[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Prominent Iraq/Iran warmonger Eliot Cohen speaking at UIUC November 9, 2017

[Carl G. Estabrook]

Roger is here as an 'advocatus diaboli,’ the Devil’s advocate, an apologist for evil - and should be welcomed as such, in order that we recognize the evil and refute it. 

Like Owen Glendower (in Henry IV, 1), he can call spirits from the vasty deep, and we should take Hotspur’s advice in responding:

GLENDOWER
I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
HOTSPUR
Why, so can I, or so can any man,
But will they come when you do call for them?
GLENDOWER
Why, I can teach you, cousin, to command the devil.
HOTSPUR
And I can teach thee, coz, to shame the devil
By telling truth. Tell truth and shame the devil.
If thou have power to raise him, bring him hither,
And I’ll be sworn I have power to shame him hence.
O, while you live, tell truth and shame the devil!

—CGE

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> I’m with Carl, Francis and Robert. 
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> What is Roger doing on this “Peace Discuss List” always supporting, or excusing USG wars. 
> We should only be signing up those interested in ”peace.” 
> We have enough discord between those of us who don’t support USG wars, to keep our audience either entertained or irritated. 
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>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 13:06, Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>> What the hell. I'm with Carl on this. Come on. If you are on a list called "peace" in the United States, your top obligation and responsibility in the world is the contribution of the United States government to not-peace. If you can't deal with that obligation and responsibility, you should shut the hell up. 
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>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:48 PM, C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>> Oh, we’re responsible for only perhaps 40,000 corpses in that war. That’s ok then.
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>> > On Nov 5, 2017, at 4:50 AM, Roger Helbig via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>> > There you go - exterminate 200,000 Iraqis - US never did that and you know it.  Why spread lies - does it make you feel big?
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>> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>> > And speaking of ACDIS and Kolodziej and the wars against Iraq and warmongering and NeoCons,  Kolodziej tried to blackball me off of the All University Forum held in Foelinger Auditorium  on the eve of  Bush Sr’s War against Iraq in mid-January of 1991. Meanwhile Kolodziej had flown in the NeoCon Warmonger Geoff Kemp to argue in favor of the war that would exterminate about 200,000 Iraqis. Bombs away once  again at the warmongering University of Illinois!
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>> > Fab.
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>> ______