[Peace-discuss] [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth

[Karen Aram]

Carl, 

I agree with your objection to any reference to USG crime as a stupid mistake or error. It’s so misleading, and continues the myth of “if only we had a different President, or the other Party” which prevents further thought or research into “why” our nation continues the crimes against humanity, regardless of which Party Democrat or Republican, is in power, or who the President in Chief maybe. 


> On Mar 21, 2017, at 19:31, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> 
> My principal objection to the Consortium News account of the Foreign Affairs article is that it refers to "the *errors and stupidities* of the Obama administration in its handling of Russia and Putin,” when a far better description would be *lies and crimes.*
> 
> But we should be thankful for any cracks in the facade. Some light gets through. 
> 
> —CGE
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 8:44 PM, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu> wrote:
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>> And ditto for Foreign Policy. FP was  founded by and paid for by the Ford Foundation, a well known front organization for the CIA. Fab.
>> Eagle Scout 
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>> Francis A. Boyle
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>> From: Boyle, Francis A 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15 PM
>> To: Estabrook, Carl G <galliher at illinois.edu>; Peace-discuss List <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
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>> Subject: RE: [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth
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>> Dear Carl:
>> 
>> With all due respect to you: Yes, I took  out  a subscription to Foreign Affairs  when I was getting my PHD in international political science from Harvard. I dropped it years ago when FA was taken over by a Gang of Zionist  NeoCon Imperial Thugs. It is not worth wrapping fish in. But if I had FA on a Boy Scout camping trip, I guess I could use it as toilet paper. fab.
>> Eagle Scout
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>> Francis A. Boyle
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>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
>> Champaign IL 61820 USA
>> 217-333-7954 (phone)
>> 217-244-1478 (fax)
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>> From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:58 PM
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>> Subject: [Peace] The leading academic foreign policy journal finally tells the truth
>> 
>> https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/21/a-breach-in-the-anti-putin-groupthink/
>> 
>> “For 25 years, Republicans and Democrats have acted in ways that look much the same to Moscow. Washington has pursued policies that have ignored Russian interests (and sometimes international law as well) in order to encircle Moscow with military alliances and trade blocs conducive to U.S. interests. It is no wonder that Russia pushes back. The wonder is that the U.S. policy elite doesn’t get this, even as foreign-affairs neophyte Trump apparently does…
>> 
>> "[This article] details all the errors and stupidities of the Obama administration in its handling of Russia and Putin, faulting President Obama and Secretary of State (and later presidential candidate) Hillary Clinton for all of their provocative and insensitive [sic] words and deeds. What we see in U.S. policy ... is the application of double standards, a prosecutorial stance towards Russia, and outrageous lies about the country and its leadership foisted on the American public.”
>> 
>> —CGE
>> 
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