[Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG

Sun Nov 5 20:06:01 UTC 2017

Probably roughly where it is, wouldn’t you think?

> On Nov 5, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> Yeah, as I said before: Where would China be today without Mao's Good Ole Cultural Revolution?
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> fab
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> Francis A. Boyle
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 10:52 AM
> To: Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>
> Cc: Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>; Peace-discuss <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG
> 
> Many Americans don’t realize that the greatest unpleasant fp surprise to the US elite in the 20th century was neither the Bolshevik coup (which led the Wilson administration to invade Russia) nor Pearl Harbor (which the Roosevelt administration angled for, as the Lincoln administration angled for the attack on Fort Sumter, and for the same reason: to coerce an unwilling US public into war).
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> It was rather the ‘loss of China' in 1949. And for that reason, China is misrepresented in US media and scholarship, more than any other major state, with the possible exception of Russia.
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> Perhaps the paramount task of the anti-war movement is to combat those misrepresentations - including the Cultural Revolution (1966-76) and the Tiananmen Square protests (1989) - as the Trump administration continues the previous administration’s war provocations against those two counties.
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> —CGE
> 
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>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>> Where would China be today without Mao's Good Ole Cultural Revolution?
>> 
>> Fab
>> 
>> 
>> Francis A. Boyle
>> Law Building
>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
>> Champaign IL 61820 USA
>> 217-333-7954 (phone)
>> 217-244-1478 (fax)
>> (personal comments only)
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Boyle, Francis A 
>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 10:11 AM
>> To: 'C G Estabrook' <cgestabrook at gmail.com>; Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>; Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com>; Peace-discuss <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>> Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG
>> 
>> Yeah, Mao's Good Ole Cultural Revolution. Fab.
>> 
>> Francis A. Boyle
>> Law Building
>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
>> Champaign IL 61820 USA
>> 217-333-7954 (phone)
>> 217-244-1478 (fax)
>> (personal comments only)
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 10:06 AM
>> To: Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>; David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>; Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com>; Peace-discuss <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG
>> 
>> “…can’t allow…”?
>> 
>> Who gets to do the allowing?  百花齐放，百家争鸣  
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>> ('"Let a hundred flowers bloom; let a hundred schools of thought contend" is the policy for promoting progress in the arts and the sciences and a flourishing socialist culture in our land.')
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>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Carl
>>> 
>>> My point is that these discussions on the Peace Discuss List, with so many ad hominids, with people who clearly support war and destruction, and not with sound arguments, but with goals to merely trash everything we say, as trolls, is a deterrent to folks with real interests in the topic of “anti-war” and peace. 
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>>> George Orwell likely was not referring to the internet back in the day. 
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>>> It is probably why we can’t allow anything other than “announcements” on the Peace List. I don’t like it, but understand it.
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>>> PS Misspelling is due to “spell check.”
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>>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 06:36, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu> wrote:
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>>>> For sure Carl. And I am very happy to be doing it with you all. Fab.
>>>> 
>>>> Francis A. Boyle
>>>> Law Building
>>>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
>>>> Champaign IL 61820 USA
>>>> 217-333-7954 (phone)
>>>> 217-244-1478 (fax)
>>>> (personal comments only)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] 
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 8:31 AM
>>>> To: Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>
>>>> Cc: Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>; David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>; Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com>; Peace-discuss <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Guest Commentary by Carl in NG
>>>> 
>>>> And the political establishment is desperately using the comic figure of Donald Trump to distract us from the crimes of Obama and Clinton (which Trump continues).
>>>> 
>>>> Exposing and opposing those crimes, past and present, are what people like us, who have the leisure to do so, should be doing - as you are. —CGE
>>>> 
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>>>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 8:12 AM, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh. And this is what Roger told  about Mr. Alwaki’s 16 year old son, a US citizen drone murdered to death by KillerKoh/Clinton/Obama et al:
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>>>>> "This piece of shit doesn't do you any honor - the kid was killed because he went to where his Dad was recruiting and training Americans to kill Americans –"
>>>>> 
>>>>> According to the Intercept Expose on the Obama/Clinton/KillerKoh drone murder campaign, their CIA source told the Intercept that Mr. Alwaki’s child  was deliberately murdered. And now we have killed his daughter. Corruption of Blood. Just like what Kings used to do during the Middle Ages. Kings Obama/Trump. Now prohibited by the United States Constitution. But as President George Bush Jr once said about the Constitution: “It’s just a goddam’ piece of paper!” Ditto for Harvard Law Obama. Ditto for Yale Law Clinton. Ditto for Harvard/Yale Law Killer Koh. Ditto for the Dean and Faculty of the University of Illiniwaks College of Law. fab
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