[Peace-discuss] David Swanson on Crosstalk

Tue May 23 15:43:20 UTC 2017

Yeah, David went over to Russia as part of a Peace Delegation in order  to counter-act all the anti-Russian warmongering going on over here. He is one of the top anti-war leaders of his generation. That is why I gave him the interview—30 minutes of my time out of respect for him.
Fab

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From: Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com]
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Subject: Re:David Swanson on Crosstalk

https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/388383-mass-hysteria-western-media/

On May 23, 2017, at 08:31, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu<mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu>> wrote:

And David just returned from a Peace Mission to Russia. Fab.

Francis A. Boyle
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217-244-1478 (fax)
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Sorry, that should be: David Swanson is one of the top anti-war leaders of his generation. Fab.

Francis A. Boyle
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504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
Champaign, IL 61820 USA
217-333-7954 (phone)
217-244-1478 (fax)
(personal comments only)

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For the record, David Swanson is one of the top anti-warrior leaders of his generation. I have endorsed one of his books. Fab.

Francis A. Boyle
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504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
Champaign, IL 61820 USA
217-333-7954 (phone)
217-244-1478 (fax)
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Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] A must listen

I have no judgement on what Francis said, because (as you note) I haven’t heard it. (How about a transcript?)

I do think considerations on “How to Impeach Trump” are what the war party wants us to be talking about, instead of anti-war activities.

—CGE

On May 23, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com<mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>> wrote:

Carl, I know you don’t like listening to podcasts, but you should do so before making a judgement based on a headline.

As I noted on FB Prof. Boyle makes excellent points in respect to the law, that anyone, non lawyers can understand. You might find you’re on the same page in respect to the use of impeachment for purely political purposes.

The use of impeachment can be a deterrent to war and save lives when used for the right reasons. My layman’s interpretation.

As I said, this is a  very worthwhile discussion. I

On May 23, 2017, at 07:48, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu<mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu>> wrote:

That was His Headline. Fab

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Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] A must listen

But the discussion is billed “How to Impeach Trump” - the establishment talking point.

So long as they can keep Americans talking about how to impeach Trump, the war party has nothing to worry about.

On May 23, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com<mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>> wrote:

As noted by Prof. Boyle in the discussion.

On May 23, 2017, at 07:36, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu<mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:

Trump is not the problem: US war-making is.
The ‘Impeach Trump’ movement (along with ‘Russiagate’) is an attempt by the US political establishment (Democrats-neocons-Pentagoners-spooks) to coerce the Trump administration into keeping the Obama-Clinton war provocations against Russia-China-(and Iran) going.
It seems to be working.
—CGE

On May 23, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Talk Nation Radio: Francis Boyle on How to Impeach Trump

https://soundcloud.com/davidcnswanson/talk-nation-radio-francis-boyle-on-how-to-impeach-trump.
http://davidswanson.org/talk-nation-radio-francis-boyle-on-how-to-imp
each-trump/

Francis Boyle is a professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. Professor Boyle has served as counsel to Bosnia and Herzegovina and to the Provisional Government of the Palestinian Authority. He has represented the Blackfoot Nation, the Nation of Hawaii, and the Lakota Nation. He drafted the U.S. domestic implementing legislation for the Biological Weapons Convention, known as the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989. And he has been a strong advocate over the years for the proper use of the power of impeachment.
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