[Peace-discuss] [ufpj-activist] ‘Tainted by association’: CIA whistleblower says progressives kicked him off EU panel

Sat Nov 11 22:48:56 UTC 2017

I suggest we distinguish neoliberalism from neoconservatism as follows:

~ neoliberals call for a deregulated American capitalism: more exploitation;
~ neoconservatives call for an 'unleashed’ American military: more war.

Both arise in the 1970s in reaction to the ‘crisis of democracy’ - i.e., the demand for more democracy that grew out of the opposition to the Vietnam war, and led to popular opposition to war and economic exploitation.  (The first motto of Students for a Democratic Society was, “Let the people decide!”)

But American presidents for 40 years have pursued pro-war (neocon) and pro-Wall Street (neolib) policies.   

The attempt to make the definitions pellucid can get out of hand: I wrote the following after Trump’s election.
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In the US political lexicon, neo-liberalism is not liberalism (roughly, the New Deal-Great Society tradition), but its opposite.

Similarly, neo-conservatism is not conservatism (roughly, the isolationist tradition), but its opposite.

Can we assume, then, the current vogue term, 'neo-fascism,' means not fascism (of the 20th century sort) - but its opposite?

That at least is the danger that the US political establishment perceives in the Trump presidency.

Classic fascism combined what we call neoliberalism (state-supported economic exploitation, at home and abroad) and neoconservatism (militarist repression, abroad and even at home).

Fascism's defeat in WWII led in 'les trente glorieuses' (1945-75) to the welfare state and the United Nations.

But beginning in the 1970s, dominant social groups in Europe and America began the overthrow of the welfare state and the UN, accomplished in the 1990s ('austerity ' and Clinton's non-UN-approved attack on Yugoslavia) - after the 1991 destruction of  'the threat of a good example’ (i.e., the socialist ideal, whatever the practice), the USSR.

Trump is the first major party presidential candidate since the 1970s not to pay homage to the principles of neoliberalism and neoconservatism. 

That's why the US political establishment is so desperate to force those principles on the new administration.
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—CGE

> On Nov 11, 2017, at 6:21 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> It is to be expected. 
> Progressives, Bernie supporters, Democrats et al, they fear any mention of “foreign policy,” or the fact that more “Whistleblowers” like John, were arrested, pursued and incarcerated under the Democratic regime of Obama, than ever in our history. 
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> Yes, the neocons are awful, but the neoliberals are complicit in all. 
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>> On Nov 11, 2017, at 03:02, Robert Naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org <mailto:naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>> wrote:
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>> This is horrible. Can we organize some kind of intervention to stop this from happening?
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