[Peace-discuss] FW: [Peace] anti-war teach in today 9/23 1pm-5pm -- with schedule of speakers

Sun Sep 24 12:56:10 UTC 2017

Mort

I am truly sorry you put in so much time and effort and didn't have a chance to speak on this panel. I'm also sorry you were one of the last speakers and had to sit through the whole four hours. . It's also unfortunate that you didn't enjoy your time there with the other panelists.

Stuart has kindly offered to film/record you in in the studio when convenient. You also have the opportunity to post your presentation, or have it published, as you did with your previous presentation.

Everyone was aware of the 20 minute limitation, but some did go over the 20 minutes time allowed. Yes, Vukoni did take more time than others, he spoke slower than usual which was likely due to the fact that he was the youngest panelist, still a student, a non American, informing a group of white Americans of the atrocities they are responsible for committing in his homeland.

What was important was the substance or quality of the speeches of the panelists, or the message. This was not a debate with a timer.

It was poor management on my part to have nine panelists, but given the subject material that needed to be covered, and those panelists who have never been heard from before, certainly not in this town, I couldn't resist. I'm not a professional event planner, and in fact really dislike planning events, but it needed doing.

Focus on Africa, with US interventions both past, present and future is extremely important. Most Americans haven't a clue what is taking place across the African continent. Let alone  what is going to take place there given our military presence that was brought about by the Obama administration.  And, what will likely take place under the Trump administration. We were privileged to have someone who truly knows the history and the likely future of the many nations within that continent of which we hear only the propaganda.

I just hope someone else continues "anti-war teach ins," because unless Americans understand, where all the money is going, supporting the war machine, and stop it. There will be no funding to prevent or curb global warming, which is already destroying us.

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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: [Peace] anti-war teach in *today* 9/23 1pm-5pm -- with schedule of speakers

It was not "time constraints" that prevented two from presenting their talks, but terrible management of the time allowed for some speakers, most notably the fellow who talked about Africa. Terribly unfair!

—mkb

On Sep 23, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Everyone was absolutely awesome. I'm sorry two of the panelists didn't have a chance to speak, due to time constraints, but it was truly an awesome line up of speakers.

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Subject: RE: FW: [Peace] anti-war teach in *today* 9/23 1pm-5pm -- with schedule of speakers

Yeah, we needed Harry’s songs. And thanks to Karen for making it all happen. Fab.

Francis A. Boyle
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Subject: Re: FW: [Peace] anti-war teach in *today* 9/23 1pm-5pm -- with schedule of speakers

David Green is responsible for formatting and printing the flyers. I assume he thought it applicable to your topic and songs.

Thanks Harry, you were as always terrific.
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Subject: Re: FW: [Peace] anti-war teach in *today* 9/23 1pm-5pm -- with schedule of speakers

Haha, I appreciate the Rage Against the Machine reference, but my organization is called "STEM Strikes the War Machine"

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu<mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu>> wrote:
My thanks to everyone involved for getting this organized. We are carrying on with the tradition of our anti-Killer-Koh Protest. Fab.

Francis A. Boyle
Law Building
504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
Champaign IL 61820 USA
217-333-7954<tel:(217)%20333-7954> (phone)
217-244-1478<tel:(217)%20244-1478> (fax)
(personal comments only)

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Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:04 AM
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Subject: [Peace] anti-war teach in *today* 9/23 1pm-5pm -- with schedule of speakers

The anti-war teach-in is happening *today*, Saturday 9/23, 1pm until 5pm or so, at Channing-Murray Foundation.

Here is the planned schedule of speakers (making it easier to come & go through an event this long) ... [sorry if you get this twice]

Anti-War Teach-In
Sponsored by
Students for Economic Empowerment (SEE)
Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana (AWARE)
Channing-Murray Chapel
1204 West Oregon Ave. (Oregon & Matthews), Urbana
Saturday, September 23rd, 1pm - 5pm or so
Opening remarks
Grant Neal and Nick Goodell, SEE
Karen Aram, AWARE

1:10 p.m.
Illegalities of U.S. Wars
Francis Boyle, Professor of International Law

History of U.S. War
Carl Estabrook, Professor of Sociology, retired

U.S. Government Support for Dictatorships
Rich Whitney Esq., Illinois Green Party

Q & A

2:10 p.m.
Brief statements by student groups
2:25 p.m.
Libya and Syria
Paula Bradshaw, Illinois Green Party
Israel and Palestine
David Green, Jewish Voice for Peace

Africa
Vukoni Lupa Lasaga, Ph.D. candidate

Q & A

3:25 p.m.
Musical entertainment
Harry Mickalide, STEM Students Rage Against the War Machine

3:40 p.m.
Costs of War
Morton Brussel, Professor of Physics Emeritus

El Salvador
Father Tom Royer

Venezuela and Central America
David Johnson, retired union carpenter, World Labor Hour (WRFU)
Final Q & A

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