reaching out to the Trump administration to make the case that this is entirely consistent with the president’s vision.” An opinion poll by the Public Policy Institute of California last year showed a slim majority of respondents — 52 percent — support the high-speed rail project. Outside Fresno, a city in California’s Central Valley surrounded by almond and fruit orchards and racked by poverty, about 1,000 workers have been employed on the project to build viaducts and tunnels at 10 construction sites. The Finance Department of Gov. Jerry Brown, a Democrat, decided on Friday that the project was ready to lay some track and approved $2.6 billion in spending. But there are lingering questions about how the later stages of the project will be financed, especially if Congress blocks more federal support. Although the authority was established more than two decades, ago it was only in 2013 that construction began on the first, 119-mile segment of the project. Mayor Lee Brand of Fresno, a Republican, supports the project, which would make Silicon Valley a 45-minute train ride away by 2025. “I don’t look at this ideologically,” Mr. Brand said. “I look at it practically. The city of Fresno can enjoy a major benefit from what’s going on with high-speed rail. This is a poor city that needs all the help it can get.” Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/04/us/00Transport-4/00Transport-4-master675.jpg] The high-speed rail line is the most ambitious rail plan in the country and has been in the works for more than two decades with a projected cost of $64 billion. The project calls for completion in 2029.CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times Tom Richards, a real estate developer in Fresno who is on the authority’s board, said the rail connection could encourage tech companies to set up in the city and workers to commute to well-paying jobs in Silicon Valley. “This is a whole story about connecting California together,” he said. Susan Beachy contributed research. A version of this article appears in print on March 6, 2017, on Page A10 of the New York edition with the headline: Silicon Valley Rail Upgrade Is Imperiled Amid G.O.P. Ire. Order Reprints| Today's Paper|Subscribe Continue reading the main story -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Mar 6 17:26:32 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 17:26:32 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My Alerts: POLS (2 articles) In-Reply-To: References: <58BCC404.0000000A@pmta04.ewr1.nytimes.com> Message-ID: Today’s NYT reports that the original Sanctuary Movement helped about 2,000 refugees. I think that is a gross underestimate. It has been 30+ years, but if I remember correctly, overall we helped about 30,000+. Many of them are still in this country under Extended Voluntary Departure Status. Large numbers of others made it to Canada on the Sanctuary Underground Railroad. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:38 PM To: Estabrook, Carl G ; Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: FW: My Alerts: POLS (2 articles) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:31 PM Despite what this Reagan Turkey says, they were violating the laws back in the 1980s: The UN Refugees Protocol and its domestic implementing legislation the US Refugees Act. Back then we topped out at about 550 Churches and some Synagogues. My HLS Classmate Elliot Abrams should be put in jail for his war crimes back then. Will do so if I get the chance. Fab Counsel, National Sanctuary Movement. Francis A. 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Copyright 2015 The New York Times Company | 620 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10018 [http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=hdaNaYedr2/IomeWRKt0nffrak8aSGLbvtkkq/r7ihwOf5XePlpJ1w==&user_id=2176b981368ffc2967765a92243ee072&email_type=my_alerts_email&task_id=1488765955238546®i_id=57850598] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Mar 6 18:04:11 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 18:04:11 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] This mornings rant Message-ID: We are manipulated by a media propaganda machine, disguised as “balanced” and “open minded”. Milo Yanou……… was prevented from speaking at Berkeley, by “questionable anarchists,” creating havoc, thus giving him undeserved publicity, as well as frightening off genuine dissent. As a result, the protestors who organized a peaceful protest, lost the opportunity to counteract Milo’s nonsense. Curbing ones freedom of speech is not the way to counteract lies and nonsense. However, that does not mean one should support by way of acquiescence, either. Providing a soapbox to those who wish to spread lies and propaganda is complicity. Somethings we counteract, and somethings we ignore. Knowing the difference is very important. From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 6 23:59:47 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 23:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] John Steppling References: <774873538.3829832.1488844787532.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <774873538.3829832.1488844787532@mail.yahoo.com> This little-known expatriate playwright has been given some searing and incisive if rambling and lengthy commentaries on our political plight over the past few months: John Steppling | | | | | | | | | | | John Steppling John Steppling is an original founding member of the Padua Hills Playwrig... | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Tue Mar 7 00:36:02 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 18:36:02 -0600 Subject: [Peace-discuss] John Steppling In-Reply-To: <774873538.3829832.1488844787532@mail.yahoo.com> References: <774873538.3829832.1488844787532.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <774873538.3829832.1488844787532@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A1CDEF5-4A40-461B-9CDE-F1AFE26C29FD@illinois.edu> An excellent piece - I plan to feature it on AWARE ON THE AIR tomorrow. The poets often get there first…. > On Mar 6, 2017, at 5:59 PM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: > > This little-known expatriate playwright has been given some searing and incisive if rambling and lengthy commentaries on our political plight over the past few months: > > John Steppling > > > John Steppling > John Steppling is an original founding member of the Padua Hills Playwrig... > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Mar 7 02:30:35 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 02:30:35 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] John Steppling In-Reply-To: <4A1CDEF5-4A40-461B-9CDE-F1AFE26C29FD@illinois.edu> References: <774873538.3829832.1488844787532.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <774873538.3829832.1488844787532@mail.yahoo.com>, <4A1CDEF5-4A40-461B-9CDE-F1AFE26C29FD@illinois.edu> Message-ID: One of the young men will be there tomorrow. Grant, Nick can't make it. Sent on my Virgin Mobile Phone. ------ Original message------ From: Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss Date: Mon, Mar 6, 2017 6:36 PM To: David Green; Cc: Peace-discuss List; Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] John Steppling An excellent piece - I plan to feature it on AWARE ON THE AIR tomorrow. The poets often get there first…. On Mar 6, 2017, at 5:59 PM, David Green via Peace-discuss > wrote: This little-known expatriate playwright has been given some searing and incisive if rambling and lengthy commentaries on our political plight over the past few months: John Steppling John Steppling John Steppling is an original founding member of the Padua Hills Playwrig... _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brussel at illinois.edu Tue Mar 7 03:49:10 2017 From: brussel at illinois.edu (Brussel, Morton K) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 03:49:10 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] John Steppling In-Reply-To: <774873538.3829832.1488844787532@mail.yahoo.com> References: <774873538.3829832.1488844787532.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <774873538.3829832.1488844787532@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I would agree with your adjectives, David, but would propose that at times he goes too far overboard. Not all liberals, e.g., are as perverse as he describes, are not racist or scornful of the lower economic classes. Of course, many are, as many of any persuasion are. Of course this is a polemic, and so we have to expect, or excuse? such dubious arguments. In addition, the beginning quote by Fidel about populations and birth control seem more than curious; they are stupid. Even Fidel could be stupid on certain issues! Also curious is his omitting considering the nations of western Europe, our “allies” Britain, France, Germany… Are they in the same nefarious boat as the U.S. ? But all in all, this is a passionately useful, even if too often exaggerated, commentary. —mkb On Mar 6, 2017, at 5:59 PM, David Green via Peace-discuss > wrote: This little-known expatriate playwright has been given some searing and incisive if rambling and lengthy commentaries on our political plight over the past few months: John Steppling John Steppling John Steppling is an original founding member of the Padua Hills Playwrig... _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 7 03:52:53 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 03:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] John Steppling In-Reply-To: References: <774873538.3829832.1488844787532.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <774873538.3829832.1488844787532@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <768543132.154599.1488858773399@mail.yahoo.com> No doubt, Mort, that his gifted literary/polemical head of steam often races ahead of his attention to detail and thoroughness. DG On Monday, March 6, 2017 9:49 PM, "Brussel, Morton K" wrote: I would agree with your adjectives, David, but would propose that at times he goes too far overboard.  Not all liberals, e.g., are as perverse as he describes, are not racist or scornful of the lower economic classes. Of course, many are, as many of any persuasion are. Of course this is a polemic, and so we have to expect, or excuse? such dubious arguments. In addition, the beginning quote by Fidel about populations and birth control seem more than curious; they are stupid. Even Fidel could be stupid on certain issues!   Also curious is his omitting considering the nations of western Europe, our “allies” Britain, France, Germany… Are they in the same nefarious boat as the U.S. ?  But all in all, this is a passionately useful, even if too often exaggerated, commentary.  —mkb On Mar 6, 2017, at 5:59 PM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: This little-known expatriate playwright has been given some searing and incisive if rambling and lengthy commentaries on our political plight over the past few months: John Steppling | | | | | | | | | | | John Steppling John Steppling is an original founding member of the Padua Hills Playwrig... | | | | _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Tue Mar 7 06:07:43 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 00:07:43 -0600 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Perry Anderson, on how things will stay more or less the same Message-ID: <154EB003-E6F8-4814-8D72-C504BC89EEEE@illinois.edu>  Facebook Twitter Donate Log In DONALD TRUMP HEALTH CARE IMMIGRATION POLICY REPUBLICANS PODCASTS Politics World Economy Culture Take Action Current Issue Subscribe Search EUROPEAN UNION BREXIT BETWEEN US, WE COVER THE WORLD Too Frightened to Change a Hated Order Despite profound discontent, the prospect of an exit from the neoliberal orthodoxies of the past 40 years terrifies even those who know how much they have suffered from it. By Perry Anderson TODAY 2:52 PM Facebook <>Twitter <>Email <>Print <> UKIP leader Nigel Farage (left) and European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker at the European Parliament on June 28, 2016, five days after the Brexit referendum. (AP / Geert Vanden Wijngaert) ADVERTISING The term “anti-systemic movements” was commonly used 25 years ago to characterize forces on the left in revolt against capitalism. Today, it has not lost relevance in the West, but its meaning has changed. The movements of revolt that have multiplied over the past decade no longer rebel against capitalism, but against neoliberalism—deregulated financial flows, privatized services, and escalating social inequality, that specific variant of the reign of capital set in place in Europe and America since the 1980s. The resultant economic and political order has been accepted all but indistinguishably by governments of the center-right and center-left, in accordance with the central tenet of la pensée unique, Margaret Thatcher’s dictum that “there is no alternative.” Two kinds of movement are now arrayed against this system; the established order stigmatizes them, whether from the right or left, as the menace of populism. This essay continues our exclusive collaboration with Le Monde Diplomatique, monthly publishing jointly commissioned and shared articles, both in print and online. To subscribe to LMD, go to mondediplo.com/subscribe . It is not by chance that these movements first arose in Europe rather than the United States. Sixty years after the Treaty of Rome, the reason is clear. The common market of 1957, an outgrowth of the coal-and-steel community of the Schuman Plan (designed both to prevent any reversion to a century of Franco-German hostilities and to consolidate post-war economic growth in western Europe), was the product of a period of full employment and rising popular incomes, the entrenchment of representative democracy, and the development of welfare systems. Its commercial arrangements impinged very little on the sovereignty of the nation-states composing it, which were strengthened rather than weakened. Budgets and exchange rates were determined domestically, by parliaments accountable to national electorates, in which politically contrasting policies were vigorously debated. Attempts by the Commission in Brussels to aggrandize itself were famously rebuffed by Paris. Not only France under Charles de Gaulle but, in its own more muted fashion, West Germany under Konrad Adenauer, pursued foreign policies independent of the United States and capable of defying it. The end of the trente glorieuses brought a major change in this construction. From the mid-1970s, the advanced capitalist world entered a long downturn, as analyzed by the American historian Robert Brenner: lower growth rates and slower increases in productivity, decade by decade, less employment and greater inequality, punctuated by sharp recessions. From the 1980s, starting in the UK and the US, and gradually spreading to Europe, policy directions were reversed: Welfare systems were cut back, public industries and services privatized, and financial markets deregulated. Neoliberalism had arrived. In Europe, this came over time to take a uniquely rigid institutional form: The number of member states in what became the European Union multiplied more than fourfold, incorporating a vast low-wage zone in the east. DRACONIAN AUSTERITY From monetary union in 1990 to the Stability Pact in 1997, then the Single Market Act in 2011, the powers of national parliaments were voided in a supranational structure of bureaucratic authority shielded from popular will, just as the ultraliberal economist Friedrich Hayek had prophesied. With this machinery in place, draconian austerity could be imposed on helpless electorates, under the joint direction of the Commission and a reunified Germany, now the most powerful state in the union, where leading thinkers candidly announce its vocation as continental hegemon. Externally, over the same period, the EU and its members ceased to play any significant role in the world at variance with US directives, becoming the advance guard of neo–Cold War policies towards Russia set by the US and paid for by Europe. So it is no surprise that the ever more oligarchic cast of the EU, defying popular will in successive referendums and embedding budgetary diktats in constitutional law, should have generated so many movements of protest against it. What is the landscape of these forces? In the pre-enlargement core of the EU, the western Europe of the cold-war era (the topography of eastern Europe is so different that it can be set aside for present purposes), movements of the right dominate opposition to the system in France (Front National), the Netherlands (Party for Freedom, PVV), Austria (Freedom Party of Austria), Sweden (Sweden Democrats), Denmark (Danish People’s Party), Finland (True Finns), Germany (Alternative for Germany, AfD) and Britain (UKIP). In Spain, Greece, and Ireland, movements of the left have predominated: Podemos, Syriza, and Sinn Fein. Uniquely, Italy has both a strong anti-systemic movement of the right in the Lega, and a still larger one across the left/right divide in the Five Star Movement (M5S). The latter’s extra-parliamentary rhetoric on taxes and immigration puts it to the right, but it is put on the left by its parliamentary record of consistent opposition to the neoliberal measures of Matteo Renzi’s government (particularly on education and deregulation of the labor market), and its central role in defeating Renzi’s bid to weaken Italy’s democratic constitution. To this can be added Momentum, which emerged in Britain behind Jeremy Corbyn’s unexpected election as Labour Party leader. All the movements of the right except the AfD predate the crash of 2008; some have histories going back to the 1970s or earlier. Syriza took off, and M5S, Podemos, and Momentum were born, as direct results of the global financial crisis. The central fact is the greater overall weight of movements of the right over those of the left, both in the number of countries where they have the upper hand and in voting strength. Both are reactions to the structure of the neoliberal system, which finds its starkest, most concentrated expression in today’s EU, with its order founded on the reduction and privatization of public services; the abrogation of democratic control and representation; and deregulation of the factors of production. All three are present at national level in Europe, as elsewhere, but they are of a higher degree of intensity at EU level, as the torture of Greece, trampling of referendums, and scale of human trafficking attest. In the political arena, they are the overriding issues of popular concern, driving protests against the system over austerity, sovereignty, and immigration. Anti-systemic movements are differentiated by the weight they attach to each—to which color in the neoliberal palette they direct most hostility. COMMON CAUSE AGAINST IMMIGRANTS Movements of the right predominate over those of the left because from early on they made the immigration issue their own, playing on xenophobic and racist reactions to gain widespread support among the most vulnerable sectors of the population. With the exception of the movements in the Netherlands and Germany, which believe in economic liberalism, this is typically linked (in France, Denmark, Sweden, and Finland) not to denunciation but to defense of the welfare state; it is claimed that the arrival of immigrants undermines this. But it would be wrong to attribute all their advantage to this card; in important examples—the Front National (FN) in France is the most significant—they have an edge on other fronts too. Monetary union is the most obvious example. The single currency and central bank, designed at Maastricht, have made the imposition of austerity and denial of popular sovereignty into a single system. Movements of the left may attack these as vehemently as any movement of the right, if not more so. But the solutions they propose are less radical. On the right, the FN and the Lega have clear remedies to the strains of the single currency and immigration: exit the euro and stop the influx. On the left, with isolated exceptions, no such unambiguous demands have ever been made. At best, the substitutes are technical adjustments to the single currency, too complicated to have much popular purchase, and vague, embarrassed allusions to quotas; neither is as readily intelligible to voters as the straightforward propositions of the right. Immigration and monetary union create special difficulties for the left for historical reasons. The Treaty of Rome was founded on the promise of free movement of capital, commodities, and labor within a common European market. As long as the European Community was confined to countries of Western Europe, the factors of production where mobility mattered most were capital and commodities: Migration across borders within the community was generally quite modest. But by the late 1960s, immigrant labor from former African, Asian, and Caribbean colonies, and semi-colonial regions of the former Ottoman Empire, was already significant in numbers. EU enlargement to Eastern Europe then sharply increased intra-union migration. Finally, neo-imperial adventures in former Mediterranean colonies—the military blitz on Libya and proxy fanning of civil war in Syria—have driven large waves of refugees into Europe, along with retaliatory terror by militants from a region where the West remains camped as overlord, with its bases, bombers, and special forces. All of this has kindled xenophobia: Anti-systemic movements of the right have fed on it, and movements of the left have fought it, loyal to the cause of a humane internationalism. The same underlying attachments have led most of the left to resist any thought of ending monetary union, as a regression to a nationalism responsible for Europe’s past catastrophes. The ideal of European unity remains for them a cardinal value. But the present Europe of neoliberal integration is more coherent than any of the hesitant alternatives they have so far proposed. Austerity, oligarchy, and the ability to move factors of production form an interconnected system. Factor mobility cannot be separated from oligarchy: Historically, no European electorate was ever consulted about the arrival or scale of foreign labor; this always occurred behind its back. The negation of democracy, which became the structure of the EU, excluded from the start any say in the composition of its population. The rejection of this Europe by movements of the right is politically more consistent than rejection by the left, another reason for the right’s advantage. RECORD LEVELS OF VOTER DISCONTENT The arrival of M5S, Syriza, Podemos, and the AfD marked a jump in popular discontent in Europe. Polls now post record levels of voter disaffection with the EU. But, right or left, the electoral weight of anti-systemic movements remains limited. In the last European elections, the three most successful results for the right—UKIP, the FN, and the Danish People’s Party—were around 25 percent of the vote. In national elections, the average figure across Western Europe for all such right and left forces combined is about 15 percent. That percentage of the electorate poses little threat to the system; 25 percent can represent a headache, but the “populist danger” of media alarm remains to date very modest. The only cases where an anti-systemic movement has come to power, or looked as if it could do so, are those where a deliberate misapportioning of seats, through an electoral premium designed to favor the establishment, backfired, or risked doing so, as in Greece or Italy. In reality, there is a wide gap between the degree of popular disillusion with today’s neoliberal EU—by last summer, majorities in France and Spain expressed their aversion to it, and even in Germany, barely half of those polled had a positive opinion of it—and the extent of support for forces declaring against it. Indignation or disgust at what the EU has become is common, but for some time the fundamental determinant of European voting patterns has been, and remains, fear. The socio-economic status quo is widely detested. But it is regularly ratified at the polls with the reelection of parties responsible for it, because of fears that to upset the status, alarming markets, would bring worse misery. The single currency has not accelerated growth in Europe, and has inflicted acute hardship in the countries of the south worst affected. But the prospect of an exit terrifies even those who know by now how much they have suffered from it. Fear trumps anger. Hence the acquiescence of the Greek electorate in Syriza’s capitulation to Brussels, the setbacks of Podemos in Spain, the shuffling of feet by the Parti de Gauche in France. The underlying sense is everywhere the same. The system is bad. To affront it is to risk retribution. What, then, explains Brexit? Mass immigration is another fear across the EU, and it was whipped up in the UK by the Leave campaign, in which Nigel Farage was a conspicuous speaker and organizer, alongside prominent Conservatives. But xenophobia on its own is by no means enough to outweigh fear of economic meltdown. In England, as elsewhere, it has been growing as one government after another has lied about the scale of immigration. But if the referendum on the EU had just been a contest between these fears, as the political establishment sought to make it, Remain would have no doubt won by a handsome margin, as it did in the 2014 referendum on Scottish independence. THE STAKES ARE HIGHER NOW THAN EVER. GET THE NATION IN YOUR INBOX. There were further factors. After Maastricht, the British political class declined the straitjacket of the euro, only to pursue a native neoliberalism more drastic than any on the continent: first, the financialized hubris of New Labour, plunging Britain into a banking crisis before any other European country, then a Conservative-Liberal administration of an austerity more drastic than any generated without external constraint in Europe. Economically, the results of this combination are unique. No other European country has been so dramatically polarized by region, between a bubble-enclosed, high-income metropolis in London and the southeast, and an impoverished, deindustrialized north and northeast where voters felt they had little to lose in voting for Leave (crucially, a more abstract prospect than ditching the euro), whatever happened to the City and foreign investment. Fear counted for less than despair. Politically, too, no other European country has so blatantly rigged an electoral system: UKIP was the largest single British party at Strasbourg under proportional representation in 2014, yet a year later, with 13 percent of the vote, it gained just a single seat at Westminster, while the Scottish National Party, with under 5 percent of the vote, took 55 seats. Under the interchangeable Labour and Conservative regimes produced by this system, voters at the bottom of the income pyramid deserted the polls. But suddenly granted, for once, a real choice in a national referendum, they returned in force to deliver their verdict on the desolations of Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, and David Cameron. Finally, and decisively, came the historical difference separating Britain from the continent. For centuries, the country was not only an empire dwarfing any European rival culturally but, unlike France, Germany, Italy, or most the rest of the continent, did not suffer defeat, invasion, or occupation in either world war. So expropriation of local powers by a bureaucracy in Belgium was bound to grate more than elsewhere: Why should a state that twice saw off the might of Berlin submit to petty meddling from Brussels or Luxembourg? Issues of identity could more readily trump issues of interest than in the rest of the EU. So the normal formula—fear of economic retribution outweighs fear of alien immigration—failed to function, bent out of shape by a combination of economic despair and national amour-propre. US LEAP IN THE DARK These were also the conditions in which a US Republican presidential candidate of unprecedented background and temperament—abhorrent to mainstream bipartisan opinion, with no attempt to conform to accepted codes of civil or political conduct, and disliked by many of his actual voters—could appeal to enough disregarded white Rust Belt workers to win the election. As in Britain, desperation outweighed apprehension in deindustrialized proletarian regions. There too, much more rawly and openly, in a country with a deeper history of native racism, immigrants were denounced and barriers, physical as well as procedural, demanded. Above all, empire was not a distant memory of the past but a vivid attribute of the present and natural claim on the future, yet it had been cast aside by those in power in the name of a globalization that meant ruin for ordinary people and humiliation for their country. Donald Trump’s slogan was “Make America Great Again”—prosperous in discarding the fetishes of free movement of goods and labor, and victorious in ignoring the trammels and pieties of multilateralism: He was not wrong to proclaim that his triumph was Brexit writ large. It was a much more spectacular revolt, since it was not confined to a single—mostly symbolic—issue, and was devoid of any establishment respectability or editorial blessing. Trump’s victory has thrown the European political class, center-right and center-left united, into outraged dismay. Breaking established conventions on immigration is bad enough. The EU may have had few scruples in penning refugees into Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s Turkey, with its tens of thousands of political prisoners, police torture, and suspension of what passes for the rule of law; or in winking at barbed-wire barricades across Greece’s northern frontier to keep them locked up on Aegean Islands. But the EU, respecting diplomatic decencies, has never openly gloried in its exclusions. Trump’s lack of inhibition in these matters does not directly affect the union. What does, and is cause for far more serious concern, is his rejection of the ideology of free movement of the factors of production, and, even more so, his apparently cavalier disregard for NATO and his comments about a less belligerent attitude to Russia. Whether either of these is more than a gesture soon to be forgotten, like many of his domestic promises, remains to be seen. But his election has crystallized a significant difference between a number of anti-systemic movements of the right or ambiguous center, and parties of the established left, pink or green. In France and Italy, movements of the right have consistently opposed neo–Cold War policies and military adventures applauded by the parties of the left, including the blitz on Libya and sanctions on Russia. The British referendum and the US election were anti-systemic convulsions of the right, though flanked by anti-systemic upsurges of the left (the Bernie Sanders movement in the US and the Corbyn phenomenon in the UK), smaller in scale, if still less expected. What the consequences of Trump or Brexit will be remain indeterminate, though no doubt more limited than current predictions. The established order is far from beaten in either country, and, as Greece has shown, is capable of absorbing and neutralizing revolts from whatever direction with impressive speed. Among the antibodies it has already generated are yuppie simulacra of populist breakthroughs (Albert Rivera in Spain, Emmanuel Macron in France), inveighing against the deadlocks and corruptions of the present, and promising a cleaner and more dynamic politics of the future, beyond the decaying parties. For anti-systemic movements of the left in Europe, the lesson of recent years is clear. If they are not to go on being outpaced by movements of the right, they cannot afford to be less radical in attacking the system, and must be more coherent in their opposition to it. That means facing the probability that the EU is now so path-dependent as a neoliberal construction that reform of it is no longer seriously conceivable. It would have to be undone before anything better could be built, either by breaking out of the current EU, or by reconstructing Europe on another foundation, committing Maastricht to the flames. Unless there is a further, deeper economic crisis, there is little likelihood of either. Sponsored by Revcontent -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 7 15:21:36 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 15:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tonkin Gulfitis References: <730994030.575525.1488900096129.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <730994030.575525.1488900096129@mail.yahoo.com> Another horrible article by a history professor, this time in the NYT. But it's interesting that the majority of the commenters do a decent job of deconstructing his nonsense, especially when they are able to move beyond raging against Trump. America’s Case of ‘Tonkin Gulfitis’ | | | | | | | | | | | America’s Case of ‘Tonkin Gulfitis’ By Mark Atwood Lawrence The Vietnam War had drastic, negative consequences for the country’s foreign policy. | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Tue Mar 7 17:24:37 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 11:24:37 -0600 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tonkin Gulfitis In-Reply-To: <730994030.575525.1488900096129@mail.yahoo.com> References: <730994030.575525.1488900096129.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <730994030.575525.1488900096129@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A matter important enough that tame intellectuals spend time mystifying the facts. The war launched by Israel in 1967 had at least three long term and interrelated consequences: 1. Secular Arab nationalism was destroyed, and resistance to imperialism in the region passed to religious authorities (the reason that Israel secretly aided the rise of Hamas). 2. Israel became the principal US client in the Mideast, a “stationary aircraft carrier’ for US control of the region and its resources, principally energy. 3. US effective control of oil flows in the region gave it an unparalleled weapon to the US to control oil-deprendent economies, especially in Asia. Such “off-shore control” as the Pentagon called it made direct military domination of SE Asai less necessary, and allowed the US to begin extricating its troops form Vietnam, the political price for which was becoming too high in the US. The US won the Vietnam war by killing millions of people. Not that its maximum war aims were achieved but that it destroyed ‘the threat of a good example’ - a third-world country that could run its economy for the benefit of its people rather than the profits of the American 1% - and a model for the countries in the region. —CGE > On Mar 7, 2017, at 9:21 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Another horrible article by a history professor, this time in the NYT. But it's interesting that the majority of the commenters do a decent job of deconstructing his nonsense, especially when they are able to move beyond raging against Trump. > > > America’s Case of ‘Tonkin Gulfitis’ > > > > > America’s Case of ‘Tonkin Gulfitis’ > By Mark Atwood Lawrence > The Vietnam War had drastic, negative consequences for the country’s foreign policy. > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From salevy at illinois.edu Tue Mar 7 18:50:54 2017 From: salevy at illinois.edu (Stuart Levy) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 12:50:54 -0600 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tonkin Gulfitis In-Reply-To: <730994030.575525.1488900096129@mail.yahoo.com> References: <730994030.575525.1488900096129.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <730994030.575525.1488900096129@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4907a89c-085c-cd06-5844-b5cfef23cdc9@illinois.edu> Two especially sharp comments from among those: "George Orwell would have appreciated Prof. Lawrence's thesis that the Vietnam war was some sort of aberration in the US's otherwise benign foreign policy." and "The only positive result of the unjustified US war on the Vietnamese people was that the resources it required prevented the US from murdering other people around the globe, supposedly for their own good." (that's a pretty low bar.) Thanks for pointing this out. On 3/7/17 9:21 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: > Another horrible article by a history professor, this time in the NYT. > But it's interesting that the majority of the commenters do a decent > job of deconstructing his nonsense, especially when they are able to > move beyond raging against Trump. > > > America’s Case of ‘Tonkin Gulfitis’ > > > > > > > > > > > > America’s Case of ‘Tonkin Gulfitis’ > > By Mark Atwood Lawrence > The Vietnam War had drastic, negative consequences for the country’s > foreign policy. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Mar 8 00:28:24 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 18:28:24 -0600 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Anti-Empire Report, March 7, 2017 References: <549649.78ee8f1c.45f06ae0@aol.com> Message-ID: https://williamblum.org/aer/read/149 "For the record: I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies.zFor the record: I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies." ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Mar 8 00:29:50 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 00:29:50 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Fwd: Anti-Empire Report, March 7, 2017 In-Reply-To: References: <549649.78ee8f1c.45f06ae0@aol.com> Message-ID: It’s still all about the oil. At least Trump was honest and admitted it. Unlike his predecessors. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 6:28 PM To: peace ; Peace-discuss List Subject: [Peace] Fwd: Anti-Empire Report, March 7, 2017 https://williamblum.org/aer/read/149 "For the record: I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies.zFor the record: I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies." ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Mar 8 01:00:46 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 19:00:46 -0600 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary In-Reply-To: References: <2C144EA9-146A-49D3-81F5-35B737D8331D@illinois.edu> <2B52754B-6413-4095-BF58-0C6BFC66B1E1@illinois.edu> Message-ID: And local anti-war activists thank you, Francis, for your comments on the current situation - misrepresented by government and media (and academics) to an extent not seen in decades. Regards, Carl > On Mar 5, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > Yeah, and I want to commend Carl for letting my start my Campaign against Killer Koh and the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty on his Aware TV Program. We all do what we can where we can. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:40 AM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green > Subject: Re: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary > > [Flyer distributed at the regular monthly demonstration by the “Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort" of Champaign-Urbana, 4 March 2017] > > President Trump: End U.S. Wars > “...provide for the common defence...” > BRING ALL U.S. TROOPS AND WEAPONS HOME > > The U.S. is today making war in at least seven countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. In addition, the 70,000-member U.S. ‘Special Operations Command’ is active in no less than 70% of the countries of the world. Their activities include kidnapping (‘rendition’), torture, and murder. > > Since World War II, U.S. presidents have killed more than 20 million people in 37 nations. The U.S. continues to be what Martin Luther King called it long ago: “The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.” > > Why has our government plagued the world with war for more than two generations? The answer is simple and horrible - to protect the profits of the one percent - the American economic elite. > > When World War II ended in 1945, the U.S. was the only undamaged major country, and controlled the world economy, for the benefit of that one percent. In all the years since, U.S. administrations have been willing to kill people and make war to “maintain the disparity,” as American planners said. > > As a result, the U.S. government is today engaged in war and war provocations around the world: > > MIDEAST. Our anti-war group AWARE was established fifteen years ago, after the attacks of 9/11/2001, by citizens of Champaign-Urbana who realized that the U.S. government would use those crimes to justify its already long-standing attempts to exercise military control over the Mideast and its energy resources. The U.S. doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the U.S. a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries - a chokehold which benefits only the American one percent. In 2003 the US illegally invaded Iraq - and killed perhaps a million people for that purpose - and now has thousands of troops and mercenaries throughout the Mideast. > > UKRAINE. The Obama administration arranged the overthrow of an elected president in Ukraine and helped to install the only European government since WWII to contain Nazis. Then it encouraged an attack on the eastern Ukrainian provinces who refused to submit to the coup, killing thousands. The attack continues, while Russia tries to arrange a cease-fire (Minsk II). The Crimea region, appalled by the coup government, voted to join Russia. > > E. EUROPE. When East and West Germany were reunited, in 1990, the U.S. promised it would not extend NATO into Eastern Europe. But the Clinton administration broke that promise, and NATO advanced to the Russian border. In his last days in office, President Obama sent troops and tanks into Poland. The last national leader to do that was Hitler: Russia, attacked through Poland in both WWI and WWII, was understandably alarmed. > > S. CHINA SEA. President Obama in 2011 said that creating an American presence in the Asia Pacific was his "top priority.” His “pivot to Asia” is a U.S. military build-up that threatens China’s trade routes, but for America's arms industry, the prize is huge profits. And the danger of confrontation grows by the day. > * * * > The U.S. government says we’re fighting terrorism, but we are in fact creating terrorists - in response particularly to the drone assassinations, “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - which have killed more than 5,000 people, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children. > > William Blum (author of “Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II”) writes, > > “If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize - very publicly and very sincerely - to all the widows and the orphans, the impoverished and the tortured, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. I would then announce that America's global interventions - including the awful bombings - have come to an end. And I would inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the union but – oddly enough – a foreign country. I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims and repair the damage from the many American bombings and invasions...” > > ANTI-WAR ANTI-RACISM EFFORT - on Facebook at > ~ U.S. troops & weapons out of the Mideast! ~ Medicare for all! ~ Universal basic income! ~ From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Mar 8 01:34:56 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 01:34:56 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary In-Reply-To: References: <2C144EA9-146A-49D3-81F5-35B737D8331D@illinois.edu> <2B52754B-6413-4095-BF58-0C6BFC66B1E1@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Thanks Carl. Yeah, I have not seen it this bad during my lifetime, especially academic prostitutes for power. As I told my International Human Rights Law Students this week about the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty: Law Professors just love to suck up to those in power. They have now invited out one of Obama's top lawyers to speak at their commencement. QED. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 7:01 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: Re: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary And local anti-war activists thank you, Francis, for your comments on the current situation - misrepresented by government and media (and academics) to an extent not seen in decades. Regards, Carl > On Mar 5, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > Yeah, and I want to commend Carl for letting my start my Campaign against Killer Koh and the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty on his Aware TV Program. We all do what we can where we can. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:40 AM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J > ; Karen Aram ; > peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK > ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas > ; Szoke, Ron ; > sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; > peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson > ; Dave Trippel ; > abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne > ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien > ; David Johnson ; Joe > Lauria ; David Green > Subject: Re: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary > > [Flyer distributed at the regular monthly demonstration by the > “Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort" of Champaign-Urbana, 4 March 2017] > > President Trump: End U.S. Wars > “...provide for the common defence...” > BRING ALL U.S. TROOPS AND WEAPONS HOME > > The U.S. is today making war in at least seven countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. In addition, the 70,000-member U.S. ‘Special Operations Command’ is active in no less than 70% of the countries of the world. Their activities include kidnapping (‘rendition’), torture, and murder. > > Since World War II, U.S. presidents have killed more than 20 million people in 37 nations. The U.S. continues to be what Martin Luther King called it long ago: “The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.” > > Why has our government plagued the world with war for more than two generations? The answer is simple and horrible - to protect the profits of the one percent - the American economic elite. > > When World War II ended in 1945, the U.S. was the only undamaged major country, and controlled the world economy, for the benefit of that one percent. In all the years since, U.S. administrations have been willing to kill people and make war to “maintain the disparity,” as American planners said. > > As a result, the U.S. government is today engaged in war and war provocations around the world: > > MIDEAST. Our anti-war group AWARE was established fifteen years ago, after the attacks of 9/11/2001, by citizens of Champaign-Urbana who realized that the U.S. government would use those crimes to justify its already long-standing attempts to exercise military control over the Mideast and its energy resources. The U.S. doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the U.S. a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries - a chokehold which benefits only the American one percent. In 2003 the US illegally invaded Iraq - and killed perhaps a million people for that purpose - and now has thousands of troops and mercenaries throughout the Mideast. > > UKRAINE. The Obama administration arranged the overthrow of an elected president in Ukraine and helped to install the only European government since WWII to contain Nazis. Then it encouraged an attack on the eastern Ukrainian provinces who refused to submit to the coup, killing thousands. The attack continues, while Russia tries to arrange a cease-fire (Minsk II). The Crimea region, appalled by the coup government, voted to join Russia. > > E. EUROPE. When East and West Germany were reunited, in 1990, the U.S. promised it would not extend NATO into Eastern Europe. But the Clinton administration broke that promise, and NATO advanced to the Russian border. In his last days in office, President Obama sent troops and tanks into Poland. The last national leader to do that was Hitler: Russia, attacked through Poland in both WWI and WWII, was understandably alarmed. > > S. CHINA SEA. President Obama in 2011 said that creating an American presence in the Asia Pacific was his "top priority.” His “pivot to Asia” is a U.S. military build-up that threatens China’s trade routes, but for America's arms industry, the prize is huge profits. And the danger of confrontation grows by the day. > * * * > The U.S. government says we’re fighting terrorism, but we are in fact creating terrorists - in response particularly to the drone assassinations, “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - which have killed more than 5,000 people, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children. > > William Blum (author of “Killing Hope: US Military and CIA > Interventions Since World War II”) writes, > > “If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize - very publicly and very sincerely - to all the widows and the orphans, the impoverished and the tortured, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. I would then announce that America's global interventions - including the awful bombings - have come to an end. And I would inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the union but – oddly enough – a foreign country. I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims and repair the damage from the many American bombings and invasions...” > > ANTI-WAR ANTI-RACISM EFFORT - on Facebook at Urbana Illinois> ~ U.S. troops & weapons out of the Mideast! ~ > Medicare for all! ~ Universal basic income! ~ From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Mar 8 01:48:05 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 01:48:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary References: <2C144EA9-146A-49D3-81F5-35B737D8331D@illinois.edu> <2B52754B-6413-4095-BF58-0C6BFC66B1E1@illinois.edu> Message-ID: I have no evidence to believe that he is a war criminal and a murderer of US citizens like Killer Koh. So I am not going to organize a protest. But I am certainly not going to dignify him and them with my presence. But the best the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty can do is give us two Obama Lawyers as their Bookends for the Academic Year of 2016-2017 together with all their Yale Law Mafia speakers in between. Fab. 8. Killing Kids at Yale Law School Early January 1977 Just out of Harvard Law Looking for a job Landing at Yale Law 26 years old 2 hour faculty presentation In faculty lounge To my right Dean Harry Wellington Arrayed left and right Across the room Yale Law Faculty all Most distinguished crowd Sitting in the back Directly opposite Clear line of sight Glaring right at me Gene Rostow Ex Yale Law Dean Of the infamous Rostow brothers Who gave us Vietnam War criminal of the first rank 3 million exterminated Vietnamese Murdered 58,000 men of my generation Hey! Hey! LBJ! How many kids! Did you kill today! Went through my mind Gene was there to make sure I was never hired Had checked me out With his Harvard Law buddies Where my views were well known On everything Including Vietnam Especially the Palestinians For one hour Gene and I battled back and forth Blow for blow Shot for shot I stood my ground And matched him Rostow was just a bully Having grown up On the Irish Southside of Chicago I know how to deal with bullies Then Gene made a fatal mistake A wan smile came across my face I got you now! You sunova-bitch! You spent the last hour Trying to beat me up But now I have you Exactly where I want you I am going to destroy you! And I did! Made a complete, total and absolute fool Out of Gene In front of the entire Yale Law Faculty Many of whom he had hired Gene’s Kids Gene’s face turned beet red I stunned him into silence for the next hour! It was so bad Leon Lipson Broke out laughing In the Back of the Faculty Lounge Priceless! A little payback for Vietnam! Well worth the job Hey! Hey! Rostow say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Fasting forward to today Ex Yale Law Dean Harold Killer Koh Rejoins the Faculty After serving a stint As Obama’s War Consigliere Droner-in-Chief For the Harvard Law Commander-in-Chief Justifying Obama’s war crimes, crimes against peace, crimes against humanity Drones, murders, assassinations Violations of the Constitution Exterminating 50,000 Libyans With the bat of his eye Hey! Hey! Harold say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Killer Koh Is a worthy successor To Gene Rostow Yale Law’s Resident Dean War Criminals Hey! Hey! Yale Law Say! How many kids! Did you kill today! John Yoo too! Killer Koh’s pooh!   9. Diss-Ode to Harold Killer Koh Harold Killer Koh Killing Babies where he go Muslim life is cheap you see Jewish life too for the Nazi Carl Schmitt Professor of Law At the Yale Law School Boot-licking Gene Rostow Of the infamous Rostow Brothers Who gave us Vietnam Genociding “gooks” too Obama’s War Consigliere Gene and his “kids” for LBJ Some things never change for Dems And their Elite Law School Whores Today At Harvard Law School too Where Killers Obama and Koh First dropped their pooh Along with “Judge” Davey Barron too Obama’s Droner-in-Chief Destined for a Cell in The Hague Right next to his student John Yoo A Chip off of Harold’s Old Block Cold-blooded Killers and War Criminals too Killer Koh disteaching “human rights” at N.Y.U. Supported by his gang of Dem law prof thugs Beating up on the N.Y.U. law students few With the courage, integrity, and principles to say Never again!   Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 7:35 PM To: 'Carl G. Estabrook' Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary Thanks Carl. Yeah, I have not seen it this bad during my lifetime, especially academic prostitutes for power. As I told my International Human Rights Law Students this week about the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty: Law Professors just love to suck up to those in power. They have now invited out one of Obama's top lawyers to speak at their commencement. QED. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 7:01 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: Re: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary And local anti-war activists thank you, Francis, for your comments on the current situation - misrepresented by government and media (and academics) to an extent not seen in decades. Regards, Carl > On Mar 5, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > Yeah, and I want to commend Carl for letting my start my Campaign against Killer Koh and the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty on his Aware TV Program. We all do what we can where we can. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:40 AM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J > ; Karen Aram ; > peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK > ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas > ; Szoke, Ron ; > sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; > peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson > ; Dave Trippel ; > abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne > ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien > ; David Johnson ; Joe > Lauria ; David Green > Subject: Re: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary > > [Flyer distributed at the regular monthly demonstration by the > “Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort" of Champaign-Urbana, 4 March 2017] > > President Trump: End U.S. Wars > “...provide for the common defence...” > BRING ALL U.S. TROOPS AND WEAPONS HOME > > The U.S. is today making war in at least seven countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. In addition, the 70,000-member U.S. ‘Special Operations Command’ is active in no less than 70% of the countries of the world. Their activities include kidnapping (‘rendition’), torture, and murder. > > Since World War II, U.S. presidents have killed more than 20 million people in 37 nations. The U.S. continues to be what Martin Luther King called it long ago: “The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.” > > Why has our government plagued the world with war for more than two generations? The answer is simple and horrible - to protect the profits of the one percent - the American economic elite. > > When World War II ended in 1945, the U.S. was the only undamaged major country, and controlled the world economy, for the benefit of that one percent. In all the years since, U.S. administrations have been willing to kill people and make war to “maintain the disparity,” as American planners said. > > As a result, the U.S. government is today engaged in war and war provocations around the world: > > MIDEAST. Our anti-war group AWARE was established fifteen years ago, after the attacks of 9/11/2001, by citizens of Champaign-Urbana who realized that the U.S. government would use those crimes to justify its already long-standing attempts to exercise military control over the Mideast and its energy resources. The U.S. doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the U.S. a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries - a chokehold which benefits only the American one percent. In 2003 the US illegally invaded Iraq - and killed perhaps a million people for that purpose - and now has thousands of troops and mercenaries throughout the Mideast. > > UKRAINE. The Obama administration arranged the overthrow of an elected president in Ukraine and helped to install the only European government since WWII to contain Nazis. Then it encouraged an attack on the eastern Ukrainian provinces who refused to submit to the coup, killing thousands. The attack continues, while Russia tries to arrange a cease-fire (Minsk II). The Crimea region, appalled by the coup government, voted to join Russia. > > E. EUROPE. When East and West Germany were reunited, in 1990, the U.S. promised it would not extend NATO into Eastern Europe. But the Clinton administration broke that promise, and NATO advanced to the Russian border. In his last days in office, President Obama sent troops and tanks into Poland. The last national leader to do that was Hitler: Russia, attacked through Poland in both WWI and WWII, was understandably alarmed. > > S. CHINA SEA. President Obama in 2011 said that creating an American presence in the Asia Pacific was his "top priority.” His “pivot to Asia” is a U.S. military build-up that threatens China’s trade routes, but for America's arms industry, the prize is huge profits. And the danger of confrontation grows by the day. > * * * > The U.S. government says we’re fighting terrorism, but we are in fact creating terrorists - in response particularly to the drone assassinations, “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - which have killed more than 5,000 people, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children. > > William Blum (author of “Killing Hope: US Military and CIA > Interventions Since World War II”) writes, > > “If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize - very publicly and very sincerely - to all the widows and the orphans, the impoverished and the tortured, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. I would then announce that America's global interventions - including the awful bombings - have come to an end. And I would inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the union but – oddly enough – a foreign country. I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims and repair the damage from the many American bombings and invasions...” > > ANTI-WAR ANTI-RACISM EFFORT - on Facebook at Urbana Illinois> ~ U.S. troops & weapons out of the Mideast! ~ > Medicare for all! ~ Universal basic income! ~ From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Mar 8 02:02:30 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 02:02:30 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Fwd: Anti-Empire Report, March 7, 2017 In-Reply-To: References: <549649.78ee8f1c.45f06ae0@aol.com> Message-ID: I knew William Blum had worked for the USG at some point, and mentioned that on the AOTA program today, but I couldn’t remember in what capacity. I agree with his assessment of US Policy in respect to Iran, Syria and Russia, and I liked the article you posted Carl. However, I don’t agree with Blum’s assessment of Islam. Blaming victims for their irrational reactions to the horrors inflicted upon them, serves no purpose other than to villify all peoples of that specific religion, nationality, etc.,etc. I do applaud his humanity otherwise. About William Blum William Blum left the State Department in 1967, abandoning his aspiration of becoming a Foreign Service Officer, because of his opposition to what the United States was doing in Vietnam. He then became one of the founders and editors of the Washington Free Press, the first “alternative” newspaper in the capital. [William Blum] Photo by Lois Raimondo, The Washington Post Mr. Blum has been a freelance journalist in the United States, Europe and South America. His stay in Chile in 1972-3, writing about the Allende government’s “socialist experiment” and its tragic overthrow in a CIA-designed coup, instilled in him a personal involvement and an even more heightened interest in what his government was doing in various parts of the world. In the mid-1970’s, he worked in London with former CIA officer Philip Agee and his associates on their project of exposing CIA personnel and their misdeeds. His book on U.S. foreign policy, Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II, first published in 1995 and updated since, has received international acclaim. Noam Chomsky called it “far and away the best book on the topic.” In 1999, he was one of the recipients of Project Censored’s awards for “exemplary journalism” for writing one of the top ten censored stories of 1998, an article on how, in the 1980s, the United States gave Iraq the material to develop a chemical and biological warfare capability. Blum is also the author of America’s Deadliest Export: Democracy – The Truth About U.S. Foreign Policy and Everything Else (2013), Rogue State: A Guide to the World’s Only Superpower (updated edition 2005), West-Bloc Dissident: A Cold War Memoir (2002), and Freeing the World to Death: Essays on the American Empire (2004). His books have been translated into more than 15 languages. During 2002-2003, Blum was a regular columnist for the magazine The Ecologist, which is published in London and distributed globally. In January 2006, a tape from Osama bin Laden stated that “it would be useful” for Americans to read Rogue State, apparently to gain a better understanding of their enemy. Interviews with William Blum * Breaking the Set with Abby Martin (RT America, November 30th, 2012) * Talk Nation Radio with David Swanson (November 21st, 2012) * Escape Velocity Radio (February 1st, 2013) * American Military Power: An interview with William Blum (Dissident Voice, January 29th, 2013) * The Author Who Got A Big Boost From bin Laden (The Washington Post, January 21st, 2006) Contact William Blum by email at bblum6 at aol.com, or write to him at: William Blum 5100 Connecticut Avenue NW, #707 Washington, DC, 20008-2064 On Mar 7, 2017, at 16:29, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: It’s still all about the oil. At least Trump was honest and admitted it. Unlike his predecessors. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 6:28 PM To: peace >; Peace-discuss List > Subject: [Peace] Fwd: Anti-Empire Report, March 7, 2017 https://williamblum.org/aer/read/149 "For the record: I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies.zFor the record: I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies." ### _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Mar 8 02:45:17 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 20:45:17 -0600 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Anti-Empire Report, March 7, 2017 In-Reply-To: References: <549649.78ee8f1c.45f06ae0@aol.com> Message-ID: Yes, it’s about the oil (and gas). But it’s about control of Mideast energy resources, not just (or even primarily) about access to them. (Trump is right, if somewhat lacking in detail…) As we say in the intro to AWARE ON THE AIR, "The US doesn’t need oil* from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the US a major advantage over Russia, China, Germany, and other countries - a chokehold which benefits only the American 1%. "The Bush and Obama administrations launched wars in the Mideast and killed well over a million people to control world energy, but they did manage to hide much of what they’re doing from the American people, if not from the rest of the world.” _____________ *Most of the oil imported into the US (and not re-exported) comes from the Atlantic basin - Canada, Nigeria, Venezuela… Only about 10% of what is consumed domestically is from the Mideast, and the bulk of that from the KSA. (From memory - I haven’t looked at these figures recently.) Regards, CGE > On Mar 7, 2017, at 6:29 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > It’s still all about the oil. At least Trump was honest and admitted it. Unlike his predecessors. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 6:28 PM > To: peace ; Peace-discuss List > Subject: [Peace] Fwd: Anti-Empire Report, March 7, 2017 > > https://williamblum.org/aer/read/149 > > "For the record: I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies.zFor the record: I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies." > > ### From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Mar 8 02:45:13 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 02:45:13 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary References: <2C144EA9-146A-49D3-81F5-35B737D8331D@illinois.edu> <2B52754B-6413-4095-BF58-0C6BFC66B1E1@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Yale Law School has been a Source of Evil since Gene Rostow was Dean. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 7:48 PM To: 'Carl G. Estabrook' Cc: 'Jay Becker' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; 'Karen Aram' ; 'peace-discuss at anti-war.net' ; 'C. G. ESTABROOK' ; 'a-fields at uiuc.edu' ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'Arlene Hickory' ; 'peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Dave Trippel' ; 'abass10 at gmail.com' ; 'mickalideh at gmail.com' ; 'Lina Thorne' ; 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Joe Lauria' ; 'David Green' Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary I have no evidence to believe that he is a war criminal and a murderer of US citizens like Killer Koh. So I am not going to organize a protest. But I am certainly not going to dignify him and them with my presence. But the best the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty can do is give us two Obama Lawyers as their Bookends for the Academic Year of 2016-2017 together with all their Yale Law Mafia speakers in between. Fab. 8. Killing Kids at Yale Law School Early January 1977 Just out of Harvard Law Looking for a job Landing at Yale Law 26 years old 2 hour faculty presentation In faculty lounge To my right Dean Harry Wellington Arrayed left and right Across the room Yale Law Faculty all Most distinguished crowd Sitting in the back Directly opposite Clear line of sight Glaring right at me Gene Rostow Ex Yale Law Dean Of the infamous Rostow brothers Who gave us Vietnam War criminal of the first rank 3 million exterminated Vietnamese Murdered 58,000 men of my generation Hey! Hey! LBJ! How many kids! Did you kill today! Went through my mind Gene was there to make sure I was never hired Had checked me out With his Harvard Law buddies Where my views were well known On everything Including Vietnam Especially the Palestinians For one hour Gene and I battled back and forth Blow for blow Shot for shot I stood my ground And matched him Rostow was just a bully Having grown up On the Irish Southside of Chicago I know how to deal with bullies Then Gene made a fatal mistake A wan smile came across my face I got you now! You sunova-bitch! You spent the last hour Trying to beat me up But now I have you Exactly where I want you I am going to destroy you! And I did! Made a complete, total and absolute fool Out of Gene In front of the entire Yale Law Faculty Many of whom he had hired Gene’s Kids Gene’s face turned beet red I stunned him into silence for the next hour! It was so bad Leon Lipson Broke out laughing In the Back of the Faculty Lounge Priceless! A little payback for Vietnam! Well worth the job Hey! Hey! Rostow say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Fasting forward to today Ex Yale Law Dean Harold Killer Koh Rejoins the Faculty After serving a stint As Obama’s War Consigliere Droner-in-Chief For the Harvard Law Commander-in-Chief Justifying Obama’s war crimes, crimes against peace, crimes against humanity Drones, murders, assassinations Violations of the Constitution Exterminating 50,000 Libyans With the bat of his eye Hey! Hey! Harold say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Killer Koh Is a worthy successor To Gene Rostow Yale Law’s Resident Dean War Criminals Hey! Hey! Yale Law Say! How many kids! Did you kill today! John Yoo too! Killer Koh’s pooh!   9. Diss-Ode to Harold Killer Koh Harold Killer Koh Killing Babies where he go Muslim life is cheap you see Jewish life too for the Nazi Carl Schmitt Professor of Law At the Yale Law School Boot-licking Gene Rostow Of the infamous Rostow Brothers Who gave us Vietnam Genociding “gooks” too Obama’s War Consigliere Gene and his “kids” for LBJ Some things never change for Dems And their Elite Law School Whores Today At Harvard Law School too Where Killers Obama and Koh First dropped their pooh Along with “Judge” Davey Barron too Obama’s Droner-in-Chief Destined for a Cell in The Hague Right next to his student John Yoo A Chip off of Harold’s Old Block Cold-blooded Killers and War Criminals too Killer Koh disteaching “human rights” at N.Y.U. Supported by his gang of Dem law prof thugs Beating up on the N.Y.U. law students few With the courage, integrity, and principles to say Never again!   Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 7:35 PM To: 'Carl G. Estabrook' Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary Thanks Carl. Yeah, I have not seen it this bad during my lifetime, especially academic prostitutes for power. As I told my International Human Rights Law Students this week about the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty: Law Professors just love to suck up to those in power. They have now invited out one of Obama's top lawyers to speak at their commencement. QED. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 7:01 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: Re: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary And local anti-war activists thank you, Francis, for your comments on the current situation - misrepresented by government and media (and academics) to an extent not seen in decades. Regards, Carl > On Mar 5, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > Yeah, and I want to commend Carl for letting my start my Campaign against Killer Koh and the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty on his Aware TV Program. We all do what we can where we can. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:40 AM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J > ; Karen Aram ; > peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK > ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas > ; Szoke, Ron ; > sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; > peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson > ; Dave Trippel ; > abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne > ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien > ; David Johnson ; Joe > Lauria ; David Green > Subject: Re: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary > > [Flyer distributed at the regular monthly demonstration by the > “Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort" of Champaign-Urbana, 4 March 2017] > > President Trump: End U.S. Wars > “...provide for the common defence...” > BRING ALL U.S. TROOPS AND WEAPONS HOME > > The U.S. is today making war in at least seven countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. In addition, the 70,000-member U.S. ‘Special Operations Command’ is active in no less than 70% of the countries of the world. Their activities include kidnapping (‘rendition’), torture, and murder. > > Since World War II, U.S. presidents have killed more than 20 million people in 37 nations. The U.S. continues to be what Martin Luther King called it long ago: “The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.” > > Why has our government plagued the world with war for more than two generations? The answer is simple and horrible - to protect the profits of the one percent - the American economic elite. > > When World War II ended in 1945, the U.S. was the only undamaged major country, and controlled the world economy, for the benefit of that one percent. In all the years since, U.S. administrations have been willing to kill people and make war to “maintain the disparity,” as American planners said. > > As a result, the U.S. government is today engaged in war and war provocations around the world: > > MIDEAST. Our anti-war group AWARE was established fifteen years ago, after the attacks of 9/11/2001, by citizens of Champaign-Urbana who realized that the U.S. government would use those crimes to justify its already long-standing attempts to exercise military control over the Mideast and its energy resources. The U.S. doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the U.S. a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries - a chokehold which benefits only the American one percent. In 2003 the US illegally invaded Iraq - and killed perhaps a million people for that purpose - and now has thousands of troops and mercenaries throughout the Mideast. > > UKRAINE. The Obama administration arranged the overthrow of an elected president in Ukraine and helped to install the only European government since WWII to contain Nazis. Then it encouraged an attack on the eastern Ukrainian provinces who refused to submit to the coup, killing thousands. The attack continues, while Russia tries to arrange a cease-fire (Minsk II). The Crimea region, appalled by the coup government, voted to join Russia. > > E. EUROPE. When East and West Germany were reunited, in 1990, the U.S. promised it would not extend NATO into Eastern Europe. But the Clinton administration broke that promise, and NATO advanced to the Russian border. In his last days in office, President Obama sent troops and tanks into Poland. The last national leader to do that was Hitler: Russia, attacked through Poland in both WWI and WWII, was understandably alarmed. > > S. CHINA SEA. President Obama in 2011 said that creating an American presence in the Asia Pacific was his "top priority.” His “pivot to Asia” is a U.S. military build-up that threatens China’s trade routes, but for America's arms industry, the prize is huge profits. And the danger of confrontation grows by the day. > * * * > The U.S. government says we’re fighting terrorism, but we are in fact creating terrorists - in response particularly to the drone assassinations, “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - which have killed more than 5,000 people, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children. > > William Blum (author of “Killing Hope: US Military and CIA > Interventions Since World War II”) writes, > > “If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize - very publicly and very sincerely - to all the widows and the orphans, the impoverished and the tortured, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. I would then announce that America's global interventions - including the awful bombings - have come to an end. And I would inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the union but – oddly enough – a foreign country. I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims and repair the damage from the many American bombings and invasions...” > > ANTI-WAR ANTI-RACISM EFFORT - on Facebook at Urbana Illinois> ~ U.S. troops & weapons out of the Mideast! ~ > Medicare for all! ~ Universal basic income! ~ From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Mar 8 02:51:30 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 02:51:30 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Anti-Empire Report, March 7, 2017 In-Reply-To: References: <549649.78ee8f1c.45f06ae0@aol.com> Message-ID: Yeah, that's right. Control and domination of the oil and gas for the world. Fab American Unlimited Imperialism Historically, this latest eruption of American militarism at the start of the 21st Century is akin to that of America opening the 20th Century by means of the U.S.-instigated Spanish-American War in 1898. Then the Republican administration of President William McKinley stole their colonial empire from Spain in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines; inflicted a near genocidal war against the Filipino people; while at the same time illegally annexing the Kingdom of Hawaii and subjecting the Native Hawaiian people (who call themselves the Kanaka Maoli) to near genocidal conditions. Additionally, McKinley’s military and colonial expansion into the Pacific was also designed to secure America’s economic exploitation of China pursuant to the euphemistic rubric of the “open door” policy. But over the next four decades America’s aggressive presence, policies, and practices in the “Pacific” would ineluctably pave the way for Japan’s attack at Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 194l, and thus America’s precipitation into the ongoing Second World War. Today a century later the serial imperial aggressions launched and menaced by the Republican Bush Jr. administration and now the Democratic Obama administration are threatening to set off World War III. By shamelessly exploiting the terrible tragedy of 11 September 2001, the Bush Jr. administration set forth to steal a hydrocarbon empire from the Muslim states and peoples living in Central Asia and the Persian Gulf and Africa under the bogus pretexts of (1) fighting a war against international terrorism; and/or (2) eliminating weapons of mass destruction; and/or (3) the promotion of democracy; and/or (4) self-styled “humanitarian intervention”/responsibility to protect. Only this time the geopolitical stakes are infinitely greater than they were a century ago: control and domination of two-thirds of the world’s hydrocarbon resources and thus the very fundament and energizer of the global economic system – oil and gas. The Bush Jr./ Obama administrations have already targeted the remaining hydrocarbon reserves of Africa, Latin America, and Southeast Asia for further conquest or domination, together with the strategic choke-points at sea and on land required for their transportation. In this regard, the Bush Jr. administration announced the establishment of the U.S. Pentagon’s Africa Command (AFRICOM) in order to better control, dominate, and exploit both the natural resources and the variegated peoples of the continent of Africa, the very cradle of our human species. Libya and the Libyans became the first victims to succumb to AFRICOM under the Obama administration. They will not be the last. This current bout of U.S. imperialism is what my teacher, mentor and friend Hans Morgenthau denominated “unlimited imperialism” in his seminal work Politics Among Nations (4th ed. 1968, at 52-53): “The outstanding historic examples of unlimited imperialism are the expansionist policies of Alexander the Great, Rome, the Arabs in the seventh and eighth centuries, Napoleon I, and Hitler. They all have in common an urge toward expansion which knows no rational limits, feeds on its own successes and, if not stopped by a superior force, will go on to the confines of the political world. This urge will not be satisfied so long as there remains anywhere a possible object of domination–a politically organized group of men which by its very independence challenges the conqueror’s lust for power. It is, as we shall see, exactly the lack of moderation, the aspiration to conquer all that lends itself to conquest, characteristic of unlimited imperialism, which in the past has been the undoing of the imperialistic policies of this kind… “ It is the Unlimited Imperialists along the lines of Alexander, Rome, Napoleon and Hitler who are now in charge of conducting American foreign policy. The factual circumstances surrounding the outbreaks of both the First World War and the Second World War currently hover like twin Swords of Damocles over the heads of all humanity. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 8:45 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List Subject: Re: [Peace] Anti-Empire Report, March 7, 2017 Yes, it’s about the oil (and gas). But it’s about control of Mideast energy resources, not just (or even primarily) about access to them. (Trump is right, if somewhat lacking in detail…) As we say in the intro to AWARE ON THE AIR, "The US doesn’t need oil* from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the US a major advantage over Russia, China, Germany, and other countries - a chokehold which benefits only the American 1%. "The Bush and Obama administrations launched wars in the Mideast and killed well over a million people to control world energy, but they did manage to hide much of what they’re doing from the American people, if not from the rest of the world.” _____________ *Most of the oil imported into the US (and not re-exported) comes from the Atlantic basin - Canada, Nigeria, Venezuela… Only about 10% of what is consumed domestically is from the Mideast, and the bulk of that from the KSA. (From memory - I haven’t looked at these figures recently.) Regards, CGE > On Mar 7, 2017, at 6:29 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > It’s still all about the oil. At least Trump was honest and admitted it. Unlike his predecessors. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 6:28 PM > To: peace ; Peace-discuss List > Subject: [Peace] Fwd: Anti-Empire Report, March 7, 2017 > > https://williamblum.org/aer/read/149 > > "For the record: I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies.zFor the record: I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies." > > ### From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Mar 8 03:04:50 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 03:04:50 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary In-Reply-To: References: <2C144EA9-146A-49D3-81F5-35B737D8331D@illinois.edu> <2B52754B-6413-4095-BF58-0C6BFC66B1E1@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Obama’s Legacy Roberto Unger taught Jurisprudence To both Obama and me Here let me quote Our Wise Teacher’s apt summation Of Obama and his Administration: “Obama is a disaster!” Let that be Obama’s Legacy Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 8:45 PM To: Estabrook, Carl G Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary Yale Law School has been a Source of Evil since Gene Rostow was Dean. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 7:48 PM To: 'Carl G. Estabrook' Cc: 'Jay Becker' ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; 'Karen Aram' ; 'peace-discuss at anti-war.net' ; 'C. G. ESTABROOK' ; 'a-fields at uiuc.edu' ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; 'sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' ; 'Arlene Hickory' ; 'peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net' ; 'David Swanson' ; 'Dave Trippel' ; 'abass10 at gmail.com' ; 'mickalideh at gmail.com' ; 'Lina Thorne' ; 'chicago at worldcantwait.net' ; 'Mildred O'brien' ; 'David Johnson' ; 'Joe Lauria' ; 'David Green' Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary I have no evidence to believe that he is a war criminal and a murderer of US citizens like Killer Koh. So I am not going to organize a protest. But I am certainly not going to dignify him and them with my presence. But the best the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty can do is give us two Obama Lawyers as their Bookends for the Academic Year of 2016-2017 together with all their Yale Law Mafia speakers in between. Fab. 8. Killing Kids at Yale Law School Early January 1977 Just out of Harvard Law Looking for a job Landing at Yale Law 26 years old 2 hour faculty presentation In faculty lounge To my right Dean Harry Wellington Arrayed left and right Across the room Yale Law Faculty all Most distinguished crowd Sitting in the back Directly opposite Clear line of sight Glaring right at me Gene Rostow Ex Yale Law Dean Of the infamous Rostow brothers Who gave us Vietnam War criminal of the first rank 3 million exterminated Vietnamese Murdered 58,000 men of my generation Hey! Hey! LBJ! How many kids! Did you kill today! Went through my mind Gene was there to make sure I was never hired Had checked me out With his Harvard Law buddies Where my views were well known On everything Including Vietnam Especially the Palestinians For one hour Gene and I battled back and forth Blow for blow Shot for shot I stood my ground And matched him Rostow was just a bully Having grown up On the Irish Southside of Chicago I know how to deal with bullies Then Gene made a fatal mistake A wan smile came across my face I got you now! You sunova-bitch! You spent the last hour Trying to beat me up But now I have you Exactly where I want you I am going to destroy you! And I did! Made a complete, total and absolute fool Out of Gene In front of the entire Yale Law Faculty Many of whom he had hired Gene’s Kids Gene’s face turned beet red I stunned him into silence for the next hour! It was so bad Leon Lipson Broke out laughing In the Back of the Faculty Lounge Priceless! A little payback for Vietnam! Well worth the job Hey! Hey! Rostow say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Fasting forward to today Ex Yale Law Dean Harold Killer Koh Rejoins the Faculty After serving a stint As Obama’s War Consigliere Droner-in-Chief For the Harvard Law Commander-in-Chief Justifying Obama’s war crimes, crimes against peace, crimes against humanity Drones, murders, assassinations Violations of the Constitution Exterminating 50,000 Libyans With the bat of his eye Hey! Hey! Harold say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Killer Koh Is a worthy successor To Gene Rostow Yale Law’s Resident Dean War Criminals Hey! Hey! Yale Law Say! How many kids! Did you kill today! John Yoo too! Killer Koh’s pooh!   9. Diss-Ode to Harold Killer Koh Harold Killer Koh Killing Babies where he go Muslim life is cheap you see Jewish life too for the Nazi Carl Schmitt Professor of Law At the Yale Law School Boot-licking Gene Rostow Of the infamous Rostow Brothers Who gave us Vietnam Genociding “gooks” too Obama’s War Consigliere Gene and his “kids” for LBJ Some things never change for Dems And their Elite Law School Whores Today At Harvard Law School too Where Killers Obama and Koh First dropped their pooh Along with “Judge” Davey Barron too Obama’s Droner-in-Chief Destined for a Cell in The Hague Right next to his student John Yoo A Chip off of Harold’s Old Block Cold-blooded Killers and War Criminals too Killer Koh disteaching “human rights” at N.Y.U. Supported by his gang of Dem law prof thugs Beating up on the N.Y.U. law students few With the courage, integrity, and principles to say Never again!   Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 7:35 PM To: 'Carl G. Estabrook' Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: RE: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary Thanks Carl. Yeah, I have not seen it this bad during my lifetime, especially academic prostitutes for power. As I told my International Human Rights Law Students this week about the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty: Law Professors just love to suck up to those in power. They have now invited out one of Obama's top lawyers to speak at their commencement. QED. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 7:01 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Karen Aram ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green Subject: Re: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary And local anti-war activists thank you, Francis, for your comments on the current situation - misrepresented by government and media (and academics) to an extent not seen in decades. Regards, Carl > On Mar 5, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > Yeah, and I want to commend Carl for letting my start my Campaign against Killer Koh and the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty on his Aware TV Program. We all do what we can where we can. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:40 AM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J > ; Karen Aram ; > peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK > ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas > ; Szoke, Ron ; > sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; > peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson > ; Dave Trippel ; > abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne > ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien > ; David Johnson ; Joe > Lauria ; David Green > Subject: Re: Karen's Fine Commentary in NG on Urbana Sanctuary > > [Flyer distributed at the regular monthly demonstration by the > “Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort" of Champaign-Urbana, 4 March 2017] > > President Trump: End U.S. Wars > “...provide for the common defence...” > BRING ALL U.S. TROOPS AND WEAPONS HOME > > The U.S. is today making war in at least seven countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. In addition, the 70,000-member U.S. ‘Special Operations Command’ is active in no less than 70% of the countries of the world. Their activities include kidnapping (‘rendition’), torture, and murder. > > Since World War II, U.S. presidents have killed more than 20 million people in 37 nations. The U.S. continues to be what Martin Luther King called it long ago: “The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.” > > Why has our government plagued the world with war for more than two generations? The answer is simple and horrible - to protect the profits of the one percent - the American economic elite. > > When World War II ended in 1945, the U.S. was the only undamaged major country, and controlled the world economy, for the benefit of that one percent. In all the years since, U.S. administrations have been willing to kill people and make war to “maintain the disparity,” as American planners said. > > As a result, the U.S. government is today engaged in war and war provocations around the world: > > MIDEAST. Our anti-war group AWARE was established fifteen years ago, after the attacks of 9/11/2001, by citizens of Champaign-Urbana who realized that the U.S. government would use those crimes to justify its already long-standing attempts to exercise military control over the Mideast and its energy resources. The U.S. doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the U.S. a major advantage over China, Germany, and other countries - a chokehold which benefits only the American one percent. In 2003 the US illegally invaded Iraq - and killed perhaps a million people for that purpose - and now has thousands of troops and mercenaries throughout the Mideast. > > UKRAINE. The Obama administration arranged the overthrow of an elected president in Ukraine and helped to install the only European government since WWII to contain Nazis. Then it encouraged an attack on the eastern Ukrainian provinces who refused to submit to the coup, killing thousands. The attack continues, while Russia tries to arrange a cease-fire (Minsk II). The Crimea region, appalled by the coup government, voted to join Russia. > > E. EUROPE. When East and West Germany were reunited, in 1990, the U.S. promised it would not extend NATO into Eastern Europe. But the Clinton administration broke that promise, and NATO advanced to the Russian border. In his last days in office, President Obama sent troops and tanks into Poland. The last national leader to do that was Hitler: Russia, attacked through Poland in both WWI and WWII, was understandably alarmed. > > S. CHINA SEA. President Obama in 2011 said that creating an American presence in the Asia Pacific was his "top priority.” His “pivot to Asia” is a U.S. military build-up that threatens China’s trade routes, but for America's arms industry, the prize is huge profits. And the danger of confrontation grows by the day. > * * * > The U.S. government says we’re fighting terrorism, but we are in fact creating terrorists - in response particularly to the drone assassinations, “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - which have killed more than 5,000 people, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children. > > William Blum (author of “Killing Hope: US Military and CIA > Interventions Since World War II”) writes, > > “If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize - very publicly and very sincerely - to all the widows and the orphans, the impoverished and the tortured, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. I would then announce that America's global interventions - including the awful bombings - have come to an end. And I would inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the union but – oddly enough – a foreign country. I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims and repair the damage from the many American bombings and invasions...” > > ANTI-WAR ANTI-RACISM EFFORT - on Facebook at Urbana Illinois> ~ U.S. troops & weapons out of the Mideast! ~ > Medicare for all! ~ Universal basic income! ~ From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Mar 8 03:11:24 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 21:11:24 -0600 Subject: [Peace-discuss] A Little More Than Mackinder & Less Than Kind (cf. Hamlet 1.2) In-Reply-To: References: <549649.78ee8f1c.45f06ae0@aol.com> Message-ID: <5AD394AE-9BD2-41C1-9210-BC4C406C4E45@illinois.edu> Almost two years ago, Alfred McCoy offered a summary account of US imperial policy and its continuity over more than a century: "Washington's Great Game and Why It's Failing” >. Since World War II, US presidents have killed more than 20 million people in 37 nations - and not by accident. McCoy describes the roots of the policy that led to those US murders: "Who rules the Heartland commands the World-Island [Europe-Asia-Africa]; who rules the World-Island commands the world" (Halford Mackinder). At least since the Open Door (1899), the cornerstone of US foreign policy has been to prevent the integration of Eurasia (the 'Heartland') as a challenge to the economic hegemony of the US. (That's what the unpleasantness with the Japanese in the 1940s was about, e.g.) But we don’t speak of such things in polite society in the US (certainly not in the academy). To quote Harold Pinter, British playwright and 2005 Nobel Prize winner in literature: “It never happened. Nothing ever happened. Even while it was happening it wasn’t happening. It didn’t matter. It was of no interest. The crimes of the United States have been systematic, constant, vicious, remorseless, but very few people have actually talked about them.” —CGE > On Mar 7, 2017, at 8:51 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > Yeah, that's right. Control and domination of the oil and gas for the world. Fab > American Unlimited Imperialism > > Historically, this latest eruption of American militarism at the start of the 21st Century is akin to that of America opening the 20th Century by means of the U.S.-instigated Spanish-American War in 1898. Then the Republican administration of President William McKinley stole their colonial empire from Spain in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines; inflicted a near genocidal war against the Filipino people; while at the same time illegally annexing the Kingdom of Hawaii and subjecting the Native Hawaiian people (who call themselves the Kanaka Maoli) to near genocidal conditions. Additionally, McKinley’s military and colonial expansion into the Pacific was also designed to secure America’s economic exploitation of China pursuant to the euphemistic rubric of the “open door” policy. But over the next four decades America’s aggressive presence, policies, and practices in the “Pacific” would ineluctably pave the way for Japan’s attack at Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 194l, and thus America’s precipitation into the ongoing Second World War. Today a century later the serial imperial aggressions launched and menaced by the Republican Bush Jr. administration and now the Democratic Obama administration are threatening to set off World War III. > By shamelessly exploiting the terrible tragedy of 11 September 2001, the Bush Jr. administration set forth to steal a hydrocarbon empire from the Muslim states and peoples living in Central Asia and the Persian Gulf and Africa under the bogus pretexts of (1) fighting a war against international terrorism; and/or (2) eliminating weapons of mass destruction; and/or (3) the promotion of democracy; and/or (4) self-styled “humanitarian intervention”/responsibility to protect. Only this time the geopolitical stakes are infinitely greater than they were a century ago: control and domination of two-thirds of the world’s hydrocarbon resources and thus the very fundament and energizer of the global economic system – oil and gas. The Bush Jr./ Obama administrations have already targeted the remaining hydrocarbon reserves of Africa, Latin America, and Southeast Asia for further conquest or domination, together with the strategic choke-points at sea and on land required for their transportation. In this regard, the Bush Jr. administration announced the establishment of the U.S. Pentagon’s Africa Command (AFRICOM) in order to better control, dominate, and exploit both the natural resources and the variegated peoples of the continent of Africa, the very cradle of our human species. Libya and the Libyans became the first victims to succumb to AFRICOM under the Obama administration. They will not be the last. > This current bout of U.S. imperialism is what my teacher, mentor and friend Hans Morgenthau denominated “unlimited imperialism” in his seminal work Politics Among Nations (4th ed. 1968, at 52-53): > “The outstanding historic examples of unlimited imperialism are the expansionist policies of Alexander the Great, Rome, the Arabs in the seventh and eighth centuries, Napoleon I, and Hitler. They all have in common an urge toward expansion which knows no rational limits, feeds on its own successes and, if not stopped by a superior force, will go on to the confines of the political world. This urge will not be satisfied so long as there remains anywhere a possible object of domination–a politically organized group of men which by its very independence challenges the conqueror’s lust for power. It is, as we shall see, exactly the lack of moderation, the aspiration to conquer all that lends itself to conquest, characteristic of unlimited imperialism, which in the past has been the undoing of the imperialistic policies of this kind… “ > It is the Unlimited Imperialists along the lines of Alexander, Rome, Napoleon and Hitler who are now in charge of conducting American foreign policy. The factual circumstances surrounding the outbreaks of both the First World War and the Second World War currently hover like twin Swords of Damocles over the heads of all humanity. > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 8:45 PM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List > Subject: Re: [Peace] Anti-Empire Report, March 7, 2017 > > Yes, it’s about the oil (and gas). But it’s about control of Mideast energy resources, not just (or even primarily) about access to them. > > (Trump is right, if somewhat lacking in detail…) As we say in the intro to AWARE ON THE AIR, > > "The US doesn’t need oil* from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the US a major advantage over Russia, China, Germany, and other countries - a chokehold which benefits only the American 1%. > > "The Bush and Obama administrations launched wars in the Mideast and killed well over a million people to control world energy, but they did manage to hide much of what they’re doing from the American people, if not from the rest of the world.” > _____________ > *Most of the oil imported into the US (and not re-exported) comes from the Atlantic basin - Canada, Nigeria, Venezuela… Only about 10% of what is consumed domestically is from the Mideast, and the bulk of that from the KSA. (From memory - I haven’t looked at these figures recently.) > > Regards, CGE > > >> On Mar 7, 2017, at 6:29 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: >> >> It’s still all about the oil. At least Trump was honest and admitted it. Unlike his predecessors. Fab. >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> Law Building >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> Champaign, IL 61820 USA >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> (personal comments only) >> >> From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace >> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 6:28 PM >> To: peace ; Peace-discuss List >> Subject: [Peace] Fwd: Anti-Empire Report, March 7, 2017 >> >> https://williamblum.org/aer/read/149 >> >> "For the record: I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies.zFor the record: I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies." >> >> ### > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Mar 8 03:21:55 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 03:21:55 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] A Little More Than Mackinder & Less Than Kind (cf. Hamlet 1.2) In-Reply-To: <5AD394AE-9BD2-41C1-9210-BC4C406C4E45@illinois.edu> References: <549649.78ee8f1c.45f06ae0@aol.com> <5AD394AE-9BD2-41C1-9210-BC4C406C4E45@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Well Carl I did go through the exact same PHD Program at Harvard that produced Kissinger before me: Harvard Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, Department of Government—not the Kennedy School. They gave me Kissinger’s old office at the Center for International Affairs. To get a PHD from that Program you had to know your Machiavelli backward and forward and upside down and in your sleep and by rote—just like Kissinger did. Fab. 26. Kissy and Timmy and Me “You’re moving into Kissinger’s old office” Said Bud, the wizened old janitor And a decent guy at that “His file cabinets are in there.” Sure enough they were So it must be true “And down the hallway there Is Timothy Leary’s old office” So that must be true too! Kissy and Timmy Kissing Cousins in the Vanserg Building Amazing! Did they pass in the hall? Glance at each other? Say a few words of greeting? The last probably not Did they piss in the men’s room Silently standing next to each other? Staring at the wall Maybe so There was only one The counterfactuals of history What if Timmy had given Kissy acid? Timmy turn Kissy on? Maybe the world would have become A more peaceful place With Kissinger on acid It certainly Could not have been worse The Kissinger War Prize for Vietnam Obama got one too Those Norwegians Surely have A wicked sense of humor Timothy Leary’s dead No! No! He’s on the outside Looking in The Moodies Bards of My Woodstock Generation Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 9:11 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List Subject: A Little More Than Mackinder & Less Than Kind (cf. Hamlet 1.2) Almost two years ago, Alfred McCoy offered a summary account of US imperial policy and its continuity over more than a century: "Washington's Great Game and Why It's Failing” >. Since World War II, US presidents have killed more than 20 million people in 37 nations - and not by accident. McCoy describes the roots of the policy that led to those US murders: "Who rules the Heartland commands the World-Island [Europe-Asia-Africa]; who rules the World-Island commands the world" (Halford Mackinder). At least since the Open Door (1899), the cornerstone of US foreign policy has been to prevent the integration of Eurasia (the 'Heartland') as a challenge to the economic hegemony of the US. (That's what the unpleasantness with the Japanese in the 1940s was about, e.g.) But we don’t speak of such things in polite society in the US (certainly not in the academy). To quote Harold Pinter, British playwright and 2005 Nobel Prize winner in literature: “It never happened. Nothing ever happened. Even while it was happening it wasn’t happening. It didn’t matter. It was of no interest. The crimes of the United States have been systematic, constant, vicious, remorseless, but very few people have actually talked about them.” —CGE On Mar 7, 2017, at 8:51 PM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: Yeah, that's right. Control and domination of the oil and gas for the world. Fab American Unlimited Imperialism Historically, this latest eruption of American militarism at the start of the 21st Century is akin to that of America opening the 20th Century by means of the U.S.-instigated Spanish-American War in 1898. Then the Republican administration of President William McKinley stole their colonial empire from Spain in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines; inflicted a near genocidal war against the Filipino people; while at the same time illegally annexing the Kingdom of Hawaii and subjecting the Native Hawaiian people (who call themselves the Kanaka Maoli) to near genocidal conditions. Additionally, McKinley’s military and colonial expansion into the Pacific was also designed to secure America’s economic exploitation of China pursuant to the euphemistic rubric of the “open door” policy. But over the next four decades America’s aggressive presence, policies, and practices in the “Pacific” would ineluctably pave the way for Japan’s attack at Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 194l, and thus America’s precipitation into the ongoing Second World War. Today a century later the serial imperial aggressions launched and menaced by the Republican Bush Jr. administration and now the Democratic Obama administration are threatening to set off World War III. By shamelessly exploiting the terrible tragedy of 11 September 2001, the Bush Jr. administration set forth to steal a hydrocarbon empire from the Muslim states and peoples living in Central Asia and the Persian Gulf and Africa under the bogus pretexts of (1) fighting a war against international terrorism; and/or (2) eliminating weapons of mass destruction; and/or (3) the promotion of democracy; and/or (4) self-styled “humanitarian intervention”/responsibility to protect. Only this time the geopolitical stakes are infinitely greater than they were a century ago: control and domination of two-thirds of the world’s hydrocarbon resources and thus the very fundament and energizer of the global economic system – oil and gas. The Bush Jr./ Obama administrations have already targeted the remaining hydrocarbon reserves of Africa, Latin America, and Southeast Asia for further conquest or domination, together with the strategic choke-points at sea and on land required for their transportation. In this regard, the Bush Jr. administration announced the establishment of the U.S. Pentagon’s Africa Command (AFRICOM) in order to better control, dominate, and exploit both the natural resources and the variegated peoples of the continent of Africa, the very cradle of our human species. Libya and the Libyans became the first victims to succumb to AFRICOM under the Obama administration. They will not be the last. This current bout of U.S. imperialism is what my teacher, mentor and friend Hans Morgenthau denominated “unlimited imperialism” in his seminal work Politics Among Nations (4th ed. 1968, at 52-53): “The outstanding historic examples of unlimited imperialism are the expansionist policies of Alexander the Great, Rome, the Arabs in the seventh and eighth centuries, Napoleon I, and Hitler. They all have in common an urge toward expansion which knows no rational limits, feeds on its own successes and, if not stopped by a superior force, will go on to the confines of the political world. This urge will not be satisfied so long as there remains anywhere a possible object of domination–a politically organized group of men which by its very independence challenges the conqueror’s lust for power. It is, as we shall see, exactly the lack of moderation, the aspiration to conquer all that lends itself to conquest, characteristic of unlimited imperialism, which in the past has been the undoing of the imperialistic policies of this kind… “ It is the Unlimited Imperialists along the lines of Alexander, Rome, Napoleon and Hitler who are now in charge of conducting American foreign policy. The factual circumstances surrounding the outbreaks of both the First World War and the Second World War currently hover like twin Swords of Damocles over the heads of all humanity. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 8:45 PM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List > Subject: Re: [Peace] Anti-Empire Report, March 7, 2017 Yes, it’s about the oil (and gas). But it’s about control of Mideast energy resources, not just (or even primarily) about access to them. (Trump is right, if somewhat lacking in detail…) As we say in the intro to AWARE ON THE AIR, "The US doesn’t need oil* from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the US a major advantage over Russia, China, Germany, and other countries - a chokehold which benefits only the American 1%. "The Bush and Obama administrations launched wars in the Mideast and killed well over a million people to control world energy, but they did manage to hide much of what they’re doing from the American people, if not from the rest of the world.” _____________ *Most of the oil imported into the US (and not re-exported) comes from the Atlantic basin - Canada, Nigeria, Venezuela… Only about 10% of what is consumed domestically is from the Mideast, and the bulk of that from the KSA. (From memory - I haven’t looked at these figures recently.) Regards, CGE On Mar 7, 2017, at 6:29 PM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: It’s still all about the oil. At least Trump was honest and admitted it. Unlike his predecessors. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 6:28 PM To: peace >; Peace-discuss List > Subject: [Peace] Fwd: Anti-Empire Report, March 7, 2017 https://williamblum.org/aer/read/149 "For the record: I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies.zFor the record: I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies." ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Mar 8 04:28:09 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 22:28:09 -0600 Subject: [Peace-discuss] A Little More Than Mackinder & Less Than Kind (cf. Hamlet 1.2) In-Reply-To: References: <549649.78ee8f1c.45f06ae0@aol.com> <5AD394AE-9BD2-41C1-9210-BC4C406C4E45@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <8CBADDA4-3C06-4F9B-86F1-7B5076291106@illinois.edu> Francis-- When we were undergraduates, my late friend Perry Bullard - anti-war activist, Navy airman, Michigan legislator, and a man of infinite jest - took Kissinger’s graduate seminar in ‘government’ (not ‘political science’). At dinner, he would regale us with tales of Kissinger’s oddness, e.g. - he would always enter the class dressed in a black suit, black horn-rimmed glasses, carrying a black briefcase - and followed by three graduate students (“section men”) identically dressed… Even in that long-ago day and our green, unknowing youth, we knew that 'Henry the K' was talking dangerous nonsense... (Requiescas in pace frater.) —CGE PS - I won’t try to match your versifying, but as an avocational actor, I’m put in mind of the following: THOUGH actors cannot much of learning boast, Of all who want it, we admire it most: We love the praises of a learned pit, As we remotely are allied to wit. We speak our poet’s wit, and trade in ore, Like those who touch upon the golden shore; Betwixt our judges can distinction make, Discern how much, and why, our poems take; Mark if the fools, or men of sense, rejoice; Whether th’ applause be only sound or voice. When our fop gallants, or our city folly, Clap over-loud, it makes us melancholy: We doubt that scene which does their wonder raise, And, for their ignorance, contemn their praise. Judge then, if we who act, and they who write, Should not be proud of giving you delight. London like grossly; but this nicer pit Examines, fathoms, all the depths of wit; The ready finger lays on every blot; Knows what should justly please, and what should not. Nature herself lies open to your view, You judge by her what draught of her is true, Where outlines false, and colours seem too faint, Where bunglers daub, and where true poets paint. But, by the sacred genius of this place, By every Muse, by each domestic grace, Be kind to wit, which but endeavours well, And, where you judge, presumes not to excel. Our poets hither for adoption come, As nations sued to be made free of Rome: Not in the suffragating tribes to stand, But in your utmost, last, provincial band. If his ambition may those opes pursue, Who with religion loves your arts and you, Oxford to him a dearer name shall be, Than his own mother-university. Thebes did his green, unknowing youth engage; He chooses Athens in his riper age. —Dryden, Prologue to the University of Oxford, 1681 > On Mar 7, 2017, at 9:21 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > Well Carl I did go through the exact same PHD Program at Harvard that produced Kissinger before me: Harvard Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, Department of Government—not the Kennedy School. They gave me Kissinger’s old office at the Center for International Affairs. To get a PHD from that Program you had to know your Machiavelli backward and forward and upside down and in your sleep and by rote—just like Kissinger did. Fab. > 26. > > Kissy and Timmy and Me > > “You’re moving into Kissinger’s old office” > Said Bud, the wizened old janitor > And a decent guy at that > “His file cabinets are in there.” > Sure enough they were > So it must be true > > “And down the hallway there > Is Timothy Leary’s old office” > So that must be true too! > Kissy and Timmy > Kissing Cousins in the Vanserg Building > Amazing! > > Did they pass in the hall? > Glance at each other? > Say a few words of greeting? > The last probably not > > Did they piss in the men’s room > Silently standing next to each other? > Staring at the wall > Maybe so > There was only one > > The counterfactuals of history > What if Timmy had given Kissy acid? > Timmy turn Kissy on? > Maybe the world would have become > A more peaceful place > With Kissinger on acid > It certainly > Could not have been worse > > The Kissinger War Prize for Vietnam > Obama got one too > Those Norwegians > Surely have > A wicked sense of humor > > Timothy Leary’s dead > No! No! > He’s on the outside > Looking in > The Moodies > Bards of My Woodstock Generation > > > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Mar 8 13:27:46 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 13:27:46 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?Henry_Kissinger_at_Harvard_=26_White_Ho?= =?utf-8?q?use_Situation_Room=22=22Mein_F=C3=BChrer=2E=2E=2E!_I_can_walk!!?= =?utf-8?b?IiI=?= Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Francis Boyle via YouTube [mailto:noreply at youtube.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 7:26 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: Francis Boyle sent you a video: ""Mein Führer...! I can walk!!"" 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A young guest, Grant Neal, who blows me away with his knowledge. Of course Carl is always good and informative. [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KtNjt4gA3Qw/hqdefault.jpg] 140 videos [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TMkjKeGJApc/mqdefault.jpg] [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/U4J1RN1PAys/mqdefault.jpg] [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pc3Wn6x6s88/mqdefault.jpg] AWARE on the Air PLAYLIST by UPTV6 Help center • Report spam ©2017 YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Mar 8 15:07:25 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 15:07:25 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: "AWARE on the Air" References: <001a11492a3e6987b3054a397343@google.com> Message-ID: [http://s.ytimg.com/yt/img/email/digest/email_header.png] karenaram at hotmail.com has shared a video playlist with you on YouTube. A must watch, listen. A young guest, Grant Neal, who blows me away with his knowledge. 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Obama attacked the Syrian government in alliance with al-Qaeda: http://harpers.org/archive/2016/01/a-special-relationship/?single=1 "I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies.” --William Blum > —CGE > On Mar 8, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Another surge in Syria: > > https://www.yahoo.com/news/official-couple-hundred-us-marines-syria-225612067--politics.html?soc_src=hl-viewer&soc_trk=ma > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Obama attacked the Syrian government in alliance with al-Qaeda: http://harpers.org/archive/2016/01/a-special-relationship/?single=1 "I don’t support the US fighting ISIS in Syria. I don’t trust the Pentagon’s motivation, or their choice of bombing targets. They’re probably still into regime change. I’d leave the job to Russia and its allies.” --William Blum > —CGE On Mar 8, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss > wrote: Another surge in Syria: https://www.yahoo.com/news/official-couple-hundred-us-marines-syria-225612067--politics.html?soc_src=hl-viewer&soc_trk=ma _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Attempted to overthrow more than 50 governments, most of which were democratically-elected.[1] 2. Attempted to suppress a populist or nationalist movement in 20 countries.[2] 3. Grossly interfered in democratic elections in at least 30 countries.[3] 4. Dropped bombs on the people of more than 30 countries.[4] 5. Attempted to assassinate more than 50 foreign leaders.[5] In total: Since 1945, the United States has carried out one or more of the above actions, on one or more occasions, in the following 69 countries (more than one-third of the countries of the world): * Afghanistan * Albania * Algeria * Angola * Australia * Bolivia * Bosnia * Brazil * British Guiana (now Guyana) * Bulgaria * Cambodia * Chad * Chile * China * Colombia * Congo (also as Zaire) * Costa Rica * Cuba * Dominican Republic * East Timor * Ecuador * Egypt * El Salvador * Fiji * France * Germany (plus East Germany) * Ghana * Greece * Grenada * Guatemala * Honduras * India * Indonesia * Iran * Iraq * Italy * Jamaica * Japan * Kuwait * Laos * Lebanon * Libya * Mongolia * Morocco * Nepal * Nicaragua * North Korea * Pakistan * Palestine * Panama * Peru * Philippines * Portugal * Russia * Seychelles * Slovakia * Somalia * South Africa * Soviet Union * Sudan * Suriname * Syria * Thailand * Uruguay * Venezuela * Vietnam (plus North Vietnam) * Yemen (plus South Yemen) * Yugoslavia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Attempted to assassinate more than 50 foreign leaders.[5] In total: Since 1945, the United States has carried out one or more of the above actions, on one or more occasions, in the following 69 countries (more than one-third of the countries of the world): * Afghanistan * Albania * Algeria * Angola * Australia * Bolivia * Bosnia * Brazil * British Guiana (now Guyana) * Bulgaria * Cambodia * Chad * Chile * China * Colombia * Congo (also as Zaire) * Costa Rica * Cuba * Dominican Republic * East Timor * Ecuador * Egypt * El Salvador * Fiji * France * Germany (plus East Germany) * Ghana * Greece * Grenada * Guatemala * Honduras * India * Indonesia * Iran * Iraq * Italy * Jamaica * Japan * Kuwait * Laos * Lebanon * Libya * Mongolia * Morocco * Nepal * Nicaragua * North Korea * Pakistan * Palestine * Panama * Peru * Philippines * Portugal * Russia * Seychelles * Slovakia * Somalia * South Africa * Soviet Union * Sudan * Suriname * Syria * Thailand * Uruguay * Venezuela * Vietnam (plus North Vietnam) * Yemen (plus South Yemen) * Yugoslavia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Since the end of the Second World War, the United States of America has … > > Attempted to overthrow more than 50 governments, most of which were democratically-elected.[1] > Attempted to suppress a populist or nationalist movement in 20 countries.[2] > Grossly interfered in democratic elections in at least 30 countries.[3] > Dropped bombs on the people of more than 30 countries.[4] > Attempted to assassinate more than 50 foreign leaders.[5] > In total: Since 1945, the United States has carried out one or more of the above actions, on one or more occasions, in the following 69 countries (more than one-third of the countries of the world): > > Afghanistan > Albania > Algeria > Angola > Australia > Bolivia > Bosnia > Brazil > British Guiana (now Guyana) > Bulgaria > Cambodia > Chad > Chile > China > Colombia > Congo (also as Zaire) > Costa Rica > Cuba > Dominican Republic > East Timor > Ecuador > Egypt > El Salvador > Fiji > France > Germany (plus East Germany) > Ghana > Greece > Grenada > Guatemala > Honduras > India > Indonesia > Iran > Iraq > Italy > Jamaica > Japan > Kuwait > Laos > Lebanon > Libya > Mongolia > Morocco > Nepal > Nicaragua > North Korea > Pakistan > Palestine > Panama > Peru > Philippines > Portugal > Russia > Seychelles > Slovakia > Somalia > South Africa > Soviet Union > Sudan > Suriname > Syria > Thailand > Uruguay > Venezuela > Vietnam (plus North Vietnam) > Yemen (plus South Yemen) > Yugoslavia > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Since the end of the Second World War, the United States of America has … > > Attempted to overthrow more than 50 governments, most of which were democratically-elected.[1] > Attempted to suppress a populist or nationalist movement in 20 countries.[2] > Grossly interfered in democratic elections in at least 30 countries.[3] > Dropped bombs on the people of more than 30 countries.[4] > Attempted to assassinate more than 50 foreign leaders.[5] > In total: Since 1945, the United States has carried out one or more of the above actions, on one or more occasions, in the following 69 countries (more than one-third of the countries of the world): > > Afghanistan > Albania > Algeria > Angola > Australia > Bolivia > Bosnia > Brazil > British Guiana (now Guyana) > Bulgaria > Cambodia > Chad > Chile > China > Colombia > Congo (also as Zaire) > Costa Rica > Cuba > Dominican Republic > East Timor > Ecuador > Egypt > El Salvador > Fiji > France > Germany (plus East Germany) > Ghana > Greece > Grenada > Guatemala > Honduras > India > Indonesia > Iran > Iraq > Italy > Jamaica > Japan > Kuwait > Laos > Lebanon > Libya > Mongolia > Morocco > Nepal > Nicaragua > North Korea > Pakistan > Palestine > Panama > Peru > Philippines > Portugal > Russia > Seychelles > Slovakia > Somalia > South Africa > Soviet Union > Sudan > Suriname > Syria > Thailand > Uruguay > Venezuela > Vietnam (plus North Vietnam) > Yemen (plus South Yemen) > Yugoslavia > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But, no lets all be polite, not talk politics, focus on the mundane and promote those in power, because they have power which we as the American people continue to allow. On Mar 12, 2017, at 07:18, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: Yeah. Sure. Tell that to our Palestinian American Native American Studies Professor Steven Salaita, his wife and their baby whom Wise {sic} illegally fired and threw out into the street and with no visible means of support. A two’fer for bigotry and racism by Wise {sic!}. May Wise {sic!} rot in purgatory! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Sun Mar 12 15:07:47 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 10:07:47 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8BFC1024-B821-4C37-8673-FF4CA34620FD@illinois.edu> The problem is not with individuals, either university chancellors or US presidents. And can’t be cured by changing them. "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, / But in ourselves, that we are underlings.” Bring the troops home. Free education, healthcare, social supports, etc. > On Mar 12, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Francis > > I just read the letter published in the NG, of which you refer. I now offer my thoughts in my morning rant: > > Self serving, self promoting and using Wise as his reason to do so. Such slobbering adoration of “celebrities” maybe what has brought us to this brink of extinction of which we battle daily. With the likes of the mindless robots like Wise populating our government and academia, being rewarded with profit and stardom while the dead for which we as a nation, are responsible, don’t even have graves to lie in. Their bodies populate the lands of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan,Yemen and yes Palestine, which we can see if we bother to look. But, no lets all be polite, not talk politics, focus on the mundane and promote those in power, because they have power which we as the American people continue to allow. > > >> On Mar 12, 2017, at 07:18, Boyle, Francis A wrote: >> >> Yeah. Sure. Tell that to our Palestinian American Native American Studies Professor Steven Salaita, his wife and their baby whom Wise {sic} illegally fired and threw out into the street and with no visible means of support. A two’fer for bigotry and racism by Wise {sic!}. May Wise {sic!} rot in purgatory! >> Fab >> >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> Law Building >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> Champaign IL 61820 USA >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> (personal comments only) > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Mar 12 15:30:16 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 15:30:16 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} In-Reply-To: <8BFC1024-B821-4C37-8673-FF4CA34620FD@illinois.edu> References: <8BFC1024-B821-4C37-8673-FF4CA34620FD@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Well to some extent you are right Carl. The only principled Chancellor they have had here in recent memory is Nancy Kantor. And they fired her because of her opposition to Chief Illiniwak. Which brings me back to Wise {sic!} illegally firing Salaita because he is Palestinian and would teach Native American Studies. Wise {sic!} has to assume the responsibility for what she did to him, his wife, their baby and their entire Family: illegally throwing them out into the street with no visible means of support. She knowingly walked into the notorious and pervasive bigotry and racism of this Institution. Let Wise {sic!} rot in purgatory! Fab. 78. The Racist Mascot: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the Jan. 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for their Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his Year 501: The Conquest Continues (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on this campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and a beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews," and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to "Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him.1 Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in that culminates with the band being organized into a Swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews march themselves into a Swastika. By now all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming and yelling: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out of the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says: "We are honoring the Jews." Whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "Boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. Historically, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, its Boards of Trustees, its Presidents, its Chancellors, its Provosts, its Deans, Directors and Department Heads, and most of its Faculty and Alumni/ae have always been the Ku Klux Klan dressed up in Caps and Gowns instead of Hoods and Sheets.   79. The Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! So here we are at Memorial Stadium on a beautiful Fall Saturday afternoon during the Michigan-Illiniwak Football Game. There are 77,000 drunken fans here and the game is covered nationwide and live by CBS TV. For the drunken fans on the radio, Jim Turpin of the News-Gazoo/ WDWS Illiniwak Media Empire attempts and fumbles the play-by-play calls. It is half-time. Time for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle. So here goes: 1. The Marching Illiniwak Drum/Dumb Corps take the field at Memorial stadium and proceed to strike up the special Illiniwak drumbeat that I had previously composed for them, all saying in unison over the gigantic stadium sound speaker system: Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! This special dumb-beat continues ad nauseam throughout the performance. 2. Now, out comes the rest of the University of Illiniwak's "Marching Illiniwak" band and strikes up the music for the famous pop song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" by The Tokens. 3. Then, out comes the University of Illiniwak's Glee Club and sings my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" over a special microphone/amplification system fed through the gigantic stadium speakers so that everyone can hear the magnificent lyrics: The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight Hush my Illiniwaks, my little Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Hush my Illiniwaks, my quiet Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Illiniwak Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. Oh! Bee Wah doo doo doo doo ayy! The Mighty Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! The Glee Club repeats these lyrics ad nauseam throughout the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! 4. Next the Marching Illiniwaks execute their famous "Three-in-One" Illiniwak March. 5. Now the most electrifying moment in sports history: Little Red Sambo Himself, Chief Illiniwak, runs through the band, pops out, and does his little Hollywood jig at mid-field. 6. Finally, all 77,000 people in the stadium begin to chant in unison and in time with the band and the Glee Club, adding in for emphasis, support, and of course dignity: Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak Repeated ad nauseam. This magnificent "Chief Illiniwak Spectacle" will of course be shown nation-wide to an audience of tens of millions of football fans and admirers of our "flagship" State University in the Great State of Illiniwaks. The University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign! Home of the the Marching Illiniwaks Band and their Official Mascot, Chief Illiniwak, Little Red Sambo Himself. Certainly the type of University you want to send your children to--unless they are Native American, African American, Asian American, or Latino/a.   80. Doctor Illiniwak, M.D. Got a note From a Doctor MD not PHD Saying he was just like me Illinois BS U Chicago Med Harvard Public Health He was so irate Against me for Chief Illiniwak That he told the Prez Of his beloved Alma Mater That he would not give a dime So long as I taught here Just like me? A sick puppy Pathetic Physician Typical Illinois BS Cult of Chief Illiniwak Brainwashing kids To become Die-hard bigots and racists For the rest of their lives I pity his patients Dr. Illiniwak needs a Shrink!   81. Salaita1 Now all the bigots and racists against Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims And the Academic Fascists Come out of the Closet For everyone to see Under the Guise of Civility These Academic Emperors wear no clothes Shooting themselves in the feet every day Could not happen to a nicer group Of Academic Schmucks Cowards and Hypocrites all What else is new? Such is life In the Sordid World of Academia Academic Freedom? LOL! Academic Integrity? LOL! Academic Tenure? LOL! First Amendment Rights? LOL! All balderdash and propaganda For the gullible to believe And the naïve Take it from me Been fighting them since 1968 When I started at U of C 49 Years of Struggle Still standing and fighting But it ain’t been easy Truth and Justice Against Power and Lies and Hypocrisy Poor Salaita Got his legs cut out from under him Norman Finkelstein too Many others three Not much I can do But saved a few Trying to protect my own back With all the Knives sticking out of it While marching forward Towards Truth and Justice As my Dad the litigator always said: Son, there’s nothing fair about life Ditto and in spades for Academia Bootlicking goes a long way Ass-kissing too Merit has little to do with it Mediocrity rises to the top The Peter Principle vindicated By the Academic World   82. The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illiniwaks1 The Principles on Which We Stand At the University of Illiniwaks: The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Long Live Chief Illiniwak! Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol For the University of Illiniwaks And Illiniwaks all over the world! Illiniwak Pride! Illiniwak Fever! The Daily Illiniwak Illiniwaks Yearbooks Illiniwaks Homecoming Our Redskin Tradition Eagle Feathers too Illiniwak Stadium Our Illiniwakettes Our Fighting Illiniwaks Illiniwak Cheerleaders Our Marching Illiniwaks Band Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Oskee! Bow! Wow! Just Honoring American Indians Not demeaning anyone Nor meaning them too All very civil How White of us all! The University of Illiniwaks Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Racists to boot Genocidaires too So very educational Cult of Chief Illiniwak Anthro 101 A required course To get our degrees From the University of Illiniwaks Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever!   Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:08 AM To: Karen Aram Cc: Boyle, Francis A ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; Jay Becker ; Wise, Phyllis M ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Joe Lauria ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; Dave Trippel ; Arlene Hickory ; David Swanson ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} The problem is not with individuals, either university chancellors or US presidents. And can’t be cured by changing them. "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, / But in ourselves, that we are underlings.” Bring the troops home. Free education, healthcare, social supports, etc. > On Mar 12, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Francis > > I just read the letter published in the NG, of which you refer. I now offer my thoughts in my morning rant: > > Self serving, self promoting and using Wise as his reason to do so. Such slobbering adoration of “celebrities” maybe what has brought us to this brink of extinction of which we battle daily. With the likes of the mindless robots like Wise populating our government and academia, being rewarded with profit and stardom while the dead for which we as a nation, are responsible, don’t even have graves to lie in. Their bodies populate the lands of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan,Yemen and yes Palestine, which we can see if we bother to look. But, no lets all be polite, not talk politics, focus on the mundane and promote those in power, because they have power which we as the American people continue to allow. > > >> On Mar 12, 2017, at 07:18, Boyle, Francis A wrote: >> >> Yeah. Sure. Tell that to our Palestinian American Native American Studies Professor Steven Salaita, his wife and their baby whom Wise {sic} illegally fired and threw out into the street and with no visible means of support. A two’fer for bigotry and racism by Wise {sic!}. May Wise {sic!} rot in purgatory! >> Fab >> >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> Law Building >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> Champaign IL 61820 USA >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> (personal comments only) > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From galliher at illinois.edu Sun Mar 12 15:38:44 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 10:38:44 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} In-Reply-To: References: <8BFC1024-B821-4C37-8673-FF4CA34620FD@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <7A785EE5-2459-41B5-A900-A86E177A5074@illinois.edu> Of course you know as well as I do, Francis, that purgatory is not for rot but for reform. Regards, CGE > On Mar 12, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > Well to some extent you are right Carl. The only principled Chancellor they have had here in recent memory is Nancy Kantor. And they fired her because of her opposition to Chief Illiniwak. Which brings me back to Wise {sic!} illegally firing Salaita because he is Palestinian and would teach Native American Studies. Wise {sic!} has to assume the responsibility for what she did to him, his wife, their baby and their entire Family: illegally throwing them out into the street with no visible means of support. She knowingly walked into the notorious and pervasive bigotry and racism of this Institution. > Let Wise {sic!} rot in purgatory! Fab. > > 78. > > The Racist Mascot: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois > > The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the Jan. 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for their Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his Year 501: The Conquest Continues (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on this campus: > > Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and a beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews," and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to "Save the Rabbi!" > > This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him.1 > > Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in that culminates with the band being organized into a Swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews march themselves into a Swastika. By now all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming and yelling: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out of the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. > > When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says: "We are honoring the Jews." Whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "Boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. > > Historically, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, its Boards of Trustees, its Presidents, its Chancellors, its Provosts, its Deans, Directors and Department Heads, and most of its Faculty and Alumni/ae have always been the Ku Klux Klan dressed up in Caps and Gowns instead of Hoods and Sheets. >   > 79. > > The Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! > > So here we are at Memorial Stadium on a beautiful Fall Saturday afternoon during the Michigan-Illiniwak Football Game. There are 77,000 drunken fans here and the game is covered nationwide and live by CBS TV. For the drunken fans on the radio, Jim Turpin of the News-Gazoo/ WDWS Illiniwak Media Empire attempts and fumbles the play-by-play calls. It is half-time. Time for the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle. So here goes: > > 1. The Marching Illiniwak Drum/Dumb Corps take the field at Memorial stadium and proceed to strike up the special Illiniwak drumbeat that I had previously composed for them, all saying in unison over the gigantic stadium sound speaker system: > > Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! > Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! > > This special dumb-beat continues ad nauseam throughout the performance. > > 2. Now, out comes the rest of the University of Illiniwak's "Marching Illiniwak" band and strikes up the music for the famous pop song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" by The Tokens. > > 3. Then, out comes the University of Illiniwak's Glee Club and sings my song "The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight" over a special microphone/amplification system fed through the gigantic stadium speakers so that everyone can hear the magnificent lyrics: > > The Chancellor Sleeps Tonight > > Hush my Illiniwaks, my little Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! > Hush my Illiniwaks, my quiet Illiniwaks, the Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! > Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, Illiniwak > Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak. Illiniwak, > Oh! Bee Wah do do do do ay. > Oh! Bee Wah doo doo doo doo ayy! > The Mighty Chancellor Sleeps Tonight! > Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! > > The Glee Club repeats these lyrics ad nauseam throughout the Chief Illiniwak Spectacle! > > 4. Next the Marching Illiniwaks execute their famous "Three-in-One" > Illiniwak March. > > 5. Now the most electrifying moment in sports history: Little Red Sambo Himself, Chief Illiniwak, runs through the band, pops out, and does his little Hollywood jig at mid-field. > > 6. Finally, all 77,000 people in the stadium begin to chant in unison and in time with the band and the Glee Club, adding in for emphasis, support, and of course dignity: > > Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak, Illiniwak,Illiniwak,Illiniwak, Illiniwak > > Repeated ad nauseam. > > This magnificent "Chief Illiniwak Spectacle" will of course be shown nation-wide to an audience of tens of millions of football fans and admirers of our "flagship" State University in the Great State of Illiniwaks. The University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign! Home of the the Marching Illiniwaks Band and their Official Mascot, Chief Illiniwak, Little Red Sambo Himself. Certainly the type of University you want to send your children to--unless they are Native American, African American, Asian American, or Latino/a. >   > 80. > > Doctor Illiniwak, M.D. > > Got a note > From a Doctor > MD not PHD > Saying he was just like me > > Illinois BS > U Chicago Med > Harvard Public Health > > He was so irate > Against me for Chief Illiniwak > That he told the Prez > Of his beloved Alma Mater > That he would not give a dime > So long as I taught here > > Just like me? > A sick puppy > Pathetic Physician > Typical Illinois BS > > Cult of Chief Illiniwak > Brainwashing kids > To become Die-hard bigots and racists > For the rest of their lives > I pity his patients > Dr. Illiniwak needs a Shrink! >   > 81. > > Salaita1 > > Now all the bigots and racists against Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims > And the Academic Fascists > Come out of the Closet > For everyone to see > Under the Guise of Civility > These Academic Emperors wear no clothes > > Shooting themselves in the feet every day > Could not happen to a nicer group > Of Academic Schmucks > Cowards and Hypocrites all > What else is new? > Such is life > In the Sordid World of Academia > > Academic Freedom? LOL! > Academic Integrity? LOL! > Academic Tenure? LOL! > First Amendment Rights? LOL! > > All balderdash and propaganda > For the gullible to believe > And the naïve > Take it from me > Been fighting them since 1968 > When I started at U of C > 49 Years of Struggle > Still standing and fighting > But it ain’t been easy > Truth and Justice > Against Power and Lies and Hypocrisy > > Poor Salaita > Got his legs cut out from under him > Norman Finkelstein too > Many others three > Not much I can do > But saved a few > Trying to protect my own back > With all the Knives sticking out of it > While marching forward > Towards Truth and Justice > > As my Dad the litigator always said: > Son, there’s nothing fair about life > Ditto and in spades for Academia > > Bootlicking goes a long way > Ass-kissing too > Merit has little to do with it > Mediocrity rises to the top > The Peter Principle vindicated > By the Academic World >   > 82. > > The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illiniwaks1 > > The Principles on Which We Stand > At the University of Illiniwaks: > The Cult of Chief Illiniwak > Long Live Chief Illiniwak! > Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol > For the University of Illiniwaks > And Illiniwaks all over the world! > > Illiniwak Pride! > Illiniwak Fever! > The Daily Illiniwak > Illiniwaks Yearbooks > > Illiniwaks Homecoming > Our Redskin Tradition > Eagle Feathers too > > Illiniwak Stadium > Our Illiniwakettes > Our Fighting Illiniwaks > Illiniwak Cheerleaders > > Our Marching Illiniwaks Band > Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle > Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! > Oskee! Bow! Wow! > > Just Honoring American Indians > Not demeaning anyone > Nor meaning them too > All very civil > How White of us all! > > The University of Illiniwaks > Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! > Racists to boot > Genocidaires too > > So very educational > Cult of Chief Illiniwak > Anthro 101 > A required course > To get our degrees > From the University of Illiniwaks > Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever! >   > > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:08 AM > To: Karen Aram > Cc: Boyle, Francis A ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; Jay Becker ; Wise, Phyllis M ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Joe Lauria ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; Dave Trippel ; Arlene Hickory ; David Swanson ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} > > The problem is not with individuals, either university chancellors or US presidents. And can’t be cured by changing them. > > "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, / But in ourselves, that we are underlings.” > > Bring the troops home. Free education, healthcare, social supports, etc. > > >> On Mar 12, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Francis >> >> I just read the letter published in the NG, of which you refer. I now offer my thoughts in my morning rant: >> >> Self serving, self promoting and using Wise as his reason to do so. Such slobbering adoration of “celebrities” maybe what has brought us to this brink of extinction of which we battle daily. With the likes of the mindless robots like Wise populating our government and academia, being rewarded with profit and stardom while the dead for which we as a nation, are responsible, don’t even have graves to lie in. Their bodies populate the lands of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan,Yemen and yes Palestine, which we can see if we bother to look. But, no lets all be polite, not talk politics, focus on the mundane and promote those in power, because they have power which we as the American people continue to allow. >> >> >>> On Mar 12, 2017, at 07:18, Boyle, Francis A wrote: >>> >>> Yeah. Sure. Tell that to our Palestinian American Native American Studies Professor Steven Salaita, his wife and their baby whom Wise {sic} illegally fired and threw out into the street and with no visible means of support. A two’fer for bigotry and racism by Wise {sic!}. May Wise {sic!} rot in purgatory! >>> Fab >>> >>> >>> Francis A. Boyle >>> Law Building >>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >>> Champaign IL 61820 USA >>> 217-333-7954 (phone) >>> 217-244-1478 (fax) >>> (personal comments only) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Mar 12 15:44:49 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 15:44:49 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah, Wise {sic!} tried to pawn herself off as “Ms Diversity.” But she proved to be a die-hard bigot and a racist when it came to Palestinians and Native Americans. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 9:48 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green ; Wise, Phyllis M Subject: Re: News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} Francis I just read the letter published in the NG, of which you refer. I now offer my thoughts in my morning rant: Self serving, self promoting and using Wise as his reason to do so. Such slobbering adoration of “celebrities” maybe what has brought us to this brink of extinction of which we battle daily. With the likes of the mindless robots like Wise populating our government and academia, being rewarded with profit and stardom while the dead for which we as a nation, are responsible, don’t even have graves to lie in. Their bodies populate the lands of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan,Yemen and yes Palestine, which we can see if we bother to look. But, no lets all be polite, not talk politics, focus on the mundane and promote those in power, because they have power which we as the American people continue to allow. On Mar 12, 2017, at 07:18, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: Yeah. Sure. Tell that to our Palestinian American Native American Studies Professor Steven Salaita, his wife and their baby whom Wise {sic} illegally fired and threw out into the street and with no visible means of support. A two’fer for bigotry and racism by Wise {sic!}. May Wise {sic!} rot in purgatory! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Mar 12 16:26:22 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 16:26:22 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} In-Reply-To: <8BFC1024-B821-4C37-8673-FF4CA34620FD@illinois.edu> References: <8BFC1024-B821-4C37-8673-FF4CA34620FD@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Did I say the fault is with individuals? The fault is with society, a society that requires civility, and reverence for those in authority. Apathy for that which should outrage us all. Those who comply with societies rules are complicit in it’s crimes. > On Mar 12, 2017, at 08:07, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: > > The problem is not with individuals, either university chancellors or US presidents. And can’t be cured by changing them. > > "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, / But in ourselves, that we are underlings.” > > Bring the troops home. Free education, healthcare, social supports, etc. > > >> On Mar 12, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Francis >> >> I just read the letter published in the NG, of which you refer. I now offer my thoughts in my morning rant: >> >> Self serving, self promoting and using Wise as his reason to do so. Such slobbering adoration of “celebrities” maybe what has brought us to this brink of extinction of which we battle daily. With the likes of the mindless robots like Wise populating our government and academia, being rewarded with profit and stardom while the dead for which we as a nation, are responsible, don’t even have graves to lie in. Their bodies populate the lands of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan,Yemen and yes Palestine, which we can see if we bother to look. But, no lets all be polite, not talk politics, focus on the mundane and promote those in power, because they have power which we as the American people continue to allow. >> >> >>> On Mar 12, 2017, at 07:18, Boyle, Francis A wrote: >>> >>> Yeah. Sure. Tell that to our Palestinian American Native American Studies Professor Steven Salaita, his wife and their baby whom Wise {sic} illegally fired and threw out into the street and with no visible means of support. A two’fer for bigotry and racism by Wise {sic!}. May Wise {sic!} rot in purgatory! >>> Fab >>> >>> >>> Francis A. Boyle >>> Law Building >>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >>> Champaign IL 61820 USA >>> 217-333-7954 (phone) >>> 217-244-1478 (fax) >>> (personal comments only) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Mar 12 17:44:31 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 17:44:31 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wise {sic!} maliciously destroyed the entire academic career of our Palestinian Native American Studies Professor along with our Native American Studies Department for a mere $800,000 in taxpayer’s money. No skin off her nose! May she rot in purgatory! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:45 AM To: Karen Aram Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green ; Wise, Phyllis M Subject: RE: News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} Yeah, Wise {sic!} tried to pawn herself off as “Ms Diversity.” But she proved to be a die-hard bigot and a racist when it came to Palestinians and Native Americans. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 9:48 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green >; Wise, Phyllis M > Subject: Re: News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} Francis I just read the letter published in the NG, of which you refer. I now offer my thoughts in my morning rant: Self serving, self promoting and using Wise as his reason to do so. Such slobbering adoration of “celebrities” maybe what has brought us to this brink of extinction of which we battle daily. With the likes of the mindless robots like Wise populating our government and academia, being rewarded with profit and stardom while the dead for which we as a nation, are responsible, don’t even have graves to lie in. Their bodies populate the lands of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan,Yemen and yes Palestine, which we can see if we bother to look. But, no lets all be polite, not talk politics, focus on the mundane and promote those in power, because they have power which we as the American people continue to allow. On Mar 12, 2017, at 07:18, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: Yeah. Sure. Tell that to our Palestinian American Native American Studies Professor Steven Salaita, his wife and their baby whom Wise {sic} illegally fired and threw out into the street and with no visible means of support. A two’fer for bigotry and racism by Wise {sic!}. 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So when the death penalty is upheld, its often to eradicate the innocent. Begin forwarded message: From: Uglytruth-Thailand > Subject: [New post] Thai-style Kangaroo Court Injustice Date: March 11, 2017 at 23:13:59 PST To: karenaram at hotmail.com New post on Uglytruth-Thailand [http://s0.wp.com/i/emails/blavatar.png] [http://2.gravatar.com/avatar/b94c98491e599510a5ec039e64af3261?s=50&d=identicon&r=G] Thai-style Kangaroo Court Injustice by uglytruththailand Giles Ji Ungpakorn According to the daily newspaper Khao Sod, the Appeals Court recently announced its decision to uphold the death sentences for two migrant Burmese workers convicted of a brutal rape and double homicide on island of Ko Tao. [See http://bit.ly/2mKOdFo ] Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo, migrant workers on the island, were convicted of the September 2014 murders of David Miller and Hannah Witheridge largely on the basis of DNA traces police claimed were recovered from the crime scene and Ms Witheridge’s body. No other physical evidence or witness testimony directly linked them to the crime. The crime scene was allowed to be hopelessly contaminated by the incompetent Thai police. The police are also suspected of being involved with the circulation of inappropriate naked photos of Ms Witheridge’s corpse on social media. The defence was never allowed to independently test the DNA evidence on its own, and many have cast doubt on the integrity of the police investigation and the Thai justice system. The trial came after an investigation widely criticized for unprofessional bungling, and accusations that desperate investigators arrested two men on the margins of society for use as scapegoats. Burmese migrants are continually being scape-goated in Thailand. The two were being held at the Bang Kwang Central Prison in Bangkok and were not allowed in court. No witnesses were called during the appeals process and defence lawyers were not informed. The Appeals Court simply endorsed evidence and testimony already entered into the record during the initial trial. There has long been a lack of justice in the Thai court system with the rich and powerful always escaping punishment while ordinary working people are assumed guilty before trial and treated with contempt. Migrant workers receive even worse treatment. All this is due to a number of factors; a lack of democracy, a judicial system under the control of the corrupt elites, the weakness of trade unions and socialist parties who could act as tribunes of the oppressed, and the elite-driven racism which permeates society. Of course the presence of a ruling military junta only makes matters worse. Generalissimo Prayut initially remarked about the Ko Tao murders that women should not wear bikinis on the beach. He and his ilk always like to create an image of “brutal efficiency” in dealing with problems. Thus the need to quickly find scape goats to “clear up” cases. Prayut has also gone on the rampage, using his “because I say so” article 44 to order the occupation of Dammakeye temple and hundreds of sackings and appointments of state officials. [See http://bit.ly/1RM69fv ] Since the 2014 military coup, many opponents of the military have been hauled in for “attitude changing sessions”, often in secret locations. Many have faced military courts. Recently the head of the military courts, General Tanin Tuntusawat, explained that the courts cared not a jot about human rights and merely followed the diktats of the junta. If the junta gets what it wants, no change is on the horizon. Deputy Prime Minister Wisanu Krua-ngarm warned people that even when Generalissimo Prayut was no longer Prime Minister, nothing would change. This is because he would be head of the National Strategic Committee and the military constitution states clearly that for 20 years after the first elections, governments will have to conform to the military’s National Strategic Plan. Further reading: http://bit.ly/1WjMcfF uglytruththailand | March 12, 2017 at 7:13 am | Tags: article 44, courts, Giles Ji Ungpakorn, Ko Tao, Military junta, Thai politics | Categories: Thai politics | URL: http://wp.me/p4bxj7-rx Unsubscribe to no longer receive posts from Uglytruth-Thailand. Change your email settings at Manage Subscriptions. Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: https://uglytruththailand.wordpress.com/2017/03/12/thai-style-kangaroo-court-injustice/ Thanks for flying with [https://s0.wp.com/i/emails/blavatar-default.png] WordPress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green ; Wise, Phyllis M Subject: RE: News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} Wise {sic!} maliciously destroyed the entire academic career of our Palestinian Native American Studies Professor along with our Native American Studies Department for a mere $800,000 in taxpayer’s money. No skin off her nose! May she rot in purgatory! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:45 AM To: Karen Aram > Cc: Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green >; Wise, Phyllis M > Subject: RE: News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} Yeah, Wise {sic!} tried to pawn herself off as “Ms Diversity.” But she proved to be a die-hard bigot and a racist when it came to Palestinians and Native Americans. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 9:48 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green >; Wise, Phyllis M > Subject: Re: News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} Francis I just read the letter published in the NG, of which you refer. I now offer my thoughts in my morning rant: Self serving, self promoting and using Wise as his reason to do so. Such slobbering adoration of “celebrities” maybe what has brought us to this brink of extinction of which we battle daily. With the likes of the mindless robots like Wise populating our government and academia, being rewarded with profit and stardom while the dead for which we as a nation, are responsible, don’t even have graves to lie in. Their bodies populate the lands of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan,Yemen and yes Palestine, which we can see if we bother to look. But, no lets all be polite, not talk politics, focus on the mundane and promote those in power, because they have power which we as the American people continue to allow. On Mar 12, 2017, at 07:18, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: Yeah. Sure. Tell that to our Palestinian American Native American Studies Professor Steven Salaita, his wife and their baby whom Wise {sic} illegally fired and threw out into the street and with no visible means of support. A two’fer for bigotry and racism by Wise {sic!}. May Wise {sic!} rot in purgatory! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Mar 12 18:53:49 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 18:53:49 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And the then Acting Dean Colombo of the Illinois Nazis Law School publicly supported Wise {sic!} in a bootlicking letter circulated to all of us. Another pathetic excuse for a human being. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 1:51 PM To: Karen Aram Cc: Jay Becker ; Hoffman, Valerie J ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson ; Dave Trippel ; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien ; David Johnson ; Joe Lauria ; David Green ; Wise, Phyllis M Subject: RE: News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} So notice: Wise {sic!} illegally and maliciously fired Salaita and threw him and his wife and their baby and their entire family out into the street with no visible means of support. She is a pathetic excuse for a human being! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:45 PM To: Karen Aram > Cc: Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green >; Wise, Phyllis M > Subject: RE: News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} Wise {sic!} maliciously destroyed the entire academic career of our Palestinian Native American Studies Professor along with our Native American Studies Department for a mere $800,000 in taxpayer’s money. No skin off her nose! May she rot in purgatory! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:45 AM To: Karen Aram > Cc: Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green >; Wise, Phyllis M > Subject: RE: News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} Yeah, Wise {sic!} tried to pawn herself off as “Ms Diversity.” But she proved to be a die-hard bigot and a racist when it came to Palestinians and Native Americans. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 9:48 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Jay Becker >; Hoffman, Valerie J >; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK >; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Miller, Joseph Thomas >; Szoke, Ron >; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory >; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; David Swanson >; Dave Trippel >; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne >; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien >; David Johnson >; Joe Lauria >; David Green >; Wise, Phyllis M > Subject: Re: News Gazette Comment on Wise {sic!} Francis I just read the letter published in the NG, of which you refer. I now offer my thoughts in my morning rant: Self serving, self promoting and using Wise as his reason to do so. Such slobbering adoration of “celebrities” maybe what has brought us to this brink of extinction of which we battle daily. With the likes of the mindless robots like Wise populating our government and academia, being rewarded with profit and stardom while the dead for which we as a nation, are responsible, don’t even have graves to lie in. Their bodies populate the lands of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan,Yemen and yes Palestine, which we can see if we bother to look. But, no lets all be polite, not talk politics, focus on the mundane and promote those in power, because they have power which we as the American people continue to allow. On Mar 12, 2017, at 07:18, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: Yeah. Sure. Tell that to our Palestinian American Native American Studies Professor Steven Salaita, his wife and their baby whom Wise {sic} illegally fired and threw out into the street and with no visible means of support. A two’fer for bigotry and racism by Wise {sic!}. May Wise {sic!} rot in purgatory! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r-szoke at illinois.edu Mon Mar 13 00:01:37 2017 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 00:01:37 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Trump's war just started (signature needed) References: <908587263.516558650@salsa4.salsa4DB.mail.salsalabs.com> Message-ID: <97F0D8F0-4440-47BB-AFF4-5733B498C8F1@illinois.edu> From: "Stephen Miles, Win Without War" > Subject: RE: Trump's war just started (signature needed) Date: March 12, 2017 at 12:16:42 PM CDT To: > Reply-To: > [https://salsa4.salsalabs.com/o/50956/images/www_logo.png] Dear Ron, I wanted to make sure you saw Richard's note below. As a veteran of the war in Afghanistan, Richard knows just how dangerous and counterproductive Trump's move to deploy hundred more American troops to Syria is. So far, more than 56,000 of us have stood up for peace - not more war - in Syria, but we're missing your name! Please join us in demanding an immediate halt to deploying American ground troops in Syria. Thanks, Stephen ________________________________ Dear Ron, [http://action.winwithoutwar.org/images/richard.jpg]Tell President Trump: Stop sending US ground troops to Syria. I know what it’s like to be deployed in the middle of a war zone. I was deployed to Afghanistan with the 82nd Airborne Division in 2007 and 2008. That’s why I was so shocked by the news that Donald Trump has just sent hundreds more Marines into combat in Syria. He’s sending these men and women into the midst of a bloody, six-year old war, putting their lives in danger while doing nothing to actually end the carnage in Syria. That’s why, as a veteran and as a citizen, I’m speaking out, and I need you to join me. Donald Trump has already shown that he is a reckless Commander in Chief. Just days into the job, he ordered a disastrous raid in Yemen that cost the life of a Navy SEAL and killed numerous civilians, including women and children. Now, with the news that he’s sent several hundred conventional troops into Syria, with hundreds more potentially on the way, he is jumping neck deep into the Middle East’s deadliest war. The war in Syria is a devastating crisis that has cost hundreds of thousands of lives, created millions of refugees, and dragged on for 6 long years. Experts agree that there is simply no military solution to the conflict, yet only weeks into his presidency, Donald Trump is heading into war and the same old broken thinking that every problem in the Middle East can be solved with American bombs. Make no mistake, this new deployment is a big, game changing deal. For the first time in Syria, conventional American troops will conduct operations outside the relative safety of a secure perimeter. Trump has ordered a new, riskier mission for our troops -- one that will dramatically increase the likelihood of casualties. This is a highly disturbing escalation of our involvement in Syria. That’s why we have to fight back. Please join me in demanding an immediate halt to deploying American ground troops in Syria. As a soldier, I saw firsthand the devastating consequences, both for my fellow men and women in uniform and for the local men, women and children whose lives are torn apart by the never-ending violence of our endless wars. Despite hundreds of thousands of lives lost and decades of war, Iraq and Afghanistan remain torn apart by violent conflict. That’s why it’s so important to fight back now, before any more troops are sent into battle fighting a war that cannot be won on the battlefield. Thank you! Richard Allen Smith, Afghanistan War Veteran P.S. This action is urgent. Please click below to add your signature today. http://action.winwithoutwar.org/p/dia/action4/common/public/?action_KEY=21262 [Donate][Facebook] [Twitter] Win Without War, 2000 M Street NW, Suite 720, Washington, DC 20036 (202) 232-3317 | info at winwithoutwar.org Copyright © 2016 Center for International Policy | Unsubscribe [empowered by Salsa] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Mar 13 01:05:49 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 01:05:49 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: My response submitted to the NG related to a response to my letter of 3/5/16 References: Message-ID: > > LEN GINGERICH’s letter of 3/9/17, suggesting the “undocumented” are crossing the borders of Arizona from Mexico to distribute illegal drugs to US communities, is as usual, targeting the “usual suspects,” that being the poor, and those unable to defend themselves. Associating the “undocumented” with drug dealers and criminals is a form of cruel, vilification used to victimize those we wish to dispose of. > > If we seriously wish to eradicate the drug problems in the US we need to target those really responsible for the distribution, and their corporate masters. We need to end the drug wars and treat drug addiction as the health issue that it is, as was done successfully in Portugal. We need to stop the incarcerations and close down many, if not most of the prisons across the nation. > > US government involvement in the drug trade is well known as stated in the April 2016 Harpers article “Legalize It All” by Dan Baum, White Out, in Counterpunch by Jeffrey St. Clair, Alfred McCoy’s: “The Politic’s of Heroin in Southeast Asia,” 1974. And, of course the Iran Contra Affair, see page 41 of the December 1988 Kerry report to the US Senate. From r-szoke at illinois.edu Mon Mar 13 01:10:43 2017 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 01:10:43 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Trump Administration Is Said to Be Working to Loosen Counterterrorism Rules References: <58C5F0A3.0000005A@pmta04.ewr1.nytimes.com> Message-ID: <3A345651-94FA-4CC3-A3A6-2FE3947050A2@illinois.edu> Subject: NYTimes.com: Trump Administration Is Said to Be Working to Loosen Counterterrorism Rules Date: March 12, 2017 at 8:06:43 PM CDT Sent by r-szoke at illinois.edu: [http://i1.nyt.com/images/misc/nytlogo194x27.gif] [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/13/us/13terror-01/13terror-01-thumbStandard.jpg] Trump Administration Is Said to Be Working to Loosen Counterterrorism Rules By CHARLIE SAVAGE and ERIC SCHMITT Operations in Somalia and Yemen will serve as tests for changing rules that were meant to prevent civilian deaths from some missions, officials familiar with internal deliberations say. 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Century Wire: One of the west’s biggest ‘initiatives’ designed to help undermine and delegitimize the Syrian government, has been the creation of a pseudo ‘NGO’ called the White Helmets. Previously, 21WIRE has reported on the various funding sources for the White Helmets. Here’s one breakdown of officially disclosed White Helmets funding, as of October 2016, although unknown or undisclosed sums could be substantially higher: [2-white-helmets-funding] This week, new information has emerged (see report below) about a somewhat clandestine fund kept by the UK government to fund various ‘initiatives’ including the White Helmets. Thus, it’s important to ask: exactly how much more money has the UK government poured into this shadow state operation? An additional $100 million, or $200 million, or more? When you take into account multiple reports by real Syrian residents about the the lack of training or professionalism of the White Helmets, and also multiple reports of their links to terrorists groups, it would be prudent to inquire exactly how much UK funding has been used to support extremist terrorist activity in Aleppo and Syria. Watch this stunning video presentation which raises these very questions: . Breaking this week… RT Ministers trying to find out what the government’s shadowy £1 billion (US$1.22 billion) conflict, stability and security (CSS) fund is being spent on say they are being given the runaround by Home Secretary Amber Rudd. During a session of the joint committee on national security strategy held on Monday, Rudd named the Syrian White Helmet ‘rescue’ organization as one recipient, but evaded questions about what other nations and groups received a share. Former Tory defense chief Lord Hamilton told Rudd that he had become aware that the committee was “responsible to parliament for the CSS fund,” but that MPs had been told the nations being handed cash were not to be revealed. “We said we would be mildly interested in knowing in which countries this money is spent. They said we can’t be told because it is secret. We feel we are groping around in the dark.” Rudd said that the fund was used for 97 different initiatives in 40 countries but declined to explain further, on the basis that the truth could be embarrassing and make other countries jealous. She did acknowledge that some funding went on the controversial White Helmets, among others. “They do a great job in reaching out, addressing UK interests in unstable areas,” she told the committee. “They include groups such as the White Helmets in Syria, who do a great job.” The White Helmets, which were founded by a former British Army officer, have been accused of being a front for Western soft power in the region… Continue this story at RT READ MORE WHITE HELMETS NEWS AT: 21st Century Wire White Helmets Files SUPPORT 21WIRE – SUBSCRIBE & BECOME A MEMBER @21WIRE.TV * Bio * Twitter * Facebook * YouTube * Latest Posts [21wire] 21wire We are a North American and European-based, grass-roots, independent blog offering geopolitical news and media analysis, working with an array of volunteer contributors who write and help to analyse news and opinion from around the world. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Mar 13 19:59:54 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 19:59:54 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] US taxpayer funding.......... Message-ID: * #FNFF Secret £1bn UK War Chest Used to Fund the White Helmets and Other ‘Initiatives’ MARCH 13, 2017 BY 21WIRE 0 COMMENTS 21st Century Wire says… 21st. Century Wire: One of the west’s biggest ‘initiatives’ designed to help undermine and delegitimize the Syrian government, has been the creation of a pseudo ‘NGO’ called the White Helmets. Previously, 21WIRE has reported on the various funding sources for the White Helmets. Here’s one breakdown of officially disclosed White Helmets funding, as of October 2016, although unknown or undisclosed sums could be substantially higher: [2-white-helmets-funding] This week, new information has emerged (see report below) about a somewhat clandestine fund kept by the UK government to fund various ‘initiatives’ including the White Helmets. Thus, it’s important to ask: exactly how much more money has the UK government poured into this shadow state operation? An additional $100 million, or $200 million, or more? When you take into account multiple reports by real Syrian residents about the the lack of training or professionalism of the White Helmets, and also multiple reports of their links to terrorists groups, it would be prudent to inquire exactly how much UK funding has been used to support extremist terrorist activity in Aleppo and Syria. Watch this stunning video presentation which raises these very questions: . Breaking this week… RT Ministers trying to find out what the government’s shadowy £1 billion (US$1.22 billion) conflict, stability and security (CSS) fund is being spent on say they are being given the runaround by Home Secretary Amber Rudd. During a session of the joint committee on national security strategy held on Monday, Rudd named the Syrian White Helmet ‘rescue’ organization as one recipient, but evaded questions about what other nations and groups received a share. Former Tory defense chief Lord Hamilton told Rudd that he had become aware that the committee was “responsible to parliament for the CSS fund,” but that MPs had been told the nations being handed cash were not to be revealed. “We said we would be mildly interested in knowing in which countries this money is spent. They said we can’t be told because it is secret. We feel we are groping around in the dark.” Rudd said that the fund was used for 97 different initiatives in 40 countries but declined to explain further, on the basis that the truth could be embarrassing and make other countries jealous. She did acknowledge that some funding went on the controversial White Helmets, among others. “They do a great job in reaching out, addressing UK interests in unstable areas,” she told the committee. “They include groups such as the White Helmets in Syria, who do a great job.” The White Helmets, which were founded by a former British Army officer, have been accused of being a front for Western soft power in the region… Continue this story at RT READ MORE WHITE HELMETS NEWS AT: 21st Century Wire White Helmets Files SUPPORT 21WIRE – SUBSCRIBE & BECOME A MEMBER @21WIRE.TV * Bio * Twitter * Facebook * YouTube * Latest Posts [21wire] 21wire We are a North American and European-based, grass-roots, independent blog offering geopolitical news and media analysis, working with an array of volunteer contributors who write and help to analyse news and opinion from around the world. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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["It is clear that we reach out to, but do not reach, an answer to our ultimate question, how come anything instead of nothing? But we are able to exclude some answers. If God is whatever answers our question, how come everything then evidently he is not to be included amongst everything. God cannot be a thing, an existent among others. It is not possible that God and the universe should add up to make two." --H. McCabe, 'God and Creation’] https://www.facebook.com/notes/carl-g-estabrook/herbert-mccabe-op-god-and-creation/10153640869347474 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Estabrook) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 21:47:03 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Why Trump is losing to the neolibs and neocons In-Reply-To: <016AA1A7-2EE3-42B1-A60A-6A38D0A813F6@illinois.edu> References: <7D39A6AC-5E71-438E-B770-0D89136D2DE1@illinois.edu> <016AA1A7-2EE3-42B1-A60A-6A38D0A813F6@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <5ACB3952-EE33-49F6-8D32-D39ECBE70388@illinois.edu> Once installed as President, with no prior ties to the Republican party or political experience of any sort, Trump was virtually bound to put together a government at variance with most of what he said on the campaign trail, drawing on bankers and businessmen, generals and a couple of politicos of right-wing stamp, to produce a cabinet out of George Grosz. His few intimates lurk in the background, within the White House or on the National Security Council. The incompatibilities between Trump and the party he shanghaied have been on display from the start. Before even their confirmation, his defence and foreign ministers were publicly contradicting him on the need for a swift understanding with Russia, the most incendiary of his themes, to which Washington as an imperial hub is most sensitive. Further along, conflicts over tariffs, deficits, health-care, are predictable. Immigration too, since unlike any European country, the US is historically a land of immigrants, where the kind of xenophobic backlash swelling in the EU and UK is off-set by a powerful ideology of welcome for newcomers, one that for equally historical reasons does not exist in Europe, as integral to, rather than a problem for, national identity. Passionate opposition to any all-out repression and expulsion of illegals has already sparked demonstrations in the streets and blockage in the courts, causing jumpiness in Republican ranks in Congress. The only domains in which there would appear to be a frictionless overlap between the President and his party are deregulation, where executive orders are already pouring forth, with legislative repeal of Dodd–Frank to follow, and judicial appointments, where unity over the Supreme Court is assured. Otherwise, even taxation, given talk of border adjustment charges, is proving contentious. Overlaying these structural tensions, themselves disabling policy coherence, is the personal style, impulsive and erratic, of the tyro at the helm of the state, spreading disorder in the conduct of its affairs. To all appearances, an Ubu Roi has been let loose in the White House. Nowhere more so, given virtually complete executive leeway, than in dealings with the outside world. Looking forward to the break-up of the EU, moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, tearing up the submission of Iran, threatening to upgrade relations with Taiwan, hinting at termination of sanctions on Russia, publicly browbeating Mexico—is there any rhyme or reason in such reckless trashing of received Atlantic wisdom? Or is it, as every indication would suggest, all random bluster, as easily retracted as vented? Plainly, it is too soon to say. Could some reverse edition of Nixon’s embrace of Beijing to put pressure on Moscow, an entente with Russia to squeeze China, so far the prime object of Presidential ire, yet emerge from the morass of ongoing confusions? The speed with which the security bureaucracy in Washington, with the press in full cry behind it, has moved to discredit any prospect of such a diplomatic somersault speaks for itself. Constitutionally, the power of the US Presidency in foreign affairs has few legislative restraints. But its condition is hierarchical discipline in the executive itself. Once this is freely breached, as in the encirclement of the West Wing under way, autonomy contracts and policy tends to revert to autopilot. The only reliable assumption is that American greatness requires the American empire, for whatever occasional ends it sets itself and with whatever tactical means necessary to pursue them. Institutional continuity will inevitably enfold and undoubtedly enfeeble individual caprice. --PERRY ANDERSON From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Wed Mar 15 13:28:56 2017 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 08:28:56 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: WORLD LABOR HOUR SAT. MARCH 18th Message-ID: <005d01d29d90$1c42d880$54c88980$@comcast.net> WORLD LABOR HOUR Saturday March 18th 11 AM - 1 PM Central Time 104.5 FM and webcast LIVE worldwide at www.wrfu.net Tod Treder - President of United Autoworkers ( UAW ) Local 9 in South Bend Indiana at Honeywell corporation, will talk about their recent lock-out. And Discussion and analysis of the attacks upon public sector Workers / privatization and the upcoming March 25th public sector workers fight back conference. Stay tuned after the World Labor Hour for THE UNION EDGE with Host Charles Showalter, broadcast from Pittsburgh Pa. WRFU - Radio Free Urbana - Corporate free community radio for the people. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 15 13:58:26 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 13:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Michael Hudson on heterodox economists References: <1994151323.772691.1489586306368.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1994151323.772691.1489586306368@mail.yahoo.com> Michael Hudson: “Heterodox” is a recent term coined mainly by the University of Missouri at Kansas City where I’m a professor along with Randall Wray and Stephanie Kelton and other members of the Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) school of thought. The term simply means not mainstream. We’re basically classical economists. We do what classical economics used to do, which is to distinguish between earned and unearned income. and between productive versus unproductive labor. And we see that banks create credit – which governments could create just as easily, along more socially and economically productive lines. We see budget deficits as providing the economy with money to fuel growth. That’s why Stephanie calls us “Deficit Owls” instead of the Republican and Clintonite Deficit Hawks who prefer commercial banks to provide the credit that the economy needs.We look at how the economy, goods and services and labor, exists within the context of wealth and assets and debt. And this is how people looked at the economy before there was anti-classical reaction in the 1890’s. We look at how land ownership, banks and credit shape the framework within which the economy operates – at interest.So we’re classical economists. Hyman Minsky was the main modern monetary theorist. Heterodox meant that he got his ideas largely from Marx. You can say classical political economy reached its logical conclusion with Marx. Capital was the last great work of classical economics, and showed where its logic was leading. Marx showed that capitalism itself was revolutionary. Capitalism was a continually self-transforming system. And so we’re looking at how the economy changes, not how it might settle at equilibrium without political change. It evolves, in what Marx called the laws of motion. So we’re putting the political back into what used to be political economy – before the “political” was stripped out a century ago and it moved toward today’s more tunnel-visioned “economics.” How Bankers Became the Top Exploiters of the Economy | | | | | | | | | | | How Bankers Became the Top Exploiters of the Economy The trick is to get other people in debt. How do you do that? You make them think that they can gain. They’re wi... | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Mar 15 14:28:58 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 09:28:58 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Gabbard, Rand Paul, and the Stop Arming Terrorists Act, In-Reply-To: <5ACB3952-EE33-49F6-8D32-D39ECBE70388@illinois.edu> References: <7D39A6AC-5E71-438E-B770-0D89136D2DE1@illinois.edu> <016AA1A7-2EE3-42B1-A60A-6A38D0A813F6@illinois.edu> <5ACB3952-EE33-49F6-8D32-D39ECBE70388@illinois.edu> Message-ID: http://www.newslogue.com/debate/394/CaitlinJohnstone?referrer=emailNewArticle ...It is an established fact that America has been knowingly arming, funding and training terrorist factions in Syria, who are the only groups still fighting against the Assad government that the US establishment wants to overthrow. With her bipartisan Stop Arming Terrorists Act, [Rep. Tulsi] Gabbard [D-HI] is forcing American politicians to take a stand on this unforgivable behavior in front of the whole nation. ...Following Gabbard’s lead, outspoken non-interventionist Republican Rand Paul [R-KY] has now introduced the Senate version of this same Act, which means that if Gabbard decides to do what so many of us are screaming our lungs out for her to do and runs for president in 2020, she’ll likely be competing for the nomination with Democrats who‘ve voted against one of the two congressional bills. The legislation is expected to be met with resistance from the increasingly indistinguishable neocons and establishment Democrats, since it attacks longstanding policies backed by the Bush and Obama administrations, and by their military industrial complex donors and the plutocrats who benefit from America’s insane interventionist foreign policy… —CGE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deb.pdamerica at gmail.com Wed Mar 15 16:22:14 2017 From: deb.pdamerica at gmail.com (Debra Schrishuhn) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 11:22:14 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Gabbard, Rand Paul, and the Stop Arming Terrorists Act, In-Reply-To: References: <7D39A6AC-5E71-438E-B770-0D89136D2DE1@illinois.edu> <016AA1A7-2EE3-42B1-A60A-6A38D0A813F6@illinois.edu> <5ACB3952-EE33-49F6-8D32-D39ECBE70388@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <4BF66BD1-9650-4220-AC37-82A31A26A41F@gmail.com> I would love to see Tulsi run in 2020. She is one gutsy lady! Deb Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2017, at 9:28 AM, "Carl G. Estabrook via Peace" wrote: > > http://www.newslogue.com/debate/394/CaitlinJohnstone?referrer=emailNewArticle > > ...It is an established fact that America has been knowingly arming, funding and training terrorist factions in Syria, who are the only groups still fighting against the Assad government that the US establishment wants to overthrow. With her bipartisan Stop Arming Terrorists Act, [Rep. Tulsi] Gabbard [D-HI] is forcing American politicians to take a stand on this unforgivable behavior in front of the whole nation. > > ...Following Gabbard’s lead, outspoken non-interventionist Republican Rand Paul [R-KY] has now introduced the Senate version of this same Act, which means that if Gabbard decides to do what so many of us are screaming our lungs out for her to do and runs for president in 2020, she’ll likely be competing for the nomination with Democrats who‘ve voted against one of the two congressional bills. The legislation is expected to be met with resistance from the increasingly indistinguishable neocons and establishment Democrats, since it attacks longstanding policies backed by the Bush and Obama administrations, and by their military industrial complex donors and the plutocrats who benefit from America’s insane interventionist foreign policy… > > —CGE > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Mar 15 17:18:08 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 17:18:08 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Gabbard, Rand Paul, and the Stop Arming Terrorists Act, In-Reply-To: <4BF66BD1-9650-4220-AC37-82A31A26A41F@gmail.com> References: <7D39A6AC-5E71-438E-B770-0D89136D2DE1@illinois.edu> <016AA1A7-2EE3-42B1-A60A-6A38D0A813F6@illinois.edu> <5ACB3952-EE33-49F6-8D32-D39ECBE70388@illinois.edu> <4BF66BD1-9650-4220-AC37-82A31A26A41F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, Tulsi is gutsy, and she is providing the truth in respect to Syria, but she appears almost “too good to be true”, and we need to always beware of that which is too good to be true. If Tulsi does run for President in 2020, she’ll probably run as a Democrat, another female to take on the glass ceiling, as did Hillary, only Hillary was a warmonger, and just not young or refreshing. Tulsi is young, former military, and a woman of color being 1/4 Samoan, and a Hindu, what’s there not to like? The foreign policy issues that Bernie, who produced truth in relation to domestic issues, would not. Just having another Democrat in the White House will produce no more change or progress than we’ve had under Obama or Trump. Just a continued march to oblivion, which is why we need to build an alternative to the two party system which is owned by the same military/industrial complex known now as the “Deep State” or “Shadow Government.” On Mar 15, 2017, at 09:22, Debra Schrishuhn via Peace > wrote: I would love to see Tulsi run in 2020. She is one gutsy lady! Deb Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2017, at 9:28 AM, "Carl G. Estabrook via Peace" > wrote: http://www.newslogue.com/debate/394/CaitlinJohnstone?referrer=emailNewArticle ...It is an established fact that America has been knowingly arming, funding and training terrorist factions in Syria, who are the only groups still fighting against the Assad government that the US establishment wants to overthrow. With her bipartisan Stop Arming Terrorists Act, [Rep. Tulsi] Gabbard [D-HI] is forcing American politicians to take a stand on this unforgivable behavior in front of the whole nation. ...Following Gabbard’s lead, outspoken non-interventionist Republican Rand Paul [R-KY] has now introduced the Senate version of this same Act, which means that if Gabbard decides to do what so many of us are screaming our lungs out for her to do and runs for president in 2020, she’ll likely be competing for the nomination with Democrats who‘ve voted against one of the two congressional bills. The legislation is expected to be met with resistance from the increasingly indistinguishable neocons and establishment Democrats, since it attacks longstanding policies backed by the Bush and Obama administrations, and by their military industrial complex donors and the plutocrats who benefit from America’s insane interventionist foreign policy… —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Mar 15 19:19:07 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:19:07 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] TRUTH ABOUT SYRIA , two years ago from a highly credible German journalist, look him up if you doubt. Message-ID: Jürgen Todenhöfer Auf der Suche nach der Wahrheit Skip to content * Home * Biography * English * Deutsch Search for: US SECRET SERVICE UNCOVERS: THE WEST WANTED AN ISLAMIC TERROR STATE 28.05.2015Deutschland, Islam, Terrorism/War, WorldJulia Dear friends, according to the US secret service, DIA, the Obama administration has known as early as August 2012 that Al Qaeda /AQI, IS, ISIS) and other extremists were heading the Syrian rebellion. As a result, the “possibility that a Salafist principality in Eastern Syria“ would be established increased. In fact, that’s exactly what the West and its allies wanted in the Gulf region in order to cut off the Syrian regime from the Shiite Iraq and Iran. “Consequently, ISIS could declare an „Islamic State“ through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria.” Boom! This detailed and merciless secret report of the Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) was published following a US court order from a week ago. Also, this exact report had previously been submitted to the National Security Council, the chairman of which is called Barack Obama. He regularly gets informed about secret service insights. The contents of the said secret document is prone to leave readers speechless. It reveals a Nobel Peace Prize Laureate to actually be an instigator of terror and shows how the West sides with international terrorists. Both of them have been deliberately promoting international terrorism – particularly ISIS! That’s the bitter reality. The document is a sensation and a political scandal – let’s call it a “terrorist Watergate”. Obama and the West knew early on who was really fighting in Syria and how much of a terrorist threat their politics created for the world. While they were telling the world the usual lies of them fending for freedom, democracy and human rights, they were actually actively (and purposefully) supporting terrorist organizations. Not only did they not care at all about a possible Salafist terror state in Eastern Syria; they actually wanted it. Additionally, they deliberately accepted that ISIS would be able to establish an Islamic terror state including parts of Iraq. The DIA report was very clear on this point. That’s why the USA aren’t currently planning to entirely eliminate the „Islamic State“. Even if they knew how. They still need ISIS, as Iran would otherwise grow too strong. Hence, they are fighting halfheartedly. Let’s bet that the Western politicians and main stream media will do everything to downplay or hide these perversions of official, Western anti-terror politics? The DIA analysis stands for an adventurous and, unfortunately, criminal strategy. Obama and the West – uncovered to be promoters of terror by the US secret services. That’s hard to digest. Yours, JT HERE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT EXCERPTS FROM THE DIA ANALYSIS FROM AUGUST 12, 2012. Published by Judicial Watch on 05/18/2015. “THE GENERALSITUATION [IN SYRIA]: Events are taking a clear sectarian direction. The Salafist, the Muslim Brotherhood and AQI are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria. The West, the Gulf States, and Turkey support the opposition; while Russua, China, and Iran support the regime. AQI supported the Syrian opposition from the beginning [!], both ideologically and through the media. And it conducted a number of [military] operations in several Syrian cities under the name of Jaish Al Nusra [sic]. THE FUTURE ASSUMPTIONS OF THE CRISIS: The regime will survive and continue having control over Syrian territory. The current events will develop into a proxy war: with support from Russia, China and Iran, the regime is controlling [its] areas of influence along coastal territories (Tartus and Latakia), and is defending Homs. On the other hand, opposition forces are trying to control the Eastern areas (Hasaka and Deir ez-Zor), adjacent to the Western Iraqi provinces (Mosul and Anbar), in addition to neighboring Turkish borders. Western countries, the Gulf States and Turkey are supporting these efforts. THE EFFECTS ON IRAQ: If the situation unravels there is the possibility of ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA, AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS OF THE OPPOSITION WANT. They want to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (in Iraq and Iran). This creates the ideal atmosphere for „Al Qaeda in Iraq“ (AQI) to return to its old pockets in Mosul and Ramadi, and will provide a renewed momentum under the presumption of unifying the Jihad among Sunni Iraq and Syria, and the rest of the Sunnis in the Arab world against the “dissenters” – that it considers the enemy. ISIS could also declare an Islamic State through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria… The renewing facilitation of terrorist elements from all over the Arab world entering into the Iraqi arena.” [The following text is still being kept secret] HERE’S THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT: http://www.judicialwatch.org/…/Pg.-291-Pgs.-287-293-JW-v-DunO… AND THIS IS HOW JUDICIAL WATCH, WHICH HAD FILED A LAWSUIT TO GET THE DOCUMENT PUBLISHED INTERPRETED ITS CONTENTS: “Another DIA report, written in August 2012 (the same time period the U.S. was monitoring weapons flows from Libya to Syria), said that the opposition in Syria was driven by al Qaeda and other extremist Muslim groups: “the Salafist, the Muslim Brotherhood, and AQI are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria.” The growing sectarian direction of the war was predicted to have dire consequences for Iraq, which included the “grave danger” of the rise of ISIS: The deterioration of the situation has dire consequences on the Iraqi situation and are as follows: This creates the ideal atmosphere for AQI [al Qaeda Iraq] to return to its old pockets in Mosul and Ramadi, and will provide a renewed momentum under the presumption of unifying the jihad among Sunni Iraq and Syria, and the rest of the Sunnis in the Arab world against what it considers one enemy, the dissenters. ISI could also declare an Islamic state through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria, which will create grave danger in regards to unifying Iraq and the protection of its territory. Some of the “dire consequences” are blacked out but the DIA presciently warned one such consequence would be the “renewing facilitation of terrorist elements from all over the Arab world entering into Iraqi Arena.” Das könnte dich auch interessieren: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Mar 15 19:19:07 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:19:07 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] TRUTH ABOUT SYRIA , two years ago from a highly credible German journalist, look him up if you doubt. Message-ID: Jürgen Todenhöfer Auf der Suche nach der Wahrheit Skip to content * Home * Biography * English * Deutsch Search for: US SECRET SERVICE UNCOVERS: THE WEST WANTED AN ISLAMIC TERROR STATE 28.05.2015Deutschland, Islam, Terrorism/War, WorldJulia Dear friends, according to the US secret service, DIA, the Obama administration has known as early as August 2012 that Al Qaeda /AQI, IS, ISIS) and other extremists were heading the Syrian rebellion. As a result, the “possibility that a Salafist principality in Eastern Syria“ would be established increased. In fact, that’s exactly what the West and its allies wanted in the Gulf region in order to cut off the Syrian regime from the Shiite Iraq and Iran. “Consequently, ISIS could declare an „Islamic State“ through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria.” Boom! This detailed and merciless secret report of the Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) was published following a US court order from a week ago. Also, this exact report had previously been submitted to the National Security Council, the chairman of which is called Barack Obama. He regularly gets informed about secret service insights. The contents of the said secret document is prone to leave readers speechless. It reveals a Nobel Peace Prize Laureate to actually be an instigator of terror and shows how the West sides with international terrorists. Both of them have been deliberately promoting international terrorism – particularly ISIS! That’s the bitter reality. The document is a sensation and a political scandal – let’s call it a “terrorist Watergate”. Obama and the West knew early on who was really fighting in Syria and how much of a terrorist threat their politics created for the world. While they were telling the world the usual lies of them fending for freedom, democracy and human rights, they were actually actively (and purposefully) supporting terrorist organizations. Not only did they not care at all about a possible Salafist terror state in Eastern Syria; they actually wanted it. Additionally, they deliberately accepted that ISIS would be able to establish an Islamic terror state including parts of Iraq. The DIA report was very clear on this point. That’s why the USA aren’t currently planning to entirely eliminate the „Islamic State“. Even if they knew how. They still need ISIS, as Iran would otherwise grow too strong. Hence, they are fighting halfheartedly. Let’s bet that the Western politicians and main stream media will do everything to downplay or hide these perversions of official, Western anti-terror politics? The DIA analysis stands for an adventurous and, unfortunately, criminal strategy. Obama and the West – uncovered to be promoters of terror by the US secret services. That’s hard to digest. Yours, JT HERE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT EXCERPTS FROM THE DIA ANALYSIS FROM AUGUST 12, 2012. Published by Judicial Watch on 05/18/2015. “THE GENERALSITUATION [IN SYRIA]: Events are taking a clear sectarian direction. The Salafist, the Muslim Brotherhood and AQI are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria. The West, the Gulf States, and Turkey support the opposition; while Russua, China, and Iran support the regime. AQI supported the Syrian opposition from the beginning [!], both ideologically and through the media. And it conducted a number of [military] operations in several Syrian cities under the name of Jaish Al Nusra [sic]. THE FUTURE ASSUMPTIONS OF THE CRISIS: The regime will survive and continue having control over Syrian territory. The current events will develop into a proxy war: with support from Russia, China and Iran, the regime is controlling [its] areas of influence along coastal territories (Tartus and Latakia), and is defending Homs. On the other hand, opposition forces are trying to control the Eastern areas (Hasaka and Deir ez-Zor), adjacent to the Western Iraqi provinces (Mosul and Anbar), in addition to neighboring Turkish borders. Western countries, the Gulf States and Turkey are supporting these efforts. THE EFFECTS ON IRAQ: If the situation unravels there is the possibility of ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA, AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS OF THE OPPOSITION WANT. They want to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (in Iraq and Iran). This creates the ideal atmosphere for „Al Qaeda in Iraq“ (AQI) to return to its old pockets in Mosul and Ramadi, and will provide a renewed momentum under the presumption of unifying the Jihad among Sunni Iraq and Syria, and the rest of the Sunnis in the Arab world against the “dissenters” – that it considers the enemy. ISIS could also declare an Islamic State through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria… The renewing facilitation of terrorist elements from all over the Arab world entering into the Iraqi arena.” [The following text is still being kept secret] HERE’S THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT: http://www.judicialwatch.org/…/Pg.-291-Pgs.-287-293-JW-v-DunO… AND THIS IS HOW JUDICIAL WATCH, WHICH HAD FILED A LAWSUIT TO GET THE DOCUMENT PUBLISHED INTERPRETED ITS CONTENTS: “Another DIA report, written in August 2012 (the same time period the U.S. was monitoring weapons flows from Libya to Syria), said that the opposition in Syria was driven by al Qaeda and other extremist Muslim groups: “the Salafist, the Muslim Brotherhood, and AQI are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria.” The growing sectarian direction of the war was predicted to have dire consequences for Iraq, which included the “grave danger” of the rise of ISIS: The deterioration of the situation has dire consequences on the Iraqi situation and are as follows: This creates the ideal atmosphere for AQI [al Qaeda Iraq] to return to its old pockets in Mosul and Ramadi, and will provide a renewed momentum under the presumption of unifying the jihad among Sunni Iraq and Syria, and the rest of the Sunnis in the Arab world against what it considers one enemy, the dissenters. ISI could also declare an Islamic state through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria, which will create grave danger in regards to unifying Iraq and the protection of its territory. Some of the “dire consequences” are blacked out but the DIA presciently warned one such consequence would be the “renewing facilitation of terrorist elements from all over the Arab world entering into Iraqi Arena.” Das könnte dich auch interessieren: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 15 20:41:29 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 20:41:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Gabbard, Rand Paul, and the Stop Arming Terrorists Act, In-Reply-To: References: <7D39A6AC-5E71-438E-B770-0D89136D2DE1@illinois.edu> <016AA1A7-2EE3-42B1-A60A-6A38D0A813F6@illinois.edu> <5ACB3952-EE33-49F6-8D32-D39ECBE70388@illinois.edu> <4BF66BD1-9650-4220-AC37-82A31A26A41F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <344188853.1266485.1489610489456@mail.yahoo.com> Gabbard's negatives include Israel/Palestine and India/BJP; but the question remains whether any Democrat can challenge established structures, and whether her genuinely decent views will be viewed by herself and others as a political bargaining chip, to be compromised away in the pursuit of power. DG On Wednesday, March 15, 2017 12:18 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: Yes, Tulsi is gutsy, and she is providing the truth in respect to Syria, but she appears almost “too good to be true”, and we need to always beware of that which is too good to be true. If Tulsi does run for President in 2020, she’ll probably run as a Democrat, another female to take on the glass ceiling, as did Hillary, only Hillary was a warmonger, and just not young or refreshing. Tulsi is young, former military, and a woman of color being 1/4 Samoan, and a Hindu, what’s there not to like? The foreign policy issues that Bernie, who produced truth in relation to domestic issues, would not.  Just having another Democrat in the White House will produce no more change or progress than we’ve had under Obama or Trump. Just a continued march to oblivion, which is why we need to build an alternative to the two party system which is owned by the same military/industrial complex known now as the “Deep State” or “Shadow Government.” On Mar 15, 2017, at 09:22, Debra Schrishuhn via Peace wrote: I would love to see Tulsi run in 2020. She is one gutsy lady!Deb Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2017, at 9:28 AM, "Carl G. Estabrook via Peace" wrote: http://www.newslogue.com/debate/394/CaitlinJohnstone?referrer=emailNewArticle ...It is an established fact that America has been knowingly arming, funding and training terrorist factions in Syria, who are the only groups still fighting against the Assad government that the US establishment wants to overthrow. With her bipartisan Stop Arming Terrorists Act, [Rep. Tulsi] Gabbard [D-HI] is forcing American politicians to take a stand on this unforgivable behavior in front of the whole nation. ...Following Gabbard’s lead, outspoken non-interventionist Republican Rand Paul [R-KY] has now introduced the Senate version of this same Act, which means that if Gabbard decides to do what so many of us are screaming our lungs out for her to do and runs for president in 2020, she’ll likely be competing for the nomination with Democrats who‘ve voted against one of the two congressional bills. The legislation is expected to be met with resistance from the increasingly indistinguishable neocons and establishment Democrats, since it attacks longstanding policies backed by the Bush and Obama administrations, and by their military industrial complex donors and the plutocrats who benefit from America’s insane interventionist foreign policy… —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 16 02:54:06 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 02:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] The Empire is Here to Stay References: <1404583610.1499693.1489632846296.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1404583610.1499693.1489632846296@mail.yahoo.com> Despite these concerns, officials have been willing to give Trump a chance to lead the country. Over the past few months, state leaders have done everything in their power to prepare Trump for his new position.Notably, Obama played a lead role in welcoming Trump to Washington. Just days after the election, he complimented the president-elect on his willingness to cross the ideological divide. “I don’t think he is ideological,” the outgoing president said. “I think ultimately he’s pragmatic in that way. And that can serve him well, as long as he’s got good people around him and he has a clear sense of direction.”In the following weeks, Obama also requested that people around the world give Trump a chance. People should not “just assume the worst,” Obama said. It would be better to “take a wait-and-see approach,” and allow Trump the opportunity to run the country.Politicians, Obama stressed, often make promises that they don’t keep. “My simple point is that you can’t assume that the language of campaigning matches up with the specifics of governing, legislation, regulations, and foreign policy,” Obama said. He continued: “I can’t guarantee that the president-elect won’t pursue some of the positions that he’s taken. But what I can guarantee is, is that reality will force him to adjust how he approaches many of these issues. That’s just the way this office works.”Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter provided similar reassurances. “America’s interests remain the same,” he insisted. “So, we still have ISIL to fight, we still have Russia — that isn’t gonna change, the world isn’t gonna — isn’t gonna change.”Establishment officials have also been willing to accept the new leadership and look for silver linings in Trump’s cabinet. For instance, they were pleased that Trump chose Gen. Mattis to be the next secretary of defense. Mattis is “a friend, and I hold him in the highest regard,” Carter commented shortly after the nomination’s announcement.Trump’s secretary of state pick, Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson, was also met with applause. The man is “superbly qualified,” former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates promised. “He is deeply knowledgeable about the international scene and geopolitics and importantly would be an informed and independent adviser to the president.”So far, a number of Trump’s establishment critics have found continuity in the new administration’s foreign policy. Early last month, Obama’s former advisor David Axelrod tweeted that a number of the Trump administration’s earliest moves bore striking resemblance to Obama’s policies: “Much of what @realDonaldTrump admin has done in foreign policy in the past 36 hours is Obama policy, just delivered thru clenched teeth.”The New York Times has also begun to moderate its tone. Since early February 2017, new headlines have included: “Trump Embraces Pillars of Obama’s Foreign Policy,” “Trump Foreign Policy Quickly Loses Its Sharp Edge,” and “From ‘America First’ to a More Conventional View of U.S. Diplomacy.”In short, the establishment, at least for now, seems confident that it can continue having its way with the world. Despite all of the post-election quaking about Trump, which was greased by the ongoing concerns about Russia, China, and ISIS, establishment officials and their supporters seem to believe that Trump is starting to understand what they mean when they say that the United States is indispensable to the world order. As always, they are speaking the words of empire, and they are determined to keep it.“I know some people are looking at the world and saying, ‘Oh my God, the world order is coming apart,’ and this and that,” Secretary of State John Kerry commented during his final days in office. “No, it isn’t, folks. And it won’t.”The empire, in other words, is here to stay. The American Empire Isn’t in Decline | | | | | | | | | | | The American Empire Isn’t in Decline The foreign policy establishment remains confident it can steer the US into a new age of global hegemony. | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r-szoke at illinois.edu Thu Mar 16 03:06:44 2017 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 03:06:44 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Trump Admin Ups Drone Strikes, Tolerates More Civilian Deaths Message-ID: >From NBCNews.com... Trump Admin Ups Drone Strikes, Tolerates More Civilian Deaths: U.S. Officials http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-admin-ups-drone-strikes-tolerates-more-civilian-deaths-n733336?cid=eml_onsite From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Mar 16 14:09:54 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:09:54 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Famine and it is a result of war Message-ID: [Logo for dark background] Independent Global NewsAboutDaily DigestEventsStationsEspañol * Daily Shows [Chevron down] * Top Stories [Chevron down] * Web Exclusives [Chevron down] * Topics * Columns [Search] DONATE HOT TOPICS * Donald Trump * Immigration * Trump's Cabinet * Steve Bannon * Israel & Palestine * Dakota Access Pipeline * Syria * Women's March on Washington * Climate Change * Clemency Aid Worker Decries U.S.-Backed "Relentless War" in Yemen Causing Widespread Threat of Starvation STORYMARCH 15, 2017 [Watch icon]WATCH FULL SHOW * * * 1,046 Shares This is viewer supported news. Please do your part today. DONATE TOPICS * United Nations * Yemen * Saudi Arabia ________________________________ GUESTS Joel Charny director of the Norwegian Refugee Council USA. The United Nations has warned that the world is facing its largest humanitarian crisis since the end of the Second World War. Nearly 20 million people are at risk of starvation in Nigeria, Somalia, South Sudan and Yemen. Last month, the U.N. declared a famine in parts of South Sudan. Earlier this week, aid officials said they’re in a race against time to prevent a famine brought on by a U.S.-backed, Saudi-led war and blockade. Almost 19 million people in Yemen, two-thirds of the total population, are in need of assistance, and more than 7 million are facing starvation. For more, we speak with Joel Charny, director of the Norwegian Refugee Council USA. ________________________________ TRANSCRIPT This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form. AMY GOODMAN: The United Nations has warned that the world is facing its largest humanitarian crisis since the end of the Second World War, with nearly 20 million people at risk of starvation in Nigeria, Somalia, South Sudan and Yemen. The U.N.'s humanitarian chief, Stephen O'Brien, told the U.N. Security Council Friday that $4.4 billion is needed by July to avert a famine. STEPHEN O’BRIEN: We stand at a critical point in our history. Already at the beginning of the year, we are facing the largest humanitarian crisis since the creation of the United Nations. Now, more than 20 million people across four countries face starvation and famine. Without collective and coordinated global efforts, people will simply starve to death. ... All four countries have one thing in common: conflict. This means that we, you, have the possibility to prevent and end further misery and suffering. The U.N. and its partners are ready to scale up, but we need the access and the funds to do more. It is all preventable. It is possible to avert this crisis, to avert these famines, to avert these looming human catastrophes. AMY GOODMAN: Last month, the U.N. declared a famine in parts of South Sudan, but O’Brien said the biggest crisis is in Yemen. Earlier this week, aid officials said they’re in a race against time to prevent a famine brought on by a U.S.-backed, Saudi-led war and blockade. Almost 19 million people in Yemen, two-thirds of the total population, are in need of assistance, and more than 7 million are facing starvation—an increase of 3 million since January. The executive director of the World Food Programme said her agency had just three months’ worth of food stored and that officials were only able to provide hungry Yemenis with about a third of the rations they need. This all comes as the Trump administration is seeking billions of dollars in cuts in funding to the United Nations. To talk more about the crisis, we’re joined by Joel Charny, director of the Norwegian Refugee Council USA. Joel, thanks so much for joining us. Can you talk about this worst humanitarian crisis since World War II? JOEL CHARNY: Well, Stephen O’Brien described it very well. In four countries, because of conflict—only in one case, Somalia, do we have drought, which is also driving the deprivation. But in Yemen, Somalia, South Sudan and northern Nigeria, millions of people are on the—are on the brink of famine, largely because of the disruption of food production, the inability of aid agencies to get in, and just ongoing conflict, which is making life a misery for millions of people. AMY GOODMAN: So let’s start with Yemen, Joel. I mean, you have the picture of President Trump yesterday sitting with the Saudi leader in the White House. The war that’s taking place in Yemen, the Saudi bombing, backed by the United States, can you talk about the effect this has had on the population? JOEL CHARNY: It’s been a relentless war, with violations of international humanitarian law by the Saudis and the coalition that they’re a part of, as well as by the Houthis that are resisting the Saudi assault. And from the beginning of the bombing—I mean, I vividly remember, when the bombing first started, in—within the space of a couple weeks, the warehouses and office buildings of three or four nongovernmental organizations working in Yemen were hit by the Saudi assault. And what’s happened, Yemen imports 90 percent of its food even in normal times, so this is not so much a disruption of food production, but it’s a disruption of commerce due to the bombing, due to the blockade, due to the movement of the national bank from Sana’a down to Aden. And taken all together, it’s just creating an impossible situation in a country that’s completely dependent on food imports for its survival. AMY GOODMAN: On Monday, the World Food Programme said they’re in a race against time to prevent a famine in Yemen. This is the executive director, Ertharin Cousin, who just returned from Yemen. ERTHARIN COUSIN: We have about three months of food stored inside the country today. We also have food that’s on the water on the way there. But we don’t have enough food to support the scale-up that is required to ensure that we can avoid a famine. What we’ve been doing is taking the limited amounts of food that we have in the country and spreading it to as far as possible, which means that we’ve been giving 35 percent rations in most months. We need to go to 100 percent rations. AMY GOODMAN: So, the U.S. is supplying weapons for the Saudi campaign, the war campaign, in Yemen. The strikes have increased. What do you think needs to happen to save the people of Yemen at this point? JOEL CHARNY: At this point, really the only solution is some kind of agreement between the parties to the conflict—the Saudis and their allies and the Houthis. And over the last year, 18 months, several times we’ve been close to seeing an agreement that would at least produce a ceasefire or end some of the relentless bombing that’s been going on. Yet, every time, the agreement breaks down. And, I mean, this is a case where if the war continues, people will die from famine. I don’t think there’s any question about that. We just have to find a way for the war to end. And right now, there’s just a complete lack of diplomatic effort to try and solve this situation. And I think, as a humanitarian representing the Norwegian Refugee Council, we can do what we can, you know, in the face of this conflict, but the fundamental solution is an agreement between the parties that will stop the war, open up commerce, you know, have the port be open, and allow, therefore, the aid machinery from the World Food Programme and nongovernmental organizations like NRC to function. AMY GOODMAN: I mean, this is not the U.S. intervening and trying to broker an agreement between others. This is the U.S. directly involved in causing this conflict. JOEL CHARNY: And, Amy, it needs to be stressed that this is not something that, you know, started on January 20th. Humanitarian agencies in Washington, you know, myself and my colleagues, we’ve been pointing out, dating back well into the last year of the Obama administration, that, you know, the bombing campaign was leading to an untenable humanitarian situation, and the U.S. support of that bombing campaign was highly problematic from a humanitarian standpoint. So, you know, this is something that the U.S. has been driving for some time. And again, as with many things right now, it has to be seen within the context of the war or the proxy war between, you know, the Saudis and Iran for control and supremacy in the Middle East. The Houthis are perceived as an Iranian proxy. Many dispute that, but that doesn’t change the fact that there is an ongoing war that seems unable to be resolved. And we need—and again, it doesn’t necessarily have to come from the U.S. Perhaps it can come from the U.N. under the leadership of their new secretary-general, António Guterres. 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DONATE TOPICS * United Nations * Yemen * Saudi Arabia ________________________________ GUESTS Joel Charny director of the Norwegian Refugee Council USA. The United Nations has warned that the world is facing its largest humanitarian crisis since the end of the Second World War. Nearly 20 million people are at risk of starvation in Nigeria, Somalia, South Sudan and Yemen. Last month, the U.N. declared a famine in parts of South Sudan. Earlier this week, aid officials said they’re in a race against time to prevent a famine brought on by a U.S.-backed, Saudi-led war and blockade. Almost 19 million people in Yemen, two-thirds of the total population, are in need of assistance, and more than 7 million are facing starvation. For more, we speak with Joel Charny, director of the Norwegian Refugee Council USA. ________________________________ TRANSCRIPT This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form. AMY GOODMAN: The United Nations has warned that the world is facing its largest humanitarian crisis since the end of the Second World War, with nearly 20 million people at risk of starvation in Nigeria, Somalia, South Sudan and Yemen. The U.N.'s humanitarian chief, Stephen O'Brien, told the U.N. Security Council Friday that $4.4 billion is needed by July to avert a famine. STEPHEN O’BRIEN: We stand at a critical point in our history. Already at the beginning of the year, we are facing the largest humanitarian crisis since the creation of the United Nations. Now, more than 20 million people across four countries face starvation and famine. Without collective and coordinated global efforts, people will simply starve to death. ... All four countries have one thing in common: conflict. This means that we, you, have the possibility to prevent and end further misery and suffering. The U.N. and its partners are ready to scale up, but we need the access and the funds to do more. It is all preventable. It is possible to avert this crisis, to avert these famines, to avert these looming human catastrophes. AMY GOODMAN: Last month, the U.N. declared a famine in parts of South Sudan, but O’Brien said the biggest crisis is in Yemen. Earlier this week, aid officials said they’re in a race against time to prevent a famine brought on by a U.S.-backed, Saudi-led war and blockade. Almost 19 million people in Yemen, two-thirds of the total population, are in need of assistance, and more than 7 million are facing starvation—an increase of 3 million since January. The executive director of the World Food Programme said her agency had just three months’ worth of food stored and that officials were only able to provide hungry Yemenis with about a third of the rations they need. This all comes as the Trump administration is seeking billions of dollars in cuts in funding to the United Nations. To talk more about the crisis, we’re joined by Joel Charny, director of the Norwegian Refugee Council USA. Joel, thanks so much for joining us. Can you talk about this worst humanitarian crisis since World War II? JOEL CHARNY: Well, Stephen O’Brien described it very well. In four countries, because of conflict—only in one case, Somalia, do we have drought, which is also driving the deprivation. But in Yemen, Somalia, South Sudan and northern Nigeria, millions of people are on the—are on the brink of famine, largely because of the disruption of food production, the inability of aid agencies to get in, and just ongoing conflict, which is making life a misery for millions of people. AMY GOODMAN: So let’s start with Yemen, Joel. I mean, you have the picture of President Trump yesterday sitting with the Saudi leader in the White House. The war that’s taking place in Yemen, the Saudi bombing, backed by the United States, can you talk about the effect this has had on the population? JOEL CHARNY: It’s been a relentless war, with violations of international humanitarian law by the Saudis and the coalition that they’re a part of, as well as by the Houthis that are resisting the Saudi assault. And from the beginning of the bombing—I mean, I vividly remember, when the bombing first started, in—within the space of a couple weeks, the warehouses and office buildings of three or four nongovernmental organizations working in Yemen were hit by the Saudi assault. And what’s happened, Yemen imports 90 percent of its food even in normal times, so this is not so much a disruption of food production, but it’s a disruption of commerce due to the bombing, due to the blockade, due to the movement of the national bank from Sana’a down to Aden. And taken all together, it’s just creating an impossible situation in a country that’s completely dependent on food imports for its survival. AMY GOODMAN: On Monday, the World Food Programme said they’re in a race against time to prevent a famine in Yemen. This is the executive director, Ertharin Cousin, who just returned from Yemen. ERTHARIN COUSIN: We have about three months of food stored inside the country today. We also have food that’s on the water on the way there. But we don’t have enough food to support the scale-up that is required to ensure that we can avoid a famine. What we’ve been doing is taking the limited amounts of food that we have in the country and spreading it to as far as possible, which means that we’ve been giving 35 percent rations in most months. We need to go to 100 percent rations. AMY GOODMAN: So, the U.S. is supplying weapons for the Saudi campaign, the war campaign, in Yemen. The strikes have increased. What do you think needs to happen to save the people of Yemen at this point? JOEL CHARNY: At this point, really the only solution is some kind of agreement between the parties to the conflict—the Saudis and their allies and the Houthis. And over the last year, 18 months, several times we’ve been close to seeing an agreement that would at least produce a ceasefire or end some of the relentless bombing that’s been going on. Yet, every time, the agreement breaks down. And, I mean, this is a case where if the war continues, people will die from famine. I don’t think there’s any question about that. We just have to find a way for the war to end. And right now, there’s just a complete lack of diplomatic effort to try and solve this situation. And I think, as a humanitarian representing the Norwegian Refugee Council, we can do what we can, you know, in the face of this conflict, but the fundamental solution is an agreement between the parties that will stop the war, open up commerce, you know, have the port be open, and allow, therefore, the aid machinery from the World Food Programme and nongovernmental organizations like NRC to function. AMY GOODMAN: I mean, this is not the U.S. intervening and trying to broker an agreement between others. This is the U.S. directly involved in causing this conflict. JOEL CHARNY: And, Amy, it needs to be stressed that this is not something that, you know, started on January 20th. Humanitarian agencies in Washington, you know, myself and my colleagues, we’ve been pointing out, dating back well into the last year of the Obama administration, that, you know, the bombing campaign was leading to an untenable humanitarian situation, and the U.S. support of that bombing campaign was highly problematic from a humanitarian standpoint. So, you know, this is something that the U.S. has been driving for some time. And again, as with many things right now, it has to be seen within the context of the war or the proxy war between, you know, the Saudis and Iran for control and supremacy in the Middle East. The Houthis are perceived as an Iranian proxy. Many dispute that, but that doesn’t change the fact that there is an ongoing war that seems unable to be resolved. And we need—and again, it doesn’t necessarily have to come from the U.S. Perhaps it can come from the U.N. under the leadership of their new secretary-general, António Guterres. But we need a diplomatic initiative as it relates to Yemen to avert the famine. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Mar 16 14:26:02 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:26:02 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Budget cuts by the Trump Administration to the UN, even though we are facing the worst humanitarian crisis. Message-ID: 4,858 Shares This is viewer supported news. Please do your part today. DONATE TOPICS * United Nations * Refugees * Famine * Yemen * Somalia * Nigeria ________________________________ GUESTS Joel Charny director of the Norwegian Refugee Council USA. The Trump administration is seeking billions of dollars in cuts in funding to the United Nations, even as the United Nations warns that the world is facing its largest humanitarian crisis since the end of the Second World War, and seeks $4.4 billion in additional funding by July to avert famine in Yemen, Somalia, Nigeria and South Sudan. For more, we speak with Joel Charny, director of the Norwegian Refugee Council USA. ________________________________ TRANSCRIPT This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form. AMY GOODMAN: I want to ask about the U.S. threats to cut billions of dollars in funding to the United Nations. Can you talk about the effect of this? And what is President Trump saying? JOEL CHARNY: Well, at this—the budget will come out tomorrow, but the report is that there will be a 50 percent cut across the board in Trump’s budget for 2018. Now, the U.S. is a very significant supporter of the humanitarian arms of the United Nations, as well as the U.N. across the board. But in the context of 20 million people being on the brink of famine, you’re proposing to cut funding for the high commissioner for refugees, the U.N. refugee agency; for the World Food Programmme, that Ertharin Cousin represents; and for UNICEF. And those three agencies are, on the U.N.'s behalf, on the front line of responding to the situations that we're talking about. So, to call this ill-timed is an incredible understatement. I mean, to—and the other rumor, Amy, is that, you know, there are going to be devastating cuts to the U.S.'s own humanitarian funding through agencies like the Office of Foreign Disaster Assistance and the refugee bureau at the State Department. So, we're anxiously awaiting the release of the Trump budget tomorrow, but it—we’re obviously quite concerned that, in the context of the massive need that we’re facing and the normal U.S. leadership that we see in responding to famine situations, these cuts, not just for the U.N. but also for domestic—you know, for our international response agencies in the U.S. government, will be devastating. AMY GOODMAN: I wanted to turn to the new U.N. secretary-general you referenced, Joel, António Guterres, recently calling on greater international financial support. SECRETARY-GENERAL ANTÓNIO GUTERRES: One of the biggest obstacles we face now is funding. Humanitarian operations in these four countries require more than $5.6 billion this year. And we need at least $4.4 billion by the end of March to avert a catastrophe. Despite some generous pledges, just $90 million has actually been received so far—around two cents for every dollar needed. We are in the beginning of the year, but these numbers are very worrying. Funding shortages have already forced the World Food Programme to cut rations in Yemen by more than half since last year. And without new resources, critical shortages will worsen—will worsen within months. AMY GOODMAN: That’s António Guterres, the new U.N. attorney—the new U.N. secretary-general. I want to turn to a mother of nine children in South Sudan. SOUTH SUDANESE MOTHER: [translated] Currently, we have no food, and the entire family depends on water lily and date palm. AMY GOODMAN: Joel Charny, can you talk about South Sudan? JOEL CHARNY: South Sudan is a place where, you know, there was so much hope in 2011, when the country was founded, after years of support from around the world, including from the United States. And basically, the leaders of South Sudan decided that they would rather fight over ultimate control than govern their country in a way that worked for all their people. So, South Sudan is a classic example of another famine or food shortage that’s driven purely by conflict in this—with an ethnic dimension, but also a political dimension, unresolved political conflicts within the South Sudanese ruling class that date all the way back to the ’90s, that were covered up during the independence struggle but have since emerged. And again, in South Sudan, we face just immense logistical difficulties in reaching people, like the woman you just showed. And we have to overcome obstacles from the government itself. We have to overcome logistical difficulties. We have to make sure that we can work safely in the midst of conflict. And South Sudan has oil. South Sudan has relatively fertile soil to feed itself. And the issue is just the inability of the authorities, and working with the—with outside aid agencies, to come together to meet the needs of the people of South Sudan. And it is a desperate situation. Of the four—of the four countries that we’re discussing, South Sudan is the one place where a famine has officially been declared in one part of the country, affecting 100,000 people. AMY GOODMAN: And can you talk about Somalia and Nigeria, Joel Charny? JOEL CHARNY: Well, Somalia—I mean, Amy, I know I’m depressing your listeners, but, I mean, Somalia is the one place, I think, where a rapid response actually can make a difference, because the—although there is conflict in Somalia, the famine threat this time, the severe drought, is mainly in parts of the country that are reachable by the government, as weak as it is, and reachable by the international aid community. So if we’re able to mobilize quickly—and this is what everyone’s saying right now—if we’re able to mobilize food and cash quickly, we can—we can overcome the situation of Somalia, in Somalia, if we get—if we get moving. In Nigeria, it’s a question of—you know, Boko Haram is disrupting areas in the northern part of the country. There’s been a response by the Nigerian government that has, you know, led to people being driven into camps and away from their homes. And because of the conflict there, food production has been disrupted. It’s very difficult to reach people. And again, from the perspective of an outside agency like Norwegian Refugee Council, the key in northern Nigeria is either to reach some kind of peace agreement or at least a way to prosecute the war that doesn’t disrupt life in villages and doesn’t harm people who are so vulnerable. AMY GOODMAN: I wanted to end by going back to where we began: in Yemen. President Trump met with Saudi Arabia’s Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman at the White House Tuesday, during which the two reportedly discussed their opposition to the Iran nuclear deal. They also are expected to discuss U.S. arms sales to Saudi Arabia for this ongoing Saudi-led bombardment of Yemen, which has killed thousands. Amnesty International urged Trump to block the arms sales, writing, "Arming the Saudi Arabia and Bahrain governments risks complicity with war crimes, and doing so while simultaneously banning travel to the U.S. from Yemen would be even more unconscionable." Joel, tonight at midnight begins the—what they call what? The Muslim ban 2.0, when people from six countries, including Yemen, will not be allowed into the United States, unless it’s stopped in court. How does this go together with what you’re seeing right now in these places? JOEL CHARNY: Well, as people have pointed out, four of the six countries in the ban are currently in conflict, in which the U.S. is involved. And our view on the ban is very simple. The people in these countries and, indeed, refugees worldwide are among the most vulnerable in the world. They are vetted before they come to the United States. And it’s just an absolute priority, from our standpoint, that the U.S. remain open to the most vulnerable refugees and that we have an immigration program from these countries that allows people to reunify with their families, to study in the U.S. and so on. So, you know, this contrast between assaulting—you know, having wars going on, yet not being able to be a safe haven, is obviously a clear and worrying contrast. AMY GOODMAN: Joel Charny, I want to thank you for being with us, director of the Norwegian Refugee Council USA. And, of course, we’ll continue to cover the story. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Mar 16 14:26:02 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:26:02 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Budget cuts by the Trump Administration to the UN, even though we are facing the worst humanitarian crisis. Message-ID: 4,858 Shares This is viewer supported news. Please do your part today. DONATE TOPICS * United Nations * Refugees * Famine * Yemen * Somalia * Nigeria ________________________________ GUESTS Joel Charny director of the Norwegian Refugee Council USA. The Trump administration is seeking billions of dollars in cuts in funding to the United Nations, even as the United Nations warns that the world is facing its largest humanitarian crisis since the end of the Second World War, and seeks $4.4 billion in additional funding by July to avert famine in Yemen, Somalia, Nigeria and South Sudan. For more, we speak with Joel Charny, director of the Norwegian Refugee Council USA. ________________________________ TRANSCRIPT This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form. AMY GOODMAN: I want to ask about the U.S. threats to cut billions of dollars in funding to the United Nations. Can you talk about the effect of this? And what is President Trump saying? JOEL CHARNY: Well, at this—the budget will come out tomorrow, but the report is that there will be a 50 percent cut across the board in Trump’s budget for 2018. Now, the U.S. is a very significant supporter of the humanitarian arms of the United Nations, as well as the U.N. across the board. But in the context of 20 million people being on the brink of famine, you’re proposing to cut funding for the high commissioner for refugees, the U.N. refugee agency; for the World Food Programmme, that Ertharin Cousin represents; and for UNICEF. And those three agencies are, on the U.N.'s behalf, on the front line of responding to the situations that we're talking about. So, to call this ill-timed is an incredible understatement. I mean, to—and the other rumor, Amy, is that, you know, there are going to be devastating cuts to the U.S.'s own humanitarian funding through agencies like the Office of Foreign Disaster Assistance and the refugee bureau at the State Department. So, we're anxiously awaiting the release of the Trump budget tomorrow, but it—we’re obviously quite concerned that, in the context of the massive need that we’re facing and the normal U.S. leadership that we see in responding to famine situations, these cuts, not just for the U.N. but also for domestic—you know, for our international response agencies in the U.S. government, will be devastating. AMY GOODMAN: I wanted to turn to the new U.N. secretary-general you referenced, Joel, António Guterres, recently calling on greater international financial support. SECRETARY-GENERAL ANTÓNIO GUTERRES: One of the biggest obstacles we face now is funding. Humanitarian operations in these four countries require more than $5.6 billion this year. And we need at least $4.4 billion by the end of March to avert a catastrophe. Despite some generous pledges, just $90 million has actually been received so far—around two cents for every dollar needed. We are in the beginning of the year, but these numbers are very worrying. Funding shortages have already forced the World Food Programme to cut rations in Yemen by more than half since last year. And without new resources, critical shortages will worsen—will worsen within months. AMY GOODMAN: That’s António Guterres, the new U.N. attorney—the new U.N. secretary-general. I want to turn to a mother of nine children in South Sudan. SOUTH SUDANESE MOTHER: [translated] Currently, we have no food, and the entire family depends on water lily and date palm. AMY GOODMAN: Joel Charny, can you talk about South Sudan? JOEL CHARNY: South Sudan is a place where, you know, there was so much hope in 2011, when the country was founded, after years of support from around the world, including from the United States. And basically, the leaders of South Sudan decided that they would rather fight over ultimate control than govern their country in a way that worked for all their people. So, South Sudan is a classic example of another famine or food shortage that’s driven purely by conflict in this—with an ethnic dimension, but also a political dimension, unresolved political conflicts within the South Sudanese ruling class that date all the way back to the ’90s, that were covered up during the independence struggle but have since emerged. And again, in South Sudan, we face just immense logistical difficulties in reaching people, like the woman you just showed. And we have to overcome obstacles from the government itself. We have to overcome logistical difficulties. We have to make sure that we can work safely in the midst of conflict. And South Sudan has oil. South Sudan has relatively fertile soil to feed itself. And the issue is just the inability of the authorities, and working with the—with outside aid agencies, to come together to meet the needs of the people of South Sudan. And it is a desperate situation. Of the four—of the four countries that we’re discussing, South Sudan is the one place where a famine has officially been declared in one part of the country, affecting 100,000 people. AMY GOODMAN: And can you talk about Somalia and Nigeria, Joel Charny? JOEL CHARNY: Well, Somalia—I mean, Amy, I know I’m depressing your listeners, but, I mean, Somalia is the one place, I think, where a rapid response actually can make a difference, because the—although there is conflict in Somalia, the famine threat this time, the severe drought, is mainly in parts of the country that are reachable by the government, as weak as it is, and reachable by the international aid community. So if we’re able to mobilize quickly—and this is what everyone’s saying right now—if we’re able to mobilize food and cash quickly, we can—we can overcome the situation of Somalia, in Somalia, if we get—if we get moving. In Nigeria, it’s a question of—you know, Boko Haram is disrupting areas in the northern part of the country. There’s been a response by the Nigerian government that has, you know, led to people being driven into camps and away from their homes. And because of the conflict there, food production has been disrupted. It’s very difficult to reach people. And again, from the perspective of an outside agency like Norwegian Refugee Council, the key in northern Nigeria is either to reach some kind of peace agreement or at least a way to prosecute the war that doesn’t disrupt life in villages and doesn’t harm people who are so vulnerable. AMY GOODMAN: I wanted to end by going back to where we began: in Yemen. President Trump met with Saudi Arabia’s Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman at the White House Tuesday, during which the two reportedly discussed their opposition to the Iran nuclear deal. They also are expected to discuss U.S. arms sales to Saudi Arabia for this ongoing Saudi-led bombardment of Yemen, which has killed thousands. Amnesty International urged Trump to block the arms sales, writing, "Arming the Saudi Arabia and Bahrain governments risks complicity with war crimes, and doing so while simultaneously banning travel to the U.S. from Yemen would be even more unconscionable." Joel, tonight at midnight begins the—what they call what? The Muslim ban 2.0, when people from six countries, including Yemen, will not be allowed into the United States, unless it’s stopped in court. How does this go together with what you’re seeing right now in these places? JOEL CHARNY: Well, as people have pointed out, four of the six countries in the ban are currently in conflict, in which the U.S. is involved. And our view on the ban is very simple. The people in these countries and, indeed, refugees worldwide are among the most vulnerable in the world. They are vetted before they come to the United States. And it’s just an absolute priority, from our standpoint, that the U.S. remain open to the most vulnerable refugees and that we have an immigration program from these countries that allows people to reunify with their families, to study in the U.S. and so on. So, you know, this contrast between assaulting—you know, having wars going on, yet not being able to be a safe haven, is obviously a clear and worrying contrast. AMY GOODMAN: Joel Charny, I want to thank you for being with us, director of the Norwegian Refugee Council USA. And, of course, we’ll continue to cover the story. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Thu Mar 16 14:47:16 2017 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 09:47:16 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Health Over Profit - National Week of Action: Our Health is NOT for Sale! Message-ID: <006401d29e64$38ef70e0$aace52a0$@comcast.net> Health Over Profit National Week of Action: Our Health is NOT for Sale! Description: https://i1.wp.com/healthoverprofit.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/april7.png ?resize=300%2C300April 7, 2017, is the international day of action against the privatization of health care. "Our Health is not for Sale!" is being organized by the People 's Health Movement, a global grassroots movement that advocates for "Health for All." Health Over Profit for Everyone is joining "Our Health is not for Sale" and encourages you to join our National Call-in and Write-in Week from April 3 to 7 to tell Congress to take action now for National Improved Medicare for All. Click here for the call-in tool. Click here for write-in information. Click here for the Facebook page. We also urge you to organize a local action around the date of April 7. It could take place before or after. Members of Congress will start their recess and will be home in their local districts starting the afternoon of April 7. You might want to use Dr. Paris' "PISD - Privatization-Induced Stress Disorder" (pronounced "Pissed") in your action. There is a growing epidemic of PISD in the United States. Fortunately, there is a cure: National Improved Medicare for All. Click here for information about PISD. Ideas for actions: Organize a public awareness and political action event. Set up a table in a public space with literature and post cards addressed to your local member of Congress that people can fill out. Be creative. If you are a health professional, you can have a sign that says "The __________ is in" (doctor, nurse, psychologist, etc). Click here for more information on organizing a post card and letter event. Organize a local teach-in or movie night followed by a discussion. Visit PNHP.org to find a local speaker. We suggest "The Healthcare Movie ," "Now is the Time " and "Fix It " as excellent movies. Organize a healthcare speak out or town hall. These are events where people can share their stories. You can invite your members of Congress to attend and listen. Click here for information on how to organize these. Organize a rally and/or march. Invite local groups to speak about why they support National Improve Medicare for All. Consider marching to your member of Congress' office to deliver your message or a local health profiteer to bring a message that putting profits over health is wrong. Organize a visit to your member of Congress' office. Encourage your member of Congress to co-sponsor HR 676: The Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act. If they are already a co-sponsor, meet with them to ask them to be more active on the issue - speaking out about it in public, writing op-eds, encouraging other members of the state delegation to co-sponsor HR 676. Meet with your senator to educate them about National Improved Medicare for All. Spread the word about your action! Once you have a date and action chosen, post it on the Action Map so we can spread the word. Click here for the Action Map. Make a Facebook page and start inviting people. If you need us to make a Facebook page for you, let us know and we will. Contact us at Facebook.com/HealthOverProfit.org/ Tweet about your event before, during and after. The common hashtag is #health4all. Send a press release to your local media and follow up with a phone call. 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The principles and perspective of the Russian Revolution must be made the basis for the development of an international socialist movement today. I would encourage you to register on the site to receive notices to attend the rest of the lectures if you have not already done so. Please let me know if you have any questions about this or other political questions, or if you would like to become involved. Also, if you are able to donate, that would be much appreciated. Our political movement does not have wealthy corporate donors and all of our political work is funded by our supporters. A link to do so is located on the website I linked to above. Sincerely, Alex Fangmann 312-971-7196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Mar 16 15:34:10 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:34:10 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Israel: An Apartheid State Message-ID: FAB D in BDS. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:24 AM To: eFreePalestine at yahoogroups.com Subject: Israel: An Apartheid State Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) The Cowardice of Harvard's Larry Summers by Prof. Francis Boyle (U of Illinois School of Law, Urbana-Champaign) I'm not going to go through the subsequent history of the divestment/disinvestment movement, except to say that in the late summer of 2002 the President of Harvard, Larry Summers accused those of us Harvard alumni involved in the Harvard divestment campaign of being anti-Semitic. After he made these charges, WBUR Radio Station in Boston, which is a National Public Radio affiliate, called me up and said: "We would like you to debate Summers for one hour on these charges, live." And I said, "I'd be happy to do so." They then called up Summers and he refused to debate me. Summers did not have the courage, the integrity, or the principles to back up his scurrilous charges. Eventually Harvard fired Summers because of his attempt to impose his Neo-Conservative agenda on Harvard, and in particular his other scurrilous charge that women are dumber then men when it comes to math and science. Well as a triple Harvard alumnus I say: Good riddance to Larry Summers! (laughter). Debating Dershowitz WBUR then called me back and said, "Well, since Summers won't debate you, would you debate Alan Dershowitz?" And I said, "Sure." So we had a debate for one hour, live on the radio. And there is a link that you can hear this debate if you want to. I still think it's the best debate out there on this whole issue of Israeli apartheid. Again that would be WBUR Radio Station, Boston, 25 September 2002. The problem with the debate, of course, is that Dershowitz knows nothing about international law and human rights. So he immediately started out by saying "well, there's nothing similar to the apartheid regime in South Africa and what Israel is doing to the Palestinians." Well the problem with that is that Dershowitz did not know anything at all about even the existence of the Apartheid Convention. That is our second Handout for tonight. [See Handout 2 reprinted below.] The definition of apartheid is set out in the Apartheid Convention of 1973. And this is taken from my book Defending Civil Resistance Under International Law, Trial Materials on South Africa, published in 1987, that we used successfully to defend anti-apartheid resistors in the United States. If you take a look at the definition of apartheid here found in Article 2, you will see that Israel has inflicted each and every act of apartheid set out in Article 2 on the Palestinians, except an outright ban on marriages between Israelis and Palestinians. But even there they have barred Palestinians living in occupied Palestine who marry Israeli citizens from moving into Israel, and thus defeat the right of family reunification that of course the world supported when Jews were emigrating from the Soviet Union. Israel: An Apartheid State Again you don't have to take my word for it. There's an excellent essay today on Counterpunch.org by the leading Israeli human rights advocate Shulamit Aloni saying basically: "Yes we have an apartheid state in Israel." Indeed, there are roads in the West Bank for Jews only.Palestinians can't ride there and now they're introducing new legislation that Jews cannot even ride Palestinians in their cars. This lead my colleague and friend Professor John Dugard who is the U.N. Special rapporteur for human rights in Palestine to write an essay earlier this fall that you can get on Google, saying that in fact Israeli apartheid against the Palestinians is worse than the apartheid that the Afrikaners inflicted on the Blacks in South Africa. Professor Dugard should know. He was one of a handful of courageous, white, international lawyers living in South Africa at the time who publicly and internationally condemned apartheid against Blacks at risk to his own life. Indeed, when I was litigating anti-apartheid cases on South Africa, we used Professor Dugard's book on Human Rights and the South African Legal Order as the definitive work explaining what apartheid is all about. So Professor Dugard has recently made this statement. Of course President Carter has recently made this statement in his book that Israel is an apartheid state. And certainly if you look at that definition of the Apartheid Convention, right there in front of you, it's clear - there are objective criteria. Indeed if you read my Palestinian book I have a Bibliography at the end with the facts right there based on reputable human rights reports, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, etc. Many of them were also compiled and discussed by my friend Professor Norman Finklestein in his book Beyond Chutzpah, which I'd encourage you to read. Francis A. Boyle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Thu Mar 16 16:00:03 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:00:03 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Israel: An Apartheid State In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <806C8327-9FFD-44F8-89DB-4D473F00D66C@illinois.edu> [Jeffrey St Clair] New UN Study confirms and documents Israel's apartheid-like treatment of Palestinians: https://www.unescwa.org/publications/israeli-practices-palestinian-people-apartheid-occupation Chomsky has said for a while that conditions for Arabs in Israel proper are not so harsh as those for blacks under apartheid South Africa; but in the occupied territories, they’re much worse. South Africa needed black labor; Israel wants to remove Arabs from 'greater Israel.’ —CGE > On Mar 16, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > […] > > The Cowardice of Harvard's Larry Summers by Prof. Francis Boyle (U of Illinois School of Law, Urbana-Champaign) > > I'm not going to go through the subsequent history of the divestment/disinvestment movement, except to say that in the late summer of 2002 the President of Harvard, Larry Summers accused those of us Harvard alumni involved in the Harvard divestment campaign of being anti-Semitic. > > After he made these charges, WBUR Radio Station in Boston, which is a National Public Radio affiliate, called me up and said: "We would like you to debate Summers for one hour on these charges, live." And I said, "I'd be happy to do so." They then called up Summers and he refused to debate me. > > Summers did not have the courage, the integrity, or the principles to back up his scurrilous charges. Eventually Harvard fired Summers because of his attempt to impose his Neo-Conservative agenda on Harvard, and in particular his other scurrilous charge that women are dumber then men when it comes to math and science. Well as a triple Harvard alumnus I say: Good riddance to Larry Summers! (laughter). > > Debating Dershowitz > > WBUR then called me back and said, "Well, since Summers won't debate you, would you debate Alan Dershowitz?" And I said, "Sure." So we had a debate for one hour, live on the radio. And there is a link that you can hear this debate if you want to. I still think it's the best debate out there on this whole issue of Israeli apartheid. Again that would be WBUR Radio Station, Boston, 25 September 2002. > > The problem with the debate, of course, is that Dershowitz knows nothing about international law and human rights. So he immediately started out by saying "well, there's nothing similar to the apartheid regime in South Africa and what Israel is doing to the Palestinians." > Well the problem with that is that Dershowitz did not know anything at all about even the existence of the Apartheid Convention. That is our second Handout for tonight. [See Handout 2 reprinted below.] > > The definition of apartheid is set out in the Apartheid Convention of 1973. > > And this is taken from my book Defending Civil Resistance Under International Law, Trial Materials on South Africa, published in 1987, that we used successfully to defend anti-apartheid resistors in the United States. If you take a look at the definition of apartheid here found in Article 2, you will see that Israel has inflicted each and every act of apartheid set out in Article 2 on the Palestinians, except an outright ban on marriages between Israelis and Palestinians. But even there they have barred Palestinians living in occupied Palestine who marry Israeli citizens from moving into Israel, and thus defeat the right of family reunification that of course the world supported when Jews were emigrating from the Soviet Union. > > Israel: An Apartheid State > > Again you don't have to take my word for it. There's an excellent essay today on Counterpunch.org by the leading Israeli human rights advocate Shulamit Aloni saying basically: "Yes we have an apartheid state in Israel." Indeed, there are roads in the West Bank for Jews only.Palestinians can't ride there and now they're introducing new legislation that Jews cannot even ride Palestinians in their cars. > > This lead my colleague and friend Professor John Dugard who is the U.N. Special rapporteur for human rights in Palestine to write an essay earlier this fall that you can get on Google, saying that in fact Israeli apartheid against the Palestinians is worse than the apartheid that the Afrikaners inflicted on the Blacks in South Africa. Professor Dugard should know. > > He was one of a handful of courageous, white, international lawyers living in South Africa at the time who publicly and internationally condemned apartheid against Blacks at risk to his own life. Indeed, when I was litigating anti-apartheid cases on South Africa, we used Professor Dugard's book on Human Rights and the South African Legal Order as the definitive work explaining what apartheid is all about. > > So Professor Dugard has recently made this statement. Of course President Carter has recently made this statement in his book that Israel is an apartheid state. And certainly if you look at that definition of the Apartheid Convention, right there in front of you, it's clear - there are objective criteria. Indeed if you read my Palestinian book I have a Bibliography at the end with the facts right there based on reputable human rights reports, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, etc. Many of them were also compiled and discussed by my friend Professor Norman Finklestein in his book Beyond Chutzpah, which I'd encourage you to read. > > Francis A. Boyle From r-szoke at illinois.edu Thu Mar 16 16:06:00 2017 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:06:00 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] the killer budget Message-ID: <079E2600-0602-40BC-A491-5A297EE00918@illinois.edu> For “defense” read “military” or “war,” as usual. Trump federal budget 2018: Massive cuts to the arts, science and the poor $54 billion bump in defense spending would be offset by stripping money from more than 18 other agencies. Damian Paletta • Read more » https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-federal-budget-2018-massive-cuts-to-the-arts-science-and-the-poor/2017/03/15/0a0a0094-09a1-11e7-a15f-a58d4a988474_story.html?wpisrc=nl_az_most&wpmk=1 What's getting cut in Trump's budget To fund increases in defense spending and a border wall, Trump proposed cuts across departments. Kim Soffen • Read more » https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/whats-getting-cut-in-trumps-budget/2017/03/15/1c6da7c0-09e4-11e7-93dc-00f9bdd74ed1_graphic.html?wpisrc=nl_az_most&wpmk=1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Mar 16 16:48:50 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:48:50 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Israel: An Apartheid State In-Reply-To: <806C8327-9FFD-44F8-89DB-4D473F00D66C@illinois.edu> References: <806C8327-9FFD-44F8-89DB-4D473F00D66C@illinois.edu> Message-ID: South Africa needed black labor; Israel wants to remove Arabs from 'greater Israel.’ —CGE ----------------------------------- For sure. FAB D in BDS. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:00 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; Jay Becker ; Wise, Phyllis M ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Joe Lauria ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; Dave Trippel ; Arlene Hickory ; David Swanson ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Karen Aram Subject: Re: Israel: An Apartheid State [Jeffrey St Clair] New UN Study confirms and documents Israel's apartheid-like treatment of Palestinians: https://www.unescwa.org/publications/israeli-practices-palestinian-people-apartheid-occupation Chomsky has said for a while that conditions for Arabs in Israel proper are not so harsh as those for blacks under apartheid South Africa; but in the occupied territories, they’re much worse. South Africa needed black labor; Israel wants to remove Arabs from 'greater Israel.’ —CGE > On Mar 16, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > […] > > The Cowardice of Harvard's Larry Summers by Prof. Francis Boyle (U of Illinois School of Law, Urbana-Champaign) > > I'm not going to go through the subsequent history of the divestment/disinvestment movement, except to say that in the late summer of 2002 the President of Harvard, Larry Summers accused those of us Harvard alumni involved in the Harvard divestment campaign of being anti-Semitic. > > After he made these charges, WBUR Radio Station in Boston, which is a National Public Radio affiliate, called me up and said: "We would like you to debate Summers for one hour on these charges, live." And I said, "I'd be happy to do so." They then called up Summers and he refused to debate me. > > Summers did not have the courage, the integrity, or the principles to back up his scurrilous charges. Eventually Harvard fired Summers because of his attempt to impose his Neo-Conservative agenda on Harvard, and in particular his other scurrilous charge that women are dumber then men when it comes to math and science. Well as a triple Harvard alumnus I say: Good riddance to Larry Summers! (laughter). > > Debating Dershowitz > > WBUR then called me back and said, "Well, since Summers won't debate you, would you debate Alan Dershowitz?" And I said, "Sure." So we had a debate for one hour, live on the radio. And there is a link that you can hear this debate if you want to. I still think it's the best debate out there on this whole issue of Israeli apartheid. Again that would be WBUR Radio Station, Boston, 25 September 2002. > > The problem with the debate, of course, is that Dershowitz knows nothing about international law and human rights. So he immediately started out by saying "well, there's nothing similar to the apartheid regime in South Africa and what Israel is doing to the Palestinians." > Well the problem with that is that Dershowitz did not know anything at all about even the existence of the Apartheid Convention. That is our second Handout for tonight. [See Handout 2 reprinted below.] > > The definition of apartheid is set out in the Apartheid Convention of 1973. > > And this is taken from my book Defending Civil Resistance Under International Law, Trial Materials on South Africa, published in 1987, that we used successfully to defend anti-apartheid resistors in the United States. If you take a look at the definition of apartheid here found in Article 2, you will see that Israel has inflicted each and every act of apartheid set out in Article 2 on the Palestinians, except an outright ban on marriages between Israelis and Palestinians. But even there they have barred Palestinians living in occupied Palestine who marry Israeli citizens from moving into Israel, and thus defeat the right of family reunification that of course the world supported when Jews were emigrating from the Soviet Union. > > Israel: An Apartheid State > > Again you don't have to take my word for it. There's an excellent essay today on Counterpunch.org by the leading Israeli human rights advocate Shulamit Aloni saying basically: "Yes we have an apartheid state in Israel." Indeed, there are roads in the West Bank for Jews only.Palestinians can't ride there and now they're introducing new legislation that Jews cannot even ride Palestinians in their cars. > > This lead my colleague and friend Professor John Dugard who is the U.N. Special rapporteur for human rights in Palestine to write an essay earlier this fall that you can get on Google, saying that in fact Israeli apartheid against the Palestinians is worse than the apartheid that the Afrikaners inflicted on the Blacks in South Africa. Professor Dugard should know. > > He was one of a handful of courageous, white, international lawyers living in South Africa at the time who publicly and internationally condemned apartheid against Blacks at risk to his own life. Indeed, when I was litigating anti-apartheid cases on South Africa, we used Professor Dugard's book on Human Rights and the South African Legal Order as the definitive work explaining what apartheid is all about. > > So Professor Dugard has recently made this statement. Of course President Carter has recently made this statement in his book that Israel is an apartheid state. And certainly if you look at that definition of the Apartheid Convention, right there in front of you, it's clear - there are objective criteria. Indeed if you read my Palestinian book I have a Bibliography at the end with the facts right there based on reputable human rights reports, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, etc. Many of them were also compiled and discussed by my friend Professor Norman Finklestein in his book Beyond Chutzpah, which I'd encourage you to read. > > Francis A. Boyle From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Mar 16 17:36:39 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 17:36:39 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?Chris_Hedges_=E2=80=93_Episode_78?= Message-ID: A very worthwhile podcast, with Eric Draitser interviewing Chris Hedges, explaining why some of us don’t support the two party system of the “Deep State." I don’t particularly agree with everything stated, such as “taking on China as opposed to Russia because they’re white” or because “Bannon is a racist.” The powers that be now referred to as the “Deep State,” have been planning control of Eurasia since WW2 if not before. Its geopolitical with China having time on their side, while Russia will be weaker after Syria and Iran’s power is destroyed, and after China is weakened. This has been suggested by William Blum as well. Please see: https://store.counterpunch.org/chris-hedges-episode-78/ From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Mar 16 17:36:39 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 17:36:39 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?Chris_Hedges_=E2=80=93_Episode_78?= Message-ID: A very worthwhile podcast, with Eric Draitser interviewing Chris Hedges, explaining why some of us don’t support the two party system of the “Deep State." I don’t particularly agree with everything stated, such as “taking on China as opposed to Russia because they’re white” or because “Bannon is a racist.” The powers that be now referred to as the “Deep State,” have been planning control of Eurasia since WW2 if not before. Its geopolitical with China having time on their side, while Russia will be weaker after Syria and Iran’s power is destroyed, and after China is weakened. This has been suggested by William Blum as well. Please see: https://store.counterpunch.org/chris-hedges-episode-78/ From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Mar 17 15:52:42 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:52:42 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Syria Message-ID: Two Suicide Bombs Rock Damascus – As the West’s Dirty War Enters Its Seventh Year MARCH 15, 2017 BY 21WIRE 0 COMMENTS 21st Century Wire says… So long as the West and its Gulf allies, along with Turkey, continue supporting terrorism in Syria, then this war will continue to rage on and take more innocent lives. Initial reports from State news agency SANA cited the Damascus police citing at least 32 dead, and another 102 injured at courthouse, and a further 28 injured in the restaurant targeted by ‘rebel’ terrorists. As earlier reports are updated, casualty numbers are expected to rise sharply. The Inquirer reports: “The first attacker struck inside the Justice Palace, located near the famous and crowded Hamidiyeh market. The explosion left bodies lying amid pools of blood and shattered glass in the building’s main hall, adorned with a picture of President Bashar Assad hanging on one of the walls.” In another attack last week, a ‘rebel’ bombing attack took 74 innocent lives. [1 Syria Bombing] AFP/Daily Star DAMASCUS: Two suicide bombings hit the Syrian capital Damascus on Wednesday, including an attack at a central courthouse that killed at least 32 people, as the country’s war entered its seventh year. (…) There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the blasts, the second wave of deadly attacks in the capital in less than a week, after twin bombings Saturday that killed 74 people. Wednesday’s first attack saw a suicide bomber rush inside the building and blow himself up when police tried to prevent him from entering the courthouse in the center of Damascus, state media reported. A police source told AFP that 32 people were killed and 100 wounded. “I heard a commotion and looked to my left and I saw a man in a military vest,” a man with a bandage over his eye told state television after the attack. “He had his hands up and screamed ‘God is greatest’ and then the blast happened,” he added. “I fell to the ground and blood came out of my eye.” State television broadcast images from inside the courthouse, showing blood smeared across the marble floor of the lobby, with a portrait of President Bashar Assad still intact and hanging above. Blood was also splattered across the ceiling, and bits of broken glass, wood and pieces of paper littered the floor. Streets deserted The second blast hit a restaurant in the Rabweh district in the west of the city less than two hours later, and injured 25 people, the police source said. State media said the bomber had ducked into the restaurant after being chased by security services. In the wake of the attacks, AFP correspondents in the city said the streets were deserted, with some roads blocked off by security services… Continue this story at Daily Star READ MORE SYRIA NEWS AT: 21st Century Wire Syria Files SUPPORT 21WIRE – SUBSCRIBE & BECOME A MEMBER @21WIRE.TV * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Mar 17 15:52:42 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:52:42 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Syria Message-ID: Two Suicide Bombs Rock Damascus – As the West’s Dirty War Enters Its Seventh Year MARCH 15, 2017 BY 21WIRE 0 COMMENTS 21st Century Wire says… So long as the West and its Gulf allies, along with Turkey, continue supporting terrorism in Syria, then this war will continue to rage on and take more innocent lives. Initial reports from State news agency SANA cited the Damascus police citing at least 32 dead, and another 102 injured at courthouse, and a further 28 injured in the restaurant targeted by ‘rebel’ terrorists. As earlier reports are updated, casualty numbers are expected to rise sharply. The Inquirer reports: “The first attacker struck inside the Justice Palace, located near the famous and crowded Hamidiyeh market. The explosion left bodies lying amid pools of blood and shattered glass in the building’s main hall, adorned with a picture of President Bashar Assad hanging on one of the walls.” In another attack last week, a ‘rebel’ bombing attack took 74 innocent lives. [1 Syria Bombing] AFP/Daily Star DAMASCUS: Two suicide bombings hit the Syrian capital Damascus on Wednesday, including an attack at a central courthouse that killed at least 32 people, as the country’s war entered its seventh year. (…) There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the blasts, the second wave of deadly attacks in the capital in less than a week, after twin bombings Saturday that killed 74 people. Wednesday’s first attack saw a suicide bomber rush inside the building and blow himself up when police tried to prevent him from entering the courthouse in the center of Damascus, state media reported. A police source told AFP that 32 people were killed and 100 wounded. “I heard a commotion and looked to my left and I saw a man in a military vest,” a man with a bandage over his eye told state television after the attack. “He had his hands up and screamed ‘God is greatest’ and then the blast happened,” he added. “I fell to the ground and blood came out of my eye.” State television broadcast images from inside the courthouse, showing blood smeared across the marble floor of the lobby, with a portrait of President Bashar Assad still intact and hanging above. Blood was also splattered across the ceiling, and bits of broken glass, wood and pieces of paper littered the floor. Streets deserted The second blast hit a restaurant in the Rabweh district in the west of the city less than two hours later, and injured 25 people, the police source said. State media said the bomber had ducked into the restaurant after being chased by security services. In the wake of the attacks, AFP correspondents in the city said the streets were deserted, with some roads blocked off by security services… Continue this story at Daily Star READ MORE SYRIA NEWS AT: 21st Century Wire Syria Files SUPPORT 21WIRE – SUBSCRIBE & BECOME A MEMBER @21WIRE.TV * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Mar 18 19:58:11 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 19:58:11 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Nero plays his fidle while Rome burns, thats where we are today. Message-ID: US threats against North Korea and the danger of war in Asia 18 March 2017 With extreme recklessness, the Trump administration is charting a course toward war in the Asia-Pacific. From the response in the US media and political establishment, however, one would have no idea how dangerous the situation is, nor how incalculable the consequences. The latest in the escalating war of words came from US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who said at a press conference in Seoul, South Korea on Friday that “all options are on the table” in dealing with North Korea. The comments came in advance of Tillerson’s visit today to China, North Korea’s main ally. “Let me be very clear: the policy of strategic patience has ended,” the former CEO of ExxonMobil said, in what was widely interpreted as a rebuke to the Obama administration’s preference for economic sanctions in relation to North Korea. When asked about the possibility of a military response, Tillerson replied, “If they elevate the threat of their weapons program to a level that we believe requires action then that option is on the table.” Echoing Tillerson’s threats, US President Donald Trump tweeted, “North Korea is behaving very badly. They have been ‘playing’ the United States for years. China has done little to help!” If words have any meaning, the statements from Tillerson and Trump make clear that the US is preparing “pre-emptive” war, justified by North Korea’s reported plans to test an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of reaching the continental United States. There is a staggering disconnect between the terrible consequences of such a war and the way it is being treated in the US media. Tillerson’s comments were greeted with a shrug on the network news programs Saturday evening. The Democrats have remained silent. What would come from a US strike on North Korea? Would the crisis-ridden North Korean regime respond by firing missiles against Seoul or Tokyo? Would it use one of its nuclear weapons? Would a war against North Korea spiral into a direct conflict between the world’s two largest economies, the United States and China? These questions cannot be answered for certain, but all scenarios are possible. One of the few comments addressing the character of a US war with North Korea came from retired Army Major Mike Lyons, a senior fellow for the Truman National Security Project. Writing in the Hill on Friday, Lyons said that US allies in the Pacific should begin “taking inventory of your military capability” and planning for a military operation that “could cause immediate casualties and destruction the world hasn’t seen since WWII.” “We would have to literally blanket the sky for hours with air strikes,” Lyons wrote. The attack “would not focus on just military targets—there would be civilian casualties in the hundreds of thousands as well.” He further warned, “The war won’t go as planned for many reasons—if the North is successful in launching a nuclear weapon that destroys part of Seoul,” the US would likely be impelled to retaliate. In other words, a war is being contemplated that could lead to the first combat use of nuclear weapons since the end of World War II. Any military action in the tinder box of North East Asia can have far-reaching consequences, whatever the immediate intentions of the US may be. In recent weeks, the US and South Korea have engaged in large-scale military exercises; North Korea’s ambassador to the UN has warned that the “the Korean Peninsula is again inching to the brink of a nuclear war;” North Korea has test-fired missiles in the direction of Japan; and the US has begun deployment of an anti-ballistic missile system in South Korea that is directed primarily at China. On Tuesday, Japan announced plans to dispatch its largest warship on a tour of the South China Sea, prompting protests from China. The German newspaper Die Zeit commented earlier this week on escalating geopolitical tensions throughout the world: “Whether on purpose or accidentally, Trump could quickly get into a great war. Whether the United States, or anyone else, could emerge victorious from it, is doubtful.” The recklessness of US actions testifies to the fact that the root of the spiraling conflict is not to be found in the Asia-Pacific, but rather in the United States, which is facing an unparalleled series of crises. Despite its increasingly provocative threats against China and North Korea, the US alliance system in Asia is showing severe signs of strain. The impeachment of South Korean President Park Geun-hye was seen as a blow to US interests in the region. Meanwhile the Philippines, a key US ally, has reoriented toward China at the expense of the US. Washington's European alliance system faces an even more dramatic breakdown. The same day that Tillerson made his threats against China, Trump and German Chancellor Angela Merkel held a press conference in which the NATO allies addressed each other effectively as adversaries. At the same time, the Trump administration has proposed a budget that calls for cuts to domestic spending of over 30 percent in some departments, while adding some $52 billion to US military spending. The White House is pushing a health care overhaul that would gut Medicaid, the health care program for the poor and disabled, and cause more than 20 million people to lose health care coverage. The imposition of these policies will lead to growing social discontent within the United States, which is already beset by record social inequality. There is an element of madness in the Trump administration’s policies, but it is a madness rooted in the contradictions of American capitalism. The American ruling class depends upon constant war—both as a means of diverting social tensions outward, and as the principle mechanism for maintaining its global position under conditions of economic decline. Responsibility for this policy does not end with the White House. Whatever their differences, all factions of the political establishment are agreed on the basic strategic imperative of world domination. As for the pseudo-left organizations, which take their line from the Democratic Party and ooze with the complacency of the upper-middle class layers for which they speak, one would never know from reading their publications that world war is an imminent possibility. The greatest danger is that the working class, which does not want war, is unaware of the gravity of the situation and is not politically organized and mobilized to prevent it. Policies that will have catastrophic consequences for workers in the United States and internationally are being carried out behind their backs. This plays into the hands of the conspiratorial cabal in Washington. The development of a socialist, anti-war movement in the United States and throughout the world is the most urgent political task. Andre Damon WSWS.ORG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Mar 18 19:58:11 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 19:58:11 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Nero plays his fidle while Rome burns, thats where we are today. Message-ID: US threats against North Korea and the danger of war in Asia 18 March 2017 With extreme recklessness, the Trump administration is charting a course toward war in the Asia-Pacific. From the response in the US media and political establishment, however, one would have no idea how dangerous the situation is, nor how incalculable the consequences. The latest in the escalating war of words came from US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who said at a press conference in Seoul, South Korea on Friday that “all options are on the table” in dealing with North Korea. The comments came in advance of Tillerson’s visit today to China, North Korea’s main ally. “Let me be very clear: the policy of strategic patience has ended,” the former CEO of ExxonMobil said, in what was widely interpreted as a rebuke to the Obama administration’s preference for economic sanctions in relation to North Korea. When asked about the possibility of a military response, Tillerson replied, “If they elevate the threat of their weapons program to a level that we believe requires action then that option is on the table.” Echoing Tillerson’s threats, US President Donald Trump tweeted, “North Korea is behaving very badly. They have been ‘playing’ the United States for years. China has done little to help!” If words have any meaning, the statements from Tillerson and Trump make clear that the US is preparing “pre-emptive” war, justified by North Korea’s reported plans to test an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of reaching the continental United States. There is a staggering disconnect between the terrible consequences of such a war and the way it is being treated in the US media. Tillerson’s comments were greeted with a shrug on the network news programs Saturday evening. The Democrats have remained silent. What would come from a US strike on North Korea? Would the crisis-ridden North Korean regime respond by firing missiles against Seoul or Tokyo? Would it use one of its nuclear weapons? Would a war against North Korea spiral into a direct conflict between the world’s two largest economies, the United States and China? These questions cannot be answered for certain, but all scenarios are possible. One of the few comments addressing the character of a US war with North Korea came from retired Army Major Mike Lyons, a senior fellow for the Truman National Security Project. Writing in the Hill on Friday, Lyons said that US allies in the Pacific should begin “taking inventory of your military capability” and planning for a military operation that “could cause immediate casualties and destruction the world hasn’t seen since WWII.” “We would have to literally blanket the sky for hours with air strikes,” Lyons wrote. The attack “would not focus on just military targets—there would be civilian casualties in the hundreds of thousands as well.” He further warned, “The war won’t go as planned for many reasons—if the North is successful in launching a nuclear weapon that destroys part of Seoul,” the US would likely be impelled to retaliate. In other words, a war is being contemplated that could lead to the first combat use of nuclear weapons since the end of World War II. Any military action in the tinder box of North East Asia can have far-reaching consequences, whatever the immediate intentions of the US may be. In recent weeks, the US and South Korea have engaged in large-scale military exercises; North Korea’s ambassador to the UN has warned that the “the Korean Peninsula is again inching to the brink of a nuclear war;” North Korea has test-fired missiles in the direction of Japan; and the US has begun deployment of an anti-ballistic missile system in South Korea that is directed primarily at China. On Tuesday, Japan announced plans to dispatch its largest warship on a tour of the South China Sea, prompting protests from China. The German newspaper Die Zeit commented earlier this week on escalating geopolitical tensions throughout the world: “Whether on purpose or accidentally, Trump could quickly get into a great war. Whether the United States, or anyone else, could emerge victorious from it, is doubtful.” The recklessness of US actions testifies to the fact that the root of the spiraling conflict is not to be found in the Asia-Pacific, but rather in the United States, which is facing an unparalleled series of crises. Despite its increasingly provocative threats against China and North Korea, the US alliance system in Asia is showing severe signs of strain. The impeachment of South Korean President Park Geun-hye was seen as a blow to US interests in the region. Meanwhile the Philippines, a key US ally, has reoriented toward China at the expense of the US. Washington's European alliance system faces an even more dramatic breakdown. The same day that Tillerson made his threats against China, Trump and German Chancellor Angela Merkel held a press conference in which the NATO allies addressed each other effectively as adversaries. At the same time, the Trump administration has proposed a budget that calls for cuts to domestic spending of over 30 percent in some departments, while adding some $52 billion to US military spending. The White House is pushing a health care overhaul that would gut Medicaid, the health care program for the poor and disabled, and cause more than 20 million people to lose health care coverage. The imposition of these policies will lead to growing social discontent within the United States, which is already beset by record social inequality. There is an element of madness in the Trump administration’s policies, but it is a madness rooted in the contradictions of American capitalism. The American ruling class depends upon constant war—both as a means of diverting social tensions outward, and as the principle mechanism for maintaining its global position under conditions of economic decline. Responsibility for this policy does not end with the White House. Whatever their differences, all factions of the political establishment are agreed on the basic strategic imperative of world domination. As for the pseudo-left organizations, which take their line from the Democratic Party and ooze with the complacency of the upper-middle class layers for which they speak, one would never know from reading their publications that world war is an imminent possibility. The greatest danger is that the working class, which does not want war, is unaware of the gravity of the situation and is not politically organized and mobilized to prevent it. Policies that will have catastrophic consequences for workers in the United States and internationally are being carried out behind their backs. This plays into the hands of the conspiratorial cabal in Washington. The development of a socialist, anti-war movement in the United States and throughout the world is the most urgent political task. Andre Damon WSWS.ORG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Mar 19 00:02:04 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 00:02:04 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Excellent analysis: "It's all about Iran, " the troops we're sending to Syria to fight ISIS under the new Administration Message-ID: The West’s sights are now clearly set on Iran [Dan Glazebrook] Dan Glazebrook is a freelance political writer who has written for RT, Counterpunch, Z magazine, the Morning Star, the Guardian, the New Statesman, the Independent and Middle East Eye, amongst others. His first book “Divide and Ruin: The West’s Imperial Strategy in an Age of Crisis” was published by Liberation Media in October 2013. It featured a collection of articles written from 2009 onwards examining the links between economic collapse, the rise of the BRICS, war on Libya and Syria and 'austerity'. He is currently researching a book on US-British use of sectarian death squads against independent states and movements from Northern Ireland and Central America in the 1970s and 80s to the Middle East and Africa today. Published time: 18 Mar, 2017 14:50Edited time: 18 Mar, 2017 15:34 Get short URL [The West’s sights are now clearly set on Iran] U.S. soldiers gather at a military base north of Mosul. © Mohammed Al-Ramahi 1.1K The British-US plan to weaken Iran via the proxy war on Syria has spectacularly backfired. Now they are more desperate than ever to bring Iran to its knees. Western think tanks and ‘strategic institutes’ have been getting themselves in a cold sweat about Iranian influence for some time. In 2012, Frederick Kagan (former Bush advisor and Project for a New American Century neo-con) co-authored a report for the Institute for the Study of War warning “the US and its allies and partners in the region and beyond must not only understand Iran’s regional strategy and influence but also develop a coherent strategy of their own with which to confront them. Considering the religious, economic, political and diplomatic power of the two sides, it is simply unacceptable for the US and its allies to allow even such progress as it has [already] made in these realms." Since Kagan made those comments four years ago, Iran’s “unacceptable...progress” has continued apace. Read more [U.S. President Donald Trump speaks to members of the U.S. Navy on board the USS Gerald R. Ford CVN 78, Virginia. © Mark Wilson / Getty Images]Trump dons 'full-metal-jacket' in embrace of war economy Its military cooperation with Russia, Syria, Iraq and Hezbollah has developed into an increasingly formalized alliance (the so-called “4+1”), in which it played a leading role in the liberation of the Syrian city of Aleppo earlier this year. In Iraq, the Shi’ite militias it sponsors have been the indispensable vanguard of many of the battles against Islamic State, and it wields considerable influence over the rebel forces in both Bahrain and (supposedly) Yemen. The fall of Mosul will only consolidate this power. Indeed, according to the Guardian, the territory west of Mosul that is currently being secured by the Iranian-backed Popular Mobilization forces is one of the final pieces of a jigsaw completing an arc of influence stretching all the way from Tehran to the Mediterranean. Such a ‘land bridge’ to the Mediterranean would significantly strengthen Iran’s independence and ability to withstand, for example, any future blockades or sieges. This is making Western planners particularly nervous, as it significantly weakens the West’s ability to control and corral the Iranians; with a long time Centcom advisor Ali Khedery, for example, claiming that such a development “should trouble every Western leader and our regional allies because this will further embolden Iran.” Forbes, meanwhile, wrote that “Iranian influence in Iraq has the potential to destabilize global oil policy and the global oil market” given that the two countries combined oil reserves almost equal those of Saudi Arabia. For here, as ever, lies the empire’s real fear - that the people of the Middle East might actually gain control over their own resources, and start using them strategically for their own development. Genuine independence has always been the fear of the region’s British, US and Israeli overlords. And Iran’s potential makes this independence a greater threat than most. The Foreign Affairs Committee of the British House of Commons spelled this out in a report in 2014: “Iran has the potential to be a major international power… it could be the “engine room” of the Middle East. It lies in a very significant strategic position, with Iraq to the west, former Soviet states to the north which have only relatively recently gained independence, Afghanistan, and Pakistan to the east and the Persian Gulf—a prime route for oil exports—to the south. It has a large and youthful population—75 million or more, of whom 55 percent are aged under 30. Iran ranks 76th out of the 187 countries classified under the UNDP Human Development Index, based upon assessments of life expectancy, access to knowledge and standard of living, placing it higher than any of its land neighbors. Youth literacy is near-universal. The country’s economy is relatively diverse, with supplies of essential commodities and an engineering, research and manufacturing base. Iran has substantial resources of natural gas (second only to the Russian Federation) and enough oil to enable it to be a leading exporter.” “Unacceptable progress” indeed! View image on Twitter [View image on Twitter] Follow [https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/819870660507955202/aIKukPJE_normal.jpg]RT ✔@RT_com Dear President Trump: Iran is a nation of peace-loving people! (Op-Edge by Catherine Shakdam) https://on.rt.com/84vz 9:01 PM - 6 Mar 2017 * * 5252 Retweets * 111111 likes Clearly, the US has been rattled by Iran for some time. Contrary to Trump’s assertions, for example, the Iranian ‘nuclear deal’ was less a ‘gift’ to Iran than a changing of tack to a longer game allowing the West to cultivate a fifth column in the country in preparation for a future attack. Yet, US belligerence has apparently been stepped up under Trump, with new sanctions, an enormous ramping up of hostile rhetoric and the dispatch of another warship to Iran’s borders in January following an entirely legal Iranian missile test. But most worryingly, the US has been sending large numbers of US troops to Iran’s neighbors in recent weeks. The initial deployment of 500 US troops in Syria was followed on March 9 by a further 400, with the Washington Post announcing on March 15 that another 1,000 are on the way. These are just part of a massive flotilla of almost 5,000 US soldiers currently en route to the region, with troops from Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the UAE also being considered. This was revealed just one day after Trump met Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman at the White House, following meetings earlier in the week between Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and the foreign ministers of both Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. These troops are ostensibly going to aid the fight to oust ISIS from their stronghold in Raqqa. The real reason is to cement US influence and confront the Iranians. This is the US ground invasion which the 'Gulfis' have been calling for for years. Its aim is to keep the civil war alive by keeping the Syrian Arab Army out of Raqqa. View image on Twitter [View image on Twitter] Follow [https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/819870660507955202/aIKukPJE_normal.jpg]RT ✔@RT_com The real reason Trump wants to defeat ISIS in Mosul: To deny Iran glory & ‘take Iraq back' (Op-Edge by @MartinRJay) https://on.rt.com/858o 12:03 PM - 10 Mar 2017 * * 5151 Retweets * 6161 likes In Iraq, Secretary of Defense James Mattis (an avowed anti-Iran hawk who has claimed the country is a bigger problem than ISIS) announced he plans to keep US troops in Mosul long after the city is recaptured from ISIS. Again, this is nothing to do with ‘stability’ but all about countering Iranian influence. Indeed, according to Iraqi Prime Minister Abadi, Trump promised that he would “double US support, not just continue it” following Mosul’s capture; support here meaning the deployment of occupation troops. But deploying troops to Iraq and Syria to contain Iranian influence is just the start of it. Ultimately, Trump’s Cabinet of anti-Iran warmongers seek to destroy the Islamic Republic itself. Their difficulty is how to convince Russia to go along with this: Syria has taught them that without Russian acquiescence, regime change can be very difficult indeed. The Wall Street Journal recently ran an article on Trump’s plans to “drive a wedge” between Iran and Russia, quoting a European official that there was “daylight” between the two countries. Indeed, differences do seem to have emerged over, for example, Assad’s future in Syria and, as political analyst Eric Draitser has pointed out, the two countries have a certain rivalry over supplying Europe’s energy markets. READ MORE: US hosts anti-ISIS meeting of 68 nations, fails to invite Russia, Iran Nevertheless, it would be utter suicide for Russia to go along with any US attempts to undermine its number one Middle Eastern ally. As the deputy director of the Institute of the CIS, Lieutenant-Colonel Vladimir Yevseyev told Sputnik, “the logic of the White House is simple: any deterioration of relations, whether Russian-Iranian or Russian-Turkish is strengthening the US position in the region.” Neither side has an interest in that. Indeed, Obama’s so-called ‘reset’ of US-Russian relations did not end well for Russia: then Prime Minister Medvedev supported tough UN sanctions on Iran and delayed the delivery of anti-missile batteries to Iran, not to mention acquiescing to NATO aggression against Libya, only to find the US going back on its commitments to roll back its missile defenses in Eastern Europe, organizing an anti-Russian coup in Ukraine, initiating a major sanctions regime, and sponsoring a proxy war against Russia’s ally Syria. So much for gratitude! Thankfully, Iranian and Russian interests are deeply converged and a split highly unlikely. As the Institute for the Study of War has pointed out, the list of shared interests is long, ranging from support for the Syrian government, the desire to limit US influence in the Middle East and support for Armenia against Azerbaijan and Turkey, forming a relationship that “rests on a deep foundation of common strategic objectives and interests”. The key, however, is to approach matters with eyes wide open. Trump’s rushing of troops to Syria is nothing to do with any ‘common front’ against ISIS and everything to do with weakening Iran. And in the end, this means weakening Russia too. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Mar 19 00:02:04 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 00:02:04 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Excellent analysis: "It's all about Iran, " the troops we're sending to Syria to fight ISIS under the new Administration Message-ID: The West’s sights are now clearly set on Iran [Dan Glazebrook] Dan Glazebrook is a freelance political writer who has written for RT, Counterpunch, Z magazine, the Morning Star, the Guardian, the New Statesman, the Independent and Middle East Eye, amongst others. His first book “Divide and Ruin: The West’s Imperial Strategy in an Age of Crisis” was published by Liberation Media in October 2013. It featured a collection of articles written from 2009 onwards examining the links between economic collapse, the rise of the BRICS, war on Libya and Syria and 'austerity'. He is currently researching a book on US-British use of sectarian death squads against independent states and movements from Northern Ireland and Central America in the 1970s and 80s to the Middle East and Africa today. Published time: 18 Mar, 2017 14:50Edited time: 18 Mar, 2017 15:34 Get short URL [The West’s sights are now clearly set on Iran] U.S. soldiers gather at a military base north of Mosul. © Mohammed Al-Ramahi 1.1K The British-US plan to weaken Iran via the proxy war on Syria has spectacularly backfired. Now they are more desperate than ever to bring Iran to its knees. Western think tanks and ‘strategic institutes’ have been getting themselves in a cold sweat about Iranian influence for some time. In 2012, Frederick Kagan (former Bush advisor and Project for a New American Century neo-con) co-authored a report for the Institute for the Study of War warning “the US and its allies and partners in the region and beyond must not only understand Iran’s regional strategy and influence but also develop a coherent strategy of their own with which to confront them. Considering the religious, economic, political and diplomatic power of the two sides, it is simply unacceptable for the US and its allies to allow even such progress as it has [already] made in these realms." Since Kagan made those comments four years ago, Iran’s “unacceptable...progress” has continued apace. Read more [U.S. President Donald Trump speaks to members of the U.S. Navy on board the USS Gerald R. Ford CVN 78, Virginia. © Mark Wilson / Getty Images]Trump dons 'full-metal-jacket' in embrace of war economy Its military cooperation with Russia, Syria, Iraq and Hezbollah has developed into an increasingly formalized alliance (the so-called “4+1”), in which it played a leading role in the liberation of the Syrian city of Aleppo earlier this year. In Iraq, the Shi’ite militias it sponsors have been the indispensable vanguard of many of the battles against Islamic State, and it wields considerable influence over the rebel forces in both Bahrain and (supposedly) Yemen. The fall of Mosul will only consolidate this power. Indeed, according to the Guardian, the territory west of Mosul that is currently being secured by the Iranian-backed Popular Mobilization forces is one of the final pieces of a jigsaw completing an arc of influence stretching all the way from Tehran to the Mediterranean. Such a ‘land bridge’ to the Mediterranean would significantly strengthen Iran’s independence and ability to withstand, for example, any future blockades or sieges. This is making Western planners particularly nervous, as it significantly weakens the West’s ability to control and corral the Iranians; with a long time Centcom advisor Ali Khedery, for example, claiming that such a development “should trouble every Western leader and our regional allies because this will further embolden Iran.” Forbes, meanwhile, wrote that “Iranian influence in Iraq has the potential to destabilize global oil policy and the global oil market” given that the two countries combined oil reserves almost equal those of Saudi Arabia. For here, as ever, lies the empire’s real fear - that the people of the Middle East might actually gain control over their own resources, and start using them strategically for their own development. Genuine independence has always been the fear of the region’s British, US and Israeli overlords. And Iran’s potential makes this independence a greater threat than most. The Foreign Affairs Committee of the British House of Commons spelled this out in a report in 2014: “Iran has the potential to be a major international power… it could be the “engine room” of the Middle East. It lies in a very significant strategic position, with Iraq to the west, former Soviet states to the north which have only relatively recently gained independence, Afghanistan, and Pakistan to the east and the Persian Gulf—a prime route for oil exports—to the south. It has a large and youthful population—75 million or more, of whom 55 percent are aged under 30. Iran ranks 76th out of the 187 countries classified under the UNDP Human Development Index, based upon assessments of life expectancy, access to knowledge and standard of living, placing it higher than any of its land neighbors. Youth literacy is near-universal. The country’s economy is relatively diverse, with supplies of essential commodities and an engineering, research and manufacturing base. Iran has substantial resources of natural gas (second only to the Russian Federation) and enough oil to enable it to be a leading exporter.” “Unacceptable progress” indeed! View image on Twitter [View image on Twitter] Follow [https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/819870660507955202/aIKukPJE_normal.jpg]RT ✔@RT_com Dear President Trump: Iran is a nation of peace-loving people! (Op-Edge by Catherine Shakdam) https://on.rt.com/84vz 9:01 PM - 6 Mar 2017 * * 5252 Retweets * 111111 likes Clearly, the US has been rattled by Iran for some time. Contrary to Trump’s assertions, for example, the Iranian ‘nuclear deal’ was less a ‘gift’ to Iran than a changing of tack to a longer game allowing the West to cultivate a fifth column in the country in preparation for a future attack. Yet, US belligerence has apparently been stepped up under Trump, with new sanctions, an enormous ramping up of hostile rhetoric and the dispatch of another warship to Iran’s borders in January following an entirely legal Iranian missile test. But most worryingly, the US has been sending large numbers of US troops to Iran’s neighbors in recent weeks. The initial deployment of 500 US troops in Syria was followed on March 9 by a further 400, with the Washington Post announcing on March 15 that another 1,000 are on the way. These are just part of a massive flotilla of almost 5,000 US soldiers currently en route to the region, with troops from Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the UAE also being considered. This was revealed just one day after Trump met Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman at the White House, following meetings earlier in the week between Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and the foreign ministers of both Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. These troops are ostensibly going to aid the fight to oust ISIS from their stronghold in Raqqa. The real reason is to cement US influence and confront the Iranians. This is the US ground invasion which the 'Gulfis' have been calling for for years. Its aim is to keep the civil war alive by keeping the Syrian Arab Army out of Raqqa. View image on Twitter [View image on Twitter] Follow [https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/819870660507955202/aIKukPJE_normal.jpg]RT ✔@RT_com The real reason Trump wants to defeat ISIS in Mosul: To deny Iran glory & ‘take Iraq back' (Op-Edge by @MartinRJay) https://on.rt.com/858o 12:03 PM - 10 Mar 2017 * * 5151 Retweets * 6161 likes In Iraq, Secretary of Defense James Mattis (an avowed anti-Iran hawk who has claimed the country is a bigger problem than ISIS) announced he plans to keep US troops in Mosul long after the city is recaptured from ISIS. Again, this is nothing to do with ‘stability’ but all about countering Iranian influence. Indeed, according to Iraqi Prime Minister Abadi, Trump promised that he would “double US support, not just continue it” following Mosul’s capture; support here meaning the deployment of occupation troops. But deploying troops to Iraq and Syria to contain Iranian influence is just the start of it. Ultimately, Trump’s Cabinet of anti-Iran warmongers seek to destroy the Islamic Republic itself. Their difficulty is how to convince Russia to go along with this: Syria has taught them that without Russian acquiescence, regime change can be very difficult indeed. The Wall Street Journal recently ran an article on Trump’s plans to “drive a wedge” between Iran and Russia, quoting a European official that there was “daylight” between the two countries. Indeed, differences do seem to have emerged over, for example, Assad’s future in Syria and, as political analyst Eric Draitser has pointed out, the two countries have a certain rivalry over supplying Europe’s energy markets. READ MORE: US hosts anti-ISIS meeting of 68 nations, fails to invite Russia, Iran Nevertheless, it would be utter suicide for Russia to go along with any US attempts to undermine its number one Middle Eastern ally. As the deputy director of the Institute of the CIS, Lieutenant-Colonel Vladimir Yevseyev told Sputnik, “the logic of the White House is simple: any deterioration of relations, whether Russian-Iranian or Russian-Turkish is strengthening the US position in the region.” Neither side has an interest in that. Indeed, Obama’s so-called ‘reset’ of US-Russian relations did not end well for Russia: then Prime Minister Medvedev supported tough UN sanctions on Iran and delayed the delivery of anti-missile batteries to Iran, not to mention acquiescing to NATO aggression against Libya, only to find the US going back on its commitments to roll back its missile defenses in Eastern Europe, organizing an anti-Russian coup in Ukraine, initiating a major sanctions regime, and sponsoring a proxy war against Russia’s ally Syria. So much for gratitude! Thankfully, Iranian and Russian interests are deeply converged and a split highly unlikely. As the Institute for the Study of War has pointed out, the list of shared interests is long, ranging from support for the Syrian government, the desire to limit US influence in the Middle East and support for Armenia against Azerbaijan and Turkey, forming a relationship that “rests on a deep foundation of common strategic objectives and interests”. The key, however, is to approach matters with eyes wide open. Trump’s rushing of troops to Syria is nothing to do with any ‘common front’ against ISIS and everything to do with weakening Iran. And in the end, this means weakening Russia too. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Mar 19 18:29:49 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 18:29:49 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: NYT P. 1 on Federalist Society Hijacking Justice with Gorsuch Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 1:28 PM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: NYT P. 1 on Federalist Society Hijacking Justice with Gorsuch Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: aalsmin-l-bounces at lists.ubalt.edu [mailto:aalsmin-l-bounces at lists.ubalt.edu] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:50 PM To: AALSMIN-L at lists.ubalt.edu Subject: [AALSMIN-L] Feddies:25 Years of Hijacking Justice [NYTr] FederalistSociety Hijacking Justice Almost all of the lawyers involved in the Bush Jr torture scandal are members of the Federalist Society. Thanks to the Federalist Society, the Muslim world--58 states and 1.25 billion people-- believe that the United States is a nation of sadists and sexual perverts. In fact, it is the Feddies who are the sadists and sexual perverts. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Avenue Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (voice) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ From: archive at blythe.org on behalf of nytr at olm.blythe-systems.com Sent: Sun 6/27/2004 12:25 PM To: nytr at olm.blythe-systems.com Subject: [NYTr] Federalist Society Hijacking Justice Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit sent by Francis Boyle HIJACKING JUSTICE: FEDDIES EMERGE, OCTOBER 1999 S P E C I A L R E P O R T H I J A C K I N G J U S T I C E The Federalist Society, a Right-wing network of lawyers, judges and supporters, is undoing civil rights and other gains made through the courts BY GEORGE E. CURRY & TREVOR W. COLEMAN WHEN BROWN VS. BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS BEING ARGUED, a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson suggested that the court should rule against the plaintiffs in the landmark school desegregation case. While making the case for maintaining segregated schools, the clerk sent a memo to his boss saying, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people." That clerk was William Rehnquist, now chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. Seeking to put his own ultraconservatives on the Supreme Court with Rehnquist, President Ronald Reagan -- who had appointed more than half of the sitting federal judges by the time he left office -- considered nominating Lino A. Graglia, a controversial University of Texas law professor, as a federal appeals court judge for the 5th Circuit. But the nomination, which had been backed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, was jettisoned after Graglia acknowledged that he had referred to African-Americans as "pickaninnies." The American Bar Association found the law professor "not qualified" to serve on the federal bench. Reagan did nominate Robert H. Bork, a former Yale law professor, who was on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Bork had opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, calling it "an unwanted intrusion on the right of individuals to choose with whom to associate." After bitter debate, the Senate rejected his nomination in 1987 by a vote of 58 to 42. Far from fading into the background, Bork, Meese, and to a lesser extent, Graglia, are key players in the Federalist Society, a powerful Right-wing network intent on restricting the power of courts, often at the expense of African-Americans and other people of color, the poor, women and the disadvantaged. The organization actively seeks to limit "judicial activism" and reverse Supreme Court landmark rulings since the New Deal, especially those issued in the 1960s and '70s. Special targets include the 1966 Miranda decision that provides certain rights for suspected criminals, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion and recent civil rights legislation. Founded in 1982 by three law students, the Federalist Society has grown into one of the most influential institutions in America. Four of the nine members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- Clarence Thomas, William H. Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy -- are close affiliates of the Federalist Society. So are Donald P. Hodel, former president of the Christina Coalition, and special prosecutor Kenneth Starr. The Federalist Society's board of trustees is co-chaired by Bork and U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch -- one of the most conservative members on Capitol Hill. Other trustees include former Attorney General Meese, William Bradford Reynolds, who was assistant attorney general for civil rights in the Reagan Administration, sought to have court-ordered affirmative action programs overturned, and C. Boyden Gray, former President Bush's chief White House attorney, who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1991. In a world being reshaped by the Federalist Society, conservative law students have formed chapters on campuses across the nation. After graduation, they clerk for conservative judges and then go on to become high-ranking government officials, partners in major law firms, prosecutors, law school professors and judges at the local, state and federal level. In short, the Federalist Society is on the verge of hijacking the judicial system. "This is more than an attack on affirmative action being spear-headed by the Federalist Society lawyers," observes Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. "They want to go beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They want to go back to Brown vs. Board of Education. "We have Justice Antonin Scalia (who advised the Federalist Society at its inception and later hired two of its three founders as his law clerks), who two years ago gave a public lecture at Columbia Law School where he stated if Brown vs. Board of Education was to be presented to him today, he would rule against the plaintiff. In other words, this was a threat that if Brown vs. Board of Education was voted on before the Supreme Court, he would overturn it." That type of thinking disturbs Lawrence E. Walsh. Before becoming president of the American Bar Association in 1975, Walsh chaired an ABA panel that approved President Nixon's choices of federal appeals judges, Clement Haynesworth and G. Harold Carswell, to serve on the Supreme Court. In 1969, the Senate rejected Haynesworth because of conflict-of-interest fears. The following year, Carswell was rejected by the Senate after it was disclosed that he had given a speech as a lawyer expressing his "vigorous belief in the principles of White supremacy." "My concern is there is going to be a cleavage in the courts between the Federalist Society members and nonmembers," says Walsh, a former federal judge. "Anything that perpetuates that kind of ideological cleavage is not good for the unity of the court system. Ideally, it seems to me that judges should avoid memberships [in politically and substantively motivated organizations] but, of course, they don't do that." In fact, the ABA, in one of its publications on judicial independence, concludes: "A judge's impartiality and ability to interpret and apply the laws fairly are integral to the administration of justice." But a judge's membership in an organization -- whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union on the Left or the Federalist Society on the Right -- can influence whether a judge is perceived as being unbiased, a critical element in a judicial system that prides itself on being fair. Harold D. Pope, president of the National Bar Association, says: "People who are opposing the expansion of rights and opportunities for all people in this society we feel are working against America's best interest. We would hope that all jurists, no matter what their prior political persuasion, would deal objectively with the facts of law as they come before them, as they were sworn to do so when they first sat on the bench." The expansion of the Federalist Society, which has adopted a silhouette of James Madison as its symbol, comes at a time when the legal community is worried about a loss of public confidence. An ABA special committee on judicial independence issued a report in August titled "Protecting the Bulwark of the Republic: Ensuring Public Support of the Judicial Process." The report states, "According to the ABA survey, only about half of the respondents believed that our justice system treats men and women equally. Even fewer believed that courts treat members of different ethnic groups or wealthy and poor people the same." The report continues, "As [former] ABA President [Philip S.] Anderson recently stated: "We must work on this problem for as long as it takes to make our profession equally open and our system of justice equally responsive to all members of our society, regardless of color. This is the ultimate challenge to the integrity of the rule of law in America.'" But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities." Even conservative write Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution." Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters. Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is worried about more than theory. "What is scary about the Federalist Society is that it is antiquated and atavistic," she says. "Their views on natural law, libertarianism and the limited power of government to respond when people are being discriminated against is scary -- for African-Americans, especially. The more people you have who expose those views on the court, the more dangerous it becomes for every one of our lives." In this book, Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover Up, Walsh writes: "In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush." Brian W. Jones, a San Francisco lawyer and member of the Federalist Society, believes that his group is being maligned. "I reject out of hand that Federalists are hostile to civil rights," says Jones, an African-American who was deputy legal affairs secretary to California Gov. Pete Wilson and former counsel to Hatch's Senate Judiciary Committee. "Most members of the Federalist Society would agree that the government has no business making racial distinctions of any kind among its citizens. I would argue that is a very credible view of civil rights. "On civil rights and civil liberty issues, Federalist Society judges tend to have a more limited view of the federal government's authority to respond to a whole range of questions. For conservatives, the first question with any inquiry into responding to social problems is: Where does the authority lie, with the federal government or state and local governments?" Another African-American, Gerald Reynolds, is vice chairman of membership for the Federalist Society. "There are some people who embrace this principle of racial neutrality," says the Kansas City, Mo., lawyer. "This debate flows from principles and not from animosity toward Blacks." The national office of the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., refused to provide the names of judges on its membership list. However, some of the organization's records were obtained by Emerge from other sources. An examination of Federalist Society documents for 1997 and 1998, the most current information available at press time, reveals the extent that the group has penetrated the courts. When looking at the board of directors of local chapters, officers, their advisory panels and membership lists, it is clear that when one goes to court seeking justice, he or she is increasingly likely to have a judge affiliated with the Federalist Society handling the case. During the period studied, that was true whether one was entering a courtroom in New York, Michigan or Alabama. (The titles of persons listed hereafter reflect the positions they held at the time the records were compiled by the Federalist Society; some of the judges have since been elevated to a higher court.) In New York state, judges serving as officers, directors or advisers to the local chapters included Thomas P. Griesa, chief judge of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, as well as District Judges Shirley Wohl Kram, Lawrence M. McKenna and John E. Sprizzo. A U.S. Appeals Court Judge for the Second Circuit, Dennis G. Jacobs, was also among that group. The Long Island advisory board included U.S. District Judge Michael Fiechter, U.S. Court of International Trade Judge Gregory W. Carman and State Supreme Court Judges Jack Dunne and Ute Lally. In Michigan, judges aligned with the Federalist Society included James L. Ryan and Richard F. Suhreinrich of the U.S. Court of Appeals; Federal District Judges Paul V. Gadola, David W. McKeague, Gerald E. Rosen and Lawrence P. Zatkoff; and U.S. Magistrate Judge Virginia M. Morgan. State Supreme Court Justices Clifford W. Taylor and Elizabeth A. Weaver were listed as advisers to the Detroit chapter. So were Maura D. Corrigan, chief judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals, along with fellow judges Stephen J. Markman, Henry W. Saad, and Robert Young Jr. (an African-American who has since been elevated to the Michigan Supreme Court). The chief judge of the Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids, Kurtis T. Wilder (another African-Americana who is now on the Michigan Court of Appeals), and Wayne County Circuit Judges Sean Cox, Michael J. Talbot and Brian Zahra helped complete the list. Local chapters in Alabama were advised by Perry O. Hooper Sr., chief justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, along with Associate Justices J. Gorman Houston, Harold See and A. Hugh Maddox. U.S. Sen. Jefferson B. Sessions III also supported the organization. (Sessions was nominated to become a federal judge in 1986 but was blocked when it was disclosed that he had called the NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union "un-American" and "communist-inspired," and said they "force civil rights down the throats of people." Referring to the Ku Klux Klan, he reportedly said, "I used to think they're OK," until he learned that some Klansmen were "pot smokers." Sessions contended the remarks were either made in jest or had been misinterpreted.) Additional supporters listed included Randall T. Shepard, chief justice of the Indiana Supreme Court; Craig Enoch, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court; South Carolina Attorney General Charles Molony Condon; Alabama Attorney General William Pryor (who has links on his web page to the Federalist Society and the conservative Washington Legal Foundation), Pennsylvania Attorney General D. Michael Fisher; Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith and Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, a former aide to House majority leader Richard Armey, and who now works for the Heritage Foundation. As the presiding officials in courts, judges wield broad power. For example, U.S. District Judge Neal B. Biggers Jr., who sits on the advisory board of the Mississippi chapter of the Federalist Society, presided over the Ayers desegregation case. In 1975, Jake Ayers Sr., a Mississippi sharecropper, sued the state on behalf of his son, charging that the state's higher education system discriminated against African-Americans and historically Black colleges. In 1987, Biggers upheld the state College Board's contention that Mississippi's higher education system was no longer racially discriminatory. The Supreme Court reversed Biggers in 1991 and ordered him to remove any vestiges of past discrimination. The power of the Federalist Society is not limited to the judiciary, which would be concern enough. Its tentacles extend deep into corporate America. Listed members of its business advisory council included John Stewart Bryan, III, chairman, president and C.E.O. of Media General Cable; John G. Medlin Jr., board chair of Wachovia Corp., an interstate bank holding company; Geneva Steel C.E.O. Joseph Cannon and Robert L. Strickland, chairman of Lowe's Companies. Also affiliated with the Federalist Society are Brian J. Brille and David Panton of Morgan Stanley financial services in New York; William Haraf of Bank of America in San Francisco; Chris Ekren of Sony Corp. in San Jose, Calif.; Frank Blake of General Electric in Schenechtedy, N.Y.; Philip R. Lochner Jr., senior vice president, Time Warner Inc. in New York; William Kemp of General Motors in Warren, Mich.; Edward Whelan of GTE Corp.'s Washington office; David Askin of Exxon Co. in Baytown, Texas; Marsha Rabiteau of Dow Chemical in Midland, Mich.; F. James Tennies, chief administrative officer at Legg Mason for asset management in Baltimore; Jodi Balsam, counsel for operations and litigation for the National Football League and Tom Donahue of Metropolitan Life. Even federal employees in the Clinton administration were included in Federalist Society documents: Paul-Noel Chretien of the Justice Department; Theodore Cooperstein of the FBI; Carol Crawford of the International Trade Commission; Kevin Martin of the Federal Communications Commission and Christopher Holleman of the U.S. Small Business Administration. William Saunders of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights also backs the Society. Many of the nation's blue-chip law firms have attorneys associated with the Federalist Society. Those listed included lawyers in the Washington, D.C. law firms of Arnold and Porter; Covington & Burling; Steptoe & Johnson; Hogan & Hartson; Patton, Boaggs & Blow; and Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. New York law firms with lawyers associated with the Federalist Society include: Cravath, Swaine & Moore; White & Case and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. In Boston, one law firm -- Hale and Door -- has at least 10 attorneys affiliated with the Federalist Society. The list of law professors associated with the society included Ronald A. Cass, dean of Boston University's law school; Michael Young of Columbia University; John Yoo of the University of California at Berkeley; Eugene Volokh of UCLA; Northwestern University professors Gary Lawson, Daniel D. Polsby and Stephen B. Presser; Robert P. George of Princeton; Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame; Gordon B. Baldwin of the University of Wisconsin, Olan B. Lowry of Temple; Johathan Macey and Richard Painter of Cornell; Ronald D. Rotunda of the University of Illinois; Gerald T. Dunn of St. Louis University and Thomas Morgan of George Washington University. The University of Virginia, one of the best law schools in the nation, has quite a few Federalist Society professors or sympathizers on its faculty, including John Norton Moore, Robert Turner, Erika Worth Harris and Lillian BeVier. "People have to understand, whether they like lawyers or not, law schools have an enormous amount of power, whether it's power for good or evil. Unfortunately, what we are seeing under the Federalist Society is law schools and legal education being used to promote racism, bigotry and Right-wing politics. These people believe in the Bell Curve," says Prof. Boyle of the University of Illinois, referring to a controversial theory by Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein about the supposed low intelligence level of some non-Whites. "You have to understand that. Just as the Federalist Society did to the federal judiciary, they are now trying to do to law schools." Boyle and others say this is done by establishing well-endowed law professorships and speaking tours for the true believers. "Where they once were scholars with Right-wing foundations like the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, they are now getting credentialed as law professors," he notes. No comparable movement exists among progressives, which may explain why civil rights groups and liberals are doing such a feeble job defending affirmative action. "We've got to realize that while we have been dillydallying in law schools with critical race theories and penetrating the Law Review, all this is chump change to [Federalists]," observes Berry, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "It's like we were out playing whiffle ball while they were exercising power." The Federalist Society was founded 17 years ago by Yale Law School student Steven G. Calabresi and two counterparts at the University of Chicago School of Law, Lee Liberman and David McIntosh. All three were undergraduates together at Yale. Upset with what they perceived as liberal bias, the three decided to form an organization for conservative law students. Yale professors Robert H. Bork and Ralph K. Winter, both of whom would be appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, served as advisers to the Yale chapter. In Chicago, future U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia served in a similar capacity. The contacts the three made as students have proven to be invaluable. Calabresi, in addition to clerking for Bork and Winter, clerked for Scalia at the Supreme Court. He is now a law professor at Northwestern University. Liberman gave up a post in the Justice Department also to clerk for Scalia. She is now Lee Liberman Otis and is chief counsel for Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.), who founded a Federalist Society chapter at Harvard. McIntosh was a special assistant to Ed Meese when he was Reagan's attorney general; he is a three-term Republican Congressman who's considering running for governor of Indiana. In addition to a board of trustees, the society has a board of directors, co-chaired by Calabresi and McIntosh. The Federalist pipeline is a well-oiled old boy -- and sometimes girl -- network. For example, Brent O. Hatch, the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, clerked for Robert Bork when he was a federal judge in Washington, D.C. After working in the Justice Department, young Hatch was appointed general counsel of the National Endowment for the Humanities at the age of 28. He is treasurer of the Federalist Society's board of directors. The organization has been funded by wealthy conservatives, such as Richard Mellon Scaife, who is vice chair of the Heritage Foundation's board, and another board member, Holland Coors, a member of the conservative Coors family. Many contributions are made through foundations that give to Right-wing causes, including the John M. Olin Foundation in New York, the Sarah Scaife Foundation in Pittsburgh, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee and the Deer Creek Foundation in St. Louis. The Federalists have direct ties to Right-wing think tanks seeking to dismantle affirmative action at the local, state and federal levels. The Center for Individual Rights, which successfully argued the Hopwood case that banned affirmative action at the University of Texas, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit pending against the University of Michigan and were lawyers for supporters of Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action measure in California. The Washington Legal Foundation sued the University of Maryland, forcing it to drop its Benjamin Banneker scholarships for African-American scholars; the Southeastern Legal Foundation is leading an all-out assault on affirmative action in Atlanta, and the Institute for Justice led the attack on Lani Guinier, then a University of Pennsylvania law professor, who was President Clinton's first choice to be assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights. Clint Bolick, the group's vice president, dismissed Guinier as a "quota queen," and the eventual nominee, Deval L. Patrick, as a "quota king." He also led the opposition to the appointment of Bill Lann Lee, who was later named acting assistant attorney general for civil rights. When first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton said that there was a "vast Right-wing conspiracy" afoot that had been hounding her husband since he first announced for president, some Right-wingers almost laughingly dismissed her charges. Special Prosecutor Ken Starr called the comments "nonsense." And Boston Herald columnist Joe Fitzgerald said the first lady had "wandered into paranoia." But information developed by the Institute for Democracy Studies, a nonprofit research and education organization in New York, confirms that the first lady was on the mark. In the executive summary of its report, "The Assault on Affirmative Action: An Organized Challenge to Racial and Gender Justice," the organization notes, "Once a month at the Heritage Foundation, representatives of the nation's leading conservative law groups get together for a 'luncheon.' This so-called Public Interest Legal Group meeting is just one of several monthly gatherings that right-wing law groups hold." The report continues: "These meetings serve the purpose of avoiding duplication of effort, airing future plans, and providing guidance for an appropriate organizational division of labor." In an interview with Emerge, Todd G. Young, director of research and communications for the Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, confirms that Right-wing groups collaborate. "We read each other's briefs (as they are filed) and when there are updates published by other groups," he says. "Although we are separate entities, we share some common understandings about the Constitutions and our (mission) statements are really almost identical for the organizations." Of its recent lawsuit against Atlanta's affirmative action program, Young notes: "We're refining the definition of what it means to enjoy equal protection under the law and the first step is to end any government-sanctioned discrimination, such as affirmative action programs or racial preference programs. It's philosophically inconsistent to say it was bad then [in the 1950s and 1960s] but it's OK now." Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell says it's not OK to discard programs devised to address discrimination against African-Americans. "Conservative legal interest groups, such as the Center for Individual Rights and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, are striking at the very heart of the civil rights gains of the '50s and '60s," explains Campbell. "These groups are, in essence, a homogenized version of the Klan. They may have traded in their sheets for suits and use different language, but it's the same old racism -- just old wine in new bottles." The Federalist Society takes its name from The Federalist papers, 85 articles originally published in New York newspapers between 1787 and 1788. The authors -- Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison -- were attempting to gain popular support for the adoption of a new Constitution. "Is The Federalist the key to what the Constitution's framers and adopters intended it to mean and how they expected it to function?" asked R. B. Bernstein, a constitutional historian who wrote the foreword to The Federalist, a recent reissue of the papers. "This subset of the original-intent controversy tends to pit many historians, who remain dubious about original-intent arguments, against many legal scholars, who seek a way to limit judicial discretion by anchoring constitutional interpretation in the Constitution's origins." Bernstein argued that the public should not look at the essays, all written under one pen name, as the definitive word on how the Constitution should be interpreted. "Jay was not a delegate to the Federal Convention, which framed the Constitution...[Hamilton] left the Convention in July, not returning until two weeks before its close in September. And Madison...found himself outvoted on a host of major issues," Bernstein noted. Moreover, as The Federalist papers became the classic commentary on the Constitution, the three men publicly identified themselves as the authors. Even that was not without controversy. Before his ill-fated duel with Aaron Burr, Hamilton tried to take credit for writing papers 18-20, 49-58 and 62-63. Madison made an identical claim of authorship, which was verified through a computer analysis in 1964. The most damning fact about today's Federalists is that they advocate a limited role for the federal government, while the early founders were interested in establishing a strong central government. Some civil rights leaders, including Theodore M. Shaw, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc., view the rhetoric of the modern-day Federalists as smokescreen for an assault on civil rights. "It's ideologically out of the mainstream and a part of the radically conservative agenda and the radically conservative agenda has never served the interest of African-Americans," Shaw says. Hilary O. Shelton, Washington bureau chief of the NAACP, is less charitable: "They are not conservative. They are very consistent with the Council of Conservative Citizens," a White supremacy group that has featured Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) as speakers. Surprisingly, some of the harshest criticism of Federalist Society members has come from Republicans. For example, former Attorney General Meese, a main player in the Federalist movement, has been criticized by some of his colleagues in the Reagan administration. According to The Washington Post, James A. Baker III and Michael K. Deaver referred to Meese as the "Big Bigot," and conservatives referred to his top assistant, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., as the "Baby Bigot." Cribb sits on the board of directors of the Federalist Society and is a trustee of the Scaife Foundation, a major contributor to the Federalist Society and other Right-wing causes. Graglia, who has taught at the University of Texas since 1966, touched off a controversy two years ago, when he said, "Blacks and Mexican Americans are not academically competitive with Whites in selective institutions." According to Graglia, "It is the result primarily of cultural effects. Failure is not looked upon with disgrace." He maintains his membership in the Federalist Society. "They certainly are unenthusiastic about civil rights laws," he says of his organization. "Richard Epstein [a law professor at the University of Chicago] thinks we will be better off if civil rights laws were all repealed. These people do believe, as I believe, that so-called civil rights have gone too far and are not civil rights at all." Because so many of the Federalist Society members are seen as opposing civil rights, some people are not quick to accept their professed interest in color-blind justice. U.S. Appeals Court Judge Stephen Reinhardt of the 9th Circuit observes, "We had the Civil War over states' rights. There is no question we are going back to the pre-Civil War view of governments." Former federal Judge Lawrence Walsh puts it more bluntly. "The impression I have is they are trying to return to the 18th century and undo the work of the Supreme Court since the New Deal," Walsh says. "And I think it is wrong to put someone on the court who has a pre-commitment with a political dogma, whether it's the Ku Klux Klan or the Federalist Society." Additional reporting by Lottie L. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _____________________________________________ From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 2:20 PM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: Gorsuch Hijacking Justice with the Feddies v. Judge Lawrence Walsh-- An American Hero: RIP Importance: High Sensitivity: Private Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _____________________________________________ From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:34 PM To: Killeacle > Subject: RIP:Judge Lawrence Walsh-- An American Hero Importance: High Sensitivity: Private Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E.Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, Illinois 61820 Phone: 217-333-7954 Fax: 217-244-1478 fboyle at law.uiuc.edu 9 September 1997 Memorandum TO: Robert H. Bork Federalist Society Dear Bob: Concerning your fund-raising letter of 28 August that just came to my attention, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for publicly associating me with a Lawyer and a Judge who has the principles, courage and integrity of Lawrence Walsh. For your information, that message and others like out were sent out all over the internet, not just to 30 professors, together with the full text of Judge Walsh's attack on the Federalist Society. Out of respect for Judge Walsh, I certainly do hope that my professorial colleagues will pay the most serious attention to what he had to say about the Federalist Society. After all, Judge Walsh is a pillar of the American Legal Establishment and of the Republican Party. As for myself, I have always been a political independent and resent your implication that I am a member of the Democrat Party. Be that as it may, it seems to me that you have only (once again!) made a fool of yourself by publicly attacking a Lawyer and a Judge with the courage, integrity and principles of Judge Walsh--characteristics that you yourself were not noted for as Solicitor General (when you fired Archie Cox, the first Special Prosecutor), during your tenure on the bench, or during your Supreme Court nomination hearings. Rather than publicly attacking Judge Walsh, I suggest that you personally as well as the Federalist Society institutionally should be giving the most serious consideration to what he had to say. Yours very truly, Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law cc: Judge Lawrence Walsh >From Iran-contra Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh, Firewall: According to the conventional wisdom, we were in a double bind: The judges appointed by Democratic presidents were supposedly most concerned with protecting the constitutional rights of persons prosecuted for crimes, while most of the other judges owed their appointments to Ronald Reagan or George Bush, who had stated publicly and emphatically that they hoped that North would not be convicted. Over the years, I had often found such simplistic views to be wrong. Most judges overcome the prejudices and alliances they had when appointed to the federal bench. During my three and one-half years on the federal district court in New York, I had experienced the merging process by which new judges are absorbed into their courts. My hard-line political and professional views had moderated during lunchroom conversations with Learned Hand, Jerome Frank, and Harold Medina and had dissolved after a couple of my decisions had been reversed on appeal. But I was concerned about the continuing political allegiance of Republican judges as manifested in the Federalist Society. Although the organization was not openly partisan, its dogma was political. It reminded me of the communist front groups of the 1940s and l950s, whose members were committed to the communist cause and subject to communist direction but were not card-carrying members of the Communist Party. In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, Ill. 61820 Phone: 217-333-7954 Fax: 217-244-1478 fboyle at law.uiuc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Mar 19 19:43:02 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:43:02 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Gorsuch Hijacking Justice with the Feddies v. Judge Lawrence Walsh-- An American Hero: RIP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually my Mom was really proud of me when I told her I had been publicly attacked by Borked in a mass-mailing fund-raising letter to 25K Feddies. RIP. fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _____________________________________________ From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 2:23 PM To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; Jay Becker ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Joe Lauria ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; Dave Trippel ; Arlene Hickory ; David Swanson ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Karen Aram ; Estabrook, Carl G Subject: FW: Gorsuch Hijacking Justice with the Feddies v. Judge Lawrence Walsh-- An American Hero: RIP Importance: High Sensitivity: Private Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _____________________________________________ From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 2:20 PM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: Gorsuch Hijacking Justice with the Feddies v. Judge Lawrence Walsh-- An American Hero: RIP Importance: High Sensitivity: Private Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _____________________________________________ From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:34 PM To: Killeacle > Subject: RIP:Judge Lawrence Walsh-- An American Hero Importance: High Sensitivity: Private Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E.Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, Illinois 61820 Phone: 217-333-7954 Fax: 217-244-1478 fboyle at law.uiuc.edu 9 September 1997 Memorandum TO: Robert H. Bork Federalist Society Dear Bob: Concerning your fund-raising letter of 28 August that just came to my attention, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for publicly associating me with a Lawyer and a Judge who has the principles, courage and integrity of Lawrence Walsh. For your information, that message and others like out were sent out all over the internet, not just to 30 professors, together with the full text of Judge Walsh's attack on the Federalist Society. Out of respect for Judge Walsh, I certainly do hope that my professorial colleagues will pay the most serious attention to what he had to say about the Federalist Society. After all, Judge Walsh is a pillar of the American Legal Establishment and of the Republican Party. As for myself, I have always been a political independent and resent your implication that I am a member of the Democrat Party. Be that as it may, it seems to me that you have only (once again!) made a fool of yourself by publicly attacking a Lawyer and a Judge with the courage, integrity and principles of Judge Walsh--characteristics that you yourself were not noted for as Solicitor General (when you fired Archie Cox, the first Special Prosecutor), during your tenure on the bench, or during your Supreme Court nomination hearings. Rather than publicly attacking Judge Walsh, I suggest that you personally as well as the Federalist Society institutionally should be giving the most serious consideration to what he had to say. Yours very truly, Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law cc: Judge Lawrence Walsh >From Iran-contra Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh, Firewall: According to the conventional wisdom, we were in a double bind: The judges appointed by Democratic presidents were supposedly most concerned with protecting the constitutional rights of persons prosecuted for crimes, while most of the other judges owed their appointments to Ronald Reagan or George Bush, who had stated publicly and emphatically that they hoped that North would not be convicted. Over the years, I had often found such simplistic views to be wrong. Most judges overcome the prejudices and alliances they had when appointed to the federal bench. During my three and one-half years on the federal district court in New York, I had experienced the merging process by which new judges are absorbed into their courts. My hard-line political and professional views had moderated during lunchroom conversations with Learned Hand, Jerome Frank, and Harold Medina and had dissolved after a couple of my decisions had been reversed on appeal. But I was concerned about the continuing political allegiance of Republican judges as manifested in the Federalist Society. Although the organization was not openly partisan, its dogma was political. It reminded me of the communist front groups of the 1940s and l950s, whose members were committed to the communist cause and subject to communist direction but were not card-carrying members of the Communist Party. In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, Ill. 61820 Phone: 217-333-7954 Fax: 217-244-1478 fboyle at law.uiuc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Mar 19 20:30:30 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 20:30:30 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Gorsuch Hijacking Justice with the Feddies v. Judge Lawrence Walsh-- An American Hero: RIP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And be sure to read Yale Law Mafia Don Akhil Amar's op-ed in today's Newspeak Times bootlicking Gorsuch. We are going to see all of the Elite Law Profs and Lawyers from HLS and YLS coming out in his support like Don Amar. Sure, let's put a kangaroo-courtier and a torture-mongerer on the Supremes. Baby! Baby! Baby don't leave me! Oh please don't leave me! All by myself!.... RIP: Chuck Berry. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _____________________________________________ From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 2:23 PM To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK ; Jay Becker ; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Hoffman, Valerie J ; Joe Lauria ; Miller, Joseph Thomas ; Szoke, Ron ; Dave Trippel ; Arlene Hickory ; David Swanson ; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne ; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Karen Aram ; Estabrook, Carl G Subject: FW: Gorsuch Hijacking Justice with the Feddies v. Judge Lawrence Walsh-- An American Hero: RIP Importance: High Sensitivity: Private Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _____________________________________________ From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 2:20 PM To: SECTNS.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: Gorsuch Hijacking Justice with the Feddies v. Judge Lawrence Walsh-- An American Hero: RIP Importance: High Sensitivity: Private Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _____________________________________________ From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:34 PM To: Killeacle > Subject: RIP:Judge Lawrence Walsh-- An American Hero Importance: High Sensitivity: Private Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E.Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, Illinois 61820 Phone: 217-333-7954 Fax: 217-244-1478 fboyle at law.uiuc.edu 9 September 1997 Memorandum TO: Robert H. Bork Federalist Society Dear Bob: Concerning your fund-raising letter of 28 August that just came to my attention, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for publicly associating me with a Lawyer and a Judge who has the principles, courage and integrity of Lawrence Walsh. For your information, that message and others like out were sent out all over the internet, not just to 30 professors, together with the full text of Judge Walsh's attack on the Federalist Society. Out of respect for Judge Walsh, I certainly do hope that my professorial colleagues will pay the most serious attention to what he had to say about the Federalist Society. After all, Judge Walsh is a pillar of the American Legal Establishment and of the Republican Party. As for myself, I have always been a political independent and resent your implication that I am a member of the Democrat Party. Be that as it may, it seems to me that you have only (once again!) made a fool of yourself by publicly attacking a Lawyer and a Judge with the courage, integrity and principles of Judge Walsh--characteristics that you yourself were not noted for as Solicitor General (when you fired Archie Cox, the first Special Prosecutor), during your tenure on the bench, or during your Supreme Court nomination hearings. Rather than publicly attacking Judge Walsh, I suggest that you personally as well as the Federalist Society institutionally should be giving the most serious consideration to what he had to say. Yours very truly, Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law cc: Judge Lawrence Walsh >From Iran-contra Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh, Firewall: According to the conventional wisdom, we were in a double bind: The judges appointed by Democratic presidents were supposedly most concerned with protecting the constitutional rights of persons prosecuted for crimes, while most of the other judges owed their appointments to Ronald Reagan or George Bush, who had stated publicly and emphatically that they hoped that North would not be convicted. Over the years, I had often found such simplistic views to be wrong. Most judges overcome the prejudices and alliances they had when appointed to the federal bench. During my three and one-half years on the federal district court in New York, I had experienced the merging process by which new judges are absorbed into their courts. My hard-line political and professional views had moderated during lunchroom conversations with Learned Hand, Jerome Frank, and Harold Medina and had dissolved after a couple of my decisions had been reversed on appeal. But I was concerned about the continuing political allegiance of Republican judges as manifested in the Federalist Society. Although the organization was not openly partisan, its dogma was political. It reminded me of the communist front groups of the 1940s and l950s, whose members were committed to the communist cause and subject to communist direction but were not card-carrying members of the Communist Party. In calling for the narrow construction of constitutional grants of governmental power, the Federalist Society seemed to speak for right-wing Republicans. I was especially troubled that one of White House Counsel Boyden Gray's assistants had openly declared that no one who was not a member of the Federalist Society had received a judicial appointment from President Bush. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, Ill. 61820 Phone: 217-333-7954 Fax: 217-244-1478 fboyle at law.uiuc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r-szoke at illinois.edu Sun Mar 19 21:17:13 2017 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:17:13 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The old twist & spin References: <4107a7ff-b0c2-4348-b56d-ecc22ba918e5@xtinp2mta4200.xt.local> Message-ID: <63F9F505-3DB7-4C4D-A678-7F2CC1B89313@illinois.edu> Here’s something about a sophism frequently used by Bibi N. of Israel & on Neptune, criticizing people for what they have not said or have not done. 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URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 19 23:18:06 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Critique of opiod epidemic References: <1779365744.4524267.1489965486228.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1779365744.4524267.1489965486228@mail.yahoo.com> I've pasted below an informative and skeptical article about the opioid epidemic from Counterpunch, as well as my query to the author and his response. I must admit I've been gullible about the data on the opioid epidemic (which of course relates to Rust Belt counties that voted for Trump), and Sal Rodriguez offers an appropriate antidote, so to speak, that should be of great interest to the activist community. DG ____________________ March 17, 2017 ManufacturedOpioid Crisis: a Ploy to Salvage the War on Drugs by Sal Rodriguez In case you haven’t heard,there’s an opioid crisis in America.With majorities of Americans now clearly supportive of marijuana legalization, opioids,a class of drugs used for thousands of years to treat pain and other ailments,have become the latest target of drug warriors and do-gooders alike.“Our nation is in the throes ofa heroin and opioid epidemic,” Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Wednesday.“Overdose deaths more than tripled between 2010 and 2014.  Accordingto the CDC, about 140 Americans on average now die from a drug overdose eachday. That means every three weeks, we are losing as many American lives todrug overdoses as we lost in the 9/11 attacks.”Indeed, according to theCenters for Disease Control and Prevention, more than 33,000 Americans lost their lives in 2015 dueto opioid-related overdoses, including 12,989 deaths associated specificallywith heroin.Candidate Donald Trump suggested, of course, a border wall would help solve the problem,while President Trump has complained America is a “drug-infested”country where “drugs are becoming cheaper than candy bars.”On the other side of the aisle,Democratic Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia has gone so far as to call fora new war on drugs to combat apparent problem ofopioid use, abuse and overdoses.With so many Americans dying,it’s important to clarify a few things about opioids, the folly of knee-jerkgovernment reaction and the need for harm reduction.Theexaggerated danger of opioidsDespite their reputation,opioids are neither especially addictive nor dangerous on their own.Research has consistently shownthat few individuals who are prescribed opioids ever actually develop a problemwith them.  A 2016 study by Castlight Health, Inc. suggested only about 4.5 percent of individuals who receive opioidprescriptions are abusers. A 2010 Cochrane review of 26 studies found reports of opioidaddiction in only 0.27 percent of patients.Meanwhile, guidelines issued bythe CDC in 2016 for prescribing opioids for chonic pain cited another studywhich followed chronic pain patients who received opioid prescriptions for 13years. The study found that “one in 550 patients died from opioid-relatedoverdose” over the 13 years, which upon reflection is a remarkably low rateconsidering the demographic involved.As for the dangerousness ofopioids, one variable often left out in discussions of opioid overdose is thefact that opioid overdoses tend to involve multiple drugs.A 2014 report from the CDCbased on nationwide emergency room data noted that alcohol was involved in 22.1percent of deaths related to opioid pain relievers, but conceded the figurecould be higher, given wide varieties in how states and localities collect andreport toxicology data.Other, more focused studieshave found incredibly high rates of drug mixing at play in opioid overdoses. A2015 paper looking into opioid overdoses in SanFrancisco from 2010-2012 found that 74.9 percent of opioid overdosedeaths involved other drugs, including cocaine (35.3 percent), benzodiazepines(27.5 percent) and alcohol (19.6 percent). Likewise, data from the New York City Department ofHealth and Mental Hygiene noted that “nearly all (97 percent) overdose deathsinvolved more than one substance.”With respect to heroinspecifically, as a 2003 article published in the Journal of UrbanHealth explained, “The overwhelming majority of overdoses, both fatal andnonfatal, involved the concomitant consumption of heroin with other drugs. Theextensiveness of polydrug use among ‘heroin’ over-doses suggests that ‘polydrugtoxicity’ is a better description of the toxicology of overdose.”Rarely do mainstream mediareports of the opioid crisis mention the prevalence of polydrug toxicity –except for the occasional surge in excitement over fentanyl, a highly potent opioid whichunscrupulous drug dealers sometimes put into heroin to strengthen its effects.(Naturally, the mixture of fentanyl with heroin is more an unintendedconsequence of prohibitionist drug policies and a resistance to harm reductionapproaches than anything else.)Of course, it is much morepolitically lucrative to exaggerate the risk and danger of opioids than toacknowledge the relatively low risk of addiction and the likelihood that harmreduction efforts (like warnings against mixing opioids with other drugs) mightsave lives.Governmentpolicies turned people to heroinAs the prescription and use ofopioids surged in the first decade of the 2000s, so too did the number ofpeople seeking addiction treatment and experiencing overdoses. Rather than takea measured approach, government officials instead pursued policies aimed at restricting access toprescription painkillers, criminalizing and arresting doctors and patients inthe process.The continued rise in overdosedeaths only indicates these approaches haven’t worked to curtail abuse or deathfrom opioid use and misuse.Instead, individuals whopreviously used pharmaceutical opioids have increasingly been pushed towardsheroin use, with heroin use in the United States the highest its been in 20 years.  Accordingto the Drug Policy Alliance, “Ninety-four percent of opioid-addictedindividuals who switched from prescription opioids to heroin reported doing sobecause prescription opioids ‘were far more expensive and harder to obtain.’”Of course, for people who haveswitched from pharmaceuticals to heroin due to lack of access to legal painmedication, or those who abuse either pharmaceuticals or heroin for whateverreason, government policy has only made them less safe.And there’s plenty of reason tobelieve government policies have only made opioid and heroin use less safe thanbefore. The increased number of deaths reported in 2016 happened despite decreases in the number of opioidprescriptions and the number of heroin users.HarmreductionDespite the well-documentedrole of polydruguse opioid overdoses, it’s unlikely we’ll see proclamations fromJeff Sessions or Trump or any other prominent politicians warning people toengage in harm reduction when using opioids by foregoing alcohol,benzodiazepines or any other contraindicated drug that could heighten the riskof harm or death from opioid use.Other ideas include gettingallowing individuals with chronic pain to access the medication they needwithout criminalizing their ailment or threatening their doctors withprosecution. Or allowing the operation of safe injection sites and expanding access tomedication-assisted treatment and access to syringe exchange programs andnaloxone, which can effectively reverse opioid overdoses.Of course, a border wall won’tsolve the problems associated with opioid use and abuse, nor will an expansionor perpetuation of prohibitionist policies. Yet, Trump’s budget proposalincludes $175 million in increased expenditures for the Department of Justice“to target the worst of the worst criminal organizations and drug traffickersin order to address violent crime, gun-related deaths, and the opioidepidemic.” It also, of course, includes calls for billions of dollars for hisbeloved wall. Furthermore, Jeff Sessions’ public proclamations have overemphasized the role ofenforcement and drug abuse prevention ideas from the ’80s and ’90s.Alas, the nation’s massiveanti-drug bureaucracies and agencies need some way to stay afloat, even thoughtheir entire mission is predicated on the fraudulent idea that drug prohibitionand enforcement will keep Americans safe and drug-free. Anti-drug crusadespredicated on saving people from themselves or sinister chemicals may bedressed up in good intentions, but as history has shown, they are little morethan ruses to further expand government intervention in our lives and bloat thebudgets of government agencies. Sal Rodriguez is acontributing writer at Solitary Watch. He writes frequently oncriminal justice reform and can be reached at:sal.solitary at gmail.com    Hi Sal, Thank you for the informed and enlightened article onCounterpunch. I must admit I've taken he bait, so to speak. But I have wondered about the color-coded maps that highlightcounties with increased opioid overdose deaths. I think they're likelydeceptive, because they are often large area counties with low populations.They never give you an idea of the proportion of U.S. population that lives inthese counties.  For example: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/07/us/drug-overdose-deaths-in-the-us.html?_r=0 Regards, David Green Hi David,Thanks for writing. I think you're correct that there is something deceptivewith the color-coding in that it reflects large/low-populated areas aparticular prominence, in much the same way maps that show, for example,electoral breakdowns where one is left with the impression that Republicans orDemocrats are overwhelmingly popular. (These are the sort of maps I'm talkingabout: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/ dec/04/mike-pence/mike-pence-says-donald-trump-won-most- counties-rep/ )Such maps are revealing something - but naturally we have todig deeper to really get a sense of things.For one, there's no doubt more people are dying than before.Part of this is because the period between 2003 and 2014(the period covered by the color-coded maps) there were increases in thenumbers of both people prescribed opioids and people using heroin. Naturally, alarger set of people engaging in certain risky behaviors will lead to greaternumbers of people subject to risks.But then we get to some of the points I raised in myarticle. We have a lot of people shifting from prescription opioids to the black marketas a direct result of government efforts to, as the article you linked stated,"address the misuse of prescription painkillers" - which is to say,setting caps on the number of prescriptions/numbers of pills and arresting doctorsand pharmacists in the process.As we have more total numbers of people using opioids forrecreation or legitimate reasons, we also have a larger set of people who areat risk of avoidable issues like drinking alcohol or taking benzodiazepines orother drugs which put them at risk of opioid overdoses. Reviewing the CDC's ownwebsite on the epidemic, they bury information about the problems of drugmixing. https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/epidemic/And then we have the problem of more people entering theblack market - and the risk of unscrupulous drug dealers adding fentanyl toheroin; and the perennial problem of street heroin varying widely in purity. So, those maps are telling us something,but not as much as we need to really drill down into what's going right andwrong. Regards,Sal  -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brussel at illinois.edu Mon Mar 20 00:02:14 2017 From: brussel at illinois.edu (Brussel, Morton K) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:02:14 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?Chris_Hedges_=E2=80=93_Episode_78?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9FB37A96-43A5-4165-BFDC-41D0755FE435@illinois.edu> I was somewhat disappointed that the issue of military conflicts were not discussed, especially the threats to Russia, Iran, N. Korea, China, and just what can be expected, especially with respect to the increasing military pressures upon Russia via Ukraine and NATO. > On Mar 16, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > A very worthwhile podcast, with Eric Draitser interviewing Chris Hedges, explaining why some of us don’t support the two party system of the “Deep State." > > I don’t particularly agree with everything stated, such as “taking on China as opposed to Russia because they’re white” or because “Bannon is a racist.” The powers that be now referred to as the “Deep State,” have been planning control of Eurasia since WW2 if not before. > Its geopolitical with China having time on their side, while Russia will be weaker after Syria and Iran’s power is destroyed, and after China is weakened. > This has been suggested by William Blum as well. > > Please see: > > https://store.counterpunch.org/chris-hedges-episode-78/ > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From brussel at illinois.edu Mon Mar 20 00:02:14 2017 From: brussel at illinois.edu (Brussel, Morton K) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:02:14 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?Chris_Hedges_=E2=80=93_Episode_78?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9FB37A96-43A5-4165-BFDC-41D0755FE435@illinois.edu> I was somewhat disappointed that the issue of military conflicts were not discussed, especially the threats to Russia, Iran, N. Korea, China, and just what can be expected, especially with respect to the increasing military pressures upon Russia via Ukraine and NATO. > On Mar 16, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > A very worthwhile podcast, with Eric Draitser interviewing Chris Hedges, explaining why some of us don’t support the two party system of the “Deep State." > > I don’t particularly agree with everything stated, such as “taking on China as opposed to Russia because they’re white” or because “Bannon is a racist.” The powers that be now referred to as the “Deep State,” have been planning control of Eurasia since WW2 if not before. > Its geopolitical with China having time on their side, while Russia will be weaker after Syria and Iran’s power is destroyed, and after China is weakened. > This has been suggested by William Blum as well. > > Please see: > > https://store.counterpunch.org/chris-hedges-episode-78/ > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From galliher at illinois.edu Mon Mar 20 01:55:09 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 20:55:09 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?Chris_Hedges_=E2=80=93_Episode_78?= In-Reply-To: <9FB37A96-43A5-4165-BFDC-41D0755FE435@illinois.edu> References: <9FB37A96-43A5-4165-BFDC-41D0755FE435@illinois.edu> Message-ID: An assessment of military forces: >. > On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss wrote: > > I was somewhat disappointed that the issue of military conflicts were not discussed, especially the threats to Russia, Iran, N. Korea, China, and just what can be expected, especially with respect to the increasing military pressures upon Russia via Ukraine and NATO. > > >> On Mar 16, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> A very worthwhile podcast, with Eric Draitser interviewing Chris Hedges, explaining why some of us don’t support the two party system of the “Deep State." >> >> I don’t particularly agree with everything stated, such as “taking on China as opposed to Russia because they’re white” or because “Bannon is a racist.” The powers that be now referred to as the “Deep State,” have been planning control of Eurasia since WW2 if not before. >> Its geopolitical with China having time on their side, while Russia will be weaker after Syria and Iran’s power is destroyed, and after China is weakened. >> This has been suggested by William Blum as well. >> >> Please see: >> >> https://store.counterpunch.org/chris-hedges-episode-78/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Mon Mar 20 01:55:09 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 20:55:09 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?Chris_Hedges_=E2=80=93_Episode_78?= In-Reply-To: <9FB37A96-43A5-4165-BFDC-41D0755FE435@illinois.edu> References: <9FB37A96-43A5-4165-BFDC-41D0755FE435@illinois.edu> Message-ID: An assessment of military forces: >. > On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss wrote: > > I was somewhat disappointed that the issue of military conflicts were not discussed, especially the threats to Russia, Iran, N. Korea, China, and just what can be expected, especially with respect to the increasing military pressures upon Russia via Ukraine and NATO. > > >> On Mar 16, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> A very worthwhile podcast, with Eric Draitser interviewing Chris Hedges, explaining why some of us don’t support the two party system of the “Deep State." >> >> I don’t particularly agree with everything stated, such as “taking on China as opposed to Russia because they’re white” or because “Bannon is a racist.” The powers that be now referred to as the “Deep State,” have been planning control of Eurasia since WW2 if not before. >> Its geopolitical with China having time on their side, while Russia will be weaker after Syria and Iran’s power is destroyed, and after China is weakened. >> This has been suggested by William Blum as well. >> >> Please see: >> >> https://store.counterpunch.org/chris-hedges-episode-78/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Mon Mar 20 02:12:12 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:12:12 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The old twist & spin In-Reply-To: <63F9F505-3DB7-4C4D-A678-7F2CC1B89313@illinois.edu> References: <4107a7ff-b0c2-4348-b56d-ecc22ba918e5@xtinp2mta4200.xt.local> <63F9F505-3DB7-4C4D-A678-7F2CC1B89313@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Do you have an example of this “sophism frequently used … on [News from] Neptune”? When have we "criticized people [Obama, do you mean?] for what they have not said or have not done”? We certainly criticized him for not ending his multiple wars and his drone killings. And we criticize the new administration for the same things. —CGE > On Mar 19, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > Here’s something about a sophism frequently used by Bibi N. of Israel & on Neptune, criticizing people for what they have not said or have not done. > >> From: NPR >> Subject: NPR.org - Trump Embraces One Of Russia's Favorite Propaganda Tactics — Whataboutism >> Date: March 19, 2017 at 4:04:28 PM CDT >> >> r-szoke at illinois.edu has sent you the following story: Trump Embraces One Of Russia's Favorite Propaganda Tactics — Whataboutism >> >> >> R S thought you would be interested in this story >> Message: F Y I >> Trump Embraces One Of Russia's Favorite Propaganda Tactics — Whataboutism >> What's the easiest way to swing back at critics? For Trump (as well as Putin), it's to cry "hypocrite." >> >> Read this story >> >> >> This email was sent by: NPR,1111 N. Capitol St. NE Washington, DC, 20002, United States. This message was sent to r-szoke at illinois.edu. > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From galliher at illinois.edu Mon Mar 20 09:49:42 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 04:49:42 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] God! Man at Yale... In-Reply-To: References: <7D39A6AC-5E71-438E-B770-0D89136D2DE1@illinois.edu> <016AA1A7-2EE3-42B1-A60A-6A38D0A813F6@illinois.edu> <5ACB3952-EE33-49F6-8D32-D39ECBE70388@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <8E955C14-BE72-4C60-9E60-2587E0D4CEBE@illinois.edu> (With apologies, if appropriate, to William Buckley, author of “God and Man at Yale,” 1951.) “Most of the world is just collapsing in laughter” on claims that Russia intervened in the US election, says Noam Chomsky: . But not a humorless Yale historian who says that Russia invaded - and now occupies - the US! Hunter Thompson used to call this 'bad craziness’: >. —CGE P.S. - I’m reminded of a dangerous anti-climax, given Yale as a primary recruiting-ground for the CIA: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PastedGraphic-1.tiff Type: image/tiff Size: 70252 bytes Desc: not available URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Mar 20 12:12:16 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:12:16 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?Chris_Hedges_=E2=80=93_Episode_78?= In-Reply-To: <9FB37A96-43A5-4165-BFDC-41D0755FE435@illinois.edu> References: <9FB37A96-43A5-4165-BFDC-41D0755FE435@illinois.edu> Message-ID: I understand your disappointment Morton. The issue of military conflicts are my major concern as well. However, given so much focus on “electoral politics” and assumptions that “one Party is better than the other within our two Party system” it’s important to understand that there is little difference, specifically in respect to foreign policy, and why. > On Mar 19, 2017, at 17:02, Brussel, Morton K wrote: > > I was somewhat disappointed that the issue of military conflicts were not discussed, especially the threats to Russia, Iran, N. Korea, China, and just what can be expected, especially with respect to the increasing military pressures upon Russia via Ukraine and NATO. > > >> On Mar 16, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> A very worthwhile podcast, with Eric Draitser interviewing Chris Hedges, explaining why some of us don’t support the two party system of the “Deep State." >> >> I don’t particularly agree with everything stated, such as “taking on China as opposed to Russia because they’re white” or because “Bannon is a racist.” The powers that be now referred to as the “Deep State,” have been planning control of Eurasia since WW2 if not before. >> Its geopolitical with China having time on their side, while Russia will be weaker after Syria and Iran’s power is destroyed, and after China is weakened. >> This has been suggested by William Blum as well. >> >> Please see: >> >> https://store.counterpunch.org/chris-hedges-episode-78/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Mar 20 12:12:16 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:12:16 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?Chris_Hedges_=E2=80=93_Episode_78?= In-Reply-To: <9FB37A96-43A5-4165-BFDC-41D0755FE435@illinois.edu> References: <9FB37A96-43A5-4165-BFDC-41D0755FE435@illinois.edu> Message-ID: I understand your disappointment Morton. The issue of military conflicts are my major concern as well. However, given so much focus on “electoral politics” and assumptions that “one Party is better than the other within our two Party system” it’s important to understand that there is little difference, specifically in respect to foreign policy, and why. > On Mar 19, 2017, at 17:02, Brussel, Morton K wrote: > > I was somewhat disappointed that the issue of military conflicts were not discussed, especially the threats to Russia, Iran, N. Korea, China, and just what can be expected, especially with respect to the increasing military pressures upon Russia via Ukraine and NATO. > > >> On Mar 16, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> A very worthwhile podcast, with Eric Draitser interviewing Chris Hedges, explaining why some of us don’t support the two party system of the “Deep State." >> >> I don’t particularly agree with everything stated, such as “taking on China as opposed to Russia because they’re white” or because “Bannon is a racist.” The powers that be now referred to as the “Deep State,” have been planning control of Eurasia since WW2 if not before. >> Its geopolitical with China having time on their side, while Russia will be weaker after Syria and Iran’s power is destroyed, and after China is weakened. >> This has been suggested by William Blum as well. >> >> Please see: >> >> https://store.counterpunch.org/chris-hedges-episode-78/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Mar 20 16:15:11 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:15:11 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Crosstalk today Message-ID: Good show, ideas and points of view expressed. However, I am disappointed with the focus on "he said, she said". Surely no one takes anything that Rex Tillersen or Nicki Haylee have to say. When discussing N. Korea, they only focused on the conversation being “smoke and mirrors," not taking into account the placement of THAAD in S. Korea with its missiles pointed at China, N. Korea and the tip of Russia. All further provocations of China and friends. https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/381353-trump-candidate-president-opposition/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Mar 20 16:15:11 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:15:11 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Crosstalk today Message-ID: Good show, ideas and points of view expressed. However, I am disappointed with the focus on "he said, she said". Surely no one takes anything that Rex Tillersen or Nicki Haylee have to say. When discussing N. Korea, they only focused on the conversation being “smoke and mirrors," not taking into account the placement of THAAD in S. Korea with its missiles pointed at China, N. Korea and the tip of Russia. All further provocations of China and friends. https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/381353-trump-candidate-president-opposition/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It had revenues of $60 billion, and a profit of $36 billion in 2016.And its market value is estimated at over $160 billion. Now Mobileye is an Israeli technology company specializing in sensors for safe driving in cars, such as sensors that make sounds when the car is swerving, speeding, or about to strike an object. This technology is also designed to assist in building self-driving cars, as well. Let's hear about how the deal was described by Israeli correspondent for "The Marker" magazine, Israel Fischer.ISRAEL FISCHER: That's a vote of confidence for the Israeli tech industry. For a bit less than $15 billion, that's by far the biggest deal for the Israeli tech industry. Just a few years ago when Google bought Waze for a bit more than $1 billion that was huge news here in Israel, but now for $15 billion that's very big news and very big success for Israel.KIM BROWN: Well, joining us now to give some more analysis and insight into this deal we're joined by our Real News Correspondent, Shir Hever, who is on the line from Heidelberg, Germany. Sher, thanks for being here.SHIR HEVER: Thank you very much, Kim.KIM BROWN: So, Shir what are the reactions in Israel to this deal? Because on one hand, the merger is a major investment in the Israeli economy, but on the other hand, Israel just lost one of its largest private corporations, which became part of Intel. What are the reactions this morning coming out of Israel?SHIR HEVER: The Israeli high tech industry is very exit-oriented. And I think not a lot of people expected Mobileye or any other company in Israel actually to try to stay an independent company. The greatest aspiration of most Israeli companies is to be bought by some multinational corporation like Intel in this case. And so, the responses within Israel are pretty unanimous. And even Prime Minister Netanyahu held a press conference with the CEO of Intel and with Mobileye to celebrate this deal and already announced that the Israeli Minister of Transportation is going to require new cars in Israel to have Mobileye systems in them.KIM BROWN: Now, Intel has a long history in Israel. It has established a factory in a section of the country in 1996. And eventually became the largest private employer in the nation. So, why did Intel choose to invest in Israel?SHIR HEVER: For Intel, they have factories all around the world. And specifically, in Israel that's not necessarily the best place for them to go open factories. But over the last couple of decades the Israeli government paid hundreds of millions of dollars to Intel in a series of grants to convince Intel to open a factory in the small town of Kiryat Gat, which is a very impoverished town in Israel, in order to help with the unemployment there, and to create jobs, and so on. And this move has been very criticized within Israel -- why does the government spends hundreds of millions of dollars for a private company, basically giving them a present? Rather than invest this money in the population directly and helping people find jobs and start their own businesses, and so on? And over the last decades the government continued to support Intel. So, Intel made a very easy decision to stay in Israel. For Israel, this was not just an economic policy, it was a political policy as well. It's very important for the Israeli government to be able to say this international corporation has a foothold in Israel. It shows that Israel is a technological leader. So, they would lose face if Intel would choose to close the factory. And now, this decision of Intel to buy Mobileye, in many ways sort of justifies this policy of the Israeli government because all this money that they gave to Intel for free, maybe contributed to the decision of the company to buy Mobileye.KIM BROWN: So, as for the company Mobileye, their technology is directed at reducing the risk of car accidents. So, why does an Israeli company choose to focus on this kind of technology?SHIR HEVER: Israel used to suffer from a plague of car accidents. Very, very high number of deaths on the roads compared to other countries. The leading country in the world, in some types of car accidents, for example, hitting pedestrians on the sidewalk. And a correspondent, Michelle Roshafsky, who has spoken frequently on The Real News, used to say that the Israeli drivers they cause all of these accidents because they live in a culture where there are no borders. And in the same way that the state of Israel doesn't recognize its own border, then expands, so do drivers sometimes swerve to the wrong lanes, and so on. But, over the last two decades, there's been a big change. And this change in the car driving culture in Israel, and the rate of car accidents and deaths, is quite dramatic. According to the World Health Organization data, in 2013 Israel was among the 25 countries in the world with the lowest number of deaths per capita. And in fact, the chance of dying in a car accident in the United States is four times higher than it is in Israel. So, that's a very big difference.And the way that they achieved that, the way that Israel changed is very telling about Israeli political culture. Because instead of addressing the actual causes of why people were driving recklessly, and disregarding the risks, they used technology as a kind of solution to circumvent the problem, to try to find technological solutions. And this is something that we see in Israel with a lot of political issues. Instead of addressing the cause of Palestinian anger and resistance to the Israeli occupation, more sophisticated technologies are installed in order to control the Palestinians and keep them in check. And in the same way, car accidents were dealt with technology instead of with education, for example, and with some amount of success. Mobileye Company then produces specifically this kind of technology. Rather than trying to deal with the question of how to teach people how to drive safely, to not to drive when they're tired, and so on. Instead, the company produces these sensors that help the driver, and warn the driver, or even affect the car somewhat by slowing down the car when there is danger. This is a kind of technology that is very associated with Israeli type of technology.KIM BROWN: So, Shir what is the economic significance of this deal to Israel's economy? I mean, what will Intel do with Mobileye and how much of this money will reach the public in Israel?SHIR HEVER: According to the statements of Intel, they plan to keep Mobileye in place and even bring in their entire department for vehicles into Israel. And specifically, into Jerusalem which is very interesting because Jerusalem is not very well known for its high-tech industry. And one of the founders of Mobileye said this is actually an opportunity to incorporate into the Israeli technology sector populations that are normally excluded from the technology sector: which are Palestinians and ultra-Orthodox Jews. Now, in addition to that, we have the tax that Intel will have to pay for buying Mobileye because they have paid way more than the company's market value. So, that creates new value and they have to pay a tax on it of about over $1 billion. And this is also significant for the Israeli economy. But on that end at least the teams that this tax money is going to be wasted because the government has already announced that they just plan to have some tax cuts and let this tax boon be distributed to the rich inside Israel, rather than to be invested in a worthwhile cause.KIM BROWN: So, why did Intel decide to make this very large investment, spending about 10% of its own net worth to purchase Mobileye?SHIR HEVER: I think this is the central question, because for Intel they made some questionable investment decisions recently. For example, they bought the McAfee Company and then they regretted it and sold the company at a loss. Or half the company they sold it at a loss. So, why would Intel buy Mobileye? A company producing this kind of technology which is not unique, there are many companies around the world that produce similar technology. It's not like Mobileye has the patent or the unique technology for driver-assisting sensors. And Intel is focusing on that particular company and willing to pay at least a 50% premium on that company because, I think, Mobileye brings with it also some kind of prestige that Israeli high tech companies bring. This is interpreted as a victory for the Israeli propaganda for the Israeli image, that Intel chose to buy the company. So, the company was actually estimated at about $10 billion at most. It was actually worth only $5 billion three years ago. So, if it indeed increased in value to $10 billion that's quite impressive; to $15 billion that's not likely. But the three biggest owners of shares within the company, the three founders of the company, each own 7% of the stock. And I think this gives us a clue why the number $15 billion was chosen because then it makes all of these three shareholders billionaires. Each one of them just crosses the billion-threshold. And I think that convinced them that they should sell the company because to become a billionaire overnight is very nice. But this is only if you really believe that Israeli's have some kind of knack for technology that can save lives, and really do it better than any other company. And I'm not completely sure that Intel made the right choice. The only way that they can salvage this sort of deal and make a profit from it is if they manage to leverage this sort of prestige, use the Israeli prestige that Israeli companies have from the security industry, when they sell this kind of technology in other countries. And I'm not completely sure that customers around the world will be so keen to believe that, and to pay the extra premium.KIM BROWN: Alright, well we will certainly keep an eye on this deal, as I'm sure it will have more developments as it unfolds. We've been speaking with Real News correspondent, Shir Hever, from Heidelberg, Germany. Sher, we appreciate your reporting on this story, thank you.SHIR HEVER: Thank you very much, Kim.KIM BROWN: And thanks for watching The Real News Network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Mon Mar 20 20:53:14 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. 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Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote: http://www.janes.com/article/68766/russia-announces-deepest-defence-budget-cuts-since-1990s#pq=mp3rbv_______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Mar 21 00:57:05 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 00:57:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The Russian threat In-Reply-To: <1503581064.148366.1490051479386@mail.yahoo.com> References: <22E59BEC-8E3E-4854-B628-05AFDCB439EF@illinois.edu> <1503581064.148366.1490051479386@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My analysis off the top of my head: Looks as if Russia is failing to fall into our trap of depleting their budget, impoverishing their people, by placing all resources into “military weapons and war.” The Soviet Union did fall into our trap in 1979, Russia today with Putin is so much smarter. It looks as if we have fallen into our own trap. On Mar 20, 2017, at 16:11, David Green via Peace-discuss > wrote: So it looks like the entire Russian military budget is less than the proposed 10% increase in the U.S. budget. On Monday, March 20, 2017 3:53 PM, Carl G. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Mar 21 16:43:56 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:43:56 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] David Greens Letter in the NG, responding to a ridiculous Editorial by Jim Dey Message-ID: esday, March 21, 2017 52°F Today's Paper * News * Sports * Business * Living * A&E * Blogs * Opinion * Multimedia * Classified * Jobs * Shop * Weekly Ads Home » Opinion » Letters to the Editor Dey fails to see Israel's aggression Tue, 03/21/2017 - 5:18am | The News-Gazette This responds to Jim Dey's Feb. 28 column "You jerk! How dare you disagree with me?!" I doubt many students fit Dey's caricature of rudeness. Nevertheless, civility is to be desired in pursuit of informative political discourse. The irony presented by Dey, as usual, regards his jaundiced contribution regarding Israel. In 2014, he couched his opposition to academic freedom in terms of Steven Salaita's "anti-Israel" tweets. In the present case, Dey lobs a rhetorical Molotov cocktail into the divestment debate by asserting "Now bear in mind that Palestinians want to wipe Israel and all the people in it off the map." This is comparable to saying that in the 1930s, Poles wanted to wipe Germany and all its people off the map. Dey regularly shows that he is capable of committing investigative journalism. If he is interested in exploring the modern Middle East, he might start with Jewish Israeli historian Ilan Pappe's seminal "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine." The distinction between perpetrators and victims is as uncontroversial in this context as it was in Nazi Germany, or indeed in the "settlement" of our own country. In this context, I would also note that Jewish communal leaders have no authority to speak for Jews, as is often implied in local coverage. Specifically, the Chabad movement supports illegal Jewish settlements, while some other Jewish Orthodox sects do not. The same can be said for Jews of all religious and secular persuasions. Moreover, moral authority is based on a record of truthfulness, not official status. DAVID GREEN Champaign -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Mar 21 16:43:56 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:43:56 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] David Greens Letter in the NG, responding to a ridiculous Editorial by Jim Dey Message-ID: esday, March 21, 2017 52°F Today's Paper * News * Sports * Business * Living * A&E * Blogs * Opinion * Multimedia * Classified * Jobs * Shop * Weekly Ads Home » Opinion » Letters to the Editor Dey fails to see Israel's aggression Tue, 03/21/2017 - 5:18am | The News-Gazette This responds to Jim Dey's Feb. 28 column "You jerk! How dare you disagree with me?!" I doubt many students fit Dey's caricature of rudeness. Nevertheless, civility is to be desired in pursuit of informative political discourse. The irony presented by Dey, as usual, regards his jaundiced contribution regarding Israel. In 2014, he couched his opposition to academic freedom in terms of Steven Salaita's "anti-Israel" tweets. In the present case, Dey lobs a rhetorical Molotov cocktail into the divestment debate by asserting "Now bear in mind that Palestinians want to wipe Israel and all the people in it off the map." This is comparable to saying that in the 1930s, Poles wanted to wipe Germany and all its people off the map. Dey regularly shows that he is capable of committing investigative journalism. If he is interested in exploring the modern Middle East, he might start with Jewish Israeli historian Ilan Pappe's seminal "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine." The distinction between perpetrators and victims is as uncontroversial in this context as it was in Nazi Germany, or indeed in the "settlement" of our own country. In this context, I would also note that Jewish communal leaders have no authority to speak for Jews, as is often implied in local coverage. Specifically, the Chabad movement supports illegal Jewish settlements, while some other Jewish Orthodox sects do not. The same can be said for Jews of all religious and secular persuasions. Moreover, moral authority is based on a record of truthfulness, not official status. DAVID GREEN Champaign -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 17:07:38 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 17:07:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Russia vs. USA: Who is the Threat, Who is the Aggressor? (1/2) References: <709637897.6283048.1490116058684.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <709637897.6283048.1490116058684@mail.yahoo.com> JEFFREY TAYLER: Well, the real starting point would be the relationship between the U.S. President and President Putin, which had started off as a very good relationship, if you remember. Especially after September the 11th, when Putin was the first one to go on air, and express condolences and express his offer of full support to the United States, in whatever needed to do, after the attacks. But especially with President Obama. President Obama showed an astonishing lack of civility; in the way he expressed himself about Putin. He expressly called Putin, said he looks like a bored school boy sitting in the back of a classroom, who leads a regional country that doesn't produce anything anybody would want, and so on. And the relationship was clearly very hostile, and Russians took that very personally. It was a deliberate dissing of their leader, and Russians tend to have a default position in favor always of a strong leader. Their leader being kicked around, or being perceived as being insulted on the world stage by Obama, went down very poorly here. But the hostility in the relationship really does go back into specific actions that started with the Clinton administration expanding NATO, before Putin became president. But, you could also point to the 2011 intervention in Libya, in which the United States promised to Russia that it wasn't after regime change, that it was just going to going to establish a no-fly zone over Libya. And Gaddafi ended up brutally murdered. Russia vs. USA: Who is the Threat, Who is the Aggressor? (1/2) | | | | | | | | | | | Russia vs. USA: Who is the Threat, Who is the Aggressor? (1/2) By The Real News Network GOP and Democratic Party leaders and media pundits like Rachel Maddow are raising their anti-Russian rhetoric to... | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Mar 21 16:48:13 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:48:13 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] They printed my letter to the NG Message-ID: Home » Opinion » Letters to the Editor Close the prisons, treat the addicted Fri, 03/17/2017 - 7:00am | The News-Gazette Len Gingerich's recent letter suggesting the "undocumented" are crossing the borders of Arizona from Mexico to distribute illegal drugs to American communities is, as usual, targeting the "usual suspects," that being the poor and those unable to defend themselves. Associating the "undocumented" with drug dealers and criminals is a form of cruelty, vilifying those we wish to dispose of. If we seriously wish to eradicate this country's drug problems, we need to target those responsible for the distribution and their corporate masters. We need to end the drug wars and treat drug addiction as the health issue that it is, as was done successfully in Portugal. We need to stop the incarcerations and close down many, if not most, of the prisons across the nation. U.S. government involvement in the drug trade is well known as stated in the April 2016 Harper's article "Legalize It All" by Dan Baum, "White Out," in Counterpunch by Jeffrey St. Clair and Alfred McCoy's "The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia," 1974. And, of course, there's the Iran-Contra affair; see page 41 of the December 1988 Kerry Committee report to the U.S. Senate. KAREN ARAM Urbana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Mar 21 16:48:13 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:48:13 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] They printed my letter to the NG Message-ID: Home » Opinion » Letters to the Editor Close the prisons, treat the addicted Fri, 03/17/2017 - 7:00am | The News-Gazette Len Gingerich's recent letter suggesting the "undocumented" are crossing the borders of Arizona from Mexico to distribute illegal drugs to American communities is, as usual, targeting the "usual suspects," that being the poor and those unable to defend themselves. Associating the "undocumented" with drug dealers and criminals is a form of cruelty, vilifying those we wish to dispose of. If we seriously wish to eradicate this country's drug problems, we need to target those responsible for the distribution and their corporate masters. We need to end the drug wars and treat drug addiction as the health issue that it is, as was done successfully in Portugal. We need to stop the incarcerations and close down many, if not most, of the prisons across the nation. U.S. government involvement in the drug trade is well known as stated in the April 2016 Harper's article "Legalize It All" by Dan Baum, "White Out," in Counterpunch by Jeffrey St. Clair and Alfred McCoy's "The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia," 1974. And, of course, there's the Iran-Contra affair; see page 41 of the December 1988 Kerry Committee report to the U.S. Senate. KAREN ARAM Urbana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kmedina67 at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 18:09:00 2017 From: kmedina67 at gmail.com (kmedina67) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:09:00 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] They printed my letter to the NG Message-ID: <57sqndj9rcwb15ilq7be1vrx.1490119740778@email.android.com> Good job,  Karen Aram! Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message --------From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Date: 3/21/17 11:48 (GMT-06:00) To: Peace-discuss List , Peace Discuss Subject: [Peace-discuss] They printed my letter to the NG Home » Opinion » Letters to the Editor Close the prisons, treat the addicted Fri, 03/17/2017 - 7:00am | The News-Gazette Len Gingerich's recent letter suggesting the "undocumented" are crossing the borders of Arizona from Mexico to distribute illegal drugs to American communities is, as usual, targeting the "usual suspects," that being the poor and those unable to defend themselves. Associating the "undocumented" with drug dealers and criminals is a form of cruelty, vilifying those we wish to dispose of. If we seriously wish to eradicate this country's drug problems, we need to target those responsible for the distribution and their corporate masters. We need to end the drug wars and treat drug addiction as the health issue that it is, as was done successfully in Portugal. We need to stop the incarcerations and close down many, if not most, of the prisons across the nation. U.S. government involvement in the drug trade is well known as stated in the April 2016 Harper's article "Legalize It All" by Dan Baum, "White Out," in Counterpunch by Jeffrey St. Clair and Alfred McCoy's "The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia," 1974. And, of course, there's the Iran-Contra affair; see page 41 of the December 1988 Kerry Committee report to the U.S. Senate. KAREN ARAM Urbana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kmedina67 at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 18:09:00 2017 From: kmedina67 at gmail.com (kmedina67) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:09:00 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] They printed my letter to the NG Message-ID: <57sqndj9rcwb15ilq7be1vrx.1490119740778@email.android.com> Good job,  Karen Aram! Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message --------From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Date: 3/21/17 11:48 (GMT-06:00) To: Peace-discuss List , Peace Discuss Subject: [Peace-discuss] They printed my letter to the NG Home » Opinion » Letters to the Editor Close the prisons, treat the addicted Fri, 03/17/2017 - 7:00am | The News-Gazette Len Gingerich's recent letter suggesting the "undocumented" are crossing the borders of Arizona from Mexico to distribute illegal drugs to American communities is, as usual, targeting the "usual suspects," that being the poor and those unable to defend themselves. Associating the "undocumented" with drug dealers and criminals is a form of cruelty, vilifying those we wish to dispose of. If we seriously wish to eradicate this country's drug problems, we need to target those responsible for the distribution and their corporate masters. We need to end the drug wars and treat drug addiction as the health issue that it is, as was done successfully in Portugal. We need to stop the incarcerations and close down many, if not most, of the prisons across the nation. U.S. government involvement in the drug trade is well known as stated in the April 2016 Harper's article "Legalize It All" by Dan Baum, "White Out," in Counterpunch by Jeffrey St. Clair and Alfred McCoy's "The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia," 1974. And, of course, there's the Iran-Contra affair; see page 41 of the December 1988 Kerry Committee report to the U.S. Senate. KAREN ARAM Urbana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Tue Mar 21 18:22:26 2017 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:22:26 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] They printed my letter to the NG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <011601d2a270$17f402b0$47dc0810$@comcast.net> EXCELLENT letter Karen ! Short, sweet, and right to the heart of the matter. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:48 AM To: Peace-discuss List; Peace Discuss Subject: [Peace-discuss] They printed my letter to the NG Home » Opinion » Letters to the Editor Close the prisons, treat the addicted Fri, 03/17/2017 - 7:00am | The News-Gazette Len Gingerich's recent letter suggesting the "undocumented" are crossing the borders of Arizona from Mexico to distribute illegal drugs to American communities is, as usual, targeting the "usual suspects," that being the poor and those unable to defend themselves. Associating the "undocumented" with drug dealers and criminals is a form of cruelty, vilifying those we wish to dispose of. If we seriously wish to eradicate this country's drug problems, we need to target those responsible for the distribution and their corporate masters. We need to end the drug wars and treat drug addiction as the health issue that it is, as was done successfully in Portugal. We need to stop the incarcerations and close down many, if not most, of the prisons across the nation. U.S. government involvement in the drug trade is well known as stated in the April 2016 Harper's article "Legalize It All" by Dan Baum, "White Out," in Counterpunch by Jeffrey St. Clair and Alfred McCoy's "The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia," 1974. And, of course, there's the Iran-Contra affair; see page 41 of the December 1988 Kerry Committee report to the U.S. Senate. KAREN ARAM Urbana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:44 AM To: Peace-discuss List; Peace Discuss Subject: [Peace-discuss] David Greens Letter in the NG, responding to a ridiculous Editorial by Jim Dey esday, March 21, 2017 52°F Today's Paper · News · Sports · Business · Living · A&E · Blogs · Opinion · Multimedia · Classified · Jobs · Shop · Weekly Ads Home » Opinion » Letters to the Editor Dey fails to see Israel's aggression Tue, 03/21/2017 - 5:18am | The News-Gazette This responds to Jim Dey's Feb. 28 column "You jerk! How dare you disagree with me?!" I doubt many students fit Dey's caricature of rudeness. Nevertheless, civility is to be desired in pursuit of informative political discourse. The irony presented by Dey, as usual, regards his jaundiced contribution regarding Israel. In 2014, he couched his opposition to academic freedom in terms of Steven Salaita's "anti-Israel" tweets. In the present case, Dey lobs a rhetorical Molotov cocktail into the divestment debate by asserting "Now bear in mind that Palestinians want to wipe Israel and all the people in it off the map." This is comparable to saying that in the 1930s, Poles wanted to wipe Germany and all its people off the map. Dey regularly shows that he is capable of committing investigative journalism. If he is interested in exploring the modern Middle East, he might start with Jewish Israeli historian Ilan Pappe's seminal "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine." The distinction between perpetrators and victims is as uncontroversial in this context as it was in Nazi Germany, or indeed in the "settlement" of our own country. In this context, I would also note that Jewish communal leaders have no authority to speak for Jews, as is often implied in local coverage. Specifically, the Chabad movement supports illegal Jewish settlements, while some other Jewish Orthodox sects do not. The same can be said for Jews of all religious and secular persuasions. Moreover, moral authority is based on a record of truthfulness, not official status. DAVID GREEN Champaign -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Untitled attachment 00184.txt URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Mar 22 00:57:36 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 19:57:36 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth Message-ID: https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/21/a-breach-in-the-anti-putin-groupthink/ “For 25 years, Republicans and Democrats have acted in ways that look much the same to Moscow. Washington has pursued policies that have ignored Russian interests (and sometimes international law as well) in order to encircle Moscow with military alliances and trade blocs conducive to U.S. interests. It is no wonder that Russia pushes back. The wonder is that the U.S. policy elite doesn’t get this, even as foreign-affairs neophyte Trump apparently does… "[This article] details all the errors and stupidities of the Obama administration in its handling of Russia and Putin, faulting President Obama and Secretary of State (and later presidential candidate) Hillary Clinton for all of their provocative and insensitive [sic] words and deeds. What we see in U.S. policy ... is the application of double standards, a prosecutorial stance towards Russia, and outrageous lies about the country and its leadership foisted on the American public.” —CGE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Mar 22 01:15:00 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 01:15:00 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Carl: With all due respect to you: Yes, I took out a subscription to Foreign Affairs when I was getting my PHD in international political science from Harvard. I dropped it years ago when FA was taken over by a Gang of Zionist NeoCon Imperial Thugs. It is not worth wrapping fish in. But if I had FA on a Boy Scout camping trip, I guess I could use it as toilet paper. fab. Eagle Scout Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:58 PM To: Peace-discuss List ; peace Cc: prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net Subject: [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/21/a-breach-in-the-anti-putin-groupthink/ “For 25 years, Republicans and Democrats have acted in ways that look much the same to Moscow. Washington has pursued policies that have ignored Russian interests (and sometimes international law as well) in order to encircle Moscow with military alliances and trade blocs conducive to U.S. interests. It is no wonder that Russia pushes back. The wonder is that the U.S. policy elite doesn’t get this, even as foreign-affairs neophyte Trump apparently does… "[This article] details all the errors and stupidities of the Obama administration in its handling of Russia and Putin, faulting President Obama and Secretary of State (and later presidential candidate) Hillary Clinton for all of their provocative and insensitive [sic] words and deeds. What we see in U.S. policy ... is the application of double standards, a prosecutorial stance towards Russia, and outrageous lies about the country and its leadership foisted on the American public.” —CGE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Mar 22 01:44:57 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 01:44:57 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth References: Message-ID: And ditto for Foreign Policy. FP was founded by and paid for by the Ford Foundation, a well known front organization for the CIA. Fab. Eagle Scout Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15 PM To: Estabrook, Carl G ; Peace-discuss List Cc: prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net Subject: RE: [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth Dear Carl: With all due respect to you: Yes, I took out a subscription to Foreign Affairs when I was getting my PHD in international political science from Harvard. I dropped it years ago when FA was taken over by a Gang of Zionist NeoCon Imperial Thugs. It is not worth wrapping fish in. But if I had FA on a Boy Scout camping trip, I guess I could use it as toilet paper. fab. Eagle Scout Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:58 PM To: Peace-discuss List >; peace > Cc: prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net Subject: [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/21/a-breach-in-the-anti-putin-groupthink/ “For 25 years, Republicans and Democrats have acted in ways that look much the same to Moscow. Washington has pursued policies that have ignored Russian interests (and sometimes international law as well) in order to encircle Moscow with military alliances and trade blocs conducive to U.S. interests. It is no wonder that Russia pushes back. The wonder is that the U.S. policy elite doesn’t get this, even as foreign-affairs neophyte Trump apparently does… "[This article] details all the errors and stupidities of the Obama administration in its handling of Russia and Putin, faulting President Obama and Secretary of State (and later presidential candidate) Hillary Clinton for all of their provocative and insensitive [sic] words and deeds. What we see in U.S. policy ... is the application of double standards, a prosecutorial stance towards Russia, and outrageous lies about the country and its leadership foisted on the American public.” —CGE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Mar 22 02:18:31 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:18:31 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] 2nd half of AWARE ON THE AIR for Tuesday 21 March In-Reply-To: References: <749FD578-B4D6-4CE3-8B2F-F757C48926C5@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Jason— Thanks for the heads-up, and even more for all your skillful work in keeping AWARE ON THE AIR (and much else) in fact ON THE AIR. It’s a pleasure to work with UPTV. —CGE PS - I’m taking the liberty of sending this announcement to other AWAREists. Hope you don't mind. > On Mar 21, 2017, at 7:57 PM, Liggett, Jason wrote: > > Hi Carl, > > We are having issues with our broadcast server which started this afternoon. I haven’t found a solution yet. As of right now, we are still on the air, but it is scheduled to play last week’s episode of AWARE and won’t let us log in to change it to this week’s. We did, however, upload the program you recorded today to YouTube - https://youtu.be/jwKFbX6yLj8 > > I hope to have the issue resolved so this week’s program will air tomorrow night at 11PM on UPTV. Sorry for the inconvenience. > > Jason > > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu ] > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:49 PM > To: Liggett, Jason; Jokash7 at gmail.com > Subject: 2nd half of AWARE ON THE AIR for Tuesday 21 March > > I announced this as a video on “whistle-blowers.” > > It’s in fact on the leading whistle-blower of the 19th century, Karl Marx, who died in March of 1883: > > >. > > It’s 35 minutes - but be careful of the ad at the beginning. > > The principal topics of today’s program otherwise were > > ~ US murder in Yemen; > ~ anti-Russian hysteria, encouraged by both Republicans and Democrats: > ~ the new administration’s resistance to war with Russia and China. > > —CGE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Mar 22 02:31:51 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:31:51 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1C2C0ABD-CDB5-4A00-BB0A-F8C60C6910D2@illinois.edu> My principal objection to the Consortium News account of the Foreign Affairs article is that it refers to "the *errors and stupidities* of the Obama administration in its handling of Russia and Putin,” when a far better description would be *lies and crimes.* But we should be thankful for any cracks in the facade. Some light gets through. —CGE > On Mar 21, 2017, at 8:44 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > And ditto for Foreign Policy. FP was founded by and paid for by the Ford Foundation, a well known front organization for the CIA. Fab. > Eagle Scout > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15 PM > To: Estabrook, Carl G ; Peace-discuss List > Cc: prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net > Subject: RE: [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth > > Dear Carl: > > With all due respect to you: Yes, I took out a subscription to Foreign Affairs when I was getting my PHD in international political science from Harvard. I dropped it years ago when FA was taken over by a Gang of Zionist NeoCon Imperial Thugs. It is not worth wrapping fish in. But if I had FA on a Boy Scout camping trip, I guess I could use it as toilet paper. fab. > Eagle Scout > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:58 PM > To: Peace-discuss List ; peace > Cc: prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net > Subject: [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth > > https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/21/a-breach-in-the-anti-putin-groupthink/ > > “For 25 years, Republicans and Democrats have acted in ways that look much the same to Moscow. Washington has pursued policies that have ignored Russian interests (and sometimes international law as well) in order to encircle Moscow with military alliances and trade blocs conducive to U.S. interests. It is no wonder that Russia pushes back. The wonder is that the U.S. policy elite doesn’t get this, even as foreign-affairs neophyte Trump apparently does… > > "[This article] details all the errors and stupidities of the Obama administration in its handling of Russia and Putin, faulting President Obama and Secretary of State (and later presidential candidate) Hillary Clinton for all of their provocative and insensitive [sic] words and deeds. What we see in U.S. policy ... is the application of double standards, a prosecutorial stance towards Russia, and outrageous lies about the country and its leadership foisted on the American public.” > > —CGE > From brussel at illinois.edu Wed Mar 22 02:58:29 2017 From: brussel at illinois.edu (Brussel, Morton K) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 02:58:29 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Truth through comedy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This program has been erased… By whom? On Mar 21, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: Not my style of news, but “truth” though comedy with Lee Camp of “Redacted Tonight”, hits the nails on the head, and cracks me up at the same time. From CIA surveillance to Healthcare. See below: https://www.rt.com/shows/redacted-tonight-summary/381222-cia-leaks-surveillance-trumpcare/ _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brussel at illinois.edu Wed Mar 22 02:58:29 2017 From: brussel at illinois.edu (Brussel, Morton K) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 02:58:29 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Truth through comedy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This program has been erased… By whom? On Mar 21, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: Not my style of news, but “truth” though comedy with Lee Camp of “Redacted Tonight”, hits the nails on the head, and cracks me up at the same time. From CIA surveillance to Healthcare. See below: https://www.rt.com/shows/redacted-tonight-summary/381222-cia-leaks-surveillance-trumpcare/ _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Mar 22 03:25:19 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 22:25:19 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE ON THE AIR for Tuesday 21 March Message-ID: The principal topics of today’s program are US murder in Yemen; anti-Russian hysteria, encouraged by both Republicans and Democrats; and the new administration’s resistance to war with Russia and China. Sources: ~ “Why Trump Should Stay Out of Yemen,” by Patrick Cockburn ~ "McCain and Montenegro: the anatomy of a conspiracy theory," by Justin Raimondo The second half of the program is announced as a video on “whistle-blowers.” It’s in fact on the leading whistle-blower of the 19th century, Karl Marx, who died 14 March 1883. It's available separately on YouTube, at - Richard Wolff : "Karl Marx was a genius." —CGE From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Mar 22 03:50:43 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 22:50:43 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE ON THE AIR for Tuesday 21 March CORRECTED In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwKFbX6yLj8&feature=youtu.be The principal topics of today’s program are US murder in Yemen; anti-Russian hysteria, encouraged by both Republicans and Democrats; and the new administration’s resistance to war with Russia and China. Sources: ~ “Why Trump Should Stay Out of Yemen,” by Patrick Cockburn ~ "McCain and Montenegro: the anatomy of a conspiracy theory," by Justin Raimondo The second half of the program is announced as a video on “whistle-blowers.” It’s in fact on the leading whistle-blower of the 19th century, Karl Marx, who died 14 March 1883. It's available separately on YouTube, at - Richard Wolff : "Karl Marx was a genius." —CGE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Mar 22 11:49:24 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:49:24 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Truth through comedy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mort, you mean when you attempt to access the link I sent, they say it’s been erased? I just now accessed it with no problem. Try going to RT.com website, and you’ll find it under “Shows” along with “Crosstalk,” and “On Contact” with Chris Hedges. On Mar 21, 2017, at 19:58, Brussel, Morton K > wrote: This program has been erased… By whom? On Mar 21, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: Not my style of news, but “truth” though comedy with Lee Camp of “Redacted Tonight”, hits the nails on the head, and cracks me up at the same time. From CIA surveillance to Healthcare. See below: https://www.rt.com/shows/redacted-tonight-summary/381222-cia-leaks-surveillance-trumpcare/ _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Mar 22 11:49:24 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:49:24 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Truth through comedy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mort, you mean when you attempt to access the link I sent, they say it’s been erased? I just now accessed it with no problem. Try going to RT.com website, and you’ll find it under “Shows” along with “Crosstalk,” and “On Contact” with Chris Hedges. On Mar 21, 2017, at 19:58, Brussel, Morton K > wrote: This program has been erased… By whom? On Mar 21, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: Not my style of news, but “truth” though comedy with Lee Camp of “Redacted Tonight”, hits the nails on the head, and cracks me up at the same time. From CIA surveillance to Healthcare. See below: https://www.rt.com/shows/redacted-tonight-summary/381222-cia-leaks-surveillance-trumpcare/ _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Mar 22 12:00:06 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:00:06 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth In-Reply-To: <1C2C0ABD-CDB5-4A00-BB0A-F8C60C6910D2@illinois.edu> References: <1C2C0ABD-CDB5-4A00-BB0A-F8C60C6910D2@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Carl, I agree with your objection to any reference to USG crime as a stupid mistake or error. It’s so misleading, and continues the myth of “if only we had a different President, or the other Party” which prevents further thought or research into “why” our nation continues the crimes against humanity, regardless of which Party Democrat or Republican, is in power, or who the President in Chief maybe. > On Mar 21, 2017, at 19:31, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote: > > My principal objection to the Consortium News account of the Foreign Affairs article is that it refers to "the *errors and stupidities* of the Obama administration in its handling of Russia and Putin,” when a far better description would be *lies and crimes.* > > But we should be thankful for any cracks in the facade. Some light gets through. > > —CGE > >> On Mar 21, 2017, at 8:44 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: >> >> And ditto for Foreign Policy. FP was founded by and paid for by the Ford Foundation, a well known front organization for the CIA. Fab. >> Eagle Scout >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> Law Building >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> Champaign IL 61820 USA >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> (personal comments only) >> >> From: Boyle, Francis A >> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15 PM >> To: Estabrook, Carl G ; Peace-discuss List >> Cc: prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net >> Subject: RE: [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth >> >> Dear Carl: >> >> With all due respect to you: Yes, I took out a subscription to Foreign Affairs when I was getting my PHD in international political science from Harvard. I dropped it years ago when FA was taken over by a Gang of Zionist NeoCon Imperial Thugs. It is not worth wrapping fish in. But if I had FA on a Boy Scout camping trip, I guess I could use it as toilet paper. fab. >> Eagle Scout >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> Law Building >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> Champaign IL 61820 USA >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> (personal comments only) >> >> From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace >> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:58 PM >> To: Peace-discuss List ; peace >> Cc: prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net >> Subject: [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth >> >> https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/21/a-breach-in-the-anti-putin-groupthink/ >> >> “For 25 years, Republicans and Democrats have acted in ways that look much the same to Moscow. Washington has pursued policies that have ignored Russian interests (and sometimes international law as well) in order to encircle Moscow with military alliances and trade blocs conducive to U.S. interests. It is no wonder that Russia pushes back. The wonder is that the U.S. policy elite doesn’t get this, even as foreign-affairs neophyte Trump apparently does… >> >> "[This article] details all the errors and stupidities of the Obama administration in its handling of Russia and Putin, faulting President Obama and Secretary of State (and later presidential candidate) Hillary Clinton for all of their provocative and insensitive [sic] words and deeds. What we see in U.S. policy ... is the application of double standards, a prosecutorial stance towards Russia, and outrageous lies about the country and its leadership foisted on the American public.” >> >> —CGE >> > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Mar 22 12:01:02 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:01:02 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth In-Reply-To: <1C2C0ABD-CDB5-4A00-BB0A-F8C60C6910D2@illinois.edu> References: <1C2C0ABD-CDB5-4A00-BB0A-F8C60C6910D2@illinois.edu> Message-ID: For sure. Obama's foreign affairs mentor and guru going back to his student days at Columbia is Brzezinski, an ex-patriate Pole who hates the Russians with a passion. I went through the same PHD Program at Harvard that produced Kissinger, Brzezinski and Huntington before me. Obama and I had the same Jurisprudence teacher at Harvard Law School, Roberto Unger, Founder of the Critical Legal Studies Movement, who has stated publicly: "Obama is a disaster!" Ditto for Zbig! Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:32 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List ; prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net Subject: Re: [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth My principal objection to the Consortium News account of the Foreign Affairs article is that it refers to "the *errors and stupidities* of the Obama administration in its handling of Russia and Putin,” when a far better description would be *lies and crimes.* But we should be thankful for any cracks in the facade. Some light gets through. —CGE > On Mar 21, 2017, at 8:44 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > And ditto for Foreign Policy. FP was founded by and paid for by the Ford Foundation, a well known front organization for the CIA. Fab. > Eagle Scout > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15 PM > To: Estabrook, Carl G ; Peace-discuss List > Cc: prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net > Subject: RE: [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth > > Dear Carl: > > With all due respect to you: Yes, I took out a subscription to Foreign Affairs when I was getting my PHD in international political science from Harvard. I dropped it years ago when FA was taken over by a Gang of Zionist NeoCon Imperial Thugs. It is not worth wrapping fish in. But if I had FA on a Boy Scout camping trip, I guess I could use it as toilet paper. fab. > Eagle Scout > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:58 PM > To: Peace-discuss List ; peace > Cc: prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net > Subject: [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth > > https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/21/a-breach-in-the-anti-putin-groupthink/ > > “For 25 years, Republicans and Democrats have acted in ways that look much the same to Moscow. Washington has pursued policies that have ignored Russian interests (and sometimes international law as well) in order to encircle Moscow with military alliances and trade blocs conducive to U.S. interests. It is no wonder that Russia pushes back. The wonder is that the U.S. policy elite doesn’t get this, even as foreign-affairs neophyte Trump apparently does… > > "[This article] details all the errors and stupidities of the Obama administration in its handling of Russia and Putin, faulting President Obama and Secretary of State (and later presidential candidate) Hillary Clinton for all of their provocative and insensitive [sic] words and deeds. What we see in U.S. policy ... is the application of double standards, a prosecutorial stance towards Russia, and outrageous lies about the country and its leadership foisted on the American public.” > > —CGE > From r-szoke at illinois.edu Wed Mar 22 20:05:35 2017 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 20:05:35 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] What you should be thinking & doing Message-ID: <076C7972-D2D9-4DC3-A816-24F44A755EA6@illinois.edu> EXPOSED: What the liberals & Democrats want to do to you & to all True Americans ! ------ https://w3.newsmax.com/General/NMM/Offers/Big-Agenda-Discount?ns_mail_uid=58736884&ns_mail_job=1720020_03222017&s=al&dkt_nbr=ykfkjrtw Big Agenda [X] Top talker Rush Limbaugh is urging YOU to get the #1 bestseller since Trump was inaugurated. It's called Big Agenda: President Trump's Plan to Save America by David Horowitz. The media is not out to just stop Trump. They want to destroy him. So argues David Horowitz in Big Agenda. 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References: <37074742-411B-4B4C-A2DC-261904594EFB@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <9094F5E7-4D69-4A79-BF0A-659A70A30A8F@illinois.edu> Note that, according to the pundits of AWARE, it was clearly the demonic child-killer Obama, solely & completely, up until the afternoon of January 20, 2017, because such things “happened on his watch.” Thereafter these events became far more complex & ambiguous, & we began to hear more about the more remote “root causes.” From: "Szoke, Ron" > Subject: US Bombing Blamed for Killing Dozens of Civilians Sheltering in Syrian School Date: March 22, 2017 at 4:18:53 PM CDT To: "Szoke, Ron" > Link: http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/03/22/us-bombing-blamed-killing-dozens-civilians-sheltering-syrian-school?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=email_this&utm_source=email -- Shared via Shareaholic -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Mar 22 22:11:22 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 17:11:22 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Who do we BLAME? Part 666. In-Reply-To: <9094F5E7-4D69-4A79-BF0A-659A70A30A8F@illinois.edu> References: <37074742-411B-4B4C-A2DC-261904594EFB@illinois.edu> <9094F5E7-4D69-4A79-BF0A-659A70A30A8F@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Come on, Ron. No one pretends that all the US government-produced corpses, adults and children, of the last eight years are Obama’s fault alone. But no one can pretend that he bears no responsibility - not even himself: in a book on the 2012 presidential campaign, he's quoted as saying, "Turns out I'm really good at killing people. Didn't know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine." However ironically he meant it, the quote was not denied; it was quite true. He was even able to joke about his drone killings at a White House correspondents’ dinner. Unfortunately, there’s little indication that Trump is going to be much different, even if he carries through on his criticisms of Obama’s (and Clinton’s) war policies. Chomsky pointed out long ago that if the principles on which we condemned German officials at Nuremberg were applied here, all post-war presidents would have been hanged. —CGE > On Mar 22, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Note that, according to the pundits of AWARE, it was clearly the demonic child-killer Obama, solely & completely, up until the afternoon of January 20, 2017, because such things “happened on his watch.” > > Thereafter these events became far more complex & ambiguous, & we began to hear more about the more remote “root causes.” > >> From: "Szoke, Ron" >> Subject: US Bombing Blamed for Killing Dozens of Civilians Sheltering in Syrian School >> Date: March 22, 2017 at 4:18:53 PM CDT >> To: "Szoke, Ron" >> >> Link: http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/03/22/us-bombing-blamed-killing-dozens-civilians-sheltering-syrian-school?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=email_this&utm_source=email >> >> >> >> -- >> Shared via Shareaholic > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Mar 22 22:58:34 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:58:34 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Who do we BLAME? Part 666. In-Reply-To: <9094F5E7-4D69-4A79-BF0A-659A70A30A8F@illinois.edu> References: <37074742-411B-4B4C-A2DC-261904594EFB@illinois.edu> <9094F5E7-4D69-4A79-BF0A-659A70A30A8F@illinois.edu> Message-ID: And some on AWARE, like myself, have been attempting to get across the point, that Obama, Trump whoever is President is going to continue the killing because our system of Capitalism and all those that profit from it, now known as the “Deep State" demand it. Both Parties and every candidate knows well when he takes that first “corporate check” during his campaign, who he is beholden to, and it’s not the American people. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, and “they made me do it,” doesn’t let anyone off the hook. Too many Democrats tried to explain away Obama’s guilt, with excuses, just as now many try to explain away Trump’s guilt, but as Ralph Nader said recently, “the gloves are off now.” Every US President is a war criminal, going back to at least WW2, I’ll leave those that come before, to the Historians amongst us. Along with their partners in crime, everyone who has innocent blood on their hands for the sheer goal of “control” and “profit,” should be prosecuted as were those at Nuremberg. Instead we honor them as elder statesman with wealth and glory. On Mar 22, 2017, at 14:40, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss > wrote: Note that, according to the pundits of AWARE, it was clearly the demonic child-killer Obama, solely & completely, up until the afternoon of January 20, 2017, because such things “happened on his watch.” Thereafter these events became far more complex & ambiguous, & we began to hear more about the more remote “root causes.” From: "Szoke, Ron" > Subject: US Bombing Blamed for Killing Dozens of Civilians Sheltering in Syrian School Date: March 22, 2017 at 4:18:53 PM CDT To: "Szoke, Ron" > Link: http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/03/22/us-bombing-blamed-killing-dozens-civilians-sheltering-syrian-school?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=email_this&utm_source=email -- Shared via Shareaholic _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 23 00:11:27 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 00:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Finkelstein on freedom of speech References: <326772323.2285578.1490227887923.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <326772323.2285578.1490227887923@mail.yahoo.com> ALBANY — A state lawmaker from Brooklyn is condemning the borough’s public library for hosting a 10-week lecture series with controversial author and Israel critic Norman Finkelstein. Assemblyman Dov Hikind, a Democrat, described Finkelstein as a “Holocaust revisionist” and said taxpayer dollars should not be used to give him a forum for his “hateful” views.“The question is, ‘Why would the Brooklyn Public Library allow this vile propagandist to use their facilities to spread his hate to the public?’ ” Hikind said. The politician said the library should cancel the 10-week class, entitled, “No Free Speech for Fascists.” Finkelstein, 63, has been a prominent defender of the Palestinians and Hezbollah. He also wrote a book called “The Holocaust Industry” that accused Elie Wiesel and others of exploiting the memory of the Holocaust as an “ideological weapon.”In the book, Finkelstein wrote that “a repellent gang of plutocrats, hoodlums and hucksters” were using the Holocaust to shake down German and Swiss banks for settlements.“I don’t want my tax dollars going” to promote such views, Hikind told the Daily News. A library spokeswoman defended the series.“Public libraries support open dialogue and foster intercultural communication,” the spokeswoman said.“Books in the library range from the banal to the banned, and all serve the purpose of promoting academic growth and unfettered access to knowledge. We are happy to host these robust discussions for interested members of the public on texts by John Stuart Mill, Thomas More and Fyodor Dostoyevsky.”The lecture series, part of the Library School, began March 6 and runs through May 8 at the Central Library at Grand Army Plaza. Finkelstein is not being paid for the series.“The course promises to be a provocative and inspiring occasion, where the heat it generates will, hopefully, be surpassed by the light it sheds,” the library wrote on the web page promoting the class.Finkelstein told The News that, “I am teaching a class devoted to ‘On Liberty,’ the classic defense of liberty of speech by John Stuart Mill.“Mr. Hikind would perhaps benefit from attending it. He’s, of course, welcome.” -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Estabrook) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 12:08:04 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Who do we BLAME? Part 666. In-Reply-To: <9094F5E7-4D69-4A79-BF0A-659A70A30A8F@illinois.edu> References: <37074742-411B-4B4C-A2DC-261904594EFB@illinois.edu> <9094F5E7-4D69-4A79-BF0A-659A70A30A8F@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <2415FC96-3B5E-4E45-9B67-6DF7B07538EE@illinois.edu> [Jeffrey St Clair] Lest we forget: Afghanistan under Obama, where civilian casualties nearly doubled… —CGE > On Mar 22, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Note that, according to the pundits of AWARE, it was clearly the demonic child-killer Obama, solely & completely, up until the afternoon of January 20, 2017, because such things “happened on his watch.” > > Thereafter these events became far more complex & ambiguous, & we began to hear more about the more remote “root causes.” > >> From: "Szoke, Ron" >> Subject: US Bombing Blamed for Killing Dozens of Civilians Sheltering in Syrian School >> Date: March 22, 2017 at 4:18:53 PM CDT >> To: "Szoke, Ron" >> >> Link: http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/03/22/us-bombing-blamed-killing-dozens-civilians-sheltering-syrian-school?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=email_this&utm_source=email >> >> >> >> -- >> Shared via Shareaholic > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <2415FC96-3B5E-4E45-9B67-6DF7B07538EE@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <15b0097059d-3cce-19e07@webprd-m42.mail.aol.com> Is Szoke not also "one of the pundits of AWARE"?  Ron Queally in commondreams.org 2/13/13 quotes Glen Greenwald's study of opinion polls re Obama's policies on killing civilians: "Progressive willingness to acquiese or even to outright support Obama's radical policies--in the name of partisan loyalty--is precisely what ensures the continuation of these policies.  Obama gets away with this because so many  progressives venerate leader loyalty and partisan gain above all else."  (emphasis mine).  Would "progressives" have been any less loyal to a President H. Clinton's continuation of the same policies? Trump and his supporters are no less culpable.  Had Dennis Kuchinich's motion to impeach President G.W. Bush been successful, there would have been precedent to hold later administrations accountable.    Midge O'Brien--Original Message-----From: Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss To: Ron Szoke Cc: Peace-discuss AWARE Sent: Thu, Mar 23, 2017 12:08 pmSubject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Who do we BLAME? Part 666. [Jeffrey St Clair]Lest we forget: Afghanistan under Obama, where civilian casualties nearly doubled… —CGEOn Mar 22, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss wrote:Note that, according to the pundits of AWARE, it was clearly the demonic child-killer Obama, solely & completely, up until the afternoon of January 20, 2017, because such things “happened on his watch.”Thereafter these events became far more complex & ambiguous, & we began to hear more about the more remote  “root causes.”From: "Szoke, Ron" Subject: US Bombing Blamed for Killing Dozens of Civilians Sheltering in Syrian SchoolDate: March 22, 2017 at 4:18:53 PM CDTTo: "Szoke, Ron" Link: http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/03/22/us-bombing-blamed-killing-dozens-civilians-sheltering-syrian-school?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=email_this&utm_source=email--Shared via Shareaholic_______________________________________________Peace-discuss mailing listPeace-discuss at lists.chambana.nethttps://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rodney Davis's Champaign office staffer, her husband, Jeff Castle, standing in doorway, Loren Kirkwood, far right, of Urbana, and Meagan Glaser, far left, of Champaign, look on Thursday, March 23, 2017. A large group celebrated the seventh anniversary of the Affordable Care Act in front of Davis's office as they voiced concern for Davis's continued support of the American Health Care Act. * [20170323-234329-pic-940154229.jpg] * [20170323-234329-pic-863913014.jpg] * [20170323-234329-pic-748258814.jpg] [http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-facebook.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-twitter.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/print.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/send4.png] CHAMPAIGN — As emotions stirred over Republican leaders' retooled health care plan, U.S. Rep. Rodney Davis took to the WDWS-AM airwaves Thursday morning with a familiar message. The Affordable Care Act is "collapsing." Medicaid will cost the state of Illinois hundreds of millions more "in just two years." Repeal-and-replace time is overdue for Obamacare. "I've got friends who have told me their premiums have gone up 87 percent," Davis told the WDWS Morning Show. "We've got 31 million people in this country that can't afford to use the coverage they have and hospitals right in Champaign and Urbana are writing off care of insured patients because the patients can't pay the $6,000 deductible that they have to pay before their health coverage kicks in. "If we don't change and we don't help these people, then we are abdicating our responsibility as policy makers out here." What started as a tense Thursday, with Republican lawmakers openly criticizing key pieces of the GOP's own bill, ended with President Donald Trump calling for a vote today on health care legislation in the House. Make it happen, GOP lawmakers were reportedly told by Trump, or he'll just leave Obamacare in place as is and move on to other matters. "I was at the White House with President Trump in a meeting in the Oval Office just this week, where he personally told me that he is fully supportive of what we're doing and he wants us to continue to work to fulfill his promises too — that we give Americans more affordable, accessible and usable coverage than what they have now under this collapsing system," Davis said on WDWS. "I remember just a few short months ago, former President Clinton said Obamacare was a disaster, so this isn't just a Republican issue, but the president is fully engaged and in talking to him and hearing from him, we see that." As Davis spoke from Washington, a vocal group of about 70 protesters gathered outside the Taylorville Republican's Champaign office. They ate cake celebrating the Affordable Care Act turning seven years old and defended its merits. Among those who turned out for Thursday's rally: Loren Kirkwood, a self-employed Urbana resident who said he went 12 years without health insurance before the Affordable Care Act passed. "Republicans are constantly driving Obamacare into the ground, claiming it's failing, claiming that it's a disaster, and it's not," he said. "It's working very well. It makes me very angry they're lying about it. There's no way you can afford insurance when you're self-employed." Organizers didn't expect to see or hear from Davis on Thursday — they brought a familiar cardboard cutout of the congressman to serve as a placeholder — but they said they wanted to send a clear message anyway, even if it was just to his staff. "It's the seventh anniversary of the Affordable Care Act becoming law and it's also supposedly the day the House is going to vote on the Republican replacement plan," Kathleen Winters said, speaking shortly before those plans were scrapped for the day. "A lot of the people here today have been positively impacted by the Affordable Care Act, and we wanted to take a minute to celebrate the achievements. "I think it's vitally important. There's people in this crowd whose lives have literally been saved — I'm one of them — by access to medication, access to treatment. There's nothing in the new plan that equals those things." David Enstrom, a member of the Green party, turned out for the rally despite his lukewarm feelings about Obamacare. He'd like to see it replaced with a single-payer system, but he doesn't want to see the law go away "in this fashion." "We certainly don't want it to turn into what the Republicans are after," he said, adding that if Davis were more responsive to constituents, people wouldn't gather outside his office. "There's no opportunity to talk to this man at any level." While Davis has no public forums planned locally, his office said he will host another "tele-town hall" Monday for people in his district. 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Home » News » Local Two vastly different points of view on ACA Fri, 03/24/2017 - 7:00am | Nicole Lafond [20170323-234329-pic-395947990.jpg] Photo by: Heather Coit/The News-Gazette As Kathleen Winters, of Urbana, mostly obscured, delivers a signed card to Rep. Rodney Davis's Champaign office staffer, her husband, Jeff Castle, standing in doorway, Loren Kirkwood, far right, of Urbana, and Meagan Glaser, far left, of Champaign, look on Thursday, March 23, 2017. A large group celebrated the seventh anniversary of the Affordable Care Act in front of Davis's office as they voiced concern for Davis's continued support of the American Health Care Act. * [20170323-234329-pic-940154229.jpg] * [20170323-234329-pic-863913014.jpg] * [20170323-234329-pic-748258814.jpg] [http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-facebook.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-twitter.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/print.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/send4.png] CHAMPAIGN — As emotions stirred over Republican leaders' retooled health care plan, U.S. Rep. Rodney Davis took to the WDWS-AM airwaves Thursday morning with a familiar message. The Affordable Care Act is "collapsing." Medicaid will cost the state of Illinois hundreds of millions more "in just two years." Repeal-and-replace time is overdue for Obamacare. "I've got friends who have told me their premiums have gone up 87 percent," Davis told the WDWS Morning Show. "We've got 31 million people in this country that can't afford to use the coverage they have and hospitals right in Champaign and Urbana are writing off care of insured patients because the patients can't pay the $6,000 deductible that they have to pay before their health coverage kicks in. "If we don't change and we don't help these people, then we are abdicating our responsibility as policy makers out here." What started as a tense Thursday, with Republican lawmakers openly criticizing key pieces of the GOP's own bill, ended with President Donald Trump calling for a vote today on health care legislation in the House. Make it happen, GOP lawmakers were reportedly told by Trump, or he'll just leave Obamacare in place as is and move on to other matters. "I was at the White House with President Trump in a meeting in the Oval Office just this week, where he personally told me that he is fully supportive of what we're doing and he wants us to continue to work to fulfill his promises too — that we give Americans more affordable, accessible and usable coverage than what they have now under this collapsing system," Davis said on WDWS. "I remember just a few short months ago, former President Clinton said Obamacare was a disaster, so this isn't just a Republican issue, but the president is fully engaged and in talking to him and hearing from him, we see that." As Davis spoke from Washington, a vocal group of about 70 protesters gathered outside the Taylorville Republican's Champaign office. They ate cake celebrating the Affordable Care Act turning seven years old and defended its merits. Among those who turned out for Thursday's rally: Loren Kirkwood, a self-employed Urbana resident who said he went 12 years without health insurance before the Affordable Care Act passed. "Republicans are constantly driving Obamacare into the ground, claiming it's failing, claiming that it's a disaster, and it's not," he said. "It's working very well. It makes me very angry they're lying about it. There's no way you can afford insurance when you're self-employed." Organizers didn't expect to see or hear from Davis on Thursday — they brought a familiar cardboard cutout of the congressman to serve as a placeholder — but they said they wanted to send a clear message anyway, even if it was just to his staff. "It's the seventh anniversary of the Affordable Care Act becoming law and it's also supposedly the day the House is going to vote on the Republican replacement plan," Kathleen Winters said, speaking shortly before those plans were scrapped for the day. "A lot of the people here today have been positively impacted by the Affordable Care Act, and we wanted to take a minute to celebrate the achievements. "I think it's vitally important. There's people in this crowd whose lives have literally been saved — I'm one of them — by access to medication, access to treatment. There's nothing in the new plan that equals those things." David Enstrom, a member of the Green party, turned out for the rally despite his lukewarm feelings about Obamacare. He'd like to see it replaced with a single-payer system, but he doesn't want to see the law go away "in this fashion." "We certainly don't want it to turn into what the Republicans are after," he said, adding that if Davis were more responsive to constituents, people wouldn't gather outside his office. "There's no opportunity to talk to this man at any level." While Davis has no public forums planned locally, his office said he will host another "tele-town hall" Monday for people in his district. 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Members and friends of AWARE are invited to participate in the effort. The results are available on the Facebook page for AWARE OF CHAMPAIGN URBANA ILLINOIS >. —CGE > On Mar 24, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Is Szoke not also "one of the pundits of AWARE"? > > Ron Queally in commondreams.org 2/13/13 quotes Glen Greenwald's study of opinion polls re Obama's policies on killing civilians: "Progressive willingness to acquiese or even to outright support Obama's radical policies--in the name of partisan loyalty--is precisely what ensures the continuation of these policies. Obama gets away with this because so many progressives venerate leader loyalty and partisan gain above all else." (emphasis mine). Would "progressives" have been any less loyal to a President H. Clinton's continuation of the same policies? Trump and his supporters are no less culpable. Had Dennis Kuchinich's motion to impeach President G.W. Bush been successful, there would have been precedent to hold later administrations accountable. > > Midge O'Brien > > > --Original Message----- > From: Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > To: Ron Szoke > Cc: Peace-discuss AWARE > Sent: Thu, Mar 23, 2017 12:08 pm > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Who do we BLAME? Part 666. > > [Jeffrey St Clair] > Lest we forget: Afghanistan under Obama, where civilian casualties nearly doubled… > > > —CGE > > > On Mar 22, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss > wrote: > > Note that, according to the pundits of AWARE, it was clearly the demonic child-killer Obama, solely & completely, up until the afternoon of January 20, 2017, because such things “happened on his watch.” > > Thereafter these events became far more complex & ambiguous, & we began to hear more about the more remote “root causes.” > > From: "Szoke, Ron" > > Subject: US Bombing Blamed for Killing Dozens of Civilians Sheltering in Syrian School > Date: March 22, 2017 at 4:18:53 PM CDT > To: "Szoke, Ron" > > > Link: http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/03/22/us-bombing-blamed-killing-dozens-civilians-sheltering-syrian-school?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=email_this&utm_source=email > > > > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Mar 24 18:57:26 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 18:57:26 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Yesterdays rally at Rodney Davis Office Message-ID: Though I appreciate all who came out, especially those who support “Single Payer Healthcare for All,” David Johnson and David Engstrom took the opportunity to speak on this topic on behalf of all the American people. We were a bit appalled at the celebration of 7 years of ACA. What is wrong with us, by us I refer to the American people, singing Happy Birthday and serving cake. No, I'm not making this up. To partake in this humble or rather humiliating experience is like a beggar on the street groveling over a few coins thrown his way. We, Greens did not sing, nor eat cake. Universal Healthcare is what we should have, like that of every other developed nation in the world, but we have allowed the insurance and pharma cos., supporting our government, to reduce us to beggars, when we should be “demanding” universal healthcare for all. Instead we allow our taxes to continue to support the military/industrial machine and war, while we plead to our “Representatives” not to hurt us more by taking away what little bones they throw us after their meals. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Mar 24 18:57:26 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 18:57:26 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Yesterdays rally at Rodney Davis Office Message-ID: Though I appreciate all who came out, especially those who support “Single Payer Healthcare for All,” David Johnson and David Engstrom took the opportunity to speak on this topic on behalf of all the American people. We were a bit appalled at the celebration of 7 years of ACA. What is wrong with us, by us I refer to the American people, singing Happy Birthday and serving cake. No, I'm not making this up. To partake in this humble or rather humiliating experience is like a beggar on the street groveling over a few coins thrown his way. We, Greens did not sing, nor eat cake. Universal Healthcare is what we should have, like that of every other developed nation in the world, but we have allowed the insurance and pharma cos., supporting our government, to reduce us to beggars, when we should be “demanding” universal healthcare for all. Instead we allow our taxes to continue to support the military/industrial machine and war, while we plead to our “Representatives” not to hurt us more by taking away what little bones they throw us after their meals. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Mar 24 22:40:51 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 22:40:51 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Yesterdays rally at Rodney Davis Office References: Message-ID: Though I appreciate all who came out, especially those who support “Single Payer Healthcare for All,” David Johnson and David Engstrom took the opportunity to speak on this topic on behalf of all the American people, we were a bit appalled at the celebration of 7 years of ACA. What is wrong with us, by us I refer to the American people, singing Happy Birthday and serving cake. No, I'm not making this up. To partake in this humble, or rather humiliating experience is like a beggar on the street groveling over a few coins thrown his way. We, Greens did not sing, nor eat cake. Universal Healthcare is what we should have, like that of every other developed nation in the world, but we have allowed the insurance and pharma cos., supporting our government, to reduce us to beggars, when we should be “demanding” universal healthcare for all. Instead we allow our taxes to continue to support the military/industrial machine and war, while we plead to our “Representatives” not to hurt us more by taking away what little bones they throw us after their feasts. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Sat Mar 25 02:38:01 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 21:38:01 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The Obama Plot to Sabotage Trump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7AD73427-6AF0-4CAF-BC80-76EE41776305@illinois.edu> "The real scandal, which the media regard as a diversion from the primary target, Trump, is that a Deep State conspiracy to bring down his presidency seems to have been put in place by Obamaites, and perhaps approved by Obama himself.” http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/the-obama-plot-to-sabotage-trump/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rwhelbig at gmail.com Sat Mar 25 03:39:58 2017 From: rwhelbig at gmail.com (Roger Helbig) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 20:39:58 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The Obama Plot to Sabotage Trump In-Reply-To: <7AD73427-6AF0-4CAF-BC80-76EE41776305@illinois.edu> References: <7AD73427-6AF0-4CAF-BC80-76EE41776305@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Are you now a front man for Trump or just easily taken in by fake news? Supposedly you are an educated man - but often you post like you are clueless. On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss < peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > "The real scandal, which the media regard as a diversion from the primary > target, Trump, is that a Deep State conspiracy to bring down his presidency > seems to have been put in place by Obamaites, and perhaps approved by Obama > himself.” > > http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/the-obama-plot-to-sabotage-trump/ > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Sat Mar 25 04:03:12 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 23:03:12 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The Obama Plot to Sabotage Trump In-Reply-To: References: <7AD73427-6AF0-4CAF-BC80-76EE41776305@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <2F8788D7-23EB-4B05-BB1B-CA47A9D5DED6@illinois.edu> You mean, none of that’s real, Roger?! It was always the Russians, all the time? (I voted for Stein, BTW, although I didn’t approve of her carrying water for Clinton, after the election…) > On Mar 24, 2017, at 10:39 PM, Roger Helbig wrote: > > Are you now a front man for Trump or just easily taken in by fake news? Supposedly you are an educated man - but often you post like you are clueless. > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > wrote: > "The real scandal, which the media regard as a diversion from the primary target, Trump, is that a Deep State conspiracy to bring down his presidency seems to have been put in place by Obamaites, and perhaps approved by Obama himself.” > > http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/the-obama-plot-to-sabotage-trump/ > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Sat Mar 25 12:07:55 2017 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 07:07:55 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Yesterdays rally at Rodney Davis Office In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007501d2a560$6fb60910$4f221b30$@comcast.net> Great statement Karen ! David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 5:41 PM To: Peace-discuss List Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Yesterdays rally at Rodney Davis Office Though I appreciate all who came out, especially those who support “Single Payer Healthcare for All,” David Johnson and David Engstrom took the opportunity to speak on this topic on behalf of all the American people, we were a bit appalled at the celebration of 7 years of ACA. What is wrong with us, by us I refer to the American people, singing Happy Birthday and serving cake. No, I'm not making this up. To partake in this humble, or rather humiliating experience is like a beggar on the street groveling over a few coins thrown his way. We, Greens did not sing, nor eat cake. Universal Healthcare is what we should have, like that of every other developed nation in the world, but we have allowed the insurance and pharma cos., supporting our government, to reduce us to beggars, when we should be “demanding” universal healthcare for all. Instead we allow our taxes to continue to support the military/industrial machine and war, while we plead to our “Representatives” not to hurt us more by taking away what little bones they throw us after their feasts. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuartnlevy at gmail.com Sat Mar 25 18:00:36 2017 From: stuartnlevy at gmail.com (stuartnlevy) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:00:36 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Native American Spirituality and the Environment Message-ID: Not sure whether that will be possible - in another announcement of this event, they'd requested that no one make audio or video recordings of it. Rohn, do you know why?  Was that at the request of the speaker?  -- Stuart -------- Original message --------From: Mark Morenz-Harbinger via Peace Date: 3/25/17 12:02 (GMT-06:00) To: Peace List , kmedina67 Subject: Re: [Peace] Native American Spirituality and the Environment Is there anyway someone fro AWARE could post a video of this somewhere? Best, _Mark A. Morenz-Harbinger -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 3/24/17, kmedina67 via Peace wrote: Subject: [Peace] Native American Spirituality and the Environment To: "Peace List" Date: Friday, March 24, 2017, 10:19 PM Dear peace, Some of you may be interested in this event at channing-murray featuring Beverly Smith of the native American house at uiuc. The Channing-Murray Foundation welcomes you to join us this Sunday, March 26, at 2:30pm, for our concluding event in the Spirituality and the Environment series, featuring Beverly Smith of the Native American House. The service will include a presentation on indigenous education prior to colonializtion, the development of personal identity in relation to the environment, and the sacred role of water in Native American culture. As with other CMF Sunday Services, this event is free and open to the public. Snacks and drinks will be provided as well as an opportunity for fellowship after the service. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rohnkoester at gmail.com Sat Mar 25 18:15:05 2017 From: rohnkoester at gmail.com (Rohn Koester) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:15:05 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Native American Spirituality and the Environment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, the speaker requested no electronic recording of the event. The service is going to be built around a Native American water ceremony -- I think this is the reasoning behind the request for no recordings. r On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 1:00 PM, stuartnlevy wrote: > Not sure whether that will be possible - in another announcement of this > event, they'd requested that no one make audio or video recordings of it. > > Rohn, do you know why? Was that at the request of the speaker? > > -- Stuart > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Mark Morenz-Harbinger via Peace > Date: 3/25/17 12:02 (GMT-06:00) > To: Peace List , kmedina67 > Subject: Re: [Peace] Native American Spirituality and the Environment > > Is there anyway someone fro AWARE could post a video of this somewhere? > > Best, > _Mark A. Morenz-Harbinger > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Fri, 3/24/17, kmedina67 via Peace wrote: > > Subject: [Peace] Native American Spirituality and the Environment > To: "Peace List" > Date: Friday, March 24, 2017, 10:19 PM > > > > Dear peace, Some of you may be > interested in this event at channing-murray featuring > Beverly Smith of the native American house at > uiuc. > The Channing-Murray Foundation welcomes you to join us this > Sunday, > March 26, at 2:30pm, for our concluding event in the > Spirituality and > the Environment series, featuring Beverly Smith of the > Native American > House. > > The service will include a presentation on indigenous > education prior > to colonializtion, the development of personal identity in > relation to > the environment, and the sacred role of water in Native > American > culture. > > As with other CMF Sunday Services, this event is free and > open to the > public. Snacks and drinks will be provided as well as an > opportunity > for fellowship after the service. > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace From r-szoke at illinois.edu Sat Mar 25 19:09:53 2017 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:09:53 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Another recriminations orgy Message-ID: Who do we BLAME? Whose FAULT was it? Part 1,666 Similar, in some ways, to the recriminations that occurred among the Democrats after Hillary won the 2016 national election, on ordinary terms, with the largest number of votes of any presidential candidate in American history, but “lost” the election on a technicality. The Republican response was, as usual, that she had only herself to blame, & should “look in the mirror.” So it goes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: NYTimescom The Health Care Bill Has Failed Let the Finger Pointing Begin.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 126295 bytes Desc: NYTimescom The Health Care Bill Has Failed Let the Finger Pointing Begin.pdf URL: From kmedina67 at gmail.com Sat Mar 25 20:12:50 2017 From: kmedina67 at gmail.com (kmedina67) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 15:12:50 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Fwd: Nursing Home Days of Action this Weekend! Message-ID: Dear peace,I would like to move this conversation to the sister list,  peace-discuss (peace is for events, which is the main point of my original post). Diana, are you on the peace-discuss list? Yes, all the nursing homes i know of do take some Medicaid and Medicare patients. 1) It is a question of how many patients,  how long, and what restrictions they put on it. And, if ever there is a threat to medicaid payments, like there is going on right now with the state being way behind on the processing of the medicaid, what do the privatized nursing homes do?2) having more space for medicaid patients is not the only advantage to a public nursing home. On a side note, there is a tendency to expect medicaid to be there for our families. Medicaid and medicare are a tax supported programs, i.e. Socialized care for the good of us all. But some of the same people who like medicaid claim that privatizing  services is the way they would prefer things to be. I am not sure we can have it both ways. - Karen medina Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message --------From: Dianna Visek Date: 3/25/17 09:22 (GMT-06:00) To: Karen Medina , Peace List Subject: Re: [Peace] Fwd: Nursing Home Days of Action this Weekend! I've had the misfortune of having had parents in 7 facilities (assisted living and nursing homes) in Champaign County. As far as I know, all facilities in the county, other than Meadowbrook, take both Medicare and Medicaid.  Meadowbrook only takes Medicare in their rehabilitation unit and is the only facility I've encountered that mostly takes private pay. Dianna On Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:20 AM, Karen Medina via Peace wrote: Dear Peace, Below is a forwarded invitation to help canvass for the nursing home this weekend. If you have time, please consider canvassing (knocking on doors or phone calling) for the Champaign County Nursing Home issue... Saturday, March 25 (today) and Sunday, March 26, 2017 from 1pm-4pm. (You can help for an hour or all three) (see details of where and the wording on the ballot in the forwarded message below) Why do I think canvassing is extremely important? * The entire county will be voting on the issue, not just the towns of Champaign and Urbana. This means we need as many people as possible voting. * We need to educate as many people as possible. Some people may not even know about the April 4th election, even more people may not know about the Nursing Home issue. * Increasing taxes is not easy. In these hard times of the state of Illinois being way behind on paying its bills, a tax increase could be seem like a hardship on some people (about $30 for the average home), but in the long term keeping the nursing home from being privatized will (I believe) save the people of the county a lot of money.  The county nursing home takes in people that the privatized nursing homes don't.  * Privatizing services seems to be the way everything is going and people seem to be willing to let this happen. Because of this privatization, our county no longer has many of the services every community needs in order to be healthy. A nursing home for our seniors and recovering patients is one of those services that is vital; we all benefit from having it. I am willing to pay to keep it. Once something is privatized, we no longer have oversight as a community. Please consider helping to get the word out.   Pace e bene, -- karen medina "The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - Mark Twain ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Join our fight and come out and let voters know how to support the Champaign County Nursing Home in the April 4th Election! We are going to knock on doors and make phone calls to inform voters in Champaign and Urbana.  There will be a training on how to talk about the issues and what to expect going door to door or making calls.   Come out Saturday the 25th or Sunday the 26th: Meet at: 1pm-4pm110 S. Neil St. DONATE TODAY AT CHAMPAIGNCOUNTYCARE.ORG SHARE THE SAMPLE BALLOT WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS! _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Mar 25 20:40:42 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 20:40:42 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Fwd: Nursing Home Days of Action this Weekend! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My Mother is in a Nursing Home in Ohio, it’s no longer “public,” and it has been sold already within a couple years, a couple times. Initially they took Medicaid, for which she didn’t qualify given she is just old, not ill, at age 95. During this time we have seen the downsizing of staff, and staff qualifications, after all, it’s all about profit for the owners. What happens when her money runs out and she can no longer afford the $5,000 - $6,000 a month, will the new owners still take Medicaid? There are very few alternatives in the area, taking Medicaid that are suitable. On Mar 25, 2017, at 13:12, kmedina67 via Peace > wrote: Dear peace, I would like to move this conversation to the sister list, peace-discuss (peace is for events, which is the main point of my original post). Diana, are you on the peace-discuss list? Yes, all the nursing homes i know of do take some Medicaid and Medicare patients. 1) It is a question of how many patients, how long, and what restrictions they put on it. And, if ever there is a threat to medicaid payments, like there is going on right now with the state being way behind on the processing of the medicaid, what do the privatized nursing homes do? 2) having more space for medicaid patients is not the only advantage to a public nursing home. On a side note, there is a tendency to expect medicaid to be there for our families. Medicaid and medicare are a tax supported programs, i.e. Socialized care for the good of us all. But some of the same people who like medicaid claim that privatizing services is the way they would prefer things to be. I am not sure we can have it both ways. - Karen medina Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: Dianna Visek > Date: 3/25/17 09:22 (GMT-06:00) To: Karen Medina >, Peace List > Subject: Re: [Peace] Fwd: Nursing Home Days of Action this Weekend! I've had the misfortune of having had parents in 7 facilities (assisted living and nursing homes) in Champaign County. As far as I know, all facilities in the county, other than Meadowbrook, take both Medicare and Medicaid. Meadowbrook only takes Medicare in their rehabilitation unit and is the only facility I've encountered that mostly takes private pay. Dianna On Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:20 AM, Karen Medina via Peace > wrote: Dear Peace, Below is a forwarded invitation to help canvass for the nursing home this weekend. If you have time, please consider canvassing (knocking on doors or phone calling) for the Champaign County Nursing Home issue... Saturday, March 25 (today) and Sunday, March 26, 2017 from 1pm-4pm. (You can help for an hour or all three) (see details of where and the wording on the ballot in the forwarded message below) Why do I think canvassing is extremely important? * The entire county will be voting on the issue, not just the towns of Champaign and Urbana. This means we need as many people as possible voting. * We need to educate as many people as possible. Some people may not even know about the April 4th election, even more people may not know about the Nursing Home issue. * Increasing taxes is not easy. In these hard times of the state of Illinois being way behind on paying its bills, a tax increase could be seem like a hardship on some people (about $30 for the average home), but in the long term keeping the nursing home from being privatized will (I believe) save the people of the county a lot of money. The county nursing home takes in people that the privatized nursing homes don't. * Privatizing services seems to be the way everything is going and people seem to be willing to let this happen. Because of this privatization, our county no longer has many of the services every community needs in order to be healthy. A nursing home for our seniors and recovering patients is one of those services that is vital; we all benefit from having it. I am willing to pay to keep it. Once something is privatized, we no longer have oversight as a community. Please consider helping to get the word out. Pace e bene, -- karen medina "The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - Mark Twain ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Join our fight and come out and let voters know how to support the Champaign County Nursing Home in the April 4th Election! We are going to knock on doors and make phone calls to inform voters in Champaign and Urbana. There will be a training on how to talk about the issues and what to expect going door to door or making calls. Come out Saturday the 25th or Sunday the 26th: Meet at: 1pm-4pm 110 S. Neil St. DONATE TODAY AT CHAMPAIGNCOUNTYCARE.ORG SHARE THE SAMPLE BALLOT WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS! _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuartnlevy at gmail.com Sat Mar 25 21:50:53 2017 From: stuartnlevy at gmail.com (Stuart Levy) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 16:50:53 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Nursing Home Days of Action this Weekend! In-Reply-To: <805944064.4600975.1490451736078@mail.yahoo.com> References: <805944064.4600975.1490451736078@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm told that private facilities, though there are several in the county, take only a few Medicaid patients - that the County Nursing Home is the only place that accepts more than a small fraction. I expect that means that if you needed nursing care and Medicaid would be paying for it, then when applying to one of the private nursing homes you'd likely be told there was no room for you, or that it would be a very long wait. On 3/25/17 9:22 AM, Dianna Visek via Peace wrote: > I've had the misfortune of having had parents in 7 facilities > (assisted living and nursing homes) in Champaign County. As far as I > know, all facilities in the county, other than Meadowbrook, take both > Medicare and Medicaid. Meadowbrook only takes Medicare in their > rehabilitation unit and is the only facility I've encountered that > mostly takes private pay. > > Dianna > > > On Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:20 AM, Karen Medina via Peace > wrote: > > > Dear Peace, > > Below is a forwarded invitation to help canvass for the nursing home > this weekend. > > If you have time, please consider canvassing (knocking on doors or > phone calling) for the Champaign County Nursing Home issue... > Saturday, March 25 (today) and Sunday, March 26, 2017 > from 1pm-4pm. (You can help for an hour or all three) > (see details of where and the wording on the ballot in the forwarded > message below) > > Why do I think canvassing is extremely important? > * The entire county will be voting on the issue, not just the towns of > Champaign and Urbana. This means we need as many people as possible > voting. > * We need to educate as many people as possible. Some people may not > even know about the April 4th election, even more people may not know > about the Nursing Home issue. > * Increasing taxes is not easy. In these hard times of the state of > Illinois being way behind on paying its bills, a tax increase could be > seem like a hardship on some people (about $30 for the average home), > but in the long term keeping the nursing home from being privatized > will (I believe) save the people of the county a lot of money. The > county nursing home takes in people that the privatized nursing homes > don't. > * Privatizing services seems to be the way everything is going and > people seem to be willing to let this happen. Because of this > privatization, our county no longer has many of the services every > community needs in order to be healthy. A nursing home for our seniors > and recovering patients is one of those services that is vital; we all > benefit from having it. I am willing to pay to keep it. Once something > is privatized, we no longer have oversight as a community. > > Please consider helping to get the word out. > > Pace e bene, > -- karen medina > "The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - > Mark Twain > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Join our fight and come out and let voters know how to support the > Champaign County Nursing Home in the April 4th Election! > > We are going to knock on doors and make phone calls to inform voters > in Champaign and Urbana. There will be a training on how to talk > about the issues and what to expect going door to door or making calls. > > Come out *_Saturday the 25th_* or _*Sunday the 26th*_: > > Meet at: > 1pm-4pm > 110 S. Neil St. > > DONATE TODAY AT CHAMPAIGNCOUNTYCARE.ORG > > SHARE THE SAMPLE BALLOT WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS! > > > Inline image 1 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Sat Mar 25 22:34:28 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 17:34:28 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Another recriminations orgy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9473D55A-8F66-4D09-9655-2AC851FA9D70@illinois.edu> > On Mar 25, 2017, at 2:09 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Who do we BLAME? Whose FAULT was it? There’s plenty to go around. Don’t be greedy. "Left degeneracy plumbs new depths” by Patricia Greanville ...With equal breathless dishonesty, the letter has the audacity to talk about defending “Obama’s legacy”, a supposedly sterling body of work apparently about to be wrecked by the horrid Trumpinator. By the standards of silliness this marks a new low; by the standards of left thinking, such as it is practiced in the US, it confirms the irrelevancy of this “new”, thoroughly bourgeois identity politics “left” to the problems really threatening humanity… —CGE From baldwinricky at yahoo.com Sat Mar 25 22:59:01 2017 From: baldwinricky at yahoo.com (Ricky Baldwin) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 22:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Nursing Home Days of Action this Weekend! In-Reply-To: References: <805944064.4600975.1490451736078@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <469682198.3009110.1490482741522@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Stuart.  This is very important for people to understand.  It's a very important local fight. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Stuart Levy via Peace-discuss wrote: _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From baldwinricky at yahoo.com Sat Mar 25 22:59:01 2017 From: baldwinricky at yahoo.com (Ricky Baldwin) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 22:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Nursing Home Days of Action this Weekend! In-Reply-To: References: <805944064.4600975.1490451736078@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <469682198.3009110.1490482741522@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Stuart.  This is very important for people to understand.  It's a very important local fight. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Stuart Levy via Peace-discuss wrote: _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r-szoke at illinois.edu Sun Mar 26 00:42:30 2017 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 00:42:30 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] U.S.-Led Coalition Confirms Strikes Hit Mosul Site Where Civilians Died References: <58D7018E.00000006@pmta04.ewr1.nytimes.com> Message-ID: <6A310ADA-44DC-4B5A-A2E8-3B70A80F6928@illinois.edu> Begin forwarded message: From: r-szoke > Subject: NYTimes.com: U.S.-Led Coalition Confirms Strikes Hit Mosul Site Where Civilians Died Date: March 25, 2017 at 6:47:26 PM CDT Note that DJT, as the Commander in Chief, is ultimately & solely responsible, morally, for all of these deaths, since he & he alone, among all mortals, had the power to prevent all these deaths with a word or a stroke of the pen, but refused to do so. This, at least, was the doctrine AWARE earlier imbibed concerning the demon Obama; we now need to find out whether this high & holy doctrine somehow became “inoperative” (in Nixonite terms) on the afternoon of January 20th, 2017. Sent by r-szoke at illinois.edu: [http://i1.nyt.com/images/misc/nytlogo194x27.gif] [https://www.nytimes.com/images/common/icons/t_wb_75.gif] U.S.-Led Coalition Confirms Strikes Hit Mosul Site Where Civilians Died By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and TIM ARANGO The Pentagon had acknowledged on Friday that it was investigating reports that its airstrikes had caused deaths in Mosul. Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser: https://nyti.ms/2ohzcfe Copyright 2017 | The New York Times Company | NYTimes.com 620 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10018 [http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=hdaNaYedr2/IomeWRKt0nffrak8aSGLbvtkkq/r7ihwOf5XePlpJ1w==&user_id=ee7558d54531b290bd05280f4b7d6eb4&email_type=eta&task_id=1490485646311664®i_id=0] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Sun Mar 26 00:51:08 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:51:08 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] U.S.-Led Coalition Confirms Strikes Hit Mosul Site Where Civilians Died In-Reply-To: <6A310ADA-44DC-4B5A-A2E8-3B70A80F6928@illinois.edu> References: <58D7018E.00000006@pmta04.ewr1.nytimes.com> <6A310ADA-44DC-4B5A-A2E8-3B70A80F6928@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <5596E362-85BF-402F-A469-4050106B0242@illinois.edu> The president at the time is not "solely responsible” for the more than 20 million deaths in 37 nations caused by the US government in the last two generations. The responsibility extends to us, as citizens of an ostensibly democratic polity. "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our [political] stars [alone], / But in ourselves, that we are underlings.” —CGE > On Mar 25, 2017, at 7:42 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss wrote: > > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: r-szoke >> Subject: NYTimes.com: U.S.-Led Coalition Confirms Strikes Hit Mosul Site Where Civilians Died >> Date: March 25, 2017 at 6:47:26 PM CDT >> > Note that DJT, as the Commander in Chief, is ultimately & solely responsible, morally, for all of these deaths, since he & he alone, among all mortals, had the power to prevent all these deaths with a word or a stroke of the pen, but refused to do so. This, at least, was the doctrine AWARE earlier imbibed concerning the demon Obama; we now need to find out whether this high & holy doctrine somehow became “inoperative” (in Nixonite terms) on the afternoon of January 20th, 2017. >> >> Sent by r-szoke at illinois.edu: >> >> U.S.-Led Coalition Confirms Strikes Hit Mosul Site Where Civilians Died >> BY MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT AND TIM ARANGO >> >> The Pentagon had acknowledged on Friday that it was investigating reports that its airstrikes had caused deaths in Mosul. >> Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser: https://nyti.ms/2ohzcfe >> >> >> Copyright 2017 | The New York Times Company | NYTimes.com 620 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10018 >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Mar 26 13:29:07 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 13:29:07 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: References: <61854989.1720.0@wordpress.com> Message-ID: This article is about Thailand, however if one only reads the last two paragraphs, they will see there are similarities between many nations and our own. Begin forwarded message: From: Uglytruth-Thailand > Subject: [New post] Soldiers murder young Lahu activist in cold blood Date: March 25, 2017 at 22:12:37 PDT To: karenaram at hotmail.com New post on Uglytruth-Thailand [http://s0.wp.com/i/emails/blavatar.png] [http://2.gravatar.com/avatar/b94c98491e599510a5ec039e64af3261?s=50&d=identicon&r=G] Soldiers murder young Lahu activist in cold blood by uglytruththailand Giles Ji Ungpakorn On the 17th March soldiers in Chiang Mai shot down Chaiyapoom Pasae, a 17 year old Lahu activist. The killing was committed in cold blood. A villager who witnessed the event, which took place at a military check point, told Thai PBS news channel that soldiers dragged Chaiyapoom out of his car and beat him up, stamping on his face. They fired two warning shots and then deliberately let him go. While he was running away they shot him dead. [See news report here https://prachatai.com/english/node/7013 ]. [https://uglytruththailand.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/33170483730_79df2755e2_z.jpg?w=300] Chaiyapoom was a well-known Lahu activist who was engaged in cultural youth work among the Lahu people in order to help them avoid taking drugs. He wrote songs and received a prize for a short film that he directed. Another young man who was the driver of the car was arrested and charged with narcotics offences. This young man has been detained in prison because his family cannot come up with the 2 million baht bail set by the courts. The soldier who murdered Chaiyapoom was briefly questioned by police and given bail until his court hearing. Military sources claimed that Chaiyapoom attacked them with a knife and was shot “while trying to escape”. The military also claimed that he tried to throw a bomb at them. Conveniently after the event, drugs were found in his car. Thai police and military are famous for planting drugs and weapons on people after they shoot them or after they raid their homes. Villagers who witnessed Chaiyapoom's murder said security forces planted drugs in his car after the shooting. There are contradictory reports about whether the military check point had any CCTV. It is usual for check points to have CCTV to take pictures of cars passing through the check points. No CCTV video clips have been released, despite damands for this. Some military sources say there was no CCTV while others claim they have CCTV evidence. Military and police sources also claim Chaiyapoom had "too much money" in his bank account and that he telephoned people and spoke to them in his Lahu language! [https://uglytruththailand.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/17309450_1394323280626126_1305642644966753924_n.jpg?w=239] General Wijuk Siribanpot, commander of the 3rd Region Army General Wijuk Siribanpot, commander of the 3rd Region Army gave a televised interview saying that if he had been at the scene he would have switched his gun to automatic mode and riddled Chaiyapoom with bullets. Members of the Lahu community report that there was long-standing ill feeling between locals in Chaiyapoom's village and members of the security forces. Police and soldiers have attacked and injured villagers in the past and they threatened people who exposed this on social media. Chaiyapoom’s elder brother has been threatened by someone who place a bullet on his door step. Recently another local was shot dead in cold blood at a check point in the same area. This case has not been properly investigated. A local academic commented that it would be very stupid for anyone to try and transport drugs through the permanent check point where Chaiyapoom was murdered. Drug smugglers used other routes to avoid check points. It is normal for members of the Thai security forces to be able to commit crimes with impunity. No police or soldiers were ever charged with murder following ex-Prime Minister Taksin’s bloody war on drugs where 3000 people were killed without trial. Many of those killed or disappeared in Taksin’s war were from minority ethnic groups. No members of the security forces has ever been charged with the cold-blooded killing of unarmed red shirt protesters who were demanding democratic elections. General Prayut, the present Thai dictator was in charge of the military at the time. The Thai State is run by nationalists who are wedded to the extremist ideology of “Nation, Religion and Monarchy”. The military, who are in charge of the country, have always subscribed to this ideology in an aggressive manner. From Privy Council Head, General Prem, down to various local commanders, the notion that the country is peopled by citizens of various non-Thai ethnicities is deemed to be blasphemy. All Thai schools enforce the Thai language and students who speak to each other in local dialects or languages are often punished. Manic flag waving is encouraged and every citizen is supposed to stand to attention twice a day when the Thai State’s national anthem is played in public places. The lèse-majesté law is designed to support this nationalist ideology and also to protect the elites, especially the military, because the military claim to be the guardians of the monarchy. The religion in this racist ideology is of course Buddhism, thus excluding Islam and other faiths including animism. This racist nationalist ideology results in the oppression of Muslim Malays in Patani and people who live in remote mountainous areas of the north and west. People from ethnic minority groups in the north and west of the country, like the Lahu, who have lived either side of the various nation state borders for centuries, are not regarded as “true citizens”. Many are denied Thai citizenship despite being born within Thailand. They hold special identity cards which prevent them travelling outside their local areas without permission from the military and local authorities. Many are forced to register themselves with Thai-language names rather than using their real ethnic names. In Thai society in general, it is still acceptable for people to refer to various ethnic groups using racist names rather than showing them any respect. Because people from ethnic groups were so poor that they often had to rely on growing opium or being involved in the drug trade, everyone is seen as being involved with drugs. Yet the drug trade is controlled by top military and police officials and gangster politicians from Bangkok. uglytruththailand | March 26, 2017 at 5:12 am | Tags: Chaiyapoom Pasae, Giles Ji Ungpakorn, impunity, Thai military, Thai politics, War on drugs | Categories: Thai politics | URL: http://wp.me/p4bxj7-rK Unsubscribe to no longer receive posts from Uglytruth-Thailand. Change your email settings at Manage Subscriptions. Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: https://uglytruththailand.wordpress.com/2017/03/26/soldiers-murder-young-lahu-activist-in-cold-blood/ Thanks for flying with [https://s0.wp.com/i/emails/blavatar-default.png] WordPress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Mar 26 13:29:07 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 13:29:07 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: References: <61854989.1720.0@wordpress.com> Message-ID: This article is about Thailand, however if one only reads the last two paragraphs, they will see there are similarities between many nations and our own. Begin forwarded message: From: Uglytruth-Thailand > Subject: [New post] Soldiers murder young Lahu activist in cold blood Date: March 25, 2017 at 22:12:37 PDT To: karenaram at hotmail.com New post on Uglytruth-Thailand [http://s0.wp.com/i/emails/blavatar.png] [http://2.gravatar.com/avatar/b94c98491e599510a5ec039e64af3261?s=50&d=identicon&r=G] Soldiers murder young Lahu activist in cold blood by uglytruththailand Giles Ji Ungpakorn On the 17th March soldiers in Chiang Mai shot down Chaiyapoom Pasae, a 17 year old Lahu activist. The killing was committed in cold blood. A villager who witnessed the event, which took place at a military check point, told Thai PBS news channel that soldiers dragged Chaiyapoom out of his car and beat him up, stamping on his face. They fired two warning shots and then deliberately let him go. While he was running away they shot him dead. [See news report here https://prachatai.com/english/node/7013 ]. [https://uglytruththailand.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/33170483730_79df2755e2_z.jpg?w=300] Chaiyapoom was a well-known Lahu activist who was engaged in cultural youth work among the Lahu people in order to help them avoid taking drugs. He wrote songs and received a prize for a short film that he directed. Another young man who was the driver of the car was arrested and charged with narcotics offences. This young man has been detained in prison because his family cannot come up with the 2 million baht bail set by the courts. The soldier who murdered Chaiyapoom was briefly questioned by police and given bail until his court hearing. Military sources claimed that Chaiyapoom attacked them with a knife and was shot “while trying to escape”. The military also claimed that he tried to throw a bomb at them. Conveniently after the event, drugs were found in his car. Thai police and military are famous for planting drugs and weapons on people after they shoot them or after they raid their homes. Villagers who witnessed Chaiyapoom's murder said security forces planted drugs in his car after the shooting. There are contradictory reports about whether the military check point had any CCTV. It is usual for check points to have CCTV to take pictures of cars passing through the check points. No CCTV video clips have been released, despite damands for this. Some military sources say there was no CCTV while others claim they have CCTV evidence. Military and police sources also claim Chaiyapoom had "too much money" in his bank account and that he telephoned people and spoke to them in his Lahu language! [https://uglytruththailand.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/17309450_1394323280626126_1305642644966753924_n.jpg?w=239] General Wijuk Siribanpot, commander of the 3rd Region Army General Wijuk Siribanpot, commander of the 3rd Region Army gave a televised interview saying that if he had been at the scene he would have switched his gun to automatic mode and riddled Chaiyapoom with bullets. Members of the Lahu community report that there was long-standing ill feeling between locals in Chaiyapoom's village and members of the security forces. Police and soldiers have attacked and injured villagers in the past and they threatened people who exposed this on social media. Chaiyapoom’s elder brother has been threatened by someone who place a bullet on his door step. Recently another local was shot dead in cold blood at a check point in the same area. This case has not been properly investigated. A local academic commented that it would be very stupid for anyone to try and transport drugs through the permanent check point where Chaiyapoom was murdered. Drug smugglers used other routes to avoid check points. It is normal for members of the Thai security forces to be able to commit crimes with impunity. No police or soldiers were ever charged with murder following ex-Prime Minister Taksin’s bloody war on drugs where 3000 people were killed without trial. Many of those killed or disappeared in Taksin’s war were from minority ethnic groups. No members of the security forces has ever been charged with the cold-blooded killing of unarmed red shirt protesters who were demanding democratic elections. General Prayut, the present Thai dictator was in charge of the military at the time. The Thai State is run by nationalists who are wedded to the extremist ideology of “Nation, Religion and Monarchy”. The military, who are in charge of the country, have always subscribed to this ideology in an aggressive manner. From Privy Council Head, General Prem, down to various local commanders, the notion that the country is peopled by citizens of various non-Thai ethnicities is deemed to be blasphemy. All Thai schools enforce the Thai language and students who speak to each other in local dialects or languages are often punished. Manic flag waving is encouraged and every citizen is supposed to stand to attention twice a day when the Thai State’s national anthem is played in public places. The lèse-majesté law is designed to support this nationalist ideology and also to protect the elites, especially the military, because the military claim to be the guardians of the monarchy. The religion in this racist ideology is of course Buddhism, thus excluding Islam and other faiths including animism. This racist nationalist ideology results in the oppression of Muslim Malays in Patani and people who live in remote mountainous areas of the north and west. People from ethnic minority groups in the north and west of the country, like the Lahu, who have lived either side of the various nation state borders for centuries, are not regarded as “true citizens”. Many are denied Thai citizenship despite being born within Thailand. They hold special identity cards which prevent them travelling outside their local areas without permission from the military and local authorities. Many are forced to register themselves with Thai-language names rather than using their real ethnic names. In Thai society in general, it is still acceptable for people to refer to various ethnic groups using racist names rather than showing them any respect. 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URL: From kmedina67 at gmail.com Sun Mar 26 22:24:16 2017 From: kmedina67 at gmail.com (Karen Medina) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 17:24:16 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] looking for current numbers of military personnel Message-ID: Dear Peace-discuss, I find this interesting. I was searching for the numbers of U.S. military troops we currently have in countries. The website of DMDC is off-line. The Defense Manpower Data Center is widely quoted as the official count of military personnel. https://www.dmdc.osd.mil Each year since 1950, the U.S. Department of Defense has provided on its web site detailed information about the deployment of American troops around the world. Other websites that are down: us.army.mil The Marine Corps website even has broken links: “To find more information about Marine Corps installations, please visit the following link: http://www.usmc.mil/units/Pages/category.aspx . This link is broken so defaults back to the www.marines.mil front page I will continue looking for the current information. I just thought I would share the "Wow, it has always been here but now it is not" discovery. -- karen medina "The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - Mark Twain -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Mon Mar 27 01:06:32 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 20:06:32 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] looking for current numbers of military personnel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3FFD98BA-446C-43EE-A683-015E21C5C247@illinois.edu> Keep up the good work. I'll use it in the AWARE flyer for Saturday’s demonstration. > On Mar 26, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Karen Medina via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Dear Peace-discuss, > > I find this interesting. > I was searching for the numbers of U.S. military troops we currently have in countries. > > > The website of DMDC is off-line. The Defense Manpower Data Center is widely quoted as the official count of military personnel. https://www.dmdc.osd.mil > > Each year since 1950, the U.S. Department of Defense has provided on its web site detailed information about the deployment of American troops around the world. > > Other websites that are down: > us.army.mil > The Marine Corps website even has broken links: “To find more information about Marine Corps installations, please visit the following link: http://www.usmc.mil/units/Pages/category.aspx . This link is broken so defaults back to the www.marines.mil front page > > > I will continue looking for the current information. I just thought I would share the "Wow, it has always been here but now it is not" discovery. > > > > -- karen medina > "The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - Mark Twain > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 27 03:05:21 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 03:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] AIPAC speakers References: <614124426.10989447.1490583921772.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <614124426.10989447.1490583921772@mail.yahoo.com> One can click on "members of Congress" to see the bipartisan display of servility, including our own Tammy Duckworth. AIPAC Policy Conference 2017 | | | | | | | | | | | AIPAC Policy Conference 2017 The largest gathering of America's pro-Israel community. | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Mon Mar 27 03:32:21 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 22:32:21 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] looking for current numbers of military personnel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96BF9C98-0FB1-42B2-B848-137DCEAF767B@illinois.edu> http://www.visualcapitalist.com/u-s-military-personnel-deployments-country/ > On Mar 26, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Karen Medina via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Dear Peace-discuss, > > I find this interesting. > I was searching for the numbers of U.S. military troops we currently have in countries. > > > The website of DMDC is off-line. The Defense Manpower Data Center is widely quoted as the official count of military personnel. https://www.dmdc.osd.mil > > Each year since 1950, the U.S. Department of Defense has provided on its web site detailed information about the deployment of American troops around the world. > > Other websites that are down: > us.army.mil > The Marine Corps website even has broken links: “To find more information about Marine Corps installations, please visit the following link: http://www.usmc.mil/units/Pages/category.aspx . This link is broken so defaults back to the www.marines.mil front page > > > I will continue looking for the current information. I just thought I would share the "Wow, it has always been here but now it is not" discovery. > > > > -- karen medina > "The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - Mark Twain > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kmedina67 at gmail.com Mon Mar 27 03:54:35 2017 From: kmedina67 at gmail.com (kmedina67) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 22:54:35 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] looking for current numbers of military personnel Message-ID: <5c7ge36pdxuy6w468r6q4jve.1490586875084@email.android.com> Nice!Wow. Look at the numbers in:Canada!Geemany!And domestic!  Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message --------From: "Carl G. Estabrook" Date: 3/26/17 22:32 (GMT-06:00) To: Karen Medina Cc: Peace-discuss List Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] looking for current numbers of military personnel http://www.visualcapitalist.com/u-s-military-personnel-deployments-country/ On Mar 26, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Karen Medina via Peace-discuss wrote: Dear Peace-discuss, I find this interesting. I was searching for the numbers of U.S. military troops we currently have in countries. The website of DMDC is off-line. The Defense Manpower Data Center is widely quoted as the official count of military personnel. https://www.dmdc.osd.mil Each year since 1950, the U.S. Department of Defense has provided on its web site detailed information about the deployment of American troops around the world. Other websites that are down: us.army.mil The Marine Corps website even has broken links: “To find more information about Marine Corps installations, please visit the following link: http://www.usmc.mil/units/Pages/category.aspx . This link is broken so defaults back to the www.marines.mil front page  I will continue looking for the current information. I just thought I would share the "Wow, it has always been here but now it is not" discovery. -- karen medina "The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - Mark Twain _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kmedina67 at gmail.com Mon Mar 27 03:59:23 2017 From: kmedina67 at gmail.com (kmedina67) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 22:59:23 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] looking for current numbers of military personnel Message-ID: Even his link to the February 2017 report gets a 404 message -------- Original message -------- Nice!Wow. Look at the numbers in:Canada!Germany!And domestic!  Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message --------From: "Carl" http://www.visualcapitalist.com/u-s-military-personnel-deployments-country/ Dear Peace-discuss, I find this interesting. I was searching for the numbers of U.S. military troops we currently have in countries. The website of DMDC is off-line. The Defense Manpower Data Center is widely quoted as the official count of military personnel. https://www.dmdc.osd.mil Each year since 1950, the U.S. Department of Defense has provided on its web site detailed information about the deployment of American troops around the world. Other websites that are down: us.army.mil The Marine Corps website even has broken links: “To find more information about Marine Corps installations, please visit the following link: http://www.usmc.mil/units/Pages/category.aspx . This link is broken so defaults back to the www.marines.mil front page  I will continue looking for the current information. I just thought I would share the "Wow, it has always been here but now it is not" discovery.  -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kmedina67 at gmail.com Mon Mar 27 04:08:26 2017 From: kmedina67 at gmail.com (kmedina67) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 23:08:26 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Re: looking for current numbers of military personnel Message-ID: Dear Roger, I think the terrorists would avoid the military and go for the unarmed general population. Maybe we should hide the population sizes of towns and cities. -karen medina -------- Original message --------From: Roger Helbig When did you last look at these sites?   I expect that some are no longer there because of worldwide terrorism threat - enemies like ISIS want to know where the military forces are deployed so that they can target them.  I used to get a Pentagon phone directory - they have not been available since 9/11 - my directory enabled me to call Ernie Fitzgerald, "the Dean of Whistleblowers" in his Air Force office and that led me to Senator David Pryor.  I was really glad that I had simply asked for one every year. Roger----- On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 3:24 PM,  The Defense Manpower Data Center is widely quoted as the official https://www.dmdc.osd.mil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuartnlevy at gmail.com Mon Mar 27 04:13:38 2017 From: stuartnlevy at gmail.com (Stuart Levy) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 23:13:38 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] looking for current numbers of military personnel In-Reply-To: <96BF9C98-0FB1-42B2-B848-137DCEAF767B@illinois.edu> References: <96BF9C98-0FB1-42B2-B848-137DCEAF767B@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Very neat graph! I looked for the source. The page mentions "SOURCE: DoD, SIPRI (2015 data), Politico". It may well be that Politico used the data which had been there but now is inaccessible. On 3/26/17 10:32 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote: > http://www.visualcapitalist.com/u-s-military-personnel-deployments-country/ > > > >> On Mar 26, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Karen Medina via Peace-discuss >> > > wrote: >> >> Dear Peace-discuss, >> >> I find this interesting. >> I was searching for the numbers of U.S. military troops we currently >> have in countries. >> >> >> The website of DMDC is off-line. The Defense Manpower Data Center is >> widely quoted as the official count of military personnel. >> https://www.dmdc.osd.mil >> >> >> Each year since 1950, the U.S. Department of Defense has provided on >> its web site detailed information about the deployment of American >> troops around the world. >> >> Other websites that are down: >> us.army.mil >> The Marine Corps website even has broken links: “To find more >> information about Marine Corps installations, please visit the >> following link: http://www.usmc.mil/units/Pages/category.aspx . This >> link is broken so defaults back to the www.marines.mil >> front page >> >> >> I will continue looking for the current information. I just thought I >> would share the "Wow, it has always been here but now it is not" >> discovery. >> >> >> -- karen medina >> "The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - >> Mark Twain >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Mar 27 11:45:32 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 11:45:32 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] looking for current numbers of military personnel In-Reply-To: References: <96BF9C98-0FB1-42B2-B848-137DCEAF767B@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Of particular interest is the over 34,000 (unknown/unspecified.) On Mar 26, 2017, at 21:13, Stuart Levy via Peace-discuss > wrote: Very neat graph! I looked for the source. The page mentions "SOURCE: DoD, SIPRI (2015 data), Politico". It may well be that Politico used the data which had been there but now is inaccessible. On 3/26/17 10:32 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote: http://www.visualcapitalist.com/u-s-military-personnel-deployments-country/ On Mar 26, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Karen Medina via Peace-discuss > wrote: Dear Peace-discuss, I find this interesting. I was searching for the numbers of U.S. military troops we currently have in countries. The website of DMDC is off-line. The Defense Manpower Data Center is widely quoted as the official count of military personnel. https://www.dmdc.osd.mil Each year since 1950, the U.S. Department of Defense has provided on its web site detailed information about the deployment of American troops around the world. Other websites that are down: us.army.mil The Marine Corps website even has broken links: “To find more information about Marine Corps installations, please visit the following link: http://www.usmc.mil/units/Pages/category.aspx . This link is broken so defaults back to the www.marines.mil front page I will continue looking for the current information. 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URL: From baldwinricky at yahoo.com Mon Mar 27 13:30:31 2017 From: baldwinricky at yahoo.com (Ricky Baldwin) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] looking for current numbers of military personnel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74992797.3831073.1490621432006@mail.yahoo.com> Tomorrow's Battlefield, a book about recent deployments in Africa, includes some stories of official attempts to dodge these questions.  And the subsequent attempts of the military to deny all denials... Well, check it out if you have time.  Paints a rather alarming picture of the 21st century version of deployments. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Karen Medina via Peace-discuss wrote: Dear Peace-discuss, I find this interesting. I was searching for the numbers of U.S. military troops we currently have in countries. The website of DMDC is off-line. The Defense Manpower Data Center is widely quoted as the official count of military personnel. https://www.dmdc.osd.mil Each year since 1950, the U.S. Department of Defense hasprovided on its web site detailed information about the deployment of Americantroops around the world. Other websites that are down: us.army.mil The Marine Corps website even has broken links: “To find more information about Marine Corps installations, please visit the following link: http://www.usmc.mil/units/Pages/category.aspx . This link is broken so defaults back to the www.marines.mil front page  I will continue looking for the current information. I just thought I would share the "Wow, it has always been here but now it is not" discovery. -- karen medina "The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - Mark Twain _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From baldwinricky at yahoo.com Mon Mar 27 13:30:31 2017 From: baldwinricky at yahoo.com (Ricky Baldwin) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] looking for current numbers of military personnel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74992797.3831073.1490621432006@mail.yahoo.com> Tomorrow's Battlefield, a book about recent deployments in Africa, includes some stories of official attempts to dodge these questions.  And the subsequent attempts of the military to deny all denials... Well, check it out if you have time.  Paints a rather alarming picture of the 21st century version of deployments. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Karen Medina via Peace-discuss wrote: Dear Peace-discuss, I find this interesting. I was searching for the numbers of U.S. military troops we currently have in countries. The website of DMDC is off-line. The Defense Manpower Data Center is widely quoted as the official count of military personnel. https://www.dmdc.osd.mil Each year since 1950, the U.S. Department of Defense hasprovided on its web site detailed information about the deployment of Americantroops around the world. Other websites that are down: us.army.mil The Marine Corps website even has broken links: “To find more information about Marine Corps installations, please visit the following link: http://www.usmc.mil/units/Pages/category.aspx . This link is broken so defaults back to the www.marines.mil front page  I will continue looking for the current information. I just thought I would share the "Wow, it has always been here but now it is not" discovery. -- karen medina "The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - Mark Twain _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 27 14:11:14 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 14:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Immigration and the working class References: <2063781498.5956328.1490623874777.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2063781498.5956328.1490623874777@mail.yahoo.com> The article on the nature of the local immigrant population and local efforts to support immigrants in yesterday's News-Gazette included this: "Immigration is "the engine of our community in many ways," Doyle said, noting that billionaire Shahid Khan, a Pakistani immigrant who lived at the University Y when he first came to Champaign, now provides jobs for thousands of residents." http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2017-03-26/c-us-message-youre-welcome-here.html Wow. How to unpack this, as they say in academia. It seems that a few years ago, the UAW was trying to organize the diverse workers in Khan's plant, with plenty of horror stories of their work conditions being told, at Channing-Murray and elsewhere. I haven't heard much since. We have an exploited immigrant community. We also have a highly successful and privileged immigrant community, obviously including on our campus, including both faculty and administrators. We have many highly-skilled immigrants working well-paid, professional jobs around our community. We have immigrants building local businesses. And we have fucking Shahid Khan as a local hero. A recent feature in the News-Gazette highlighted a collection of local immigrants--enormously motivated, skilled, and talented, and hardly oppressed in the larger scheme of things, including someone I consider a friend: http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2017-02-05/big-10-jeff-dalessio-feb-5-2017.html At the same time, we have a domestic working class--white, black, Latino, etc.--that is squeezed from all sides in all ways. In the zero-sum game that has become the neoliberal globalized economy, their educational and vocational opportunities have been limited in a number of ways. We have a public university that avidly recruits foreign and out-of-state students, primarily for economic reasons. Meanwhile, many domestic students of relatively modest means go into debt and have in many cases limited vocational opportunities. We have complicated relationships among the globalized economy, our aggressive wars (in the ME and Central America and beyond), immigrants, refugees, etc., some of which are personified in our local immigrant population, whether relatively privileged or oppressed. But discussion of those wars and of our general foreign policy  is of course kept apart from advocacy for immigrant rights, as are discussions of the ravages of globalized neoliberalism, which is part and parcel with fiscal austerity, of which working class citizens bear the brunt. Among local immigrants are those I have worked with in various ways, including professionally, including children at the school at which I volunteer. I have immigrant friends whom I truly love and have enriched my life enormously. In our high-powered analytical community, however, I perceive a reluctance to grapple with the relationships among globalization, economic inequality, trans-national global elites, and the relationship of these things to immigration and immigrant communities of various kinds at the local level, in the context of the struggle of the American working class. I perceive, rightly or wrongly, that such critiques are avoided because they might challenge the prevailing progressive/neoliberal norms of tolerance, as well as "problematize" standard criticism of those who voted for Donald Trump as racist and bigoted. Academia is negatively implicated in these pernicious trends, in myriad ways. But academia is, in the final analysis, all about self-congratulation, not self-criticism. Even our local right-wing newspaper is apparently on board with a rather sentimentalized and simplistic notion of immigration. And why wouldn't they be? Nothing about general support for immigrants challenges the neoliberal militarism of the ruling class, including the local bourgeoisie. After all, some immigrants enlist in our military and fight and die in our wars. Perhaps one day one of them will be featured in the weekly stories of "those who served." Carol Ammons and Scott Bennett are mentioned in yesterday's article. Neither of them would dare miss an opportunity to display their tolerance. But do they represent the interests of their citizen-constituents?  I think it's a fair question, but of course one that cannot be asked in the progressive community as it is currently constituted, especially insofar as it is constituted by the Democratic Party. DG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Mon Mar 27 14:51:20 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 09:51:20 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Immigration and the working class In-Reply-To: <2063781498.5956328.1490623874777@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2063781498.5956328.1490623874777.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2063781498.5956328.1490623874777@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B4BE4C3-F770-491C-99B9-FC95BC75E250@illinois.edu> Another result of considering ‘identity’ rather than class. Identity politics loudly condemns the obvious evils of discrimination as a substitute for having to consider the general exploitation by class. The substitution was a surrender by US liberals in the 1970s to the rise of neoliberalism ( = the assertion of the rights of wealth). Those liberals - often Democrats - abandoned the New Deal/Great Society tradition of class politics - the attempt to ameliorate the rigors of capitalism - and accepted the reassertion of the 'rights' of capital. But their bad conscience at this betrayal led them to champion ever more vociferously the claims of discriminated groups - blacks, women et al. - so long as there was no interference in the established forms of economic exploitation. (Hillary Clinton was the champion of identity politics in the recent election. The general uselessness of 40 years of identity politics for its supposed beneficiaries is illustrated by the fact that women and people of color made up the majority of the Trump coalition . They didn’t believe HRC and the Democrats - as they shouldn’t.) —CGE > On Mar 27, 2017, at 9:11 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: > > The article on the nature of the local immigrant population and local efforts to support immigrants in yesterday's News-Gazette included this: > > "Immigration is "the engine of our community in many ways," Doyle said, noting that billionaire Shahid Khan, a Pakistani immigrant who lived at the University Y when he first came to Champaign, now provides jobs for thousands of residents." > > http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2017-03-26/c-us-message-youre-welcome-here.html > > Wow. How to unpack this, as they say in academia. > > It seems that a few years ago, the UAW was trying to organize the diverse workers in Khan's plant, with plenty of horror stories of their work conditions being told, at Channing-Murray and elsewhere. I haven't heard much since. > > We have an exploited immigrant community. We also have a highly successful and privileged immigrant community, obviously including on our campus, including both faculty and administrators. We have many highly-skilled immigrants working well-paid, professional jobs around our community. We have immigrants building local businesses. > > And we have fucking Shahid Khan as a local hero. > > A recent feature in the News-Gazette highlighted a collection of local immigrants--enormously motivated, skilled, and talented, and hardly oppressed in the larger scheme of things, including someone I consider a friend: > > http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2017-02-05/big-10-jeff-dalessio-feb-5-2017.html > > At the same time, we have a domestic working class--white, black, Latino, etc.--that is squeezed from all sides in all ways. In the zero-sum game that has become the neoliberal globalized economy, their educational and vocational opportunities have been limited in a number of ways. We have a public university that avidly recruits foreign and out-of-state students, primarily for economic reasons. Meanwhile, many domestic students of relatively modest means go into debt and have in many cases limited vocational opportunities. > > We have complicated relationships among the globalized economy, our aggressive wars (in the ME and Central America and beyond), immigrants, refugees, etc., some of which are personified in our local immigrant population, whether relatively privileged or oppressed. But discussion of those wars and of our general foreign policy is of course kept apart from advocacy for immigrant rights, as are discussions of the ravages of globalized neoliberalism, which is part and parcel with fiscal austerity, of which working class citizens bear the brunt. > > Among local immigrants are those I have worked with in various ways, including professionally, including children at the school at which I volunteer. I have immigrant friends whom I truly love and have enriched my life enormously. > > In our high-powered analytical community, however, I perceive a reluctance to grapple with the relationships among globalization, economic inequality, trans-national global elites, and the relationship of these things to immigration and immigrant communities of various kinds at the local level, in the context of the struggle of the American working class. I perceive, rightly or wrongly, that such critiques are avoided because they might challenge the prevailing progressive/neoliberal norms of tolerance, as well as "problematize" standard criticism of those who voted for Donald Trump as racist and bigoted. > > Academia is negatively implicated in these pernicious trends, in myriad ways. But academia is, in the final analysis, all about self-congratulation, not self-criticism. > > Even our local right-wing newspaper is apparently on board with a rather sentimentalized and simplistic notion of immigration. And why wouldn't they be? Nothing about general support for immigrants challenges the neoliberal militarism of the ruling class, including the local bourgeoisie. After all, some immigrants enlist in our military and fight and die in our wars. Perhaps one day one of them will be featured in the weekly stories of "those who served." > > Carol Ammons and Scott Bennett are mentioned in yesterday's article. Neither of them would dare miss an opportunity to display their tolerance. But do they represent the interests of their citizen-constituents? I think it's a fair question, but of course one that cannot be asked in the progressive community as it is currently constituted, especially insofar as it is constituted by the Democratic Party. > > DG > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Mar 27 15:54:35 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:54:35 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] looking for current numbers of military personnel In-Reply-To: <74992797.3831073.1490621432006@mail.yahoo.com> References: <74992797.3831073.1490621432006@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ricky, I wasn’t able to access the website you refer to, then I realized I have the book. “Tomorrow’s Battlefield” US Proxy Wars and Secret Ops inAfrica. So for others, I suggest googling the author Nick Turse. Nick Turse is also the author of “The Changing Face of Empire” and “Kill Anything That Moves”. All worthwhile reading, and yes, he paints a very alarming picture of the 21st century, which we see unfolding now. On Mar 27, 2017, at 06:30, Ricky Baldwin via Peace-discuss > wrote: Tomorrow's Battlefield, a book about recent deployments in Africa, includes some stories of official attempts to dodge these questions. And the subsequent attempts of the military to deny all denials... Well, check it out if you have time. Paints a rather alarming picture of the 21st century version of deployments. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Karen Medina via Peace-discuss > wrote: Dear Peace-discuss, I find this interesting. I was searching for the numbers of U.S. military troops we currently have in countries. The website of DMDC is off-line. The Defense Manpower Data Center is widely quoted as the official count of military personnel. https://www.dmdc.osd.mil Each year since 1950, the U.S. Department of Defense has provided on its web site detailed information about the deployment of American troops around the world. Other websites that are down: us.army.mil The Marine Corps website even has broken links: “To find more information about Marine Corps installations, please visit the following link: http://www.usmc.mil/units/Pages/category.aspx . This link is broken so defaults back to the www.marines.mil front page I will continue looking for the current information. I just thought I would share the "Wow, it has always been here but now it is not" discovery. -- karen medina "The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - Mark Twain _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mar 27, 2017, at 06:30, Ricky Baldwin via Peace-discuss > wrote: Tomorrow's Battlefield, a book about recent deployments in Africa, includes some stories of official attempts to dodge these questions. And the subsequent attempts of the military to deny all denials... Well, check it out if you have time. Paints a rather alarming picture of the 21st century version of deployments. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Karen Medina via Peace-discuss > wrote: Dear Peace-discuss, I find this interesting. I was searching for the numbers of U.S. military troops we currently have in countries. The website of DMDC is off-line. The Defense Manpower Data Center is widely quoted as the official count of military personnel. https://www.dmdc.osd.mil Each year since 1950, the U.S. Department of Defense has provided on its web site detailed information about the deployment of American troops around the world. Other websites that are down: us.army.mil The Marine Corps website even has broken links: “To find more information about Marine Corps installations, please visit the following link: http://www.usmc.mil/units/Pages/category.aspx . This link is broken so defaults back to the www.marines.mil front page I will continue looking for the current information. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Mar 27 17:33:22 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:33:22 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] looking for current numbers of military personnel In-Reply-To: <419498F1-D80A-4411-A0BD-9F2EF243016E@illinois.edu> References: <74992797.3831073.1490621432006@mail.yahoo.com> <419498F1-D80A-4411-A0BD-9F2EF243016E@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Mort NYT has blocked me, given I’ve used up my quota this month, and I refuse to pay for their faux news, even though, on a rare occasion, they do publish an article of value. What I do know is that the US has at least 800 military bases in foreign lands, while China and Russia have no more than 12. Our major “drone” base is in Rammstein, Germany. It’s my understanding that the only two nations in Africa to have prevented a US base on its’ soil is Zimbabwe and Eritrea. I’m sure we have lesser known but every bit as lethal, elsewhere in the regions. In fact, I keep questioning our “troops” in resource rich, Nigeria, for how many years now? At least 3, searching for the lost girls kidnapped by Boko Haram, with little success. Or the Congo, where we have been chasing “Kony and his LRA” forever. On Mar 27, 2017, at 09:35, Brussel, Morton K > wrote: Check out: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03/22/us/is-americas-military-big-enough.html —mkb On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: Ricky, I wasn’t able to access the website you refer to, then I realized I have the book. “Tomorrow’s Battlefield” US Proxy Wars and Secret Ops inAfrica. So for others, I suggest googling the author Nick Turse. Nick Turse is also the author of “The Changing Face of Empire” and “Kill Anything That Moves”. All worthwhile reading, and yes, he paints a very alarming picture of the 21st century, which we see unfolding now. On Mar 27, 2017, at 06:30, Ricky Baldwin via Peace-discuss > wrote: Tomorrow's Battlefield, a book about recent deployments in Africa, includes some stories of official attempts to dodge these questions. And the subsequent attempts of the military to deny all denials... Well, check it out if you have time. Paints a rather alarming picture of the 21st century version of deployments. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Karen Medina via Peace-discuss > wrote: Dear Peace-discuss, I find this interesting. I was searching for the numbers of U.S. military troops we currently have in countries. The website of DMDC is off-line. The Defense Manpower Data Center is widely quoted as the official count of military personnel. https://www.dmdc.osd.mil Each year since 1950, the U.S. Department of Defense has provided on its web site detailed information about the deployment of American troops around the world. Other websites that are down: us.army.mil The Marine Corps website even has broken links: “To find more information about Marine Corps installations, please visit the following link: http://www.usmc.mil/units/Pages/category.aspx . This link is broken so defaults back to the www.marines.mil front page I will continue looking for the current information. 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URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Tue Mar 28 13:26:59 2017 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 08:26:59 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] What America's Coup In Ukraine Did Message-ID: <004001d2a7c6$fb05a4e0$f110eea0$@comcast.net> What America's Coup In Ukraine Did Description: Protesters gathered to demonstrate as legislators voted in favour of a draft law to give special status to the eastern regions locked in conflict between the Ukrainian military and pro-Russia separatists Photograph: Sergey Dolzhenko/EPA Educate! Ukraine, US Foreign Policy, US Imperialism By Eric Zuesse, www.globalresearch.ca March 27th, 2017 Powered by Description: Google TranslateTranslate 6 Description: Print Friendly Above Photo: Sergey Dolzhenko/EPA On March 23rd, Gallup headlined "South Sudan, Haiti and Ukraine Lead World in Suffering", and the Ukrainian part of that can unquestionably be laid at the feet of U.S. President Barack Obama, who in February 2014 imposed upon Ukraine a very bloody coup (see it here), which he and his press misrepresented (and still misrepresent) as being (and still represent as having been) a 'democratic revolution', but was nothing of the sort, and actually was instead the start of the Ukrainian dictatorship and the hell that has since destroyed that country, and brought the people there into such misery, it's now by far the worst in Europe, and nearly tied with the worst in the entire world. America's criminal 'news' media never even reported the coup, nor that in 2011 the Obama regime began planning for a coup in Ukraine, and that by 1 March 2013 they started organizing it inside the U.S. Embassy there, and that they hired members of Ukraine's two racist-fascist, or nazi, political parties, Right Sector and Svoboda (which latter had been called the Social Nationalist Party of Ukraine until the CIA advised them to change it to Freedom Party, or "Svoboda" instead), and that in February 2014 they did it (and here's the 4 February 2014 phone call instructing the U.S. Ambassador whom to place in charge of the new regime when the coup will be completed), under the cover of authentic anti-corruption demonstrations that the Embassy organized on the Maidan Square in Kiev, demonstrations that the criminal U.S. 'news' media misrepresented as 'democracy demonstrations,' though Ukraine already had democracy (but still lots of corruption, even more than today's U.S. does, and the pontificating Obama said he was trying to end Ukraine's corruption - which instead actually soared after his coup there). The head of the 'private CIA' firm Stratfor said it was "the most blatant coup in history" but he couldn't say that to Americans, because he knows that our press is just a mouthpiece for the regime (just like it was during the lead-up to George W. Bush's equally unprovoked invasion of Iraq - for which America's 'news' media suffered likewise no penalties). When subsequently accused by neocons for his having said this, his response was "I told the business journal Kommersant that if the US were behind a coup in Kiev, it would have been the most blatant coup in history," As I pointed out when writing about that rejoinder of his, he had, in fact, made quite clear in his Kommersant interview, that it was, in his view "the most blatant coup in history," no conditionals on that. Everybody knows what Obama, and Clinton, and Sarkozy, did to Libya - in their zeal to eliminate yet another nation's leader who was friendly toward Russia (Muammar Gaddafi), they turned one of the highest-living-standard nations in Africa into a failed state and huge source of refugees (as well as of weapons that the Clinton State Department transferred to the jihadists in Syria to bring down Bashar al-Assad, another ally of Russia) - but the 'news' media have continued to hide what Obama (assisted by America's European allies, especially Poland and Netherlands, and also by America's apartheid Middle Eastern ally, Israel) did to Ukraine. I voted for Obama, partly because the insane McCain ("bomb, bomb, bomb Iran") and the creepy Romney ("Russia, this is, without question, our number one geopolitical foe") were denounced by the (duplicitous) Obama for saying such evil things, their aggressive international positions, which continued old Cold-War-era hostilities into the present, even after the Cold War had ended long ago (in 1991) (but only on the Russian side). I since have learned that in today's American political system, the same aristocracy controls both of our rotten political Parties, and American democracy no longer exists. (And the only scientific study of whether America between the years 1981 and 2002 was democratic found that it was not, and it already confirmed what Jimmy Carter later said on 28 July 2015: "Now it's just an oligarchy with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or being elected president. And the same thing applies to governors, and U.S. Senators and congress members." But yet our Presidents continue the line, now demonstrably become a myth, of 'American democracy', and use it as a sledgehammer against other governments, to 'justify' invading (or, in Ukraine's case, overthrowing via a 'democratic revolution') their lands (allies of Russia) such as in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and maybe even soon, Iran. Here are some of the events and important historical details along the way to Ukraine's plunge into a worse condition than most African nations: "Yanukovych's Removal Was Unconstitutional" "Obama Definitely Caused The Malaysian Airliner To Be Downed" "War on Donbass was planned to ignite a major war in Europe." "Our 'Enemies' In Ukraine Speak" "Meet Ukraine's Master Mass-Murderer: Dmitriy Yarosh" "Ukrainian Soldier Explains Why He Enjoys Killing Russians" "Russia's Leader Putin Rejects Ukrainian Separatists' Aim To Become Part Of Russia" "Gallup: Ukrainians Loathe the Kiev Government Imposed by Obama" Please send this article to every friend who is part of the majority that, as a Quinnipiac University poll published on March 22nd reported, "A total of 51 percent of voters say they can trust U.S. intelligence agencies to do what is right 'almost all of the time' or 'most of the time'" (and that level of trust was far higher than for the rotten press and for the rotten politicians), even after the CIA's rubber-stamping Bush's lies to invade Iraq, and after the FBI's shameless performance on Hillary Clinton's privatized State Department emails even after her smashing their cell-phones with hammers, etc., and all the other official cover-ups, with no American officials even so much as being charged for their rampant crimes against the American public. Besides: ever since the CIA's founding, it has had an "Operation Gladio" that specializes in organizing terrorist acts so as for them to be blamed on, first, communist countries when they existed; and, then, after the end of communism, on allies of Russia. Did the American dictatorship begin right after FDR died in 1945? How much longer will these lies succeed? For the people of Iraq, and of Syria, and of Ukraine, and many such countries, this dictatorship has destroyed their lives. Trusting the 'intelligence' services of a dictatorship doesn't make any sense at all. They're all working for the aristocracy, the billionaires - not for any public, anywhere; not here, not there, just nowhere. Should the cattle trust the feedlot-operator? Only ignorance can produce trust, under the conditions that actually exist. So, unless the idea is that ignorance is bliss, pass along the truth, when you find it, because it is very rare - and the system operates to keep it that way. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 29753 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 910 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1869 bytes Desc: not available URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Mar 29 01:42:55 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 20:42:55 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR In-Reply-To: <7AD73427-6AF0-4CAF-BC80-76EE41776305@illinois.edu> References: <7AD73427-6AF0-4CAF-BC80-76EE41776305@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <69C63627-8D2A-48F2-A4E5-BE3C6285D920@illinois.edu> "The Trump administration’s plan to splinter Syria and establish a permanent garrison in the eastern part of the country won’t be stopped unless the American people express their opposition en masse. Investigative journalist, James Carden, recommends that Congress pass a 'No Presidential Wars' resolution that 'would prohibit the president from 'initiating wars against state or non-state actors without prior congressional declarations under Article I, section 8, clause 11 (Declare War Clause).' It’s a great idea, but it won’t happen without pressure from below. People will have to get more involved if they want the bloodletting to end. There’s no other way.” http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/28/ending-syrias-nightmare-will-take-pressure-from-below/ —CGE From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Mar 29 12:39:57 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 12:39:57 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR In-Reply-To: <69C63627-8D2A-48F2-A4E5-BE3C6285D920@illinois.edu> References: <7AD73427-6AF0-4CAF-BC80-76EE41776305@illinois.edu> <69C63627-8D2A-48F2-A4E5-BE3C6285D920@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Excellent article, providing a bill, or opportunity for the American people to support and rise up against perpetual wars and destruction. It provides the background to the US goal of “regime change” and “division” creating further chaos in order to control. This is not an idea that Trump just came up with, its what the powers that be, behind the throne, Deep State made up of Think Tanks like the Brookings Institute, have had as their goal for a very long time. Begun under the Bush Administration and expanded by the Obama Administration, now under Trump. It’s time the American people recognize we are ruled by Oligarchs and our taxpayer money that should be providing jobs and healthcare is supporting these wars of aggression placing us on the doorstep of confrontation with Russia, who will not, and cannot back away from supporting Syria, because they know full well that they, after Iran are next on the list. The irony is that Russia maybe the only hope for peace, for vulnerable nations. Unless the American people take action to stop our Representatives from further carnage. > On Mar 28, 2017, at 18:42, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: > > "The Trump administration’s plan to splinter Syria and establish a permanent garrison in the eastern part of the country won’t be stopped unless the American people express their opposition en masse. Investigative journalist, James Carden, recommends that Congress pass a 'No Presidential Wars' resolution that 'would prohibit the president from 'initiating wars against state or non-state actors without prior congressional declarations under Article I, section 8, clause 11 (Declare War Clause).' It’s a great idea, but it won’t happen without pressure from below. People will have to get more involved if they want the bloodletting to end. There’s no other way.” > > http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/28/ending-syrias-nightmare-will-take-pressure-from-below/ > > —CGE > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Mar 29 12:42:15 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 12:42:15 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR In-Reply-To: References: <7AD73427-6AF0-4CAF-BC80-76EE41776305@illinois.edu> <69C63627-8D2A-48F2-A4E5-BE3C6285D920@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Basically this is what we thought we were doing with the War Powers Resolution of 1973. But all Presidents since then have perverted it and all Congresses have gone along with it. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:40 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G Cc: Peace-discuss List ; prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net; Peace Subject: Re: [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR Excellent article, providing a bill, or opportunity for the American people to support and rise up against perpetual wars and destruction. It provides the background to the US goal of “regime change” and “division” creating further chaos in order to control. This is not an idea that Trump just came up with, its what the powers that be, behind the throne, Deep State made up of Think Tanks like the Brookings Institute, have had as their goal for a very long time. Begun under the Bush Administration and expanded by the Obama Administration, now under Trump. It’s time the American people recognize we are ruled by Oligarchs and our taxpayer money that should be providing jobs and healthcare is supporting these wars of aggression placing us on the doorstep of confrontation with Russia, who will not, and cannot back away from supporting Syria, because they know full well that they, after Iran are next on the list. The irony is that Russia maybe the only hope for peace, for vulnerable nations. Unless the American people take action to stop our Representatives from further carnage. > On Mar 28, 2017, at 18:42, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: > > "The Trump administration’s plan to splinter Syria and establish a permanent garrison in the eastern part of the country won’t be stopped unless the American people express their opposition en masse. Investigative journalist, James Carden, recommends that Congress pass a 'No Presidential Wars' resolution that 'would prohibit the president from 'initiating wars against state or non-state actors without prior congressional declarations under Article I, section 8, clause 11 (Declare War Clause).' It’s a great idea, but it won’t happen without pressure from below. People will have to get more involved if they want the bloodletting to end. There’s no other way.” > > http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/28/ending-syrias-nightmare-will-take-pressure-from-below/ > > —CGE > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Mar 29 12:43:29 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 07:43:29 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE on the Air, Tuesday 28 March Message-ID: <18D2717E-F021-4DD6-ACC1-0E27F3A7BCD3@illinois.edu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTuWlzU0lCQ The principal topics of today’s program are ~ renewed US killing in the Mideast reveals President Trump not as a strong 'fascist' leader but as a weak executive, falling into the long-standing pattern of US energy imperialism in SW Asia. ~ "The Trump administration’s plan to splinter Syria and establish a permanent garrison in the eastern part of the country won’t be stopped unless the American people express their opposition en masse." [Mike Whitney] ~ "The movement to 'resist Trump' is basically a distractionary movement to stop the examination of neoliberal and neoconservative policy - identity politics as a cover. How bankrupt is this anti-Trump 'resistance'?" [J. B. Nicholson] Sources: ~ “Trump’s War on Terror Has Quickly Become as Barbaric and Savage as He Promised” | By Glenn Greenwald ~ “Operation Mosul: A Medieval Massacre” | By Stephen Lendman ~ “Trump's Wars” | By Emma Ashford The second half of the program is announced as a video of a speech by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, setting out a coherent Russian foreign and military policy, in contrast to Washington's obvious lies. It's available separately on YouTube, at . —CGE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Mar 29 12:50:02 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 12:50:02 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR References: <7AD73427-6AF0-4CAF-BC80-76EE41776305@illinois.edu> <69C63627-8D2A-48F2-A4E5-BE3C6285D920@illinois.edu> Message-ID: The only remedy is Impeachment. And I have worked incessantly to impeach Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama for presidential warmaking. With no success. The bottom line is that the US Congress basically supports presidential warmongering. Fab. Blow Jobs The House impeached Clinton For a blow job and lying about a blow job That is the standard for impeachment In the blowjob U.S. House of Representatives The Senate tried but did not convict Clinton For a blow job and lying about a blowjob In the blowjob U.S. Senate The House did not even impeach Bushie Junior For war and lying about war In the blowjob U.S. House The House did not even impeach Obama For war and lying about war In the blowjob U.S. House Ergo Blowjobs Are more important than wars To our Blowjob Congress Just a gang of blowjobs Republicans and Democrats Tweedle-dumb versus Tweedle-greed All in it for the blowjob by Wall Street Always the best Congress money can buy Government of the blowjobs, by the blowjobs, and for the blowjobs Government of the warmongers, by the warmongers, and for the warmongers Is not war the ultimate blowjob? Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:42 AM To: 'Karen Aram' ; Estabrook, Carl G Cc: Peace-discuss List ; prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net; Peace Subject: RE: [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR Basically this is what we thought we were doing with the War Powers Resolution of 1973. But all Presidents since then have perverted it and all Congresses have gone along with it. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:40 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G Cc: Peace-discuss List ; prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net; Peace Subject: Re: [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR Excellent article, providing a bill, or opportunity for the American people to support and rise up against perpetual wars and destruction. It provides the background to the US goal of “regime change” and “division” creating further chaos in order to control. This is not an idea that Trump just came up with, its what the powers that be, behind the throne, Deep State made up of Think Tanks like the Brookings Institute, have had as their goal for a very long time. Begun under the Bush Administration and expanded by the Obama Administration, now under Trump. It’s time the American people recognize we are ruled by Oligarchs and our taxpayer money that should be providing jobs and healthcare is supporting these wars of aggression placing us on the doorstep of confrontation with Russia, who will not, and cannot back away from supporting Syria, because they know full well that they, after Iran are next on the list. The irony is that Russia maybe the only hope for peace, for vulnerable nations. Unless the American people take action to stop our Representatives from further carnage. > On Mar 28, 2017, at 18:42, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: > > "The Trump administration’s plan to splinter Syria and establish a permanent garrison in the eastern part of the country won’t be stopped unless the American people express their opposition en masse. Investigative journalist, James Carden, recommends that Congress pass a 'No Presidential Wars' resolution that 'would prohibit the president from 'initiating wars against state or non-state actors without prior congressional declarations under Article I, section 8, clause 11 (Declare War Clause).' It’s a great idea, but it won’t happen without pressure from below. People will have to get more involved if they want the bloodletting to end. There’s no other way.” > > http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/28/ending-syrias-nightmare-will-take-pressure-from-below/ > > —CGE > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Mar 29 12:51:32 2017 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 12:51:32 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR References: <7AD73427-6AF0-4CAF-BC80-76EE41776305@illinois.edu> <69C63627-8D2A-48F2-A4E5-BE3C6285D920@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Sorry the spacing for my Blowjob Poem got thrown off by the interaction of the computer programs. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:50 AM To: 'Karen Aram' ; Estabrook, Carl G Cc: 'Peace-discuss List' ; 'prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net' ; 'Peace' Subject: RE: [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR The only remedy is Impeachment. And I have worked incessantly to impeach Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama for presidential warmaking. With no success. The bottom line is that the US Congress basically supports presidential warmongering. Fab. Blow Jobs The House impeached Clinton For a blow job and lying about a blow job That is the standard for impeachment In the blowjob U.S. House of Representatives The Senate tried but did not convict Clinton For a blow job and lying about a blowjob In the blowjob U.S. Senate The House did not even impeach Bushie Junior For war and lying about war In the blowjob U.S. House The House did not even impeach Obama For war and lying about war In the blowjob U.S. House Ergo Blowjobs Are more important than wars To our Blowjob Congress Just a gang of blowjobs Republicans and Democrats Tweedle-dumb versus Tweedle-greed All in it for the blowjob by Wall Street Always the best Congress money can buy Government of the blowjobs, by the blowjobs, and for the blowjobs Government of the warmongers, by the warmongers, and for the warmongers Is not war the ultimate blowjob? Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:42 AM To: 'Karen Aram' ; Estabrook, Carl G Cc: Peace-discuss List ; prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net; Peace Subject: RE: [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR Basically this is what we thought we were doing with the War Powers Resolution of 1973. But all Presidents since then have perverted it and all Congresses have gone along with it. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:40 AM To: Estabrook, Carl G Cc: Peace-discuss List ; prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net; Peace Subject: Re: [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR Excellent article, providing a bill, or opportunity for the American people to support and rise up against perpetual wars and destruction. It provides the background to the US goal of “regime change” and “division” creating further chaos in order to control. This is not an idea that Trump just came up with, its what the powers that be, behind the throne, Deep State made up of Think Tanks like the Brookings Institute, have had as their goal for a very long time. Begun under the Bush Administration and expanded by the Obama Administration, now under Trump. It’s time the American people recognize we are ruled by Oligarchs and our taxpayer money that should be providing jobs and healthcare is supporting these wars of aggression placing us on the doorstep of confrontation with Russia, who will not, and cannot back away from supporting Syria, because they know full well that they, after Iran are next on the list. The irony is that Russia maybe the only hope for peace, for vulnerable nations. Unless the American people take action to stop our Representatives from further carnage. > On Mar 28, 2017, at 18:42, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: > > "The Trump administration’s plan to splinter Syria and establish a permanent garrison in the eastern part of the country won’t be stopped unless the American people express their opposition en masse. Investigative journalist, James Carden, recommends that Congress pass a 'No Presidential Wars' resolution that 'would prohibit the president from 'initiating wars against state or non-state actors without prior congressional declarations under Article I, section 8, clause 11 (Declare War Clause).' It’s a great idea, but it won’t happen without pressure from below. People will have to get more involved if they want the bloodletting to end. There’s no other way.” > > http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/28/ending-syrias-nightmare-will-ta > ke-pressure-from-below/ > > —CGE > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Mar 29 14:03:18 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 14:03:18 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR In-Reply-To: References: <7AD73427-6AF0-4CAF-BC80-76EE41776305@illinois.edu> <69C63627-8D2A-48F2-A4E5-BE3C6285D920@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Francis, Unfortunately I must agree, the war powers will continue unabated because our Congress is as “controlled,” not all, but most, as the Administration. While it might be worthwhile, to give the “declaration of war” powers back to Congress, as our Constitution requires. There are too many proven ways of getting around it, and it will serve as “another distraction.” As to Impeachment, yes it seems that catching a President in the act of “fornication” or “talking to Russian Diplomats,” seems far more important than stopping our government from slaughtering millions of people. > On Mar 29, 2017, at 05:51, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > Sorry the spacing for my Blowjob Poem got thrown off by the interaction of the computer programs. > Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:50 AM > To: 'Karen Aram' ; Estabrook, Carl G > Cc: 'Peace-discuss List' ; 'prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net' ; 'Peace' > Subject: RE: [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR > > The only remedy is Impeachment. And I have worked incessantly to impeach Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama for presidential warmaking. With no success. The bottom line is that the US Congress basically supports presidential warmongering. Fab. > Blow Jobs > > The House impeached Clinton > For a blow job and lying about a blow job That is the standard for impeachment In the blowjob U.S. House of Representatives > > The Senate tried but did not convict Clinton For a blow job and lying about a blowjob In the blowjob U.S. Senate > > The House did not even impeach Bushie Junior For war and lying about war In the blowjob U.S. House > > The House did not even impeach Obama > For war and lying about war > In the blowjob U.S. House > > Ergo > Blowjobs > Are more important than wars > To our Blowjob Congress > > Just a gang of blowjobs > Republicans and Democrats > Tweedle-dumb versus Tweedle-greed > All in it for the blowjob by Wall Street Always the best Congress money can buy > > Government of the blowjobs, by the blowjobs, and for the blowjobs Government of the warmongers, by the warmongers, and for the warmongers Is not war the ultimate blowjob? > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:42 AM > To: 'Karen Aram' ; Estabrook, Carl G > Cc: Peace-discuss List ; prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net; Peace > Subject: RE: [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR > > Basically this is what we thought we were doing with the War Powers Resolution of 1973. But all Presidents since then have perverted it and all Congresses have gone along with it. > > Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:40 AM > To: Estabrook, Carl G > Cc: Peace-discuss List ; prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net; Peace > Subject: Re: [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR > > Excellent article, providing a bill, or opportunity for the American people to support and rise up against perpetual wars and destruction. > It provides the background to the US goal of “regime change” and “division” creating further chaos in order to control. > This is not an idea that Trump just came up with, its what the powers that be, behind the throne, Deep State made up of Think Tanks like the Brookings Institute, have had as their goal for a very long time. Begun under the Bush Administration and expanded by the Obama Administration, now under Trump. > > It’s time the American people recognize we are ruled by Oligarchs and our taxpayer money that should be providing jobs and healthcare is supporting these wars of aggression placing us on the doorstep of confrontation with Russia, who will not, and cannot back away from supporting Syria, because they know full well that they, after Iran are next on the list. > > The irony is that Russia maybe the only hope for peace, for vulnerable nations. Unless the American people take action to stop our Representatives from further carnage. > > >> On Mar 28, 2017, at 18:42, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: >> >> "The Trump administration’s plan to splinter Syria and establish a permanent garrison in the eastern part of the country won’t be stopped unless the American people express their opposition en masse. Investigative journalist, James Carden, recommends that Congress pass a 'No Presidential Wars' resolution that 'would prohibit the president from 'initiating wars against state or non-state actors without prior congressional declarations under Article I, section 8, clause 11 (Declare War Clause).' It’s a great idea, but it won’t happen without pressure from below. People will have to get more involved if they want the bloodletting to end. There’s no other way.” >> >> http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/28/ending-syrias-nightmare-will-ta >> ke-pressure-from-below/ >> >> —CGE >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Mar 29 14:04:46 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 14:04:46 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR In-Reply-To: References: <7AD73427-6AF0-4CAF-BC80-76EE41776305@illinois.edu> <69C63627-8D2A-48F2-A4E5-BE3C6285D920@illinois.edu> Message-ID: It came through fine on my end. > On Mar 29, 2017, at 05:51, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > Sorry the spacing for my Blowjob Poem got thrown off by the interaction of the computer programs. > Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:50 AM > To: 'Karen Aram' ; Estabrook, Carl G > Cc: 'Peace-discuss List' ; 'prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net' ; 'Peace' > Subject: RE: [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR > > The only remedy is Impeachment. And I have worked incessantly to impeach Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama for presidential warmaking. With no success. The bottom line is that the US Congress basically supports presidential warmongering. Fab. > Blow Jobs > > The House impeached Clinton > For a blow job and lying about a blow job That is the standard for impeachment In the blowjob U.S. House of Representatives > > The Senate tried but did not convict Clinton For a blow job and lying about a blowjob In the blowjob U.S. Senate > > The House did not even impeach Bushie Junior For war and lying about war In the blowjob U.S. House > > The House did not even impeach Obama > For war and lying about war > In the blowjob U.S. House > > Ergo > Blowjobs > Are more important than wars > To our Blowjob Congress > > Just a gang of blowjobs > Republicans and Democrats > Tweedle-dumb versus Tweedle-greed > All in it for the blowjob by Wall Street Always the best Congress money can buy > > Government of the blowjobs, by the blowjobs, and for the blowjobs Government of the warmongers, by the warmongers, and for the warmongers Is not war the ultimate blowjob? > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:42 AM > To: 'Karen Aram' ; Estabrook, Carl G > Cc: Peace-discuss List ; prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net; Peace > Subject: RE: [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR > > Basically this is what we thought we were doing with the War Powers Resolution of 1973. But all Presidents since then have perverted it and all Congresses have gone along with it. > > Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:40 AM > To: Estabrook, Carl G > Cc: Peace-discuss List ; prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net; Peace > Subject: Re: [Peace] On this week's AWARE ON THE AIR > > Excellent article, providing a bill, or opportunity for the American people to support and rise up against perpetual wars and destruction. > It provides the background to the US goal of “regime change” and “division” creating further chaos in order to control. > This is not an idea that Trump just came up with, its what the powers that be, behind the throne, Deep State made up of Think Tanks like the Brookings Institute, have had as their goal for a very long time. Begun under the Bush Administration and expanded by the Obama Administration, now under Trump. > > It’s time the American people recognize we are ruled by Oligarchs and our taxpayer money that should be providing jobs and healthcare is supporting these wars of aggression placing us on the doorstep of confrontation with Russia, who will not, and cannot back away from supporting Syria, because they know full well that they, after Iran are next on the list. > > The irony is that Russia maybe the only hope for peace, for vulnerable nations. Unless the American people take action to stop our Representatives from further carnage. > > >> On Mar 28, 2017, at 18:42, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace wrote: >> >> "The Trump administration’s plan to splinter Syria and establish a permanent garrison in the eastern part of the country won’t be stopped unless the American people express their opposition en masse. Investigative journalist, James Carden, recommends that Congress pass a 'No Presidential Wars' resolution that 'would prohibit the president from 'initiating wars against state or non-state actors without prior congressional declarations under Article I, section 8, clause 11 (Declare War Clause).' It’s a great idea, but it won’t happen without pressure from below. People will have to get more involved if they want the bloodletting to end. There’s no other way.” >> >> http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/28/ending-syrias-nightmare-will-ta >> ke-pressure-from-below/ >> >> —CGE >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Mar 29 23:47:59 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 23:47:59 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] More war crimes by the US Message-ID: * Print * Leaflet * Feedback * Share » US accused of war crimes in air strikes on Iraqi city of Mosul By Bill Van Auken 29 March 2017 Amnesty International issued a report Tuesday charging the US-led coalition besieging Mosul, Iraq’s second-largest city, with war crimes involving the “disproportionate and indiscriminate” bombing of residential areas that has slaughtered hundreds of civilian men, women and children. The report by the human rights group, which chronicles bloody incidents that took place in eastern Mosul during the end of 2016 and the beginning of this year, has been released amid mounting evidence that the Pentagon carried out one of its worst atrocities in decades in the March 17 bombing of the Jadida neighborhood in the densely populated western sector of the city. While earlier reports spoke of some 160 dead being pulled from the rubble left by the US airstrikes in Mosul’s Jadida district, on Monday the Iraqi Civil Defense Department released a report saying that 531 bodies have been recovered thus far. “We probably had a role in those casualties,” Lt. Gen. Stephen Townsend, the top US commander in Iraq and Syria, acknowledged to Pentagon reporters Tuesday. At the same time, however, Townsend suggested that the “the enemy had a hand in this,” alleging that there was no reason for civilians to have congregated inside buildings targeted by US warplanes other than their being exploited as “human shields.” This attempted alibi is contradicted by multiple reports from survivors of the bombing raid, who said that entire families, terrorized by US bombs as well as mortar attacks by Iraqi government forces, had huddled in basements of homes in the neighborhood. Indeed, before launching the offensive last fall, the US-backed Iraqi military dropped leaflets on Mosul, a city of 1.8 million people, urging residents to “shelter in place” rather than flee to safety. The US and Iraqi commanders on the ground apparently called in the air strikes to kill small numbers of ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) snipers located on rooftops, in the process reducing entire city blocks to rubble. General Townsend dismissed Washington’s responsibility for the carnage. “If the US did this,” said Townsend, it was an “unintentional accident of war.” Chillingly, he added that civilian casualties in western Mosul are “fairly predictable,” given its crowded residential neighborhoods and the intense street fighting. In other words, many more atrocities like that of March 17 are still to come. Iraqi vice president Osama al-Nujaifi, who is from Mosul and the most senior Sunni official in the country, described the US bombing as a “humanitarian catastrophe” that had resulted in the “martyrdom of hundreds of civilians.” He called for an emergency session of the Iraqi parliament along with an official investigation of the incident. He charged that the mass civilian casualties were the result of changed rules of engagement on the part of the US-led “coalition” that have minimized any attempt to protect the lives of unarmed men, women and children trapped in Mosul. This same charge was leveled by Iraqi officers cited by the New York Times Tuesday. According to the Times, the officers report that “the American-led coalition has been quicker to strike urban targets from the air with less time to weigh the risks for civilians. They say the change reflects a renewed push by the American military under the Trump administration to speed up the battle for Mosul.” In a report from the scene of the devastation, the Times described “a panorama of destruction in the neighborhood of Jadida so vast one resident compared the destruction to that of Hiroshima, Japan, where the United States dropped an atomic bomb in World War II. There was a charred arm, wrapped in a piece of red fabric, poking from the rubble; rescue workers in red jump suits who wore face masks to avoid the stench, some with rifles slung over their shoulders, searched the wreckage for bodies.” The newspaper reported that “One of the survivors, Omar Adnan, stood near his destroyed home on Sunday and held up a white sheet of paper with 27 names of his extended family members, either dead or missing, written in blue ink.” The Amnesty International report released Tuesday indicates that the atrocity in Jadida is only the bloodiest in a series of attacks carried out by US forces resulting in mass civilian casualties. “Evidence gathered on the ground in East Mosul points to an alarming pattern of US-led coalition airstrikes which have destroyed whole houses with entire families inside,” reports Amnesty’s senior crisis response adviser Donatella Rovera following field investigations in the war-ravaged city. “The high civilian toll suggests that coalition forces leading the offensive in Mosul have failed to take adequate precautions to prevent civilian deaths, in flagrant violation of international humanitarian law.” The Amnesty report quoted Wa’ad Ahmad al-Tai, a resident of the al-Zahra neighborhood of East Mosul, who said he and his family were among those who had followed the advice of the US-backed Iraqi government to stay in their homes rather than flee the siege. He recounted how his extended family had sought shelter in the two-story home of his brother: “We were all huddled in one room at the back of the house, 18 of us, three families. But when the house next door was bombed, it collapsed on us, precisely over the room we were sheltering in. My son Yusef, nine, and my daughter Shahad, three, were killed, together with my brother Mahmoud, his wife Manaya and their nine-year-old son Aws, and my niece Hanan. She was cradling her five-month-old daughter, who survived, thank God.” Hind Amir Ahmad, a 23-year-old woman who lost 11 relatives, recounted a similar attack in eastern Mosul that took place on December 13, 2016: “We were sleeping when the house literally collapsed on us. It was a miracle none of us was killed. We ran to my uncle’s house nearby. At about 2 p.m. that house too was bombed and collapsed on us … almost everyone in the house was killed—11 people. My cousin, two aunts and I were the only ones who survived. Everyone else died. It took us six days to find only pieces of their bodies, which we buried in a mass grave in a field nearby. ... I don’t know why we were bombed. All I know is that I have lost everyone who was dearest to me.” The Amnesty report also debunked the Pentagon’s attempt to justify the killing of Iraqi civilians with claims that ISIS is using the population as “human shields.” Even if the Islamist fighters showed indifference to human life, this did not justify the indiscriminate air strikes launched by US warplanes, the human rights group said. It also pointed out that the US-backed Iraqi military is setting up its own firing positions in and around civilian homes, exposing them to return fire from ISIS forces. As of March 21, the monitoring group Airwars had recorded over 1,000 “civilian casualty events” resulting from airstrikes by the US and its allies in both Iraq and Syria. The number of incidents has risen sharply in the course of the first three months of this year with the siege of Mosul and the preparations for a similar bloodbath in the ISIS-held Syrian city of Raqqa. The group pointed out that the US air strikes have far eclipsed those being conducted by Russia, which intervened in Syria in support of the government of President Bashar al-Assad. Yet the same US and Western media, which waged an intense propaganda campaign over civilian casualties caused by Russian air strikes against Al Qaeda positions in the Syrian city of Aleppo, has proven itself largely indifferent to the killing of Iraqi men, women and children in Mosul. Nor for that matter have the changed “rules of engagement” enacted by the Pentagon under the Trump administration elicited any protest from its ostensible political opponents in the Democratic Party. This is because, as the Amnesty report documents, the carnage in Mosul was already well under way before Barack Obama left the White House. The US escalation in Iraq and Syria enjoys bipartisan support. Launched under the pretense of a campaign against ISIS, which is itself the direct product of the US invasion and destruction of Iraq, followed by the proxy wars for regime change in Libya and Syria, the aim of the ever growing American intervention is to assert US imperialist hegemony over the entire oil-rich Middle East. The US pursuit of this geostrategic aim has already cost millions of lives over the past quarter century. Its aggressive renewal has been launched in preparation for far more dangerous confrontations with Washington’s chief global rivals, China and Russia. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Mar 29 23:47:59 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 23:47:59 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] More war crimes by the US Message-ID: * Print * Leaflet * Feedback * Share » US accused of war crimes in air strikes on Iraqi city of Mosul By Bill Van Auken 29 March 2017 Amnesty International issued a report Tuesday charging the US-led coalition besieging Mosul, Iraq’s second-largest city, with war crimes involving the “disproportionate and indiscriminate” bombing of residential areas that has slaughtered hundreds of civilian men, women and children. The report by the human rights group, which chronicles bloody incidents that took place in eastern Mosul during the end of 2016 and the beginning of this year, has been released amid mounting evidence that the Pentagon carried out one of its worst atrocities in decades in the March 17 bombing of the Jadida neighborhood in the densely populated western sector of the city. While earlier reports spoke of some 160 dead being pulled from the rubble left by the US airstrikes in Mosul’s Jadida district, on Monday the Iraqi Civil Defense Department released a report saying that 531 bodies have been recovered thus far. “We probably had a role in those casualties,” Lt. Gen. Stephen Townsend, the top US commander in Iraq and Syria, acknowledged to Pentagon reporters Tuesday. At the same time, however, Townsend suggested that the “the enemy had a hand in this,” alleging that there was no reason for civilians to have congregated inside buildings targeted by US warplanes other than their being exploited as “human shields.” This attempted alibi is contradicted by multiple reports from survivors of the bombing raid, who said that entire families, terrorized by US bombs as well as mortar attacks by Iraqi government forces, had huddled in basements of homes in the neighborhood. Indeed, before launching the offensive last fall, the US-backed Iraqi military dropped leaflets on Mosul, a city of 1.8 million people, urging residents to “shelter in place” rather than flee to safety. The US and Iraqi commanders on the ground apparently called in the air strikes to kill small numbers of ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) snipers located on rooftops, in the process reducing entire city blocks to rubble. General Townsend dismissed Washington’s responsibility for the carnage. “If the US did this,” said Townsend, it was an “unintentional accident of war.” Chillingly, he added that civilian casualties in western Mosul are “fairly predictable,” given its crowded residential neighborhoods and the intense street fighting. In other words, many more atrocities like that of March 17 are still to come. Iraqi vice president Osama al-Nujaifi, who is from Mosul and the most senior Sunni official in the country, described the US bombing as a “humanitarian catastrophe” that had resulted in the “martyrdom of hundreds of civilians.” He called for an emergency session of the Iraqi parliament along with an official investigation of the incident. He charged that the mass civilian casualties were the result of changed rules of engagement on the part of the US-led “coalition” that have minimized any attempt to protect the lives of unarmed men, women and children trapped in Mosul. This same charge was leveled by Iraqi officers cited by the New York Times Tuesday. According to the Times, the officers report that “the American-led coalition has been quicker to strike urban targets from the air with less time to weigh the risks for civilians. They say the change reflects a renewed push by the American military under the Trump administration to speed up the battle for Mosul.” In a report from the scene of the devastation, the Times described “a panorama of destruction in the neighborhood of Jadida so vast one resident compared the destruction to that of Hiroshima, Japan, where the United States dropped an atomic bomb in World War II. There was a charred arm, wrapped in a piece of red fabric, poking from the rubble; rescue workers in red jump suits who wore face masks to avoid the stench, some with rifles slung over their shoulders, searched the wreckage for bodies.” The newspaper reported that “One of the survivors, Omar Adnan, stood near his destroyed home on Sunday and held up a white sheet of paper with 27 names of his extended family members, either dead or missing, written in blue ink.” The Amnesty International report released Tuesday indicates that the atrocity in Jadida is only the bloodiest in a series of attacks carried out by US forces resulting in mass civilian casualties. “Evidence gathered on the ground in East Mosul points to an alarming pattern of US-led coalition airstrikes which have destroyed whole houses with entire families inside,” reports Amnesty’s senior crisis response adviser Donatella Rovera following field investigations in the war-ravaged city. “The high civilian toll suggests that coalition forces leading the offensive in Mosul have failed to take adequate precautions to prevent civilian deaths, in flagrant violation of international humanitarian law.” The Amnesty report quoted Wa’ad Ahmad al-Tai, a resident of the al-Zahra neighborhood of East Mosul, who said he and his family were among those who had followed the advice of the US-backed Iraqi government to stay in their homes rather than flee the siege. He recounted how his extended family had sought shelter in the two-story home of his brother: “We were all huddled in one room at the back of the house, 18 of us, three families. But when the house next door was bombed, it collapsed on us, precisely over the room we were sheltering in. My son Yusef, nine, and my daughter Shahad, three, were killed, together with my brother Mahmoud, his wife Manaya and their nine-year-old son Aws, and my niece Hanan. She was cradling her five-month-old daughter, who survived, thank God.” Hind Amir Ahmad, a 23-year-old woman who lost 11 relatives, recounted a similar attack in eastern Mosul that took place on December 13, 2016: “We were sleeping when the house literally collapsed on us. It was a miracle none of us was killed. We ran to my uncle’s house nearby. At about 2 p.m. that house too was bombed and collapsed on us … almost everyone in the house was killed—11 people. My cousin, two aunts and I were the only ones who survived. Everyone else died. It took us six days to find only pieces of their bodies, which we buried in a mass grave in a field nearby. ... I don’t know why we were bombed. All I know is that I have lost everyone who was dearest to me.” The Amnesty report also debunked the Pentagon’s attempt to justify the killing of Iraqi civilians with claims that ISIS is using the population as “human shields.” Even if the Islamist fighters showed indifference to human life, this did not justify the indiscriminate air strikes launched by US warplanes, the human rights group said. It also pointed out that the US-backed Iraqi military is setting up its own firing positions in and around civilian homes, exposing them to return fire from ISIS forces. As of March 21, the monitoring group Airwars had recorded over 1,000 “civilian casualty events” resulting from airstrikes by the US and its allies in both Iraq and Syria. The number of incidents has risen sharply in the course of the first three months of this year with the siege of Mosul and the preparations for a similar bloodbath in the ISIS-held Syrian city of Raqqa. The group pointed out that the US air strikes have far eclipsed those being conducted by Russia, which intervened in Syria in support of the government of President Bashar al-Assad. Yet the same US and Western media, which waged an intense propaganda campaign over civilian casualties caused by Russian air strikes against Al Qaeda positions in the Syrian city of Aleppo, has proven itself largely indifferent to the killing of Iraqi men, women and children in Mosul. Nor for that matter have the changed “rules of engagement” enacted by the Pentagon under the Trump administration elicited any protest from its ostensible political opponents in the Democratic Party. This is because, as the Amnesty report documents, the carnage in Mosul was already well under way before Barack Obama left the White House. The US escalation in Iraq and Syria enjoys bipartisan support. Launched under the pretense of a campaign against ISIS, which is itself the direct product of the US invasion and destruction of Iraq, followed by the proxy wars for regime change in Libya and Syria, the aim of the ever growing American intervention is to assert US imperialist hegemony over the entire oil-rich Middle East. The US pursuit of this geostrategic aim has already cost millions of lives over the past quarter century. Its aggressive renewal has been launched in preparation for far more dangerous confrontations with Washington’s chief global rivals, China and Russia. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Thu Mar 30 13:18:42 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. 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Testifying before the House Armed Services Committee, Votel, head of the US Central Command, denounced Iran for its “destabilising role” in the region. “I believe that Iran is operating in what I call a gray zone,” he said. “And it’s an area between normal competition between states—and it’s just short of open conflict.” The general menacingly declared: “We need to look at opportunities where we can disrupt [Iran] through military means or other means.” He also foreshadowed a propaganda war, saying: “We need to look at opportunities where we can expose and hold them accountable for the things that they are doing.” The hypocrisy involved is staggering. US Central Command has been the military instrument for the illegal US-led invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan that devastated both countries, led to millions of casualties and profoundly destabilised the entire Middle East. It is currently escalating a renewed war in Iraq and is enmeshed in the bloody US regime-change operation that has destroyed much of Syria, as well as military attacks inside Yemen. Votel accused Iran of wanting to be “the hegemon” in the region and being involved in “lethal aid facilitation,” the use of “surrogate forces” and cyber activities, among other things. Yet the US and its allies have provided billions of dollars in arms to its surrogates in Syria, and elsewhere, to foment a civil war to oust Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Moreover, the aim of the criminal activities of US imperialism in the Middle East over the past quarter century has been precisely to ensure its own hegemonic role. Washington has long regarded Iran as the chief regional obstacle to its dominance in the Middle East. Significantly, Votel challenged the 2015 nuclear deal between Iran and the so-called P5+1 group—the US, Britain, France, China, Russia and Germany—that eased sanctions on Iran in return for severe restrictions on its nuclear programs. The general declared that the US had “not seen any improvement in Iran’s behaviour” and claimed it still posed “credible threats” through its “nuclear weapons potential” and “robust” ballistic missile program. Votel’s provocative remarks and calls for military action feed into the growing clamour in Washington for tough measures against Iran. In the same vein last month, then National Security Adviser General Michael Flynn responded to an Iranian missile test by denouncing Iran’s “destabilising behaviour across the Middle East” and warned, “As of today we are officially putting Iran on notice.” President Trump in the course of last year’s election campaign denounced the 2015 nuclear agreement with Iran as “catastrophic for America, for Israel, and for the whole Middle East” and pledged to “dismantle the disastrous deal.” In a meeting last week with Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, Trump again openly questioned the deal and declared that “nobody has been able to figure out” why President Obama signed it. The alternatives now under consideration, as Votel’s comments make clear, are tougher sanctions, diplomatic provocations, covert operations and military strikes. In the US Congress, Senator Bob Corker hailed the bipartisan support last week for tough new sanctions against Iran in introducing the Countering Iran’s Destabilising Activities Bill that would effectively sink the 2015 nuclear deal known formally as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). The legislation would brand Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corp as a terrorist organisation and allow the re-imposition of sanctions on Iranian entities lifted under the JCPOA—a move that Tehran would undoubtedly regard as an open breach. Corker, who is chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and bitterly opposed the JCPOA, accused Iran on Tuesday of expanding “their destabilising activities.” Like General Votel, he listed the litany of grievances against Iran: its support of the Assad regime, the influence of Shia militias in Iraq and the arming of Houthi militias in Yemen. Iran’s “crime,” in other words, is to cut across the strategic interests of the US and its allies. Among the main charges against Iran is its collaboration with Russia in propping up Syrian President Assad and more broadly in the Middle East. General Votel specifically referred to Iran’s growing relationship with Russia as posing concern. Russia and Iran worked together closely and with the Syrian armed forces to inflict a humiliating defeat on US proxy forces in the city of Aleppo. In an unprecedented move last year, Tehran gave Russian war planes access to one of its air bases to carry out operations inside Syria. Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif announced on Tuesday that Russia would be able to use the country’s military bases on a “case by case basis” in carrying out the air war inside Syria. Zarif was part of the Iranian delegation headed by President Hassan Rouhani that arrived in Moscow on Monday for talks on economic and strategic matters. Among the other deals concluded was an agreement for Russia to build two new nuclear power plants in the city of Bushehr, the site of its first power reactor. The growing ties between Moscow and Tehran are undoubtedly provoking deep resentment and hostility in Washington where it will further fuel the bitter infighting in the American ruling elite over foreign policy. US claims that Iran is destabilising the Middle East are matched by the denunciations of Putin and Russia for destabilising Eastern Europe, the Balkans and the world. The reckless and provocative call by General Votel for the US to use “military means” to “disrupt” Iran threatens to provoke a conflict that would not be confined to the Middle East but would draw in other nuclear-armed powers like Russia and engulf the world. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Mar 30 14:17:01 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:17:01 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] US War with Iran Message-ID: * Print * Leaflet * Feedback * Share » Top US general calls for military action against Iran By Peter Symonds 30 March 2017 The top American commander in the Middle East, General Joseph Votel, yesterday branded Iran as the “greatest long-term threat to stability” in the region and called for steps, including military action, to disrupt and undermine Iranian influence and activities. Such use of military force would constitute an act of war, destroy the international nuclear deal struck with Iran in 2015 and set the Middle East on the path for another disastrous conflict. Testifying before the House Armed Services Committee, Votel, head of the US Central Command, denounced Iran for its “destabilising role” in the region. “I believe that Iran is operating in what I call a gray zone,” he said. “And it’s an area between normal competition between states—and it’s just short of open conflict.” The general menacingly declared: “We need to look at opportunities where we can disrupt [Iran] through military means or other means.” He also foreshadowed a propaganda war, saying: “We need to look at opportunities where we can expose and hold them accountable for the things that they are doing.” The hypocrisy involved is staggering. US Central Command has been the military instrument for the illegal US-led invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan that devastated both countries, led to millions of casualties and profoundly destabilised the entire Middle East. It is currently escalating a renewed war in Iraq and is enmeshed in the bloody US regime-change operation that has destroyed much of Syria, as well as military attacks inside Yemen. Votel accused Iran of wanting to be “the hegemon” in the region and being involved in “lethal aid facilitation,” the use of “surrogate forces” and cyber activities, among other things. Yet the US and its allies have provided billions of dollars in arms to its surrogates in Syria, and elsewhere, to foment a civil war to oust Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Moreover, the aim of the criminal activities of US imperialism in the Middle East over the past quarter century has been precisely to ensure its own hegemonic role. Washington has long regarded Iran as the chief regional obstacle to its dominance in the Middle East. Significantly, Votel challenged the 2015 nuclear deal between Iran and the so-called P5+1 group—the US, Britain, France, China, Russia and Germany—that eased sanctions on Iran in return for severe restrictions on its nuclear programs. The general declared that the US had “not seen any improvement in Iran’s behaviour” and claimed it still posed “credible threats” through its “nuclear weapons potential” and “robust” ballistic missile program. Votel’s provocative remarks and calls for military action feed into the growing clamour in Washington for tough measures against Iran. In the same vein last month, then National Security Adviser General Michael Flynn responded to an Iranian missile test by denouncing Iran’s “destabilising behaviour across the Middle East” and warned, “As of today we are officially putting Iran on notice.” President Trump in the course of last year’s election campaign denounced the 2015 nuclear agreement with Iran as “catastrophic for America, for Israel, and for the whole Middle East” and pledged to “dismantle the disastrous deal.” In a meeting last week with Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, Trump again openly questioned the deal and declared that “nobody has been able to figure out” why President Obama signed it. The alternatives now under consideration, as Votel’s comments make clear, are tougher sanctions, diplomatic provocations, covert operations and military strikes. In the US Congress, Senator Bob Corker hailed the bipartisan support last week for tough new sanctions against Iran in introducing the Countering Iran’s Destabilising Activities Bill that would effectively sink the 2015 nuclear deal known formally as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). The legislation would brand Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corp as a terrorist organisation and allow the re-imposition of sanctions on Iranian entities lifted under the JCPOA—a move that Tehran would undoubtedly regard as an open breach. Corker, who is chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and bitterly opposed the JCPOA, accused Iran on Tuesday of expanding “their destabilising activities.” Like General Votel, he listed the litany of grievances against Iran: its support of the Assad regime, the influence of Shia militias in Iraq and the arming of Houthi militias in Yemen. Iran’s “crime,” in other words, is to cut across the strategic interests of the US and its allies. Among the main charges against Iran is its collaboration with Russia in propping up Syrian President Assad and more broadly in the Middle East. General Votel specifically referred to Iran’s growing relationship with Russia as posing concern. Russia and Iran worked together closely and with the Syrian armed forces to inflict a humiliating defeat on US proxy forces in the city of Aleppo. In an unprecedented move last year, Tehran gave Russian war planes access to one of its air bases to carry out operations inside Syria. Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif announced on Tuesday that Russia would be able to use the country’s military bases on a “case by case basis” in carrying out the air war inside Syria. Zarif was part of the Iranian delegation headed by President Hassan Rouhani that arrived in Moscow on Monday for talks on economic and strategic matters. Among the other deals concluded was an agreement for Russia to build two new nuclear power plants in the city of Bushehr, the site of its first power reactor. The growing ties between Moscow and Tehran are undoubtedly provoking deep resentment and hostility in Washington where it will further fuel the bitter infighting in the American ruling elite over foreign policy. US claims that Iran is destabilising the Middle East are matched by the denunciations of Putin and Russia for destabilising Eastern Europe, the Balkans and the world. The reckless and provocative call by General Votel for the US to use “military means” to “disrupt” Iran threatens to provoke a conflict that would not be confined to the Middle East but would draw in other nuclear-armed powers like Russia and engulf the world. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Mar 30 14:34:01 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:34:01 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rules of Engagement 2015 Message-ID: In response to the many articles and claims that the Obama Administration ROE were too restrictive to conduct war, and claims that no changes to the ROE have occurred, or that Trump has changed them. Here is proof that changes did occur in 2015, changes that are so horrific……..no wonder they are no longer available for purchase online. Please see: International Law Professor Francis Boyle, interview by Sherwood Ross General News 8/13/2015 at 19:22:57 Boyle: New Pentagon War Manual Reduces Us To "Level of Nazis" The Pentagon's new Law of War Manual(LOWM) sanctioning nuclear attacks and the killing of civilians, "reads like it was written by Hitler's Ministry of War," says international law authority Francis Boyle of the University of Illinois at Champaign. "Historically, this is a terrible development," he added in an exclusive interview with this reporter. "We are reducing ourselves to the level of the Nazis." - Advertisement - The grim, 1,165-page-long document, issued in June by the Defense Department's Office of the General Counsel, also sanctions the use of napalm, herbicides, depleted uranium, and drone missile strikes, among other barbarities. Boyle points out the new manual is designed to supplant the 1956 U.S. Army Field Manual 27-10 written by Richard Baxter, the world's leading authority on the Laws of War. Baxter was the Manley O. Hudson Professor of Law at Harvard Law School and a Judge on the International Court of Justice. Boyle was his top student. Boyle today is the leading professor, practitioner and advocate of international law in America. He drafted the U.S. implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention known as the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989. "Over the years, 27-10 has proven to be a total embarrassment to the Pentagon because it sets forth a fair and accurate statement of the Laws of War both as of 1956 and as of today," Boyle says. He termed the new manual a "warmongering" document. The new document seeks to distinguish between "legitimate" and "illegitimate" acts of military violence against civilian targets, using the criterion of military necessity," points out Peter Martin of the World Socialist Website. "Thus, acts of mass slaughter of civilians could be justified if sufficient military advantages were gained by the operations." The bulk of the document, Martin continues, "amounts to a green light for military atrocities, including mass killings." Martin said the most comprehensive previous such document, the 1956 Pentagon field manual, did not state that civilians, unlike military personnel, should be spared "unnecessary suffering" because it assumed... "that any deliberate targeting of civilians was illegal and a war crime." Among the flagrant violations of international law sanctioned by the Pentagon's new LOWM, Martin writes, are: # Legitimizing the use of nuclear weapons. LOWM states, "There is no general prohibition in treaty or customary international law on the use of nuclear weapons." This flies in the face of a number of existing international covenants. Under the UN Charter as interpreted by the World Court in its Advisory Opinion on the Legality of the Threat or Use of Nuclear Weapons, even threatening to use nuclear weapons, as the U.S. and Israel have threatened Iran, is illegal and thus a war crime. # Authorizing the use of banned incendiary weapons such as napalm, herbicides (as Agent Orange in Viet Nam), depleted uranium munitions (as used in Iraq). Napalm, for example, is banned under Protocol III of the 1980 UN Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. # Authorizing the use of cluster munitions, mines and booby-traps, the LOWM rationalizes that "the United States is not a Party to the Convention on Cluster Munitions." (That's a disgrace, of course, when the overwhelming majority of nations have signed it.) # Defends drone missile attacks, both by the Pentagon and intelligence outfits such as the Central Intelligence Agency, declaring flatly: "There is no prohibition in the law of war on the use of remotely piloted aircraft"" To the contrary, targeted killing off the battlefield is prohibited. # Authorizes the use of exploding hollow-point bullets, stating the U.S. is not a party to the 1868 St. Petersburg declaration banning their use. (At this writing, the U.S. is only 147 years late.) In sum, the move by the Pentagon to supplant the 1956 manual with the LOWM represents an effort to justify the excesses of its trillion dollar-a-year war machine, one that is as large as the next dozen nations combined. The Pentagon today operates some 900 military bases globally, allegedly for "defense," yet engages in warfare in a dozen foreign countries. The new Pentagon manual illuminates in bold print the downward drift of the U.S. from a democratic to a totalitarian society. LOWM has received no play in a media "following orders to conceal from the American people"the Pentagon's preparations for new and more massive war crimes, along with the destruction of democratic rights spelled out in the U.S. Constitution," Martin says. (Indeed, it seems TV "news" stations beam more commercials than news stories, and reports of any carnage inflicted by the Pentagon are virtually non-existent.)# (Sherwood Ross is a Miami-based award-winning journalist who formerly reported for The New York Herald-Tribune, The Chicago Daily News, and major wire services.) - Advertisement - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Mar 30 14:34:01 2017 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:34:01 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rules of Engagement 2015 Message-ID: In response to the many articles and claims that the Obama Administration ROE were too restrictive to conduct war, and claims that no changes to the ROE have occurred, or that Trump has changed them. Here is proof that changes did occur in 2015, changes that are so horrific……..no wonder they are no longer available for purchase online. Please see: International Law Professor Francis Boyle, interview by Sherwood Ross General News 8/13/2015 at 19:22:57 Boyle: New Pentagon War Manual Reduces Us To "Level of Nazis" The Pentagon's new Law of War Manual(LOWM) sanctioning nuclear attacks and the killing of civilians, "reads like it was written by Hitler's Ministry of War," says international law authority Francis Boyle of the University of Illinois at Champaign. "Historically, this is a terrible development," he added in an exclusive interview with this reporter. "We are reducing ourselves to the level of the Nazis." - Advertisement - The grim, 1,165-page-long document, issued in June by the Defense Department's Office of the General Counsel, also sanctions the use of napalm, herbicides, depleted uranium, and drone missile strikes, among other barbarities. Boyle points out the new manual is designed to supplant the 1956 U.S. Army Field Manual 27-10 written by Richard Baxter, the world's leading authority on the Laws of War. Baxter was the Manley O. Hudson Professor of Law at Harvard Law School and a Judge on the International Court of Justice. Boyle was his top student. Boyle today is the leading professor, practitioner and advocate of international law in America. He drafted the U.S. implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention known as the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989. "Over the years, 27-10 has proven to be a total embarrassment to the Pentagon because it sets forth a fair and accurate statement of the Laws of War both as of 1956 and as of today," Boyle says. He termed the new manual a "warmongering" document. The new document seeks to distinguish between "legitimate" and "illegitimate" acts of military violence against civilian targets, using the criterion of military necessity," points out Peter Martin of the World Socialist Website. "Thus, acts of mass slaughter of civilians could be justified if sufficient military advantages were gained by the operations." The bulk of the document, Martin continues, "amounts to a green light for military atrocities, including mass killings." Martin said the most comprehensive previous such document, the 1956 Pentagon field manual, did not state that civilians, unlike military personnel, should be spared "unnecessary suffering" because it assumed... "that any deliberate targeting of civilians was illegal and a war crime." Among the flagrant violations of international law sanctioned by the Pentagon's new LOWM, Martin writes, are: # Legitimizing the use of nuclear weapons. LOWM states, "There is no general prohibition in treaty or customary international law on the use of nuclear weapons." This flies in the face of a number of existing international covenants. Under the UN Charter as interpreted by the World Court in its Advisory Opinion on the Legality of the Threat or Use of Nuclear Weapons, even threatening to use nuclear weapons, as the U.S. and Israel have threatened Iran, is illegal and thus a war crime. # Authorizing the use of banned incendiary weapons such as napalm, herbicides (as Agent Orange in Viet Nam), depleted uranium munitions (as used in Iraq). Napalm, for example, is banned under Protocol III of the 1980 UN Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. # Authorizing the use of cluster munitions, mines and booby-traps, the LOWM rationalizes that "the United States is not a Party to the Convention on Cluster Munitions." (That's a disgrace, of course, when the overwhelming majority of nations have signed it.) # Defends drone missile attacks, both by the Pentagon and intelligence outfits such as the Central Intelligence Agency, declaring flatly: "There is no prohibition in the law of war on the use of remotely piloted aircraft"" To the contrary, targeted killing off the battlefield is prohibited. # Authorizes the use of exploding hollow-point bullets, stating the U.S. is not a party to the 1868 St. Petersburg declaration banning their use. (At this writing, the U.S. is only 147 years late.) In sum, the move by the Pentagon to supplant the 1956 manual with the LOWM represents an effort to justify the excesses of its trillion dollar-a-year war machine, one that is as large as the next dozen nations combined. The Pentagon today operates some 900 military bases globally, allegedly for "defense," yet engages in warfare in a dozen foreign countries. The new Pentagon manual illuminates in bold print the downward drift of the U.S. from a democratic to a totalitarian society. LOWM has received no play in a media "following orders to conceal from the American people"the Pentagon's preparations for new and more massive war crimes, along with the destruction of democratic rights spelled out in the U.S. Constitution," Martin says. (Indeed, it seems TV "news" stations beam more commercials than news stories, and reports of any carnage inflicted by the Pentagon are virtually non-existent.)# (Sherwood Ross is a Miami-based award-winning journalist who formerly reported for The New York Herald-Tribune, The Chicago Daily News, and major wire services.) - Advertisement - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Thu Mar 30 16:48:21 2017 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:48:21 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] A Green Candidate for the 13th Illinois Congressional District In-Reply-To: References: <18D2717E-F021-4DD6-ACC1-0E27F3A7BCD3@illinois.edu> <894F7910-537D-4449-9805-875D4DF99329@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1CB0C94C-1087-4FD9-A9E3-33521F8E7536@gmail.com> Running as a Democrat, he may support the items mentioned below. —CGE > On Mar 30, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > Gill said he was going to run as a Democrat. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:25 AM > To: 'C G Estabrook' > Subject: RE: [Peace] A Green Candidate for the 13th Illinois Congressional District > > Carl: Last I heard David Gill was going to run again. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of C G Estabrook via Peace > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:20 AM > To: Peace-discuss ; Peace > Cc: prairiegreens at lists.chambana.net > Subject: [Peace] A Green Candidate for the 13th Illinois Congressional District > > The local seat in the US House of Representatives is insecurely held by Rodney Davis, a Republican. > The Prairie Greens should run a candidate against him in 2018, on a platform of > ~ opposing climate catastrophe; > ~ bringing all US troops and weapons home; > ~ expanding Medicare to all; and > ~ establishing a universal basic income. > Whomever the Democrats run against Davis, s/he will not support these positions. > We should run a Green candidate. —CGE From salevy at illinois.edu Thu Mar 30 17:45:18 2017 From: salevy at illinois.edu (Stuart Levy) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:45:18 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?_=5BAware=5D_People=27s_Agenda_Update_-?= =?utf-8?q?_ISDS=3A_The_Threat_That_Keeps_on_Threatening_=F0=9F=8C=8F?= In-Reply-To: <33602bebba8fb7dd6e71fb413.dac11ea256.20170328190343.8186dd475a.8959f143@mail81.atl31.mcdlv.net> References: <33602bebba8fb7dd6e71fb413.dac11ea256.20170328190343.8186dd475a.8959f143@mail81.atl31.mcdlv.net> Message-ID: <5c68feb9-9350-987b-c695-cc8c1c8428b7@illinois.edu> Just because Trump dumped the TPP doesn't mean that his administration doesn't like one of its worst aspects ... -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [Aware] People's Agenda Update - ISDS: The Threat That Keeps on Threatening 🌏 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 19:04:36 +0000 From: Popular Resistance via Aware Reply-To: Popular Resistance To: aware at anti-war.net People's Agenda Update - ISDS: The Threat That Keeps on Threatening 🌏 The ISDS is a threat to our very act of resistance... View this email in your browser /Art by Oliver Munday/ Dear Corporate Greed Resisters, Brought to the world stage by NAFTA, the Investment-State Dispute Settlement (ISDS) is amongst the biggest threats to democracy that the Trump administration and corporations throughout the globe want consolidated in the new world order. Last week, the Trump administration prepared a 21-point list entitled “Key Elements of a Model Trade Agreement” at the request of Senator Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) ahead of Robert Lighthizer’s congressional hearing on his nomination to be the next United States Trade Representatives. While many items on the list are a cause for alarm, we want to remind everyone of the persistence of ISDS across presidencies. We have heard Trump repeatedly rant about how horrible NAFTA and the TPP were, yet he has kept silent on the devastating effect of one of ISDS as a main component of these deals. In a fantastic Buzzfeed investigative report , Chris Hamby showed how U.S. corporations have benefitted immensely from the alternative court system which has power over national governments. According to the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development, the most ISDS suits originated from the United States with a soaring 138 suits. ISDS is a threat for any country that wants to increase labor and environmental protections domestically and a global threat to climate change action and peoples’ sovereignty. For example, Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch just published a blog post on how pharmaceutical giant Novartis has used ISDS as a threat to drag the Colombian government into a corporate tribunal if it tries to make an essential cancer drug accessible. Colombia’s legislation could make end Novartis’s current monopoly rights to produce the drug and authorize generic competition, which could decrease the $15,000 per year per patient price tag by some 44%. We expect the Trump administration to continue strengthening the power of the corporate court system with the renegotiations of NAFTA and other trade agreements. Additionally, the European Union is pushing for a multi-lateral ISDS system through its negotiations with Chile and México along with another 40 countries during the World Economic Forum. If we are to have the power to rule ourselves in the future, to pull the brakes on global warming and the devastating effects of climate change, then we must defeat ISDS in any context. /The greed of a few cannot take on the lives of the many./ *A visual description of ISDS* Unite for Global Justice, Trade for People and Planet Team Trade for People and Planet on the web Facebook Twitter, @FlushTheTPP *Our mailing address is:* 402 East Lake Ave. Baltimore MD, 21212 Click here to donate. update subscription preferences unsubscribe from this list Web Bug from http://popularresistance.us2.list-manage.com/track/open.php?u=33602bebba8fb7dd6e71fb413&id=8186dd475a&e=dac11ea256 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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GORDON Two months after President Trump took office, indications are mounting that the military is deepening its involvement in complex wars that lack clear outcomes. Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser: https://nyti.ms/2nBZg7b Not a Subscriber? To get unlimited access to all New York Times articles, subscribe today. See Options -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuartnlevy at gmail.com Thu Mar 30 17:59:46 2017 From: stuartnlevy at gmail.com (Stuart Levy) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:59:46 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] (from David Swanson) - April 4 WWI MLK and ending war - events around the world In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <769ce09e-b342-940e-4eb1-4cc38aa5b978@gmail.com> Peace events around the world on April 4th. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [ufpj-activist] April 4 WWI MLK and ending war Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:24:22 -0400 From: David Swanson To: David Swanson *April 4, 2017, marks 100 years since the U.S. Senate voted to enter World War I, and 50 years since Martin Luther King Jr. spoke against war on Vietnam. * Treaty negotiations are underway in New York to ban nuclear weapons. We've planned events with fantastic speakers to consider all of these topics. Join us in New York City on April 3. http://worldbeyondwar.org/100ny Join us in Washington DC on April 4 or watch the live video from anywhere. http://worldbeyondwar.org/100dc To go more in-depth, sign up for our online course in War Abolition 101. It starts on April 10. https://actionnetwork.org/fundraising/sign-up-for-online-course-how-to-get-to-a-world-beyond-war Join David Swanson in Cambridge, Mass., on April 13, and in Burlington, Vt., on April 22. http://worldbeyondwar.org/boston/ http://worldbeyondwar.org/winooski/ Here are lots more events happening all over the world. http://worldbeyondwar.org/eventsforWBW/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ ufpj-activist mailing list Post: ufpj-activist at lists.mayfirst.org List info: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/ufpj-activist To Unsubscribe Send email to: ufpj-activist-unsubscribe at lists.mayfirst.org Or visit: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/options/ufpj-activist/slevy%40ncsa.uiuc.edu You are subscribed as: slevy at ncsa.uiuc.edu From galliher at illinois.edu Thu Mar 30 18:44:54 2017 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 13:44:54 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] U.S. War Footprint Grows in Middle East, With No Endgame in Sight In-Reply-To: <92CD3359-722F-43EA-900C-97AD95491C08@illinois.edu> References: <58DD32CD.0000025B@pmta04.ewr1.nytimes.com> <92CD3359-722F-43EA-900C-97AD95491C08@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <6EE95CD1-0D0A-4440-A96F-53D37935F4E2@illinois.edu> Join the anti-war demonstration this Saturday 2-4pm at Main & Neil in Champaign. Here’s the flyer that will be distributed: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flyer2017.04.rtfd.zip Type: application/zip Size: 101279 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- > On Mar 30, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss wrote: > > >> From: r-szoke >> Subject: NYTimes.com: U.S. War Footprint Grows in Middle East, With No Endgame in Sight >> Date: March 30, 2017 at 11:31:09 AM CDT >> >> Sent by r-szoke at illinois.edu: >> >> U.S. War Footprint Grows in Middle East, With No Endgame in Sight >> BY BEN HUBBARD AND MICHAEL R. GORDON >> >> Two months after President Trump took office, indications are mounting that the military is deepening its involvement in complex wars that lack clear outcomes. >> Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser: https://nyti.ms/2nBZg7b >> Not a Subscriber? To get unlimited access to all New York Times articles, subscribe today. See Options >> > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From stuartnlevy at gmail.com Fri Mar 31 05:55:23 2017 From: stuartnlevy at gmail.com (Stuart Levy) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 00:55:23 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE anti-war demonstration - Sat April 1st, 2-4pm, Main & Neil in downtown Champaign Message-ID: <3e08a601-3df0-493d-afed-abe92d8c4205@gmail.com> AWARE returns to the streets to demonstrate against our wars this Saturday - Saturday, April 1st, 2-4PM corner of Main and Neil, downtown Champaign Please join us for any or all of that time. Fifty years ago next week - April 4, 1967 - civil rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr. gave a speech, "Beyond Vietnam". How little has changed in half a century? May our vision be as uncompromising as his was then. (The full text is here: http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0115-13.htm ) "Why are you speaking about the war, Dr. King?" "Why are you joining the voices of dissent?" "Peace and civil rights don't mix," they say. "Aren't you hurting the cause of your people," they ask? And when I hear them, though I often understand the source of their concern, I am nevertheless greatly saddened, for such questions mean that the inquirers have not really known me, my commitment or my calling. Indeed, their questions suggest that they do not know the world in which they live. [...] "I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to *the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government. * For the sake of those boys, for the sake of this government, *for the sake of the hundreds of thousands trembling under our violence, I cannot be silent.*" [...] "[The people of Vietnam] must see Americans as strange liberators. [...] Even though they quoted the American Declaration of Independence in their own document of freedom, we refused to recognize them. [...] When Diem was overthrown they may have been happy, but the long line of military dictators seemed to offer no real change, especially in terms of their need for land and peace. The only change came from *America, as we increased our troop commitments in support of governments which were singularly corrupt, inept, and without popular support.* All the while the people read our leaflets and received the regular promises of peace and democracy and land reform. Now they languish under our bombs and consider us, not their fellow Vietnamese, the real enemy. They move sadly and apathetically as we herd them off the land of their fathers into concentration camps where minimal social needs are rarely met. They know they must move on or be destroyed by our bombs." [...] "We are at the moment when our lives must be placed on the line if our nation is to survive its own folly. Every man of humane convictions must decide on the protest that best suits his convictions, but we must all protest. Now there is something seductively tempting about stopping there and sending us all off on what in some circles has become a popular crusade against the war in Vietnam. I say we must enter that struggle, but I wish to go on now to say something even more disturbing. *The war *in Vietnam is *but a symptom of a far deeper malady within the American spirit,* and if we ignore this sobering reality...and if we ignore this sobering reality, we will find ourselves organizing "clergy and laymen concerned" committees for the next generation. They will be concerned about Guatemala -- Guatemala and Peru. They will be concerned about Thailand and Cambodia. They will be concerned about Mozambique and South Africa. *We will be marching for these and a dozen other names and attending rallies without end, unless there is a significant and profound change in American life and policy.* And so, such thoughts take us beyond Vietnam, but not beyond our calling as sons of the living God." [...] "*In 1957, a sensitive American official overseas said that it seemed to him that our nation was on the wrong side of a world revolution.* During the past ten years, we have seen emerge a pattern of suppression which has now justified the presence of U.S. military advisors in Venezuela. *This need to maintain social stability for our investments* accounts for the counterrevolutionary action of American forces in Guatemala. It tells why American helicopters are being used against guerrillas in Cambodia and why American napalm and Green Beret forces have already been active against rebels in Peru." [...] "*A true revolution of values will soon cause us to question the fairness and justice of many of our past and present policies. *On the one hand, we are called to play the Good Samaritan on life's roadside, but that will be only an initial act. One day we must come to see that the whole Jericho Road must be transformed so that men and women will not be constantly beaten and robbed as they make their journey on life's highway. *True compassion is more than flinging a coin to a beggar. It comes to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring.*" [...] "*A true revolution of values will soon look uneasily on the glaring contrast of poverty and wealth. *With righteous indignation, it will look across the seas and see individual capitalists of the West investing huge sums of money in Asia, Africa, and South America, only to take the profits out with no concern for the social betterment of the countries, and say, "This is not just." It will look at our alliance with the landed gentry of South America and say, "This is not just." The Western arrogance of feeling that it has everything to teach others and nothing to learn from them is not just." [...] "This business of burning human beings with napalm, of filling our nation's homes with orphans and widows, of injecting poisonous drugs of hate into the veins of peoples normally humane, of sending men home from dark and bloody battlefields physically handicapped and psychologically deranged, cannot be reconciled with wisdom, justice, and love. *A nation* *that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death.*" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davegreen84 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 31 14:54:56 2017 From: davegreen84 at yahoo.com (David Green) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 14:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Follow-up on opioids: The drug war is the problem References: <132480958.1583714.1490972096399.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <132480958.1583714.1490972096399@mail.yahoo.com> Opioids Aren’t the Problem and Chris Christie Isn’t the Solution    Sal Rodriguez Opioids Aren’t the Problem and Chris Christie Isn’t the Solution | | | | | | | | | | | Opioids Aren’t the Problem and Chris Christie Isn’t the Solution On Wednesday, President Trump announced the establishment of the President’s Commission on Combating Drug Addict... | | | |                           On Wednesday, President Trump announced the establishment of the President’s Commission on Combating Drug Addiction and the Opioid Crisis, to be headed up by noted public health addiction expert…New Jersey Governor Chris Christie.The commission has fairly minimal tasks, with overall aim to “make recommendations to the President for improving the Federal response to drug addiction and the opioid crisis.” In other words, produce yet another commission report few will read and fewer will take action on – like the 2016 surgeon general’s report which covered much the same ground.In promotion of this, the White House convened a “listening session,” in which it became clear the point of the commission was less about finding reasonable solutions to the supposed opioid crisis and more about sustaining popular (and wrong) mythologies about drug use, abuse, addiction and opioids.During the gathering, Trump, alongside Christie, Education Secretary Betsy DeVos and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, heard stories by former addicts and family members, who told horror stories about their encounters with opioids. The stories were essentially the same: they took pain killers, became addicted and went on to become homeless and/or went to jail.Throughout the session, various assertions were made, including that people become “immediately hooked” and that narcotics are “cheaper than candy,” the latter an assertion Trump has made in the past, without evidence.But ultimately, as feel-good as the listening session may have been, the dominant narratives about the so-called opioid epidemic on display at listening session, and throughout the mainstream media, do more to obscure reality than to accurately describe it.Opioid overdoses aren’t (just) opioid overdosesThere is no disputing that increasing numbers of people have lost their lives to opioid overdoses over the past several years. More than 33,000 Americans lost their lives to opioid overdoses in 2015, according to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, including 12,989 deaths involving heroin.But there’s a missing element to these numbers. Opioid overdoses usually involve more than just opioids – and often entail the mixing of multiple drugs, like alcohol, benzodiazepines, cocaine and fentanyl, either by choice (as is typically true of the first three substances) or due to unscrupulous black market dealers tainting their product (with fentanyl). This occurs so often, “opioid overdose” is virtually a misnomer – and many, if not most opioid overdoses are better described as “polydrug toxicity,” as suggested by a 2003 paper in the Journal of Urban Health.Based on an evaluation of privately insured patients in the United States, research published on March 14 by the British Medical Journal determined that concurrent benzodiazepine and opioid use increased by 80 percent between 2001 and 2013, from 9 percent of opioid users to 17 percent of opioid users over that time period.Noting that 30 percent of fatal opioid overdoses involve benzodiazepines and that those who use both are at a tenfold greater risk of overdose than those who don’t, the researchers concluded that the rapid growth in concurrent benzodiazepine/opioid use “significantly contributed to the overall population risk of opioid overdose.”This is consistent with prior research. According to a 2014 report, nearly 60 percent of long-term opioid users took a combination of drugs that could potentially be fatal – with benzodiazepines being particularly common.But how often do we hear from politicians or pundits about the reality that opioid overdoses tend to involve more than just opioids? Or that greater emphasis must be made on warning doctors and patients about the risks of concurrent use?Educating people about the risks of drug mixing is a simple but overlooked undertaking that could save lives. Perhaps education and communication are too subtle to grab headlines – and there’s no money to be made from it. Or perhaps this lack of emphasis on drug mixing is because politicians, anti-drug crusaders and do-gooders are less interested in encouraging safer drug-taking practices and more interested in fostering hysteria.Opioids (probably) won’t destroy your lifeWhile there are certainly people who develop addictions to opioids, becoming so addicted one turns to a life of crime and homelessness to support a drug habit because they happened to use Percocet is exceedingly rare.While mainstream outlets like CNN trot out claims that “prescription and illegal opioids are commonly abused because they are so addictive,” abuse of and addiction to opioids is the exception, not the norm.According to the 2015 National Survey on Drug Use and Health, approximately 97 million Americans had used prescription pain relievers. Of them, nearly 12.5 million were estimated to have misused prescription pain relievers during the year, while about 3.8 million reported misusing them in the prior month. This alone tells us that the vast majority of users does not misuse pain relievers, and even among those who do, most don’t even do so long enough to have done it in the prior month.This is consistent with research indicating rates of abuse or addiction among people prescribed opioids could be as little as 0.27 percent of people prescribed opioids to 4.5 percent.Even among heroin users, the national survey estimated 5.1 million Americans had used the drug in their lifetimes, while just over 800,000 had used it in the past year and 329,000 had done so in the past month. Notably, though there were fewer past year and past month heroin users in 2015 than in 2014, the number of deaths attributed to heroin overdoses increased in 2015 over 2014. This likely has something to do with the dangers of drug prohibition pushing heroin underground and subject to the whims of the black market – causing wide variations in potency and the deliberate cutting of heroin by drug producers and dealers with potent drugs like fentanyl.But the relatively low rate of misuse, abuse or addiction hardly makes for inspiring political rhetoric. It is much more convenient to use the stories of the relative few who destroyed their lives than it is to talk about opioids realistically. Likewise, as is the case with resistance to talking about drug mixing, politicians simply don’t want to acknowledge the fact that it is drug prohibition which has made heroin as dangerous as it is.Doubling down on failed policies won’t workPoliticians have responded to increases in opioid use and misuse by restricting access to prescription pain relievers and punishing physicians and pharmacists. Overdose deaths have climbed despite these efforts, as abusers and those with legitimate needs, especially those who deal with chronic pain, find themselves criminalized, stigmatized and/or forced to either deal with the black market or suffer from what ails them.Donald Trump has suggested his border wall will help solve the problem of accessibility to opioids. Jeff Sessions has stressed criminal enforcement and interdiction efforts. Chris Christie, meanwhile, stressed his view that addiction was a disease that can be treated.Whatever the merits of the disease model of addiction – and there are plenty of reasons to find it an inadequate, incomplete understanding of addiction – Christie’s record reveals a mixed, if convoluted, record.“We will end the failed war on drugs that believes that incarceration is the cure of every ill caused by drug abuse,” he said during his 2014 inauguration. “We will make drug treatment available to as many of our non-violent offenders as we can and we will partner with our citizens to create a society that understands that every life has value and no life is disposable.”To his credit, as Governor of New Jersey his state enacted a Good Samaritan law protecting people from arrest if they report an overdose while using drugs themselves and made anti-overdose drug naloxone available.But as recently as February, Christie signed into law a bill limiting prescriptions for acute pain to just five days. It’s the sort of overreach by government into what should be between a doctor and their patient that has contributed to the current state of affairs in the first place.This was an insight even President Obama seemed to have – though his policies didn’t actually reflect his apparent ideas. “If we go to doctors right now and say ‘Don’t overprescribe’ without providing some mechanisms for people in these communities to deal with the pain that they have or the issues that they have, then we’re not going to solve the problem, because the pain is real, the mental illness is real,” Obama said during a meeting with state governors in 2016. “In some cases, addiction is already there.”Christie has also been a vocal opponent of marijuana legalization, believing it to be a gateway drug and taxes on it to be “blood money,” despite the fact that there’s growing evidence that marijuana and increased accessibility to it may help many with pain and help reduce deaths associated with prescription pain relievers.Still, his talk of treatment presents some opportunities for reformers. However, as important as “treatment” in the abstract might be, it is hardly a cure-all to the problems of the opioid overdose problem. And as psychologist Stanton Peele recently observed, “no other country in the world provides as much disease-oriented addiction treatment (i.e.,12-step and vaguely biomedical treatment—‘vaguely’ since no treatments actually directly address supposed brain centers of addiction) as does the US. Yet North America, as a global harm reduction report notes, has the ‘highest drug-related mortality rate in the world.’”The drug war is the problem, not opioidsMaking clear the dangers of drug mixing, removing politicians from doctor-patient relationships, emphasizing harm reduction, supporting the expansion of medication-assisted treatment and permitting legal access to heroin and other drugs would do more to save lives than even the most soft-hearted drug prohibition.Messages that opioids are especially likely to ruin peoples lives, that they are especially dangerous and that government intervention is needed to save people from themselves is just a rehashing of the same old prohibitionist attitudes that enabled the growth in prison populations, overdose deaths and discord all around the world in the first place.     Click here to print. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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