[Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG

[Roger Helbig]

what exactly is that supposed to mean - my choices of assignment were
Intelligence, Weather and Cartography and the Air Force made me an
Electronic Systems (ground radar maintenance) Officer - I liked languages -
I was a literate three year old in Russian and wanted to learn more - I
like puzzles - putting pieces together - that's what I thought intelligence
officers did - Weather was where I got assigned for familiarization during
summer camp so I somewhat expected that I would get that and a M/S in
Meterology - Cartography because as a Geologist, I made maps of what was
below the ground and cartographers made maps of what was above the ground.

I voted for Democratic candidates starting with George McGovern - so I was
not exactly a fan of Richard Nixon so hardly Nixonian!

Roger

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>
wrote:

> “I wanted to be”—Military Intelligence. A Typical Nixonian Limited
> Hang-out. fab.
>
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> *From:* Roger Helbig [mailto:rwhelbig at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 04, 2017 9:15 AM
> *To:* Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>; Peace-discuss <
> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG
>
>
>
> and you spread lies - I never worked for military intelligence - they
> would not let me because I am partially color blind and to be an Air Force
> intelligence officer, you needed to be able to interpret false colors on
> air photos - I wanted to be because I like to work through problems and
> took Russian as an elective my senior year as part of my know your enemy
> program -
>
>
>
> Now, you have not refuted that The American Free Press was established by
> Willis Carto - that Carto was a Neo Nazi or that Bollyn worked for Carto
> and Buchanan - you more than likely have not read Blood and Politics -
> maybe some of the others were.
>
>
>
> I don't seem to have scan of page where the American Free Press was
> established to replace The Spotlight, but attached is the one where it
> discusses the establishment of The Barnes Review and the conference
> discussed on the blog is for both of these publications.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 6:37 AM, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>
> wrote:
>
> *Once again, Roger crawls out of his hole as a Mole for  US “Military
> Intelligence”—an oxymoron to be sure.*
>
> *Fab*
>
>
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>
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> *From:* Roger Helbig [mailto:rwhelbig at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 04, 2017 8:12 AM
> *To:* Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>
> *Cc:* Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>; Estabrook, Carl G <
> galliher at illinois.edu>; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK <
> carl at newsfromneptune.com>; Jay Becker <futureup2us at gmail.com>;
> a-fields at uiuc.edu; Hoffman, Valerie J <vhoffman at illinois.edu>; Joe Lauria
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> Szoke, Ron <r-szoke at illinois.edu>; Dave Trippel <davetrippel at ameritech.net>;
> Arlene Hickory <a23h23 at yahoo.com>; David Swanson <davidcnswanson at gmail.com>;
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> abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne <
> lina at worldcantwait.net>; chicago at worldcantwait.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG
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>
>
> You do know that Christopher Bollyn is NOT a reporter but is a Neo Nazi
> operative of long standing and that the American Free Press is not a news
> organization, but a Neo Nazi front - look up Willis Carto - he was Bollyn's
> boss and founded the American Free Press - this website that has reports of
> conference for American Free Press and The Barnes Review used to have a
> prominent picture of a Nazi flag behind the blogger Alex Hassinger -
> Douglas Lind Rokke of Urbana spoke at this event and Dave von Kleist the
> producer of Rokke's first anti-US propaganda video  "Beyond Treason" was
> the master of ceremonies - http://www.chairmanofnordwave.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> Carto died in 2015 - there are a number of good sources on Carto in a
> simple Google search -
>
>
>
> Learn about Neo Nazis - read this book - "Blood and Politics" - it
> mentions Bollyn and extensively discusses Carto - pg 382, which I can
> e-mail to all who request - has Carto's establishment of The Barnes Review,
> a Holocaust Denial publication - The American Free Press replaced Carto's
> The Spotlight after Carto lost a legal battle - Bollyn is also mentioned in
> connection with a  Pat Buchanan campaign apparatus
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 4:57 AM, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>
> wrote:
>
> *I also want to make it clear for the record that before the invasions of
> Saipan, Tinian and Okinawa my Father, a Marine, was ordered by his Captain
> not to take prisoners of war on the grounds of reciprocity that the
> Japanese did not take Prisoners of War of our Men. My Father disobeyed
> these clearly illegal orders and took Japanese Prisoners of War. I cite the
> example of my Father to my law students to refute the objection that you
> cannot expect soldiers to obey the laws of war during combat. If my Father
> could obey the laws of war at Saipan, Tinian, and Okinawa, any other
> soldier should be able to do the same. Meanwhile,while I am teaching this
> to my students, the Illinois Nazis Law Faculty aid, abet, and promote and
> facilitate  war crimes and crimes against humanity from the safety of their
> offices. My Father later became a Lawyer. RIP. The Illinois Nazis Law
> Faculty are despicable! Fab.*
>
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>
> *Francis A. Boyle*
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> *From:* Boyle, Francis A
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:38 PM
> *To:* Roger Helbig <rwhelbig at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>; Estabrook, Carl G <
> galliher at illinois.edu>; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK <
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> a-fields at uiuc.edu; Hoffman, Valerie J <vhoffman at illinois.edu>; Joe Lauria
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> *Subject:* RE: [Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG
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>
> *Mad Dog Mattis the Nuremberg War Criminal. Fab.*
>
> *CONTROLLED PRESS IGNORES *
>
> *CRIMINAL OBLITERATION OF FALLUJAH*
>
>
>
> By Christopher Bollyn
>
> *American Free Press*
>
>
>
> *The controlled press has scrupulously avoided discussing the devastation
> and prima facie evidence of war crimes committed during the U.S. siege and
> assault of Fallujah.*
>
>
>
> As Americans prepared for Thanksgiving, an estimated 100,000 residents of
> the besieged Iraqi city of Fallujah, trapped in their homes, struggled to
> survive without fresh food, water or electricity, reportedly cut off by
> U.S. forces on November 8.
>
>
>
> Meanwhile, on the streets of Fallujah, a city of more than 350,000, dogs
> gnawed on bloated and rotting corpses that remained unburied for weeks.
>
>
>
> Thousands of families in Fallujah were reported to be in a critical
> humanitarian situation after U.S. forces prevented the delivery of relief
> supplies. An Iraq Red Crescent Society (IRCS) humanitarian aid convoy,
> reportedly blocked by U.S. troops for more than two weeks, was allowed to
> deliver aid to residents in the heart of the city on November 25.
>
>
>
> On Thanksgiving, U.S. forces permitted the IRCS convoy carrying thousands
> of food parcels, blankets, tents and medical supplies to enter the city and
> allowed one of the clinics to be converted into a temporary hospital to
> treat the injured.  Rana Sidani of the International Committee of the Red
> Cross (ICRC) in Geneva, Switzerland however, told *American Free Press*
> on Nov. 30 that "many civilians" were still prevented from receiving aid or
> medical care.
>
>
>
> At the beginning of the U.S. operation in Fallujah on Nov. 5, a hospital
> in the central Nazzal district of Fallujah was "reduced to rubble" as a
> result of U.S. air and artillery bombardment.  "Only its façade, with a
> sign reading Nazzal Emergency Hospital, remained intact," Reuters
> reported.
>
>
>
> "A nearby compound used by the main Falluja Hospital to store medical
> supplies was also destroyed," witnesses told Reuters. Fallujah's main
> hospital was occupied by U.S. forces when the ground offensive began.
> These actions are apparent violations of international humanitarian law.
>
>
>
> "Bodies can be seen everywhere and people were crying when receiving the
> food parcels," Muhammad al-Nuri, a spokesman for the IRCS in Baghdad, said.
> "It is very sad.  It is a human disaster."
>
>
>
> Al-Nuri said that it is difficult to move in the city due to the large
> number of dead bodies in the streets.  The ICRS estimates there are more
> than 6,000 dead in Fallujah, al-Nuri said.
>
>
>
> AFP asked Major Jay Antonelli at the Coalition Press Information Center
> (CPIC) in Baghdad if the ICRS estimate of 6,000 dead in Fallujah was
> credible.  "We do not keep a count of dead Iraqis," Antonelli said. Asked
> the same question, the ICRC's Sidani said, "We don't know."
>
>
>
> Antonelli said, "U.S. forces never blocked aid convoys from reaching the
> wounded.  We only recommended to the aid convoys that they should not enter
> the city because the MNF [Multi-National Forces] could not guarantee their
> security or safety."
>
>
>
> "The ICRC is very worried about the humanitarian situation in Falluja,"
> Sidani said.  Asked what the ICRC was doing to alleviate the suffering in
> Fallujah, Sidani said: "We are reminding the parties of their
> responsibilities under international humanitarian law."
>
>
>
> It should be noted that the U.S.A. and Britain, the belligerent occupying
> powers in Iraq, are the two largest contributors to the ICRC, providing
> more than 42 percent of its budget for field operations.
>
>
>
> A second convoy from Baghdad, headed by Dr. Said Ismael Haki, the IRCS
> president, delivered aid to Fallujah on Nov. 26. "There are no houses left
> in Fallujah, only destroyed places." Haki said.  "I really don't know how
> the people will return to the city. No one will find their homes."
>
>
>
> As U.S. troops in Fallujah engaged in what has been described as the most
> intense urban combat since Vietnam, the controlled press scrupulously
> avoided discussion or footage of the devastation of the rebellious Sunni
> city.  For example, during the second week of the attack, rather than
> discuss the widespread devastation of Fallujah, U.S. television news
> programs focused largely on a brawl between basketball players and fans in
> Detroit.
>
>
>
> Lt. Col. Brandl, commander of the 1st Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, was
> filmed giving a "pep talk" to his marines: "The enemy has got a face – he's
> called Satan," Brandl said.  "He's in Fallujah, and we're going to destroy
> him."
>
>
>
> At least 136 U.S. soldiers were killed during November in Iraq, and more
> than 800 were wounded, most of them in Fallujah, making it the most costly
> month, and operation, in terms of U.S. lives lost since the invasion of
> Iraq began in March 2003.
>
>
>
> FOR WHAT CAUSE?
>
>
>
> Michael Ware, Baghdad bureau chief for *Time* magazine, who has been in
> Fallujah during the fighting, said U.S. actions in Fallujah are "creating
> the nightmare that we are seeking to prevent."
>
>
>
> "I stood there as I saw American boys die," Ware told Chris Matthews of
> MSNBC on Nov. 24, "I mean, a man shot at close range, blown apart by a
> rocket propelled grenade.  He dies there in front of you and I can't help
> but think why?  For what cause?
>
>
>
> "I see us creating the very thing that the president said we went there to
> prevent," Ware said, "…subsequent to this invasion and the occupation and
> the guerrilla war that is currently underway, we are the midwives of the
> next generation of al Qaida and Islamic terrorist."
>
>
>
> Ware, who has interviewed senior insurgent leaders, said they study the
> writings of the Vietnamese general Vo Nguyen Giap, Che Guevara, and Mao
> Zedong.  "They're bringing it straight from the Vietnam, and the broader
> insurgency playbook," Ware said.
>
>
>
> "The name of the game is deny the population to the insurgents," Ware
> said. "That's what we're trying to do, win hearts and minds.  But we're not
> winning them."
>
>
>
> The U.S. struggle to win Iraqi hearts and minds suffered a further set
> back when NBC TV broadcast footage of a U.S. marine executing a wounded and
> unarmed Iraqi in a Fallujah mosque.  The much-publicized shooting,
> apparently part of a massacre of a group of wounded resistance fighters,
> "was a rare crack in the façade that Washington, with the complicity of
> most of the corporate media, has tried to present to the world of its
> brutal assault on the rebel Iraqi city," Rohan Pearce wrote in *The
> Greenleft Weekly Australia *on Nov. 24.
>
>
>
> *The New York Times* has reported actions taken by U.S. forces in
> Fallujah, which appear to be prima facie evidence of war crimes, without
> mentioning that the actions constitute clear violations of the Laws of Land
> War found in the U.S. Army Field Manual 27-10.
>
>
>
> For example, a Nov. 20 *Times* article by Edward Wong, with two
> correspondents in Fallujah, reports that U.S. marines had transformed a
> mosque into a fortress with snipers and machine gunners perched on the roof.
>
>
>
> Then, using the passive form, Wong goes on to say that "no neutral group
> has been able to enter the city," without mentioning that U.S. forces
> blocked humanitarian aid convoys.  Likewise, Wong wrote, "Electricity and
> water had been cut off."
>
>
>
> The *Times*, whose motto is "All the news that's fit to print,"
> apparently didn't think that it's readers needed to know the U.S. forces
> had cut off the water and power to a city of 340,000 people.
>
>
>
> Asked if U.S. forces had cut power and water to Fallujah, Maj. Jay
> Antonelli of CPIC wrote: "MNF  did, with approval of the Interim Iraqi
> Government, cut off electricity to the city of Fallujah as Operation
> Al-Fajr began.  Water was not cut off intentionally, however the water
> system did sustain some kinetic damage during strikes."
>
>
>
> *American Free Press* asked the Pentagon's Lt. Col. Joe Yoswa if it is
> true that U.S. forces were using mosques as fortresses.  "It's not
> possible," Yoswa said. "Under no circumstances.  We would not set up
> snipers in a mosque in an offensive position."
>
>
>
> CPIC's Antonelli said: "MNF would not use a mosque as a 'fortress.' MNF
> and Iraqi security forces would only fire from a mosque if they were being
> fired upon and were firing back in self-defense."
>
>
>
> Abu Sabah, a refugee from Fallujah, reported seeing phosphorus bombs:
> "They used these weird bombs that put up smoke like a mushroom cloud. Then
> small pieces fell from the air with long tails of smoke trailing behind
> them.  These exploded on the ground with large fires that burnt for half
> and hour," Abu Sabah said. "When anyone touched these fires their bodies
> burnt for hours."
>
>
>
> Eyewitnesses from Fallujah also reported seeing "melted" bodies.
>
>
>
> "THROW-AWAY SOLDIERS"
>
>
>
> Having seen what appeared to be a depleted uranium (DU) missile fired at a
> building in Fallujah on CNN during the first week of the fighting, AFP
> asked the Pentagon if DU weapons are being used in Fallujah. "Yes," Yoswa
> said, "DU is a standard round on the M-1 Abrams tank."
>
>
>
> Because U.S. marines in Fallujah are very close to the poison gas produced
> by exploded DU shells, AFP asked Yoswa if anything was being done to
> protect the troops from DU poisoning.  Yoswa seemed unaware of the dangers
> posed by the use of DU.
>
>
>
> Marion Fulk, a retired nuclear scientist from Livermore National Lab told
> AFP that U.S. troops in DU contaminated battlefields are considered
> "throw-away soldiers."  The Marines exposed to DU in Fallujah, and
> elsewhere, face greatly increased risks of cancer, deformed children, and
> other health problems in the future.
>
>
>
> OBLITERATION OF FALLUJAH
>
>
>
> The "obliteration of Fallujah" is a serious war crime, according to
> Francis A. Boyle, a professor of international law at the University of
> Illinois.  "The obliteration of Fallujah continues apace," Boyle wrote in
> his Nov. 15 article, A War Crime in Real Time: Obliterating Fallujah.
> "Article 6(b) of the 1945 Nuremberg Charter defines a Nuremberg War Crime
> in relevant part as the 'wanton destruction of cities, towns or villages.'
> According to this definitive definition, the Bush administration's
> destruction of Fallujah constitutes a war crime for which Nazis were tried
> and executed."
>
>
>
> *Finis*
>
> -30-
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> *From:* Boyle, Francis A
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:13 PM
> *To:* 'Roger Helbig' <rwhelbig at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Karen Aram' <karenaram at hotmail.com>; Estabrook, Carl G <
> galliher at illinois.edu>; 'peace-discuss at anti-war.net' <
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> 'Jay Becker' <futureup2us at gmail.com>; 'a-fields at uiuc.edu' <
> a-fields at uiuc.edu>; Hoffman, Valerie J <vhoffman at illinois.edu>; 'Joe
> Lauria' <joelauria at gmail.com>; Miller, Joseph Thomas <
> jtmiller at illinois.edu>; Szoke, Ron <r-szoke at illinois.edu>; 'Dave Trippel'
> <davetrippel at ameritech.net>; 'Arlene Hickory' <a23h23 at yahoo.com>; 'David
> Swanson' <davidcnswanson at gmail.com>; 'peace-discuss-request at lists.
> chambana.net' <peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net>; '
> sherwoodross10 at gmail.com' <sherwoodross10 at gmail.com>; 'abass10 at gmail.com'
> <abass10 at gmail.com>; 'mickalideh at gmail.com' <mickalideh at gmail.com>; 'Lina
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> chicago at worldcantwait.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG
>
>
>
> Mattis expected his troops to be peacekeepers.  They brought soccer balls
> with them when they deployed.
>
> LOL! Marines don’t play soccer or teach kids to play soccer.. My Dad was a
> Marine. He invaded Saipan, Tinian and Okinawa before he became a Lawyer.
> Marines  destroy anyone and anything that is in front of them as they are
> trained to do and did at Fallujah under Mattis—A Real Mad Dog War Criminal.
> Fab.
>
>
>
>
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>
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> *From:* Boyle, Francis A
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:52 PM
> *To:* 'Roger Helbig' <rwhelbig at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>; Estabrook, Carl G <
> galliher at illinois.edu>; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK <
> carl at newsfromneptune.com>; Jay Becker <futureup2us at gmail.com>;
> a-fields at uiuc.edu; Hoffman, Valerie J <vhoffman at illinois.edu>; Joe Lauria
> <joelauria at gmail.com>; Miller, Joseph Thomas <jtmiller at illinois.edu>;
> Szoke, Ron <r-szoke at illinois.edu>; Dave Trippel <davetrippel at ameritech.net>;
> Arlene Hickory <a23h23 at yahoo.com>; David Swanson <davidcnswanson at gmail.com>;
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> *Subject:* RE: [Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Karim A G [mailto:coffee at euro-comm.co.uk <coffee at euro-comm.co.uk>]
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 16, 2004 5:00 PM
> *To:* Karim A G
> *Subject:* A War Crime in Real Time
>
> *http://www.counterpunch.org/boyle11152004.html
> <http://www.counterpunch.org/boyle11152004.html>*
>
>
>
> *November 15, 2004*
>
> *A War Crime in Real Time*
>
> *Obliterating Fallujah*
>
> By FRANCIS A. BOYLE
>
> T*he obliteration of Fallujah continues apace. Article 6(b) of the 1945
> Nuremberg Charter defines a Nuremberg War Crime in relevant part as the ".
> . . wanton destruction of cities, towns or villages. . ." According to this
> definitive definition, the Bush Jr. administration's destruction of
> Fallujah constitutes a war crime for which Nazis were tried and executed.
> There is nothing surprising about that.*
>
> *Since the Bush Jr. administration's installation in power by the United
> States Supreme Court in January of 2001, the peoples of the world have
> witnessed a government in the United States of America that has
> demonstrated little if any respect for fundamental considerations of
> international law, international organizations, and human rights, let alone
> appreciation of the requirements for maintaining international peace and
> security. What the world has watched instead is a comprehensive and
> malicious assault upon the integrity of the international legal order by a
> group of men and women who are thoroughly Machiavellian in their perception
> of international relations and in their conduct of both foreign policy and
> domestic affairs. This is not simply a question of giving or withholding
> the benefit of the doubt when it comes to complicated matters of foreign
> affairs and defense policies to a U.S. government charged with the security
> of both its own citizens and those of its allies in Europe, the Western
> Hemisphere, and the Pacific. Rather, the Bush Jr. administration's foreign
> policy constitutes ongoing criminal activity under well-recognized
> principles of both international law and U.S. domestic law, in particular
> the Nuremberg Charter, the Nuremberg Judgment, and the Nuremberg
> Principles. So their obliteration of Fallujah was to be expected.*
>
> *One generation ago the peoples of the world asked themselves: Where were
> the "good" Germans? Well, there were some good Germans. The Lutheran
> theologian and pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer was the foremost exemplar of
> someone who led a life of principled opposition to the Nazi-terror state
> even unto death.*
>
> *Today the peoples of the world are likewise asking themselves: Where are
> the "good" Americans? Well, there are some good Americans. Like three
> Catholic Nuns in Denver, they are getting arrested and going to jail for
> protesting against United States weapons of mass destruction (WMD) whose
> power for human extermination far exceeds even the wildest fantasies of
> Hitler and the Nazis. Or else for protesting against illegal U.S.. military
> interventions around the world. Just recently the Nuclear Resister
> estimated that since the Fall of 2002, there have been more than 9,500
> anti-war related arrests in the United States alone. Many more will be
> coming.*
>
> *In international legal terms, the Bush Jr. administration itself should
> now be viewed as constituting an ongoing criminal conspiracy under
> international criminal law in violation of the Nuremberg Charter, the
> Nuremberg Judgment, and the Nuremberg Principles, due to its formulation
> and undertaking of aggressive war policies that are legally akin to those
> perpetrated by the Nazi regime. As a consequence, American citizens possess
> the basic right under international law and the United States domestic law,
> including the U.S. Constitution, to engage in acts of non-violent civil
> resistance in order to prevent, impede, thwart, or terminate ongoing
> criminal activities perpetrated by U.S. government officials in their
> conduct of foreign affairs policies and military operations purported to
> relate to defense and counter-terrorism.*
>
> *This same right of civil resistance extends pari passu to all citizens of
> the world community of states. Everyone around the world has both the right
> and the duty under international law to resist ongoing criminal activities
> perpetrated by the Bush Jr. administration and its nefarious foreign
> accomplices such as Blair, Berlusconi, Howard, Koizumi, Kwasniewski, etc.
> by all non-violent means possible. If it is not so restrained, the Bush Jr.
> administration could very well precipitate a Third World War.*
>
> *The time for preventive action is now. Civil resistance is the way to go.
> People power can overcome power politics. Popular movements have succeeded
> in toppling tyrannical, dictatorial and authoritarian regimes throughout
> former Communist countries in Eastern Europe, as well as in Asia, and most
> recently in Latin America. It is time once again to exercise People Power
> here in the United States of America: "When in the Course of human Events.
> . . We hold these Truths to be self-evident. . . . we mutually pledge to
> each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and sacred Honor."*
>
> *Despite the best efforts by the Bush Jr. Leaguers to the contrary, we
> American Citizens still have our First Amendment Rights: Freedom of Speech,
> Freedom of Association, Freedom of Assembly, Freedom to Petition our
> Government for the Redress of these massive Grievances, Civil Resistance,
> etc. We are going to have to start vigorously exercising all of our First
> Amendment Rights right now. We must use them or else, as the saying goes,
> we will lose them. We must act not only for the good of the Peoples of
> Southwest Asia, but for our future, that of our children, that of our
> nation as a democratic society committed to the Rule of Law and the U.S.
> Constitution. The Nazis had their "homeland" too*
>
> Francis A. Boyle*, Professor of Law, University of Illinois, is author of
> *Foundations of World Order
> <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0822323273/counterpunchmaga>*,
> Duke University Press, *The Criminality of Nuclear Deterrence
> <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0932863337/counterpunchmaga>*,
> and *Palestine, Palestinians and International Law
> <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/093286337X/counterpunchmaga>*, by
> Clarity Press. He can be reached at: *FBOYLE at LAW.UIUC.EDU
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> *From:* Roger Helbig [mailto:rwhelbig at gmail.com <rwhelbig at gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 6:43 PM
> *To:* Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>
> *Cc:* Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>; Estabrook, Carl G <
> galliher at illinois.edu>; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK <
> carl at newsfromneptune.com>; Jay Becker <futureup2us at gmail.com>;
> a-fields at uiuc.edu; Hoffman, Valerie J <vhoffman at illinois.edu>; Joe Lauria
> <joelauria at gmail.com>; Miller, Joseph Thomas <jtmiller at illinois.edu>;
> Szoke, Ron <r-szoke at illinois.edu>; Dave Trippel <davetrippel at ameritech.net>;
> Arlene Hickory <a23h23 at yahoo.com>; David Swanson <davidcnswanson at gmail.com>;
> peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com;
> abass10 at gmail.com; mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne <
> lina at worldcantwait.net>; chicago at worldcantwait.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG
>
>
>
> There was no massacre at Fallujah.   This is nonsense.  Mattis expected
> his troops to be peacekeepers.  They brought soccer balls with them when
> they deployed.
>
>
>
> I would love to see your "so called" war crime indictment.  Wonder how
> much of it is from your fertile Hate America imagination and how much from
> the fertile Arab anti-American propaganda organs.  Doubt a single paragraph
> is actually based on fact.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>
> *Trump’s  Secretary of War Mad Dog Mattis was responsible for the Massacre
> at Fallujah, which I pointed out on Counterpunch was a Nuremberg War Crime
> along the lines of the Nazis—the wanton devastation of a city-- in revenge
> for them killing our mercenaries. Fab.*
>
>
>
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>
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> *From:* Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 10:04 AM
> *To:* Estabrook, Carl G <galliher at illinois.edu>
> *Cc:* Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>; Jay Becker <
> futureup2us at gmail.com>; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK <
> carl at newsfromneptune.com>; a-fields at uiuc.edu; Hoffman, Valerie J <
> vhoffman at illinois.edu>; Miller, Joseph Thomas <jtmiller at illinois.edu>;
> Szoke, Ron <r-szoke at illinois.edu>; sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene
> Hickory <a23h23 at yahoo.com>; peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net;
> David Swanson <davidcnswanson at gmail.com>; Dave Trippel <
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> Thorne <lina at worldcantwait.net>; chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred
> O'brien <moboct1 at aim.com>; David Johnson <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>;
> Joe Lauria <joelauria at gmail.com>; David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Guest Commentary by Carl in NG
>
>
>
> I’m sorry Carl, I don’t agree with that title either. It assumes that all
> in the anti-war movement welcome the Trump administration. Not all of us
> trust he will do some of that which he promised in respect to “defunding
> Nato,” “making friends with Russia,” or killing TPP.  Even if he does those
> three things, his further provocations of China, are every bit as dangerous
> as those with Russia, it’s a mere tactic to drive a wedge between Russia
> and China, while chipping away at Iran.
>
>
>
> His Cabinet appointments are frightening to say the least in respect to
> Healthcare, Energy, Education, Housing, etc, etc.
>
>
>
> Further expansion of war in the Middle East, and North Africa, as well as
> expansion of capitalist corporate control is on the agenda no matter which
> of the two Party’s are in power.
>
>
>
> Obama paved the way, for all of which I have just referred, but it’s not
> over. Our only hope is that “the people” are now awake, and perhaps will
> focus on that which is most serious to survival.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2017, at 07:44, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> My original title was, “Why the anti-war movement welcomes the new
> administration.”
>
>
>
> For more on that theme, see <https://sputniknews.com/
> columnists/201701191049765550-how-trump-presidency-will-play-out/
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sputniknews.com_columnists_201701191049765550-2Dhow-2Dtrump-2Dpresidency-2Dwill-2Dplay-2Dout_&d=DwMGaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=iioab8BLQ6IJxt-3gLhYzf1aAvTbGVgzPJj9W_0ugn0&m=DO2Cdgb5iZtomk8-jICHKdRSL3wyu07R7Ppg2DBO8Lg&s=eOe0hT_RugtbRRm3bb6fk8msEcyDlHTRVj24xwGRAuY&e=>
> >.
>
>
>
> —CGE
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> An excellent letter, which I posted on FB. I deliberately deleted the
> title that I assumed the NG created, because it gives the false impression
> that those of us in the anti-war movement, all support Trump. We don’t, we
> just didn’t support Hillary. Anyone in the anti-war movement supporting
> Hillary was supporting more of the same that Obama provided.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2017, at 07:16, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
> He {Obama} attacked eight countries (two more than George Bush), and
> conducted what one leading political commentator called "the most extreme
> terrorist campaign of modern times — his drone assassinations." He killed
> thousands of civilians with drones, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of
> children.
>
> A good letter by Carl today in NG. (Remember NG writes their own titles to
> letters.) We must now hold Trump’s feet to the fire across the board! I
> think Carl’s quote comes from Chomsky? In any event the Illinois Nazis Law
> Faculty fully supported and promoted and held  out for emulation by lawyers
> and this Campus and our Good Community:
>
> "the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times — his drone
> assassinations."
>
>
>
> The Illinois Nazis Law Faculty are just a GANG OF SICK PUPPIES!
>
> Fab
>
> Ed Norton Professor of Law
>
> Carl Schmitt College of Law:
>
> “Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!”
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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> *Posted on:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:00 AM
> *Author:* digital.media
> *Subject:* Guest Commentary: Why anti-war movement welcomes Trump
>
>
>
> *By C.G. ESTABROOK*
>
> The European anti-war group "No War No NATO" writes as follows:
>
> "Demonstrating in Europe on 21 January, against the newly elected US
> President Donald Trump is tantamount to lending support to the Obama
> administration, which has transformed Europe into NATO's first line of
> attack, nuclear matters inclusive, against Russia.
>
> read more
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