From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Apr 1 12:14:44 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 12:14:44 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Israel Massacres Unarmed Gaza Protesters, Shooting 773 with Live Ammunition, killing 17 people Message-ID: Israel Massacres Unarmed Gaza Protesters, Shooting 773 with Live Ammunition The Israeli military brutally crushed a protest on the Gaza border led by tens of thousands of Palestinians, killing 16 and injuring 1,400. Journalist Max Blumenthal speaks of Israel's suffocating blockade of the strip and the biased media reporting on the "Great Return March."Ben Norton is a producer and reporter for The Real News. His work focuses primarily on U.S. foreign policy, the Middle East, media criticism, and movements for economic and social justice. Ben Norton was previously a staff writer at Salon and AlterNet. You can find him on Twitter at @BenjaminNorton. Max Blumenthal is an award-winning journalist and bestselling author whose articles and video documentaries have appeared in The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, The Daily Beast, The Nation, The Guardian, The Independent Film Channel, The Huffington Post, Salon.com, Al Jazeera English and many other publications. His most recent book is Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel. His other book, Republican Gomorrah: Inside The Movement That Shattered The Party, is a New York Times and Los Angeles Times bestseller. Max is co-host of the podcast Moderate Rebels. ________________________________ transcript [http://therealnews.com/media/trn_2018-03-01/bnorton0331gazareport-240.jpg]BEN NORTON: Tens of thousands of Palestinians living under a suffocating Israeli blockade in Gaza organized a massive peaceful march on the border with Israel. And they were met with a sea of bullets. Israel crushed the historic protest with extreme violence, mowing down the unarmed protesters. More than 1,400 Palestinians were injured. The Israeli military deployed more than 100 snipers, who shot 773 protesters with live ammunition. At least 16 Gazans were killed in the massacre. Israel's military later openly admitted that the massacre had been intentional and pre-planned. The IDF wrote on Twitter, "everything was accurate and measured, and we know where every bullet landed." Soon after, it deleted these tweets. The demonstration, which was dubbed the "Great Return March," had been organized for months, in order to demand the right Palestinian refugees have under international law to return to their homes, which Israel ethnically cleansed in 1948. The protesters also condemned Israel's decade-long blockade of the Gaza Strip, which United Nations experts have explicitly said is illegal. Because of this smothering siege, 1.8 million Palestinians are trapped inside Gaza with little water, food, and electricity. Even the United Kingdom's Conservative former Prime Minister David Cameron has described the Israeli-besieged Gaza Strip as a "prison camp" and "open-air prison." The Real News spoke about the historic protest with journalist Max Blumenthal, who recently reported from on the ground in Gaza. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 1 13:30:38 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 13:30:38 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Carl's Letter in NG :Request for comments on the Significance of Mueller's appointment as Special Prosecutor by Sputnik Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:36 PM While working as the US Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division in the Department of Justice under President George Bush Sr. of the CIA—once CIA, always CIA—Mueller was put in charge of working in cahoots with the CIA and the FBI to orchestrate and manufacture the so-called evidence and case that framed Muammar Ghadafy for the bombing of the PanAm Jet over Lockerbie Scotland in order to let Iran and Syria off of their previously alleged responsibility for this heinous act of mass murder and terrorism against American and Scottish citizens. Mueller is a political/legal hatchet-man for the Bush Family, the CIA, the FBI and the so-called Deep State here in the United States. His appointment does not augur well for President Trump and his professed goal of improving relations between the United States and Russia. It could be that Mueller will pave the way for President Trump’s impeachment and an even more serious and dangerous deterioration in relations between the United States and Russia. Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law Author, Destroying Libya and World Order -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 1 13:33:38 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 13:33:38 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Trump Embroiled in War With US Political Elite Over Russia Policy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: ActionGreens at yahoogroups.com [mailto:ActionGreens at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Boyle, Francis A' fboyle at illinois.edu [ActionGreens] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:12 PM To: actiongreens at yahoogroups.com Subject: [ActionGreens] FW: Trump Embroiled in War With US Political Elite Over Russia Policy Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:11 PM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: Trump Embroiled in War With US Political Elite Over Russia Policy https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201706161054681917-trump-embroiled-elite-war/ Sputnik International all editions> 06:01 GMT +316 June 2017 President Donald Trump arrives for a ceremony in the East Room of the White House in Washington, Monday, June 5, 2017 Trump Embroiled in War With US Political Elite Over Russia Policy Opinion 05:57 16.06.2017 Get short URL 0 4 0 0 Analysts claim that Donald Trump is involved in an intense conflict against the US foreign policy elite in his bid to improve relations with Russia. Robert Mueller (c) AP Photo/ J. Scott Applewhite So Much for Impartial? Justice Department Team Heading Trump-Russia Probe Donated Big to US Democrats WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - President Donald Trump is involved in an intense conflict against the US foreign policy elite in his bid to improve relations with Russia, analysts told Sputnik. "I think President Putin is correct: We are seeing a battle of elites here in the country and it is all over policy towards Russia," University of Illinois Professor of International Law Francis Boyle said on Thursday Boyle observed that in his testimony on Wednesday before the House Foreign Affairs Committee (HFAC), Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said he was trying to negotiate with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov a solution to the conflict in Ukraine. However, Republican and Democratic hardliners in Congress, especially in the Senate were trying to push through new sanctions against Russia to destroy the new peace initiative, Boyle pointed out. "The Senate just approved a new package of sanctions on Russia... We see the Democratic Party, the Hillary Clinton people and the US news media and it also appears the CIA and the FBI, the pillars of the Deep State are lining up against improved relations," he said. The hostility against reducing tensions with Russia was reminiscent of the most dangerous period of the Joe McCarthy anti-communist hysteria of the early 1950s, Boyle recalled. "NSA [National Security Agency] is doing all the leaking. They are lining up for continuation of the Obama aggressive policies on Russia. This is a very dangerous situation," he said Tillerson made it clear in his HFAC testimony that on May 10 he was discussing Ukraine with Lavrov, Boyle noted. "They are trying to set up a new process with Russia to resolve the conflict. Now it appears that Trump and Putin through Tillerson and Lavrov hope to take matters into their own hands," he said. President Donald Trump listens during a news conference with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg in the East Room of the White House in Washington, Wednesday, April 12, 2017. (c) AP Photo/ Andrew Harnik How Obama's State Department Sabotaged Trump's Efforts to Normalize US-Russia Relations Tillerson had made clear that the US government was prepared to work with Russia directly to bypass the Minsk process to try and resolve the Ukraine conflict, Boyle added. "But these elite factions are fighting back. They are determined to prevent it," he said. "That is why you are seeing this furious fight back." Ohio State University Professor Emeritus of International Law John Quigley told Sputnik that dominant forces in Congress in both parties are opposed improving relations with Russia. "The US Congress is presently regarding the relationship with Russia as one of hostility. The US Congress is calling for more sanctions against Russia. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Francis Boyle via YouTube [mailto:noreply at youtube.com] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 6:16 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: Francis Boyle sent you a video: "Boycott, Divest, Sanction: Stopping Zionist Genocide Against the Palestinians" [https://s.ytimg.com/yt/img/email/digest/email_header.png] [https://yt3.ggpht.com/-w4phvYGWivc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/_Vq2X19VNEk/s50-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg] Francis Boyle has shared a video with you on YouTube [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4G6uo7hLAq4/mqdefault.jpg] Boycott, Divest, Sanction: Stopping Zionist Genocide Against the Palestinians by UPTV6 University of Illinois College of Law professor Francis Boyle speaks to the grave injustice that is the treatment of the Palestinian people both within the West Bank and Gaza, as well as within Israel proper. 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He is author of the book Failed: What the "Experts" Got Wrong About the Global Economy (Oxford University Press, 2015), co-author, with Dean Baker, of Social Security: The Phony Crisis (University of Chicago Press, 2000), and has written numerous research papers on economic policy. He writes a column on economic and policy issues that is distributed to over 550 newspapers by the Tribune Content Agency. His opinion pieces have appeared in The Guardian, New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times and most major U.S. newspapers, as well as in Brazil's largest newspaper, Folha de Sao Paulo. He appears regularly on national and local television and radio programs. He is also president of Just Foreign Policy. ________________________________ transcript [http://therealnews.com/media/trn_2018-03-01/mweisbrot0329chinatarrifs-240.jpg]SHARMINI PERIES: It's the Real News Network. I'm Sharmini Peries coming to you from Baltimore. Last week, Asian stock markets declined in anticipation of the steel tariffs imposed by Donald Trump. Here is Gao Feng, spokesperson for China's Ministry of Commerce, speaking on Thursday on the ramification of Trump's new trade policies. GAO FENG: The U.S. approach on trade sets a very bad precedent. Imposing tariffs on Chinese products is a blatant violation of World Trade Organization rules. It shows the multilateral trading system is completely ignored. It shows contempt and infringement of multilateral rules, and could trigger a domino effect of trade protectionism, which will cast a shadow again over the recovered global economy. SHARMINI PERIES: But according to an article that our next guest Mark Weisbrot wrote in the Nation, titled "The threat of trade war is overblown. Real war is far more likely," he points out that the U.S. has already exempted the major suppliers of steel and aluminum from the new tariffs, including the EU, Brazil, Argentina, South Korea, Australia, Canada, and Mexico. So we're going to ask Mark to explain himself. Mark Weisbrot is co-director of the Center for Economic Policy and Research in Washington, D.C. He received his Ph.D. in economics from the University of Michigan. He's the author of "Failed: What the Experts Got Wrong About the Global Economy." He joins us today from Washington, D.C. And I should mention he's also the president of Just Foreign Policy. Thanks for joining us, Mark. MARK WEISBROT: Thanks for having me , Sharmini. SHARMINI PERIES: So, Mark, before we get to your article, explain what exactly the new tariffs are and how significant they are in terms of U.S.-China trade relations. MARK WEISBROT: Well, there's two sets of tariffs that the Trump administration announced. One, you mentioned, was the steel, tariffs on steel and aluminum. And as you noted, within three weeks they had exempted most of the major suppliers of steel and aluminum to the United States. Those would still apply to China. Now, then they, then Trump announced more recently tariffs on Chinese exports, 60 billion dollars worth of Chinese exports to the United States. And he didn't specify they would be high technology imports, exports, but he didn't say exactly what. And that's about 3.6 percent of China's total exports. And of course they wouldn't lose all that. They would just lose a fraction of that from the tariffs. SHARMINI PERIES: All right, Mark, back on March 15 we interviewed Michael Hudson, who told the Real News that stock prices for steel went up by 40 percent when Trump announced the tariffs. This affects many sectors of the economy. But you call the tariffs in your article weapons of mass distraction. What is Trump distracting us from? MARK WEISBROT: Well, that's just Trump's presidency. It's all about distraction. The distractions roll off his Twitter feed every day. You know, there's investigations of him. There's, he hasn't delivered on his program. He promised jobs, he promised, you know, infrastructure, good paying jobs. His whole infrastructure program, for example, the federal spending is 200 billion over ten years. That's eight hundredths of one percent of U.S. GDP over those next ten years. So that's really not going to do anything at all. So he hasn't really delivered on his promises, and he doesn't have anything to show. So this is why, I mean, I think, I mean, I'm just guessing. But I think this is why you see distractions almost every day. SHARMINI PERIES: Mark, if this is a distraction and there is exemptions to all these countries except China, what do you make of what the Chinese spokesperson for the Ministry of Trade said? MARK WEISBROT: Well, it wasn't just the Chinese trade ministry that said that. I mean, you see this all over the media, this great threat of trade wars and the whole global trading order breaking down, because there's, but I really don't see this happening. For example, China itself, despite what you heard from the Trade Ministry just now, they imposed their retaliation for this deal when aluminum tariffs, tariffs on three billion dollars worth of U.S. goods. And that's, you know, 13 hundredths of one percent of U.S. exports. Nobody's going to feel that here. And so nothing's really happened, nobody's really responding. Nobody is going to escalate, I think, against Trump and start a real trade war, because first of all they realize it's Trump, and you know, he changes his mind every day. He changes his policy every day. He already took back most of the steel and aluminium tariffs within the first three weeks. And he doesn't represent the major decision makers in this country on issues of trade at all. And so they can wait him out. There would be no sense in them causing some kind of real damage to their own economies by getting, by escalating this. And so I think that those are some of the reasons why you're not going to see any kind of trade, damaging trade war that so many pundits and economists and politicians and people who just want to support the status quo are saying. SHARMINI PERIES: China isn't the only country that's concerned about these tariffs. The EU, for example, is threatening to raise tariffs on U.S. products as well. What do you think after all of this in terms of the relations between international communities that are often allied but now getting into this contestation or, as many people call it, a trade war? MARK WEISBROT: Well, again, I don't see anything from the EU, either. There hasn't been any retaliation yet. That, initial threats were right after the announcement of the aluminum and steel tariffs. And they, they've been exempted. So I don't see anything there yet, either. I don't, I really don't think you're going to see it between Trump's isolation within his own elite and the fact that everybody else can wait him out, I don't see any kind of trade war developing. SHARMINI PERIES: All right, Mark So what did you mean that a real war is more likely. Well you know his presidency is doing pretty badly and it's likely to get worse. And so in terms of distractions, of course, war is the ultimate distraction. And it's the only thing, unlike the trade wars where he runs into all kinds of opposition from powerful people and from the media, if you look at when he bombed Syria that was practically the only thing he did in his presidency where he got that much glory and love from the media and even from opposition politicians. So it's going to be very tempting for him to do that. And of course he's appointed this really extremist, or is trying to, war cabinet, including Bolton and Pompeo. And so it's a very dangerous time. And I think that's really the much bigger risk. The trade war is really nothing compared to that. SHARMINI PERIES: All right, Mark, as usual I thank you so much for joining us today and look forward to your report next week. MARK WEISBROT: Thank you, Sharmini. SHARMINI PERIES: And thank you for joining us here on the Real News Network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Apr 2 15:51:41 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 15:51:41 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] US media's silent complicity in Israeli massacre in Gaza Message-ID: US media’s silent complicity in Israeli massacre in Gaza Jean Shaoul and Barry Grey 2 April 2018 Major American media outlets, led by the New York Times, are treating the Israeli military’s mass killing and wounding of unarmed, peaceful Palestinian protesters in Gaza as a non-event. On Friday, as tens of thousands of Palestinians gathered near the militarized border with Israel to protest Israeli expropriation of Palestinian land and demand the right of Palestinian refugees to return to their homeland, Israeli troops and sharpshooters opened fire, killing at least 16 people and wounding some 1,400 more. Millions around the world reacted with shock and horror at the scenes of deliberate murder, using live ammunition. One video showed a young man running away from the border fence who was shot in the back and killed by Israeli troops. Another showed that at least two of those killed were unarmed as they walked slowly towards the Israel border. The Israel Defence Forces (IDF) deployed troops and more than 100 snipers to shoot unarmed protestors demonstrating in the towns and cities of the tiny enclave as well as the thousands who gathered at the border with Israel. According to Hamas, the bourgeois Islamist group that controls the Palestinian enclave, only five of those killed on Friday belonged to Hamas’s military wing, the rest being civilians. The US intervened at the United Nations Security Council to block a resolution put forward by Kuwait calling for an independent investigation into the mass shooting, and Israeli spokesmen flatly rejected any such probe, congratulating the Israeli soldiers for “defending Israeli sovereignty.” Israel’s chief military spokesman, Brigadier General Ronen Manelis, warned that the IDF would step up its violence on the Gaza border. He added that the IDF had restricted its actions thus far to the border fence, but it was prepared to “act against these terror organizations in other places too,” that is, within Gaza. In line with the full support for the Israeli slaughter from the US government and both major parties, the New York Timespublished a perfunctory news story on the massacre in its Saturday edition and completely dropped the issue in its Sunday edition and on its website. This is despite the fact that the IDF and the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, emboldened by the muted response from Western governments and the media, continued the attack Saturday on a smaller turnout of demonstrators, wounding scores of protesters. The same Sunday edition of the so-called “newspaper of record” featured a long article on alleged atrocities by the Syrian government and another article bemoaning the illegal poaching of abalone in South Africa. The Israeli massacre was barely mentioned on the Sunday television interview programs and has evoked no editorial statements by major media outlets. Friday’s demonstration was announced as the beginning of six weeks of peaceful protests, called the “March of Return,” to conclude on May 15, the 70th anniversary of the establishment of the state of Israel, which the Palestinians commemorate as Nakba (Catastrophe Day), when the US is set to open its embassy in Jerusalem. The transfer of the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, announced last year by President Donald Trump, is a massive provocation, as the Palestinians claim Jerusalem as the capital of a future state. The massacre on Friday was the deadliest day of violence since Israel’s 2014 war on Gaza, which killed 2,250 Palestinians, the majority of whom were civilians. This followed criminal assaults on the besieged and impoverished enclave in 2008-2009 and 2012, killing 1,217 and 147 people, respectively, overwhelmingly civilians. All these war crimes were backed by Washington. Israel has enforced a blockade on Gaza since 2007, joined by Egypt, which, along with the destruction of infrastructure by the Israeli military, has devastated the territory and its 1.9 million inhabitants. Power cuts have led to water shortages and untreated sewage, wages for thousands of public-sector workers have been cut or eliminated, and the Trump administration has withheld funding for food aid and for the United Nations Relief and Work Agency, which supports some 1.2 million people in Gaza. One can only imagine the outraged editorials, commentaries and news exclusives that would flood the print and broadcast media if anything similar were carried out by Syrian or Russian forces. When Alexei Navalny, the far-right, anti-immigrant opponent of Vladimir Putin, is arrested, it immediately becomes front-page news. For weeks, a completely manufactured scandal over the alleged poisoning of former Russian spy and British double agent Sergei Skripal and his adult daughter, based on entirely unsubstantiated allegations of Russian government involvement, has been used as the pretext for a massive escalation of the diplomatic and military offensive led by Washington against Moscow. But the same media outlets take as a matter of course that Palestinians are shot down and murdered, as if they were insects. The social media corporations, in line with their crackdown on freedom of speech on the Internet, are doing their part. Under Israeli and US pressure, Facebook last week shut down the page of a major Palestinian news outlet, the Safa Palestinian Press Agency, which has 1.3 million followers. Facebook defended its action as a move against “hate speech” and “incitement.” Israel’s criminal and provocative actions against Gaza, with its promise of stepped-up action in the run-up to May 15, must be seen in the context of Tel Aviv and Riyadh’s mutual determination to wage war on Iran, with the blessings or direct participation of Washington. Netanyahu, by igniting a broader response from the Palestinians and workers throughout the region, is set on creating the necessary conditions for a massive intervention by the US against Iran and its regional allies. The silence of the US media is an act of complicity in war crimes. It speaks for the international bourgeoisie, which stands aside in either open or tacit support for the homicidal policies of a gangster regime. For all the cynical blather in the capitalist media about “human rights”—when it serves as a cover for neo-colonial wars for regime change and plunder—the old saying holds: All morality is class morality. The international working class must be warned: The events in Gaza are a sign of things to come. Reaction, militarism and the drive to dictatorship are sweeping across all of the major powers in response to the deepening of the world capitalist crisis and the growing signs of working-class resistance. An essential part of the working-class response is to come to the defence of the Palestinian masses and fight for the unity of all workers, across all religious and national lines, in the Middle East and internationally. WSWS.ORG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Apr 2 17:11:19 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 17:11:19 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Syria Message-ID: * Print * Leaflet * Feedback * Share » Syria debacle deepens crisis of Trump administration By Patrick Martin 2 April 2018 The last significant enclave held by US-backed groups near the Syrian capital of Damascus collapsed Sunday with the agreement of two groups to evacuate and of another to submit to Russian military police acting on behalf of President Bashar al-Assad. The fall of Eastern Ghouta, with a population estimated at 400,000 people, is the biggest debacle suffered by the US-backed Islamist groups since the Assad regime recaptured the country’s largest city, Aleppo, in December 2016. The largest rebel group in Eastern Ghouta, Jaish al-Islam, which controlled Douma, the biggest population center in the area, reached an agreement Sunday on evacuating the enclave, according to the Syrian government news service SANA. Other reports said Jaish al-Islam was still pressing for Russian military police to be introduced as a buffer force between its own fighters and Syrian army troops. Jaish al-Islam agreed Saturday to evacuate its wounded to Idlib, in northwestern Syria, the last province in the country under the control of Islamist forces opposed to Assad. The group was in negotiations with the Assad government through Russian mediators. Two smaller rebel groups reached a full evacuation deal with the Russian intermediaries, which called for the evacuation of 19,000 people to Idlib, including fighters from the Faylaq al-Rahman and Ahrar al-Sham groups, their families, and residents who wished to join them. Douma and the surrounding Eastern Ghouta area, comprising eastern suburbs of Damascus and an adjacent rural area that served as a source of food, have been under the control of rebel forces since 2013, but largely cut off from other groups fighting the Assad regime. The Syrian army stepped up its siege of the enclave in February, accompanied by heavy bombing raids by Russian warplanes, and then in March began incursions that systematically broke through rebel lines and separated the insurgents into isolated pockets that were overwhelmed or starved out one by one. The biggest breakthrough came Friday and Saturday, after rebel resistance except in Douma itself effectively collapsed. The southern and western portions of the Ghouta region were evacuated by rebel forces Saturday afternoon. It is the comprehensive defeat of the US-backed rebels and the consolidation of the Assad regime’s control over the last area from which attacks could be mounted on the capital that underlies the evident disarray in US policy in Syria. On Thursday, President Trump told a campaign-style rally in Richfield, Ohio that US forces would “be coming out of Syria, like, very soon. Let the other people take care of it now.” While the remark came in the context of Trump boasting about the successes of US military forces against ISIS in eastern Syria and western Iraq, his suggestion that the 2,000 US troops now in Syria could soon be withdrawn contradicted the official policy of his own administration. In a speech delivered by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson barely two months ago, the administration publicly declared its intention to stay in Syria more or less indefinitely, not merely to ensure the final destruction of ISIS, but to achieve the longstanding goal of US imperialist policy in the country, the ouster of the Assad regime, which is allied to Iran and Russia, and its replacement by a US puppet. Tillerson’s pronouncement followed close on the release of a new US military strategy document that declared that the Pentagon was now making as its top priority, not the struggle against so-called terrorist groups, but great power conflicts, particularly with Russia and China, that could erupt into major, and even nuclear wars. Trump fired Tillerson on March 13, and National Security Advisor General H. R. McMaster on March 22, but he proposed to replace them with even more belligerent figures, CIA Director Mike Pompeo to head the State Department, and John Bolton, ambassador to the UN under the Bush administration and a major architect of the Iraq war, to replace McMaster. Accordingly, Trump’s sudden prediction that US forces would withdraw from Syria “very soon,” caused consternation at the Pentagon, the State Department, the National Security Council, and the editorial pages of pro-war publications like the Washington Post. While the initial response of the military-intelligence agencies was to dismiss Trump’s comment as though it was a random tweet, the remark was followed by reports revealing that the White House had put on hold some $200 million in State Department funding for “stabilization projects” in Syria. Tillerson had announced the new spending on roads, water and sewer repairs in areas of eastern Syria captured from ISIS during a visit to the region in February. The Associated Press reported Friday that Trump’s comment about pulling out of Syria “was not a one-off,” but reflected sentiments he had expressed in internal meetings with top aides for more than a month. The corporate media has responded with a barrage of commentaries denouncing Trump’s comment as a surrender to Assad and to Russian President Vladimir Putin, Assad’s principal backer internationally, along with Tehran. The Washington Post in particular has devoted column after column to demanding a long-term US commitment to military intervention in Syria. An Easter Sunday editorial sought to dismiss Trump’s comment as “the gap between the policies pursued by President Trump’s administration and what the president says when he is outside the range of a teleprompter…” The editorial pointed to the conflict between Trump’s remark and the statements of Secretary of Defense James Mattis and other top officials, while warning, “the president’s words will surely encourage Russian and Iranian hopes of driving the United States out of the country, so they can entrench their military bases and political influence. That would pose a major threat to Israel and severely damage U.S. standing throughout the Middle East.” Even more inflammable was an op-ed column by Josh Rogin, a member of the newspaper’s editorial board, under the remarkable headline, “In Syria, we ‘took the oil.’ Now Trump wants to give it to Iran.” Rogin was quoting Trump’s own comment about the real motive for the US war in Iraq, while pointing to US control of Syria’s oil-rich eastern provinces as a key point of leverage against Assad, Putin and Iran. While assailing Trump’s comment at the Ohio rally, Rogin argued that it contradicts Trump’s own commitment to tearing up the nuclear agreement with Iran and otherwise confronting Iran throughout the region, a policy that “must begin in Syria.” Congressional advocates of an all-out conflict with Iran were quick to criticize the suggested pullout from Syria. Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, a leading Republican war hawk, declared in an interview on Fox News Sunday that “It’d be the single worst decision the president could make.” He continued: “If we withdraw our troops anytime soon, ISIS would come back, the war between … Turkey and the Kurds would get out of hand, and you’d be giving Damascus to the Iranians.” WSWS.ORG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Apr 3 11:56:55 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:56:55 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Teachers rebellion spreads as tens of thousands strike in Oklahoma and Kentucky Message-ID: * Print * Leaflet * Feedback * Share » Teachers’ rebellion spreads as tens of thousands strike in Oklahoma and Kentucky 3 April 2018 The teachers’ revolt in the United States entered a new stage on Monday as tens of thousands of teachers, students and working-class supporters took part in massive protests in Oklahoma and Kentucky. The growing wave of unrest among educators requires not only the attention and support of all workers, but their active participation. The strike by 30,000 teachers in Oklahoma follows their rejection of a one-time pay increase of $6,000 and a miserly increase in school funding, financed largely through regressive taxes, passed by the state legislature on Thursday. The thousands of teachers protesting in Kentucky denounced the passage of a bill last week slashing pensions. [http://www.wsws.org/asset/6fa352f5-328e-4591-a50c-71f32340aa0D/image.jpg?rendition=image480]Part of the crowd at the capitol The walkout in Oklahoma, originally announced as a one-day strike, will continue today. School districts throughout the state have announced that they will remain closed, with many reporting that the closures will continue at least through Wednesday. While the unions are doing everything they can to get teachers back to work, there is a powerful sentiment for the extension and expansion of the strike. The developments in Oklahoma and Kentucky are the latest expression of a resurgence of class struggle in the United States and around the world. They follow by less than a month the nine-day strike by teachers in West Virginia and the one-day strike by teachers in Jersey City, New Jersey. On March 28, thousands of teachers rallied in Phoenix, Arizona to demand a 20 percent pay increase and more funding for public schools. The teachers’ strikes also follow the demonstrations of hundreds of thousands of student youth last weekend. Beyond the borders of the United States, there have been strikes and protests in recent weeks by educators in Greece, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, the UK, Canada, Kenya and many other countries. Train drivers in France began a series of walkouts against right-wing labor reforms yesterday, following strikes by metalworkers in Germany and Turkey and uprisings in Iran, Tunisia and Morocco earlier this year. The growth of class conflict is blowing apart the entire framework of official bourgeois politics and its institutions. It shatters the pretenses of right-wing, middle-class identity politics and the claim, relentlessly promoted by the New York Times and other media outlets, that the essential divisions within the United States revolve around race and gender, not class. The workers in Oklahoma, Kentucky, West Virginia and Arizona are all in so-called “red states,” that is, those sections of the country that former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton recently castigated as “backward-looking” because they voted for Trump in the 2016 election. The middle-class organizations that orbit the Democratic Party have repeatedly declared that the workers in these states, the majority of whom are white, are reactionary and racist. The demands advanced by teachers in these states are not defined or limited by geography, race or occupation. It is not surprising that teachers are at the forefront of the developing class battles, since education funding has been devastated by decades of budget cuts. Teachers, moreover, confront every day the consequences of the social crisis in America, from poverty and unemployment to drug addition and homelessness. The assault on teachers and public education is one aspect of a social counterrevolution that has targeted every section of the working class. While a tiny layer of corporate oligarchs has amassed unimaginable levels of wealth, the majority of the population faces low wages, soaring health care costs and the destruction of the social infrastructure. When teachers in Oklahoma speak of having to take on multiple jobs, being unable to pay off thousands of dollars in student loans, and seeing whatever meager pay increases they receive eaten up by rising health care co-pays and deductibles, they give voice to the universal experience of all workers. The developing class struggle has brought workers into direct conflict with the anti-working class, corporatist organizations—the trade unions—that for decades have worked to suppress opposition to job and wage cuts and social inequality. As in West Virginia, the strikes in Oklahoma and Kentucky are being organized by rank-and-file workers in opposition to the unions and the wealthy, upper-middle-class executives who control them. In the aftermath of the West Virginia strike, American Federation of Teachers (AFT) President Randi Weingarten (annual income $500,000) repeated the recent statement of union lawyers before the Supreme Court in the case of Janus vs. AFSCME that “union security is the tradeoff for no strikes.” The weakening of the unions, she warned the ruling class, would “lead to more activism and political action.” Here one has the reality—that the unions exist not to organize the struggle of workers but to suppress it—coming from the horse’s mouth. The bourgeois media was filled Monday with worried commentary about the implications of workers breaking free of the stranglehold of the unions. The New York Times commented that the strikes were “organized by ordinary teachers on Facebook” and had caught the “labor unions flat-footed.” Bloomberg wrote that the strikes “are spreading fast across the country, with no clear endgame in sight,” and that the unions are in a “tough spot” because teachers “have proven they’re not only willing to go ‘wildcat,’ but that they may keep doing so even if the union cuts a deal.” The concern of the ruling class is that the institutions on which they have relied for decades have lost all credibility. Their fears are compounded by the widespread use of the Internet and social media, which has enabled workers to organize and mobilize independently and in defiance of the union bureaucracy. The struggles of workers are bringing them into direct conflict with the Democratic and Republican parties and the entire state apparatus. As the Trump administration wages an all-out assault on the working class, the Democrats, in alliance with the intelligence agencies, center their criticisms of Trump on demands that he carry out a more aggressive war policy in the Middle East and against Russia. The claim that Russia is “sowing divisions” in the United States is being used to justify a regime of Internet censorship aimed at shutting down precisely those mechanisms the workers are employing to organize and coordinate opposition to big business and the government. While the ruling class has been fighting out its internal conflict over foreign policy, an entirely different movement has been building up from below and has now erupted to the surface of American political life. The alarm of the ruling class over the consequences was registered Monday in the sell-off on Wall Street, propelled by fears of inflation—that is, rising wages. The many different forms of social protest are acquiring an ever more distinct working-class identity and anticapitalist orientation. The objective logic of these struggles is in the direction of a general strike, unifying opposition to social inequality, cuts in wages, health care and pensions, police violence, and the myriad forms of social crisis in the United States and internationally. To carry out this fight, workers require new organizations, independent of the pro-capitalist and corporatist syndicates that call themselves unions. It is necessary to form rank-and-file committees not only among teachers, but among all sections of the working class: autoworkers laboring under contracts rammed through by union officials on the company take; Amazon and other service workers working for poverty-level wages; telecommunications workers confronting rising health care costs; student youth facing a future of debt, unemployment and war. All workers have the same interests and the same class enemies. The struggle cannot be limited to the United States. As the Socialist Equality Party anticipated, the development of the class struggle is emerging as an international movement, undermining the poisonous influence of nationalism and inspiring a deeply felt sense of international class solidarity. Workers all over the world are inspired by the events in Oklahoma and Kentucky, as they were by the strike in West Virginia. The establishment of independent organizations of working-class struggle must be connected to the development of a socialist political leadership in the working class. The objective logic of the battles into which workers are entering must be made conscious. In opposition to the ruling class agenda of war, reaction and dictatorship, the working class must advance its own solution to the crisis confronting mankind: a massive redistribution of wealth, the expropriation of the major corporations and banks, and the socialist reorganization of economic life. Joseph Kishore -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Apr 3 13:15:18 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 13:15:18 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Message-ID: Under the pretext of "moving beyond" Chief Illiniwak,Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones is actually giving an official UI Platform to Chief Illiniwak himself, the White Racist Frat Boy who desecrated everything American Indians hold sacred while prancing around at half-times at sporting events and is still promoting Chief Illiniwak and trying to resurrect Illiniwak. And the entire audience is expected to sit there and listen to Chief Illiniwak expound the virtues and values of Illiniwakism. Then everyone is going to break up into small group sessions with facilitators no less where they are supposed to discuss and debate the values and virtues of Illiniwakism. Then they are all supposed to answer questions about Illiniwakism and come up with joint solutions for dealing with Illiniwakism. Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones resurrected Chief Illiniwak at the last homecoming at the start of his Capital Campaign in order to keep the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni happy so that they will give more money so he can fulfill his quota. So this is just more pandering to the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni during the new Capital Campaign so they will give more money, letting the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni know that "I feel your pain," while milking them for all that they are worth. Yo, Illiniwak Jones: How about the next time we bring in the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and give him an Official UI Platform, and then have focus groups and facilitators for his viewpoints, and questions and come up with a strategy for dealing with the Klan. And then we can invite in the current Fuhrer for the American Nazi Party and give him the same Official University of Illiniwaks royal and respectful treatment that we are going to give Chief Illiniwak Himself. And while you are at it Illiniwaks Jones, what are you going to do about our Native American Studies Program that was intended to be partial reparations for Chief Illiniwak but was nevertheless gutted and destroyed when the University of Illiniwaks illegally fired the Palestinian American Professor of American Indian Studies Steven Salaita, threw him, his wife and his baby out into the street with no visible means of support, destroyed his entire Academic career, and effectively terminated our Native American Studies Program? Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Apr 3 13:25:04 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 13:25:04 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Message-ID: From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle cc: University of Illinois Board of Trustees 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 8:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Under the pretext of "moving beyond" Chief Illiniwak,Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones is actually giving an official UI Platform to Chief Illiniwak himself, the White Racist Frat Boy who desecrated everything American Indians hold sacred while prancing around at half-times at sporting events and is still promoting Chief Illiniwak and trying to resurrect Illiniwak. And the entire audience is expected to sit there and listen to Chief Illiniwak expound the virtues and values of Illiniwakism. Then everyone is going to break up into small group sessions with facilitators no less where they are supposed to discuss and debate the values and virtues of Illiniwakism. Then they are all supposed to answer questions about Illiniwakism and come up with joint solutions for dealing with Illiniwakism. Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones resurrected Chief Illiniwak at the last homecoming at the start of his Capital Campaign in order to keep the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni happy so that they will give more money so he can fulfill his quota. So this is just more pandering to the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni during the new Capital Campaign so they will give more money, letting the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni know that "I feel your pain," while milking them for all that they are worth. Yo, Illiniwak Jones: How about the next time we bring in the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and give him an Official UI Platform, and then have focus groups and facilitators for his viewpoints, and questions and come up with a strategy for dealing with the Klan. And then we can invite in the current Fuhrer for the American Nazi Party and give him the same Official University of Illiniwaks royal and respectful treatment that we are going to give Chief Illiniwak Himself. And while you are at it Illiniwaks Jones, what are you going to do about our Native American Studies Program that was intended to be partial reparations for Chief Illiniwak but was nevertheless gutted and destroyed when the University of Illiniwaks illegally fired the Palestinian American Professor of American Indian Studies Steven Salaita, threw him, his wife and his baby out into the street with no visible means of support, destroyed his entire Academic career, and effectively terminated our Native American Studies Program? Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Apr 3 14:33:24 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:33:24 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jones is just a Front Man put in there by the Illliniwaks Board of Trustees to keep Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism alive for the next eleven years with his Stall And Delay Tactics. Fab. The Racist Mascot: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the Jan. 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for their Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his Year 501: The Conquest Continues (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on this campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and a beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews," and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to "Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him.1 Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in that culminates with the band being organized into a Swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews march themselves into a Swastika. By now all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming, and yelling: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out of the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says: "We are honoring the Jews." Whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "Boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. [cid:image003.jpg at 01D3CB2E.CFB55CE0] Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 8:25 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle cc: University of Illinois Board of Trustees 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 8:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Under the pretext of "moving beyond" Chief Illiniwak,Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones is actually giving an official UI Platform to Chief Illiniwak himself, the White Racist Frat Boy who desecrated everything American Indians hold sacred while prancing around at half-times at sporting events and is still promoting Chief Illiniwak and trying to resurrect Illiniwak. And the entire audience is expected to sit there and listen to Chief Illiniwak expound the virtues and values of Illiniwakism. Then everyone is going to break up into small group sessions with facilitators no less where they are supposed to discuss and debate the values and virtues of Illiniwakism. Then they are all supposed to answer questions about Illiniwakism and come up with joint solutions for dealing with Illiniwakism. Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones resurrected Chief Illiniwak at the last homecoming at the start of his Capital Campaign in order to keep the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni happy so that they will give more money so he can fulfill his quota. So this is just more pandering to the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni during the new Capital Campaign so they will give more money, letting the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni know that "I feel your pain," while milking them for all that they are worth. Yo, Illiniwak Jones: How about the next time we bring in the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and give him an Official UI Platform, and then have focus groups and facilitators for his viewpoints, and questions and come up with a strategy for dealing with the Klan. And then we can invite in the current Fuhrer for the American Nazi Party and give him the same Official University of Illiniwaks royal and respectful treatment that we are going to give Chief Illiniwak Himself. And while you are at it Illiniwaks Jones, what are you going to do about our Native American Studies Program that was intended to be partial reparations for Chief Illiniwak but was nevertheless gutted and destroyed when the University of Illiniwaks illegally fired the Palestinian American Professor of American Indian Studies Steven Salaita, threw him, his wife and his baby out into the street with no visible means of support, destroyed his entire Academic career, and effectively terminated our Native American Studies Program? Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ 1 Guess who? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 54442 bytes Desc: image003.jpg URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Apr 3 15:16:01 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 15:16:01 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! References: Message-ID: Indictment of the Federal Government of the U.S. for the commission of international crimes and petition for orders mandating its proscription and dissolution as an international criminal conspiracy and criminal organization By Francis A. Boyle, Professor of International Law 18 September 1992 Introduction All citizens of the World Community have both the right and the duty under public international law to sit in judgment over a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental norms of international criminal law committed by any member state of that same World Community. Such is the case for the International Tribunal of Indigenous Peoples and Oppressed Nationalities in the United States of America that convenes in San Francisco during the weekend of October 1-4, 1992. Its weighty but important task is to examine the long history of international criminal activity that has been perpetrated by the Federal Government of the United States of America against the Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America since it was founded in 1787. Toward that end, I have the honor to present to the Members of this Tribunal the following charges against the Federal Government of the United States of America under international criminal law. In light of the gravity, severity, and longstanding nature of these international crimes and also in light of the fact that the Federal Government of the United States of America appears to be irrevocably committed to continuing down this path of lawlessness and criminality against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America and elsewhere, I hereby petition the Members of this Tribunal to issue an Order proscribing the Federal Government of the United States of America as an International Criminal Conspiracy and a Criminal Organization under the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles as well as the other sources of public international law specified below. For that reason, I also request that the Members of this Tribunal issue an Order dissolving the Federal Government of the United States of America as a legal and political entity. Finally, I ask this Tribunal to declare that international legal sovereignty over the Territories principally inhabited by the Native American Peoples, the New Afrikan People, the Mexicano People, and the People of Puerto Rico resides in the hands of these respective Peoples Themselves. In this regard, I should point out that the final Decision of this Tribunal will qualify as a judicial decision within the meaning of article 38(1)(d) of the Statute of the International Court of Justice and will therefore constitute a subsidiary means for the determination of rules of law for international law and practice. The Statute of the International Court of Justice is an integral part of the United Nations Charter under article 92 thereof. Thus, this Tribunal's Decision can be relied upon by some future International Criminal Court or Tribunal, as well as by any People or State of the World Community that desires to initiate criminal proceedings against named individuals for the commission of the following international crimes. The Decision of this Tribunal shall serve as adequate notice to the appropriate officials in the United States Federal Government that they bear personal criminal responsibility under international law and the domestic legal systems of all Peoples and States in the World Community for designing and implementing these illegal, criminal and reprehensible policies and practices against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America. Hereinafter, the Federal Government of the United States of America will be referred to as the Defendant. BILL OF PARTICULARS AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA The Native American Peoples 1. The Defendant has perpetrated innumerable Crimes Against eace, Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes against Native American Peoples as recognized by the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles. 2. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Genocide against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. 3. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Apartheid against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1973 International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid. 4. The Defendant has perpetrated a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental human rights of Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights. 5. The Defendant has perpetrated numerous and repeated violations of the 1965 International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination against Native American Peoples. 6. The Defendant has systematically violated 371 treaties it concluded with Native American Peoples in wanton disregard of the basic principle of public international law and practice dictating pacta sunt servanda. 7. The Defendant has denied and violated the international legal right of Native American Peoples to self-determination as recognized by the 1945 United Nations Charter, the 1966 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the 1966 International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, fundamental principles of customary international law, and jus cogens. 8. The Defendant has violated the seminal United Nations Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Territories of 1960 with respect to Native American Peoples and Territories. Pursuant thereto, the Defendant has an absolute international legal obligation to decolonize Native American Territories immediately and to transfer all powers it currently exercises there to the Native American Peoples. 9. The Defendant has illegally refused to accord full-scope protections as Prisoners-of-War to captured Native American independence fighters in violation of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and Additional Protocol I thereto of 1977. The Defendant's treatment of captured Native American independence fighters as common criminals and terrorists constitutes a grave breach of the Geneva Accords and thus a serious war crime. 10. The Defendant has deliberately and systematically permitted, aided and abetted, solicited and conspired to commit the dumping, transportation, and location of nuclear, toxic, medical and otherwise hazardous waste materials on Native American Territories across North America and has thus created a clear and present danger to the lives, health, safety, and physical and mental well-being of Native American Peoples in gross violation of article 3 and article 2(c) of the 1948 Genocide Convention, inter alia: Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; .... Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is just a Front Man put in there by the Illliniwaks Board of Trustees to keep Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism alive for the next eleven years with his Stall And Delay Tactics. Fab. The Racist Mascot: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the Jan. 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for their Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his Year 501: The Conquest Continues (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on this campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and a beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews," and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to "Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him.1 Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in that culminates with the band being organized into a Swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews march themselves into a Swastika. By now all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming, and yelling: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out of the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says: "We are honoring the Jews." Whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "Boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. [cid:image002.jpg at 01D3CB34.B78040D0] Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 8:25 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle cc: University of Illinois Board of Trustees 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 8:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Under the pretext of "moving beyond" Chief Illiniwak,Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones is actually giving an official UI Platform to Chief Illiniwak himself, the White Racist Frat Boy who desecrated everything American Indians hold sacred while prancing around at half-times at sporting events and is still promoting Chief Illiniwak and trying to resurrect Illiniwak. And the entire audience is expected to sit there and listen to Chief Illiniwak expound the virtues and values of Illiniwakism. Then everyone is going to break up into small group sessions with facilitators no less where they are supposed to discuss and debate the values and virtues of Illiniwakism. Then they are all supposed to answer questions about Illiniwakism and come up with joint solutions for dealing with Illiniwakism. Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones resurrected Chief Illiniwak at the last homecoming at the start of his Capital Campaign in order to keep the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni happy so that they will give more money so he can fulfill his quota. So this is just more pandering to the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni during the new Capital Campaign so they will give more money, letting the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni know that "I feel your pain," while milking them for all that they are worth. Yo, Illiniwak Jones: How about the next time we bring in the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and give him an Official UI Platform, and then have focus groups and facilitators for his viewpoints, and questions and come up with a strategy for dealing with the Klan. And then we can invite in the current Fuhrer for the American Nazi Party and give him the same Official University of Illiniwaks royal and respectful treatment that we are going to give Chief Illiniwak Himself. And while you are at it Illiniwaks Jones, what are you going to do about our Native American Studies Program that was intended to be partial reparations for Chief Illiniwak but was nevertheless gutted and destroyed when the University of Illiniwaks illegally fired the Palestinian American Professor of American Indian Studies Steven Salaita, threw him, his wife and his baby out into the street with no visible means of support, destroyed his entire Academic career, and effectively terminated our Native American Studies Program? Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ ________________________________ 1 Guess who? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Apr 3 16:20:45 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 16:20:45 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: THE ISOLATION OF JULIAN ASSANGE IS THE SILENCING OF US ALL References: <81e01f026144a7a39810a239b.6beeae6966.20180403134256.62bfa1ed63.ea97fe4a@mail234.wdc02.mcdlv.net> Message-ID: [https://gallery.mailchimp.com/81e01f026144a7a39810a239b/images/b7da0a81-2085-4939-b6f7-38ab7d862a5f.png] THE ISOLATION OF JULIAN ASSANGE IS THE SILENCING OF US ALL [https://gallery.mailchimp.com/81e01f026144a7a39810a239b/images/0125ca56-d15b-4375-9781-0158cfb7d9f4.jpg] John Pilger writes: In this letter, twenty-seven writers, journalists, film-makers, artists, academics, former intelligence officers and democrats call on the government of Ecuador to allow Julian Assange his right of freedom of speech. If it was ever clear that the case of Julian Assange was never just a legal case, but a struggle for the protection of basic human rights, it is now. Citing his critical tweets about the recent detention of Catalan president Carles Puidgemont in Germany, and following pressure from the US, Spanish and UK governments, the Ecuadorian government has installed an electronic jammer to stop Assange communicating with the outside world via the internet and phone. As if ensuring his total isolation, the Ecuadorian government is also refusing to allow him to receive visitors. Despite two UN rulings describing his detention as unlawful and mandating his immediate release, Assange has been effectively imprisoned since he was first placed in isolation in Wandsworth prison in London in December 2010. He has never been charged with a crime. The Swedish case against him collapsed and was withdrawn, while the United States has stepped up efforts to prosecute him. His only "crime" is that of a true journalist -- telling the world the truths that people have a right to know. Under its previous president, the Ecuadorian government bravely stood against the bullying might of the United States and granted Assange political asylum as a political refugee. International law and the morality of human rights was on its side. Today, under extreme pressure from Washington and its collaborators, another government in Ecuador justifies its gagging of Assange by stating that "Assange's behaviour, through his messages on social media, put at risk good relations which this country has with the UK, the rest of the EU and other nations." This censorious attack on free speech is not happening in Turkey, Saudi Arabia or China; it is right in the heart of London. If the Ecuadorian government does not cease its unworthy action, it, too, will become an agent of persecution rather than the valiant nation that stood up for freedom and for free speech. If the EU and the UK continue to participate in the scandalous silencing of a true dissident in their midst, it will mean that free speech is indeed dying in Europe. This is not just a matter of showing support and solidarity. We are appealing to all who care about basic human rights to call on the government of Ecuador to continue defending the rights of a courageous free speech activist, journalist and whistleblower. We ask that his basic human rights be respected as an Ecuadorian citizen and internationally protected person and that he not be silenced or expelled. If there is no freedom of speech for Julian Assange, there is no freedom of speech for any of us -- regardless of the disparate opinions we hold. We call on President Moreno to end the isolation of Julian Assange now. List of signatories (in alphabetic order): Pamela Anderson, actress and activist Jacob Appelbaum, freelance journalist Renata Avila, International Human Rights Lawyer Sally Burch, British/Ecuadorian journalist Alicia Castro, Argentina's ambassador to the United Kingdom 2012-16 Naomi Colvin, Courage Foundation Noam Chomsky, linguist and political theorist Brian Eno, musician Joseph Farrell, WikiLeaks Ambassador and board member of The Centre for Investigative Journalism Teresa Forcades, Benedictine nun, Montserrat Monastery Charles Glass, American-British author, journalist, broadcaster Chris Hedges, journalist Srecko Horvat, philosopher, Democracy in Europe Movement (DiEM25) Jean Michel Jarre, musician John Kiriakou, former CIA counterterrorism officer and former senior investigator, U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations Lauri Love, computer scientist and activist Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst, Presidential advisor John Pilger, journalist and film-maker Angela Richter, theater director, Germany Saskia Sassen, sociologist, Columbia University Oliver Stone, film-maker Vaughan Smith, English journalist Yanis Varoufakis, economist, former Greek finance minister Natalia Viana, investigative journalist and co-director of Agencia publica, Brazil Ai Weiwei, artist Vivienne Westwood, fashion designer and activist Slavoj Žižek, philosopher, Birkbeck Institute for Humanities 1 April 2018 [https://cdn-images.mailchimp.com/icons/social-block-v2/outline-dark-facebook-48.png] Share [https://cdn-images.mailchimp.com/icons/social-block-v2/outline-dark-twitter-48.png] Tweet [https://cdn-images.mailchimp.com/icons/social-block-v2/outline-dark-forwardtofriend-48.png] Forward This email was sent to karenaram at hotmail.com why did I get this? unsubscribe from this list update subscription preferences Dartmouth Films · Somerset House · Strand · London, WC2R 1LA · United Kingdom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Citing his critical tweets about the recent detention of Catalan president Carles Puidgemont in Germany, and following pressure from the US, Spanish and UK governments, the Ecuadorian government has installed an electronic jammer to stop Assange communicating with the outside world via the internet and phone. As if ensuring his total isolation, the Ecuadorian government is also refusing to allow him to receive visitors. Despite two UN rulings describing his detention as unlawful and mandating his immediate release, Assange has been effectively imprisoned since he was first placed in isolation in Wandsworth prison in London in December 2010. He has never been charged with a crime. The Swedish case against him collapsed and was withdrawn, while the United States has stepped up efforts to prosecute him. His only "crime" is that of a true journalist -- telling the world the truths that people have a right to know. Under its previous president, the Ecuadorian government bravely stood against the bullying might of the United States and granted Assange political asylum as a political refugee. International law and the morality of human rights was on its side. Today, under extreme pressure from Washington and its collaborators, another government in Ecuador justifies its gagging of Assange by stating that "Assange's behaviour, through his messages on social media, put at risk good relations which this country has with the UK, the rest of the EU and other nations." This censorious attack on free speech is not happening in Turkey, Saudi Arabia or China; it is right in the heart of London. If the Ecuadorian government does not cease its unworthy action, it, too, will become an agent of persecution rather than the valiant nation that stood up for freedom and for free speech. If the EU and the UK continue to participate in the scandalous silencing of a true dissident in their midst, it will mean that free speech is indeed dying in Europe. This is not just a matter of showing support and solidarity. We are appealing to all who care about basic human rights to call on the government of Ecuador to continue defending the rights of a courageous free speech activist, journalist and whistleblower. We ask that his basic human rights be respected as an Ecuadorian citizen and internationally protected person and that he not be silenced or expelled. If there is no freedom of speech for Julian Assange, there is no freedom of speech for any of us -- regardless of the disparate opinions we hold. We call on President Moreno to end the isolation of Julian Assange now. List of signatories (in alphabetic order): Pamela Anderson, actress and activist Jacob Appelbaum, freelance journalist Renata Avila, International Human Rights Lawyer Sally Burch, British/Ecuadorian journalist Alicia Castro, Argentina's ambassador to the United Kingdom 2012-16 Naomi Colvin, Courage Foundation Noam Chomsky, linguist and political theorist Brian Eno, musician Joseph Farrell, WikiLeaks Ambassador and board member of The Centre for Investigative Journalism Teresa Forcades, Benedictine nun, Montserrat Monastery Charles Glass, American-British author, journalist, broadcaster Chris Hedges, journalist Srecko Horvat, philosopher, Democracy in Europe Movement (DiEM25) Jean Michel Jarre, musician John Kiriakou, former CIA counterterrorism officer and former senior investigator, U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations Lauri Love, computer scientist and activist Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst, Presidential advisor John Pilger, journalist and film-maker Angela Richter, theater director, Germany Saskia Sassen, sociologist, Columbia University Oliver Stone, film-maker Vaughan Smith, English journalist Yanis Varoufakis, economist, former Greek finance minister Natalia Viana, investigative journalist and co-director of Agencia publica, Brazil Ai Weiwei, artist Vivienne Westwood, fashion designer and activist Slavoj Žižek, philosopher, Birkbeck Institute for Humanities 1 April 2018 [https://cdn-images.mailchimp.com/icons/social-block-v2/outline-dark-facebook-48.png] Share [https://cdn-images.mailchimp.com/icons/social-block-v2/outline-dark-twitter-48.png] Tweet [https://cdn-images.mailchimp.com/icons/social-block-v2/outline-dark-forwardtofriend-48.png] Forward This email was sent to karenaram at hotmail.com why did I get this? unsubscribe from this list update subscription preferences Dartmouth Films · Somerset House · Strand · London, WC2R 1LA · United Kingdom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Apr 3 17:08:34 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 17:08:34 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! References: Message-ID: I still remember when Illiniwaks Chancellor Mort Weir called an emergency press conference to publicly proclaim that Chief Illiniwak is here to stay. Ceteris paribus for Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones. Plus ca change at the University of Illiniwaks. They who pay the piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Indictment of the Federal Government of the U.S. for the commission of international crimes and petition for orders mandating its proscription and dissolution as an international criminal conspiracy and criminal organization By Francis A. Boyle, Professor of International Law 18 September 1992 Introduction All citizens of the World Community have both the right and the duty under public international law to sit in judgment over a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental norms of international criminal law committed by any member state of that same World Community. Such is the case for the International Tribunal of Indigenous Peoples and Oppressed Nationalities in the United States of America that convenes in San Francisco during the weekend of October 1-4, 1992. Its weighty but important task is to examine the long history of international criminal activity that has been perpetrated by the Federal Government of the United States of America against the Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America since it was founded in 1787. Toward that end, I have the honor to present to the Members of this Tribunal the following charges against the Federal Government of the United States of America under international criminal law. In light of the gravity, severity, and longstanding nature of these international crimes and also in light of the fact that the Federal Government of the United States of America appears to be irrevocably committed to continuing down this path of lawlessness and criminality against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America and elsewhere, I hereby petition the Members of this Tribunal to issue an Order proscribing the Federal Government of the United States of America as an International Criminal Conspiracy and a Criminal Organization under the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles as well as the other sources of public international law specified below. For that reason, I also request that the Members of this Tribunal issue an Order dissolving the Federal Government of the United States of America as a legal and political entity. Finally, I ask this Tribunal to declare that international legal sovereignty over the Territories principally inhabited by the Native American Peoples, the New Afrikan People, the Mexicano People, and the People of Puerto Rico resides in the hands of these respective Peoples Themselves. In this regard, I should point out that the final Decision of this Tribunal will qualify as a judicial decision within the meaning of article 38(1)(d) of the Statute of the International Court of Justice and will therefore constitute a subsidiary means for the determination of rules of law for international law and practice. The Statute of the International Court of Justice is an integral part of the United Nations Charter under article 92 thereof. Thus, this Tribunal's Decision can be relied upon by some future International Criminal Court or Tribunal, as well as by any People or State of the World Community that desires to initiate criminal proceedings against named individuals for the commission of the following international crimes. The Decision of this Tribunal shall serve as adequate notice to the appropriate officials in the United States Federal Government that they bear personal criminal responsibility under international law and the domestic legal systems of all Peoples and States in the World Community for designing and implementing these illegal, criminal and reprehensible policies and practices against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America. Hereinafter, the Federal Government of the United States of America will be referred to as the Defendant. BILL OF PARTICULARS AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA The Native American Peoples 1. The Defendant has perpetrated innumerable Crimes Against eace, Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes against Native American Peoples as recognized by the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles. 2. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Genocide against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. 3. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Apartheid against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1973 International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid. 4. The Defendant has perpetrated a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental human rights of Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights. 5. The Defendant has perpetrated numerous and repeated violations of the 1965 International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination against Native American Peoples. 6. The Defendant has systematically violated 371 treaties it concluded with Native American Peoples in wanton disregard of the basic principle of public international law and practice dictating pacta sunt servanda. 7. The Defendant has denied and violated the international legal right of Native American Peoples to self-determination as recognized by the 1945 United Nations Charter, the 1966 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the 1966 International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, fundamental principles of customary international law, and jus cogens. 8. The Defendant has violated the seminal United Nations Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Territories of 1960 with respect to Native American Peoples and Territories. Pursuant thereto, the Defendant has an absolute international legal obligation to decolonize Native American Territories immediately and to transfer all powers it currently exercises there to the Native American Peoples. 9. The Defendant has illegally refused to accord full-scope protections as Prisoners-of-War to captured Native American independence fighters in violation of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and Additional Protocol I thereto of 1977. The Defendant's treatment of captured Native American independence fighters as common criminals and terrorists constitutes a grave breach of the Geneva Accords and thus a serious war crime. 10. The Defendant has deliberately and systematically permitted, aided and abetted, solicited and conspired to commit the dumping, transportation, and location of nuclear, toxic, medical and otherwise hazardous waste materials on Native American Territories across North America and has thus created a clear and present danger to the lives, health, safety, and physical and mental well-being of Native American Peoples in gross violation of article 3 and article 2(c) of the 1948 Genocide Convention, inter alia: Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; .... Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is just a Front Man put in there by the Illliniwaks Board of Trustees to keep Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism alive for the next eleven years with his Stall And Delay Tactics. Fab. The Racist Mascot: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the Jan. 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for their Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his Year 501: The Conquest Continues (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on this campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and a beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews," and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to "Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him.1 Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in that culminates with the band being organized into a Swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews march themselves into a Swastika. By now all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming, and yelling: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out of the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says: "We are honoring the Jews." Whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "Boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. [cid:image002.jpg at 01D3CB44.78F4CC40] Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 8:25 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle cc: University of Illinois Board of Trustees 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 8:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Under the pretext of "moving beyond" Chief Illiniwak,Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones is actually giving an official UI Platform to Chief Illiniwak himself, the White Racist Frat Boy who desecrated everything American Indians hold sacred while prancing around at half-times at sporting events and is still promoting Chief Illiniwak and trying to resurrect Illiniwak. And the entire audience is expected to sit there and listen to Chief Illiniwak expound the virtues and values of Illiniwakism. Then everyone is going to break up into small group sessions with facilitators no less where they are supposed to discuss and debate the values and virtues of Illiniwakism. Then they are all supposed to answer questions about Illiniwakism and come up with joint solutions for dealing with Illiniwakism. Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones resurrected Chief Illiniwak at the last homecoming at the start of his Capital Campaign in order to keep the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni happy so that they will give more money so he can fulfill his quota. So this is just more pandering to the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni during the new Capital Campaign so they will give more money, letting the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni know that "I feel your pain," while milking them for all that they are worth. Yo, Illiniwak Jones: How about the next time we bring in the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and give him an Official UI Platform, and then have focus groups and facilitators for his viewpoints, and questions and come up with a strategy for dealing with the Klan. And then we can invite in the current Fuhrer for the American Nazi Party and give him the same Official University of Illiniwaks royal and respectful treatment that we are going to give Chief Illiniwak Himself. And while you are at it Illiniwaks Jones, what are you going to do about our Native American Studies Program that was intended to be partial reparations for Chief Illiniwak but was nevertheless gutted and destroyed when the University of Illiniwaks illegally fired the Palestinian American Professor of American Indian Studies Steven Salaita, threw him, his wife and his baby out into the street with no visible means of support, destroyed his entire Academic career, and effectively terminated our Native American Studies Program? Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ 1 Guess who? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 54450 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Apr 3 18:03:25 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:03:25 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! References: Message-ID: Jones is no idiot. He knew full well when he took this job from the Illiniwaks Board of Trustees that he would have to STALL AND DELAY getting rid of Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism for as long as he was Chancellor-look how the Illiniwaks Board of Trustees forced out Nancy Cantor. They who pay this piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 12:09 PM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! I still remember when Illiniwaks Chancellor Mort Weir called an emergency press conference to publicly proclaim that Chief Illiniwak is here to stay. Ceteris paribus for Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones. Plus ca change at the University of Illiniwaks. They who pay the piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Indictment of the Federal Government of the U.S. for the commission of international crimes and petition for orders mandating its proscription and dissolution as an international criminal conspiracy and criminal organization By Francis A. Boyle, Professor of International Law 18 September 1992 Introduction All citizens of the World Community have both the right and the duty under public international law to sit in judgment over a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental norms of international criminal law committed by any member state of that same World Community. Such is the case for the International Tribunal of Indigenous Peoples and Oppressed Nationalities in the United States of America that convenes in San Francisco during the weekend of October 1-4, 1992. Its weighty but important task is to examine the long history of international criminal activity that has been perpetrated by the Federal Government of the United States of America against the Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America since it was founded in 1787. Toward that end, I have the honor to present to the Members of this Tribunal the following charges against the Federal Government of the United States of America under international criminal law. In light of the gravity, severity, and longstanding nature of these international crimes and also in light of the fact that the Federal Government of the United States of America appears to be irrevocably committed to continuing down this path of lawlessness and criminality against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America and elsewhere, I hereby petition the Members of this Tribunal to issue an Order proscribing the Federal Government of the United States of America as an International Criminal Conspiracy and a Criminal Organization under the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles as well as the other sources of public international law specified below. For that reason, I also request that the Members of this Tribunal issue an Order dissolving the Federal Government of the United States of America as a legal and political entity. Finally, I ask this Tribunal to declare that international legal sovereignty over the Territories principally inhabited by the Native American Peoples, the New Afrikan People, the Mexicano People, and the People of Puerto Rico resides in the hands of these respective Peoples Themselves. In this regard, I should point out that the final Decision of this Tribunal will qualify as a judicial decision within the meaning of article 38(1)(d) of the Statute of the International Court of Justice and will therefore constitute a subsidiary means for the determination of rules of law for international law and practice. The Statute of the International Court of Justice is an integral part of the United Nations Charter under article 92 thereof. Thus, this Tribunal's Decision can be relied upon by some future International Criminal Court or Tribunal, as well as by any People or State of the World Community that desires to initiate criminal proceedings against named individuals for the commission of the following international crimes. The Decision of this Tribunal shall serve as adequate notice to the appropriate officials in the United States Federal Government that they bear personal criminal responsibility under international law and the domestic legal systems of all Peoples and States in the World Community for designing and implementing these illegal, criminal and reprehensible policies and practices against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America. Hereinafter, the Federal Government of the United States of America will be referred to as the Defendant. BILL OF PARTICULARS AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA The Native American Peoples 1. The Defendant has perpetrated innumerable Crimes Against eace, Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes against Native American Peoples as recognized by the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles. 2. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Genocide against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. 3. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Apartheid against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1973 International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid. 4. The Defendant has perpetrated a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental human rights of Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights. 5. The Defendant has perpetrated numerous and repeated violations of the 1965 International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination against Native American Peoples. 6. The Defendant has systematically violated 371 treaties it concluded with Native American Peoples in wanton disregard of the basic principle of public international law and practice dictating pacta sunt servanda. 7. The Defendant has denied and violated the international legal right of Native American Peoples to self-determination as recognized by the 1945 United Nations Charter, the 1966 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the 1966 International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, fundamental principles of customary international law, and jus cogens. 8. The Defendant has violated the seminal United Nations Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Territories of 1960 with respect to Native American Peoples and Territories. Pursuant thereto, the Defendant has an absolute international legal obligation to decolonize Native American Territories immediately and to transfer all powers it currently exercises there to the Native American Peoples. 9. The Defendant has illegally refused to accord full-scope protections as Prisoners-of-War to captured Native American independence fighters in violation of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and Additional Protocol I thereto of 1977. The Defendant's treatment of captured Native American independence fighters as common criminals and terrorists constitutes a grave breach of the Geneva Accords and thus a serious war crime. 10. The Defendant has deliberately and systematically permitted, aided and abetted, solicited and conspired to commit the dumping, transportation, and location of nuclear, toxic, medical and otherwise hazardous waste materials on Native American Territories across North America and has thus created a clear and present danger to the lives, health, safety, and physical and mental well-being of Native American Peoples in gross violation of article 3 and article 2(c) of the 1948 Genocide Convention, inter alia: Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; .... Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is just a Front Man put in there by the Illliniwaks Board of Trustees to keep Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism alive for the next eleven years with his Stall And Delay Tactics. Fab. The Racist Mascot: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the Jan. 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for their Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his Year 501: The Conquest Continues (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on this campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and a beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews," and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to "Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him.1 Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in that culminates with the band being organized into a Swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews march themselves into a Swastika. By now all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming, and yelling: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out of the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says: "We are honoring the Jews." Whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "Boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. [cid:image002.jpg at 01D3CB4C.1F78A670] Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 8:25 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle cc: University of Illinois Board of Trustees 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 8:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Under the pretext of "moving beyond" Chief Illiniwak,Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones is actually giving an official UI Platform to Chief Illiniwak himself, the White Racist Frat Boy who desecrated everything American Indians hold sacred while prancing around at half-times at sporting events and is still promoting Chief Illiniwak and trying to resurrect Illiniwak. And the entire audience is expected to sit there and listen to Chief Illiniwak expound the virtues and values of Illiniwakism. Then everyone is going to break up into small group sessions with facilitators no less where they are supposed to discuss and debate the values and virtues of Illiniwakism. Then they are all supposed to answer questions about Illiniwakism and come up with joint solutions for dealing with Illiniwakism. Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones resurrected Chief Illiniwak at the last homecoming at the start of his Capital Campaign in order to keep the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni happy so that they will give more money so he can fulfill his quota. So this is just more pandering to the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni during the new Capital Campaign so they will give more money, letting the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni know that "I feel your pain," while milking them for all that they are worth. Yo, Illiniwak Jones: How about the next time we bring in the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and give him an Official UI Platform, and then have focus groups and facilitators for his viewpoints, and questions and come up with a strategy for dealing with the Klan. And then we can invite in the current Fuhrer for the American Nazi Party and give him the same Official University of Illiniwaks royal and respectful treatment that we are going to give Chief Illiniwak Himself. And while you are at it Illiniwaks Jones, what are you going to do about our Native American Studies Program that was intended to be partial reparations for Chief Illiniwak but was nevertheless gutted and destroyed when the University of Illiniwaks illegally fired the Palestinian American Professor of American Indian Studies Steven Salaita, threw him, his wife and his baby out into the street with no visible means of support, destroyed his entire Academic career, and effectively terminated our Native American Studies Program? Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ 1 Guess who? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 54416 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Apr 3 23:28:18 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 23:28:18 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Harry Targ on the passing of peace advocate, former C-U resident Clint Fink In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah, the CIAd Fascists in the Political Science Department here basically drove Berenice elsewhere precisely because she did Peace Studies and Feminist Studies and tried to unite them. Fab. Since the 1980s Fink (and his partner Berenice Carroll) continued to do research focused on peace theory and peace action drawing connections between movements for peace and movements for justice (including justice for women, people of color, and workers). They both became chairs of COPRED (the Consortium on Peace Research, Education and Development--currently the Peace and Justice Studies Association) and were active participants in the International Peace Research Association. For a time they edited Peace and Change. In their most recent, and perhaps most significant scholarly work (2007), they edited and wrote an introduction to Jane Addams’ classic essay, Newer Ideals of Peace. In the extensive introduction Carroll and Fink link Addams’ theoretical and practical work to the core concepts of modern peace studies, addressing both direct and structural violence. They point out that Addams is a significant precursor to modern peace studies in that she theorizes and advocates for linking peace to social justice and scholarship to action. In a sense Fink’s earlier historical explorations were applied to this renewed recognition of Addams’ work as a guide for use in the twenty-first century. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace On Behalf Of Robert Naiman via Peace Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 4:37 PM To: peace Subject: [Peace] Harry Targ on the passing of peace advocate, former C-U resident Clint Fink I just learned of the recent passing of longtime peace advocate and former C-U resident Clint Fink. Here's a remembrance from Harry Targ. CLINT FINK AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF PEACE STUDIES: RESEARCH, EDUCATION, AND ACTIVISM https://heartlandradical.blogspot.com/2018/03/clint-fink-and-development-of-peace.html === Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 4 12:22:37 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 12:22:37 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So notice that during the past academic year alone, Jones has now resurrected Chief Illiniwak twice. First during the Fall Homecoming Parade in order to coincide with and support the Launch of his new Capital Campaign, and now this latest atrocity towards the same End. To paraphrase some advice Machiavelli once gave to his Prince: One who wants to deceive will always find those willing to be deceived. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:03 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is no idiot. He knew full well when he took this job from the Illiniwaks Board of Trustees that he would have to STALL AND DELAY getting rid of Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism for as long as he was Chancellor-look how the Illiniwaks Board of Trustees forced out Nancy Cantor. They who pay this piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 12:09 PM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! I still remember when Illiniwaks Chancellor Mort Weir called an emergency press conference to publicly proclaim that Chief Illiniwak is here to stay. Ceteris paribus for Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones. Plus ca change at the University of Illiniwaks. They who pay the piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Indictment of the Federal Government of the U.S. for the commission of international crimes and petition for orders mandating its proscription and dissolution as an international criminal conspiracy and criminal organization By Francis A. Boyle, Professor of International Law 18 September 1992 Introduction All citizens of the World Community have both the right and the duty under public international law to sit in judgment over a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental norms of international criminal law committed by any member state of that same World Community. Such is the case for the International Tribunal of Indigenous Peoples and Oppressed Nationalities in the United States of America that convenes in San Francisco during the weekend of October 1-4, 1992. Its weighty but important task is to examine the long history of international criminal activity that has been perpetrated by the Federal Government of the United States of America against the Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America since it was founded in 1787. Toward that end, I have the honor to present to the Members of this Tribunal the following charges against the Federal Government of the United States of America under international criminal law. In light of the gravity, severity, and longstanding nature of these international crimes and also in light of the fact that the Federal Government of the United States of America appears to be irrevocably committed to continuing down this path of lawlessness and criminality against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America and elsewhere, I hereby petition the Members of this Tribunal to issue an Order proscribing the Federal Government of the United States of America as an International Criminal Conspiracy and a Criminal Organization under the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles as well as the other sources of public international law specified below. For that reason, I also request that the Members of this Tribunal issue an Order dissolving the Federal Government of the United States of America as a legal and political entity. Finally, I ask this Tribunal to declare that international legal sovereignty over the Territories principally inhabited by the Native American Peoples, the New Afrikan People, the Mexicano People, and the People of Puerto Rico resides in the hands of these respective Peoples Themselves. In this regard, I should point out that the final Decision of this Tribunal will qualify as a judicial decision within the meaning of article 38(1)(d) of the Statute of the International Court of Justice and will therefore constitute a subsidiary means for the determination of rules of law for international law and practice. The Statute of the International Court of Justice is an integral part of the United Nations Charter under article 92 thereof. Thus, this Tribunal's Decision can be relied upon by some future International Criminal Court or Tribunal, as well as by any People or State of the World Community that desires to initiate criminal proceedings against named individuals for the commission of the following international crimes. The Decision of this Tribunal shall serve as adequate notice to the appropriate officials in the United States Federal Government that they bear personal criminal responsibility under international law and the domestic legal systems of all Peoples and States in the World Community for designing and implementing these illegal, criminal and reprehensible policies and practices against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America. Hereinafter, the Federal Government of the United States of America will be referred to as the Defendant. BILL OF PARTICULARS AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA The Native American Peoples 1. The Defendant has perpetrated innumerable Crimes Against eace, Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes against Native American Peoples as recognized by the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles. 2. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Genocide against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. 3. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Apartheid against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1973 International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid. 4. The Defendant has perpetrated a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental human rights of Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights. 5. The Defendant has perpetrated numerous and repeated violations of the 1965 International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination against Native American Peoples. 6. The Defendant has systematically violated 371 treaties it concluded with Native American Peoples in wanton disregard of the basic principle of public international law and practice dictating pacta sunt servanda. 7. The Defendant has denied and violated the international legal right of Native American Peoples to self-determination as recognized by the 1945 United Nations Charter, the 1966 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the 1966 International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, fundamental principles of customary international law, and jus cogens. 8. The Defendant has violated the seminal United Nations Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Territories of 1960 with respect to Native American Peoples and Territories. Pursuant thereto, the Defendant has an absolute international legal obligation to decolonize Native American Territories immediately and to transfer all powers it currently exercises there to the Native American Peoples. 9. The Defendant has illegally refused to accord full-scope protections as Prisoners-of-War to captured Native American independence fighters in violation of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and Additional Protocol I thereto of 1977. The Defendant's treatment of captured Native American independence fighters as common criminals and terrorists constitutes a grave breach of the Geneva Accords and thus a serious war crime. 10. The Defendant has deliberately and systematically permitted, aided and abetted, solicited and conspired to commit the dumping, transportation, and location of nuclear, toxic, medical and otherwise hazardous waste materials on Native American Territories across North America and has thus created a clear and present danger to the lives, health, safety, and physical and mental well-being of Native American Peoples in gross violation of article 3 and article 2(c) of the 1948 Genocide Convention, inter alia: Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; .... Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is just a Front Man put in there by the Illliniwaks Board of Trustees to keep Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism alive for the next eleven years with his Stall And Delay Tactics. Fab. The Racist Mascot: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the Jan. 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for their Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his Year 501: The Conquest Continues (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on this campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and a beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews," and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to "Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him.1 Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in that culminates with the band being organized into a Swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews march themselves into a Swastika. By now all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming, and yelling: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out of the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says: "We are honoring the Jews." Whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "Boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. [cid:image002.jpg at 01D3CBE5.B268FA90] Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 8:25 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle cc: University of Illinois Board of Trustees 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 8:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Under the pretext of "moving beyond" Chief Illiniwak,Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones is actually giving an official UI Platform to Chief Illiniwak himself, the White Racist Frat Boy who desecrated everything American Indians hold sacred while prancing around at half-times at sporting events and is still promoting Chief Illiniwak and trying to resurrect Illiniwak. And the entire audience is expected to sit there and listen to Chief Illiniwak expound the virtues and values of Illiniwakism. Then everyone is going to break up into small group sessions with facilitators no less where they are supposed to discuss and debate the values and virtues of Illiniwakism. Then they are all supposed to answer questions about Illiniwakism and come up with joint solutions for dealing with Illiniwakism. Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones resurrected Chief Illiniwak at the last homecoming at the start of his Capital Campaign in order to keep the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni happy so that they will give more money so he can fulfill his quota. So this is just more pandering to the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni during the new Capital Campaign so they will give more money, letting the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni know that "I feel your pain," while milking them for all that they are worth. Yo, Illiniwak Jones: How about the next time we bring in the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and give him an Official UI Platform, and then have focus groups and facilitators for his viewpoints, and questions and come up with a strategy for dealing with the Klan. And then we can invite in the current Fuhrer for the American Nazi Party and give him the same Official University of Illiniwaks royal and respectful treatment that we are going to give Chief Illiniwak Himself. And while you are at it Illiniwaks Jones, what are you going to do about our Native American Studies Program that was intended to be partial reparations for Chief Illiniwak but was nevertheless gutted and destroyed when the University of Illiniwaks illegally fired the Palestinian American Professor of American Indian Studies Steven Salaita, threw him, his wife and his baby out into the street with no visible means of support, destroyed his entire Academic career, and effectively terminated our Native American Studies Program? Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ 1 Guess who? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:23 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! So notice that during the past academic year alone, Jones has now resurrected Chief Illiniwak twice. First during the Fall Homecoming Parade in order to coincide with and support the Launch of his new Capital Campaign, and now this latest atrocity towards the same End. To paraphrase some advice Machiavelli once gave to his Prince: One who wants to deceive will always find those willing to be deceived. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:03 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is no idiot. He knew full well when he took this job from the Illiniwaks Board of Trustees that he would have to STALL AND DELAY getting rid of Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism for as long as he was Chancellor-look how the Illiniwaks Board of Trustees forced out Nancy Cantor. They who pay this piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 12:09 PM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! I still remember when Illiniwaks Chancellor Mort Weir called an emergency press conference to publicly proclaim that Chief Illiniwak is here to stay. Ceteris paribus for Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones. Plus ca change at the University of Illiniwaks. They who pay the piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Indictment of the Federal Government of the U.S. for the commission of international crimes and petition for orders mandating its proscription and dissolution as an international criminal conspiracy and criminal organization By Francis A. Boyle, Professor of International Law 18 September 1992 Introduction All citizens of the World Community have both the right and the duty under public international law to sit in judgment over a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental norms of international criminal law committed by any member state of that same World Community. Such is the case for the International Tribunal of Indigenous Peoples and Oppressed Nationalities in the United States of America that convenes in San Francisco during the weekend of October 1-4, 1992. Its weighty but important task is to examine the long history of international criminal activity that has been perpetrated by the Federal Government of the United States of America against the Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America since it was founded in 1787. Toward that end, I have the honor to present to the Members of this Tribunal the following charges against the Federal Government of the United States of America under international criminal law. In light of the gravity, severity, and longstanding nature of these international crimes and also in light of the fact that the Federal Government of the United States of America appears to be irrevocably committed to continuing down this path of lawlessness and criminality against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America and elsewhere, I hereby petition the Members of this Tribunal to issue an Order proscribing the Federal Government of the United States of America as an International Criminal Conspiracy and a Criminal Organization under the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles as well as the other sources of public international law specified below. For that reason, I also request that the Members of this Tribunal issue an Order dissolving the Federal Government of the United States of America as a legal and political entity. Finally, I ask this Tribunal to declare that international legal sovereignty over the Territories principally inhabited by the Native American Peoples, the New Afrikan People, the Mexicano People, and the People of Puerto Rico resides in the hands of these respective Peoples Themselves. In this regard, I should point out that the final Decision of this Tribunal will qualify as a judicial decision within the meaning of article 38(1)(d) of the Statute of the International Court of Justice and will therefore constitute a subsidiary means for the determination of rules of law for international law and practice. The Statute of the International Court of Justice is an integral part of the United Nations Charter under article 92 thereof. Thus, this Tribunal's Decision can be relied upon by some future International Criminal Court or Tribunal, as well as by any People or State of the World Community that desires to initiate criminal proceedings against named individuals for the commission of the following international crimes. The Decision of this Tribunal shall serve as adequate notice to the appropriate officials in the United States Federal Government that they bear personal criminal responsibility under international law and the domestic legal systems of all Peoples and States in the World Community for designing and implementing these illegal, criminal and reprehensible policies and practices against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America. Hereinafter, the Federal Government of the United States of America will be referred to as the Defendant. BILL OF PARTICULARS AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA The Native American Peoples 1. The Defendant has perpetrated innumerable Crimes Against eace, Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes against Native American Peoples as recognized by the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles. 2. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Genocide against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. 3. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Apartheid against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1973 International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid. 4. The Defendant has perpetrated a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental human rights of Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights. 5. The Defendant has perpetrated numerous and repeated violations of the 1965 International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination against Native American Peoples. 6. The Defendant has systematically violated 371 treaties it concluded with Native American Peoples in wanton disregard of the basic principle of public international law and practice dictating pacta sunt servanda. 7. The Defendant has denied and violated the international legal right of Native American Peoples to self-determination as recognized by the 1945 United Nations Charter, the 1966 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the 1966 International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, fundamental principles of customary international law, and jus cogens. 8. The Defendant has violated the seminal United Nations Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Territories of 1960 with respect to Native American Peoples and Territories. Pursuant thereto, the Defendant has an absolute international legal obligation to decolonize Native American Territories immediately and to transfer all powers it currently exercises there to the Native American Peoples. 9. The Defendant has illegally refused to accord full-scope protections as Prisoners-of-War to captured Native American independence fighters in violation of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and Additional Protocol I thereto of 1977. The Defendant's treatment of captured Native American independence fighters as common criminals and terrorists constitutes a grave breach of the Geneva Accords and thus a serious war crime. 10. The Defendant has deliberately and systematically permitted, aided and abetted, solicited and conspired to commit the dumping, transportation, and location of nuclear, toxic, medical and otherwise hazardous waste materials on Native American Territories across North America and has thus created a clear and present danger to the lives, health, safety, and physical and mental well-being of Native American Peoples in gross violation of article 3 and article 2(c) of the 1948 Genocide Convention, inter alia: Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; .... Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is just a Front Man put in there by the Illliniwaks Board of Trustees to keep Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism alive for the next eleven years with his Stall And Delay Tactics. Fab. The Racist Mascot: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the Jan. 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for their Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his Year 501: The Conquest Continues (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on this campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and a beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews," and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to "Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him.1 Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in that culminates with the band being organized into a Swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews march themselves into a Swastika. By now all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming, and yelling: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out of the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says: "We are honoring the Jews." Whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "Boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. [cid:image002.jpg at 01D3CC03.0F8FB200] Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 8:25 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle cc: University of Illinois Board of Trustees 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 8:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Under the pretext of "moving beyond" Chief Illiniwak,Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones is actually giving an official UI Platform to Chief Illiniwak himself, the White Racist Frat Boy who desecrated everything American Indians hold sacred while prancing around at half-times at sporting events and is still promoting Chief Illiniwak and trying to resurrect Illiniwak. And the entire audience is expected to sit there and listen to Chief Illiniwak expound the virtues and values of Illiniwakism. Then everyone is going to break up into small group sessions with facilitators no less where they are supposed to discuss and debate the values and virtues of Illiniwakism. Then they are all supposed to answer questions about Illiniwakism and come up with joint solutions for dealing with Illiniwakism. Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones resurrected Chief Illiniwak at the last homecoming at the start of his Capital Campaign in order to keep the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni happy so that they will give more money so he can fulfill his quota. So this is just more pandering to the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni during the new Capital Campaign so they will give more money, letting the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni know that "I feel your pain," while milking them for all that they are worth. Yo, Illiniwak Jones: How about the next time we bring in the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and give him an Official UI Platform, and then have focus groups and facilitators for his viewpoints, and questions and come up with a strategy for dealing with the Klan. And then we can invite in the current Fuhrer for the American Nazi Party and give him the same Official University of Illiniwaks royal and respectful treatment that we are going to give Chief Illiniwak Himself. And while you are at it Illiniwaks Jones, what are you going to do about our Native American Studies Program that was intended to be partial reparations for Chief Illiniwak but was nevertheless gutted and destroyed when the University of Illiniwaks illegally fired the Palestinian American Professor of American Indian Studies Steven Salaita, threw him, his wife and his baby out into the street with no visible means of support, destroyed his entire Academic career, and effectively terminated our Native American Studies Program? Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ 1 Guess who? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The relentless accusations by Theresa May and Boris Johnson that have been parroted across the corporate media in the West indicate that the manipulation of public perception is everything and facts count for little. April 4, 2018 Mass Deception and the Prelude to World War by Colin Todhunter Facebook Twitter Google+ Reddit Email https://uziiw38pmyg1ai60732c4011-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/dropzone /2017/09/atoa-print-icon.png In Libya, NATO bombed a path to Tripoli to help its proxy forces on the ground oust Gaddafi. Tens of thousands lost their lives and that country’s social fabric and infrastructure now lies in ruins. Gaddafi was murdered and his plans to assert African independence and undermine Western ( not least French) hegemony on that continent have been rendered obsolete. In Syria, the US, Turkey, France, Britain, Saudi Arabia and Qatar have been helping to arm militants. The Daily Telegraph’s March 2013 article “US and Europe in ‘major airlift of arms to Syrian rebels through Zagreb’” reported that 3,000 tons of weapons dating back to the former Yugoslavia had been sent in 75 planeloads from Zagreb airport to the rebels. The New York Times March 2013 article “Arms Airlift to Syria Rebels Expands, With CIA Aid” stated that Arab governments and Turkey had sharply increased their military aid to Syria’s opposition fighters. This aid included more than 160 military cargo flights. Sold under the notion of a spontaneous democratic uprising against a tyrannical political leader, Syria is little more than an illegal war for capital, empire and energy. The West and its allies have been instrumental in organising the war as elaborated by Tim Anderson in his book ‘ The Dirty War on Syria’. Over the last 15 years or so, politicians and the media have been manipulating popular sentiment to get an increasingly war-fatigued Western public to support ongoing wars under the notion of protecting civilians or a bogus ‘war on terror’. They spin a yarn about securing women’s rights or a war on terror in Afghanistan, removing despots from power in Iraq, Libya or Syria or protecting human life, while then going on to attack or help destabilise countries, resulting in the loss of hundreds of thousands of civilian lives. Emotive language designed to instil fear about potential terror attacks in Europe or myths about humanitarianism intervention are used as a pretext to wage imperialist wars in mineral-rich countries and geostrategically important regions. Part of the battle for the public’s hearts and minds is to keep people confused. They must be convinced to regard these wars and conflicts as a disconnected array of events and not as the planned machinations of empire. The ongoing disinformation narrative about Russian aggression is part of the strategy. Ultimately, Russia (and China) is the real and increasingly imminent target: Moscow has stood in the way of the West’s plans in Syria and both Russia and China are undermining the role of the dollar in international trade, a lynchpin of US power. The countries of the West are effectively heading for war with Russia but relatively few among the public seem to know or even care. Many are oblivious to the slaughter that has already been inflicted on populations with the help of their taxes and governments in far-away lands. With the reckless neoconservative warmonger John Bolton now part of the Trump administration, it seems we could be hurtling towards major war much faster than previously thought. Most of the public remains blissfully ignorant of the psy-ops being directed at them through the corporate media. Given recent events in the UK and the ramping up of anti-Russia rhetoric, if ordinary members of the public think that Theresa May or Boris Johnson ultimately have their best interests at heart, they should think again. The major transnational corporations based on Wall Street and in the City of London are the ones setting Anglo-US policy agendas often via the Brookings Institute, Council on Foreign Relations, International Crisis Group, Chatham House, etc. The owners of these companies, the capitalist class, have off-shored millions of jobs as well as their personal and company tax liabilities to boost their profits and have bankrupted economies. We see the results in terms of austerity, unemployment, powerlessness, privatization, deregulation, banker control of economies, corporate control of food and seeds, the stripping away of civil liberties, increased mass surveillance and wars to grab mineral resources and ensure US dollar hegemony. These are the interests the politicians serve. It’s the ability to maximise profit by shifting capital around the world that matters to this class, whether on the back of distorted free trade agreements, which open the gates for plunder, or through coercion and militarism, which merely tear them down. Whether it is the structural violence of neoliberal economic policies or actual military violence, the welfare of ordinary folk around the world does not enter the equation. In an imposed oil-thirsty, war-driven system of globalised capitalism and over-consumption that is wholly unnecessary and is stripping the planet bare, the bottom line is that ordinary folk – whether workers in the West, farmers in India or civilians displaced en masse in war zones like Syria – must be bent according to the will of Western capital. We should not be fooled by made-for-media outpourings of morality about good and evil that are designed to create fear, outrage and support for more militarism and resource-grab wars. The shaping of public opinion is a multi-million-dollar industry. Take for instance the mass harvesting of Facebook data by Cambridge Analytica to shape the outcomes of the US election and the Brexit campaign. According to journalist Liam O’Hare, its parent company Strategic Communications Laboratories (SCL) has conducted ‘behavioural change’ programmes in over 60 countries and its clients have included the British Military of Defence, the US State Department and NATO. According to O’Hare, the use of the media to fool the public is one of SCL’s key selling points. Among its activities in Europe have been campaigns targeting Russia. The company has “sweeping links” with Anglo-American political and military interests. In the UK, the interests of the governing Conservative Party and military-intelligence players are brought together via SCL: board members include “an array of Lords, Tory donors, ex-British army officers and defense contractors.” O’Hare says it is clear is that all SCL’s activities have been inextricably linked to its Cambridge Analytica arm. He states: “International deception and meddling is the name of the game for SCL. We finally have the most concrete evidence yet of shadowy actors using dirty tricks in order to rig elections. But these operators aren’t operating from Moscow they are British, Eton educated, headquartered in the City of London and have close ties to Her Majesty’s government” So, what are we to make of the current anti-Russia propaganda we witness regarding the nerve agent incident in Salisbury and the failure of the British government to provide evidence to demonstrate Russian culpability? The relentless accusations by Theresa May and Boris Johnson that have been parroted across the corporate media in the West indicate that the manipulation of public perception is everything and facts count for little. It is alarming given what is at stake – the escalation of conflict between the West and a major nuclear power. Welcome to the world of mass deception à la Edward Bernays and Josef Goebbels. US social commentator Walter Lippmann once said that ‘responsible men’ make decisions and have to be protected from the ‘bewildered herd’ – the public. He added that the public should be subdued, obedient and distracted from what is really happening. Screaming patriotic slogans and fearing for their lives, they should be admiring with awe leaders who save them from destruction. Although the West’s political leaders are manipulating, subduing and distracting the public in true Lippmannesque style, they aren’t ‘saving’ anyone from anything: their reckless actions towards Russia could lead towards a war that could wipe out all life on the planet. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 256 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbn at forestfield.org Thu Apr 5 00:36:21 2018 From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:36:21 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?b?Q2xvdWRmbGFyZeKAmXMgbmV3IOKAmHByaXZh?= =?utf-8?q?cy-focused=E2=80=99_DNS_service_speeds_up_your_web_browsing?= In-Reply-To: <1673193412.1076653.1522768722532@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1673193412.1076653.1522768722532.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1673193412.1076653.1522768722532@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dianna Visek wrote: > This might be a way to ensure access to Socialist websites and others > being targeted. > > "One of the main use cases that the company seems to be tackling here is > how governments have used DNS to get network providers to censor > citizens access to the web." Cloudflare’s new ‘privacy-focused’ DNS > service speeds up your web browsing I strongly encourage one and all to reconsider Cloudflare's service here, particularly with regard to ensuring access to Internet-based services where free speech is important. Cloudflare, architecturally speaking, is also in an ideal spot to be a spy on users. Whether it's logging visitor traffic or injecting content into a conveyed copy of a site (like ISPs have been doing for some time now), Cloudflare could undo one's privacy quite effectively. Cloudflare also has a horrible track record when it comes to respecting their users' freedom of speech. Consider what TorrentFreak.com reported in https://torrentfreak.com/cloudflare-kicking-daily-stormer-is-bad-news-for-pirate-sites-170817/ regarding Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince. Prince went from saying: > We're the plumbers of the internet. We make the pipes work but it's not > right for us to inspect what is or isn't going through the pipes. If > companies like ours or ISPs (internet service providers) start censoring > there would be an uproar. It would lead us down a path of internet > censors and controls akin to a country like China. when asked about blocking access to websites Cloudflare caches which link to speech some find objectionable and saying: > Even if it were able to, Cloudflare does not monitor, evaluate, judge or > store content appearing on a third party website. in https://www.cloudflare.com/media/pdf/cloudflare-whitepaper-intermediary-liability.pdf (page 4) on intermediary liability for alleged copyright infringement, to saying: > I woke up this morning in a bad mood and decided to kick them [Daily > Stormer] off the Internet. when he decided to terminate the account of Cloudflare customer and alleged neo-nazi site Daily Stormer. When free speech comes with limits, you never really know where the line is in /this/ transaction, or with /this/ set of users, or in /this/ moment. From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Apr 5 01:47:37 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 01:47:37 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! References: Message-ID: The next stage in this Campaign by Jones to Resurrect and Restore Chief Illiniwak is to bring in these two ethically compromised-at-home law school deans who will argue that Chief Illiniwak is protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. Sure. The Ku Klux Klan and Klanners are protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. And the American Nazi Party and Nazis are protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:23 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! So notice that during the past academic year alone, Jones has now resurrected Chief Illiniwak twice. First during the Fall Homecoming Parade in order to coincide with and support the Launch of his new Capital Campaign, and now this latest atrocity towards the same End. To paraphrase some advice Machiavelli once gave to his Prince: One who wants to deceive will always find those willing to be deceived. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:03 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is no idiot. He knew full well when he took this job from the Illiniwaks Board of Trustees that he would have to STALL AND DELAY getting rid of Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism for as long as he was Chancellor-look how the Illiniwaks Board of Trustees forced out Nancy Cantor. They who pay this piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 12:09 PM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! I still remember when Illiniwaks Chancellor Mort Weir called an emergency press conference to publicly proclaim that Chief Illiniwak is here to stay. Ceteris paribus for Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones. Plus ca change at the University of Illiniwaks. They who pay the piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Indictment of the Federal Government of the U.S. for the commission of international crimes and petition for orders mandating its proscription and dissolution as an international criminal conspiracy and criminal organization By Francis A. Boyle, Professor of International Law 18 September 1992 Introduction All citizens of the World Community have both the right and the duty under public international law to sit in judgment over a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental norms of international criminal law committed by any member state of that same World Community. Such is the case for the International Tribunal of Indigenous Peoples and Oppressed Nationalities in the United States of America that convenes in San Francisco during the weekend of October 1-4, 1992. Its weighty but important task is to examine the long history of international criminal activity that has been perpetrated by the Federal Government of the United States of America against the Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America since it was founded in 1787. Toward that end, I have the honor to present to the Members of this Tribunal the following charges against the Federal Government of the United States of America under international criminal law. In light of the gravity, severity, and longstanding nature of these international crimes and also in light of the fact that the Federal Government of the United States of America appears to be irrevocably committed to continuing down this path of lawlessness and criminality against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America and elsewhere, I hereby petition the Members of this Tribunal to issue an Order proscribing the Federal Government of the United States of America as an International Criminal Conspiracy and a Criminal Organization under the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles as well as the other sources of public international law specified below. For that reason, I also request that the Members of this Tribunal issue an Order dissolving the Federal Government of the United States of America as a legal and political entity. Finally, I ask this Tribunal to declare that international legal sovereignty over the Territories principally inhabited by the Native American Peoples, the New Afrikan People, the Mexicano People, and the People of Puerto Rico resides in the hands of these respective Peoples Themselves. In this regard, I should point out that the final Decision of this Tribunal will qualify as a judicial decision within the meaning of article 38(1)(d) of the Statute of the International Court of Justice and will therefore constitute a subsidiary means for the determination of rules of law for international law and practice. The Statute of the International Court of Justice is an integral part of the United Nations Charter under article 92 thereof. Thus, this Tribunal's Decision can be relied upon by some future International Criminal Court or Tribunal, as well as by any People or State of the World Community that desires to initiate criminal proceedings against named individuals for the commission of the following international crimes. The Decision of this Tribunal shall serve as adequate notice to the appropriate officials in the United States Federal Government that they bear personal criminal responsibility under international law and the domestic legal systems of all Peoples and States in the World Community for designing and implementing these illegal, criminal and reprehensible policies and practices against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America. Hereinafter, the Federal Government of the United States of America will be referred to as the Defendant. BILL OF PARTICULARS AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA The Native American Peoples 1. The Defendant has perpetrated innumerable Crimes Against eace, Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes against Native American Peoples as recognized by the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles. 2. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Genocide against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. 3. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Apartheid against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1973 International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid. 4. The Defendant has perpetrated a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental human rights of Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights. 5. The Defendant has perpetrated numerous and repeated violations of the 1965 International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination against Native American Peoples. 6. The Defendant has systematically violated 371 treaties it concluded with Native American Peoples in wanton disregard of the basic principle of public international law and practice dictating pacta sunt servanda. 7. The Defendant has denied and violated the international legal right of Native American Peoples to self-determination as recognized by the 1945 United Nations Charter, the 1966 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the 1966 International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, fundamental principles of customary international law, and jus cogens. 8. The Defendant has violated the seminal United Nations Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Territories of 1960 with respect to Native American Peoples and Territories. Pursuant thereto, the Defendant has an absolute international legal obligation to decolonize Native American Territories immediately and to transfer all powers it currently exercises there to the Native American Peoples. 9. The Defendant has illegally refused to accord full-scope protections as Prisoners-of-War to captured Native American independence fighters in violation of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and Additional Protocol I thereto of 1977. The Defendant's treatment of captured Native American independence fighters as common criminals and terrorists constitutes a grave breach of the Geneva Accords and thus a serious war crime. 10. The Defendant has deliberately and systematically permitted, aided and abetted, solicited and conspired to commit the dumping, transportation, and location of nuclear, toxic, medical and otherwise hazardous waste materials on Native American Territories across North America and has thus created a clear and present danger to the lives, health, safety, and physical and mental well-being of Native American Peoples in gross violation of article 3 and article 2(c) of the 1948 Genocide Convention, inter alia: Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; .... Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is just a Front Man put in there by the Illliniwaks Board of Trustees to keep Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism alive for the next eleven years with his Stall And Delay Tactics. Fab. The Racist Mascot: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the Jan. 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for their Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his Year 501: The Conquest Continues (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on this campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and a beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews," and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to "Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him.1 Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in that culminates with the band being organized into a Swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews march themselves into a Swastika. By now all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming, and yelling: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out of the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says: "We are honoring the Jews." Whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "Boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. [cid:image002.jpg at 01D3CC56.24F758C0] Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 8:25 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle cc: University of Illinois Board of Trustees 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 8:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Under the pretext of "moving beyond" Chief Illiniwak,Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones is actually giving an official UI Platform to Chief Illiniwak himself, the White Racist Frat Boy who desecrated everything American Indians hold sacred while prancing around at half-times at sporting events and is still promoting Chief Illiniwak and trying to resurrect Illiniwak. And the entire audience is expected to sit there and listen to Chief Illiniwak expound the virtues and values of Illiniwakism. Then everyone is going to break up into small group sessions with facilitators no less where they are supposed to discuss and debate the values and virtues of Illiniwakism. Then they are all supposed to answer questions about Illiniwakism and come up with joint solutions for dealing with Illiniwakism. Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones resurrected Chief Illiniwak at the last homecoming at the start of his Capital Campaign in order to keep the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni happy so that they will give more money so he can fulfill his quota. So this is just more pandering to the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni during the new Capital Campaign so they will give more money, letting the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni know that "I feel your pain," while milking them for all that they are worth. Yo, Illiniwak Jones: How about the next time we bring in the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and give him an Official UI Platform, and then have focus groups and facilitators for his viewpoints, and questions and come up with a strategy for dealing with the Klan. And then we can invite in the current Fuhrer for the American Nazi Party and give him the same Official University of Illiniwaks royal and respectful treatment that we are going to give Chief Illiniwak Himself. And while you are at it Illiniwaks Jones, what are you going to do about our Native American Studies Program that was intended to be partial reparations for Chief Illiniwak but was nevertheless gutted and destroyed when the University of Illiniwaks illegally fired the Palestinian American Professor of American Indian Studies Steven Salaita, threw him, his wife and his baby out into the street with no visible means of support, destroyed his entire Academic career, and effectively terminated our Native American Studies Program? Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ 1 Guess who? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But that doesn't matter to these people because, in the western chauvinist view, any regime that isn't liberal is, by definition, not democratic-- no matter how much support it has from its people-- because what makes a regime in the old colonial world "democratic" is the support of western journalists and NGOs. And they say we live in a post-colonial world! Thailand, which as anyone will tell you was once a “beacon of democracy” in the region, is sliding down the league tables for everything from democracy to freedom of the press to simple all-round freedom. If there is anything a western liberal hates more than a military junta it's hard to say what that might be. And while they tend not to like populists, even when elected with significant majorities, and even when they remain popular with majorities of their electorates, military juntas are really really really bad. The paragons of liberal evangelizing do, however, always seem to avoid discussion of Egypt when going on and on about the evils of military governments, perhaps because the Obama State Department was loath to label the coup there as a coup (because Muslims?) and because the EU has mysteriously maintained and supplemented its trade relations with Egypt, at the very same time as it has put all discussion of free trade with Thailand on hold until such time as what passes for democracy in Thailand has been restored. It may be because the Thai junta has curtailed freedom of speech and expression and jailed some 100 people for violations of Lese Majeste and other laws limiting speech while the Sisi junta has only murdered some 800 protesters and jailed and tortured thousands. Or could it just be that since al-Sisi has been elected with a landslide 97% of votes in a recent election, the Classics Illustrated definition of democracy has been adhered to and there is no need to wonder about what would otherwise be a glaring discrepancy? Inquiring minds want to know. We all need a sense of proportion I suppose. Perhaps "'Tis a muddle, and that's aw" as Stephen Blackpool in Dickens' Hard Times might have said of this odd discrepancy, and it’s best to leave it at that. As anyone who has ever tried knows, asking difficult questions of liberals is often the quickest and easiest way to find yourself accused of racism and/or being a cast member of “Literally Hitler”, since not holding the approved opinions is obviously an indication of holding the evil ones. And Myanmar, which just a couple of years ago was the journalist's and NGO's emerging “beacon of democracy”for the region, is mired in tragedy with 700 thousand Rohingya having been forcibly relocated to Bangladesh and Daw Aung San Suu Kyi having had her portrait removed from the foyer of some building in some college in the UK. Sometimes it’s hard to know which of those things strikes western people as more ‘significant’, but that’s pretty much par for the course. The British colonization of Burma rarely if ever comes up in journalistic accounts of the ethnic conflict in Myanmar, regardless of the fact that it’s plainly a case of the British colonial policy of ethnic mixing for the purpose of creating division and weakness having foisted on the Burmese an intractable problem that most of these journalists and all of the NGO folks probably believe GOOGLE could solve with a Diversity Memo, as long as people like James Damore are kept out of the loop. Why won’t these “Burman supremacists” just recognize that diversity is strength and that decade after decade of endless inter-ethnic war is not evidence to the contrary? We are not, after all, dealing with intellectuals when we talk about journalists and NGO people. They are more like a species of the (usually) male backpackers who, having read and reread their Lonely Planet and Rough Guides, sit in cafes and guesthouse restaurants throughout the region holding forth to the less literate members of the fraternity on the exotic wonders of the cultures of SE Asia. Given half a chance, these westsplainers will even launch into lecturing the locals on what their cultures really are all about. At that point, said backpacker is half way to a career in NGO finger-wagging or journalism. 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Apr 5 12:44:54 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 12:44:54 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Massive Dissent at Google to Drone Murders v No Dissent from Illiniwaks Law Faculty:Don't Be Evil! v. Do Evil! Message-ID: "...particularly to the drone assassinations, "the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times" - which have killed more than 5,000 people, including U.S. citizens and hundreds of children." Chomsky {now 10,000+ people} 3100 employees at Google publicly objected to their Drone Murder Work invoking their Motto: Don't Be Evil! Not one person on the Illiniwaks Law Faculty but me objected to the Obama/Clinton/KillerKoh Drone Murder Extermination Campaign against Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color that verges on Genocide. Their Motto is: Do Evil! Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brussel at illinois.edu Thu Apr 5 16:18:21 2018 From: brussel at illinois.edu (Brussel, Morton K) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 16:18:21 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <734E1D0A-6E2F-4B51-AAAF-42588AD13DD5@illinois.edu> Yes, This argument should be enunciated at April 10 from 3 to 5 p.m. in the multipurpose room on the second floor of the Student Dining and Residential Programs Building, 301 E. Gregory Drive, Champaign. Moreover, it is an institutional question, i.e., must all viewpoints be respected by institutions, even public ones such as universities and schools? Do we have rules at UIUC about hate speech? Should we? On Apr 4, 2018, at 8:47 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: The next stage in this Campaign by Jones to Resurrect and Restore Chief Illiniwak is to bring in these two ethically compromised-at-home law school deans who will argue that Chief Illiniwak is protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. Sure. The Ku Klux Klan and Klanners are protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. And the American Nazi Party and Nazis are protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:23 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! So notice that during the past academic year alone, Jones has now resurrected Chief Illiniwak twice. First during the Fall Homecoming Parade in order to coincide with and support the Launch of his new Capital Campaign, and now this latest atrocity towards the same End. To paraphrase some advice Machiavelli once gave to his Prince: One who wants to deceive will always find those willing to be deceived. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:03 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is no idiot. He knew full well when he took this job from the Illiniwaks Board of Trustees that he would have to STALL AND DELAY getting rid of Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism for as long as he was Chancellor—look how the Illiniwaks Board of Trustees forced out Nancy Cantor. They who pay this piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 12:09 PM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! I still remember when Illiniwaks Chancellor Mort Weir called an emergency press conference to publicly proclaim that Chief Illiniwak is here to stay. Ceteris paribus for Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones. Plus ca change at the University of Illiniwaks. They who pay the piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Indictment of the Federal Government of the U.S. for the commission of international crimes and petition for orders mandating its proscription and dissolution as an international criminal conspiracy and criminal organization By Francis A. Boyle, Professor of International Law 18 September 1992 Introduction All citizens of the World Community have both the right and the duty under public international law to sit in judgment over a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental norms of international criminal law committed by any member state of that same World Community. Such is the case for the International Tribunal of Indigenous Peoples and Oppressed Nationalities in the United States of America that convenes in San Francisco during the weekend of October 1-4, 1992. Its weighty but important task is to examine the long history of international criminal activity that has been perpetrated by the Federal Government of the United States of America against the Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America since it was founded in 1787. Toward that end, I have the honor to present to the Members of this Tribunal the following charges against the Federal Government of the United States of America under international criminal law. In light of the gravity, severity, and longstanding nature of these international crimes and also in light of the fact that the Federal Government of the United States of America appears to be irrevocably committed to continuing down this path of lawlessness and criminality against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America and elsewhere, I hereby petition the Members of this Tribunal to issue an Order proscribing the Federal Government of the United States of America as an International Criminal Conspiracy and a Criminal Organization under the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles as well as the other sources of public international law specified below. For that reason, I also request that the Members of this Tribunal issue an Order dissolving the Federal Government of the United States of America as a legal and political entity. Finally, I ask this Tribunal to declare that international legal sovereignty over the Territories principally inhabited by the Native American Peoples, the New Afrikan People, the Mexicano People, and the People of Puerto Rico resides in the hands of these respective Peoples Themselves. In this regard, I should point out that the final Decision of this Tribunal will qualify as a judicial decision within the meaning of article 38(1)(d) of the Statute of the International Court of Justice and will therefore constitute a subsidiary means for the determination of rules of law for international law and practice. The Statute of the International Court of Justice is an integral part of the United Nations Charter under article 92 thereof. Thus, this Tribunal's Decision can be relied upon by some future International Criminal Court or Tribunal, as well as by any People or State of the World Community that desires to initiate criminal proceedings against named individuals for the commission of the following international crimes. The Decision of this Tribunal shall serve as adequate notice to the appropriate officials in the United States Federal Government that they bear personal criminal responsibility under international law and the domestic legal systems of all Peoples and States in the World Community for designing and implementing these illegal, criminal and reprehensible policies and practices against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America. Hereinafter, the Federal Government of the United States of America will be referred to as the Defendant. BILL OF PARTICULARS AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA The Native American Peoples 1. The Defendant has perpetrated innumerable Crimes Against eace, Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes against Native American Peoples as recognized by the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles. 2. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Genocide against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. 3. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Apartheid against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1973 International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid. 4. The Defendant has perpetrated a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental human rights of Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights. 5. The Defendant has perpetrated numerous and repeated violations of the 1965 International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination against Native American Peoples. 6. The Defendant has systematically violated 371 treaties it concluded with Native American Peoples in wanton disregard of the basic principle of public international law and practice dictating pacta sunt servanda. 7. The Defendant has denied and violated the international legal right of Native American Peoples to self-determination as recognized by the 1945 United Nations Charter, the 1966 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the 1966 International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, fundamental principles of customary international law, and jus cogens. 8. The Defendant has violated the seminal United Nations Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Territories of 1960 with respect to Native American Peoples and Territories. Pursuant thereto, the Defendant has an absolute international legal obligation to decolonize Native American Territories immediately and to transfer all powers it currently exercises there to the Native American Peoples. 9. The Defendant has illegally refused to accord full-scope protections as Prisoners-of-War to captured Native American independence fighters in violation of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and Additional Protocol I thereto of 1977. The Defendant's treatment of captured Native American independence fighters as common criminals and terrorists constitutes a grave breach of the Geneva Accords and thus a serious war crime. 10. The Defendant has deliberately and systematically permitted, aided and abetted, solicited and conspired to commit the dumping, transportation, and location of nuclear, toxic, medical and otherwise hazardous waste materials on Native American Territories across North America and has thus created a clear and present danger to the lives, health, safety, and physical and mental well-being of Native American Peoples in gross violation of article 3 and article 2(c) of the 1948 Genocide Convention, inter alia: Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; .... Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is just a Front Man put in there by the Illliniwaks Board of Trustees to keep Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism alive for the next eleven years with his Stall And Delay Tactics. Fab. The Racist Mascot: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the Jan. 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for their Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his Year 501: The Conquest Continues (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on this campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and a beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews," and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to "Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him.1 Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in that culminates with the band being organized into a Swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews march themselves into a Swastika. By now all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming, and yelling: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out of the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says: "We are honoring the Jews." Whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "Boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 8:25 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle cc: University of Illinois Board of Trustees 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 8:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Under the pretext of “moving beyond” Chief Illiniwak,Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones is actually giving an official UI Platform to Chief Illiniwak himself, the White Racist Frat Boy who desecrated everything American Indians hold sacred while prancing around at half-times at sporting events and is still promoting Chief Illiniwak and trying to resurrect Illiniwak. And the entire audience is expected to sit there and listen to Chief Illiniwak expound the virtues and values of Illiniwakism. Then everyone is going to break up into small group sessions with facilitators no less where they are supposed to discuss and debate the values and virtues of Illiniwakism. Then they are all supposed to answer questions about Illiniwakism and come up with joint solutions for dealing with Illiniwakism. Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones resurrected Chief Illiniwak at the last homecoming at the start of his Capital Campaign in order to keep the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni happy so that they will give more money so he can fulfill his quota. So this is just more pandering to the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni during the new Capital Campaign so they will give more money, letting the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni know that “I feel your pain,” while milking them for all that they are worth. Yo, Illiniwak Jones: How about the next time we bring in the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and give him an Official UI Platform, and then have focus groups and facilitators for his viewpoints, and questions and come up with a strategy for dealing with the Klan. And then we can invite in the current Fuhrer for the American Nazi Party and give him the same Official University of Illiniwaks royal and respectful treatment that we are going to give Chief Illiniwak Himself. And while you are at it Illiniwaks Jones, what are you going to do about our Native American Studies Program that was intended to be partial reparations for Chief Illiniwak but was nevertheless gutted and destroyed when the University of Illiniwaks illegally fired the Palestinian American Professor of American Indian Studies Steven Salaita, threw him, his wife and his baby out into the street with no visible means of support, destroyed his entire Academic career, and effectively terminated our Native American Studies Program? Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ 1 Guess who? _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Apr 5 17:08:01 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 17:08:01 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! In-Reply-To: <734E1D0A-6E2F-4B51-AAAF-42588AD13DD5@illinois.edu> References: <734E1D0A-6E2F-4B51-AAAF-42588AD13DD5@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Thanks for agreeing with me Mort. It is most appreciated. Yes, as I said Illiniwak Jones can next invite onto Campus the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and give him the Official Illiniwak Red Carpet Treatment. And then next Illiniwak Jones can invite onto Campus the Fuhrer of the American Nazi Party and give him the Official Illiniwak Red Carpet Treatment. Then Illiniwak Jones can invite onto Campus his two discredited law deans to argue that All Three have a First Amendment Right to poison and pollute and debase and degrade and disgrace our Campus and our Community with their Bigotry and Racism and Genocide. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Brussel, Morton K Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 11:18 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Yes, This argument should be enunciated at April 10 from 3 to 5 p.m. in the multipurpose room on the second floor of the Student Dining and Residential Programs Building, 301 E. Gregory Drive, Champaign. Moreover, it is an institutional question, i.e., must all viewpoints be respected by institutions, even public ones such as universities and schools? Do we have rules at UIUC about hate speech? Should we? On Apr 4, 2018, at 8:47 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: The next stage in this Campaign by Jones to Resurrect and Restore Chief Illiniwak is to bring in these two ethically compromised-at-home law school deans who will argue that Chief Illiniwak is protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. Sure. The Ku Klux Klan and Klanners are protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. And the American Nazi Party and Nazis are protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:23 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! So notice that during the past academic year alone, Jones has now resurrected Chief Illiniwak twice. First during the Fall Homecoming Parade in order to coincide with and support the Launch of his new Capital Campaign, and now this latest atrocity towards the same End. To paraphrase some advice Machiavelli once gave to his Prince: One who wants to deceive will always find those willing to be deceived. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:03 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is no idiot. He knew full well when he took this job from the Illiniwaks Board of Trustees that he would have to STALL AND DELAY getting rid of Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism for as long as he was Chancellor—look how the Illiniwaks Board of Trustees forced out Nancy Cantor. They who pay this piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 12:09 PM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! I still remember when Illiniwaks Chancellor Mort Weir called an emergency press conference to publicly proclaim that Chief Illiniwak is here to stay. Ceteris paribus for Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones. Plus ca change at the University of Illiniwaks. They who pay the piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Indictment of the Federal Government of the U.S. for the commission of international crimes and petition for orders mandating its proscription and dissolution as an international criminal conspiracy and criminal organization By Francis A. Boyle, Professor of International Law 18 September 1992 Introduction All citizens of the World Community have both the right and the duty under public international law to sit in judgment over a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental norms of international criminal law committed by any member state of that same World Community. Such is the case for the International Tribunal of Indigenous Peoples and Oppressed Nationalities in the United States of America that convenes in San Francisco during the weekend of October 1-4, 1992. Its weighty but important task is to examine the long history of international criminal activity that has been perpetrated by the Federal Government of the United States of America against the Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America since it was founded in 1787. Toward that end, I have the honor to present to the Members of this Tribunal the following charges against the Federal Government of the United States of America under international criminal law. In light of the gravity, severity, and longstanding nature of these international crimes and also in light of the fact that the Federal Government of the United States of America appears to be irrevocably committed to continuing down this path of lawlessness and criminality against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America and elsewhere, I hereby petition the Members of this Tribunal to issue an Order proscribing the Federal Government of the United States of America as an International Criminal Conspiracy and a Criminal Organization under the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles as well as the other sources of public international law specified below. For that reason, I also request that the Members of this Tribunal issue an Order dissolving the Federal Government of the United States of America as a legal and political entity. Finally, I ask this Tribunal to declare that international legal sovereignty over the Territories principally inhabited by the Native American Peoples, the New Afrikan People, the Mexicano People, and the People of Puerto Rico resides in the hands of these respective Peoples Themselves. In this regard, I should point out that the final Decision of this Tribunal will qualify as a judicial decision within the meaning of article 38(1)(d) of the Statute of the International Court of Justice and will therefore constitute a subsidiary means for the determination of rules of law for international law and practice. The Statute of the International Court of Justice is an integral part of the United Nations Charter under article 92 thereof. Thus, this Tribunal's Decision can be relied upon by some future International Criminal Court or Tribunal, as well as by any People or State of the World Community that desires to initiate criminal proceedings against named individuals for the commission of the following international crimes. The Decision of this Tribunal shall serve as adequate notice to the appropriate officials in the United States Federal Government that they bear personal criminal responsibility under international law and the domestic legal systems of all Peoples and States in the World Community for designing and implementing these illegal, criminal and reprehensible policies and practices against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America. Hereinafter, the Federal Government of the United States of America will be referred to as the Defendant. BILL OF PARTICULARS AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA The Native American Peoples 1. The Defendant has perpetrated innumerable Crimes Against eace, Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes against Native American Peoples as recognized by the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles. 2. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Genocide against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. 3. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Apartheid against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1973 International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid. 4. The Defendant has perpetrated a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental human rights of Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights. 5. The Defendant has perpetrated numerous and repeated violations of the 1965 International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination against Native American Peoples. 6. The Defendant has systematically violated 371 treaties it concluded with Native American Peoples in wanton disregard of the basic principle of public international law and practice dictating pacta sunt servanda. 7. The Defendant has denied and violated the international legal right of Native American Peoples to self-determination as recognized by the 1945 United Nations Charter, the 1966 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the 1966 International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, fundamental principles of customary international law, and jus cogens. 8. The Defendant has violated the seminal United Nations Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Territories of 1960 with respect to Native American Peoples and Territories. Pursuant thereto, the Defendant has an absolute international legal obligation to decolonize Native American Territories immediately and to transfer all powers it currently exercises there to the Native American Peoples. 9. The Defendant has illegally refused to accord full-scope protections as Prisoners-of-War to captured Native American independence fighters in violation of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and Additional Protocol I thereto of 1977. The Defendant's treatment of captured Native American independence fighters as common criminals and terrorists constitutes a grave breach of the Geneva Accords and thus a serious war crime. 10. The Defendant has deliberately and systematically permitted, aided and abetted, solicited and conspired to commit the dumping, transportation, and location of nuclear, toxic, medical and otherwise hazardous waste materials on Native American Territories across North America and has thus created a clear and present danger to the lives, health, safety, and physical and mental well-being of Native American Peoples in gross violation of article 3 and article 2(c) of the 1948 Genocide Convention, inter alia: Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; .... Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is just a Front Man put in there by the Illliniwaks Board of Trustees to keep Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism alive for the next eleven years with his Stall And Delay Tactics. Fab. The Racist Mascot: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the Jan. 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for their Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his Year 501: The Conquest Continues (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on this campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and a beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews," and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to "Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him.1 Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in that culminates with the band being organized into a Swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews march themselves into a Swastika. By now all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming, and yelling: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out of the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says: "We are honoring the Jews." Whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "Boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 8:25 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle cc: University of Illinois Board of Trustees 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 8:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Under the pretext of “moving beyond” Chief Illiniwak,Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones is actually giving an official UI Platform to Chief Illiniwak himself, the White Racist Frat Boy who desecrated everything American Indians hold sacred while prancing around at half-times at sporting events and is still promoting Chief Illiniwak and trying to resurrect Illiniwak. And the entire audience is expected to sit there and listen to Chief Illiniwak expound the virtues and values of Illiniwakism. Then everyone is going to break up into small group sessions with facilitators no less where they are supposed to discuss and debate the values and virtues of Illiniwakism. Then they are all supposed to answer questions about Illiniwakism and come up with joint solutions for dealing with Illiniwakism. Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones resurrected Chief Illiniwak at the last homecoming at the start of his Capital Campaign in order to keep the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni happy so that they will give more money so he can fulfill his quota. So this is just more pandering to the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni during the new Capital Campaign so they will give more money, letting the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni know that “I feel your pain,” while milking them for all that they are worth. Yo, Illiniwak Jones: How about the next time we bring in the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and give him an Official UI Platform, and then have focus groups and facilitators for his viewpoints, and questions and come up with a strategy for dealing with the Klan. And then we can invite in the current Fuhrer for the American Nazi Party and give him the same Official University of Illiniwaks royal and respectful treatment that we are going to give Chief Illiniwak Himself. And while you are at it Illiniwaks Jones, what are you going to do about our Native American Studies Program that was intended to be partial reparations for Chief Illiniwak but was nevertheless gutted and destroyed when the University of Illiniwaks illegally fired the Palestinian American Professor of American Indian Studies Steven Salaita, threw him, his wife and his baby out into the street with no visible means of support, destroyed his entire Academic career, and effectively terminated our Native American Studies Program? Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ ________________________________ 1 Guess who? _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Apr 5 18:30:59 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 18:30:59 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! References: <734E1D0A-6E2F-4B51-AAAF-42588AD13DD5@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Actually, I have a great idea for Illiniwak Jones to consider for the 2018 Illiniwaks Homecoming Parade and Football Game. This year, in addition to having Chief Illiniwak in his convertible car for the Illiniwaks Homecoming Parade, Illiniwak Jones can add a Klanner dressed up in his White Hood and Robes and carrying a battery powered Cross that glows red in the dark, together with a Nazi wearing a full SS Uniform and giving everyone the Hitler Salute to the crowd as the car moves along the parade route: Sieg Heil! Then on Saturday all 4 of them can go over to Memorial Stadium for the Football Game and at half-time all 4 appear together on the 50 yard line after the Illiniwak Band Marches 3-in-1 with their Fake Indian Music, waving to the Crowd of Illiniwaks with the Nazi repeatedly giving the Hitler Salute, though Chief Illiniwak would not dance so as not to offend the NCAA. Knowing them as I do I am certain that 60,000+ Illiniwak Fans would go hysterical with joy to see the return of their god Chief Illiniwak notwithstanding the Klanner and the Nazi. And the Illiniwak Board of Trustees would then vote a hefty bonus to Iliniwak Jones for his fine efforts to Resurrect and Restore Chief Illiniwak notwithstanding the Klanner and the Nazi. First things first! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 12:08 PM To: Brussel, Morton K Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Thanks for agreeing with me Mort. It is most appreciated. Yes, as I said Illiniwak Jones can next invite onto Campus the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and give him the Official Illiniwak Red Carpet Treatment. And then next Illiniwak Jones can invite onto Campus the Fuhrer of the American Nazi Party and give him the Official Illiniwak Red Carpet Treatment. Then Illiniwak Jones can invite onto Campus his two discredited law deans to argue that All Three have a First Amendment Right to poison and pollute and debase and degrade and disgrace our Campus and our Community with their Bigotry and Racism and Genocide. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Brussel, Morton K Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 11:18 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Yes, This argument should be enunciated at April 10 from 3 to 5 p.m. in the multipurpose room on the second floor of the Student Dining and Residential Programs Building, 301 E. Gregory Drive, Champaign. Moreover, it is an institutional question, i.e., must all viewpoints be respected by institutions, even public ones such as universities and schools? Do we have rules at UIUC about hate speech? Should we? On Apr 4, 2018, at 8:47 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: The next stage in this Campaign by Jones to Resurrect and Restore Chief Illiniwak is to bring in these two ethically compromised-at-home law school deans who will argue that Chief Illiniwak is protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. Sure. The Ku Klux Klan and Klanners are protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. And the American Nazi Party and Nazis are protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:23 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! So notice that during the past academic year alone, Jones has now resurrected Chief Illiniwak twice. First during the Fall Homecoming Parade in order to coincide with and support the Launch of his new Capital Campaign, and now this latest atrocity towards the same End. To paraphrase some advice Machiavelli once gave to his Prince: One who wants to deceive will always find those willing to be deceived. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:03 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is no idiot. He knew full well when he took this job from the Illiniwaks Board of Trustees that he would have to STALL AND DELAY getting rid of Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism for as long as he was Chancellor—look how the Illiniwaks Board of Trustees forced out Nancy Cantor. They who pay this piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 12:09 PM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! I still remember when Illiniwaks Chancellor Mort Weir called an emergency press conference to publicly proclaim that Chief Illiniwak is here to stay. Ceteris paribus for Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones. Plus ca change at the University of Illiniwaks. They who pay the piper call his tune. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM To: 'Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)' > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Indictment of the Federal Government of the U.S. for the commission of international crimes and petition for orders mandating its proscription and dissolution as an international criminal conspiracy and criminal organization By Francis A. Boyle, Professor of International Law 18 September 1992 Introduction All citizens of the World Community have both the right and the duty under public international law to sit in judgment over a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental norms of international criminal law committed by any member state of that same World Community. Such is the case for the International Tribunal of Indigenous Peoples and Oppressed Nationalities in the United States of America that convenes in San Francisco during the weekend of October 1-4, 1992. Its weighty but important task is to examine the long history of international criminal activity that has been perpetrated by the Federal Government of the United States of America against the Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America since it was founded in 1787. Toward that end, I have the honor to present to the Members of this Tribunal the following charges against the Federal Government of the United States of America under international criminal law. In light of the gravity, severity, and longstanding nature of these international crimes and also in light of the fact that the Federal Government of the United States of America appears to be irrevocably committed to continuing down this path of lawlessness and criminality against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America and elsewhere, I hereby petition the Members of this Tribunal to issue an Order proscribing the Federal Government of the United States of America as an International Criminal Conspiracy and a Criminal Organization under the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles as well as the other sources of public international law specified below. For that reason, I also request that the Members of this Tribunal issue an Order dissolving the Federal Government of the United States of America as a legal and political entity. Finally, I ask this Tribunal to declare that international legal sovereignty over the Territories principally inhabited by the Native American Peoples, the New Afrikan People, the Mexicano People, and the People of Puerto Rico resides in the hands of these respective Peoples Themselves. In this regard, I should point out that the final Decision of this Tribunal will qualify as a judicial decision within the meaning of article 38(1)(d) of the Statute of the International Court of Justice and will therefore constitute a subsidiary means for the determination of rules of law for international law and practice. The Statute of the International Court of Justice is an integral part of the United Nations Charter under article 92 thereof. Thus, this Tribunal's Decision can be relied upon by some future International Criminal Court or Tribunal, as well as by any People or State of the World Community that desires to initiate criminal proceedings against named individuals for the commission of the following international crimes. The Decision of this Tribunal shall serve as adequate notice to the appropriate officials in the United States Federal Government that they bear personal criminal responsibility under international law and the domestic legal systems of all Peoples and States in the World Community for designing and implementing these illegal, criminal and reprehensible policies and practices against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America. Hereinafter, the Federal Government of the United States of America will be referred to as the Defendant. BILL OF PARTICULARS AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA The Native American Peoples 1. The Defendant has perpetrated innumerable Crimes Against eace, Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes against Native American Peoples as recognized by the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles. 2. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Genocide against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. 3. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Apartheid against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1973 International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid. 4. The Defendant has perpetrated a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental human rights of Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights. 5. The Defendant has perpetrated numerous and repeated violations of the 1965 International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination against Native American Peoples. 6. The Defendant has systematically violated 371 treaties it concluded with Native American Peoples in wanton disregard of the basic principle of public international law and practice dictating pacta sunt servanda. 7. The Defendant has denied and violated the international legal right of Native American Peoples to self-determination as recognized by the 1945 United Nations Charter, the 1966 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the 1966 International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, fundamental principles of customary international law, and jus cogens. 8. The Defendant has violated the seminal United Nations Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Territories of 1960 with respect to Native American Peoples and Territories. Pursuant thereto, the Defendant has an absolute international legal obligation to decolonize Native American Territories immediately and to transfer all powers it currently exercises there to the Native American Peoples. 9. The Defendant has illegally refused to accord full-scope protections as Prisoners-of-War to captured Native American independence fighters in violation of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and Additional Protocol I thereto of 1977. The Defendant's treatment of captured Native American independence fighters as common criminals and terrorists constitutes a grave breach of the Geneva Accords and thus a serious war crime. 10. The Defendant has deliberately and systematically permitted, aided and abetted, solicited and conspired to commit the dumping, transportation, and location of nuclear, toxic, medical and otherwise hazardous waste materials on Native American Territories across North America and has thus created a clear and present danger to the lives, health, safety, and physical and mental well-being of Native American Peoples in gross violation of article 3 and article 2(c) of the 1948 Genocide Convention, inter alia: Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; .... Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Jones is just a Front Man put in there by the Illliniwaks Board of Trustees to keep Chief Illiniwak and Illiniwakism alive for the next eleven years with his Stall And Delay Tactics. Fab. The Racist Mascot: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the Jan. 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for their Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. In his Year 501: The Conquest Continues (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on this campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and a beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews," and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to "Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him.1 Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in that culminates with the band being organized into a Swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews march themselves into a Swastika. By now all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming, and yelling: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out of the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat Dean Mengele of the Law School turns to his guest and says: "We are honoring the Jews." Whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "Boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 8:25 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! From: NatNews at yahoogroups.com [mailto:NatNews at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schmidt Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:23 PM To: Native News > Subject: [NativeNews] Boyle's letter to U of I president Dear President White: You and the Board of Trustees must eradicate anything related to Indians from the sports program: "Fighting Illini", "Oskeewowow," the TomTom beats, the fake Indian Music from the 3 in 1 march and elsewhere in band performances , the war paint, the feathers, the tomahawks, the Illiniwak Logo, etc. In addition the University of Illinois must hold onto the Illiniwak Logo and not transfer it to the White Racists and Bigots on the so-called Council of Illiniwak Chiefs where they will continue to perpetrate this desecration of Indians forever . You must also indicate that you will vigorously prosecute anyone who violates your Trademark to Chief Illiniwak. You must terminate all licenses for Chief Illiniwak. And you must clear this racist Illiniwak garbage out of all University of Illinois Buildings. Little Red Sambo is finally gone--no thanks to you, the Board of Trustees, the Chancellor, the Provost and previous Board Members, Presidents, Chancellors and Provosts--except for Nancy Kantor whom you all summarily ran out of town on a rail for doing the right thing for American Indians. But now you and the Board of Trustees and the Chancellor and the Provost must concentrate on getting rid of all elements of Little Red Samboism from this campus. Based upon prior experience, I will not hold my breath. But we will keep coming after you all until you do the right thing for American Indians. Professor Francis A. Boyle cc: University of Illinois Board of Trustees 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 8:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: News Gazoo: Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones Gives Official UI Platform to Bigotry & Racism & Genocide Against American Indians! Under the pretext of “moving beyond” Chief Illiniwak,Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones is actually giving an official UI Platform to Chief Illiniwak himself, the White Racist Frat Boy who desecrated everything American Indians hold sacred while prancing around at half-times at sporting events and is still promoting Chief Illiniwak and trying to resurrect Illiniwak. And the entire audience is expected to sit there and listen to Chief Illiniwak expound the virtues and values of Illiniwakism. Then everyone is going to break up into small group sessions with facilitators no less where they are supposed to discuss and debate the values and virtues of Illiniwakism. Then they are all supposed to answer questions about Illiniwakism and come up with joint solutions for dealing with Illiniwakism. Illiniwaks Chancellor Jones resurrected Chief Illiniwak at the last homecoming at the start of his Capital Campaign in order to keep the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni happy so that they will give more money so he can fulfill his quota. So this is just more pandering to the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni during the new Capital Campaign so they will give more money, letting the Illiniwaks Nation Alumni know that “I feel your pain,” while milking them for all that they are worth. Yo, Illiniwak Jones: How about the next time we bring in the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and give him an Official UI Platform, and then have focus groups and facilitators for his viewpoints, and questions and come up with a strategy for dealing with the Klan. And then we can invite in the current Fuhrer for the American Nazi Party and give him the same Official University of Illiniwaks royal and respectful treatment that we are going to give Chief Illiniwak Himself. And while you are at it Illiniwaks Jones, what are you going to do about our Native American Studies Program that was intended to be partial reparations for Chief Illiniwak but was nevertheless gutted and destroyed when the University of Illiniwaks illegally fired the Palestinian American Professor of American Indian Studies Steven Salaita, threw him, his wife and his baby out into the street with no visible means of support, destroyed his entire Academic career, and effectively terminated our Native American Studies Program? Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Fab [mailto:countercurrents.org at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 7:06 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: [Shared Post] Stopping Zionist Genocide Against The Palestinians: The Boycott, Divestment, And Sanctions (BDS) Campaign Fab (fboyle at illinois.edu) thinks you may be interested in the following post: Stopping Zionist Genocide Against The Palestinians: The Boycott, Divestment, And Sanctions (BDS) Campaign https://countercurrents.org/2018/04/06/stopping-zionist-genocide-against-the-palestinians-the-boycott-divestment-and-sanctions-bds-campaign/ From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Apr 7 11:55:10 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 11:55:10 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] UI requests $681 million in state aid? Message-ID: * Classified * Jobs * Shop * Weekly Ads Home » News » Local UI requests $681 million in state aid Fri, 04/06/2018 - 7:00am | Tom Kacich [UI appropriations request.jpg] Photo by: Tom Kacich/The News-Gazette University of Illinois officials including President Tim Killeen, right, and Chancellor Robert Jones, second from right, prepare to address members of the Illinois Senate Appropriations Committee on Thursday, April 5, 2018, at the Illinois Capitol in Springfield. Other Related Content * UI admin tells state senators of Texas schools' faculty-poaching fund [http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-facebook.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-twitter.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/print.png] SPRINGFIELD — University of Illinois officials say they want to increase the institution's enrollment, maintain a tuition freeze and a high level of in-state undergraduate students, and boost financial aid. But doing so will require an increase in state aid, they said. The university made its annual appearance before the state Senate Appropriations Committee on Thursday, making the case for a $681 million budget request that is 5 percent greater than the amount two years ago. The committee took no vote on the request, nor that of any other agency that appeared at Thursday's hearing. Senators said privately that budget talks haven't even begun, although the scheduled end of the legislative session is less than two months away. UI President Tim Killeen told senators that he wants to increase the university system's enrollment, now just under 84,000, to 93,000 by 2021. Most of the enrollment growth would be at the Chicago and Springfield campuses, he said. "It's a mix of things. At Urbana, we'd be strongly propelling the distance education, the online components," he explained after the hearing. "We'd also be looking at professional master's programs at Urbana since the undergraduate classes are close to capacity." At the UI-Chicago, he said, enrollment is more than 30,000 and can grow larger. "What I want to emphasize is that we have a plan, we're following it and we're on track," Killeen said. UI Vice President Wilson said the freshman class at the Urbana campus "is about as big as it can be right now, because everybody has to live in the residence halls, and there are capacity issues there as well as concerns about whether you can get the classes you need to graduate. They're about tapped out on the freshman level, but they can bring in more transfer students." Killeen also said that the UI will continue a tuition freeze for in-state undergraduates for the fourth consecutive year next fall and that he would like to extend it at least two years beyond that. "We're very proud of our tuition freeze. That was not an easy thing to do in the last few years as you might imagine. We want to maintain that and our commitment to affordability," he said. Wilson said that 80 percent of UI undergraduates are Illinois residents. At the Urbana campus, 74 percent of undergrads are from Illinois, and that percentage is much higher than at other Big Ten schools, she said. Wisconsin's in-state level is 57 percent, Michigan's is 51 percent and the Big Ten average is 62 percent. "We want to convey that we have a very strong commitment to Illinois families," she said. The UI's budget request also includes $10 million more for student financial aid, Killeen said. "Affordability is clearly a major problem," he said, connecting the tuition freeze to the budget request, "because we need reliable financial support from the state to do that." The hearing was much less contentious that UI budget sessions in past years. "I think it's fair to give the U of I credit for undertaking what is clearly an intentional path in recent years to bring more in-state students to the Urbana campus," said state Sen. Chapin Rose, R-Mahomet, a member of the committee. "And also attempting to get a handle on the tuition issues. They've now demonstrated several years of commitment to both of those." Also Thursday: — Killeen said he believes UI fund-raising for the new Carle College of Medicine on the Urbana campus "will be successful." He also said that funding for the federal National Institutes of Health is budgeted for a $3 billion increase, "and we are perfectly positioned right now with our amazing Chicago medical school and now this new medical school in Urbana-Champaign ... to go after those new dollars." Rose said fundraising for the engineering-based med school was only 10 percent of what it is supposed to be, but after talking with UI administrators Wednesday, he is convinced "it's back on track. Clearly it got off the track." — Killeen said he favors having "20 to 30 years" to enact the pension-cost shift that Gov. Bruce Rauner proposed to implement over four years. Under Rauner's plan, universities would be responsible for picking up the cost of employee pensions rather than the state government, as is the policy now. "If it's abrupt, it's very disruptive," Killeen said. "I'd start at 20 (years). It's got to be sufficiently long for us to plan around and to be realistic and not to come on the backs of our current students or next year's students." — Urbana campus Chancellor Robert Jones said a Division 1 hockey program is a "quite viable" opportunity if the university athletic program was to expand. But it is "largely dependent upon philanthropic support," he said. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Apr 7 12:12:54 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:12:54 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Class struggle erupts in France Message-ID: * Print * Leaflet * Feedback * Share » Fifty years after May-June 1968, the class struggle erupts in France 7 April 2018 A half century after the French general strike of May-June 1968, the class struggle in France is entering a new and explosive stage. A confrontation with revolutionary implications is emerging between the working class and the French government, backed by the entire European Union (EU). Last week’s strike against President Emmanuel Macron’s decree privatizing the French National Railways (SNCF) shut down much of France’s mass transit. Air France workers demanding pay increases and electricity and garbage workers demanding recognition as a public service have joined striking rail workers. Students are occupying universities to protest new selection rules limiting access to a university education. These developments come amidst a broad international upsurge of the class struggle. This year has already seen major strikes by metal and auto workers in Germany, Turkey, and Eastern Europe; railway workers in Britain; and broad layers of teachers in Britain and the United States. These struggles take place under the shadow of the 50th anniversary of the French general strike of May-June 1968, the largest strike in European history. This mass mobilization of the working class shook French capitalism and the regime of General Charles de Gaulle to the core. Mass anger triggered by repression of student protests erupted into a strike of over 10 million workers, and red flags flew over factories across France. Two factors saved de Gaulle. The first was the counterrevolutionary role of the Stalinist French Communist Party (PCF), then the leading party in the working class. It organized a return to work in exchange for wage increases, demoralizing workers by its betrayal of the revolutionary situation and allowing the Gaullists to win the 1969 elections. The second factor was that the strike erupted at the height of the 1945-1975 post-war boom. The bourgeoisie had resources to make concessions, buy time and prepare its response. It went on to decimate French manufacturing industries and implement policies of mass unemployment and austerity. There will be no reformist outcome to the class struggle today. The crisis of world capitalism is far deeper than 50 years ago. The quarter century since the Stalinist bureaucracy’s dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the foundation of the EU in 1992 has seen deepening social inequality and an escalating imperialist war drive across the Middle East, Africa and Eurasia. Macron will not retreat. The French ruling class is drastically restructuring class relations to join in the imperialist scramble to re-divide the world. As the major European powers all rearm, Macron has pledged to spend €300 billion on a military build-up by 2024, restore the draft, and hand billions of euros in tax cuts to the rich. He plans to slash state spending and basic social services—including pensions, public health care, and unemployment insurance—to finance the military machine. Workers can only oppose the moves to turn France into a militarized police state by a revolutionary struggle to bring down the Macron government and mobilize the working class in France and across Europe in a struggle for state power. This struggle sharply poses the need to build a new revolutionary leadership in the working class. Since 1968, the working class has had vast experiences with the organizations that falsely claimed to speak for socialism. The PCF was destroyed by its role in 1968 and its support for the dissolution of the USSR in 1991. The Socialist Party (PS), founded in 1969, proved itself to be a reactionary bourgeois party of austerity and war, from which Macron himself emerged. As for the petty bourgeois descendants of various renegades from Trotskyism, which played a key role in setting up the PS—Lutte ouvrière, the Pabloite New Anticapitalist Party (NPA), or the lambertiste Independent Democratic Workers Party—they speak for privileged layers of the upper-middle class. Workers are increasingly aware of their hostility to these groups. Protesters threw ex-lambertiste and ex-PS senator Jean-Luc Mélenchon out of one recent demonstration, shouting, “Leave, Mélenchon”, “Out with the PS”, “Hey you Senator, you did all the dirty deals” and “Neither God, nor master, nor Mélenchon.” To contain the class struggle, the NPA is proposing an alliance stretching from the PS and the unions to the pseudo-left: “The path that is open can be extended to weave a united front bringing together unions, parties and associations of the social movement around common demands, a front with a long-term perspective for a broad convergence, for a general strike to make Macron retreat.” This is cynical double-talk. Workers are not moving in the direction of a general strike to make a reactionary politician “retreat,” but to force him out. The NPA, moreover, is promoting a broad alliance of parties and unions that have helped implement the austerity policies Macron is now aiming at the workers. If one translated the NPA’s statement into plain English, it would say: “We are betraying you.” The NPA and its allies play a carefully rehearsed role, to wear down opposition to militarism and austerity and allow Macron’s policies to pass. The unions are calling rotating transit strikes two days a week, until June. These will inconvenience and irritate the public, while leaving Macron in power and allowing him to wait for the end of the strike to announce the promulgation of his decree privatizing the SNCF, which he was negotiating with the unions only last month. There is nothing for workers to negotiate with Macron. His policy is illegitimate and anti-democratic. In 2016, the unions negotiated the PS labour law that provides the basic framework for Macron’s decree and allows the unions and employers together to suspend the protections of the Labour Code and attack wages and conditions. The law was passed without a vote in parliament, using emergency powers, despite 70 percent popular opposition. President François Hollande’s PS government violently repressed mass protests against the labour law during the state of emergency. This state of emergency was itself a political fraud, imposed in response to attacks carried out by Islamist networks that were in fact working under the protection of the intelligence services, as they helped wage NATO’s proxy war in Syria. Macron was elected by default last year. Faced with the choice between the ex-banker and the unpopular neo-fascist candidate Marine Le Pen, less than half of voters participated in the legislative elections that gave Macron’s party a majority. Nonetheless, the parliament voted an enabling act adding vast powers to the PS labour law allowing Macron to slash working conditions by decree. Under this legislation, the unions have already approved contracts facilitating job cuts in auto and sub-minimum wages in the chemical industry. The revolutionary struggles developing against Macron will inevitably bring workers into conflict with the parties of what has passed for the post-1968 “left.” This underscores the significance of the foundation in 2016 of the Parti de l’égalité socialiste (PES), the French section of the International Committee of the Fourth International (ICFI). It re-established the presence of Trotskyism in France, fighting for the revolutionary mobilization of the working class against the pseudo-left and all the capitalist parties. As the union bureaucracies openly participate in implementing austerity, the PES calls for the formation of rank-and-file organizations in workplaces, schools and working-class communities across France. These are critical to provide workers and youth with forums to discuss and organize opposition to the social attacks and war plans of the entire political establishment. The PES will fight to connect the growth of rank-and-file organizations and of the class struggle to an internationalist, socialist and anti-war movement in the European and international working class to take state power and reorganize economic life on the basis of social need, not private profit. It appeals to workers and youth entering into struggle to support the PES and the ICFI, study its programme, and make the decision to join and build the Trotskyist movement. Alex Lantier WSWS.ORG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Apr 7 12:50:04 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:50:04 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] U of I request for $681 million in state aid Message-ID: * I TherClassified * Jobs * Shop * Weekly Ads Home » News » Local UI requests $681 million in state aid Fri, 04/06/2018 - 7:00am | Tom Kacich [UI appropriations request.jpg] Photo by: Tom Kacich/The News-Gazette University of Illinois officials including President Tim Killeen, right, and Chancellor Robert Jones, second from right, prepare to address members of the Illinois Senate Appropriations Committee on Thursday, April 5, 2018, at the Illinois Capitol in Springfield. Other Related Content * UI admin tells state senators of Texas schools' faculty-poaching fund [http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-facebook.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/32-twitter.png][http://www.news-gazette.com/sites/all/themes/custom/ng_fbg/images/print.png] SPRINGFIELD — University of Illinois officials say they want to increase the institution's enrollment, maintain a tuition freeze and a high level of in-state undergraduate students, and boost financial aid. But doing so will require an increase in state aid, they said. The university made its annual appearance before the state Senate Appropriations Committee on Thursday, making the case for a $681 million budget request that is 5 percent greater than the amount two years ago. The committee took no vote on the request, nor that of any other agency that appeared at Thursday's hearing. Senators said privately that budget talks haven't even begun, although the scheduled end of the legislative session is less than two months away. UI President Tim Killeen told senators that he wants to increase the university system's enrollment, now just under 84,000, to 93,000 by 2021. Most of the enrollment growth would be at the Chicago and Springfield campuses, he said. "It's a mix of things. At Urbana, we'd be strongly propelling the distance education, the online components," he explained after the hearing. "We'd also be looking at professional master's programs at Urbana since the undergraduate classes are close to capacity." At the UI-Chicago, he said, enrollment is more than 30,000 and can grow larger. "What I want to emphasize is that we have a plan, we're following it and we're on track," Killeen said. UI Vice President Wilson said the freshman class at the Urbana campus "is about as big as it can be right now, because everybody has to live in the residence halls, and there are capacity issues there as well as concerns about whether you can get the classes you need to graduate. They're about tapped out on the freshman level, but they can bring in more transfer students." Killeen also said that the UI will continue a tuition freeze for in-state undergraduates for the fourth consecutive year next fall and that he would like to extend it at least two years beyond that. "We're very proud of our tuition freeze. That was not an easy thing to do in the last few years as you might imagine. We want to maintain that and our commitment to affordability," he said. Wilson said that 80 percent of UI undergraduates are Illinois residents. At the Urbana campus, 74 percent of undergrads are from Illinois, and that percentage is much higher than at other Big Ten schools, she said. Wisconsin's in-state level is 57 percent, Michigan's is 51 percent and the Big Ten average is 62 percent. "We want to convey that we have a very strong commitment to Illinois families," she said. The UI's budget request also includes $10 million more for student financial aid, Killeen said. "Affordability is clearly a major problem," he said, connecting the tuition freeze to the budget request, "because we need reliable financial support from the state to do that." The hearing was much less contentious that UI budget sessions in past years. "I think it's fair to give the U of I credit for undertaking what is clearly an intentional path in recent years to bring more in-state students to the Urbana campus," said state Sen. Chapin Rose, R-Mahomet, a member of the committee. "And also attempting to get a handle on the tuition issues. They've now demonstrated several years of commitment to both of those." Also Thursday: — Killeen said he believes UI fund-raising for the new Carle College of Medicine on the Urbana campus "will be successful." He also said that funding for the federal National Institutes of Health is budgeted for a $3 billion increase, "and we are perfectly positioned right now with our amazing Chicago medical school and now this new medical school in Urbana-Champaign ... to go after those new dollars." Rose said fundraising for the engineering-based med school was only 10 percent of what it is supposed to be, but after talking with UI administrators Wednesday, he is convinced "it's back on track. Clearly it got off the track." — Killeen said he favors having "20 to 30 years" to enact the pension-cost shift that Gov. Bruce Rauner proposed to implement over four years. Under Rauner's plan, universities would be responsible for picking up the cost of employee pensions rather than the state government, as is the policy now. "If it's abrupt, it's very disruptive," Killeen said. "I'd start at 20 (years). It's got to be sufficiently long for us to plan around and to be realistic and not to come on the backs of our current students or next year's students." — Urbana campus Chancellor Robert Jones said a Division 1 hockey program is a "quite viable" opportunity if the university athletic program was to expand. But it is "largely dependent upon philanthropic support," he said. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuartnlevy at gmail.com Sat Apr 7 14:19:18 2018 From: stuartnlevy at gmail.com (Stuart Levy) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 09:19:18 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Let's say *No* AWARE demonstration today - next Sat instead, 4/14 Message-ID: Though today is the first Saturday of the month, the forecast calls for it to be pretty windy, as well as cold. Proposing: let's *postpone* the monthly AWARE demonstration for one week, to April 14th, next Saturday at the usual 2-4pm time. Karen M. points out that the Boneyard arts festival will be going on next Saturday.   This might bring more passersby than usual.   Maybe we can try to do something different for next week. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 8 10:29:19 2018 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 10:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Where's the outrage about Israeli live fire against Palestinian protesters? References: <474907295.364972.1523183359964.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <474907295.364972.1523183359964@mail.yahoo.com> Typical of Peace-Discuss, there's the deafening silence when it comes to mentioning Israeli crimes (except Prof Boyle) against the Palestinian people.Live fire against protesters is their first option, with journalists and youth in their sites.This campus' Zionist lobby is very effective in contributing to the obscuring of the stench of discrimination and death in Palestine. The MSM complies as well as Peace-Discuss.Land Day / Nakba ....they cannot let it be spread the reasons and goals... behind these historic protests.What is Palestinian 'Land Day' and why is Israel worried? | | | | | | | | | | | What is Palestinian 'Land Day' and why is Israel worried? 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Apr 8 12:23:54 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 12:23:54 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Gun Debate A Narrow Opportunity for Democrats, A Wide One for the Left Message-ID: Gun Debate A Narrow Opportunity For Democrats, A Wide One For the Left Bruce A. Dixon, BAR managing editor 29 Mar 2018 [https://blackagendareport.com/themes/newsclick/assets/images/facebook.png] [https://blackagendareport.com/themes/newsclick/assets/images/twitter.png] [https://blackagendareport.com/themes/newsclick/assets/images/mail.png] [Gun Debate A Narrow Opportunity For Democrats, A Wide One For the Left] March For Our Lives, Atlanta GA Last weekend the March For Our Lives mobilized half a million on the DC mall and a few hundred thousand more combined in dozens of cities across the US. Lyft donated a million free rides to marchers, and a long list of celebrity endorsers wrote checks and cut spots. Broadcast and cable media gave free plugs letting people know where local actions were, and how to donate online. Former president Obama, who scorned the young people in the streets after the police murder of Freddie Gray warmly praised the young protesters against gun violence in Florida as ‘leading the way for all of us.” It’s not hard to see the hand of the Democratic party behind the tens of millions in corporate contributions and free media accorded the March For Our Lives mobilization. 2018 is a midterm election year, and November is only seven months away. The Democrats urgently need some big sticks with which to beat out the vote this fall, some issues that utterly discredit their foes without burning them as well. Being a party of capital themselves, Democrats have to be pretty picky. After 8 recent years in the White House, Democrats are just as deeply implicated in the continuing housing crisis as Republicans, and eually committed to keeping the entire class of too big to fail or jail financial predators in business. So Democrats can make jokes about Ben Carson, but the continuing housing crisis as a 2018 campaign issue is off the table. Democrats can’t talk much about healht care either. Obamacare was a fraudulent faux-reform written bu big insurance that helped only a fraction of those in need. Health care costs remain a leading cause of family bankrupticies in the US. So Democrats won’t be talking about health care this year either. Free college tuition and debt forgiveness for student loans? Nope. Lots of liberal Dems like Atlanta’s John Lewis will tell you that free stuff is just plain un-American. A dozen or two other countries may do that free tuition stuff, but not here. France, whose military parades Trump admires even has universal free preschool starting from age 3, and low-cost municipal daycare from the age of 3 months. You’d think the pink pussy hat brigade would be all over that. But no, only the most leftish Democrats politicians embrace free tuition, but only for public colleges, and none of them want to forgive student debt. Even Bernie Sanders would simply refinance it. So Democrats don’t want to lead a movement for free tuition in 2018. Though Democrats enjoy ridiculing Betsey DeVos it’s really hard to distinguish Republican from Democrat policies on public education apart with the naked eye. President Obama’s Race To The Top program spent $4.1 billion forcing school privatizations upon inner cities, something Trump cannot possibly match, resulting in the closing of thousands of inner city schools and the firing of hundreds of thousands of experienced and disproportionately black teachers. Parents always want a better education for their children. But the Democrats’ record of shutting down public schools in favor of charters, many of whose operators are now big campaign contributors are wildly unpopular everywhere they’ve been implemented. So that won’t be a campaign issue either. During the Obama era, Democrats approved a multi-trillion dollar upgrade of the US nuclear arsenal, and deployed neo-nazis to engineer a coup in Ukraine, a country bordering Russia with a large Russian speaking population. Given that Nazis killed 25 million Russians in the last world war, Democrats have a hard time condemning Trump for ratcheting up tensions with the Kremlin. Every US president since Truman has threatened to nuke North Korea, so Democrats don’t look much better than Repubs there either, and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are pretty much the property of both capitalist parties as well. Almost all the obvious campaign issues against Republicans would be obvious campaign issues against Democrats as well, if the US political and media systems permitted publicity and ballot access for non-capitalist parties. The latest cohort of black mayors in places like Newark NJ and Jackson MS, despite having leaned upon revolutionary cred to get elected are proving unwilling or unable to rein in gentrifiers or killer cops in their cities, so that’s not a campaign issue Democrats can get elected on either. And Democrats haven't talked about poverty or falling wages in a generation or two. Our friends at the World Socialist Web Site reported in a 3 part series at the beginning of March, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the party’s bagman for disbursing corporate largesse to candidates is backing almost two dozen former military, intelligence and homeland security officers as congressional candidates this year. So we won’t hear Democrats talking about the vast network of drone bases the US has deployed across the African continent, or what Uncle Sam’s death squads and torturers are up to in law-free zones from Guantanamo to Diego Garcia, or exactly which the criteria Homeland Security’s secret “race paper” recommends for identifying so-called “black identity extremists.” Given all the issues that are off the table, Democratic strategists probably view the public uproar over the Las Vegas massacre and the continued persistence of school shootings as a gift from heaven or hell. They offer a small area where there are discernible differences between the two capitalist parties. But Democrats and their media mouthpieces have to be careful. They have to contain and limit the discussion to legal remedies, banning bump stocks and assault weapons, taking more guns from domestic abusers (except cops and the military of course) and the kind of no-fly-no-buy crap for which several members of the Congressional Black Caucus staged a brief demonstration on the House floor staged a sit-in last year. That kind of thing just might sustain a high enough level of outrage against Republicans to flip a few seats in Congress or a handful of state legislatures this fall. The trick for Democrats will be to keep the public anger high, but the discussion shallow, limited, and ahistorical. You won’t hear Rachel Maddow or anybody on CNN or TedTalks explain what Roxanne Dunbar Ortiz and Gerald Horne will tell you, that the “well regulated militia” the Second Amendment referred to was the universally armed white male population, deployed to murder and steal land from Native Americans and police the enslaved Africans. Democrats have to prevent anyone from asking, let alone answering why 70% of the guns are in the hands of white men, many of whom imagine themselves arming for a race war. Democrats can’t talk about how the Texas Rangers massacred Mexicans and Indians, when they bothered to tell the difference at all, or how the nation’s first gun control laws were prohibitions against black people and natives possessing firearms. The gun control debate will have to avoid examining how the carceral state enforces existing gun laws with the same thick layer of racist bias used for ostensibly race-blind drug laws. Democrats will have to avoid talking up the link between mass incarceration and ubiquitous stop and frisk policies, universally justified with the excuse that they’re about taking guns away from black and brown men. Democrats will have to blame mental illness or some other made-up cause for mass shooters. Their media and academics will have to keep discussion away from what the steps might look like to disarming the police, away from reducing the level of violence in society as a whole, and shutting down the nation’s world-leading arms industry. The left’s job is precisely the opposite. We have to raise all the other issues Democrats won't, the issues that discredit both parties from gentrificatin and housing to health care, We have to open the books and popularize the history neither Democrats nor Republicans and the bipartisan capitalist media want to bury. We have to ask and begin to answer what it would take to make the US like many other countries where most of the cops are unarmed, and how to disarm the US military as well. The current outrage over school shootings is an opportunity for us too, and it’s here, whether we’re ready or not. Bruce A. Dixon is managing editor at Black Agenda Report and a member of the state committee of the GA Green Party. 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Typical of Peace-Discuss, there's the deafening silence when it comes to mentioning Israeli crimes (except Prof Boyle) against the Palestinian people. Live fire against protesters is their first option, with journalists and youth in their sites. This campus' Zionist lobby is very effective in contributing to the obscuring of the stench of discrimination and death in Palestine. The MSM complies as well as Peace-Discuss. Land Day / Nakba ....they cannot let it be spread the reasons and goals... behind these historic protests. What is Palestinian 'Land Day' and why is Israel worried? What is Palestinian 'Land Day' and why is Israel worried? Haaretz *** Funeral held for Palestinian journalist killed by IDF at #GreatReturnMarch Funeral held for Palestinian journalist killed by IDF at #GreatReturnMarch Hundreds gathered in Gaza City Saturday for the funeral of Palestinian journalist Yasser Murtaja, who was killed... Running from gas in Gaza: Palestinians resort to DIY protection during Great Return March (PHOTOS) Running from gas in Gaza: Palestinians resort to DIY protection during G... With plumes of smoke blanketing the Israel-Gaza border, Palestinians rallying for a second week have resorted to... _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Apr 8 13:32:49 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 13:32:49 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Where's the outrage about Israeli live fire against Palestinian protesters? In-Reply-To: <474907295.364972.1523183359964@mail.yahoo.com> References: <474907295.364972.1523183359964.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <474907295.364972.1523183359964@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: No Stephen, many of us have been discussing the atrocities committed against the Palestinians by the Israeli’s, just as we discuss the atrocities committed against the other 8 nations our government is destroying. We just don’t bother doing it on the Peace Discuss List anymore. Some of us spend more time on FB because we can unfriend “trolls” or anti-semites using our posts for their purposes. On the Peace Discuss List, we can’t do anything about the trolls or anti-semites, with the rest of the members of the Peace Discuss community rarely making any comment or posting anything. It does make one wonder whether our postings are reaching anyone other than a “select few,” among our group of AWARE, with whom we often communicate privately. Or you maybe right, the community at large, on the Peace Discuss List, just doesn’t care. On Apr 8, 2018, at 03:29, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss > wrote: Typical of Peace-Discuss, there's the deafening silence when it comes to mentioning Israeli crimes (except Prof Boyle) against the Palestinian people. Live fire against protesters is their first option, with journalists and youth in their sites. This campus' Zionist lobby is very effective in contributing to the obscuring of the stench of discrimination and death in Palestine. The MSM complies as well as Peace-Discuss. Land Day / Nakba ....they cannot let it be spread the reasons and goals... behind these historic protests. What is Palestinian 'Land Day' and why is Israel worried? What is Palestinian 'Land Day' and why is Israel worried? 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 8 13:36:22 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 13:36:22 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?FW=3A__Stopping_Zionist_Genocide_Agains?= =?utf-8?q?t_The_Palestinians=3A_The_Boycott=2C_Divestment=2C_And_Sanction?= =?utf-8?q?s_=28BDS=29_Campaign_=E2=80=93_Countercurrents?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At least Harvard offered their Top Honcho Chair in Comparative Literature to Edward Said: RIP. By Comparison, the Campus and Community Zionists here procured the illegal firing of Steven Salaita, threw him, his wife and their baby out into the street with no visible means of support, destroyed his entire academic career, and eviscerated our Native American Studies Program that was intended to be partial reparation for Chief Illiniwak. Our Local Zionists are mean, nasty, vicious, ruthless, cruel and unprincipled people who will stop at nothing to get their Zionist Way and have absolutely no shame or remorse or guilt about it. Don’t ever forget it! fab. So I issued this appeal for divestment and disinvestment against Israel for the same reasons we had against the criminal apartheid regime in South Africa, and what was going on by Israel was far worse than that.Now I won’t go through all the history here except to say the next major development was that the President of Harvard University –where I have three degrees –the diehard Zionist Larry Summers publicly condemned those of us involved in the Harvard divestment/disinvestment campaign as anti-Semitic. What a coward! Of course Summers is a die-hard Neo-con Zionist and tried to impose his Neo-con Zionist agenda on Harvard. Indeed Harvard is so bad that my friend Edward Said was offered Harvard’s top honcho Chair in Comparative Literature and was not going to take it. So the Palestinians asked me to meet with Edward and convince him to take Harvard’s top honcho Chair in Comparative Literature. Edward had gotten his Ph.D. in Comparative Literature from Harvard.I spent an entire evening at a Chinese restaurant on the campus of Columbia University trying to convince Edward to take Harvard’s top honcho Chair in Comparative Literature .Most professors would give their right arm for any Chair at Harvard. I spent a whole evening arguing with Edward. I can be quite persuasive.I got nowhere .Finally Edward said to me that based on his personal experience at Harvard: Harvard is so anti-Palestinian that it would thwart my intellectual creativity to go to Harvard!Now think about that. Edward Said ,one of the great intellectuals in the world saying Harvard was so anti-Palestinian that it would thwart his intellectual creativity to go there.Of course Edward was right So after Summers condemned me and the rest of us as anti-Semitic, WBU Rradio station in Boston, which is the NPR affiliate in Boston, called me up and asked me would you be willing to debate Summers for one hour live on the radio with call-ins? I said sure, I’d be happy to.They then called up Summers.He refused to debate me! He did not have the courage and the integrity and the principles to debate me.Well later Harvard fired Larry Summers for imposing his Zionist Neo-con agenda even further on Harvard and his other scurrilous charge that women are dumber than men when it comes to math and science. Well as a triple Harvard alumnus I say good riddance to Larry Summers! So then WBUR asked me would you debate Dershowitz? I said sure, I’m happy to debate Dershowitz.So Dershowitz and I had this debate.It was 25 September 2002.There is still a link on there on WBUR dealing with this scurrilous charge that those of us involved in the Harvard divestment/disinvestment campaign were anti-Semitic. Dershowitz is supposed to be the best lawyer the Zionists have to offer. I clobbered him.It was so bad that during the debate Dershowitz admitted that I was the expert on international law and human rights.Well at least Summers was smart enough not to debate me –unlike Dershowitz!By the way,Dershowitz is a war criminal.Yes, he admitted in an interview he gave to Law Professor Ali Khan that he was a member of a Mossad Committee that approved the murder and assassination of Palestinians.The murder and assassination of Palestinians violates the Geneva Conventions.It is a war crime.So the next time you see Dershowitz up there on TV just remember:One, I clobbered him; and two, he is a warcriminal.Our WBUR debate on 25 September 2002 is the best debate out there refuting scurrilous charges that people involved in the BDS Campaign are anti-Semitic. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 10:29 AM To: Killeacle Subject: Stopping Zionist Genocide Against The Palestinians: The Boycott, Divestment, And Sanctions (BDS) Campaign – Countercurrents Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 9:35 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Stopping Zionist Genocide Against The Palestinians: The Boycott, Divestment, And Sanctions (BDS) Campaign – Countercurrents [https://countercurrents.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/bds.jpg] Stopping Zionist Genocide Against The Palestinians: The Boycott, Divestment, And Sanctions (BDS) Campaign – Countercurrents Palestinians have been victims ofgenocide as defined by the 1948 Genocide Convention since the founding of theState of Israel. I say that because of my practical experience. I single-handedly won two World Court Orders for the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina against Yugoslavia (both Serbia and Montenegro)to cease and desist from committing all acts of genocide against the Republic[Read More...] https://countercurrents.org/2018/04/06/stopping-zionist-genocide-against-the-palestinians-the-boycott-divestment-and-sanctions-bds-campaign/ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 8 15:04:38 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 15:04:38 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: SNYT:GENOCIDER Madeleine Albright/ Legal Protection Of Children In Armed Conflict: The Iraqi Children Genocide By Francis A. Boyle Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 10:04 AM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: SNYT:GENOCIDER Madeleine Albright/ Legal Protection Of Children In Armed Conflict: The Iraqi Children Genocide By Francis A. Boyle Despite my best professional efforts working on behalf of my Clients pro bono publico, the grossly hypocritical United Nations Organization adamantly refused to act to terminate these genocidal sanctions and thus to save the dying children of Iraq. In 1995 the United Nations' own Food and Agricultural Organization (FAO) Report estimated that these genocidal economic sanctions against Iraq had by then killed about 560,000 Iraqi children since when they were first imposed in 1990.[2] In specific regard to these murdered Iraqi children, then U.S. Secretary of State Madeline Albright, was interviewed on the CBS Television Network on 12 May 1996 by correspondent Leslie Stahl. The transcript of this interview provided by CBS News itself reads as follows: Stahl: (Voiceover) If the Iraqi people place any blame on Saddam Hussein, they're afraid to say so. And there is no longer much hope that the sanctions will inspire the people to rise up and topple the government. Now people are just trying to get by because one of the side effects of the sanctions has been inflation, which has jumped as high as 3,000 percent. To make ends meet, Iraqis are selling everything they can. Flea markets have sprung up on the streets, where families can sell their furniture, clothes, anything they can to make a few extra dinars. Most Iraqis are suffering We have heard that a half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died when-wh-in-in Hiroshima. And-and, you know, is the price worth it? Ambassador Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price - we think the price is worth it. This shocking and revolting statement made by the U.S. Secretary of State provided proof positive of the genocidal intent by the United States Government against Iraq and its children and its people as defined by and in violation of Genocide Convention Article II: "In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group, as such. . . ." Certainly a half-million dead Iraqi children that the U.S. Secretary of State specifically intended to destroy as such, and did indeed destroy as such, constituted a very important "part" of the Iraqi people. These half-million dead children were the very future of the people and state of Iraq. This Albright statement is what criminal lawyers call a classic "Admission Against Interest." This Statement by the then sitting U.S. Secretary of State, acting within the scope of her official duties and speaking in the name of the United States government, could be taken to the International Court of Justice in The Hague and filed to prove that the United States of America possessed the required mens rea (criminal intent) necessary to commit the international crime of genocide. Under both international law and U.S. domestic law, to be guilty of a crime a person or a state must possess the requisite mens rea at the same time that he or she or it commits the criminal act (actus reus). Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 8:36 AM To: Killeacle > Subject: Legal Protection Of Children In Armed Conflict: The Iraqi Children Genocide By Francis A. Boyle https://shar.es/1EhSNY This message was sent using ShareThis (http://www.sharethis.com) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 8 15:46:26 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 15:46:26 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Dirty Dersh Coming to UIUC April 26 Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu] Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 7:25 AM To: Killeacle Subject: FW: Dershowitz Retires from Harvard Law School Alan Dershowitz Retires From Harvard Law School By Francis Boyle 21 December, 2013 Countercurrents.org Alan Dershowitz, a prominent advocate for Israel, is retiring from Harvard Law School. Dershowitz Accused of War Crimes - On one issue-the Jewish settlements in the occupied lands-Israel has {already} been found, by an international court, to be in violation of international law. This has caused a firestorm of reaction from Israel, and its apologists, like Harvard's Alan Dershowitz. But, Francis Boyle and a number of other American human rights advocates have taken on Dershowitz on, and are ready to do it again. The settlements are "clearly illegal and criminal," said Boyle. "All the settlements, as the World Court ruled in the advisory opinion on the [Separation] Wall, all these settlements violate the Fourth Geneva Convention, and a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention is a war crime. All these so-called settlers are committing war crimes, except the children, who are obviously not old enough to formulate a criminal intent. "Indeed, Alan Dershowitz began attacking the World Court for this ruling and attacking their credibility, and this, that, and the other. "Well, Dershowitz is not a trained international lawyer; he's not a trained human rights lawyer. I debated him once, and he sort of gratuitously conceded that I was the expert on these subjects. "But in any event, what Dershowitz was not aware of, was that in the advisory committee proceedings, the American judge, Thomas Buergenthal, {who is a Holocaust survivor, himself}, joined the ruling-he dissented against a lot of other things by the World Court [International Court of Justice]-but Judge Buergenthal ruled that the settlements violate the Fourth Geneva Convention. And to Judge Buergenthal's credit-I've known him for many years; I have a lot of respect and admiration for him-he made this ruling. "So, in other words, Dershowitz was attacking the integrity of a Holocaust survivor. But of course, that doesn't surprise me: He attacked [Prof.] Norman Finkelstein's mother; he also attacked Prof. Israel Shahak, one of the leaders of the peace movement in Israel, himself a Holocaust survivor, unfortunately, no longer with us, but a great man. "I've dealt with [Shahak], I have great respect, and indeed, he was going to have a lecture tour here in the United States, in, I guess, the Fall of 1990, and he was coming to speak in Champaign, [Ill.], and the organizers of his lecture tour asked me if I would put him up in my home as my guest, in order to conserve on expenses, and I agreed. And I was greatly looking forward again to meeting Professor Shahak.... But as you know, with the Gulf crisis, Professor Shahak decided to cancel his lecture tour and stay home with his own people, which was certainly understandable. "Dershowitz couldn't care less. Whatever kind of outright character assassination he has to apply to anyone, even Holocaust survivors like Judge Buergenthal, Professor Shahak, Norman Finkelstein's mother, it doesn't bother Dershowitz. Indeed, my understanding is, he's trying to run to become President of Israel, to take Peres's place. Well, fine, it would be great to get him out of Harvard Law School-my dis-alma mater!-and ship him over to Israel with all the other war criminals over there. "In fact, I say that, because Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. "You can find that article on counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan. Well, the Palestinians are all protected persons under the Fourth Geneva Convention, and for Dershowitz to authorize their murder is a war crime. So, Dershowitz is a {prima facie} war criminal, who should be prosecuted himself. "And there he is, teaching at the Harvard Law School, and advocating torture, crimes against humanity, war crimes against the Palestinians. As you know, he said, `Well, we should just be obliterating their villages. You know, if they do this, there's a terror bombing here, we [should] destroy one of their villages.' "And, of course, Dershowitz also advocates torture here, in America. The guy's shameless. "I remember, [when] I started [at Harvard], Dershowitz started as an assistant professor, and his first big case was defending a pornographic film star in `Deep Throat.' Dershowitz likes to present himself as some great defender of the First Amendment.... Well, as Catherine McKinnon has, I think, taught us all, pornography is a form of violence against women: It's a human rights matter. So, it doesn't surprise me that Dershowitz started his career defending pornographers and pornography, and was and still is greatly proud of it-and now he moves on to defending war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide, and in addition, over the years, became a war criminal himself. "But the sum of it is, he's still teaching there at Harvard Law School. So, I hope he goes back to Israel and becomes President, sure! Be great to see him go: Bon voyage." Professor Francis A. Boyle is an international law expert and served as Legal Advisor to the Palestine Liberation Organization and Yasser Arafat on the 1988 Palestinian Declaration of Independence, as well as to the Palestinian Delegation to the Middle East Peace Negotiations from 1991 to 1993, where he drafted the Palestinian counter-offer to the now defunct Oslo Agreement. His books include " Palestine, Palestinians and International Law" (2003), and " The Palestinian Right of Return under International Law" (2010). ________________________________ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 6:16 PM To: Killeacle Subject: Dershowitz Retires from Harvard Law School News Alan Dershowitz Retires From Harvard Law School CounterCurrents.org Professor Francis A. 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In-Reply-To: References: <474907295.364972.1523183359964.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <474907295.364972.1523183359964@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1108238909.438864.1523208131108@mail.yahoo.com> In all the years that I've followed Peace-Discuss I've never seen a reference to Nakba or the Land Day.....they are taboo subjects to avoided at all costs because they strike at the legitimization of Israel itself...this cannot be allowed by Zionists and their supporters. .... and Peace-Discuss On Sunday, April 8, 2018, 7:32:51 AM CST, Karen Aram wrote: No Stephen, many of us have been discussing the atrocities committed against the Palestinians by the Israeli’s, just as we discuss the atrocities committed against the other 8 nations our government is destroying. We just don’t bother doing it on the Peace Discuss List anymore. Some of us spend more time on FB because we can unfriend “trolls” or anti-semites using our posts for their purposes.On the Peace Discuss List, we can’t do anything about the trolls or anti-semites, with the rest of the members of the Peace Discuss community rarely making any comment or posting anything. It does make one wonder whether our postings are reaching anyone other than a “select few,” among our group of AWARE, with whom we often  communicate privately. Or you maybe right, the community at large, on the Peace Discuss List, just doesn’t care. On Apr 8, 2018, at 03:29, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote: Typical of Peace-Discuss, there's the deafening silence when it comes to mentioning Israeli crimes (except Prof Boyle) against the Palestinian people.Live fire against protesters is their first option, with journalists and youth in their sites.This campus' Zionist lobby is very effective in contributing to the obscuring of the stench of discrimination and death in Palestine. The MSM complies as well as Peace-Discuss.Land Day / Nakba ....they cannot let it be spread the reasons and goals... behind these historic protests.What is Palestinian 'Land Day' and why is Israel worried? | | | | | | | | | | | What is Palestinian 'Land Day' and why is Israel worried? Haaretz *** | | | Funeral held for Palestinian journalist killed by IDF at #GreatReturnMarch | | | | | | | | | | | Funeral held for Palestinian journalist killed by IDF at #GreatReturnMarch Hundreds gathered in Gaza City Saturday for the funeral of Palestinian journalist Yasser Murtaja, who was killed... | | | Running from gas in Gaza: Palestinians resort to DIY protection during Great Return March (PHOTOS) | | | | | | | | | | | Running from gas in Gaza: Palestinians resort to DIY protection during G... With plumes of smoke blanketing the Israel-Gaza border, Palestinians rallying for a second week have resorted to... | | | _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 8 19:04:01 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 19:04:01 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo v Dirty Dersh at UIUC April 26 playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" Message-ID: This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. It does not surprise me at all that these rotten, corrupt, despicable, perverted and unprincipled Sponsoring Organizations would invite a notorious torture-mongerer against Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color as well as a War Criminal against Palestinians as well as an alleged Sexual Abuser of at least one Girl onto this Campus in order to poison and pollute and pervert our Good Community. Trifecta! Last I read this girl is being represented against Dirty Dersh by the David Boies Law Firm. In any event, I certainly do hope that when Dirty Dersh arrives on April 26 for all his speaking engagements that the #MeToo Movement and all People of Good Faith and Good Will in this Community will confront and grill Dirty Dersh about what he was doing on all those Trips to and Rampaging around Epstein’s Orgy Island surrounded by Underage Girls and Prostitutes and the legal action currently pending against him by one of those girls who is being represented by Davis Boies and his Law Firm. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Francis Boyle via YouTube [mailto:noreply at youtube.com] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 1:37 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: Francis Boyle sent you a playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" [https://www.gstatic.com/youtube/img/branding/youtubelogo/1x/youtubelogo_50.png] [https://yt3.ggpht.com/-w4phvYGWivc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/_Vq2X19VNEk/s50-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg] Francis Boyle has shared a video playlist with you on YouTube [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z6JmkAlrZic/hqdefault.jpg] 4 videos [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t6-XN5pWCs4/mqdefault.jpg] [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ae8doqLexD0/mqdefault.jpg] [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/r-rn6wkPGzQ/mqdefault.jpg] Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal PLAYLIST by The Ring of Fire The Jeffrey Epstein / Alan Dershowitz child sex scandal has mainly fallen through the cracks of mainstream media’s attention, but the story has the potential to become the Bill Cosby scandal on steroids. Help center • Report spam ©2018 YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 8 19:25:32 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 19:25:32 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] PS: #MeToo v Dirty Dersh at UIUC April 26 playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" Message-ID: Dirty Dersh did publicly admit that he had at least one massage at Epstein’s Orgy Island—but with his underpants on. LOL! Say, how about if People wear some Tighty Whities on their heads for all of his events including the lecture at Foelinger Auditorium? fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 2:04 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: #MeToo v Dirty Dersh at UIUC April 26 playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. It does not surprise me at all that these rotten, corrupt, despicable, perverted and unprincipled Sponsoring Organizations would invite a notorious torture-mongerer against Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color as well as a War Criminal against Palestinians as well as an alleged Sexual Abuser of at least one Girl onto this Campus in order to poison and pollute and pervert our Good Community. Trifecta! Last I read this girl is being represented against Dirty Dersh by the David Boies Law Firm. In any event, I certainly do hope that when Dirty Dersh arrives on April 26 for all his speaking engagements that the #MeToo Movement and all People of Good Faith and Good Will in this Community will confront and grill Dirty Dersh about what he was doing on all those Trips to and Rampaging around Epstein’s Orgy Island surrounded by Underage Girls and Prostitutes and the legal action currently pending against him by one of those girls who is being represented by Davis Boies and his Law Firm. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Francis Boyle via YouTube [mailto:noreply at youtube.com] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 1:37 PM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Francis Boyle sent you a playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" [https://www.gstatic.com/youtube/img/branding/youtubelogo/1x/youtubelogo_50.png] [https://yt3.ggpht.com/-w4phvYGWivc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/_Vq2X19VNEk/s50-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg] Francis Boyle has shared a video playlist with you on YouTube [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z6JmkAlrZic/hqdefault.jpg] 4 videos [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t6-XN5pWCs4/mqdefault.jpg] [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ae8doqLexD0/mqdefault.jpg] [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/r-rn6wkPGzQ/mqdefault.jpg] Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal PLAYLIST by The Ring of Fire The Jeffrey Epstein / Alan Dershowitz child sex scandal has mainly fallen through the cracks of mainstream media’s attention, but the story has the potential to become the Bill Cosby scandal on steroids. Help center • Report spam ©2018 YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 8 20:38:16 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 20:38:16 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo v Dirty Dersh at UIUC April 26 playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. For the record, a previous Rabbi at Hillel on Campus filed a Complaint with the Dean of the Law School that I be sanctioned. The Dean should have politely told the Rabbi to take a hike. But since the Dean was Jewish, he informed the Rabbi and me that he was opening a formal investigation into the Rabbi’s Complaint. I did not respond to either of them. After two weeks the Dean informed the two of us that he was not going to do anything about the Complaint against me by the UIUC Hillel Rabbi. As I said before with respect to the despoiled Steven Salaita, His Wife and Their Baby, and our gutted Native American Studies Program, the Local Zionists are mean, nasty, vicious, ruthless, cruel and unprincipled people who will stop at nothing to get their Zionist way and have no conscience, no guilt, no remorse and no shame. Their bringing Dirty Dersh to Campus is just another example. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 2:26 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: [Peace-discuss] PS: #MeToo v Dirty Dersh at UIUC April 26 playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" Dirty Dersh did publicly admit that he had at least one massage at Epstein’s Orgy Island—but with his underpants on. LOL! Say, how about if People wear some Tighty Whities on their heads for all of his events including the lecture at Foelinger Auditorium? fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 2:04 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo v Dirty Dersh at UIUC April 26 playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. It does not surprise me at all that these rotten, corrupt, despicable, perverted and unprincipled Sponsoring Organizations would invite a notorious torture-mongerer against Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color as well as a War Criminal against Palestinians as well as an alleged Sexual Abuser of at least one Girl onto this Campus in order to poison and pollute and pervert our Good Community. Trifecta! Last I read this girl is being represented against Dirty Dersh by the David Boies Law Firm. In any event, I certainly do hope that when Dirty Dersh arrives on April 26 for all his speaking engagements that the #MeToo Movement and all People of Good Faith and Good Will in this Community will confront and grill Dirty Dersh about what he was doing on all those Trips to and Rampaging around Epstein’s Orgy Island surrounded by Underage Girls and Prostitutes and the legal action currently pending against him by one of those girls who is being represented by Davis Boies and his Law Firm. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Francis Boyle via YouTube [mailto:noreply at youtube.com] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 1:37 PM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Francis Boyle sent you a playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" [https://www.gstatic.com/youtube/img/branding/youtubelogo/1x/youtubelogo_50.png] [https://yt3.ggpht.com/-w4phvYGWivc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/_Vq2X19VNEk/s50-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg] Francis Boyle has shared a video playlist with you on YouTube [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z6JmkAlrZic/hqdefault.jpg] 4 videos [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t6-XN5pWCs4/mqdefault.jpg] [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ae8doqLexD0/mqdefault.jpg] [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/r-rn6wkPGzQ/mqdefault.jpg] Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal PLAYLIST by The Ring of Fire The Jeffrey Epstein / Alan Dershowitz child sex scandal has mainly fallen through the cracks of mainstream media’s attention, but the story has the potential to become the Bill Cosby scandal on steroids. Help center • Report spam ©2018 YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 8 20:57:37 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 20:57:37 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo v Dirty Dersh at UIUC April 26 playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" References: Message-ID: and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois Obviously the Chabad Center considers an Alleged Child Molester Himself and Someone who Cavorts with Prostitutes and Underage Girls and Child Molestors on Epstein’s Orgy Island to be an Excellent Example of “Jewish Life” and an Outstanding Role Model for their Students to emulate. QED. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 3:38 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: #MeToo v Dirty Dersh at UIUC April 26 playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. For the record, a previous Rabbi at Hillel on Campus filed a Complaint with the Dean of the Law School that I be sanctioned. The Dean should have politely told the Rabbi to take a hike. But since the Dean was Jewish, he informed the Rabbi and me that he was opening a formal investigation into the Rabbi’s Complaint. I did not respond to either of them. After two weeks the Dean informed the two of us that he was not going to do anything about the Complaint against me by the UIUC Hillel Rabbi. As I said before with respect to the despoiled Steven Salaita, His Wife and Their Baby, and our gutted Native American Studies Program, the Local Zionists are mean, nasty, vicious, ruthless, cruel and unprincipled people who will stop at nothing to get their Zionist way and have no conscience, no guilt, no remorse and no shame. Their bringing Dirty Dersh to Campus is just another example. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 2:26 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: [Peace-discuss] PS: #MeToo v Dirty Dersh at UIUC April 26 playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" Dirty Dersh did publicly admit that he had at least one massage at Epstein’s Orgy Island—but with his underpants on. LOL! Say, how about if People wear some Tighty Whities on their heads for all of his events including the lecture at Foelinger Auditorium? fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 2:04 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo v Dirty Dersh at UIUC April 26 playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. It does not surprise me at all that these rotten, corrupt, despicable, perverted and unprincipled Sponsoring Organizations would invite a notorious torture-mongerer against Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color as well as a War Criminal against Palestinians as well as an alleged Sexual Abuser of at least one Girl onto this Campus in order to poison and pollute and pervert our Good Community. Trifecta! Last I read this girl is being represented against Dirty Dersh by the David Boies Law Firm. In any event, I certainly do hope that when Dirty Dersh arrives on April 26 for all his speaking engagements that the #MeToo Movement and all People of Good Faith and Good Will in this Community will confront and grill Dirty Dersh about what he was doing on all those Trips to and Rampaging around Epstein’s Orgy Island surrounded by Underage Girls and Prostitutes and the legal action currently pending against him by one of those girls who is being represented by Davis Boies and his Law Firm. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Francis Boyle via YouTube [mailto:noreply at youtube.com] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 1:37 PM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Francis Boyle sent you a playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" [https://www.gstatic.com/youtube/img/branding/youtubelogo/1x/youtubelogo_50.png] [https://yt3.ggpht.com/-w4phvYGWivc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/_Vq2X19VNEk/s50-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg] Francis Boyle has shared a video playlist with you on YouTube [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z6JmkAlrZic/hqdefault.jpg] 4 videos [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t6-XN5pWCs4/mqdefault.jpg] [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ae8doqLexD0/mqdefault.jpg] [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/r-rn6wkPGzQ/mqdefault.jpg] Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal PLAYLIST by The Ring of Fire The Jeffrey Epstein / Alan Dershowitz child sex scandal has mainly fallen through the cracks of mainstream media’s attention, but the story has the potential to become the Bill Cosby scandal on steroids. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 3:58 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: #MeToo v Dirty Dersh at UIUC April 26 playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois Obviously the Chabad Center considers an Alleged Child Molester Himself and Someone who Cavorts with Prostitutes and Underage Girls and Child Molestors on Epstein’s Orgy Island to be an Excellent Example of “Jewish Life” and an Outstanding Role Model for their Students to emulate. QED. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 3:38 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: #MeToo v Dirty Dersh at UIUC April 26 playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. For the record, a previous Rabbi at Hillel on Campus filed a Complaint with the Dean of the Law School that I be sanctioned. The Dean should have politely told the Rabbi to take a hike. But since the Dean was Jewish, he informed the Rabbi and me that he was opening a formal investigation into the Rabbi’s Complaint. I did not respond to either of them. After two weeks the Dean informed the two of us that he was not going to do anything about the Complaint against me by the UIUC Hillel Rabbi. As I said before with respect to the despoiled Steven Salaita, His Wife and Their Baby, and our gutted Native American Studies Program, the Local Zionists are mean, nasty, vicious, ruthless, cruel and unprincipled people who will stop at nothing to get their Zionist way and have no conscience, no guilt, no remorse and no shame. Their bringing Dirty Dersh to Campus is just another example. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 2:26 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: [Peace-discuss] PS: #MeToo v Dirty Dersh at UIUC April 26 playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" Dirty Dersh did publicly admit that he had at least one massage at Epstein’s Orgy Island—but with his underpants on. LOL! Say, how about if People wear some Tighty Whities on their heads for all of his events including the lecture at Foelinger Auditorium? fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 2:04 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo v Dirty Dersh at UIUC April 26 playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. It does not surprise me at all that these rotten, corrupt, despicable, perverted and unprincipled Sponsoring Organizations would invite a notorious torture-mongerer against Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color as well as a War Criminal against Palestinians as well as an alleged Sexual Abuser of at least one Girl onto this Campus in order to poison and pollute and pervert our Good Community. Trifecta! Last I read this girl is being represented against Dirty Dersh by the David Boies Law Firm. In any event, I certainly do hope that when Dirty Dersh arrives on April 26 for all his speaking engagements that the #MeToo Movement and all People of Good Faith and Good Will in this Community will confront and grill Dirty Dersh about what he was doing on all those Trips to and Rampaging around Epstein’s Orgy Island surrounded by Underage Girls and Prostitutes and the legal action currently pending against him by one of those girls who is being represented by Davis Boies and his Law Firm. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Francis Boyle via YouTube [mailto:noreply at youtube.com] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 1:37 PM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: Francis Boyle sent you a playlist: "Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal" [https://www.gstatic.com/youtube/img/branding/youtubelogo/1x/youtubelogo_50.png] [https://yt3.ggpht.com/-w4phvYGWivc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/_Vq2X19VNEk/s50-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg] Francis Boyle has shared a video playlist with you on YouTube [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z6JmkAlrZic/hqdefault.jpg] 4 videos [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t6-XN5pWCs4/mqdefault.jpg] [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ae8doqLexD0/mqdefault.jpg] [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/r-rn6wkPGzQ/mqdefault.jpg] Dershowitz-Epstein Scandal PLAYLIST by The Ring of Fire The Jeffrey Epstein / Alan Dershowitz child sex scandal has mainly fallen through the cracks of mainstream media’s attention, but the story has the potential to become the Bill Cosby scandal on steroids. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 7:36 PM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: Why the Russian Double-Agent Skripal Could Not Have Been Poisoned with “Novichok” | Washington's Blog http://washingtonsblog.com/2018/04/why-the-russian-double-agent-skripal-could-not-have-been-poisoned-with-novichok.html Why is this important? Washington’s Blog spoke with two experts on chemical weapons to find out if the facts on the ground bear out the claim that the military nerve agent Novichok was used. Initially, the man who drafted the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention, Francis Boyle – Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois, Champaign, with a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University – told Washington’s Blog: If this had been military grade nerve agent, the Skripals, the first responder policeman, and many others in the town of Salisbury where the Brits say it was spread around, would have been dead almost immediately. Yet Yulia is now apparently recovering. How did they get over to the park from their home when they should have been dead on the doorstep from contacting the agent on the doorknob? And, Captain Doug Rokke – former Director of the U.S. Army’s Depleted Uranium Project and an expert on chemical weapons, with a PhD in health physics – told Washington’s Blog: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Apr 9 02:00:58 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 02:00:58 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: News from Neptune recently References: Message-ID: > > https://youtu.be/ok07vUCv7xY From galliher at illinois.edu Mon Apr 9 05:36:14 2018 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 00:36:14 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: BREAKING: US denies firing missiles at Syria References: <90f9e490a860897c7155feca1.d96bbf2ab4.20180409034907.265b022199.e7275da5@mail199.atl81.rsgsv.net> Message-ID: Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: BostonGlobe.com > Date: April 8, 2018 at 10:50:00 PM CDT > To: > Subject: BREAKING: US denies firing missiles at Syria > Reply-To: BostonGlobe.com > > > > View this email in your browser > BREAKING NEWS ALERT > Missiles struck an air base in central Syria early Monday, the country's state-run news agency reported. 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URL: From rwhelbig at gmail.com Mon Apr 9 09:57:44 2018 From: rwhelbig at gmail.com (Roger Helbig) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 02:57:44 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?FW=3A_Why_the_Russian_Double-Agent_Skri?= =?utf-8?q?pal_Could_Not_Have_Been_Poisoned_with_=E2=80=9CNovichok?= =?utf-8?b?4oCdIHwgV2FzaGluZ3RvbidzIEJsb2c=?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: and these are your class of experts like Douglas Lind Rokke who you were willing to put on the stand and who could have been convicted of perjury had he done so - actually, he should have been charged for the declaration he submitted since it was not truthful and was signed subject to the penalty of perjury. Sadly, it had nothing to do with sex, so no one prosecuted him or any of the others who lied. Maybe you would have gotten disbarred! What a relief to the world that would have been. Holding you accountable for spreading lies. Roger On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 7:36 PM > To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org > Subject: Why the Russian Double-Agent Skripal Could Not Have Been Poisoned with “Novichok” | Washington's Blog > > http://washingtonsblog.com/2018/04/why-the-russian-double-agent-skripal-could-not-have-been-poisoned-with-novichok.html > Why is this important? > > Washington’s Blog spoke with two experts on chemical weapons to find out if the facts on the ground bear out the claim that the military nerve agent Novichok was used. > > Initially, the man who drafted the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention, Francis Boyle – Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois, Champaign, with a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University – told Washington’s Blog: > > > If this had been military grade nerve agent, the Skripals, the first responder policeman, and many others in the town of Salisbury where the Brits say it was spread around, would have been dead almost immediately. Yet Yulia is now apparently recovering. How did they get over to the park from their home when they should have been dead on the doorstep from contacting the agent on the doorknob? > > And, Captain Doug Rokke – former Director of the U.S. Army’s Depleted Uranium Project and an expert on chemical weapons, with a PhD in health physics – told Washington’s Blog: > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From rwhelbig at gmail.com Mon Apr 9 10:36:22 2018 From: rwhelbig at gmail.com (Roger Helbig) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 03:36:22 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria Message-ID: Much more accurate source than rant from FAB's buddy Rokke, who probably knows nothing about the incident in UK either - I think I sent this list the preliminary report on that - if not, I will. Roger ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: OPCW Public Affairs Date: Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 2:54 AM Subject: OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria [image: Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons] *For Immediate Release* OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria THE HAGUE, Netherlands — 9 April 2018 — The Director-General of Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), Ambassador Ahmet Üzümcü, expressed his grave concern in response to the alleged chemical weapons attack on 7 April in Douma, Syrian Arab Republic. The OPCW Situation Centre has been closely monitoring the incident and made a preliminary analysis of the reports of the alleged use of chemical weapons immediately after they were issued. The Fact Finding Mission (FFM) is in the process of gathering further information from all available sources to establish whether chemical weapons were used. The FFM will report its findings to States Parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention. Background The Chemical Weapons Convention comprehensively prohibits the use, development, production, stockpiling and transfer of chemical weapons. In response to persistent allegations of chemical weapon attacks in Syria, the OPCW Fact Finding Mission (FFM) was set up in 2014 “to establish facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals, reportedly chlorine, for hostile purposes in the Syrian Arab Republic”. The FFM is required to study available information relating to allegations of use of chemical weapons in Syria, including information provided by the Syrian Arab Republic and others. Since May 2014, the OPCW has deployed the FFM in numerous occasions to the Syrian Arab Republic and outside of Syria and has kept States Parties informed of its work. The FFM interviews witnesses and obtains samples and physical evidence for analysis. In 2015, the OPCW Executive Council and the UN Security Council endorsed the continual operation of the FFM. The FFM’s findings established the facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals as weapons in Syria and confirmed that chemical weapons had been used. The FFM’s findings were the basis for the work of the OPCW-UN Joint Investigative Mechanism (JIM), an independent body established by the UN Security Council (Resolution 2235, 7 August 2015). The JIM’s purpose was to identify the perpetrators of the chemical weapon attacks confirmed by the Fact Finding Mission. The JIM’s mandate expired in December 2017. As the implementing body for the Chemical Weapons Convention, the OPCW oversees the global endeavour to permanently and verifiably eliminate chemical weapons. Since the Convention’s entry into force in 1997 – and with its 192 States Parties – it is the most successful disarmament treaty eliminating an entire class of weapons of mass destruction. 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Apr 9 11:29:13 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 11:29:13 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?FW=3A_Why_the_Russian_Double-Agent_Skri?= =?utf-8?q?pal_Could_Not_Have_Been_Poisoned_with_=E2=80=9CNovichok?= =?utf-8?b?4oCdIHwgV2FzaGluZ3RvbidzIEJsb2c=?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Initially, the man who drafted the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention, Francis Boyle – Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois, Champaign, ---------------- My BWATA was passed unanimously by both Houses of the United States Congress and signed into law by President George Bush Senior. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Roger Helbig [mailto:rwhelbig at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 4:58 AM To: Boyle, Francis A ; Peace-discuss Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Why the Russian Double-Agent Skripal Could Not Have Been Poisoned with “Novichok” | Washington's Blog and these are your class of experts like Douglas Lind Rokke who you were willing to put on the stand and who could have been convicted of perjury had he done so - actually, he should have been charged for the declaration he submitted since it was not truthful and was signed subject to the penalty of perjury. Sadly, it had nothing to do with sex, so no one prosecuted him or any of the others who lied. Maybe you would have gotten disbarred! What a relief to the world that would have been. Holding you accountable for spreading lies. Roger On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 7:36 PM > To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org > Subject: Why the Russian Double-Agent Skripal Could Not Have Been > Poisoned with “Novichok” | Washington's Blog > > http://washingtonsblog.com/2018/04/why-the-russian-double-agent-skripa > l-could-not-have-been-poisoned-with-novichok.html > Why is this important? > > Washington’s Blog spoke with two experts on chemical weapons to find out if the facts on the ground bear out the claim that the military nerve agent Novichok was used. > > Initially, the man who drafted the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention, Francis Boyle – Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois, Champaign, with a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University – told Washington’s Blog: > > > If this had been military grade nerve agent, the Skripals, the first responder policeman, and many others in the town of Salisbury where the Brits say it was spread around, would have been dead almost immediately. Yet Yulia is now apparently recovering. How did they get over to the park from their home when they should have been dead on the doorstep from contacting the agent on the doorknob? > > And, Captain Doug Rokke – former Director of the U.S. Army’s Depleted Uranium Project and an expert on chemical weapons, with a PhD in health physics – told Washington’s Blog: > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Apr 9 11:53:42 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 11:53:42 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 Message-ID: https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. I really like this picture of Orgy Epstein, Dirty Dershowitz and Harvard. Just shows you that the sub silentio Motto of Harvard is: Cupiditas! As for #MeToo Dirty Dersh his Motto while travelling on Epstein's Lolita Express to and from Epstein's Orgy Island in order to cavort with underage girls, prostitutes and their Male Sexual Predators and Abusers with one of the girls alleging that #MeToo Dirty Dersh had abused her (last time I read being represented by David Boies and his law firm) is: Semper Ubi Sub Ubi! Be sure to wear your Tighty Whities for his events on April 26-on your head! Fab. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Apr 9 12:14:39 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 12:14:39 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 Message-ID: Dershowitz and Boies spar in 'an increasingly virulent war' over rape accusation By Debra Cassens Weiss Posted December 15, 2015, 7:46 am CST * * * inShare * * [Print.] Updated: Former Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz says he initially hesitated a decade ago when a friend sought his help fighting allegations that he paid underage girls to give him sexual massages. Dershowitz took the case anyway and arranged a plea deal for his client, wealthy money manager Jeffrey Epstein. Now Dershowitz is defending his own reputation after a lawsuit challenging the plea deal brought an accusation that he had sex with a woman when she was a minor, the New York Times reports. The accuser, represented by lawyer David Boies, never filed a complaint with police or a suit against Dershowitz. She testified in a suit claiming the Justice Department violated the rights of two women in Epstein's case by not allowing them to challenge the plea deal. The accusation led to "an increasingly virulent war" between Boies and Dershowitz, according to the New York Times. The woman's claims, Dershowitz has said, are "outrageous falsehoods," and two other lawyers who made the sex claim in a court filing are "villains." Those two lawyers, Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassell, alleged defamation in a suit against Dershowitz, who filed a counterclaim. "Over a five-decade career," the Times story says, "Dershowitz has represented some of America's most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson-that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost." Boies' firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, is representing the accuser pro bono in the defamation case as part of a program to assist victims of abuse, according to prior coverage by Reuters. The firm also discussed representing Dershowitz before the conflict was discovered, according to Dershowitz. He claims he wasn't made aware of the conflict until after he revealed his legal strategy to the firm. (Even if there was no attorney-client relationship formed, the firm could be disqualified if Dershowitz made confidential statements to the firm in contemplation of possible litigation, according to this post by the Faculty Lounge.) Boies responded that Dershowitz was "irresponsible" for making a conflict claim in the press without being willing to assert it in court. According to the New York Times story, the incident "was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods." Dershowitz claimed in a deposition in the defamation case that he received a phone call from a friend of the accuser, who said she was pressured to make the claim against Dershowitz and another friend of Epstein's in hopes of recovering $1 billion. Dershowitz also claims Boies privately told him he believed Dershowitz is innocent and his accuser is mistaken or confused. Dershowitz filed a court affidavit (PDF) claiming Boies told him he could not ethically continue to represent the woman if she did not withdraw her claim. The affidavit includes Dershowitz's contemporaneous notes of his conversations with Boies supporting his claims about Boies' statements. It also says that a mutual friend attended the meetings in which Boies made his comments. "Over the course of several conversations in person, over the phone, and on Skype," Dershowitz's affidavit says, "Mr. Boies repeatedly stated that he did not believe the allegations that [his client] had made against me were factually true." Boies denies making such a comment. "I never said to him that I concluded that my clients' assertions were incorrect," Boies told the Times. "I didn't say that. I didn't say anything like that." Dershowitz responded to Boies' denial in a statement to the ABA Journal. "I doubt that my friend David Boies will be willing to state under oath that he did not make the statements that I quote in my affidavit," Dershowitz said. "It's one thing to deny making them to the media. It's quite another thing to deny them under pains and penalties of perjury." Typo and missing period corrected at 9 a.m. Additional information about Dershowitz's affidavit and statement from Dershowitz added on Dec. 17. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 6:54 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. I really like this picture of Orgy Epstein, Dirty Dershowitz and Harvard. Just shows you that the sub silentio Motto of Harvard is: Cupiditas! As for #MeToo Dirty Dersh his Motto while travelling on Epstein's Lolita Express to and from Epstein's Orgy Island in order to cavort with underage girls, prostitutes and their Male Sexual Predators and Abusers with one of the girls alleging that #MeToo Dirty Dersh had abused her (last time I read being represented by David Boies and his law firm) is: Semper Ubi Sub Ubi! Be sure to wear your Tighty Whities for his events on April 26-on your head! Fab. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 7:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 Dershowitz and Boies spar in 'an increasingly virulent war' over rape accusation By Debra Cassens Weiss Posted December 15, 2015, 7:46 am CST * * * inShare * * [Print.] Updated: Former Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz says he initially hesitated a decade ago when a friend sought his help fighting allegations that he paid underage girls to give him sexual massages. Dershowitz took the case anyway and arranged a plea deal for his client, wealthy money manager Jeffrey Epstein. Now Dershowitz is defending his own reputation after a lawsuit challenging the plea deal brought an accusation that he had sex with a woman when she was a minor, the New York Times reports. The accuser, represented by lawyer David Boies, never filed a complaint with police or a suit against Dershowitz. She testified in a suit claiming the Justice Department violated the rights of two women in Epstein's case by not allowing them to challenge the plea deal. The accusation led to "an increasingly virulent war" between Boies and Dershowitz, according to the New York Times. The woman's claims, Dershowitz has said, are "outrageous falsehoods," and two other lawyers who made the sex claim in a court filing are "villains." Those two lawyers, Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassell, alleged defamation in a suit against Dershowitz, who filed a counterclaim. "Over a five-decade career," the Times story says, "Dershowitz has represented some of America's most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson-that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost." Boies' firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, is representing the accuser pro bono in the defamation case as part of a program to assist victims of abuse, according to prior coverage by Reuters. The firm also discussed representing Dershowitz before the conflict was discovered, according to Dershowitz. He claims he wasn't made aware of the conflict until after he revealed his legal strategy to the firm. (Even if there was no attorney-client relationship formed, the firm could be disqualified if Dershowitz made confidential statements to the firm in contemplation of possible litigation, according to this post by the Faculty Lounge.) Boies responded that Dershowitz was "irresponsible" for making a conflict claim in the press without being willing to assert it in court. According to the New York Times story, the incident "was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods." Dershowitz claimed in a deposition in the defamation case that he received a phone call from a friend of the accuser, who said she was pressured to make the claim against Dershowitz and another friend of Epstein's in hopes of recovering $1 billion. Dershowitz also claims Boies privately told him he believed Dershowitz is innocent and his accuser is mistaken or confused. Dershowitz filed a court affidavit (PDF) claiming Boies told him he could not ethically continue to represent the woman if she did not withdraw her claim. The affidavit includes Dershowitz's contemporaneous notes of his conversations with Boies supporting his claims about Boies' statements. It also says that a mutual friend attended the meetings in which Boies made his comments. "Over the course of several conversations in person, over the phone, and on Skype," Dershowitz's affidavit says, "Mr. Boies repeatedly stated that he did not believe the allegations that [his client] had made against me were factually true." Boies denies making such a comment. "I never said to him that I concluded that my clients' assertions were incorrect," Boies told the Times. "I didn't say that. I didn't say anything like that." Dershowitz responded to Boies' denial in a statement to the ABA Journal. "I doubt that my friend David Boies will be willing to state under oath that he did not make the statements that I quote in my affidavit," Dershowitz said. "It's one thing to deny making them to the media. It's quite another thing to deny them under pains and penalties of perjury." Typo and missing period corrected at 9 a.m. Additional information about Dershowitz's affidavit and statement from Dershowitz added on Dec. 17. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 6:54 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. I really like this picture of Orgy Epstein, Dirty Dershowitz and Harvard. Just shows you that the sub silentio Motto of Harvard is: Cupiditas! As for #MeToo Dirty Dersh his Motto while travelling on Epstein's Lolita Express to and from Epstein's Orgy Island in order to cavort with underage girls, prostitutes and their Male Sexual Predators and Abusers with one of the girls alleging that #MeToo Dirty Dersh had abused her (last time I read being represented by David Boies and his law firm) is: Semper Ubi Sub Ubi! Be sure to wear your Tighty Whities for his events on April 26-on your head! Fab. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 834 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Apr 9 12:40:58 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 12:40:58 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 Message-ID: }; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois sponsoring an alleged Rapist of a Girl and bringing him in here to poison and pollute and pervert our Good Community and hold him up as a Role Model for students to emulate. The Chabadniks should be ashamed of themselves. But of course after what they did to Steven Salaita, his wife, their baby, his career and our Native American Studies Program, the Chabadniks have no shame! fab fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 7:24 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. I think in Fairness these Sponsors should also invite Boies out here in order to tell his Client's side of whether #MeToo Dirty Dersh raped her as a girl on Epstein's Orgy Island. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 7:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 Dershowitz and Boies spar in 'an increasingly virulent war' over rape accusation By Debra Cassens Weiss Posted December 15, 2015, 7:46 am CST * * * inShare * * [Print.] Updated: Former Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz says he initially hesitated a decade ago when a friend sought his help fighting allegations that he paid underage girls to give him sexual massages. Dershowitz took the case anyway and arranged a plea deal for his client, wealthy money manager Jeffrey Epstein. Now Dershowitz is defending his own reputation after a lawsuit challenging the plea deal brought an accusation that he had sex with a woman when she was a minor, the New York Times reports. The accuser, represented by lawyer David Boies, never filed a complaint with police or a suit against Dershowitz. She testified in a suit claiming the Justice Department violated the rights of two women in Epstein's case by not allowing them to challenge the plea deal. The accusation led to "an increasingly virulent war" between Boies and Dershowitz, according to the New York Times. The woman's claims, Dershowitz has said, are "outrageous falsehoods," and two other lawyers who made the sex claim in a court filing are "villains." Those two lawyers, Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassell, alleged defamation in a suit against Dershowitz, who filed a counterclaim. "Over a five-decade career," the Times story says, "Dershowitz has represented some of America's most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson-that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost." Boies' firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, is representing the accuser pro bono in the defamation case as part of a program to assist victims of abuse, according to prior coverage by Reuters. The firm also discussed representing Dershowitz before the conflict was discovered, according to Dershowitz. He claims he wasn't made aware of the conflict until after he revealed his legal strategy to the firm. (Even if there was no attorney-client relationship formed, the firm could be disqualified if Dershowitz made confidential statements to the firm in contemplation of possible litigation, according to this post by the Faculty Lounge.) Boies responded that Dershowitz was "irresponsible" for making a conflict claim in the press without being willing to assert it in court. According to the New York Times story, the incident "was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods." Dershowitz claimed in a deposition in the defamation case that he received a phone call from a friend of the accuser, who said she was pressured to make the claim against Dershowitz and another friend of Epstein's in hopes of recovering $1 billion. Dershowitz also claims Boies privately told him he believed Dershowitz is innocent and his accuser is mistaken or confused. Dershowitz filed a court affidavit (PDF) claiming Boies told him he could not ethically continue to represent the woman if she did not withdraw her claim. The affidavit includes Dershowitz's contemporaneous notes of his conversations with Boies supporting his claims about Boies' statements. It also says that a mutual friend attended the meetings in which Boies made his comments. "Over the course of several conversations in person, over the phone, and on Skype," Dershowitz's affidavit says, "Mr. Boies repeatedly stated that he did not believe the allegations that [his client] had made against me were factually true." Boies denies making such a comment. "I never said to him that I concluded that my clients' assertions were incorrect," Boies told the Times. "I didn't say that. I didn't say anything like that." Dershowitz responded to Boies' denial in a statement to the ABA Journal. "I doubt that my friend David Boies will be willing to state under oath that he did not make the statements that I quote in my affidavit," Dershowitz said. "It's one thing to deny making them to the media. It's quite another thing to deny them under pains and penalties of perjury." Typo and missing period corrected at 9 a.m. Additional information about Dershowitz's affidavit and statement from Dershowitz added on Dec. 17. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 6:54 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. I really like this picture of Orgy Epstein, Dirty Dershowitz and Harvard. Just shows you that the sub silentio Motto of Harvard is: Cupiditas! As for #MeToo Dirty Dersh his Motto while travelling on Epstein's Lolita Express to and from Epstein's Orgy Island in order to cavort with underage girls, prostitutes and their Male Sexual Predators and Abusers with one of the girls alleging that #MeToo Dirty Dersh had abused her (last time I read being represented by David Boies and his law firm) is: Semper Ubi Sub Ubi! Be sure to wear your Tighty Whities for his events on April 26-on your head! Fab. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 834 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Apr 9 12:56:04 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 12:56:04 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Come on Roger, Counterpunch already blew your cover, as a paid USG troll. So stop it. Just because the powers that control the Peace Discuss List, find it amusing to have you provoking others and allow you to continue with your propaganda, doesn’t mean we buy it. On Apr 9, 2018, at 03:36, Roger Helbig via Peace-discuss > wrote: Much more accurate source than rant from FAB's buddy Rokke, who probably knows nothing about the incident in UK either - I think I sent this list the preliminary report on that - if not, I will. Roger ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: OPCW Public Affairs > Date: Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 2:54 AM Subject: OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria [Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons] For Immediate Release OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria THE HAGUE, Netherlands — 9 April 2018 — The Director-General of Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), Ambassador Ahmet Üzümcü, expressed his grave concern in response to the alleged chemical weapons attack on 7 April in Douma, Syrian Arab Republic. The OPCW Situation Centre has been closely monitoring the incident and made a preliminary analysis of the reports of the alleged use of chemical weapons immediately after they were issued. The Fact Finding Mission (FFM) is in the process of gathering further information from all available sources to establish whether chemical weapons were used. The FFM will report its findings to States Parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention. Background The Chemical Weapons Convention comprehensively prohibits the use, development, production, stockpiling and transfer of chemical weapons. In response to persistent allegations of chemical weapon attacks in Syria, the OPCW Fact Finding Mission (FFM) was set up in 2014 “to establish facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals, reportedly chlorine, for hostile purposes in the Syrian Arab Republic”. The FFM is required to study available information relating to allegations of use of chemical weapons in Syria, including information provided by the Syrian Arab Republic and others. Since May 2014, the OPCW has deployed the FFM in numerous occasions to the Syrian Arab Republic and outside of Syria and has kept States Parties informed of its work. The FFM interviews witnesses and obtains samples and physical evidence for analysis. In 2015, the OPCW Executive Council and the UN Security Council endorsed the continual operation of the FFM. The FFM’s findings established the facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals as weapons in Syria and confirmed that chemical weapons had been used. The FFM’s findings were the basis for the work of the OPCW-UN Joint Investigative Mechanism (JIM), an independent body established by the UN Security Council (Resolution 2235, 7 August 2015). The JIM’s purpose was to identify the perpetrators of the chemical weapon attacks confirmed by the Fact Finding Mission. The JIM’s mandate expired in December 2017. As the implementing body for the Chemical Weapons Convention, the OPCW oversees the global endeavour to permanently and verifiably eliminate chemical weapons. Since the Convention’s entry into force in 1997 – and with its 192 States Parties – it is the most successful disarmament treaty eliminating an entire class of weapons of mass destruction. Over ninety-six per cent of all chemical weapon stockpiles declared by possessor States have been destroyed under OPCW verification. For its extensive efforts in eliminating chemical weapons, the OPCW received the 2013 Nobel Prize for Peace. More Information OPCW Fact Sheets Media Inquiries OPCW Public Affairs Johan de Wittlaan 32, 2517 JR The Hague, The Netherlands + 31 70 416 32 42 public.affairs at opcw.org www.opcw.org For information only. Not an official record. 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As with previous allegations of chemical weapons’ use, the public is being inundated with unverified footage of suffering victims, while government officials and the corporate media, prior to any investigation and without any substantiation, declare the government of Bashar al-Assad and its Iranian and Russian allies to be guilty of a war crime. Within minutes, the New York Times and the Washington Post dashed out breathless articles placing the blame for the alleged attack at the feet of the Syrian and Russian governments. The Guardiandeclared in an editorial that “Syria’s renewed use of chemical weapons against its own people at the weekend is shameless and barbaric.” The current claims are no more credible than those that preceded it. The official narrative that Assad carried out a gas attack in Eastern Ghouta in 2013 was used to prepare a massive US air strike that was canceled at the last minute by the Obama administration—a retreat that earned Obama furious recriminations that continue to the present. Subsequent investigations proved that the attack was actually launched by US-backed “rebels” in conjunction with the Turkish government. The alleged gas attack that was used in April 2017 to justify the major US cruise missile assault on a Syrian air base was similarly exposed to have resulted from an air strike on a “rebel” poison gas facility. The previous pretexts for military escalation were staged by the CIA and its proxy forces in Syria. The latest provocation is no different. There is no credible evidence concerning the claimed attack in the Eastern Ghouta city of Douma, a few miles from the Syrian capital. There are video clips that prove nothing, since they could have been manufactured at any time and edited to serve the purpose. The sole on-the-spot accounts come from the White Helmets, celebrated by the media as a rescue organization, but affiliated with the anti-Assad “rebels” and largely funded by the United States, Britain, Germany and other imperialist powers. This includes $23 million from the US Agency for International Development, a longtime front for the CIA. The Trump White House has denounced the alleged atrocity, with officials making the usual warning, prior to military action, that “everything is on the table.” The US National Security Council (NSC) will convene Monday for the first time under newly appointed chief John Bolton, who played a major role in the Iraq War and has publicly advocated bombing both Iran and North Korea. The NSC will recommend military options to the president. Any such action would bring with it the imminent threat of a wider war. Both Iranian advisers and Russian military personnel are integrated with the Syrian government forces and could well be hit in any significant US military strike, triggering demands for retaliation in both countries. A wider conflict is the deliberate aim of the US military-intelligence apparatus. For a month, the world stage has been dominated by a British-American campaign against Russia, centered on the supposed poisoning of Sergei Skripal, a British spy, and his daughter Yulia, in Salisbury, England. There has been an escalating campaign of accusations, expulsions of Russian officials, and suggestions that the incident amounts to a nerve gas attack on Britain by Moscow, i.e., an act of war. Last week, however, the official narrative of Russian government poisoning collapsed. The British chemical weapons authority announced that it could not determine the source of the supposed poison and both Skripals were reported to be recovering—making nonsense of the claim that they had been poisoned by a deadly nerve gas manufactured in Russia. The new media hysteria over a poison gas attack in Syria serves to divert attention from the collapse of the Skripal provocation, while providing a fresh pretext for escalating the offensive against Russia. There is an additional reason for the focus on Syria. Over the past week, President Trump had publicly questioned continuing the US intervention in that country, given the debacles suffered by the CIA-backed Islamist forces and the consolidation of control over most of the country’s population centers by the Assad government. He initially declared that US troops would leave Syria shortly, only to reverse himself after intense pressure from the Pentagon and CIA, Congress and the media. The Douma incident has put an end to such wavering. As the New York Times noted Sunday night: “Days after President Trump said he wanted to pull the United States out of Syria, Syrian forces hit a suburb of Damascus with bombs that rescue workers said unleashed toxic gas. Within hours, images of dead families sprawled in their homes threatened to change Mr. Trump’s calculus on Syria, possibly drawing him deeper into an intractable Middle Eastern war that he hoped to leave.” The “rebel” group now holding out in Douma, Jaysh al-Islam, part of the Islamist opposition to Assad that includes the Syrian branch of Al Qaeda as well as the remnants of ISIS, has itself been credibly accused of using chlorine gas in the course of fighting against Kurdish forces and civilians in Aleppo in 2016. That charge, made by the Kurds, was given extensive publicity by Voice of America, the propaganda arm of the US government. It is possible that Syrian warplanes struck a weapons cache belonging to the rebel group, causing the gas to leak out. More likely, the poison gas was deliberately released by Jaysh al-Islam, at behest of its CIA backers, to provide a pretext for US military intervention. Assuming, that is, that the reports of poison gas exposure are not simply manufactured by the US intelligence agencies for rebroadcast by a servile media. What is least likely, from a political standpoint, is that the Assad government, just as it was on the brink of final victory in Eastern Ghouta after more than five years of bitter fighting, should suddenly unleash a poison gas attack, which would have no military value but would invite a savage response from the Trump administration and the other Western powers. A Syrian government statement pointed this out, declaring that “an army that is progressing quickly… does not need to use any kind of chemical weapons.” According to Al Jazeera and Russian news sources, Jaysh al-Islam has been so thoroughly defeated that it has struck an agreement to completely withdraw all its militia and their families from Douma over the next 48 hours or so. Russian troops will reportedly move in to take control of the city. Iran’s Foreign Ministry rebuffed the US claims of a gas attack in Douma. “Such claims and allegations by the Americans and some Western countries point to a new plot against the Syrian government and people, and are an excuse to take military action against them,” a spokesman told the press. The Russian government denounced the US campaign over the supposed gas attack as a political provocation aimed at justifying deeper US military intervention in the Syrian civil war. “The spread of bogus stories about the use of chlorine and other poisonous substances by government forces continues,” the Russian Foreign Ministry said. “We have warned several times recently against such dangerous provocations. The aim of such deceitful speculation, lacking any kind of grounding, is to shield terrorists… and to attempt to justify possible external uses of force.” The latest provocation follows a well-worn pattern, from the lies over Iraqi “weapons of mass destruction” to the present. The American intelligence agencies give the signal. Nonstop coverage is immediately launched on cable television, then demands for action are made by the White House and congressional leaders, boosted by editorials written by CIA mouthpieces such as the New York Times. The brazen lies of the media are accompanied by breathtaking hypocrisy. The Times, the Washington Post, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN and company downplay and cover up the atrocities carried out by American forces and their allies—the incineration of Mosul and Raqqa, the gunning down of demonstrators in Gaza by the Israeli military, the mass killings in Yemen carried out with US support by Saudi Arabia, even as its crown prince is feted by the US ruling elite, and the ongoing slaughter in Afghanistan. The overwhelming responsibility for the continuing carnage and suffering in Syria—as well as in Iraq, Yemen and throughout the Middle East—rests squarely with US imperialism, which has launched one war after another based on lies in an attempt to establish control over the region and its vital energy resources. 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URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Mon Apr 9 13:10:13 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 08:10:13 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: [And the hitmen of the American criminal conspiracy in Syria, the Israelis, have now killed people at an airbase near Homs.] Trump Tweets Threats To Syria, Russia, And Iran Over Chemical Attack In Syria | Jean Philippe Gibson President Donald Trump takes aim at President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, President Vladimir Putin of Russia, and President Hassan Rouhani of Iran in the aftermath of a reported chemical attack in the eastern Ghouta region of Syria. U.S. President Donald Trump took to Twitter early Sunday morning to voice his dismay of a reported chemical attack in the suburbs of Damascus in the city of Douma in eastern Ghouta in Syria. Trump issued a clear and present warning to President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, President Vladimir Putin of Russia, and President Hassan Rouhani of Iran that the three countries will have a “Big price to pay” for the chemical attack that reportedly killed 40 civilians on Saturday night. The Syrian American Medical Society and the Civil Defense (White Helmets) issued a joint statement that “more than 500 people, mostly women, and children, were brought to medical centers with difficulty breathing, foaming at the mouth, and burning of the eyes.” Trump used the occasion to take a rare public hardline stance toward Russian President Putin, as he mentioned his name and directly accredited culpability for the attack to Putin because of his support for, as Trump stated, “Animal Assad.” The timing of the reported chemical attack comes at an auspicious time, as Trump recently voiced his intent to withdraw American military forces from Syria. In March, 2018, Trump stated, “We are going to have 100% of the caliphate, as they call it, sometimes referred to as land… But we are going to be coming out of there real soon. We are going to get back to our country, where we belong, where we want to be.” The current situation will undoubtedly cause Trump to revisit his withdrawal of forces strategy. With neocon war hawk John Bolton being recently appointed to the role of National Security Advisor, one can infer that all options are on the table. Syrian President Bashar Assad driving himself through areas of eastern Ghouta. Uncredited / AP Images “Information attacks about the use of chlorine or other poisonous substances by the Syrian government troops are continuing. Another such hoax about the chemical attack that supposedly took place in Douma emerged yesterday,” the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement on Sunday. They went on to insinuate that the U.S. military is shielding terrorists as a means to attack the Assad government in Syria directly. The Russian Foreign Ministry stated, “the purpose of these false conjectures, which are without any basis, is to shield the terrorists and the irreconcilable radical opposition, which reject a political settlement while trying to justify possible military strikes from outside.” General Valery Gerasimov, the head of the Russian General Staff, warned of staged chemical attacks in eastern Ghouta to justify a direct U.S. military attack on the Syrian government’s military forces in March, 2018. General Gerasimov, was quoted in the Al-Monitor as stating the following. “We have credible information that militants are now preparing to stage the use of chemical weapons on civilians by the Syrian government forces. For this goal, the militants have brought to eastern Ghouta people, including women, children and elders, from other areas. These people have to play victims of this staged chemical attack. The White Helmets with their cameramen are already there for live broadcasts.” U.N. Secretary General António Guterres issued a statement in the wake of the chemical attack reports stating, “while the United Nations is not in a position to verify these reports, the Secretary-General notes that any use of chemical weapons, if confirmed, is abhorrent, and requires a thorough investigation.” The British government also condemned the latest chemical attack in Syria. “These are very concerning reports of a chemical weapons attack with significant number of casualties, which if correct, are further proof of Assad’s brutality against innocent civilians and his backers’ callous disregard for international norms. An urgent investigation is needed and the international community must respond,” the British Foreign Ministry stated. The statement from the British government comes four days after a retired Russian military general, Evgeny Buzhinsky, told BBC Radio 4 that the currently strained relationships between Great Britain, Russia, and the United States has reached a juncture to where “the world is on the brink of the last war in the history of mankind.” Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, Iran’s Hassan Rouhani, and Russia’s Vladimir Putin held trilateral meetings in the Turkish capital of Ankara this week to discuss the future of Syria. Russia and Iran back the Assad regime, while Turkey has invaded Syria in the Afrin region to wage war against Kurdish fighters. The Kurdish fighters battling the Islamic State are backed by the U.S. government. When a similar chemical attack in Syria was reported in April, 2017, the U.S. military launched a cruise missile attack against a Syrian government military base at the orders of President Trump. “It’s a defining moment in his presidency,” Senator Lindsey Graham, (R-South Carolina), stated of Trump in the face of the latest chemical attack. “If it becomes a tweet without meaning then he’s hurt himself with North Korea. If he doesn’t follow through and live up to that tweet he’s going to look weak in the eyes of Russia and Iran.” =============================== > On Apr 9, 2018, at 7:56 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Come on Roger, Counterpunch already blew your cover, as a paid USG troll. So stop it. Just because the powers that control the Peace Discuss List, find it amusing to have you provoking others and allow you to continue with your propaganda, doesn’t mean we buy it. > > >> On Apr 9, 2018, at 03:36, Roger Helbig via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Much more accurate source than rant from FAB's buddy Rokke, who probably knows nothing about the incident in UK either - I think I sent this list the preliminary report on that - if not, I will. >> >> Roger >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: OPCW Public Affairs >> Date: Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 2:54 AM >> Subject: OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria >> >> >> >> For Immediate Release >> >> OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria >> >> THE HAGUE, Netherlands — 9 April 2018 — The Director-General of Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), Ambassador Ahmet Üzümcü, expressed his grave concern in response to the alleged chemical weapons attack on 7 April in Douma, Syrian Arab Republic. >> The OPCW Situation Centre has been closely monitoring the incident and made a preliminary analysis of the reports of the alleged use of chemical weapons immediately after they were issued. The Fact Finding Mission (FFM) is in the process of gathering further information from all available sources to establish whether chemical weapons were used. The FFM will report its findings to States Parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention. >> >> Background >> >> The Chemical Weapons Convention comprehensively prohibits the use, development, production, stockpiling and transfer of chemical weapons. >> In response to persistent allegations of chemical weapon attacks in Syria, the OPCW Fact Finding Mission (FFM) was set up in 2014 “to establish facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals, reportedly chlorine, for hostile purposes in the Syrian Arab Republic”. The FFM is required to study available information relating to allegations of use of chemical weapons in Syria, including information provided by the Syrian Arab Republic and others. >> Since May 2014, the OPCW has deployed the FFM in numerous occasions to the Syrian Arab Republic and outside of Syria and has kept States Parties informed of its work. The FFM interviews witnesses and obtains samples and physical evidence for analysis. >> In 2015, the OPCW Executive Council and the UN Security Council endorsed the continual operation of the FFM. >> The FFM’s findings established the facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals as weapons in Syria and confirmed that chemical weapons had been used. The FFM’s findings were the basis for the work of the OPCW-UN Joint Investigative Mechanism (JIM), an independent body established by the UN Security Council (Resolution 2235, 7 August 2015). The JIM’s purpose was to identify the perpetrators of the chemical weapon attacks confirmed by the Fact Finding Mission. The JIM’s mandate expired in December 2017. >> As the implementing body for the Chemical Weapons Convention, the OPCW oversees the global endeavour to permanently and verifiably eliminate chemical weapons. Since the Convention’s entry into force in 1997 – and with its 192 States Parties – it is the most successful disarmament treaty eliminating an entire class of weapons of mass destruction. >> Over ninety-six per cent of all chemical weapon stockpiles declared by possessor States have been destroyed under OPCW verification. For its extensive efforts in eliminating chemical weapons, the OPCW received the 2013 Nobel Prize for Peace. >> >> More Information >> >> OPCW Fact Sheets >> >> Media Inquiries >> >> OPCW Public Affairs >> Johan de Wittlaan 32, 2517 JR >> The Hague, The Netherlands >> + 31 70 416 32 42 >> public.affairs at opcw.org >> www.opcw.org >> For information only. 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URL: From rwhelbig at gmail.com Mon Apr 9 13:24:54 2018 From: rwhelbig at gmail.com (Roger Helbig) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 06:24:54 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I guess if you lie about the CIA, then I expect I should be flattered if you lie about me. Not sure what you gain from spreading lies, but I guess maybe you are too old to learn anything new. I always viewed learning as a life long process and since I actually know something about chemical weapons, I have an interest in them. I also have an interest in exposing liars if they lie about me personally. Roger I have sent my full reply to Boyle to the expert quoted by ABC News, the Editor of this publication in the UK. I hope that I get a reply from him. Novichok agents, however, are unusual for their strength, Gwynn Winfield, a chemical weapons expert with the publication CBRNe World, told ABC News. He said they required much larger doses of more complicated antidotes. On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:12 AM, Karen Aram wrote: > Yeah right. > > On Apr 9, 2018, at 06:09, Roger Helbig wrote: > > Counterpunch is not exactly a truthful source and they never correct their > lies. I am not paid by anyone. I never have been paid by anyone. I got > into this because I know what I am talking about and because Rokke lied > about me and I decided to find out what else he was lying about. Sorry > that you are dumb enough to believe liars. I personally do not believe > liars of any stripe, right left or in--between. I have never lied about > anything. My insistence on truth made me into a whistleblower. A genuine > one, not one who claims to have been one. > > Roger W Helbig > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 5:56 AM, Karen Aram wrote: > >> Come on Roger, Counterpunch already blew your cover, as a paid USG troll. >> So stop it. Just because the powers that control the Peace Discuss List, >> find it amusing to have you provoking others and allow you to continue with >> your propaganda, doesn’t mean we buy it. >> >> >> On Apr 9, 2018, at 03:36, Roger Helbig via Peace-discuss < >> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: >> >> Much more accurate source than rant from FAB's buddy Rokke, who probably >> knows nothing about the incident in UK either - I think I sent this list >> the preliminary report on that - if not, I will. >> >> Roger >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: OPCW Public Affairs >> Date: Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 2:54 AM >> Subject: OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in >> Douma, Syria >> >> >> [image: Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons] >> >> >> *For Immediate Release* >> OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, >> Syria >> THE HAGUE, Netherlands — 9 April 2018 — The Director-General of >> Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), Ambassador >> Ahmet Üzümcü, expressed his grave concern in response to the alleged >> chemical weapons attack on 7 April in Douma, Syrian Arab Republic. >> >> The OPCW Situation Centre has been closely monitoring the incident and >> made a preliminary analysis of the reports of the alleged use of chemical >> weapons immediately after they were issued. The Fact Finding Mission >> (FFM) is in the process of gathering further information from all available >> sources to establish whether chemical weapons were used. The FFM will >> report its findings to States Parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention. >> Background >> The Chemical Weapons Convention comprehensively prohibits the use, >> development, production, stockpiling and transfer of chemical weapons. >> >> In response to persistent allegations of chemical weapon attacks in >> Syria, the OPCW Fact Finding Mission (FFM) was set up in 2014 “to establish >> facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals, reportedly >> chlorine, for hostile purposes in the Syrian Arab Republic”. The FFM is >> required to study available information relating to allegations of use of >> chemical weapons in Syria, including information provided by the Syrian >> Arab Republic and others. >> >> Since May 2014, the OPCW has deployed the FFM in numerous occasions to >> the Syrian Arab Republic and outside of Syria and has kept States Parties >> informed of its work. The FFM interviews witnesses and obtains samples and >> physical evidence for analysis. >> >> In 2015, the OPCW Executive Council and the UN Security Council endorsed >> the continual operation of the FFM. >> >> The FFM’s findings established the facts surrounding allegations of the >> use of toxic chemicals as weapons in Syria and confirmed that chemical >> weapons had been used. The FFM’s findings were the basis for the work of >> the OPCW-UN Joint Investigative Mechanism (JIM), an independent body >> established by the UN Security Council (Resolution 2235, 7 August 2015). >> The JIM’s purpose was to identify the perpetrators of the chemical weapon >> attacks confirmed by the Fact Finding Mission. The JIM’s mandate expired in >> December 2017. >> >> As the implementing body for the Chemical Weapons Convention, the OPCW >> oversees the global endeavour to permanently and verifiably eliminate >> chemical weapons. Since the Convention’s entry into force in 1997 – and >> with its 192 States Parties – it is the most successful disarmament treaty >> eliminating an entire class of weapons of mass destruction. >> >> Over ninety-six per cent of all chemical weapon stockpiles declared by >> possessor States have been destroyed under OPCW verification. For its >> extensive efforts in eliminating chemical weapons, the OPCW received the >> 2013 Nobel Prize for Peace. >> More Information >> >> OPCW Fact Sheets >> >> Media Inquiries >> OPCW Public Affairs >> Johan de Wittlaan 32, 2517 JR >> >> The Hague, The Netherlands >> + 31 70 416 32 42 >> public.affairs at opcw.org >> www.opcw.org >> >> >> *For information only. Not an official record.* >> >> [image: Facebook] >> [image: >> Twitter] >> [image: >> YouTube] >> [image: >> LinkedIn] >> >> Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons >> Public Affairs >> Johan de Wittlaan 32 >> >> The Hague 2517 JR >> Netherlands >> >> Like >> >> Tweet >> >> Share >> >> Forward >> >> Unsubscribe >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Apr 9 13:36:25 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 13:36:25 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So says “military intelligence”—an oxymoron to be sure. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Roger Helbig via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 8:25 AM To: Karen Aram ; Peace-discuss Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria I guess if you lie about the CIA, then I expect I should be flattered if you lie about me. Not sure what you gain from spreading lies, but I guess maybe you are too old to learn anything new. I always viewed learning as a life long process and since I actually know something about chemical weapons, I have an interest in them. I also have an interest in exposing liars if they lie about me personally. Roger I have sent my full reply to Boyle to the expert quoted by ABC News, the Editor of this publication in the UK. I hope that I get a reply from him. Novichok agents, however, are unusual for their strength, Gwynn Winfield, a chemical weapons expert with the publication CBRNe World, told ABC News. He said they required much larger doses of more complicated antidotes. On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:12 AM, Karen Aram > wrote: Yeah right. On Apr 9, 2018, at 06:09, Roger Helbig > wrote: Counterpunch is not exactly a truthful source and they never correct their lies. I am not paid by anyone. I never have been paid by anyone. I got into this because I know what I am talking about and because Rokke lied about me and I decided to find out what else he was lying about. Sorry that you are dumb enough to believe liars. I personally do not believe liars of any stripe, right left or in--between. I have never lied about anything. My insistence on truth made me into a whistleblower. A genuine one, not one who claims to have been one. Roger W Helbig On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 5:56 AM, Karen Aram > wrote: Come on Roger, Counterpunch already blew your cover, as a paid USG troll. So stop it. Just because the powers that control the Peace Discuss List, find it amusing to have you provoking others and allow you to continue with your propaganda, doesn’t mean we buy it. On Apr 9, 2018, at 03:36, Roger Helbig via Peace-discuss > wrote: Much more accurate source than rant from FAB's buddy Rokke, who probably knows nothing about the incident in UK either - I think I sent this list the preliminary report on that - if not, I will. Roger ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: OPCW Public Affairs > Date: Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 2:54 AM Subject: OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria [Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons] For Immediate Release OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria THE HAGUE, Netherlands — 9 April 2018 — The Director-General of Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), Ambassador Ahmet Üzümcü, expressed his grave concern in response to the alleged chemical weapons attack on 7 April in Douma, Syrian Arab Republic. The OPCW Situation Centre has been closely monitoring the incident and made a preliminary analysis of the reports of the alleged use of chemical weapons immediately after they were issued. The Fact Finding Mission (FFM) is in the process of gathering further information from all available sources to establish whether chemical weapons were used. The FFM will report its findings to States Parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention. Background The Chemical Weapons Convention comprehensively prohibits the use, development, production, stockpiling and transfer of chemical weapons. In response to persistent allegations of chemical weapon attacks in Syria, the OPCW Fact Finding Mission (FFM) was set up in 2014 “to establish facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals, reportedly chlorine, for hostile purposes in the Syrian Arab Republic”. The FFM is required to study available information relating to allegations of use of chemical weapons in Syria, including information provided by the Syrian Arab Republic and others. Since May 2014, the OPCW has deployed the FFM in numerous occasions to the Syrian Arab Republic and outside of Syria and has kept States Parties informed of its work. The FFM interviews witnesses and obtains samples and physical evidence for analysis. In 2015, the OPCW Executive Council and the UN Security Council endorsed the continual operation of the FFM. The FFM’s findings established the facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals as weapons in Syria and confirmed that chemical weapons had been used. The FFM’s findings were the basis for the work of the OPCW-UN Joint Investigative Mechanism (JIM), an independent body established by the UN Security Council (Resolution 2235, 7 August 2015). The JIM’s purpose was to identify the perpetrators of the chemical weapon attacks confirmed by the Fact Finding Mission. The JIM’s mandate expired in December 2017. As the implementing body for the Chemical Weapons Convention, the OPCW oversees the global endeavour to permanently and verifiably eliminate chemical weapons. Since the Convention’s entry into force in 1997 – and with its 192 States Parties – it is the most successful disarmament treaty eliminating an entire class of weapons of mass destruction. Over ninety-six per cent of all chemical weapon stockpiles declared by possessor States have been destroyed under OPCW verification. For its extensive efforts in eliminating chemical weapons, the OPCW received the 2013 Nobel Prize for Peace. More Information OPCW Fact Sheets Media Inquiries OPCW Public Affairs Johan de Wittlaan 32, 2517 JR The Hague, The Netherlands + 31 70 416 32 42 public.affairs at opcw.org www.opcw.org For information only. Not an official record. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Apr 9 13:40:38 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 13:40:38 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You have attempted to connect with me on FB, are you kidding or just nuts. On Apr 9, 2018, at 06:24, Roger Helbig > wrote: I guess if you lie about the CIA, then I expect I should be flattered if you lie about me. Not sure what you gain from spreading lies, but I guess maybe you are too old to learn anything new. I always viewed learning as a life long process and since I actually know something about chemical weapons, I have an interest in them. I also have an interest in exposing liars if they lie about me personally. Roger I have sent my full reply to Boyle to the expert quoted by ABC News, the Editor of this publication in the UK. I hope that I get a reply from him. Novichok agents, however, are unusual for their strength, Gwynn Winfield, a chemical weapons expert with the publication CBRNe World, told ABC News. He said they required much larger doses of more complicated antidotes. On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:12 AM, Karen Aram > wrote: Yeah right. On Apr 9, 2018, at 06:09, Roger Helbig > wrote: Counterpunch is not exactly a truthful source and they never correct their lies. I am not paid by anyone. I never have been paid by anyone. I got into this because I know what I am talking about and because Rokke lied about me and I decided to find out what else he was lying about. Sorry that you are dumb enough to believe liars. I personally do not believe liars of any stripe, right left or in--between. I have never lied about anything. My insistence on truth made me into a whistleblower. A genuine one, not one who claims to have been one. Roger W Helbig On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 5:56 AM, Karen Aram > wrote: Come on Roger, Counterpunch already blew your cover, as a paid USG troll. So stop it. Just because the powers that control the Peace Discuss List, find it amusing to have you provoking others and allow you to continue with your propaganda, doesn’t mean we buy it. On Apr 9, 2018, at 03:36, Roger Helbig via Peace-discuss > wrote: Much more accurate source than rant from FAB's buddy Rokke, who probably knows nothing about the incident in UK either - I think I sent this list the preliminary report on that - if not, I will. Roger ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: OPCW Public Affairs > Date: Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 2:54 AM Subject: OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria [Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons] For Immediate Release OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria THE HAGUE, Netherlands — 9 April 2018 — The Director-General of Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), Ambassador Ahmet Üzümcü, expressed his grave concern in response to the alleged chemical weapons attack on 7 April in Douma, Syrian Arab Republic. The OPCW Situation Centre has been closely monitoring the incident and made a preliminary analysis of the reports of the alleged use of chemical weapons immediately after they were issued. The Fact Finding Mission (FFM) is in the process of gathering further information from all available sources to establish whether chemical weapons were used. The FFM will report its findings to States Parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention. Background The Chemical Weapons Convention comprehensively prohibits the use, development, production, stockpiling and transfer of chemical weapons. In response to persistent allegations of chemical weapon attacks in Syria, the OPCW Fact Finding Mission (FFM) was set up in 2014 “to establish facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals, reportedly chlorine, for hostile purposes in the Syrian Arab Republic”. The FFM is required to study available information relating to allegations of use of chemical weapons in Syria, including information provided by the Syrian Arab Republic and others. Since May 2014, the OPCW has deployed the FFM in numerous occasions to the Syrian Arab Republic and outside of Syria and has kept States Parties informed of its work. The FFM interviews witnesses and obtains samples and physical evidence for analysis. In 2015, the OPCW Executive Council and the UN Security Council endorsed the continual operation of the FFM. The FFM’s findings established the facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals as weapons in Syria and confirmed that chemical weapons had been used. The FFM’s findings were the basis for the work of the OPCW-UN Joint Investigative Mechanism (JIM), an independent body established by the UN Security Council (Resolution 2235, 7 August 2015). The JIM’s purpose was to identify the perpetrators of the chemical weapon attacks confirmed by the Fact Finding Mission. The JIM’s mandate expired in December 2017. As the implementing body for the Chemical Weapons Convention, the OPCW oversees the global endeavour to permanently and verifiably eliminate chemical weapons. Since the Convention’s entry into force in 1997 – and with its 192 States Parties – it is the most successful disarmament treaty eliminating an entire class of weapons of mass destruction. Over ninety-six per cent of all chemical weapon stockpiles declared by possessor States have been destroyed under OPCW verification. For its extensive efforts in eliminating chemical weapons, the OPCW received the 2013 Nobel Prize for Peace. More Information OPCW Fact Sheets Media Inquiries OPCW Public Affairs Johan de Wittlaan 32, 2517 JR The Hague, The Netherlands + 31 70 416 32 42 public.affairs at opcw.org www.opcw.org For information only. Not an official record. 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Apr 9 13:44:25 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 13:44:25 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: just nuts. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 8:41 AM To: Roger Helbig Cc: Peace-discuss Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria You have attempted to connect with me on FB, are you kidding or just nuts. On Apr 9, 2018, at 06:24, Roger Helbig > wrote: I guess if you lie about the CIA, then I expect I should be flattered if you lie about me. Not sure what you gain from spreading lies, but I guess maybe you are too old to learn anything new. I always viewed learning as a life long process and since I actually know something about chemical weapons, I have an interest in them. I also have an interest in exposing liars if they lie about me personally. Roger I have sent my full reply to Boyle to the expert quoted by ABC News, the Editor of this publication in the UK. I hope that I get a reply from him. Novichok agents, however, are unusual for their strength, Gwynn Winfield, a chemical weapons expert with the publication CBRNe World, told ABC News. He said they required much larger doses of more complicated antidotes. On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:12 AM, Karen Aram > wrote: Yeah right. On Apr 9, 2018, at 06:09, Roger Helbig > wrote: Counterpunch is not exactly a truthful source and they never correct their lies. I am not paid by anyone. I never have been paid by anyone. I got into this because I know what I am talking about and because Rokke lied about me and I decided to find out what else he was lying about. Sorry that you are dumb enough to believe liars. I personally do not believe liars of any stripe, right left or in--between. I have never lied about anything. My insistence on truth made me into a whistleblower. A genuine one, not one who claims to have been one. Roger W Helbig On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 5:56 AM, Karen Aram > wrote: Come on Roger, Counterpunch already blew your cover, as a paid USG troll. So stop it. Just because the powers that control the Peace Discuss List, find it amusing to have you provoking others and allow you to continue with your propaganda, doesn’t mean we buy it. On Apr 9, 2018, at 03:36, Roger Helbig via Peace-discuss > wrote: Much more accurate source than rant from FAB's buddy Rokke, who probably knows nothing about the incident in UK either - I think I sent this list the preliminary report on that - if not, I will. Roger ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: OPCW Public Affairs > Date: Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 2:54 AM Subject: OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria [Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons] For Immediate Release OPCW Director-General on Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use in Douma, Syria THE HAGUE, Netherlands — 9 April 2018 — The Director-General of Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), Ambassador Ahmet Üzümcü, expressed his grave concern in response to the alleged chemical weapons attack on 7 April in Douma, Syrian Arab Republic. The OPCW Situation Centre has been closely monitoring the incident and made a preliminary analysis of the reports of the alleged use of chemical weapons immediately after they were issued. The Fact Finding Mission (FFM) is in the process of gathering further information from all available sources to establish whether chemical weapons were used. The FFM will report its findings to States Parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention. Background The Chemical Weapons Convention comprehensively prohibits the use, development, production, stockpiling and transfer of chemical weapons. In response to persistent allegations of chemical weapon attacks in Syria, the OPCW Fact Finding Mission (FFM) was set up in 2014 “to establish facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals, reportedly chlorine, for hostile purposes in the Syrian Arab Republic”. The FFM is required to study available information relating to allegations of use of chemical weapons in Syria, including information provided by the Syrian Arab Republic and others. Since May 2014, the OPCW has deployed the FFM in numerous occasions to the Syrian Arab Republic and outside of Syria and has kept States Parties informed of its work. The FFM interviews witnesses and obtains samples and physical evidence for analysis. In 2015, the OPCW Executive Council and the UN Security Council endorsed the continual operation of the FFM. The FFM’s findings established the facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals as weapons in Syria and confirmed that chemical weapons had been used. The FFM’s findings were the basis for the work of the OPCW-UN Joint Investigative Mechanism (JIM), an independent body established by the UN Security Council (Resolution 2235, 7 August 2015). The JIM’s purpose was to identify the perpetrators of the chemical weapon attacks confirmed by the Fact Finding Mission. The JIM’s mandate expired in December 2017. As the implementing body for the Chemical Weapons Convention, the OPCW oversees the global endeavour to permanently and verifiably eliminate chemical weapons. Since the Convention’s entry into force in 1997 – and with its 192 States Parties – it is the most successful disarmament treaty eliminating an entire class of weapons of mass destruction. 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Finkelstein Message-ID: https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: aalsmin-l-bounces at lists.ubalt.edu On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2007 12:49 PM To: AALSMIN-L at lists.ubalt.edu Subject: [AALSMIN-L] De Paul & Dershowitz v. Finkelstein Importance: High ________________________________ From: Boyle, Francis Sent: Sat 6/9/2007 12:30 PM To: nyt at blythe.org Subject: De Paul & Dershowitz v. Finkelstein I think I have read almost every book Professor Norman Finkelstein has written. He is on my "automatic buy" list along with Noam Chomsky and a handful of others. Professor Finkelstein is an outstanding scholar who has had and will continue to have a momentous impact on Middle East Studies. It is a disgrace that DePaul University--which purports to be Catholic--succumbed to political pressure and inflicted this grave injustice upon Professor Finkelstein at the behest of Alan Derhsowitz and his Neo-Conservative confederates.. As for Dershowitz, he is a self-incriminated war criminal who publicly admitted that he serves on a Mossad Committee that authorizes the murder and assassination of Palestinians,which constitutes a grave violation of the Geneva Conventions and thus a serious war crime. Dershowitz is also infamous around the world for being this country's foremost advocate for torture. In my opinion it is Professor Finkelstein who far better represents the real values and ethos of the Jewish People. In any event, it is a shame that the Universty named after St. Vincent DePaul has allied itself with the war criminal Dershowitz against the courageous Norman Finkelstein. Unlike Dershowitz, Professor Finkelstein has always spoken the Truth to those in Power. By comparison, Dershowitz is nothing more than an Errand Boy for those in Power. But as St. Vincent DePaul University should have understood: "You shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall set you free!" Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law University of Illinois College of Law Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Avenue Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (voice) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ATT2033746.txt URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Apr 9 16:14:26 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:14:26 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" Message-ID: https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. Alan Dershowitz on the Defense (His Own) By BARRY MEIERDEC. 12, 2015 nytimes.com | Dec. 12, 2015 Last month, demonstrators at Johns Hopkins University interrupted Alan M. Dershowitz as he was giving a fiery speech defending Israel. The disruption normally would not have fazed Mr. Dershowitz, a former Harvard Law School professor who thrives on controversy and relishes taking on opponents in and out of the courtroom. The protesters, however, were not challenging his Middle East politics. Instead, they held up a sign reading, "You Are Rape Culture." Mr. Dershowitz knew what it meant. A decade ago, he had defended a friend, a money manager named Jeffrey E. Epstein, after authorities in Palm Beach, Fla., found evidence indicating that he was paying underage girls to give him sexual massages. The lawyer led a scorched-earth attack on the girls and, with a team of high-priced lawyers, cut a plea deal for Mr. Epstein that the local police said was too lenient. Over a five-decade career, Mr. Dershowitz has represented some of America's most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson - that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost. Last December, as part of a filing in an ongoing lawsuit, a woman charged that Mr. Dershowitz had sex with her when she was underage. Mr. Dershowitz called the claim an "outrageous lie" and over the last year has faced fallout from the accusation. "This is very serious," Mr. Dershowitz said last month at his apartment in Manhattan. "It involves my life, my legacy, my career, my history, my reputation." As he has defended that legacy, there has been a lawsuit, a counterclaim and even an accusation of an extortion plot against the billionaire Leslie H. Wexner, the chairman of L Brands, the retail empire that includes Victoria's Secret and Henri Bendel. It also has pitted Mr. Dershowitz against another of the nation's most famous lawyers, David Boies, who represents his accuser. The two lawyers are in an increasingly virulent war. In October, Mr. Dershowitz testified in a deposition that Mr. Boies had privately assured Mr. Dershowitz that he did not believe the claims of his client, Virginia Roberts Giuffre. "He said that he would not have taken this case if they had known she was going to accuse me," Mr. Dershowitz said recently. Mr. Boies responded that he never made such a statement. "The only explanation I have is that he is so emotional about this that he starts saying things without being careful," Mr. Boies said in an interview. "He has been someone whose approach in litigation is to attack the other side." In recent weeks, efforts to resolve the thicket of legal actions have begun, but Mr. Dershowitz insists that any settlement must clear him of sexual wrongdoing. The woman accusing Mr. Dershowitz has not filed a complaint with the authorities or a lawsuit against him. Instead, her allegation first emerged in a lawsuit that challenged Mr. Epstein's plea agreement. Mr. Dershowitz long taught his students that everyone, even those charged with the most heinous crimes, deserves a defense. But he now says he hesitated when Mr. Epstein called him in 2006 to ask for help because he was being investigated in connection with sex crimes. "I said, 'Look, you know Jeffrey, we're acquaintances, maybe that's not such a great idea," Mr. Dershowitz said. "He said, 'No, no, no, I really need you to do this.'" The case, Mr. Dershowitz realized, "was right in my wheelhouse." In December 2005, a few months before he got that phone call, Mr. Dershowitz, his wife, children and grandchildren were vacationing at Mr. Epstein's Palm Beach mansion. The friendship between the men started in the mid-1990s on Martha's Vineyard. Not long after they met, Mr. Epstein invited Mr. Dershowitz to a birthday party for Mr. Wexner. Instead of accepting presents, the retail magnate had a tradition of asking friends to bring the most interesting person they had met over the last year. "He said, 'I'd like to bring you,'" Mr. Dershowitz said. By any measure, Mr. Dershowitz had led an interesting life. At 28, after clerking for a Supreme Court justice, Mr. Dershowitz became the youngest professor ever hired by Harvard Law School. It was outside the classroom, however, where his fame grew. He handled celebrated cases, appeared as television commentator and wrote many books, fiction and nonfiction. His account of the von Bulow case, "Reversal of Fortune," was made into a film in 1990 in which the actor Ron Silver donned a bushy mustache and aviator glasses to play Mr. Dershowitz. Along with enjoying celebrity, Mr. Dershowitz has also relished excoriating those he considers foes. He has taken on journalists, chided universities for coddling students and has been relentless in his defense of Israel, for example, accusing the writer Alice Walker of bigotry for refusing to allow an Israeli publisher to translate her novel "The Color Purple." Soon after meeting Mr. Epstein, Mr. Dershowitz became drawn into his rarefied world. Mr. Epstein was an enigmatic figure living in an Upper East Side mansion once owned by Mr. Wexner, who had reportedly been his mentor. A college dropout who once worked for Bear Stearns, Mr. Epstein said he handled investments for billionaires, though other than Mr. Wexner, he declined to identify them. Along with prominent businessmen, Mr. Epstein's friends included scientists, socialites and celebrities. He donated $30 million to finance scientific research at Harvard. President Bill Clinton and the actor Kevin Spacey flew aboard his private jet to Africa to discuss AIDS policy. Mr. Dershowitz also traveled on Mr. Epstein's plane and was invited to join his chats with Ehud Barak, the former Israeli prime minister. The men grew so close that Mr. Dershowitz solicited Mr. Epstein's feedback as he was writing books. In the interview in his Manhattan apartment, Mr. Dershowitz said Mr. Epstein was often surrounded by young women, but none struck him as underage. "I never got involved in his social life," he said. However, in late 2005, around the time when Mr. Dershowitz and his family were vacationing at Mr. Epstein's home, Palm Beach detectives were sifting through the trash outside. Acting on a tip, the authorities were investigating whether women working as assistants to Mr. Epstein were finding teenage girls to give him sexual massages. As the inquiry unfolded, detectives spoke with girls, some of whom were 15 or younger. After taking the case, Mr. Dershowitz responded, as was his way, with hardball tactics. He gathered information from the girls' postings on social media accounts, which he claimed showed they were drug users or had lied to Mr. Epstein about their age. He also helped put together a defense team that included Roy Black, the prominent trial lawyer, and Kenneth W. Starr, who led the investigation into President Bill Clinton's involvement with Monica Lewinsky. A local prosecutor, after meetings with Mr. Epstein's defense team, recommended that he be charged only with a misdemeanor. The chief of the Palm Beach police department was so outraged by the proposal that he wrote a letter to the Justice Department asking it to get involved in the case. Over time, authorities found evidence suggesting that Mr. Epstein had paid dozens of girls for sexual services. However, Mr. Dershowitz and other lawyers struck a deal in which Mr. Epstein agreed to plead guilty in a Florida court to one count of soliciting prostitution and another of procuring a person under 18 for prostitution. At the same time, federal officials agreed not to bring charges against Mr. Epstein or any of his potential co-conspirators. A Florida judge sentenced Mr. Epstein to 18 months in jail, though he was allowed to spend days working on the outside. He was released in 2009 after serving 13 months - a shortened sentence for good behavior - and had to register as a sex offender. [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/12/13/business/dershowitz-timeline-oj/dershowitz-timeline-oj-master495.jpg] OPEN Timeline For a criminal lawyer, the residue of a case can remain long after it ends. Twenty years ago, Mr. Dershowitz received death threats after he helped secure Mr. Simpson's acquittal on murder charges. And as a writer, he has imagined even worse plots. In one of his legal thrillers, "The Advocate's Devil," a lawyer discovers that a man for whom he had won an acquittal on rape charges is stalking his daughter. But Mr. Epstein's case has come back to haunt him in ways he never expected. "I have been criticized for the cases I've taken," he said, "but no one has ever criticized my personal life." The events that pulled him back into Mr. Epstein's orbit began unfolding in 2008. That year, two lawyers, Bradley J. Edwards and Paul G. Cassell, filed a lawsuit accusing the Justice Department of violating the rights of two women involved in Mr. Epstein's case by not allowing them to challenge his plea deal. Then, in 2011, a British newspaper, The Mail on Sunday, published an article about Virginia Roberts Giuffre, another of Mr. Epstein's accusers, who was then living in Australia. Ms. Giuffre, now a 32-year-old mother of three, told the newspaper that Mr. Epstein first started paying her for sexual services when she was 15. She also described traveling around the world on Mr. Epstein's jet. "Basically, I was training to be a prostitute for him and his friends who shared his interest in young girls," Ms. Giuffre told the newspaper. Soon afterward, the lawyers suing the Justice Department interviewed Ms. Giuffre and asked her if any of Mr. Epstein's friends might have information about his exploitation of girls. When they mentioned Mr. Dershowitz, she replied, "Yes," according to a transcript of the 2011 call. But last December, Mr. Dershowitz was drawn into the Justice Department lawsuit in an entirely different way. In a motion filed that month, Ms. Giuffre claimed that she and Mr. Dershowitz had sex when she was a minor aboard Mr. Epstein's plane and at the money manager's homes in New York, New Mexico and the Virgin Islands. She also asserted that Mr. Epstein had "sexually trafficked" her to other powerful friends, including Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. Buckingham Palace rejected the claims against the prince. The judge later struck Ms. Giuffre's motion from the court filing, but by then, the accusations were being widely reported and broadcast. Mr. Dershowitz's phone was ringing with calls from reporters seeking comment. At every opportunity, he called Ms. Giuffre's claims "outrageous falsehoods" and called the lawyers who had made the filing, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Cassell, "villains" who helped fabricate the claims against him. Mr. Dershowitz said he would seek to have them disbarred, adding he had diary records and other information to show he was not at locations where Ms. Giuffre claimed they had met. "They're prepared to lie, cheat and steal," Mr. Dershowitz said in an interview on CNN in January. The two lawyers, who declined to be interviewed for this article, filed a defamation lawsuit against Mr. Dershowitz, who responded with his own counterclaim. Mr. Boies's firm soon entered the fray. In late 2014, a lawyer at the firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, agreed to represent Ms. Giuffre in legal matters not directly related to the Justice Department lawsuit. When Mr. Dershowitz's name surfaced in that lawsuit, another lawyer at the firm agreed to represent him before realizing that Ms. Giuffre was already a client. After the lawyer withdrew, Mr. Dershowitz expressed anger, saying that he had already told the firm his legal strategy before he was made aware of the conflict. Mr. Boies called the claim frivolous. "This idea of going to the press and asserting there is a conflict when you are not willing to make that claim in court is irresponsible," said the lawyer, who is perhaps best known for representing the Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore against George W. Bush in his challenge to the 2000 election results. That incident, however, was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods. In October, during a deposition in the defamation case against him, Mr. Dershowitz testified that he had received a confidential phone call from a female friend of Ms. Giuffre, who provided him with troubling information. According to Mr. Dershowitz's testimony, the woman said that Ms. Giuffre had told her that she had been pressured to level sexual charges at Mr. Dershowitz. She also described a plan to accuse Mr. Wexner of having sex with Ms. Giuffre when she was underage. "Virginia and her lawyers hoped to get $1 billion, B-I-L-L-I-O-N, $1 billion or half of his net worth," Mr. Dershowitz testified he was told, calling the plan an "extortion" attempt. A lawyer for Mr. Wexner, John W. Zeiger, did not respond to telephone calls. But a person briefed on the matter but who was not authorized to speak publicly about it said that Mr. Wexner had never met Ms. Giuffre and no extortion attempt was made. Mr. Dershowitz says he wants nothing more than for Ms. Giuffre to publicly retract her claims. He insists that Mr. Boies privately told him that he believed Mr. Dershowitz was innocent and that Ms. Giuffre, while believing the allegations, was mistaken or confused. Mr. Boies says Mr. Dershowitz's claims are ludicrous. "I never said to him that I concluded that my clients' assertions were incorrect," he said. "I didn't say that. I didn't say anything like that." On Friday, Mr. Dershowitz filed an affidavit in a Florida state court, containing notes of his conversations with Mr. Boies that he says support his account. In it, he described Mr. Boies as telling him that if his client refused to withdraw her claim, "he could not ethically continue to represent her." Hours later, Mr. Boies's firm asked the Florida judge to seal Mr. Dershowitz's affidavit, and in a related filing, Mr. Boies described some of Mr. Dershowitz's assertions as "misleading" or "flatly untrue." In this intensifying game of legal chicken, it is not clear who will flinch first. Ms. Giuffre seems unwilling to yield and used a recent court filing to fire back at Mr. Dershowitz. "He is lying by denying that he had sex with me," said Ms. Giuffre, who declined to be interviewed for this article. Mr. Dershowitz says he is no longer friendly with Mr. Epstein, who lives once again in his lavish Upper East side mansion. Still, like it or not, the lawyer remains tethered to him. Having defended Mr. Epstein, he said that he could not express his feelings about him. Several well-known criminal defense lawyers said that personal attacks were an occupational hazard. "Alan has never shied away from a fight in his life," said Abbe D. Lowell, a lawyer in Washington whose clients have included the lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who was convicted of corruption in 2006. "He has been that kind of lightning rod." For a man who has never lacked for self-confidence, Mr. Dershowitz now finds himself saddled with regret. Two clients, he said, have backed away from him because of his accuser's claims, and he worries whether universities like Johns Hopkins will invite him to give speeches or present him with awards. He now says he thinks that he should have said no when Mr. Epstein called. "I think I do regret having taken the case in light of everything that has happened since," he said. "If I could give back the money I made in this case and have this episode of my life erased, I'd do it." (c) 2018 The New York Times Company Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 7:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 Dershowitz and Boies spar in 'an increasingly virulent war' over rape accusation By Debra Cassens Weiss Posted December 15, 2015, 7:46 am CST * * * inShare * * [Print.] Updated: Former Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz says he initially hesitated a decade ago when a friend sought his help fighting allegations that he paid underage girls to give him sexual massages. Dershowitz took the case anyway and arranged a plea deal for his client, wealthy money manager Jeffrey Epstein. Now Dershowitz is defending his own reputation after a lawsuit challenging the plea deal brought an accusation that he had sex with a woman when she was a minor, the New York Times reports. The accuser, represented by lawyer David Boies, never filed a complaint with police or a suit against Dershowitz. She testified in a suit claiming the Justice Department violated the rights of two women in Epstein's case by not allowing them to challenge the plea deal. The accusation led to "an increasingly virulent war" between Boies and Dershowitz, according to the New York Times. The woman's claims, Dershowitz has said, are "outrageous falsehoods," and two other lawyers who made the sex claim in a court filing are "villains." Those two lawyers, Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassell, alleged defamation in a suit against Dershowitz, who filed a counterclaim. "Over a five-decade career," the Times story says, "Dershowitz has represented some of America's most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson-that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost." Boies' firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, is representing the accuser pro bono in the defamation case as part of a program to assist victims of abuse, according to prior coverage by Reuters. The firm also discussed representing Dershowitz before the conflict was discovered, according to Dershowitz. He claims he wasn't made aware of the conflict until after he revealed his legal strategy to the firm. (Even if there was no attorney-client relationship formed, the firm could be disqualified if Dershowitz made confidential statements to the firm in contemplation of possible litigation, according to this post by the Faculty Lounge.) Boies responded that Dershowitz was "irresponsible" for making a conflict claim in the press without being willing to assert it in court. According to the New York Times story, the incident "was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods." Dershowitz claimed in a deposition in the defamation case that he received a phone call from a friend of the accuser, who said she was pressured to make the claim against Dershowitz and another friend of Epstein's in hopes of recovering $1 billion. Dershowitz also claims Boies privately told him he believed Dershowitz is innocent and his accuser is mistaken or confused. Dershowitz filed a court affidavit (PDF) claiming Boies told him he could not ethically continue to represent the woman if she did not withdraw her claim. The affidavit includes Dershowitz's contemporaneous notes of his conversations with Boies supporting his claims about Boies' statements. It also says that a mutual friend attended the meetings in which Boies made his comments. "Over the course of several conversations in person, over the phone, and on Skype," Dershowitz's affidavit says, "Mr. Boies repeatedly stated that he did not believe the allegations that [his client] had made against me were factually true." Boies denies making such a comment. "I never said to him that I concluded that my clients' assertions were incorrect," Boies told the Times. "I didn't say that. I didn't say anything like that." Dershowitz responded to Boies' denial in a statement to the ABA Journal. "I doubt that my friend David Boies will be willing to state under oath that he did not make the statements that I quote in my affidavit," Dershowitz said. "It's one thing to deny making them to the media. It's quite another thing to deny them under pains and penalties of perjury." Typo and missing period corrected at 9 a.m. Additional information about Dershowitz's affidavit and statement from Dershowitz added on Dec. 17. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 6:54 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. I really like this picture of Orgy Epstein, Dirty Dershowitz and Harvard. Just shows you that the sub silentio Motto of Harvard is: Cupiditas! As for #MeToo Dirty Dersh his Motto while travelling on Epstein's Lolita Express to and from Epstein's Orgy Island in order to cavort with underage girls, prostitutes and their Male Sexual Predators and Abusers with one of the girls alleging that #MeToo Dirty Dersh had abused her (last time I read being represented by David Boies and his law firm) is: Semper Ubi Sub Ubi! Be sure to wear your Tighty Whities for his events on April 26-on your head! Fab. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 834 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Apr 9 20:54:45 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 20:54:45 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Why we need to protest Alan Dershowitz lies, see the link In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That is exactly the plan. Have you ever seen me make it personal? No, I focus on the issue. And, I expect others to do the same. The issue is the warmongering, so please don’t keep chastising me as if I use hatred for particular individuals as a motivating force. I oppose warmongers no matter what their Party affiliation. Dershowitz is a big name, well known by mainstream Americans, now making the rounds of college campuses to pervert the minds of the young, in support of Israel and war in Syria. Other campuses have protested his presence and lies, we should do the same here at the U of I. On Apr 9, 2018, at 13:41, C G Estabrook > wrote: Protest against the wars he supports - and inform people about them - rather than concentrating on his personal corruption. On Apr 9, 2018, at 3:37 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/04/08/dershowitz-trump-wont-repeat-obamas-tragic-mistake-syria-red-line _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidgreen50 at gmail.com Mon Apr 9 22:44:03 2018 From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 17:44:03 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My letter in Daily Illini Message-ID: The letter below was published today at the link below, edited both for length and to add grammatical errors. Notice in particular that "sea change" became "sea of change." Oh well. There are links to both Cary Nelson and Jeffrey Brown's (dean of business school) previous letters below and in the DI version. The Nelson letter includes all 17 signatories, although only 10 of them were included in the DI published version. I think that the sponsorship of Dershowitz by the Business School and Chabad (but not other local Jewish institutions is instructive and supportive in relation to the content of my letter, and Brown's as well. DG https://dailyillini.com/opinions/2018/04/08/letter-to-the-editor-bds-movement-needs-clear-goal/ During my 20 years in this campus community, I’ve been involved in both the general anti-war movement, especially subsequent to 9/11/01, and in the pro-Palestinian movement as a Jewish dissident, first with Not In My Name (Chicago) as a founding member (2000), and more recently with Jewish Voice for Peace, a national organization. I’ve been privileged to know several cohorts of Students for Justice in Palestine. These two decades have seen a sea change in general awareness of the historical and current dispossessed, oppressed, and brutalized plight of the stateless Palestinian people, from the planned Zionist ethnic cleansing of *Nakba* (1947-49) through the current incipiently genocidal siege of Gaza. Israel is rightfully compared by informed critics to apartheid South Africa, especially regarding its illegal settlements on the West Bank and in East Jerusalem. Incontrovertible historical and critical work by Palestinian, Jewish-Israeli, and Jewish-American scholars (e.g., Edward Said, Rashid Khalidi, Ilan Pappé, Avi Shlaim, Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein) leave no doubts regarding the one-sidedly brutal nature of Zionism as a European settler-colonialist project, comparable in many ways to our own racist history. Given these understandings, Israel’s behavior can no longer be justified in relation to the Holocaust, from the Zionist terrorism of the 1940s to the present day. The recent (March 30th) massacre of over 15 unarmed Palestinian civilians in Gaza by heavily-armed Israeli forces is, obviously, consistent with preceding asymmetrical historical realities. Prior to Israel’s most recent invasion of Lebanon (2006) and Operation Cast Lead (Gaza, 2008-09), this campus and community were decidedly pro-Israel. But the increasingly wanton nature of Israeli behavior over the past decade, including vis a vis Iran, has been accompanied by increased awareness of and support for the Palestinian struggle. Opposition to UIUC’s institutionalized abuse of Palestinian-American scholar Steven Salaita in 2014 was also indicative of this trend. Meanwhile, Israel’s policies have largely lost the support of Jewish-Americans in general and of Jewish youth in particular. Local Jewish institutions—Sinai Temple, Hillel, Jewish Federation, and UI Program for Jewish Culture and Society—no longer, as previously, host Israeli and Zionist speakers in order to justify Israel’s chronically bellicose behavior. Mention of Israel has been nearly cleansed from their websites. The tiny local student Israel Lobby/propaganda group, Illinipac, is no longer supported by Hillel. Nevertheless, Israel’s imperial ambitions in the Middle East remain in accord with those of the United States as we continue our post-Cold War invasions of the energy-rich region, 1991 to the present. Support for these synchronized (with Saudi Arabia) ambitions is, unsurprisingly, embedded in American governmental, military-industrial, corporate, and educational institutions, including our own. When coming from Cary Nelson and the 16 illustrious and wealthy professorial co-signers of his recent commentary in the *DI* (3/8) , or from Dean Jeffrey ($400,000) Brown (3/4), justifications for collaboration with institutionalized racism, gross violations of human rights, state-sponsored violence, and the brutalization of children are couched, of course, in liberal terms of openness, opportunity, research, and progress (and even internships). This is as unsurprising as it is hypocritical and Orwellian. These individuals would claim to support a Palestinian state, but have never uttered a public word in opposition to Israeli and U.S. policies that prevent this. Indeed, they denigrate those students who conscientiously oppose such policies by cynically accusing them of engaging in “hate speech.” Nevertheless, given the recent referendum, I must honestly conclude that the efforts of the BDS movement to challenge powerful institutional structures and interests seem increasingly unfocused and futile for any number of tactical and strategic reasons. I would suggest that local organizing efforts make both a clear commitment to a two-state solution and a serious effort to include enlightened Jewish students. That could be the basis for both the consciousness and solidarity needed to send a clear message to the cynical powers-that-be on this campus, whose behavior is utterly shameful at a fundamental moral level. I welcome good faith responses and interaction. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Apr 9 23:04:32 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 23:04:32 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Why we need to protest Alan Dershowitz lies, see the link In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dersh is a notorious Torture-Mongerer and a War Criminal. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:55 PM To: C G Estabrook Cc: peace ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Why we need to protest Alan Dershowitz lies, see the link That is exactly the plan. Have you ever seen me make it personal? No, I focus on the issue. And, I expect others to do the same. The issue is the warmongering, so please don’t keep chastising me as if I use hatred for particular individuals as a motivating force. I oppose warmongers no matter what their Party affiliation. Dershowitz is a big name, well known by mainstream Americans, now making the rounds of college campuses to pervert the minds of the young, in support of Israel and war in Syria. Other campuses have protested his presence and lies, we should do the same here at the U of I. On Apr 9, 2018, at 13:41, C G Estabrook > wrote: Protest against the wars he supports - and inform people about them - rather than concentrating on his personal corruption. On Apr 9, 2018, at 3:37 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/04/08/dershowitz-trump-wont-repeat-obamas-tragic-mistake-syria-red-line _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Apr 9 23:19:37 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 23:19:37 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Why we need to protest Alan Dershowitz lies, see the link References: Message-ID: https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. And these Sponsoring Organizations are SICK AND DEMENTED for having invited a notorious Torture-Mongerer, an Admitted War Criminal, and an Alleged Rapist of a Girl to Poison and Pollute and Pervert our Community. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 6:05 PM To: 'Karen Aram' ; C G Estabrook Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Why we need to protest Alan Dershowitz lies, see the link Dersh is a notorious Torture-Mongerer and a War Criminal. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace > On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:55 PM To: C G Estabrook > Cc: peace >; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Why we need to protest Alan Dershowitz lies, see the link That is exactly the plan. Have you ever seen me make it personal? No, I focus on the issue. And, I expect others to do the same. The issue is the warmongering, so please don’t keep chastising me as if I use hatred for particular individuals as a motivating force. I oppose warmongers no matter what their Party affiliation. Dershowitz is a big name, well known by mainstream Americans, now making the rounds of college campuses to pervert the minds of the young, in support of Israel and war in Syria. Other campuses have protested his presence and lies, we should do the same here at the U of I. On Apr 9, 2018, at 13:41, C G Estabrook > wrote: Protest against the wars he supports - and inform people about them - rather than concentrating on his personal corruption. On Apr 9, 2018, at 3:37 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/04/08/dershowitz-trump-wont-repeat-obamas-tragic-mistake-syria-red-line _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Apr 10 01:36:37 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 01:36:37 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Facebook intensifies censorship ahead of congressional testimony by Zuckerberg References: <380cabff931cd452085b8d4a5.2cb7388bc9.20180409191438.4dd5e086ae.721f4c1b@mail50.sea91.rsgsv.net> Message-ID: You know they must be telling “truth,” at least in respect to US wars, because they were the first to receive government and FB censorship. From: World Socialist Web Site > [https://gallery.mailchimp.com/380cabff931cd452085b8d4a5/images/3f463dd2-fd12-43f3-8738-5ab4826bcca7.png] Dear Karen, Ahead of scheduled congressional testimony by CEO Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook has announced a series of censorship measures that strike a blow against online anonymity and tighten the company’s grip on what users can say on its platform. Zuckerberg announced Friday that the company will “require people who manage large pages to be verified,” meaning they will have to provide the company, and by extension the US government, with their real names and locations. He added that the move would involve the hiring of thousands of additional censors and “security” personnel. “In order to require verification for all of these pages and advertisers, we will hire thousands of more people,” he wrote. Within hours of the announcement by Facebook on Friday, the company blocked an advertisement for a public meeting held by the Socialist Equality Party, which is affiliated with the World Socialist Web Site, entitled “No to war, inequality, and censorship,” on the grounds that it does not allow ads that contain “shocking, disrespectful, or sensational content.” Other ads related to the Oklahoma teachers strike were blocked yesterday. Read the full report on the WSWS Attend the April 22 Conference in Detroit. Register Today! 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URL: From brussel at illinois.edu Tue Apr 10 02:59:47 2018 From: brussel at illinois.edu (Brussel, Morton K) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 02:59:47 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] My letter in Daily Illini In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18D6D633-0A52-4FF2-9D80-244BD8ABAB32@illinois.edu> Excellent letter, meaning I admire it for its clarity and its content—until the last paragraph, with which I disagree. One is beating a dead horse with the two state “solution” and undermining the BDS movement with nebulous reasoning. —mkb On Apr 9, 2018, at 5:44 PM, David Green via Peace-discuss > wrote: The letter below was published today at the link below, edited both for length and to add grammatical errors. Notice in particular that "sea change" became "sea of change." Oh well. There are links to both Cary Nelson and Jeffrey Brown's (dean of business school) previous letters below and in the DI version. The Nelson letter includes all 17 signatories, although only 10 of them were included in the DI published version. I think that the sponsorship of Dershowitz by the Business School and Chabad (but not other local Jewish institutions is instructive and supportive in relation to the content of my letter, and Brown's as well. DG https://dailyillini.com/opinions/2018/04/08/letter-to-the-editor-bds-movement-needs-clear-goal/ During my 20 years in this campus community, I’ve been involved in both the general anti-war movement, especially subsequent to 9/11/01, and in the pro-Palestinian movement as a Jewish dissident, first with Not In My Name (Chicago) as a founding member (2000), and more recently with Jewish Voice for Peace, a national organization. I’ve been privileged to know several cohorts of Students for Justice in Palestine. These two decades have seen a sea change in general awareness of the historical and current dispossessed, oppressed, and brutalized plight of the stateless Palestinian people, from the planned Zionist ethnic cleansing of Nakba (1947-49) through the current incipiently genocidal siege of Gaza. Israel is rightfully compared by informed critics to apartheid South Africa, especially regarding its illegal settlements on the West Bank and in East Jerusalem. Incontrovertible historical and critical work by Palestinian, Jewish-Israeli, and Jewish-American scholars (e.g., Edward Said, Rashid Khalidi, Ilan Pappé, Avi Shlaim, Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein) leave no doubts regarding the one-sidedly brutal nature of Zionism as a European settler-colonialist project, comparable in many ways to our own racist history. Given these understandings, Israel’s behavior can no longer be justified in relation to the Holocaust, from the Zionist terrorism of the 1940s to the present day. The recent (March 30th) massacre of over 15 unarmed Palestinian civilians in Gaza by heavily-armed Israeli forces is, obviously, consistent with preceding asymmetrical historical realities. Prior to Israel’s most recent invasion of Lebanon (2006) and Operation Cast Lead (Gaza, 2008-09), this campus and community were decidedly pro-Israel. But the increasingly wanton nature of Israeli behavior over the past decade, including vis a vis Iran, has been accompanied by increased awareness of and support for the Palestinian struggle. Opposition to UIUC’s institutionalized abuse of Palestinian-American scholar Steven Salaita in 2014 was also indicative of this trend. Meanwhile, Israel’s policies have largely lost the support of Jewish-Americans in general and of Jewish youth in particular. Local Jewish institutions—Sinai Temple, Hillel, Jewish Federation, and UI Program for Jewish Culture and Society—no longer, as previously, host Israeli and Zionist speakers in order to justify Israel’s chronically bellicose behavior. Mention of Israel has been nearly cleansed from their websites. The tiny local student Israel Lobby/propaganda group, Illinipac, is no longer supported by Hillel. Nevertheless, Israel’s imperial ambitions in the Middle East remain in accord with those of the United States as we continue our post-Cold War invasions of the energy-rich region, 1991 to the present. Support for these synchronized (with Saudi Arabia) ambitions is, unsurprisingly, embedded in American governmental, military-industrial, corporate, and educational institutions, including our own. When coming from Cary Nelson and the 16 illustrious and wealthy professorial co-signers of his recent commentary in the DI (3/8), or from Dean Jeffrey ($400,000) Brown (3/4), justifications for collaboration with institutionalized racism, gross violations of human rights, state-sponsored violence, and the brutalization of children are couched, of course, in liberal terms of openness, opportunity, research, and progress (and even internships). This is as unsurprising as it is hypocritical and Orwellian. These individuals would claim to support a Palestinian state, but have never uttered a public word in opposition to Israeli and U.S. policies that prevent this. Indeed, they denigrate those students who conscientiously oppose such policies by cynically accusing them of engaging in “hate speech.” Nevertheless, given the recent referendum, I must honestly conclude that the efforts of the BDS movement to challenge powerful institutional structures and interests seem increasingly unfocused and futile for any number of tactical and strategic reasons. I would suggest that local organizing efforts make both a clear commitment to a two-state solution and a serious effort to include enlightened Jewish students. That could be the basis for both the consciousness and solidarity needed to send a clear message to the cynical powers-that-be on this campus, whose behavior is utterly shameful at a fundamental moral level. 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Apr 10 13:01:06 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:01:06 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Response to News-Gazoo Propaganda for Chief Illiniwak & Illiniwak Jones Message-ID: 80. The Racist Mascot: Why You Should Still Boo Illinois The self-styled "Fighting Illini" of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign are on their way to the Jan. 1, 2008 Rose Bowl with their racist and genocidal mascot and symbol Chief Illiniwak still in tow. Although the NCAA forced the University of Illiniwaks to prevent this Little Red Sambo from desecrating at half-times everything American Indians hold dear and treasure, nevertheless Chief Illiniwak still remains the officially designated "honored symbol" of the University of Illiniwaks at Urbana-Champaign. Just recently the University of Illiniwaks resurrected Chief Illiniwak for their Fall 2007 Homecoming in order to better milk their Alumni/ae as part of their newly launched Capital Campaign, thus definitively proving their craven racism. And then again for the 2017 Illiniwak Homecoming and New Capital Campaign. Ditto in spades. In his Year 501: The Conquest Continues (1993) Noam Chomsky suggests an apt metaphor for such American Indian sports mascots and symbols that I will elaborate upon here in order to conform to our local and most peculiar rites on this campus: Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of "The Rabbi." Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and a beard. The University itself collectively call themselves "The Fighting Jews," and the school's band is called "The Marching Jews." The student newspaper is called "The Daily Jew." All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago the University's Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to "retire" the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to "Save the Rabbi!" This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting "Racist Rabbi!" and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him.1 Finally, the moment these ardent White Aryans have all waited for has arrived. The Rabbi runs out onto the arena floor from among the Marching Jews, proceeds to the center of the Nuremberg Stadium, and dances the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews play on and march into an intricately choreographed maneuver that they all brag about and take special pride in that culminates with the band being organized into a Swastika. So the Rabbi continues to dance the Hava Nagila while the Marching Jews march themselves into a Swastika. By now all 75,000 White Aryans are hysterical, shouting, screaming, and yelling: "Rabbi! Rabbi! Rabbi!" This semi-religious spectacle that the Nazis are well known for staging, especially at the Nuremberg stadium, goes on for a good twenty minutes. It all concludes with everyone joining hands to sing "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," with the Rabbi leading all 75,000 White Aryans in the song. Then the Rabbi proceeds to dance the Hava Nagila out of the stadium followed by the Marching Jews. Everyone goes wild, clapping and cheering. This Rabbi ceremony brings tears to the eyes of many drunken alumni and students who had started several hours beforehand getting inebriated on schnapps and good German beer at pre-game tailgate parties. When it is all over, a visiting law professor from another country asks his host at the soccer match what this spectacle was all about. Without missing a beat Dean Mengele{r} of the Law School turns to his guest and says: "We are honoring the Jews." Whom the Nazis had just exterminated 60 years ago, so of course the memory of the Jews needs to be honored by this spectacle. The Illiniwek Indians were ethnically cleansed out of Illinois about a century before that. These are the real "Little Eichmans." Be sure to "Boo!" and root against the Illiniwaks. [cid:image005.jpg at 01D3D0A2.125E0FB0] 81. Doctor Illiniwak, M.D. Got a note >From a Doctor MD not PHD Saying he was just like me Illinois BS U Chicago Med Harvard Public Health He was so irate Against me for Chief Illiniwak That he told the Prez Of his beloved Alma Mater That he would not give a dime So long as I taught here Just like me? A sick puppy Pathetic Physician Typical Illinois BS Cult of Chief Illiniwak Brainwashing kids To become die-hard bigots and racists For the rest of their lives I pity his poor patients Dr. Illiniwak needs a Shrink! [cid:image006.png at 01D3D0A2.125E0FB0] 83. The Principles on Which We Stand at the University of Illinois1 The Principles on Which We Stand At the University of Illinois: The Cult of Chief Illiniwak Long Live Chief Illiniwak! Our Official Honored and Revered Symbol For the University of Illiniwaks And Illiniwaks all over the world! Illiniwak Pride! Illiniwak Fever! The Daily Illiniwak Illiniwaks Yearbooks Illiniwaks Homecoming Our Redskin Tradition Eagle Feathers too Illiniwak Stadium Our Illiniwakettes Our Fighting Illiniwaks Illiniwak Cheerleaders Our Marching Illiniwaks Band Our Famous 3 in 1 Illiniwak Spectacle Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Oskee! Bow! Wow! "Just Honoring American Indians Not demeaning anyone Nor meaning them too All very civil How White of us all!" The University of Illiniwaks Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Racists to boot Genocidaires too So very educational Anthro 101 The Cult of Chief Illiniwak A required course To get our degrees >From the University of Illiniwaks Oskee! Bow! Wow! Forever! Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ 1 Guess who? 1 My response to their illegally firing the Palestinian American Professor Steven Salaita under the pretext of "civility" as set forth in their "Statement of Principles on Which We Stand." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 53185 bytes Desc: image005.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 11:14 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. Alan Dershowitz on the Defense (His Own) By BARRY MEIERDEC. 12, 2015 nytimes.com | Dec. 12, 2015 Last month, demonstrators at Johns Hopkins University interrupted Alan M. Dershowitz as he was giving a fiery speech defending Israel. The disruption normally would not have fazed Mr. Dershowitz, a former Harvard Law School professor who thrives on controversy and relishes taking on opponents in and out of the courtroom. The protesters, however, were not challenging his Middle East politics. Instead, they held up a sign reading, "You Are Rape Culture." Mr. Dershowitz knew what it meant. A decade ago, he had defended a friend, a money manager named Jeffrey E. Epstein, after authorities in Palm Beach, Fla., found evidence indicating that he was paying underage girls to give him sexual massages. The lawyer led a scorched-earth attack on the girls and, with a team of high-priced lawyers, cut a plea deal for Mr. Epstein that the local police said was too lenient. Over a five-decade career, Mr. Dershowitz has represented some of America's most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson - that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost. Last December, as part of a filing in an ongoing lawsuit, a woman charged that Mr. Dershowitz had sex with her when she was underage. Mr. Dershowitz called the claim an "outrageous lie" and over the last year has faced fallout from the accusation. "This is very serious," Mr. Dershowitz said last month at his apartment in Manhattan. "It involves my life, my legacy, my career, my history, my reputation." As he has defended that legacy, there has been a lawsuit, a counterclaim and even an accusation of an extortion plot against the billionaire Leslie H. Wexner, the chairman of L Brands, the retail empire that includes Victoria's Secret and Henri Bendel. It also has pitted Mr. Dershowitz against another of the nation's most famous lawyers, David Boies, who represents his accuser. The two lawyers are in an increasingly virulent war. In October, Mr. Dershowitz testified in a deposition that Mr. Boies had privately assured Mr. Dershowitz that he did not believe the claims of his client, Virginia Roberts Giuffre. "He said that he would not have taken this case if they had known she was going to accuse me," Mr. Dershowitz said recently. Mr. Boies responded that he never made such a statement. "The only explanation I have is that he is so emotional about this that he starts saying things without being careful," Mr. Boies said in an interview. "He has been someone whose approach in litigation is to attack the other side." In recent weeks, efforts to resolve the thicket of legal actions have begun, but Mr. Dershowitz insists that any settlement must clear him of sexual wrongdoing. The woman accusing Mr. Dershowitz has not filed a complaint with the authorities or a lawsuit against him. Instead, her allegation first emerged in a lawsuit that challenged Mr. Epstein's plea agreement. Mr. Dershowitz long taught his students that everyone, even those charged with the most heinous crimes, deserves a defense. But he now says he hesitated when Mr. Epstein called him in 2006 to ask for help because he was being investigated in connection with sex crimes. "I said, 'Look, you know Jeffrey, we're acquaintances, maybe that's not such a great idea," Mr. Dershowitz said. "He said, 'No, no, no, I really need you to do this.'" The case, Mr. Dershowitz realized, "was right in my wheelhouse." In December 2005, a few months before he got that phone call, Mr. Dershowitz, his wife, children and grandchildren were vacationing at Mr. Epstein's Palm Beach mansion. The friendship between the men started in the mid-1990s on Martha's Vineyard. Not long after they met, Mr. Epstein invited Mr. Dershowitz to a birthday party for Mr. Wexner. Instead of accepting presents, the retail magnate had a tradition of asking friends to bring the most interesting person they had met over the last year. "He said, 'I'd like to bring you,'" Mr. Dershowitz said. By any measure, Mr. Dershowitz had led an interesting life. At 28, after clerking for a Supreme Court justice, Mr. Dershowitz became the youngest professor ever hired by Harvard Law School. It was outside the classroom, however, where his fame grew. He handled celebrated cases, appeared as television commentator and wrote many books, fiction and nonfiction. His account of the von Bulow case, "Reversal of Fortune," was made into a film in 1990 in which the actor Ron Silver donned a bushy mustache and aviator glasses to play Mr. Dershowitz. Along with enjoying celebrity, Mr. Dershowitz has also relished excoriating those he considers foes. He has taken on journalists, chided universities for coddling students and has been relentless in his defense of Israel, for example, accusing the writer Alice Walker of bigotry for refusing to allow an Israeli publisher to translate her novel "The Color Purple." Soon after meeting Mr. Epstein, Mr. Dershowitz became drawn into his rarefied world. Mr. Epstein was an enigmatic figure living in an Upper East Side mansion once owned by Mr. Wexner, who had reportedly been his mentor. A college dropout who once worked for Bear Stearns, Mr. Epstein said he handled investments for billionaires, though other than Mr. Wexner, he declined to identify them. Along with prominent businessmen, Mr. Epstein's friends included scientists, socialites and celebrities. He donated $30 million to finance scientific research at Harvard. President Bill Clinton and the actor Kevin Spacey flew aboard his private jet to Africa to discuss AIDS policy. Mr. Dershowitz also traveled on Mr. Epstein's plane and was invited to join his chats with Ehud Barak, the former Israeli prime minister. The men grew so close that Mr. Dershowitz solicited Mr. Epstein's feedback as he was writing books. In the interview in his Manhattan apartment, Mr. Dershowitz said Mr. Epstein was often surrounded by young women, but none struck him as underage. "I never got involved in his social life," he said. However, in late 2005, around the time when Mr. Dershowitz and his family were vacationing at Mr. Epstein's home, Palm Beach detectives were sifting through the trash outside. Acting on a tip, the authorities were investigating whether women working as assistants to Mr. Epstein were finding teenage girls to give him sexual massages. As the inquiry unfolded, detectives spoke with girls, some of whom were 15 or younger. After taking the case, Mr. Dershowitz responded, as was his way, with hardball tactics. He gathered information from the girls' postings on social media accounts, which he claimed showed they were drug users or had lied to Mr. Epstein about their age. He also helped put together a defense team that included Roy Black, the prominent trial lawyer, and Kenneth W. Starr, who led the investigation into President Bill Clinton's involvement with Monica Lewinsky. A local prosecutor, after meetings with Mr. Epstein's defense team, recommended that he be charged only with a misdemeanor. The chief of the Palm Beach police department was so outraged by the proposal that he wrote a letter to the Justice Department asking it to get involved in the case. Over time, authorities found evidence suggesting that Mr. Epstein had paid dozens of girls for sexual services. However, Mr. Dershowitz and other lawyers struck a deal in which Mr. Epstein agreed to plead guilty in a Florida court to one count of soliciting prostitution and another of procuring a person under 18 for prostitution. At the same time, federal officials agreed not to bring charges against Mr. Epstein or any of his potential co-conspirators. A Florida judge sentenced Mr. Epstein to 18 months in jail, though he was allowed to spend days working on the outside. He was released in 2009 after serving 13 months - a shortened sentence for good behavior - and had to register as a sex offender. [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/12/13/business/dershowitz-timeline-oj/dershowitz-timeline-oj-master495.jpg] OPEN Timeline For a criminal lawyer, the residue of a case can remain long after it ends. Twenty years ago, Mr. Dershowitz received death threats after he helped secure Mr. Simpson's acquittal on murder charges. And as a writer, he has imagined even worse plots. In one of his legal thrillers, "The Advocate's Devil," a lawyer discovers that a man for whom he had won an acquittal on rape charges is stalking his daughter. But Mr. Epstein's case has come back to haunt him in ways he never expected. "I have been criticized for the cases I've taken," he said, "but no one has ever criticized my personal life." The events that pulled him back into Mr. Epstein's orbit began unfolding in 2008. That year, two lawyers, Bradley J. Edwards and Paul G. Cassell, filed a lawsuit accusing the Justice Department of violating the rights of two women involved in Mr. Epstein's case by not allowing them to challenge his plea deal. Then, in 2011, a British newspaper, The Mail on Sunday, published an article about Virginia Roberts Giuffre, another of Mr. Epstein's accusers, who was then living in Australia. Ms. Giuffre, now a 32-year-old mother of three, told the newspaper that Mr. Epstein first started paying her for sexual services when she was 15. She also described traveling around the world on Mr. Epstein's jet. "Basically, I was training to be a prostitute for him and his friends who shared his interest in young girls," Ms. Giuffre told the newspaper. Soon afterward, the lawyers suing the Justice Department interviewed Ms. Giuffre and asked her if any of Mr. Epstein's friends might have information about his exploitation of girls. When they mentioned Mr. Dershowitz, she replied, "Yes," according to a transcript of the 2011 call. But last December, Mr. Dershowitz was drawn into the Justice Department lawsuit in an entirely different way. In a motion filed that month, Ms. Giuffre claimed that she and Mr. Dershowitz had sex when she was a minor aboard Mr. Epstein's plane and at the money manager's homes in New York, New Mexico and the Virgin Islands. She also asserted that Mr. Epstein had "sexually trafficked" her to other powerful friends, including Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. Buckingham Palace rejected the claims against the prince. The judge later struck Ms. Giuffre's motion from the court filing, but by then, the accusations were being widely reported and broadcast. Mr. Dershowitz's phone was ringing with calls from reporters seeking comment. At every opportunity, he called Ms. Giuffre's claims "outrageous falsehoods" and called the lawyers who had made the filing, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Cassell, "villains" who helped fabricate the claims against him. Mr. Dershowitz said he would seek to have them disbarred, adding he had diary records and other information to show he was not at locations where Ms. Giuffre claimed they had met. "They're prepared to lie, cheat and steal," Mr. Dershowitz said in an interview on CNN in January. The two lawyers, who declined to be interviewed for this article, filed a defamation lawsuit against Mr. Dershowitz, who responded with his own counterclaim. Mr. Boies's firm soon entered the fray. In late 2014, a lawyer at the firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, agreed to represent Ms. Giuffre in legal matters not directly related to the Justice Department lawsuit. When Mr. Dershowitz's name surfaced in that lawsuit, another lawyer at the firm agreed to represent him before realizing that Ms. Giuffre was already a client. After the lawyer withdrew, Mr. Dershowitz expressed anger, saying that he had already told the firm his legal strategy before he was made aware of the conflict. Mr. Boies called the claim frivolous. "This idea of going to the press and asserting there is a conflict when you are not willing to make that claim in court is irresponsible," said the lawyer, who is perhaps best known for representing the Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore against George W. Bush in his challenge to the 2000 election results. That incident, however, was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods. In October, during a deposition in the defamation case against him, Mr. Dershowitz testified that he had received a confidential phone call from a female friend of Ms. Giuffre, who provided him with troubling information. According to Mr. Dershowitz's testimony, the woman said that Ms. Giuffre had told her that she had been pressured to level sexual charges at Mr. Dershowitz. She also described a plan to accuse Mr. Wexner of having sex with Ms. Giuffre when she was underage. "Virginia and her lawyers hoped to get $1 billion, B-I-L-L-I-O-N, $1 billion or half of his net worth," Mr. Dershowitz testified he was told, calling the plan an "extortion" attempt. A lawyer for Mr. Wexner, John W. Zeiger, did not respond to telephone calls. But a person briefed on the matter but who was not authorized to speak publicly about it said that Mr. Wexner had never met Ms. Giuffre and no extortion attempt was made. Mr. Dershowitz says he wants nothing more than for Ms. Giuffre to publicly retract her claims. He insists that Mr. Boies privately told him that he believed Mr. Dershowitz was innocent and that Ms. Giuffre, while believing the allegations, was mistaken or confused. Mr. Boies says Mr. Dershowitz's claims are ludicrous. "I never said to him that I concluded that my clients' assertions were incorrect," he said. "I didn't say that. I didn't say anything like that." On Friday, Mr. Dershowitz filed an affidavit in a Florida state court, containing notes of his conversations with Mr. Boies that he says support his account. In it, he described Mr. Boies as telling him that if his client refused to withdraw her claim, "he could not ethically continue to represent her." Hours later, Mr. Boies's firm asked the Florida judge to seal Mr. Dershowitz's affidavit, and in a related filing, Mr. Boies described some of Mr. Dershowitz's assertions as "misleading" or "flatly untrue." In this intensifying game of legal chicken, it is not clear who will flinch first. Ms. Giuffre seems unwilling to yield and used a recent court filing to fire back at Mr. Dershowitz. "He is lying by denying that he had sex with me," said Ms. Giuffre, who declined to be interviewed for this article. Mr. Dershowitz says he is no longer friendly with Mr. Epstein, who lives once again in his lavish Upper East side mansion. Still, like it or not, the lawyer remains tethered to him. Having defended Mr. Epstein, he said that he could not express his feelings about him. Several well-known criminal defense lawyers said that personal attacks were an occupational hazard. "Alan has never shied away from a fight in his life," said Abbe D. Lowell, a lawyer in Washington whose clients have included the lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who was convicted of corruption in 2006. "He has been that kind of lightning rod." For a man who has never lacked for self-confidence, Mr. Dershowitz now finds himself saddled with regret. Two clients, he said, have backed away from him because of his accuser's claims, and he worries whether universities like Johns Hopkins will invite him to give speeches or present him with awards. He now says he thinks that he should have said no when Mr. Epstein called. "I think I do regret having taken the case in light of everything that has happened since," he said. "If I could give back the money I made in this case and have this episode of my life erased, I'd do it." (c) 2018 The New York Times Company Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss > On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 7:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 Dershowitz and Boies spar in 'an increasingly virulent war' over rape accusation By Debra Cassens Weiss Posted December 15, 2015, 7:46 am CST * * * inShare * * [Print.] Updated: Former Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz says he initially hesitated a decade ago when a friend sought his help fighting allegations that he paid underage girls to give him sexual massages. Dershowitz took the case anyway and arranged a plea deal for his client, wealthy money manager Jeffrey Epstein. Now Dershowitz is defending his own reputation after a lawsuit challenging the plea deal brought an accusation that he had sex with a woman when she was a minor, the New York Times reports. The accuser, represented by lawyer David Boies, never filed a complaint with police or a suit against Dershowitz. She testified in a suit claiming the Justice Department violated the rights of two women in Epstein's case by not allowing them to challenge the plea deal. The accusation led to "an increasingly virulent war" between Boies and Dershowitz, according to the New York Times. The woman's claims, Dershowitz has said, are "outrageous falsehoods," and two other lawyers who made the sex claim in a court filing are "villains." Those two lawyers, Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassell, alleged defamation in a suit against Dershowitz, who filed a counterclaim. "Over a five-decade career," the Times story says, "Dershowitz has represented some of America's most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson-that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost." Boies' firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, is representing the accuser pro bono in the defamation case as part of a program to assist victims of abuse, according to prior coverage by Reuters. The firm also discussed representing Dershowitz before the conflict was discovered, according to Dershowitz. He claims he wasn't made aware of the conflict until after he revealed his legal strategy to the firm. (Even if there was no attorney-client relationship formed, the firm could be disqualified if Dershowitz made confidential statements to the firm in contemplation of possible litigation, according to this post by the Faculty Lounge.) Boies responded that Dershowitz was "irresponsible" for making a conflict claim in the press without being willing to assert it in court. According to the New York Times story, the incident "was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods." Dershowitz claimed in a deposition in the defamation case that he received a phone call from a friend of the accuser, who said she was pressured to make the claim against Dershowitz and another friend of Epstein's in hopes of recovering $1 billion. Dershowitz also claims Boies privately told him he believed Dershowitz is innocent and his accuser is mistaken or confused. Dershowitz filed a court affidavit (PDF) claiming Boies told him he could not ethically continue to represent the woman if she did not withdraw her claim. The affidavit includes Dershowitz's contemporaneous notes of his conversations with Boies supporting his claims about Boies' statements. It also says that a mutual friend attended the meetings in which Boies made his comments. "Over the course of several conversations in person, over the phone, and on Skype," Dershowitz's affidavit says, "Mr. Boies repeatedly stated that he did not believe the allegations that [his client] had made against me were factually true." Boies denies making such a comment. "I never said to him that I concluded that my clients' assertions were incorrect," Boies told the Times. "I didn't say that. I didn't say anything like that." Dershowitz responded to Boies' denial in a statement to the ABA Journal. "I doubt that my friend David Boies will be willing to state under oath that he did not make the statements that I quote in my affidavit," Dershowitz said. "It's one thing to deny making them to the media. It's quite another thing to deny them under pains and penalties of perjury." Typo and missing period corrected at 9 a.m. Additional information about Dershowitz's affidavit and statement from Dershowitz added on Dec. 17. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 6:54 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. I really like this picture of Orgy Epstein, Dirty Dershowitz and Harvard. Just shows you that the sub silentio Motto of Harvard is: Cupiditas! As for #MeToo Dirty Dersh his Motto while travelling on Epstein's Lolita Express to and from Epstein's Orgy Island in order to cavort with underage girls, prostitutes and their Male Sexual Predators and Abusers with one of the girls alleging that #MeToo Dirty Dersh had abused her (last time I read being represented by David Boies and his law firm) is: Semper Ubi Sub Ubi! Be sure to wear your Tighty Whities for his events on April 26-on your head! Fab. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 834 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace On Behalf Of Susan Parenti via Peace Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:11 AM Subject: [Peace] Experimental Music to Commemorate Herbert Brün's 100th birthday, this Thursday/Friday Hi friends—This Thursday and Friday, at 7:30pm, in the New Music Building Auditorium, will be two different concerts of experimental music pieces, in relation to Herbert Brun’s 100th birthday. Arun Chandra, who teaches at Evergreen College in Olympia Washington. has been the primary organizer, and is coming with 10 of his students/performance ensemble players. There are also two concerts in Chicago this weekend, Saturday and Sunday, at Stefan Brün’s Prop Theater. If you want information on that, let me know. Thursday: 1. Infraudibles w Quintet (Evergreen) 2. Mutatis Mutandis (Eric Lund, Morgan Powell)) 3. Susan Parenti: Errata (Evergreen) 4. Infraudibles w Percussion(al Otte) 5. 3 pieces for snare (DeFotis, Otte, Brun) 6, Scott Wyatt: Still Hidden Laughs 7 Brun: On Stilts Among Ducks (Otte) Friday: 1. Floating Hierarchies (Evergreen) 2. Sever Tipei: HB with G&E 3. Brun: touch & Go (Otte) 4. Chandra: on the tip of my tongue 5. Otte: Time and Truth (Otte) 6. Brun: Dustiny 7. Janis Mercer: Letters (Evergreen) 8, Brun: Futility 1964 -- Susan Parenti Educational Coordinator The School for Designing a Society www.designingasociety.net Like us on Facebook! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ATT00001.txt URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Apr 10 14:36:27 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 14:36:27 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The article below goes back to 2015 and a decade ago. Yes, he is a dirtbag, these people whose goal is greed and power, usually are, anyone who thinks otherwise must be nine or ten. Our focus now, should be on Dershowitz warmongering, given he was on FOX news, just this past Sunday night, urging a military strike on Syria. Military strikes are responsible for many rapes and deaths of women and children, generally in the thousands, not to mention the total destruction of infrastructure leading to famine and disease. There is also, the potential for war with Russia, as a result. Our Pentagon is gearing up for further action in Syria because they have no intention of leaving, ever. Perpetual war is the goal. This is our focus in protesting this person with his support for destruction of the Palestinian people. On Apr 10, 2018, at 07:19, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her ConsortCIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. To put Dirty Dersh into perspective: Epstein’s Lolita-Express-Orgy-Island constituted Sexual Trafficking in Underage Girls and Women that verged upon Sexual Slavery, which is a Crime Against Humanity. Fb. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 11:14 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. Alan Dershowitz on the Defense (His Own) By BARRY MEIERDEC. 12, 2015 nytimes.com | Dec. 12, 2015 Last month, demonstrators at Johns Hopkins University interrupted Alan M. Dershowitz as he was giving a fiery speech defending Israel. The disruption normally would not have fazed Mr. Dershowitz, a former Harvard Law School professor who thrives on controversy and relishes taking on opponents in and out of the courtroom. The protesters, however, were not challenging his Middle East politics. Instead, they held up a sign reading, “You Are Rape Culture.” Mr. Dershowitz knew what it meant. A decade ago, he had defended a friend, a money manager named Jeffrey E. Epstein, after authorities in Palm Beach, Fla., found evidence indicating that he was paying underage girls to give him sexual massages. The lawyer led a scorched-earth attack on the girls and, with a team of high-priced lawyers, cut a plea deal for Mr. Epstein that the local police said was too lenient. Over a five-decade career, Mr. Dershowitz has represented some of America’s most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson — that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost. Last December, as part of a filing in an ongoing lawsuit, a woman charged that Mr. Dershowitz had sex with her when she was underage. Mr. Dershowitz called the claim an “outrageous lie” and over the last year has faced fallout from the accusation. “This is very serious,” Mr. Dershowitz said last month at his apartment in Manhattan. “It involves my life, my legacy, my career, my history, my reputation.” As he has defended that legacy, there has been a lawsuit, a counterclaim and even an accusation of an extortion plot against the billionaire Leslie H. Wexner, the chairman of L Brands, the retail empire that includes Victoria’s Secret and Henri Bendel. It also has pitted Mr. Dershowitz against another of the nation’s most famous lawyers, David Boies, who represents his accuser. The two lawyers are in an increasingly virulent war. In October, Mr. Dershowitz testified in a deposition that Mr. Boies had privately assured Mr. Dershowitz that he did not believe the claims of his client, Virginia Roberts Giuffre. “He said that he would not have taken this case if they had known she was going to accuse me,” Mr. Dershowitz said recently. Mr. Boies responded that he never made such a statement. “The only explanation I have is that he is so emotional about this that he starts saying things without being careful,” Mr. Boies said in an interview. “He has been someone whose approach in litigation is to attack the other side.” In recent weeks, efforts to resolve the thicket of legal actions have begun, but Mr. Dershowitz insists that any settlement must clear him of sexual wrongdoing. The woman accusing Mr. Dershowitz has not filed a complaint with the authorities or a lawsuit against him. Instead, her allegation first emerged in a lawsuit that challenged Mr. Epstein’s plea agreement. Mr. Dershowitz long taught his students that everyone, even those charged with the most heinous crimes, deserves a defense. But he now says he hesitated when Mr. Epstein called him in 2006 to ask for help because he was being investigated in connection with sex crimes. “I said, ‘Look, you know Jeffrey, we’re acquaintances, maybe that’s not such a great idea,” Mr. Dershowitz said. “He said, ‘No, no, no, I really need you to do this.’” The case, Mr. Dershowitz realized, “was right in my wheelhouse.” In December 2005, a few months before he got that phone call, Mr. Dershowitz, his wife, children and grandchildren were vacationing at Mr. Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion. The friendship between the men started in the mid-1990s on Martha’s Vineyard. Not long after they met, Mr. Epstein invited Mr. Dershowitz to a birthday party for Mr. Wexner. Instead of accepting presents, the retail magnate had a tradition of asking friends to bring the most interesting person they had met over the last year. “He said, ‘I’d like to bring you,’” Mr. Dershowitz said. By any measure, Mr. Dershowitz had led an interesting life. At 28, after clerking for a Supreme Court justice, Mr. Dershowitz became the youngest professor ever hired by Harvard Law School. It was outside the classroom, however, where his fame grew. He handled celebrated cases, appeared as television commentator and wrote many books, fiction and nonfiction. His account of the von Bulow case, “Reversal of Fortune,” was made into a film in 1990 in which the actor Ron Silver donned a bushy mustache and aviator glasses to play Mr. Dershowitz. Along with enjoying celebrity, Mr. Dershowitz has also relished excoriating those he considers foes. He has taken on journalists, chided universities for coddling students and has been relentless in his defense of Israel, for example, accusing the writer Alice Walker of bigotry for refusing to allow an Israeli publisher to translate her novel “The Color Purple.” Soon after meeting Mr. Epstein, Mr. Dershowitz became drawn into his rarefied world. Mr. Epstein was an enigmatic figure living in an Upper East Side mansion once owned by Mr. Wexner, who had reportedly been his mentor. A college dropout who once worked for Bear Stearns, Mr. Epstein said he handled investments for billionaires, though other than Mr. Wexner, he declined to identify them. Along with prominent businessmen, Mr. Epstein’s friends included scientists, socialites and celebrities. He donated $30 million to finance scientific research at Harvard. President Bill Clinton and the actor Kevin Spacey flew aboard his private jet to Africa to discuss AIDS policy. Mr. Dershowitz also traveled on Mr. Epstein’s plane and was invited to join his chats with Ehud Barak, the former Israeli prime minister. The men grew so close that Mr. Dershowitz solicited Mr. Epstein’s feedback as he was writing books. In the interview in his Manhattan apartment, Mr. Dershowitz said Mr. Epstein was often surrounded by young women, but none struck him as underage. “I never got involved in his social life,” he said. However, in late 2005, around the time when Mr. Dershowitz and his family were vacationing at Mr. Epstein’s home, Palm Beach detectives were sifting through the trash outside. Acting on a tip, the authorities were investigating whether women working as assistants to Mr. Epstein were finding teenage girls to give him sexual massages. As the inquiry unfolded, detectives spoke with girls, some of whom were 15 or younger. After taking the case, Mr. Dershowitz responded, as was his way, with hardball tactics. He gathered information from the girls’ postings on social media accounts, which he claimed showed they were drug users or had lied to Mr. Epstein about their age. He also helped put together a defense team that included Roy Black, the prominent trial lawyer, and Kenneth W. Starr, who led the investigation into President Bill Clinton’s involvement with Monica Lewinsky. A local prosecutor, after meetings with Mr. Epstein’s defense team, recommended that he be charged only with a misdemeanor. The chief of the Palm Beach police department was so outraged by the proposal that he wrote a letter to the Justice Department asking it to get involved in the case. Over time, authorities found evidence suggesting that Mr. Epstein had paid dozens of girls for sexual services. However, Mr. Dershowitz and other lawyers struck a deal in which Mr. Epstein agreed to plead guilty in a Florida court to one count of soliciting prostitution and another of procuring a person under 18 for prostitution. At the same time, federal officials agreed not to bring charges against Mr. Epstein or any of his potential co-conspirators. A Florida judge sentenced Mr. Epstein to 18 months in jail, though he was allowed to spend days working on the outside. He was released in 2009 after serving 13 months — a shortened sentence for good behavior — and had to register as a sex offender. OPEN Timeline For a criminal lawyer, the residue of a case can remain long after it ends. Twenty years ago, Mr. Dershowitz received death threats after he helped secure Mr. Simpson’s acquittal on murder charges. And as a writer, he has imagined even worse plots. In one of his legal thrillers, “The Advocate’s Devil,” a lawyer discovers that a man for whom he had won an acquittal on rape charges is stalking his daughter. But Mr. Epstein’s case has come back to haunt him in ways he never expected. “I have been criticized for the cases I’ve taken,” he said, “but no one has ever criticized my personal life.” The events that pulled him back into Mr. Epstein’s orbit began unfolding in 2008. That year, two lawyers, Bradley J. Edwards and Paul G. Cassell, filed a lawsuit accusing the Justice Department of violating the rights of two women involved in Mr. Epstein’s case by not allowing them to challenge his plea deal. Then, in 2011, a British newspaper, The Mail on Sunday, published an article about Virginia Roberts Giuffre, another of Mr. Epstein’s accusers, who was then living in Australia. Ms. Giuffre, now a 32-year-old mother of three, told the newspaper that Mr. Epstein first started paying her for sexual services when she was 15. She also described traveling around the world on Mr. Epstein’s jet. “Basically, I was training to be a prostitute for him and his friends who shared his interest in young girls,” Ms. Giuffre told the newspaper. Soon afterward, the lawyers suing the Justice Department interviewed Ms. Giuffre and asked her if any of Mr. Epstein’s friends might have information about his exploitation of girls. When they mentioned Mr. Dershowitz, she replied, “Yes,” according to a transcript of the 2011 call. But last December, Mr. Dershowitz was drawn into the Justice Department lawsuit in an entirely different way. In a motion filed that month, Ms. Giuffre claimed that she and Mr. Dershowitz had sex when she was a minor aboard Mr. Epstein’s plane and at the money manager’s homes in New York, New Mexico and the Virgin Islands. She also asserted that Mr. Epstein had “sexually trafficked” her to other powerful friends, including Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. Buckingham Palace rejected the claims against the prince. The judge later struck Ms. Giuffre’s motion from the court filing, but by then, the accusations were being widely reported and broadcast. Mr. Dershowitz’s phone was ringing with calls from reporters seeking comment. At every opportunity, he called Ms. Giuffre’s claims “outrageous falsehoods” and called the lawyers who had made the filing, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Cassell, “villains” who helped fabricate the claims against him. Mr. Dershowitz said he would seek to have them disbarred, adding he had diary records and other information to show he was not at locations where Ms. Giuffre claimed they had met. “They’re prepared to lie, cheat and steal,” Mr. Dershowitz said in an interview on CNN in January. The two lawyers, who declined to be interviewed for this article, filed a defamation lawsuit against Mr. Dershowitz, who responded with his own counterclaim. Mr. Boies’s firm soon entered the fray. In late 2014, a lawyer at the firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, agreed to represent Ms. Giuffre in legal matters not directly related to the Justice Department lawsuit. When Mr. Dershowitz’s name surfaced in that lawsuit, another lawyer at the firm agreed to represent him before realizing that Ms. Giuffre was already a client. After the lawyer withdrew, Mr. Dershowitz expressed anger, saying that he had already told the firm his legal strategy before he was made aware of the conflict. Mr. Boies called the claim frivolous. “This idea of going to the press and asserting there is a conflict when you are not willing to make that claim in court is irresponsible,” said the lawyer, who is perhaps best known for representing the Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore against George W. Bush in his challenge to the 2000 election results. That incident, however, was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods. In October, during a deposition in the defamation case against him, Mr. Dershowitz testified that he had received a confidential phone call from a female friend of Ms. Giuffre, who provided him with troubling information. According to Mr. Dershowitz’s testimony, the woman said that Ms. Giuffre had told her that she had been pressured to level sexual charges at Mr. Dershowitz. She also described a plan to accuse Mr. Wexner of having sex with Ms. Giuffre when she was underage. “Virginia and her lawyers hoped to get $1 billion, B-I-L-L-I-O-N, $1 billion or half of his net worth,” Mr. Dershowitz testified he was told, calling the plan an “extortion” attempt. A lawyer for Mr. Wexner, John W. Zeiger, did not respond to telephone calls. But a person briefed on the matter but who was not authorized to speak publicly about it said that Mr. Wexner had never met Ms. Giuffre and no extortion attempt was made. Mr. Dershowitz says he wants nothing more than for Ms. Giuffre to publicly retract her claims. He insists that Mr. Boies privately told him that he believed Mr. Dershowitz was innocent and that Ms. Giuffre, while believing the allegations, was mistaken or confused. Mr. Boies says Mr. Dershowitz’s claims are ludicrous. “I never said to him that I concluded that my clients’ assertions were incorrect,” he said. “I didn’t say that. I didn’t say anything like that.” On Friday, Mr. Dershowitz filed an affidavit in a Florida state court, containing notes of his conversations with Mr. Boies that he says support his account. In it, he described Mr. Boies as telling him that if his client refused to withdraw her claim, “he could not ethically continue to represent her.” Hours later, Mr. Boies’s firm asked the Florida judge to seal Mr. Dershowitz’s affidavit, and in a related filing, Mr. Boies described some of Mr. Dershowitz’s assertions as “misleading” or “flatly untrue.” In this intensifying game of legal chicken, it is not clear who will flinch first. Ms. Giuffre seems unwilling to yield and used a recent court filing to fire back at Mr. Dershowitz. “He is lying by denying that he had sex with me,” said Ms. Giuffre, who declined to be interviewed for this article. Mr. Dershowitz says he is no longer friendly with Mr. Epstein, who lives once again in his lavish Upper East side mansion. Still, like it or not, the lawyer remains tethered to him. Having defended Mr. Epstein, he said that he could not express his feelings about him. Several well-known criminal defense lawyers said that personal attacks were an occupational hazard. “Alan has never shied away from a fight in his life,” said Abbe D. Lowell, a lawyer in Washington whose clients have included the lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who was convicted of corruption in 2006. “He has been that kind of lightning rod.” For a man who has never lacked for self-confidence, Mr. Dershowitz now finds himself saddled with regret. Two clients, he said, have backed away from him because of his accuser’s claims, and he worries whether universities like Johns Hopkins will invite him to give speeches or present him with awards. He now says he thinks that he should have said no when Mr. Epstein called. “I think I do regret having taken the case in light of everything that has happened since,” he said. “If I could give back the money I made in this case and have this episode of my life erased, I’d do it.” © 2018 The New York Times Company Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss > On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 7:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 Dershowitz and Boies spar in 'an increasingly virulent war' over rape accusation BY DEBRA CASSENS WEISS POSTED DECEMBER 15, 2015, 7:46 AM CST • • • inShare • • Updated: Former Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz says he initially hesitated a decade ago when a friend sought his help fighting allegations that he paid underage girls to give him sexual massages. Dershowitz took the case anyway and arranged a plea deal for his client, wealthy money manager Jeffrey Epstein. Now Dershowitz is defending his own reputation after a lawsuit challenging the plea deal brought an accusation that he had sex with a woman when she was a minor, the New York Times reports. The accuser, represented by lawyer David Boies, never filed a complaint with police or a suit against Dershowitz. She testified in a suit claiming the Justice Department violated the rights of two women in Epstein’s case by not allowing them to challenge the plea deal. The accusation led to “an increasingly virulent war” between Boies and Dershowitz, according to the New York Times. The woman’s claims, Dershowitz has said, are “outrageous falsehoods,” and two other lawyers who made the sex claim in a court filing are “villains.” Those two lawyers, Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassell, alleged defamation in a suit against Dershowitz, who filed a counterclaim. “Over a five-decade career,” the Times story says, “Dershowitz has represented some of America’s most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson—that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost.” Boies’ firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, is representing the accuser pro bono in the defamation case as part of a program to assist victims of abuse, according to prior coverage by Reuters. The firm also discussed representing Dershowitz before the conflict was discovered, according to Dershowitz. He claims he wasn’t made aware of the conflict until after he revealed his legal strategy to the firm. (Even if there was no attorney-client relationship formed, the firm could be disqualified if Dershowitz made confidential statements to the firm in contemplation of possible litigation, according to this post by the Faculty Lounge.) Boies responded that Dershowitz was “irresponsible” for making a conflict claim in the press without being willing to assert it in court. According to the New York Times story, the incident “was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods.” Dershowitz claimed in a deposition in the defamation case that he received a phone call from a friend of the accuser, who said she was pressured to make the claim against Dershowitz and another friend of Epstein’s in hopes of recovering $1 billion. Dershowitz also claims Boies privately told him he believed Dershowitz is innocent and his accuser is mistaken or confused. Dershowitz filed a court affidavit(PDF) claiming Boies told him he could not ethically continue to represent the woman if she did not withdraw her claim. The affidavit includes Dershowitz’s contemporaneous notes of his conversations with Boies supporting his claims about Boies’ statements. It also says that a mutual friend attended the meetings in which Boies made his comments. “Over the course of several conversations in person, over the phone, and on Skype,” Dershowitz’s affidavit says, “Mr. Boies repeatedly stated that he did not believe the allegations that [his client] had made against me were factually true.” Boies denies making such a comment. “I never said to him that I concluded that my clients’ assertions were incorrect,” Boies told the Times. “I didn’t say that. I didn’t say anything like that.” Dershowitz responded to Boies’ denial in a statement to the ABA Journal. “I doubt that my friend David Boies will be willing to state under oath that he did not make the statements that I quote in my affidavit,” Dershowitz said. “It’s one thing to deny making them to the media. It’s quite another thing to deny them under pains and penalties of perjury.” Typo and missing period corrected at 9 a.m. Additional information about Dershowitz’s affidavit and statement from Dershowitz added on Dec. 17. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 6:54 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. I really like this picture of Orgy Epstein, Dirty Dershowitz and Harvard. Just shows you that the sub silentio Motto of Harvard is: Cupiditas! As for #MeToo Dirty Dersh his Motto while travelling on Epstein’s Lolita Express to and from Epstein’s Orgy Island in order to cavort with underage girls, prostitutes and their Male Sexual Predators and Abusers with one of the girls alleging that #MeToo Dirty Dersh had abused her (last time I read being represented by David Boies and his law firm) is: Semper Ubi Sub Ubi! Be sure to wear your Tighty Whities for his events on April 26—on your head! Fab. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Fab Alan Dershowitz Retires From Harvard Law School By Francis Boyle 21 December, 2013 Countercurrents.org Alan Dershowitz, a prominent advocate for Israel, is retiring from Harvard Law School. Dershowitz Accused of War Crimes - On one issue-the Jewish settlements in the occupied lands-Israel has {already} been found, by an international court, to be in violation of international law. This has caused a firestorm of reaction from Israel, and its apologists, like Harvard's Alan Dershowitz. But, Francis Boyle and a number of other American human rights advocates have taken on Dershowitz on, and are ready to do it again. The settlements are "clearly illegal and criminal," said Boyle. "All the settlements, as the World Court ruled in the advisory opinion on the [Separation] Wall, all these settlements violate the Fourth Geneva Convention, and a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention is a war crime. All these so-called settlers are committing war crimes, except the children, who are obviously not old enough to formulate a criminal intent. "Indeed, Alan Dershowitz began attacking the World Court for this ruling and attacking their credibility, and this, that, and the other. "Well, Dershowitz is not a trained international lawyer; he's not a trained human rights lawyer. I debated him once, and he sort of gratuitously conceded that I was the expert on these subjects. "But in any event, what Dershowitz was not aware of, was that in the advisory committee proceedings, the American judge, Thomas Buergenthal, {who is a Holocaust survivor, himself}, joined the ruling-he dissented against a lot of other things by the World Court [International Court of Justice]-but Judge Buergenthal ruled that the settlements violate the Fourth Geneva Convention. And to Judge Buergenthal's credit-I've known him for many years; I have a lot of respect and admiration for him-he made this ruling. "So, in other words, Dershowitz was attacking the integrity of a Holocaust survivor. But of course, that doesn't surprise me: He attacked [Prof.] Norman Finkelstein's mother; he also attacked Prof. Israel Shahak, one of the leaders of the peace movement in Israel, himself a Holocaust survivor, unfortunately, no longer with us, but a great man. "I've dealt with [Shahak], I have great respect, and indeed, he was going to have a lecture tour here in the United States, in, I guess, the Fall of 1990, and he was coming to speak in Champaign, [Ill.], and the organizers of his lecture tour asked me if I would put him up in my home as my guest, in order to conserve on expenses, and I agreed. And I was greatly looking forward again to meeting Professor Shahak.... But as you know, with the Gulf crisis, Professor Shahak decided to cancel his lecture tour and stay home with his own people, which was certainly understandable. "Dershowitz couldn't care less. Whatever kind of outright character assassination he has to apply to anyone, even Holocaust survivors like Judge Buergenthal, Professor Shahak, Norman Finkelstein's mother, it doesn't bother Dershowitz. Indeed, my understanding is, he's trying to run to become President of Israel, to take Peres's place. Well, fine, it would be great to get him out of Harvard Law School-my dis-alma mater!-and ship him over to Israel with all the other war criminals over there. "In fact, I say that, because Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. "You can find that article on counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan. Well, the Palestinians are all protected persons under the Fourth Geneva Convention, and for Dershowitz to authorize their murder is a war crime. So, Dershowitz is a {prima facie} war criminal, who should be prosecuted himself. "And there he is, teaching at the Harvard Law School, and advocating torture, crimes against humanity, war crimes against the Palestinians. As you know, he said, `Well, we should just be obliterating their villages. You know, if they do this, there's a terror bombing here, we [should] destroy one of their villages.' "And, of course, Dershowitz also advocates torture here, in America. The guy's shameless. "I remember, [when] I started [at Harvard], Dershowitz started as an assistant professor, and his first big case was defending a pornographic film star in `Deep Throat.' Dershowitz likes to present himself as some great defender of the First Amendment.... Well, as Catherine McKinnon has, I think, taught us all, pornography is a form of violence against women: It's a human rights matter. So, it doesn't surprise me that Dershowitz started his career defending pornographers and pornography, and was and still is greatly proud of it-and now he moves on to defending war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide, and in addition, over the years, became a war criminal himself. "But the sum of it is, he's still teaching there at Harvard Law School. So, I hope he goes back to Israel and becomes President, sure! Be great to see him go: Bon voyage." Professor Francis A. Boyle is an international law expert and served as Legal Advisor to the Palestine Liberation Organization and Yasser Arafat on the 1988 Palestinian Declaration of Independence, as well as to the Palestinian Delegation to the Middle East Peace Negotiations from 1991 to 1993, where he drafted the Palestinian counter-offer to the now defunct Oslo Agreement. His books include “ Palestine, Palestinians and International Law” (2003), and “ The Palestinian Right of Return under International Law” (2010). ________________________________ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 6:16 PM To: Killeacle Subject: Dershowitz Retires from Harvard Law School News Alan Dershowitz Retires From Harvard Law School CounterCurrents.org Professor Francis A. Boyle is an international law expert and served as Legal Advisor to the Palestine Liberation Organization and Yasser Arafat on ... See all stories on this topic » Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:36 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" The article below goes back to 2015 and a decade ago. Yes, he is a dirtbag, these people whose goal is greed and power, usually are, anyone who thinks otherwise must be nine or ten. Our focus now, should be on Dershowitz warmongering, given he was on FOX news, just this past Sunday night, urging a military strike on Syria. Military strikes are responsible for many rapes and deaths of women and children, generally in the thousands, not to mention the total destruction of infrastructure leading to famine and disease. There is also, the potential for war with Russia, as a result. Our Pentagon is gearing up for further action in Syria because they have no intention of leaving, ever. Perpetual war is the goal. This is our focus in protesting this person with his support for destruction of the Palestinian people. On Apr 10, 2018, at 07:19, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her ConsortCIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. To put Dirty Dersh into perspective: Epstein’s Lolita-Express-Orgy-Island constituted Sexual Trafficking in Underage Girls and Women that verged upon Sexual Slavery, which is a Crime Against Humanity. Fb. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 11:14 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. Alan Dershowitz on the Defense (His Own) By BARRY MEIERDEC. 12, 2015 nytimes.com | Dec. 12, 2015 Last month, demonstrators at Johns Hopkins University interrupted Alan M. Dershowitz as he was giving a fiery speech defending Israel. The disruption normally would not have fazed Mr. Dershowitz, a former Harvard Law School professor who thrives on controversy and relishes taking on opponents in and out of the courtroom. The protesters, however, were not challenging his Middle East politics. Instead, they held up a sign reading, “You Are Rape Culture.” Mr. Dershowitz knew what it meant. A decade ago, he had defended a friend, a money manager named Jeffrey E. Epstein, after authorities in Palm Beach, Fla., found evidence indicating that he was paying underage girls to give him sexual massages. The lawyer led a scorched-earth attack on the girls and, with a team of high-priced lawyers, cut a plea deal for Mr. Epstein that the local police said was too lenient. Over a five-decade career, Mr. Dershowitz has represented some of America’s most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson — that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost. Last December, as part of a filing in an ongoing lawsuit, a woman charged that Mr. Dershowitz had sex with her when she was underage. Mr. Dershowitz called the claim an “outrageous lie” and over the last year has faced fallout from the accusation. “This is very serious,” Mr. Dershowitz said last month at his apartment in Manhattan. “It involves my life, my legacy, my career, my history, my reputation.” As he has defended that legacy, there has been a lawsuit, a counterclaim and even an accusation of an extortion plot against the billionaire Leslie H. Wexner, the chairman of L Brands, the retail empire that includes Victoria’s Secret and Henri Bendel. It also has pitted Mr. Dershowitz against another of the nation’s most famous lawyers, David Boies, who represents his accuser. The two lawyers are in an increasingly virulent war. In October, Mr. Dershowitz testified in a deposition that Mr. Boies had privately assured Mr. Dershowitz that he did not believe the claims of his client, Virginia Roberts Giuffre. “He said that he would not have taken this case if they had known she was going to accuse me,” Mr. Dershowitz said recently. Mr. Boies responded that he never made such a statement. “The only explanation I have is that he is so emotional about this that he starts saying things without being careful,” Mr. Boies said in an interview. “He has been someone whose approach in litigation is to attack the other side.” In recent weeks, efforts to resolve the thicket of legal actions have begun, but Mr. Dershowitz insists that any settlement must clear him of sexual wrongdoing. The woman accusing Mr. Dershowitz has not filed a complaint with the authorities or a lawsuit against him. Instead, her allegation first emerged in a lawsuit that challenged Mr. Epstein’s plea agreement. Mr. Dershowitz long taught his students that everyone, even those charged with the most heinous crimes, deserves a defense. But he now says he hesitated when Mr. Epstein called him in 2006 to ask for help because he was being investigated in connection with sex crimes. “I said, ‘Look, you know Jeffrey, we’re acquaintances, maybe that’s not such a great idea,” Mr. Dershowitz said. “He said, ‘No, no, no, I really need you to do this.’” The case, Mr. Dershowitz realized, “was right in my wheelhouse.” In December 2005, a few months before he got that phone call, Mr. Dershowitz, his wife, children and grandchildren were vacationing at Mr. Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion. The friendship between the men started in the mid-1990s on Martha’s Vineyard. Not long after they met, Mr. Epstein invited Mr. Dershowitz to a birthday party for Mr. Wexner. Instead of accepting presents, the retail magnate had a tradition of asking friends to bring the most interesting person they had met over the last year. “He said, ‘I’d like to bring you,’” Mr. Dershowitz said. By any measure, Mr. Dershowitz had led an interesting life. At 28, after clerking for a Supreme Court justice, Mr. Dershowitz became the youngest professor ever hired by Harvard Law School. It was outside the classroom, however, where his fame grew. He handled celebrated cases, appeared as television commentator and wrote many books, fiction and nonfiction. His account of the von Bulow case, “Reversal of Fortune,” was made into a film in 1990 in which the actor Ron Silver donned a bushy mustache and aviator glasses to play Mr. Dershowitz. Along with enjoying celebrity, Mr. Dershowitz has also relished excoriating those he considers foes. He has taken on journalists, chided universities for coddling students and has been relentless in his defense of Israel, for example, accusing the writer Alice Walker of bigotry for refusing to allow an Israeli publisher to translate her novel “The Color Purple.” Soon after meeting Mr. Epstein, Mr. Dershowitz became drawn into his rarefied world. Mr. Epstein was an enigmatic figure living in an Upper East Side mansion once owned by Mr. Wexner, who had reportedly been his mentor. A college dropout who once worked for Bear Stearns, Mr. Epstein said he handled investments for billionaires, though other than Mr. Wexner, he declined to identify them. Along with prominent businessmen, Mr. Epstein’s friends included scientists, socialites and celebrities. He donated $30 million to finance scientific research at Harvard. President Bill Clinton and the actor Kevin Spacey flew aboard his private jet to Africa to discuss AIDS policy. Mr. Dershowitz also traveled on Mr. Epstein’s plane and was invited to join his chats with Ehud Barak, the former Israeli prime minister. The men grew so close that Mr. Dershowitz solicited Mr. Epstein’s feedback as he was writing books. In the interview in his Manhattan apartment, Mr. Dershowitz said Mr. Epstein was often surrounded by young women, but none struck him as underage. “I never got involved in his social life,” he said. However, in late 2005, around the time when Mr. Dershowitz and his family were vacationing at Mr. Epstein’s home, Palm Beach detectives were sifting through the trash outside. Acting on a tip, the authorities were investigating whether women working as assistants to Mr. Epstein were finding teenage girls to give him sexual massages. As the inquiry unfolded, detectives spoke with girls, some of whom were 15 or younger. After taking the case, Mr. Dershowitz responded, as was his way, with hardball tactics. He gathered information from the girls’ postings on social media accounts, which he claimed showed they were drug users or had lied to Mr. Epstein about their age. He also helped put together a defense team that included Roy Black, the prominent trial lawyer, and Kenneth W. Starr, who led the investigation into President Bill Clinton’s involvement with Monica Lewinsky. A local prosecutor, after meetings with Mr. Epstein’s defense team, recommended that he be charged only with a misdemeanor. The chief of the Palm Beach police department was so outraged by the proposal that he wrote a letter to the Justice Department asking it to get involved in the case. Over time, authorities found evidence suggesting that Mr. Epstein had paid dozens of girls for sexual services. However, Mr. Dershowitz and other lawyers struck a deal in which Mr. Epstein agreed to plead guilty in a Florida court to one count of soliciting prostitution and another of procuring a person under 18 for prostitution. At the same time, federal officials agreed not to bring charges against Mr. Epstein or any of his potential co-conspirators. A Florida judge sentenced Mr. Epstein to 18 months in jail, though he was allowed to spend days working on the outside. He was released in 2009 after serving 13 months — a shortened sentence for good behavior — and had to register as a sex offender. OPEN Timeline For a criminal lawyer, the residue of a case can remain long after it ends. Twenty years ago, Mr. Dershowitz received death threats after he helped secure Mr. Simpson’s acquittal on murder charges. And as a writer, he has imagined even worse plots. In one of his legal thrillers, “The Advocate’s Devil,” a lawyer discovers that a man for whom he had won an acquittal on rape charges is stalking his daughter. But Mr. Epstein’s case has come back to haunt him in ways he never expected. “I have been criticized for the cases I’ve taken,” he said, “but no one has ever criticized my personal life.” The events that pulled him back into Mr. Epstein’s orbit began unfolding in 2008. That year, two lawyers, Bradley J. Edwards and Paul G. Cassell, filed a lawsuit accusing the Justice Department of violating the rights of two women involved in Mr. Epstein’s case by not allowing them to challenge his plea deal. Then, in 2011, a British newspaper, The Mail on Sunday, published an article about Virginia Roberts Giuffre, another of Mr. Epstein’s accusers, who was then living in Australia. Ms. Giuffre, now a 32-year-old mother of three, told the newspaper that Mr. Epstein first started paying her for sexual services when she was 15. She also described traveling around the world on Mr. Epstein’s jet. “Basically, I was training to be a prostitute for him and his friends who shared his interest in young girls,” Ms. Giuffre told the newspaper. Soon afterward, the lawyers suing the Justice Department interviewed Ms. Giuffre and asked her if any of Mr. Epstein’s friends might have information about his exploitation of girls. When they mentioned Mr. Dershowitz, she replied, “Yes,” according to a transcript of the 2011 call. But last December, Mr. Dershowitz was drawn into the Justice Department lawsuit in an entirely different way. In a motion filed that month, Ms. Giuffre claimed that she and Mr. Dershowitz had sex when she was a minor aboard Mr. Epstein’s plane and at the money manager’s homes in New York, New Mexico and the Virgin Islands. She also asserted that Mr. Epstein had “sexually trafficked” her to other powerful friends, including Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. Buckingham Palace rejected the claims against the prince. The judge later struck Ms. Giuffre’s motion from the court filing, but by then, the accusations were being widely reported and broadcast. Mr. Dershowitz’s phone was ringing with calls from reporters seeking comment. At every opportunity, he called Ms. Giuffre’s claims “outrageous falsehoods” and called the lawyers who had made the filing, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Cassell, “villains” who helped fabricate the claims against him. Mr. Dershowitz said he would seek to have them disbarred, adding he had diary records and other information to show he was not at locations where Ms. Giuffre claimed they had met. “They’re prepared to lie, cheat and steal,” Mr. Dershowitz said in an interview on CNN in January. The two lawyers, who declined to be interviewed for this article, filed a defamation lawsuit against Mr. Dershowitz, who responded with his own counterclaim. Mr. Boies’s firm soon entered the fray. In late 2014, a lawyer at the firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, agreed to represent Ms. Giuffre in legal matters not directly related to the Justice Department lawsuit. When Mr. Dershowitz’s name surfaced in that lawsuit, another lawyer at the firm agreed to represent him before realizing that Ms. Giuffre was already a client. After the lawyer withdrew, Mr. Dershowitz expressed anger, saying that he had already told the firm his legal strategy before he was made aware of the conflict. Mr. Boies called the claim frivolous. “This idea of going to the press and asserting there is a conflict when you are not willing to make that claim in court is irresponsible,” said the lawyer, who is perhaps best known for representing the Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore against George W. Bush in his challenge to the 2000 election results. That incident, however, was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods. In October, during a deposition in the defamation case against him, Mr. Dershowitz testified that he had received a confidential phone call from a female friend of Ms. Giuffre, who provided him with troubling information. According to Mr. Dershowitz’s testimony, the woman said that Ms. Giuffre had told her that she had been pressured to level sexual charges at Mr. Dershowitz. She also described a plan to accuse Mr. Wexner of having sex with Ms. Giuffre when she was underage. “Virginia and her lawyers hoped to get $1 billion, B-I-L-L-I-O-N, $1 billion or half of his net worth,” Mr. Dershowitz testified he was told, calling the plan an “extortion” attempt. A lawyer for Mr. Wexner, John W. Zeiger, did not respond to telephone calls. But a person briefed on the matter but who was not authorized to speak publicly about it said that Mr. Wexner had never met Ms. Giuffre and no extortion attempt was made. Mr. Dershowitz says he wants nothing more than for Ms. Giuffre to publicly retract her claims. He insists that Mr. Boies privately told him that he believed Mr. Dershowitz was innocent and that Ms. Giuffre, while believing the allegations, was mistaken or confused. Mr. Boies says Mr. Dershowitz’s claims are ludicrous. “I never said to him that I concluded that my clients’ assertions were incorrect,” he said. “I didn’t say that. I didn’t say anything like that.” On Friday, Mr. Dershowitz filed an affidavit in a Florida state court, containing notes of his conversations with Mr. Boies that he says support his account. In it, he described Mr. Boies as telling him that if his client refused to withdraw her claim, “he could not ethically continue to represent her.” Hours later, Mr. Boies’s firm asked the Florida judge to seal Mr. Dershowitz’s affidavit, and in a related filing, Mr. Boies described some of Mr. Dershowitz’s assertions as “misleading” or “flatly untrue.” In this intensifying game of legal chicken, it is not clear who will flinch first. Ms. Giuffre seems unwilling to yield and used a recent court filing to fire back at Mr. Dershowitz. “He is lying by denying that he had sex with me,” said Ms. Giuffre, who declined to be interviewed for this article. Mr. Dershowitz says he is no longer friendly with Mr. Epstein, who lives once again in his lavish Upper East side mansion. Still, like it or not, the lawyer remains tethered to him. Having defended Mr. Epstein, he said that he could not express his feelings about him. Several well-known criminal defense lawyers said that personal attacks were an occupational hazard. “Alan has never shied away from a fight in his life,” said Abbe D. Lowell, a lawyer in Washington whose clients have included the lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who was convicted of corruption in 2006. “He has been that kind of lightning rod.” For a man who has never lacked for self-confidence, Mr. Dershowitz now finds himself saddled with regret. Two clients, he said, have backed away from him because of his accuser’s claims, and he worries whether universities like Johns Hopkins will invite him to give speeches or present him with awards. He now says he thinks that he should have said no when Mr. Epstein called. “I think I do regret having taken the case in light of everything that has happened since,” he said. “If I could give back the money I made in this case and have this episode of my life erased, I’d do it.” © 2018 The New York Times Company Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss > On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 7:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 Dershowitz and Boies spar in 'an increasingly virulent war' over rape accusation BY DEBRA CASSENS WEISS POSTED DECEMBER 15, 2015, 7:46 AM CST • • • inShare • • Updated: Former Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz says he initially hesitated a decade ago when a friend sought his help fighting allegations that he paid underage girls to give him sexual massages. Dershowitz took the case anyway and arranged a plea deal for his client, wealthy money manager Jeffrey Epstein. Now Dershowitz is defending his own reputation after a lawsuit challenging the plea deal brought an accusation that he had sex with a woman when she was a minor, the New York Times reports. The accuser, represented by lawyer David Boies, never filed a complaint with police or a suit against Dershowitz. She testified in a suit claiming the Justice Department violated the rights of two women in Epstein’s case by not allowing them to challenge the plea deal. The accusation led to “an increasingly virulent war” between Boies and Dershowitz, according to the New York Times. The woman’s claims, Dershowitz has said, are “outrageous falsehoods,” and two other lawyers who made the sex claim in a court filing are “villains.” Those two lawyers, Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassell, alleged defamation in a suit against Dershowitz, who filed a counterclaim. “Over a five-decade career,” the Times story says, “Dershowitz has represented some of America’s most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson—that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost.” Boies’ firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, is representing the accuser pro bono in the defamation case as part of a program to assist victims of abuse, according to prior coverage by Reuters. The firm also discussed representing Dershowitz before the conflict was discovered, according to Dershowitz. He claims he wasn’t made aware of the conflict until after he revealed his legal strategy to the firm. (Even if there was no attorney-client relationship formed, the firm could be disqualified if Dershowitz made confidential statements to the firm in contemplation of possible litigation, according to this post by the Faculty Lounge.) Boies responded that Dershowitz was “irresponsible” for making a conflict claim in the press without being willing to assert it in court. According to the New York Times story, the incident “was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods.” Dershowitz claimed in a deposition in the defamation case that he received a phone call from a friend of the accuser, who said she was pressured to make the claim against Dershowitz and another friend of Epstein’s in hopes of recovering $1 billion. Dershowitz also claims Boies privately told him he believed Dershowitz is innocent and his accuser is mistaken or confused. Dershowitz filed a court affidavit(PDF) claiming Boies told him he could not ethically continue to represent the woman if she did not withdraw her claim. The affidavit includes Dershowitz’s contemporaneous notes of his conversations with Boies supporting his claims about Boies’ statements. It also says that a mutual friend attended the meetings in which Boies made his comments. “Over the course of several conversations in person, over the phone, and on Skype,” Dershowitz’s affidavit says, “Mr. Boies repeatedly stated that he did not believe the allegations that [his client] had made against me were factually true.” Boies denies making such a comment. “I never said to him that I concluded that my clients’ assertions were incorrect,” Boies told the Times. “I didn’t say that. I didn’t say anything like that.” Dershowitz responded to Boies’ denial in a statement to the ABA Journal. “I doubt that my friend David Boies will be willing to state under oath that he did not make the statements that I quote in my affidavit,” Dershowitz said. “It’s one thing to deny making them to the media. It’s quite another thing to deny them under pains and penalties of perjury.” Typo and missing period corrected at 9 a.m. Additional information about Dershowitz’s affidavit and statement from Dershowitz added on Dec. 17. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 6:54 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. I really like this picture of Orgy Epstein, Dirty Dershowitz and Harvard. Just shows you that the sub silentio Motto of Harvard is: Cupiditas! As for #MeToo Dirty Dersh his Motto while travelling on Epstein’s Lolita Express to and from Epstein’s Orgy Island in order to cavort with underage girls, prostitutes and their Male Sexual Predators and Abusers with one of the girls alleging that #MeToo Dirty Dersh had abused her (last time I read being represented by David Boies and his law firm) is: Semper Ubi Sub Ubi! Be sure to wear your Tighty Whities for his events on April 26—on your head! Fab. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Apr 10 15:42:33 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:42:33 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" Message-ID: https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her ConsortCIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. For the record, last I read, this girl (now a woman) is still pursuing legal action against Dirty Dersh by means of her attorney, David Boies, for allegedly raping her. Boies is one of the top trial lawyers in the country, having won the Right to Gay Marriage at the US Supreme Court. But if some people don’t want to protest Dirty Dersh for that reason and just want to protest him on grounds of warmongering, torture-mongering and being a self-incriminated war criminal against Palestinians,that is fine with me. Everyone has to do what your conscience tells you to do. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:55 AM To: 'Karen Aram' Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" With all due respect to you, I think we can chew gum and walk at the same time. Fab Alan Dershowitz Retires From Harvard Law School By Francis Boyle 21 December, 2013 Countercurrents.org Alan Dershowitz, a prominent advocate for Israel, is retiring from Harvard Law School. Dershowitz Accused of War Crimes - On one issue-the Jewish settlements in the occupied lands-Israel has {already} been found, by an international court, to be in violation of international law. This has caused a firestorm of reaction from Israel, and its apologists, like Harvard's Alan Dershowitz. But, Francis Boyle and a number of other American human rights advocates have taken on Dershowitz on, and are ready to do it again. The settlements are "clearly illegal and criminal," said Boyle. "All the settlements, as the World Court ruled in the advisory opinion on the [Separation] Wall, all these settlements violate the Fourth Geneva Convention, and a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention is a war crime. All these so-called settlers are committing war crimes, except the children, who are obviously not old enough to formulate a criminal intent. "Indeed, Alan Dershowitz began attacking the World Court for this ruling and attacking their credibility, and this, that, and the other. "Well, Dershowitz is not a trained international lawyer; he's not a trained human rights lawyer. I debated him once, and he sort of gratuitously conceded that I was the expert on these subjects. "But in any event, what Dershowitz was not aware of, was that in the advisory committee proceedings, the American judge, Thomas Buergenthal, {who is a Holocaust survivor, himself}, joined the ruling-he dissented against a lot of other things by the World Court [International Court of Justice]-but Judge Buergenthal ruled that the settlements violate the Fourth Geneva Convention. And to Judge Buergenthal's credit-I've known him for many years; I have a lot of respect and admiration for him-he made this ruling. "So, in other words, Dershowitz was attacking the integrity of a Holocaust survivor. But of course, that doesn't surprise me: He attacked [Prof.] Norman Finkelstein's mother; he also attacked Prof. Israel Shahak, one of the leaders of the peace movement in Israel, himself a Holocaust survivor, unfortunately, no longer with us, but a great man. "I've dealt with [Shahak], I have great respect, and indeed, he was going to have a lecture tour here in the United States, in, I guess, the Fall of 1990, and he was coming to speak in Champaign, [Ill.], and the organizers of his lecture tour asked me if I would put him up in my home as my guest, in order to conserve on expenses, and I agreed. And I was greatly looking forward again to meeting Professor Shahak.... But as you know, with the Gulf crisis, Professor Shahak decided to cancel his lecture tour and stay home with his own people, which was certainly understandable. "Dershowitz couldn't care less. Whatever kind of outright character assassination he has to apply to anyone, even Holocaust survivors like Judge Buergenthal, Professor Shahak, Norman Finkelstein's mother, it doesn't bother Dershowitz. Indeed, my understanding is, he's trying to run to become President of Israel, to take Peres's place. Well, fine, it would be great to get him out of Harvard Law School-my dis-alma mater!-and ship him over to Israel with all the other war criminals over there. "In fact, I say that, because Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. "You can find that article on counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan. Well, the Palestinians are all protected persons under the Fourth Geneva Convention, and for Dershowitz to authorize their murder is a war crime. So, Dershowitz is a {prima facie} war criminal, who should be prosecuted himself. "And there he is, teaching at the Harvard Law School, and advocating torture, crimes against humanity, war crimes against the Palestinians. As you know, he said, `Well, we should just be obliterating their villages. You know, if they do this, there's a terror bombing here, we [should] destroy one of their villages.' "And, of course, Dershowitz also advocates torture here, in America. The guy's shameless. "I remember, [when] I started [at Harvard], Dershowitz started as an assistant professor, and his first big case was defending a pornographic film star in `Deep Throat.' Dershowitz likes to present himself as some great defender of the First Amendment.... Well, as Catherine McKinnon has, I think, taught us all, pornography is a form of violence against women: It's a human rights matter. So, it doesn't surprise me that Dershowitz started his career defending pornographers and pornography, and was and still is greatly proud of it-and now he moves on to defending war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide, and in addition, over the years, became a war criminal himself. "But the sum of it is, he's still teaching there at Harvard Law School. So, I hope he goes back to Israel and becomes President, sure! Be great to see him go: Bon voyage." Professor Francis A. Boyle is an international law expert and served as Legal Advisor to the Palestine Liberation Organization and Yasser Arafat on the 1988 Palestinian Declaration of Independence, as well as to the Palestinian Delegation to the Middle East Peace Negotiations from 1991 to 1993, where he drafted the Palestinian counter-offer to the now defunct Oslo Agreement. His books include “ Palestine, Palestinians and International Law” (2003), and “ The Palestinian Right of Return under International Law” (2010). ________________________________ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 6:16 PM To: Killeacle Subject: Dershowitz Retires from Harvard Law School News Alan Dershowitz Retires From Harvard Law School CounterCurrents.org Professor Francis A. Boyle is an international law expert and served as Legal Advisor to the Palestine Liberation Organization and Yasser Arafat on ... See all stories on this topic » Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:36 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" The article below goes back to 2015 and a decade ago. Yes, he is a dirtbag, these people whose goal is greed and power, usually are, anyone who thinks otherwise must be nine or ten. Our focus now, should be on Dershowitz warmongering, given he was on FOX news, just this past Sunday night, urging a military strike on Syria. Military strikes are responsible for many rapes and deaths of women and children, generally in the thousands, not to mention the total destruction of infrastructure leading to famine and disease. There is also, the potential for war with Russia, as a result. Our Pentagon is gearing up for further action in Syria because they have no intention of leaving, ever. Perpetual war is the goal. This is our focus in protesting this person with his support for destruction of the Palestinian people. On Apr 10, 2018, at 07:19, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her ConsortCIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. To put Dirty Dersh into perspective: Epstein’s Lolita-Express-Orgy-Island constituted Sexual Trafficking in Underage Girls and Women that verged upon Sexual Slavery, which is a Crime Against Humanity. Fb. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 11:14 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. Alan Dershowitz on the Defense (His Own) By BARRY MEIERDEC. 12, 2015 nytimes.com | Dec. 12, 2015 Last month, demonstrators at Johns Hopkins University interrupted Alan M. Dershowitz as he was giving a fiery speech defending Israel. The disruption normally would not have fazed Mr. Dershowitz, a former Harvard Law School professor who thrives on controversy and relishes taking on opponents in and out of the courtroom. The protesters, however, were not challenging his Middle East politics. Instead, they held up a sign reading, “You Are Rape Culture.” Mr. Dershowitz knew what it meant. A decade ago, he had defended a friend, a money manager named Jeffrey E. Epstein, after authorities in Palm Beach, Fla., found evidence indicating that he was paying underage girls to give him sexual massages. The lawyer led a scorched-earth attack on the girls and, with a team of high-priced lawyers, cut a plea deal for Mr. Epstein that the local police said was too lenient. Over a five-decade career, Mr. Dershowitz has represented some of America’s most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson — that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost. Last December, as part of a filing in an ongoing lawsuit, a woman charged that Mr. Dershowitz had sex with her when she was underage. Mr. Dershowitz called the claim an “outrageous lie” and over the last year has faced fallout from the accusation. “This is very serious,” Mr. Dershowitz said last month at his apartment in Manhattan. “It involves my life, my legacy, my career, my history, my reputation.” As he has defended that legacy, there has been a lawsuit, a counterclaim and even an accusation of an extortion plot against the billionaire Leslie H. Wexner, the chairman of L Brands, the retail empire that includes Victoria’s Secret and Henri Bendel. It also has pitted Mr. Dershowitz against another of the nation’s most famous lawyers, David Boies, who represents his accuser. The two lawyers are in an increasingly virulent war. In October, Mr. Dershowitz testified in a deposition that Mr. Boies had privately assured Mr. Dershowitz that he did not believe the claims of his client, Virginia Roberts Giuffre. “He said that he would not have taken this case if they had known she was going to accuse me,” Mr. Dershowitz said recently. Mr. Boies responded that he never made such a statement. “The only explanation I have is that he is so emotional about this that he starts saying things without being careful,” Mr. Boies said in an interview. “He has been someone whose approach in litigation is to attack the other side.” In recent weeks, efforts to resolve the thicket of legal actions have begun, but Mr. Dershowitz insists that any settlement must clear him of sexual wrongdoing. The woman accusing Mr. Dershowitz has not filed a complaint with the authorities or a lawsuit against him. Instead, her allegation first emerged in a lawsuit that challenged Mr. Epstein’s plea agreement. Mr. Dershowitz long taught his students that everyone, even those charged with the most heinous crimes, deserves a defense. But he now says he hesitated when Mr. Epstein called him in 2006 to ask for help because he was being investigated in connection with sex crimes. “I said, ‘Look, you know Jeffrey, we’re acquaintances, maybe that’s not such a great idea,” Mr. Dershowitz said. “He said, ‘No, no, no, I really need you to do this.’” The case, Mr. Dershowitz realized, “was right in my wheelhouse.” In December 2005, a few months before he got that phone call, Mr. Dershowitz, his wife, children and grandchildren were vacationing at Mr. Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion. The friendship between the men started in the mid-1990s on Martha’s Vineyard. Not long after they met, Mr. Epstein invited Mr. Dershowitz to a birthday party for Mr. Wexner. Instead of accepting presents, the retail magnate had a tradition of asking friends to bring the most interesting person they had met over the last year. “He said, ‘I’d like to bring you,’” Mr. Dershowitz said. By any measure, Mr. Dershowitz had led an interesting life. At 28, after clerking for a Supreme Court justice, Mr. Dershowitz became the youngest professor ever hired by Harvard Law School. It was outside the classroom, however, where his fame grew. He handled celebrated cases, appeared as television commentator and wrote many books, fiction and nonfiction. His account of the von Bulow case, “Reversal of Fortune,” was made into a film in 1990 in which the actor Ron Silver donned a bushy mustache and aviator glasses to play Mr. Dershowitz. Along with enjoying celebrity, Mr. Dershowitz has also relished excoriating those he considers foes. He has taken on journalists, chided universities for coddling students and has been relentless in his defense of Israel, for example, accusing the writer Alice Walker of bigotry for refusing to allow an Israeli publisher to translate her novel “The Color Purple.” Soon after meeting Mr. Epstein, Mr. Dershowitz became drawn into his rarefied world. Mr. Epstein was an enigmatic figure living in an Upper East Side mansion once owned by Mr. Wexner, who had reportedly been his mentor. A college dropout who once worked for Bear Stearns, Mr. Epstein said he handled investments for billionaires, though other than Mr. Wexner, he declined to identify them. Along with prominent businessmen, Mr. Epstein’s friends included scientists, socialites and celebrities. He donated $30 million to finance scientific research at Harvard. President Bill Clinton and the actor Kevin Spacey flew aboard his private jet to Africa to discuss AIDS policy. Mr. Dershowitz also traveled on Mr. Epstein’s plane and was invited to join his chats with Ehud Barak, the former Israeli prime minister. The men grew so close that Mr. Dershowitz solicited Mr. Epstein’s feedback as he was writing books. In the interview in his Manhattan apartment, Mr. Dershowitz said Mr. Epstein was often surrounded by young women, but none struck him as underage. “I never got involved in his social life,” he said. However, in late 2005, around the time when Mr. Dershowitz and his family were vacationing at Mr. Epstein’s home, Palm Beach detectives were sifting through the trash outside. Acting on a tip, the authorities were investigating whether women working as assistants to Mr. Epstein were finding teenage girls to give him sexual massages. As the inquiry unfolded, detectives spoke with girls, some of whom were 15 or younger. After taking the case, Mr. Dershowitz responded, as was his way, with hardball tactics. He gathered information from the girls’ postings on social media accounts, which he claimed showed they were drug users or had lied to Mr. Epstein about their age. He also helped put together a defense team that included Roy Black, the prominent trial lawyer, and Kenneth W. Starr, who led the investigation into President Bill Clinton’s involvement with Monica Lewinsky. A local prosecutor, after meetings with Mr. Epstein’s defense team, recommended that he be charged only with a misdemeanor. The chief of the Palm Beach police department was so outraged by the proposal that he wrote a letter to the Justice Department asking it to get involved in the case. Over time, authorities found evidence suggesting that Mr. Epstein had paid dozens of girls for sexual services. However, Mr. Dershowitz and other lawyers struck a deal in which Mr. Epstein agreed to plead guilty in a Florida court to one count of soliciting prostitution and another of procuring a person under 18 for prostitution. At the same time, federal officials agreed not to bring charges against Mr. Epstein or any of his potential co-conspirators. A Florida judge sentenced Mr. Epstein to 18 months in jail, though he was allowed to spend days working on the outside. He was released in 2009 after serving 13 months — a shortened sentence for good behavior — and had to register as a sex offender. OPEN Timeline For a criminal lawyer, the residue of a case can remain long after it ends. Twenty years ago, Mr. Dershowitz received death threats after he helped secure Mr. Simpson’s acquittal on murder charges. And as a writer, he has imagined even worse plots. In one of his legal thrillers, “The Advocate’s Devil,” a lawyer discovers that a man for whom he had won an acquittal on rape charges is stalking his daughter. But Mr. Epstein’s case has come back to haunt him in ways he never expected. “I have been criticized for the cases I’ve taken,” he said, “but no one has ever criticized my personal life.” The events that pulled him back into Mr. Epstein’s orbit began unfolding in 2008. That year, two lawyers, Bradley J. Edwards and Paul G. Cassell, filed a lawsuit accusing the Justice Department of violating the rights of two women involved in Mr. Epstein’s case by not allowing them to challenge his plea deal. Then, in 2011, a British newspaper, The Mail on Sunday, published an article about Virginia Roberts Giuffre, another of Mr. Epstein’s accusers, who was then living in Australia. Ms. Giuffre, now a 32-year-old mother of three, told the newspaper that Mr. Epstein first started paying her for sexual services when she was 15. She also described traveling around the world on Mr. Epstein’s jet. “Basically, I was training to be a prostitute for him and his friends who shared his interest in young girls,” Ms. Giuffre told the newspaper. Soon afterward, the lawyers suing the Justice Department interviewed Ms. Giuffre and asked her if any of Mr. Epstein’s friends might have information about his exploitation of girls. When they mentioned Mr. Dershowitz, she replied, “Yes,” according to a transcript of the 2011 call. But last December, Mr. Dershowitz was drawn into the Justice Department lawsuit in an entirely different way. In a motion filed that month, Ms. Giuffre claimed that she and Mr. Dershowitz had sex when she was a minor aboard Mr. Epstein’s plane and at the money manager’s homes in New York, New Mexico and the Virgin Islands. She also asserted that Mr. Epstein had “sexually trafficked” her to other powerful friends, including Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. Buckingham Palace rejected the claims against the prince. The judge later struck Ms. Giuffre’s motion from the court filing, but by then, the accusations were being widely reported and broadcast. Mr. Dershowitz’s phone was ringing with calls from reporters seeking comment. At every opportunity, he called Ms. Giuffre’s claims “outrageous falsehoods” and called the lawyers who had made the filing, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Cassell, “villains” who helped fabricate the claims against him. Mr. Dershowitz said he would seek to have them disbarred, adding he had diary records and other information to show he was not at locations where Ms. Giuffre claimed they had met. “They’re prepared to lie, cheat and steal,” Mr. Dershowitz said in an interview on CNN in January. The two lawyers, who declined to be interviewed for this article, filed a defamation lawsuit against Mr. Dershowitz, who responded with his own counterclaim. Mr. Boies’s firm soon entered the fray. In late 2014, a lawyer at the firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, agreed to represent Ms. Giuffre in legal matters not directly related to the Justice Department lawsuit. When Mr. Dershowitz’s name surfaced in that lawsuit, another lawyer at the firm agreed to represent him before realizing that Ms. Giuffre was already a client. After the lawyer withdrew, Mr. Dershowitz expressed anger, saying that he had already told the firm his legal strategy before he was made aware of the conflict. Mr. Boies called the claim frivolous. “This idea of going to the press and asserting there is a conflict when you are not willing to make that claim in court is irresponsible,” said the lawyer, who is perhaps best known for representing the Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore against George W. Bush in his challenge to the 2000 election results. That incident, however, was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods. In October, during a deposition in the defamation case against him, Mr. Dershowitz testified that he had received a confidential phone call from a female friend of Ms. Giuffre, who provided him with troubling information. According to Mr. Dershowitz’s testimony, the woman said that Ms. Giuffre had told her that she had been pressured to level sexual charges at Mr. Dershowitz. She also described a plan to accuse Mr. Wexner of having sex with Ms. Giuffre when she was underage. “Virginia and her lawyers hoped to get $1 billion, B-I-L-L-I-O-N, $1 billion or half of his net worth,” Mr. Dershowitz testified he was told, calling the plan an “extortion” attempt. A lawyer for Mr. Wexner, John W. Zeiger, did not respond to telephone calls. But a person briefed on the matter but who was not authorized to speak publicly about it said that Mr. Wexner had never met Ms. Giuffre and no extortion attempt was made. Mr. Dershowitz says he wants nothing more than for Ms. Giuffre to publicly retract her claims. He insists that Mr. Boies privately told him that he believed Mr. Dershowitz was innocent and that Ms. Giuffre, while believing the allegations, was mistaken or confused. Mr. Boies says Mr. Dershowitz’s claims are ludicrous. “I never said to him that I concluded that my clients’ assertions were incorrect,” he said. “I didn’t say that. I didn’t say anything like that.” On Friday, Mr. Dershowitz filed an affidavit in a Florida state court, containing notes of his conversations with Mr. Boies that he says support his account. In it, he described Mr. Boies as telling him that if his client refused to withdraw her claim, “he could not ethically continue to represent her.” Hours later, Mr. Boies’s firm asked the Florida judge to seal Mr. Dershowitz’s affidavit, and in a related filing, Mr. Boies described some of Mr. Dershowitz’s assertions as “misleading” or “flatly untrue.” In this intensifying game of legal chicken, it is not clear who will flinch first. Ms. Giuffre seems unwilling to yield and used a recent court filing to fire back at Mr. Dershowitz. “He is lying by denying that he had sex with me,” said Ms. Giuffre, who declined to be interviewed for this article. Mr. Dershowitz says he is no longer friendly with Mr. Epstein, who lives once again in his lavish Upper East side mansion. Still, like it or not, the lawyer remains tethered to him. Having defended Mr. Epstein, he said that he could not express his feelings about him. Several well-known criminal defense lawyers said that personal attacks were an occupational hazard. “Alan has never shied away from a fight in his life,” said Abbe D. Lowell, a lawyer in Washington whose clients have included the lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who was convicted of corruption in 2006. “He has been that kind of lightning rod.” For a man who has never lacked for self-confidence, Mr. Dershowitz now finds himself saddled with regret. Two clients, he said, have backed away from him because of his accuser’s claims, and he worries whether universities like Johns Hopkins will invite him to give speeches or present him with awards. He now says he thinks that he should have said no when Mr. Epstein called. “I think I do regret having taken the case in light of everything that has happened since,” he said. “If I could give back the money I made in this case and have this episode of my life erased, I’d do it.” © 2018 The New York Times Company Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss > On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 7:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 Dershowitz and Boies spar in 'an increasingly virulent war' over rape accusation BY DEBRA CASSENS WEISS POSTED DECEMBER 15, 2015, 7:46 AM CST • • • inShare • • Updated: Former Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz says he initially hesitated a decade ago when a friend sought his help fighting allegations that he paid underage girls to give him sexual massages. Dershowitz took the case anyway and arranged a plea deal for his client, wealthy money manager Jeffrey Epstein. Now Dershowitz is defending his own reputation after a lawsuit challenging the plea deal brought an accusation that he had sex with a woman when she was a minor, the New York Times reports. The accuser, represented by lawyer David Boies, never filed a complaint with police or a suit against Dershowitz. She testified in a suit claiming the Justice Department violated the rights of two women in Epstein’s case by not allowing them to challenge the plea deal. The accusation led to “an increasingly virulent war” between Boies and Dershowitz, according to the New York Times. The woman’s claims, Dershowitz has said, are “outrageous falsehoods,” and two other lawyers who made the sex claim in a court filing are “villains.” Those two lawyers, Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassell, alleged defamation in a suit against Dershowitz, who filed a counterclaim. “Over a five-decade career,” the Times story says, “Dershowitz has represented some of America’s most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson—that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost.” Boies’ firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, is representing the accuser pro bono in the defamation case as part of a program to assist victims of abuse, according to prior coverage by Reuters. The firm also discussed representing Dershowitz before the conflict was discovered, according to Dershowitz. He claims he wasn’t made aware of the conflict until after he revealed his legal strategy to the firm. (Even if there was no attorney-client relationship formed, the firm could be disqualified if Dershowitz made confidential statements to the firm in contemplation of possible litigation, according to this post by the Faculty Lounge.) Boies responded that Dershowitz was “irresponsible” for making a conflict claim in the press without being willing to assert it in court. According to the New York Times story, the incident “was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods.” Dershowitz claimed in a deposition in the defamation case that he received a phone call from a friend of the accuser, who said she was pressured to make the claim against Dershowitz and another friend of Epstein’s in hopes of recovering $1 billion. Dershowitz also claims Boies privately told him he believed Dershowitz is innocent and his accuser is mistaken or confused. Dershowitz filed a court affidavit(PDF) claiming Boies told him he could not ethically continue to represent the woman if she did not withdraw her claim. The affidavit includes Dershowitz’s contemporaneous notes of his conversations with Boies supporting his claims about Boies’ statements. It also says that a mutual friend attended the meetings in which Boies made his comments. “Over the course of several conversations in person, over the phone, and on Skype,” Dershowitz’s affidavit says, “Mr. Boies repeatedly stated that he did not believe the allegations that [his client] had made against me were factually true.” Boies denies making such a comment. “I never said to him that I concluded that my clients’ assertions were incorrect,” Boies told the Times. “I didn’t say that. I didn’t say anything like that.” Dershowitz responded to Boies’ denial in a statement to the ABA Journal. “I doubt that my friend David Boies will be willing to state under oath that he did not make the statements that I quote in my affidavit,” Dershowitz said. “It’s one thing to deny making them to the media. It’s quite another thing to deny them under pains and penalties of perjury.” Typo and missing period corrected at 9 a.m. Additional information about Dershowitz’s affidavit and statement from Dershowitz added on Dec. 17. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 6:54 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. I really like this picture of Orgy Epstein, Dirty Dershowitz and Harvard. Just shows you that the sub silentio Motto of Harvard is: Cupiditas! As for #MeToo Dirty Dersh his Motto while travelling on Epstein’s Lolita Express to and from Epstein’s Orgy Island in order to cavort with underage girls, prostitutes and their Male Sexual Predators and Abusers with one of the girls alleging that #MeToo Dirty Dersh had abused her (last time I read being represented by David Boies and his law firm) is: Semper Ubi Sub Ubi! Be sure to wear your Tighty Whities for his events on April 26—on your head! Fab. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Apr 10 15:56:38 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:56:38 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually, no you can’t not when you are appealing to others to unite in common cause, not when you’re trying to build a movement. You have to be focused. You don’t need distractions from that which is essential. Not everyone can chew gum and walk at the same time. On Apr 10, 2018, at 07:54, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: With all due respect to you, I think we can chew gum and walk at the same time. Fab Alan Dershowitz Retires From Harvard Law School By Francis Boyle 21 December, 2013 Countercurrents.org Alan Dershowitz, a prominent advocate for Israel, is retiring from Harvard Law School. Dershowitz Accused of War Crimes - On one issue-the Jewish settlements in the occupied lands-Israel has {already} been found, by an international court, to be in violation of international law. This has caused a firestorm of reaction from Israel, and its apologists, like Harvard's Alan Dershowitz. But, Francis Boyle and a number of other American human rights advocates have taken on Dershowitz on, and are ready to do it again. The settlements are "clearly illegal and criminal," said Boyle. "All the settlements, as the World Court ruled in the advisory opinion on the [Separation] Wall, all these settlements violate the Fourth Geneva Convention, and a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention is a war crime. All these so-called settlers are committing war crimes, except the children, who are obviously not old enough to formulate a criminal intent. "Indeed, Alan Dershowitz began attacking the World Court for this ruling and attacking their credibility, and this, that, and the other. "Well, Dershowitz is not a trained international lawyer; he's not a trained human rights lawyer. I debated him once, and he sort of gratuitously conceded that I was the expert on these subjects. "But in any event, what Dershowitz was not aware of, was that in the advisory committee proceedings, the American judge, Thomas Buergenthal, {who is a Holocaust survivor, himself}, joined the ruling-he dissented against a lot of other things by the World Court [International Court of Justice]-but Judge Buergenthal ruled that the settlements violate the Fourth Geneva Convention. And to Judge Buergenthal's credit-I've known him for many years; I have a lot of respect and admiration for him-he made this ruling. "So, in other words, Dershowitz was attacking the integrity of a Holocaust survivor. But of course, that doesn't surprise me: He attacked [Prof.] Norman Finkelstein's mother; he also attacked Prof. Israel Shahak, one of the leaders of the peace movement in Israel, himself a Holocaust survivor, unfortunately, no longer with us, but a great man. "I've dealt with [Shahak], I have great respect, and indeed, he was going to have a lecture tour here in the United States, in, I guess, the Fall of 1990, and he was coming to speak in Champaign, [Ill.], and the organizers of his lecture tour asked me if I would put him up in my home as my guest, in order to conserve on expenses, and I agreed. And I was greatly looking forward again to meeting Professor Shahak.... But as you know, with the Gulf crisis, Professor Shahak decided to cancel his lecture tour and stay home with his own people, which was certainly understandable. "Dershowitz couldn't care less. Whatever kind of outright character assassination he has to apply to anyone, even Holocaust survivors like Judge Buergenthal, Professor Shahak, Norman Finkelstein's mother, it doesn't bother Dershowitz. Indeed, my understanding is, he's trying to run to become President of Israel, to take Peres's place. Well, fine, it would be great to get him out of Harvard Law School-my dis-alma mater!-and ship him over to Israel with all the other war criminals over there. "In fact, I say that, because Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. "You can find that article on counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan. Well, the Palestinians are all protected persons under the Fourth Geneva Convention, and for Dershowitz to authorize their murder is a war crime. So, Dershowitz is a {prima facie} war criminal, who should be prosecuted himself. "And there he is, teaching at the Harvard Law School, and advocating torture, crimes against humanity, war crimes against the Palestinians. As you know, he said, `Well, we should just be obliterating their villages. You know, if they do this, there's a terror bombing here, we [should] destroy one of their villages.' "And, of course, Dershowitz also advocates torture here, in America. The guy's shameless. "I remember, [when] I started [at Harvard], Dershowitz started as an assistant professor, and his first big case was defending a pornographic film star in `Deep Throat.' Dershowitz likes to present himself as some great defender of the First Amendment.... Well, as Catherine McKinnon has, I think, taught us all, pornography is a form of violence against women: It's a human rights matter. So, it doesn't surprise me that Dershowitz started his career defending pornographers and pornography, and was and still is greatly proud of it-and now he moves on to defending war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide, and in addition, over the years, became a war criminal himself. "But the sum of it is, he's still teaching there at Harvard Law School. So, I hope he goes back to Israel and becomes President, sure! Be great to see him go: Bon voyage." Professor Francis A. Boyle is an international law expert and served as Legal Advisor to the Palestine Liberation Organization and Yasser Arafat on the 1988 Palestinian Declaration of Independence, as well as to the Palestinian Delegation to the Middle East Peace Negotiations from 1991 to 1993, where he drafted the Palestinian counter-offer to the now defunct Oslo Agreement. His books include “ Palestine, Palestinians and International Law” (2003), and “ The Palestinian Right of Return under International Law” (2010). ________________________________ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 6:16 PM To: Killeacle Subject: Dershowitz Retires from Harvard Law School News Alan Dershowitz Retires From Harvard Law SchoolCounterCurrents.org Professor Francis A. Boyle is an international law expert and served as Legal Advisor to the Palestine Liberation Organization and Yasser Arafat on ... See all stories on this topic » Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:36 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" The article below goes back to 2015 and a decade ago. Yes, he is a dirtbag, these people whose goal is greed and power, usually are, anyone who thinks otherwise must be nine or ten. Our focus now, should be on Dershowitz warmongering, given he was on FOX news, just this past Sunday night, urging a military strike on Syria. Military strikes are responsible for many rapes and deaths of women and children, generally in the thousands, not to mention the total destruction of infrastructure leading to famine and disease. There is also, the potential for war with Russia, as a result. Our Pentagon is gearing up for further action in Syria because they have no intention of leaving, ever. Perpetual war is the goal. This is our focus in protesting this person with his support for destruction of the Palestinian people. On Apr 10, 2018, at 07:19, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her ConsortCIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. To put Dirty Dersh into perspective: Epstein’s Lolita-Express-Orgy-Island constituted Sexual Trafficking in Underage Girls and Women that verged upon Sexual Slavery, which is a Crime Against Humanity. Fb. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 11:14 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. Alan Dershowitz on the Defense (His Own) By BARRY MEIERDEC. 12, 2015 nytimes.com | Dec. 12, 2015 Last month, demonstrators at Johns Hopkins University interrupted Alan M. Dershowitz as he was giving a fiery speech defending Israel. The disruption normally would not have fazed Mr. Dershowitz, a former Harvard Law School professor who thrives on controversy and relishes taking on opponents in and out of the courtroom. The protesters, however, were not challenging his Middle East politics. Instead, they held up a sign reading, “You Are Rape Culture.” Mr. Dershowitz knew what it meant. A decade ago, he had defended a friend, a money manager named Jeffrey E. Epstein, after authorities in Palm Beach, Fla., found evidence indicating that he was paying underage girls to give him sexual massages. The lawyer led a scorched-earth attack on the girls and, with a team of high-priced lawyers, cut a plea deal for Mr. Epstein that the local police said was too lenient. Over a five-decade career, Mr. Dershowitz has represented some of America’s most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson — that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost. Last December, as part of a filing in an ongoing lawsuit, a woman charged that Mr. Dershowitz had sex with her when she was underage. Mr. Dershowitz called the claim an “outrageous lie” and over the last year has faced fallout from the accusation. “This is very serious,” Mr. Dershowitz said last month at his apartment in Manhattan. “It involves my life, my legacy, my career, my history, my reputation.” As he has defended that legacy, there has been a lawsuit, a counterclaim and even an accusation of an extortion plot against the billionaire Leslie H. Wexner, the chairman of L Brands, the retail empire that includes Victoria’s Secret and Henri Bendel. It also has pitted Mr. Dershowitz against another of the nation’s most famous lawyers, David Boies, who represents his accuser. The two lawyers are in an increasingly virulent war. In October, Mr. Dershowitz testified in a deposition that Mr. Boies had privately assured Mr. Dershowitz that he did not believe the claims of his client, Virginia Roberts Giuffre. “He said that he would not have taken this case if they had known she was going to accuse me,” Mr. Dershowitz said recently. Mr. Boies responded that he never made such a statement. “The only explanation I have is that he is so emotional about this that he starts saying things without being careful,” Mr. Boies said in an interview. “He has been someone whose approach in litigation is to attack the other side.” In recent weeks, efforts to resolve the thicket of legal actions have begun, but Mr. Dershowitz insists that any settlement must clear him of sexual wrongdoing. The woman accusing Mr. Dershowitz has not filed a complaint with the authorities or a lawsuit against him. Instead, her allegation first emerged in a lawsuit that challenged Mr. Epstein’s plea agreement. Mr. Dershowitz long taught his students that everyone, even those charged with the most heinous crimes, deserves a defense. But he now says he hesitated when Mr. Epstein called him in 2006 to ask for help because he was being investigated in connection with sex crimes. “I said, ‘Look, you know Jeffrey, we’re acquaintances, maybe that’s not such a great idea,” Mr. Dershowitz said. “He said, ‘No, no, no, I really need you to do this.’” The case, Mr. Dershowitz realized, “was right in my wheelhouse.” In December 2005, a few months before he got that phone call, Mr. Dershowitz, his wife, children and grandchildren were vacationing at Mr. Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion. The friendship between the men started in the mid-1990s on Martha’s Vineyard. Not long after they met, Mr. Epstein invited Mr. Dershowitz to a birthday party for Mr. Wexner. Instead of accepting presents, the retail magnate had a tradition of asking friends to bring the most interesting person they had met over the last year. “He said, ‘I’d like to bring you,’” Mr. Dershowitz said. By any measure, Mr. Dershowitz had led an interesting life. At 28, after clerking for a Supreme Court justice, Mr. Dershowitz became the youngest professor ever hired by Harvard Law School. It was outside the classroom, however, where his fame grew. He handled celebrated cases, appeared as television commentator and wrote many books, fiction and nonfiction. His account of the von Bulow case, “Reversal of Fortune,” was made into a film in 1990 in which the actor Ron Silver donned a bushy mustache and aviator glasses to play Mr. Dershowitz. Along with enjoying celebrity, Mr. Dershowitz has also relished excoriating those he considers foes. He has taken on journalists, chided universities for coddling students and has been relentless in his defense of Israel, for example, accusing the writer Alice Walker of bigotry for refusing to allow an Israeli publisher to translate her novel “The Color Purple.” Soon after meeting Mr. Epstein, Mr. Dershowitz became drawn into his rarefied world. Mr. Epstein was an enigmatic figure living in an Upper East Side mansion once owned by Mr. Wexner, who had reportedly been his mentor. A college dropout who once worked for Bear Stearns, Mr. Epstein said he handled investments for billionaires, though other than Mr. Wexner, he declined to identify them. Along with prominent businessmen, Mr. Epstein’s friends included scientists, socialites and celebrities. He donated $30 million to finance scientific research at Harvard. President Bill Clinton and the actor Kevin Spacey flew aboard his private jet to Africa to discuss AIDS policy. Mr. Dershowitz also traveled on Mr. Epstein’s plane and was invited to join his chats with Ehud Barak, the former Israeli prime minister. The men grew so close that Mr. Dershowitz solicited Mr. Epstein’s feedback as he was writing books. In the interview in his Manhattan apartment, Mr. Dershowitz said Mr. Epstein was often surrounded by young women, but none struck him as underage. “I never got involved in his social life,” he said. However, in late 2005, around the time when Mr. Dershowitz and his family were vacationing at Mr. Epstein’s home, Palm Beach detectives were sifting through the trash outside. Acting on a tip, the authorities were investigating whether women working as assistants to Mr. Epstein were finding teenage girls to give him sexual massages. As the inquiry unfolded, detectives spoke with girls, some of whom were 15 or younger. After taking the case, Mr. Dershowitz responded, as was his way, with hardball tactics. He gathered information from the girls’ postings on social media accounts, which he claimed showed they were drug users or had lied to Mr. Epstein about their age. He also helped put together a defense team that included Roy Black, the prominent trial lawyer, and Kenneth W. Starr, who led the investigation into President Bill Clinton’s involvement with Monica Lewinsky. A local prosecutor, after meetings with Mr. Epstein’s defense team, recommended that he be charged only with a misdemeanor. The chief of the Palm Beach police department was so outraged by the proposal that he wrote a letter to the Justice Department asking it to get involved in the case. Over time, authorities found evidence suggesting that Mr. Epstein had paid dozens of girls for sexual services. However, Mr. Dershowitz and other lawyers struck a deal in which Mr. Epstein agreed to plead guilty in a Florida court to one count of soliciting prostitution and another of procuring a person under 18 for prostitution. At the same time, federal officials agreed not to bring charges against Mr. Epstein or any of his potential co-conspirators. A Florida judge sentenced Mr. Epstein to 18 months in jail, though he was allowed to spend days working on the outside. He was released in 2009 after serving 13 months — a shortened sentence for good behavior — and had to register as a sex offender. OPEN Timeline For a criminal lawyer, the residue of a case can remain long after it ends. Twenty years ago, Mr. Dershowitz received death threats after he helped secure Mr. Simpson’s acquittal on murder charges. And as a writer, he has imagined even worse plots. In one of his legal thrillers, “The Advocate’s Devil,” a lawyer discovers that a man for whom he had won an acquittal on rape charges is stalking his daughter. But Mr. Epstein’s case has come back to haunt him in ways he never expected. “I have been criticized for the cases I’ve taken,” he said, “but no one has ever criticized my personal life.” The events that pulled him back into Mr. Epstein’s orbit began unfolding in 2008. That year, two lawyers, Bradley J. Edwards and Paul G. Cassell, filed a lawsuit accusing the Justice Department of violating the rights of two women involved in Mr. Epstein’s case by not allowing them to challenge his plea deal. Then, in 2011, a British newspaper, The Mail on Sunday, published an article about Virginia Roberts Giuffre, another of Mr. Epstein’s accusers, who was then living in Australia. Ms. Giuffre, now a 32-year-old mother of three, told the newspaper that Mr. Epstein first started paying her for sexual services when she was 15. She also described traveling around the world on Mr. Epstein’s jet. “Basically, I was training to be a prostitute for him and his friends who shared his interest in young girls,” Ms. Giuffre told the newspaper. Soon afterward, the lawyers suing the Justice Department interviewed Ms. Giuffre and asked her if any of Mr. Epstein’s friends might have information about his exploitation of girls. When they mentioned Mr. Dershowitz, she replied, “Yes,” according to a transcript of the 2011 call. But last December, Mr. Dershowitz was drawn into the Justice Department lawsuit in an entirely different way. In a motion filed that month, Ms. Giuffre claimed that she and Mr. Dershowitz had sex when she was a minor aboard Mr. Epstein’s plane and at the money manager’s homes in New York, New Mexico and the Virgin Islands. She also asserted that Mr. Epstein had “sexually trafficked” her to other powerful friends, including Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. Buckingham Palace rejected the claims against the prince. The judge later struck Ms. Giuffre’s motion from the court filing, but by then, the accusations were being widely reported and broadcast. Mr. Dershowitz’s phone was ringing with calls from reporters seeking comment. At every opportunity, he called Ms. Giuffre’s claims “outrageous falsehoods” and called the lawyers who had made the filing, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Cassell, “villains” who helped fabricate the claims against him. Mr. Dershowitz said he would seek to have them disbarred, adding he had diary records and other information to show he was not at locations where Ms. Giuffre claimed they had met. “They’re prepared to lie, cheat and steal,” Mr. Dershowitz said in an interview on CNN in January. The two lawyers, who declined to be interviewed for this article, filed a defamation lawsuit against Mr. Dershowitz, who responded with his own counterclaim. Mr. Boies’s firm soon entered the fray. In late 2014, a lawyer at the firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, agreed to represent Ms. Giuffre in legal matters not directly related to the Justice Department lawsuit. When Mr. Dershowitz’s name surfaced in that lawsuit, another lawyer at the firm agreed to represent him before realizing that Ms. Giuffre was already a client. After the lawyer withdrew, Mr. Dershowitz expressed anger, saying that he had already told the firm his legal strategy before he was made aware of the conflict. Mr. Boies called the claim frivolous. “This idea of going to the press and asserting there is a conflict when you are not willing to make that claim in court is irresponsible,” said the lawyer, who is perhaps best known for representing the Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore against George W. Bush in his challenge to the 2000 election results. That incident, however, was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods. In October, during a deposition in the defamation case against him, Mr. Dershowitz testified that he had received a confidential phone call from a female friend of Ms. Giuffre, who provided him with troubling information. According to Mr. Dershowitz’s testimony, the woman said that Ms. Giuffre had told her that she had been pressured to level sexual charges at Mr. Dershowitz. She also described a plan to accuse Mr. Wexner of having sex with Ms. Giuffre when she was underage. “Virginia and her lawyers hoped to get $1 billion, B-I-L-L-I-O-N, $1 billion or half of his net worth,” Mr. Dershowitz testified he was told, calling the plan an “extortion” attempt. A lawyer for Mr. Wexner, John W. Zeiger, did not respond to telephone calls. But a person briefed on the matter but who was not authorized to speak publicly about it said that Mr. Wexner had never met Ms. Giuffre and no extortion attempt was made. Mr. Dershowitz says he wants nothing more than for Ms. Giuffre to publicly retract her claims. He insists that Mr. Boies privately told him that he believed Mr. Dershowitz was innocent and that Ms. Giuffre, while believing the allegations, was mistaken or confused. Mr. Boies says Mr. Dershowitz’s claims are ludicrous. “I never said to him that I concluded that my clients’ assertions were incorrect,” he said. “I didn’t say that. I didn’t say anything like that.” On Friday, Mr. Dershowitz filed an affidavit in a Florida state court, containing notes of his conversations with Mr. Boies that he says support his account. In it, he described Mr. Boies as telling him that if his client refused to withdraw her claim, “he could not ethically continue to represent her.” Hours later, Mr. Boies’s firm asked the Florida judge to seal Mr. Dershowitz’s affidavit, and in a related filing, Mr. Boies described some of Mr. Dershowitz’s assertions as “misleading” or “flatly untrue.” In this intensifying game of legal chicken, it is not clear who will flinch first. Ms. Giuffre seems unwilling to yield and used a recent court filing to fire back at Mr. Dershowitz. “He is lying by denying that he had sex with me,” said Ms. Giuffre, who declined to be interviewed for this article. Mr. Dershowitz says he is no longer friendly with Mr. Epstein, who lives once again in his lavish Upper East side mansion. Still, like it or not, the lawyer remains tethered to him. Having defended Mr. Epstein, he said that he could not express his feelings about him. Several well-known criminal defense lawyers said that personal attacks were an occupational hazard. “Alan has never shied away from a fight in his life,” said Abbe D. Lowell, a lawyer in Washington whose clients have included the lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who was convicted of corruption in 2006. “He has been that kind of lightning rod.” For a man who has never lacked for self-confidence, Mr. Dershowitz now finds himself saddled with regret. Two clients, he said, have backed away from him because of his accuser’s claims, and he worries whether universities like Johns Hopkins will invite him to give speeches or present him with awards. He now says he thinks that he should have said no when Mr. Epstein called. “I think I do regret having taken the case in light of everything that has happened since,” he said. “If I could give back the money I made in this case and have this episode of my life erased, I’d do it.” © 2018 The New York Times Company Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss > On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 7:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 Dershowitz and Boies spar in 'an increasingly virulent war' over rape accusation BY DEBRA CASSENS WEISS POSTED DECEMBER 15, 2015, 7:46 AM CST • • • inShare • • Updated: Former Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz says he initially hesitated a decade ago when a friend sought his help fighting allegations that he paid underage girls to give him sexual massages. Dershowitz took the case anyway and arranged a plea deal for his client, wealthy money manager Jeffrey Epstein. Now Dershowitz is defending his own reputation after a lawsuit challenging the plea deal brought an accusation that he had sex with a woman when she was a minor, the New York Times reports. The accuser, represented by lawyer David Boies, never filed a complaint with police or a suit against Dershowitz. She testified in a suit claiming the Justice Department violated the rights of two women in Epstein’s case by not allowing them to challenge the plea deal. The accusation led to “an increasingly virulent war” between Boies and Dershowitz, according to the New York Times. The woman’s claims, Dershowitz has said, are “outrageous falsehoods,” and two other lawyers who made the sex claim in a court filing are “villains.” Those two lawyers, Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassell, alleged defamation in a suit against Dershowitz, who filed a counterclaim. “Over a five-decade career,” the Times story says, “Dershowitz has represented some of America’s most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson—that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost.” Boies’ firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, is representing the accuser pro bono in the defamation case as part of a program to assist victims of abuse, according to prior coverage by Reuters. The firm also discussed representing Dershowitz before the conflict was discovered, according to Dershowitz. He claims he wasn’t made aware of the conflict until after he revealed his legal strategy to the firm. (Even if there was no attorney-client relationship formed, the firm could be disqualified if Dershowitz made confidential statements to the firm in contemplation of possible litigation, according to this post by the Faculty Lounge.) Boies responded that Dershowitz was “irresponsible” for making a conflict claim in the press without being willing to assert it in court. According to the New York Times story, the incident “was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods.” Dershowitz claimed in a deposition in the defamation case that he received a phone call from a friend of the accuser, who said she was pressured to make the claim against Dershowitz and another friend of Epstein’s in hopes of recovering $1 billion. Dershowitz also claims Boies privately told him he believed Dershowitz is innocent and his accuser is mistaken or confused. Dershowitz filed a court affidavit(PDF) claiming Boies told him he could not ethically continue to represent the woman if she did not withdraw her claim. The affidavit includes Dershowitz’s contemporaneous notes of his conversations with Boies supporting his claims about Boies’ statements. It also says that a mutual friend attended the meetings in which Boies made his comments. “Over the course of several conversations in person, over the phone, and on Skype,” Dershowitz’s affidavit says, “Mr. Boies repeatedly stated that he did not believe the allegations that [his client] had made against me were factually true.” Boies denies making such a comment. “I never said to him that I concluded that my clients’ assertions were incorrect,” Boies told the Times. “I didn’t say that. I didn’t say anything like that.” Dershowitz responded to Boies’ denial in a statement to the ABA Journal. “I doubt that my friend David Boies will be willing to state under oath that he did not make the statements that I quote in my affidavit,” Dershowitz said. “It’s one thing to deny making them to the media. It’s quite another thing to deny them under pains and penalties of perjury.” Typo and missing period corrected at 9 a.m. Additional information about Dershowitz’s affidavit and statement from Dershowitz added on Dec. 17. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 6:54 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. I really like this picture of Orgy Epstein, Dirty Dershowitz and Harvard. Just shows you that the sub silentio Motto of Harvard is: Cupiditas! As for #MeToo Dirty Dersh his Motto while travelling on Epstein’s Lolita Express to and from Epstein’s Orgy Island in order to cavort with underage girls, prostitutes and their Male Sexual Predators and Abusers with one of the girls alleging that #MeToo Dirty Dersh had abused her (last time I read being represented by David Boies and his law firm) is: Semper Ubi Sub Ubi! Be sure to wear your Tighty Whities for his events on April 26—on your head! Fab. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Apr 10 15:58:39 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:58:39 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: With all due respect to you: Everyone has to do what their Conscience tells them to do. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:57 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" Actually, no you can’t not when you are appealing to others to unite in common cause, not when you’re trying to build a movement. You have to be focused. You don’t need distractions from that which is essential. Not everyone can chew gum and walk at the same time. On Apr 10, 2018, at 07:54, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: With all due respect to you, I think we can chew gum and walk at the same time. Fab Alan Dershowitz Retires From Harvard Law School By Francis Boyle 21 December, 2013 Countercurrents.org Alan Dershowitz, a prominent advocate for Israel, is retiring from Harvard Law School. Dershowitz Accused of War Crimes - On one issue-the Jewish settlements in the occupied lands-Israel has {already} been found, by an international court, to be in violation of international law. This has caused a firestorm of reaction from Israel, and its apologists, like Harvard's Alan Dershowitz. But, Francis Boyle and a number of other American human rights advocates have taken on Dershowitz on, and are ready to do it again. The settlements are "clearly illegal and criminal," said Boyle. "All the settlements, as the World Court ruled in the advisory opinion on the [Separation] Wall, all these settlements violate the Fourth Geneva Convention, and a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention is a war crime. All these so-called settlers are committing war crimes, except the children, who are obviously not old enough to formulate a criminal intent. "Indeed, Alan Dershowitz began attacking the World Court for this ruling and attacking their credibility, and this, that, and the other. "Well, Dershowitz is not a trained international lawyer; he's not a trained human rights lawyer. I debated him once, and he sort of gratuitously conceded that I was the expert on these subjects. "But in any event, what Dershowitz was not aware of, was that in the advisory committee proceedings, the American judge, Thomas Buergenthal, {who is a Holocaust survivor, himself}, joined the ruling-he dissented against a lot of other things by the World Court [International Court of Justice]-but Judge Buergenthal ruled that the settlements violate the Fourth Geneva Convention. And to Judge Buergenthal's credit-I've known him for many years; I have a lot of respect and admiration for him-he made this ruling. "So, in other words, Dershowitz was attacking the integrity of a Holocaust survivor. But of course, that doesn't surprise me: He attacked [Prof.] Norman Finkelstein's mother; he also attacked Prof. Israel Shahak, one of the leaders of the peace movement in Israel, himself a Holocaust survivor, unfortunately, no longer with us, but a great man. "I've dealt with [Shahak], I have great respect, and indeed, he was going to have a lecture tour here in the United States, in, I guess, the Fall of 1990, and he was coming to speak in Champaign, [Ill.], and the organizers of his lecture tour asked me if I would put him up in my home as my guest, in order to conserve on expenses, and I agreed. And I was greatly looking forward again to meeting Professor Shahak.... But as you know, with the Gulf crisis, Professor Shahak decided to cancel his lecture tour and stay home with his own people, which was certainly understandable. "Dershowitz couldn't care less. Whatever kind of outright character assassination he has to apply to anyone, even Holocaust survivors like Judge Buergenthal, Professor Shahak, Norman Finkelstein's mother, it doesn't bother Dershowitz. Indeed, my understanding is, he's trying to run to become President of Israel, to take Peres's place. Well, fine, it would be great to get him out of Harvard Law School-my dis-alma mater!-and ship him over to Israel with all the other war criminals over there. "In fact, I say that, because Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. "You can find that article on counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan. Well, the Palestinians are all protected persons under the Fourth Geneva Convention, and for Dershowitz to authorize their murder is a war crime. So, Dershowitz is a {prima facie} war criminal, who should be prosecuted himself. "And there he is, teaching at the Harvard Law School, and advocating torture, crimes against humanity, war crimes against the Palestinians. As you know, he said, `Well, we should just be obliterating their villages. You know, if they do this, there's a terror bombing here, we [should] destroy one of their villages.' "And, of course, Dershowitz also advocates torture here, in America. The guy's shameless. "I remember, [when] I started [at Harvard], Dershowitz started as an assistant professor, and his first big case was defending a pornographic film star in `Deep Throat.' Dershowitz likes to present himself as some great defender of the First Amendment.... Well, as Catherine McKinnon has, I think, taught us all, pornography is a form of violence against women: It's a human rights matter. So, it doesn't surprise me that Dershowitz started his career defending pornographers and pornography, and was and still is greatly proud of it-and now he moves on to defending war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide, and in addition, over the years, became a war criminal himself. "But the sum of it is, he's still teaching there at Harvard Law School. So, I hope he goes back to Israel and becomes President, sure! Be great to see him go: Bon voyage." Professor Francis A. Boyle is an international law expert and served as Legal Advisor to the Palestine Liberation Organization and Yasser Arafat on the 1988 Palestinian Declaration of Independence, as well as to the Palestinian Delegation to the Middle East Peace Negotiations from 1991 to 1993, where he drafted the Palestinian counter-offer to the now defunct Oslo Agreement. His books include “ Palestine, Palestinians and International Law” (2003), and “ The Palestinian Right of Return under International Law” (2010). ________________________________ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:fboyle at illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 6:16 PM To: Killeacle Subject: Dershowitz Retires from Harvard Law School News Alan Dershowitz Retires From Harvard Law SchoolCounterCurrents.org Professor Francis A. Boyle is an international law expert and served as Legal Advisor to the Palestine Liberation Organization and Yasser Arafat on ... See all stories on this topic » Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:36 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" The article below goes back to 2015 and a decade ago. Yes, he is a dirtbag, these people whose goal is greed and power, usually are, anyone who thinks otherwise must be nine or ten. Our focus now, should be on Dershowitz warmongering, given he was on FOX news, just this past Sunday night, urging a military strike on Syria. Military strikes are responsible for many rapes and deaths of women and children, generally in the thousands, not to mention the total destruction of infrastructure leading to famine and disease. There is also, the potential for war with Russia, as a result. Our Pentagon is gearing up for further action in Syria because they have no intention of leaving, ever. Perpetual war is the goal. This is our focus in protesting this person with his support for destruction of the Palestinian people. On Apr 10, 2018, at 07:19, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her ConsortCIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. To put Dirty Dersh into perspective: Epstein’s Lolita-Express-Orgy-Island constituted Sexual Trafficking in Underage Girls and Women that verged upon Sexual Slavery, which is a Crime Against Humanity. Fb. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 11:14 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26: "You Are Rape Culture" https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. Alan Dershowitz on the Defense (His Own) By BARRY MEIERDEC. 12, 2015 nytimes.com | Dec. 12, 2015 Last month, demonstrators at Johns Hopkins University interrupted Alan M. Dershowitz as he was giving a fiery speech defending Israel. The disruption normally would not have fazed Mr. Dershowitz, a former Harvard Law School professor who thrives on controversy and relishes taking on opponents in and out of the courtroom. The protesters, however, were not challenging his Middle East politics. Instead, they held up a sign reading, “You Are Rape Culture.” Mr. Dershowitz knew what it meant. A decade ago, he had defended a friend, a money manager named Jeffrey E. Epstein, after authorities in Palm Beach, Fla., found evidence indicating that he was paying underage girls to give him sexual massages. The lawyer led a scorched-earth attack on the girls and, with a team of high-priced lawyers, cut a plea deal for Mr. Epstein that the local police said was too lenient. Over a five-decade career, Mr. Dershowitz has represented some of America’s most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson — that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost. Last December, as part of a filing in an ongoing lawsuit, a woman charged that Mr. Dershowitz had sex with her when she was underage. Mr. Dershowitz called the claim an “outrageous lie” and over the last year has faced fallout from the accusation. “This is very serious,” Mr. Dershowitz said last month at his apartment in Manhattan. “It involves my life, my legacy, my career, my history, my reputation.” As he has defended that legacy, there has been a lawsuit, a counterclaim and even an accusation of an extortion plot against the billionaire Leslie H. Wexner, the chairman of L Brands, the retail empire that includes Victoria’s Secret and Henri Bendel. It also has pitted Mr. Dershowitz against another of the nation’s most famous lawyers, David Boies, who represents his accuser. The two lawyers are in an increasingly virulent war. In October, Mr. Dershowitz testified in a deposition that Mr. Boies had privately assured Mr. Dershowitz that he did not believe the claims of his client, Virginia Roberts Giuffre. “He said that he would not have taken this case if they had known she was going to accuse me,” Mr. Dershowitz said recently. Mr. Boies responded that he never made such a statement. “The only explanation I have is that he is so emotional about this that he starts saying things without being careful,” Mr. Boies said in an interview. “He has been someone whose approach in litigation is to attack the other side.” In recent weeks, efforts to resolve the thicket of legal actions have begun, but Mr. Dershowitz insists that any settlement must clear him of sexual wrongdoing. The woman accusing Mr. Dershowitz has not filed a complaint with the authorities or a lawsuit against him. Instead, her allegation first emerged in a lawsuit that challenged Mr. Epstein’s plea agreement. Mr. Dershowitz long taught his students that everyone, even those charged with the most heinous crimes, deserves a defense. But he now says he hesitated when Mr. Epstein called him in 2006 to ask for help because he was being investigated in connection with sex crimes. “I said, ‘Look, you know Jeffrey, we’re acquaintances, maybe that’s not such a great idea,” Mr. Dershowitz said. “He said, ‘No, no, no, I really need you to do this.’” The case, Mr. Dershowitz realized, “was right in my wheelhouse.” In December 2005, a few months before he got that phone call, Mr. Dershowitz, his wife, children and grandchildren were vacationing at Mr. Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion. The friendship between the men started in the mid-1990s on Martha’s Vineyard. Not long after they met, Mr. Epstein invited Mr. Dershowitz to a birthday party for Mr. Wexner. Instead of accepting presents, the retail magnate had a tradition of asking friends to bring the most interesting person they had met over the last year. “He said, ‘I’d like to bring you,’” Mr. Dershowitz said. By any measure, Mr. Dershowitz had led an interesting life. At 28, after clerking for a Supreme Court justice, Mr. Dershowitz became the youngest professor ever hired by Harvard Law School. It was outside the classroom, however, where his fame grew. He handled celebrated cases, appeared as television commentator and wrote many books, fiction and nonfiction. His account of the von Bulow case, “Reversal of Fortune,” was made into a film in 1990 in which the actor Ron Silver donned a bushy mustache and aviator glasses to play Mr. Dershowitz. Along with enjoying celebrity, Mr. Dershowitz has also relished excoriating those he considers foes. He has taken on journalists, chided universities for coddling students and has been relentless in his defense of Israel, for example, accusing the writer Alice Walker of bigotry for refusing to allow an Israeli publisher to translate her novel “The Color Purple.” Soon after meeting Mr. Epstein, Mr. Dershowitz became drawn into his rarefied world. Mr. Epstein was an enigmatic figure living in an Upper East Side mansion once owned by Mr. Wexner, who had reportedly been his mentor. A college dropout who once worked for Bear Stearns, Mr. Epstein said he handled investments for billionaires, though other than Mr. Wexner, he declined to identify them. Along with prominent businessmen, Mr. Epstein’s friends included scientists, socialites and celebrities. He donated $30 million to finance scientific research at Harvard. President Bill Clinton and the actor Kevin Spacey flew aboard his private jet to Africa to discuss AIDS policy. Mr. Dershowitz also traveled on Mr. Epstein’s plane and was invited to join his chats with Ehud Barak, the former Israeli prime minister. The men grew so close that Mr. Dershowitz solicited Mr. Epstein’s feedback as he was writing books. In the interview in his Manhattan apartment, Mr. Dershowitz said Mr. Epstein was often surrounded by young women, but none struck him as underage. “I never got involved in his social life,” he said. However, in late 2005, around the time when Mr. Dershowitz and his family were vacationing at Mr. Epstein’s home, Palm Beach detectives were sifting through the trash outside. Acting on a tip, the authorities were investigating whether women working as assistants to Mr. Epstein were finding teenage girls to give him sexual massages. As the inquiry unfolded, detectives spoke with girls, some of whom were 15 or younger. After taking the case, Mr. Dershowitz responded, as was his way, with hardball tactics. He gathered information from the girls’ postings on social media accounts, which he claimed showed they were drug users or had lied to Mr. Epstein about their age. He also helped put together a defense team that included Roy Black, the prominent trial lawyer, and Kenneth W. Starr, who led the investigation into President Bill Clinton’s involvement with Monica Lewinsky. A local prosecutor, after meetings with Mr. Epstein’s defense team, recommended that he be charged only with a misdemeanor. The chief of the Palm Beach police department was so outraged by the proposal that he wrote a letter to the Justice Department asking it to get involved in the case. Over time, authorities found evidence suggesting that Mr. Epstein had paid dozens of girls for sexual services. However, Mr. Dershowitz and other lawyers struck a deal in which Mr. Epstein agreed to plead guilty in a Florida court to one count of soliciting prostitution and another of procuring a person under 18 for prostitution. At the same time, federal officials agreed not to bring charges against Mr. Epstein or any of his potential co-conspirators. A Florida judge sentenced Mr. Epstein to 18 months in jail, though he was allowed to spend days working on the outside. He was released in 2009 after serving 13 months — a shortened sentence for good behavior — and had to register as a sex offender. OPEN Timeline For a criminal lawyer, the residue of a case can remain long after it ends. Twenty years ago, Mr. Dershowitz received death threats after he helped secure Mr. Simpson’s acquittal on murder charges. And as a writer, he has imagined even worse plots. In one of his legal thrillers, “The Advocate’s Devil,” a lawyer discovers that a man for whom he had won an acquittal on rape charges is stalking his daughter. But Mr. Epstein’s case has come back to haunt him in ways he never expected. “I have been criticized for the cases I’ve taken,” he said, “but no one has ever criticized my personal life.” The events that pulled him back into Mr. Epstein’s orbit began unfolding in 2008. That year, two lawyers, Bradley J. Edwards and Paul G. Cassell, filed a lawsuit accusing the Justice Department of violating the rights of two women involved in Mr. Epstein’s case by not allowing them to challenge his plea deal. Then, in 2011, a British newspaper, The Mail on Sunday, published an article about Virginia Roberts Giuffre, another of Mr. Epstein’s accusers, who was then living in Australia. Ms. Giuffre, now a 32-year-old mother of three, told the newspaper that Mr. Epstein first started paying her for sexual services when she was 15. She also described traveling around the world on Mr. Epstein’s jet. “Basically, I was training to be a prostitute for him and his friends who shared his interest in young girls,” Ms. Giuffre told the newspaper. Soon afterward, the lawyers suing the Justice Department interviewed Ms. Giuffre and asked her if any of Mr. Epstein’s friends might have information about his exploitation of girls. When they mentioned Mr. Dershowitz, she replied, “Yes,” according to a transcript of the 2011 call. But last December, Mr. Dershowitz was drawn into the Justice Department lawsuit in an entirely different way. In a motion filed that month, Ms. Giuffre claimed that she and Mr. Dershowitz had sex when she was a minor aboard Mr. Epstein’s plane and at the money manager’s homes in New York, New Mexico and the Virgin Islands. She also asserted that Mr. Epstein had “sexually trafficked” her to other powerful friends, including Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. Buckingham Palace rejected the claims against the prince. The judge later struck Ms. Giuffre’s motion from the court filing, but by then, the accusations were being widely reported and broadcast. Mr. Dershowitz’s phone was ringing with calls from reporters seeking comment. At every opportunity, he called Ms. Giuffre’s claims “outrageous falsehoods” and called the lawyers who had made the filing, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Cassell, “villains” who helped fabricate the claims against him. Mr. Dershowitz said he would seek to have them disbarred, adding he had diary records and other information to show he was not at locations where Ms. Giuffre claimed they had met. “They’re prepared to lie, cheat and steal,” Mr. Dershowitz said in an interview on CNN in January. The two lawyers, who declined to be interviewed for this article, filed a defamation lawsuit against Mr. Dershowitz, who responded with his own counterclaim. Mr. Boies’s firm soon entered the fray. In late 2014, a lawyer at the firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, agreed to represent Ms. Giuffre in legal matters not directly related to the Justice Department lawsuit. When Mr. Dershowitz’s name surfaced in that lawsuit, another lawyer at the firm agreed to represent him before realizing that Ms. Giuffre was already a client. After the lawyer withdrew, Mr. Dershowitz expressed anger, saying that he had already told the firm his legal strategy before he was made aware of the conflict. Mr. Boies called the claim frivolous. “This idea of going to the press and asserting there is a conflict when you are not willing to make that claim in court is irresponsible,” said the lawyer, who is perhaps best known for representing the Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore against George W. Bush in his challenge to the 2000 election results. That incident, however, was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods. In October, during a deposition in the defamation case against him, Mr. Dershowitz testified that he had received a confidential phone call from a female friend of Ms. Giuffre, who provided him with troubling information. According to Mr. Dershowitz’s testimony, the woman said that Ms. Giuffre had told her that she had been pressured to level sexual charges at Mr. Dershowitz. She also described a plan to accuse Mr. Wexner of having sex with Ms. Giuffre when she was underage. “Virginia and her lawyers hoped to get $1 billion, B-I-L-L-I-O-N, $1 billion or half of his net worth,” Mr. Dershowitz testified he was told, calling the plan an “extortion” attempt. A lawyer for Mr. Wexner, John W. Zeiger, did not respond to telephone calls. But a person briefed on the matter but who was not authorized to speak publicly about it said that Mr. Wexner had never met Ms. Giuffre and no extortion attempt was made. Mr. Dershowitz says he wants nothing more than for Ms. Giuffre to publicly retract her claims. He insists that Mr. Boies privately told him that he believed Mr. Dershowitz was innocent and that Ms. Giuffre, while believing the allegations, was mistaken or confused. Mr. Boies says Mr. Dershowitz’s claims are ludicrous. “I never said to him that I concluded that my clients’ assertions were incorrect,” he said. “I didn’t say that. I didn’t say anything like that.” On Friday, Mr. Dershowitz filed an affidavit in a Florida state court, containing notes of his conversations with Mr. Boies that he says support his account. In it, he described Mr. Boies as telling him that if his client refused to withdraw her claim, “he could not ethically continue to represent her.” Hours later, Mr. Boies’s firm asked the Florida judge to seal Mr. Dershowitz’s affidavit, and in a related filing, Mr. Boies described some of Mr. Dershowitz’s assertions as “misleading” or “flatly untrue.” In this intensifying game of legal chicken, it is not clear who will flinch first. Ms. Giuffre seems unwilling to yield and used a recent court filing to fire back at Mr. Dershowitz. “He is lying by denying that he had sex with me,” said Ms. Giuffre, who declined to be interviewed for this article. Mr. Dershowitz says he is no longer friendly with Mr. Epstein, who lives once again in his lavish Upper East side mansion. Still, like it or not, the lawyer remains tethered to him. Having defended Mr. Epstein, he said that he could not express his feelings about him. Several well-known criminal defense lawyers said that personal attacks were an occupational hazard. “Alan has never shied away from a fight in his life,” said Abbe D. Lowell, a lawyer in Washington whose clients have included the lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who was convicted of corruption in 2006. “He has been that kind of lightning rod.” For a man who has never lacked for self-confidence, Mr. Dershowitz now finds himself saddled with regret. Two clients, he said, have backed away from him because of his accuser’s claims, and he worries whether universities like Johns Hopkins will invite him to give speeches or present him with awards. He now says he thinks that he should have said no when Mr. Epstein called. “I think I do regret having taken the case in light of everything that has happened since,” he said. “If I could give back the money I made in this case and have this episode of my life erased, I’d do it.” © 2018 The New York Times Company Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss > On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 7:15 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 Dershowitz and Boies spar in 'an increasingly virulent war' over rape accusation BY DEBRA CASSENS WEISS POSTED DECEMBER 15, 2015, 7:46 AM CST • • • inShare • • Updated: Former Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz says he initially hesitated a decade ago when a friend sought his help fighting allegations that he paid underage girls to give him sexual massages. Dershowitz took the case anyway and arranged a plea deal for his client, wealthy money manager Jeffrey Epstein. Now Dershowitz is defending his own reputation after a lawsuit challenging the plea deal brought an accusation that he had sex with a woman when she was a minor, the New York Times reports. The accuser, represented by lawyer David Boies, never filed a complaint with police or a suit against Dershowitz. She testified in a suit claiming the Justice Department violated the rights of two women in Epstein’s case by not allowing them to challenge the plea deal. The accusation led to “an increasingly virulent war” between Boies and Dershowitz, according to the New York Times. The woman’s claims, Dershowitz has said, are “outrageous falsehoods,” and two other lawyers who made the sex claim in a court filing are “villains.” Those two lawyers, Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassell, alleged defamation in a suit against Dershowitz, who filed a counterclaim. “Over a five-decade career,” the Times story says, “Dershowitz has represented some of America’s most prominent criminal defendants, including O. J. Simpson, Leona Helmsley, Mike Tyson and Claus von Bulow. Now, he finds himself on the other side, in a legal battle to clear his own name. At 77, he is struggling to absorb a bitter lesson—that choosing the wrong client can exact its own cost.” Boies’ firm, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, is representing the accuser pro bono in the defamation case as part of a program to assist victims of abuse, according to prior coverage by Reuters. The firm also discussed representing Dershowitz before the conflict was discovered, according to Dershowitz. He claims he wasn’t made aware of the conflict until after he revealed his legal strategy to the firm. (Even if there was no attorney-client relationship formed, the firm could be disqualified if Dershowitz made confidential statements to the firm in contemplation of possible litigation, according to this post by the Faculty Lounge.) Boies responded that Dershowitz was “irresponsible” for making a conflict claim in the press without being willing to assert it in court. According to the New York Times story, the incident “was only the start of an escalating battle in which each man has accused the other of twisting words and spewing falsehoods.” Dershowitz claimed in a deposition in the defamation case that he received a phone call from a friend of the accuser, who said she was pressured to make the claim against Dershowitz and another friend of Epstein’s in hopes of recovering $1 billion. Dershowitz also claims Boies privately told him he believed Dershowitz is innocent and his accuser is mistaken or confused. Dershowitz filed a court affidavit(PDF) claiming Boies told him he could not ethically continue to represent the woman if she did not withdraw her claim. The affidavit includes Dershowitz’s contemporaneous notes of his conversations with Boies supporting his claims about Boies’ statements. It also says that a mutual friend attended the meetings in which Boies made his comments. “Over the course of several conversations in person, over the phone, and on Skype,” Dershowitz’s affidavit says, “Mr. Boies repeatedly stated that he did not believe the allegations that [his client] had made against me were factually true.” Boies denies making such a comment. “I never said to him that I concluded that my clients’ assertions were incorrect,” Boies told the Times. “I didn’t say that. I didn’t say anything like that.” Dershowitz responded to Boies’ denial in a statement to the ABA Journal. “I doubt that my friend David Boies will be willing to state under oath that he did not make the statements that I quote in my affidavit,” Dershowitz said. “It’s one thing to deny making them to the media. It’s quite another thing to deny them under pains and penalties of perjury.” Typo and missing period corrected at 9 a.m. Additional information about Dershowitz’s affidavit and statement from Dershowitz added on Dec. 17. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 6:54 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: #MeToo Dirty Dershowitz at UIUC April 26 https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her Consort CIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. I really like this picture of Orgy Epstein, Dirty Dershowitz and Harvard. Just shows you that the sub silentio Motto of Harvard is: Cupiditas! As for #MeToo Dirty Dersh his Motto while travelling on Epstein’s Lolita Express to and from Epstein’s Orgy Island in order to cavort with underage girls, prostitutes and their Male Sexual Predators and Abusers with one of the girls alleging that #MeToo Dirty Dersh had abused her (last time I read being represented by David Boies and his law firm) is: Semper Ubi Sub Ubi! Be sure to wear your Tighty Whities for his events on April 26—on your head! Fab. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Meanwhile, Israeli jets attacked an airbase outside Palmyra, killing 14 Syrian troops. About 10 billion land animals are raised for food in the United States every year. Many of those animals are raised on factory farms. That industrial method of farming produces vast amounts of pollution. It includes 37 percent of methane emissions, which is more than 20 times the global warming impact of carbon dioxide. Manure, along with its heavy metals and toxic chemicals, leeches into the soil. And waste lagoons not only contaminate our drinking water, they deplete it as well. Scott Edwards, co-director of the Food & Water Justice project at Food & Water Watch, joins the show. The Department of Homeland Security is creating a database to monitor journalists, bloggers, and what it calls "media influencers." The database would track 290,000 news sources (both foreign and domestic), writing, and speaking in 100 languages. Media observers see the database as nothing less than a frontal attack on freedom of the press. Brian and John speak with Tim Karr, senior director of strategy and communications at Free Press. Monday's regular segment "Education for Liberation with Bill Ayers" looks at the state of education across the country. What's happening in our schools, colleges, and universities, and what impact does it have on the world around us? Today focuses on a recent report on discriminatory racial discipline disparities and the teacher strikes across the nation with Bill Ayers, an activist, educator and the author of the book "Demand the Impossible: A Radical Manifesto." Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban was reelected yesterday on a strongly anti-immigrant platform. His party is projected to win 133 of the 199 seats in parliament. This will be Orban's fourth term. During that time, he was transformed his Fidesz Party from a liberal party to a right-wing populist party. Sputnik News analyst Walter Smolarek joins Brian and John. French rail workers continue intermittent strikes that are expected to last three months. These strikes are a major challenge to President Emmanuel Macron's pro-business plans to reshape the French economy. Alex Gordon, former president of the National Union of Rail, Maritime, & Transport Workers, joins the show. The hosts continue the regular segment of the worst and most misleading headlines. Brian and John speak with Steve Patt, an independent journalist whose critiques of the mainstream media have been a feature of his blog Left I on the News, which you can find at lefti.blogspot.com, and Nicole Roussell, a producer of this show. https://sputniknews.com/…/201804101063381769-bombs-away-tr…/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Apr 10 16:24:23 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 16:24:23 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Attacking Syria "Impeachable" References: <5acce368a3bfd_77385dca21c65302696@ip-10-0-0-119.mail> Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:24 AM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: FW: Attacking Syria "Impeachable" Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Institute for Public Accuracy via ActionNetwork.org > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:17 AM To: francis.a.boyle at gmail.com Subject: Attacking Syria "Impeachable" Attacking Syria "Impeachable" [On Twitter] FRANCIS BOYLE, fboyle at illinois.edu Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He said today: "Any U.S. attack targeting the Syrian government or its forces would clearly violate both U.S. and international law. When Obama was in a similar position in 2013, his advisor Ben Rhodes [see below] has since commented that they turned back largely because they were afraid of impeachment. That fear is well founded. While the prospect of impeaching Trump is thrown around frequently for partisan purposes, on this issue, the constitution is clear: Initiating a war or any such attack without authorization is clearly impeachable. "Last year, at the National Press Club, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., claimed the authority to target the Syrian government stemmed from the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force. Gen. Dunford was totally incorrect. The AUMF passed after 9/11 has indeed been used to justify the bombing campaign purporting to target ISIS, but it cannot possibly be used to justify targeting the Syrian government. "Excuses of 'humanitarian intervention' have no basis in international law and in these circumstances are transparently hollow. Israel apparently just attacked Syria (illegal) from Lebanese airspace (also illegal). Israel itself just openly admitted that it is killing Palestinian civilian protesters -- part of a decades-long brazenly illegal policy. The U.S. representative to the UN, Nikki Haley, prevented even an inquiry by the UN into the matter. There's no evidence of any humanitarian concern here, simply a search for pretexts to pursue geopolitical goals which may well include carving up Syria." Boyle’s books include Foundations of World Order (Duke University Press). In 2017, Ben Rhodes, Obama's Deputy National Security Advisor, and foreign policy speechwriter, told Politico that President Obama feared impeachment if he targeted the Syrian government: Rhodes: "The only country in the world that was prepared to join us [in attacking the Assad government] was France. And we had no domestic legal basis. We actually had Congress warning us against taking action without congressional authorization, which we interpreted as the president could face impeachment." Politico: "Really? Was the prospect of impeachment actually a factor in your conversations?" Rhodes: "That was a factor. Go back and read the letters from Boehner, letters from the Republican members of Congress. They laid down markers that this would not be constitutional." House Speaker John Boehner wrote to Obama in 2013: “It is essential you address on what basis any use of force would be legally justified and how the justification comports with the exclusive authority of Congressional authorization under Article I of the Constitution.” For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167 April 10, 2018 Institute for Public Accuracy 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org * ipa at accuracy.org [Action Network] Sent via Action Network, a free online toolset anyone can use to organize. Click here to sign up and get started building an email list and creating online actions today. Action Network is an open platform that empowers individuals and groups to organize for progressive causes. 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His confirmation hearing in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee will take place on Thursday. The vote is expected to be tight and we have a real chance to stop him. That is why we need you to send this letter to the members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Tell them to vote No on Pompeo. Pompeo advocates military intervention and regime change in North Korea, and supports ongoing unauthorized conflicts like the Saudi-led war on Yemen. When the Iran nuclear deal was signed, Pompeo blasted it as being “not foreign policy, it’s surrender.” He has since compared the Tehran government to ISIS and has promised to do all he can to destroy the nuclear deal. As Secretary of State, he may now have the opportunity. Pompeo’s confirmation hearing is Thursday. Tell the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that Pompeo is a war-hawk unfit for America’s top diplomatic position. Not only does Pompeo advocate for war, but he also cozies up to hate groups and Islamophobes. Pompeo arranged a congressional briefing for Act for America and accepted an award from the group. This is a group that promotes “anti-Sharia” state laws and advocates against new mosques being built. Pompeo will be coming into the Trump administration at the same time as John Bolton, a man who still says the Iraq war was a good idea and is hell-bent on confronting Iran and North Korea. Bolton is closely associated with Pamela Geller, who had a series of ads placed on busses portraying Palestinian children as terrorists. Together, Bolton and Pompeo threaten to drag us into new, even more dangerous wars. Since Bolton’s appointment did not require a vote, a vote for Pompeo is also a vote for Bolton and a vote for war. Act now to tell the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to oppose Pompeo. 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Obviously not, given we have invaded and destroyed seven nations since Iraq. Perhaps the American people need to be more militant, as in France, it does at least make international news, unlike the biggest demos against war in 2003, they may have made it to some European nations, but they sure didn’t make it to the Philippines or Thailand. Not on any of the cable news stations, or even Al Jazeera at the time, or so I was told. Civil resistance with strikes, sit downs, boycotts, all those things that will if nothing else, embarrass the government? Chris Hedges has suggested blocking traffic with old cars piled up from junk yards, or whatever we can use to bring about change and an end to war etc. I’m too old for that. Threatening Impeachment is a good idea, it would have to include every other President, as well. So we know how far that would go. Insist on Congressional approval to go to war? Now, I’m going to laugh, and I really shouldn’t given this is a very serious issue. We could protest in front of our Rep. Rodney Davis’s office, yeah right, here is me laughing again. Maybe you have a better suggestion. On Apr 10, 2018, at 15:47, C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss > wrote: The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. What would be the popular response to a 'shock and awe' invasion of Syria, a la Iraq? —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Apr 10 23:34:52 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 23:34:52 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Someone is doing something in Chicago Message-ID: [Answer Chicago's photo.] Emergency Protest: No War on Syria! Date TBD Public · Hosted by Answer Chicago Interested Going... Share * clock 4 Dates · Apr 12 - Apr 16 · CDT * APR12 Thu6:00 PM APR13 Fri6:00 PM APR15 Sun6:00 PM +1 * pin Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago 401 N Wabash Avenue, Chicago, Illinois 60611 Show Map * * About * Discussion 125 Interested Share this event with your friends Share Details We will not be rushed into war by the Trump regime and the pentagon! Starting with April 12, this protest will happen at Trump Tower (Wabash and Wacker) the night after the U.S. bombing of Syria or the night after the U.S. announces a further escalation of the illegal war on Syria. The U.S. war on Syria is built on lies, misinformation and a fraudulent pretext of humanitarian intervention just like the war in Iraq. The U.S. is the destroyer of the Middle East, not a savior and the decades of U.S. war have caused the greatest refugee crisis in history and untold misery and suffering. The aggression and threats against Syria, Russia, China, Iran and other sovereign countries are a grave danger to the people of the world and must be resisted and shut down! Stop the U.S. war on Syria! We Demand Money for Schools, Health Care, Housing and Jobs, Not for War! Stop the attacks on immigrants, Black Lives Matter and all working and oppressed people! People United Against Oppression (a Muslim-led social justice org),BLM Women of Faith and Gay Liberation Network are supporting this action. To endorse call (773) 245-6896 or message us! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Wed Apr 11 10:46:39 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 05:46:39 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] US war Message-ID: <8D2C444D-5327-402A-97BD-2D38D9537B9D@gmail.com> [Pepe Escobar] Syria as Sarajevo remixed - rinse and repeat: Who wants to revamp/ramp up the war - any war: the usual suspects in D.C.; Butcher of Yemen Wahhabi Takfiri MBS; Sun King Macron; Israel. Who's warning against it: Moscow, Tehran, Beijing. Once again; it's NATO/GCC vs. Eurasia integration. Rinse and repeat. ### From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 11 12:54:35 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:54:35 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo: "Common Ground" on Genocidal Chief Illiniwak v UIlliniwaks Admitted Illiniwak Was Sick Joke & Demented Fraud in 1990 Message-ID: Indictment of the Federal Government of the U.S. for the commission of international crimes and petition for orders mandating its proscription and dissolution as an international criminal conspiracy and criminal organization By Francis A. Boyle, Professor of International Law 18 September 1992 Introduction All citizens of the World Community have both the right and the duty under public international law to sit in judgment over a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental norms of international criminal law committed by any member state of that same World Community. Such is the case for the International Tribunal of Indigenous Peoples and Oppressed Nationalities in the United States of America that convenes in San Francisco during the weekend of October 1-4, 1992. Its weighty but important task is to examine the long history of international criminal activity that has been perpetrated by the Federal Government of the United States of America against the Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America since it was founded in 1787. Toward that end, I have the honor to present to the Members of this Tribunal the following charges against the Federal Government of the United States of America under international criminal law. In light of the gravity, severity, and longstanding nature of these international crimes and also in light of the fact that the Federal Government of the United States of America appears to be irrevocably committed to continuing down this path of lawlessness and criminality against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America and elsewhere, I hereby petition the Members of this Tribunal to issue an Order proscribing the Federal Government of the United States of America as an International Criminal Conspiracy and a Criminal Organization under the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles as well as the other sources of public international law specified below. For that reason, I also request that the Members of this Tribunal issue an Order dissolving the Federal Government of the United States of America as a legal and political entity. Finally, I ask this Tribunal to declare that international legal sovereignty over the Territories principally inhabited by the Native American Peoples, the New Afrikan People, the Mexicano People, and the People of Puerto Rico resides in the hands of these respective Peoples Themselves. In this regard, I should point out that the final Decision of this Tribunal will qualify as a judicial decision within the meaning of article 38(1)(d) of the Statute of the International Court of Justice and will therefore constitute a subsidiary means for the determination of rules of law for international law and practice. The Statute of the International Court of Justice is an integral part of the United Nations Charter under article 92 thereof. Thus, this Tribunal's Decision can be relied upon by some future International Criminal Court or Tribunal, as well as by any People or State of the World Community that desires to initiate criminal proceedings against named individuals for the commission of the following international crimes. The Decision of this Tribunal shall serve as adequate notice to the appropriate officials in the United States Federal Government that they bear personal criminal responsibility under international law and the domestic legal systems of all Peoples and States in the World Community for designing and implementing these illegal, criminal and reprehensible policies and practices against Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America. Hereinafter, the Federal Government of the United States of America will be referred to as the Defendant. BILL OF PARTICULARS AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA The Native American Peoples 1. The Defendant has perpetrated innumerable Crimes Against eace, Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes against Native American Peoples as recognized by the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles. 2. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Genocide against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. 3. The Defendant has perpetrated the International Crime of Apartheid against Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1973 International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid. 4. The Defendant has perpetrated a gross and consistent pattern of violations of the most fundamental human rights of Native American Peoples as recognized by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights. 5. The Defendant has perpetrated numerous and repeated violations of the 1965 International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination against Native American Peoples. 6. The Defendant has systematically violated 371 treaties it concluded with Native American Peoples in wanton disregard of the basic principle of public international law and practice dictating pacta sunt servanda. 7. The Defendant has denied and violated the international legal right of Native American Peoples to self-determination as recognized by the 1945 United Nations Charter, the 1966 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the 1966 International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, fundamental principles of customary international law, and jus cogens. 8. The Defendant has violated the seminal United Nations Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Territories of 1960 with respect to Native American Peoples and Territories. Pursuant thereto, the Defendant has an absolute international legal obligation to decolonize Native American Territories immediately and to transfer all powers it currently exercises there to the Native American Peoples. 9. The Defendant has illegally refused to accord full-scope protections as Prisoners-of-War to captured Native American independence fighters in violation of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and Additional Protocol I thereto of 1977. The Defendant's treatment of captured Native American independence fighters as common criminals and terrorists constitutes a grave breach of the Geneva Accords and thus a serious war crime. 10. The Defendant has deliberately and systematically permitted, aided and abetted, solicited and conspired to commit the dumping, transportation, and location of nuclear, toxic, medical and otherwise hazardous waste materials on Native American Territories across North America and has thus created a clear and present danger to the lives, health, safety, and physical and mental well-being of Native American Peoples in gross violation of article 3 and article 2(c) of the 1948 Genocide Convention, inter alia: Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; .... Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 11 16:32:34 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:32:34 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?GENOCIDAL_CHIEF_ILLINIWAK=3A=93C?= =?windows-1252?q?hancellor=92s_Critical_Conversations=94_featuring_Erwin_?= =?windows-1252?q?Chemerinsky_and_Geoffrey_Stone_-_TUESDAY=2C_April_17?= Message-ID: Chemmy is Dean of Berkeley Law School, where the Berkeley Law Faculty maliciously gave their most prestigious endowed Chair to John Yoo, Bush Jr.’s Torture Lawyer, War Criminal and Felon. Chemmy is knowingly permitting War Criminal Yoo to turn his Berkeley Law Students into Torturers, War Criminals and Felons just like Chemmy’s Endowed Professor Yoo. How dare Chemmy come in here and lecture us about Genocidal Chief Illiniwak! Stoner was Provost and Law Dean at the right-wing, racist, bigoted, reactionary, pro- apartheid University of Chicago that adamantly refused to Divest from the Criminal Apartheid Regime in South Africa and was proud of it, and also continues to practice Urban Apartheid against the surrounding African American Communities. How dare Stoner come in here and lecture us about Genocidal Chief Illiniwak! Fab, AB, UChicago, 1971 Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Turner, Carolyn Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:20 AM To: Law * College of Law Community Subject: “Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 Event date is TUESDAY, April 17. “CHANCELLOR’S CRITICAL CONVERSATIONS” FEATURING ERWIN CHEMERINSKY AND GEOFFREY STONE Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12 – 1 p.m. Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, Colwell Playhouse 500 South Goodwin Avenue Urbana, Illinois The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign will host a conversation on the topic of free speech on April 17 in Colwell Playhouse at Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, 500 S. Goodwin Avenue in Urbana. Speakers will be Erwin Chemerinsky, the dean of the University of California, Berkeley School of Law; and Geoffrey Stone, a former law school dean and former provost at the University of Chicago. The conversation will be moderated by University of Illinois College of Law dean Vikram D. Amar. “Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” is a series of events designed to explore difficult issues and answer challenging questions together, as a university community. The goal of each event is to challenge beliefs, opinions and viewpoints through careful listening and the thoughtful expression of different voices, perspectives and ideas. Sponsored by the Office of the Chancellor. Event is free and open to the public. Registration is not required. Parking is available in the Krannert Center parking garage and at metered spaces surrounding the Center. For more information: https://news.illinois.edu/view/6367/634563 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Turner, Carolyn Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 12:41 PM To: Law * College of Law Community Subject: "A Conversation with Alan Dershowitz" - TWO events on April 26 "A CONVERSATION WITH ALAN DERSHOWITZ" AT FOELLINGER AUDITORIUM Thursday, April 26 7:30 p.m. Foellinger Auditorium University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Alan Dershowitz, noted attorney and advocate for civil rights and civil liberties, will be on the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign campus on Thursday, April 26 for a series of events. The day will culminate in a public event at Foellinger Auditorium. The event is free and open to the public. A live stream of the event will be available. View event posting here. The event is hosted by the Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law; and the Chabad Center for Jewish Life at University of Illinois. College of Law students, faculty, and staff are also invited to attend a separate event: "A Conversation with Alan Dershowitz" Thursday, April 26 3:30 p.m. Deloitte Auditorium Gies College of Business University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r-szoke at illinois.edu Wed Apr 11 19:00:08 2018 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 19:00:08 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Horrorshow! Deep State conspiracy against Trump! Message-ID: [Breaking News from Moneynews] Breaking News from Moneynews President Donald Trump's approval rating has hit a one-year high of 41 percent, according to the latest Quinnipiac University national poll. Read More Here Special: Smoking-Gun Proof the FBI Is Out to Get Trump These 8 Foods Prevent and Reverse Alzheimer's Dear Newsmax Reader, Listen… No one is immune from this — not you, your family, or even President Trump. First we must tell you… This is all in Dr. Jerome Corsi’s new book, Killing the Deep State… which just hit the New York Times best-seller list despite their every attempt to keep it buried and off the list! See, what we’re about to reveal to you could have dire repercussions for all of us. However, we put God, country, and family above all else, which means we have a moral and ethical obligation to share this with you. We’re in grave danger. The shadow government running our beloved country is getting stronger, more reckless and dangerous. Recent discoveries by Dr. Corsi, New York Times best-selling author of Unfit for Command and Obama Nation, reveal the shocking depths to which this shadow government will go to destroy Trump — and dismantle America as we know it. Please, we urge you to read Dr. Corsi’s new book, Killing the Deep State. It explains everything. [http://news.newsmax.com/images/139264/pic.jpg] When we say you won’t believe who is involved… you won’t. Be prepared to have your mind blown. Look… If Trump goes down we all go down. It will be a living nightmare for us, our family and friends. Unimaginable horrors and unspeakable crimes against U.S. citizens will explode. In fact, we feel so strongly you must read this, we’re giving it to you — as one of our faithful Newsmax readers. Simply click here or keep reading below to get this $30 best-seller for FREE. [http://news.newsmax.com/images/139264/button.png] Your Friends at Newsmax To Read More Breaking Financial News go to Moneynews [Facebook] [Twitter] [Google] [YouTube] [Forward to a Friend] This email is never sent unsolicited. You have received this Newsmax email because you subscribed to it or someone forwarded it to you. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7CB677E4-6322-43F3-B255-CF5808BA3172@gmail.com> A better account: > On Apr 11, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > Breaking News from Moneynews > > President Donald Trump's approval rating has hit a one-year high of 41 percent, according to the latest Quinnipiac University national poll. Read More Here > > Special: Smoking-Gun Proof the FBI Is Out to Get Trump > > These 8 Foods Prevent and Reverse Alzheimer's > > > Dear Newsmax Reader, > > Listen… > > No one is immune from this — not you, your family, or even President Trump. > > First we must tell you… > > This is all in Dr. Jerome Corsi’s new book, Killing the Deep State… which just hit the New York Times best-seller list despite their every attempt to keep it buried and off the list! > > See, what we’re about to reveal to you could have dire repercussions for all of us. However, we put God, country, and family above all else, which means we have a moral and ethical obligation to share this with you. > > We’re in grave danger. The shadow government running our beloved country is getting stronger, more reckless and dangerous. > > Recent discoveries by Dr. Corsi, New York Times best-selling author of Unfit for Command and Obama Nation, reveal the shocking depths to which this shadow government will go to destroy Trump — and dismantle America as we know it. > > Please, we urge you to read Dr. Corsi’s new book, Killing the Deep State. It explains everything. > > > > When we say you won’t believe who is involved… you won’t. Be prepared to have your mind blown. > > Look… > > If Trump goes down we all go down. > > It will be a living nightmare for us, our family and friends. Unimaginable horrors and unspeakable crimes against U.S. citizens will explode. > > In fact, we feel so strongly you must read this, we’re giving it to you — as one of our faithful Newsmax readers. Simply click here or keep reading below to get this $30 best-seller for FREE. > > > > Your Friends at Newsmax > > > To Read More Breaking Financial News go to Moneynews > > > > > > This email is never sent unsolicited. You have received this Newsmax email because you subscribed to it or someone forwarded it to you. To opt out, see the links below. > > TO ADVERTISE > For information on advertising, please contact Newsmax Advertising Sales via email. > TO SUBSCRIBE > If this email has been forwarded to you and you would like to sign up, please click here. > Remove your email address from our list or modify your profile. We respect your right to privacy. View our policy. > > This email was sent by: > Newsmax.com > 1501 Northpoint Parkway, Suite 104 > West Palm Beach, FL 33407 USA > > 1788156 > 010102bauw1q > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 11 21:44:26 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 21:44:26 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?FW=3A_Trump_Threatening_World_War_III_I?= =?utf-8?q?n_Syria_=E2=80=93_Countercurrents?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:44 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: Trump Threatening World War III In Syria – Countercurrents [https://countercurrents.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/trump-gun.jpg] Trump Threatening World War III In Syria – Countercurrents Historically this latest eruption of American militarism at the start of the 21st Century is akin to that of America opening the 20th Century by means of the U.S.-instigated Spanish-American War in 1898. Then the Republican administration of President William McKinley stole their colonial empire from Spain in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines; inflicted a near genocidal war[Read More...] https://countercurrents.org/2018/04/11/trump-threatening-world-war-iii-in-syria/ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Apr 11 23:05:12 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 23:05:12 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A__FW=3A_Trump_Threatening_World_W?= =?utf-8?q?ar_III_In_Syria_=E2=80=93_Countercurrents?= References: Message-ID: Trump Threatening World War III In Syria in Imperialism — by Professor Francis A Boyle — April 11, 2018 [https://countercurrents.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/trump-gun.jpg] Historically this latest eruption of American militarism at the start of the 21st Century is akin to that of America opening the 20th Century by means of the U.S.-instigated Spanish-American War in 1898. Then the Republican administration of President William McKinley stole their colonial empire from Spain in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines; inflicted a near genocidal war against the Filipino people; while at the same time illegally annexing the Kingdom of Hawaii and subjecting the Native Hawaiian people (who call themselves the Kanaka Maoli) to genocidal conditions. Additionally, McKinley’s military and colonial expansion into the Pacific was also designed to secure America’s economic exploitation of China pursuant to the euphemistic rubric of the “open door” policy. But over the next four decades America’s aggressive presence, policies, and practices in the so-called “Pacific” Ocean would ineluctably pave the way for Japan’s attack at Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 194l, and thus America’s precipitation into the ongoing Second World War. Today a century later the serial imperial aggressions launched, waged, and menaced by the neoconservative Republican Bush Junior administration then the neoliberal Democratic Obama administration and now the reactionary Trump administration threaten to set off World War III. By shamelessly exploiting the terrible tragedy of 11 September 2001, the Bush Junior administration set forth to steal a hydrocarbon empire from the Muslim States and Peoples of Color living in Central Asia and the Middle East and Africa under the bogus pretexts of (1) fighting a war against “international terrorism” or “Islamic fundamentalism”; and/or (2) eliminating weapons of mass destruction; and/or (3) the promotion of democracy; and/or (4) self-styled humanitarian intervention and its avatar “responsibility to protect” (R2P). Only this time the geopolitical stakes are infinitely greater than they were a century ago: control and domination of the world’s hydrocarbon resources and thus the very fundaments and energizers of the global economic system – oil and gas. The Bush Junior/ Obama administrations targeted the remaining hydrocarbon reserves of Africa, Latin America (e.g., the Pentagon’s reactivization of the U.S. Fourth Fleet in 2008), and Southeast Asia for further conquest and domination, together with the strategic choke-points at sea and on land required for their transportation (e.g., Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Djibouti). Today the U.S. Fourth Fleet threatens oil-rich Venezuela and Ecuador for sure along with Cuba. Toward accomplishing that first objective, in 2007 the neoconservative Bush Junior administration announced the establishment of the U.S. Pentagon’s Africa Command (AFRICOM) in order to better control, dominate, steal, and exploit both the natural resources and the variegated peoples of the continent of Africa, the very cradle of our human species. In 2011 Libya and the Libyans proved to be the first victims to succumb to AFRICOM under the neoliberal Obama administration, thus demonstrating the truly bi-partisan and non-partisan nature of U.S. imperial foreign policy decision-making. Let us put aside as beyond the scope of this paper the American conquest, extermination, and ethnic cleansing of the Indians from off the face of the continent of North America. Since America’s instigation of the Spanish-American War in 1898, U.S. foreign policy decision-making has been alternatively conducted by reactionary imperialists, conservative imperialists, and liberal imperialists for the past 120 years and counting. Trump is just another White Racist Iron Fist for Judeo-Christian U.S. Imperialism and Capitalism smashing all over the world. Trump forthrightly and proudly admitted that the United States is in the Middle East in order to steal their oil. At least he was honest about it. Unlike his predecessors who lied about the matter going back to President George Bush Sr. with his War for Persian Gulf oil against Iraq in 1991. Just recently, President Trump publicly threatened illegal U.S. military intervention against oil-rich Venezuela. Q.E.D. This world-girdling burst of U.S. imperialism at the start of humankind’s new millennium is what my teacher, mentor, and friend the late, great Professor Hans Morgenthau denominated “unlimited imperialism” in his seminal book Politics Among Nations 52-53 (4th ed. 1968): The outstanding historic examples of unlimited imperialism are the expansionist policies of Alexander the Great, Rome, the Arabs in the seventh and eighth centuries, Napoleon I, and Hitler. They all have in common an urge toward expansion which knows no rational limits, feeds on its own successes and, if not stopped by a superior force, will go on to the confines of the political world. This urge will not be satisfied so long as there remains anywhere a possible object of domination–a politically organized group of men which by its very independence challenges the conqueror’s lust for power. It is, as we shall see, exactly the lack of moderation, the aspiration to conquer all that lends itself to conquest, characteristic of unlimited imperialism, which in the past has been the undoing of the imperialistic policies of this kind…. Since September 11, 2001, it is the Unlimited Imperialists along the lines of Alexander, Rome, Napoleon, and Hitler who have been in charge of conducting American foreign policy decision-making. The factual circumstances surrounding the outbreaks of both the First World War and the Second World War currently hover like twin Swords of Damocles over the heads of all humanity. Professor Francis A. Boyle is an international law expert and served as Legal Advisor to the Palestine Liberation Organization and Yasser Arafat on the 1988 Palestinian Declaration of Independence, as well as to the Palestinian Delegation to the Middle East Peace Negotiations from 1991 to 1993, where he drafted the Palestinian counter-offer to the now defunct Oslo Agreement. His books include “ Palestine, Palestinians and International Law” (2003), and “ The Palestinian Right of Return under International Law” (2010). [https://countercurrents.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/trump-gun.jpg] Trump Threatening World War III In Syria – Countercurrents Historically this latest eruption of American militarism at the start of the 21st Century is akin to that of America opening the 20th Century by means of the U.S.-instigated Spanish-American War in 1898. Then the Republican administration of President William McKinley stole their colonial empire from Spain in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines; inflicted a near genocidal war[Read More...] https://countercurrents.org/2018/04/11/trump-threatening-world-war-iii-in-syria/ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Apr 11 23:08:40 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 23:08:40 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: How would YOU make the world safer? References: <5ace41c632283_b43ab31974555c2@worker.ami.nbuild.prd.useast1.3dna.io.mail> Message-ID: [CODEPINK.ORG] [(GDAMS)] Dear Karen, Join CODEPINK and organizations around the world to take a stand against military spending. While Washington continues to increase funding for the Pentagon, it is slashing essential services like clean water, schools, and infrastructure. The Global Days of Action against Military Spending (GDAMS) is an international movement to raise awareness about the massive amount of funds allocated to militaries. From April 14 - May 3, join CODEPINK online and in the streets to take action! Where can you find us? * Local actions are listed here & here. * You can also show your support through CODEPINK’s Facebook,Twitter, and Instagram by sharing our actions and messages. Do you need materials? * Find some here. Are you going to plan an action in your area? * Send us an email and let us know! Also, don’t forget to share your pictures! Did you know? * By redirecting just 10% of worldwide military spending – which reached $1.68 trillion in 2016 – we could help reverse climate change and end poverty and hunger by 2030. * In 2016, the US alone spent $741.3 billion on foreign and domestic militarism; meanwhile, 43 million people in America live in poverty or qualify as low income. And Congress has just voted to increase that spending by another $165 billion over the next two years. We should be spending our taxpayer money on meeting the needs of our citizens, not on subsidizing weapons that kill innocent civilians halfway around the world. Since CODEPINK launched the Divest from the War Machine campaignin February, we and 70+ partners have been focused on moving money out of war and into peace. GDAMS 2018 is a great way to get involved in the Divest campaign; join or organize an action in your local area to demand a change in how OUR government spends OUR money. Onwards toward peace, Rita, Nancy, Samira, and Sarah [Donate Now!] [http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/themes/57bdd4fd79bffa57d0000008/attachments/original/1511733600/Twitter.png?1511733600] [http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/themes/57bdd4fd79bffa57d0000008/attachments/original/1511733600/Facebook.png?1511733600] [http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/themes/57bdd4fd79bffa57d0000008/attachments/original/1511733600/Instagram.png?1511733600] [http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/themes/57bdd4fd79bffa57d0000008/attachments/original/1511733718/YouTube.png?1511733718] [http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/themes/57bdd4fd79bffa57d0000008/attachments/original/1511733600/Flickr.png?1511733600] This email was sent to karenaram at hotmail.com. To stop receiving emails, click here. To update your email subscription, contact info at codepink.org. © Copyright 2018 | www.codepink.org Created with NationBuilder -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brussel at illinois.edu Thu Apr 12 00:37:56 2018 From: brussel at illinois.edu (Brussel, Morton K) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 00:37:56 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Syyria US Russia Message-ID: <3F510942-601C-426D-87A9-1B5462216652@illinois.edu> A serious, reasoned, rebuttal to the crap coming from Trump-USA, May-UK,Macron-France, and others. https://uslaboragainstwar.org/Article/79425/russian-envoy-to-the-un-us-uk-and-france-push-for-world-war-iii-full-transcript From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Apr 12 02:30:16 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 02:30:16 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?Chemmy_v_Dean/Justice_Frank_Newm?= =?windows-1252?q?an=3ARIP=3A_GENOCIDAL_CHIEF_ILLINIWAK=3A=93Chancellor=92?= =?windows-1252?q?s_Critical_Conversations=94_featuring_Erwin_Chemerinsky_?= =?windows-1252?q?and_Geoffrey_Stone_-_TUESDAY=2C_April_17?= Message-ID: Ode to My Colleague and Friend Frank Newman Way to go Berkeley Law! Deeming Yourselves above The Law Your Dean Frank Newman now crying in Heaven Berkeley Law can go to Hell! Accessories After The Fact to torture, murder and war crimes Law Prof Carl Schmitt would be proud of You All The Nazis had Their Law Schools too Replete with John Yoo Killer Koh’s poo RIP Berkeley Law Into the Ashcan of History You All go Good Riddance to Cal’s Nazi scheisse! Ode to My Colleague and Friend Frank Newman1 Way to go Berkeley Law! Deeming Yourselves above The Law Your Dean Frank Newman now crying in Heaven Berkeley Law can go to Hell! Accessories After The Fact to torture, murder and war crimes Law Prof Carl Schmitt would be proud of You All The Nazis had Their Law Schools too Replete with John Yoo Killer Koh’s poo RIP Berkeley Law Into the Ashcan of History You All go Good Riddance to Cal’s Nazi scheisse! Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 Chemmy is Dean of Berkeley Law School, where the Berkeley Law Faculty maliciously gave their most prestigious endowed Chair to John Yoo, Bush Jr.’s Torture Lawyer, War Criminal and Felon. Chemmy is knowingly permitting War Criminal Yoo to turn his Berkeley Law Students into Torturers, War Criminals and Felons just like Chemmy’s Endowed Professor Yoo. How dare Chemmy come in here and lecture us about Genocidal Chief Illiniwak! Stoner was Provost and Law Dean at the right-wing, racist, bigoted, reactionary, pro- apartheid University of Chicago that adamantly refused to Divest from the Criminal Apartheid Regime in South Africa and was proud of it, and also continues to practice Urban Apartheid against the surrounding African American Communities. How dare Stoner come in here and lecture us about Genocidal Chief Illiniwak! Fab, AB, UChicago, 1971 Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Turner, Carolyn Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:20 AM To: Law * College of Law Community > Subject: “Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 Event date is TUESDAY, April 17. “CHANCELLOR’S CRITICAL CONVERSATIONS” FEATURING ERWIN CHEMERINSKY AND GEOFFREY STONE Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12 – 1 p.m. Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, Colwell Playhouse 500 South Goodwin Avenue Urbana, Illinois The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign will host a conversation on the topic of free speech on April 17 in Colwell Playhouse at Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, 500 S. Goodwin Avenue in Urbana. Speakers will be Erwin Chemerinsky, the dean of the University of California, Berkeley School of Law; and Geoffrey Stone, a former law school dean and former provost at the University of Chicago. The conversation will be moderated by University of Illinois College of Law dean Vikram D. Amar. “Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” is a series of events designed to explore difficult issues and answer challenging questions together, as a university community. The goal of each event is to challenge beliefs, opinions and viewpoints through careful listening and the thoughtful expression of different voices, perspectives and ideas. Sponsored by the Office of the Chancellor. Event is free and open to the public. Registration is not required. Parking is available in the Krannert Center parking garage and at metered spaces surrounding the Center. For more information: https://news.illinois.edu/view/6367/634563 ________________________________ 1 Frank Newman was the Ralston Professor of International Law and Dean of Berkeley Law School and Justice on the California Supreme Court. R.I.P. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rwhelbig at gmail.com Thu Apr 12 12:21:24 2018 From: rwhelbig at gmail.com (Roger Helbig) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 05:21:24 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] OPCW Issues Report on Technical Assistance Requested by the United Kingdom Message-ID: For those of you who do not accept Francis A Boyle as the expert he claims to be - Christopher Charles Busby most certainly is not an expert nor is Douglas Lind Rokke. I have attempted to learn more about Rokke's actual training in detection and protecting against chemical weapons. He took similar course to the one I took. Mine was in 1973 and last 4 weeks and was for Air Force officers. He took the course for NCO's in the Army Reserve and may have even taught it to other reservists. I doubt he learned much about binary weapons of the type used in this attack. He has made many claims about things that facts from his own records have shown not to be true. Roger Helbig ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: OPCW Public Affairs Date: Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 4:25 AM Subject: OPCW Issues Report on Technical Assistance Requested by the United Kingdom [image: Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons] *For Immediate Release* OPCW Issues Report on Technical Assistance Requested by the United Kingdom THE HAGUE, Netherlands — 12 April 2018 — The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) transmitted yesterday to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (UK) the report of the OPCW’s mission to provide requested technical assistance in regard to the Salisbury incident on 4 March 2018. The results of the analysis by the OPCW designated laboratories of environmental and biomedical samples collected by the OPCW team confirm the findings of the United Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and severely injured three people. The UK’s delegation to the OPCW requested that the Technical Secretariat share the report with all States Parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) and to make the Executive Summary of the report publicly available. The Director-General, Ambassador Ahmet Üzümcü, thanked the four OPCW designated laboratories that supported the technical assistance request for their swift and thorough analysis. Background The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland requested technical assistance from the OPCW Technical Secretariat, under subparagraph 38(e) of Article VIII of the Chemical Weapons Convention, in relation to an incident in Salisbury on 4 March 2018 involving a toxic chemical—allegedly a nerve agent—and the poisoning and hospitalisation of three individuals. The OPCW team worked independently and is not involved in the national investigation by the UK authorities. No State Party was involved in the technical work carried out by the Technical Secretariat. OPCW designated laboratories are a lynchpin of the Organisation’s verification regime and its capacity to investigate allegations of the use of chemical weapons. They must be able to perform off-site analysis of chemical samples collected by OPCW inspectors from chemical production facilities, storage depots and other installations, or from the site of an alleged use of chemical weapons. These laboratories offer the necessary assurance to our States Parties that chemical analyses needed to make determinations or to clarify issues occurring during OPCW deployments are carried out competently, impartially, and with unambiguous results. As the implementing body for the Chemical Weapons Convention, the OPCW oversees the global endeavour to permanently and verifiably eliminate chemical weapons. Since the Convention’s entry into force in 1997 – and with its 192 States Parties – it is the most successful disarmament treaty eliminating an entire class of weapons of mass destruction. Over ninety-six per cent of all chemical weapon stockpiles declared by possessor States have been destroyed under OPCW verification. For its extensive efforts in eliminating chemical weapons, the OPCW received the 2013 Nobel Prize for Peace. More Information SUMMARY OF THE REPORT ON ACTIVITIES CARRIED OUT IN SUPPORT OF A REQUEST FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE BY THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND​ Update by the Director-General to the Executive Council at its Fifty-Seventh Session OPCW Fact Sheets Media Inquiries OPCW Public Affairs Johan de Wittlaan 32, 2517 JR The Hague, The Netherlands + 31 70 416 32 42 public.affairs at opcw.org www.opcw.org *For information only. Not an official record.* [image: Facebook] [image: Twitter] [image: YouTube] [image: LinkedIn] Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons Public Affairs Johan de Wittlaan 32 The Hague 2517 JR Netherlands Like Tweet Share Forward Unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Apr 12 12:40:38 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:40:38 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] OPCW Issues Report on Technical Assistance Requested by the United Kingdom In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, and Julia Skripal is now fully recovered and fit as a fiddle after having been hit by a military grade nerve agent allegedly 100 times more powerful than sarin. If you believe that, then you believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny. By the way Roger did you have fun a lot of fun at the Easter Egg for “military intelligence” assets and agents? Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Roger Helbig via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:21 AM To: Peace-discuss Subject: [Peace-discuss] OPCW Issues Report on Technical Assistance Requested by the United Kingdom For those of you who do not accept Francis A Boyle as the expert he claims to be - Christopher Charles Busby most certainly is not an expert nor is Douglas Lind Rokke. I have attempted to learn more about Rokke's actual training in detection and protecting against chemical weapons. He took similar course to the one I took. Mine was in 1973 and last 4 weeks and was for Air Force officers. He took the course for NCO's in the Army Reserve and may have even taught it to other reservists. I doubt he learned much about binary weapons of the type used in this attack. He has made many claims about things that facts from his own records have shown not to be true. Roger Helbig ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: OPCW Public Affairs > Date: Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 4:25 AM Subject: OPCW Issues Report on Technical Assistance Requested by the United Kingdom [Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons] For Immediate Release OPCW Issues Report on Technical Assistance Requested by the United Kingdom THE HAGUE, Netherlands — 12 April 2018 — The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) transmitted yesterday to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (UK) the report of the OPCW’s mission to provide requested technical assistance in regard to the Salisbury incident on 4 March 2018. The results of the analysis by the OPCW designated laboratories of environmental and biomedical samples collected by the OPCW team confirm the findings of the United Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and severely injured three people. The UK’s delegation to the OPCW requested that the Technical Secretariat share the report with all States Parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) and to make the Executive Summary of the report publicly available. The Director-General, Ambassador Ahmet Üzümcü, thanked the four OPCW designated laboratories that supported the technical assistance request for their swift and thorough analysis. Background The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland requested technical assistance from the OPCW Technical Secretariat, under subparagraph 38(e) of Article VIII of the Chemical Weapons Convention, in relation to an incident in Salisbury on 4 March 2018 involving a toxic chemical—allegedly a nerve agent—and the poisoning and hospitalisation of three individuals. The OPCW team worked independently and is not involved in the national investigation by the UK authorities. No State Party was involved in the technical work carried out by the Technical Secretariat. OPCW designated laboratories are a lynchpin of the Organisation’s verification regime and its capacity to investigate allegations of the use of chemical weapons. They must be able to perform off-site analysis of chemical samples collected by OPCW inspectors from chemical production facilities, storage depots and other installations, or from the site of an alleged use of chemical weapons. These laboratories offer the necessary assurance to our States Parties that chemical analyses needed to make determinations or to clarify issues occurring during OPCW deployments are carried out competently, impartially, and with unambiguous results. As the implementing body for the Chemical Weapons Convention, the OPCW oversees the global endeavour to permanently and verifiably eliminate chemical weapons. Since the Convention’s entry into force in 1997 – and with its 192 States Parties – it is the most successful disarmament treaty eliminating an entire class of weapons of mass destruction. Over ninety-six per cent of all chemical weapon stockpiles declared by possessor States have been destroyed under OPCW verification. For its extensive efforts in eliminating chemical weapons, the OPCW received the 2013 Nobel Prize for Peace. More Information SUMMARY OF THE REPORT ON ACTIVITIES CARRIED OUT IN SUPPORT OF A REQUEST FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE BY THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND​ Update by the Director-General to the Executive Council at its Fifty-Seventh Session OPCW Fact Sheets Media Inquiries OPCW Public Affairs Johan de Wittlaan 32, 2517 JR The Hague, The Netherlands + 31 70 416 32 42 public.affairs at opcw.org www.opcw.org For information only. Not an official record. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Apr 12 13:44:26 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 13:44:26 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] If you still listen to Democracy Now, please read below: Message-ID: [https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-1/c17.0.80.80/p80x80/69373_10151123077997572_882327138_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGnIHn7zsUpU__PDS1fIsHeFatzirdmSOrmViGrcqzzVOvZgdEicDyG9oPLc21qQreiVpcyo-ObRaLfrabfc2LQVxKhngfWGGeHQYLMPpPFvg&oh=702d8afb6e2cdac8ae992641d0a81667&oe=5B5E7D26] Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal April 9 at 11:04pm · I used to like and respect Amy Goodman, but she insists on perpetuating several pro-establishment positions, such as the corporate media's imperialist propaganda about Libya, Syria, Bolivia, Ecuador and Venezuela, the official narrative of 9/11, the DNC' paranoia about the Russians "hacking the elections", calling the Imperialist/Wahhabi plot in Syria a "civil war", while referring to the White Helmets (Al Qaeda) as "humanitarians". Amy surprisingly supported sanctions in Iraq where undreds of thousands of deaths and human suffering occurred because of these sanctions, including the deaths of approximately 500,000 Iraqi children. Furthermore, Democracy Now! sandwiches "fake news" between real news while running interference for imperialism because it is beholden to funding sources such as the Pacifica Foundation, the Ford, Carnegie, the Lannan Foundation and Patrick Lannan, the capitalist mogul who founded the organization, sat on the board of ITT corporation in the late 70s and early 80s. The ITT corporation was instrumental in the CIA-backed fascist coup that overthrew the democratically elected socialist Salvador Allende in 1973. So-called international non-profits such as the Ford Foundation have a long history of receiving enormous donations from the wealthiest individuals and corporations to achieve imperialism's objectives around the world. Foundations wield a form of "soft power" on behalf of US imperialism. Their main purpose is to provide a "civil society" infrastructure in targeted nations capable of fomenting conditions of regime change. In conclusion Democracy Now! Sandwiches some lies between truths and some truths between lies receiving funds from the oppressor to pretend to advocate for the oppressed Is not that special ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Apr 12 16:38:26 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 16:38:26 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Syyria US Russia In-Reply-To: <3F510942-601C-426D-87A9-1B5462216652@illinois.edu> References: <3F510942-601C-426D-87A9-1B5462216652@illinois.edu> Message-ID: > Mort, you’re right, it is excellent, > Unfortunately he is Russian, and Americans won’t listen to anyone who is Russian because “ hose commies gave us Donald Trump, when we should have had Hillary,” Hillary would have ensured Syria would be blown off the face of the earth by this time. Please forgive my dark sense of humor, I know it’s not funny. > On Apr 11, 2018, at 17:37, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss wrote: > > A serious, reasoned, rebuttal to the crap coming from Trump-USA, May-UK,Macron-France, and others. > > https://uslaboragainstwar.org/Article/79425/russian-envoy-to-the-un-us-uk-and-france-push-for-world-war-iii-full-transcript > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From rwhelbig at gmail.com Thu Apr 12 17:11:17 2018 From: rwhelbig at gmail.com (Roger Helbig) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:11:17 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: MEDIA ALERT: OPCW Deploys Fact-Finding Mission Team To Syria In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: OPCW Public Affairs Date: Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:53 AM Subject: MEDIA ALERT: OPCW Deploys Fact-Finding Mission Team To Syria [image: Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons] *MEDIA ALERT* MEDIA ALERT: OPCW Deploys Fact-Finding Mission Team To Syria In response to media queries, the Spokesperson for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) confirms that the OPCW Fact-Finding Mission (FFM) team is on its way to Syria and will start its work as of Saturday 14 April 2018. The Press Release on the FFM deployment to Syria (issued 10 April 2018) can be found here . Media Inquiries OPCW Public Affairs Johan de Wittlaan 32, 2517 JR The Hague, The Netherlands + 31 70 416 32 42 public.affairs at opcw.org www.opcw.org *For information only. Not an official record.* [image: Facebook] [image: Twitter] [image: YouTube] [image: LinkedIn] Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons Public Affairs Johan de Wittlaan 32 The Hague 2517 JR Netherlands Like Tweet Share Forward Unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbw292002 at gmail.com Thu Apr 12 18:13:36 2018 From: jbw292002 at gmail.com (John W.) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 13:13:36 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] If you still listen to Democracy Now, please read below: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So where does Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal recommend that we get news which is ideologically and financially pure, untainted by any "pro-establishment" positions or "imperialist" sources of revenue? And what are Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal 's bona fides? On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Karen Aram via Peace < peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > > Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal > > April 9 at 11:04pm > > · > > I used to like and respect Amy Goodman, but she insists on perpetuating > several pro-establishment positions, such as the corporate media's > imperialist propaganda about Libya, Syria, Bolivia, Ecuador and Venezuela, > the official narrative of 9/11, the DNC' paranoia about the Russians > "hacking the elections", calling the Imperialist/Wahhabi plot in Syria a > "civil war", while referring to the White Helmets (Al Qaeda) as > "humanitarians". > > Amy surprisingly supported sanctions in Iraq where undreds of thousands > of deaths and human suffering occurred because of these sanctions, > including the deaths of approximately 500,000 Iraqi children. > > Furthermore, Democracy Now! sandwiches "fake news" between real news while > running interference for imperialism because it is beholden to funding > sources such as the Pacifica Foundation, the Ford, Carnegie, the Lannan > Foundation and Patrick Lannan, the capitalist mogul who founded the > organization, sat on the board of ITT corporation in the late 70s and early > 80s. > > The ITT corporation was instrumental in the CIA-backed fascist coup that > overthrew the democratically elected socialist Salvador Allende in 1973. > > So-called international non-profits such as the Ford Foundation have a > long history of receiving enormous donations from the wealthiest > individuals and corporations to achieve imperialism's objectives around the > world. Foundations wield a form of "soft power" on behalf of US > imperialism. Their main purpose is to provide a "civil society" > infrastructure in targeted nations capable of fomenting conditions of > regime change. > > In conclusion Democracy Now! Sandwiches some lies between truths and some > truths between lies receiving funds from the oppressor to pretend to > advocate for the oppressed > > Is not that special ? > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Thu Apr 12 19:05:21 2018 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 14:05:21 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] If you still listen to Democracy Now, please read below: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <013201d3d291$35242b10$9f6c8130$@comcast.net> John, I don’t know who Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal is either, but I agree with everything he says and I have felt that way for several years now about Democracy Now, which I use to watch every day. I started to sour on them during the destruction of Libya and their HOERRIBLE coverage and analysis. And it kept getting worse over time. It is a real shame because they USE to be great. But, that is how this system is set-up. When you take corporate foundation grant money or have corporate advertisers, eventually they will control you. He who pays the piper calls the tune. If you want, I can privately e-mail you a list of the sources I refer to, which are non-corporate and most important have had a very reliable track record of accuracy over time. David Johnson From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of John W. via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:14 PM To: Karen Aram Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] If you still listen to Democracy Now, please read below: So where does Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal recommend that we get news which is ideologically and financially pure, untainted by any "pro-establishment" positions or "imperialist" sources of revenue? And what are Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal's bona fides? On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Karen Aram via Peace wrote: Image removed by sender. Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal April 9 at 11:04pm · I used to like and respect Amy Goodman, but she insists on perpetuating several pro-establishment positions, such as the corporate media's imperialist propaganda about Libya, Syria, Bolivia, Ecuador and Venezuela, the official narrative of 9/11, the DNC' paranoia about the Russians "hacking the elections", calling the Imperialist/Wahhabi plot in Syria a "civil war", while referring to the White Helmets (Al Qaeda) as "humanitarians". Amy surprisingly supported sanctions in Iraq where undreds of thousands of deaths and human suffering occurred because of these sanctions, including the deaths of approximately 500,000 Iraqi children. Furthermore, Democracy Now! sandwiches "fake news" between real news while running interference for imperialism because it is beholden to funding sources such as the Pacifica Foundation, the Ford, Carnegie, the Lannan Foundation and Patrick Lannan, the capitalist mogul who founded the organization, sat on the board of ITT corporation in the late 70s and early 80s. The ITT corporation was instrumental in the CIA-backed fascist coup that overthrew the democratically elected socialist Salvador Allende in 1973. So-called international non-profits such as the Ford Foundation have a long history of receiving enormous donations from the wealthiest individuals and corporations to achieve imperialism's objectives around the world. Foundations wield a form of "soft power" on behalf of US imperialism. Their main purpose is to provide a "civil society" infrastructure in targeted nations capable of fomenting conditions of regime change. In conclusion Democracy Now! Sandwiches some lies between truths and some truths between lies receiving funds from the oppressor to pretend to advocate for the oppressed Is not that special ? _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ~WRD000.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 823 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbw292002 at gmail.com Thu Apr 12 19:11:53 2018 From: jbw292002 at gmail.com (John W.) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 14:11:53 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] If you still listen to Democracy Now, please read below: In-Reply-To: <013201d3d291$35242b10$9f6c8130$@comcast.net> References: <013201d3d291$35242b10$9f6c8130$@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 2:05 PM, David Johnson wrote: John, > > > > I don’t know who *Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal* > > is either, but I agree with everything he says and I have felt that way for > several years now about Democracy Now, which I use to watch every day. > > I started to sour on them during the destruction of Libya and their > HORRIBLE coverage and analysis. And it kept getting worse over time. > > It is a real shame because they USED to be great. But, that is how this > system is set up. When you take corporate foundation grant money or have > corporate advertisers, eventually they will control you. He who pays the > piper calls the tune. > > > > If you want, I can privately e-mail you a list of the sources I refer to, > which are non-corporate and most importantly have had a very reliable track > record of accuracy over time. > > > > David Johnson > That would be fine, Dave, though I see no reason to keep it secret. I imagine we would ALL appreciate knowing. John > *From:* Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] *On > Behalf Of *John W. via Peace-discuss > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:14 PM > *To:* Karen Aram > *Cc:* Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] If you still listen to Democracy > Now, please read below: > > > > > > So where does *Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal* > > recommend that we get news which is ideologically and financially pure, > untainted by any "pro-establishment" positions or "imperialist" sources of > revenue? And what are *Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal* > 's > bona fides? > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Karen Aram via Peace < > peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > > > Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal > > > April 9 at 11:04pm > · > > > I used to like and respect Amy Goodman, but she insists on perpetuating > several pro-establishment positions, such as the corporate media's > imperialist propaganda about Libya, Syria, Bolivia, Ecuador and Venezuela, > the official narrative of 9/11, the DNC' paranoia about the Russians > "hacking the elections", calling the Imperialist/Wahhabi plot in Syria a > "civil war", while referring to the White Helmets (Al Qaeda) as > "humanitarians". > > Amy surprisingly supported sanctions in Iraq where undreds of thousands > of deaths and human suffering occurred because of these sanctions, > including the deaths of approximately 500,000 Iraqi children. > > Furthermore, Democracy Now! sandwiches "fake news" between real news while > running interference for imperialism because it is beholden to funding > sources such as the Pacifica Foundation, the Ford, Carnegie, the Lannan > Foundation and Patrick Lannan, the capitalist mogul who founded the > organization, sat on the board of ITT corporation in the late 70s and early > 80s. > > The ITT corporation was instrumental in the CIA-backed fascist coup that > overthrew the democratically elected socialist Salvador Allende in 1973. > > So-called international non-profits such as the Ford Foundation have a > long history of receiving enormous donations from the wealthiest > individuals and corporations to achieve imperialism's objectives around the > world. Foundations wield a form of "soft power" on behalf of US > imperialism. Their main purpose is to provide a "civil society" > infrastructure in targeted nations capable of fomenting conditions of > regime change. > > In conclusion Democracy Now! Sandwiches some lies between truths and some > truths between lies receiving funds from the oppressor to pretend to > advocate for the oppressed > > Is not that special ? > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:38 PM To: Peace Discuss Subject: [Peace-discuss] Syyria US Russia A serious, reasoned, rebuttal to the crap coming from Trump-USA, May-UK,Macron-France, and others. https://uslaboragainstwar.org/Article/79425/russian-envoy-to-the-un-us-uk-and-france-push-for-world-war-iii-full-transcript _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Apr 12 21:37:11 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 21:37:11 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: WMNF | International Law Expert Says US Attack on Syria Would Violate US Constitution and UN Charter - WMNF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 4:35 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: WMNF | International Law Expert Says US Attack on Syria Would Violate US Constitution and UN Charter - WMNF [https://s3.amazonaws.com/wmnf/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Francis-Boyle.jpg] International Law Expert Says US Attack on Syria Would Violate US Constitution and UN Charter - WMNF Radioactivity 4 12 18 Welcome to Radioactivity. I’m Rob Lorei. Yesterday President Trump suggested that an attack on Syria was imminent, after a reported chemical weapons attack on civilians in that country last week. Russia warned that a US attack on Syrian could lead to a clash between the US and Russia. Russian military forces... Read more » https://www.wmnf.org/international-law-expert-says-us-attack-on-syria-would-violate-us-constitution-and-un-charter/ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Apr 12 21:47:56 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 21:47:56 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] If you still listen to Democracy Now, please read below: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The same place the rest of us get it, RT.com, WSWS.ORG, The Real News, Counterpunch, Sputnik, and last but not least BOOKs. On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:13, John W. > wrote: So where does Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal recommend that we get news which is ideologically and financially pure, untainted by any "pro-establishment" positions or "imperialist" sources of revenue? And what are Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal's bona fides? On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Karen Aram via Peace > wrote: [https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-1/c17.0.80.80/p80x80/69373_10151123077997572_882327138_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGnIHn7zsUpU__PDS1fIsHeFatzirdmSOrmViGrcqzzVOvZgdEicDyG9oPLc21qQreiVpcyo-ObRaLfrabfc2LQVxKhngfWGGeHQYLMPpPFvg&oh=702d8afb6e2cdac8ae992641d0a81667&oe=5B5E7D26] Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal April 9 at 11:04pm · I used to like and respect Amy Goodman, but she insists on perpetuating several pro-establishment positions, such as the corporate media's imperialist propaganda about Libya, Syria, Bolivia, Ecuador and Venezuela, the official narrative of 9/11, the DNC' paranoia about the Russians "hacking the elections", calling the Imperialist/Wahhabi plot in Syria a "civil war", while referring to the White Helmets (Al Qaeda) as "humanitarians". Amy surprisingly supported sanctions in Iraq where undreds of thousands of deaths and human suffering occurred because of these sanctions, including the deaths of approximately 500,000 Iraqi children. Furthermore, Democracy Now! sandwiches "fake news" between real news while running interference for imperialism because it is beholden to funding sources such as the Pacifica Foundation, the Ford, Carnegie, the Lannan Foundation and Patrick Lannan, the capitalist mogul who founded the organization, sat on the board of ITT corporation in the late 70s and early 80s. The ITT corporation was instrumental in the CIA-backed fascist coup that overthrew the democratically elected socialist Salvador Allende in 1973. So-called international non-profits such as the Ford Foundation have a long history of receiving enormous donations from the wealthiest individuals and corporations to achieve imperialism's objectives around the world. Foundations wield a form of "soft power" on behalf of US imperialism. Their main purpose is to provide a "civil society" infrastructure in targeted nations capable of fomenting conditions of regime change. In conclusion Democracy Now! Sandwiches some lies between truths and some truths between lies receiving funds from the oppressor to pretend to advocate for the oppressed Is not that special ? _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Apr 12 22:36:05 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:36:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] If you still listen to Democracy Now, please read below: In-Reply-To: <013201d3d291$35242b10$9f6c8130$@comcast.net> References: <013201d3d291$35242b10$9f6c8130$@comcast.net> Message-ID: David Well said, and a good idea, we should provide sources on the Peace List, oops, Peace Discuss List, for those who might like to “research” the truth, not just allow mainstream propaganda, push us into war. Yesterday Glen Greenwald was interviewed on DN, he was saying a lot of good things about why we shouldn’t go to war, but he began his statement by saying that Assad was using chemical weapons. A journalist, no less, a “formerly” credible journalist. There is not only no evidence that Assad gassed his people, neither recently or in the past when he was accused. And, it makes no sense when he’s winning the war, to do something he knows full well will give the US an excuse to strike and destroy. Glen Greenwald, gave the American people, the excuse to turn a blind eye from that which the USG is planning. On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:05, David Johnson > wrote: John, I don’t know who Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal is either, but I agree with everything he says and I have felt that way for several years now about Democracy Now, which I use to watch every day. I started to sour on them during the destruction of Libya and their HOERRIBLE coverage and analysis. And it kept getting worse over time. It is a real shame because they USE to be great. But, that is how this system is set-up. When you take corporate foundation grant money or have corporate advertisers, eventually they will control you. He who pays the piper calls the tune. If you want, I can privately e-mail you a list of the sources I refer to, which are non-corporate and most important have had a very reliable track record of accuracy over time. David Johnson From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of John W. via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:14 PM To: Karen Aram Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] If you still listen to Democracy Now, please read below: So where does Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal recommend that we get news which is ideologically and financially pure, untainted by any "pro-establishment" positions or "imperialist" sources of revenue? And what are Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal's bona fides? On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Karen Aram via Peace > wrote: <~WRD000.jpg> Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal April 9 at 11:04pm · I used to like and respect Amy Goodman, but she insists on perpetuating several pro-establishment positions, such as the corporate media's imperialist propaganda about Libya, Syria, Bolivia, Ecuador and Venezuela, the official narrative of 9/11, the DNC' paranoia about the Russians "hacking the elections", calling the Imperialist/Wahhabi plot in Syria a "civil war", while referring to the White Helmets (Al Qaeda) as "humanitarians". Amy surprisingly supported sanctions in Iraq where undreds of thousands of deaths and human suffering occurred because of these sanctions, including the deaths of approximately 500,000 Iraqi children. Furthermore, Democracy Now! sandwiches "fake news" between real news while running interference for imperialism because it is beholden to funding sources such as the Pacifica Foundation, the Ford, Carnegie, the Lannan Foundation and Patrick Lannan, the capitalist mogul who founded the organization, sat on the board of ITT corporation in the late 70s and early 80s. The ITT corporation was instrumental in the CIA-backed fascist coup that overthrew the democratically elected socialist Salvador Allende in 1973. So-called international non-profits such as the Ford Foundation have a long history of receiving enormous donations from the wealthiest individuals and corporations to achieve imperialism's objectives around the world. Foundations wield a form of "soft power" on behalf of US imperialism. Their main purpose is to provide a "civil society" infrastructure in targeted nations capable of fomenting conditions of regime change. In conclusion Democracy Now! 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URL: From brussel at illinois.edu Fri Apr 13 00:54:43 2018 From: brussel at illinois.edu (Brussel, Morton K) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 00:54:43 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] If you still listen to Democracy Now, please read below: In-Reply-To: References: <013201d3d291$35242b10$9f6c8130$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8498DB75-971C-4585-9821-5FE3215725BC@illinois.edu> Yesterday Glen Greenwald was interviewed on DN, he was saying a lot of good things about why we shouldn’t go to war, but he began his statement by saying that Assad was using chemical weapons. A journalist, no less, a “formerly” credible journalist. Yes, a striking aberration(?). On Apr 12, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: David Well said, and a good idea, we should provide sources on the Peace List, oops, Peace Discuss List, for those who might like to “research” the truth, not just allow mainstream propaganda, push us into war. Yesterday Glen Greenwald was interviewed on DN, he was saying a lot of good things about why we shouldn’t go to war, but he began his statement by saying that Assad was using chemical weapons. A journalist, no less, a “formerly” credible journalist. There is not only no evidence that Assad gassed his people, neither recently or in the past when he was accused. And, it makes no sense when he’s winning the war, to do something he knows full well will give the US an excuse to strike and destroy. Glen Greenwald, gave the American people, the excuse to turn a blind eye from that which the USG is planning. On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:05, David Johnson > wrote: John, I don’t know who Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal is either, but I agree with everything he says and I have felt that way for several years now about Democracy Now, which I use to watch every day. I started to sour on them during the destruction of Libya and their HOERRIBLE coverage and analysis. And it kept getting worse over time. It is a real shame because they USE to be great. But, that is how this system is set-up. When you take corporate foundation grant money or have corporate advertisers, eventually they will control you. He who pays the piper calls the tune. If you want, I can privately e-mail you a list of the sources I refer to, which are non-corporate and most important have had a very reliable track record of accuracy over time. David Johnson From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of John W. via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:14 PM To: Karen Aram Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] If you still listen to Democracy Now, please read below: So where does Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal recommend that we get news which is ideologically and financially pure, untainted by any "pro-establishment" positions or "imperialist" sources of revenue? And what are Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal's bona fides? On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Karen Aram via Peace > wrote: <~WRD000.jpg> Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal April 9 at 11:04pm · I used to like and respect Amy Goodman, but she insists on perpetuating several pro-establishment positions, such as the corporate media's imperialist propaganda about Libya, Syria, Bolivia, Ecuador and Venezuela, the official narrative of 9/11, the DNC' paranoia about the Russians "hacking the elections", calling the Imperialist/Wahhabi plot in Syria a "civil war", while referring to the White Helmets (Al Qaeda) as "humanitarians". Amy surprisingly supported sanctions in Iraq where undreds of thousands of deaths and human suffering occurred because of these sanctions, including the deaths of approximately 500,000 Iraqi children. Furthermore, Democracy Now! sandwiches "fake news" between real news while running interference for imperialism because it is beholden to funding sources such as the Pacifica Foundation, the Ford, Carnegie, the Lannan Foundation and Patrick Lannan, the capitalist mogul who founded the organization, sat on the board of ITT corporation in the late 70s and early 80s. The ITT corporation was instrumental in the CIA-backed fascist coup that overthrew the democratically elected socialist Salvador Allende in 1973. So-called international non-profits such as the Ford Foundation have a long history of receiving enormous donations from the wealthiest individuals and corporations to achieve imperialism's objectives around the world. Foundations wield a form of "soft power" on behalf of US imperialism. Their main purpose is to provide a "civil society" infrastructure in targeted nations capable of fomenting conditions of regime change. In conclusion Democracy Now! Sandwiches some lies between truths and some truths between lies receiving funds from the oppressor to pretend to advocate for the oppressed Is not that special ? _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Fri Apr 13 03:14:43 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 20:14:43 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] If you still listen to Democracy Now, please read below: In-Reply-To: <8498DB75-971C-4585-9821-5FE3215725BC@illinois.edu> References: <013201d3d291$35242b10$9f6c8130$@comcast.net> <8498DB75-971C-4585-9821-5FE3215725BC@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <11515EE4-141B-4E61-9A96-97B3DB2532B1@gmail.com> It may be true - I don’t think it is - but the point is, whether it’s true or not, the US should not attack Syria. Popular opposition should counter the War Party. If Syria burns, there should be no light. —CGE > On Apr 12, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Yesterday Glen Greenwald was interviewed on DN, he was saying a lot of good things about why we shouldn’t go to war, but he began his statement by saying that Assad was using chemical weapons. A journalist, no less, a “formerly” credible journalist. > > Yes, a striking aberration(?). > >> On Apr 12, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: >> >> David >> >> Well said, and a good idea, we should provide sources on the Peace List, oops, Peace Discuss List, for those who might like to “research” the truth, not just allow mainstream propaganda, push us into war. >> >> Yesterday Glen Greenwald was interviewed on DN, he was saying a lot of good things about why we shouldn’t go to war, but he began his statement by saying that Assad was using chemical weapons. A journalist, no less, a “formerly” credible journalist. >> >> There is not only no evidence that Assad gassed his people, neither recently or in the past when he was accused. And, it makes no sense when he’s winning the war, to do something he knows full well will give the US an excuse to strike and destroy. >> >> Glen Greenwald, gave the American people, the excuse to turn a blind eye from that which the USG is planning. >> >>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:05, David Johnson > wrote: >>> >>> John, >>> >>> I don’t know who Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal is either, but I agree with everything he says and I have felt that way for several years now about Democracy Now, which I use to watch every day. >>> I started to sour on them during the destruction of Libya and their HOERRIBLE coverage and analysis. And it kept getting worse over time. >>> It is a real shame because they USE to be great. But, that is how this system is set-up. When you take corporate foundation grant money or have corporate advertisers, eventually they will control you. He who pays the piper calls the tune. >>> >>> If you want, I can privately e-mail you a list of the sources I refer to, which are non-corporate and most important have had a very reliable track record of accuracy over time. >>> >>> David Johnson >>> >>> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net ] On Behalf Of John W. via Peace-discuss >>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:14 PM >>> To: Karen Aram >>> Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net ) >>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] If you still listen to Democracy Now, please read below: >>> >>> >>> So where does Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal recommend that we get news which is ideologically and financially pure, untainted by any "pro-establishment" positions or "imperialist" sources of revenue? And what are Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal 's bona fides? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Karen Aram via Peace > wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <~WRD000.jpg> >>>> >>>> Raúl Fernández-Berriozábal >>>> April 9 at 11:04pm · >>>> I used to like and respect Amy Goodman, but she insists on perpetuating several pro-establishment positions, such as the corporate media's imperialist propaganda about Libya, Syria, Bolivia, Ecuador and Venezuela, the official narrative of 9/11, the DNC' paranoia about the Russians "hacking the elections", calling the Imperialist/Wahhabi plot in Syria a "civil war", while referring to the White Helmets (Al Qaeda) as "humanitarians". >>>> Amy surprisingly supported sanctions in Iraq where undreds of thousands of deaths and human suffering occurred because of these sanctions, including the deaths of approximately 500,000 Iraqi children. >>>> Furthermore, Democracy Now! sandwiches "fake news" between real news while running interference for imperialism because it is beholden to funding sources such as the Pacifica Foundation, the Ford, Carnegie, the Lannan Foundation and Patrick Lannan, the capitalist mogul who founded the organization, sat on the board of ITT corporation in the late 70s and early 80s. >>>> The ITT corporation was instrumental in the CIA-backed fascist coup that overthrew the democratically elected socialist Salvador Allende in 1973. >>>> So-called international non-profits such as the Ford Foundation have a long history of receiving enormous donations from the wealthiest individuals and corporations to achieve imperialism's objectives around the world. Foundations wield a form of "soft power" on behalf of US imperialism. Their main purpose is to provide a "civil society" infrastructure in targeted nations capable of fomenting conditions of regime change. >>>> In conclusion Democracy Now! 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Apr 13 11:56:57 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:56:57 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE flyer for Saturdays, monthly demonstration References: Message-ID: AWARE Saturday April 13th, Downtown Champaign, corner of Neil and Church Streets 2:00 - 4:00pm Flyer constructed by Carl Estabrook Based upon “Just Foreign Policy” text . > > =============================================================== > TELL YOUR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES: > ASSERT YOUR WAR POWERS BEFORE TRUMP STRIKES SYRIA > > Tell your Rep. to sign the Lofgren-Amash letter to stop an unconstitutional strike on Syria. > > The New York Times is reporting that Trump has warned Russia that U.S. missiles “will be coming” to Syria. > > But Senator Tim Kaine [D-VA] and Senator Mike Lee [R-UT] and the Congressional Progressive Caucus have a very different idea. > Under the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution, Congress, not the President, decides when to use military force. > > The NYT reports: 'Senator Tim Kaine, Democrat of Virginia, said Mr. Trump needed permission from Congress before action. > “He’s a president, not a king, and Congress needs to quit giving him a blank check to wage war against anyone, anywhere,” Mr. Kaine said. > “If he strikes Syria without our approval, what will stop him from bombing North Korea or Iran?”’ > > The NYT’s Max Fisher justly mocked Washington’s 'cult of limited strikes’: "They accomplish nothing but unnecessary killing. > But Washington loves them anyway, because past experience doesn’t matter. When it comes to pointless uses of military force, > Washington culture is denialist: repeated failure doesn’t cause learning." > > Democrat or Republican, Congressional Representatives have an easy way to assert their war powers before Trump strikes Syria: > they can sign the bipartisan Lofgren-Amash letter to Trump, telling him to come to Congress for authorization before attacking Syria. > That’s what stopped unconstitutional military action in Syria in August 2013 – two hundred Democratic and Republican House members > signing letters to the President, saying under the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution, you have to come to us for authorization before striking Syria. > > Call CONGRESSMAN RODNEY DAVIS now at (202) 225-2371. When you reach a staffer or leave a message, you can say, > > “I urge you to defend the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution. > Sign the bipartisan Lofgren-Amash letter insisting that President Trump > get Congressional authorization before striking Syria.” > > + + + > > [Thanks to 'Just Foreign Policy' for the text above. This flyer is circulated by AWARE, a local peace group.] > > ANTI-WAR ANTI-RACISM EFFORT - on Facebook at > ~ U.S. troops & weapons out of the Mideast ~ Medicare for all ~ Universal basic income ~ > > Our representatives in Congress from this area - and their email addresses - are as follows: > Representative Rodney Davis: > Senator Tammy Duckworth: > Senator Dick Durbin: > =============================================================== >> >> >>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:46 AM, Karen Aram wrote: >>> >>> Carl >>> >>> I still have the generic flyers you created, for the panel discussion the Democrats put on at the IMC last month. Give the weather conditions this Saturday, handing out flyers maybe difficult, as pointed out by David. >>> >>> I suggest you not bother creating anything new for this weekend and use these instead. >>> >>> The title is “Our Government is Risking Nuclear War,” and the information related to the history of US wars is quite good, and appropriate for these times. >>> >>> I will bring them, unless you say otherwise. >> > From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Apr 13 16:23:04 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:23:04 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Justice Dept. Can't Tie Police Funding to Help on Immigration, Judge Rules Message-ID: U.S. Justice Dept. Can’t Tie Police Funding to Help on Immigration, Judge Rules By JENNIFER MEDINAAPRIL 12, 2018 Continue reading the main storyShare This Page * Share * Tweet * Email * More * Save 13 Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/04/12/us/immig-funding-a/merlin_134713554_85b4808d-8e0b-4ed4-acf4-0e41cc5124fe-master768.jpg] A federal judge in Los Angeles ruled that the Justice Department cannot require that local police departments help immigration agents in order to receive federal funding.CreditCharles Reed/U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, via Associated Press LOS ANGELES — The Justice Department cannot require that local police departments help immigration agents in order to receive federal funding, a federal judge has ruled. The ruling is a significant victory for local governments that have opposed the Trump administration’s stance on immigration and vowed to stay out of enforcement efforts. United States District Judge Manuel Real in Los Angeles issued a permanent, national injunction against the federal funding rules, giving the city an important win in a long-running legal battle with Attorney General Jeff Sessions and the White House. The ruling is “a complete victory,” Mike Feuer, the Los Angeles city attorney, said Thursday. “This is yet another dagger in the heart of the administration’s efforts to use federal funds as a weapon to make local jurisdictions complicit in its civil immigration enforcement policies.” A Justice Department spokesman, Devin M. O’Malley, suggested an appeal was likely. The federal government is legally entitled to give priority in its grant funding to local governments “that prioritize the safety of their communities and their law enforcement officers when they promise to cooperate with federal immigration authorities seeking information about illegal aliens who have committed crimes,” he said in a statement. “Unfortunately,” he added, “the court not only rejected this common-sense conclusion, but it chose to issue a permanent nationwide injunction that is overbroad and inconsistent with the rule of law. We look forward to continuing the strong defense of our position.” Continue reading the main story RELATED COVERAGE * [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/08/15/us/15sanctuary1/15sanctuary1-thumbStandard.jpg] California Sues Justice Dept. Over Funding for Sanctuary Cities AUG. 14, 2017 * [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/03/14/us/14dc-trump-print/14dc-trump-print-thumbStandard-v2.jpg] In California, Trump Attacks Jerry Brown and ‘Sanctuary Policies’ MARCH 13, 2018 RECENT COMMENTS Mike ryan 22 minutes ago If the Feds have laws to enforce, hire the staff. Unfair to place unfounded mandates out there that burden local communities. M.S. Shackley 22 minutes ago Now let's see federal judges go after Pruitt and Zinke for overreach. Talbot 29 minutes ago What about all the HUD funding that's being withheld over fair housing? * SEE ALL COMMENTS * WRITE A COMMENT ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story The ruling handed down Wednesday came in one of several lawsuitsthat state and city officials in California have filed against the federal government arguing that it has overreached in trying to force local officers to help with immigration enforcement. “The Trump administration cannot manipulate federal grant fund requirements to pressure states, counties or municipalities to enforce federal immigration laws,” Xavier Becerra, California’s attorney general, said last year when the state filed a lawsuit against the administration for denying funding to so-called sanctuary cities. Last month, a federal district judge declined to issue a preliminary injunction against the federal government in that case, saying that the courts in other parts of the country had reached different conclusions and that “issues in this case will benefit from further development.” Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/04/13/us/13immig-funding-2/merlin_47898467_02da0a7b-99e4-4b07-90da-2c0772f4e3a1-master675.jpg] Los Angeles has received millions of dollars under a federal program to promote community policing.CreditMonica Almeida/The New York Times After that ruling, the Trump administration filed its own lawsuit against California over its own “sanctuary state” law, which prevents the police in many cases from holding people at the request of federal immigration agents, and limits the sharing of information about the release of some county jail inmates who are in the country illegally. In its suit, the federal government argues that the law makes it impossible for immigration officers to do their jobs. A hearing in the case is scheduled for late June. Los Angeles has for years received millions of dollars under the federal Community Oriented Policing Services program, which is meant to promote community policing. The city police department has used the money for its Community Safety Partnership, which allows police officers to spend intensive time in neighborhoods, leading mentoring programs or coaching sports teams. The police say the program in the neighborhood of Watts has helped bring about a 50 percent reduction in violent crime and arrests. In 2016, the city used the roughly $3 million it received to hire about 25 officers. City officials asked for the same amount of money in 2017, hoping to use it to hire more officers in a South Los Angeles neighborhood where violence had spiked. Newsletter Sign Up Continue reading the main story California Today The news and stories that matter to Californians (and anyone else interested in the state), delivered weekday mornings. Sign Up You agree to receive occasional updates and special offers for The New York Times's products and services. * SEE SAMPLE * PRIVACY POLICY * OPT OUT OR CONTACT US ANYTIME But police departments around the country seeking a share of the $98 million pool of grant money last year were asked to demonstrate that they have a policy of alerting immigration agents before releasing inmates and giving immigration agents access to jails in order to conduct inmate interviews and review files. Departments were also asked to give federal authorities 48-hours notice before the release of any immigrants. The Los Angeles Police Deparment did not do so, and was awarded no money. The Justice Department said the vast majority of those departments that received grants had signaled a “willingness to cooperate with federal immigration authorities.” The city’s lawsuit argued that local governments had “an untenable choice: Commit to participating in federal civil immigration investigation and enforcement efforts, or sacrifice funds for public safety and community policing.” In the ruling, Judge Real said that the funding rules violated the notion of separation of powers enshrined in the Constitution and improperly tried to force local police officers to take on immigration enforcement, which legally is the responsibility of the federal government. The department’s action “upset the constitutional balance between state and federal power by requiring state and local law enforcement to partner with federal authorities,” he wrote. He added that Congress, not the executive branch, has the authority to control government spending. 13COMMENTS Several other cities, including Philadelphia and Chicago, have also filed lawsuits against the administration’s attempt to tie federal funding to immigration enforcement, arguing that the government is overstepping its authority by creating new rules on grants without approval from Congress. Local officials have also argued that forcing local police officers to cooperate on immigration enforcement could impair their ability to win cooperation from immigrants, who may fear being at risk of deportation by speaking to local law enforcement officers. Placing immigration enforcement requirements on grants meant to improve community policing, Mr. Feuer said, is “ironic — and at worst, very dangerous.” -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Apr 13 16:33:17 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:33:17 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Justice Dept. Can't Tie Police Funding to Help on Immigration, Judge Rules In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah, exactly the Legal Advice I gave to the Urbana City Council in my entire evening appearance before it on the Original Urbana Sanctuary Resolution under a Public Nazi Death Threat on February 10, 1986 (See my Defending Civil Resistance under International Law pp. 189-197) and then in my Three Appearances before them again in the Fall of 2016 culminating in their Adoption of their new and updated Sanctuary Resolution of December 19, 2016, and directly refuting the public position taken by the Yale Law Mafia Dean of Our Killer Koh Law School Iceman Amar. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 11:23 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Justice Dept. Can't Tie Police Funding to Help on Immigration, Judge Rules U.S. Justice Dept. Can’t Tie Police Funding to Help on Immigration, Judge Rules By JENNIFER MEDINAAPRIL 12, 2018 Continue reading the main storyShare This Page · Share · Tweet · Email · More · Save 13 Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/04/12/us/immig-funding-a/merlin_134713554_85b4808d-8e0b-4ed4-acf4-0e41cc5124fe-master768.jpg] A federal judge in Los Angeles ruled that the Justice Department cannot require that local police departments help immigration agents in order to receive federal funding.CreditCharles Reed/U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, via Associated Press LOS ANGELES — The Justice Department cannot require that local police departments help immigration agents in order to receive federal funding, a federal judge has ruled. The ruling is a significant victory for local governments that have opposed the Trump administration’s stance on immigration and vowed to stay out of enforcement efforts. United States District Judge Manuel Real in Los Angeles issued a permanent, national injunction against the federal funding rules, giving the city an important win in a long-running legal battle with Attorney General Jeff Sessions and the White House. The ruling is “a complete victory,” Mike Feuer, the Los Angeles city attorney, said Thursday. “This is yet another dagger in the heart of the administration’s efforts to use federal funds as a weapon to make local jurisdictions complicit in its civil immigration enforcement policies.” A Justice Department spokesman, Devin M. O’Malley, suggested an appeal was likely. The federal government is legally entitled to give priority in its grant funding to local governments “that prioritize the safety of their communities and their law enforcement officers when they promise to cooperate with federal immigration authorities seeking information about illegal aliens who have committed crimes,” he said in a statement. “Unfortunately,” he added, “the court not only rejected this common-sense conclusion, but it chose to issue a permanent nationwide injunction that is overbroad and inconsistent with the rule of law. We look forward to continuing the strong defense of our position.” Continue reading the main story RELATED COVERAGE · [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/08/15/us/15sanctuary1/15sanctuary1-thumbStandard.jpg] California Sues Justice Dept. Over Funding for Sanctuary Cities AUG. 14, 2017 · [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/03/14/us/14dc-trump-print/14dc-trump-print-thumbStandard-v2.jpg] In California, Trump Attacks Jerry Brown and ‘Sanctuary Policies’ MARCH 13, 2018 RECENT COMMENTS Mike ryan 22 minutes ago If the Feds have laws to enforce, hire the staff. Unfair to place unfounded mandates out there that burden local communities. M.S. Shackley 22 minutes ago Now let's see federal judges go after Pruitt and Zinke for overreach. Talbot 29 minutes ago What about all the HUD funding that's being withheld over fair housing? · SEE ALL COMMENTS · WRITE A COMMENT ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story The ruling handed down Wednesday came in one of several lawsuitsthat state and city officials in California have filed against the federal government arguing that it has overreached in trying to force local officers to help with immigration enforcement. “The Trump administration cannot manipulate federal grant fund requirements to pressure states, counties or municipalities to enforce federal immigration laws,” Xavier Becerra, California’s attorney general, said last year when the state filed a lawsuit against the administration for denying funding to so-called sanctuary cities. Last month, a federal district judge declined to issue a preliminary injunction against the federal government in that case, saying that the courts in other parts of the country had reached different conclusions and that “issues in this case will benefit from further development.” Photo [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/04/13/us/13immig-funding-2/merlin_47898467_02da0a7b-99e4-4b07-90da-2c0772f4e3a1-master675.jpg] Los Angeles has received millions of dollars under a federal program to promote community policing.CreditMonica Almeida/The New York Times After that ruling, the Trump administration filed its own lawsuit against California over its own “sanctuary state” law, which prevents the police in many cases from holding people at the request of federal immigration agents, and limits the sharing of information about the release of some county jail inmates who are in the country illegally. In its suit, the federal government argues that the law makes it impossible for immigration officers to do their jobs. A hearing in the case is scheduled for late June. Los Angeles has for years received millions of dollars under the federal Community Oriented Policing Services program, which is meant to promote community policing. The city police department has used the money for its Community Safety Partnership, which allows police officers to spend intensive time in neighborhoods, leading mentoring programs or coaching sports teams. The police say the program in the neighborhood of Watts has helped bring about a 50 percent reduction in violent crime and arrests. In 2016, the city used the roughly $3 million it received to hire about 25 officers. City officials asked for the same amount of money in 2017, hoping to use it to hire more officers in a South Los Angeles neighborhood where violence had spiked. Newsletter Sign Up Continue reading the main story California Today The news and stories that matter to Californians (and anyone else interested in the state), delivered weekday mornings. Sign Up [ ] You agree to receive occasional updates and special offers for The New York Times's products and services. · SEE SAMPLE · PRIVACY POLICY · OPT OUT OR CONTACT US ANYTIME But police departments around the country seeking a share of the $98 million pool of grant money last year were asked to demonstrate that they have a policy of alerting immigration agents before releasing inmates and giving immigration agents access to jails in order to conduct inmate interviews and review files. Departments were also asked to give federal authorities 48-hours notice before the release of any immigrants. The Los Angeles Police Deparment did not do so, and was awarded no money. The Justice Department said the vast majority of those departments that received grants had signaled a “willingness to cooperate with federal immigration authorities.” The city’s lawsuit argued that local governments had “an untenable choice: Commit to participating in federal civil immigration investigation and enforcement efforts, or sacrifice funds for public safety and community policing.” In the ruling, Judge Real said that the funding rules violated the notion of separation of powers enshrined in the Constitution and improperly tried to force local police officers to take on immigration enforcement, which legally is the responsibility of the federal government. The department’s action “upset the constitutional balance between state and federal power by requiring state and local law enforcement to partner with federal authorities,” he wrote. He added that Congress, not the executive branch, has the authority to control government spending. 13COMMENTS Several other cities, including Philadelphia and Chicago, have also filed lawsuits against the administration’s attempt to tie federal funding to immigration enforcement, arguing that the government is overstepping its authority by creating new rules on grants without approval from Congress. Local officials have also argued that forcing local police officers to cooperate on immigration enforcement could impair their ability to win cooperation from immigrants, who may fear being at risk of deportation by speaking to local law enforcement officers. Placing immigration enforcement requirements on grants meant to improve community policing, Mr. Feuer said, is “ironic — and at worst, very dangerous.” -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 3:00 PM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" Yeah, while working for Bush Jr. Comey justified and carried out almost every hideous atrocity Bush Jr et al wanted him to inflict on international law, human rights, the United States Constitution, civil rights, civil liberties and completely innocent human beings--- especially against Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color. Just a Legal Hatchetman! And Chomsky has savaged Niebuhr as nothing more than the Chaplain for US Imperial Apparatchiks in order to salve their Consciences for all the dirty work they have done around the world for the American Empire. Ditto for Obama. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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And with the Iran nuclear deal still up in the air, U.S. diplomacy is crippled by the vacancy at the top of the State Department. CQ foreign policy editor Megan Scully and defense reporter John M. Donnelly explain. > > Read more > > > > > > > > Advertise with Us > > > An Economist Group Business. Copyright 2018 © CQ Roll Call. All rights reserved. Privacy | Safely unsubscribe now or change your subscription preferences. > > CQ Roll Call 1625 Eye St. NW, Suite 200 Washington DC 20006 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naiman at justforeignpolicy.org Fri Apr 13 21:56:14 2018 From: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (Robert Naiman) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:56:14 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Podcast: Pentagon Reluctant to Enter Syrian War In-Reply-To: <6B6ABF3D-FA6B-4054-9FEA-B2DD1E5924F7@illinois.edu> References: <6B6ABF3D-FA6B-4054-9FEA-B2DD1E5924F7@illinois.edu> Message-ID: https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-seeks-large-strike-in-syr ia-mattis-urges-caution-1523651589 Trump Seeks Large Strike in Syria; Mattis Urges Caution President and defense secretary differ on response to suspected Syrian chemical attack By Peter Nicholas, Gordon Lubold and Dion Nissenbaum April 13, 2018 4:33 p.m. ET WASHINGTON—President Donald Trump is prodding his military advisers to agree to a more sweeping retaliatory strike in Syria than they consider prudent, and is unhappy with the more limited options they have presented to him so far, White House and other administration officials said. In meetings with Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis, Mr. Trump has been pushing for an attack that not only would punish the Syrian regime but also exact a price from two of its international patrons, Russia and Iran, a White House official said. “He wants Mattis to push the limits a little bit more,” the official said. Mr. Mattis has resisted, worried that the administration lacks a broader strategy in Syria and that military strikes could trigger a dangerous clash with Russia and Iran, U.S. officials said. Over the past two days, the Pentagon has had two opportunities to launch attacks against Syria in reprisal for a suspected chemical weapons attack, but Mr. Mattis halted them, according to U.S. and defense officials. [image: U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, left, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford preparing on Thursday to testify before the House Armed Services Committee] U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, left, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford preparing on Thursday to testify before the House Armed Services Committee PHOTO:CHIP SOMODEVILLA/GETTY IMAGES The military had scheduled potential windows for the strikes, including one Thursday night, the U.S. and defense officials said. Mr. Mattis canceled them out of concerns that anything other than a “show strike” risked broader escalation with the Russians in particular, these defense officials said. As a complex battleground filled with competing militias and foreign forces, Syria poses the toughest test yet of Mr. Trump as commander-in-chief. One year ago, he ordered a missile strike against an airfield in Syria in response to a chemical attack—a one-off event carried out by the U.S. alone. This time, Mr. Trump is assembling an international coalition that presumably would take part in a military operation, a scenario that officials and experts have said requires careful choreography. He also faces a Pentagon leadership skeptical of the more muscular response he has advocated, according to White House and other administration officials. Aides said Mr. Trump is tightly focused on the Syria problem and has been quizzing staff about the best response—even members of the legal team defending him in the Russia investigation. Mr. Trump has asked for briefing materials and was moved by images of children with foam bubbling from their mouths, symptoms of chemical weapons poisoning, aides said. At the president’s side as he weighs military action is John Bolton, a new national security adviser in his first week on the job. Related Video Victims of an Alleged Chemical Weapons Attack in Syria Footage released by Douma Revolution show patients being treated at a hospital in Syria after an alleged chemical weapons attack. Viewer discretion is advised. PHOTO: SYRIA CIVIL DEFENCE/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES Mr. Bolton favors an attack that would be “ruinous,” crippling some part of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s government and national infrastructure, according to a person familiar with Mr. Bolton’s thinking. Mr. Bolton doesn’t want a reprise of the 2017 attack hitting an airfield that would be up and running in short order, this person said. Mr. Trump’s national-security team was expected to meet again Friday afternoon to discuss the various approaches. The debate over what to do in Syria marks the first time Mr. Mattis is making his case without support from former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who had aligned himself with the Pentagon chief on virtually every major issue that came before the president. This time, Mr. Mattis appears to be a lone voice of dissent in security meetings, U.S. officials said. Mr. Bolton, Acting Secretary of State John Sullivan, and U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley all have expressed support for military strikes, U.S. officials said. —Nancy A. Youssef and Michael C. Bender in Washington, Thomas Grove in Moscow and Farnaz Fassihi at the United Nations contributed to this article. Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss < peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:* Roll Call - Just In > *Date:* April 13, 2018 at 2:14:29 PM PDT > *To:* > *Subject:* *Podcast: Pentagon Reluctant to Enter Syrian War* > *Reply-To:* > > Defense Secretary James Mattis fears wider U.S. involvement in Syria could > "spiral out of control." > > > > [image: Image] > > > > > *Just In* > > > > *Podcast: Pentagon Reluctant to Enter Syrian War > * > > [image: Image] > > > > Defense Secretary James Mattis fears wider U.S. involvement in Syria could > "spiral out of control," even as President Donald Trump is threatening a > strike. And with the Iran nuclear deal still up in the air, U.S. diplomacy > is crippled by the vacancy at the top of the State Department. CQ foreign > policy editor Megan Scully and defense reporter John M. Donnelly explain. > > Read more > > > > > > > > > > > > > Advertise with Us > > > > > An Economist Group Business. Copyright 2018 © CQ Roll Call. All rights > reserved. Privacy > > | Safely unsubscribe > now > or change your subscription preferences > > . > > > > CQ Roll Call 1625 Eye St. NW, Suite 200 Washington DC 20006 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sat Apr 14 06:34:47 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 23:34:47 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria In-Reply-To: <5ad1621f.1c69fb81.41112.a2fa@mx.google.com> References: <5ad1621f.1c69fb81.41112.a2fa@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <2BB90D16-2963-410B-A832-42E314A291BA@gmail.com> On the contrary, the Pentagon - as a result of discussions with Gen. Gerasimov - is exactly where the order for the limited and symbolic strikes on Damascus came from. Maybe they have indeed remembered something and learnt something on that low hill in south Arlington, where I worked as teenager. The orders that the military executed today contrasted with the wildly contradictory accounts from the weakest US president since Coolidge: “We'll be coming out of Syria very soon.,” said Trump last week; “Get ready Russia … smart bombs!” Trump warned on Wednesday, promising strikes on Syria. But the attacks today were limited & symbolic - and avoided Russians.* "I'm seeing both Trump loyalists and parts of the #McResistance falling all over themselves to claim that there were no civilian casualties, long before they could possibly know that such an unreasonable expectation is true. War brings people together in the strangest ways.” [Caitlin Johnstone] And the "Invasion of Syria” by takfiri from the KSA and Qatar was ordered by Obama (who spent a billion dollars on it), not Trump. —CGE *> > On Apr 13, 2018, at 7:06 PM, kmedina67 via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order to bomb Syria came from. > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: C G Estabrook > > The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. > > What would be the popular response to a 'shock and awe' invasion of Syria, a la Iraq? > > —CGE > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:support at lists.aals.org] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 3:00 PM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: [SECTNS.aals] - NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" Yeah, while working for Bush Jr. Comey justified and carried out almost every hideous atrocity Bush Jr et al wanted him to inflict on international law, human rights, the United States Constitution, civil rights, civil liberties and completely innocent human beings--- especially against Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color. Just a Legal Hatchetman! And Chomsky has savaged Niebuhr as nothing more than the Chaplain for US Imperial Apparatchiks in order to salve their Consciences for all the dirty work they have done around the world for the American Empire. Ditto for Obama. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) ________________________________ Site Links: View post online View mailing list online Start new thread via email Unsubscribe from this mailing list Manage your subscription This email has been sent to: fboyle at illinois.edu This list is a forum for the exchange of points of view. Opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of the group associated with the list and do not necessarily represent the position of the Association of American Law Schools. Use of this email content is governed by the terms of service at: https://connect.aals.org/p/cm/ld/fid=280 ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gerasimov - is exactly where the order for the limited and symbolic strikes on Damascus came from. > > Maybe they have indeed remembered something and learnt something on that low hill in south Arlington, where I worked as teenager. > > The orders that the military executed today contrasted with the wildly contradictory accounts from the weakest US president since Coolidge: > “We'll be coming out of Syria very soon.,” said Trump last week; “Get ready Russia … smart bombs!” Trump warned on Wednesday, promising strikes on Syria. > > But the attacks today were limited & symbolic - and avoided Russians.* "I'm seeing both Trump loyalists and parts of the #McResistance falling all over themselves to claim that there were no civilian casualties, long before they could possibly know that such an unreasonable expectation is true. War brings people together in the strangest ways.” [Caitlin Johnstone] > > And the "Invasion of Syria” by takfiri from the KSA and Qatar was ordered by Obama (who spent a billion dollars on it), not Trump. > > —CGE > > *> > > > >> On Apr 13, 2018, at 7:06 PM, kmedina67 via Peace-discuss > wrote: >> >> Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order to bomb Syria came from. >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: C G Estabrook >> >> The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. >> >> What would be the popular response to a 'shock and awe' invasion of Syria, a la Iraq? >> >> —CGE >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:10 AM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: RE: NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" Now that Trump has thrown his Temper Tantrum we will be returning to Pee Tapes Comey and Muellergate. It really sounds, looks and feels around here like The Last Days of The Roman Empire with Trump playing Caligula. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:support at lists.aals.org] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 3:00 PM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: [SECTNS.aals] - NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" Yeah, while working for Bush Jr. Comey justified and carried out almost every hideous atrocity Bush Jr et al wanted him to inflict on international law, human rights, the United States Constitution, civil rights, civil liberties and completely innocent human beings--- especially against Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color. Just a Legal Hatchetman! And Chomsky has savaged Niebuhr as nothing more than the Chaplain for US Imperial Apparatchiks in order to salve their Consciences for all the dirty work they have done around the world for the American Empire. Ditto for Obama. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Apr 14 12:36:58 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:36:58 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: CIA stages gas attack pretext for Syria escalation (Art. from five days ago) References: Message-ID: * Print * Leaflet * Feedback * Share » CIA stages gas attack pretext for Syria escalation 9 April 2018 The US media has seized on the latest claims by CIA-backed groups of a poison gas attack on civilians to demand a further escalation of the US-led war for regime-change in Syria and an increased confrontation with Russia. The Syrian government claims that one of its airbases, in Homs province, has already come under missile attack. While the Pentagon is denying that it has launched any strikes on Syria yet, the rhetoric of the Trump administration indicates that preparations are being made for stepped-up military operations. As with previous allegations of chemical weapons’ use, the public is being inundated with unverified footage of suffering victims, while government officials and the corporate media, prior to any investigation and without any substantiation, declare the government of Bashar al-Assad and its Iranian and Russian allies to be guilty of a war crime. Within minutes, the New York Times and the Washington Postdashed out breathless articles placing the blame for the alleged attack at the feet of the Syrian and Russian governments. The Guardian declared in an editorial that “Syria’s renewed use of chemical weapons against its own people at the weekend is shameless and barbaric.” The current claims are no more credible than those that preceded them. The official narrative that Assad carried out a gas attack in Eastern Ghouta in 2013 was used to prepare a massive US air strike that was canceled at the last minute by the Obama administration—a retreat that earned Obama furious recriminations that continue to the present. Subsequent investigations proved that the attack was actually launched by US-backed “rebels” in conjunction with the Turkish government. The alleged gas attack that was used in April 2017 to justify the major US cruise missile assault on a Syrian air base was similarly exposed to have resulted from an air strike on a “rebel” poison gas facility. The previous pretexts for military escalation were staged by the CIA and its proxy forces in Syria. The latest provocation is no different. There is no credible evidence concerning the claimed attack in the Eastern Ghouta city of Douma, a few miles from the Syrian capital. There are video clips that prove nothing, since they could have been manufactured at any time and edited to serve the purpose. The sole on-the-spot accounts come from the White Helmets, celebrated by the media as a rescue organization, but affiliated with the anti-Assad “rebels” and largely funded by the United States, Britain, Germany and other imperialist powers. This includes $23 million from the US Agency for International Development, a longtime front for the CIA. The Trump White House has denounced the alleged atrocity, with officials making the usual warning, prior to military action, that “everything is on the table.” The US National Security Council (NSC) will convene Monday for the first time under newly appointed chief John Bolton, who played a major role in the Iraq War and has publicly advocated bombing both Iran and North Korea. The NSC will recommend military options to the president. Any such action would bring with it the imminent threat of a wider war. Both Iranian advisers and Russian military personnel are integrated with the Syrian government forces and could well be hit in any significant US military strike, triggering demands for retaliation in both countries. A wider conflict is the deliberate aim of the US military-intelligence apparatus. For a month, the world stage has been dominated by a British-American campaign against Russia, centered on the supposed poisoning of Sergei Skripal, a British spy, and his daughter Yulia, in Salisbury, England. There has been an escalating campaign of accusations, expulsions of Russian officials, and suggestions that the incident amounts to a nerve gas attack on Britain by Moscow, i.e., an act of war. Last week, however, the official narrative of Russian government poisoning collapsed. The British chemical weapons authority announced that it could not determine the source of the supposed poison and both Skripals were reported to be recovering—making nonsense of the claim that they had been poisoned by a deadly nerve gas manufactured in Russia. The new media hysteria over a poison gas attack in Syria serves to divert attention from the collapse of the Skripal provocation, while providing a fresh pretext for escalating the offensive against Russia. There is an additional reason for the focus on Syria. Over the past week, President Trump had publicly questioned continuing the US intervention in that country, given the debacles suffered by the CIA-backed Islamist forces and the consolidation of control over most of the country’s population centers by the Assad government. He initially declared that US troops would leave Syria shortly, only to reverse himself after intense pressure from the Pentagon and CIA, Congress and the media. The Douma incident has put an end to such wavering. As the New York Times noted Sunday night: “Days after President Trump said he wanted to pull the United States out of Syria, Syrian forces hit a suburb of Damascus with bombs that rescue workers said unleashed toxic gas. Within hours, images of dead families sprawled in their homes threatened to change Mr. Trump’s calculus on Syria, possibly drawing him deeper into an intractable Middle Eastern war that he hoped to leave.” The “rebel” group now holding out in Douma, Jaysh al-Islam, part of the Islamist opposition to Assad that includes the Syrian branch of Al Qaeda as well as the remnants of ISIS, has itself been credibly accused of using chlorine gas in the course of fighting against Kurdish forces and civilians in Aleppo in 2016. That charge, made by the Kurds, was given extensive publicityby Voice of America, the propaganda arm of the US government. It is possible that Syrian warplanes struck a weapons cache belonging to the rebel group, causing the gas to leak out. More likely, the poison gas was deliberately released by Jaysh al-Islam, at behest of its CIA backers, to provide a pretext for US military intervention. Assuming, that is, that the reports of poison gas exposure are not simply manufactured by the US intelligence agencies for rebroadcast by a servile media. What is least likely, from a political standpoint, is that the Assad government, just as it was on the brink of final victory in Eastern Ghouta after more than five years of bitter fighting, should suddenly unleash a poison gas attack, which would have no military value but would invite a savage response from the Trump administration and the other Western powers. A Syrian government statement pointed this out, declaring that “an army that is progressing quickly… does not need to use any kind of chemical weapons.” According to Al Jazeera and Russian news sources, Jaysh al-Islam has been so thoroughly defeated that it has struck an agreement to completely withdraw all its militia and their families from Douma over the next 48 hours or so. Russian troops will reportedly move in to take control of the city. Iran’s Foreign Ministry rebuffed the US claims of a gas attack in Douma. “Such claims and allegations by the Americans and some Western countries point to a new plot against the Syrian government and people, and are an excuse to take military action against them,” a spokesman told the press. The Russian government denounced the US campaign over the supposed gas attack as a political provocation aimed at justifying deeper US military intervention in the Syrian civil war. “The spread of bogus stories about the use of chlorine and other poisonous substances by government forces continues,” the Russian Foreign Ministry said. “We have warned several times recently against such dangerous provocations. The aim of such deceitful speculation, lacking any kind of grounding, is to shield terrorists… and to attempt to justify possible external uses of force.” The latest provocation follows a well-worn pattern, from the lies over Iraqi “weapons of mass destruction” to the present. The American intelligence agencies give the signal. Nonstop coverage is immediately launched on cable television, then demands for action are made by the White House and congressional leaders, boosted by editorials written by CIA mouthpieces such as the New York Times. The brazen lies of the media are accompanied by breathtaking hypocrisy. The Times, the Washington Post, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN and company downplay and cover up the atrocities carried out by American forces and their allies—the incineration of Mosul and Raqqa, the gunning down of demonstrators in Gaza by the Israeli military, the mass killings in Yemen carried out with US support by Saudi Arabia, even as its crown prince is feted by the US ruling elite, and the ongoing slaughter in Afghanistan. The overwhelming responsibility for the continuing carnage and suffering in Syria—as well as in Iraq, Yemen and throughout the Middle East—rests squarely with US imperialism, which has launched one war after another based on lies in an attempt to establish control over the region and its vital energy resources. The prospect of US strikes in response to the allegations of a chemical attack urgently poses the danger of a wider war and the need for an international working class movement against war and for socialism. Patrick Martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Apr 14 12:40:47 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:40:47 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] CIA stages gas attack pretext for Syria escalation (Art. from five days ago) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "There's a sucker born every minute." CIA Channeling PT Barnum. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:37 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: CIA stages gas attack pretext for Syria escalation (Art. from five days ago) · Print · Leaflet · Feedback · Share » CIA stages gas attack pretext for Syria escalation 9 April 2018 The US media has seized on the latest claims by CIA-backed groups of a poison gas attack on civilians to demand a further escalation of the US-led war for regime-change in Syria and an increased confrontation with Russia. The Syrian government claims that one of its airbases, in Homs province, has already come under missile attack. While the Pentagon is denying that it has launched any strikes on Syria yet, the rhetoric of the Trump administration indicates that preparations are being made for stepped-up military operations. As with previous allegations of chemical weapons’ use, the public is being inundated with unverified footage of suffering victims, while government officials and the corporate media, prior to any investigation and without any substantiation, declare the government of Bashar al-Assad and its Iranian and Russian allies to be guilty of a war crime. Within minutes, the New York Times and the Washington Postdashed out breathless articles placing the blame for the alleged attack at the feet of the Syrian and Russian governments. The Guardian declared in an editorial that “Syria’s renewed use of chemical weapons against its own people at the weekend is shameless and barbaric.” The current claims are no more credible than those that preceded them. The official narrative that Assad carried out a gas attack in Eastern Ghouta in 2013 was used to prepare a massive US air strike that was canceled at the last minute by the Obama administration—a retreat that earned Obama furious recriminations that continue to the present. Subsequent investigations proved that the attack was actually launched by US-backed “rebels” in conjunction with the Turkish government. The alleged gas attack that was used in April 2017 to justify the major US cruise missile assault on a Syrian air base was similarly exposed to have resulted from an air strike on a “rebel” poison gas facility. The previous pretexts for military escalation were staged by the CIA and its proxy forces in Syria. The latest provocation is no different. There is no credible evidence concerning the claimed attack in the Eastern Ghouta city of Douma, a few miles from the Syrian capital. There are video clips that prove nothing, since they could have been manufactured at any time and edited to serve the purpose. The sole on-the-spot accounts come from the White Helmets, celebrated by the media as a rescue organization, but affiliated with the anti-Assad “rebels” and largely funded by the United States, Britain, Germany and other imperialist powers. This includes $23 million from the US Agency for International Development, a longtime front for the CIA. The Trump White House has denounced the alleged atrocity, with officials making the usual warning, prior to military action, that “everything is on the table.” The US National Security Council (NSC) will convene Monday for the first time under newly appointed chief John Bolton, who played a major role in the Iraq War and has publicly advocated bombing both Iran and North Korea. The NSC will recommend military options to the president. Any such action would bring with it the imminent threat of a wider war. Both Iranian advisers and Russian military personnel are integrated with the Syrian government forces and could well be hit in any significant US military strike, triggering demands for retaliation in both countries. A wider conflict is the deliberate aim of the US military-intelligence apparatus. For a month, the world stage has been dominated by a British-American campaign against Russia, centered on the supposed poisoning of Sergei Skripal, a British spy, and his daughter Yulia, in Salisbury, England. There has been an escalating campaign of accusations, expulsions of Russian officials, and suggestions that the incident amounts to a nerve gas attack on Britain by Moscow, i.e., an act of war. Last week, however, the official narrative of Russian government poisoning collapsed. The British chemical weapons authority announced that it could not determine the source of the supposed poison and both Skripals were reported to be recovering—making nonsense of the claim that they had been poisoned by a deadly nerve gas manufactured in Russia. The new media hysteria over a poison gas attack in Syria serves to divert attention from the collapse of the Skripal provocation, while providing a fresh pretext for escalating the offensive against Russia. There is an additional reason for the focus on Syria. Over the past week, President Trump had publicly questioned continuing the US intervention in that country, given the debacles suffered by the CIA-backed Islamist forces and the consolidation of control over most of the country’s population centers by the Assad government. He initially declared that US troops would leave Syria shortly, only to reverse himself after intense pressure from the Pentagon and CIA, Congress and the media. The Douma incident has put an end to such wavering. As the New York Times noted Sunday night: “Days after President Trump said he wanted to pull the United States out of Syria, Syrian forces hit a suburb of Damascus with bombs that rescue workers said unleashed toxic gas. Within hours, images of dead families sprawled in their homes threatened to change Mr. Trump’s calculus on Syria, possibly drawing him deeper into an intractable Middle Eastern war that he hoped to leave.” The “rebel” group now holding out in Douma, Jaysh al-Islam, part of the Islamist opposition to Assad that includes the Syrian branch of Al Qaeda as well as the remnants of ISIS, has itself been credibly accused of using chlorine gas in the course of fighting against Kurdish forces and civilians in Aleppo in 2016. That charge, made by the Kurds, was given extensive publicityby Voice of America, the propaganda arm of the US government. It is possible that Syrian warplanes struck a weapons cache belonging to the rebel group, causing the gas to leak out. More likely, the poison gas was deliberately released by Jaysh al-Islam, at behest of its CIA backers, to provide a pretext for US military intervention. Assuming, that is, that the reports of poison gas exposure are not simply manufactured by the US intelligence agencies for rebroadcast by a servile media. What is least likely, from a political standpoint, is that the Assad government, just as it was on the brink of final victory in Eastern Ghouta after more than five years of bitter fighting, should suddenly unleash a poison gas attack, which would have no military value but would invite a savage response from the Trump administration and the other Western powers. A Syrian government statement pointed this out, declaring that “an army that is progressing quickly… does not need to use any kind of chemical weapons.” According to Al Jazeera and Russian news sources, Jaysh al-Islam has been so thoroughly defeated that it has struck an agreement to completely withdraw all its militia and their families from Douma over the next 48 hours or so. Russian troops will reportedly move in to take control of the city. Iran’s Foreign Ministry rebuffed the US claims of a gas attack in Douma. “Such claims and allegations by the Americans and some Western countries point to a new plot against the Syrian government and people, and are an excuse to take military action against them,” a spokesman told the press. The Russian government denounced the US campaign over the supposed gas attack as a political provocation aimed at justifying deeper US military intervention in the Syrian civil war. “The spread of bogus stories about the use of chlorine and other poisonous substances by government forces continues,” the Russian Foreign Ministry said. “We have warned several times recently against such dangerous provocations. The aim of such deceitful speculation, lacking any kind of grounding, is to shield terrorists… and to attempt to justify possible external uses of force.” The latest provocation follows a well-worn pattern, from the lies over Iraqi “weapons of mass destruction” to the present. The American intelligence agencies give the signal. Nonstop coverage is immediately launched on cable television, then demands for action are made by the White House and congressional leaders, boosted by editorials written by CIA mouthpieces such as the New York Times. The brazen lies of the media are accompanied by breathtaking hypocrisy. The Times, the Washington Post, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN and company downplay and cover up the atrocities carried out by American forces and their allies—the incineration of Mosul and Raqqa, the gunning down of demonstrators in Gaza by the Israeli military, the mass killings in Yemen carried out with US support by Saudi Arabia, even as its crown prince is feted by the US ruling elite, and the ongoing slaughter in Afghanistan. The overwhelming responsibility for the continuing carnage and suffering in Syria—as well as in Iraq, Yemen and throughout the Middle East—rests squarely with US imperialism, which has launched one war after another based on lies in an attempt to establish control over the region and its vital energy resources. The prospect of US strikes in response to the allegations of a chemical attack urgently poses the danger of a wider war and the need for an international working class movement against war and for socialism. Patrick Martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moboct1 at aim.com Sat Apr 14 12:51:17 2018 From: moboct1 at aim.com (Mildred O'brien) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 08:51:17 -0400 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria In-Reply-To: <5ad1621f.1c69fb81.41112.a2fa@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <162c435b7a4-179f-1eab8@webjas-vad117.srv.aolmail.net> Guess Trump REALLY IS THE PRESIDENT--just like he said (pinching himself) "I AM the President" (now you'd better believe it!)  Look for his approval ratings in U.S. to soar MO'B -----Original Message----- From: kmedina67 via Peace-discuss To: Peace-discuss List Sent: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 9:06 pm Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order  to bomb Syria came from.  -------- Original message -------- From: C G Estabrook  The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. What would be the popular response to a 'shock and awe' invasion of Syria, a la Iraq? —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Sat Apr 14 12:54:22 2018 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 07:54:22 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria In-Reply-To: <162c435b7a4-179f-1eab8@webjas-vad117.srv.aolmail.net> References: <5ad1621f.1c69fb81.41112.a2fa@mx.google.com> <162c435b7a4-179f-1eab8@webjas-vad117.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <007801d3d3ef$b62ec800$228c5800$@comcast.net> Trump ( or any other President in recent history won’t fart unless they have the approval or are told to by the ruling class oligarchy. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:51 AM To: kmedina67 at gmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Guess Trump REALLY IS THE PRESIDENT--just like he said (pinching himself) "I AM the President" (now you'd better believe it!) Look for his approval ratings in U.S. to soar MO'B -----Original Message----- From: kmedina67 via Peace-discuss To: Peace-discuss List Sent: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 9:06 pm Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order to bomb Syria came from. -------- Original message -------- From: C G Estabrook The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. What would be the popular response to a 'shock and awe' invasion of Syria, a la Iraq? —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Apr 14 12:55:29 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:55:29 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria In-Reply-To: <162c435b7a4-179f-1eab8@webjas-vad117.srv.aolmail.net> References: <5ad1621f.1c69fb81.41112.a2fa@mx.google.com> <162c435b7a4-179f-1eab8@webjas-vad117.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: Yeah, Trump knows that Patriotism is the Last Refuge of a Scoundrel such as he. Wagging The Dog. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:51 AM To: kmedina67 at gmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Guess Trump REALLY IS THE PRESIDENT--just like he said (pinching himself) "I AM the President" (now you'd better believe it!) Look for his approval ratings in U.S. to soar MO'B -----Original Message----- From: kmedina67 via Peace-discuss > To: Peace-discuss List > Sent: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 9:06 pm Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order to bomb Syria came from. -------- Original message -------- From: C G Estabrook The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. What would be the popular response to a 'shock and awe' invasion of Syria, a la Iraq? —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Apr 14 12:58:09 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:58:09 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria In-Reply-To: <007801d3d3ef$b62ec800$228c5800$@comcast.net> References: <5ad1621f.1c69fb81.41112.a2fa@mx.google.com> <162c435b7a4-179f-1eab8@webjas-vad117.srv.aolmail.net> <007801d3d3ef$b62ec800$228c5800$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Yeah, just look at all the Scoundrels in the Mainstream Media Baying for War. The Real Dogs Of War. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of David Johnson via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:54 AM To: 'Mildred O'brien' ; kmedina67 at gmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Trump ( or any other President in recent history won’t fart unless they have the approval or are told to by the ruling class oligarchy. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:51 AM To: kmedina67 at gmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Guess Trump REALLY IS THE PRESIDENT--just like he said (pinching himself) "I AM the President" (now you'd better believe it!) Look for his approval ratings in U.S. to soar MO'B -----Original Message----- From: kmedina67 via Peace-discuss > To: Peace-discuss List > Sent: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 9:06 pm Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order to bomb Syria came from. -------- Original message -------- From: C G Estabrook The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. What would be the popular response to a 'shock and awe' invasion of Syria, a la Iraq? —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Apr 14 13:38:49 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:38:49 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria In-Reply-To: <007801d3d3ef$b62ec800$228c5800$@comcast.net> References: <5ad1621f.1c69fb81.41112.a2fa@mx.google.com> <162c435b7a4-179f-1eab8@webjas-vad117.srv.aolmail.net> <007801d3d3ef$b62ec800$228c5800$@comcast.net> Message-ID: I share David Johnson’s analysis of the US President, short and to the point, no matter who the President maybe, no matter what Party, within our two Party system, they represent. They are owned by the Corporate elites, along with the Pentagon, CIA, Think Tanks, Contractors, etc. It’s called “capitalism” and “imperialism" is the late stage of capitalism. We are here now. “Syria” has been on the planning board for at least fifteen years, along with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Iran, one way or another. if they can’t have regime change, they will partition. Our western allies, will share in the spoils of war, along with KSA, Qatar, and Israel. On Apr 14, 2018, at 05:54, David Johnson via Peace-discuss > wrote: Trump ( or any other President in recent history won’t fart unless they have the approval or are told to by the ruling class oligarchy. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:51 AM To: kmedina67 at gmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Guess Trump REALLY IS THE PRESIDENT--just like he said (pinching himself) "I AM the President" (now you'd better believe it!) Look for his approval ratings in U.S. to soar MO'B -----Original Message----- From: kmedina67 via Peace-discuss > To: Peace-discuss List > Sent: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 9:06 pm Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order to bomb Syria came from. -------- Original message -------- From: C G Estabrook The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. What would be the popular response to a 'shock and awe' invasion of Syria, a la Iraq? —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Apr 14 15:07:05 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:07:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE monthly demo. today Message-ID: AWARE (Anti-War, Anti-Racism, Effort of Champaign Urbana, Il) will hold their monthly demonstration today at the corner of Neil & Church Sts., downtown Champaign. 2:00 - 4:00pm Signs will be provided. All are welcome to join us Please bring your rainwear as it likely will be wet. Please see todays flyer below: ================= TELL YOUR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES: ASSERT YOUR WAR POWERS BEFORE TRUMP STRIKES SYRIA Tell your Rep. to sign the Lofgren-Amash letter to stop an unconstitutional strike on Syria. The New York Times is reporting that Trump has warned Russia that U.S. missiles “will be coming” to Syria. But Senator Tim Kaine [D-VA] and Senator Mike Lee [R-UT] and the Congressional Progressive Caucus have a very different idea. Under the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution, Congress, not the President, decides when to use military force. The NYT reports: 'Senator Tim Kaine, Democrat of Virginia, said Mr. Trump needed permission from Congress before action. “He’s a president, not a king, and Congress needs to quit giving him a blank check to wage war against anyone, anywhere,” Mr. Kaine said. “If he strikes Syria without our approval, what will stop him from bombing North Korea or Iran?”’ The NYT’s Max Fisher justly mocked Washington’s 'cult of limited strikes’: "They accomplish nothing but unnecessary killing. But Washington loves them anyway, because past experience doesn’t matter. When it comes to pointless uses of military force, Washington culture is denialist: repeated failure doesn’t cause learning." Democrat or Republican, Congressional Representatives have an easy way to assert their war powers before Trump strikes Syria: they can sign the bipartisan Lofgren-Amash letter to Trump, telling him to come to Congress for authorization before attacking Syria. That’s what stopped unconstitutional military action in Syria in August 2013 – two hundred Democratic and Republican House members signing letters to the President, saying under the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution, you have to come to us for authorization before striking Syria. Call CONGRESSMAN RODNEY DAVIS now at (202) 225-2371. When you reach a staffer or leave a message, you can say, “I urge you to defend the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution. Sign the bipartisan Lofgren-Amash letter insisting that President Trump get Congressional authorization before striking Syria.” + + + [Thanks to 'Just Foreign Policy' for the text above. This flyer is circulated by AWARE, a local peace group.] ANTI-WAR ANTI-RACISM EFFORT - on Facebook at ~ U.S. troops & weapons out of the Mideast ~ Medicare for all ~ Universal basic income ~ Our representatives in Congress from this area - and their email addresses - are as follows: Representative Rodney Davis: Senator Tammy Duckworth: Senator Dick Durbin: =============================================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Apr 14 15:21:40 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:21:40 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Anti-War March Saturday 5 PM CDT, West Side Park Champaign, Il References: Message-ID: Please join PSL for a march against war. This is a new group of young people, some students, many not. PSL, “Party for Socialist Liberation.” Their anti-war division is ANSWER. They maybe new to Champaign, but they have been actively opposing war for many years, with chapters across the country, in most major city’s. They are holding their march against war at West Side Park, meeting at 5:00pm in the pavilion at the southwest corner. From the PSL: The threat of the Trump administration to launch new military action against Syria saw a significant escalation on Tuesday, April 10th. They have stated that action will take place within 24 or 48 hours. We are currently approaching the end of that time frame. The Syrian government has denied and invited investigation of claims about their recent alleged chemical attack, which is the excuse the Trump admin is using to justify the air strike that is being discussed. Two previous claims about chemical attacks by the Syrian government turned out to be unsubstantiated. Even by the Trump admin's own admission, the current claim also remains unsubstantiated. This cannot have any other impact but to prepare the population for the “justice” of another U.S. imperialist intervention in the Middle East. It is very reminiscent of the false "weapons of mass destruction" claims that created the pretext for the Iraq war in 2003. Therefore, we are staging a protest and march to make our opposition clear. We urge everyone who opposes the U.S. war machine to join us in this critical moment to push back against the warmongers in the government and media. Meet us at the pavilion in the southwest of West Side Park near downtown Champaign at 5:00pm this Saturday. Co-sponsors will speak briefly before we begin the march through downtown Champaign, and loop back around to the park. Co-sponsoring organizations will be announced soon.Saturday! Say "no" to imperialist war on Syria! #HandsOffSyria PSL, new group in town. [https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/c0.0.739.389/p417x417/30653229_219546115290923_7540732252624257024_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeF8iaI-TvJL2Y5YBKfLakbgIIlWJ5-licpFQCtf2okxhJ50A--NuRcOXqTIWOXivJorRNB_hyWc_VX-L2G5KWGgW1gOnR-M8bReq4WTmsjxiQ&oh=2a3649c2b310120cb9fcd283ebd31796&oe=5B290A05] APR14 Interested Hands Off Syria! Anti-War March Sat 5 PM CDT · West Side Park · Champaign, IL _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bjornsona at ameritech.net Sat Apr 14 15:46:57 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (bjornsona at ameritech.net) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:46:57 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Anti-War March Saturday 5 PM CDT, West Side Park Champaign, Il Message-ID: Thank you for posting, Karen Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Date: Sat, Apr 14, 2018 10:22 AMTo: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);peace;Cc: Subject:[Peace-discuss] Anti-War March Saturday 5 PM CDT, West Side Park Champaign, Il Please join PSL for a march against war.  This is a new group of young people, some students, many not.  PSL, “Party for Socialist Liberation.” Their anti-war division is ANSWER. They maybe new to Champaign, but they have been actively opposing war for many years, with chapters across the country, in most major city’s.  They are holding their march against war at West Side Park, meeting at 5:00pm in the pavilion at the southwest corner. >From the PSL: The threat of the Trump administration to launch new military action against Syria saw a significant escalation on Tuesday, April 10th. They have stated that action will take place within 24 or 48 hours. We are currently approaching the end of that time frame. The Syrian government has denied and invited investigation of claims about their recent alleged chemical attack, which is the excuse the Trump admin is using to justify the air strike that is being discussed. Two previous claims about chemical attacks by the Syrian government turned out to be unsubstantiated. Even by the Trump admin's own admission, the current claim also remains unsubstantiated.  This cannot have any other impact but to prepare the population for the “justice” of another U.S. imperialist intervention in the Middle East. It is very reminiscent of the false "weapons of mass destruction" claims that created the pretext for the Iraq war in 2003. Therefore, we are staging a protest and march to make our opposition clear.  We urge everyone who opposes the U.S. war machine to join us in this critical moment to push back against the warmongers in the government and media. Meet us at the pavilion in the southwest of West Side Park near downtown Champaign at 5:00pm this Saturday. Co-sponsors will speak briefly before we begin the march through downtown Champaign, and loop back around to the park. Co-sponsoring organizations will be announced soon.Saturday! Say "no" to imperialist war on Syria! #HandsOffSyria PSL, new group in town. APR14 Interested Hands Off Syria! 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Obama too said Niebuhr was his favorite theologian. No wonder Obama appointed Pee Tapes Comey Director of the American Gestapo-AKA FBI. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:34 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" It really sounds, looks and feels around here like The Last Days of The Roman Empire with Trump playing Caligula. Trump Tweet Channeling Bush Jr: "Mission Accomplished!" QED. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:10 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: FW: NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:10 AM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: RE: NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" Now that Trump has thrown his Temper Tantrum we will be returning to Pee Tapes Comey and Muellergate. It really sounds, looks and feels around here like The Last Days of The Roman Empire with Trump playing Caligula. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A [mailto:support at lists.aals.org] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 3:00 PM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: [SECTNS.aals] - NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" Yeah, while working for Bush Jr. Comey justified and carried out almost every hideous atrocity Bush Jr et al wanted him to inflict on international law, human rights, the United States Constitution, civil rights, civil liberties and completely innocent human beings--- especially against Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color. Just a Legal Hatchetman! And Chomsky has savaged Niebuhr as nothing more than the Chaplain for US Imperial Apparatchiks in order to salve their Consciences for all the dirty work they have done around the world for the American Empire. Ditto for Obama. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sat Apr 14 16:36:27 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 09:36:27 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <802A5CC0-6953-4D20-8E6F-19FD86F9B67E@gmail.com> Discrediting the awful Niebuhr is a consummation devoutly to be wished. From 30 years ago: . > On Apr 14, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > For those of you who might not have waded through Niebuhr, in a nutshell his basic argument is that although you can be moral in your personal life, you must be immoral if you work for the United States government. Ain’t it the truth? Machiavelli made a similar argument in his Prince: Wherefore a prince must learn how not to be good, and use it or not according to necessity. Niebuhr is required reading in college and graduate school for aspiring US Imperial Apparatchiks in order to soothe their consciences for all the dirty work they do for the American Empire. Obama too said Niebuhr was his favorite theologian. No wonder Obama appointed Pee Tapes Comey Director of the American Gestapo—AKA FBI. > Fab > > From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Apr 14 16:43:55 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 16:43:55 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" In-Reply-To: <802A5CC0-6953-4D20-8E6F-19FD86F9B67E@gmail.com> References: <802A5CC0-6953-4D20-8E6F-19FD86F9B67E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Required reading at UChicago and Harvard to get my 4 degrees from them. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:36 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" Discrediting the awful Niebuhr is a consummation devoutly to be wished. From 30 years ago: . > On Apr 14, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > For those of you who might not have waded through Niebuhr, in a nutshell his basic argument is that although you can be moral in your personal life, you must be immoral if you work for the United States government. Ain’t it the truth? Machiavelli made a similar argument in his Prince: Wherefore a prince must learn how not to be good, and use it or not according to necessity. Niebuhr is required reading in college and graduate school for aspiring US Imperial Apparatchiks in order to soothe their consciences for all the dirty work they do for the American Empire. Obama too said Niebuhr was his favorite theologian. No wonder Obama appointed Pee Tapes Comey Director of the American Gestapo—AKA FBI. > Fab > > From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Apr 14 16:46:45 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 16:46:45 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" In-Reply-To: References: <802A5CC0-6953-4D20-8E6F-19FD86F9B67E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Before going to Harvard Law School, Obama transferred into Columbia for college where his Mentor was the Infamous Brzezinski--Machiavellian to the Core. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:44 AM To: C G Estabrook Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" Required reading at UChicago and Harvard to get my 4 degrees from them. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:36 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" Discrediting the awful Niebuhr is a consummation devoutly to be wished. From 30 years ago: . > On Apr 14, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > For those of you who might not have waded through Niebuhr, in a nutshell his basic argument is that although you can be moral in your personal life, you must be immoral if you work for the United States government. Ain’t it the truth? Machiavelli made a similar argument in his Prince: Wherefore a prince must learn how not to be good, and use it or not according to necessity. Niebuhr is required reading in college and graduate school for aspiring US Imperial Apparatchiks in order to soothe their consciences for all the dirty work they do for the American Empire. Obama too said Niebuhr was his favorite theologian. No wonder Obama appointed Pee Tapes Comey Director of the American Gestapo—AKA FBI. > Fab > > _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sat Apr 14 16:54:13 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 09:54:13 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" In-Reply-To: References: <802A5CC0-6953-4D20-8E6F-19FD86F9B67E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <75D5D09B-44CB-42DA-91B9-87BC3DE28CC3@gmail.com> It seems that Il principe was a sardonic joke that was too good: v. >. > On Apr 14, 2018, at 9:46 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Before going to Harvard Law School, Obama transferred into Columbia for college where his Mentor was the Infamous Brzezinski--Machiavellian to the Core. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:44 AM > To: C G Estabrook > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" > > Required reading at UChicago and Harvard to get my 4 degrees from them. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:36 AM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" > > Discrediting the awful Niebuhr is a consummation devoutly to be wished. > > From 30 years ago: . > > >> On Apr 14, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> For those of you who might not have waded through Niebuhr, in a nutshell his basic argument is that although you can be moral in your personal life, you must be immoral if you work for the United States government. Ain’t it the truth? Machiavelli made a similar argument in his Prince: Wherefore a prince must learn how not to be good, and use it or not according to necessity. Niebuhr is required reading in college and graduate school for aspiring US Imperial Apparatchiks in order to soothe their consciences for all the dirty work they do for the American Empire. Obama too said Niebuhr was his favorite theologian. No wonder Obama appointed Pee Tapes Comey Director of the American Gestapo—AKA FBI. >> Fab >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Apr 14 17:00:20 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 17:00:20 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" In-Reply-To: <75D5D09B-44CB-42DA-91B9-87BC3DE28CC3@gmail.com> References: <802A5CC0-6953-4D20-8E6F-19FD86F9B67E@gmail.com> <75D5D09B-44CB-42DA-91B9-87BC3DE28CC3@gmail.com> Message-ID: We have been through this before. For ten years getting four degrees at the University of Chicago (1) and Harvard (3) in Political Science (3) and Law (1), not one of my professors treated Machiavelli’s The Prince as a joke. Indeed, even Harvey Mansfield, Harvard’s leading Straussian NeoConservative Theorist for the last generation took the time to do his own translation of Machiavelli’s The Prince because the Straussian NeoCons are Machiavellians. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:54 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" It seems that Il principe was a sardonic joke that was too good: v. . On Apr 14, 2018, at 9:46 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: Before going to Harvard Law School, Obama transferred into Columbia for college where his Mentor was the Infamous Brzezinski--Machiavellian to the Core. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:44 AM To: C G Estabrook > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" Required reading at UChicago and Harvard to get my 4 degrees from them. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:36 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" Discrediting the awful Niebuhr is a consummation devoutly to be wished. From 30 years ago: . On Apr 14, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: For those of you who might not have waded through Niebuhr, in a nutshell his basic argument is that although you can be moral in your personal life, you must be immoral if you work for the United States government. Ain’t it the truth? Machiavelli made a similar argument in his Prince: Wherefore a prince must learn how not to be good, and use it or not according to necessity. Niebuhr is required reading in college and graduate school for aspiring US Imperial Apparatchiks in order to soothe their consciences for all the dirty work they do for the American Empire. Obama too said Niebuhr was his favorite theologian. No wonder Obama appointed Pee Tapes Comey Director of the American Gestapo—AKA FBI. Fab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sat Apr 14 17:07:01 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:07:01 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" In-Reply-To: References: <802A5CC0-6953-4D20-8E6F-19FD86F9B67E@gmail.com> <75D5D09B-44CB-42DA-91B9-87BC3DE28CC3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45AE0E90-F7B6-4CCC-98D3-12E6F68FBA05@gmail.com> I’m surprised to see you quoting Harvey ‘C-plus' Mansfield in support of an historical opinion. Garrett Mattingly is better. > On Apr 14, 2018, at 10:00 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > We have been through this before. For ten years getting four degrees at the University of Chicago (1) and Harvard (3) in Political Science (3) and Law (1), not one of my professors treated Machiavelli’s The Prince as a joke. Indeed, even Harvey Mansfield, Harvard’s leading Straussian NeoConservative Theorist for the last generation took the time to do his own translation of Machiavelli’s The Prince because the Straussian NeoCons are Machiavellians. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:54 AM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" > > It seems that Il principe was a sardonic joke that was too good: v. . > > > On Apr 14, 2018, at 9:46 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Before going to Harvard Law School, Obama transferred into Columbia for college where his Mentor was the Infamous Brzezinski--Machiavellian to the Core. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:44 AM > To: C G Estabrook > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" > > Required reading at UChicago and Harvard to get my 4 degrees from them. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:36 AM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" > > Discrediting the awful Niebuhr is a consummation devoutly to be wished. > > From 30 years ago: . > > > > On Apr 14, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > For those of you who might not have waded through Niebuhr, in a nutshell his basic argument is that although you can be moral in your personal life, you must be immoral if you work for the United States government. Ain’t it the truth? Machiavelli made a similar argument in his Prince: Wherefore a prince must learn how not to be good, and use it or not according to necessity. Niebuhr is required reading in college and graduate school for aspiring US Imperial Apparatchiks in order to soothe their consciences for all the dirty work they do for the American Empire. Obama too said Niebuhr was his favorite theologian. No wonder Obama appointed Pee Tapes Comey Director of the American Gestapo—AKA FBI. > Fab > From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Apr 14 17:14:58 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 17:14:58 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" In-Reply-To: <45AE0E90-F7B6-4CCC-98D3-12E6F68FBA05@gmail.com> References: <802A5CC0-6953-4D20-8E6F-19FD86F9B67E@gmail.com> <75D5D09B-44CB-42DA-91B9-87BC3DE28CC3@gmail.com> <45AE0E90-F7B6-4CCC-98D3-12E6F68FBA05@gmail.com> Message-ID: I am citing ten years of professors at UChicago and Harvard in law and political science, including but not limited to Straussian Harvey. Harvey trained all the Harvard NeoCons for the past generation, making him existentially dangerous eventhough he is a slimeball. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 12:07 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" I’m surprised to see you quoting Harvey ‘C-plus' Mansfield in support of an historical opinion. Garrett Mattingly is better. > On Apr 14, 2018, at 10:00 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > We have been through this before. For ten years getting four degrees at the University of Chicago (1) and Harvard (3) in Political Science (3) and Law (1), not one of my professors treated Machiavelli’s The Prince as a joke. Indeed, even Harvey Mansfield, Harvard’s leading Straussian NeoConservative Theorist for the last generation took the time to do his own translation of Machiavelli’s The Prince because the Straussian NeoCons are Machiavellians. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:54 AM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" > > It seems that Il principe was a sardonic joke that was too good: v. . > > > On Apr 14, 2018, at 9:46 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Before going to Harvard Law School, Obama transferred into Columbia for college where his Mentor was the Infamous Brzezinski--Machiavellian to the Core. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:44 AM > To: C G Estabrook > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" > > Required reading at UChicago and Harvard to get my 4 degrees from them. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:36 AM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball" > > Discrediting the awful Niebuhr is a consummation devoutly to be wished. > > From 30 years ago: . > > > > On Apr 14, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > For those of you who might not have waded through Niebuhr, in a nutshell his basic argument is that although you can be moral in your personal life, you must be immoral if you work for the United States government. Ain’t it the truth? Machiavelli made a similar argument in his Prince: Wherefore a prince must learn how not to be good, and use it or not according to necessity. Niebuhr is required reading in college and graduate school for aspiring US Imperial Apparatchiks in order to soothe their consciences for all the dirty work they do for the American Empire. Obama too said Niebuhr was his favorite theologian. No wonder Obama appointed Pee Tapes Comey Director of the American Gestapo—AKA FBI. > Fab > From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Apr 14 18:26:51 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 18:26:51 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Syria Bombing "Illegal, " Likely to "Prolong" Syrian War -- Interviews Available References: Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 1:26 PM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: Syria Bombing "Illegal," Likely to "Prolong" Syrian War -- Interviews Available FRANCIS BOYLE, (217) 333-7954, fboyle at illinois.edu Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He was recently on an IPA news release: "Attacking Syria 'Impeachable.'" See his recent interview on WMNF. He also recently wrote the piece "America’s ‘Unlimited Imperialists’" for Consortium News. Boyle's books include Foundations of World Order (1999) and Destroying World Order (2015). Syria Bombing "Illegal," Likely to "Prolong" Syrian War -- Interviews Available [On Twitter] The U.S., France and Britain bombed Syria Friday. This took place just before inspectors from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons were to begin their work in Syria. CHARLES GLASS, [currently in England], charlesglassbooks at gmail.com, @charlesmglass Glass was ABC News Chief Middle East correspondent and has written extensively on Syria, including covering the civil war on the ground. He said today: "The Trump-May-Macron bombardment of Syria did not kill many people, and it has not caused World War III. What more could anyone hope? Far from ending the war in Syria, it is likely to prolong it." Glass' books include Syria Burning: ISIS and the Death of the Arab Spring. A year ago, he wrote the piece "Think the War in Syria Is Winding Down? Think Again." His most recent piece is "The Result of a Loyalist Victory in Syria’s Eastern Ghouta? More Violence." See his website: CharlesGlass.net. ALFRED DE ZAYAS, [in Geneva] 011-41-22-788-2231, alfreddezayas at gmail.com, @alfreddezayas Alfred de Zayas is the UN Independent Expert (Special Rapporteur) on the Promotion of a Democratic and Equitable International Order. He was just on The Real News: "Trump's Attack on Syria Violates International Law." FRANCIS BOYLE, (217) 333-7954, fboyle at illinois.edu Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He was recently on an IPA news release: "Attacking Syria 'Impeachable.'" See his recent interview on WMNF. He also recently wrote the piece "America’s ‘Unlimited Imperialists’" for Consortium News. Boyle's books include Foundations of World Order (1999) and Destroying World Order (2015). For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 421-6858; (202) 347-0020; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167 April 14, 2018 Institute for Public Accuracy 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org * ipa at accuracy.org [Action Network] Sent via Action Network, a free online toolset anyone can use to organize. Click here to sign up and get started building an email list and creating online actions today. 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They’re unjustified regardless. > On Apr 14, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Counterpunch authors (Cockburn, Cohen, Goodman in recent articles) seem to have bought into the US-UK-France-… > tale that Syria (and Russia) used chemical weapons in Syria (and England). > > Watch, instead arevealing interview from England: https://youtu.be/F0ds2TUpB4M > > —mkb > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sat Apr 14 22:08:54 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:08:54 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Counterpunch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <708DE2C1-F411-4A30-9B34-C0D070138C6F@gmail.com> > On Apr 14, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Counterpunch authors (Cockburn, Cohen, Goodman in recent articles) seem to have bought into the US-UK-France-… > tale that Syria (and Russia) used chemical weapons in Syria (and England). > > Watch, instead arevealing interview from England: https://youtu.be/F0ds2TUpB4M From the editor of Counterpunch: + I have no idea who was behind the ghastly chemical weapons attack in Douma. But I do know that prolonged wars make these kinds of atrocities almost inevitable, even by armies which are on the verge of victory: Wounded Knee, Dresden, Nagasaki, Grozny, Fallujah. So what is the response of the foreign policy elites, both Republican and Democrat? More war, more massacres… + Here’s an idea, Donald. Boast all you want about how smart your bombs are. How powerful they are. And when you’re going to launch them and how big the craters will be …. then don’t do it. Millions will back your crafty deception. + Before testifying at his Senate confirmation hearings, Mike Pompeo Maximus consulted with Hillary Clinton on how to handle himself as Secretary of State. HRC to Pompeo: “First bomb the hell out of Syria, launch a few cruise missiles at Tehran and then send NATO into Crimea. Pick up the phone by at least the second ring whenever Bibi calls. Never send emails to anyone dating Anthony Weiner…” + Pompeo Maximus promptly announced that the “soft” approach to Russia was over, then bragged about the US killing 400 Russian mercenaries in Syria. Diplomacy by predator drone. + Pompeo Maximus at Thursday’s hearing: Q. Did Trump ever ask you to do anything improper in regard to the Russia probe? A. No. Q. What did Trump ask you to do? A. I don’t recall. + Pompeo’s bombastic performance convinced at least one mouthpiece of the Washington elite, the Bezos Post, which gave him its editorial blessing . + Washington is throbbing with talk about the tragedy of Paul Ryan. But Ryan started out wanting to starve the poor, keep the sick from getting health care and kick elderly people out of their homes and onto the streets. Is it possible to have a tragic fall from the depths of those beginnings? + As he often does, Steve Bannon described Ryan more bluntly: “A limp-dick motherfucker who was born in a petri dish at the Heritage Foundation.” [From Joshua Green’s revealing chronicle of Bannon’s role as Trump’s political Svengali, Devil’s Bargain .] + Rarely has a Congress been so eager to give up the little power that it still retains. Paul Ryan announced his view that Congress has no need to authorize or even debate military action against the Assad regime. James Madison would surely object, pointing the Speaker to Article I, Section 8, Clause 11…Read it again, Ryan. Once upon a time you & your gang pledged to uphold it. All those Federalist Society junkets these congressional hucksters went on from Key Biscayne to Jackson Hole and none of them ever took the time to read the Federalist Papers. + If Trump launches cruise missiles on Syria to distract from the Stormy/Cohen saga, he will once again be following the template of the president he most resembles, Bill Clinton … + The French claim they’ve unearthed proof that Assad was responsible for the Douma chemical weapons attack. If so, there’s still no international or constitutional authority for a strike on the Syrian regime. Any military strike will constitute a de facto war crime, at least as grievous as the one they are allegedly responding to… + Hundreds of thousands of Resisters© have signed a pledge to take to the streets if Trump fires Robert Mueller, but where are the people signing up to stop Trump from firing another 60 cruise missiles into Syria? The firing of Mueller may or may not happen. In fact, it’s increasingly unlikely, because Republicans are freaking out that the sacking of Mueller might cost them both the Senate and the House in the upcoming midterm elections. There’s a moral danger to the nation when the Constitution and international law are flouted to commit murder in our name. Trump has vowed to strike Syria in brazen violation of international law. The streets should fill with protesters intent on stopping it. It is, of course, possible, even obligatory, to protest both. + Number of Syrian refugees: 5 million, more or less. Number of Syrian refugees admitted to the United States: 2016: 15,479 2017: 3,024 2018: 11 + Fresh from a dinner with Trump at the White House, where he says he advised the President on Middle East policy (heads up Syria, look out Iran), Alan Dershowitz, who seems to be angling for a position on Trump’s defense team, denounced Robert Mueller in the friendly confines of the Sean Hannity Show , charging that special prosecutors can “manipulate crimes against anybody.” + In fact, the batting average for Special Counsels is really pretty paltry. Archibald Cox was fired, Nixon resigned and was pardoned before Leon Jaworski could indictment or issue a report, Ken Starr flopped, Patrick Fitzgerald failed to indict Karl Rove and saw Scooter Libby’s sentence commuted. Lawrence Walsh prepared iron-tight cases against the Iran/contra cabal and had the convictions of Oliver North and John Poindexter overturned and Cap Weinberger pardoned by George HW Bush. The original Left, of course, germinated under the protective cover of a special prosecutor named Antoine Fouquier de Tinville , from whose immaculate judgments there was no appeal… + Speaking of Scooter Libby, Trump is preparing to pardon the neocon martyr just as he prepares to commit fresh war crimes in the Middle East. Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor, who won Libby’s conviction on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice in the Valerie Plame affair, was appointed by…James Comey . (A not-so-covert signal to Trump’s co-conspirators to hang tough and they will be saved?) + Despair no more, Tiffany, you may not be the only neglected Trump offsprin g… + IDF: Israel’s Depraved Forces…After a sniper shot an unarmed Palestinian protester in Gaza, another soldier praised his “legendary clip .” + Gazans and born poor, born occupied, born targets, and, according to Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman, born guilty … + How rancid has MSDNC become? On the day North Korea re-committed to putting de-nuclearization on the table, the “prime time bomber” network runs this… + Cruelty as Policy: In a matter of days, Trump signed an executive order requiring burdensome work requirements for mothers on welfare and announced his plans to make food stamp recipients undergo drug screening . (Trump once licensed his name to a urine testing company .) + There’s never been a “war on poverty ,” just “war on the poor” by other means…. + It turns out that most of the brunt from NAFTA was borne by working-class married women , whose wage growth was 33 percent less than men doing similar work. + Trump is considering rejoining the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact which he withdrew from with great fanfare on his first day in office, proving once again that while the president might not be as smart as a photon, he can often be found in two places at once…If he actually moves forward with this plan, Trump will have undone his greatest achievement as president. + The president was enraged by the FBI’s raid on Michael Cohen’s offices and apartment, but hasn’t Trump been one of the biggest champions of No-Knock Raids? Well, how do you like it now, Donald? If the Cohen raid has you uptight, wait until the FBI starts Stopping-and-Frisking White House staffers & cabinet members on their nightly migrations to Le Diplomate… + Where were the rightwing defenders of attorney-client privilege when the Bush administration jailed Lynne Stewart ? + Stop infantilizing Mark Zuckerberg as a mere boy, they say , but he did require a booster cushion for his senate testimony. + The following Senate Judiciary Committee members who grilled Zuckerberg on privacy also voted to expand NSA spying on Americans… -Chuck Grassley -Dianne Feinstein -Orrin Hatch -Sheldon Whitehouse -Lindsey Graham -John Cornyn -Ted Cruz -Ben Sasse -Jeff Flake -Thom Tillis -John Kennedy -Amy Klobuchar + They’ll call you… + As one of his “reforms,” Zuckerberg is planning to turn over academic research on FaceBook data usage to the….Charles Koch Foundation . Feel better now, Facebookers? + The Republicans sure have come a long way since John Ashcroft draped two statues of Lady Justice under black cloth because he got uptight about her breasts… + In the latest betrayal from the man Ishmael Reed dubbed the Boho Gov (in his great book on Oakland, Blues City ), Jerry Brown is bowing to Trump and sending 400 National Guard troops to the border. Meanwhile, in Oregon, Kate Brown is holding firm… + The Jerry & DiFi Show rolls on… + The biggest threat to Scott Pruitt’s (job) security is apparently the EPA staffer who revealed there were no known threats to Scott Pruitt’s security. He has been dealt with in customary fashion … + The spoils of big oil…400 violations by the oil & gas industry in only three years by rigs off the California coast. + New Study: Cancer risks are 8 times higher for people living near oil & gas rigs… + The snowpack in the Colorado Rockies is only 66 percent of normal , presaging region-wide water shortages and new drought. Meanwhile, the National Park Service has stripped any mention of human responsibility for climate change from all of its publications. + Arizona is running out of water. The state is entering its twentieth year of drought and the conditions are intensifying. Much of the state is now experiencing extreme drought conditions, with minimal rainfall and meager snowpacks. The winter of 2018 has been the driest ever recorded recorded in Arizona. Two major reservoirs in Central Arizona, Cragin and Horseshoe Lake, are nearly empty at a time of year when they should be nearly full. Meanwhile, Lake Foul continues to shrink, ceding back a bit of Glen Canyon with each declining acre foot. The spring-summer runoff into the reservoir is expected to be only 43 percent of normal , making it the sixth worst water year in the infamous lake’s history. It’s quaint that Trump believes the worst problem confronting the southwest are a few thousand desperate people crossing the border. + Donny Youngblood, who has served as sheriff of Kern County, California since 2006, was caught on tape explaining his theory of cost-conscious policing : “When a deputy shoots somebody, which way is better financially? To cripple them or kill them for the county? Because if you cripple them you have to take care of them for life and that cost goes way up.” In 2015, Kern County police killed 13 people, four more than were killed by the NYPD in the same year. + Serious question: Does the NYT pay David Brooks to write columns like this (“Renaissance on the Right “) or does Brooks pay the NYT to run them? + I have to spend 8 hours on a plane zigzagging across the continent to Indiana this weekend and there’s no good political smut to read. Where’s Kitty Kelley when you really need her? Comey’s pious revenge saga sounds like a bore. I want Kelley digging through Trump’s dirty linens. Most people don’t remember that she exposed Ronald Reagan as a rapist. In 1952, when he was president of the Screen Actors Guild (and ratting out screenwriters, actors & directors to Hoover and Joe McCarthy), Reagan showed up at the house of Selene Walters, a young actress, at 3 AM, threw her down on a couch and raped her. And they still named National Airport after him… + Speaking of airports, those bathroom hand-driers are actually vacuuming up fecal particles from traveler’s hands and spraying them back on yours, thus lending weight to Alexander Cockburn’s once quaint, now prescient, notion that an unwashed hand is a healthy hand… Alexander Cockburn: “People on the left spend a lot more time than they should complaining about the mainstream papers, most particularly the New York Times. They fume at the breakfast table, and often in print, or on the airwaves, bitterly decrying falsities in the ‘paper of record.’ What do they expect? In fact, they should rejoice when the Times gets things wrong, which it mostly does, and take it as a singular event when it blunders into accuracy.” ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kmedina67 at gmail.com Sun Apr 15 00:08:08 2018 From: kmedina67 at gmail.com (kmedina67) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 19:08:08 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5ad297ea.8a8c6b0a.779cb.71c9@mx.google.com> It was great to see so many people i knew and did not know demonstrating at 5pm today! Thanks for doing it on behalf of all of us... so sorry I could not be there.  As for criticism and who Trump did this bombing of Syria for, yes he did it to improve his approval ratings -- that is the one thing he is consistent about (boo neo liberals who he just won over). Of all the presidents who would not do something simply because the pentagon supported it, I honestly think that Trump would say "no" if he had wanted to. He did not want to say "no." I believe he would bomb just about anyone anywhere if it would give him more news coverage and higher approval ratings.  -Karen Medina -------- Original message --------From: Karen Aram Date: 4/14/18 08:38 (GMT-06:00) To: David Johnson Cc: Mildred O'brien , Karen Medina , Peace Discuss , C G Estabrook Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria I share David Johnson’s analysis of the US President, short and to the point, no matter who the President maybe, no matter what Party, within our two Party system, they represent.  They are owned by the Corporate elites, along with the Pentagon, CIA, Think Tanks, Contractors, etc. It’s called “capitalism” and “imperialism" is the late stage of capitalism. We are here now. “Syria” has been on the planning board for at least fifteen years, along with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Iran, one way or another.  if they can’t have regime change, they will partition. Our western allies, will share in the spoils of war, along with KSA, Qatar, and Israel.  On Apr 14, 2018, at 05:54, David Johnson via Peace-discuss wrote: Trump ( or any other President in recent history won’t fart unless they have the approval or are told to by the ruling class oligarchy.   David J.   From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:51 AM To: kmedina67 at gmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria   Guess Trump REALLY IS THE PRESIDENT--just like he said (pinching himself) "I AM the President" (now you'd better believe it!)  Look for his approval ratings in U.S. to soar   MO'B -----Original Message----- From: kmedina67 via Peace-discuss To: Peace-discuss List Sent: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 9:06 pm Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order  to bomb Syria came from.        -------- Original message -------- From: C G Estabrook    The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century.  What would be the popular response to a 'shock and awe' invasion of Syria, a la Iraq? —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 15 00:14:32 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:14:32 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria In-Reply-To: <5ad297ea.8a8c6b0a.779cb.71c9@mx.google.com> References: <5ad297ea.8a8c6b0a.779cb.71c9@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Yeah, Trump is an archetypal Chickenhawk In Chief—like Bush Junior, the NeoCons, Clinton and the NeoLibs. And of course Ronnie Reagan, who bugged out on World War II along with his good friend John Wayne. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of kmedina67 via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:08 PM To: Peace Discuss Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria It was great to see so many people i knew and did not know demonstrating at 5pm today! Thanks for doing it on behalf of all of us... so sorry I could not be there. As for criticism and who Trump did this bombing of Syria for, yes he did it to improve his approval ratings -- that is the one thing he is consistent about (boo neo liberals who he just won over). Of all the presidents who would not do something simply because the pentagon supported it, I honestly think that Trump would say "no" if he had wanted to. He did not want to say "no." I believe he would bomb just about anyone anywhere if it would give him more news coverage and higher approval ratings. -Karen Medina -------- Original message -------- From: Karen Aram > Date: 4/14/18 08:38 (GMT-06:00) To: David Johnson > Cc: Mildred O'brien >, Karen Medina >, Peace Discuss >, C G Estabrook > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria I share David Johnson’s analysis of the US President, short and to the point, no matter who the President maybe, no matter what Party, within our two Party system, they represent. They are owned by the Corporate elites, along with the Pentagon, CIA, Think Tanks, Contractors, etc. It’s called “capitalism” and “imperialism" is the late stage of capitalism. We are here now. “Syria” has been on the planning board for at least fifteen years, along with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Iran, one way or another. if they can’t have regime change, they will partition. Our western allies, will share in the spoils of war, along with KSA, Qatar, and Israel. On Apr 14, 2018, at 05:54, David Johnson via Peace-discuss > wrote: Trump ( or any other President in recent history won’t fart unless they have the approval or are told to by the ruling class oligarchy. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:51 AM To: kmedina67 at gmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Guess Trump REALLY IS THE PRESIDENT--just like he said (pinching himself) "I AM the President" (now you'd better believe it!) Look for his approval ratings in U.S. to soar MO'B -----Original Message----- From: kmedina67 via Peace-discuss > To: Peace-discuss List > Sent: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 9:06 pm Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order to bomb Syria came from. -------- Original message -------- From: C G Estabrook The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. What would be the popular response to a 'shock and awe' invasion of Syria, a la Iraq? —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kmedina67 at gmail.com Sun Apr 15 00:44:17 2018 From: kmedina67 at gmail.com (kmedina67) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 19:44:17 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5ad2a063.86a96b0a.d9fd0.85b0@mx.google.com> Good point, they are always willing to send the troops but something like bone spurs would keep them out of service -Karen Medina -------- Original message --------From: "Boyle, Francis A" Date: 4/14/18 19:14 (GMT-06:00) To: kmedina67 , Peace Discuss Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Yeah, Trump is an archetypal Chickenhawk In Chief—like Bush Junior, the NeoCons, Clinton and the NeoLibs. And of course Ronnie Reagan, who bugged out on World War II along with his good friend John Wayne. Fab.   Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only)   From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of kmedina67 via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:08 PM To: Peace Discuss Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria   It was great to see so many people i knew and did not know demonstrating at 5pm today! Thanks for doing it on behalf of all of us... so sorry I could not be there.    As for criticism and who Trump did this bombing of Syria for, yes he did it to improve his approval ratings -- that is the one thing he is consistent about (boo neo liberals who he just won over).   Of all the presidents who would not do something simply because the pentagon supported it, I honestly think that Trump would say "no" if he had wanted to. He did not want to say "no." I believe he would bomb just about anyone anywhere if it would give him more news coverage and higher approval ratings.    -Karen Medina     -------- Original message -------- From: Karen Aram Date: 4/14/18 08:38 (GMT-06:00) To: David Johnson Cc: Mildred O'brien , Karen Medina , Peace Discuss , C G Estabrook Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria   I share David Johnson’s analysis of the US President, short and to the point, no matter who the President maybe, no matter what Party, within our two Party system, they represent.    They are owned by the Corporate elites, along with the Pentagon, CIA, Think Tanks, Contractors, etc. It’s called “capitalism” and “imperialism" is the late stage of capitalism. We are here now.   “Syria” has been on the planning board for at least fifteen years, along with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Iran, one way or another.    if they can’t have regime change, they will partition. Our western allies, will share in the spoils of war, along with KSA, Qatar, and Israel.      On Apr 14, 2018, at 05:54, David Johnson via Peace-discuss wrote:   Trump ( or any other President in recent history won’t fart unless they have the approval or are told to by the ruling class oligarchy.   David J.   From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:51 AM To: kmedina67 at gmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria   Guess Trump REALLY IS THE PRESIDENT--just like he said (pinching himself) "I AM the President" (now you'd better believe it!)  Look for his approval ratings in U.S. to soar   MO'B -----Original Message----- From: kmedina67 via Peace-discuss To: Peace-discuss List Sent: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 9:06 pm Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order  to bomb Syria came from.        -------- Original message -------- From: C G Estabrook    The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century.  What would be the popular response to a 'shock and awe' invasion of Syria, a la Iraq? —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss   -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 15 00:48:31 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:48:31 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria In-Reply-To: <5ad2a063.86a96b0a.d9fd0.85b0@mx.google.com> References: <5ad2a063.86a96b0a.d9fd0.85b0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Yeah, but you can certainly play 18 holes of golf once or twice every weekend with bone spurs. QED. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of kmedina67 via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:44 PM To: Peace Discuss Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Good point, they are always willing to send the troops but something like bone spurs would keep them out of service -Karen Medina -------- Original message -------- From: "Boyle, Francis A" > Date: 4/14/18 19:14 (GMT-06:00) To: kmedina67 >, Peace Discuss > Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Yeah, Trump is an archetypal Chickenhawk In Chief—like Bush Junior, the NeoCons, Clinton and the NeoLibs. And of course Ronnie Reagan, who bugged out on World War II along with his good friend John Wayne. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of kmedina67 via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:08 PM To: Peace Discuss > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria It was great to see so many people i knew and did not know demonstrating at 5pm today! Thanks for doing it on behalf of all of us... so sorry I could not be there. As for criticism and who Trump did this bombing of Syria for, yes he did it to improve his approval ratings -- that is the one thing he is consistent about (boo neo liberals who he just won over). Of all the presidents who would not do something simply because the pentagon supported it, I honestly think that Trump would say "no" if he had wanted to. He did not want to say "no." I believe he would bomb just about anyone anywhere if it would give him more news coverage and higher approval ratings. -Karen Medina -------- Original message -------- From: Karen Aram > Date: 4/14/18 08:38 (GMT-06:00) To: David Johnson > Cc: Mildred O'brien >, Karen Medina >, Peace Discuss >, C G Estabrook > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria I share David Johnson’s analysis of the US President, short and to the point, no matter who the President maybe, no matter what Party, within our two Party system, they represent. They are owned by the Corporate elites, along with the Pentagon, CIA, Think Tanks, Contractors, etc. It’s called “capitalism” and “imperialism" is the late stage of capitalism. We are here now. “Syria” has been on the planning board for at least fifteen years, along with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Iran, one way or another. if they can’t have regime change, they will partition. Our western allies, will share in the spoils of war, along with KSA, Qatar, and Israel. On Apr 14, 2018, at 05:54, David Johnson via Peace-discuss > wrote: Trump ( or any other President in recent history won’t fart unless they have the approval or are told to by the ruling class oligarchy. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:51 AM To: kmedina67 at gmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Guess Trump REALLY IS THE PRESIDENT--just like he said (pinching himself) "I AM the President" (now you'd better believe it!) Look for his approval ratings in U.S. to soar MO'B -----Original Message----- From: kmedina67 via Peace-discuss > To: Peace-discuss List > Sent: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 9:06 pm Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order to bomb Syria came from. -------- Original message -------- From: C G Estabrook The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. What would be the popular response to a 'shock and awe' invasion of Syria, a la Iraq? —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Apr 15 01:38:37 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 01:38:37 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria In-Reply-To: <5ad297ea.8a8c6b0a.779cb.71c9@mx.google.com> References: <5ad297ea.8a8c6b0a.779cb.71c9@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Karen You were there? Wish you could have joined us. It was truly terrific. My estimate is close to thirty people, about eight of us were AWARE, and for those like Stuart, Don, Anne, and Doug who put in two hours demonstrating on behalf of AWARE before joining the PSL/ANSWER march, it was a long day. Some of us did AWARE but only put in one hour. John Howard drove in from Argenta. The rest were PSL folks. Great signs, great chants, great speakers in the park before the march. And, a great audience marching from the park to the News Gazette Bldg. and on to the crossing between University and Walnut streets, where we had quite an audience given the Saturday evening traffic at that spot. It did not rain, and Stuart filmed it all. Hopefully we can see it on Utube soon. On Apr 14, 2018, at 17:08, kmedina67 via Peace-discuss > wrote: It was great to see so many people i knew and did not know demonstrating at 5pm today! Thanks for doing it on behalf of all of us... so sorry I could not be there. As for criticism and who Trump did this bombing of Syria for, yes he did it to improve his approval ratings -- that is the one thing he is consistent about (boo neo liberals who he just won over). Of all the presidents who would not do something simply because the pentagon supported it, I honestly think that Trump would say "no" if he had wanted to. He did not want to say "no." I believe he would bomb just about anyone anywhere if it would give him more news coverage and higher approval ratings. -Karen Medina -------- Original message -------- From: Karen Aram > Date: 4/14/18 08:38 (GMT-06:00) To: David Johnson > Cc: Mildred O'brien >, Karen Medina >, Peace Discuss >, C G Estabrook > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria I share David Johnson’s analysis of the US President, short and to the point, no matter who the President maybe, no matter what Party, within our two Party system, they represent. They are owned by the Corporate elites, along with the Pentagon, CIA, Think Tanks, Contractors, etc. It’s called “capitalism” and “imperialism" is the late stage of capitalism. We are here now. “Syria” has been on the planning board for at least fifteen years, along with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Iran, one way or another. if they can’t have regime change, they will partition. Our western allies, will share in the spoils of war, along with KSA, Qatar, and Israel. On Apr 14, 2018, at 05:54, David Johnson via Peace-discuss > wrote: Trump ( or any other President in recent history won’t fart unless they have the approval or are told to by the ruling class oligarchy. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:51 AM To: kmedina67 at gmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Guess Trump REALLY IS THE PRESIDENT--just like he said (pinching himself) "I AM the President" (now you'd better believe it!) Look for his approval ratings in U.S. to soar MO'B -----Original Message----- From: kmedina67 via Peace-discuss > To: Peace-discuss List > Sent: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 9:06 pm Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order to bomb Syria came from. -------- Original message -------- From: C G Estabrook The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. 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URL: From brussel at illinois.edu Sun Apr 15 02:08:25 2018 From: brussel at illinois.edu (Brussel, Morton K) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 02:08:25 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Counterpunch In-Reply-To: <708DE2C1-F411-4A30-9B34-C0D070138C6F@gmail.com> References: <708DE2C1-F411-4A30-9B34-C0D070138C6F@gmail.com> Message-ID: "+ I have no idea who was behind the ghastly chemical weapons attack in Douma. But I do know that prolonged wars make these kinds of atrocities almost inevitable, even by armies which are on the verge of victory: Wounded Knee, Dresden, Nagasaki, Grozny, Fallujah." So, he(?) too believes the propaganda? That isn’t important? He begs the questio, by saying "So what". On Apr 14, 2018, at 5:08 PM, C G Estabrook > wrote: On Apr 14, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss > wrote: Counterpunch authors (Cockburn, Cohen, Goodman in recent articles) seem to have bought into the US-UK-France-… tale that Syria (and Russia) used chemical weapons in Syria (and England). Watch, instead arevealing interview from England: https://youtu.be/F0ds2TUpB4M From the editor of Counterpunch: + I have no idea who was behind the ghastly chemical weapons attack in Douma. But I do know that prolonged wars make these kinds of atrocities almost inevitable, even by armies which are on the verge of victory: Wounded Knee, Dresden, Nagasaki, Grozny, Fallujah. So what is the response of the foreign policy elites, both Republican and Democrat? More war, more massacres… + Here’s an idea, Donald. Boast all you want about how smart your bombs are. How powerful they are. And when you’re going to launch them and how big the craters will be …. then don’t do it. Millions will back your crafty deception. + Before testifying at his Senate confirmation hearings, Mike Pompeo Maximus consulted with Hillary Clinton on how to handle himself as Secretary of State. HRC to Pompeo: “First bomb the hell out of Syria, launch a few cruise missiles at Tehran and then send NATO into Crimea. Pick up the phone by at least the second ring whenever Bibi calls. Never send emails to anyone dating Anthony Weiner…” + Pompeo Maximus promptly announced that the “soft” approach to Russia was over, then bragged about the US killing 400 Russian mercenaries in Syria. Diplomacy by predator drone. + Pompeo Maximus at Thursday’s hearing: Q. Did Trump ever ask you to do anything improper in regard to the Russia probe? A. No. Q. What did Trump ask you to do? A. I don’t recall. + Pompeo’s bombastic performance convinced at least one mouthpiece of the Washington elite, the Bezos Post, which gave him its editorial blessing. + Washington is throbbing with talk about the tragedy of Paul Ryan. But Ryan started out wanting to starve the poor, keep the sick from getting health care and kick elderly people out of their homes and onto the streets. Is it possible to have a tragic fall from the depths of those beginnings? + As he often does, Steve Bannon described Ryan more bluntly: “A limp-dick motherfucker who was born in a petri dish at the Heritage Foundation.” [From Joshua Green’s revealing chronicle of Bannon’s role as Trump’s political Svengali, Devil’s Bargain.] + Rarely has a Congress been so eager to give up the little power that it still retains. Paul Ryan announced his view that Congress has no need to authorize or even debate military action against the Assad regime. James Madison would surely object, pointing the Speaker to Article I, Section 8, Clause 11…Read it again, Ryan. Once upon a time you & your gang pledged to uphold it. All those Federalist Society junkets these congressional hucksters went on from Key Biscayne to Jackson Hole and none of them ever took the time to read the Federalist Papers. + If Trump launches cruise missiles on Syria to distract from the Stormy/Cohen saga, he will once again be following the template of the president he most resembles, Bill Clinton… + The French claim they’ve unearthed proof that Assad was responsible for the Douma chemical weapons attack. If so, there’s still no international or constitutional authority for a strike on the Syrian regime. Any military strike will constitute a de facto war crime, at least as grievous as the one they are allegedly responding to… + Hundreds of thousands of Resisters© have signed a pledge to take to the streets if Trump fires Robert Mueller, but where are the people signing up to stop Trump from firing another 60 cruise missiles into Syria? The firing of Mueller may or may not happen. In fact, it’s increasingly unlikely, because Republicans are freaking out that the sacking of Mueller might cost them both the Senate and the House in the upcoming midterm elections. There’s a moral danger to the nation when the Constitution and international law are flouted to commit murder in our name. Trump has vowed to strike Syria in brazen violation of international law. The streets should fill with protesters intent on stopping it. It is, of course, possible, even obligatory, to protest both. + Number of Syrian refugees: 5 million, more or less. Number of Syrian refugees admitted to the United States: 2016: 15,479 2017: 3,024 2018: 11 + Fresh from a dinner with Trump at the White House, where he says he advised the President on Middle East policy (heads up Syria, look out Iran), Alan Dershowitz, who seems to be angling for a position on Trump’s defense team, denounced Robert Mueller in the friendly confines of the Sean Hannity Show, charging that special prosecutors can “manipulate crimes against anybody.” + In fact, the batting average for Special Counsels is really pretty paltry. Archibald Cox was fired, Nixon resigned and was pardoned before Leon Jaworski could indictment or issue a report, Ken Starr flopped, Patrick Fitzgerald failed to indict Karl Rove and saw Scooter Libby’s sentence commuted. Lawrence Walsh prepared iron-tight cases against the Iran/contra cabal and had the convictions of Oliver North and John Poindexter overturned and Cap Weinberger pardoned by George HW Bush. The original Left, of course, germinated under the protective cover of a special prosecutor named Antoine Fouquier de Tinville, from whose immaculate judgments there was no appeal… + Speaking of Scooter Libby, Trump is preparing to pardon the neocon martyr just as he prepares to commit fresh war crimes in the Middle East. Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor, who won Libby’s conviction on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice in the Valerie Plame affair, was appointed by…James Comey. (A not-so-covert signal to Trump’s co-conspirators to hang tough and they will be saved?) + Despair no more, Tiffany, you may not be the only neglected Trump offspring… + IDF: Israel’s Depraved Forces…After a sniper shot an unarmed Palestinian protester in Gaza, another soldier praised his “legendary clip.” + Gazans and born poor, born occupied, born targets, and, according to Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman, born guilty… + How rancid has MSDNC become? On the day North Korea re-committed to putting de-nuclearization on the table, the “prime time bomber” network runs this… [https://uziiw38pmyg1ai60732c4011-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/dropzone/2018/04/msdncnuke-510x382.jpg] + Cruelty as Policy: In a matter of days, Trump signed an executive order requiring burdensome work requirements for mothers on welfare and announced his plans to make food stamp recipients undergo drug screening. (Trump once licensed his name to a urine testing company.) + There’s never been a “war on poverty,” just “war on the poor” by other means…. + It turns out that most of the brunt from NAFTA was borne by working-class married women, whose wage growth was 33 percent less than men doing similar work. + Trump is considering rejoining the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact which he withdrew from with great fanfare on his first day in office, proving once again that while the president might not be as smart as a photon, he can often be found in two places at once…If he actually moves forward with this plan, Trump will have undone his greatest achievement as president. + The president was enraged by the FBI’s raid on Michael Cohen’s offices and apartment, but hasn’t Trump been one of the biggest champions of No-Knock Raids? Well, how do you like it now, Donald? If the Cohen raid has you uptight, wait until the FBI starts Stopping-and-Frisking White House staffers & cabinet members on their nightly migrations to Le Diplomate… + Where were the rightwing defenders of attorney-client privilege when the Bush administration jailed Lynne Stewart? + Stop infantilizing Mark Zuckerberg as a mere boy, they say, but he did require a booster cushion for his senate testimony. + The following Senate Judiciary Committee members who grilled Zuckerberg on privacy also voted to expand NSA spying on Americans… -Chuck Grassley -Dianne Feinstein -Orrin Hatch -Sheldon Whitehouse -Lindsey Graham -John Cornyn -Ted Cruz -Ben Sasse -Jeff Flake -Thom Tillis -John Kennedy -Amy Klobuchar + They’ll call you… [https://uziiw38pmyg1ai60732c4011-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/dropzone/2018/04/DaLK_LyW4AAuK5U-510x503.jpg] + As one of his “reforms,” Zuckerberg is planning to turn over academic research on FaceBook data usage to the….Charles Koch Foundation. Feel better now, Facebookers? + The Republicans sure have come a long way since John Ashcroft draped two statues of Lady Justice under black cloth because he got uptight about her breasts… + In the latest betrayal from the man Ishmael Reed dubbed the Boho Gov (in his great book on Oakland, Blues City), Jerry Brown is bowing to Trump and sending 400 National Guard troops to the border. Meanwhile, in Oregon, Kate Brown is holding firm… + The Jerry & DiFi Show rolls on… + The biggest threat to Scott Pruitt’s (job) security is apparently the EPA staffer who revealed there were no known threats to Scott Pruitt’s security. He has been dealt with in customary fashion… + The spoils of big oil…400 violations by the oil & gas industry in only three years by rigs off the California coast. + New Study: Cancer risks are 8 times higher for people living near oil & gas rigs… + The snowpack in the Colorado Rockies is only 66 percent of normal, presaging region-wide water shortages and new drought. Meanwhile, the National Park Service has stripped any mention of human responsibility for climate change from all of its publications. + Arizona is running out of water. The state is entering its twentieth year of drought and the conditions are intensifying. Much of the state is now experiencing extreme drought conditions, with minimal rainfall and meager snowpacks. The winter of 2018 has been the driest ever recorded recorded in Arizona. Two major reservoirs in Central Arizona, Cragin and Horseshoe Lake, are nearly empty at a time of year when they should be nearly full. Meanwhile, Lake Foul continues to shrink, ceding back a bit of Glen Canyon with each declining acre foot. The spring-summer runoff into the reservoir is expected to be only 43 percent of normal, making it the sixth worst water year in the infamous lake’s history. It’s quaint that Trump believes the worst problem confronting the southwest are a few thousand desperate people crossing the border. [https://uziiw38pmyg1ai60732c4011-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/dropzone/2018/04/arizonadrought.image_-510x394.jpg] + Donny Youngblood, who has served as sheriff of Kern County, California since 2006, was caught on tape explaining his theory of cost-conscious policing: “When a deputy shoots somebody, which way is better financially? To cripple them or kill them for the county? Because if you cripple them you have to take care of them for life and that cost goes way up.” In 2015, Kern County police killed 13 people, four more than were killed by the NYPD in the same year. + Serious question: Does the NYT pay David Brooks to write columns like this (“Renaissance on the Right“) or does Brooks pay the NYT to run them? + I have to spend 8 hours on a plane zigzagging across the continent to Indiana this weekend and there’s no good political smut to read. Where’s Kitty Kelley when you really need her? Comey’s pious revenge saga sounds like a bore. I want Kelley digging through Trump’s dirty linens. Most people don’t remember that she exposed Ronald Reagan as a rapist. In 1952, when he was president of the Screen Actors Guild (and ratting out screenwriters, actors & directors to Hoover and Joe McCarthy), Reagan showed up at the house of Selene Walters, a young actress, at 3 AM, threw her down on a couch and raped her. And they still named National Airport after him… + Speaking of airports, those bathroom hand-driers are actually vacuuming up fecal particles from traveler’s hands and spraying them back on yours, thus lending weight to Alexander Cockburn’s once quaint, now prescient, notion that an unwashed hand is a healthy hand… Alexander Cockburn: “People on the left spend a lot more time than they should complaining about the mainstream papers, most particularly the New York Times. They fume at the breakfast table, and often in print, or on the airwaves, bitterly decrying falsities in the ‘paper of record.’ What do they expect? In fact, they should rejoice when the Times gets things wrong, which it mostly does, and take it as a singular event when it blunders into accuracy.” ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markrichey at earthlink.net Sun Apr 15 06:11:53 2018 From: markrichey at earthlink.net (Mark Richey) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 23:11:53 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Message-ID: <1593423883.8704.1523772713357@wamui-abby.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Sun Apr 15 12:44:02 2018 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 07:44:02 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria In-Reply-To: References: <5ad297ea.8a8c6b0a.779cb.71c9@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <002901d3d4b7$6f560b50$4e0221f0$@comcast.net> If Stuart could send me a link I will show it on UPTV on Labor’s World View ( every Sunday from 4-5 PM ). Sorry I couldn’t make it. I will be there next time and on Monday I will attend the ANSWER coalition meeting in the Family Room of the IMC at 7 PM. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:39 PM To: kmedina67 Cc: Peace Discuss Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Karen You were there? Wish you could have joined us. It was truly terrific. My estimate is close to thirty people, about eight of us were AWARE, and for those like Stuart, Don, Anne, and Doug who put in two hours demonstrating on behalf of AWARE before joining the PSL/ANSWER march, it was a long day. Some of us did AWARE but only put in one hour. John Howard drove in from Argenta. The rest were PSL folks. Great signs, great chants, great speakers in the park before the march. And, a great audience marching from the park to the News Gazette Bldg. and on to the crossing between University and Walnut streets, where we had quite an audience given the Saturday evening traffic at that spot. It did not rain, and Stuart filmed it all. Hopefully we can see it on Utube soon. On Apr 14, 2018, at 17:08, kmedina67 via Peace-discuss wrote: It was great to see so many people i knew and did not know demonstrating at 5pm today! Thanks for doing it on behalf of all of us... so sorry I could not be there. As for criticism and who Trump did this bombing of Syria for, yes he did it to improve his approval ratings -- that is the one thing he is consistent about (boo neo liberals who he just won over). Of all the presidents who would not do something simply because the pentagon supported it, I honestly think that Trump would say "no" if he had wanted to. He did not want to say "no." I believe he would bomb just about anyone anywhere if it would give him more news coverage and higher approval ratings. -Karen Medina -------- Original message -------- From: Karen Aram Date: 4/14/18 08:38 (GMT-06:00) To: David Johnson Cc: Mildred O'brien , Karen Medina , Peace Discuss , C G Estabrook Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria I share David Johnson’s analysis of the US President, short and to the point, no matter who the President maybe, no matter what Party, within our two Party system, they represent. They are owned by the Corporate elites, along with the Pentagon, CIA, Think Tanks, Contractors, etc. It’s called “capitalism” and “imperialism" is the late stage of capitalism. We are here now. “Syria” has been on the planning board for at least fifteen years, along with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Iran, one way or another. if they can’t have regime change, they will partition. Our western allies, will share in the spoils of war, along with KSA, Qatar, and Israel. On Apr 14, 2018, at 05:54, David Johnson via Peace-discuss wrote: Trump ( or any other President in recent history won’t fart unless they have the approval or are told to by the ruling class oligarchy. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:51 AM To: kmedina67 at gmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Guess Trump REALLY IS THE PRESIDENT--just like he said (pinching himself) "I AM the President" (now you'd better believe it!) Look for his approval ratings in U.S. to soar MO'B -----Original Message----- From: kmedina67 via Peace-discuss To: Peace-discuss List Sent: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 9:06 pm Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order to bomb Syria came from. -------- Original message -------- From: C G Estabrook The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Apr 15 13:06:24 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 13:06:24 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria In-Reply-To: <002901d3d4b7$6f560b50$4e0221f0$@comcast.net> References: <5ad297ea.8a8c6b0a.779cb.71c9@mx.google.com> <002901d3d4b7$6f560b50$4e0221f0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: David Thank you, we would really appreciate it being viewed on Labor’s World View. Jason will provide me the link when its uploaded to U Tube, Though Stuart often is able to reduce the link for better provision. I promised it to Mike of the PSL first, as this was their project. On Apr 15, 2018, at 05:44, David Johnson > wrote: If Stuart could send me a link I will show it on UPTV on Labor’s World View ( every Sunday from 4-5 PM ). Sorry I couldn’t make it. I will be there next time and on Monday I will attend the ANSWER coalition meeting in the Family Room of the IMC at 7 PM. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:39 PM To: kmedina67 Cc: Peace Discuss Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Karen You were there? Wish you could have joined us. It was truly terrific. My estimate is close to thirty people, about eight of us were AWARE, and for those like Stuart, Don, Anne, and Doug who put in two hours demonstrating on behalf of AWARE before joining the PSL/ANSWER march, it was a long day. Some of us did AWARE but only put in one hour. John Howard drove in from Argenta. The rest were PSL folks. Great signs, great chants, great speakers in the park before the march. And, a great audience marching from the park to the News Gazette Bldg. and on to the crossing between University and Walnut streets, where we had quite an audience given the Saturday evening traffic at that spot. It did not rain, and Stuart filmed it all. Hopefully we can see it on Utube soon. On Apr 14, 2018, at 17:08, kmedina67 via Peace-discuss > wrote: It was great to see so many people i knew and did not know demonstrating at 5pm today! Thanks for doing it on behalf of all of us... so sorry I could not be there. As for criticism and who Trump did this bombing of Syria for, yes he did it to improve his approval ratings -- that is the one thing he is consistent about (boo neo liberals who he just won over). Of all the presidents who would not do something simply because the pentagon supported it, I honestly think that Trump would say "no" if he had wanted to. He did not want to say "no." I believe he would bomb just about anyone anywhere if it would give him more news coverage and higher approval ratings. -Karen Medina -------- Original message -------- From: Karen Aram > Date: 4/14/18 08:38 (GMT-06:00) To: David Johnson > Cc: Mildred O'brien >, Karen Medina >, Peace Discuss >, C G Estabrook > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria I share David Johnson’s analysis of the US President, short and to the point, no matter who the President maybe, no matter what Party, within our two Party system, they represent. They are owned by the Corporate elites, along with the Pentagon, CIA, Think Tanks, Contractors, etc. It’s called “capitalism” and “imperialism" is the late stage of capitalism. We are here now. “Syria” has been on the planning board for at least fifteen years, along with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Iran, one way or another. if they can’t have regime change, they will partition. Our western allies, will share in the spoils of war, along with KSA, Qatar, and Israel. On Apr 14, 2018, at 05:54, David Johnson via Peace-discuss > wrote: Trump ( or any other President in recent history won’t fart unless they have the approval or are told to by the ruling class oligarchy. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:51 AM To: kmedina67 at gmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Guess Trump REALLY IS THE PRESIDENT--just like he said (pinching himself) "I AM the President" (now you'd better believe it!) Look for his approval ratings in U.S. to soar MO'B -----Original Message----- From: kmedina67 via Peace-discuss > To: Peace-discuss List > Sent: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 9:06 pm Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order to bomb Syria came from. -------- Original message -------- From: C G Estabrook The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. What would be the popular response to a 'shock and awe' invasion of Syria, a la Iraq? —CGE _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Sun Apr 15 13:21:31 2018 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 06:21:31 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria In-Reply-To: <5ad297ea.8a8c6b0a.779cb.71c9@mx.google.com> References: <5ad297ea.8a8c6b0a.779cb.71c9@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <76E6028D-D3B0-4530-9212-760157A1918B@illinois.edu> Here’s what seems to have happened: > —CGE > On Apr 14, 2018, at 5:08 PM, kmedina67 via Peace-discuss wrote: > > It was great to see so many people i knew and did not know demonstrating at 5pm today! Thanks for doing it on behalf of all of us... so sorry I could not be there. > > As for criticism and who Trump did this bombing of Syria for, yes he did it to improve his approval ratings -- that is the one thing he is consistent about (boo neo liberals who he just won over). > > Of all the presidents who would not do something simply because the pentagon supported it, I honestly think that Trump would say "no" if he had wanted to. He did not want to say "no." I believe he would bomb just about anyone anywhere if it would give him more news coverage and higher approval ratings. > > -Karen Medina > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Karen Aram > Date: 4/14/18 08:38 (GMT-06:00) > To: David Johnson > Cc: Mildred O'brien , Karen Medina , Peace Discuss , C G Estabrook > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria > > I share David Johnson’s analysis of the US President, short and to the point, no matter who the President maybe, no matter what Party, within our two Party system, they represent. > > They are owned by the Corporate elites, along with the Pentagon, CIA, Think Tanks, Contractors, etc. It’s called “capitalism” and “imperialism" is the late stage of capitalism. We are here now. > > “Syria” has been on the planning board for at least fifteen years, along with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Iran, one way or another. > > if they can’t have regime change, they will partition. Our western allies, will share in the spoils of war, along with KSA, Qatar, and Israel. > > >> On Apr 14, 2018, at 05:54, David Johnson via Peace-discuss > wrote: >> >> Trump ( or any other President in recent history won’t fart unless they have the approval or are told to by the ruling class oligarchy. >> >> David J. >> >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net ] On Behalf Of Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:51 AM >> To: kmedina67 at gmail.com ; peace-discuss at anti-war.net >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria >> >> Guess Trump REALLY IS THE PRESIDENT--just like he said (pinching himself) "I AM the President" (now you'd better believe it!) Look for his approval ratings in U.S. to soar >> >> MO'B >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: kmedina67 via Peace-discuss > >> To: Peace-discuss List > >> Sent: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 9:06 pm >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria >> >> Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order to bomb Syria came from. >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: C G Estabrook >> >> The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. >> >> What would be the popular response to a 'shock and awe' invasion of Syria, a la Iraq? >> >> —CGE >> _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In his entire lifetime, Carl Esterbrook has rightfully blamed every president for their war policies.  Until Trump. Suddenly, war policies are not Trump's war policies, but rather the doing of the pentagon. It has always been both. Trump's reign is not an exception. - Karen-----Original ANF  As for criticism and who Trump did this bombing of Syria for, yes he did it to improve his approval ratings -- that is the one thing he is consistent about (including the neo liberals who he just won over). Of all the presidents who would not do something simply because the pentagon supported it, I honestly think that Trump would say "no" if he had wanted to. He did not want to say "no."  I believe he would bomb just about anyone anywhere if it would give him more news coverage and higher approval ratings.  -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sun Apr 15 16:45:25 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 09:45:25 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The Pentagon and the president Message-ID: <7FE49698-E57A-4E29-83CD-A48A76B1CEEC@gmail.com> ...Showing restraint and control, the US Secretary of Defence James Mattis – he who said “the Pentagon still has no independent evidence to confirm that there was a chemical weapons attack in Syria last week”- contested any wide scale attack on Syria that could have triggered a direct Russian involvement and deadly return of fire against US objectives. Mattis accepted “an honourable strike” to save his boss’s inexperienced face. In point of fact, the trio’s strike on Syria seems have boosted the Syrian Bashar al-Assad’s reputation: the population celebrated in the streets of Damascus, and mocked the western attack on their country! The trio [FUKUS] avoided at all times direct provocation of Russia, circumvented Russian bases and operational theatres instead of overflying. Russia imposed its presence and provoked the US and French navy by carrying out a simulated air attack, to show its willingness to hit back. The Russian navy was positioned opposite the Lebanese coast to cover that angle and avoid blind spots. Moscow managed to avoid a direct confrontation with Washington outside its territory: US military bases surround Syria (Israel, Jordan, al-Tanf, al-Hasaka, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrein, Iraq, Turkey). Russia remembers how Leonid Brezhnev fell into the CIA’s trap in 1979, supporting the Mujahedeen six months prior to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan- trap. Zbigniew Brzezinski said the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was deliberately provoked by the US: “It was an excellent idea. It drew the Soviets into the Afghan war and we gave them Vietnam”. 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The rest were PSL folks. Great signs, great chants, great speakers in the park before the march. And, a great audience marching from the park to the News Gazette Bldg. and on to the crossing between University and Walnut streets, where we had quite an audience given the Saturday evening traffic at that spot. It did not rain, and Stuart filmed it all. Hopefully we can see it on Utube soon. On Apr 14, 2018, at 17:08, kmedina67 via Peace-discuss > wrote: It was great to see so many people i knew and did not know demonstrating at 5pm today! Thanks for doing it on behalf of all of us... so sorry I could not be there. As for criticism and who Trump did this bombing of Syria for, yes he did it to improve his approval ratings -- that is the one thing he is consistent about (boo neo liberals who he just won over). Of all the presidents who would not do something simply because the pentagon supported it, I honestly think that Trump would say "no" if he had wanted to. He did not want to say "no." I believe he would bomb just about anyone anywhere if it would give him more news coverage and higher approval ratings. -Karen Medina -------- Original message -------- From: Karen Aram > Date: 4/14/18 08:38 (GMT-06:00) To: David Johnson > Cc: Mildred O'brien >, Karen Medina >, Peace Discuss >, C G Estabrook > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria I share David Johnson’s analysis of the US President, short and to the point, no matter who the President maybe, no matter what Party, within our two Party system, they represent. They are owned by the Corporate elites, along with the Pentagon, CIA, Think Tanks, Contractors, etc. It’s called “capitalism” and “imperialism" is the late stage of capitalism. We are here now. “Syria” has been on the planning board for at least fifteen years, along with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Iran, one way or another. if they can’t have regime change, they will partition. Our western allies, will share in the spoils of war, along with KSA, Qatar, and Israel. On Apr 14, 2018, at 05:54, David Johnson via Peace-discuss > wrote: Trump ( or any other President in recent history won’t fart unless they have the approval or are told to by the ruling class oligarchy. David J. From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:51 AM To: kmedina67 at gmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Guess Trump REALLY IS THE PRESIDENT--just like he said (pinching himself) "I AM the President" (now you'd better believe it!) Look for his approval ratings in U.S. to soar MO'B -----Original Message----- From: kmedina67 via Peace-discuss > To: Peace-discuss List > Sent: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 9:06 pm Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Invasion of Syria Carl, Unless there has been a military coup d'état, the Pentagon is not where the order to bomb Syria came from. -------- Original message -------- From: C G Estabrook The Pentagon seems to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing this century. 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URL: From bjornsona at ameritech.net Sun Apr 15 20:05:22 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (Anne Bjornson) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 15:05:22 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE meeting yes or no? Sun 4.15.18 at Hammerhead Coffee? In-Reply-To: <7FE49698-E57A-4E29-83CD-A48A76B1CEEC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <24e6e7b7-5ff0-4b4a-8bbc-cfabec49f58b@email.android.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 15 20:35:59 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:35:59 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Syria Strike Should Concern College Students - Higher Education Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:35 PM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: Syria Strike Should Concern College Students - Higher Education http://diverseeducation.com/article/114334/ Syria Strike Should Concern College Students April 15, 2018 | by Emil Guillermo It's been 50 years since the major protests of 1968 that saw U.S. campuses as the focal point for outrage against a multitude of issues: U.S policy in Vietnam, racial inequality in Black communities throughout the U.S. and the general rejection of capitalism and materialism by a broad-based youth counter-culture. We've seen protests in the recent past from Black Lives Matters rallies to the walkouts and mass marches over the Parkland, Florida shootings. But will the recent Trump-led strike on Syria move students to protest? A few of the students I've encountered in my stint as an adjunct this spring semester would identify as "woke." I sure hope the rest of them wake up and understand what's going on with President Trump and Syria and how that impacts their future. Do they want to live while a world war rages and call to duty is more than a video game? Trump, the America-first isolationist, now wants to come out, guns blazing as policeman of the world. Students should be concerned. There should be no doubt that the strikes that took place were illegal and against all major international standards. And if any of them are worked up about Donald Trump's chaotic presidency, the students should understand that more than the Mueller investigation, the Cohen investigation, or Stormy Daniels, the strikes in Syria pose a greater threat to the Trump administration. "It's a clear-cut violation of the United Nations charter," Dr. Francis Boyle, professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law, told me by phone over the weekend. "It's a violation of the War Powers clause of the U.S. Constitution. It's a violation of the War Powers resolution enacted by Congress. This constitutes a Nuremberg crime against peace, and an aggression in violation of the Rome statute of the U.S. criminal court definition. So there's no legality at all that I can tell, just wanton and naked aggression.It's clearly illegal and all these actions by President Trump are certainly impeachable, as well." There's that "I" word. Not going to Congress pre-strike for approval? That's a critical no-no. And impeachable. What about England and France? Along for the ride, said Boyle. "Window dressing," he called it. This was Trump's show. You may not see many people on the mainstream news speaking so bluntly about the strikes. But that's because a different kind of diversity - of political opinion - on even the least conservative and slightly more centrist channels like CNN or MSNBC don't allow for a voice like Boyle's. Who's Boyle? A Harvard J.D. who also holds a Ph.D. in government from Harvard, Boyle went through the same program as Henry Kissinger and was given his office at the Center for International Affairs. He knows what he's talking about. He understands that U.S. foreign policy isn't missionary work. But it doesn't have to be decided with missiles, either. Neither a neo-con or neo-lib, Boyle represents a voice that doesn't get on the news shows much. Where are the voices of peace? Of diplomacy? You don't see them on the mainstream. But they're out there through alternative media networks like the Institute for Public Accuracy. If you want 24-hour warmongering, you could always turn to the mainstream. If you want to hear another view, you'll have to turn to outlets willing to let informed voices like Boyle's break through the echo chamber. Because there is a case for peace and it begins with the rule of law. What of the humanitarian deterrent argument? Boyle says that notion was rejected by the World Court back when Reagan used it as a pretext in Nicaragua. He also points out how the deterrent is far from humanitarian, especially when U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley is on record after the strikes saying the U.S. is "locked and loaded." It's a warning to all that more is to come. The fact that the strikes occurred on the first day on the job for National Security Advisor John Bolton, a neo-con hawk, and you can tell who has Trump's ear going forward. It doesn't bode well for the world. "If this isn't stopped now, this situation could degenerate," Boyle said. "We could end up with Sarajevo 1914. That's how serious it is." That, of course, was the start of World War I. Just as the Balkans were carved up, the same could happen to Syria with all the imperial players drawing lots for the richest oil fields. Lo and behold, the humanitarian motives are trumped by the economic. Judging from the miniscule number of Syrian refugees accepted by the U.S., we should have already known saving people isn't the real focus. Boyle says someone in the House of Representatives should begin drawing up impeachment papers now. That could happen - especially if Congress hears a fervent cry from college campuses, 50 years after the monumental protests of the '60s dared to change the direction of our country. Emil Guillermo is a veteran journalist and commentator who writes for http://www.aaldef.org/blog. Print Friendly, PDF & EmailPrint RELATED ARTICLES >> Howard University Students End Sit-In Protest WASHINGTON - The occupation of a university administration building in Washington, D.C. by students making demands to school officials has ended. 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Not sure about others. > On Apr 15, 2018, at 13:05, Anne Bjornson via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Hello. I missed whether or not there is an AWARE meeting today, Sunday, 4/15/18, at Hammerhead Coffee in Urbana at 5 pm? I think Hammerhead is across the street from World Harvest's previous location at Wright and University, is that correct? > Looking forward to the always- interesting conversation, and btw a closer look at the furniture at Hammerhead. Looks like a combination of Mid-Century Modern and some handmade one- of- a -kind wooden pieces. ... :) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From galliher at illinois.edu Sun Apr 15 23:31:07 2018 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 16:31:07 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE meeting yes or no? Sun 4.15.18 at Hammerhead Coffee? In-Reply-To: References: <24e6e7b7-5ff0-4b4a-8bbc-cfabec49f58b@email.android.com> Message-ID: I’m afraid I won’t be there this week unfortunately with all going on Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 15, 2018, at 2:09 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > I’m not going to make it today Anne. Sorry. Maybe next week. > > Not sure about others. > >> On Apr 15, 2018, at 13:05, Anne Bjornson via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Hello. I missed whether or not there is an AWARE meeting today, Sunday, 4/15/18, at Hammerhead Coffee in Urbana at 5 pm? I think Hammerhead is across the street from World Harvest's previous location at Wright and University, is that correct? >> Looking forward to the always- interesting conversation, and btw a closer look at the furniture at Hammerhead. Looks like a combination of Mid-Century Modern and some handmade one- of- a -kind wooden pieces. ... :) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From bjornsona at ameritech.net Mon Apr 16 00:55:08 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (bjornsona at ameritech.net) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 19:55:08 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE meeting yes or no? Sun 4.15.18 at Hammerhead Coffee? Message-ID: <6k404d2i6g69bmsvcoddehf5.1523839155493@email.lge.com> Doug and I held the meeting! Agreed with all that the events on Saturday seemed to be successes- including less negative feedback and possibly more cheering on than at some other events? It was good to participate with another group. ... A note: Friday April 20 may be another March for Our Lives walkout for students. I hope to follow up on that and if possible stand near a march with a poster connecting "U. S. Gun Violence Won't Disappear Until Corporate Oil Wars Do" . Something like that. Hope things are ok, Carl.  Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------From: Carl G. EstabrookDate: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 6:31 PMTo: Karen Aram;Cc: Anne Bjornson;Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Peace;Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] AWARE meeting yes or no? Sun 4.15.18 at Hammerhead Coffee? I’m afraid I won’t be there this week unfortunately with all going on Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 15, 2018, at 2:09 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > I’m not going to make it today Anne. Sorry. Maybe next week. > > Not sure about others. > >> On Apr 15, 2018, at 13:05, Anne Bjornson via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Hello. I missed whether or not there is an AWARE meeting today, Sunday, 4/15/18, at Hammerhead Coffee in Urbana at 5 pm? I think Hammerhead is across the street from World Harvest's previous location at Wright and University, is that correct? >> Looking forward to the always- interesting conversation, and btw a closer look at the furniture at Hammerhead. Looks like a combination of Mid-Century Modern and some handmade one- of- a -kind wooden pieces. ... :) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Apr 16 03:34:35 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 03:34:35 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE meeting yes or no? Sun 4.15.18 at Hammerhead Coffee? In-Reply-To: <6k404d2i6g69bmsvcoddehf5.1523839155493@email.lge.com> References: <6k404d2i6g69bmsvcoddehf5.1523839155493@email.lge.com> Message-ID: Good for you two. Thank you. I like your idea, connecting domestic with foreign. It’s important. On Apr 15, 2018, at 17:55, bjornsona at ameritech.net wrote: Doug and I held the meeting! Agreed with all that the events on Saturday seemed to be successes- including less negative feedback and possibly more cheering on than at some other events? It was good to participate with another group. ... A note: Friday April 20 may be another March for Our Lives walkout for students. I hope to follow up on that and if possible stand near a march with a poster connecting "U. S. Gun Violence Won't Disappear Until Corporate Oil Wars Do" . Something like that. Hope things are ok, Carl. Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------ From: Carl G. Estabrook Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 6:31 PM To: Karen Aram; Cc: Anne Bjornson;Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Peace; Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] AWARE meeting yes or no? Sun 4.15.18 at Hammerhead Coffee? I’m afraid I won’t be there this week unfortunately with all going on Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 15, 2018, at 2:09 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > I’m not going to make it today Anne. Sorry. Maybe next week. > > Not sure about others. > >> On Apr 15, 2018, at 13:05, Anne Bjornson via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Hello. I missed whether or not there is an AWARE meeting today, Sunday, 4/15/18, at Hammerhead Coffee in Urbana at 5 pm? 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Apr 16 11:31:37 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:31:37 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Missile strikes on Syria heighten danger of a catastrophic war Message-ID: [http://www.wsws.org/img/title.png] [http://www.wsws.org/img/logo.png] Published by the International Committee of the Fourth International (ICFI) Click here for advanced search » * Home * Perspectives * World News * World Economy * Arts Review * History * Science * Philosophy * Workers Struggles * ICFI/Marxist Library * Chronology * Full Archive * Print * Leaflet * Feedback * Share » US-British-French missile strikes on Syria heighten danger of a catastrophic war 16 April 2018 In the immediate aftermath of this weekend’s US-led missile attack on Syria, the preparations for a wider war that could trigger a nuclear catastrophe are being laid. The recklessness of US policy has only increased. Hardly had the smoke cleared from the carnage left by more than 100 cruise missiles than the US ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, was boasting that the US remained “locked and loaded.” On the “Face the Nation” Sunday interview program, Haley said the US troops would remain in Syria and announced that the Trump administration would unveil new sanctions on Monday against Russian firms doing business with Damascus. Russia countered by announcing that it was upgrading Syrian missile defenses. Numerous media commentaries criticized the so-called “limited” attack by US, British and French naval and air forces as inadequate and demanded a more extensive and sustained military offensive. The New York Times quoted Republican Senator Lindsey Graham as saying, “I fear that when the dust settles, this strike will be seen as a weak military response and Assad will have paid a small price…” The Washington Post in its lead editorial Sunday attacked Trump for again hinting at removing US troops from Syria. It pointed to the huge swath of territory in eastern Syria occupied by US troops and American proxy forces and demanded that Trump “further fortify” the US position on the ground in order to force the departure of Syrian Prime Minister Bashar al-Assad. The New York Times’ David Sanger and Ben Hubbard in a front-page article Sunday argued against Pentagon claims that the strikes had seriously damaged Assad’s alleged chemical weapons program. They wrote: “While it is easy to blow up Mr. Assad’s chemical facilities, it is also relatively simple for him to reconstitute them elsewhere, or just turn to a commercially available substance like chlorine to make a poison that any nation is allowed to possess.” The bases for new provocations and fresh pretexts for military aggression are already being laid. If not another staged chemical attack, the next casus belli for war could well be a terrorist attack or an assault on US troops in the Middle East attributed to Assad. For more than 25 years the United States has been engaged in continual warfare, justifying each conflict with bogus claims of committed or imminent atrocities by the targeted country: “weapons of mass destruction” against Iraq, a looming massacre of civilians against Libya, and now gas attacks against Syria. The media campaign in recent weeks against Russia and Syria over alleged poison attacks was an orchestrated operation to provide a suitable pretext for a military attack that was, in fact, planned months ago. The alleged Russian government poisoning of former double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter was followed immediately by the media campaign over the supposed gas attack by the Assad regime on the town of Douma, and then held by US-backed Islamist militias fighting to overthrow the Iranian-and Russian-backed regime. An utterly corrupt and dishonest Western media promoted the government claims without producing any evidence to substantiate them, while it barely noted the evidence produced by Russia and Syria exposing the claims as fraudulent. The attack launched over the weekend was not a response to a gas attack that allegedly occurred a week before. It was a highly coordinated joint strike involving missiles fired from US, French and British naval and air platforms in the Red Sea, the northern Persian Gulf and the Mediterranean. Such an action is not the result of a few days’ planning. Now, in the aftermath, the international geopolitical situation and the internal political crises of the US and the European powers have only grown more explosive. In the US, the preparations for a wider war in the Middle East and the political war against Trump waged by sections of the ruling class and the state have merged into a single process. Defense Secretary James Mattis and the military brass decided to avoid a clash with Russia for now not only out of military considerations, but also political ones. Strikes and rebellions by teachers against the corporatist trade unions are continuing, and the political crisis in Washington is deepening. Sentiment against war is widespread in the working class. Under these conditions, the military has no confidence in Trump’s ability to oversee the actions abroad and at home it deems necessary to overthrow Assad and take on Russia. The neoconservative pundit Max Boot explicitly connected a major expansion of the war in Syria with the removal of Trump in a Washington Post op-ed piece titled “Airstrikes amidst the scandals.” “Just as Bush had no Iraq plan in the spring of 2003, so today Trump has no Syria plan,” he wrote, adding, “If the United States had a parliamentary government, Congress could pass a motion of ‘no confidence,’ thus allowing Trump to devote 100 percent of his attention to fighting the multiplying charges against him without the distraction of running the government.” The New York Times published an editorial written just prior to the missile strikes calling on Congress to pass a new authorization for the use of military force. This push for a new legal justification for war shows that the ruling class is preparing for a much more extensive military intervention. It knows that there will be growing opposition and wants to create a legal framework to criminalize antiwar dissent and ban antiwar speech. In Europe as well, the missile strikes have intensified the internal political and social crisis as well as tensions with America. British Prime Minister Theresa May faces demands for a parliamentary debate on the Syrian attack, with polls showing broad antiwar sentiment and widespread skepticism toward the claims of a chemical attack by Assad. The air strikes have exacerbated popular anger against French President Emmanuel Macron, who faces a wave of rail strikes and escalating student protests. In Germany, sections of the media are using the strikes, which Chancellor Angela Merkel supported but did not directly join, to demand the full-scale rearmament of Germany and a foreign policy less dependent on the US. Indicative of the war fever gripping the German ruling class is a commentary published by Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung editor Berthold Kohler, who wrote: “The selfish child in the Oval Office forces Germany to finally grow up in regard to foreign policy. It will not happen so quickly that the German Navy gets aircraft carriers and the Luftwaffe cruise missiles. But the willingness of Germany to assume more responsibility in the world in the face of Trumpism…cannot be limited to applauding the French and the British… The fundamental contradiction of German foreign policy of having high moral and humanitarian standards, but only a low readiness to enforce them ‘robustly’ in an emergency, cannot be solved in any way with unarmed reconnaissance flights.” It would be a fatal error to confuse the tactical decision by the US military to avoid for now a direct clash with Russian forces in Syria with a shift in the strategic orientation of American imperialism toward a wider war in Syria and a military confrontation with Iran and Russia. The circumscribed nature of this weekend’s strikes reflects the awareness within the American military of the potential consequences of any military attack in Syria. There is no question that if Russian forces had been hit, the result could have been Russian retaliation. But it is only a matter of time before a future military attack triggers a direct conflict between the two largest nuclear powers in the world. Russian President Vladimir Putin himself warned Sunday that further Western attacks on Syria would inevitably lead to “chaos in international relations.” Each such attack underscores how real and present is the danger of a massive war with catastrophic consequences. The world is witnessing an eruption of US and world imperialism that threatens to destroy human civilization. It can be prevented only by the revolutionary mobilization of the international working class to put an end to capitalism. Barry Grey WSWS.ORG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Apr 16 15:39:10 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:39:10 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Washington seeks permanent deployment of special forces brigade to Africa. Message-ID: Strikes on Syria, a stepping stone to war with Iran? In the meantime look at what we’re doing in Africa, across the Sahel. Not mentioned: Obama set the stage for what is taking place in Africa, by ensuring AFRICOM was accepted by those nations that refused it, during the Bush Administration. Trump may have implemented the new “Rules of Engagement” but they were revised during the Obama Administration in 2015, they are no longer in line with the Geneva Convention, or International Law. All matter of abuse established as crimes by the Nuremberg trials, are now allowed. US Foreign Policy is not a matter of which Party or which Administration is in power, because it continues almost on autopilot. Most egregious domestic policies are an extension of support for USG Foreign Policy. Which is why we must look beneath the surface at the root cause, capitalism. Just my opinion, K. Aram. * Print * Leaflet * Feedback * Share » Washington seeks permanent deployment of special forces brigade to Africa By Eddie Haywood 16 April 2018 Republican Senator James Inhofe of the Senate Armed Services Committee last week sent a letter to Secretary of the Army Mark Esper outlining a proposal that would constitute an increase in troop levels deployed under AFRICOM, as well as broadening the American military’s footprint across Africa. In his letter, Inhofe requested the Army secretary give his views regarding the assignment to AFRICOM of one of the six new Security Forces Assistant Brigades (SFAB). The special brigade, if deployed, would provide an additional 500 troops on a permanent basis for AFRICOM. Inhofe wrote, “As you know, AFRICOM does not have any assigned forces, but must compete for allocated forces within the Department of Defense’s global force management process. The Army has allocated a Brigade Combat Team (BCT) to AFRICOM in the recent past as part of the Regionally Aligned Forces (RAF) program. These operations were a success for our African nation partners and built strategic partnerships for the United States. However, they also negatively affected the allocated BCT’s readiness, especially for core missions such as full spectrum combat operations.” The SFAB were officially introduced last year with the first of six brigades activated. According to the Pentagon, the new units were “created in order to train, advise, assist, enable and accompany host nation conventional forces in infantry, armor, cavalry, engineer, artillery and combined arms warfare.” According to the US Army website, the Pentagon envisions the SFAB as “specifically built to achieve the Army’s vision of enabling combatant commanders to carry out theater security objectives through partnered and allied indigenous security forces for decades to come.” The drive to increase the American military’s presence in Africa comes after last year’s ambush killing of four Green Berets in Niger while conducting a combat mission with their Nigerien counterparts. Highlighting the predatory aim of AFRICOM’s presence in the region is the Niger defense minister’s admission that the US forces “wage war when necessary.” The plan to expand AFRICOM follows an already amplified presence across the continent, with an estimated 6,000 US special forces and other military personnel on the ground in nearly every country in Africa. AFRICOM was established in 2007 by the Bush administration to oversee and develop military operations on the resource rich continent. In the beginning, the command was little more than an appendage run under Central Command (CENTCOM) from its headquarters in Stuttgart, Germany. Its exponential expansion today into every corner of Africa is a significant manifestation of Washington’s far-reaching drive to secure US economic dominance over Africa’s vast resources and block the advance of its economic rivals, foremost China. The Trump administration has overseen a significant rise in drone strikes in Somalia, conducting 35 drone strikes in 2017. In comparison, there were 13 strikes conducted in 2016, and five in 2015. As the WSWS has reported, 2018 is on pace to surpass all previous years combined for drone strikes in the country. Additionally, the Trump administration issued new rules of engagement for US military forces, essentially granting free rein for commanders to carry out open-ended warfare. The Pentagon has deployed another 500 troops to Somalia. Notably, the US military has opened a new drone base in Agadez, Niger, which the Pentagon projects will give it the ability to carry out drone strikes and surveillance throughout Western and Northern Africa. Major General Marcus Hicks, the Chief of Staff for US Special Operations Command, spoke to the Washington Post amid the annual Flintlock military exercise currently being held in Niger. Hicks reiterated the broad scope of the American military’s aim in Africa, saying, “We’re not reducing our footprint or tempo [in Africa].” Flintlock is a counterterrorism exercise organized by AFRICOM, with the participation of several African nations, since 2005. Participating countries (both past and present) include, Algeria, Burkina Faso, Chad, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, South Africa, Canada, Tunisia, Italy, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Spain, United Kingdom and the United States. Naming the “rise of Islamic extremism” as the pretext for AFRICOM’s broadening mission, Hicks told the Post, “I believe al-Qaida has a more disciplined approach to developing infrastructure across Africa, north Africa, the Sahel. They are taking a patient approach to gaining ground in influence over organizations that are already there and co-opting local and regional grievances and turning it to their own devices.” In fact, the cause for the rise of Islamic militants spilling into the Sahel and West Africa are largely the consequence of Washington’s intervention into Libya. From the beginning of the campaign for regime change in Libya, Washington enlisted Islamic militants affiliated or linked to Al-Qaeda to carry out its dirty work in removing Gaddafi. Now, in the aftermath of the bombardment of Libya by NATO air strikes in 2011 that led to the complete upending of Libyan society, from which it has yet to recover, the former US-backed fighters spilled forth out of Libya and down into West Africa. The militarization of the continent comes amid a rise in strikes and demonstrations across Africa. Doctors and teachers in Algeria, Kenya, Togo and Nigeria have been carrying out protests and strikes, in many cases completely shutting down schools, universities, and hospitals. In the final analysis, AFRICOM’s escalation and expansion complements Washington’s utilization of its massive military power to counter waning US economic and political influence in Africa to neutralize China’s rising economic influence on the continent. Beijing’s recent opening of a naval base in Djibouti, five miles from the joint US-France Camp Lemonnier base, is of particular concern to Washington’s strategists. WSWS.ORG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Apr 16 22:52:51 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 22:52:51 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: [New post] Nothing Left References: <11050395.3476.0@wordpress.com> Message-ID: I posted a comment to the article below. From: Smoke and Mirrors > Subject: [New post] Nothing Left Respond to this post by replying above this line New post on Smoke and Mirrors [http://1.gravatar.com/blavatar/71c401cdd13b08a361e28195c5cae882?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2Fs0.wp.com%2Fi%2Femails%2Fblavatar.png] [http://2.gravatar.com/avatar/5af2cf3964f6ce7ef87f07a4f8c6bf0e?s=50&d=identicon&r=G] Nothing Left by mjw51 Well, well. Here we are again. You really have to ask yourself why it is that Americans will flock spontaneously to their local airports to protest their president's illegal banning of immigrants but can't be bothered to do the same in equal numbers to protest their president's illegal bombing of yet another war-torn nation in the global south. It could be that immigration falls naturally under the "racist-white supremacist" clause of the identity politics version of the social contract, whereas illegal wars that take place far away among "people of colour" who are on all kinds of different "sides" just cannot be comprehended in the "racist-white supremacist" analysis of the world. It could also be that Americans of whatever political stripe are vaguely in favor of war because they can never really be sure whether it is for good or for ill, so best to just let the bosses have at it. But really, the failure of the American "left" to actively oppose American imperialist militarism since the last gasp of that One Big Rally back when Cheney and Rumsfeld organized Bush II into invading Iraq is not a failure of any actual "left". Because for all intents and purposes there is no American left, just a simulacrum thereof consisting of online identity politicking claiming the leftist label and the occasional socialist-materialist leftist so frightened of the attacks from the Id Pol Vampire Squad that they might as well be on the radical liberal team themselves. The Emperor has orange hair and bad clothes and zero effective internal opposition. May we hope that Russia and Iran backed by China will step up where leftists fear to tread? mjw51 | April 14, 2018 at 2:04 pm | Tags: Amerika, anti-war movement, Leftist politics, Syria | Categories: Commentary, Smoke and Mirrors | URL: https://wp.me/pKmIb-U4 Comment See all comments Unsubscribe to no longer receive posts from Smoke and Mirrors. Change your email settings at Manage Subscriptions. Trouble clicking? 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Larry Wilkerson on Syria: War Powers is the "Surest Way to Tyranny" Message-ID: Larry Wilkerson on “The Real News.” http://therealnews.com/t2/story:21593:Col.-Larry-Wilkerson-on-Syria%3A-War-Powers-is-the-%22Surest-Way-to-Tyranny% ________________________________ biography Distinguished Adjunct Professor of Government and Public Policy Lawrence Wilkerson's last positions in government were as Secretary of State Colin Powell's Chief of Staff (2002-05), Associate Director of the State Department's Policy Planning staff under the directorship of Ambassador Richard N. Haass, and member of that staff responsible for East Asia and the Pacific, political-military and legislative affairs (2001-02). Before serving at the State Department, Wilkerson served 31 years in the U.S. Army. During that time, he was a member of the faculty of the U.S. Naval War College (1987 to 1989), Special Assistant to General Powell when he was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (1989-93), and Director and Deputy Director of the U.S. Marine Corps War College at Quantico, Virginia (1993-97). Wilkerson retired from active service in 1997 as a colonel, and began work as an advisor to General Powell. He has also taught national security affairs in the Honors Program at the George Washington University. He is currently working on a book about the first George W. Bush administration. ________________________________ transcript [http://therealnews.com/media/trn_2018-04-01/lwilkerson0416syria-240.jpg]SHARMINI PERIES: It's the Real News Network. I'm Sharmini Peries coming to you from Baltimore. As everyone knows by now, late Friday night the U.S. military, with the support of the British and the French military, launched a series of missile attacks against what they said were Syrian research, chemical storage, and military targets. The strikes were apparently in retaliation for an alleged chemical weapons attack near Damascus which is said to have killed 40 - 70 civilians. Over the weekend Trump gloated in these attacks. DONALD TRUMP: By the way, John Bolton is here, and we just had a big, successful hit. John? Are you giving him all the credit? Or you know, that means the end of his job. Did our generals do a great job? Did our military do a great job? With way over 100 missiles shot in, they didn't shoot one down. The equipment didn't work too well, their equipment, and they didn't shoot one, you know, you heard, oh, they shot 40 down, then they shot 15 down. Then I call, I said, did they? No, sir, every single one hit its target. SHARMINI PERIES: Reaction from members of Congress was generally supportive of the strike, as were many human rights organizations and the mainstream media, although these strikes were unauthorized by Congress or the UN. Some senators, however, Bernie Sanders and Tim Kaine, as well as Congressman Ro Khanna, they rejected these strikes, saying that Trump should have gotten congressional authorization first, as is required by the Constitution. On Friday night, Bernie Sanders wrote: It is Congress, not the president, which has the Constitutional responsibility for making war. The international community must uphold the prohibition against the use of chemical weapons, but it is unclear how Trump's illegal and unauthorized strikes on Syria achieve that goal. And he added this on Meet the Press on Sunday. BERNIE SANDERS: I disagree that the United States should have combat troops in that area. I feel very much that we will be in perpetual warfare in that region. I do not want to see that occur. But let me be very clear: I am very concerned about a lot of the war talk that I'm hearing from my Republican colleagues, who apparently have forgotten the cost of war and the errors made in Afghanistan and Iraq. And what I believe, Chuck, very much, is that the most powerful military on earth, the United States of America, that our government should do everything that we can to resolve international conflict in a way that does not require war. SHARMINI PERIES: In the UK, the reaction from Jeremy Corbyn was much tougher against Theresa May's arbitrary decision to support the U.S, without consulting parliament. JEREMY CORBYN: The Prime Minister is accountable to this Parliament, not to the whims of the U.S. president. Her predecessor came to this house to seek authority for military action in Libya and in Syria in 2015. The House had a vote over Iraq in 2003. There is no more serious issue than the life and death matters of military action. It is right that Parliament has the power to support or stop the government from taking planned military action. I believe, Mr. Speaker, the action was legally questionable. SHARMINI PERIES: And in France, John Luc Melenchon of the hard left in France condemned the strikes, as did the center-right leader Laurent Wauquiez. Even the leader of the far-right Front, Marine Le Pen, said Macron had not published any evidence of the use of chemical weapons by the Syrian regime. Meanwhile, chemical weapons inspectors from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons arrived in Syria on Saturday. However, they have not been able to enter the affected areas because of the pending missile strikes. On the weekend and today we have the U.S. alleging that Russians may have tampered with the evidence in the meantime. Joining me now to discuss the attacks on Syria is Colonel Larry Wilkerson. Larry is former chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell, and now a distinguished professor at the College of William and Mary. Thanks for joining us, Larry. LARRY WILKERSON: Thanks for having me, Sharmini. SHARMINI PERIES: Larry, at a time when more people in Washington, and in Congress in particular, and the U.S. media should be challenging the official narrative, they're actually endorsing it. And this is a war , or these strikes took place without congressional approval, without a U.N. resolution, and before the inspectors could even get on the ground to see what really happened. And UK joined them without parliamentary approval. France did as well without taking it to parliament. Now, without the obvious reasons, which is perhaps to distract the media and all of our eyeballs from what's really going on in Washington, these strikes took place. So give us the real reasons and the motivations behind these missile attacks on Syria. LARRY WILKERSON: The foremost reason for this strike, and I suspect the only reason Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis would give a positive recommendation regarding it, was to reassert U.S. power in the region after the very impolitic remarks by President Trump that we were withdrawing. In other words, we needed to convince the Russians, and the Iranians, but principally the Russians, that we were still in the game. And that when we come to the political settlement, which is the only way we're going to stop this brutal war, we still have some high ground. And that was the sole reason for the strike that made any strategic sense. Everything else is nonsense. SHARMINI PERIES: Larry, off the top, in the intro, I indicated that only a few people in power actually objected to these attacks. Why is this happening? LARRY WILKERSON: Absolutely no objection, except to the few people, Mike Lee, perhaps, and Bernie Sanders, maybe Tim Kaine from Virginia, who would object because they know what it means. It means that we are so eroding the Constitutional war power, the people's representatives war power, the Constitutional Title 50 U.S. Code Chapter 33 Section 15, 41-48 legal rationale, legal restriction and constraint on the war power. We're violating it every week, every month, every day that goes by. And the more we do that we're eroding the power of the Congress to act as a check on the president with regard to that power. This is tyranny. James Madison said the surest way to carry is through the war power, and he was right. He was fundamentally right. This is the way kings gained almost universal power, through the divine right and through the war power. This is the way presidents gain, prime ministers gain ultimate power, through the war power. We keep surrendering this power to the executive branch and we will regret it dearly in the future if, indeed, we aren't already regretting it. Look at what we're doing around the world right now without any check, any balance. The American people don't even know what we're doing. Niger recently was just an example of that. What are we doing in the Niger? Said the American people. Why are these people dying in Niger? Well, they really knew the truth about all the places we do have people, and all the places we are performing lethal actions and killing other people, I hope they'd be disgusted. But you know, Sharmini, increasingly I'm not thinking they would be. I'm thinking they'd probably be elated, or they'd be just as apathetic as they are at this present moment. They have surrendered the power to make war to the president of the United States with no check, no balance on that power. SHARMINI PERIES: Larry, tell us about the relationship between U.S., UK, and France in this collaboration in attacking Syria. Apparently Macron was on record this weekend saying that he urged President Trump to remain in Syria, and he slightly withdrew that comment late night on Sunday. But nevertheless, what is the interest of U.S., UK, and France, and then of course remaining in Syria, what does that really mean? LARRY WILKERSON: This is laughable and lamentable at the same time. The old colonial powers. France vis a vis Lebanon and Syria, Britain Iraq and Iran, and really vis a vis Iraq, and the United States. Here we are, the old colonial powers, the people that screwed the region up in the first place are now trying to, you know, essentially for commercial and other interests, oil and gas read loud, are trying to get it back in order again. It's almost laughable if it weren't so lamentable. At the bottom of all of this, I think, is oil and gas, and what it means in terms of commercial interests with regard to those commodities in the region, whether it's the Eastern Med, where Lebanon and Israel are now arguing over Section 9, or Turkey and Cyprus and Greece are arguing over fields, or whether it's the pipelines that are going to be built or under construction already, like the one just approved for Afghanistan. This is why we're in the region. And to present all these other reason, other reasons, as rationales for being there are just lying to the American people. But we've done that forever. We lied to the American people in Vietnam, we lied to them during the Iraq wars. We lied to them about Afghanistan. We just don't have the courage or the fortitude, or in some cases the wisdom, to tell the American people why we're doing things. And here we come back to what you asked before, the reason the executive can do anything he pleases with regard to the armed forces in the United States, any time he pleases, is because the American people are apathetic. Their representatives in the Congress are utterly pusillanimous. They're cowards. They will not do anything, with few exceptions, like Mike Lee, Bernie Sanders, and some of the others. So we're in a position right now where the president of the United States can take the armed forces, all-volunteer armed forces, mercenary armed forces for all practical purposes, coming from the poorest regions of America, they can take them and go out there to kill people, and do it in the name of the United States of America, and put a mythical proportions to it, like this is for freedom. This is for democracy. This is to stop the use of chemical weapons. And all that's nonsense. It's all for what Smedley Butler said years ago it was for: commercial purposes, filthy lucre, name it what you will. That's what we're doing it for. SHARMINI PERIES: Larry, speaking of commercial interests, Raytheon, who makes these missiles that were used in these strikes against Syria, nearly added $5 billion to their stock value. Tell us about the money interests here, and who's really benefiting from these attacks as far as profit is concerned. LARRY WILKERSON: You get companies like Raytheon and others to make these missiles, the more sophisticated, the more expensive. I understand some of them were Standoff cruise missiles, they're very expensive. It gets them more and more money, and it also, most people don't realize this, it also cuts production costs and the volume costs for those missiles for the Department of Defense. So the more of these missiles you shoot, and I suspect Raytheon's and others' lines are hotly humming right now, the more of them you shoot, we're shooting them in Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen also, you may recall, the cost, ultimately, per unit for the United States. And since the Pentagon really is in a fiscal situation unparalleled, about to go bankrupt itself if it doesn't do something about its gross spending habits, can't even audit itself, then every unit that's cost comes down is a benefit to the Pentagon. So you could say were killing people in the world for Raytheon and the DoD. SHARMINI PERIES: All right. As always there's so much more to discuss with you, Larry. But our time's up. So I'll talk to you next week. Thanks for joining us today. LARRY WILKERSON: T ake care. Good to be with you. SHARMINI PERIES: And thank you for joining us here on the Real News Network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Apr 17 12:00:25 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:00:25 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] "Oxygen starvation, not gas': says Veteran UK reporter Message-ID: 'Oxygen starvation, not gas’: Veteran UK reporter Fisk doubts MSM narrative on Douma ‘chem attack’ Published time: 17 Apr, 2018 10:40Edited time: 17 Apr, 2018 11:42 Get short URL ['Oxygen starvation, not gas’: Veteran UK reporter Fisk doubts MSM narrative on Douma ‘chem attack’] A damaged buildings are seen in the city of Douma, Damascus, Syria April 16, 2018. © Ali Hashisho / Reuters * 91 * * * * * * Veteran UK reporter Robert Fisk went to Syria’s Douma and heard that residents shown in notorious “gas attack footage” actually suffered from oxygen loss due to hiding in trash-filled shelters, and not from chemicals. If you feel overwhelmed by MSM coverage of the “chemical attack” in Douma, here’s your voice in the wilderness. Robert Fisk, a veteran UK foreign correspondent with the Independent, and one of the few Western reporters to have interviewed Osama bin Laden, went to Douma to go beyond what the Western media portrayed in early April as the “Bashar Assad regime’s chemical attack.” Read more [A child is treated in a hospital in Douma, eastern Ghouta in Syria, after what a Syria medical relief group claims was a suspected chemical attack April, 7, 2018 © Reuters]Moscow has ‘irrefutable’ evidence chem attack in Syria’s Douma was staged – Russia’s envoy to OPCW Fisk’s thought-provoking piece is centered around the witness accounts of Assim Rahaibani, a 58-year-old local doctor who told him that patients caught in the heart-wrenching video – the one claiming to show the aftermath of the alleged chemical weapons attacks in Douma – did not actually suffer from any toxins. They were “overcome not by gas but by oxygen starvation” because they had to live in rubbish-filled underground shelters in order to survive the perils of fighting. The doctor told the Independent reporter that on the night of April 7, when the alleged attack supposedly took place, “there was wind and huge dust clouds began to come into the basements and cellars where people lived.” Patients began to arrive in his subterranean hospital suffering from hypoxia and oxygen loss, Dr Rahaibani continued. “Then someone at the door, a ‘White Helmet’, shouted “gas!” and a panic began. People started throwing water over each other.” He added: “Yes, the video was filmed here, it is genuine, but what you see are people suffering from hypoxia – not gas poisoning.” The footage in question was posted on YouTube on the day of the alleged chemical attack. Shortly after, graphic images purporting to show the horrific consequences of the attack began flooding social media. Though there may have been inconsistencies within the video and the images themselves, they were widely reported by Western media outlets which were quick to put the blame on the Syrian government. The US and its allies the UK and France cited the purported gas attack in Douma as the pretext for military action against Syria that saw over 100 cruise missiles pounding Syrian civilian and military targets on April 14. However, in the war-ravaged town of Douma, people seemed unable to link the alleged chemical incident and the US-led air assaults, Fisk writes. READ MORE: 'US knew there were no toxins & risked nothing' – chemical experts on Syria strike “Oddly, after chatting to more than 20 people, I couldn’t find one who showed the slightest interest in Douma’s role in bringing about the Western air attacks,” he notes. “Two actually told me they didn’t know about the connection.” Fisk says people in Douma were happy to see foreigners among them, and were willing to talk about other things. They told him of “the Islamists under whom they had lived,” and of militants who “had stolen civilian homes to avoid the Syrian government and Russian bombing.” “How could it be that Douma refugees who had reached camps in Turkey were already describing a gas attack which no one in Douma today seemed to recall?” he asks in conclusion, adding that news would have spread incredibly slowly among residents who were so isolated from each other. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Apr 17 12:54:21 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:54:21 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?News_Gazoo=3A=3AChemmy=27s_Yoo__?= =?windows-1252?q?=26_Sexist__Stoner_GENOCIDAL_CHIEF_ILLINIWAK=3A=93Chance?= =?windows-1252?q?llor=92s_Critical_Conversations=94_featuring_Erwin_Cheme?= =?windows-1252?q?rinsky_and_Geoffrey_Stone_-_TUESDAY=2C_April_17?= Message-ID: “{Stoner} was also one of the lawyers who represented President Bill Clinton in the Supreme Court in Clinton v. Jones.” Yeah, Stoner is a Sexist too. The Lawyer for #MeToo Clinton. The Panel is “moderated” by the Yale Law Mafia Dean of the Illiniwaks Killer Koh Law School Iceman Amar who publicly came out nationwide against the Sanctuary Movement that protects 10,000 Undocumented Migrants here in Champaign County alone. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 Chemmy is Dean of Berkeley Law School, where the Berkeley Law Faculty maliciously gave their most prestigious endowed Chair to John Yoo, Bush Jr.’s Torture Lawyer, War Criminal and Felon. Chemmy is knowingly permitting War Criminal Yoo to turn his Berkeley Law Students into Torturers, War Criminals and Felons just like Chemmy’s Endowed Professor Yoo. How dare Chemmy come in here and lecture us about Genocidal Chief Illiniwak! Stoner was Provost and Law Dean at the right-wing, racist, bigoted, reactionary, pro- apartheid University of Chicago that adamantly refused to Divest from the Criminal Apartheid Regime in South Africa and was proud of it, and also continues to practice Urban Apartheid against the surrounding African American Communities. How dare Stoner come in here and lecture us about Genocidal Chief Illiniwak! Fab, AB, UChicago, 1971 Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Turner, Carolyn Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:20 AM To: Law * College of Law Community > Subject: “Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 Event date is TUESDAY, April 17. “CHANCELLOR’S CRITICAL CONVERSATIONS” FEATURING ERWIN CHEMERINSKY AND GEOFFREY STONE Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12 – 1 p.m. Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, Colwell Playhouse 500 South Goodwin Avenue Urbana, Illinois The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign will host a conversation on the topic of free speech on April 17 in Colwell Playhouse at Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, 500 S. Goodwin Avenue in Urbana. Speakers will be Erwin Chemerinsky, the dean of the University of California, Berkeley School of Law; and Geoffrey Stone, a former law school dean and former provost at the University of Chicago. The conversation will be moderated by University of Illinois College of Law dean Vikram D. Amar. “Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” is a series of events designed to explore difficult issues and answer challenging questions together, as a university community. The goal of each event is to challenge beliefs, opinions and viewpoints through careful listening and the thoughtful expression of different voices, perspectives and ideas. Sponsored by the Office of the Chancellor. Event is free and open to the public. Registration is not required. Parking is available in the Krannert Center parking garage and at metered spaces surrounding the Center. 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Message-ID: In the 60's our best and brightest leaders gave us death and destruction in Vietnam. Our best and brightest young people opposed their wars of aggression. Today I cannot refer to our leaders as anything but f……idiots, unfortunately our best and brightest young people have been so "molded" by our flawed educational system, along with our corporate owned media, they give us what Tariq Ali refers to as "intellectual chaos" obfuscating US imperialism. It tends to be not the millennial generation, as much as those between the ages of 40 and 60. Recently a political activist over age 60 made the statement “ we appear to be living in a similar realm to that portrayed in the film/play Cabaret, when the grumpy old man refused to stand while the Hitlerjugend sang the beautiful but chilling “The World Belongs to Me.” -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 9:44 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: ‘Completely Bogus’: Syria Strike Indefensible Under US, International Law - Sputnik International [https://cdn4.img.sputniknews.com/images/106362/42/1063624225.jpg] ‘Completely Bogus’: Syria Strike Indefensible Under US, International Law US missiles raining down on Syria last Friday night were fired in violation of not only international legal precedents, but also in flagrant disregard for the United States’ own constitution, a Harvard-trained lawyer and renowned professor of international law told Radio Sputnik Monday. https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804171063632154-bogus-syria-strike-indefensible-law/ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Tue Apr 17 16:06:15 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:06:15 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: NYT: Pee Tapes Comey & War Criminal Goldsmith Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:06 AM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: NYT: Pee Tapes Comey & War Criminal Goldsmith "Jim Comey is as upright, honest and decent a person and public servant as I have ever met," said Jack Goldsmith..." the Harvard Law War Criminal. Fab. Subject: [NYTr] Prof of Intl Law Says Harvard Hired a War Criminal Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit sent by Francis Boyle - Nov 23, 2004 Information Clearing House - Breaking News http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7350.htm Professor of International Law Says Harvard Hired a "War Criminal" By Jason Leopold 11/23/04 "ICH" -- A Harvard University Law School alumni and professor of international law and human rights has started a campaign to boycott the prestigious university he once attended as a result of Harvard's hiring of Assistant Attorney General Jack Goldsmith to join its law school faculty. Goldsmith was identified earlier this year as one of several legal experts who drafted memos for the White House and the Justice Department saying the military could skirt the rules of the Geneva Convention when interrogating Iraqi prisoners. Legal experts have said that word about bypassing the Geneva Convention trickled down the military chain of command and lead to widespread abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib. Francis Boyle, who teaches at the University Of Illinois College Of Law and graduated magna cum laude from Harvard in 1971, said he was informed by colleagues last spring that Harvard was considering hiring Goldsmith and that he immediately voiced his concerns to Harvard officials. "These (Harvard) professors think they are above the law," Boyle said in an interview. "They refused to tell me why they were hiring Goldsmith, who, many of us in the legal profession believe is a war criminal." Neither Goldsmith nor Harvard law school officials would return numerous calls for comment. Boyle, according to his bio, has written extensively on international law and politics. He has published eight books. His book, Defending Civil Resistance Under International Law, has been used successfully in numerous foreign policy protest trials. Boyle is also the lead counsel for Bosnia and Herzegovina in Application of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (Bosnia and Herzegovina v. Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) currently pending before the International Court of Justice Goldsmith's March 19, 2004 memo, written for then White House counsel Alberto Gonzales, who was tapped a couple of weeks ago to replace John Ashcroft as Attorney General, caused a furor in legal circles because it authorized the Central Intelligence Agency to transfer detainees out of Iraq for interrogation - a practice that international legal specialists say contravenes the Geneva Conventions, according to an Oct. 24 report in the Washington Post. "One intelligence official familiar with the operation said the CIA has used the March draft memo as legal support for secretly transporting as many as a dozen detainees out of Iraq in the last six months. The agency has concealed the detainees from the International Red Cross and other authorities, the official said," the Post reported. Moreover, Goldsmith personally presented Gonzales, the White House counsel, with a "series of arguments that they claimed could be marshaled as defenses against U.S. torture statutes and the United Nations Convention Against Torture (CAT), which has been ratified by the United States," reported Inter Press Service last month. The full extent to which Goldsmith advised the White House to ignore the Geneva Convention may be revealed during Gonzales's Senate confirmation hearing in January. Boyle, a former teaching fellow at Harvard and a former associate at its Center for International Affairs, became so incensed with his alma mater's hiring of Goldsmith in June that he immediately launched an email campaign to boycott Harvard and said he plans to ask other alumni to withhold funds from the University, which is in the midst of a $400 million fundraising campaign. "The Harvard Law School Faculty knew full well the nefarious activities that Goldsmith had performed at the Department of Justice and the Pentagon before they voted to hire him. Obviously, the Harvard Law School Faculty wanted a war criminal to join their ranks. For this reason, the Harvard Law School Faculty is not fit to educate students. I would strongly recommend that you discourage students from attending the Harvard Law School for any reason," states one of a dozen or so emails Boyle has distributed to colleagues, students and Harvard faculty. Boyle said he is asking colleagues and other alumni to "ding" Harvard law school in the national rankings and "drive their rankings down overall and by each specialty." "We need to drive home to the Harvard Law School Faculty that this behavior is completely unacceptable to their colleagues in the legal teaching profession," Boyle said. "The Harvard Law School Faculty is not above the Law. Therefore, I recommend that we respond to each and every peer survey we get and rank the Harvard Law School last." It's unknown whether Boyle's actions have had a material impact on Harvard. * Search the NYTr Archives at: http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Apr 17 23:33:47 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 23:33:47 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Unions shut down Oklahoma teachers strike Message-ID: Unions shut down Oklahoma teachers strike By Jerry White 17 April 2018 Tens of thousands of Oklahoma teachers returned to their classrooms Monday morning after their two-week walkout was shut down by the Oklahoma Education Association (OEA) and the Oklahoma City-American Federation of Teachers (AFT). While hundreds of teachers made individual decisions to use sick days and personal days to show up at the state capitol Monday, the mass of teachers have been demobilized by the OEA and AFT. The teachers, who waged a courageous fight for improved wages and increased school funding for their students were not defeated; they were betrayed. A poll on the Facebook page, “Oklahoma Teacher Walkout-The Time is Now!” showed that 88.3 percent of teachers wanted to continue the strike, but the majority said they could not afford to lose more pay. Teachers in the state capital of Oklahoma City voted 2-1 to continue the strike, according to a poll by the AFT. After years of collusion between the unions and successive Democratic and Republican state governments, which cut school spending by nearly 30 percent over the last decade, teachers, using social media, launched the walkout on April 2. The unions opposed the strike at first and then tried to regain control of the movement to smother it and shut it down. Announcing that the OEA was ending support for the strike last Thursday, OEA President Alicia Priest made the lying claim that teachers had won 95 percent of their demands. In fact, teachers, who are near the bottom in the US in wages, demanded a $10,000 pay increase but got an average of only $6,100. They demanded $200 million in additional school funding but the state government agreed to less than $50 million, largely paid for through regressive taxes on fuel, cigarettes and gaming. Teachers demanded $5,000 raises for school aides, school bus drivers and other support staff, many who live at or below poverty. Instead, they got $1,250. Finally, teachers demanded $7,500 in pay raises for other public employees, many of whom joined the strike, but they received only derisory raises of $750 to $2,000. Lat Friday, the day after Priest told teachers to go back to work, thousands defiantly returned to the capitol to continue their protests, carrying signs like “OEA doesn’t speak for me” “OEA didn’t start this they cannot end it.” Hundreds canceled their union memberships. Andy, an Oklahoma City teacher, told the World Socialist Web Site, “The role of the union was to pretend that it had something to do with this strike and then to end it. Everybody would still have kept going if it wasn’t for the OEA. They said, ‘Good job, now go home.’ “Education is part of a bigger problem. The state of Oklahoma doesn’t spend money on the mentally ill or for poor kids. They talk this Reaganomics stuff where they give tax cuts to the oil, gas and coal industries and that it will trickle down to us. But they are not going to give it back. It would be great to unify teachers across the country.” There is little doubt that the OEA was instructed to end the strike by the national teacher unions, the National Education Association (NEA) and the American Federation of Teachers (AFT). The biggest factor behind the intervention of the unions was to prevent the Oklahoma struggle from linking up with teachers across the US who are rebelling after suffering a five percent fall in real wages over the last decade and savage school cuts, attacks that were aided and abetted by the unions. On Monday, hundreds of teachers in Colorado—46th in the nation in pay—protested at the state capitol, leading to the closure of schools in the Denver-Aurora area. Teachers in Kentucky, Arizona and other states are also pressing for statewide strikes to defend pensions and demand pay raises. The Brookings Institution recently warned that teacher strikes could erupt next in Indiana, Texas, North Carolina, Mississippi, Idaho and many other states. In state after state, the unions are trying to intimidate and dissuade teachers from striking. A statement from the Arizona Education Association, recently circulated to teachers, warned that those engaging in a walkout “may face loss of pay, discipline or dismissal, and some form of action against their certificates.” The same threatening messages have been sent to teachers in Florida, Iowa and other states. Fueling the movement among teachers has been the relentless budget-cutting and staff reduction carried out by states since the 2008 financial crash. Twenty-nine states have lower per pupil spending than a decade ago. Despite an increase in enrollment of three percent, many districts have not hired staff to replace those laid off during the Great Recession. This has led to larger class sizes and ever-greater demands on teachers. As in West Virginia, it was rank-and-file teachers, not the unions, who initiated the strike. Oklahoma teachers showed enormous courage and ingenuity, using Facebook pages and other social media to coordinate mass protests at the state capitol. In the end, however, the leaders of the two Facebook groups, “Oklahoma Teacher Walkout-The Time is Now!” and “Oklahoma Teachers United” were opposed to an independent policy for teachers and echoed the same false claims as the unions that state Democrats could be relied on to defend public education. Because of this, the unions were able to reassert control and shut down the strike. The state’s Republican governor, Mary Fallin, and the state legislature steadfastly refused to provide any additional funding after handing over billions in tax cuts to the oil, gas and coal industries that dominate the state. The Democrats, for their part, fully backed the insulting pay and school funding bill rejected by teachers and sought to cover up their own role in the funding crisis. Fallin’s Democratic predecessor, Brad Henry, implemented capital gains and income tax reductions for the rich while slashing funding for public education and other essential services. On the federal level, the Obama years saw a relentless attack on teachers and public education and a vast expansion of for-profit charter schools, which have paved the way for an expansion of this assault by Trump and Education Secretary Betsy DeVos. The unions are desperately trying to smother further teacher strikes and divert opposition behind the election of Democrats in the 2018 elections. This was spelled out in an opinion piece in USA Today by AFT President Randi Weingarten, who wrote, “At a time when teachers’ agency is routinely being gutted by attacks on their profession and their right to organize, teachers realize that their weapon is their vote and their mission is the upcoming elections.” A veteran teacher from Shawnee, 38 miles to the east of Oklahoma City, told the World Socialist Web Site, “Teachers in Arizona, Kentucky, Colorado and other states are moving, and we need an organization to step up and unite this movement nationally. The NEA and the AFT have failed us. The situation is the same everywhere. “There is a new bill coming up in Oklahoma to pay for our raises by taking money from our pensions. The legislators and the corporate heads don’t care. The tax on oil and gas production here is only 3.2 percent, compared to 8.3 percent in Texas and 12 percent in Arkansas, and the state is actually paying energy companies to use our wind. Meanwhile, our schools are so short of supplies we have to get used paper with printing on one side to use on our copy machines.” [http://www.wsws.org/asset/9ac54ce3-3698-47a6-bed9-72e80080783G/image.png?rendition=image480]Mary, Aaron, Andy and William Aaron, who teaches at an Oklahoma City school in a poor, mostly Hispanic neighborhood, said, “It’s frustrating that the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. None of this affects the governor and the legislators who have money to send their kids to the best schools. “In our schools we have shortages of books, and some kids are struggling with hunger. Parents are scrambling to make ends meet with the fathers working in construction and landscaping and the mothers working as waitresses, housecleaners and other hard jobs. “It’s getting like it is in Mexico where in some school districts kids have to buy their textbooks and pay for everything starting as early as elementary school. There it is such a matter of pride just to graduate high school.” William, an Oklahoma City teacher with 35 years who also taught school in Puerto Rico, compared the situation in Oklahoma to the US territory in the Caribbean. “It’s the same all over. In the 1990s we went on strike in Puerto Rico to defend public education, but it has gotten worse since then. The education secretary, Julia Keleher, wants to move things backward. She is using New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina as a model to privatize schools in Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria. She wants to give money to parents to put their kids into Catholic schools. We don’t need another system to drain funds from the public schools.” Since the beginning of the strike, the WSWS Teacher Newsletterhas called on teachers to elect rank-and-file committees in their schools and districts to take the conduct of the struggle out of the hands of the unions. Rather than fruitless “lobbying” appeals to Republicans and Democrats, the WSWS urged teachers to reach out to the broadest sections of the working class in Oklahoma, and to link up their fight with teachers and other workers throughout the country to prepare a general strike. “The OEA pulled the rug out from underneath us. But they didn’t start this, we did,” Helen, a teacher from Oklahoma City Public Schools told the WSWS. “You would think with thousands of teachers coming into the state capitol the legislators might listen to our concerns. But they work for the gas, oil and wind industries, and as long as they are funded by these businesses they are not going to do anything for us. “Some legislators had the nerve to tell us we were wasting our time. They asked us why we were still here. There were thousands here and they didn’t budge, they said, so what makes us think they will do anything now? “We are in it for the long haul, even though the OEA tried to bust our bubble. Teachers are fighting all over. The media doesn’t want us to know the truth. But I am for uniting teachers across the country for a common fight.” Sign up for the WSWS Teacher Newsletter The WSWS urges teachers and supporters to sign up for the Teacher Newsletter for frequent updates and to leave your comments or questions. To do so, click here. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And we thank you for sending us." He's a paraplegic. Q. From this incident? Mrs. Bush. Right there. He's so sweet. But I mean, he met him. He wasn't -- you can't fake that. Q. Thank you, Mrs. Bush. The President. You have a Happy New Year! From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 18 11:35:13 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:35:13 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] George Bush: Remarks and a Question-and-Answer Session With Reporters in San Antonio, Texas, on United States Military Action in Panama References: Message-ID: * On her decision not to watch much TV during the run-up to the Iraq war being led by her son, George W. Bush: "But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's going to happen, and how many this and what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? And watch him suffer." (March 18, 2003) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:11 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: FW: George Bush: Remarks and a Question-and-Answer Session With Reporters in San Antonio, Texas, on United States Military Action in Panama Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:08 PM To: Killeacle Subject: George Bush: Remarks and a Question-and-Answer Session With Reporters in San Antonio, Texas, on United States Military Action in Panama http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=17988 Mrs. Bush. Let me just tell you. He thanked George and gave him a little American flag. And he said, "This is from all the men in Panama, and I want you to have this from them. And we thank you for sending us." He's a paraplegic. Q. From this incident? Mrs. Bush. Right there. He's so sweet. But I mean, he met him. He wasn't -- you can't fake that. Q. Thank you, Mrs. Bush. The President. You have a Happy New Year! From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 18 12:49:29 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 12:49:29 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?NEWS_GAZOO=3A_STONER_IS_A__BALD-?= =?windows-1252?q?FACED__LIAR!_GENOCIDAL_CHIEF_ILLINIWAK=3A=93Chancellor?= =?windows-1252?q?=92s_Critical_Conversations=94_featuring_Erwin_Chemerins?= =?windows-1252?q?ky_and_Geoffrey_Stone_-_TUESDAY=2C_April_17?= Message-ID: “…Students then...pushed the university {of Chicago} to condemn the Vietnam War as immoral, but administrators argued that universities should not pick sides on public policy issues unless they directly affect the school. A university, they said should be a place where the faculty and students feel free to advocate positions they believe in, and the school shouldn’t judge which are right and wrong, he {Stoner} said.” …At the behest of its Straussian Neo-Con Political Science Department, in 1979 the entire University of Chicago went out of its way to grant the "first Albert Pick Jr. Award for Outstanding Contributions to International Understanding" to Robert McNamara, who was personally responsible for exterminating 3 million Vietnamese and 58,000 men of my generation. In other words, the University of Chicago itself maliciously strove to rehabilitate one of the greatest international war criminals in the post-World War II era. History shall always record that the University of Chicago gratuitously honored Bob Half-an-Eichmann McNamara…. Stoner is a Bald-Faced Liar and he knows it! FAB, AB, Political Science, UChicago, 1971/72 Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:54 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo::Chemmy's Yoo & Sexist Stoner GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 “{Stoner} was also one of the lawyers who represented President Bill Clinton in the Supreme Court in Clinton v. Jones.” Yeah, Stoner is a Sexist too. The Lawyer for #MeToo Clinton. The Panel is “moderated” by the Yale Law Mafia Dean of the Illiniwaks Killer Koh Law School Iceman Amar who publicly came out nationwide against the Sanctuary Movement that protects 10,000 Undocumented Migrants here in Champaign County alone. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 Chemmy is Dean of Berkeley Law School, where the Berkeley Law Faculty maliciously gave their most prestigious endowed Chair to John Yoo, Bush Jr.’s Torture Lawyer, War Criminal and Felon. Chemmy is knowingly permitting War Criminal Yoo to turn his Berkeley Law Students into Torturers, War Criminals and Felons just like Chemmy’s Endowed Professor Yoo. How dare Chemmy come in here and lecture us about Genocidal Chief Illiniwak! Stoner was Provost and Law Dean at the right-wing, racist, bigoted, reactionary, pro- apartheid University of Chicago that adamantly refused to Divest from the Criminal Apartheid Regime in South Africa and was proud of it, and also continues to practice Urban Apartheid against the surrounding African American Communities. How dare Stoner come in here and lecture us about Genocidal Chief Illiniwak! Fab, AB, UChicago, 1971 Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Turner, Carolyn Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:20 AM To: Law * College of Law Community > Subject: “Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 Event date is TUESDAY, April 17. “CHANCELLOR’S CRITICAL CONVERSATIONS” FEATURING ERWIN CHEMERINSKY AND GEOFFREY STONE Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12 – 1 p.m. Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, Colwell Playhouse 500 South Goodwin Avenue Urbana, Illinois The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign will host a conversation on the topic of free speech on April 17 in Colwell Playhouse at Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, 500 S. Goodwin Avenue in Urbana. Speakers will be Erwin Chemerinsky, the dean of the University of California, Berkeley School of Law; and Geoffrey Stone, a former law school dean and former provost at the University of Chicago. The conversation will be moderated by University of Illinois College of Law dean Vikram D. Amar. “Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” is a series of events designed to explore difficult issues and answer challenging questions together, as a university community. The goal of each event is to challenge beliefs, opinions and viewpoints through careful listening and the thoughtful expression of different voices, perspectives and ideas. Sponsored by the Office of the Chancellor. Event is free and open to the public. Registration is not required. Parking is available in the Krannert Center parking garage and at metered spaces surrounding the Center. 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URL: From bjornsona at ameritech.net Wed Apr 18 12:53:07 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (bjornsona at ameritech.net) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 07:53:07 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] George Bush: Remarks and a Question-and-Answer Session With Reporters in San Antonio, Texas, on United States Military Action in Panama Message-ID: I prefer your remembrance below of Barbara Bush to many of the others we will endure in the coming days. Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------From: Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Date: Wed, Apr 18, 2018 6:35 AMTo: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Cc: Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] George Bush: Remarks and a Question-and-Answer Session With Reporters in San Antonio, Texas, on United States Military Action in Panama * On her decision not to watch much TV during the run-up to the Iraq war being led by her son, George W. Bush: "But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's going to happen, and how many this and what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? And watch him suffer." (March 18, 2003) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:11 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: FW: George Bush: Remarks and a Question-and-Answer Session With Reporters in San Antonio, Texas, on United States Military Action in Panama Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:08 PM To: Killeacle Subject: George Bush: Remarks and a Question-and-Answer Session With Reporters in San Antonio, Texas, on United States Military Action in Panama http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=17988 Mrs. Bush. Let me just tell you. He thanked George and gave him a little American flag. And he said, "This is from all the men in Panama, and I want you to have this from them. And we thank you for sending us." He's a paraplegic. Q. From this incident? Mrs. Bush. Right there. He's so sweet. But I mean, he met him. He wasn't -- you can't fake that. Q. Thank you, Mrs. Bush. The President. You have a Happy New Year! _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 18 13:36:19 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 13:36:19 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?NEWS_GAZOO=3A_CHEMMY_=26_HIS_END?= =?windows-1252?q?OWED_CHAIR_WAR_CRIMINAL_JOHN_YOO/_GENOCIDAL_CHIEF_ILLINI?= =?windows-1252?q?WAK=3A=93Chancellor=92s_Critical_Conversations=94_featur?= =?windows-1252?q?ing_Erwin_Chemerinsky_and_Geoffrey_Stone_-_TUESDAY=2C_Ap?= =?windows-1252?q?ril_17?= Message-ID: As for Chemmy and his self-styled “hate speech letters”, My Dear Chemmy, please tell us all: How many letters have you put into the mailboxes for the faculty and students at Berkeley Law denouncing your Endowed Chair War Criminal John Yoo? The Entire Berkeley Law Faculty is Sick and Demented! Fab. Ode to My Colleague and Friend Frank Newman Way to go Berkeley Law! Deeming Yourselves above The Law Your Dean Frank Newman now crying in Heaven Berkeley Law can go to Hell! Accessories After The Fact to torture, murder and war crimes Law Prof Carl Schmitt would be proud of You All The Nazis had Their Law Schools too Replete with John Yoo Killer Koh’s poo RIP Berkeley Law Into the Ashcan of History You All go Good Riddance to Cal’s Nazi scheisse! Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 7:49 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: [Peace-discuss] NEWS GAZOO: STONER IS A BALD-FACED LIAR! GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 “…Students then...pushed the university {of Chicago} to condemn the Vietnam War as immoral, but administrators argued that universities should not pick sides on public policy issues unless they directly affect the school. A university, they said should be a place where the faculty and students feel free to advocate positions they believe in, and the school shouldn’t judge which are right and wrong, he {Stoner} said.” …At the behest of its Straussian Neo-Con Political Science Department, in 1979 the entire University of Chicago went out of its way to grant the "first Albert Pick Jr. Award for Outstanding Contributions to International Understanding" to Robert McNamara, who was personally responsible for exterminating 3 million Vietnamese and 58,000 men of my generation. In other words, the University of Chicago itself maliciously strove to rehabilitate one of the greatest international war criminals in the post-World War II era. History shall always record that the University of Chicago gratuitously honored Bob Half-an-Eichmann McNamara…. Stoner is a Bald-Faced Liar and he knows it! FAB, AB, Political Science, UChicago, 1971/72 Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:54 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo::Chemmy's Yoo & Sexist Stoner GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 “{Stoner} was also one of the lawyers who represented President Bill Clinton in the Supreme Court in Clinton v. Jones.” Yeah, Stoner is a Sexist too. The Lawyer for #MeToo Clinton. The Panel is “moderated” by the Yale Law Mafia Dean of the Illiniwaks Killer Koh Law School Iceman Amar who publicly came out nationwide against the Sanctuary Movement that protects 10,000 Undocumented Migrants here in Champaign County alone. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 Chemmy is Dean of Berkeley Law School, where the Berkeley Law Faculty maliciously gave their most prestigious endowed Chair to John Yoo, Bush Jr.’s Torture Lawyer, War Criminal and Felon. Chemmy is knowingly permitting War Criminal Yoo to turn his Berkeley Law Students into Torturers, War Criminals and Felons just like Chemmy’s Endowed Professor Yoo. How dare Chemmy come in here and lecture us about Genocidal Chief Illiniwak! Stoner was Provost and Law Dean at the right-wing, racist, bigoted, reactionary, pro- apartheid University of Chicago that adamantly refused to Divest from the Criminal Apartheid Regime in South Africa and was proud of it, and also continues to practice Urban Apartheid against the surrounding African American Communities. How dare Stoner come in here and lecture us about Genocidal Chief Illiniwak! Fab, AB, UChicago, 1971 Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Turner, Carolyn Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:20 AM To: Law * College of Law Community > Subject: “Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 Event date is TUESDAY, April 17. “CHANCELLOR’S CRITICAL CONVERSATIONS” FEATURING ERWIN CHEMERINSKY AND GEOFFREY STONE Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12 – 1 p.m. Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, Colwell Playhouse 500 South Goodwin Avenue Urbana, Illinois The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign will host a conversation on the topic of free speech on April 17 in Colwell Playhouse at Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, 500 S. Goodwin Avenue in Urbana. Speakers will be Erwin Chemerinsky, the dean of the University of California, Berkeley School of Law; and Geoffrey Stone, a former law school dean and former provost at the University of Chicago. The conversation will be moderated by University of Illinois College of Law dean Vikram D. Amar. “Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” is a series of events designed to explore difficult issues and answer challenging questions together, as a university community. The goal of each event is to challenge beliefs, opinions and viewpoints through careful listening and the thoughtful expression of different voices, perspectives and ideas. Sponsored by the Office of the Chancellor. Event is free and open to the public. Registration is not required. Parking is available in the Krannert Center parking garage and at metered spaces surrounding the Center. 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URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Wed Apr 18 16:52:36 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:52:36 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] George Bush: Remarks and a Question-and-Answer Session With Reporters in San Antonio, Texas, on United States Military Action in Panama In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0F3F61E6-9EAA-48E5-A9D0-2BA8C53C5B49@gmail.com> > On Apr 18, 2018, at 7:53 AM, bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss wrote: > > I prefer your remembrance below of Barbara Bush to many of the others we will endure in the coming days. > > Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > ------ Original message------ > From: Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > Date: Wed, Apr 18, 2018 6:35 AM > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); > Cc: > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] George Bush: Remarks and a Question-and-Answer Session With Reporters in San Antonio, Te xas, on United States Military Action in Panama > > * On her decision not to watch much TV during the run-up to the Iraq war being led by her son, George W. Bush: "But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's going to happen, and how many this and what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? And watch him suffer." (March 18, 2003) > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > > 217-333-7954 > (phone) > > 217-244-1478 > (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:11 PM > To: Peace-discuss List > (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > > Subject: FW: George Bush: Remarks and a Question-and-Answer Session With Reporters in San Antonio, Texas, on United States Military Action in Panama > > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > > 217-333-7954 > (phone) > > 217-244-1478 > (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:08 PM > To: Killeacle > > Subject: George Bush: Remarks and a Question-and-Answer Session With Reporters in San Antonio, Texas, on United States Military Action in Panama > > > http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=17988 > > Mrs. Bush. Let me just tell you. He thanked George and gave him a little American flag. And he said, "This is from all the men in Panama, and I want you to have this from them. And we thank you for sending us." He's a paraplegic. > > Q. From this incident? > > Mrs. Bush. Right there. He's so sweet. But I mean, he met him. He wasn't -- you can't fake that. > > Q. Thank you, Mrs. Bush. > > The President. You have a Happy New Year! > > _______________________________________________ From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Apr 18 17:09:03 2018 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 12:09:03 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE meeting yes or no? Sun 4.15.18 at Hammerhead Coffee? In-Reply-To: <6k404d2i6g69bmsvcoddehf5.1523839155493@email.lge.com> References: <6k404d2i6g69bmsvcoddehf5.1523839155493@email.lge.com> Message-ID: Good for you and Doug. I’m sorry I couldn’t be there. > On Apr 15, 2018, at 7:55 PM, bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Doug and I held the meeting! Agreed with all that the events on Saturday seemed to be successes- including less negative feedback and possibly more cheering on than at some other events? It was good to participate with another group. ... > A note: Friday April 20 may be another March for Our Lives walkout for students. I hope to follow up on that and if possible stand near a march with a poster connecting "U. S. Gun Violence Won't Disappear Until Corporate Oil Wars Do" . Something like that. > Hope things are ok, Carl. > > Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > ------ Original message------ > From: Carl G. Estabrook > Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 6:31 PM > To: Karen Aram; > Cc: Anne Bjornson;Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Peace; > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] AWARE meeting yes or no? Sun 4.15.18 at Hammerhead Coffee? > > I’m afraid I won’t be there this week unfortunately with all going on > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 15, 2018, at 2:09 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: > > > > I’m not going to make it today Anne. Sorry. Maybe next week. > > > > Not sure about others. > > > >> On Apr 15, 2018, at 13:05, Anne Bjornson via Peace-discuss > wrote: > >> > >> Hello. I missed whether or not there is an AWARE meeting today, Sunday, 4/15/18, at Hammerhead Coffee in Urbana at 5 pm? I think Hammerhead is across the street from World Harvest's previous location at Wright and University, is that correct? > >> Looking forward to the always- interesting conversation, and btw a closer look at the furniture at Hammerhead. Looks like a combination of Mid-Century Modern and some handmade one- of- a -kind wooden pieces. ... :) > >> > >> From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Wed Apr 18 17:15:08 2018 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 12:15:08 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE meeting yes or no? Sun 4.15.18 at Hammerhead Coffee? In-Reply-To: References: <6k404d2i6g69bmsvcoddehf5.1523839155493@email.lge.com> Message-ID: <006601d3d738$cd7650e0$6862f2a0$@comcast.net> A film of the demonstration and march that occurred last Saturday April 14th in response to the attack on Syria, thanks to Stuart Levy and Karen Aram, will be aired on Labor's World View TV ( UPTV ) from 4-5 PM this Sunday on Comcast channel 6 and on line at ; www.urbanapublictelevision.org David Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:09 PM To: bjornsona at ameritech.net Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); Karen Aram; Peace Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] AWARE meeting yes or no? Sun 4.15.18 at Hammerhead Coffee? Good for you and Doug. I’m sorry I couldn’t be there. > On Apr 15, 2018, at 7:55 PM, bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Doug and I held the meeting! Agreed with all that the events on Saturday seemed to be successes- including less negative feedback and possibly more cheering on than at some other events? It was good to participate with another group. ... > A note: Friday April 20 may be another March for Our Lives walkout for students. I hope to follow up on that and if possible stand near a march with a poster connecting "U. S. Gun Violence Won't Disappear Until Corporate Oil Wars Do" . Something like that. > Hope things are ok, Carl. > > Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > ------ Original message------ > From: Carl G. Estabrook > Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 6:31 PM > To: Karen Aram; > Cc: Anne Bjornson;Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Peace; > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] AWARE meeting yes or no? Sun 4.15.18 at Hammerhead Coffee? > > I’m afraid I won’t be there this week unfortunately with all going on > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 15, 2018, at 2:09 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: > > > > I’m not going to make it today Anne. Sorry. Maybe next week. > > > > Not sure about others. > > > >> On Apr 15, 2018, at 13:05, Anne Bjornson via Peace-discuss > wrote: > >> > >> Hello. I missed whether or not there is an AWARE meeting today, Sunday, 4/15/18, at Hammerhead Coffee in Urbana at 5 pm? I think Hammerhead is across the street from World Harvest's previous location at Wright and University, is that correct? > >> Looking forward to the always- interesting conversation, and btw a closer look at the furniture at Hammerhead. Looks like a combination of Mid-Century Modern and some handmade one- of- a -kind wooden pieces. ... :) > >> > >> _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From davidgreen50 at gmail.com Wed Apr 18 21:54:21 2018 From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:54:21 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Grooming U.S. Kids for Servitude Message-ID: A long (2500 words) but thorough article on our current domestic plight, referring to the work of Gordon Lafer whose interview I posted recently. https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/grooming-u-s-kids-for-servitude/ It was the strike heard ‘round the country. West Virginia’s public school teachers had endured years of low pay, inadequate insurance, giant class sizes, and increasingly unlivable conditions—including attempts to force them to record private details of their health daily on a wellness app . Their governor, billionaire coal baron Jim Justice, pledged to allow them no more than an annual 1% raise—effectively a pay cut considering inflation—in a state where teacher salaries ranked 48th lowest out of 50 states. In February 2018, they finally revolted: In a tense, nine-day work stoppage, they managed to wrest a 5% pay increase from the state. Teachers in Oklahoma and Kentucky have now revolted in similar protests. It’s the latest battle in a contest between two countervailing forces: one bent on reengineering America for the benefit of the wealthy, the other struggling to preserve dignity and security for ordinary people. If the story turns out the way the Jim Justices desire, the children of a first-world country will henceforth be groomed for a third-world life. Gordon Lafer, Associate Professor at the Labor Education and Research Center at the University of Oregon, and Peter Temin, Professor Emeritus of Economics at MIT, help illuminate why this is happening, who is behind it, and what’s at stake as the educational system that once united Americans and prepared them for a life of social and economic mobility is wiped out of existence. *The Plan: Lower People’s Expectations * When Lafer began to study the tsunami of corporate-backed legislation that swept the country in early 2011 in the wake of Citizens United—the 2010 Supreme Court decision that gave corporations the green light to spend unlimited sums to influence the political system—he wasn’t yet clear what was happening. In state after state, a pattern was emerging of highly coordinated campaigns to smash unions, shrink taxes for the wealthy, and cut public services. Headlines blamed globalization and technology for the squeeze on the majority of the population, but Lafer began to see something far more deliberate working behind the scenes: a hidden force that was well-funded, laser-focused, and astonishingly effective. Lafer pored over the activities of business lobbying groups like the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) – funded by giant corporations including Walmart, Amazon.com , and Bank of America—that produces “model legislation” in areas its conservative members use to promote privatization. He studied the Koch network, a constellation of groups affiliated with billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch. (Koch Industries is the country’s second-largest private company with business including crude oil supply and refining and chemical production). Again and again, he found that corporate-backed lobbyists were able to subvert the clear preferences of the public and their elected representatives in both parties. Of all the areas these lobbyists were able to influence, the policy campaign that netted the most laws passed, featured the most big players, and boasted the most effective organizations was public education. For these U.S. corporations, undermining the public school system was the Holy Grail. After five years of research and the publication of The One Percent Solution , Lafer concluded that by lobbying to make changes like increasing class sizes, pushing for online instruction, lowering accreditation requirements for teachers, replacing public schools with privately-run charters, getting rid of publicly elected school boards and a host of other tactics, Big Business was aiming to dismantle public education. The grand plan was even more ambitious. These titans of business wished to completely change the way Americans and their children viewed their life potential. Transforming education was the key. The lobbyists and associations perfected cover stories to keep the public from knowing their real objectives. Step one was to raise fears about an American educational crisis that did not, in fact, exist. Lafer notes, for example, that the reading and math scores of American students have remained largely unchanged for forty years. Nonetheless, the corporate-backed alarmists worked to convince the public that the school system was in dire condition. Step two was to claim that unproven reforms to fix the fictional crisis, like online learning, were sure to improve outcomes, despite the fact that such schemes go directly against hard evidence for what works in education and deny students the socialization that is crucial to a child’s progress. Sometimes the reformers said the changes were needed because of budget deficits; other times, they claimed altruistic aims to improve the quality schools. In Lafer’s view, their strategy had little to do with either. *The Motivation: Keep the Masses Down as Inequality Rises* It’s one thing for big businesses to be anti-worker and anti-union, but also anti-student? Why would business lobbies deliberately strive to create what amounts to widespread education failure? It’s not hard to see how certain sectors in the corporate world, like the producers of online learning platforms and content, could cash in. But it’s harder to fathom why corporate leaders who don’t stand to make money directly would devote so much time and attention to making sure, for example, that no public high school student in the state of Florida could take home a diploma without taking an online course. (Yes, that’s now law in the Sunshine State). It’s about more than short-term cash. While Lafer acknowledges that there are legitimate debates among people with different ideological positions or pedagogical views, he thinks big corporations are actually more worried about something far more pragmatic: how to protect themselves from the masses as they engineer rising economic inequality. “One of the ways I think that they try to avoid a populist backlash is by lowering everybody’s expectations of what we have a right to demand as citizens,” says Lafer. “When you think about what Americans think we have a right to, just by living here, it’s really pretty little. Most people don’t think you have a right to healthcare or a house. You don’t necessarily have a right to food and water. But people think you have a right to have your kids get a decent education.” Not for long, if Big Business has its way. In President Trump and Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, they have dedicated partners in redirecting public resources to unregulated, privately owned and operated schools. Such privatization plans, many critics say, will reinforce and amplify America’s economic inequality. U.S. public schools, which became widespread in the 1800s, were promoted with the idea that putting students from families of different income levels together—though not black Americans and other racial minorities until the 1950s—would instill a common sense of citizenship and national identity. But today, large corporations are scoring huge successes in replacing this system with a two-tiered model and a whole new notion of identity. Lafer explains that in the new system, the children of the wealthy will be taught a broad, rich curriculum in small classes led by experienced teachers. The kind of thing everybody wants for kids. But the majority of America’s children will be consigned to a narrow curriculum delivered in large classes by inexperienced staff —or through digital platforms with no teachers at all. Most kids will be trained for a life that is more circumscribed, less vibrant, and, quite literally, shorter, than what past generations have known. (Research shows that the lifespan gap between haves and have-nots is large and rapidly growing). They will be groomed for insecure service jobs that dull their minds and depress their spirits. In the words of Noam Chomsky, who recently spoke about education to the Institute for New Economic Thinking (INET), “students will be controlled and disciplined.” Most will go to school without developing their creativity or experiencing doing things on their own. *The New Reality: Two Americas, Not One* Economist Peter Temin, former head of MIT’s economics department and INET grantee , has written a book, The Vanishing Middle Class , which explains how conditions in America are becoming more like a third-world country for the bulk of its people. He agrees with Lafer that the corporate-driven war on public schools is not just about money, but also about a vision of society. People like Betsy DeVos, he says, are following the thinking of earlier ideologues like James Buchanan, the Tennessee-born, Nobel Prize–winning economist who promoted current antigovernment politics in the 1970s. The “shut-the-government-down” obsession is really an extreme form of libertarianism, he says, if not anarchism. Temin also agrees that shrinking the horizons of America’s kids makes sense to people who follow this philosophy. “They want to exploit the lower members of the economy, and reducing their expectations makes them easier to manipulate,” says Temin. “When they aren’t able to go to college and get decent jobs, they become more susceptible to things like racist ideology.” In other words, dismantling the public schools is all about control. Buchanan was an early proponent of school privatization, and while he echoed the fears and frustration many Americans felt concerning desegregation, he typically made a non-race-based case for preserving Jim Crow in a new form. He argued that the federal government should not be telling people what to do about schooling and suggested that citizens were being stripped of their freedom. But as Sam Tanenhaus points out in The Atlantic, issues of race always lurked in the background of calls for educational freedom and “choice.” In a paper he co-authored, Buchanan stated, “every individual should be free to associate with persons of his own choosing.” Segregationists knew what that meant. Policies that end up reducing educational opportunities for those who lack resources creates inequality, and economic inequality reduces support for public schools among the wealthy. It’s a vicious feedback loop. In his book, Temin describes a process that happens in countries that divide into “dual economies,” a concept first outlined by West Indian economist W. Arthur Lewis, the only person of African descent to win a Nobel Prize in economics. Lewis studied developing countries where the rural population tends to serve as a reservoir of cheap labor for people in cities — a situation the top tier works very hard to maintain. Temin noticed that the Lewis model now fits the pattern emerging in the richest country in the world. America, according to Temin, is clearly breaking down into two sectors: Roughly 20% of the population are members of what he calls the “FTE sector” (i.e., the finance, technology, and electronics sectors). These lucky people get college educations, land good jobs, enjoy social networks that enhance their success, and generally have access to enough money to meet most of life’s challenges. The remaining 80% live in a world nothing like this; they live in different geographies and have different legal statuses, healthcare systems, and schools. This is the low-wage sector, where life is getting harder. People in the low-wage sector carry debt. They worry about insecure jobs and unemployment. They get sick more often and die younger than previous generations had. If they are able go to college, they end up in debt. “While members of the first sector act,” Temin has said , “these people are acted upon.” Temin traces the emergence of the U.S. dual economy to the 1970s and 80s, when civil rights advances were making a lot of Americans uneasy. People who had long been opposed to the New Deal began to find new ways to advance their agenda. The Nixon administration gave momentum to anti-government, free market fundamentalist ideologies, which gained even more support under Reagan. Gradually, as free-market programs became policy, the rich began to get richer and economic inequality began to rise. Economist Paul Krugman has called this phenomenon the “Great Divergence .” But it was still possible to move from the lower sector to the affluent sector. The path was tough, and much harder for women and people of color. Yet it existed. Through education and a bit of luck, you could develop the skills and acquire the social capital that could propel you out of the circumstances you were born into. The dismantling of public education, as Temin sees it, will shut off that route for vastly more people. Like the privatization of prisons, which has increased incarceration rates and cut the mobility path off for more Americans, putting schools into private hands will land even more on the road to nowhere. Even those who were born into the middle class will increasingly get pushed back. *The Future: Mobilization or Bloodshed?* Temin relates that in human history, unitary economies are more the exception than the rule. In the U.S., there was the Jim Crow era, the Gilded Age, and before that, slavery, which was an extreme form of dual economy. But from the end of WWII through the 1960s, the country began to develop a unitary economy. The idea that everybody should have opportunities became more and more widespread. But there was a backlash, and America still dealing with it. In the Lewis model of the dual economy, there is still path to the upper sector, but Temin warns that America may be on the way to going one step further. “If you really prevent people from moving up, you get something that looks like Russia or Argentina,” he says. In these two-tiered societies, life is difficult for most people. Life expectancies for all but the affluent go down. Unfortunately, once you’ve developed a dual economy, getting out of it isn’t pretty. Temin notes that it often happens through devastating wars. “Sometimes the kings who are all cousins turn on each other,” he says. “Other times, the leaders sleepwalk into the war as Trump could possibly do with North Korea.” Such upheavals create instability that sometimes opens up the possibility of restructuring society for the benefit of more people. But it’s a painful, bloody process. Political mobilization can work, but it’s very hard to get various groups who are dissatisfied to join forces. Lafer points out that we don’t yet know how this story is going to turn out. “Politics remains forever contingent, never settled,” he says. “The struggle between public interest and private power will continue to play out in cities and states across the country; even with the heightened influence of money in the era of Citizens United, the power of popular conviction should not be underestimated.” The teachers in West Virginia and now other states across the country have turned the anger fueled by the corporate vision of the future in a positive direction. They are fighting back, peacefully, and winning something—not just money, but a sense of dignity suited to the job of preparing the country’s kids for life. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Chancellor Robert J. Jones Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 4:53 PM Subject: MASSMAIL - Association of American Universities Statement on Free Speech on Campus [https://illinois.edu/skinDesigner/files/23365/massmail_blocki-book.png] Dear Faculty, Students and Staff: At the meeting of the Association of American Universities this past week, the chancellors and presidents crafted a statement strongly affirming our commitment to supporting free speech and open expression on our respective campuses. It is particularly appropriate timing coming in the same week we held a Critical Conversation on this topic. I believe this statement that I share with you below reflects our own values and aspirations here at Illinois. As a university community, we must remain committed to creating an environment where every idea can be heard and where every individual has the freedom to voice a perspective. Sincerely, Robert J. Jones Chancellor AAU PRESIDENTS AND CHANCELLORS REAFFIRM COMMITMENT TO FREE SPEECH ON CAMPUS April 18, 2018 The free and open exchange of ideas and information is fundamental to the educational mission of AAU universities. The robust discussions and debates that occur at research universities have been central to the advancement of democracy, the creation of new knowledge, the fostering of educational excellence, and the promotion of social progress. As heads of these institutions we are unequivocally committed to preserving and honoring this proud heritage. While we may deem some speech to be odious, disgraceful, and antithetical to our values, our campuses are and should remain places where ideas can be expressed free of disruption, intimidation, and violence. We are committed to preparing our students, faculty, and staff to engage in thoughtful, non-disruptive debate. Our collective responsibility to educate our campus communities on their rights and responsibilities is of the utmost importance and one we embrace. While protecting the expression of ideas, we will also take all steps necessary to promote an inclusive and non-discriminatory learning environment, and protect our communities from those who seek to promote conflict rather than conversation, debate, and advocacy. We will continue to prepare students, faculty, and staff to engage in frank, open, and often challenging discussions. Our universities will also work to ensure that campus policies on speech, events, dissent, and other protected activities are publicly and conveniently available. We believe these actions are critical for our institutions to remain at the forefront of ensuring that substantive and non-violent speech is fully protected and welcomed in our society. 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In addition, DirtyDersh has repeatedly called for and incited the destruction of Palestinian Villages, which is a Nuremberg War Crime for which we prosecuted, convicted and executed Nazi War Criminals at Nuremberg in accordance with Article 6(b) of the Nuremberg Charter, to wit: b) WAR CRIMES: namely, violations of the laws or customs of war. Such violations shall include, but not be limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation to slave labor or for any other purpose of civilian population of or in occupied territory, murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity; So of course DirtyDersh deserves a Swastika for what he has done to the Palestinians! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 8:36 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: NEWS GAZOO: CHEMMY & HIS ENDOWED CHAIR WAR CRIMINAL JOHN YOO/ GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 As for Chemmy and his self-styled “hate speech letters”, My Dear Chemmy, please tell us all: How many letters have you put into the mailboxes for the faculty and students at Berkeley Law denouncing your Endowed Chair War Criminal John Yoo? The Entire Berkeley Law Faculty is Sick and Demented! Fab. Ode to My Colleague and Friend Frank Newman Way to go Berkeley Law! Deeming Yourselves above The Law Your Dean Frank Newman now crying in Heaven Berkeley Law can go to Hell! Accessories After The Fact to torture, murder and war crimes Law Prof Carl Schmitt would be proud of You All The Nazis had Their Law Schools too Replete with John Yoo Killer Koh’s poo RIP Berkeley Law Into the Ashcan of History You All go Good Riddance to Cal’s Nazi scheisse! Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 7:49 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: [Peace-discuss] NEWS GAZOO: STONER IS A BALD-FACED LIAR! GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 “…Students then...pushed the university {of Chicago} to condemn the Vietnam War as immoral, but administrators argued that universities should not pick sides on public policy issues unless they directly affect the school. A university, they said should be a place where the faculty and students feel free to advocate positions they believe in, and the school shouldn’t judge which are right and wrong, he {Stoner} said.” …At the behest of its Straussian Neo-Con Political Science Department, in 1979 the entire University of Chicago went out of its way to grant the "first Albert Pick Jr. Award for Outstanding Contributions to International Understanding" to Robert McNamara, who was personally responsible for exterminating 3 million Vietnamese and 58,000 men of my generation. In other words, the University of Chicago itself maliciously strove to rehabilitate one of the greatest international war criminals in the post-World War II era. History shall always record that the University of Chicago gratuitously honored Bob Half-an-Eichmann McNamara…. Stoner is a Bald-Faced Liar and he knows it! FAB, AB, Political Science, UChicago, 1971/72 Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:54 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo::Chemmy's Yoo & Sexist Stoner GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 “{Stoner} was also one of the lawyers who represented President Bill Clinton in the Supreme Court in Clinton v. Jones.” Yeah, Stoner is a Sexist too. The Lawyer for #MeToo Clinton. The Panel is “moderated” by the Yale Law Mafia Dean of the Illiniwaks Killer Koh Law School Iceman Amar who publicly came out nationwide against the Sanctuary Movement that protects 10,000 Undocumented Migrants here in Champaign County alone. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 Chemmy is Dean of Berkeley Law School, where the Berkeley Law Faculty maliciously gave their most prestigious endowed Chair to John Yoo, Bush Jr.’s Torture Lawyer, War Criminal and Felon. Chemmy is knowingly permitting War Criminal Yoo to turn his Berkeley Law Students into Torturers, War Criminals and Felons just like Chemmy’s Endowed Professor Yoo. How dare Chemmy come in here and lecture us about Genocidal Chief Illiniwak! Stoner was Provost and Law Dean at the right-wing, racist, bigoted, reactionary, pro- apartheid University of Chicago that adamantly refused to Divest from the Criminal Apartheid Regime in South Africa and was proud of it, and also continues to practice Urban Apartheid against the surrounding African American Communities. How dare Stoner come in here and lecture us about Genocidal Chief Illiniwak! Fab, AB, UChicago, 1971 Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Turner, Carolyn Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:20 AM To: Law * College of Law Community > Subject: “Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 Event date is TUESDAY, April 17. “CHANCELLOR’S CRITICAL CONVERSATIONS” FEATURING ERWIN CHEMERINSKY AND GEOFFREY STONE Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12 – 1 p.m. Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, Colwell Playhouse 500 South Goodwin Avenue Urbana, Illinois The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign will host a conversation on the topic of free speech on April 17 in Colwell Playhouse at Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, 500 S. Goodwin Avenue in Urbana. Speakers will be Erwin Chemerinsky, the dean of the University of California, Berkeley School of Law; and Geoffrey Stone, a former law school dean and former provost at the University of Chicago. The conversation will be moderated by University of Illinois College of Law dean Vikram D. Amar. “Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” is a series of events designed to explore difficult issues and answer challenging questions together, as a university community. The goal of each event is to challenge beliefs, opinions and viewpoints through careful listening and the thoughtful expression of different voices, perspectives and ideas. Sponsored by the Office of the Chancellor. Event is free and open to the public. Registration is not required. Parking is available in the Krannert Center parking garage and at metered spaces surrounding the Center. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Apr 19 01:43:16 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 01:43:16 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Challenging the Russiagate Narrative Message-ID: The phenomenon known as “Russiagate” is a ubiquitous, viral narrative that dominates the corporate news cycle and penetrates many layers of popular discourse. From server hacking to BOT farms, from Facebook ads to Pokémon Go, Russia’s nefarious influence seems to reach everywhere. But despite the multitude of claims, accusations of Russian influence have been dubious and have fallen apart over time. So why does the Russiagate narrative persist? Join the Party for Socialism and Liberation C-U for a presentation that probes both the past and present for answers. We will be discussing post-Soviet relations between Eastern Europe and the West and how these events set the stage for the current political climate, the timeline of Russiagate events, and the political utility of the Russiagate narrative and its consequences. A question and answer segment will follow. We urge anyone who is interested in understanding both domestic and international politics to attend this event to learn and discuss the origins, substance, and ramifications of the Russiagate phenomenon. We hope to see you Sunday, April 22nd at the IMC [https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/c0.0.751.395/p526x395/30582443_218834015362133_6690523934279860224_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGZ4jHuq77kjlKe_YhejCHLXUu9KTp_2wRb6ktEg7lwqkUl8e-3ZaPiQlwuAZaOUnq___vlIJQ7TNpvXxlL0Ke1-nJUmFi_BZ_0hnO_BKYF6w&oh=c0028ba18825ac5fd48022e4376f3e69&oe=5B577FB2] APR22 Going Challenging the Russiagate Narrative Sun 5 PM CDT · Urbana-Champaign Independent Media Center · Urbana, IL David, Augustus and 9 friends -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 14:27:41 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C. G. Estabrook ) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:27:41 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Israel's claims that Hamas is behind Gaza protests are lies References: <8d38ef747c2061bb9c6137961.3ee9067898.20180419121058.f56ac0e808.74872fbb@mail212.sea101.rsgsv.net> Message-ID: <758A6580-9AD0-462C-91BF-73CC33509220@gmail.com> Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Mondoweiss > Date: April 19, 2018 at 7:11:38 AM CDT > To: C. G. > Subject: Israel's claims that Hamas is behind Gaza protests are lies > Reply-To: > > > View this email in your browser > > > Great March of Return organizers: Israeli claims that Hamas is behind protests are lies > April 19, 2018 > > C. G., > > Here are the latest headlines from Mondoweiss: > The gas masks of the Great March of Return > Great March of Return organizers: Israeli claims that Hamas is behind protests are lies > The ‘Jewish nation’ is the central myth of Zionism. It needs to be dismantled. > Jewish leader refuses to debate BDS with young Jew, at J Street conference > Read More: > > The gas masks of the Great March of Return > By Adam Horowitz > > A photo essay of homemade gas masks demonstrates the creativity and resilience of Palestinian protesters demanding their rights in Gaza. > > Join the conversation > > > Great March of Return organizers: Israeli claims that Hamas is behind protests are lies > By Yumna Patel, Akram Al-Wa'ra and Nidal Wuheid > > As the Great March of Return enters its fourth week, Nabeel Diab of the National Commission to Break the Siege of Gaza tells Mondoweiss: “The Palestinian people are eager to achieve their freedom, their independence, and their right to return to the villages where they were forced out of 70 years ago.” Diab is a member of a grassroots organization of activists who helped plan the march. He says that Israeli government claims that the protests are Hamas-led "are lies, and are defamatory statements that have no basis in reality.” Diab tells Mondoweiss: “This march is the embodiment of popular action involving children, women, and involving all the Palestinians that refuse to accept the occupation of our land.” > > Join the conversation > > > The ‘Jewish nation’ is the central myth of Zionism. It needs to be dismantled. > By Jonathan Ofir > > Underneath all that Israel does lies a central notion - that of the 'Jewish nation'. It informs all that Israel does, and sits at the core of all its violations. Jonathan Ofir writes, this is the central myth that needs to be dismantled. > > Join the conversation > > > Jewish leader refuses to debate BDS with young Jew, at J Street conference > By Philip Weiss > > The shame of the Jewish establishment: Rep. Jan Schakowsky says she never used the word "occupation" before last year, while Jeremy Burton of a leading Boston Jewish organization brags of a policy of refusing to debate Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS), even with other Jews. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Apr 19 14:52:21 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 14:52:21 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: The film of Saturdays Anti-War March References: <1524086692776.69534@urbanaillinois.us> Message-ID: > > > > > Here's a link to the video https://youtu.be/qpLeESBiXoA > > > > From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Apr 19 15:35:34 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 15:35:34 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] 2 Questions: MASSMAIL - Conversation with Senior Leadership Team - April 24, 2018 Message-ID: Yeah, people should go and ask Illiniwak Chancellor Jones why he resurrected Chief Iliniwak twice during this academic year alone. As for the Dean of the Illiniwak Killer Koh Law School, someone should ask Iceman Amar why he came out publicly and on a nationwide basis against the Sanctuary Movement that protects 10,000 Undocumented Human Beings in Champaign County Alone when previously (1) Governor Rauner had signed Legislation making the entire State of Illinois a Sanctuary State; (2) UI President Killeen had determined that the entire University of Illinois System—all 3 campuses—would be a de facto Sanctuary along the lines of the University of California System; and (3) Urbana had recently renewed its Status as a Sanctuary City for 30 years again in 2016 after having become one of the Original Sanctuary Cities in 1986--according to a USA Today Graphic, the only Sanctuary City between Chicago and New Orleans. Sorry I cannot make it then because I do all of my teaching and class preparations on Mondays and Tuesdays, including and especially International Human Rights Law. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Chancellor Robert J. Jones Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:19 AM Subject: MASSMAIL - Conversation with Senior Leadership Team - April 24, 2018 [https://illinois.edu/skinDesigner/files/23365/massmail_blocki-book.png] Dear Faculty, Staff and Students, As we near the conclusion of this academic year, I invite you to join me for a public conversation with the senior leadership team of our university on Tuesday, April 24. Dean Vikram Amar will moderate a panel conversation around current campus issues with Provost Cangellaris, Vice Chancellor Benson, Vice Chancellor Brown Young, Interim Vice Chancellor Martinis and me. The event will conclude with questions from the audience. The conversation will be held April 24 from noon-1:00 p.m. in Illini Rooms B and C in the Illini Union. This has been designated as an “approved event." With prior approval and operations permitting, non-exempt civil service employees may attend the event without loss of pay. A sign language interpreter will be present. If you will need disability-related accommodations in order to participate in the program please contact the Office of Special Events (333-8834) or wilhelmb at illinois.edu. Early requests are strongly encouraged to allow sufficient time to meet your access needs. I hope you will be able to join us for this conversation. Sincerely, Robert J. Jones Chancellor This mailing approved by: Office of the Chancellor sent to: Everyone Massmail Archive • Massmail powered by Webtools -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Apr 19 16:32:28 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 16:32:28 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?cp1255?q?2_NEWS_GAZOO=3A_CHEMMY=27S_DEFENSE_OF_?= =?cp1255?q?WAR_CRIMINAL_DIRTY_DERSHOWITZ/_HIS_ENDOWED_CHAIR_WAR_CRIMINAL_?= =?cp1255?q?JOHN_YOO/_GENOCIDAL_CHIEF_ILLINIWAK=3A=93Chancellor=92s_Critic?= =?cp1255?q?al_Conversations=94_featuring_Erwin_Chemerinsky_and_Geoffrey_S?= =?cp1255?q?tone_-_TUESDAY=2C_April_17?= Message-ID: US Army Field Manual 27-10, The Laws of Land Warfare, sets forth the Rules of the Customary International Laws of War. Paragraph 500 therefore expressly provides that the “direct incitement” of a Nuremberg War Crime is a War Crime in its own right that is “punishable.” As you can see below DirtyDersh published an article in the Jerusalem Post that was directly intended to incite Numerous Nuremberg War Crimes against the Palestinians by Israel, which was a War Crime in its own right. So of course DirtyDersh deserves a Swastika for the war crimes he has perpetrated against the Palestinians. Chemmy appears to be just another Zionist defending a Zionist War Criminal and Zionist War Crimes against the Palestinians. Chemmy is entitled to absolutely no credibility whatsoever on anything. Fab. New response to Palestinian terrorism The Jerusalem Post ^ | 3/11/2002 | Alan M. Dershowitz Posted on ‎3‎/‎10‎/‎2002‎ ‎6‎:‎34‎:‎44‎ ‎PM by eclectic (March 11) - US Secretary of State Colin Powell is surely correct in pointing out that Israel's current policy has not succeeded in curbing terrorism. But Powell has suggested no alternative policy. Surely the US cannot expect Israel simply to absorb terrorist attacks without any response. In light of the willingness of suicide bombers to die in the process of killing Israelis, the traditional methods of deterrence and retaliation seem insufficient. To succeed, Israel must turn the Palestinian leadership and people against the use of terrorism and the terrorists themselves. One way to do this is to make terrorists directly bear the responsibility for losses inflicted on the Palestinian cause as a direct result of their terrorism. Here is my proposal. Israel should announce an immediate unilateral cessation in retaliation against terrorist attacks. This moratorium would be in effect for a short period, say four or five days, to give the Palestinian leadership an opportunity to respond to the new policy. It would also make it clear to the world that Israel is taking an important step in ending what has become a cycle of violence. Following the end of the moratorium, Israel would institute the following new policy if Palestinian terrorism were to resume. It will announce precisely what it will do in response to the next act of terrorism. For example, it could announce the first act of terrorism following the moratorium will result in the destruction of a small village which has been used as a base for terrorist operations. The residents would be given 24 hours to leave, and then troops will come in and bulldoze all of the buildings. The response will be automatic. The order will have been given in advance of the terrorist attacks and there will be no discretion. The point is to make the automatic destruction of the village the fault of the Palestinian terrorists who had advance warnings of the specific consequences of their action. The soldiers would simply be acting as the means for carrying out a previously announced policy of retaliation against a designated target. Further acts of terrorism would trigger further destruction of specifically named locations. The "waiting list" targets would be made public and circulated throughout the Palestinian-controlled areas. If this automatic policy of destroying targets announced in advance is carried out with the full support of the entire government, including those who are committed to a resumption of the peace process, a clear message will be sent to the Palestinian people: Every time terrorists blow themselves up and kill civilians, they are also blowing up one of their own villages. Over time, the Palestinian residents of these villages will place the blame where it should be placed: directly on the Palestinian terrorists who engaged in terrorism against Israel with full knowledge the consequence would be the destruction of their homes. Those villagers whose homes were coming up on the list would have an incentive to pressure the terrorists to desist. An alternative approach would be to announce in advance that Israel is prepared to give back most of the occupied territory in the event of peace - which it has already essentially done - but every act of terrorism will result in an automatic and permanent decrease of a specific portion of the land mass that eventually would constitute the Palestinian state. Again, this decision would have to be announced in advance with the approval of all Israeli parties who would be involved in a peace deal. The land that would be surrendered by the future Palestinian state to Israel in response to every terrorist act would be immediately annexed to Israel and be deemed a permanent part of the Jewish state, ceded to it by the deliberate acts of the terrorists. This would send a clear message that every act of terrorism will hurt the Palestinian cause, making a reality out of President George W. Bush's statement following the terrorist murder of Daniel Pearl: "[Terrorists] need to know that these crimes only hurt their cause." For this policy to work, it must have the advance approval of the US government. If Israel carries out this policy after a moratorium on retaliation and full notice to the Palestinians, it should not be criticized for doing so. If the entire world knows this is the policy and that it will be enforced automatically, and that the decision whether to trigger it in any given case rests completely with those who would engage in acts of terrorism against Israel, then pressure will be brought to bear on Palestinian terrorists to refrain from their intended actions. For this policy to work, it must be accompanied by a genuine effort to reopen realistic peace talks with the Palestinian Authority. Such a double-edged policy would contribute to two noble causes at the same time: helping to reduce terrorism and promoting peace between the Israelis and Palestinians. (The writer is a professor of law at Harvard. His latest book is Shouting Fire: Civil Liberties in a Turbulent Age.) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 7:33 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: NEWS GAZOO: CHEMMY'S DEFENSE OF WAR CRIMINAL DIRTY DERSHOWITZ/ HIS ENDOWED CHAIR WAR CRIMINAL JOHN YOO/ GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 DirtyDersh has admitted that he is a member of a Mossad Committee that approves the murder and assassination of Palestinians, which is a war crime. In addition, DirtyDersh has repeatedly called for and incited the destruction of Palestinian Villages, which is a Nuremberg War Crime for which we prosecuted, convicted and executed Nazi War Criminals at Nuremberg in accordance with Article 6(b) of the Nuremberg Charter, to wit: b) WAR CRIMES: namely, violations of the laws or customs of war. Such violations shall include, but not be limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation to slave labor or for any other purpose of civilian population of or in occupied territory, murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity; So of course DirtyDersh deserves a Swastika for what he has done to the Palestinians! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 8:36 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: NEWS GAZOO: CHEMMY & HIS ENDOWED CHAIR WAR CRIMINAL JOHN YOO/ GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 As for Chemmy and his self-styled “hate speech letters”, My Dear Chemmy, please tell us all: How many letters have you put into the mailboxes for the faculty and students at Berkeley Law denouncing your Endowed Chair War Criminal John Yoo? The Entire Berkeley Law Faculty is Sick and Demented! Fab. Ode to My Colleague and Friend Frank Newman Way to go Berkeley Law! Deeming Yourselves above The Law Your Dean Frank Newman now crying in Heaven Berkeley Law can go to Hell! Accessories After The Fact to torture, murder and war crimes Law Prof Carl Schmitt would be proud of You All The Nazis had Their Law Schools too Replete with John Yoo Killer Koh’s poo RIP Berkeley Law Into the Ashcan of History You All go Good Riddance to Cal’s Nazi scheisse! Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 7:49 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: [Peace-discuss] NEWS GAZOO: STONER IS A BALD-FACED LIAR! GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 “…Students then...pushed the university {of Chicago} to condemn the Vietnam War as immoral, but administrators argued that universities should not pick sides on public policy issues unless they directly affect the school. A university, they said should be a place where the faculty and students feel free to advocate positions they believe in, and the school shouldn’t judge which are right and wrong, he {Stoner} said.” …At the behest of its Straussian Neo-Con Political Science Department, in 1979 the entire University of Chicago went out of its way to grant the "first Albert Pick Jr. Award for Outstanding Contributions to International Understanding" to Robert McNamara, who was personally responsible for exterminating 3 million Vietnamese and 58,000 men of my generation. In other words, the University of Chicago itself maliciously strove to rehabilitate one of the greatest international war criminals in the post-World War II era. History shall always record that the University of Chicago gratuitously honored Bob Half-an-Eichmann McNamara…. Stoner is a Bald-Faced Liar and he knows it! FAB, AB, Political Science, UChicago, 1971/72 Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:54 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo::Chemmy's Yoo & Sexist Stoner GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 “{Stoner} was also one of the lawyers who represented President Bill Clinton in the Supreme Court in Clinton v. Jones.” Yeah, Stoner is a Sexist too. The Lawyer for #MeToo Clinton. The Panel is “moderated” by the Yale Law Mafia Dean of the Illiniwaks Killer Koh Law School Iceman Amar who publicly came out nationwide against the Sanctuary Movement that protects 10,000 Undocumented Migrants here in Champaign County alone. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:33 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: GENOCIDAL CHIEF ILLINIWAK:“Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 Chemmy is Dean of Berkeley Law School, where the Berkeley Law Faculty maliciously gave their most prestigious endowed Chair to John Yoo, Bush Jr.’s Torture Lawyer, War Criminal and Felon. Chemmy is knowingly permitting War Criminal Yoo to turn his Berkeley Law Students into Torturers, War Criminals and Felons just like Chemmy’s Endowed Professor Yoo. How dare Chemmy come in here and lecture us about Genocidal Chief Illiniwak! Stoner was Provost and Law Dean at the right-wing, racist, bigoted, reactionary, pro- apartheid University of Chicago that adamantly refused to Divest from the Criminal Apartheid Regime in South Africa and was proud of it, and also continues to practice Urban Apartheid against the surrounding African American Communities. How dare Stoner come in here and lecture us about Genocidal Chief Illiniwak! Fab, AB, UChicago, 1971 Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Turner, Carolyn Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:20 AM To: Law * College of Law Community > Subject: “Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” featuring Erwin Chemerinsky and Geoffrey Stone - TUESDAY, April 17 Event date is TUESDAY, April 17. “CHANCELLOR’S CRITICAL CONVERSATIONS” FEATURING ERWIN CHEMERINSKY AND GEOFFREY STONE Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12 – 1 p.m. Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, Colwell Playhouse 500 South Goodwin Avenue Urbana, Illinois The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign will host a conversation on the topic of free speech on April 17 in Colwell Playhouse at Krannert Center for the Performing Arts, 500 S. Goodwin Avenue in Urbana. Speakers will be Erwin Chemerinsky, the dean of the University of California, Berkeley School of Law; and Geoffrey Stone, a former law school dean and former provost at the University of Chicago. The conversation will be moderated by University of Illinois College of Law dean Vikram D. Amar. “Chancellor’s Critical Conversations” is a series of events designed to explore difficult issues and answer challenging questions together, as a university community. The goal of each event is to challenge beliefs, opinions and viewpoints through careful listening and the thoughtful expression of different voices, perspectives and ideas. Sponsored by the Office of the Chancellor. Event is free and open to the public. Registration is not required. Parking is available in the Krannert Center parking garage and at metered spaces surrounding the Center. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Apr 19 17:12:52 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 17:12:52 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Roger Waters and Max Blumenthal on the "White Helmets" Message-ID: [https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.04/article/5ad857e1dda4c8783c8b4634.jpg] Roger Waters © Mario Anzuoni / Reuters * 5236 * * 42 * * * * Emails have emerged revealing how the controversial Syrian activist group the White Helmets tried to lobby Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters with Saudi money. The revelations have been published on Max Blumenthal’s project. In an email from October 2016, Roger Waters is invited to a fundraiser organized by Saudi billionaire Hani Farsi to honor the work of the White helmets. In it, he is also encouraged to watch a documentary about the group. And it didn't stop there - just days before his recent concert in Barcelona, Waters was contacted by a French journalist working for the White Helmets. The reporter asked Waters for a few moments on stage to deliver a message to the children of Syria. White Helmets Emails to Roger Waters by RT America on Scribd Rogers did not respond to either email, according to journalist Max Blumenthal, who obtained the messages. Instead of giving the stage to the White Helmets during his Barcelona concert, Waters denounced the organization. “The White Helmets is a fake organization that exists only to create propaganda for jihadists and terrorists. That’s my belief. We have opposing beliefs,” he said. “If we were to listen to the propaganda of the White Helmets and others, we would be encouraged to encourage our governments to start dropping bombs on people in Syria. This would be a mistake of monumental proportions for us as human beings,” he added. Read more [Musician Roger Waters performs at Staples Center in Los Angeles, California, US, June 20, 2017. © Mario Anzuoni]Ex-Pink Floyd singer denounces White Helmets as propaganda tool during Barcelona concert (VIDEO) Blumenthal told RT that the White Helmets “are operating on the ground alongside Al-Qaeda and their allies, and these are just documented facts. For the first time, a mainstream figure on an international stage on the eve of war has validated what we’ve been reporting and he did so in Barcelona to loud cheers from the audience that was opposed to a war waged against international law, without the approval of the parliaments of the governments that launched the war. “And the White Helmets were the only source that these governments were relying on to justify their attacks. This was an enormously rousing speech by Roger Waters that has legitimized the journalism that we’ve been so mercilessly attacked for publishing and it’s forced those who attacked us and accused of being conspiracists to actually look at what we’ve reported. And they really have nothing to say back to us, they can’t simply dismiss it as a Kremlin conspiracy anymore, when Roger Waters is saying this.” Speaking to Blumenthal’s Grayzone Project, Waters urged celebrities who had already endorsed the White Helmets to reconsider their support for the group. “I don’t blame them for having bought in to it. On the face of it, it felt plausible that the White Helmets were just good people doing good things. But now we know they’re trying to encourage the West to drops bombs and missiles illegally in Syria.” Waters told Blumenthal that he had concluded that the Syria Campaign was “a malign organization funded by people who hope to gain from the ouster of Bashar Assad – because once he’s gone, it will be open season for the stealing of the assets of a failed state.” The White Helmets was the first group to report on the alleged chemical attack in Douma. Although it's been widely praised in the West for its rescue work, its members have repeatedly been accused of having links to extremist groups. Blumenthal said the emails vindicated journalists such as himself, who have questioned the White Helmets’ image as a humanitarian ‘civil defense’ organization. “For years, journalists including myself have been reporting on the danger of the White Helmets, how this Western-funded organization, funded by Western and Gulf governments, has basically been an instrument of encouraging regime change,” Blumenthal told RT. “It’s not just a group of average volunteer rescue workers, it’s an international influence organization whose representatives show up in Congress to lobby for no-fly zones and sanctions on Syria, as well as parliaments across Europe.” -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Apr 20 03:22:38 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 03:22:38 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Event "Challenging the Russiagate Narrative" this Sunday @ 5:00PM References: Message-ID: The phenomenon known as “Russiagate” is a ubiquitous, viral narrative that dominates the corporate news cycle and penetrates many layers of popular discourse. From server hacking to BOT farms, from Facebook ads to Pokémon Go, Russia’s nefarious influence seems to reach everywhere. But despite the multitude of claims, accusations of Russian influence have been dubious and have fallen apart over time. So why does the Russiagate narrative persist? Join the Party for Socialism and Liberation C-U for a presentation that probes both the past and present for answers. We will be discussing post-Soviet relations between Eastern Europe and the West and how these events set the stage for the current political climate, the timeline of Russiagate events, and the political utility of the Russiagate narrative and its consequences. A question and answer segment will follow. We urge anyone who is interested in understanding both domestic and international politics to attend this event to learn and discuss the origins, substance, and ramifications of the Russiagate phenomenon. We hope to see you Sunday, April 22nd at the IMC [https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/c0.0.751.395/p526x395/30582443_218834015362133_6690523934279860224_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGZ4jHuq77kjlKe_YhejCHLXUu9KTp_2wRb6ktEg7lwqkUl8e-3ZaPiQlwuAZaOUnq___vlIJQ7TNpvXxlL0Ke1-nJUmFi_BZ_0hnO_BKYF6w&oh=c0028ba18825ac5fd48022e4376f3e69&oe=5B577FB2] APR22 Going Challenging the Russiagate Narrative Sun 5 PM CDT · Urbana-Champaign Independent Media Center · Urbana, IL David, Augustus and 9 friends _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Apr 20 03:42:29 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 03:42:29 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Trumps secret diplomacy with North Korea/The Greanville Post. by Peter Symonds, wows.org Message-ID: Trump’s secret diplomacy with North Korea April 19, 2018 Posted by Addison dePitt [http://www.greanvillepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Opposecapitalism5.jpg][http://www.greanvillepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/grayslateBand.jpg] BE SURE TO PASS THESE ARTICLES TO FRIENDS AND KIN. A LOT DEPENDS ON THIS. DO YOUR PART. By Peter Symonds, wsws.org ________________________________ [http://www.greanvillepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Trump-Pompeo-KimYung-un.png] ________________________________ Just months after threatening North Korea with nuclear annihilation, US President Donald Trump confirmed that CIA Director Mike Pompeo had visited Pyongyang over Easter and met with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in preparation for a projected Trump-Kim summit. Having derided former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson for “wasting his time” in trying to negotiate with North Korea, Trump is now preparing to meet face-to-face with the leader he ridiculed as “Little Rocket Man.” The abrupt about-face does not express any fundamental change of heart on the part of Trump, who has just unleashed illegal missile strikes on Syria. Rather the Trump administration senses the possibility of advancing US imperialism’s interests and strengthening its position in North East Asia against its chief rivals, Russia and China, and potential competitors such as Japan. Trump’s overtures to the Pyongyang regime parallel the sudden turn by the right-wing US President Richard Nixon toward China. Nixon’s national security adviser Henry Kissinger conducted a series of secret trips to Beijing in 1971 to establish the basis for Nixon to meet with Chinese Communist Party chairman Mao Zedong in February 1972. Nixon’s rapprochement with China, which was aimed against the former Soviet Union, laid the basis for capitalist restoration in China and its transformation into the world’s premier cheap labour platform. It is by no means certain that a Trump-Kim summit will produce a deal between the two countries. While meeting with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Tuesday, Trump told the media that the summit would be a “great chance to solve a world problem,” adding: “We’ll either have a very good meeting or we won’t have a good meeting. And maybe we won’t even have a meeting at all, depending on what’s going on.” Nearly 50 years after the Nixon-Mao meeting, the US regards China as the chief obstacle to global hegemony. Under President Barack Obama and now Trump, the US has mounted a comprehensive diplomatic and economic offensive against China across the Indo-Pacific, calculated to undermine Chinese influence and prepare for war. In the past several months, there has been a rapid deterioration in relations with Beijing, featuring threats of trade war, and also with Russia over Syria, where the US is seeking to oust Moscow’s ally, Syrian President Bashir al-Assad. Since the dissolution of the former Soviet Union in 1991, the US has systematically isolated North Korea diplomatically and imposed crippling sanctions on its economy. The overriding aim of this strategy was not to end the supposed threat posed by the country’s tiny nuclear arsenal, but rather, by one means or another, to bring it into the US sphere of influence. Moreover, the US is certainly not preoccupied with the human rights abuses of the oppressive military/police-state regime in Pyongyang. Having strong-armed China into dramatically tightening the economic noose around its ally, Trump may well be calculating that he might be able to “flip” North Korea, transforming it from a US foe to an ally in Washington’s confrontation with China and Russia. In the rivalry for imperialist dominance in North East Asia, the Korean Peninsula, which borders both Russia and China, has always been critical strategically. The US-led Korean War of 1950–53, which cost millions of lives, was fought for domination of Korea. It was regarded in Washington as the precursor to a wider war against China, whose entry into the conflict dashed US hopes. Since Kim Jong-un came to power in 2012, North Korea’s relations with China have worsened markedly. Kim’s visit to Beijing last month to meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping was his first, and was no doubt aimed at shoring up his options ahead of the summit with Trump. The paramount aim of the North Korean regime in two decades of failed negotiations and deals has been self-preservation—a peace treaty to formally end the Korean War and security guarantees from Washington. In comments on Tuesday, Trump declared that he had given his “blessing” to South Korea to discuss a peace treaty in talks between Kim and South Korean President Moon Jae-in later this month. Significantly, Trump chose to reveal Pompeo’s trip to Pyongyang in the middle of his meetings with Japanese Prime Minister Abe. Just as Nixon blindsided Japan in announcing his trip to Beijing in 1972, Trump kept Abe in the dark—firstly over his announcement of a summit with Kim and now with his “extremely high level” secret diplomacy. Abe who has been just as bellicose toward North Korea as Trump, using its missile-testing as a pretext for remilitarisation, confronts the possibility of a Pyongyang-Washington deal that cuts across Japanese strategic interests. Trump’s shift on North Korea is bound up with his acute political crisis at home, as well as external geo-political considerations. Facing multiple scandals and ongoing attacks over his failure to take a tougher stance against Russia, Trump might see the opportunity to answer his critics by orchestrating a diplomatic coup to solve “a world problem”—to Washington’s advantage. His move is certain to provoke determined resistance from Trump’s factional opponents in ruling circles, as already indicated by the initial hostile reaction of the New York Times to Pompeo’s secret trip. It is too early to say what will emerge from a Trump-Kim summit, or even if it will go ahead. Amid the 1930s Great Depression and mounting dangers of war, international diplomacy was full of surprising twists and turns. Nazi leader Adoph Hitler signed a non-aggression pact with Poland in 1934 and another with the Soviet Union in 1939, only to break them both. If Trump is unable to cut a deal with the North Korean leader, the summit could rapidly become the setting for a US diplomatic provocation that triggers a devastating conflict on the Korean Peninsula, with incalculable wider consequences. The very fact that Trump has chosen Pompeo, who only last year hinted that the CIA had plans to “separate” Kim from his nuclear arsenal via assassination, is a warning that the pendulum could rapidly shift toward war. Even if Trump pulls off a diplomatic coup and reaches an agreement with Pyongyang, the least likely variant is that it will lead to a flowering of peace. Far more probable is that it will set the stage for a rapid intensification of the confrontation with US imperialism’s chief targets—China and Russia. —Peter Symonds -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bjornsona at ameritech.net Fri Apr 20 14:10:35 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (bjornsona at ameritech.net) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 09:10:35 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Naples, Italy mayor tells U. S. Navy no nuclear subs in Naples port. Message-ID: https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2018/04/19/naples-mayor-tells-us-navy-submarine-to-keep-out/ Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Apr 20 18:25:12 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 18:25:12 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: 2 Questions: MASSMAIL - Conversation with Senior Leadership Team - April 24, 2018 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: (Reuters) - A federal appeals court {7th Circuit covering us} on Thursday said the U.S. Justice Department cannot deny public safety grants to so-called sanctuary cities that limit cooperation with the Trump administration’s crackdown on illegal immigration. Exactly what I had advised the City of Urbana in both 1986 (under a public Nazi Death Threat) and again in 2016. And directly opposite to the public attempt taken by the “Dean” of the Illiniwak Killer Koh Law School, Iceman Amar, to sabotage our Sanctuary Movement that protects 10,000 Undocumented Human Beings in Champaign County Alone. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:36 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: [Peace-discuss] 2 Questions: MASSMAIL - Conversation with Senior Leadership Team - April 24, 2018 Yeah, people should go and ask Illiniwak Chancellor Jones why he resurrected Chief Iliniwak twice during this academic year alone. As for the Dean of the Illiniwak Killer Koh Law School, someone should ask Iceman Amar why he came out publicly and on a nationwide basis against the Sanctuary Movement that protects 10,000 Undocumented Human Beings in Champaign County Alone when previously (1) Governor Rauner had signed Legislation making the entire State of Illinois a Sanctuary State; (2) UI President Killeen had determined that the entire University of Illinois System—all 3 campuses—would be a de facto Sanctuary along the lines of the University of California System; and (3) Urbana had recently renewed its Status as a Sanctuary City for 30 years again in 2016 after having become one of the Original Sanctuary Cities in 1986--according to a USA Today Graphic, the only Sanctuary City between Chicago and New Orleans. Sorry I cannot make it then because I do all of my teaching and class preparations on Mondays and Tuesdays, including and especially International Human Rights Law. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Chancellor Robert J. Jones > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:19 AM Subject: MASSMAIL - Conversation with Senior Leadership Team - April 24, 2018 [https://illinois.edu/skinDesigner/files/23365/massmail_blocki-book.png] Dear Faculty, Staff and Students, As we near the conclusion of this academic year, I invite you to join me for a public conversation with the senior leadership team of our university on Tuesday, April 24. Dean Vikram Amar will moderate a panel conversation around current campus issues with Provost Cangellaris, Vice Chancellor Benson, Vice Chancellor Brown Young, Interim Vice Chancellor Martinis and me. The event will conclude with questions from the audience. The conversation will be held April 24 from noon-1:00 p.m. in Illini Rooms B and C in the Illini Union. This has been designated as an “approved event." With prior approval and operations permitting, non-exempt civil service employees may attend the event without loss of pay. A sign language interpreter will be present. If you will need disability-related accommodations in order to participate in the program please contact the Office of Special Events (333-8834) or wilhelmb at illinois.edu. Early requests are strongly encouraged to allow sufficient time to meet your access needs. I hope you will be able to join us for this conversation. Sincerely, Robert J. Jones Chancellor This mailing approved by: Office of the Chancellor sent to: Everyone Massmail Archive • Massmail powered by Webtools -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ATT00001.txt URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Apr 20 22:21:52 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 22:21:52 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Web Exclusive: Jimmy Dore Attacked By CNN In An Insane Way References: <2ab5175e797cf44579dae2f21.24d5dd889d.20180420214422.8446bf2770.92fe5435@mail86.sea21.rsgsv.net> Message-ID: Anyone opposing war is up for attack……… From: Lee Camp > Subject: Web Exclusive: Jimmy Dore Attacked By CNN In An Insane Way In an article mostly devoted to Nazis and pedophiles, CNN decided to also attack Jimmy Dore, host of The Jimmy Dore Show. Honestly, this is even a new low for CNN - which is saying a lot. I spoke with Jimmy Dore today in this Web Exclusive. Please take a moment to watch and share. (There are links for sharing in this email.) 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Apr 21 02:54:03 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 02:54:03 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?FW=3A_Analysts_Anticipate_Trump?= =?windows-1252?q?=92s_Greater_Military_Aggression_in_Syria=2C_Here=27s_Wh?= =?windows-1252?q?y_-_Sputnik_International?= Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 9:53 PM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: Analysts Anticipate Trump’s Greater Military Aggression in Syria, Here's Why - Sputnik International https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804211063771292-trump-syria-agression-forestate/ WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - Russia appears ready to lift its self-imposed ban on selling S-300 air defense systems to Syria as fears grow that the United States and its allies are massing their forces to attack the country again, analysts said. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told Sputnik on Friday that Moscow was no longer bound by a moral duty not to supply Damascus with S-300 air defense missile systems after last week's Western strikes on Syria. Supplying those weapons will contribute to the political stability of the Syrian government, Samer Shiha, a member of the Syrian People’s Assembly, told Sputnik later in the day. On April 13, the United States, assisted by France and the United Kingdom, fired 105 missiles at targets in Syria, while the US nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman and its task force are currently sailing toward the Eastern Mediterranean. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov © Sputnik / Maksim Blinov EXCLUSIVE: Putin, Trump Will Never Allow US-Russia Armed Conflict, Lavrov Says Washington said the strike was in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack in the Syrian city of Douma and blamed the Syrian government — but also Russia and Iran — for the incident. The Syrian government said it had not used chemical weapons and the incident was staged by the Jaish al-Islam terror group to pave the way for a foreign intervention in Syria. US PREPARING TO LAUNCH MORE ATTACKS ON SYRIA The missile strike against targets in Syria last week seems to be a prelude to additional attacks, University of Illinois Professor of International Law Francis Boyle cautioned. "It sounds like they will do it again," Boyle said. "The carrier strike force heading there: It should be there later this week. Why is the Truman heading over there right now at flank speed? It doesn’t look good." Boyle pointed out that the readiness of the United States and its allies to launch last week’s strike against Syria before undertaking any real investigation into who actually carried out the April 7 chemical attack in Douma encouraged all the jihadi groups in Syria to launch more such attacks. "[The strikes were] basically an invitation to aggressive jihad groups to stage another chemical weapons attack," Boyle said. "This was not a one off affair, as [Secretary of Defense James] Mattis claimed… It is a very dangerous situation." Boyle noted that the attack on Syria violated the terms of United Nations Charter and was a crime against international law. Also, "Under US constitutional law it clearly violates Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution. It is an impeachable offense: It contravenes US Army Field Manual 27-10 The Law of Land Warfare," he said. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad giving an interview. File photo © AFP 2018 / HO/SANA Assad Returns Legion of Honour Award to 'US Slave' France After Strikes on Syria The April 13 US bombing of Syria came as US President Donald Trump faced a new round of controversy over the accusations against him made by former FBI Director James Comey in his new book "A Higher Loyalty." "Why did Trump bomb on [April 13]? What was the rush? Trump knew full well Comey was publishing his memoirs: So he bombed. President [Bill] Clinton did exactly the same thing during the Monica Lewinsky matter in 1998. Barbara Ehrenreich then called it ‘The Bimbo Bombings,’" he said. Boyle predicted Trump was likely to resort again to bombing Syria in his efforts to distract the US public from Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller’s ongoing investigation into his affairs. "I am afraid we will probably be seeing more bombing by Mr. Trump as the whole Mueller-gate matter is not going away… It is important to understand the danger here Trump is in the same situation as Clinton. The danger is not past. Syria could become the Sarajevo of 1914," Boyle said. However, Trump’s political opponents and war hawks wanted to push the president into more strikes against the Damascus government, Boyle warned. "It does seem to me that they are using the Mueller investigation to pressure Trump to attack Syria," he said. US RUNNING RISKS OF 1914 SARAJEVO-STYLE ESCALATION From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sat Apr 21 03:14:48 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 22:14:48 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] War party hysteria, local implications Message-ID: <66084AF7-69D5-4EB6-9056-08EDE41DA17C@gmail.com> [War party hysteria to provoke Russia means that, in the fall election, one clearly should vote against the Democrats' controlling the US House of Representatives - even if that means voting for the ridiculous Republican incumbent in Illinois' 13th Congressional District.] TRUMP SCORES MAJOR NORTH KOREA POINTS; DEMS SUE WIKILEAKS FOR TELLING THE TRUTH – CAITLIN JOHNSTONE Damn. Democrats love losing more than Louise Mensch loves obsolete spy jargon. Pyongyang has just announced that it is suspending intercontinental ballistic missile and nuclear tests, and is closing down a nuclear testing site as a sign of good faith. President Trump was of course quick to jump on Twitter to congratulate himself, and his supporters are all enthusiastically cheering him on. As MIT professor Vipin Narang notes, the precise wording of the statement from the DPRK doesn’t necessarily preclude certain other types of testing. More importantly, this could all just be the first step toward Kim Jong Un winding up like another Gaddafi, who was destroyed by the western empire shortly after relinquishing Libya’s nuclear program. But neither of these things matter right now as far as public perception goes. It cannot be denied that Trump has secured major political points today. Meanwhile what are Trump’s political opponents doing to gain momentum leading up to the 2018 midterms? Why, they’re suing WikiLeaks for telling the truth about them. The Democratic party suing WikiLeaks for costing them the election is like an armed robbery convict suing a security camera company for getting him arrested. The emails it published are 100 percent authentic and entirely undisputed, and they consist of nothing other than Democratic party big wigs talking to one another. The documents published by WikiLeaks in 2016 showed an unquestionable violation of the DNC’s Impartiality Clause in the “us vs them” tone of the conversations in the more egregious DNC leaks, the Podesta emails showing that the DNC and the Clinton camp were colluding as early as 2014 to schedule debates and primaries in a way that favored her, and then-DNC Vice Chairwoman Donna Brazile acting as a mole against the Sanders campaign and passing Clinton questions in advance to prep her for debates with Sanders. It also revealed more broadly incriminating facts about the Democratic party in general, including the Clintons taking bribes from Qatar and Morocco and knowingly accepting funds from political bodies that arm ISIS, an email showing how a CitiGroup executive was responsible for selecting Obama’s acceptable cabinet picks, and Clinton’s infamous “public position and a private position” statement. Contrary to what their lawsuit claims, Democrats didn’t lose massively in 2016 because of a secret conspiracy between Russia, WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign to rob them of their rightful place on the throne, they lost massively in 2016 because people found out the truth about what the party is and how it operates. The fact that they are still masturbating this ridiculous delusion a year and a half later while Trump racks up a massive foreign policy win should concern everybody who understands that the Republican party is at least as evil and corrupt as the Democrats. The Democratic party has proven beyond all doubt that it has no interest in serving the American people and at this point exists only to protect the tiny empires of its leaders. There has been far more than enough time for it to have conducted a sincere autopsy of the 2016 catastrophe, do some serious soul searching, and make the necessary changes. The fact that it has not done so by now means that it will never do so. Leftwardly inclined Americans now have a decision to make: either (A) fully accept and support the Democratic party exactly as it is, corruption, warmongering and all so that they’ll have some small chance at beating the Republicans, or (B) let the party go the way of the Whigs and replace it with something completely different. If there’s one thing we have learned from this administration, it’s that scandals and blunders roll off Donald Trump’s strange skin like water off a duck’s back. It is unlikely that this administration will suffer any setbacks between now and the 2018 midterms large enough to offset the political wins he’s been scoring, and if suing WikiLeaks for telling the truth is the best the Dems have to offer, America had better make sure it has a purse that looks good with red states. ### From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Apr 21 20:06:09 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 20:06:09 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The day before Deraa: How the war broke out in Syria Message-ID: AUGUST 10 ,2016 BY STEVEN SAHIOUNIE The day before Deraa: How the war broke out in Syria 13.7K SHARES * 13.7K * * 0 * 0 * 0 * * [Daraa 5967c] The day before September 11, 2001 was like any normal day in New York City. September 10, 2001 was unaware of the earthshaking events which would happen the next day. Similarly, one might think the day before the violence broke out in Deraa, Syria in March 2011 would have been an uneventful day, unaware of the uprising about to begin. But, that was not the case. Deraa was teaming with activity and foreign visitors to Syria well before the staged uprising began its opening act. The Omari Mosque was the scene of backstage preparations, costume changes and rehearsals. The Libyan terrorists, fresh from the battlefield of the US-NATO regime change attack on Libya, were in Deraa well ahead of the March 2011 uprising violence. The cleric of the Omari Mosque was Sheikh Ahmad al Sayasneh . He was an older man with a severe eye problem, which caused him to wear special dark glasses, and severely hampered his vision. He was not only visually impaired, but light sensitive as well, which caused him to be indoors as much as possible and often isolated. He was accustomed to judging the people he talked with by their accent and voice. The Deraa accent is distinctive. All of the men attending the Omari Mosque were local men, all with the common Deraa accent. However, the visitors from Libya did not make themselves known to the cleric, as that would blow their cover. Instead, they worked with local men; a few key players who they worked to make their partners and confidants. The participation of local Muslim Brotherhood followers, who would assist the foreign Libyan mercenaries/terrorists, was an essential part of the CIA plan, which was well scripted and directed from Jordan. Enlisting the aid and cooperation of local followers of Salafism allowed the Libyans to move in Deraa without attracting any suspicion. The local men were the ‘front’ for the operation. MORE... * EXPERT: TRUMP AND ALLIES CANNOT ACCEPT DEFEAT IN SYRIA * TAKING THE WORLD TO THE BRINK OF ANNIHILATION * THE ‘HUMAN RIGHTS’ WAR ON SYRIA * BBC BETRAYS THE MOST BASIC JOURNALISTIC PRINCIPLES WHEN IT COMES TO SYRIA The CIA agents running the Deraa operation from their office in Jordan had already provided the weapons and cash needed to fuel the flames of revolution in Syria. With enough money and weapons, you can start a revolution anywhere in the world. In reality, the uprising in Deraa in March 2011 was not fueled by graffiti written by teenagers, and there were no disgruntled parents demanding their children to be freed. This was part of the Hollywood style script written by skilled CIA agents, who had been given a mission: to destroy Syria for the purpose of regime change. Deraa was only Act 1: Scene 1. The fact that those so-called teenaged graffiti artists and their parents have never been found, never named, and never pictured is the first clue that their identity is cloaked in darkness. In any uprising there needs to be grassroots support. Usually, there is a situation which arises, and protesters take to the streets. The security teams step in to keep the peace and clear the streets and if there is a ‘brutal crackdown’ the otherwise ‘peaceful protesters’ will react with indignation, and feeling oppressed and wronged, the numbers in the streets will swell. This is the point where the street protests can take two directions: the protesters will back down and go home, or the protesters can react with violence, which then will be met with violence from the security teams, and this sets the stage for a full blown uprising. The staged uprising in Deraa had some locals in the street who were unaware of their participation in a CIA-Hollywood production. They were the unpaid extras in the scene about to be shot. These unaware extras had grievances, perhaps lasting a generation or more, and perhaps rooted in Wahhabism, which is a political ideology exported globally by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the Royal family and their paid officials. The Libyans stockpiled weapons at the Omari Mosque well before any rumor spread about teenagers arrested for graffiti. The cleric, visually impaired and elderly, was unaware of the situation inside his Mosque, or of the foreign infiltrators in his midst. Also read: What Was the Trigger for Violence in Syria? The weapons came into Deraa from the CIA office in Jordan. The US government has close ties to the King of Jordan. Jordan is 98% Palestinian, and yet has a long lasting peace treaty with Israel, despite the fact that 5 million of the Jordanian citizen’s relatives next door in Occupied Palestine are denied any form of human rights. The King of Jordan has to do a daily high-wire balancing act between his citizens, the peace and safety in his country and America’s interests and projects in the Middle East. King Abdullah is not only a tight-rope walker, but a juggler at the same time, and all of this pressure on him must be enormous for him, and Queen Rania, who is herself Palestinian. These facts must be viewed in the forefront of the background painted scenery of The Syrian Arab Republic, which has for the last 40 years had a cornerstone of domestic and foreign policy carved and set in the principle of Palestinian human rights and Palestinian freedom and justice. The US policy to attack Syria for the purpose of regime change was not just about the gas lines, the oil wells, the strategic location and the gold: but it was about crushing that cornerstone of Palestinian rights into dust. To get rid of President Bashar al Assad was to get rid of one of the few Arab leaders who are an unwavering voice of Palestinian rights. Deraa’s location directly on the Jordanian border is the sole reason it was picked for the location-shoot of the opening act of the Syrian uprising. If you were to ask most Syrians, if they had ever been to Derra, or ever plan to go, they will answer, “No.” It is a small and insignificant agricultural town. It is a very unlikely place to begin a nationwide revolution. Deraa has a historical importance because of archeological ruins, but that is lost on anyone other than history professors or archeologists. The access to the weapons from Jordan made Deraa the perfect place to stage the uprising which has turned into an international war. Any person with common sense would assume an uprising or revolution in Syria would begin in Damascus or Aleppo, the two biggest cities. Even after 2 ½ years of violence around the country, Aleppo’s population never participated in the uprising, or call for regime change. Aleppo: the large industrial powerhouse of Syria wanted nothing to do with the CIA mission, and felt that by staying clear of any participation they could be spared and eventually the violence would die out, a natural death due to lack of participation of the civilians. However, this was not to play out for Aleppo. Instead, the US supported Free Syrian Army, who were mainly from Idlib and the surrounding areas, invited in their foreign partners, and they came pouring into Aleppo from Turkey, where they had taken Turkish Airlines flights from Afghanistan, Europe, Australia and North Africa landing in Istanbul, and then transported by buses owned by the Turkish government to the Turkey-Aleppo border. The airline tickets, buses, paychecks, supplies, food, and medical needs were all supplied in Turkey by an official from Saudi Arabia. The weapons were all supplied by the United States of America, from their warehouse at the dock of Benghazi, Libya. The US-NATO regime change mission had ended in success in Libya, with America having taken possession of all the weapons and stockpiles formerly the property of the Libyan government, including tons of gold bullion taken by the US government from the Central Bank of Libya. Enter the Libyans stage right. Mehdi al Harati, the Libyan with an Irish passport, was put in charge of a Brigade of terrorists working under the pay and direction of the CIA in Libya. Once his fighting subsided there, he was moved to Northern Syria, in the Idlib area, which was the base of operation for the American backed Free Syrian Army, who Republican Senator John McCain lobbied for in the US Congress, and personally visited, illegally entering Syria without any passport or border controls. In Arizona, Sen. McCain is in favor of deporting any illegal alien entering USA, but he himself broke international law by entering Syria as an illegal and undocumented alien. However, he was in the company of trusted friends and associates, the Free Syrian Army: the same men who beheaded Christians and Muslims, raped females and children of both sexes, sold girls as sex slaves in Turkey, and ate the raw liver of a man, which they proudly videoed and uploaded. Previously, Syria did not have any Al Qaeda terrorists, and had passed through the war in neighboring Iraq none the worse for wear, except having accepted 2 million Iraqis as refugee guests. Shortly before the Deraa staged uprising began, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie were in Damascus and being driven around by the President and First Lady. Pitt and Jolie had come to visit and support the Iraqi war refugees in Damascus. Brad Pitt was amazed that the Syrian President would drive him around personally, and without any body guards or security detail. Pitt and Jolie were used to their own heavy security team in USA. Pres. Assad explained that he and his wife were comfortable in Damascus, knowing that it was a safe place. Indeed, the association of French travel agents had deemed Syria as the safest tourist destination in the entire Mediterranean region, meaning even safer than France itself. However, the US strategy was to create a “New Middle East”, which would do away with safety in Syria; through the ensuing tornado, aka ‘winds of change’. Tunisia, Libya, Egypt and then Syria were the stepping stones in the garden of the “Arab Spring”. But, the scenario in the Syrian mission did not stay on script. It went over deadline and over budget. The final credits have yet to be rolled, and the curtain has yet to fall on the stage. We can’t under estimate the role that mainstream media had to play in the destruction of Syria. For example, Al Jazeera’s Rula Amin was in Deraa and personally interviewed the cleric Sayasneh at the Omari Mosque. Al Jazeera is the state owned and operated media for the Prince of Qatar. The Prince of Qatar was one of the key funders of the terrorists attacking Syria. The USA was sending the weapons, supplies and providing military satellite imagery, however the cash to make payroll, to pay out bribes in Turkey, and all other expenses which needed cold cash in hand was being paid out by the Prince of Qatar and the King of Saudi Arabia, who were playing their roles as closest Middle East allies of the United States of America. This was a production team between USA, EU, NATO, Turkey, Jordan, Israel and the Persian Gulf Arab monarchies of Saudi Arabia and Qatar primarily. The CIA has no problem with covert operations in foreign countries, and even full scale attacks, but the matter of funding needs to come from a foreign country, because the American voters don’t care about killing people in Syria, but they would never agree to pay for it. As long as the Arabs were paying for the project, that was OK by Mr. John Q. Public, who probably was not able to find Syria on a map anyway. Rula Amin and others of the Al Jazeera staff, and including the American CNN, the British BBC and the French France24 all began deliberate political propaganda campaign against the Syrian government and the Syrian people who were suffering from the death and destruction brought on by the terrorists who were pretending to be players in a local uprising. Some days, the scripts were so similar that you would have guessed they were all written in the same hotel room in Beirut. Onto the stage stepped the online media personalities of Robert Fisk, from his vantage point in Beirut and Joshua Landis from his perch in Oklahoma. These 2 men, sitting so far removed from the actual events, pretended to know everything going on in Syria. British and American readers were swayed by their deliberate one-sided explanations, while the actual Syrians living inside Syria, who read in English online, were baffled. Syrians were wondering how Western writers could take the side of the terrorists who were foreigners, following Radical Islam and attacking any unarmed civilian who tried to defend their home and family. The media was portraying the terrorists as freedom fighters and heroes of democracy, while they were raping, looting, maiming, kidnapping for ransom and murdering unarmed civilians who had not read the script before the shooting began in Deraa. There was one global movie trailer, and it was a low budget cell phone video which went viral around the world, and it sold the viewers on the idea of Syria being in the beginning of a dramatic fight for freedom, justice and the American way. From the very beginning, Al Jazeera and all the rest of the media were paying $100.00 to any amateur video shot in Syria. A whole new cottage industry sprang up in Syria, with directors and actors all hungry for the spotlight and fame. Authenticity was not questioned; the media just wanted content which supported their propaganda campaign in Syria. Deraa was the opening act of tragic epic which has yet to conclude. The cleric who was a key character in the beginning scenes, Sheikh Sayasneh, was first put under house arrest, and then he was smuggled out to Amman, Jordan in January 2012. He now gives lectures in America near Washington, DC. Just like aspiring actors usually find their way to Hollywood, which is the Mecca of the film industry, Sheikh Sayasneh found his way to the Mecca of all regime change projects. Syria Crisis [https://ahtribune.com/images/brand/authorbox-serarator.jpg] WRITER [https://ahtribune.com/images/profile/591f9fd675ad2610b2649d82abfdac806db9a941.jpg] STEVEN SAHIOUNIE Steven began writing political analysis and commentary during the Syrian war, which began in March 2011. He has published several articles, and has been affiliated with numerous media. He has been interviewed by US, Canadian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r-szoke at illinois.edu Sun Apr 22 01:42:56 2018 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 01:42:56 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tipping point for the 1% ? Message-ID: <438A7049-096E-4715-975C-187B0A0F2CF7@illinois.edu> The richest 1% are on track to control two-thirds of the world’s wealth by 2030 WSJ, Apr 21, 2018 7:36 p.m. ET By QUENTIN FOTTRELL PERSONAL FINANCE EDITOR Based on 6% annual growth in wealth, they would hold assets worth approximately $305 trillion [cid:daa7567c-e322-428d-9b2e-bf47356d79b6 at mx.uillinois.edu] Getty Images Just eight billionaires have as much wealth as 3.6 billion people — the poorest half of the world. Inequality around the world has reached an irreversible tipping point. The U.K.-based House of Commons Library said this month that, if current trends continue, the richest 1% will control nearly 66% of world’s money by 2030. Based on 6% annual growth in wealth, they would hold assets worth approximately $305 trillion, up from $140 trillion today, the Guardian reported. This follows a report released earlier this year by Oxfam, which said that just eight billionaires have as much wealth as 3.6 billion people — the poorest half of the world. The U.S. actually has a greater gap between rich and poor than many European countries. The divergence in the levels of inequality has been “extreme” between Western Europe and the U.S., according to a separate report, released earlier this year by the World Inequality Lab, a research project in over 70 countries based at the Paris School of Economics, and co-authored by the French economist Thomas Piketty. “The global middle class has been squeezed,” it said. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 22 12:43:37 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 12:43:37 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Mort's Letter in NG Message-ID: https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804211063771292-trump-syria-agression-forestate/ WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - Russia appears ready to lift its self-imposed ban on selling S-300 air defense systems to Syria as fears grow that the United States and its allies are massing their forces to attack the country again, analysts said. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told Sputnik on Friday that Moscow was no longer bound by a moral duty not to supply Damascus with S-300 air defense missile systems after last week's Western strikes on Syria. Supplying those weapons will contribute to the political stability of the Syrian government, Samer Shiha, a member of the Syrian People's Assembly, told Sputnik later in the day. On April 13, the United States, assisted by France and the United Kingdom, fired 105 missiles at targets in Syria, while the US nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman and its task force are currently sailing toward the Eastern Mediterranean. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov (c) Sputnik / Maksim Blinov EXCLUSIVE: Putin, Trump Will Never Allow US-Russia Armed Conflict, Lavrov Says Washington said the strike was in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack in the Syrian city of Douma and blamed the Syrian government - but also Russia and Iran - for the incident. The Syrian government said it had not used chemical weapons and the incident was staged by the Jaish al-Islam terror group to pave the way for a foreign intervention in Syria. US PREPARING TO LAUNCH MORE ATTACKS ON SYRIA The missile strike against targets in Syria last week seems to be a prelude to additional attacks, University of Illinois Professor of International Law Francis Boyle cautioned. "It sounds like they will do it again," Boyle said. "The carrier strike force heading there: It should be there later this week. Why is the Truman heading over there right now at flank speed? It doesn't look good." Boyle pointed out that the readiness of the United States and its allies to launch last week's strike against Syria before undertaking any real investigation into who actually carried out the April 7 chemical attack in Douma encouraged all the jihadi groups in Syria to launch more such attacks. "[The strikes were] basically an invitation to aggressive jihad groups to stage another chemical weapons attack," Boyle said. "This was not a one off affair, as [Secretary of Defense James] Mattis claimed... It is a very dangerous situation." Boyle noted that the attack on Syria violated the terms of United Nations Charter and was a crime against international law. Also, "Under US constitutional law it clearly violates Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution. It is an impeachable offense: It contravenes US Army Field Manual 27-10 The Law of Land Warfare," he said. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad giving an interview. File photo (c) AFP 2018 / HO/SANA Assad Returns Legion of Honour Award to 'US Slave' France After Strikes on Syria The April 13 US bombing of Syria came as US President Donald Trump faced a new round of controversy over the accusations against him made by former FBI Director James Comey in his new book "A Higher Loyalty.." "Why did Trump bomb on [April 13]? What was the rush? Trump knew full well Comey was publishing his memoirs: So he bombed. President [Bill] Clinton did exactly the same thing during the Monica Lewinsky matter in 1998. Barbara Ehrenreich then called it 'The Bimbo Bombings,'" he said. Boyle predicted Trump was likely to resort again to bombing Syria in his efforts to distract the US public from Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller's ongoing investigation into his affairs. "I am afraid we will probably be seeing more bombing by Mr. Trump as the whole Mueller-gate matter is not going away... It is important to understand the danger here Trump is in the same situation as Clinton. The danger is not past. Syria could become the Sarajevo of 1914," Boyle said. However, Trump's political opponents and war hawks wanted to push the president into more strikes against the Damascus government, Boyle warned. "It does seem to me that they are using the Mueller investigation to pressure Trump to attack Syria," he said. US RUNNING RISKS OF 1914 SARAJEVO-STYLE ESCALATION __._,_.___ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 7:30 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Mort's Letter in NG Yeah Mort has a good letter in today's NG. As I said in my previous post, Syria could become Sarajevo 1914. I have been to that square there in the work I did for the Bosnians. Also gave me a tour of their front lines for their own war/genocide. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 22 12:47:50 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 12:47:50 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Mort's Letter in NG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For what it is worth, the current situation reminds me of Barbara Tuchman's book The March of Folly-towards World War III. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 7:44 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Mort's Letter in NG https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804211063771292-trump-syria-agression-forestate/ WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - Russia appears ready to lift its self-imposed ban on selling S-300 air defense systems to Syria as fears grow that the United States and its allies are massing their forces to attack the country again, analysts said. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told Sputnik on Friday that Moscow was no longer bound by a moral duty not to supply Damascus with S-300 air defense missile systems after last week's Western strikes on Syria. Supplying those weapons will contribute to the political stability of the Syrian government, Samer Shiha, a member of the Syrian People's Assembly, told Sputnik later in the day. On April 13, the United States, assisted by France and the United Kingdom, fired 105 missiles at targets in Syria, while the US nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman and its task force are currently sailing toward the Eastern Mediterranean. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov (c) Sputnik / Maksim Blinov EXCLUSIVE: Putin, Trump Will Never Allow US-Russia Armed Conflict, Lavrov Says Washington said the strike was in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack in the Syrian city of Douma and blamed the Syrian government - but also Russia and Iran - for the incident. The Syrian government said it had not used chemical weapons and the incident was staged by the Jaish al-Islam terror group to pave the way for a foreign intervention in Syria. US PREPARING TO LAUNCH MORE ATTACKS ON SYRIA The missile strike against targets in Syria last week seems to be a prelude to additional attacks, University of Illinois Professor of International Law Francis Boyle cautioned. "It sounds like they will do it again," Boyle said. "The carrier strike force heading there: It should be there later this week. Why is the Truman heading over there right now at flank speed? It doesn't look good." Boyle pointed out that the readiness of the United States and its allies to launch last week's strike against Syria before undertaking any real investigation into who actually carried out the April 7 chemical attack in Douma encouraged all the jihadi groups in Syria to launch more such attacks. "[The strikes were] basically an invitation to aggressive jihad groups to stage another chemical weapons attack," Boyle said. "This was not a one off affair, as [Secretary of Defense James] Mattis claimed... It is a very dangerous situation." Boyle noted that the attack on Syria violated the terms of United Nations Charter and was a crime against international law. Also, "Under US constitutional law it clearly violates Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution. It is an impeachable offense: It contravenes US Army Field Manual 27-10 The Law of Land Warfare," he said. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad giving an interview. File photo (c) AFP 2018 / HO/SANA Assad Returns Legion of Honour Award to 'US Slave' France After Strikes on Syria The April 13 US bombing of Syria came as US President Donald Trump faced a new round of controversy over the accusations against him made by former FBI Director James Comey in his new book "A Higher Loyalty.." "Why did Trump bomb on [April 13]? What was the rush? Trump knew full well Comey was publishing his memoirs: So he bombed. President [Bill] Clinton did exactly the same thing during the Monica Lewinsky matter in 1998. Barbara Ehrenreich then called it 'The Bimbo Bombings,'" he said. Boyle predicted Trump was likely to resort again to bombing Syria in his efforts to distract the US public from Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller's ongoing investigation into his affairs. "I am afraid we will probably be seeing more bombing by Mr. Trump as the whole Mueller-gate matter is not going away... It is important to understand the danger here Trump is in the same situation as Clinton. The danger is not past. Syria could become the Sarajevo of 1914," Boyle said. However, Trump's political opponents and war hawks wanted to push the president into more strikes against the Damascus government, Boyle warned. "It does seem to me that they are using the Mueller investigation to pressure Trump to attack Syria," he said. US RUNNING RISKS OF 1914 SARAJEVO-STYLE ESCALATION __._,_.___ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 7:30 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Mort's Letter in NG Yeah Mort has a good letter in today's NG. As I said in my previous post, Syria could become Sarajevo 1914. I have been to that square there in the work I did for the Bosnians. Also gave me a tour of their front lines for their own war/genocide. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rwhelbig at gmail.com Sun Apr 22 13:12:45 2018 From: rwhelbig at gmail.com (Roger Helbig) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 06:12:45 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Mort's Letter in NG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sputnik News is sort of like a new version of Pravda, so not really a reliable source of information - it most certainly is not an actual news service, but FAB has disdained actual news for years now - he sort of lives in a fantasy hate America world with some of the rest of you. Trump lives in his own fantasy world too, but maybe he will denuclearize North Korea and hopefully will not renuclearize Iran or nuclearize Saudi Arabia. That certainly is a scary thought. I expect that the Russian missiles will come with Russian technicians who might get killed by an airstrike against the missile site. That certainly is not something that bodes well for anyone. Roger On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 5:43 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss < peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804211063771292-trump-syria-agression- > forestate/ > > WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - Russia appears ready to lift its self-imposed ban > on selling S-300 air defense systems to Syria as fears grow that the United > States and its allies are massing their forces to attack the country again, > analysts said. > > Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told Sputnik on Friday that Moscow > was no longer bound by a moral duty not to supply Damascus with S-300 air > defense missile systems after last week's Western strikes on Syria. > > Supplying those weapons will contribute to the political stability of the > Syrian government, Samer Shiha, a member of the Syrian People’s Assembly, > told Sputnik later in the day. > > On April 13, the United States, assisted by France and the United Kingdom, > fired 105 missiles at targets in Syria, while the US nuclear-powered > aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman and its task force are currently sailing > toward the Eastern Mediterranean. > > Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov > © Sputnik / Maksim Blinov > > EXCLUSIVE: Putin, Trump Will Never Allow US-Russia Armed Conflict, Lavrov > Says Washington said the strike was in response to an alleged chemical > weapons attack in the Syrian city of Douma and blamed the Syrian government > — but also Russia and Iran — for the incident. > > The Syrian government said it had not used chemical weapons and the > incident was staged by the Jaish al-Islam terror group to pave the way for > a foreign intervention in Syria. > > US PREPARING TO LAUNCH MORE ATTACKS ON SYRIA > > The missile strike against targets in Syria last week seems to be a > prelude to additional attacks, University of Illinois Professor of > International Law Francis Boyle cautioned. > > "It sounds like they will do it again," Boyle said. "The carrier strike > force heading there: It should be there later this week. Why is the Truman > heading over there right now at flank speed? It doesn’t look good." > > Boyle pointed out that the readiness of the United States and its allies > to launch last week’s strike against Syria before undertaking any real > investigation into who actually carried out the April 7 chemical attack in > Douma encouraged all the jihadi groups in Syria to launch more such attacks. > > "[The strikes were] basically an invitation to aggressive jihad groups to > stage another chemical weapons attack," Boyle said. "This was not a one off > affair, as [Secretary of Defense James] Mattis claimed… It is a very > dangerous situation." > > Boyle noted that the attack on Syria violated the terms of United Nations > Charter and was a crime against international law. > > Also, "Under US constitutional law it clearly violates Article 1, Section > 8 of the United States Constitution. It is an impeachable offense: It > contravenes US Army Field Manual 27-10 The Law of Land Warfare," he said. > > Syrian President Bashar al-Assad giving an interview. File photo © AFP > 2018 / HO/SANA > > Assad Returns Legion of Honour Award to 'US Slave' France After Strikes on > Syria The April 13 US bombing of Syria came as US President Donald Trump > faced a new round of controversy over the accusations against him made by > former FBI Director James Comey in his new book "A Higher Loyalty.." > > "Why did Trump bomb on [April 13]? What was the rush? Trump knew full well > Comey was publishing his memoirs: So he bombed. President [Bill] Clinton > did exactly the same thing during the Monica Lewinsky matter in 1998. > Barbara Ehrenreich then called it ‘The Bimbo Bombings,’" he said. > > Boyle predicted Trump was likely to resort again to bombing Syria in his > efforts to distract the US public from Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller’s > ongoing investigation into his affairs. > > "I am afraid we will probably be seeing more bombing by Mr. Trump as the > whole Mueller-gate matter is not going away… It is important to understand > the danger here Trump is in the same situation as Clinton. The danger is > not past. Syria could become the Sarajevo of 1914," Boyle said. > > However, Trump’s political opponents and war hawks wanted to push the > president into more strikes against the Damascus government, Boyle warned. > > "It does seem to me that they are using the Mueller investigation to > pressure Trump to attack Syria," he said. > > US RUNNING RISKS OF 1914 SARAJEVO-STYLE ESCALATION > > __._,_.___ > > > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 (fax)* > > *(personal comments only*) > > > > *From:* Boyle, Francis A > *Sent:* Sunday, April 22, 2018 7:30 AM > *To:* Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> > *Subject:* Mort's Letter in NG > > > > *Yeah Mort has a good letter in today’s NG. As I said in my previous post, > Syria could become Sarajevo 1914. I have been to that square there in the > work I did for the Bosnians. Also gave me a tour of their front lines for > their own war/genocide. Fab.* > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 (fax)* > > *(personal comments only*) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 22 13:15:44 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:15:44 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Mort's Letter in NG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I expect that the Russian missiles will come with Russian technicians who might get killed by an airstrike against the missile site. Notice that US “military intelligence” {Sic!} agrees with my analysis. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Roger Helbig [mailto:rwhelbig at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 8:13 AM To: Boyle, Francis A ; Peace-discuss Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Mort's Letter in NG Sputnik News is sort of like a new version of Pravda, so not really a reliable source of information - it most certainly is not an actual news service, but FAB has disdained actual news for years now - he sort of lives in a fantasy hate America world with some of the rest of you. Trump lives in his own fantasy world too, but maybe he will denuclearize North Korea and hopefully will not renuclearize Iran or nuclearize Saudi Arabia. That certainly is a scary thought. I expect that the Russian missiles will come with Russian technicians who might get killed by an airstrike against the missile site. That certainly is not something that bodes well for anyone. Roger On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 5:43 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804211063771292-trump-syria-agression-forestate/ WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - Russia appears ready to lift its self-imposed ban on selling S-300 air defense systems to Syria as fears grow that the United States and its allies are massing their forces to attack the country again, analysts said. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told Sputnik on Friday that Moscow was no longer bound by a moral duty not to supply Damascus with S-300 air defense missile systems after last week's Western strikes on Syria. Supplying those weapons will contribute to the political stability of the Syrian government, Samer Shiha, a member of the Syrian People’s Assembly, told Sputnik later in the day. On April 13, the United States, assisted by France and the United Kingdom, fired 105 missiles at targets in Syria, while the US nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman and its task force are currently sailing toward the Eastern Mediterranean. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov © Sputnik / Maksim Blinov EXCLUSIVE: Putin, Trump Will Never Allow US-Russia Armed Conflict, Lavrov Says Washington said the strike was in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack in the Syrian city of Douma and blamed the Syrian government — but also Russia and Iran — for the incident. The Syrian government said it had not used chemical weapons and the incident was staged by the Jaish al-Islam terror group to pave the way for a foreign intervention in Syria. US PREPARING TO LAUNCH MORE ATTACKS ON SYRIA The missile strike against targets in Syria last week seems to be a prelude to additional attacks, University of Illinois Professor of International Law Francis Boyle cautioned. "It sounds like they will do it again," Boyle said. "The carrier strike force heading there: It should be there later this week. Why is the Truman heading over there right now at flank speed? It doesn’t look good." Boyle pointed out that the readiness of the United States and its allies to launch last week’s strike against Syria before undertaking any real investigation into who actually carried out the April 7 chemical attack in Douma encouraged all the jihadi groups in Syria to launch more such attacks. "[The strikes were] basically an invitation to aggressive jihad groups to stage another chemical weapons attack," Boyle said. "This was not a one off affair, as [Secretary of Defense James] Mattis claimed… It is a very dangerous situation." Boyle noted that the attack on Syria violated the terms of United Nations Charter and was a crime against international law. Also, "Under US constitutional law it clearly violates Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution. It is an impeachable offense: It contravenes US Army Field Manual 27-10 The Law of Land Warfare," he said. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad giving an interview. File photo © AFP 2018 / HO/SANA Assad Returns Legion of Honour Award to 'US Slave' France After Strikes on Syria The April 13 US bombing of Syria came as US President Donald Trump faced a new round of controversy over the accusations against him made by former FBI Director James Comey in his new book "A Higher Loyalty.." "Why did Trump bomb on [April 13]? What was the rush? Trump knew full well Comey was publishing his memoirs: So he bombed. President [Bill] Clinton did exactly the same thing during the Monica Lewinsky matter in 1998. Barbara Ehrenreich then called it ‘The Bimbo Bombings,’" he said. Boyle predicted Trump was likely to resort again to bombing Syria in his efforts to distract the US public from Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller’s ongoing investigation into his affairs. "I am afraid we will probably be seeing more bombing by Mr. Trump as the whole Mueller-gate matter is not going away… It is important to understand the danger here Trump is in the same situation as Clinton. The danger is not past. Syria could become the Sarajevo of 1914," Boyle said. However, Trump’s political opponents and war hawks wanted to push the president into more strikes against the Damascus government, Boyle warned. "It does seem to me that they are using the Mueller investigation to pressure Trump to attack Syria," he said. US RUNNING RISKS OF 1914 SARAJEVO-STYLE ESCALATION __._,_.___ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 7:30 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Mort's Letter in NG Yeah Mort has a good letter in today’s NG. As I said in my previous post, Syria could become Sarajevo 1914. I have been to that square there in the work I did for the Bosnians. Also gave me a tour of their front lines for their own war/genocide. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Apr 22 13:27:50 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:27:50 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Event "Challenging the Russiagate Narrative" this Sunday @ 5:00PM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Carl Estabrook has suggested cancelation of tonights AWARE meeting, in order for AWARE members to attend this important event. Carl passing up a beer, for an event, proves the importance of this issue. :) Please see below: The phenomenon known as “Russiagate” is a ubiquitous, viral narrative that dominates the corporate news cycle and penetrates many layers of popular discourse. From server hacking to BOT farms, from Facebook ads to Pokémon Go, Russia’s nefarious influence seems to reach everywhere. But despite the multitude of claims, accusations of Russian influence have been dubious and have fallen apart over time. So why does the Russiagate narrative persist? Join the Party for Socialism and Liberation C-U for a presentation that probes both the past and present for answers. We will be discussing post-Soviet relations between Eastern Europe and the West and how these events set the stage for the current political climate, the timeline of Russiagate events, and the political utility of the Russiagate narrative and its consequences. A question and answer segment will follow. We urge anyone who is interested in understanding both domestic and international politics to attend this event to learn and discuss the origins, substance, and ramifications of the Russiagate phenomenon. 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 22 13:30:37 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:30:37 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Mort's Letter in NG References: Message-ID: And I have been to Stalingrad too. The Russians will fight us to the death—every man, woman and child. Fab Stalingrad We got off the boat at the dock Walking into town I was asked Could I lay some flowers At the War Memorial On the Banks of the Volga? Of course I said yes Honored and pleased My Dad had fought the Japanese At Saipan and Tinian and Okinawa Nazis were not his war But we were all Allies together In the Noble Cause to Defeat Fascism As I neared the Statue On the Banks of the Volga Young Komsomol Girl appeared All dressed in white Carrying a wreath of red roses She gave to me A band was playing Joyful, not somber, but subdued Town Elders assembled Sun was shining Most beautiful day On the Banks of the Volga I lay my wreath of roses To the Defenders and Victims of Stalingrad Bowed my head in silent reflection If the Soviets had not held at Stalingrad All Europe today would be speaking German And saluting: Heil Hitler! Deutschland, Deutschland But not Uber Alles My Dad was smiling On the Banks of the Volga [cid:image003.jpg at 01D3DA14.30601280] Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 8:16 AM To: 'Roger Helbig' ; Peace-discuss Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Mort's Letter in NG I expect that the Russian missiles will come with Russian technicians who might get killed by an airstrike against the missile site. Notice that US “military intelligence” {Sic!} agrees with my analysis. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Roger Helbig [mailto:rwhelbig at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 8:13 AM To: Boyle, Francis A >; Peace-discuss > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Mort's Letter in NG Sputnik News is sort of like a new version of Pravda, so not really a reliable source of information - it most certainly is not an actual news service, but FAB has disdained actual news for years now - he sort of lives in a fantasy hate America world with some of the rest of you. Trump lives in his own fantasy world too, but maybe he will denuclearize North Korea and hopefully will not renuclearize Iran or nuclearize Saudi Arabia. That certainly is a scary thought. I expect that the Russian missiles will come with Russian technicians who might get killed by an airstrike against the missile site. That certainly is not something that bodes well for anyone. Roger On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 5:43 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804211063771292-trump-syria-agression-forestate/ WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - Russia appears ready to lift its self-imposed ban on selling S-300 air defense systems to Syria as fears grow that the United States and its allies are massing their forces to attack the country again, analysts said. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told Sputnik on Friday that Moscow was no longer bound by a moral duty not to supply Damascus with S-300 air defense missile systems after last week's Western strikes on Syria. Supplying those weapons will contribute to the political stability of the Syrian government, Samer Shiha, a member of the Syrian People’s Assembly, told Sputnik later in the day. On April 13, the United States, assisted by France and the United Kingdom, fired 105 missiles at targets in Syria, while the US nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman and its task force are currently sailing toward the Eastern Mediterranean. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov © Sputnik / Maksim Blinov EXCLUSIVE: Putin, Trump Will Never Allow US-Russia Armed Conflict, Lavrov Says Washington said the strike was in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack in the Syrian city of Douma and blamed the Syrian government — but also Russia and Iran — for the incident. The Syrian government said it had not used chemical weapons and the incident was staged by the Jaish al-Islam terror group to pave the way for a foreign intervention in Syria. US PREPARING TO LAUNCH MORE ATTACKS ON SYRIA The missile strike against targets in Syria last week seems to be a prelude to additional attacks, University of Illinois Professor of International Law Francis Boyle cautioned. "It sounds like they will do it again," Boyle said. "The carrier strike force heading there: It should be there later this week. Why is the Truman heading over there right now at flank speed? It doesn’t look good." Boyle pointed out that the readiness of the United States and its allies to launch last week’s strike against Syria before undertaking any real investigation into who actually carried out the April 7 chemical attack in Douma encouraged all the jihadi groups in Syria to launch more such attacks. "[The strikes were] basically an invitation to aggressive jihad groups to stage another chemical weapons attack," Boyle said. "This was not a one off affair, as [Secretary of Defense James] Mattis claimed… It is a very dangerous situation." Boyle noted that the attack on Syria violated the terms of United Nations Charter and was a crime against international law. Also, "Under US constitutional law it clearly violates Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution. It is an impeachable offense: It contravenes US Army Field Manual 27-10 The Law of Land Warfare," he said. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad giving an interview. File photo © AFP 2018 / HO/SANA Assad Returns Legion of Honour Award to 'US Slave' France After Strikes on Syria The April 13 US bombing of Syria came as US President Donald Trump faced a new round of controversy over the accusations against him made by former FBI Director James Comey in his new book "A Higher Loyalty.." "Why did Trump bomb on [April 13]? What was the rush? Trump knew full well Comey was publishing his memoirs: So he bombed. President [Bill] Clinton did exactly the same thing during the Monica Lewinsky matter in 1998. Barbara Ehrenreich then called it ‘The Bimbo Bombings,’" he said. Boyle predicted Trump was likely to resort again to bombing Syria in his efforts to distract the US public from Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller’s ongoing investigation into his affairs. "I am afraid we will probably be seeing more bombing by Mr. Trump as the whole Mueller-gate matter is not going away… It is important to understand the danger here Trump is in the same situation as Clinton. The danger is not past. Syria could become the Sarajevo of 1914," Boyle said. However, Trump’s political opponents and war hawks wanted to push the president into more strikes against the Damascus government, Boyle warned. "It does seem to me that they are using the Mueller investigation to pressure Trump to attack Syria," he said. US RUNNING RISKS OF 1914 SARAJEVO-STYLE ESCALATION __._,_.___ Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 7:30 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Mort's Letter in NG Yeah Mort has a good letter in today’s NG. As I said in my previous post, Syria could become Sarajevo 1914. I have been to that square there in the work I did for the Bosnians. Also gave me a tour of their front lines for their own war/genocide. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 8:28 AM To: Karen Aram Cc: peace; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Event "Challenging the Russiagate Narrative" this Sunday @ 5:00PM Carl Estabrook has suggested cancelation of tonights AWARE meeting, in order for AWARE members to attend this important event. Carl passing up a beer, for an event, proves the importance of this issue. :) Please see below: The phenomenon known as “Russiagate” is a ubiquitous, viral narrative that dominates the corporate news cycle and penetrates many layers of popular discourse. From server hacking to BOT farms, from Facebook ads to Pokémon Go, Russia’s nefarious influence seems to reach everywhere. But despite the multitude of claims, accusations of Russian influence have been dubious and have fallen apart over time. So why does the Russiagate narrative persist? Join the Party for Socialism and Liberation C-U for a presentation that probes both the past and present for answers. We will be discussing post-Soviet relations between Eastern Europe and the West and how these events set the stage for the current political climate, the timeline of Russiagate events, and the political utility of the Russiagate narrative and its consequences. A question and answer segment will follow. We urge anyone who is interested in understanding both domestic and international politics to attend this event to learn and discuss the origins, substance, and ramifications of the Russiagate phenomenon. We hope to see you Sunday, April 22nd at the IMC Image removed by sender. 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From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 8:28 AM To: Karen Aram Cc: peace; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Event "Challenging the Russiagate Narrative" this Sunday @ 5:00PM Carl Estabrook has suggested cancelation of tonights AWARE meeting, in order for AWARE members to attend this important event. Carl passing up a beer, for an event, proves the importance of this issue. :) Please see below: The phenomenon known as “Russiagate” is a ubiquitous, viral narrative that dominates the corporate news cycle and penetrates many layers of popular discourse. From server hacking to BOT farms, from Facebook ads to Pokémon Go, Russia’s nefarious influence seems to reach everywhere. But despite the multitude of claims, accusations of Russian influence have been dubious and have fallen apart over time. So why does the Russiagate narrative persist? Join the Party for Socialism and Liberation C-U for a presentation that probes both the past and present for answers. We will be discussing post-Soviet relations between Eastern Europe and the West and how these events set the stage for the current political climate, the timeline of Russiagate events, and the political utility of the Russiagate narrative and its consequences. A question and answer segment will follow. We urge anyone who is interested in understanding both domestic and international politics to attend this event to learn and discuss the origins, substance, and ramifications of the Russiagate phenomenon. 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 8:59 AM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: NYT: War Crimes-Torture-Mongerer WACO Phil Heymann "Mentor" for Rod Rosenstein ...In this regard, the Harvard Law School Faculty currently has at least five professors who have advocated torture and war crimes:.... 4. Another one of my teachers, Waco Phil Heymann. Previously, Waco Phil had been Deputy to U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, the Butcher of Waco. Reno ordered the Waco Massacre, while Heymann ordered its cover-up and thus earned his well-deserved sobriquet of Waco Phil as an Accessory After The Fact. All those incinerated women and children! .... Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:FBOYLE at law.illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 8:58 AM To: Killeacle Subject: Harvard's Gitmo Kangaroo Law School Copyright 2010 Newstex LLC All Rights Reserved Newstex Web Blogs Copyright 2010 Atlantic Free Press Atlantic Free Press April 2, 2010 Friday 12:27 AM EST LENGTH: 2153 words HEADLINE: Harvard's Gitmo Kangaroo Law School: The School for Torturers BYLINE: Francis A Boyle BODY:     Apr. 2, 2010 (Atlantic Free Press delivered by Newstex) -- by Francis A. Boyle Ph.D. Not surprisingly, the January 2007 issue of the American Journal of Imperial Law--otherwise known as the self-styled American Journal of International Law but originally founded a century ago and still operated by U. S. War and State Department legal apparatchiks and their law professorial fellow-travelers-- published an article by Harvard Law School's recently retired Bemis Professor of International Law Detlev Vagts (who only taught me the required course on Legal Accounting) arguing in favor of the Pentagon's Kangaroo Courts System on Guantanamo despite the fact that they have been soundly condemned by every human rights organization and every human rights official and leader in the entire world as well as by the United States Supreme Court itself in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld (2006).     I am not going to bother to recite here all the grievous deficiencies of the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts under International Law and U.S. Constitutional Law. But suffice it to say that the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts constitute war crimes under the Laws of War, the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949, and even the U. S. Army's own Field Manual 27-10, The Law of Land Warfare (1956). Field Manual 27-10 was drafted for the Pentagon by my Laws of War teacher Richard R. Baxter, who was generally recognized as the world's leading expert on that subject. That is precisely why I voluntarily chose to study International Law with him and his long-time collaborator Louis B. Sohn, and not with the bean-counter Vagts. For the entire post-World War II generation of international law students at Harvard Law School, Louis Sohn shall always be our real Bemis Professor of International Law and never the False Pretender to that Throne known as Detlev Vagts. Since those student days I have personally appeared pro bono publico in five U.S. military courts-martial proceedings involving warfare that were organized in accordance with the Congress's Uniform Code of Military Justice (U.C.M.J.)--which still does not apply to the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts despite the ruling by the U. S. Supreme Court in Hamdan that the U.C.M.J. should be applied in Guantanamo--on behalf of five U. S. military personnel who each acted as matters of courage, integrity, principle, conscience and at great risk to their own freedom: 1. U. S. Marine Corporal Jeff Paterson, the first U.S. military resister to President Bush Sr.'s genocidal war against Iraq; 2. Army Captain Doctor Yolanda Huet-Vaughn, the highest ranking U. S. commissioned officer to be court-martialed for refusing to participate in President Bush Sr.'s genocidal war against Iraq; 3. Captain Lawrence Rockwood, who was court-martialed by the U. S. Army for trying to stop torture in Haiti after the Clinton administration had illegally invaded that country in 1994; 4. Army Staff Sergeant Camilo Mejia, the first U. S. military resister to be court-martialed for refusing to participate in President Bush Jr.'s war of aggression against Iraq; and 5. Army First Lieutenant Ehren Watada, the first U. S. commissioned officer to be court-martialed for his refusal to participate in President Bush Jr.'s war of aggression against Iraq. As I can attest from my direct personal involvement, each and every one of these five courts-martial under the U.C.M.J. were Stalinist show-trials produced and directed by the Pentagon that predictably and readily degenerated into travesties of justice. These five U.C.M.J. courts-martial involving U.S. warfare each proved correct the old adage attributed to Groucho Marx that military justice is to justice as military music is to music. By comparison, the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts will not even be run in accordance with the U.C.M.J. despite the fact that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Hamdan that they should be. The Marx Brothers are running the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts. Whenever they are up and fully operating the Gitmo Courts will constitute Stalinist Show Trials as well as Kangaroo Courts, and their preliminary proceedings have already proven them to be Travesties of Justice. Even worse yet, fully-functioning Stalinist Gitmo Kangaroo Courts will quickly become conveyor-belts of death for alleged and already tortured terrorist suspects along the lines of the Texas execution chamber operated by George Bush Jr. when he was the "governor" of that state and tortured to death 152 victims by means of lethal injection. Gitmo and/or Gitmo-North in Illinois will become Americas first-ever Nazi-style death camp. But today under the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949, executing persons detained as a result of armed conflict without a fair trial before a regularly constituted court constitutes a grave war crime. To be sure, under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution Harvard Law Professor Vagts has the freedom to advocate war crimes so long as he does not participate in their commission, or incite them, or aid and abet them. But precisely where is that line to be drawn for law professors? In this regard, the Harvard Law School Faculty currently has at least five professors who have advocated torture and war crimes: 1. Vagts himself, who supported abusing the then recently captured President of Iraq Saddam Hussein despite his being publicly acknowledged to be a Prisoner of War by the Bush Jr. administration itself and thus absolutely protected by the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and the Convention against Torture; 2. the infamous Alan Dershowitz, a self-incriminated war criminal in his own right. Dersh publicly acknowledged being a member of a Mossad Committee for approving the murder and assassination of Palestinians, which violates the Geneva Conventions and is thus a grave war crime; 3. the Neo-Con Con Law non-entity known as Richard Parker; 4. Another one of my teachers, Waco Phil Heymann. Previously, Waco Phil had been Deputy to U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, the Butcher of Waco. Reno ordered the Waco Massacre, while Heymann ordered its cover-up and thus earned his well-deserved sobriquet of Waco Phil as an Accessory After The Fact. All those incinerated women and children! 5. The war criminal Jack Goldsmith who while working as a lawyer for the Bush Jr. administration at both the Pentagon and later its Department of In-Justice did much of the legal spade-work designing, justifying and approving the hideous human rights atrocities that the Bush Jr. administration inflicted on everyone after 9/11. Goldsmith and his co-felon accomplice and co-conspirator from the Bush Jr. administration Professor John Yoo--now desecrating Berkeley's Law School where my friend and colleague the late, great Dean Frank Newman had taught Human Rights and International Law--are functionally analogous to Nazi Law Professor Carl Schmitt, who justified every hideous atrocity that Hitler and the Nazis inflicted on anyone, including the Jews. Despite my best efforts to prevent it, the Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans hired the war criminal Goldsmith right out of the Bush Jr. administration knowing full well that he was up to his eyeballs in the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts, torture, war crimes, enforced disappearances, murder, kidnapping, and crimes against humanity, at a minimum. And when Goldsmith's proverbial "smoking-gun" Department of In-Justice Memorandum was published by the Washington Post, then Harvard Law School's Dean Elena Kagan contemptuously boasted in response about how "proud" she was to have hired this notorious war criminal. Previously Kagan had also publicly bragged that the future of International Legal Studies at Harvard Law School would be in the "good hands" of their resident war criminal Goldsmith. How perversely and tragically true! The Neo-Conservative Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans deliberately hired this Neo-Nazi legal architect of the Bush Jr. administration's bogus and nefarious "war against terrorism" because they fully support it together with all its essential accouterments of torture, kangaroo courts, war crimes, murder, kidnapping, enforced disappearances, crimes against humanity, and Nuremburg crimes against peace. By contrast, after the terrorist bombing of the Murrah Federal Building by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols in alleged revenge for the Waco Massacre and Cover-up by Janet Reno and Waco Phil Heymann, to the best of my recollection I do not remember that the Neo-Conservative Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans advocated kangaroo courts, torture, war crimes, and racist profiling for America's population of White Judeo-Christian Males. Yet after 9/11 the fundamentally White Racist Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans have no problem with inflicting torture, kangaroo courts, war crimes, and racist profiling upon Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color, which is exactly why they hired the war criminal Goldsmith to teach such criminal practices to their own law students and thus someday turn them into racist U. S. governmental war criminals in their own right. This is because for the most part the Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans have always been viscerally bigoted and racist against Muslims/Arabs/Asians and other People of Color since at least when I first matriculated there in September of 1971. The Harvard Law School (H.L.S.) Faculty and Deans are no longer fit to educate Lawyers, Members of the Bar, and Officers of the Court. They are a sick joke and a demented fraud. Groucho Marx would have had a field day with them: Harvard is to Law School as Torture is to Law. The Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans torture the Law. Do not send your children or students to Harvard Law School where they will grow up to become racist war criminals! Harvard Law School is a Neo-Con cesspool. As for Harvard Laws Neo-Con Dean Kagan, Harvard Law Graduate President Barack Obama appointed her Solicitor General in his Department of Justice as the third highest ranking official in that department and thus as the proverbial oeTenth Justice for the 9-Justice U.S. Supreme Court. In this capacity Kagan has quarter-backed, supervised, and defended in all U.S. federal courts the Obama administrations continuation of the Bush Jr. administrations hideous atrocities perpetrated against human rights, international law, civil rights, civil liberties, the U.S. Constitution, and Americas Bill of Rights. As payback for her yeoman Neo-Con efforts, Kagan is now reportedly at the top of a very short list for President Obama to nominate to the U.S. Supreme Court upon the expected retirement of Mr. Justice Stevens, the reputed leader of the Courts oeliberal wing. Of course Stevens widespread denomination as a oeliberal just proves how far to the reactionary right the Supreme Court has moved since Stevens was recommended for the Supremes to President Gerald Ford by the arch-reactionary jurist Edward Hirsh Levi, then U.S. Attorney General and previously Dean of the arch-reactionary University of Chicago Law School where Antonin Scalia, Obama, Kagan, and her pet war criminal Goldsmith would all teach. As President of the entire arch-reactionary University of Chicago itself, Levi drove out about 30% of my undergraduate class that in 1968 had unwittingly entered this Birthplace and Warren for the Neo-Con Movement that was founded there by Chicago Professor Leo Strauss, a protégé of Nazi Law Professor Carl Schmitt. Americas Neo-Cons are Neo-Nazis. In an interview she recently gave to National Public Radio, Obamas Neo-Con Solicitor General Kagan went out of her way to proclaim: oeI love the Federalist Society! (Emphasis in the original.) The Federalist Society is a gang of lawyers, law professors, and judges who for the most part are right-wing, racist, bigoted, reactionary, elitist, war-mongering, and totalitarian. For example, almost all of the Bush Jr. administration lawyers responsible for its war criminal torture scandal were and still are members of the Federalist Society. Likewise, five Justices on the current U.S. Supreme Court were/are members of the Federalist Society: Harvard Law Graduate Roberts; Harvard Law Graduate Scalia; Harvard Law Graduate Kennedy; Yale Law Graduate Thomas; and Yale Law Graduate Alito. Thats what an oeelite legal education will do for you. In any event, H.L.S. President Obamas elevation of the H.L.S. Neo-Con Kagan to the Supremes would cement the Federalist Societys Neo-Con stranglehold over the U.S. Supreme Court for the next generation. As for another publicly touted Supremes candidate, the Neo-Con Cass Sunstein of the University of Chicago Law School and Harvard Law School, who is currently working at the White House as Obamas Disinformation and Infiltration Czar, would be just as lethal as Kagan to the American Constitution and Republic if sitting on the U.S. Supreme Court. Time for the Ordinary People of America to get organized against these Neo-Con legal elites! From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 22 14:10:03 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 14:10:03 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] News Gazoo Ad for HLS War Criminal Dirty Dersh/ War Crimes-Torture-Mongerer WACO Phil Heymann "Mentor" for Rod Rosenstein Message-ID: ...In this regard, the Harvard Law School Faculty currently has at least five professors who have advocated torture and war crimes:.... ...2. the infamous Alan Dershowitz, a self-incriminated war criminal in his own right. Dersh publicly acknowledged being a member of a Mossad Committee for approving the murder and assassination of Palestinians, which violates the Geneva Conventions and is thus a grave war crime; Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 9:00 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: War Crimes-Torture-Mongerer WACO Phil Heymann "Mentor" for Rod Rosenstein Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 8:59 AM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: NYT: War Crimes-Torture-Mongerer WACO Phil Heymann "Mentor" for Rod Rosenstein ...In this regard, the Harvard Law School Faculty currently has at least five professors who have advocated torture and war crimes:.... 4. Another one of my teachers, Waco Phil Heymann. Previously, Waco Phil had been Deputy to U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, the Butcher of Waco. Reno ordered the Waco Massacre, while Heymann ordered its cover-up and thus earned his well-deserved sobriquet of Waco Phil as an Accessory After The Fact. All those incinerated women and children! .... Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:FBOYLE at law.illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 8:58 AM To: Killeacle Subject: Harvard's Gitmo Kangaroo Law School Copyright 2010 Newstex LLC All Rights Reserved Newstex Web Blogs Copyright 2010 Atlantic Free Press Atlantic Free Press April 2, 2010 Friday 12:27 AM EST LENGTH: 2153 words HEADLINE: Harvard's Gitmo Kangaroo Law School: The School for Torturers BYLINE: Francis A Boyle BODY:     Apr. 2, 2010 (Atlantic Free Press delivered by Newstex) -- by Francis A. Boyle Ph.D. Not surprisingly, the January 2007 issue of the American Journal of Imperial Law--otherwise known as the self-styled American Journal of International Law but originally founded a century ago and still operated by U. S. War and State Department legal apparatchiks and their law professorial fellow-travelers-- published an article by Harvard Law School's recently retired Bemis Professor of International Law Detlev Vagts (who only taught me the required course on Legal Accounting) arguing in favor of the Pentagon's Kangaroo Courts System on Guantanamo despite the fact that they have been soundly condemned by every human rights organization and every human rights official and leader in the entire world as well as by the United States Supreme Court itself in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld (2006).     I am not going to bother to recite here all the grievous deficiencies of the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts under International Law and U.S. Constitutional Law. But suffice it to say that the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts constitute war crimes under the Laws of War, the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949, and even the U. S. Army's own Field Manual 27-10, The Law of Land Warfare (1956). Field Manual 27-10 was drafted for the Pentagon by my Laws of War teacher Richard R. Baxter, who was generally recognized as the world's leading expert on that subject. That is precisely why I voluntarily chose to study International Law with him and his long-time collaborator Louis B. Sohn, and not with the bean-counter Vagts. For the entire post-World War II generation of international law students at Harvard Law School, Louis Sohn shall always be our real Bemis Professor of International Law and never the False Pretender to that Throne known as Detlev Vagts. Since those student days I have personally appeared pro bono publico in five U.S. military courts-martial proceedings involving warfare that were organized in accordance with the Congress's Uniform Code of Military Justice (U.C.M.J.)--which still does not apply to the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts despite the ruling by the U. S. Supreme Court in Hamdan that the U.C.M.J. should be applied in Guantanamo--on behalf of five U. S. military personnel who each acted as matters of courage, integrity, principle, conscience and at great risk to their own freedom: 1. U. S. Marine Corporal Jeff Paterson, the first U.S. military resister to President Bush Sr.'s genocidal war against Iraq; 2. Army Captain Doctor Yolanda Huet-Vaughn, the highest ranking U. S. commissioned officer to be court-martialed for refusing to participate in President Bush Sr.'s genocidal war against Iraq; 3. Captain Lawrence Rockwood, who was court-martialed by the U. S. Army for trying to stop torture in Haiti after the Clinton administration had illegally invaded that country in 1994; 4. Army Staff Sergeant Camilo Mejia, the first U. S. military resister to be court-martialed for refusing to participate in President Bush Jr.'s war of aggression against Iraq; and 5. Army First Lieutenant Ehren Watada, the first U. S. commissioned officer to be court-martialed for his refusal to participate in President Bush Jr.'s war of aggression against Iraq. As I can attest from my direct personal involvement, each and every one of these five courts-martial under the U.C.M.J. were Stalinist show-trials produced and directed by the Pentagon that predictably and readily degenerated into travesties of justice. These five U.C.M.J. courts-martial involving U.S. warfare each proved correct the old adage attributed to Groucho Marx that military justice is to justice as military music is to music. By comparison, the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts will not even be run in accordance with the U.C.M.J. despite the fact that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Hamdan that they should be. The Marx Brothers are running the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts. Whenever they are up and fully operating the Gitmo Courts will constitute Stalinist Show Trials as well as Kangaroo Courts, and their preliminary proceedings have already proven them to be Travesties of Justice. Even worse yet, fully-functioning Stalinist Gitmo Kangaroo Courts will quickly become conveyor-belts of death for alleged and already tortured terrorist suspects along the lines of the Texas execution chamber operated by George Bush Jr. when he was the "governor" of that state and tortured to death 152 victims by means of lethal injection. Gitmo and/or Gitmo-North in Illinois will become Americas first-ever Nazi-style death camp. But today under the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949, executing persons detained as a result of armed conflict without a fair trial before a regularly constituted court constitutes a grave war crime. To be sure, under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution Harvard Law Professor Vagts has the freedom to advocate war crimes so long as he does not participate in their commission, or incite them, or aid and abet them. But precisely where is that line to be drawn for law professors? In this regard, the Harvard Law School Faculty currently has at least five professors who have advocated torture and war crimes: 1. Vagts himself, who supported abusing the then recently captured President of Iraq Saddam Hussein despite his being publicly acknowledged to be a Prisoner of War by the Bush Jr. administration itself and thus absolutely protected by the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and the Convention against Torture; 2. the infamous Alan Dershowitz, a self-incriminated war criminal in his own right. Dersh publicly acknowledged being a member of a Mossad Committee for approving the murder and assassination of Palestinians, which violates the Geneva Conventions and is thus a grave war crime; 3. the Neo-Con Con Law non-entity known as Richard Parker; 4. Another one of my teachers, Waco Phil Heymann. Previously, Waco Phil had been Deputy to U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, the Butcher of Waco. Reno ordered the Waco Massacre, while Heymann ordered its cover-up and thus earned his well-deserved sobriquet of Waco Phil as an Accessory After The Fact. All those incinerated women and children! 5. The war criminal Jack Goldsmith who while working as a lawyer for the Bush Jr. administration at both the Pentagon and later its Department of In-Justice did much of the legal spade-work designing, justifying and approving the hideous human rights atrocities that the Bush Jr. administration inflicted on everyone after 9/11. Goldsmith and his co-felon accomplice and co-conspirator from the Bush Jr. administration Professor John Yoo--now desecrating Berkeley's Law School where my friend and colleague the late, great Dean Frank Newman had taught Human Rights and International Law--are functionally analogous to Nazi Law Professor Carl Schmitt, who justified every hideous atrocity that Hitler and the Nazis inflicted on anyone, including the Jews. Despite my best efforts to prevent it, the Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans hired the war criminal Goldsmith right out of the Bush Jr. administration knowing full well that he was up to his eyeballs in the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts, torture, war crimes, enforced disappearances, murder, kidnapping, and crimes against humanity, at a minimum. And when Goldsmith's proverbial "smoking-gun" Department of In-Justice Memorandum was published by the Washington Post, then Harvard Law School's Dean Elena Kagan contemptuously boasted in response about how "proud" she was to have hired this notorious war criminal. Previously Kagan had also publicly bragged that the future of International Legal Studies at Harvard Law School would be in the "good hands" of their resident war criminal Goldsmith. How perversely and tragically true! The Neo-Conservative Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans deliberately hired this Neo-Nazi legal architect of the Bush Jr. administration's bogus and nefarious "war against terrorism" because they fully support it together with all its essential accouterments of torture, kangaroo courts, war crimes, murder, kidnapping, enforced disappearances, crimes against humanity, and Nuremburg crimes against peace. By contrast, after the terrorist bombing of the Murrah Federal Building by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols in alleged revenge for the Waco Massacre and Cover-up by Janet Reno and Waco Phil Heymann, to the best of my recollection I do not remember that the Neo-Conservative Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans advocated kangaroo courts, torture, war crimes, and racist profiling for America's population of White Judeo-Christian Males. Yet after 9/11 the fundamentally White Racist Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans have no problem with inflicting torture, kangaroo courts, war crimes, and racist profiling upon Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color, which is exactly why they hired the war criminal Goldsmith to teach such criminal practices to their own law students and thus someday turn them into racist U. S. governmental war criminals in their own right. This is because for the most part the Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans have always been viscerally bigoted and racist against Muslims/Arabs/Asians and other People of Color since at least when I first matriculated there in September of 1971. The Harvard Law School (H.L.S.) Faculty and Deans are no longer fit to educate Lawyers, Members of the Bar, and Officers of the Court. They are a sick joke and a demented fraud. Groucho Marx would have had a field day with them: Harvard is to Law School as Torture is to Law. The Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans torture the Law. Do not send your children or students to Harvard Law School where they will grow up to become racist war criminals! Harvard Law School is a Neo-Con cesspool. As for Harvard Laws Neo-Con Dean Kagan, Harvard Law Graduate President Barack Obama appointed her Solicitor General in his Department of Justice as the third highest ranking official in that department and thus as the proverbial oeTenth Justice for the 9-Justice U.S. Supreme Court. In this capacity Kagan has quarter-backed, supervised, and defended in all U.S. federal courts the Obama administrations continuation of the Bush Jr. administrations hideous atrocities perpetrated against human rights, international law, civil rights, civil liberties, the U.S. Constitution, and Americas Bill of Rights. As payback for her yeoman Neo-Con efforts, Kagan is now reportedly at the top of a very short list for President Obama to nominate to the U.S. Supreme Court upon the expected retirement of Mr. Justice Stevens, the reputed leader of the Courts oeliberal wing. Of course Stevens widespread denomination as a oeliberal just proves how far to the reactionary right the Supreme Court has moved since Stevens was recommended for the Supremes to President Gerald Ford by the arch-reactionary jurist Edward Hirsh Levi, then U.S. Attorney General and previously Dean of the arch-reactionary University of Chicago Law School where Antonin Scalia, Obama, Kagan, and her pet war criminal Goldsmith would all teach. As President of the entire arch-reactionary University of Chicago itself, Levi drove out about 30% of my undergraduate class that in 1968 had unwittingly entered this Birthplace and Warren for the Neo-Con Movement that was founded there by Chicago Professor Leo Strauss, a protégé of Nazi Law Professor Carl Schmitt. Americas Neo-Cons are Neo-Nazis. In an interview she recently gave to National Public Radio, Obamas Neo-Con Solicitor General Kagan went out of her way to proclaim: oeI love the Federalist Society! (Emphasis in the original.) The Federalist Society is a gang of lawyers, law professors, and judges who for the most part are right-wing, racist, bigoted, reactionary, elitist, war-mongering, and totalitarian. For example, almost all of the Bush Jr. administration lawyers responsible for its war criminal torture scandal were and still are members of the Federalist Society. Likewise, five Justices on the current U.S. Supreme Court were/are members of the Federalist Society: Harvard Law Graduate Roberts; Harvard Law Graduate Scalia; Harvard Law Graduate Kennedy; Yale Law Graduate Thomas; and Yale Law Graduate Alito. Thats what an oeelite legal education will do for you. In any event, H.L.S. President Obamas elevation of the H.L.S. Neo-Con Kagan to the Supremes would cement the Federalist Societys Neo-Con stranglehold over the U.S. Supreme Court for the next generation. As for another publicly touted Supremes candidate, the Neo-Con Cass Sunstein of the University of Chicago Law School and Harvard Law School, who is currently working at the White House as Obamas Disinformation and Infiltration Czar, would be just as lethal as Kagan to the American Constitution and Republic if sitting on the U.S. Supreme Court. Time for the Ordinary People of America to get organized against these Neo-Con legal elites! _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 22 14:32:41 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 14:32:41 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] 2: News Gazoo Ad for HLS War Criminal Dirty Dersh Message-ID: US Army Field Manual 27-10, The Laws of Land Warfare, sets forth the Rules of the Customary International Laws of War. Paragraph 500 therefore expressly provides that the “direct incitement” of a Nuremberg War Crime is a War Crime in its own right that is “punishable.” As you can see below DirtyDersh published an article in the Jerusalem Post that was directly intended to incite Numerous Nuremberg War Crimes against the Palestinians by Israel, which was a War Crime in its own right. Fab. The Jerusalem Post ^ | 3/11/2002 | Alan M. Dershowitz Posted on ‎3‎/‎10‎/‎2002‎ ‎6‎:‎34‎:‎44‎ ‎PM by eclectic (March 11) - US Secretary of State Colin Powell is surely correct in pointing out that Israel's current policy has not succeeded in curbing terrorism. But Powell has suggested no alternative policy. Surely the US cannot expect Israel simply to absorb terrorist attacks without any response. In light of the willingness of suicide bombers to die in the process of killing Israelis, the traditional methods of deterrence and retaliation seem insufficient. To succeed, Israel must turn the Palestinian leadership and people against the use of terrorism and the terrorists themselves. One way to do this is to make terrorists directly bear the responsibility for losses inflicted on the Palestinian cause as a direct result of their terrorism. Here is my proposal. Israel should announce an immediate unilateral cessation in retaliation against terrorist attacks. This moratorium would be in effect for a short period, say four or five days, to give the Palestinian leadership an opportunity to respond to the new policy. It would also make it clear to the world that Israel is taking an important step in ending what has become a cycle of violence. Following the end of the moratorium, Israel would institute the following new policy if Palestinian terrorism were to resume. It will announce precisely what it will do in response to the next act of terrorism. For example, it could announce the first act of terrorism following the moratorium will result in the destruction of a small village which has been used as a base for terrorist operations. The residents would be given 24 hours to leave, and then troops will come in and bulldoze all of the buildings. The response will be automatic. The order will have been given in advance of the terrorist attacks and there will be no discretion. The point is to make the automatic destruction of the village the fault of the Palestinian terrorists who had advance warnings of the specific consequences of their action. The soldiers would simply be acting as the means for carrying out a previously announced policy of retaliation against a designated target. Further acts of terrorism would trigger further destruction of specifically named locations. The "waiting list" targets would be made public and circulated throughout the Palestinian-controlled areas. If this automatic policy of destroying targets announced in advance is carried out with the full support of the entire government, including those who are committed to a resumption of the peace process, a clear message will be sent to the Palestinian people: Every time terrorists blow themselves up and kill civilians, they are also blowing up one of their own villages. Over time, the Palestinian residents of these villages will place the blame where it should be placed: directly on the Palestinian terrorists who engaged in terrorism against Israel with full knowledge the consequence would be the destruction of their homes. Those villagers whose homes were coming up on the list would have an incentive to pressure the terrorists to desist. An alternative approach would be to announce in advance that Israel is prepared to give back most of the occupied territory in the event of peace - which it has already essentially done - but every act of terrorism will result in an automatic and permanent decrease of a specific portion of the land mass that eventually would constitute the Palestinian state. Again, this decision would have to be announced in advance with the approval of all Israeli parties who would be involved in a peace deal. The land that would be surrendered by the future Palestinian state to Israel in response to every terrorist act would be immediately annexed to Israel and be deemed a permanent part of the Jewish state, ceded to it by the deliberate acts of the terrorists. This would send a clear message that every act of terrorism will hurt the Palestinian cause, making a reality out of President George W. Bush's statement following the terrorist murder of Daniel Pearl: "[Terrorists] need to know that these crimes only hurt their cause." For this policy to work, it must have the advance approval of the US government. If Israel carries out this policy after a moratorium on retaliation and full notice to the Palestinians, it should not be criticized for doing so. If the entire world knows this is the policy and that it will be enforced automatically, and that the decision whether to trigger it in any given case rests completely with those who would engage in acts of terrorism against Israel, then pressure will be brought to bear on Palestinian terrorists to refrain from their intended actions. For this policy to work, it must be accompanied by a genuine effort to reopen realistic peace talks with the Palestinian Authority. Such a double-edged policy would contribute to two noble causes at the same time: helping to reduce terrorism and promoting peace between the Israelis and Palestinians. (The writer is a professor of law at Harvard. His latest book is Shouting Fire: Civil Liberties in a Turbulent Age.) Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 9:10 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: News Gazoo Ad for HLS War Criminal Dirty Dersh/ War Crimes-Torture-Mongerer WACO Phil Heymann "Mentor" for Rod Rosenstein ...In this regard, the Harvard Law School Faculty currently has at least five professors who have advocated torture and war crimes:.... ...2. the infamous Alan Dershowitz, a self-incriminated war criminal in his own right. Dersh publicly acknowledged being a member of a Mossad Committee for approving the murder and assassination of Palestinians, which violates the Geneva Conventions and is thus a grave war crime; Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 9:00 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: War Crimes-Torture-Mongerer WACO Phil Heymann "Mentor" for Rod Rosenstein Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 8:59 AM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: NYT: War Crimes-Torture-Mongerer WACO Phil Heymann "Mentor" for Rod Rosenstein ...In this regard, the Harvard Law School Faculty currently has at least five professors who have advocated torture and war crimes:.... 4. Another one of my teachers, Waco Phil Heymann. Previously, Waco Phil had been Deputy to U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, the Butcher of Waco. Reno ordered the Waco Massacre, while Heymann ordered its cover-up and thus earned his well-deserved sobriquet of Waco Phil as an Accessory After The Fact. All those incinerated women and children! .... Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:FBOYLE at law.illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 8:58 AM To: Killeacle Subject: Harvard's Gitmo Kangaroo Law School Copyright 2010 Newstex LLC All Rights Reserved Newstex Web Blogs Copyright 2010 Atlantic Free Press Atlantic Free Press April 2, 2010 Friday 12:27 AM EST LENGTH: 2153 words HEADLINE: Harvard's Gitmo Kangaroo Law School: The School for Torturers BYLINE: Francis A Boyle BODY:     Apr. 2, 2010 (Atlantic Free Press delivered by Newstex) -- by Francis A. Boyle Ph.D. Not surprisingly, the January 2007 issue of the American Journal of Imperial Law--otherwise known as the self-styled American Journal of International Law but originally founded a century ago and still operated by U. S. War and State Department legal apparatchiks and their law professorial fellow-travelers-- published an article by Harvard Law School's recently retired Bemis Professor of International Law Detlev Vagts (who only taught me the required course on Legal Accounting) arguing in favor of the Pentagon's Kangaroo Courts System on Guantanamo despite the fact that they have been soundly condemned by every human rights organization and every human rights official and leader in the entire world as well as by the United States Supreme Court itself in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld (2006).     I am not going to bother to recite here all the grievous deficiencies of the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts under International Law and U.S. Constitutional Law. But suffice it to say that the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts constitute war crimes under the Laws of War, the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949, and even the U. S. Army's own Field Manual 27-10, The Law of Land Warfare (1956). Field Manual 27-10 was drafted for the Pentagon by my Laws of War teacher Richard R. Baxter, who was generally recognized as the world's leading expert on that subject. That is precisely why I voluntarily chose to study International Law with him and his long-time collaborator Louis B. Sohn, and not with the bean-counter Vagts. For the entire post-World War II generation of international law students at Harvard Law School, Louis Sohn shall always be our real Bemis Professor of International Law and never the False Pretender to that Throne known as Detlev Vagts. Since those student days I have personally appeared pro bono publico in five U.S. military courts-martial proceedings involving warfare that were organized in accordance with the Congress's Uniform Code of Military Justice (U.C.M.J.)--which still does not apply to the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts despite the ruling by the U. S. Supreme Court in Hamdan that the U.C.M.J. should be applied in Guantanamo--on behalf of five U. S. military personnel who each acted as matters of courage, integrity, principle, conscience and at great risk to their own freedom: 1. U. S. Marine Corporal Jeff Paterson, the first U.S. military resister to President Bush Sr.'s genocidal war against Iraq; 2. Army Captain Doctor Yolanda Huet-Vaughn, the highest ranking U. S. commissioned officer to be court-martialed for refusing to participate in President Bush Sr.'s genocidal war against Iraq; 3. Captain Lawrence Rockwood, who was court-martialed by the U. S. Army for trying to stop torture in Haiti after the Clinton administration had illegally invaded that country in 1994; 4. Army Staff Sergeant Camilo Mejia, the first U. S. military resister to be court-martialed for refusing to participate in President Bush Jr.'s war of aggression against Iraq; and 5. Army First Lieutenant Ehren Watada, the first U. S. commissioned officer to be court-martialed for his refusal to participate in President Bush Jr.'s war of aggression against Iraq. As I can attest from my direct personal involvement, each and every one of these five courts-martial under the U.C.M.J. were Stalinist show-trials produced and directed by the Pentagon that predictably and readily degenerated into travesties of justice. These five U.C.M.J. courts-martial involving U.S. warfare each proved correct the old adage attributed to Groucho Marx that military justice is to justice as military music is to music. By comparison, the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts will not even be run in accordance with the U.C.M.J. despite the fact that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Hamdan that they should be. The Marx Brothers are running the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts. Whenever they are up and fully operating the Gitmo Courts will constitute Stalinist Show Trials as well as Kangaroo Courts, and their preliminary proceedings have already proven them to be Travesties of Justice. Even worse yet, fully-functioning Stalinist Gitmo Kangaroo Courts will quickly become conveyor-belts of death for alleged and already tortured terrorist suspects along the lines of the Texas execution chamber operated by George Bush Jr. when he was the "governor" of that state and tortured to death 152 victims by means of lethal injection. Gitmo and/or Gitmo-North in Illinois will become Americas first-ever Nazi-style death camp. But today under the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949, executing persons detained as a result of armed conflict without a fair trial before a regularly constituted court constitutes a grave war crime. To be sure, under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution Harvard Law Professor Vagts has the freedom to advocate war crimes so long as he does not participate in their commission, or incite them, or aid and abet them. But precisely where is that line to be drawn for law professors? In this regard, the Harvard Law School Faculty currently has at least five professors who have advocated torture and war crimes: 1. Vagts himself, who supported abusing the then recently captured President of Iraq Saddam Hussein despite his being publicly acknowledged to be a Prisoner of War by the Bush Jr. administration itself and thus absolutely protected by the Third Geneva Convention of 1949 and the Convention against Torture; 2. the infamous Alan Dershowitz, a self-incriminated war criminal in his own right. Dersh publicly acknowledged being a member of a Mossad Committee for approving the murder and assassination of Palestinians, which violates the Geneva Conventions and is thus a grave war crime; 3. the Neo-Con Con Law non-entity known as Richard Parker; 4. Another one of my teachers, Waco Phil Heymann. Previously, Waco Phil had been Deputy to U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, the Butcher of Waco. Reno ordered the Waco Massacre, while Heymann ordered its cover-up and thus earned his well-deserved sobriquet of Waco Phil as an Accessory After The Fact. All those incinerated women and children! 5. The war criminal Jack Goldsmith who while working as a lawyer for the Bush Jr. administration at both the Pentagon and later its Department of In-Justice did much of the legal spade-work designing, justifying and approving the hideous human rights atrocities that the Bush Jr. administration inflicted on everyone after 9/11. Goldsmith and his co-felon accomplice and co-conspirator from the Bush Jr. administration Professor John Yoo--now desecrating Berkeley's Law School where my friend and colleague the late, great Dean Frank Newman had taught Human Rights and International Law--are functionally analogous to Nazi Law Professor Carl Schmitt, who justified every hideous atrocity that Hitler and the Nazis inflicted on anyone, including the Jews. Despite my best efforts to prevent it, the Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans hired the war criminal Goldsmith right out of the Bush Jr. administration knowing full well that he was up to his eyeballs in the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts, torture, war crimes, enforced disappearances, murder, kidnapping, and crimes against humanity, at a minimum. And when Goldsmith's proverbial "smoking-gun" Department of In-Justice Memorandum was published by the Washington Post, then Harvard Law School's Dean Elena Kagan contemptuously boasted in response about how "proud" she was to have hired this notorious war criminal. Previously Kagan had also publicly bragged that the future of International Legal Studies at Harvard Law School would be in the "good hands" of their resident war criminal Goldsmith. How perversely and tragically true! The Neo-Conservative Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans deliberately hired this Neo-Nazi legal architect of the Bush Jr. administration's bogus and nefarious "war against terrorism" because they fully support it together with all its essential accouterments of torture, kangaroo courts, war crimes, murder, kidnapping, enforced disappearances, crimes against humanity, and Nuremburg crimes against peace. By contrast, after the terrorist bombing of the Murrah Federal Building by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols in alleged revenge for the Waco Massacre and Cover-up by Janet Reno and Waco Phil Heymann, to the best of my recollection I do not remember that the Neo-Conservative Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans advocated kangaroo courts, torture, war crimes, and racist profiling for America's population of White Judeo-Christian Males. Yet after 9/11 the fundamentally White Racist Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans have no problem with inflicting torture, kangaroo courts, war crimes, and racist profiling upon Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color, which is exactly why they hired the war criminal Goldsmith to teach such criminal practices to their own law students and thus someday turn them into racist U. S. governmental war criminals in their own right. This is because for the most part the Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans have always been viscerally bigoted and racist against Muslims/Arabs/Asians and other People of Color since at least when I first matriculated there in September of 1971. The Harvard Law School (H.L.S.) Faculty and Deans are no longer fit to educate Lawyers, Members of the Bar, and Officers of the Court. They are a sick joke and a demented fraud. Groucho Marx would have had a field day with them: Harvard is to Law School as Torture is to Law. The Harvard Law School Faculty and Deans torture the Law. Do not send your children or students to Harvard Law School where they will grow up to become racist war criminals! Harvard Law School is a Neo-Con cesspool. As for Harvard Laws Neo-Con Dean Kagan, Harvard Law Graduate President Barack Obama appointed her Solicitor General in his Department of Justice as the third highest ranking official in that department and thus as the proverbial oeTenth Justice for the 9-Justice U.S. Supreme Court. In this capacity Kagan has quarter-backed, supervised, and defended in all U.S. federal courts the Obama administrations continuation of the Bush Jr. administrations hideous atrocities perpetrated against human rights, international law, civil rights, civil liberties, the U.S. Constitution, and Americas Bill of Rights. As payback for her yeoman Neo-Con efforts, Kagan is now reportedly at the top of a very short list for President Obama to nominate to the U.S. Supreme Court upon the expected retirement of Mr. Justice Stevens, the reputed leader of the Courts oeliberal wing. Of course Stevens widespread denomination as a oeliberal just proves how far to the reactionary right the Supreme Court has moved since Stevens was recommended for the Supremes to President Gerald Ford by the arch-reactionary jurist Edward Hirsh Levi, then U.S. Attorney General and previously Dean of the arch-reactionary University of Chicago Law School where Antonin Scalia, Obama, Kagan, and her pet war criminal Goldsmith would all teach. As President of the entire arch-reactionary University of Chicago itself, Levi drove out about 30% of my undergraduate class that in 1968 had unwittingly entered this Birthplace and Warren for the Neo-Con Movement that was founded there by Chicago Professor Leo Strauss, a protégé of Nazi Law Professor Carl Schmitt. Americas Neo-Cons are Neo-Nazis. In an interview she recently gave to National Public Radio, Obamas Neo-Con Solicitor General Kagan went out of her way to proclaim: oeI love the Federalist Society! (Emphasis in the original.) The Federalist Society is a gang of lawyers, law professors, and judges who for the most part are right-wing, racist, bigoted, reactionary, elitist, war-mongering, and totalitarian. For example, almost all of the Bush Jr. administration lawyers responsible for its war criminal torture scandal were and still are members of the Federalist Society. Likewise, five Justices on the current U.S. Supreme Court were/are members of the Federalist Society: Harvard Law Graduate Roberts; Harvard Law Graduate Scalia; Harvard Law Graduate Kennedy; Yale Law Graduate Thomas; and Yale Law Graduate Alito. Thats what an oeelite legal education will do for you. In any event, H.L.S. President Obamas elevation of the H.L.S. Neo-Con Kagan to the Supremes would cement the Federalist Societys Neo-Con stranglehold over the U.S. Supreme Court for the next generation. As for another publicly touted Supremes candidate, the Neo-Con Cass Sunstein of the University of Chicago Law School and Harvard Law School, who is currently working at the White House as Obamas Disinformation and Infiltration Czar, would be just as lethal as Kagan to the American Constitution and Republic if sitting on the U.S. Supreme Court. Time for the Ordinary People of America to get organized against these Neo-Con legal elites! _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sun Apr 22 14:55:25 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 09:55:25 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Mort's Letter in NG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6A70D36F-F297-4259-A9C6-766F7A035727@gmail.com> When someone my age begins to assert that those around him are living in a fantasy world - we recall the sentiment in the Latin tag 'de te fabula narratur’… Get real, Roger. It’s revelatory of the neocon/war party position that your great fear is that Trump will "denuclearize North Korea and ... will not renuclearize Iran ... That certainly is a scary thought”! Trump’s threat in the campaign to let peace break out produced the hysterical ‘Russiagate’ nonsense and the political establishment's campaign to force Trump to continue the Obama administration’s heightened war provocations against Russia and China. That’s had some success - how much is yet to be seen. The nefarious contributions of US MSM to US war-making from Vietnam thru Iraq and Syria are well known and even recognized by Americans, more than in the past. —CGE > On Apr 22, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Roger Helbig via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Sputnik News is sort of like a new version of Pravda, so not really a reliable source of information - it most certainly is not an actual news service, but FAB has disdained actual news for years now - he sort of lives in a fantasy hate America world with some of the rest of you. Trump lives in his own fantasy world too, but maybe he will denuclearize North Korea and hopefully will not renuclearize Iran or nuclearize Saudi Arabia. That certainly is a scary thought. I expect that the Russian missiles will come with Russian technicians who might get killed by an airstrike against the missile site. That certainly is not something that bodes well for anyone. > > Roger > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 5:43 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: > > https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804211063771292-trump-syria-agression-forestate/ > > WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - Russia appears ready to lift its self-imposed ban on selling S-300 air defense systems to Syria as fears grow that the United States and its allies are massing their forces to attack the country again, analysts said. > > Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told Sputnik on Friday that Moscow was no longer bound by a moral duty not to supply Damascus with S-300 air defense missile systems after last week's Western strikes on Syria. > > Supplying those weapons will contribute to the political stability of the Syrian government, Samer Shiha, a member of the Syrian People’s Assembly, told Sputnik later in the day. > > On April 13, the United States, assisted by France and the United Kingdom, fired 105 missiles at targets in Syria, while the US nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman and its task force are currently sailing toward the Eastern Mediterranean. > > Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov > © Sputnik / Maksim Blinov > > EXCLUSIVE: Putin, Trump Will Never Allow US-Russia Armed Conflict, Lavrov Says Washington said the strike was in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack in the Syrian city of Douma and blamed the Syrian government — but also Russia and Iran — for the incident. > > The Syrian government said it had not used chemical weapons and the incident was staged by the Jaish al-Islam terror group to pave the way for a foreign intervention in Syria. > > US PREPARING TO LAUNCH MORE ATTACKS ON SYRIA > > The missile strike against targets in Syria last week seems to be a prelude to additional attacks, University of Illinois Professor of International Law Francis Boyle cautioned. > > "It sounds like they will do it again," Boyle said. "The carrier strike force heading there: It should be there later this week. Why is the Truman heading over there right now at flank speed? It doesn’t look good." > > Boyle pointed out that the readiness of the United States and its allies to launch last week’s strike against Syria before undertaking any real investigation into who actually carried out the April 7 chemical attack in Douma encouraged all the jihadi groups in Syria to launch more such attacks. > > "[The strikes were] basically an invitation to aggressive jihad groups to stage another chemical weapons attack," Boyle said. "This was not a one off affair, as [Secretary of Defense James] Mattis claimed… It is a very dangerous situation." > > Boyle noted that the attack on Syria violated the terms of United Nations Charter and was a crime against international law. > > Also, "Under US constitutional law it clearly violates Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution. It is an impeachable offense: It contravenes US Army Field Manual 27-10 The Law of Land Warfare," he said. > > Syrian President Bashar al-Assad giving an interview. File photo © AFP 2018 / HO/SANA > > Assad Returns Legion of Honour Award to 'US Slave' France After Strikes on Syria The April 13 US bombing of Syria came as US President Donald Trump faced a new round of controversy over the accusations against him made by former FBI Director James Comey in his new book "A Higher Loyalty.." > > "Why did Trump bomb on [April 13]? What was the rush? Trump knew full well Comey was publishing his memoirs: So he bombed. President [Bill] Clinton did exactly the same thing during the Monica Lewinsky matter in 1998. Barbara Ehrenreich then called it ‘The Bimbo Bombings,’" he said. > > Boyle predicted Trump was likely to resort again to bombing Syria in his efforts to distract the US public from Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller’s ongoing investigation into his affairs. > > "I am afraid we will probably be seeing more bombing by Mr. Trump as the whole Mueller-gate matter is not going away… It is important to understand the danger here Trump is in the same situation as Clinton. The danger is not past. Syria could become the Sarajevo of 1914," Boyle said. > > However, Trump’s political opponents and war hawks wanted to push the president into more strikes against the Damascus government, Boyle warned. > > "It does seem to me that they are using the Mueller investigation to pressure Trump to attack Syria," he said. > > US RUNNING RISKS OF 1914 SARAJEVO-STYLE ESCALATION > > __._,_.___ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They will have to cook and I can eat left overs.    David J.     From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 8:28 AM To: Karen Aram Cc: peace; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Event "Challenging the Russiagate Narrative" this Sunday @ 5:00PM   Carl Estabrook has suggested cancelation of tonights AWARE meeting, in order for AWARE members to attend this important event. Carl passing up a beer, for an event, proves the importance of this issue. :)    Please see below:    The phenomenon known as “Russiagate” is a ubiquitous, viral narrative that dominates the corporate news cycle and penetrates many layers of popular discourse. From server hacking to BOT farms, from Facebook ads to Pokémon Go, Russia’s nefarious influence seems to reach everywhere. But despite the multitude of claims, accusations of Russian influence have been dubious and have fallen apart over time. So why does the Russiagate narrative persist? Join the Party for Socialism and Liberation C-U for a presentation that probes both the past and present for answers. We will be discussing post-Soviet relations between Eastern Europe and the West and how these events set the stage for the current political climate, the timeline of Russiagate events, and the political utility of the Russiagate narrative and its consequences. A question and answer segment will follow. We urge anyone who is interested in understanding both domestic and international politics to attend this event to learn and discuss the origins, substance, and ramifications of the Russiagate phenomenon. We hope to see you Sunday, April 22nd at the IMC APR22 Going Challenging the Russiagate Narrative Sun 5 PM CDT · Urbana-Champaign Independent Media Center · Urbana, IL David, Augustus and 9 friends   _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace   _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss   -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 22 20:40:20 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 20:40:20 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: German opposition kept Merkel from joining US, UK, and France in missile strikes on Syria by KPFA 94.1-FM Berkeley Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 3:39 PM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: German opposition kept Merkel from joining US, UK, and France in missile strikes on Syria by KPFA 94.1-FM Berkeley https://soundcloud.com/kpfa-fm-94-1-berkeley/german-opposition-keeps-merkel-from-joining-us-uk-france-in-firing-missiles-at-syria From r-szoke at illinois.edu Sun Apr 22 22:02:03 2018 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 22:02:03 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Correct Doctrine Message-ID: <385EE330-94C9-4483-8FB3-4583B555D449@illinois.edu> REMEMBER that you have it on the authority of your wizard, prophet, mastermind & micro-pontiff, that Trump is being forced into military expansion by the corrupt & evil War Party (Democrats, Deep State, etc.), while Obama & Hillary did it because they are innately bloodthirsty, vicious & evil. This is Correct Doctrine, right? POLITICS A Shadowy War’s Newest Front: A Drone Base Rising From Saharan Dust By ERIC SCHMITT NYT APRIL 22, 2018 AIR BASE 201, Niger — Rising from a barren stretch of African scrubland, a half-finished drone base represents the newest front line in America’s global shadow war. At its center, hundreds of Air Force personnel are feverishly working to complete a $110 million airfield that, when finished in the coming months, will be used to stalk or strike extremists deep into West and North Africa, a region where most Americans have no idea the country is fighting. Near the nascent runway, Army Green Berets are training Nigerien forces to carry out counterterrorism raids or fend off an enemy ambush — like the one that killed four American soldiers near the Mali border last fall. Taken together, these parallel missions reflect a largely undeclared American military buildup outside the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan, often with murky authorities and little public attention, unfolding in remote places like Yemen, Somalia and, increasingly, West Africa. In Niger alone, the Pentagon in the past few years has doubled the number of United States troops, to about 800 — not to conduct unilateral combat missions, but to battle an increasingly dangerous Al Qaeda, the Islamic State and even loosely associated extremist groups with proxy forces and drone strikes. The military’s missions in Niger are expected to come under scrutiny in a long-awaited Defense Department investigation into the deadly Oct. 4 ambush that is nearing release. Continue reading the main story Photo [merlin_136996803_4397776d-a397-4359-9e72-8c15902c5214-superJumbo.jpg] An American Special Forces soldier training Nigerien troops during an exercise on the Air Base 201 compound. Credit Tara Todras-Whitehill for The New York Times “The base, and the more frequent flights that its opening will allow, will give us far more situational awareness and intelligence on a region that has been a hub of illicit and extremist activity,” said P.W. Singer, a strategist at New America in Washington who has written extensively about drones. “But it will also further involve us in yet more operations and fights that few Americans are even aware our military is in.” Questions about whether the American military, under the Trump administration, is seeking to obscure the expanding scope of operations in Africa surfaced last month when it was revealed that the United States had carried out four airstrikes in Libya between September and January that the military’s Africa Command had failed to disclose at the time. Soon after, the military acknowledged for the first time that Green Berets working with Nigerien forces had killed 11 Islamic State militants in a multiday firefight in December. No American or Nigerien forces were harmed in the December gun battle. But the combat — along with at least 10 other previously unreported attacks on American troops in West Africa between 2015 and 2017 — underscored the fact that the deadly ambush in Niger was not an isolated episode. Nigerien forces and their American advisers are preparing other major operations to clear out militants, military officials say. “It’s essential that the American public is aware of, engaged in, and decides whether or not to support American military operations in countries around the world, including Niger,” said Senator Chris Coons, Democrat of Delaware, who visited Niger with four other senators this month. Six months after the fatal attack, which took place outside the village of Tongo Tongo near the Mali border, the Trump administration stands at a critical crossroad in the military’s global counterterrorism campaign. One path would push ahead with President Trump’s campaign vow to defeat the Islamic State and other violent extremist organizations, not just in Iraq and Syria, but worldwide. The other would be to pull out and leave more of the fighting to allies, as Mr. Trump said he wants to do in Syria, possibly ceding hard-fought ground to militants. During a counterterrorism exercise this past week in north-central Niger that drew nearly 2,000 military personnel from 20 African and Western countries, many officers voiced concerns that America’s commitment in West Africa could fall victim to the latter impulse. [merlin_136996812_919fb617-fc82-4010-aa63-5879e29d66a6-superJumbo.jpg] An American airman near an overturned plane at the Agadez airfield. “It’s important to still have support from the U.S. to help train my men, to help with our shortfalls,” said Col. Maj. Moussa Salaou Barmou, commander of Niger’s 2,000 Special Operations forces, who trained at Fort Benning, Ga., and the National Defense University in Washington. In an interview on the sidelines of the exercise, Maj. Gen. J. Marcus Hicks, the head of American Special Operations forces in Africa, put it this way: “This is an insurance policy that’s very inexpensive, and I think we need to keep paying into it.” Building a new base in this remote, landlocked country nearly twice the size of Texas marks the latest chapter in the military’s contentious history of drone operations around the world. It comes as American drone strikes are on the rise again, after tapering off somewhat in places like Pakistan. The number of American strikes against Islamist militants last year tripled in Yemen and doubled in Somalia from the figure a year before. Last month, an armed drone flown from a second base in Niger killed a Qaeda leader in southern Libya for the first time, signaling a possible expansion of strikes there. Where American and Nigerien officials see enhanced security in drone operations — for surveillance, strikes or protecting Special Forces patrols — others fear a potentially destabilizing impact that could hand valuable recruiting propaganda to an array of groups aligned with Al Qaeda and the Islamic State, and that could increase the militants’ menace. “Eliminating jihadi military leaders through drone operations could temporarily disorganize insurgent groups,” said Jean-Hervé Jezequel, deputy director of the International Crisis Group’s West Africa project in Dakar, Senegal. “But eventually the void could also lead to the rise of new and younger leaders who are likely to engage into more violent and spectacular operations to assert their leadership.” A rare visit this month to Air Base 201, the largest construction project that Air Force engineers have ever undertaken alone, revealed several challenges. Commanders grapple with swirling dust storms, scorching temperatures and lengthy spare-part deliveries to fix broken equipment. All have conspired to put the project more than a year behind schedule and $22 million over its original budget. [merlin_136996686_4ae8ad61-0419-4fdc-bc67-ffd3f28e8f1e-superJumbo.jpg] Construction of a hangar on the new American drone base last week in Agadez, Niger. Credit Tara Todras-Whitehill for The New York Times American officials have sought to allay fears of local residents that the base, just two miles outside the city of Agadez, could be a target for terrorist attacks — not a guardian against them. Rumors circulated that the dozens of dump trucks rumbling in and out of the heavily defended front gates each day were secretly stealing valuable uranium, for which the region is renowned. “We had to overcome some suspicion and distrust,” said Lt. Col. Brad Harbaugh, commander of the 724th Expeditionary Air Base Squadron, the senior officer here. For centuries, Agadez has been an important way-stop for smugglers, migrants and camel caravans traversing the Sahara. The city of 125,000 people is more than 450 miles from Tongo Tongo, where the American soldiers and Nigerien troops were attacked last fall, but militants have also targeted this region in recent years. Photo [DC-Drones4-superJumbo.jpg] Outside the Agadez mosque. American officials have sought to allay fears of local residents that the new drone base, just two miles outside Agadez, could be a target for terrorist attacks. Credit Tara Todras-Whitehill for The New York Times In May 2013, Islamist militants staged coordinated attacks, using suicide car bombs to strike a Nigerien military compound in Agadez and a French-operated uranium company in the nearby town of Arlit. Two groups claimed credit for the bombings, which Nigerien authorities said killed at least 24 soldiers and one civilian, as well as 11 militants. President Barack Obama ordered the first 100 American troops to Niger in February 2013 to help set up unarmed surveillance drone operations in Niamey, Niger’s capital, to support a French-led operation combating Qaeda and affiliated fighters in neighboring Mali. Even as those troops deployed, military officials said then that they ultimately wanted to move the drone operations to outside Agadez, closer to Saharan smuggling routes that Islamist militants use to transport arms and fighters from Libya to northern Mali. Runway construction broke ground in the summer of 2016. Niger’s government approved Air Base 201 in 2014. Last November, a month after the deadly ambush, the government of Niger gave the Defense Department permission to fly armed drones out of Niamey, a major expansion of the American military’s firepower in Africa. American and Nigerien officers here refused to discuss armed operations. But a Defense Department official acknowledged that the military in January started flying armed missions from Niamey, 500 miles southwest of the base, including the deadly strike in southern Libya last month. [0419-for-web-DRONESmap-300.png] 200 MILES By The New York Times MQ-9 Reaper drones, made by General Atomics, will be moved to Air Base 201 once its runway and hangars are completed by early next year, as will several hundred American troops. Roughly half of the 800 American forces in Niger — the second-largest American troop presence in Africa, second only to the 4,000 military personnel at a permanent base in Djibouti — work here now. [merlin_136996572_73e7141b-e1e1-4df0-98ea-13e016dfaa78-superJumbo.jpg] Air Base 101 in Niamey, Niger’s capital, 500 miles southwest of the drone base being constructed outside Agadez. Tara Todras-Whitehill for The New York Times Bill Roggio, editor of the Long War Journal, a website run by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies that tracks military strikes against militant groups, said that moving the drone operations to Agadez had two main advantages. First, he said, the base will be more centrally located to conduct operations throughout the Sahel, a vast area on the southern flank of the Sahara that stretches from Senegal to Sudan and has been seized by a growing wave of terrorism and armed conflict. Second, Agadez is more isolated than Niamey. That will help keep the operations more low-key and away from prying eyes. “The Agadez base has the potential to become the most active counterterrorism hub in Africa,” Mr. Roggio said. The Niger deployment is only the second time that armed drones have been stationed and used in Africa. Drones now based in Djibouti are used in Yemen and Somalia, where there were about 30 strikes last year against Shabab and Islamic State targets — twice the number in 2016. Drones used against targets in Libya have flown from Sicily, but with a range of about 1,100 miles, the Reapers could not reach militant hide-outs in southern Libya. The United States also flies unarmed surveillance drones from bases in Tunisia and Cameroon. At Air Base 201, building a runway more than 6,800 feet long and 150 feet wide poses severe logistical hurdles. Rock from local quarries is crushed into gravel for the runway’s underlying support. But the rock crushers have broken down, forcing workers at least once to use couriers to hand-deliver spare parts from Paris to avoid weekslong shipping delays. “There’s no Home Depot downtown here,” said Colonel Harbaugh, 40, an Afghanistan war veteran from Pittsburgh. Runway construction also requires choreographed precision. Dump trucks disgorge piles of wet gravel. A giant grader equipped with a GPS-controlled blade spreads the rock to an exact depth. Steamrollers pace back and forth behind the grader to compact the gravel. To settle properly, the moistened rocks must not dry too quickly, so much of this work is done at night to avoid daytime temperatures that this past week soared to 107 degrees. Continue reading the main story Photo [merlin_136996677_209eb861-cf14-4766-9d1c-289987267f10-superJumbo.jpg] Off-duty airmen on the Air Base 201 compound. Much of the construction is done at night to avoid daytime temperatures that routinely soar above 100 degrees. Credit Tara Todras-Whitehill for The New York Times Later this summer, workers will lay five inches of asphalt atop the rock bed. In all, commanders say they will pave some 39 acres of airfield. While built mainly for the Reaper drones, the runway and adjoining taxiways and ramps must be able to handle much heavier C-17 cargo planes. Three huge hangars capped in a tan fabric covering sprout-like giant mushrooms, visible from miles away. Each can fit one or more drones. Eventually, the plan is to turn Air Base 201 completely over to the Nigerien military. American and Nigerien security forces now jointly patrol the 2,200-acre site. The base cafeteria employs 80 local workers, and the Americans have spent tens of millions of dollars on local rock, concrete, steel, wood and other supplies. Civic leaders and local journalists were recently invited to tour the base. A four-man civil affairs team led by Capt. Andrew Dacey, a former Army infantry platoon leader in Iraq, has worked closely with civic, religious and educational leaders in Agadez to help address the high unemployment and ill-equipped schools — shortcomings that Islamist extremists can exploit. The team is helping local schools start a metal and wood craftsman apprenticeship that teaches teenage students new skills and supplies classrooms with refurbished desks. “The base has been very helpful for our security and our economy,” said Mahaman Ali, an inspector for primary schools in the area, pointing to piles of broken desks that will be repaired. And yet doubts still linger about the base’s enduring legacy. “The deployment of armed drones is not going to make a strategic difference,” said E.J. Hogendoorn, the International Crisis Group’s deputy Africa program director in Washington, “and may even increase local hostility to the U.S. and the central government in distant Niamey.” Continue reading the main story Photo [merlin_136996743_591b7ead-74de-41ae-8b29-5c2456820d8f-superJumbo.jpg] Children attending classes at a makeshift tent school on the outskirts of Agadez. The Air Force donated supplies to the school, and is working on outreach programs within the community. 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Estabrook) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 17:13:16 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Correct Doctrine In-Reply-To: <385EE330-94C9-4483-8FB3-4583B555D449@illinois.edu> References: <385EE330-94C9-4483-8FB3-4583B555D449@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <5D236B5D-F3DE-481A-877C-63CDF09875E0@illinois.edu> I’m not sure whom you’re caricaturing (Chomsky?), but that may not be true. There is however no doubt about the war crimes committed by the last administration and this one, though, is there? > On Apr 22, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > REMEMBER that you have it on the authority of your wizard, prophet, mastermind & micro-pontiff, that Trump is being forced into military expansion by the corrupt & evil War Party (Democrats, Deep State, etc.), while Obama & Hillary did it because they are innately bloodthirsty, vicious & evil. This is Correct Doctrine, right? > > POLITICS > A Shadowy War’s Newest Front: A Drone Base Rising From Saharan Dust > By ERIC SCHMITT > NYT APRIL 22, 2018 > > AIR BASE 201, Niger — Rising from a barren stretch of African scrubland, a half-finished drone base represents the newest front line in America’s global shadow war. > At its center, hundreds of Air Force personnel are feverishly working to complete a $110 million airfield that, when finished in the coming months, will be used to stalk or strike extremists deep into West and North Africa, a region where most Americans have no idea the country is fighting. > Near the nascent runway, Army Green Berets are training Nigerien forces to carry out counterterrorism raids or fend off an enemy ambush — like the one that killed four American soldiers near the Mali border last fall. > Taken together, these parallel missions reflect a largely undeclared American military buildup outside the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan, often with murky authorities and little public attention, unfolding in remote places like Yemen, Somalia and, increasingly, West Africa. > In Niger alone, the Pentagon in the past few years has doubled the number of United States troops, to about 800 — not to conduct unilateral combat missions, but to battle an increasingly dangerous Al Qaeda, the Islamic State and even loosely associated extremist groups with proxy forces and drone strikes. The military’s missions in Niger are expected to come under scrutiny in a long-awaited Defense Department investigation into the deadly Oct. 4 ambush that is nearing release. > Continue reading the main story > Photo > > An American Special Forces soldier training Nigerien troops during an exercise on the Air Base 201 compound. > Credit > Tara Todras-Whitehill for The New York Times > “The base, and the more frequent flights that its opening will allow, will give us far more situational awareness and intelligence on a region that has been a hub of illicit and extremist activity,” said P.W. Singer, a strategist at New America in Washington who has written extensively about drones. “But it will also further involve us in yet more operations and fights that few Americans are even aware our military is in.” > > Questions about whether the American military, under the Trump administration, is seeking to obscure the expanding scope of operations in Africa surfaced last month when it was revealed that the United States had carried out four airstrikes in Libya between September and January that the military’s Africa Command had failed to disclose at the time. > Soon after, the military acknowledged for the first time that Green Berets working with Nigerien forces had killed 11 Islamic State militants in a multiday firefight in December. No American or Nigerien forces were harmed in the December gun battle. > But the combat — along with at least 10 other previously unreported attacks on American troops in West Africa between 2015 and 2017 — underscored the fact that the deadly ambush in Niger was not an isolated episode. Nigerien forces and their American advisers are preparing other major operations to clear out militants, military officials say. > “It’s essential that the American public is aware of, engaged in, and decides whether or not to support American military operations in countries around the world, including Niger,” said Senator Chris Coons, Democrat of Delaware, who visited Niger with four other senators this month. > Six months after the fatal attack, which took place outside the village of Tongo Tongo near the Mali border, the Trump administration stands at a critical crossroad in the military’s global counterterrorism campaign. > One path would push ahead with President Trump’s campaign vow to defeat the Islamic State and other violent extremist organizations, not just in Iraq and Syria, but worldwide. The other would be to pull out and leave more of the fighting to allies, as Mr. Trump said he wants to do in Syria, possibly ceding hard-fought ground to militants. > During a counterterrorism exercise this past week in north-central Niger that drew nearly 2,000 military personnel from 20 African and Western countries, many officers voiced concerns that America’s commitment in West Africa could fall victim to the latter impulse. > > > An American airman near an overturned plane at the Agadez airfield. > > “It’s important to still have support from the U.S. to help train my men, to help with our shortfalls,” said Col. Maj. Moussa Salaou Barmou, commander of Niger’s 2,000 Special Operations forces, who trained at Fort Benning, Ga., and the National Defense University in Washington. > In an interview on the sidelines of the exercise, Maj. Gen. J. Marcus Hicks, the head of American Special Operations forces in Africa, put it this way: “This is an insurance policy that’s very inexpensive, and I think we need to keep paying into it.” > Building a new base in this remote, landlocked country nearly twice the size of Texas marks the latest chapter in the military’s contentious history of drone operations around the world. > It comes as American drone strikes are on the rise again, after tapering off somewhat in places like Pakistan. The number of American strikes against Islamist militants last year tripled in Yemen and doubled in Somalia from the figure a year before. > Last month, an armed drone flown from a second base in Niger killed a Qaeda leader in southern Libya for the first time, signaling a possible expansion of strikes there. > Where American and Nigerien officials see enhanced security in drone operations — for surveillance, strikes or protecting Special Forces patrols — others fear a potentially destabilizing impact that could hand valuable recruiting propaganda to an array of groups aligned with Al Qaeda and the Islamic State, and that could increase the militants’ menace. > “Eliminating jihadi military leaders through drone operations could temporarily disorganize insurgent groups,” said Jean-Hervé Jezequel, deputy director of the International Crisis Group’s West Africa project in Dakar, Senegal. “But eventually the void could also lead to the rise of new and younger leaders who are likely to engage into more violent and spectacular operations to assert their leadership.” > A rare visit this month to Air Base 201, the largest construction project that Air Force engineers have ever undertaken alone, revealed several challenges. > Commanders grapple with swirling dust storms, scorching temperatures and lengthy spare-part deliveries to fix broken equipment. All have conspired to put the project more than a year behind schedule and $22 million over its original budget. > > > Construction of a hangar on the new American drone base last week in Agadez, Niger. > Credit > Tara Todras-Whitehill for The New York Times > American officials have sought to allay fears of local residents that the base, just two miles outside the city of Agadez, could be a target for terrorist attacks — not a guardian against them. Rumors circulated that the dozens of dump trucks rumbling in and out of the heavily defended front gates each day were secretly stealing valuable uranium, for which the region is renowned. > “We had to overcome some suspicion and distrust,” said Lt. Col. Brad Harbaugh, commander of the 724th Expeditionary Air Base Squadron, the senior officer here. > For centuries, Agadez has been an important way-stop for smugglers, migrants and camel caravans traversing the Sahara. The city of 125,000 people is more than 450 miles from Tongo Tongo, where the American soldiers and Nigerien troops were attacked last fall, but militants have also targeted this region in recent years. > > Photo > > Outside the Agadez mosque. American officials have sought to allay fears of local residents that the new drone base, just two miles outside Agadez, could be a target for terrorist attacks. > Credit > Tara Todras-Whitehill for The New York Times > In May 2013, Islamist militants staged coordinated attacks, using suicide car bombs to strike a Nigerien military compound in Agadez and a French-operated uranium company in the nearby town of Arlit. Two groups claimed credit for the bombings, which Nigerien authorities said killed at least 24 soldiers and one civilian, as well as 11 militants. > President Barack Obama ordered the first 100 American troops to Niger in February 2013 to help set up unarmed surveillance drone operations in Niamey, Niger’s capital, to support a French-led operation combating Qaeda and affiliated fighters in neighboring Mali. > Even as those troops deployed, military officials said then that they ultimately wanted to move the drone operations to outside Agadez, closer to Saharan smuggling routes that Islamist militants use to transport arms and fighters from Libya to northern Mali. Runway construction broke ground in the summer of 2016. > Niger’s government approved Air Base 201 in 2014. Last November, a month after the deadly ambush, the government of Niger gave the Defense Department permission to fly armed drones out of Niamey, a major expansion of the American military’s firepower in Africa. American and Nigerien officers here refused to discuss armed operations. But a Defense Department official acknowledged that the military in January started flying armed missions from Niamey, 500 miles southwest of the base, including the deadly strike in southern Libya last month. > > <0419-for-web-DRONESmap-300.png> > 200 MILES > By The New York Times > MQ-9 Reaper drones, made by General Atomics, will be moved to Air Base 201 once its runway and hangars are completed by early next year, as will several hundred American troops. Roughly half of the 800 American forces in Niger — the second-largest American troop presence in Africa, second only to the 4,000 military personnel at a permanent base in Djibouti — work here now. > > Air Base 101 in Niamey, Niger’s capital, 500 miles southwest of the drone base being constructed outside Agadez. > > Tara Todras-Whitehill for The New York Times > Bill Roggio, editor of the Long War Journal, a website run by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies that tracks military strikes against militant groups, said that moving the drone operations to Agadez had two main advantages. > First, he said, the base will be more centrally located to conduct operations throughout the Sahel, a vast area on the southern flank of the Sahara that stretches from Senegal to Sudan and has been seized by a growing wave of terrorism and armed conflict. > Second, Agadez is more isolated than Niamey. That will help keep the operations more low-key and away from prying eyes. > “The Agadez base has the potential to become the most active counterterrorism hub in Africa,” Mr. Roggio said. > The Niger deployment is only the second time that armed drones have been stationed and used in Africa. > Drones now based in Djibouti are used in Yemen and Somalia, where there were about 30 strikes last year against Shabab and Islamic State targets — twice the number in 2016. Drones used against targets in Libya have flown from Sicily, but with a range of about 1,100 miles, the Reapers could not reach militant hide-outs in southern Libya. > The United States also flies unarmed surveillance drones from bases in Tunisia and Cameroon. > At Air Base 201, building a runway more than 6,800 feet long and 150 feet wide poses severe logistical hurdles. Rock from local quarries is crushed into gravel for the runway’s underlying support. But the rock crushers have broken down, forcing workers at least once to use couriers to hand-deliver spare parts from Paris to avoid weekslong shipping delays. > “There’s no Home Depot downtown here,” said Colonel Harbaugh, 40, an Afghanistan war veteran from Pittsburgh. > Runway construction also requires choreographed precision. > Dump trucks disgorge piles of wet gravel. A giant grader equipped with a GPS-controlled blade spreads the rock to an exact depth. Steamrollers pace back and forth behind the grader to compact the gravel. To settle properly, the moistened rocks must not dry too quickly, so much of this work is done at night to avoid daytime temperatures that this past week soared to 107 degrees. > Continue reading the main story > Photo > > Off-duty airmen on the Air Base 201 compound. Much of the construction is done at night to avoid daytime temperatures that routinely soar above 100 degrees. > Credit > Tara Todras-Whitehill for The New York Times > Later this summer, workers will lay five inches of asphalt atop the rock bed. In all, commanders say they will pave some 39 acres of airfield. While built mainly for the Reaper drones, the runway and adjoining taxiways and ramps must be able to handle much heavier C-17 cargo planes. Three huge hangars capped in a tan fabric covering sprout-like giant mushrooms, visible from miles away. Each can fit one or more drones. > Eventually, the plan is to turn Air Base 201 completely over to the Nigerien military. American and Nigerien security forces now jointly patrol the 2,200-acre site. The base cafeteria employs 80 local workers, and the Americans have spent tens of millions of dollars on local rock, concrete, steel, wood and other supplies. Civic leaders and local journalists were recently invited to tour the base. > A four-man civil affairs team led by Capt. Andrew Dacey, a former Army infantry platoon leader in Iraq, has worked closely with civic, religious and educational leaders in Agadez to help address the high unemployment and ill-equipped schools — shortcomings that Islamist extremists can exploit. > The team is helping local schools start a metal and wood craftsman apprenticeship that teaches teenage students new skills and supplies classrooms with refurbished desks. > “The base has been very helpful for our security and our economy,” said Mahaman Ali, an inspector for primary schools in the area, pointing to piles of broken desks that will be repaired. > And yet doubts still linger about the base’s enduring legacy. > “The deployment of armed drones is not going to make a strategic difference,” said E.J. Hogendoorn, the International Crisis Group’s deputy Africa program director in Washington, “and may even increase local hostility to the U.S. and the central government in distant Niamey.” > Continue reading the main story > Photo > > Children attending classes at a makeshift tent school on the outskirts of Agadez. The Air Force donated supplies to the school, and is working on outreach programs within the community. > Credit > Tara Todras-Whitehill for The New York Times > Helene Cooper and Thomas Gibbons-Neff contributed reporting from Washington. > A version of this article appears in print on April 22, 2018, on Page A1 of the New York edition with the headline: Deep in the Desert, a Murky U.S. War Ramps Up. Order Reprints| Today's Paper|Subscribe > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sun Apr 22 22:17:20 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 17:17:20 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: German opposition kept Merkel from joining US, UK, and France in missile strikes on Syria by KPFA 94.1-FM Berkeley In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The US war party is quite worried about the reliability of the Nato ‘allies,' as the US trammels up their Eurasian trade. > On Apr 22, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 3:39 PM > To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org > Subject: German opposition kept Merkel from joining US, UK, and France in missile strikes on Syria by KPFA 94.1-FM Berkeley > > https://soundcloud.com/kpfa-fm-94-1-berkeley/german-opposition-keeps-merkel-from-joining-us-uk-france-in-firing-missiles-at-syria > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Apr 23 15:07:11 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 15:07:11 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Black Agenda Radio - 04.23.18 - Progressive Radio Network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:05 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: Black Agenda Radio - 04.23.18 - Progressive Radio Network Black Agenda Radio - 04.23.18 - Progressive Radio Network Russia says it will soon move its most sophisticated air defense systems to Syria, so that the west will pay a high price if it repeats this months attack on Syrian forces. We spoke with Dr. Francis Boyle, the renowned professor of international law, at the University of Illinois. There is still no evidence that the government of Syria actually carried out any chemical weapons attack on civilians. But, in a sense, that really isn’t the point, is it, Dr. Boyle? http://prn.fm/black-agenda-radio-04-23-18/ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Feed: "Francis Boyle" - BingNews Posted on: Monday, April 23, 2018 8:45 AM Author: "Francis Boyle" - BingNews Subject: Corporate Media “Could Care Less” About International Law University of Illinois professor of international law Dr. Francis Boyle said the illegality of U.S. attacks against Syria and occupation of its territory is a non-issue for U.S. corporate media. “They couldn’t care less,” said Boyle. “They’re all ... View article... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: ATT00001.txt URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Apr 24 02:49:15 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 02:49:15 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?b?RndkOiBbTmV3IHBvc3RdIOKAnENsYXNz4oCd?= =?utf-8?q?_really_does_matter_in_Thai_society?= References: <61854989.2114.0@wordpress.com> Message-ID: New post on Uglytruth-Thailand [http://s0.wp.com/i/emails/blavatar.png] [http://2.gravatar.com/avatar/b94c98491e599510a5ec039e64af3261?s=50&d=identicon&r=G] “Class” really does matter in Thai society by uglytruththailand Giles Ji Ungpakorn In previous blog post I argued that without solving the real contradictions between lives of most Thai citizens whose way of life has developed rapidly over many decades and an unchanged, outdated and conservative “Superstructure”, Thai society cannot escape from a vicious cycle of crisis and coups. I also argued that what is needed is concrete measures to modernise the country and to drastically decrease inequality between the poor majority and the rich elites. Merely ignoring the root causes of the political crisis and hoping to “move on” will do nothing to solve these deep underlying problems. We also need to be clear that these are “class” problems. Those who deny the importance of class in Thai society cannot hope to get to grips with the problems. So what kind of political and social reforms would go some way to solving the crisis? First of all it is necessary to explain that such reforms would be resisted by the conservatives in the ruling class and among the middle classes, much as Taksin’s modernisation programme was resisted. An important issue which needs to be tackled is the gross economic inequality between the life styles of the rich and the middle classes and the rest of the population. To deal with this Thailand needs to build a well-funded welfare state, funded by progressive taxation. This would give most citizens a sense of security and make them feel that they were stakeholders in society. Naturally, higher rates of tax for the rich and large corporations would be vigorously resisted by those who stood to lose. But strong social movements could contain such resistance. According to the book “The Spirit Level”, by Kate Pickett and Richard G. Wilkinson, even the rich would eventually benefit from a more equal society, but in the meantime they would have to bow to public opinion. Apart from constructing a welfare state, workers’ wages need to be raised to a level where they can enjoy a decent life, rather than living from hand to mouth on the inadequate minimum wage, as many are doing today. Strengthening trade union rights would also help to improve living standards and would be a natural part of democratisation. Small farmers need help to manage and own their own land. The infrastructure in Thailand needs large amounts of public investment in order to build safe and efficient public transport, both in the cities, but also between cities and the rural areas. This would lower the appalling rates of road accidents and help reduce global warming. Investment also needs to be made in renewable energy generation, especially solar energy. We should be mindful that the conservative judges opposed the Yingluk governments plan to upgrade the railways. They also helped to pave the way for Prayut’s military coup. Apart from improving the material aspect of people’s lives, the huge inequalities in status between the rich and powerful and most working people have to be significantly reduced through a process of promoting “equal citizenship”. This would involve ended the enforced grovelling to people of higher status, including the royal family. A change in the use of language, especially pronouns, to encourage equality, is also necessary. Part of this process should also involve the removal of uniforms, especially those worn by teachers and civilian civil servants. Local people should also have the right to elect representatives to run schools, hospitals and manage natural resources. Yes, this is a big “wish list” and would take hard struggle by social movements and radical political parties of the left for it to be achieved. But for those who really want to “move on” from the crisis, it is necessary to face up to the long hard tasks of reforming Thai society, rather than just ignoring them and hoping for some kind of abstract solution. uglytruththailand | April 22, 2018 at 5:00 am | Tags: Class, Giles Ji Ungpakorn, inequality, Thai political reforms, Thai politics, Welfare State | Categories: Thai politics | URL: https://wp.me/p4bxj7-y6 Unsubscribe to no longer receive posts from Uglytruth-Thailand. 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URL: From rwhelbig at gmail.com Tue Apr 24 14:48:00 2018 From: rwhelbig at gmail.com (Roger Helbig) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 07:48:00 -0700 Subject: [Peace-discuss] "Thank you International Community for not bombing us as punishment for poisoning our own citizens or gassing peaceful protestors." In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice piece of propaganda - poisoning our own citizens and gassing (presumably with a riot control agent, not with a chemical agent as defined by the OPCW) - we Americans certainly do our best to encourage world outrage against ourselves, isn't that right FAB? You certainly have done your level best to encourage the world's hate of America - PS - where is the link to this piece of trash? 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Apr 24 15:48:29 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:48:29 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] "Thank you International Community for not bombing us as punishment for poisoning our own citizens or gassing peaceful protestors." In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I love what you call “trash” Roger. Our gassing our own people, our poisoning our own people, as this points out, has been going on for years. People in Flint, Michigan haven’t had clean water in years, we have been using tear gas on our own people for years. Shell and Dow chemical have been poisoning our people for years, Monsanto using Round Up has caused cancer, and all manner of problems for the American people. All with little notice. Then there’s Agent Orange used in Vietnam, poisoning not just the Vietnamese, but our own soldiers as well. Thank god the rest of the world hasn’t decided to bomb us as a result of our terrible government. Yet, in spite of all this you choose to attack Prof. Boyle, for his attempts to save lives. Yes, Roger you are clearly part of the problem, but we keep letting you have your say, and now I will post the link so you can attack those on “Redacted Tonight," and Lee Camp, for attempting to use humor to wake up the American people to the crimes committed by our own government. On Apr 24, 2018, at 07:48, Roger Helbig via Peace-discuss > wrote: Nice piece of propaganda - poisoning our own citizens and gassing (presumably with a riot control agent, not with a chemical agent as defined by the OPCW) - we Americans certainly do our best to encourage world outrage against ourselves, isn't that right FAB? You certainly have done your level best to encourage the world's hate of America - PS - where is the link to this piece of trash? 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URL: From davidgreen50 at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 13:35:48 2018 From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:35:48 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Dershowitz blames Palestinians for Holocaust Message-ID: Submitted to the News-Gazette, not yet published:­ The Gies College of Business at UIUC, with the full support and likely the primary instigation of Dean Jeffrey Brown, has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Brown was recently one of 17 faculty signatories to Cary Nelson’s letter in the *Daily Illini*, “We do not need another acrimonious divestment debate (regarding Israel) at UIUC.” This letter, signed by local Zionist luminaries such as May Berenbaum, Richard Herman, Gene Robinson, and Michael LeRoy, called for “nuance and context, providing students the opportunity to learn in detail.” In Dershowitz’s 2004 book *The Case for Israel* he states, regarding the Nazi holocaust: “The Palestinian leadership with the acquiescence of most of the Palestinian Arabs actively supported and assisted the Holocaust and Nazi Germany and bears considerable moral, political, and even legal culpability for the murder of many Jews.” (p. 54) It's hard to imagine a less nuanced and contextualized statement regarding Israel/Palestine. Nevertheless, this is characteristic of Dershowitz’s pronouncements over decades. It’s similarly difficult to imagine a more mendacious, lurid, and racist statement, again typical of Dershowitz’s calumnies against the Palestinians. In his own recent letter to the *DI*, Brown opposes divestment but “welcomes debate” regarding Israel/Palestine. But welcoming Dershowitz hardly seems an appropriate means toward such an end; not that Brown can credibly claim to be more sincere. Brown goes about “engaging” Israeli businesses, while Israel (with Dershowitz’s support) goes about the business of gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, with Brown's "acquiescence" if not worse. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jones Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 8:34 AM Subject: MASSMAIL - Critical Conversation on Native Imagery Charrette [https://illinois.edu/skinDesigner/files/23365/massmail_blocki-book.png] Dear Members of the Campus Community, I am delighted to let you know that Tuesday, May 1, we are holding a charrette to offer our campus and community the opportunity to provide feedback on the findings from our Conversation on Native Imagery. If you aren’t familiar with charrettes, they are meetings in which all stakeholders in a project attempt to resolve conflicts and map solutions. The Critical Conversation on Native Imagery Charrette will be from 3-6pm in the South Lounge of the Illini Union, 1401 W. Green St., Urbana, and is designed to generate insights, concerns and ideas for moving forward. No formal program will be presented and participants can spend as little or as much time as they want to review the ideas that were generated in the Conversation and offer input, comments and questions as we chart a path forward. The Charrette is open to the public, and light refreshments will be served. A video of the speakers from the April 10th Critical Conversation will be shown at 3pm, 4pm, and 5pm. The Chancellor’s Critical Conversations series is designed to explore difficult issues and answer challenging questions together, as a university community. The goal of each event is to challenge beliefs, opinions and viewpoints through careful listening and the thoughtful expression of different voices, perspectives and ideas. I hope you can join us. Best regards, Robert J. Jones Chancellor This mailing approved by: Office of the Chancellor sent to: Everyone Massmail Archive • Massmail powered by Webtools -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Wed Apr 25 14:24:03 2018 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:24:03 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Dershowitz blames Palestinians for Holocaust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7B4F1215-55B2-4276-ACD6-A487610D5B6C@illinois.edu> Excellent letter. The actor Natalie Portman was a research assistant for Dershowitz when she was a student. Her recent comments may indicate a new attitude to his lies and calumnies, and spreading distress at the US-backed crimes of the government of Israel among its American supporters - Jews and others: . —CGE > On Apr 25, 2018, at 8:35 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Submitted to the News-Gazette, not yet published:­ > > The Gies College of Business at UIUC, with the full support and likely the primary instigation of Dean Jeffrey Brown, has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. > Brown was recently one of 17 faculty signatories to Cary Nelson’s letter in the Daily Illini, “We do not need another acrimonious divestment debate (regarding Israel) at UIUC.” This letter, signed by local Zionist luminaries such as May Berenbaum, Richard Herman, Gene Robinson, and Michael LeRoy, called for “nuance and context, providing students the opportunity to learn in detail.” > > In Dershowitz’s 2004 book The Case for Israel he states, regarding the Nazi holocaust: “The Palestinian leadership with the acquiescence of most of the Palestinian Arabs actively supported and assisted the Holocaust and Nazi Germany and bears considerable moral, political, and even legal culpability for the murder of many Jews.” (p. 54) > > It's hard to imagine a less nuanced and contextualized statement regarding Israel/Palestine. Nevertheless, this is characteristic of Dershowitz’s pronouncements over decades. It’s similarly difficult to imagine a more mendacious, lurid, and racist statement, again typical of Dershowitz’s calumnies against the Palestinians. > > In his own recent letter to the DI, Brown opposes divestment but “welcomes debate” regarding Israel/Palestine. But welcoming Dershowitz hardly seems an appropriate means toward such an end; not that Brown can credibly claim to be more sincere. Brown goes about “engaging” Israeli businesses, while Israel (with Dershowitz’s support) goes about the business of gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, with Brown's "acquiescence" if not worse. > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Apr 25 14:27:54 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 14:27:54 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. Message-ID: Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 25 14:56:27 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 14:56:27 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?FW=3A_Germany=E2=80=99s_Refusal_to_Join?= =?utf-8?q?_the_Latest_US-Led_Missile_Strikes_on_Syria?= Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:56 AM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: FW: Germany’s Refusal to Join the Latest US-Led Missile Strikes on Syria Veteran European political reporter Diana Johnstone, in personal correspondence, said that many Germans already agreed with Boyle and Husseini’s statement, but that it may have helped their credibility to cite an American. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) Feed: "Francis Boyle" - BingNews Posted on: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:15 PM Author: "Francis Boyle" - BingNews Subject: Germany’s Refusal to Join the Latest US-Led Missile Strikes on Syria Widespread German skepticism about chemical attacks University of Illinois Law Professor Francis Boyle said that he and Sam Husseini put out a press release that received more coverage in the German press than any of their statements have ever received ... View article... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Wed Apr 25 16:09:01 2018 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 11:09:01 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Germany's Refusal to Join the Latest US-Led Missile Strikes on Syria Message-ID: <00cb01d3dcaf$b9b8f450$2d2adcf0$@comcast.net> _____ Germany's Refusal to Join the Latest US-Led Missile Strikes on Syria Ann Garrison, BAR contributor 25 Apr 2018 Germany's Refusal to Join the Latest US-Led Missile Strikes on Syria Germany's Refusal to Join the Latest US-Led Missile Strikes on Syria "The major left party concluded that the US-led missile strikes violated international law." Germany did not join the US, UK, and France in the latest missile strikes in Syria despite President Trump's invitation. The next day Germany's Die Linke , aka the Left Party, released an unequivocal statement opposing the strikes: "The US military escalation must be stopped immediately. Last night's US missile attack, which violated international law, puts Syria further away from a peaceful solution and has given the Islamic State cause for celebration. "Instead of reflexively getting behind Trump, the German government should do everything in its power to stabilize relations between Russia and the US. The current situation is extremely dangerous and could get out of control at any time." Die Linke also requested the opinion of the German Parliament's legal experts, who concluded that the US-led missile strikes violated international law. The World Socialist Website , however, says that Die Linke is just posing as antiwar "to capture the growing anti-war sentiment of broad sections of the population and prevent a powerful anti-war movement from developing." "The Greens also denounced the US-led missile strikes." The Die Linke logo is its name with a red flag dotting the "i' in "Linke." Identifying as Democratic Socialist, it allies with the European Left Party in Europe and the European United Left-Nordic Green Left in the European Parliament. In 2013, it won 8.6% of the vote and 64 of 630 seats in parliament and became the leading party of the opposition. In 2016, it increased its percentage of the vote to 9.2% and its parliamentary seats to 69, but the Alternative for Germany (AfD) surged to became the new leader of the opposition with 12.6% of the vote and 94 seats. Alternative for Germany is commonly described as right-wing populist, best known for its anti-immigrant and Islamophobic stance. Its leaders bemoan the open door policy, which has brought more than half a million Syrian refugees to Germany, and accuse the government-now a fragile Christian Democrat/Social Democrat alliance-of extending them generous welfare benefits at the expense of impoverished Germans. Anton Friesen, one of AfD's parliamentarians and a member of the parliamentary foreign affairs committee, told Sputnik News that Alternative for Germany opposed the US-led missile strikes and supported Syrian sovereignty: "Unlike in Afghanistan, Germany in Syria is not following the United States. That is, undoubtedly, a positive fact. But the refusal to follow still does not mean that Germany has its own position aimed at pursuing its national interests. From AfD's point of view, Germany must hold talks with the legitimate Syrian government as well as support international formats. One can find settlement of the Syrian issue only through such measures." Together, Die Linke and the Alternative for Germany represent 21.8% of the vote and 161 of 690 seats. Not a majority, but a significant minority. The German Greens won 8.6% of the vote and 67 seats in 2017, but if they took a position on the latest US-led missile strikes, it wasn't reported and there's no sight of one on their website. The website confirms many reports that the German Greens have become exceedingly bland and far more conservative than their founders. Their spare statement on foreign policy calls for reform of the UN Security Council to eliminate the veto power of the five permanent members, and says that they endorse the "responsibility to protect" doctrine, which is used to argue for humanitarian "intervention." Widespread German skepticism about chemical attacks University of Illinois Law Professor Francis Boyle said that he and Sam Husseini put out a press release that received more coverage in the German press than any of their statements have ever received here in the US: "Sam Husseini and I put out an Institute for Public Accuracy press release saying that the US-led missile strikes would be an act of aggression violating international law codified in the UN Charter. And it turned out that a translation of our press release was all over the mainstream media in Germany; you could find it by searching the Web in German. Chancellor Merkel wanted to get involved in a military strike, but apparently there was so much opposition that she couldn't. "In the end, Merkel said that she supported the missile strikes, but Trump had asked Germany to join in militarily. She's got a very shaky coalition government over there, and she had to abstain. Her government would not go along with it." "Merkel wanted to get involved in a military strike, but apparently there was so much opposition that she couldn't." Veteran European political reporter Diana Johnstone, in personal correspondence, said that many Germans already agreed with Boyle and Husseini's statement, but that it may have helped their credibility to cite an American. "In Germany there are reports on the ground from Karin Leukefeld, the German equivalent of Eva Bartlett and Vanessa Beeley. But disbelief of official statements about Syria is much more widespread in Germany than in France, much less Britain." Germany's largest public TV news broadcaster had a senior correspondent, Uli Glak, on the ground in Syria, where he reported, "The Douma chemical attack was most likely staged; a great many people here seem very convinced." Ursula von der Leyen, another #MeTooforWar woman Diana Johnstone also said that German defense minister Ursula von der Leyen shared Angela Merkel's disappointment: "Ursula von der Leyen (another #MeTooforWar woman) wanted to take part in the attack on Syria as a way to promote Germany's demand for a UN Security Council seat. She boasted that Germany could have done as well as Britain. These ambitious women always excel in reciting their lesson. Von der Leyen called for a common EU foreign policy, with majority decision-making. In Germany as elsewhere, the worst people rise to the top." Ann Garrison is an independent journalist living in the San Francisco Bay Area. In 2014, she received the Victoire Ingabire Umuhoza Democracy and Peace Prize for her reporting on conflict in the African Great Lakes Region. She can be reached at @ AnnGarrison or ann at kpfa.org . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Since April 18, when the government proposed social security reforms, violent protests have taken place across Nicaragua. | Photo: Reuters Published 21 April 2018 teleSURNewsletter Events in Nicaragua over the past week are clearly modeled on the kind of U.S.-led, NATO-driven regime change that succeeded in Libya, Ivory Coast and Ukraine, but has so far failed in Thailand, Syria and Venezuela. At a national level, the protests have been led by the private sector business classes defending their rate of profit against socialist policies in defense of low-income workers and people on pensions. The Events So Far Since April 18, violent protests have taken place across Nicaragua. The protests began a couple of days after the government announced proposed reforms to the social security system, which is running a deficit of around US$75 million a year. The government announced the proposed reforms following the suspension of talks by Nicaragua's private sector business organization, Cosep. Pending possible modifications, the reforms are due to come into effect on July 1. In the protests, as of Friday, 10 people have been killed and over 80 people injured, including at least 30 police officers. Most fatalities resulted from lethal use of firearms by right-wing provocateurs. Mainstream Western media reports cover up the fact that - far from being peaceful - the protests have been characterized by lethal violence from extreme right-wing shock groups trying to destabilize Nicaragua, just as they have done in Venezuela. In response, workers and students supporting Nicaragua's Sandinista government have mobilized against the violent opposition provocations. The protests started in earnest in Nicaragua's capital, Managua, on April 18 and rapidly spread to important provincial centers such as Leon in the west, Granada to the south and Esteli to the north. The protests were fueled by inflammatory messaging on social networks and deliberate manipulation by right-wing media. Some right-wing TV cable media went off the air - their signal apparently having been deliberately taken down - without any clear, independently verifiable explanation. Apart from the deaths and injuries caused by the violent opposition protests, widespread damage was caused to infrastructure, including local Social Security Institute offices; municipal authority offices in Esteli and Granada; university buildings in Managua and Leon; Sandinista party offices in Chinandega and Masaya, and government offices in Managua. There, too, opposition gangs tried to enter and destroy the brand new 'Denis Martinez' baseball stadium; the brand new Fernando Velez Paiz Hospital, and the Institute of Social Security head office. The gangs also attacked most of the Sandinista-aligned radio stations, including Nuevo Radio Ya and Radio Sandino, trying to set them on fire. A group of more than 100 protesting students retreated from the main university area in Managua and took refuge in the city's Catholic cathedral. The police contained them there until their peaceful departure was negotiated. Further afield in Nueva Guinea, towards Nicaragua's Caribbean Coast, an opposition gang attacked a cultural event held in support of the government, wounding various government supporters. In many places, gangs of opportunist delinquents have intermingled with the political protests, which have also involved attacks on commercial business premises and vehicles, as well as bystanders not involved in the protests. While the private business sector organization Cosep has called for peaceful demonstrations, extremists from the right-wing Citizens for Liberty and Sandinista Renewal Movement political organizations have led the violent protests. They have made effective use of social networks, spreading false information and inflammatory accusations so as to confuse and mislead people - especially young people - who know little or nothing about the Social Security reforms, which have turned into a mere pretext for violent protests aimed at destabilizing a government which enjoys overwhelming electoral support. Both evangelical religious authorities and the Catholic church hierarchy have urged calm and called for dialogue. Cosep has insisted that people protest peacefully and called to reopen talks on social security reform with the government. The army and police completely support the government, and the police have acted with restraint in the face of lethal provocation. Trade unions and the main student organization have condemned the violence and expressed support for the government's proposed social security reforms. The Union of Older Adults, which lobbies for better pension rights and health benefits for older people, also supports the proposals, which include a five percent deduction from older people's pensions in exchange for full rights to the same healthcare as active workers. Context: Nicaragua's Social Security Sytem After Nicaragua's right-wing parties won the national elections 1990, the three subsequent right-wing governments mismanaged the Social Security Institute (INSS), cutting back coverage and reducing benefits. During the same period, millions of dollars of INSS funds were misappropriated to fund private sector businesses and make illicit payments to individuals. When a new Sandinista government took office under President Daniel Ortega in January 2007, the social security fund had an unsustainable deficit and a much-reduced contributions base. Since then, the INSS has increased the number of people covered by social security and also extended the benefits the system provides. These now include hemodialisis, oncology therapies, spinal surgery, ophthalmology, neurosurgery, hip and knee replacements, kidney transplants and other very expensive, specialized procedures. Despite having greatly increased the number of people contributing to the system, the INSS is still running a deficit of around US$75 million. The dispute between the government and the private business sector is over how to fund that deficit. The private business sector wants to reduce costs by applying the following neoliberal plan: * Raising the retirement age from 60 to 65 * Eliminating the reduced pension paid to retired people who were unable to complete the 750 weekly contributions required to receive a full pension * Eliminating the minimum pension that ensures no one has a pension lower than the minimum wage for industrial workers * Eliminating the annual Christmas bonus equivalent to one month's pension * No longer maintaining the value of the pension against the national currency to compensate for the annual sliding devaluation of five percent applied by the Central Bank * Doubling the number of weekly contributions qualifying for a pension from 750 to 1500 * Privatizing the INSS medical clinics The government wants to protect the social security health system and increase social security coverage and benefits as a collective public good by: * Gradually increasing the employer's contribution by 3.25 percent * Increasing the employee's contribution by 0.75 percent * Increasing the government's contribution for public sector workers by 1.25 percent * Removing the salary ceiling so that people earning high salaries pay social security contributions proportionate to their income * Deducting 5 percent from retirees' pensions so they receive the same healthcare benefits as active workers (which they currently do not) * Maintaining the number of weekly contributions to qualify for a full pension at 750 * Maintaining the reduced pension and the minimum pension * Maintaining the Christmas bonus * Maintaining pensions' value against the annual 5 percent devaluation * Keeping all INSS clinics in the public system Latest Developments President Daniel Ortega has confirmed the government will continue discussions with Cosep, the organization representing Nicaragua's private sector business, as well as the other organizations taking part in the talks about how to defend the sustainability of the INSS. Disturbances continue in various parts of Nicaragua, with more deaths and injuries being reported. Church representatives, business leaders and political figures are calling for an end to the violence. For the right-wing political groups provoking the violence, the INSS reform is simply the opportunistic pretext of the moment, but it is unclear whether they aim to cause longer-term destabilization. The pattern so far is similar to events in Libya, Ivory Coast, Syria, Ukraine, Thailand and Venezuela. In these countries, extreme right-wing political minorities conspired with foreign elites - mainly in the United States and Europe - to overthrow the national status quo and take power. In Nicaragua, the small, minority right-wing political opposition have openly sought financial and political support in the United States and Europe explicitly to undermine and destabilize Nicaragua's Sandinista government. The obvious model they are working from is Venezuela. The next couple of weeks will tell if Nicaragua is going to suffer yet another U.S. intervention with all that implies for the country's people and the region. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 35090 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 478 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 25 18:34:38 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:34:38 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey! Hey! Dershowitz Say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:28 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Wed Apr 25 18:44:32 2018 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 13:44:32 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The Empire Turns Its Sights on Nicaragua - Again! Message-ID: <015601d3dcc5$735821a0$5a0864e0$@comcast.net> the NICA Act was getting no apparent movement in the US Senate and appeared to be a dead letter. And so, right on cue, we witness violent protests in Nicaragua which closely resemble the violent guarimbas which have plagued Venezuela on and off since Nicolas Maduro was elected in 2013. These demonstrations will surely be used as a pretext to revive the NICA Act in the US Senate. April 25, 2018 The Empire Turns Its Sights on Nicaragua - Again! by Dan Kovalik Facebook Twitter Google+ Reddit Email https://uziiw38pmyg1ai60732c4011-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/dropzone /2017/09/atoa-print-icon.png https://uziiw38pmyg1ai60732c4011-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/dropzone /2018/04/Screen-Shot-2018-04-24-at-6.50.22-PM.png Photo by Jakob Christensen | CC BY 2.0 It was only a matter of time before the US government and its compliant media would once again put Nicaragua in their sights. And, that time has indeed come. Last year, the US House of Representatives voted unanimously in favor of the Nicaraguan Investment Conditionality Act of 2017 (NICA Act) which would cut that already-poor country off from loans offered by international financial institutions. Citing the Alliance for Global Justice, Telesur reported at the time that "'[t]he Nicaraguan government uses foreign assistance from the international financial institutions to support social spending on health and education which have become an ever larger proportion of the national budget.'" Telesur explained that the NICA Act therefore "poses a serious danger to the Central American nation's economy and could result in a humanitarian crisis and waves of economic refugees that would flee toward the U.S. border, joining waves of migrants from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador." Currently, Nicaragua is the only country victimized by the US-backed Central American Wars which is not also a source of immigrants to the US. This is in no small part due to the Sandinistas' effective social programs. As for the Sandinistas' social programs, even the New York Times acknowledged that "[m]any poor people who receive housing and other government benefits support" Sandinista President, Daniel Ortega. Incredibly, as the US is preparing to build a wall ostensibly to keep out Central American and Mexican migrants, it is poised to exacerbate the very migration problem it claims to want to stop. This simply defies all logic and notions of morality and decency. As Noam Chomsky has opined numerous times, the US shall never forgive the Nicaraguan people for overthrowing the US-backed Somoza dictatorship in 1979, for militarily defeating the Contras and for then voting back in the Sandinistas in 2007. The NICA Act is pay-back for such crimes. But meanwhile, the NICA Act was getting no apparent movement in the US Senate and appeared to be a dead letter. And so, right on cue, we witness violent protests in Nicaragua which closely resemble the violent guarimbas which have plagued Venezuela on and off since Nicolas Maduro was elected in 2013. These demonstrations will surely be used as a pretext to revive the NICA Act in the US Senate. There are a number of curious things about the protests in Nicaragua. First, while the mainstream press has explained these protests as a response to a "social security overhaul" announced by the government, it was largely students and other youth who have been demonstrating, and not those directly affected by the announced cuts. And, though the government reversed itself on the previously-announced social security cuts in response to the protests, the New York Times stated with glee that this probably would not stop the protests from continuing. Moreover, it must be pointed out that the proposed social security cuts which provided the impetus for the protests were themselves necessitated in no small part by the House passage of the NICA Act which, as Telesur noted, "has already put a chill on foreign direct investment into the Nicaraguan economy, having a knock-on effect on local lending activity and private investments." Of course, this is all according to plan. Several alternative Spanish-speaking news outlets, including the on-line publication Mision Verdad, have detailed a number of ways in which the violent demonstrations in Nicaragua look like those organized by the right-wing in Venezuela. These include (1) the demonstrators' use of "artisanal weapons," such as mortars and rockets, designed to obscure "the line between peaceful protest and the tactics of subversion and urban warfare," and thus to provoke a government response which could be labeled "a violation of human rights"; (2) attempts to falsely blame the government for chemical weapons use (a tried and true way to provoke foreign intervention); (3) the inflation of the number of those killed in clashes, combined with the downplaying of the deaths of state security forces; (4) looting of private and public property, including memorials to left-wing revolutionary leaders such as Hugo Chavez; (5) the use of snipers; and (6) the support of the Catholic Church and various NGOs for the anti-government activities. Not surprisingly, the Cold War-era National Endowment for Democracy (NED) has recently been giving substantial funding to groups in Nicaragua seemingly to stoke the very types of anti-government actions taking place right now. For example, the NED, in 2017, gave $72,440 to the Comision Permanente de Derechos Humanos de Nicaragua (CPDHN) for "human rights" monitoring. Curiously, the CPDHN is a key source the Western press has been relying upon for the lop-sided information about the current protests and the government's response to them. The NED has also been giving substantial monies to youth and student groups in Nicaragua - such groups now serving as the main source of the current unrest. In addition, the NED has given support to "independent" (i.e., anti-government) media outlets and to other civil society groups for the purpose of "raising awareness" about how the Nicaraguan government is allegedly repressing them. All told, the NED last year alone gave well over a $1 million in aid to civil society groups for the purpose of ginning up social strife in Nicaragua. During the 1980s, Nicaragua - a tiny country which remains the second poorest in the Hemisphere - inspired many of us, myself included, with its heroic resistance to violent US aggression. Nicaragua has remained a symbol of opposition to US imperialism, and that has galled the powers-that-be in this country - particularly Neo-Cons such as current National Security Adviser John Bolton. We must stand with Nicaragua now, as many of us did before, in opposing continued US hostilities in the form of the NICA Act and interference in Nicaragua's internal affairs. Nicaragua deserves such solidarity. Join the debate on Facebook More articles by: Dan Kovalik Daniel Kovalik lives in Pittsburgh and teaches International Human Rights Law at the University of Pittsburgh School of Law. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 256 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 83850 bytes Desc: not available URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Apr 25 18:54:19 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:54:19 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Getting good feedback Sent on my Virgin Mobile Phone. ------ Original message------ From: Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 1:35 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. Hey! Hey! Dershowitz Say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:28 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 19:08:55 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 14:08:55 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <208547E2-80CE-4E78-8866-CABCEED2363E@gmail.com> [Alan Dershowitz is reprehensible, on Israel and even on torture, as his debates with his childhood friend Noam Chomsky show - but no one can be wrong all the time, as the account in today’s News-Gazette shows. I think those who say he should be ‘de-platformed’ at UIUC are making a mistake. If you don’t believe in free speech for people you despise - and Dershowitz is despicable - you don’t believe in it at all. The following is from the C-U News-Gazette, 25 April 2018.] Dershowitz ... has criticized Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election. Dershowitz says he isn't defending Trump but thinks special prosecutors are "dangerous to democratic values." He has criticized the use of criminal investigations as political weapons, including the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server. "It's a problem I've had for years. I wrote a whole book about it when Bill Clinton was subject to the special-prosecutor law. I have said nothing different now. It's just that people don't like when I say it when it helps Donald Trump," he said. "I think we should figure out a system to eliminate the need for a special counsel," he said. "Their goal is to get somebody or a group that has a target on its back. If you don't get them, you've failed in your job." ....Dershowitz said he's given Trump four pieces of advice: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify." [All four are wrong: [1] Mueller’s ‘probe’ is an attempt to reassert the neocon anti-Russian policy of the Obama-Clinton administration, which Trump properly attacked in the campaign; Mueller should be fired. [2] Pardons should extend to the other victims of the neocon-neolib Bush-Obama administrations, such as Leonard Peltier; if some reprobates go free, so be it: none of the torturers of the Bush-Obama era have been imprisoned. [3] Trump’s tweets produce the important popular political discussions that Obama’s mendacities occluded. [4] Trump surely should testify, as he apparently wants to; the corporate media analysis of his character takes the place of an account of his actions.] Dershowitz has argued that there is no federal statute against "collusion" and doesn't believe it's a crime, though other lawyers say it would violate campaign-finance laws. "At the moment, I haven't seen any evidence of any criminal activity or an impeachable offense. That doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him," said Dershowitz, who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016... Dershowitz said the bigger danger for Trump lies in the investigation by the U.S. attorney's office in New York focusing on his business dealings and relationships with women before he became president. "He doesn't have any constitutional defense for what he did before he became president," Dershowitz said. He criticized investigators for the way they handled the raid of Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen — subpoenaing email records without any opportunity for challenge by Cohen, and trying to create an FBI "taint team" to remove any records covered by attorney-client privilege before turning them over to investigators. "That doesn't protect the privilege," he said. "A judge or judicial officer should be doing the review." U.S. District Court Judge Kimba Wood — one of Dershowitz's former students — signaled that she may appoint an outside attorney for that review but has yet to make a final decision. "I think they ought to reserve searching lawyers' offices to the most serious crimes, not for technical violations of the law," Dershowitz said. "The reason they raided his office was, one, to get him to flip against President Trump, if he has anything to flip about; and, second, to see if they could find material on President Trump. He's a means toward an end." ...He disagrees with the president on many fronts — he's against the travel ban, the death penalty and some of the Trump's racially charged language, including a recent reference to immigrant "breeding," reminiscent of Nazi propaganda about Jews during the Holocaust. Those statements "have the effect of at least encouraging racist expression in this country. I think he ought to be more careful about the language he uses as president," Dershowitz said... Dershowitz, a strong supporter of Israel, has clashed with administrators at the University of California Berkeley and elsewhere over restrictions on outside speakers. He said universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech. "I'm a liberal Democrat, but I have views somewhat different from the radical left. And the radical left is determined to try to shut me down," he said. "I'm a much worse enemy to the radical left than the right-wing conservatives. They can laugh at them. They're extreme. I present an alternative liberal model that will attract lots of students away from the radicals." —CGE > On Apr 25, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Hey! Hey! > Dershowitz Say! > How many kids! > Did you kill today! > > Fab > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:28 AM > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. > > > The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. > Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. > See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From cgestabrook at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 19:13:35 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 14:13:35 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: [Alan Dershowitz is reprehensible, on Israel and even on torture, as his debates with his childhood friend Noam Chomsky show - but no one can be wrong all the time, as the account in today’s News-Gazette shows. I think those who say he should be ‘de-platformed’ at UIUC are making a mistake. If you don’t believe in free speech for people you despise - and Dershowitz is despicable - you don’t believe in it at all. The following is from the C-U News-Gazette, 25 April 2018.] Dershowitz ... has criticized Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election. Dershowitz says he isn't defending Trump but thinks special prosecutors are "dangerous to democratic values." He has criticized the use of criminal investigations as political weapons, including the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server. "It's a problem I've had for years. I wrote a whole book about it when Bill Clinton was subject to the special-prosecutor law. I have said nothing different now. It's just that people don't like when I say it when it helps Donald Trump," he said. "I think we should figure out a system to eliminate the need for a special counsel," he said. "Their goal is to get somebody or a group that has a target on its back. If you don't get them, you've failed in your job." ....Dershowitz said he's given Trump four pieces of advice: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify." [All four are wrong: [1] Mueller’s ‘probe’ is an attempt to reassert the neocon anti-Russian policy of the Obama-Clinton administration, which Trump properly attacked in the campaign; Mueller should be fired. [2] Pardons should extend to the other victims of the neocon-neolib Bush-Obama administrations, such as Leonard Peltier; if some reprobates go free, so be it: none of the torturers of the Bush-Obama era have been imprisoned. [3] Trump’s tweets produce the important popular political discussions that Obama’s mendacities occluded. [4] Trump surely should testify, as he apparently wants to; the corporate media analysis of his character takes the place of an account of his actions.] Dershowitz has argued that there is no federal statute against "collusion" and doesn't believe it's a crime, though other lawyers say it would violate campaign-finance laws. "At the moment, I haven't seen any evidence of any criminal activity or an impeachable offense. That doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him," said Dershowitz, who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016... Dershowitz said the bigger danger for Trump lies in the investigation by the U.S. attorney's office in New York focusing on his business dealings and relationships with women before he became president. "He doesn't have any constitutional defense for what he did before he became president," Dershowitz said. He criticized investigators for the way they handled the raid of Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen — subpoenaing email records without any opportunity for challenge by Cohen, and trying to create an FBI "taint team" to remove any records covered by attorney-client privilege before turning them over to investigators. "That doesn't protect the privilege," he said. "A judge or judicial officer should be doing the review." U.S. District Court Judge Kimba Wood — one of Dershowitz's former students — signaled that she may appoint an outside attorney for that review but has yet to make a final decision. "I think they ought to reserve searching lawyers' offices to the most serious crimes, not for technical violations of the law," Dershowitz said. "The reason they raided his office was, one, to get him to flip against President Trump, if he has anything to flip about; and, second, to see if they could find material on President Trump. He's a means toward an end." ...He disagrees with the president on many fronts — he's against the travel ban, the death penalty and some of the Trump's racially charged language, including a recent reference to immigrant "breeding," reminiscent of Nazi propaganda about Jews during the Holocaust. Those statements "have the effect of at least encouraging racist expression in this country. I think he ought to be more careful about the language he uses as president," Dershowitz said... Dershowitz, a strong supporter of Israel, has clashed with administrators at the University of California Berkeley and elsewhere over restrictions on outside speakers. He said universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech. "I'm a liberal Democrat, but I have views somewhat different from the radical left. And the radical left is determined to try to shut me down," he said. "I'm a much worse enemy to the radical left than the right-wing conservatives. They can laugh at them. They're extreme. I present an alternative liberal model that will attract lots of students away from the radicals." —CGE > On Apr 25, 2018, at 1:54 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Getting good feedback > > Sent on my Virgin Mobile Phone. > > ------ Original message------ > From: Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 1:35 PM > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > Hey! Hey! > Dershowitz Say! > How many kids! > Did you kill today! > > Fab > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:28 AM > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. > > > The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. > Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. > See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Apr 25 19:18:50 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 19:18:50 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. In-Reply-To: <208547E2-80CE-4E78-8866-CABCEED2363E@gmail.com> References: , <208547E2-80CE-4E78-8866-CABCEED2363E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Who is saying he should be deplatformed? Sent on my Virgin Mobile Phone. ------ Original message------ From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 2:09 PM To: Francis A Boyle; Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. [Alan Dershowitz is reprehensible, on Israel and even on torture, as his debates with his childhood friend Noam Chomsky show - but no one can be wrong all the time, as the account in today’s News-Gazette shows. I think those who say he should be ‘de-platformed’ at UIUC are making a mistake. If you don’t believe in free speech for people you despise - and Dershowitz is despicable - you don’t believe in it at all. The following is from the C-U News-Gazette, 25 April 2018.] Dershowitz ... has criticized Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election. Dershowitz says he isn't defending Trump but thinks special prosecutors are "dangerous to democratic values." He has criticized the use of criminal investigations as political weapons, including the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server. "It's a problem I've had for years. I wrote a whole book about it when Bill Clinton was subject to the special-prosecutor law. I have said nothing different now. It's just that people don't like when I say it when it helps Donald Trump," he said. "I think we should figure out a system to eliminate the need for a special counsel," he said. "Their goal is to get somebody or a group that has a target on its back. If you don't get them, you've failed in your job." ....Dershowitz said he's given Trump four pieces of advice: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify." [All four are wrong: [1] Mueller’s ‘probe’ is an attempt to reassert the neocon anti-Russian policy of the Obama-Clinton administration, which Trump properly attacked in the campaign; Mueller should be fired. [2] Pardons should extend to the other victims of the neocon-neolib Bush-Obama administrations, such as Leonard Peltier; if some reprobates go free, so be it: none of the torturers of the Bush-Obama era have been imprisoned. [3] Trump’s tweets produce the important popular political discussions that Obama’s mendacities occluded. [4] Trump surely should testify, as he apparently wants to; the corporate media analysis of his character takes the place of an account of his actions.] Dershowitz has argued that there is no federal statute against "collusion" and doesn't believe it's a crime, though other lawyers say it would violate campaign-finance laws. "At the moment, I haven't seen any evidence of any criminal activity or an impeachable offense. That doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him," said Dershowitz, who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016... Dershowitz said the bigger danger for Trump lies in the investigation by the U.S. attorney's office in New York focusing on his business dealings and relationships with women before he became president. "He doesn't have any constitutional defense for what he did before he became president," Dershowitz said. He criticized investigators for the way they handled the raid of Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen — subpoenaing email records without any opportunity for challenge by Cohen, and trying to create an FBI "taint team" to remove any records covered by attorney-client privilege before turning them over to investigators. "That doesn't protect the privilege," he said. "A judge or judicial officer should be doing the review." U.S. District Court Judge Kimba Wood — one of Dershowitz's former students — signaled that she may appoint an outside attorney for that review but has yet to make a final decision. "I think they ought to reserve searching lawyers' offices to the most serious crimes, not for technical violations of the law," Dershowitz said. "The reason they raided his office was, one, to get him to flip against President Trump, if he has anything to flip about; and, second, to see if they could find material on President Trump. He's a means toward an end." ...He disagrees with the president on many fronts — he's against the travel ban, the death penalty and some of the Trump's racially charged language, including a recent reference to immigrant "breeding," reminiscent of Nazi propaganda about Jews during the Holocaust. Those statements "have the effect of at least encouraging racist expression in this country. I think he ought to be more careful about the language he uses as president," Dershowitz said... Dershowitz, a strong supporter of Israel, has clashed with administrators at the University of California Berkeley and elsewhere over restrictions on outside speakers. He said universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech. "I'm a liberal Democrat, but I have views somewhat different from the radical left. And the radical left is determined to try to shut me down," he said. "I'm a much worse enemy to the radical left than the right-wing conservatives. They can laugh at them. They're extreme. I present an alternative liberal model that will attract lots of students away from the radicals." —CGE > On Apr 25, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Hey! Hey! > Dershowitz Say! > How many kids! > Did you kill today! > > Fab > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:28 AM > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. > > > The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. > Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. > See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 19:39:04 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 14:39:04 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. In-Reply-To: References: <208547E2-80CE-4E78-8866-CABCEED2363E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1F5F1680-2D5E-410A-A0B6-7E03C339EDBC@gmail.com> Those who object to his presence rather than to what he’s saying. What do you think of what he said to the News-Gazette? > On Apr 25, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Who is saying he should be deplatformed? > > Sent on my Virgin Mobile Phone. > > ------ Original message------ > From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss > Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 2:09 PM > To: Francis A Boyle; > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > [Alan Dershowitz is reprehensible, on Israel and even on torture, as his debates with his childhood friend Noam Chomsky show - but no one can be wrong all the time, as the account in today’s News-Gazette shows. I think those who say he should be ‘de-platformed’ at UIUC are making a mistake. If you don’t believe in free speech for people you despise - and Dershowitz is despicable - you don’t believe in it at all. The following is from the C-U News-Gazette, 25 April 2018.] > > Dershowitz ... has criticized Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election. > > Dershowitz says he isn't defending Trump but thinks special prosecutors are "dangerous to democratic values." He has criticized the use of criminal investigations as political weapons, including the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server. > > "It's a problem I've had for years. I wrote a whole book about it when Bill Clinton was subject to the special-prosecutor law. I have said nothing different now. It's just that people don't like when I say it when it helps Donald Trump," he said. > > "I think we should figure out a system to eliminate the need for a special counsel," he said. "Their goal is to get somebody or a group that has a target on its back. If you don't get them, you've failed in your job." > > ....Dershowitz said he's given Trump four pieces of advice: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify." > > [All four are wrong: [1] Mueller’s ‘probe’ is an attempt to reassert the neocon anti-Russian policy of the Obama-Clinton administration, which Trump properly attacked in the campaign; Mueller should be fired. [2] Pardons should extend to the other victims of the neocon-neolib Bush-Obama administrations, such as Leonard Peltier; if some reprobates go free, so be it: none of the torturers of the Bush-Obama era have been imprisoned. [3] Trump’s tweets produce the important popular political discussions that Obama’s mendacities occluded. [4] Trump surely should testify, as he apparently wants to; the corporate media analysis of his character takes the place of an account of his actions.] > > Dershowitz has argued that there is no federal statute against "collusion" and doesn't believe it's a crime, though other lawyers say it would violate campaign-finance laws. > > "At the moment, I haven't seen any evidence of any criminal activity or an impeachable offense. That doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him," said Dershowitz, who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016... > > Dershowitz said the bigger danger for Trump lies in the investigation by the U.S. attorney's office in New York focusing on his business dealings and relationships with women before he became president. > > "He doesn't have any constitutional defense for what he did before he became president," Dershowitz said. > > He criticized investigators for the way they handled the raid of Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen — subpoenaing email records without any opportunity for challenge by Cohen, and trying to create an FBI "taint team" to remove any records covered by attorney-client privilege before turning them over to investigators. > > "That doesn't protect the privilege," he said. "A judge or judicial officer should be doing the review." > > U.S. District Court Judge Kimba Wood — one of Dershowitz's former students — signaled that she may appoint an outside attorney for that review but has yet to make a final decision. > > "I think they ought to reserve searching lawyers' offices to the most serious crimes, not for technical violations of the law," Dershowitz said. "The reason they raided his office was, one, to get him to flip against President Trump, if he has anything to flip about; and, second, to see if they could find material on President Trump. He's a means toward an end." > > ...He disagrees with the president on many fronts — he's against the travel ban, the death penalty and some of the Trump's racially charged language, including a recent reference to immigrant "breeding," reminiscent of Nazi propaganda about Jews during the Holocaust. Those statements "have the effect of at least encouraging racist expression in this country. I think he ought to be more careful about the language he uses as president," Dershowitz said... > > Dershowitz, a strong supporter of Israel, has clashed with administrators at the University of California Berkeley and elsewhere over restrictions on outside speakers. He said universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech. > > "I'm a liberal Democrat, but I have views somewhat different from the radical left. And the radical left is determined to try to shut me down," he said. "I'm a much worse enemy to the radical left than the right-wing conservatives. They can laugh at them. They're extreme. I present an alternative liberal model that will attract lots of students away from the radicals." > > —CGE > > > On Apr 25, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > > Hey! Hey! > > Dershowitz Say! > > How many kids! > > Did you kill today! > > > > Fab > > > > > > Francis A. Boyle > > Law Building > > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > > 217-333-7954 (phone) > > 217-244-1478 (fax) > > (personal comments only) > > > > From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:28 AM > > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > > > Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. > > > > > > The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. > > Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. > > See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Peace-discuss mailing list > > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 25 21:40:34 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 21:40:34 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. In-Reply-To: <1F5F1680-2D5E-410A-A0B6-7E03C339EDBC@gmail.com> References: <208547E2-80CE-4E78-8866-CABCEED2363E@gmail.com> <1F5F1680-2D5E-410A-A0B6-7E03C339EDBC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sure Carl. Why don’t you invite Dersh to be on your TV Show and put out an Announcement on the date, time and www site for live downstreaming. I can then send it to Chomsky and Finkelstein so they can listen in to Dersh. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 2:39 PM To: Karen Aram Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. Those who object to his presence rather than to what he’s saying. What do you think of what he said to the News-Gazette? > On Apr 25, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Who is saying he should be deplatformed? > > Sent on my Virgin Mobile Phone. > > ------ Original message------ > From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss > Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 2:09 PM > To: Francis A Boyle; > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > [Alan Dershowitz is reprehensible, on Israel and even on torture, as his debates with his childhood friend Noam Chomsky show - but no one can be wrong all the time, as the account in today’s News-Gazette shows. I think those who say he should be ‘de-platformed’ at UIUC are making a mistake. If you don’t believe in free speech for people you despise - and Dershowitz is despicable - you don’t believe in it at all. The following is from the C-U News-Gazette, 25 April 2018.] > > Dershowitz ... has criticized Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election. > > Dershowitz says he isn't defending Trump but thinks special prosecutors are "dangerous to democratic values." He has criticized the use of criminal investigations as political weapons, including the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server. > > "It's a problem I've had for years. I wrote a whole book about it when Bill Clinton was subject to the special-prosecutor law. I have said nothing different now. It's just that people don't like when I say it when it helps Donald Trump," he said. > > "I think we should figure out a system to eliminate the need for a special counsel," he said. "Their goal is to get somebody or a group that has a target on its back. If you don't get them, you've failed in your job." > > ....Dershowitz said he's given Trump four pieces of advice: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify." > > [All four are wrong: [1] Mueller’s ‘probe’ is an attempt to reassert the neocon anti-Russian policy of the Obama-Clinton administration, which Trump properly attacked in the campaign; Mueller should be fired. [2] Pardons should extend to the other victims of the neocon-neolib Bush-Obama administrations, such as Leonard Peltier; if some reprobates go free, so be it: none of the torturers of the Bush-Obama era have been imprisoned. [3] Trump’s tweets produce the important popular political discussions that Obama’s mendacities occluded. [4] Trump surely should testify, as he apparently wants to; the corporate media analysis of his character takes the place of an account of his actions.] > > Dershowitz has argued that there is no federal statute against "collusion" and doesn't believe it's a crime, though other lawyers say it would violate campaign-finance laws. > > "At the moment, I haven't seen any evidence of any criminal activity or an impeachable offense. That doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him," said Dershowitz, who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016... > > Dershowitz said the bigger danger for Trump lies in the investigation by the U.S. attorney's office in New York focusing on his business dealings and relationships with women before he became president. > > "He doesn't have any constitutional defense for what he did before he became president," Dershowitz said. > > He criticized investigators for the way they handled the raid of Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen — subpoenaing email records without any opportunity for challenge by Cohen, and trying to create an FBI "taint team" to remove any records covered by attorney-client privilege before turning them over to investigators. > > "That doesn't protect the privilege," he said. "A judge or judicial officer should be doing the review." > > U.S. District Court Judge Kimba Wood — one of Dershowitz's former students — signaled that she may appoint an outside attorney for that review but has yet to make a final decision. > > "I think they ought to reserve searching lawyers' offices to the most serious crimes, not for technical violations of the law," Dershowitz said. "The reason they raided his office was, one, to get him to flip against President Trump, if he has anything to flip about; and, second, to see if they could find material on President Trump. He's a means toward an end." > > ...He disagrees with the president on many fronts — he's against the travel ban, the death penalty and some of the Trump's racially charged language, including a recent reference to immigrant "breeding," reminiscent of Nazi propaganda about Jews during the Holocaust. Those statements "have the effect of at least encouraging racist expression in this country. I think he ought to be more careful about the language he uses as president," Dershowitz said... > > Dershowitz, a strong supporter of Israel, has clashed with administrators at the University of California Berkeley and elsewhere over restrictions on outside speakers. He said universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech. > > "I'm a liberal Democrat, but I have views somewhat different from the radical left. And the radical left is determined to try to shut me down," he said. "I'm a much worse enemy to the radical left than the right-wing conservatives. They can laugh at them. They're extreme. I present an alternative liberal model that will attract lots of students away from the radicals." > > —CGE > > > On Apr 25, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > > Hey! Hey! > > Dershowitz Say! > > How many kids! > > Did you kill today! > > > > Fab > > > > > > Francis A. Boyle > > Law Building > > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > > 217-333-7954 (phone) > > 217-244-1478 (fax) > > (personal comments only) > > > > From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:28 AM > > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > > > Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. > > > > > > The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. > > Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. > > See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Peace-discuss mailing list > > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 25 21:56:02 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 21:56:02 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. Message-ID: Sure Carl. Why don’t you invite Dersh to be on your TV Show and put out an Announcement on the date, time and www site for live downstreaming. I can then send it to Chomsky and Finkelstein so they can listen in to Dersh. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 2:39 PM To: Karen Aram Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. Those who object to his presence rather than to what he’s saying. What do you think of what he said to the News-Gazette? > On Apr 25, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Who is saying he should be deplatformed? > > Sent on my Virgin Mobile Phone. > > ------ Original message------ > From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss > Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 2:09 PM > To: Francis A Boyle; > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > [Alan Dershowitz is reprehensible, on Israel and even on torture, as his debates with his childhood friend Noam Chomsky show - but no one can be wrong all the time, as the account in today’s News-Gazette shows. I think those who say he should be ‘de-platformed’ at UIUC are making a mistake. If you don’t believe in free speech for people you despise - and Dershowitz is despicable - you don’t believe in it at all. The following is from the C-U News-Gazette, 25 April 2018.] > > Dershowitz ... has criticized Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election. > > Dershowitz says he isn't defending Trump but thinks special prosecutors are "dangerous to democratic values." He has criticized the use of criminal investigations as political weapons, including the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server. > > "It's a problem I've had for years. I wrote a whole book about it when Bill Clinton was subject to the special-prosecutor law. I have said nothing different now. It's just that people don't like when I say it when it helps Donald Trump," he said. > > "I think we should figure out a system to eliminate the need for a special counsel," he said. "Their goal is to get somebody or a group that has a target on its back. If you don't get them, you've failed in your job." > > ....Dershowitz said he's given Trump four pieces of advice: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify." > > [All four are wrong: [1] Mueller’s ‘probe’ is an attempt to reassert the neocon anti-Russian policy of the Obama-Clinton administration, which Trump properly attacked in the campaign; Mueller should be fired. [2] Pardons should extend to the other victims of the neocon-neolib Bush-Obama administrations, such as Leonard Peltier; if some reprobates go free, so be it: none of the torturers of the Bush-Obama era have been imprisoned. [3] Trump’s tweets produce the important popular political discussions that Obama’s mendacities occluded. [4] Trump surely should testify, as he apparently wants to; the corporate media analysis of his character takes the place of an account of his actions.] > > Dershowitz has argued that there is no federal statute against "collusion" and doesn't believe it's a crime, though other lawyers say it would violate campaign-finance laws. > > "At the moment, I haven't seen any evidence of any criminal activity or an impeachable offense. That doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him," said Dershowitz, who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016... > > Dershowitz said the bigger danger for Trump lies in the investigation by the U.S. attorney's office in New York focusing on his business dealings and relationships with women before he became president. > > "He doesn't have any constitutional defense for what he did before he became president," Dershowitz said. > > He criticized investigators for the way they handled the raid of Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen — subpoenaing email records without any opportunity for challenge by Cohen, and trying to create an FBI "taint team" to remove any records covered by attorney-client privilege before turning them over to investigators. > > "That doesn't protect the privilege," he said. "A judge or judicial officer should be doing the review." > > U.S. District Court Judge Kimba Wood — one of Dershowitz's former students — signaled that she may appoint an outside attorney for that review but has yet to make a final decision. > > "I think they ought to reserve searching lawyers' offices to the most serious crimes, not for technical violations of the law," Dershowitz said. "The reason they raided his office was, one, to get him to flip against President Trump, if he has anything to flip about; and, second, to see if they could find material on President Trump. He's a means toward an end." > > ...He disagrees with the president on many fronts — he's against the travel ban, the death penalty and some of the Trump's racially charged language, including a recent reference to immigrant "breeding," reminiscent of Nazi propaganda about Jews during the Holocaust. Those statements "have the effect of at least encouraging racist expression in this country. I think he ought to be more careful about the language he uses as president," Dershowitz said... > > Dershowitz, a strong supporter of Israel, has clashed with administrators at the University of California Berkeley and elsewhere over restrictions on outside speakers. He said universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech. > > "I'm a liberal Democrat, but I have views somewhat different from the radical left. And the radical left is determined to try to shut me down," he said. "I'm a much worse enemy to the radical left than the right-wing conservatives. They can laugh at them. They're extreme. I present an alternative liberal model that will attract lots of students away from the radicals." > > —CGE > > > On Apr 25, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > > Hey! Hey! > > Dershowitz Say! > > How many kids! > > Did you kill today! > > > > Fab > > > > > > Francis A. Boyle > > Law Building > > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > > 217-333-7954 (phone) > > 217-244-1478 (fax) > > (personal comments only) > > > > From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:28 AM > > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > > > Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. > > > > > > The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. > > Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. > > See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Peace-discuss mailing list > > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 25 21:59:58 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 21:59:58 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh and I will send a copy of your Announcement to Trump too. He likes to listen to his Bootlickers like Dersh.fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:56 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. Sure Carl. Why don’t you invite Dersh to be on your TV Show and put out an Announcement on the date, time and www site for live downstreaming. I can then send it to Chomsky and Finkelstein so they can listen in to Dersh. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 2:39 PM To: Karen Aram Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. Those who object to his presence rather than to what he’s saying. What do you think of what he said to the News-Gazette? > On Apr 25, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Who is saying he should be deplatformed? > > Sent on my Virgin Mobile Phone. > > ------ Original message------ > From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss > Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 2:09 PM > To: Francis A Boyle; > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > [Alan Dershowitz is reprehensible, on Israel and even on torture, as his debates with his childhood friend Noam Chomsky show - but no one can be wrong all the time, as the account in today’s News-Gazette shows. I think those who say he should be ‘de-platformed’ at UIUC are making a mistake. If you don’t believe in free speech for people you despise - and Dershowitz is despicable - you don’t believe in it at all. The following is from the C-U News-Gazette, 25 April 2018.] > > Dershowitz ... has criticized Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election. > > Dershowitz says he isn't defending Trump but thinks special prosecutors are "dangerous to democratic values." He has criticized the use of criminal investigations as political weapons, including the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server. > > "It's a problem I've had for years. I wrote a whole book about it when Bill Clinton was subject to the special-prosecutor law. I have said nothing different now. It's just that people don't like when I say it when it helps Donald Trump," he said. > > "I think we should figure out a system to eliminate the need for a special counsel," he said. "Their goal is to get somebody or a group that has a target on its back. If you don't get them, you've failed in your job." > > ....Dershowitz said he's given Trump four pieces of advice: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify." > > [All four are wrong: [1] Mueller’s ‘probe’ is an attempt to reassert the neocon anti-Russian policy of the Obama-Clinton administration, which Trump properly attacked in the campaign; Mueller should be fired. [2] Pardons should extend to the other victims of the neocon-neolib Bush-Obama administrations, such as Leonard Peltier; if some reprobates go free, so be it: none of the torturers of the Bush-Obama era have been imprisoned. [3] Trump’s tweets produce the important popular political discussions that Obama’s mendacities occluded. [4] Trump surely should testify, as he apparently wants to; the corporate media analysis of his character takes the place of an account of his actions.] > > Dershowitz has argued that there is no federal statute against "collusion" and doesn't believe it's a crime, though other lawyers say it would violate campaign-finance laws. > > "At the moment, I haven't seen any evidence of any criminal activity or an impeachable offense. That doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him," said Dershowitz, who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016... > > Dershowitz said the bigger danger for Trump lies in the investigation by the U.S. attorney's office in New York focusing on his business dealings and relationships with women before he became president. > > "He doesn't have any constitutional defense for what he did before he became president," Dershowitz said. > > He criticized investigators for the way they handled the raid of Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen — subpoenaing email records without any opportunity for challenge by Cohen, and trying to create an FBI "taint team" to remove any records covered by attorney-client privilege before turning them over to investigators. > > "That doesn't protect the privilege," he said. "A judge or judicial officer should be doing the review." > > U.S. District Court Judge Kimba Wood — one of Dershowitz's former students — signaled that she may appoint an outside attorney for that review but has yet to make a final decision. > > "I think they ought to reserve searching lawyers' offices to the most serious crimes, not for technical violations of the law," Dershowitz said. "The reason they raided his office was, one, to get him to flip against President Trump, if he has anything to flip about; and, second, to see if they could find material on President Trump. He's a means toward an end." > > ...He disagrees with the president on many fronts — he's against the travel ban, the death penalty and some of the Trump's racially charged language, including a recent reference to immigrant "breeding," reminiscent of Nazi propaganda about Jews during the Holocaust. Those statements "have the effect of at least encouraging racist expression in this country. I think he ought to be more careful about the language he uses as president," Dershowitz said... > > Dershowitz, a strong supporter of Israel, has clashed with administrators at the University of California Berkeley and elsewhere over restrictions on outside speakers. He said universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech. > > "I'm a liberal Democrat, but I have views somewhat different from the radical left. And the radical left is determined to try to shut me down," he said. "I'm a much worse enemy to the radical left than the right-wing conservatives. They can laugh at them. They're extreme. I present an alternative liberal model that will attract lots of students away from the radicals." > > —CGE > > > On Apr 25, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > > Hey! Hey! > > Dershowitz Say! > > How many kids! > > Did you kill today! > > > > Fab > > > > > > Francis A. Boyle > > Law Building > > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > > 217-333-7954 (phone) > > 217-244-1478 (fax) > > (personal comments only) > > > > From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:28 AM > > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > > > Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. > > > > > > The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. > > Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. > > See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Peace-discuss mailing list > > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 25 22:10:19 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 22:10:19 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. References: Message-ID: This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her ConsortCIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. ---------------------------------------------------------------- And way to go C-U Zionists! Bringing Dersh in here to Bootlick, Grandstand for and Defend Trump. The C-U Zionists have now come out of the Trump Closet to reveal themselves as True Trumpsters! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 5:00 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: FW: Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. Oh and I will send a copy of your Announcement to Trump too. He likes to listen to his Bootlickers like Dersh.fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:56 PM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. Sure Carl. Why don’t you invite Dersh to be on your TV Show and put out an Announcement on the date, time and www site for live downstreaming. I can then send it to Chomsky and Finkelstein so they can listen in to Dersh. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 2:39 PM To: Karen Aram Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. Those who object to his presence rather than to what he’s saying. What do you think of what he said to the News-Gazette? > On Apr 25, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Who is saying he should be deplatformed? > > Sent on my Virgin Mobile Phone. > > ------ Original message------ > From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss > Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 2:09 PM > To: Francis A Boyle; > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > [Alan Dershowitz is reprehensible, on Israel and even on torture, as his debates with his childhood friend Noam Chomsky show - but no one can be wrong all the time, as the account in today’s News-Gazette shows. I think those who say he should be ‘de-platformed’ at UIUC are making a mistake. If you don’t believe in free speech for people you despise - and Dershowitz is despicable - you don’t believe in it at all. The following is from the C-U News-Gazette, 25 April 2018.] > > Dershowitz ... has criticized Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election. > > Dershowitz says he isn't defending Trump but thinks special prosecutors are "dangerous to democratic values." He has criticized the use of criminal investigations as political weapons, including the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server. > > "It's a problem I've had for years. I wrote a whole book about it when Bill Clinton was subject to the special-prosecutor law. I have said nothing different now. It's just that people don't like when I say it when it helps Donald Trump," he said. > > "I think we should figure out a system to eliminate the need for a special counsel," he said. "Their goal is to get somebody or a group that has a target on its back. If you don't get them, you've failed in your job." > > ....Dershowitz said he's given Trump four pieces of advice: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify." > > [All four are wrong: [1] Mueller’s ‘probe’ is an attempt to reassert the neocon anti-Russian policy of the Obama-Clinton administration, which Trump properly attacked in the campaign; Mueller should be fired. [2] Pardons should extend to the other victims of the neocon-neolib Bush-Obama administrations, such as Leonard Peltier; if some reprobates go free, so be it: none of the torturers of the Bush-Obama era have been imprisoned. [3] Trump’s tweets produce the important popular political discussions that Obama’s mendacities occluded. [4] Trump surely should testify, as he apparently wants to; the corporate media analysis of his character takes the place of an account of his actions.] > > Dershowitz has argued that there is no federal statute against "collusion" and doesn't believe it's a crime, though other lawyers say it would violate campaign-finance laws. > > "At the moment, I haven't seen any evidence of any criminal activity or an impeachable offense. That doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him," said Dershowitz, who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016... > > Dershowitz said the bigger danger for Trump lies in the investigation by the U.S. attorney's office in New York focusing on his business dealings and relationships with women before he became president. > > "He doesn't have any constitutional defense for what he did before he became president," Dershowitz said. > > He criticized investigators for the way they handled the raid of Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen — subpoenaing email records without any opportunity for challenge by Cohen, and trying to create an FBI "taint team" to remove any records covered by attorney-client privilege before turning them over to investigators. > > "That doesn't protect the privilege," he said. "A judge or judicial officer should be doing the review." > > U.S. District Court Judge Kimba Wood — one of Dershowitz's former students — signaled that she may appoint an outside attorney for that review but has yet to make a final decision. > > "I think they ought to reserve searching lawyers' offices to the most serious crimes, not for technical violations of the law," Dershowitz said. "The reason they raided his office was, one, to get him to flip against President Trump, if he has anything to flip about; and, second, to see if they could find material on President Trump. He's a means toward an end." > > ...He disagrees with the president on many fronts — he's against the travel ban, the death penalty and some of the Trump's racially charged language, including a recent reference to immigrant "breeding," reminiscent of Nazi propaganda about Jews during the Holocaust. Those statements "have the effect of at least encouraging racist expression in this country. I think he ought to be more careful about the language he uses as president," Dershowitz said... > > Dershowitz, a strong supporter of Israel, has clashed with administrators at the University of California Berkeley and elsewhere over restrictions on outside speakers. He said universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech. > > "I'm a liberal Democrat, but I have views somewhat different from the radical left. And the radical left is determined to try to shut me down," he said. "I'm a much worse enemy to the radical left than the right-wing conservatives. They can laugh at them. They're extreme. I present an alternative liberal model that will attract lots of students away from the radicals." > > —CGE > > > On Apr 25, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > > > Hey! Hey! > > Dershowitz Say! > > How many kids! > > Did you kill today! > > > > Fab > > > > > > Francis A. Boyle > > Law Building > > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > > 217-333-7954 (phone) > > 217-244-1478 (fax) > > (personal comments only) > > > > From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:28 AM > > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > > > Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. > > > > > > The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. > > Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. > > See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Peace-discuss mailing list > > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From cgestabrook at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 22:12:29 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 17:12:29 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50142872-7E64-4464-96F9-4BF32B3B46A9@gmail.com> Both Chomsky and Finkelstein have appeared on live television with Dershowitz - even on Democracy Now - and viewers learnt about their important differences with him. They all have open invitations to News from Neptune - as you do. > On Apr 25, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Oh and I will send a copy of your Announcement to Trump too. He likes to listen to his Bootlickers like Dersh.fab > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:56 PM > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > Sure Carl. Why don’t you invite Dersh to be on your TV Show and put out an Announcement on the date, time and www site for live downstreaming. I can then send it to Chomsky and Finkelstein so they can listen in to Dersh. > Fab > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 2:39 PM > To: Karen Aram > Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > Those who object to his presence rather than to what he’s saying. > > What do you think of what he said to the News-Gazette? > >> On Apr 25, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Who is saying he should be deplatformed? >> >> Sent on my Virgin Mobile Phone. >> >> ------ Original message------ >> From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss >> Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 2:09 PM >> To: Francis A Boyle; >> Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); >> Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. >> >> [Alan Dershowitz is reprehensible, on Israel and even on torture, as his debates with his childhood friend Noam Chomsky show - but no one can be wrong all the time, as the account in today’s News-Gazette shows. I think those who say he should be ‘de-platformed’ at UIUC are making a mistake. If you don’t believe in free speech for people you despise - and Dershowitz is despicable - you don’t believe in it at all. The following is from the C-U News-Gazette, 25 April 2018.] >> >> Dershowitz ... has criticized Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election. >> >> Dershowitz says he isn't defending Trump but thinks special prosecutors are "dangerous to democratic values." He has criticized the use of criminal investigations as political weapons, including the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server. >> >> "It's a problem I've had for years. I wrote a whole book about it when Bill Clinton was subject to the special-prosecutor law. I have said nothing different now. It's just that people don't like when I say it when it helps Donald Trump," he said. >> >> "I think we should figure out a system to eliminate the need for a special counsel," he said. "Their goal is to get somebody or a group that has a target on its back. If you don't get them, you've failed in your job." >> >> ....Dershowitz said he's given Trump four pieces of advice: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify." >> >> [All four are wrong: [1] Mueller’s ‘probe’ is an attempt to reassert the neocon anti-Russian policy of the Obama-Clinton administration, which Trump properly attacked in the campaign; Mueller should be fired. [2] Pardons should extend to the other victims of the neocon-neolib Bush-Obama administrations, such as Leonard Peltier; if some reprobates go free, so be it: none of the torturers of the Bush-Obama era have been imprisoned. [3] Trump’s tweets produce the important popular political discussions that Obama’s mendacities occluded. [4] Trump surely should testify, as he apparently wants to; the corporate media analysis of his character takes the place of an account of his actions.] >> >> Dershowitz has argued that there is no federal statute against "collusion" and doesn't believe it's a crime, though other lawyers say it would violate campaign-finance laws. >> >> "At the moment, I haven't seen any evidence of any criminal activity or an impeachable offense. That doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him," said Dershowitz, who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016... >> >> Dershowitz said the bigger danger for Trump lies in the investigation by the U.S. attorney's office in New York focusing on his business dealings and relationships with women before he became president. >> >> "He doesn't have any constitutional defense for what he did before he became president," Dershowitz said. >> >> He criticized investigators for the way they handled the raid of Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen — subpoenaing email records without any opportunity for challenge by Cohen, and trying to create an FBI "taint team" to remove any records covered by attorney-client privilege before turning them over to investigators. >> >> "That doesn't protect the privilege," he said. "A judge or judicial officer should be doing the review." >> >> U.S. District Court Judge Kimba Wood — one of Dershowitz's former students — signaled that she may appoint an outside attorney for that review but has yet to make a final decision. >> >> "I think they ought to reserve searching lawyers' offices to the most serious crimes, not for technical violations of the law," Dershowitz said. "The reason they raided his office was, one, to get him to flip against President Trump, if he has anything to flip about; and, second, to see if they could find material on President Trump. He's a means toward an end." >> >> ...He disagrees with the president on many fronts — he's against the travel ban, the death penalty and some of the Trump's racially charged language, including a recent reference to immigrant "breeding," reminiscent of Nazi propaganda about Jews during the Holocaust. Those statements "have the effect of at least encouraging racist expression in this country. I think he ought to be more careful about the language he uses as president," Dershowitz said... >> >> Dershowitz, a strong supporter of Israel, has clashed with administrators at the University of California Berkeley and elsewhere over restrictions on outside speakers. He said universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech. >> >> "I'm a liberal Democrat, but I have views somewhat different from the radical left. And the radical left is determined to try to shut me down," he said. "I'm a much worse enemy to the radical left than the right-wing conservatives. They can laugh at them. They're extreme. I present an alternative liberal model that will attract lots of students away from the radicals." >> >> —CGE >> >>> On Apr 25, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Hey! Hey! >>> Dershowitz Say! >>> How many kids! >>> Did you kill today! >>> >>> Fab >>> >>> >>> Francis A. Boyle >>> Law Building >>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >>> Champaign, IL 61820 USA >>> 217-333-7954 (phone) >>> 217-244-1478 (fax) >>> (personal comments only) >>> >>> From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:28 AM >>> To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. >>> >>> Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. >>> >>> >>> The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. >>> Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. >>> See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 25 22:15:05 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 22:15:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. In-Reply-To: <50142872-7E64-4464-96F9-4BF32B3B46A9@gmail.com> References: <50142872-7E64-4464-96F9-4BF32B3B46A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: As I said, invite Dersh onto your TV Show and let me know the date, time and live-streaming info. I will be sure to send it along to Trump. He likes to listen to His Bootlickers Like Dersh. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: C G Estabrook Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 5:12 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. Both Chomsky and Finkelstein have appeared on live television with Dershowitz - even on Democracy Now - and viewers learnt about their important differences with him. They all have open invitations to News from Neptune - as you do. > On Apr 25, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Oh and I will send a copy of your Announcement to Trump too. He likes to listen to his Bootlickers like Dersh.fab > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:56 PM > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > Sure Carl. Why don’t you invite Dersh to be on your TV Show and put out an Announcement on the date, time and www site for live downstreaming. I can then send it to Chomsky and Finkelstein so they can listen in to Dersh. > Fab > > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 2:39 PM > To: Karen Aram > Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > Those who object to his presence rather than to what he’s saying. > > What do you think of what he said to the News-Gazette? > >> On Apr 25, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Who is saying he should be deplatformed? >> >> Sent on my Virgin Mobile Phone. >> >> ------ Original message------ >> From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss >> Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 2:09 PM >> To: Francis A Boyle; >> Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); >> Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. >> >> [Alan Dershowitz is reprehensible, on Israel and even on torture, as his debates with his childhood friend Noam Chomsky show - but no one can be wrong all the time, as the account in today’s News-Gazette shows. I think those who say he should be ‘de-platformed’ at UIUC are making a mistake. If you don’t believe in free speech for people you despise - and Dershowitz is despicable - you don’t believe in it at all. The following is from the C-U News-Gazette, 25 April 2018.] >> >> Dershowitz ... has criticized Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election. >> >> Dershowitz says he isn't defending Trump but thinks special prosecutors are "dangerous to democratic values." He has criticized the use of criminal investigations as political weapons, including the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server. >> >> "It's a problem I've had for years. I wrote a whole book about it when Bill Clinton was subject to the special-prosecutor law. I have said nothing different now. It's just that people don't like when I say it when it helps Donald Trump," he said. >> >> "I think we should figure out a system to eliminate the need for a special counsel," he said. "Their goal is to get somebody or a group that has a target on its back. If you don't get them, you've failed in your job." >> >> ....Dershowitz said he's given Trump four pieces of advice: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify." >> >> [All four are wrong: [1] Mueller’s ‘probe’ is an attempt to reassert the neocon anti-Russian policy of the Obama-Clinton administration, which Trump properly attacked in the campaign; Mueller should be fired. [2] Pardons should extend to the other victims of the neocon-neolib Bush-Obama administrations, such as Leonard Peltier; if some reprobates go free, so be it: none of the torturers of the Bush-Obama era have been imprisoned. [3] Trump’s tweets produce the important popular political discussions that Obama’s mendacities occluded. [4] Trump surely should testify, as he apparently wants to; the corporate media analysis of his character takes the place of an account of his actions.] >> >> Dershowitz has argued that there is no federal statute against "collusion" and doesn't believe it's a crime, though other lawyers say it would violate campaign-finance laws. >> >> "At the moment, I haven't seen any evidence of any criminal activity or an impeachable offense. That doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him," said Dershowitz, who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016... >> >> Dershowitz said the bigger danger for Trump lies in the investigation by the U.S. attorney's office in New York focusing on his business dealings and relationships with women before he became president. >> >> "He doesn't have any constitutional defense for what he did before he became president," Dershowitz said. >> >> He criticized investigators for the way they handled the raid of Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen — subpoenaing email records without any opportunity for challenge by Cohen, and trying to create an FBI "taint team" to remove any records covered by attorney-client privilege before turning them over to investigators. >> >> "That doesn't protect the privilege," he said. "A judge or judicial officer should be doing the review." >> >> U.S. District Court Judge Kimba Wood — one of Dershowitz's former students — signaled that she may appoint an outside attorney for that review but has yet to make a final decision. >> >> "I think they ought to reserve searching lawyers' offices to the most serious crimes, not for technical violations of the law," Dershowitz said. "The reason they raided his office was, one, to get him to flip against President Trump, if he has anything to flip about; and, second, to see if they could find material on President Trump. He's a means toward an end." >> >> ...He disagrees with the president on many fronts — he's against the travel ban, the death penalty and some of the Trump's racially charged language, including a recent reference to immigrant "breeding," reminiscent of Nazi propaganda about Jews during the Holocaust. Those statements "have the effect of at least encouraging racist expression in this country. I think he ought to be more careful about the language he uses as president," Dershowitz said... >> >> Dershowitz, a strong supporter of Israel, has clashed with administrators at the University of California Berkeley and elsewhere over restrictions on outside speakers. He said universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech. >> >> "I'm a liberal Democrat, but I have views somewhat different from the radical left. And the radical left is determined to try to shut me down," he said. "I'm a much worse enemy to the radical left than the right-wing conservatives. They can laugh at them. They're extreme. I present an alternative liberal model that will attract lots of students away from the radicals." >> >> —CGE >> >>> On Apr 25, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Hey! Hey! >>> Dershowitz Say! >>> How many kids! >>> Did you kill today! >>> >>> Fab >>> >>> >>> Francis A. Boyle >>> Law Building >>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >>> Champaign, IL 61820 USA >>> 217-333-7954 (phone) >>> 217-244-1478 (fax) >>> (personal comments only) >>> >>> From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:28 AM >>> To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. >>> >>> Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. >>> >>> >>> The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. >>> Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. >>> See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From cgestabrook at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 22:25:30 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 17:25:30 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. In-Reply-To: References: <50142872-7E64-4464-96F9-4BF32B3B46A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54A17EEA-EC0D-44B5-8E2D-B89C09231526@gmail.com> Is Dershowitz right to criticize Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election? Is Dershowitz wrong to advise Trump as follows: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify”? Is ‘collusion’ as the Russiagaters charge, a crime? What do you think of the raid on Michael Cohen? Is it true that universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech? —CGE > On Apr 25, 2018, at 5:15 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > As I said, invite Dersh onto your TV Show and let me know the date, time and live-streaming info. I will be sure to send it along to Trump. He likes to listen to His Bootlickers Like Dersh. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: C G Estabrook > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 5:12 PM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > Both Chomsky and Finkelstein have appeared on live television with Dershowitz - even on Democracy Now - and viewers learnt about their important differences with him. > > They all have open invitations to News from Neptune - as you do. > > >> On Apr 25, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Oh and I will send a copy of your Announcement to Trump too. He likes to listen to his Bootlickers like Dersh.fab >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> Law Building >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> Champaign, IL 61820 USA >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> (personal comments only) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:56 PM >> To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. >> >> Sure Carl. Why don’t you invite Dersh to be on your TV Show and put out an Announcement on the date, time and www site for live downstreaming. I can then send it to Chomsky and Finkelstein so they can listen in to Dersh. >> Fab >> >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> Law Building >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> Champaign, IL 61820 USA >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> (personal comments only) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 2:39 PM >> To: Karen Aram >> Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. >> >> Those who object to his presence rather than to what he’s saying. >> >> What do you think of what he said to the News-Gazette? >> >>> On Apr 25, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Who is saying he should be deplatformed? >>> >>> Sent on my Virgin Mobile Phone. >>> >>> ------ Original message------ >>> From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss >>> Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 2:09 PM >>> To: Francis A Boyle; >>> Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); >>> Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. >>> >>> [Alan Dershowitz is reprehensible, on Israel and even on torture, as his debates with his childhood friend Noam Chomsky show - but no one can be wrong all the time, as the account in today’s News-Gazette shows. I think those who say he should be ‘de-platformed’ at UIUC are making a mistake. If you don’t believe in free speech for people you despise - and Dershowitz is despicable - you don’t believe in it at all. The following is from the C-U News-Gazette, 25 April 2018.] >>> >>> Dershowitz ... has criticized Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election. >>> >>> Dershowitz says he isn't defending Trump but thinks special prosecutors are "dangerous to democratic values." He has criticized the use of criminal investigations as political weapons, including the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server. >>> >>> "It's a problem I've had for years. I wrote a whole book about it when Bill Clinton was subject to the special-prosecutor law. I have said nothing different now. It's just that people don't like when I say it when it helps Donald Trump," he said. >>> >>> "I think we should figure out a system to eliminate the need for a special counsel," he said. "Their goal is to get somebody or a group that has a target on its back. If you don't get them, you've failed in your job." >>> >>> ....Dershowitz said he's given Trump four pieces of advice: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify." >>> >>> [All four are wrong: [1] Mueller’s ‘probe’ is an attempt to reassert the neocon anti-Russian policy of the Obama-Clinton administration, which Trump properly attacked in the campaign; Mueller should be fired. [2] Pardons should extend to the other victims of the neocon-neolib Bush-Obama administrations, such as Leonard Peltier; if some reprobates go free, so be it: none of the torturers of the Bush-Obama era have been imprisoned. [3] Trump’s tweets produce the important popular political discussions that Obama’s mendacities occluded. [4] Trump surely should testify, as he apparently wants to; the corporate media analysis of his character takes the place of an account of his actions.] >>> >>> Dershowitz has argued that there is no federal statute against "collusion" and doesn't believe it's a crime, though other lawyers say it would violate campaign-finance laws. >>> >>> "At the moment, I haven't seen any evidence of any criminal activity or an impeachable offense. That doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him," said Dershowitz, who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016... >>> >>> Dershowitz said the bigger danger for Trump lies in the investigation by the U.S. attorney's office in New York focusing on his business dealings and relationships with women before he became president. >>> >>> "He doesn't have any constitutional defense for what he did before he became president," Dershowitz said. >>> >>> He criticized investigators for the way they handled the raid of Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen — subpoenaing email records without any opportunity for challenge by Cohen, and trying to create an FBI "taint team" to remove any records covered by attorney-client privilege before turning them over to investigators. >>> >>> "That doesn't protect the privilege," he said. "A judge or judicial officer should be doing the review." >>> >>> U.S. District Court Judge Kimba Wood — one of Dershowitz's former students — signaled that she may appoint an outside attorney for that review but has yet to make a final decision. >>> >>> "I think they ought to reserve searching lawyers' offices to the most serious crimes, not for technical violations of the law," Dershowitz said. "The reason they raided his office was, one, to get him to flip against President Trump, if he has anything to flip about; and, second, to see if they could find material on President Trump. He's a means toward an end." >>> >>> ...He disagrees with the president on many fronts — he's against the travel ban, the death penalty and some of the Trump's racially charged language, including a recent reference to immigrant "breeding," reminiscent of Nazi propaganda about Jews during the Holocaust. Those statements "have the effect of at least encouraging racist expression in this country. I think he ought to be more careful about the language he uses as president," Dershowitz said... >>> >>> Dershowitz, a strong supporter of Israel, has clashed with administrators at the University of California Berkeley and elsewhere over restrictions on outside speakers. He said universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech. >>> >>> "I'm a liberal Democrat, but I have views somewhat different from the radical left. And the radical left is determined to try to shut me down," he said. "I'm a much worse enemy to the radical left than the right-wing conservatives. They can laugh at them. They're extreme. I present an alternative liberal model that will attract lots of students away from the radicals." >>> >>> —CGE >>> >>>> On Apr 25, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey! Hey! >>>> Dershowitz Say! >>>> How many kids! >>>> Did you kill today! >>>> >>>> Fab >>>> >>>> >>>> Francis A. Boyle >>>> Law Building >>>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >>>> Champaign, IL 61820 USA >>>> 217-333-7954 (phone) >>>> 217-244-1478 (fax) >>>> (personal comments only) >>>> >>>> From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss >>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:28 AM >>>> To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >>>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. >>>> >>>> Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. >>>> >>>> >>>> The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. >>>> Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. >>>> See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > From fboyle at illinois.edu Wed Apr 25 22:29:45 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 22:29:45 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. In-Reply-To: <54A17EEA-EC0D-44B5-8E2D-B89C09231526@gmail.com> References: <50142872-7E64-4464-96F9-4BF32B3B46A9@gmail.com> <54A17EEA-EC0D-44B5-8E2D-B89C09231526@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dershowitz is a Self-incriminated War Criminal against Palestinians. If you want to pay any attention to what he has to say, that is your problem. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: C G Estabrook Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 5:26 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. Is Dershowitz right to criticize Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election? Is Dershowitz wrong to advise Trump as follows: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify”? Is ‘collusion’ as the Russiagaters charge, a crime? What do you think of the raid on Michael Cohen? Is it true that universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech? —CGE > On Apr 25, 2018, at 5:15 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > As I said, invite Dersh onto your TV Show and let me know the date, time and live-streaming info. I will be sure to send it along to Trump. He likes to listen to His Bootlickers Like Dersh. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: C G Estabrook > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 5:12 PM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > Both Chomsky and Finkelstein have appeared on live television with Dershowitz - even on Democracy Now - and viewers learnt about their important differences with him. > > They all have open invitations to News from Neptune - as you do. > > >> On Apr 25, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Oh and I will send a copy of your Announcement to Trump too. He likes to listen to his Bootlickers like Dersh.fab >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> Law Building >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> Champaign, IL 61820 USA >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> (personal comments only) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:56 PM >> To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. >> >> Sure Carl. Why don’t you invite Dersh to be on your TV Show and put out an Announcement on the date, time and www site for live downstreaming. I can then send it to Chomsky and Finkelstein so they can listen in to Dersh. >> Fab >> >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> Law Building >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> Champaign, IL 61820 USA >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> (personal comments only) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 2:39 PM >> To: Karen Aram >> Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. >> >> Those who object to his presence rather than to what he’s saying. >> >> What do you think of what he said to the News-Gazette? >> >>> On Apr 25, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Who is saying he should be deplatformed? >>> >>> Sent on my Virgin Mobile Phone. >>> >>> ------ Original message------ >>> From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss >>> Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 2:09 PM >>> To: Francis A Boyle; >>> Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); >>> Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. >>> >>> [Alan Dershowitz is reprehensible, on Israel and even on torture, as his debates with his childhood friend Noam Chomsky show - but no one can be wrong all the time, as the account in today’s News-Gazette shows. I think those who say he should be ‘de-platformed’ at UIUC are making a mistake. If you don’t believe in free speech for people you despise - and Dershowitz is despicable - you don’t believe in it at all. The following is from the C-U News-Gazette, 25 April 2018.] >>> >>> Dershowitz ... has criticized Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election. >>> >>> Dershowitz says he isn't defending Trump but thinks special prosecutors are "dangerous to democratic values." He has criticized the use of criminal investigations as political weapons, including the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server. >>> >>> "It's a problem I've had for years. I wrote a whole book about it when Bill Clinton was subject to the special-prosecutor law. I have said nothing different now. It's just that people don't like when I say it when it helps Donald Trump," he said. >>> >>> "I think we should figure out a system to eliminate the need for a special counsel," he said. "Their goal is to get somebody or a group that has a target on its back. If you don't get them, you've failed in your job." >>> >>> ....Dershowitz said he's given Trump four pieces of advice: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify." >>> >>> [All four are wrong: [1] Mueller’s ‘probe’ is an attempt to reassert the neocon anti-Russian policy of the Obama-Clinton administration, which Trump properly attacked in the campaign; Mueller should be fired. [2] Pardons should extend to the other victims of the neocon-neolib Bush-Obama administrations, such as Leonard Peltier; if some reprobates go free, so be it: none of the torturers of the Bush-Obama era have been imprisoned. [3] Trump’s tweets produce the important popular political discussions that Obama’s mendacities occluded. [4] Trump surely should testify, as he apparently wants to; the corporate media analysis of his character takes the place of an account of his actions.] >>> >>> Dershowitz has argued that there is no federal statute against "collusion" and doesn't believe it's a crime, though other lawyers say it would violate campaign-finance laws. >>> >>> "At the moment, I haven't seen any evidence of any criminal activity or an impeachable offense. That doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him," said Dershowitz, who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016... >>> >>> Dershowitz said the bigger danger for Trump lies in the investigation by the U.S. attorney's office in New York focusing on his business dealings and relationships with women before he became president. >>> >>> "He doesn't have any constitutional defense for what he did before he became president," Dershowitz said. >>> >>> He criticized investigators for the way they handled the raid of Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen — subpoenaing email records without any opportunity for challenge by Cohen, and trying to create an FBI "taint team" to remove any records covered by attorney-client privilege before turning them over to investigators. >>> >>> "That doesn't protect the privilege," he said. "A judge or judicial officer should be doing the review." >>> >>> U.S. District Court Judge Kimba Wood — one of Dershowitz's former students — signaled that she may appoint an outside attorney for that review but has yet to make a final decision. >>> >>> "I think they ought to reserve searching lawyers' offices to the most serious crimes, not for technical violations of the law," Dershowitz said. "The reason they raided his office was, one, to get him to flip against President Trump, if he has anything to flip about; and, second, to see if they could find material on President Trump. He's a means toward an end." >>> >>> ...He disagrees with the president on many fronts — he's against the travel ban, the death penalty and some of the Trump's racially charged language, including a recent reference to immigrant "breeding," reminiscent of Nazi propaganda about Jews during the Holocaust. Those statements "have the effect of at least encouraging racist expression in this country. I think he ought to be more careful about the language he uses as president," Dershowitz said... >>> >>> Dershowitz, a strong supporter of Israel, has clashed with administrators at the University of California Berkeley and elsewhere over restrictions on outside speakers. He said universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech. >>> >>> "I'm a liberal Democrat, but I have views somewhat different from the radical left. And the radical left is determined to try to shut me down," he said. "I'm a much worse enemy to the radical left than the right-wing conservatives. They can laugh at them. They're extreme. I present an alternative liberal model that will attract lots of students away from the radicals." >>> >>> —CGE >>> >>>> On Apr 25, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey! Hey! >>>> Dershowitz Say! >>>> How many kids! >>>> Did you kill today! >>>> >>>> Fab >>>> >>>> >>>> Francis A. Boyle >>>> Law Building >>>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >>>> Champaign, IL 61820 USA >>>> 217-333-7954 (phone) >>>> 217-244-1478 (fax) >>>> (personal comments only) >>>> >>>> From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss >>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:28 AM >>>> To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >>>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. >>>> >>>> Please join us Thursday evening 6:45pm at the Foelinger Bldg. to speak against Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the U of I, continuing to support warmongers as role models for students. >>>> >>>> >>>> The Gies College of Business at UIUC has invited retired Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz to speak on April 26th. Dershowitz supports gunning down unarmed protestors in Gaza, opposes BDS, given business interests in Israel, and amongst other things, called for the military strike on Syria. >>>> Dershowitz admitted, publicly, that he is part of a Mossad committee that authorized the assassination of Palestinians. >>>> See: counterpunch.org, by Prof. [Liquat Ali] Khan >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > From cgestabrook at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 22:44:52 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 17:44:52 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. In-Reply-To: References: <50142872-7E64-4464-96F9-4BF32B3B46A9@gmail.com> <54A17EEA-EC0D-44B5-8E2D-B89C09231526@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1E80B250-280C-4523-8AE4-65E910892C6E@gmail.com> My answer to all the questions except the third is, ‘Yes.’ —CGE > On Apr 25, 2018, at 5:29 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > Dershowitz is a Self-incriminated War Criminal against Palestinians. If you want to pay any attention to what he has to say, that is your problem. > > Fab > > > -----Original Message----- > From: C G Estabrook > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 5:26 PM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. > > Is Dershowitz right to criticize Mueller's inquiry into possible collusion by the Trump campaign with Russians meddling in the 2016 presidential election? > > Is Dershowitz wrong to advise Trump as follows: "Don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify”? > > Is ‘collusion’ as the Russiagaters charge, a crime? > > Is the raid on Michael Cohen overreaching? > > Is it true that universities are no longer teaching students the value of free speech? > > —CGE > >> On Apr 25, 2018, at 5:15 PM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: >> >> As I said, invite Dersh onto your TV Show and let me know the date, time and live-streaming info. I will be sure to send it along to Trump. He likes to listen to His Bootlickers Like Dersh. Fab. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: C G Estabrook >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 5:12 PM >> To: Boyle, Francis A >> Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. >> >> Both Chomsky and Finkelstein have appeared on live television with Dershowitz - even on Democracy Now - and viewers learnt about their important differences with him. >> >> They all have open invitations to News from Neptune - as you do. >> >> >>> On Apr 25, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Oh and I will send a copy of your Announcement to Trump too. He likes to listen to his Bootlickers like Dersh.fab >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:56 PM >>> To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally at U of I Thursday 6:45 opposing warmonger Dershowitz as role model. >>> >>> Sure Carl. Why don’t you invite Dersh to be on your TV Show and put out an Announcement on the date, time and www site for live downstreaming. I can then send it to Chomsky and Finkelstein so they can listen in to Dersh. >>> Fab >>> From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Apr 26 00:12:09 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 00:12:09 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Chomsky Condemns Trump vs. Dersh & CU Zionists & Estabrook Defend Trump: "A Complete Disaster": Noam Chomsky on Trump and the Future of US Politics Message-ID: https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her ConsortCIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 7:06 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: "A Complete Disaster": Noam Chomsky on Trump and the Future of US Politics [http://www.truth-out.org/images/Images_2018_04/2018_2404_Chomsky.jpg] ''A Complete Disaster'': Noam Chomsky on Trump and the Future of US Politics ''We don't need Comey to tell us that Trump is morally unfit,'' Chomsky says. http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/44261-a-complete-disaster-noam-chomsky-on-trump-and-the-future-of-us-politics Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign, IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 7:06 PM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: "A Complete Disaster": Noam Chomsky on Trump and the Future of US Politics > > > ''A Complete Disaster'': Noam Chomsky on Trump and the Future of US Politics > ''We don't need Comey to tell us that Trump is morally unfit,'' Chomsky says. > > > http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/44261-a-complete-disaster-noam-chomsky-on-trump-and-the-future-of-us-politics > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From galliher at illinois.edu Thu Apr 26 01:58:07 2018 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:58:07 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Chomsky Condemns Trump vs. Dersh & CU Zionists & Estabrook Defend Trump: "A Complete Disaster": Noam Chomsky on Trump and the Future of US Politics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Trumpism is one of many manifestations of the effects of the neoliberal policies of the past generation. These have led to extreme concentration of wealth along with stagnation for the majority. There have been repeated crashes of the deregulated financial institutions, each worse than the last. Bursting bubbles have been followed by huge public bailouts for the perpetrators while the victims have been abandoned. Globalization has been designed to set working people throughout the world in competition with one another while private capital is lavished with benefits. Democratic institutions have eroded. As already mentioned, all of this has led to anger, bitterness, often desperation -- one remarkable effect is the increasing mortality among middle-age whites ..., analyzed as "deaths of despair," a phenomenon unknown in functioning societies. While there are variations from place to place, some features are common. One is the decline of the centrist parties that have long dominated political life, as we see in election after election. In the US, in recent years, whenever candidates arose from the base in the Republican primaries, the established powers were able to crush them and impose their own choice: Mitt Romney, most recently. In 2016, for the first time they were unable to do so, but they quickly rallied to the winning candidate, who proved quite willing to front for the more brutal wing of the traditional party. The real surprise in the election was the Sanders campaign, which broke with a long tradition of pretty much bought elections, and was stopped only by machinations of the Obama-Clinton party managers. The Democratic Party is now split between the donor-oriented New Democrat managers and a growing activist social democratic base... > On Apr 25, 2018, at 7:12 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > ''A Complete Disaster'': Noam Chomsky on Trump and the Future of US Politics > > > From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 26 09:39:09 2018 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 09:39:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Zionist controlled US MSM / Gaza protests References: <1466436934.1072382.1524735549632.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1466436934.1072382.1524735549632@mail.yahoo.com> News reports on the Gaza protests are either buried in back-page reports or nonexistent in Peace-Discuss, USA Today, CNN, MSNBC, Google... please prove me wrong. This could only be the product of editors beholden to pro-Jewish persuasions. Their mission is to hide what really happened in 1948. 40 dead, 5,511 wounded: UN releases figures on Palestinian casualties in Gaza's mass protests | | | | | | | | | | | 40 dead, 5,511 wounded: UN releases figures on Palestinian casualties in... Jack Khoury *** | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Apr 26 11:42:44 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:42:44 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz Message-ID: Message from the group ZAHRA "Join us in solidarity to protest the appearance of Alan Dershowitz who will be speaking at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. Dershowitz is a Zionist, denies war crimes, and supports US intervention in Syria. He will be speaking at Foellinger Auditorium starting at 7:30 pm " Professor Francis Boyle from the College of Law at the University of Illinois will be speaking” on behalf of human rights at the protest. Co-sponsors: ISO, SASA, Socialist Alternative, PSL APR26 Going Alan Dershowitz? More like Alan DershNOwitz Thu 6:45 PM CDT · Foellinger Auditorium · Urbana, IL Brandon and Monika are interested -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He will be speaking at Foellinger Auditorium starting at 7:30 pm " > Professor Francis Boyle from the College of Law at the University of Illinois will be speaking” on behalf of human rights at the protest. > Co-sponsors: ISO, SASA, Socialist Alternative, PSL > APR > 26 > Going > > Alan Dershowitz? More like Alan DershNOwitz > > Thu 6:45 PM CDT · Foellinger Auditorium · Urbana, IL > Brandon and Monika are interested > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Apr 26 11:57:53 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:57:53 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz References: Message-ID: DershNOwitz LOL! Made my day. And it is only beginning. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:43 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >; peace > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz Message from the group ZAHRA "Join us in solidarity to protest the appearance of Alan Dershowitz who will be speaking at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. Dershowitz is a Zionist, denies war crimes, and supports US intervention in Syria. He will be speaking at Foellinger Auditorium starting at 7:30 pm " Professor Francis Boyle from the College of Law at the University of Illinois will be speaking” on behalf of human rights at the protest. Co-sponsors: ISO, SASA, Socialist Alternative, PSL APR26 Going Alan Dershowitz? More like Alan DershNOwitz Thu 6:45 PM CDT · Foellinger Auditorium · Urbana, IL Brandon and Monika are interested -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Thu Apr 26 12:02:06 2018 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 07:02:06 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <11C700C9-EFE9-48BB-8F97-E34ED0AD2A37@illinois.edu> Francis— I hope you’ll take the trouble to explain to a yet unknowing world, why Dershowitz’ views are wrong - rather than simply denouncing the College of Law. —CGE > On Apr 26, 2018, at 6:57 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > DershNOwitz > LOL! Made my day. And it is only beginning. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:43 AM > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) ; peace > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz > > > Message from the group ZAHRA > "Join us in solidarity to protest the appearance of Alan Dershowitz who will be speaking at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. Dershowitz is a Zionist, denies war crimes, and supports US intervention in Syria. He will be speaking at Foellinger Auditorium starting at 7:30 pm " > Professor Francis Boyle from the College of Law at the University of Illinois will be speaking” on behalf of human rights at the protest. > Co-sponsors: ISO, SASA, Socialist Alternative, PSL > APR26 > Going > Alan Dershowitz? More like Alan DershNOwitz > Thu 6:45 PM CDT · Foellinger Auditorium · Urbana, IL > Brandon and Monika are interested > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Apr 26 12:04:13 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:04:13 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz In-Reply-To: <11C700C9-EFE9-48BB-8F97-E34ED0AD2A37@illinois.edu> References: <11C700C9-EFE9-48BB-8F97-E34ED0AD2A37@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Read Chomsky. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 7:02 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz Francis— I hope you’ll take the trouble to explain to a yet unknowing world, why Dershowitz’ views are wrong - rather than simply denouncing the College of Law. —CGE > On Apr 26, 2018, at 6:57 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > DershNOwitz > LOL! Made my day. And it is only beginning. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] > On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:43 AM > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > ; peace > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan > Dershowitz > > > Message from the group ZAHRA > "Join us in solidarity to protest the appearance of Alan Dershowitz who will be speaking at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. Dershowitz is a Zionist, denies war crimes, and supports US intervention in Syria. He will be speaking at Foellinger Auditorium starting at 7:30 pm " > Professor Francis Boyle from the College of Law at the University of Illinois will be speaking” on behalf of human rights at the protest. > Co-sponsors: ISO, SASA, Socialist Alternative, PSL > APR26 > Going > Alan Dershowitz? More like Alan DershNOwitz Thu 6:45 PM CDT · > Foellinger Auditorium · Urbana, IL Brandon and Monika are interested > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Apr 26 13:02:54 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 13:02:54 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Not the Onion Message-ID: Posted by Carl Estabrook, one of the best things I’ve read,,,and no its not the onion. APRIL 26, 2018 The League of Assad-Loving Conspiracy Theorists by CJ HOPKINS FacebookTwitterGoogle+RedditEmail[https://uziiw38pmyg1ai60732c4011-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/dropzone/2017/09/atoa-print-icon.png] So the global capitalist ruling classes’ War on Dissent is now in full swing. With their new and improved official narrative, “Democracy versus the Putin-Nazis,” successfully implanted in the public consciousness, the corporatocracy have been focusing their efforts on delegitimizing any and all forms of deviation from their utterly absurd and increasingly paranoid version of reality. The Democratic Party is suing Russia, the Trump campaign, and Wikileaks (seriously … they’ve filed an actual lawsuit in an actual court of law an everything) for launching “an all-out assault on democracy” by publishing the DNC’s emails, “an act of unprecedented treachery,” according to Party Chairman Tom Perez. Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, having already spent the last six years in a room in the Ecuadorian embassy in London to avoid being arrested by the British authorities, extradited to the United States, and imprisoned for the remainder of his natural life, has been cut off from the outside world in order to prevent him from further “interfering” with democracy by expressing his opinions. In Syria, where the “international community” has been battling the “global terrorist threat” by supporting moderate jihadist militias intent on overthrowing the government and establishing a fundamentalist theocracy, the corporate media have been hard at work sanctifying the official story of the “chemical weapons attack” in Douma. According to this story, Bashar al-Assad, an uncooperative brutal dictator whom the corporatocracy has been trying to replace with a more cooperative brutal dictator, dropped a lot of chlorine gas bombs (and possibly sarin, the deadly nerve agent), onto a house full of innocent babies. He did this on the eve of victory over those moderate jihadist militias the “international community” has been supporting in their eight-year attempt to take over his country, slaughter him and his entire family, mount their severed heads on spikes, implement nationwide Sharia law, and then go out hunting homosexuals and heretics to gruesomely behead on YouTube. The evacuation of these freedom fighters was already being negotiated, but Assad didn’t want to miss his last chance to sadistically gas a lot of women and children and have the Western corporate media broadcast his war crimes throughout the world, or something more or less along those lines. This gratuitous baby-gassing massacre could not be allowed to go unpunished, so Emmanuel Macron and other senior members of the “international community” hauled Trump in off a golf course somewhere (or wrestled him away from the Gorilla Channel) and ordered him to order a completely pointless one hundred fifty million dollar series of “retaliatory” missile strikes on assorted uninhabited buildings containing zero chemical weapons and of absolutely no strategic value. The corporate media and their paid menagerie of military experts and other talking heads took to the airwaves to celebrate this demonstration of international “resolve,” as did investors in Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, and General Dynamics. The celebrations were short-lived, however, as the corporate media needed to immediately turn their attention to aggressively countering the malicious disinformation campaign being waged by the infamous International Putin-Nazi Propaganda Network (i.e., anyone capable of critical thinking). Reports by journalists actually in Syria, like Robert Fisk of The Independent, casting doubt on the official story needed to be strenuously ignored, ridiculed, and delegitimized. Fisk, a respected, award-winning journalist who has covered the Middle East for over four decades, had clearly been duped by his Putin-Nazi minders into publishing pro-Assad propaganda. Just as clearly, any actual Syrians contradicting the official story (which the corporate media had scrupulously fact-checked with the US military and intelligence agencies) had been intimidated into doing so by Putin-Nazi-Assadist death squads. But Fisk and the Syrians are small potatoes compared to the discord-sowing threat posed by the International League of Assad-Loving Twitter Conspiracy Theorists, a decentralized network of “anti-Western,” “pro-Assad,” extremist traitors led by people like Sarah Abdallah, a shadowy figure whose current whereabouts the BBC is still trying to pinpoint (and presumably report to MI6), and Vanessa Beeley, an independent journalist who writes about Syria for an “extreme right” website, speaks to “fringe groups,” and has appeared on RT, which the BBC is at pains to remind us is a “state-owned” media organization. This nefarious network of dissension-sowers is also responsible for the “4000 percent increase” in Putin-Nazi propaganda in the wake of the Poisoned Porridge Attack that “Russia” carried out in Salisbury in March, in which operatives allegedly smeared the doorknob of a former Russian intelligence officer and his daughter with oatmeal laced with Novichok, “the deadliest nerve agent ever devised,” instead of, well, you know, just shooting the guy, or throwing him out of an upper-floor window. Despite the potency of this lethal nerve agent, which, for some reason, “can only be made in Russia,” both victims are expected to completely recover. Tragically, their cat and guinea pigs, having also managed to survive the attack, were slowly starved to death by the police, presumably out of an abundance of caution. In any event, according to the diligent, authoritative investigative journalists at The Guardian, following this brazen porridge attack, “automated bots” “based in Russia,” like @Partisangirl and @Ian56789, spread Putin-Nazi disinformation to millions of unknowing Twitter users in an attempt to “undermine the international system” (whatever that’s supposed to mean). As it turns out, @Partisangirl is just a human being and not a robot at all, and @Ian56789 is just a feisty British pensioner who is tired of being routinely lied to by the government and the corporate media … unless, of course, he’s a sleeper agent just posing as a feisty pensioner, which he hasn’t been able to conclusively disprove to the satisfaction of the corporate media. (Watch Ian being interrogated by a Sky News Russian Bot-Hunting Team and judge his loyalties for yourself!) These are just a few examples of how the global capitalist ruling classes and their mouthpieces in the corporate media have been generating an atmosphere of mindless hysteria and paranoia in the service of drawing “a line in the sand” between neoliberalism (i.e., global capitalism) and any and all forms of dissent therefrom. They’ve been at this, relentlessly, for almost two years now, since they recognized they were being confronted with a bona fide widespread “populist” insurgency against the hegemony of global capitalism, not just in the Greater Middle East, but right in the heart of the Western empire. I’ve been writing about this since 2016, so I’m not going to try to rehash all that here. The short version is, Western societies are being divided into two opposing camps … two extremely broad ideological camps, both of which encompass the traditional political division into left and right. Let’s call camp number one “the Normals” (i.e., those who support and conform to the values and ideology of global capitalism, regardless of whether they identify as conservatives, liberals, neoliberals, neoconservatives, or anything else). Let’s call camp number two “the Extremists” (i.e., those opposing global capitalism, or not conforming to its ideology, regardless of whether they identify as socialists, communists, anarchists, fascists, anti-fascists, jihadists, or whatever). While, of course, real political conflict still takes place within each of these two broad camps, the global capitalist ruling classes are less concerned with the “left/right” equation than they are with “Normal/Extremist” equation. This is the battle they are fighting currently. Short some sort of miraculous event, it is a battle they are going to win. They are going to win it by demonizing anyone opposing global capitalism as one or another form of “extremist” … an Islamic terrorist, an Antifa terrorist, a white supremacist, a Black identity extremist, an anti-Semite, a conspiracy theorist, an Assad apologist, a Russian bot, a Putin-Nazi propagandist … or whatever. It doesn’t really matter which labels they use. The point is, anyone not conforming to the global capitalist version of reality is an enemy of all that is normal and good. In an atmosphere of mass hysteria and paranoia (like the one we’re living in at the moment), the authorities’ narratives do not have to make sense, or stand up to any type of real scrutiny. Their primary purpose is not to deceive, but rather, to demarcate an ideological territory of acceptable belief, expression, and emotion to which “normal” people are expected to conform. Beyond the boundaries of that territory lies the outer darkness of “abnormality” and “extremism,” which no “normal” person wants anything to do with. To avoid being cast into this outer darkness, people will conform to the most absurd and paranoid nonsense you can possibly imagine. The global capitalist ruling classes know this, which is why they don’t care if you disprove their narratives on Twitter or some “disreputable” website they’ve rendered virtually invisible anyway. They are not debating the facts or the truth … they are marking the boundaries of that “normal” territory, and herding frightened people into it. This article in Haaretz by Alexander Reid Ross, a lecturer at Portland State University who has been publishing (or attempting to publish) a series of rather paranoid pieces smearing people he disagrees with as neo-Strasserist sleeper agents, provides an extreme but clear example of what Western governments and the corporate media have been doing, albeit on a much subtler level. Read the piece through if you can possibly stand it. You will be told how people like Michael Savage, Rania Khalek, Alex Jones, Breitbart’s entire UK office, Cenk Ugyur, Max Blumenthal, Caitlin Johnstone, Glenn Greenwald, The Nation‘s Stephen F. Cohen, Tucker Carlson, Vanessa Beeley (again), various British fascists, Jeremy Corbyn, and that modern-day Rasputin, Lyndon LaRouche, are all parts of the insidious Putin-Nazi plot to … well, I’m not sure, exactly, but I’m pretty sure it has something to do with killing Jews and gassing babies. Would you like to be associated with people like that … Assad-loving, Putin-supporting Nazis? No? Then stop and think very carefully before sharing, “liking,” or commenting on this essay. Join the debate on Facebook More articles by:CJ HOPKINS C. J. Hopkins is an award-winning American playwright, novelist and satirist based in Berlin. His plays are published by Bloomsbury Publishing (UK) and Broadway Play Publishing (USA). His debut novel, ZONE 23, is published by Snoggsworthy, Swaine & Cormorant. He can reached at cjhopkins.com or consentfactory.org. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Thu Apr 26 14:41:25 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 14:41:25 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Urbana is a sanctuary city. What does that mean? : SPlog : Smile Politely In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What about making all of Champaign County a sanctuary, as suggested here? In answer to this question: The Democrats control the Champaign County Board 12 to 10. All they have to do is take the Updated 2016 Urbana Sanctuary Resolution, revise it accordingly for Champaign County, and pass it. Happy to help them out if they want me to. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:37 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: Urbana is a sanctuary city. What does that mean? : SPlog : Smile Politely Urbana is a sanctuary city. What does that mean? : SPlog : Smile Politely Smile Politely is Champaign-Urbana's independent online magazine. We provide the community with a passionate, trustworthy, informed point of view on local music, arts, culture, food & drink, sports, politics and news. Whatever entertains you, informs you, excites you, or frustrates you, is all likely to be covered in our magazine. http://www.smilepolitely.com/splog/urbana_is_a_sanctuary_city._what_does_that_mean/ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bjornsona at ameritech.net Thu Apr 26 18:24:34 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (bjornsona at ameritech.net) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 13:24:34 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz Message-ID: Carl- it was good to see you back this week. I missed my much-appreciated shot of AWARE on the Air last week!  Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------From: Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discussDate: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 7:02 AMTo: Francis A Boyle;Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz Francis— I hope you’ll take the trouble to explain to a yet unknowing world, why Dershowitz’ views are wrong - rather than simply denouncing the College of Law. —CGE > On Apr 26, 2018, at 6:57 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > DershNOwitz > LOL! Made my day. And it is only beginning. Fab. > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:43 AM > To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) ; peace > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz > > > Message from the group ZAHRA > "Join us in solidarity to protest the appearance of Alan Dershowitz who will be speaking at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. Dershowitz is a Zionist, denies war crimes, and supports US intervention in Syria. He will be speaking at Foellinger Auditorium starting at 7:30 pm " > Professor Francis Boyle from the College of Law at the University of Illinois will be speaking” on behalf of human rights at the protest. > Co-sponsors: ISO, SASA, Socialist Alternative, PSL > APR26 > Going > Alan Dershowitz? More like Alan DershNOwitz > Thu 6:45 PM CDT · Foellinger Auditorium · Urbana, IL > Brandon and Monika are interested > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Thu Apr 26 18:27:22 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 13:27:22 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <11CB85E3-B234-4538-BA02-D208AB1470C1@gmail.com> Thank you for saying so. (It’s not a universal opinion!) > On Apr 26, 2018, at 1:24 PM, bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Carl- it was good to see you back this week. I missed my much-appreciated shot of AWARE on the Air last week! > > Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > ------ Original message------ > From: Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 7:02 AM > To: Francis A Boyle; > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz > > Francis— > > I hope you’ll take the trouble to explain to a yet unknowing world, why Dershowitz’ views are wrong - rather than simply denouncing the College of Law. > > —CGE > > > > On Apr 26, 2018, at 6:57 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: > > > > DershNOwitz > > LOL! Made my day. And it is only beginning. Fab. > > > > Francis A. Boyle > > Law Building > > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > > Champaign IL 61820 USA > > > 217-333-7954 > (phone) > > > 217-244-1478 > (fax) > > (personal comments only) > > > > From: Peace-discuss [mailto > :peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net > ] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:43 AM > > To: Peace-discuss List > (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) ; peace > > > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz > > > > > > Message from the group ZAHRA > > "Join us in solidarity to protest the appearance of Alan Dershowitz who will be speaking at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. Dershowitz is a Zionist, denies war crimes, and supports US intervention in Syria. He will be speaking at Foellinger Auditorium starting at 7:30 pm " > > Professor Francis Boyle from the College of Law at the University of Illinois will be speaking” on behalf of human rights at the protest. > > Co-sponsors: ISO, SASA, Socialist Alternative, PSL > > APR26 > > Going > > Alan Dershowitz? More like Alan DershNOwitz > > Thu 6:45 PM CDT · Foellinger Auditorium · Urbana, IL > > Brandon and Monika are interested > > _______________________________________________ > > Peace-discuss mailing list > > > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From cgestabrook at gmail.com Thu Apr 26 18:32:50 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 13:32:50 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here’s a piece I’ll feature next week (I wish I’d written it): . —CGE > On Apr 26, 2018, at 1:24 PM, bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Carl- it was good to see you back this week. I missed my much-appreciated shot of AWARE on the Air last week! > > Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > ------ Original message------ > From: Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 7:02 AM > To: Francis A Boyle; > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz > > Francis— > > I hope you’ll take the trouble to explain to a yet unknowing world, why Dershowitz’ views are wrong - rather than simply denouncing the College of Law. > > —CGE > > > > On Apr 26, 2018, at 6:57 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: > > > > DershNOwitz > > LOL! Made my day. And it is only beginning. Fab. > > > > Francis A. Boyle > > Law Building > > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > > Champaign IL 61820 USA > > > 217-333-7954 > (phone) > > > 217-244-1478 > (fax) > > (personal comments only) > > > > From: Peace-discuss [mailto > :peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net > ] On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:43 AM > > To: Peace-discuss List > (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) ; peace > > > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz > > > > > > Message from the group ZAHRA > > "Join us in solidarity to protest the appearance of Alan Dershowitz who will be speaking at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. Dershowitz is a Zionist, denies war crimes, and supports US intervention in Syria. He will be speaking at Foellinger Auditorium starting at 7:30 pm " > > Professor Francis Boyle from the College of Law at the University of Illinois will be speaking” on behalf of human rights at the protest. > > Co-sponsors: ISO, SASA, Socialist Alternative, PSL > > APR26 > > Going > > Alan Dershowitz? More like Alan DershNOwitz > > Thu 6:45 PM CDT · Foellinger Auditorium · Urbana, IL > > Brandon and Monika are interested > > _______________________________________________ > > Peace-discuss mailing list > > > From cgestabrook at gmail.com Thu Apr 26 18:47:33 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 13:47:33 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] War on Dissent Message-ID: <77DF697D-DE4D-4A22-9019-4BC588358D7F@gmail.com> https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/04/26/the-league-of-assad-loving-conspiracy-theorists/ So the global capitalist ruling classes’ War on Dissent is now in full swing. With their new and improved official narrative, “Democracy versus the Putin-Nazis,” successfully implanted in the public consciousness, the corporatocracy have been focusing their efforts on delegitimizing any and all forms of deviation from their utterly absurd and increasingly paranoid version of reality. The Democratic Party is suing Russia, the Trump campaign, and Wikileaks (seriously … they’ve filed an actual lawsuit in an actual court of law an everything) for launching “an all-out assault on democracy” by publishing the DNC’s emails, “an act of unprecedented treachery,” according to Party Chairman Tom Perez. Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, having already spent the last six years in a room in the Ecuadorian embassy in London to avoid being arrested by the British authorities, extradited to the United States, and imprisoned for the remainder of his natural life, has been cut off from the outside world in order to prevent him from further “interfering” with democracy by expressing his opinions. In Syria, where the “international community” has been battling the “global terrorist threat” by supporting moderate jihadist militias intent on overthrowing the government and establishing a fundamentalist theocracy, the corporate media have been hard at work sanctifying the official story of the “chemical weapons attack” in Douma. According to this story, Bashar al-Assad, an uncooperative brutal dictator whom the corporatocracy has been trying to replace with a more cooperative brutal dictator, dropped a lot of chlorine gas bombs (and possibly sarin, the deadly nerve agent), onto a house full of innocent babies. He did this on the eve of victory over those moderate jihadist militias the “international community” has been supporting in their eight-year attempt to take over his country, slaughter him and his entire family, mount their severed heads on spikes, implement nationwide Sharia law, and then go out hunting homosexuals and heretics to gruesomely behead on YouTube. The evacuation of these freedom fighters was already being negotiated, but Assad didn’t want to miss his last chance to sadistically gas a lot of women and children and have the Western corporate media broadcast his war crimes throughout the world, or something more or less along those lines. This gratuitous baby-gassing massacre could not be allowed to go unpunished, so Emmanuel Macron and other senior members of the “international community” hauled Trump in off a golf course somewhere (or wrestled him away from the Gorilla Channel) and ordered him to order a completely pointless one hundred fifty million dollar series of “retaliatory” missile strikes on assorted uninhabited buildings containing zero chemical weapons and of absolutely no strategic value. The corporate media and their paid menagerie of military experts and other talking heads took to the airwaves to celebrate this demonstration of international “resolve,” as did investors in Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, and General Dynamics. The celebrations were short-lived, however, as the corporate media needed to immediately turn their attention to aggressively countering the malicious disinformation campaign being waged by the infamous International Putin-Nazi Propaganda Network (i.e., anyone capable of critical thinking). Reports by journalists actually in Syria, like Robert Fisk of The Independent, casting doubt on the official story needed to be strenuously ignored, ridiculed, and delegitimized. Fisk, a respected, award-winning journalist who has covered the Middle East for over four decades, had clearly been duped by his Putin-Nazi minders into publishing pro-Assad propaganda. Just as clearly, any actual Syrians contradicting the official story (which the corporate media had scrupulously fact-checked with the US military and intelligence agencies) had been intimidated into doing so by Putin-Nazi-Assadist death squads. But Fisk and the Syrians are small potatoes compared to the discord-sowing threat posed by the International League of Assad-Loving Twitter Conspiracy Theorists, a decentralized network of “anti-Western,” “pro-Assad,” extremist traitors led by people like Sarah Abdallah, a shadowy figure whose current whereabouts the BBC is still trying to pinpoint (and presumably report to MI6), and Vanessa Beeley, an independent journalist who writes about Syria for an “extreme right” website, speaks to “fringe groups,” and has appeared on RT, which the BBC is at pains to remind us is a “state-owned” media organization. This nefarious network of dissension-sowers is also responsible for the “4000 percent increase” in Putin-Nazi propaganda in the wake of the Poisoned Porridge Attack that “Russia” carried out in Salisbury in March, in which operatives allegedly smeared the doorknob of a former Russian intelligence officer and his daughter with oatmeal laced with Novichok, “the deadliest nerve agent ever devised,” instead of, well, you know, just shooting the guy, or throwing him out of an upper-floor window. Despite the potency of this lethal nerve agent, which, for some reason, “can only be made in Russia,” both victims are expected to completely recover. Tragically, their cat and guinea pigs, having also managed to survive the attack, were slowly starved to death by the police, presumably out of an abundance of caution. In any event, according to the diligent, authoritative investigative journalists at The Guardian, following this brazen porridge attack, “automated bots” “based in Russia,” like @Partisangirl and @Ian56789, spread Putin-Nazi disinformation to millions of unknowing Twitter users in an attempt to “undermine the international system” (whatever that’s supposed to mean). As it turns out, @Partisangirl is just a human being and not a robot at all, and @Ian56789 is just a feisty British pensioner who is tired of being routinely lied to by the government and the corporate media … unless, of course, he’s a sleeper agent just posing as a feisty pensioner, which he hasn’t been able to conclusively disprove to the satisfaction of the corporate media. (Watch Ian being interrogated by a Sky News Russian Bot-Hunting Team and judge his loyalties for yourself!) These are just a few examples of how the global capitalist ruling classes and their mouthpieces in the corporate media have been generating an atmosphere of mindless hysteria and paranoia in the service of drawing “a line in the sand” between neoliberalism (i.e., global capitalism) and any and all forms of dissent therefrom. They’ve been at this, relentlessly, for almost two years now, since they recognized they were being confronted with a bona fide widespread “populist” insurgency against the hegemony of global capitalism, not just in the Greater Middle East, but right in the heart of the Western empire. I’ve been writing about this since 2016, so I’m not going to try to rehash all that here. The short version is, Western societies are being divided into two opposing camps … two extremely broad ideological camps, both of which encompass the traditional political division into left and right. Let’s call camp number one “the Normals” (i.e., those who support and conform to the values and ideology of global capitalism, regardless of whether they identify as conservatives, liberals, neoliberals, neoconservatives, or anything else). Let’s call camp number two “the Extremists” (i.e., those opposing global capitalism, or not conforming to its ideology, regardless of whether they identify as socialists, communists, anarchists, fascists, anti-fascists, jihadists, or whatever). While, of course, real political conflict still takes place within each of these two broad camps, the global capitalist ruling classes are less concerned with the “left/right” equation than they are with “Normal/Extremist” equation. This is the battle they are fighting currently. Short some sort of miraculous event, it is a battle they are going to win. They are going to win it by demonizing anyone opposing global capitalism as one or another form of “extremist” … an Islamic terrorist, an Antifa terrorist, a white supremacist, a Black identity extremist, an anti-Semite, a conspiracy theorist, an Assad apologist, a Russian bot, a Putin-Nazi propagandist … or whatever. It doesn’t really matter which labels they use. The point is, anyone not conforming to the global capitalist version of reality is an enemy of all that is normal and good. In an atmosphere of mass hysteria and paranoia (like the one we’re living in at the moment), the authorities’ narratives do not have to make sense, or stand up to any type of real scrutiny. Their primary purpose is not to deceive, but rather, to demarcate an ideological territory of acceptable belief, expression, and emotion to which “normal” people are expected to conform. Beyond the boundaries of that territory lies the outer darkness of “abnormality” and “extremism,” which no “normal” person wants anything to do with. To avoid being cast into this outer darkness, people will conform to the most absurd and paranoid nonsense you can possibly imagine. The global capitalist ruling classes know this, which is why they don’t care if you disprove their narratives on Twitter or some “disreputable” website they’ve rendered virtually invisible anyway. They are not debating the facts or the truth … they are marking the boundaries of that “normal” territory, and herding frightened people into it. This article in Haaretz by Alexander Reid Ross, a lecturer at Portland State University who has been publishing (or attempting to publish) a series of rather paranoid pieces smearing people he disagrees with as neo-Strasserist sleeper agents, provides an extreme but clear example of what Western governments and the corporate media have been doing, albeit on a much subtler level. Read the piece through if you can possibly stand it. You will be told how people like Michael Savage, Rania Khalek, Alex Jones, Breitbart’s entire UK office, Cenk Ugyur, Max Blumenthal, Caitlin Johnstone, Glenn Greenwald, The Nation‘s Stephen F. Cohen, Tucker Carlson, Vanessa Beeley (again), various British fascists, Jeremy Corbyn, and that modern-day Rasputin, Lyndon LaRouche, are all parts of the insidious Putin-Nazi plot to … well, I’m not sure, exactly, but I’m pretty sure it has something to do with killing Jews and gassing babies. Would you like to be associated with people like that … Assad-loving, Putin-supporting Nazis? No? Then stop and think very carefully before sharing, “liking,” or commenting on this essay. --C. J. Hopkins is an award-winning American playwright, novelist and satirist based in Berlin. His plays are published by Bloomsbury Publishing (UK) and Broadway Play Publishing (USA). His debut novel, ZONE 23, is published by Snoggsworthy, Swaine & Cormorant. He can reached at cjhopkins.com or consentfactory.org. ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Apr 26 18:50:42 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 18:50:42 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Rally opposing Dershowitz tonight Message-ID: Message from the group ZAHRA "Join us in solidarity to protest the appearance of Alan Dershowitz who will be speaking at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. Dershowitz is a Zionist, denies war crimes, and supports US intervention in Syria. He will be speaking at Foellinger Auditorium starting at 7:30 pm " Professor Francis Boyle from the College of Law at the University of Illinois will be speaking” on behalf of human rights at the protest. Co-sponsors: ISO, SASA, Socialist Alternative, PSL APR26 Going Alan Dershowitz? More like Alan DershNOwitz Thu 6:45 PM CDT · Foellinger Auditorium · Urbana, IL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Thu Apr 26 20:08:15 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 20:08:15 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? Message-ID: [https://www.liberationnews.org/wp-content/themes/libnews-mega/images/logo.png] Newspaper of the Party for Socialism and Liberation * HOME * SECTIONS » * PUBLICATIONS » * PSL » * DONATE » * Navigate to... Home Sections » – Militant Journalism – Analysis – Video – Archives – Español Publications » – Breaking the Chains Magazine – PSL Books PSL » – About – Join the PSL – Become a Sustainer – Sign Up for Emails – Contact – Party Statements – Upcoming Events – Liberation School – Int’l Bulletin Donate » – Join the Sustainers GUEST ANALYSIS Download PDF flyer Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? By Sergio Alejandro Gómez Apr 26, 2018 6418 [Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua?] Public domain image. Liberation News translation from original article in Granma, Cuba’s daily newspaper. April 23, 2018 What seemed like a simple citizen protest over the increase in social security contributions in Nicaragua, culminated last week in a wave of violence that leaves at least a dozen dead and hundreds of establishments destroyed. Given the level of organization shown, the extent of the damage and the participation of criminal groups, key questions arise: What is the origin of the demonstrations? Who are behind the most violent groups? The demonstrations took off in the middle of last week as a reaction to a reform of the Nicaraguan Institute of Social Security (INSS). The measure of the Sandinista Executive planned to increase the contribution of workers from 6.25% to 7%, while employers would go from paying 19% to 22.5%. The objective of the decision was to correct the INSS deficit and make it sustainable in the medium and long terms. Groups of students and retirees, who receive their pensions from the same fund, staged the first public displays of discontent, but in a few hours the events led to massive looting and attacks against ambulances, hospitals, clinics, businesses, cars, government institutions and even family homes. The scenes of the last days contrast with the statistics that show Nicaragua as one of the safest and most peaceful countries in Central America. The Sandinista authorities consider that, beyond a “civic protest”, what Nicaragua is experiencing is a right-wing plan to incite criminals and obtain political revenue through instability and the artificial creation of a scenario of shortages and scarcity of basic products. Comandante Daniel Ortega said last Sunday that those who broke into the shopping centers were not “poor people” but “those interested in unleashing chaos.” The Government reversed the reform of social security and was willing to establish a dialogue to find a solution to the INSS deficit. However, the leaders of the protests assured that they will not stop their actions.”Social security is no longer the issue, but freedom of expression, corruption, and many others,” said the president of the Broad Front for Democracy (FAD), Violeta Granera. When a “minority wants to impose its will by force,” said Comandante Ortega, “the opposition is no longer healthy and becomes a factor of destabilization.” The president also criticized the local rightwing seeking the support of U.S. politicians with the objective of “financing destabilization plans.” It is striking that the mobilization for the protests of recent days has been carried out through social networks with methods very similar to those of the Non- Conventional War (GNC). One of the basic principles of the GNC, perfected by Washington to overthrow governments that are not to its liking, is to get society to confront the government with any excuse, strengthen the conflict from abroad and tighten the siege at the diplomatic level. As part of the destabilizing actions, Washington ordered the departure of the relatives of its diplomats in Managua on Monday and reduced services in its embassy. Likewise, the State Department renewed today the petition to its citizens to “reconsider trips” to Nicaragua. Meanwhile, the villagers began to organize themselves to defend neighborhoods, businesses, welfare centers and public spaces against the vandalism of violent groups. Likewise, the army was deployed to guarantee the protection of government buildings and facilities vital for citizenship. The climate of peace and coexistence in Nicaragua attracts a growing number of tourists and foreign investors. The Central American country boasts one of the highest economic growth rates in the region, around 5% of the annual Gross Domestic Product. “The objective of those who are directing these criminal plans is to destroy the image of Nicaragua,” criticized Comandante Ortega. However, he was confident that Nicaraguans will not repeat the mistakes of the past and will choose the path of dialogue instead of that of war. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bjornsona at ameritech.net Fri Apr 27 01:12:31 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (bjornsona at ameritech.net) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 20:12:31 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Message-ID: D. Repeating lies that Palestinians don't want to negotiate 2 statesSent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------From: Karen Aram via Peace-discussDate: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 3:08 PMTo: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Cc: Subject:[Peace-discuss] Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? Newspaper of the Party for Socialism and Liberation HOME  SECTIONS »  PUBLICATIONS »  PSL »  DONATE »   Navigate to...  Home  Sections »    – Militant Journalism    – Analysis    – Video    – Archives    – Español  Publications »    – Breaking the Chains Magazine    – PSL Books  PSL »    – About    – Join the PSL    – Become a Sustainer    – Sign Up for Emails    – Contact    – Party Statements    – Upcoming Events    – Liberation School    – Int’l Bulletin  Donate »    – Join the Sustainers GUEST ANALYSIS Download PDF flyer Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? By Sergio Alejandro Gómez Apr 26, 2018 6418 Public domain image. Liberation News translation  from original article in Granma, Cuba’s daily newspaper. April 23, 2018 What seemed like a simple citizen protest over the increase in social security contributions in Nicaragua, culminated last week in a wave of violence that leaves at least a dozen dead and hundreds of establishments destroyed. Given the level of organization shown, the extent of the damage and the participation of criminal groups, key questions arise: What is the origin of the demonstrations? Who are behind the most violent groups? The demonstrations took off in the middle of last week as a reaction to a reform of the Nicaraguan Institute of Social Security (INSS). The measure of the Sandinista Executive planned to increase the contribution of workers from 6.25% to 7%, while employers would go from paying 19% to 22.5%. The objective of the decision was to correct the INSS deficit and make it sustainable in the medium and long terms. Groups of students and retirees, who receive their pensions from the same fund, staged the first public displays of discontent, but in a few hours the events led to massive looting and attacks against ambulances, hospitals, clinics, businesses, cars, government institutions and even family homes. The scenes of the last days contrast with the statistics that show Nicaragua as one of the safest and most peaceful countries in Central America. The Sandinista authorities consider that, beyond a “civic protest”, what Nicaragua is experiencing is a right-wing plan to incite criminals and obtain political revenue through instability and the artificial creation of a scenario of shortages and scarcity of basic products. Comandante Daniel Ortega said last Sunday that those who broke into the shopping centers were not “poor people” but “those interested in unleashing chaos.” The Government reversed the reform of social security and was willing to establish a dialogue to find a solution to the INSS deficit. However, the leaders of the protests assured that they will not stop their actions.”Social security is no longer the issue, but freedom of expression, corruption, and many others,” said the president of the Broad Front for Democracy (FAD), Violeta Granera. When a “minority wants to impose its will by force,” said Comandante Ortega, “the opposition is no longer healthy and becomes a factor of destabilization.” The president also criticized the local rightwing seeking the support of U.S. politicians with the objective of “financing destabilization plans.” It is striking that the mobilization for the protests of recent days has been carried out through social networks with methods very similar to those of the Non- Conventional War (GNC). One of the basic principles of the GNC, perfected by Washington to overthrow governments that are not to its liking, is to get society to confront the government with any excuse, strengthen the conflict from abroad and tighten the siege at the diplomatic level. As part of the destabilizing actions, Washington ordered the departure of the relatives of its diplomats in Managua on Monday and reduced services in its embassy. Likewise, the State Department renewed today the petition to its citizens to “reconsider trips” to Nicaragua. Meanwhile, the villagers began to organize themselves to defend neighborhoods, businesses, welfare centers and public spaces against the vandalism of violent groups. Likewise, the army was deployed to guarantee the protection of government buildings and facilities vital for citizenship. The climate of peace and coexistence in Nicaragua attracts a growing number of tourists and foreign investors. The Central American country boasts one of the highest economic growth rates in the region, around 5% of the annual Gross Domestic Product. “The objective of those who are directing these criminal plans is to destroy the image of Nicaragua,” criticized Comandante Ortega. However, he was confident that Nicaraguans will not repeat the mistakes of the past and will choose the path of dialogue instead of that of war. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bjornsona at ameritech.net Fri Apr 27 01:19:53 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (bjornsona at ameritech.net) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 20:19:53 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Message-ID: Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century.  Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 statesSent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------From: Karen Aram via Peace-discussDate: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 3:08 PMTo: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Cc: Subject:[Peace-discuss] Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? Newspaper of the Party for Socialism and Liberation HOME  SECTIONS »  PUBLICATIONS »  PSL »  DONATE »   Navigate to...  Home  Sections »    – Militant Journalism    – Analysis    – Video    – Archives    – Español  Publications »    – Breaking the Chains Magazine    – PSL Books  PSL »    – About    – Join the PSL    – Become a Sustainer    – Sign Up for Emails    – Contact    – Party Statements    – Upcoming Events    – Liberation School    – Int’l Bulletin  Donate »    – Join the Sustainers GUEST ANALYSIS Download PDF flyer Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? By Sergio Alejandro Gómez Apr 26, 2018 6418 Public domain image. Liberation News translation  from original article in Granma, Cuba’s daily newspaper. April 23, 2018 What seemed like a simple citizen protest over the increase in social security contributions in Nicaragua, culminated last week in a wave of violence that leaves at least a dozen dead and hundreds of establishments destroyed. Given the level of organization shown, the extent of the damage and the participation of criminal groups, key questions arise: What is the origin of the demonstrations? Who are behind the most violent groups? The demonstrations took off in the middle of last week as a reaction to a reform of the Nicaraguan Institute of Social Security (INSS). The measure of the Sandinista Executive planned to increase the contribution of workers from 6.25% to 7%, while employers would go from paying 19% to 22.5%. The objective of the decision was to correct the INSS deficit and make it sustainable in the medium and long terms. Groups of students and retirees, who receive their pensions from the same fund, staged the first public displays of discontent, but in a few hours the events led to massive looting and attacks against ambulances, hospitals, clinics, businesses, cars, government institutions and even family homes. The scenes of the last days contrast with the statistics that show Nicaragua as one of the safest and most peaceful countries in Central America. The Sandinista authorities consider that, beyond a “civic protest”, what Nicaragua is experiencing is a right-wing plan to incite criminals and obtain political revenue through instability and the artificial creation of a scenario of shortages and scarcity of basic products. Comandante Daniel Ortega said last Sunday that those who broke into the shopping centers were not “poor people” but “those interested in unleashing chaos.” The Government reversed the reform of social security and was willing to establish a dialogue to find a solution to the INSS deficit. However, the leaders of the protests assured that they will not stop their actions.”Social security is no longer the issue, but freedom of expression, corruption, and many others,” said the president of the Broad Front for Democracy (FAD), Violeta Granera. When a “minority wants to impose its will by force,” said Comandante Ortega, “the opposition is no longer healthy and becomes a factor of destabilization.” The president also criticized the local rightwing seeking the support of U.S. politicians with the objective of “financing destabilization plans.” It is striking that the mobilization for the protests of recent days has been carried out through social networks with methods very similar to those of the Non- Conventional War (GNC). One of the basic principles of the GNC, perfected by Washington to overthrow governments that are not to its liking, is to get society to confront the government with any excuse, strengthen the conflict from abroad and tighten the siege at the diplomatic level. As part of the destabilizing actions, Washington ordered the departure of the relatives of its diplomats in Managua on Monday and reduced services in its embassy. Likewise, the State Department renewed today the petition to its citizens to “reconsider trips” to Nicaragua. Meanwhile, the villagers began to organize themselves to defend neighborhoods, businesses, welfare centers and public spaces against the vandalism of violent groups. Likewise, the army was deployed to guarantee the protection of government buildings and facilities vital for citizenship. The climate of peace and coexistence in Nicaragua attracts a growing number of tourists and foreign investors. The Central American country boasts one of the highest economic growth rates in the region, around 5% of the annual Gross Domestic Product. “The objective of those who are directing these criminal plans is to destroy the image of Nicaragua,” criticized Comandante Ortega. However, he was confident that Nicaraguans will not repeat the mistakes of the past and will choose the path of dialogue instead of that of war. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bjornsona at ameritech.net Fri Apr 27 01:29:42 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (bjornsona at ameritech.net) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 20:29:42 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Message-ID: <6fqr58ohucesb2jv82r1r7sv.1524792007758@email.lge.com> Spoke a lot about horrors of DBS and how unfair it is. How DBS would take jobs from all the Palestinians working in Israel. How Israel is oh, maybe, 215th in the world in human rights violations. China, North Korea, Cuba, Iran, so much worse in human rights violations than Israel.How Israel o#ers courts, other civil rights for Palestinians.  How Palestinians could be just fine, live in peace on the West Bank, have half of Jerusalem.  If they would just come to the negotiating table. As he says, "Ah, Gaza,  who knows what's going to happen there." Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------From: Karen Aram via Peace-discussDate: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 3:08 PMTo: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Cc: Subject:[Peace-discuss] Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? Newspaper of the Party for Socialism and Liberation HOME  SECTIONS »  PUBLICATIONS »  PSL »  DONATE »   Navigate to...  Home  Sections »    – Militant Journalism    – Analysis    – Video    – Archives    – Español  Publications »    – Breaking the Chains Magazine    – PSL Books  PSL »    – About    – Join the PSL    – Become a Sustainer    – Sign Up for Emails    – Contact    – Party Statements    – Upcoming Events    – Liberation School    – Int’l Bulletin  Donate »    – Join the Sustainers GUEST ANALYSIS Download PDF flyer Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? By Sergio Alejandro Gómez Apr 26, 2018 6418 Public domain image. Liberation News translation  from original article in Granma, Cuba’s daily newspaper. April 23, 2018 What seemed like a simple citizen protest over the increase in social security contributions in Nicaragua, culminated last week in a wave of violence that leaves at least a dozen dead and hundreds of establishments destroyed. Given the level of organization shown, the extent of the damage and the participation of criminal groups, key questions arise: What is the origin of the demonstrations? Who are behind the most violent groups? The demonstrations took off in the middle of last week as a reaction to a reform of the Nicaraguan Institute of Social Security (INSS). The measure of the Sandinista Executive planned to increase the contribution of workers from 6.25% to 7%, while employers would go from paying 19% to 22.5%. The objective of the decision was to correct the INSS deficit and make it sustainable in the medium and long terms. Groups of students and retirees, who receive their pensions from the same fund, staged the first public displays of discontent, but in a few hours the events led to massive looting and attacks against ambulances, hospitals, clinics, businesses, cars, government institutions and even family homes. The scenes of the last days contrast with the statistics that show Nicaragua as one of the safest and most peaceful countries in Central America. The Sandinista authorities consider that, beyond a “civic protest”, what Nicaragua is experiencing is a right-wing plan to incite criminals and obtain political revenue through instability and the artificial creation of a scenario of shortages and scarcity of basic products. Comandante Daniel Ortega said last Sunday that those who broke into the shopping centers were not “poor people” but “those interested in unleashing chaos.” The Government reversed the reform of social security and was willing to establish a dialogue to find a solution to the INSS deficit. However, the leaders of the protests assured that they will not stop their actions.”Social security is no longer the issue, but freedom of expression, corruption, and many others,” said the president of the Broad Front for Democracy (FAD), Violeta Granera. When a “minority wants to impose its will by force,” said Comandante Ortega, “the opposition is no longer healthy and becomes a factor of destabilization.” The president also criticized the local rightwing seeking the support of U.S. politicians with the objective of “financing destabilization plans.” It is striking that the mobilization for the protests of recent days has been carried out through social networks with methods very similar to those of the Non- Conventional War (GNC). One of the basic principles of the GNC, perfected by Washington to overthrow governments that are not to its liking, is to get society to confront the government with any excuse, strengthen the conflict from abroad and tighten the siege at the diplomatic level. As part of the destabilizing actions, Washington ordered the departure of the relatives of its diplomats in Managua on Monday and reduced services in its embassy. Likewise, the State Department renewed today the petition to its citizens to “reconsider trips” to Nicaragua. Meanwhile, the villagers began to organize themselves to defend neighborhoods, businesses, welfare centers and public spaces against the vandalism of violent groups. Likewise, the army was deployed to guarantee the protection of government buildings and facilities vital for citizenship. The climate of peace and coexistence in Nicaragua attracts a growing number of tourists and foreign investors. The Central American country boasts one of the highest economic growth rates in the region, around 5% of the annual Gross Domestic Product. “The objective of those who are directing these criminal plans is to destroy the image of Nicaragua,” criticized Comandante Ortega. However, he was confident that Nicaraguans will not repeat the mistakes of the past and will choose the path of dialogue instead of that of war. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Fri Apr 27 01:35:25 2018 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 20:35:25 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: <11C700C9-EFE9-48BB-8F97-E34ED0AD2A37@illinois.edu> Message-ID: You (et al.) should read what Chomsky says, e.g. "Trumpism is one of many manifestations of the effects of the neoliberal policies of the past generation. These have led to extreme concentration of wealth along with stagnation for the majority. There have been repeated crashes of the deregulated financial institutions, each worse than the last. Bursting bubbles have been followed by huge public bailouts for the perpetrators while the victims have been abandoned. Globalization has been designed to set working people throughout the world in competition with one another while private capital is lavished with benefits. Democratic institutions have eroded ... all of this has led to anger, bitterness, often desperation -- one remarkable effect is the increasing mortality among middle-age whites ..., analyzed as "deaths of despair," a phenomenon unknown in functioning societies. While there are variations from place to place, some features are common. One is the decline of the centrist parties that have long dominated political life, as we see in election after election. In the US, in recent years, whenever candidates arose from the base in the Republican primaries, the established powers were able to crush them and impose their own choice: Mitt Romney, most recently. In 2016, for the first time they were unable to do so, but they quickly rallied to the winning candidate, who proved quite willing to front for the more brutal wing of the traditional party. The real surprise in the election was the Sanders campaign, which broke with a long tradition of pretty much bought elections, and was stopped only by machinations of the Obama-Clinton party managers. The Democratic Party is now split between the donor-oriented New Democrat managers and a growing activist social democratic base…” That suggests a possible political program. —CGE > On Apr 26, 2018, at 7:04 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > > Read Chomsky. fab > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 7:02 AM > To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan Dershowitz > > Francis— > > I hope you’ll take the trouble to explain to a yet unknowing world, why Dershowitz’ views are wrong - rather than simply denouncing the College of Law. > > —CGE > > >> On Apr 26, 2018, at 6:57 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> DershNOwitz >> LOL! Made my day. And it is only beginning. Fab. >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> Law Building >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> Champaign IL 61820 USA >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> (personal comments only) >> >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] >> On Behalf Of Karen Aram via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:43 AM >> To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >> ; peace >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Protest in solidarity, the appearance of Alan >> Dershowitz >> >> >> Message from the group ZAHRA >> "Join us in solidarity to protest the appearance of Alan Dershowitz who will be speaking at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. Dershowitz is a Zionist, denies war crimes, and supports US intervention in Syria. He will be speaking at Foellinger Auditorium starting at 7:30 pm " >> Professor Francis Boyle from the College of Law at the University of Illinois will be speaking” on behalf of human rights at the protest. >> Co-sponsors: ISO, SASA, Socialist Alternative, PSL >> APR26 >> Going >> Alan Dershowitz? More like Alan DershNOwitz Thu 6:45 PM CDT · >> Foellinger Auditorium · Urbana, IL Brandon and Monika are interested >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > From bjornsona at ameritech.net Fri Apr 27 01:41:29 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (bjornsona at ameritech.net) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 20:41:29 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Message-ID: D blaming Israel's move to the right on Israel letting "a million Russians" in. Says Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and if Israel moved to Mars, the Middle East would be MORE volatile because of oh, Iran, the Russians, Syria. Says Isr Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------From: Karen Aram via Peace-discussDate: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 3:08 PMTo: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Cc: Subject:[Peace-discuss] Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? Newspaper of the Party for Socialism and Liberation HOME  SECTIONS »  PUBLICATIONS »  PSL »  DONATE »   Navigate to...  Home  Sections »    – Militant Journalism    – Analysis    – Video    – Archives    – Español  Publications »    – Breaking the Chains Magazine    – PSL Books  PSL »    – About    – Join the PSL    – Become a Sustainer    – Sign Up for Emails    – Contact    – Party Statements    – Upcoming Events    – Liberation School    – Int’l Bulletin  Donate »    – Join the Sustainers GUEST ANALYSIS Download PDF flyer Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? By Sergio Alejandro Gómez Apr 26, 2018 6418 Public domain image. Liberation News translation  from original article in Granma, Cuba’s daily newspaper. April 23, 2018 What seemed like a simple citizen protest over the increase in social security contributions in Nicaragua, culminated last week in a wave of violence that leaves at least a dozen dead and hundreds of establishments destroyed. Given the level of organization shown, the extent of the damage and the participation of criminal groups, key questions arise: What is the origin of the demonstrations? Who are behind the most violent groups? The demonstrations took off in the middle of last week as a reaction to a reform of the Nicaraguan Institute of Social Security (INSS). The measure of the Sandinista Executive planned to increase the contribution of workers from 6.25% to 7%, while employers would go from paying 19% to 22.5%. The objective of the decision was to correct the INSS deficit and make it sustainable in the medium and long terms. Groups of students and retirees, who receive their pensions from the same fund, staged the first public displays of discontent, but in a few hours the events led to massive looting and attacks against ambulances, hospitals, clinics, businesses, cars, government institutions and even family homes. The scenes of the last days contrast with the statistics that show Nicaragua as one of the safest and most peaceful countries in Central America. The Sandinista authorities consider that, beyond a “civic protest”, what Nicaragua is experiencing is a right-wing plan to incite criminals and obtain political revenue through instability and the artificial creation of a scenario of shortages and scarcity of basic products. Comandante Daniel Ortega said last Sunday that those who broke into the shopping centers were not “poor people” but “those interested in unleashing chaos.” The Government reversed the reform of social security and was willing to establish a dialogue to find a solution to the INSS deficit. However, the leaders of the protests assured that they will not stop their actions.”Social security is no longer the issue, but freedom of expression, corruption, and many others,” said the president of the Broad Front for Democracy (FAD), Violeta Granera. When a “minority wants to impose its will by force,” said Comandante Ortega, “the opposition is no longer healthy and becomes a factor of destabilization.” The president also criticized the local rightwing seeking the support of U.S. politicians with the objective of “financing destabilization plans.” It is striking that the mobilization for the protests of recent days has been carried out through social networks with methods very similar to those of the Non- Conventional War (GNC). One of the basic principles of the GNC, perfected by Washington to overthrow governments that are not to its liking, is to get society to confront the government with any excuse, strengthen the conflict from abroad and tighten the siege at the diplomatic level. As part of the destabilizing actions, Washington ordered the departure of the relatives of its diplomats in Managua on Monday and reduced services in its embassy. Likewise, the State Department renewed today the petition to its citizens to “reconsider trips” to Nicaragua. Meanwhile, the villagers began to organize themselves to defend neighborhoods, businesses, welfare centers and public spaces against the vandalism of violent groups. Likewise, the army was deployed to guarantee the protection of government buildings and facilities vital for citizenship. The climate of peace and coexistence in Nicaragua attracts a growing number of tourists and foreign investors. The Central American country boasts one of the highest economic growth rates in the region, around 5% of the annual Gross Domestic Product. “The objective of those who are directing these criminal plans is to destroy the image of Nicaragua,” criticized Comandante Ortega. However, he was confident that Nicaraguans will not repeat the mistakes of the past and will choose the path of dialogue instead of that of war. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Apr 27 01:47:27 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 01:47:27 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. Hey! Hey! Dershowitz say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------ From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 3:08 PM To: Pea ce-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); Cc: Subject:[Peace-discuss] Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? [https://www.liberationnews.org/wp-content/themes/libnews-mega/images/logo.png] Newspaper of the Party for Socialism and Liberation < path d="M22 5.16c-.406-.054-1.806-.16-3.43-.16-3.4 0-5.733 1.825-5.733 5.17v2.882H9v3.913h3.837V27h4.604V16.965h3.823l.587-3.913h-4.41v-2.5c0-1.123.347-1.903 2.198-1.903H22V5.16z" fill-rule="evenodd">< /svg> [Sign up for email updates] · HOME · SECTIONS » · PUBLICATIONS » · PSL » · DONATE » · [Search] [Navigate to... \/] GUEST ANALYSIS Download PDF flyer Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? By Sergio Alejandro Gómez Apr 26, 2018 6418 [Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua?] Public domain image. Liberation News translation from original article in Granma, Cuba’s daily newspaper. April 23, 2018 What seemed like a simple citizen protest over the increase in social security contributions in Nicaragua, culminated last week in a wave of violence that leaves at least a dozen dead and hundreds of establishments destroyed. Given the level of organization shown, the extent of the damage and the participation of criminal groups, key questions arise: What is the origin of the demonstrations? Who are behind the most violent groups? The demonstrations took off in the middle of last week as a reaction to a reform of the Nicaraguan Institute of Social Security (INSS). The measure of the Sandinista Executive planned to increase the contribution of workers from 6.25% to 7%, while employers would go from paying 19% to 22.5%. The objective of the decision was to correct the INSS deficit and make it sustainable in the medium and long terms. Groups of students and retirees, who receive their pensions from the same fund, staged the first public displays of discontent, but in a few hours the events led to massive looting and attacks against ambulances, hospitals, clinics, businesses, cars, government institutions and even family homes. The scenes of the last days contrast with the statistics that show Nicaragua as one of the safest and most peaceful countries in Central America. The Sandinista authorities consider that, beyond a “civic protest”, what Nicaragua is experiencing is a right-wing plan to incite criminals and obtain political revenue through instability and the artificial creation of a scenario of shortages and scarcity of basic products. Comandante Daniel Ortega said last Sunday that those who broke into the shopping centers were not “poor people” but “those interested in unleashing chaos.” The Government reversed the reform of social security and was willing to establish a dialogue to find a solution to the INSS deficit. However, the leaders of the protests assured that they will not stop their actions.”Social security is no longer the issue, but freedom of expression, corruption, and many others,” said the president of the Broad Front for Democracy (FAD), Violeta Granera. When a “minority wants to impose its will by force,” said Comandante Ortega, “the opposition is no longer healthy and becomes a factor of destabilization.” The president also criticized the local rightwing seeking the support of U.S. politicians with the objective of “financing destabilization plans.” It is striking that the mobilization for the protests of recent days has been carried out through social networks with methods very similar to those of the Non- Conventional War (GNC). One of the basic principles of the GNC, perfected by Washington to overthrow governments that are not to its liking, is to get society to confront the government with any excuse, strengthen the conflict from abroad and tighten the siege at the diplomatic level. As part of the destabilizing actions, Washington ordered the departure of the relatives of its diplomats in Managua on Monday and reduced services in its embassy. Likewise, the State Department renewed today the petition to its citizens to “reconsider trips” to Nicaragua. Meanwhile, the villagers began to organize themselves to defend neighborhoods, businesses, welfare centers and public spaces against the vandalism of violent groups. Likewise, the army was deployed to guarantee the protection of government buildings and facilities vital for citizenship. The climate of peace and coexistence in Nicaragua attracts a growing number of tourists and foreign investors. The Central American country boasts one of the highest economic growth rates in the region, around 5% of the annual Gross Domestic Product. “The objective of those who are directing these criminal plans is to destroy the image of Nicaragua,” criticized Comandante Ortega. However, he was confident that Nicaraguans will not repeat the mistakes of the past and will choose the path of dialogue instead of that of war. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Apr 27 02:06:23 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 02:06:23 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz References: Message-ID: Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM To: 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. Hey! Hey! Dershowitz say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------ From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 3:08 PM To: Pea ce-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); Cc: Subject:[Peace-discuss] Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? [https://www.liberationnews.org/wp-content/themes/libnews-mega/images/logo.png] Newspaper of the Party for Socialism and Liberation < path d="M22 5.16c-.406-.054-1.806-.16-3.43-.16-3.4 0-5.733 1.825-5.733 5.17v2.882H9v3.913h3.837V27h4.604V16.965h3.823l.587-3.913h-4.41v-2.5c0-1.123.347-1.903 2.198-1.903H22V5.16z" fill-rule="evenodd">< /svg> [Sign up for email updates] · HOME · SECTIONS » · PUBLICATIONS » · PSL » · DONATE » · [Search] [Navigate to... \/] GUEST ANALYSIS Download PDF flyer Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? By Sergio Alejandro Gómez Apr 26, 2018 6418 [Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua?] Public domain image. Liberation News translation from original article in Granma, Cuba’s daily newspaper. April 23, 2018 What seemed like a simple citizen protest over the increase in social security contributions in Nicaragua, culminated last week in a wave of violence that leaves at least a dozen dead and hundreds of establishments destroyed. Given the level of organization shown, the extent of the damage and the participation of criminal groups, key questions arise: What is the origin of the demonstrations? Who are behind the most violent groups? The demonstrations took off in the middle of last week as a reaction to a reform of the Nicaraguan Institute of Social Security (INSS). The measure of the Sandinista Executive planned to increase the contribution of workers from 6.25% to 7%, while employers would go from paying 19% to 22.5%. The objective of the decision was to correct the INSS deficit and make it sustainable in the medium and long terms. Groups of students and retirees, who receive their pensions from the same fund, staged the first public displays of discontent, but in a few hours the events led to massive looting and attacks against ambulances, hospitals, clinics, businesses, cars, government institutions and even family homes. The scenes of the last days contrast with the statistics that show Nicaragua as one of the safest and most peaceful countries in Central America. The Sandinista authorities consider that, beyond a “civic protest”, what Nicaragua is experiencing is a right-wing plan to incite criminals and obtain political revenue through instability and the artificial creation of a scenario of shortages and scarcity of basic products. Comandante Daniel Ortega said last Sunday that those who broke into the shopping centers were not “poor people” but “those interested in unleashing chaos.” The Government reversed the reform of social security and was willing to establish a dialogue to find a solution to the INSS deficit. However, the leaders of the protests assured that they will not stop their actions.”Social security is no longer the issue, but freedom of expression, corruption, and many others,” said the president of the Broad Front for Democracy (FAD), Violeta Granera. When a “minority wants to impose its will by force,” said Comandante Ortega, “the opposition is no longer healthy and becomes a factor of destabilization.” The president also criticized the local rightwing seeking the support of U.S. politicians with the objective of “financing destabilization plans.” It is striking that the mobilization for the protests of recent days has been carried out through social networks with methods very similar to those of the Non- Conventional War (GNC). One of the basic principles of the GNC, perfected by Washington to overthrow governments that are not to its liking, is to get society to confront the government with any excuse, strengthen the conflict from abroad and tighten the siege at the diplomatic level. As part of the destabilizing actions, Washington ordered the departure of the relatives of its diplomats in Managua on Monday and reduced services in its embassy. Likewise, the State Department renewed today the petition to its citizens to “reconsider trips” to Nicaragua. Meanwhile, the villagers began to organize themselves to defend neighborhoods, businesses, welfare centers and public spaces against the vandalism of violent groups. Likewise, the army was deployed to guarantee the protection of government buildings and facilities vital for citizenship. The climate of peace and coexistence in Nicaragua attracts a growing number of tourists and foreign investors. The Central American country boasts one of the highest economic growth rates in the region, around 5% of the annual Gross Domestic Product. “The objective of those who are directing these criminal plans is to destroy the image of Nicaragua,” criticized Comandante Ortega. However, he was confident that Nicaraguans will not repeat the mistakes of the past and will choose the path of dialogue instead of that of war. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bjornsona at ameritech.net Fri Apr 27 02:53:08 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (bjornsona at ameritech.net) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:53:08 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Message-ID: <72gckmei9vaaetpp4ibtm00j.1524797151551@email.lge.com> Funniest part of the evening besides D. going around to the back door (like the help) was when a man asked D. if he, D.,  had ever been wrong about anything or if there was anything he would change about something he did. D. struggled to think of something- could not come up with anything. Finally recovered and said, "well you could ask my first wife." I lost my temper when he said if we protesters cared about Palestinians, we would care more about the Kurds, because there are more of them. Just like Israel cares about the Kurds. So we had a bit of a yelling match across the room. So I am in hiding now... ;)  Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------From: Boyle, Francis ADate: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 9:06 PMTo: bjornsona at ameritech.net;Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Cc: Karen Aram;Subject:RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab.   Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only)   From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM To: 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' >; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz   Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. Hey! Hey! Dershowitz say! How many kids! Did you kill today!   Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this  Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. Fab.   Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only)   From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz     Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century.  Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone   ------ Original message------ From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 3:08 PM To: Pea ce-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); Cc: Subject:[Peace-discuss] Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua?   Newspaper of the Party for Socialism and Liberation   < path d="M22 5.16c-.406-.054-1.806-.16-3.43-.16-3.4 0-5.733 1.825-5.733 5.17v2.882H9v3.913h3.837V27h4.604V16.965h3.823l.587-3.913h-4.41v-2.5c0-1.123.347-1.903 2.198-1.903H22V5.16z" fill-rule="evenodd">< /svg> [Sign up for email updates] ·       HOME  ·       SECTIONS »  ·       PUBLICATIONS »  ·       PSL »  ·       DONATE » ·          [Search] [Navigate to... \/] GUEST ANALYSIS Download PDF flyer Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? By Sergio Alejandro Gómez Apr 26, 2018 6418 Public domain image. Liberation News translation  from original article in Granma, Cuba’s daily newspaper. April 23, 2018 What seemed like a simple citizen protest over the increase in social security contributions in Nicaragua, culminated last week in a wave of violence that leaves at least a dozen dead and hundreds of establishments destroyed. Given the level of organization shown, the extent of the damage and the participation of criminal groups, key questions arise: What is the origin of the demonstrations? Who are behind the most violent groups? The demonstrations took off in the middle of last week as a reaction to a reform of the Nicaraguan Institute of Social Security (INSS). The measure of the Sandinista Executive planned to increase the contribution of workers from 6.25% to 7%, while employers would go from paying 19% to 22.5%. The objective of the decision was to correct the INSS deficit and make it sustainable in the medium and long terms. Groups of students and retirees, who receive their pensions from the same fund, staged the first public displays of discontent, but in a few hours the events led to massive looting and attacks against ambulances, hospitals, clinics, businesses, cars, government institutions and even family homes. The scenes of the last days contrast with the statistics that show Nicaragua as one of the safest and most peaceful countries in Central America. The Sandinista authorities consider that, beyond a “civic protest”, what Nicaragua is experiencing is a right-wing plan to incite criminals and obtain political revenue through instability and the artificial creation of a scenario of shortages and scarcity of basic products. Comandante Daniel Ortega said last Sunday that those who broke into the shopping centers were not “poor people” but “those interested in unleashing chaos.” The Government reversed the reform of social security and was willing to establish a dialogue to find a solution to the INSS deficit. However, the leaders of the protests assured that they will not stop their actions.”Social security is no longer the issue, but freedom of expression, corruption, and many others,” said the president of the Broad Front for Democracy (FAD), Violeta Granera. When a “minority wants to impose its will by force,” said Comandante Ortega, “the opposition is no longer healthy and becomes a factor of destabilization.” The president also criticized the local rightwing seeking the support of U.S. politicians with the objective of “financing destabilization plans.” It is striking that the mobilization for the protests of recent days has been carried out through social networks with methods very similar to those of the Non- Conventional War (GNC). One of the basic principles of the GNC, perfected by Washington to overthrow governments that are not to its liking, is to get society to confront the government with any excuse, strengthen the conflict from abroad and tighten the siege at the diplomatic level. As part of the destabilizing actions, Washington ordered the departure of the relatives of its diplomats in Managua on Monday and reduced services in its embassy. Likewise, the State Department renewed today the petition to its citizens to “reconsider trips” to Nicaragua. Meanwhile, the villagers began to organize themselves to defend neighborhoods, businesses, welfare centers and public spaces against the vandalism of violent groups. Likewise, the army was deployed to guarantee the protection of government buildings and facilities vital for citizenship. The climate of peace and coexistence in Nicaragua attracts a growing number of tourists and foreign investors. The Central American country boasts one of the highest economic growth rates in the region, around 5% of the annual Gross Domestic Product. “The objective of those who are directing these criminal plans is to destroy the image of Nicaragua,” criticized Comandante Ortega. However, he was confident that Nicaraguans will not repeat the mistakes of the past and will choose the path of dialogue instead of that of war.   -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Apr 27 02:59:07 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 02:59:07 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: <72gckmei9vaaetpp4ibtm00j.1524797151551@email.lge.com> References: <72gckmei9vaaetpp4ibtm00j.1524797151551@email.lge.com> Message-ID: "well you could ask my first wife." Yeah, if I remember correctly, off the top of my head and without researching it, she committed suicide.Some say Dersh drove her to it. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: bjornsona at ameritech.net [mailto:bjornsona at ameritech.net] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:53 PM To: Boyle, Francis A ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Cc: Karen Aram Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Funniest part of the evening besides D. going around to the back door (like the help) was when a man asked D. if he, D., had ever been wrong about anything or if there was anything he would change about something he did. D. struggled to think of something- could not come up with anything. Finally recovered and said, "well you could ask my first wife." I lost my temper when he said if we protesters cared about Palestinians, we would care more about the Kurds, because there are more of them. Just like Israel cares about the Kurds. So we had a bit of a yelling match across the room. So I am in hiding now... ;) Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------ From: Boyle, Francis A Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 9:06 PM To: bjornsona at ameritech.net;Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); Cc: Karen Aram; Subject:RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM To: 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' >; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. Hey! Hey! Dershowitz say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------ From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 3:08 PM To: Pea ce-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); Cc: Subject:[Peace-discuss] Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? [https://www.liberationnews.org/wp-content/themes/libnews-mega/images/logo.png] Newspaper of the Party for Socialism and Liberation < path d="M22 5.16c-.406-.054-1.806-.16-3.43-.16-3.4 0-5.733 1.825-5.733 5.17v2.882H9v3.913h3.837V27h4.604V16.965h3.823l.587-3.913h-4.41v-2.5c0-1.123.347-1.903 2.198-1.903H22V5.16z" fill-rule="evenodd">< /svg> [Sign up for email updates] • HOME • SECTIONS » • PUBLICATIONS » • PSL » • DONATE » • [Search] [Navigate to... \/] GUEST ANALYSIS Download PDF flyer Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? By Sergio Alejandro Gómez Apr 26, 2018 6418 [Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua?] Public domain image. Liberation News translation from original article in Granma, Cuba’s daily newspaper. April 23, 2018 What seemed like a simple citizen protest over the increase in social security contributions in Nicaragua, culminated last week in a wave of violence that leaves at least a dozen dead and hundreds of establishments destroyed. Given the level of organization shown, the extent of the damage and the participation of criminal groups, key questions arise: What is the origin of the demonstrations? Who are behind the most violent groups? The demonstrations took off in the middle of last week as a reaction to a reform of the Nicaraguan Institute of Social Security (INSS). The measure of the Sandinista Executive planned to increase the contribution of workers from 6.25% to 7%, while employers would go from paying 19% to 22.5%. The objective of the decision was to correct the INSS deficit and make it sustainable in the medium and long terms. Groups of students and retirees, who receive their pensions from the same fund, staged the first public displays of discontent, but in a few hours the events led to massive looting and attacks against ambulances, hospitals, clinics, businesses, cars, government institutions and even family homes. The scenes of the last days contrast with the statistics that show Nicaragua as one of the safest and most peaceful countries in Central America. The Sandinista authorities consider that, beyond a “civic protest”, what Nicaragua is experiencing is a right-wing plan to incite criminals and obtain political revenue through instability and the artificial creation of a scenario of shortages and scarcity of basic products. Comandante Daniel Ortega said last Sunday that those who broke into the shopping centers were not “poor people” but “those interested in unleashing chaos.” The Government reversed the reform of social security and was willing to establish a dialogue to find a solution to the INSS deficit. However, the leaders of the protests assured that they will not stop their actions.”Social security is no longer the issue, but freedom of expression, corruption, and many others,” said the president of the Broad Front for Democracy (FAD), Violeta Granera. When a “minority wants to impose its will by force,” said Comandante Ortega, “the opposition is no longer healthy and becomes a factor of destabilization.” The president also criticized the local rightwing seeking the support of U.S. politicians with the objective of “financing destabilization plans.” It is striking that the mobilization for the protests of recent days has been carried out through social networks with methods very similar to those of the Non- Conventional War (GNC). One of the basic principles of the GNC, perfected by Washington to overthrow governments that are not to its liking, is to get society to confront the government with any excuse, strengthen the conflict from abroad and tighten the siege at the diplomatic level. As part of the destabilizing actions, Washington ordered the departure of the relatives of its diplomats in Managua on Monday and reduced services in its embassy. Likewise, the State Department renewed today the petition to its citizens to “reconsider trips” to Nicaragua. Meanwhile, the villagers began to organize themselves to defend neighborhoods, businesses, welfare centers and public spaces against the vandalism of violent groups. Likewise, the army was deployed to guarantee the protection of government buildings and facilities vital for citizenship. The climate of peace and coexistence in Nicaragua attracts a growing number of tourists and foreign investors. The Central American country boasts one of the highest economic growth rates in the region, around 5% of the annual Gross Domestic Product. “The objective of those who are directing these criminal plans is to destroy the image of Nicaragua,” criticized Comandante Ortega. However, he was confident that Nicaraguans will not repeat the mistakes of the past and will choose the path of dialogue instead of that of war. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 03:13:51 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 22:13:51 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: <72gckmei9vaaetpp4ibtm00j.1524797151551@email.lge.com> References: <72gckmei9vaaetpp4ibtm00j.1524797151551@email.lge.com> Message-ID: You could have quoted a worse war-criminal than Dershowitz: “...it was Kissinger, as Nixon's security adviser, who visited Tehran in May 1972, and agreed to do the Shah the favor of organizing a Kurdish insurrection against Saddam, with whom the Shah was having trouble. The Kurdish leader, Mustafa Barzani, believed implicitly in Kissinger's guarantee, and he even gave his patron three rugs and a gold and pearl necklace as gifts when Kissinger got married. The uprising was going great guns (literally) for three years, with the Kurds sustaining thousands of casualties. Then suddenly the Shah and Saddam patched up their differences and the Shah agreed to have the CIA call off the $16 million operation. Arms and supplies to the Kurds were abruptly cut off and Mr. Barzani's forces were left to Saddam's tender mercies. Thousands tried to flee into Iran and were sent back. Barzani wrote to Kissinger, 'Your Excellency, the United States has a moral and political responsibility to our people.' There was no reply. In 1975, Kissinger was asked before the House Intelligence Committee how he could justify this betrayal. He replied, 'Covert action should not be confused with missionary work.’" For the current situation, see "A Call to Defend Rojava,” signed by Chomsky and others, in the current NYRB: . —CGE > On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:53 PM, bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Funniest part of the evening besides D. going around to the back door (like the help) was when a man asked D. if he, D., had ever been wrong about anything or if there was anything he would change about something he did. D. struggled to think of something- could not come up with anything. Finally recovered and said, "well you could ask my first wife." > I lost my temper when he said if we protesters cared about Palestinians, we would care more about the Kurds, because there are more of them. Just like Israel cares about the Kurds. So we had a bit of a yelling match across the room. So I am in hiding now... ;) > > Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone From galliher at illinois.edu Fri Apr 27 03:49:30 2018 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 22:49:30 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4623DD70-5B6A-4F42-9929-7B5B19796AD0@illinois.edu> Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE > On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. > > Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. > > > > Francis A. Boyle > > Law Building > > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > > Champaign IL 61820 USA > > 217-333-7954 (phone) > > 217-244-1478 (fax) > > (personal comments only) > > > > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM > To: 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > > > > Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. > > Hey! Hey! > > Dershowitz say! > > How many kids! > > Did you kill today! > > > > Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. > > Fab. > > > > Francis A. Boyle > > Law Building > > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > > Champaign IL 61820 USA > > 217-333-7954 (phone) > > 217-244-1478 (fax) > > (personal comments only) > > > > From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM > To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > > > > > > Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states > > Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Apr 27 04:08:38 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 04:08:38 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: <4623DD70-5B6A-4F42-9929-7B5B19796AD0@illinois.edu> References: <4623DD70-5B6A-4F42-9929-7B5B19796AD0@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. > On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: > > Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? > > If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE > > >> On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. >> >> Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. >> >> >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> >> Law Building >> >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> >> Champaign IL 61820 USA >> >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> >> (personal comments only) >> >> >> >> From: Boyle, Francis A >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM >> To: 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >> Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz >> >> >> >> Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. >> >> Hey! Hey! >> >> Dershowitz say! >> >> How many kids! >> >> Did you kill today! >> >> >> >> Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. >> >> Fab. >> >> >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> >> Law Building >> >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> >> Champaign IL 61820 USA >> >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> >> (personal comments only) >> >> >> >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM >> To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz >> >> >> >> >> >> Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states >> >> Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone >> >> > From cgestabrook at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 04:15:23 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C. G. Estabrook ) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 23:15:23 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: <4623DD70-5B6A-4F42-9929-7B5B19796AD0@illinois.edu> Message-ID: I’m sorry you feel that way, Karen. I think some real issues are involved. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 26, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. > >> On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: >> >> Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? >> >> If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE >> >> >>> On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. >>> >>> Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. >>> >>> >>> >>> Francis A. Boyle >>> >>> Law Building >>> >>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >>> >>> Champaign IL 61820 USA >>> >>> 217-333-7954 (phone) >>> >>> 217-244-1478 (fax) >>> >>> (personal comments only) >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Boyle, Francis A >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM >>> To: 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >>> Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz >>> >>> >>> >>> Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. >>> >>> Hey! Hey! >>> >>> Dershowitz say! >>> >>> How many kids! >>> >>> Did you kill today! >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. >>> >>> Fab. >>> >>> >>> >>> Francis A. Boyle >>> >>> Law Building >>> >>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >>> >>> Champaign IL 61820 USA >>> >>> 217-333-7954 (phone) >>> >>> 217-244-1478 (fax) >>> >>> (personal comments only) >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM >>> To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss >>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states >>> >>> Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From bjornsona at ameritech.net Fri Apr 27 04:36:12 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (bjornsona at ameritech.net) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 23:36:12 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Message-ID: I will have to think about your question, Carl. I was not at the earlier presentation at the business school unfortunately. I am under the impression many AWARE and other protesters were at both- hard work- harder than I could do.Most of the signs said U. S. Out of the Middle East or Out of Syria; there was the now famous Warmonger sign , and Imagine Peace. So the anti-war theme was evident. D. was clear on his stance on war with Syria being fine and war with Iran probably inevitable- because, you know, Iran might get a nuclear weapon. Part of the audience was there from Chabad. Part of the audience looked my age or older. Definitely some (not a lot) Chinese, Korean, Hispanic, Palestinian, black students listening as D. announced that their countries of ethnic heritage had worse human rights records.So maybe 2/3 in his camp or under his spell as he told dinner table anecdotes whenever he did not want to answer a question. What bothers me is of course what bothers everyone. Put protes ters over in a corner, keep everyone nice and neat, contained, say that everyone needs to let someone have free speech and then give the platform to someone representing the death of free speech. Orwellian. So when D.said that no one out in the protests knew anything about the real situation in Israel, I yelled that we had an International Rights lawyer on our side. It does sound a bit like a playground fight- he started it. Except that is what they are- bullies with weapons.  Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------From: Karen AramDate: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 11:08 PMTo: Carl G. Estabrook;Cc: Francis A Boyle;bjornsona at ameritech.net;Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. > On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: > > Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? > > If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE > > >> On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. >> >> Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. >> >> >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> >> Law Building >> >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> >> Champaign IL 61820 USA >> >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> >> (personal comments only) >> >> >> >> From: Boyle, Francis A >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM >> To: 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >> Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz >> >> >> >> Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. >> >> Hey! Hey! >> >> Dershowitz say! >> >> How many kids! >> >> Did you kill today! >> >> >> >> Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. >> >> Fab. >> >> >> >> Francis A. Boyle >> >> Law Building >> >> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >> >> Champaign IL 61820 USA >> >> 217-333-7954 (phone) >> >> 217-244-1478 (fax) >> >> (personal comments only) >> >> >> >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM >> To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz >> >> >> >> >> >> Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states >> >> Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Apr 27 04:37:43 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 04:37:43 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: <4623DD70-5B6A-4F42-9929-7B5B19796AD0@illinois.edu> Message-ID: So do I, everytime we do anything opposing war, if it’s not your idea, you look for every opportunity to belittle and criticize. By the way, special credit goes to Harry Mickalide, for sitting on the stairs to the entrance, with his sign. Some people thanked him for doing what he was doing, but some people were rude and very, very ugly. Thanks to Stuart Levy, who filmed the protest, not as much fun, but more productive, than chanting. The speakers, and the many people who attended in solidarity with those who made the effort to attend and voice their disapproval of this man, who represents and is part of the system, of the most reprehensible nation in the world. On Apr 26, 2018, at 21:15, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: I’m sorry you feel that way, Karen. I think some real issues are involved. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook > wrote: Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM To: 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' >; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. Hey! Hey! Dershowitz say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Fri Apr 27 11:34:39 2018 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 06:34:39 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9EF0A245-F77A-4394-ADFE-D1FE5CC09DCA@illinois.edu> Hard work indeed, and I admire those willing to make the effort to demonstrate against US crimes and their apologists. But the bromide is right, that the cure for bad speech is more speech - like yours. That’s what we should be encouraging. There should be answers to what Dershowitz was saying. With your permission, I’lll quote (anonymously) your comments on the evening on 'News from Neptune’ today. —CGE > On Apr 26, 2018, at 11:36 PM, bjornsona at ameritech.net wrote: > > I will have to think about your question, Carl. I was not at the earlier presentation at the business school unfortunately. I am under the impression many AWARE and other protesters were at both- hard work- harder than I could do.Most of the signs said U. S. Out of the Middle East or Out of Syria; there was the now famous Warmonger sign , and Imagine Peace. So the anti-war theme was evident. D. was clear on his stance on war with Syria being fine and war with Iran probably inevitable- because, you know, Iran might get a nuclear weapon. Part of the audience was there from Chabad. Part of the audience looked my age or older. Definitely some (not a lot) Chinese, Korean, Hispanic, Palestinian, black students listening as D. announced that their countries of ethnic heritage had worse human rights records.So maybe 2/3 in his camp or under his spell as he told dinner table anecdotes whenever he did not want to answer a question. What bothers me is of course what bothers everyone. Put protesters over in a corner, keep everyone nice and neat, contained, say that everyone needs to let someone have free speech and then give the platform to someone representing the death of free speech. Orwellian. So when D.said that no one out in the protests knew anything about the real situation in Israel, I yelled that we had an International Rights lawyer on our side. It does sound a bit like a playground fight- he started it. Except that is what they are- bullies with weapons. > > Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > ------ Original message------ > From: Karen Aram > Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 11:08 PM > To: Carl G. Estabrook; > Cc: Francis A Boyle;bjornsona at ameritech.net;Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > > Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. > > > On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook > wrote: > > > > Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? > > > > If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE > > > > > >> On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: > >> > >> Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. > >> > >> Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Boyle, Francis A > >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM > >> To: > 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > > >> Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > >> > >> Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. > >> > >> Hey! Hey! > >> > >> Dershowitz say! > >> > >> How many kids! > >> > >> Did you kill today! > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. > >> > >> Fab. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto > :peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net > ] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss > >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM > >> To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > > >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > >> > >> > >> Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states > >> From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Apr 27 12:05:16 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 12:05:16 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: <9EF0A245-F77A-4394-ADFE-D1FE5CC09DCA@illinois.edu> References: <9EF0A245-F77A-4394-ADFE-D1FE5CC09DCA@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Anne, Thats very good. Thank you for your “Medea Benjamin” act, so proud you yelled at him for his statement, I was pleased you attended so you could relate what took place, nauseating though it must have been. Too bad it wasn’t caught on film and doubtful it will change the minds of his supporters attending the program. Those very same, very ugly people making accusations of hate towards Palestinians. To clarify, no we were not at any other program during the day, only this one in the evening. There were other demonstrators, marchers passing through the other end of the Quad, they were the “Take Back the Night Group” perhaps, chanting for a “safe” campus. Carl, of course is ignoring the fact that the protestors made speeches, well written, well thought out speeches clarifying our wars, and Dershowitz influence and support for them. He will of course promote you yelling at Dershowitz, while diminishing the very “International Rights lawyer” you referred to, as well as the very well informed young people making speeches in order to influence the American people. I pose the question, why is one who claims to be anti-war so insistent on not uniting, not growing the movement, by continually criticizing others who peacefully demonstrate against war? Why would one opposing war not attend or join with some of these groups? Why would this same person insist on “free speech” for neo nazi’s, government paid trolls, and nasty individuals as we have had attacking those who advocate for peace, attacking all those who make the effort to save lives, yet choose to criticize those whose cause, he claims to support? Engaging in this type of discourse, is such a waste of time, fighting among ourselves is exactly what the government wants us to do, divide and conquer. I will say no more. > On Apr 27, 2018, at 04:34, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: > > Hard work indeed, and I admire those willing to make the effort to demonstrate against US crimes and their apologists. But the bromide is right, that the cure for bad speech is more speech - like yours. That’s what we should be encouraging. There should be answers to what Dershowitz was saying. > > With your permission, I’lll quote (anonymously) your comments on the evening on 'News from Neptune’ today. —CGE > > >> On Apr 26, 2018, at 11:36 PM, bjornsona at ameritech.net wrote: >> >> I will have to think about your question, Carl. I was not at the earlier presentation at the business school unfortunately. I am under the impression many AWARE and other protesters were at both- hard work- harder than I could do.Most of the signs said U. S. Out of the Middle East or Out of Syria; there was the now famous Warmonger sign , and Imagine Peace. So the anti-war theme was evident. D. was clear on his stance on war with Syria being fine and war with Iran probably inevitable- because, you know, Iran might get a nuclear weapon. Part of the audience was there from Chabad. Part of the audience looked my age or older. Definitely some (not a lot) Chinese, Korean, Hispanic, Palestinian, black students listening as D. announced that their countries of ethnic heritage had worse human rights records.So maybe 2/3 in his camp or under his spell as he told dinner table anecdotes whenever he did not want to answer a question. What bothers me is of course what bothers everyone. Put protesters over in a corner, keep everyone nice and neat, contained, say that everyone needs to let someone have free speech and then give the platform to someone representing the death of free speech. Orwellian. So when D.said that no one out in the protests knew anything about the real situation in Israel, I yelled that we had an International Rights lawyer on our side. It does sound a bit like a playground fight- he started it. Except that is what they are- bullies with weapons. >> >> Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone >> >> ------ Original message------ >> From: Karen Aram >> Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 11:08 PM >> To: Carl G. Estabrook; >> Cc: Francis A Boyle;bjornsona at ameritech.net;Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); >> Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz >> >> Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. >> >>> On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook >> wrote: >>> >>> Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? >>> >>> If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. >>>> >>>> Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Boyle, Francis A >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM >>>> To: >> 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >> >>>> Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz >>>> >>>> Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. >>>> >>>> Hey! Hey! >>>> >>>> Dershowitz say! >>>> >>>> How many kids! >>>> >>>> Did you kill today! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. >>>> >>>> Fab. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Peace-discuss [mailto >> :peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net >> ] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM >>>> To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss >> >>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz >>>> >>>> >>>> Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states >>>> > From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Apr 27 12:19:08 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 12:19:08 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Dershowitz--NO! In-Reply-To: References: <16307028dc7-c8c-17434@webjas-vae165.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: Bobbie came over to talk to me. I twice told him that he was a disgrace and he should get out of here. He did. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 7:16 AM To: Mildred O'brien Cc: karenaram at hotmail.com; Boyle, Francis A Subject: Re: Dershowitz--NO! “Hell is empty / And all the devils are here.” > On Apr 27, 2018, at 7:09 AM, Mildred O'brien wrote: > > Also of note at the Auditorium demonstration making his appearance on the front porch (altho he must have entered the hall at the stage door with honored guests) > was none other than Illinois Assoc. Appeals Judge Robert Steigman in appropriate black attire (sans robes) who descended regally from the steps for a rapid perusal of the opposition in his familiar intimidating manner reminiscent of VietNam protests. I may have been the only one who recognized him; he quickly returned to the hall when his presence didn't elicit expected reaction, or notice. > > Midge > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > To: bjornsona > CC: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) ; Karen Aram > Sent: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 6:36 am > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > > Hard work indeed, and I admire those willing to make the effort to demonstrate against US crimes and their apologists. But the bromide is right, that the cure for bad speech is more speech - like yours. That’s what we should be encouraging. There should be answers to what Dershowitz was saying. With your permission, I’lll quote (anonymously) your comments on the evening on 'News from Neptune’ today. —CGE > On Apr 26, 2018, at 11:36 PM, bjornsona at ameritech.net wrote: > > I will have to think about your question, Carl. I was not at the earlier presentation at the business school unfortunately. I am under the impression many AWARE and other protesters were at both- hard work- harder than I could do.Most of the signs said U. S. Out of the Middle East or Out of Syria; there was the now famous Warmonger sign , and Imagine Peace. So the anti-war theme was evident. D. was clear on his stance on war with Syria being fine and war with Iran probably inevitable- because, you know, Iran might get a nuclear weapon. Part of the audience was there from Chabad. Part of the audience looked my age or older. Definitely some (not a lot) Chinese, Korean, Hispanic, Palestinian, black students listening as D. announced that their countries of ethnic heritage had worse human rights records.So maybe 2/3 in his camp or under his spell as he told dinner table anecdotes whenever he did not want to answer a question. What bothers me is of course what bothers everyone. Put protesters over in a corner, keep everyone nice and neat, contained, say that everyone needs to let someone have free speech and then give the platform to someone representing the death of free speech. Orwellian. So when D.said that no one out in the protests knew anything about the real situation in Israel, I yelled that we had an International Rights lawyer on our side. It does sound a bit like a playground fight- he started it. Except that is what they are- bullies with weapons. > > Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > ------ Original message------ > From: Karen Aram > Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 11:08 PM > To: Carl G. Estabrook; > Cc: Francis A Boyle;bjornsona at ameritech.net;Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > > Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. > > > On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook > wrote: > > > > Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? > > > > If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE > > > > > >> On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: > >> > >> Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. > >> > >> Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Boyle, Francis A > >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM > >> To: > 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > > >> Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > >> > >> Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. > >> > >> Hey! Hey! > >> > >> Dershowitz say! > >> > >> How many kids! > >> > >> Did you kill today! > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. > >> > >> Fab. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto > :peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net > ] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss > >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM > >> To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > > >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > >> > >> > >> Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. 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Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 7:16 AM To: Mildred O'brien Cc: karenaram at hotmail.com; Boyle, Francis A Subject: Re: Dershowitz--NO! “Hell is empty / And all the devils are here.” > On Apr 27, 2018, at 7:09 AM, Mildred O'brien wrote: > > Also of note at the Auditorium demonstration making his appearance on the front porch (altho he must have entered the hall at the stage door with honored guests) > was none other than Illinois Assoc. Appeals Judge Robert Steigman in appropriate black attire (sans robes) who descended regally from the steps for a rapid perusal of the opposition in his familiar intimidating manner reminiscent of VietNam protests. I may have been the only one who recognized him; he quickly returned to the hall when his presence didn't elicit expected reaction, or notice. > > Midge > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > To: bjornsona > CC: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) ; Karen Aram > Sent: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 6:36 am > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > > Hard work indeed, and I admire those willing to make the effort to demonstrate against US crimes and their apologists. But the bromide is right, that the cure for bad speech is more speech - like yours. That’s what we should be encouraging. There should be answers to what Dershowitz was saying. With your permission, I’lll quote (anonymously) your comments on the evening on 'News from Neptune’ today. —CGE > On Apr 26, 2018, at 11:36 PM, bjornsona at ameritech.net wrote: > > I will have to think about your question, Carl. I was not at the earlier presentation at the business school unfortunately. I am under the impression many AWARE and other protesters were at both- hard work- harder than I could do.Most of the signs said U. S. Out of the Middle East or Out of Syria; there was the now famous Warmonger sign , and Imagine Peace. So the anti-war theme was evident. D. was clear on his stance on war with Syria being fine and war with Iran probably inevitable- because, you know, Iran might get a nuclear weapon. Part of the audience was there from Chabad. Part of the audience looked my age or older. Definitely some (not a lot) Chinese, Korean, Hispanic, Palestinian, black students listening as D. announced that their countries of ethnic heritage had worse human rights records.So maybe 2/3 in his camp or under his spell as he told dinner table anecdotes whenever he did not want to answer a question. What bothers me is of course what bothers everyone. Put protesters over in a corner, keep everyone nice and neat, contained, say that everyone needs to let someone have free speech and then give the platform to someone representing the death of free speech. Orwellian. So when D.said that no one out in the protests knew anything about the real situation in Israel, I yelled that we had an International Rights lawyer on our side. It does sound a bit like a playground fight- he started it. Except that is what they are- bullies with weapons. > > Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > ------ Original message------ > From: Karen Aram > Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 11:08 PM > To: Carl G. Estabrook; > Cc: Francis A Boyle;bjornsona at ameritech.net;Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > > Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. > > > On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook > wrote: > > > > Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? > > > > If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE > > > > > >> On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: > >> > >> Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. > >> > >> Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Boyle, Francis A > >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM > >> To: > 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > > >> Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > >> > >> Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. > >> > >> Hey! Hey! > >> > >> Dershowitz say! > >> > >> How many kids! > >> > >> Did you kill today! > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. > >> > >> Fab. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Peace-discuss [mailto > :peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net > ] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss > >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM > >> To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > > >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > >> > >> > >> Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states > >> _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From cgestabrook at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 12:35:37 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 07:35:37 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: <9EF0A245-F77A-4394-ADFE-D1FE5CC09DCA@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <228A935F-CB77-410E-A998-DF4385C3479E@gmail.com> 百花齐放，百家争鸣 "Let a hundred flowers bloom; let a hundred schools of thought contend” Mao Zedong quoted a poem referring to the Warring States era (5th cent. BC) when numerous schools of thought competed for ideological, not military, supremacy. Historically, Confucianism and Taoism had gained prominence, and socialism would now stand to its test, he suggested. > On Apr 27, 2018, at 7:05 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Anne, > > Thats very good. Thank you for your “Medea Benjamin” act, so proud you yelled at him for his statement, I was pleased you attended so you could relate what took place, nauseating though it must have been. Too bad it wasn’t caught on film and doubtful it will change the minds of his supporters attending the program. Those very same, very ugly people making accusations of hate towards Palestinians. > > To clarify, no we were not at any other program during the day, only this one in the evening. There were other demonstrators, marchers passing through the other end of the Quad, they were the “Take Back the Night Group” perhaps, chanting for a “safe” campus. > > Carl, of course is ignoring the fact that the protestors made speeches, well written, well thought out speeches clarifying our wars, and Dershowitz influence and support for them. He will of course promote you yelling at Dershowitz, while diminishing the very “International Rights lawyer” you referred to, as well as the very well informed young people making speeches in order to influence the American people. > > I pose the question, why is one who claims to be anti-war so insistent on not uniting, not growing the movement, by continually criticizing others who peacefully demonstrate against war? Why would one opposing war not attend or join with some of these groups? Why would this same person insist on “free speech” for neo nazi’s, government paid trolls, and nasty individuals as we have had attacking those who advocate for peace, attacking all those who make the effort to save lives, yet choose to criticize those whose cause, he claims to support? > > Engaging in this type of discourse, is such a waste of time, fighting among ourselves is exactly what the government wants us to do, divide and conquer. > > I will say no more. > > >> On Apr 27, 2018, at 04:34, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: >> >> Hard work indeed, and I admire those willing to make the effort to demonstrate against US crimes and their apologists. But the bromide is right, that the cure for bad speech is more speech - like yours. That’s what we should be encouraging. There should be answers to what Dershowitz was saying. >> >> With your permission, I’lll quote (anonymously) your comments on the evening on 'News from Neptune’ today. —CGE >> >> >>> On Apr 26, 2018, at 11:36 PM, bjornsona at ameritech.net wrote: >>> >>> I will have to think about your question, Carl. I was not at the earlier presentation at the business school unfortunately. I am under the impression many AWARE and other protesters were at both- hard work- harder than I could do.Most of the signs said U. S. Out of the Middle East or Out of Syria; there was the now famous Warmonger sign , and Imagine Peace. So the anti-war theme was evident. D. was clear on his stance on war with Syria being fine and war with Iran probably inevitable- because, you know, Iran might get a nuclear weapon. Part of the audience was there from Chabad. Part of the audience looked my age or older. Definitely some (not a lot) Chinese, Korean, Hispanic, Palestinian, black students listening as D. announced that their countries of ethnic heritage had worse human rights records.So maybe 2/3 in his camp or under his spell as he told dinner table anecdotes whenever he did not want to answer a question. What bothers me is of course what bothers everyone. Put protesters over in a corner, keep everyone nice and neat, contained, say that everyone needs to let someone have free speech and then give the platform to someone representing the death of free speech. Orwellian. So when D.said that no one out in the protests knew anything about the real situation in Israel, I yelled that we had an International Rights lawyer on our side. It does sound a bit like a playground fight- he started it. Except that is what they are- bullies with weapons. >>> >>> Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone >>> >>> ------ Original message------ >>> From: Karen Aram >>> Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 11:08 PM >>> To: Carl G. Estabrook; >>> Cc: Francis A Boyle;bjornsona at ameritech.net;Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); >>> Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz >>> >>> Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. >>> >>>> On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? >>>> >>>> If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. >>>>> >>>>> Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Boyle, Francis A >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM >>>>> To: >>> 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >>> >>>>> Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz >>>>> >>>>> Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. >>>>> >>>>> Hey! Hey! >>>>> >>>>> Dershowitz say! >>>>> >>>>> How many kids! >>>>> >>>>> Did you kill today! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. >>>>> >>>>> Fab. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Peace-discuss [mailto >>> :peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net >>> ] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM >>>>> To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss >>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states >>>>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net Fri Apr 27 13:33:04 2018 From: davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net (David Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 08:33:04 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: WORLD LABOR HOUR - SAT. APRIL 28th Message-ID: <00a201d3de2c$4653a310$d2fae930$@comcast.net> WORLD LABOR HOUR SATURDAY APRIL 28th 11 AM - 1 PM U.S. Central Time 104.5 FM and webcast LIVE worldwide at ; www.wrfu.net Special program dedicated to May Day - International Labor Day, and MERCEDES MARTINEZ - President of the Puerto Rican Teachers Union will be calling in to the program to give a report about the neo-liberal shock doctrine austerity that is being imposed upon the people of Puerto Rico. 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Being slightly Luddite, I forget online is where the majority opinion can be changed in hours! The venue was beautiful for filming, everyone positioned just right, Harry Mickalide holding the exact center spot on the steps so he could not be avoided. Everyone using their own talents- we may not be cohesive yet we are getting the job done bit by bit. There were students in there keeping quiet who disagreed with the majority. The flyers were good too- the interviewer read straight off the back off the flyer and asked D. what he thought of it. Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------From: Karen Aram via Peace-discussDate: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 11:38 PMTo: C. G. Estabrook;Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Harry Mickalide;Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz So do I, everytime we do anything opposing war, if it’s not your idea, you look for every opportunity to belittle and criticize.  By the way, special credit goes to Harry Mickalide, for sitting on the stairs to the entrance, with his sign. Some people thanked him for doing what he was doing, but some people were rude and very, very ugly.  Thanks to Stuart Levy, who filmed the protest, not as much fun, but more productive, than chanting. The speakers, and the many people who attended in solidarity with those who made the effort to attend and voice their disapproval of this man, who represents and is part of the system, of the most reprehensible nation in the world. On Apr 26, 2018, at 21:15, C. G. Estabrook wrote: I’m sorry you feel that way, Karen. I think some real issues are involved. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak?  If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A  Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM To: 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. Hey! Hey! Dershowitz say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this  Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century.  Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Apr 27 14:28:02 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 14:28:02 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It all came together. And Karen was our real Master of Ceremonies. Kudos to all! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:17 AM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss ; C. G. Estabrook Cc: Harry Mickalide Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz I am looking forward to watching the speeches and the protest online. Being slightly Luddite, I forget online is where the majority opinion can be changed in hours! The venue was beautiful for filming, everyone positioned just right, Harry Mickalide holding the exact center spot on the steps so he could not be avoided. Everyone using their own talents- we may not be cohesive yet we are getting the job done bit by bit. There were students in there keeping quiet who disagreed with the majority. The flyers were good too- the interviewer read straight off the back off the flyer and asked D. what he thought of it. Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------ From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 11:38 PM To: C. G. Estabrook; Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Harry Mickalide; Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz So do I, everytime we do anything opposing war, if it’s not your idea, you look for every opportunity to belittle and criticize. By the way, special credit goes to Harry Mickalide, for sitting on the stairs to the entrance, with his sign. Some people thanked him for doing what he was doing, but some people were rude and very, very ugly. Thanks to Stuart Levy, who filmed the protest, not as much fun, but more productive, than chanting. The speakers, and the many people who attended in solidarity with those who made the effort to attend and voice their disapproval of this man, who represents and is part of the system, of the most reprehensible nation in the world. On Apr 26, 2018, at 21:15, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: I’m sorry you feel that way, Karen. I think some real issues are involved. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook > wrote: Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM To: 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' >; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. Hey! Hey! Dershowitz say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Apr 27 14:35:01 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 14:35:01 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frances, NO, thank you, but no. I was not MC in anyway, I did not speak, nor was I responsible for bringing this together with the many young people attending, speaking, etc/ This was PSL, the Party for Socialist Liberation/ANSWER with a couple people/groups co-sponsoring. They deserve the credit. They are not on this Peace List. Yes, there were some AWARE people present, but the majority were PSL. On Apr 27, 2018, at 07:28, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: It all came together. And Karen was our real Master of Ceremonies. Kudos to all! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss > On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:17 AM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss >; C. G. Estabrook > Cc: Harry Mickalide > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz I am looking forward to watching the speeches and the protest online. Being slightly Luddite, I forget online is where the majority opinion can be changed in hours! The venue was beautiful for filming, everyone positioned just right, Harry Mickalide holding the exact center spot on the steps so he could not be avoided. Everyone using their own talents- we may not be cohesive yet we are getting the job done bit by bit. There were students in there keeping quiet who disagreed with the majority. The flyers were good too- the interviewer read straight off the back off the flyer and asked D. what he thought of it. Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------ From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 11:38 PM To: C. G. Estabrook; Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Harry Mickalide; Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz So do I, everytime we do anything opposing war, if it’s not your idea, you look for every opportunity to belittle and criticize. By the way, special credit goes to Harry Mickalide, for sitting on the stairs to the entrance, with his sign. Some people thanked him for doing what he was doing, but some people were rude and very, very ugly. Thanks to Stuart Levy, who filmed the protest, not as much fun, but more productive, than chanting. The speakers, and the many people who attended in solidarity with those who made the effort to attend and voice their disapproval of this man, who represents and is part of the system, of the most reprehensible nation in the world. On Apr 26, 2018, at 21:15, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: I’m sorry you feel that way, Karen. I think some real issues are involved. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook > wrote: Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM To: 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' >; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. Hey! Hey! Dershowitz say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Apr 27 14:36:45 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 14:36:45 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I stand corrected. Thanks to everyone involved. Yeah, Harry showed a lot of guts up there. fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:35 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) ; Harry Mickalide Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Frances, NO, thank you, but no. I was not MC in anyway, I did not speak, nor was I responsible for bringing this together with the many young people attending, speaking, etc/ This was PSL, the Party for Socialist Liberation/ANSWER with a couple people/groups co-sponsoring. They deserve the credit. They are not on this Peace List. Yes, there were some AWARE people present, but the majority were PSL. On Apr 27, 2018, at 07:28, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: It all came together. And Karen was our real Master of Ceremonies. Kudos to all! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss > On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:17 AM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss >; C. G. Estabrook > Cc: Harry Mickalide > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz I am looking forward to watching the speeches and the protest online. Being slightly Luddite, I forget online is where the majority opinion can be changed in hours! The venue was beautiful for filming, everyone positioned just right, Harry Mickalide holding the exact center spot on the steps so he could not be avoided. Everyone using their own talents- we may not be cohesive yet we are getting the job done bit by bit. There were students in there keeping quiet who disagreed with the majority. The flyers were good too- the interviewer read straight off the back off the flyer and asked D. what he thought of it. Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------ From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 11:38 PM To: C. G. Estabrook; Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Harry Mickalide; Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz So do I, everytime we do anything opposing war, if it’s not your idea, you look for every opportunity to belittle and criticize. By the way, special credit goes to Harry Mickalide, for sitting on the stairs to the entrance, with his sign. Some people thanked him for doing what he was doing, but some people were rude and very, very ugly. Thanks to Stuart Levy, who filmed the protest, not as much fun, but more productive, than chanting. The speakers, and the many people who attended in solidarity with those who made the effort to attend and voice their disapproval of this man, who represents and is part of the system, of the most reprehensible nation in the world. On Apr 26, 2018, at 21:15, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: I’m sorry you feel that way, Karen. I think some real issues are involved. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook > wrote: Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM To: 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' >; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. Hey! Hey! Dershowitz say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Apr 27 14:52:28 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 14:52:28 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: National Security Archive Sues CIA for Gina Haspel Torture Cables References: <1650137906.-555582303@salsa4.salsa4DB.mail.salsalabs.com> Message-ID: Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:52 AM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: FW: National Security Archive Sues CIA for Gina Haspel Torture Cables Yo Bob! How is that Petition by Law Professors Advocating Torture in Support of Haspel coming? If you send it to me I am sure I can get a lot of my “colleagues” around here to sign it along with CIA/Mossad/MikeyMoore/DeanHurricaneHeidiHurd and all of Dersh’s Buddies on the Faculty who invited him in here to speak last night: Hey! Hey! Dershowitz Say! How Many Kids! Did you kill today! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: The National Security Archive > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:54 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Subject: National Security Archive Sues CIA for Gina Haspel Torture Cables [http://salsa4.salsalabs.com/o/51540/images/logo-slogan.jpg] National Security Archive Sues CIA for Gina Haspel Torture Cables Documents at Issue Cited in Senate Report and by CIA Inspector General Cables Describe Detention and Torture of Al-Nashiri in November 2002 View the posting [http://salsa4.salsalabs.com/o/51540/images/1b.jpg]Washington, D.C., April 27, 2018 – The National Security Archive filed suit under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) against the CIA today in federal district court in Washington. The case seeks 12 specific cables from November and December 2002 that were authored or authorized by Gina Haspel, the acting director of the CIA as of this morning. 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URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 14:54:09 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 09:54:09 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What did Harry’s sign say? Is there a copy of the flyer available? “...the interviewer read straight off the back off the flyer and asked D. what he thought of it.” How did the exchange go? Thanks again for your accounts. —CGE > On Apr 27, 2018, at 9:16 AM, bjornsona at ameritech.net wrote: > > I am looking forward to watching the speeches and the protest online. Being slightly Luddite, I forget online is where the majority opinion can be changed in hours! The venue was beautiful for filming, everyone positioned just right, Harry Mickalide holding the exact center spot on the steps so he could not be avoided. Everyone using their own talents- we may not be cohesive yet we are getting the job done bit by bit. There were students in there keeping quiet who disagreed with the majority. The flyers were good too- the interviewer read straight off the back off the flyer and asked D. what he thought of it. > > Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone From stephenf1113 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 27 15:16:38 2018 From: stephenf1113 at yahoo.com (Stephen Francis) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 15:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] #GreatReturnMarch ... gleeful IDF snipers murdering protesters References: <1611347712.1567392.1524842198021.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1611347712.1567392.1524842198021@mail.yahoo.com> 1 dead, 170 injured as IDF clashes with #GreatReturnMarch protesters – Pal. health ministry | | | | | | | | | | | 1 dead, 170 injured as IDF clashes with #GreatReturnMarch protesters – ... 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Yeah, that’s exactly why we Rallied Against Dersh and his C-U Buddies last night. They are All Pathetic! And the Palestinian Bloodshed will only get worse as we near Nakba Day on May 15. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 10:17 AM To: Peace-discuss Subject: [Peace-discuss] #GreatReturnMarch ... gleeful IDF snipers murdering protesters 1 dead, 170 injured as IDF clashes with #GreatReturnMarch protesters – Pal. health ministry [cid:image001.png at 01D3DE11.8A091E20] [Text Box:] 1 dead, 170 injured as IDF clashes with #GreatReturnMarch protesters – ... Protesters have gathered along the Gaza border as the ‘Great March of Return’ demonstrations enter a fifth week.... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 10:22 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] #GreatReturnMarch ... gleeful IDF snipers murdering protesters https://goo.gl/images/r7CFYE This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her ConsortCIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. Yeah, that’s exactly why we Rallied Against Dersh and his C-U Buddies last night. They are All Pathetic! And the Palestinian Bloodshed will only get worse as we near Nakba Day on May 15. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. 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Name: image004.png Type: image/png Size: 2567 bytes Desc: image004.png URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Apr 27 16:06:51 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:06:51 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Having entered HLS in 1971, I knew a lot about Dersh. But last night I saw he was a CHICKENSHIT too! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM To: bjornsona at ameritech.net; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. Hey! Hey! Dershowitz say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------ From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 3:08 PM To: Pea ce-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); Cc: Subject:[Peace-discuss] Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? [https://www.liberationnews.org/wp-content/themes/libnews-mega/images/logo.png] Newspaper of the Party for Socialism and Liberation < path d="M22 5.16c-.406-.054-1.806-.16-3.43-.16-3.4 0-5.733 1.825-5.733 5.17v2.882H9v3.913h3.837V27h4.604V16.965h3.823l.587-3.913h-4.41v-2.5c0-1.123.347-1.903 2.198-1.903H22V5.16z" fill-rule="evenodd">< /svg> [Sign up for email updates] · HOME · SECTIONS » · PUBLICATIONS » · PSL » · DONATE » · [Search] [Navigate to... \/] GUEST ANALYSIS Download PDF flyer Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua? By Sergio Alejandro Gómez Apr 26, 2018 6418 [Who is behind the protests in Nicaragua?] Public domain image. Liberation News translation from original article in Granma, Cuba’s daily newspaper. April 23, 2018 What seemed like a simple citizen protest over the increase in social security contributions in Nicaragua, culminated last week in a wave of violence that leaves at least a dozen dead and hundreds of establishments destroyed. Given the level of organization shown, the extent of the damage and the participation of criminal groups, key questions arise: What is the origin of the demonstrations? Who are behind the most violent groups? The demonstrations took off in the middle of last week as a reaction to a reform of the Nicaraguan Institute of Social Security (INSS). The measure of the Sandinista Executive planned to increase the contribution of workers from 6.25% to 7%, while employers would go from paying 19% to 22.5%. The objective of the decision was to correct the INSS deficit and make it sustainable in the medium and long terms. Groups of students and retirees, who receive their pensions from the same fund, staged the first public displays of discontent, but in a few hours the events led to massive looting and attacks against ambulances, hospitals, clinics, businesses, cars, government institutions and even family homes. The scenes of the last days contrast with the statistics that show Nicaragua as one of the safest and most peaceful countries in Central America. The Sandinista authorities consider that, beyond a “civic protest”, what Nicaragua is experiencing is a right-wing plan to incite criminals and obtain political revenue through instability and the artificial creation of a scenario of shortages and scarcity of basic products. Comandante Daniel Ortega said last Sunday that those who broke into the shopping centers were not “poor people” but “those interested in unleashing chaos.” The Government reversed the reform of social security and was willing to establish a dialogue to find a solution to the INSS deficit. However, the leaders of the protests assured that they will not stop their actions.”Social security is no longer the issue, but freedom of expression, corruption, and many others,” said the president of the Broad Front for Democracy (FAD), Violeta Granera. When a “minority wants to impose its will by force,” said Comandante Ortega, “the opposition is no longer healthy and becomes a factor of destabilization.” The president also criticized the local rightwing seeking the support of U.S. politicians with the objective of “financing destabilization plans.” It is striking that the mobilization for the protests of recent days has been carried out through social networks with methods very similar to those of the Non- Conventional War (GNC). One of the basic principles of the GNC, perfected by Washington to overthrow governments that are not to its liking, is to get society to confront the government with any excuse, strengthen the conflict from abroad and tighten the siege at the diplomatic level. As part of the destabilizing actions, Washington ordered the departure of the relatives of its diplomats in Managua on Monday and reduced services in its embassy. Likewise, the State Department renewed today the petition to its citizens to “reconsider trips” to Nicaragua. Meanwhile, the villagers began to organize themselves to defend neighborhoods, businesses, welfare centers and public spaces against the vandalism of violent groups. Likewise, the army was deployed to guarantee the protection of government buildings and facilities vital for citizenship. The climate of peace and coexistence in Nicaragua attracts a growing number of tourists and foreign investors. The Central American country boasts one of the highest economic growth rates in the region, around 5% of the annual Gross Domestic Product. “The objective of those who are directing these criminal plans is to destroy the image of Nicaragua,” criticized Comandante Ortega. However, he was confident that Nicaraguans will not repeat the mistakes of the past and will choose the path of dialogue instead of that of war. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mickalideh at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 16:44:38 2018 From: mickalideh at gmail.com (Harry Mickalide) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:44:38 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had a fulfilling experience at this protest. We were united and we spoke with conviction. I came away from the protest with that paradoxical feeling of being totally drained and wobbly on my knees, and yet rejuvenated in some deep part of my soul. Shame on you Carl for your continuous disparagement of Karen, Dr. Boyle, me, and everyone else who is pouring their souls into real action. You were not there. On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Boyle, Francis A wrote: > *I stand corrected. Thanks to everyone involved. Yeah, Harry showed a lot > of guts up there. fab.* > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > * > > *Champaign, IL 61820 USA > * > > *217-333-7954 (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 (fax)* > > *(personal comments only)* > > > > *From:* Karen Aram > *Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2018 9:35 AM > *To:* Boyle, Francis A > *Cc:* Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>; Harry Mickalide > > *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > > > > Frances, > > > > NO, thank you, but no. > > > > I was not MC in anyway, I did not speak, nor was I responsible for > bringing this together with the many young people attending, speaking, etc/ > > > > This was PSL, the Party for Socialist Liberation/ANSWER with a couple > people/groups co-sponsoring. They deserve the credit. They are not on this > Peace List. > > > > Yes, there were some AWARE people present, but the majority were PSL. > > > > On Apr 27, 2018, at 07:28, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > > > *It all came together. And Karen was our real Master of Ceremonies. Kudos > to all!* > > > > *Fab* > > > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > * > > *Champaign, IL 61820 USA > * > > *217-333-7954 (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 (fax)* > > *(personal comments only)* > > > > *From:* Peace-discuss *On > Behalf Of *bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss > *Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2018 9:17 AM > *To:* Karen Aram via Peace-discuss ; C. > G. Estabrook > *Cc:* Harry Mickalide > *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > > > > I am looking forward to watching the speeches and the protest online. > Being slightly Luddite, I forget online is where the majority opinion can > be changed in hours! The venue was beautiful for filming, everyone > positioned just right, Harry Mickalide holding the exact center spot on the > steps so he could not be avoided. Everyone using their own talents- we may > not be cohesive yet we are getting the job done bit by bit. There were > students in there keeping quiet who disagreed with the majority. The flyers > were good too- the interviewer read straight off the back off the flyer and > asked D. what he thought of it. > > > > *Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone* > > > > ------ Original message------ > > *From: *Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > > *Date: *Thu, Apr 26, 2018 11:38 PM > > *To: *C. G. Estabrook; > > *Cc: *Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Harry > Mickalide; > > *Subject:*Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > > > > So do I, everytime we do anything opposing war, if it’s not your idea, you > look for every opportunity to belittle and criticize. > > > > By the way, special credit goes to *Harry Mickalide*, for sitting on the > stairs to the entrance, with his sign. Some people thanked him for doing > what he was doing, but some people were rude and very, very ugly. > > > > Thanks to *Stuart Levy*, who filmed the protest, not as much fun, but > more productive, than chanting. > > > > The speakers, and the many people who attended in solidarity with those > who made the effort to attend and voice their disapproval of this man, who > represents and is part of the system, of the most reprehensible nation in > the world. > > > > > On Apr 26, 2018, at 21:15, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > > I’m sorry you feel that way, Karen. > > I think some real issues are involved. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Apr 26, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, > you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. > > > > On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook > wrote: > > Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a > substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some > faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? > > If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE > > > > > On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. > > Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen > working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. > > > > Francis A. Boyle > > Law Building > > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > > > Champaign IL 61820 USA > > 217-333-7954 (phone) > > 217-244-1478 (fax) > > (personal comments only) > > > > From: Boyle, Francis A > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM > To: 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' ; Peace-discuss > List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > > > > Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about > to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us > and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there > somewhere. > > Hey! Hey! > > Dershowitz say! > > How many kids! > > Did you kill today! > > > > Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for > inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our > Campus and Community. > > Fab. > > > > Francis A. Boyle > > Law Building > > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > > > Champaign IL 61820 USA > > 217-333-7954 (phone) > > 217-244-1478 (fax) > > (personal comments only) > > > > From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net > ] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- > via Peace-discuss > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM > To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz > > > > > > Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to > address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. > keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly > the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in > Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states > > Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Apr 27 16:51:50 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:51:50 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That we did together Harry. Knowing these CU Zionists as I do from long experience in dealing with them, it took a lot of guts for you to sit there confronting them directly with that sign. My Brother! Francis. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Harry Mickalide Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 11:45 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Karen Aram ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz I had a fulfilling experience at this protest. We were united and we spoke with conviction. I came away from the protest with that paradoxical feeling of being totally drained and wobbly on my knees, and yet rejuvenated in some deep part of my soul. Shame on you Carl for your continuous disparagement of Karen, Dr. Boyle, me, and everyone else who is pouring their souls into real action. You were not there. On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Boyle, Francis A > wrote: I stand corrected. Thanks to everyone involved. Yeah, Harry showed a lot of guts up there. fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:35 AM To: Boyle, Francis A > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) >; Harry Mickalide > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Frances, NO, thank you, but no. I was not MC in anyway, I did not speak, nor was I responsible for bringing this together with the many young people attending, speaking, etc/ This was PSL, the Party for Socialist Liberation/ANSWER with a couple people/groups co-sponsoring. They deserve the credit. They are not on this Peace List. Yes, there were some AWARE people present, but the majority were PSL. On Apr 27, 2018, at 07:28, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: It all came together. And Karen was our real Master of Ceremonies. Kudos to all! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss > On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:17 AM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss >; C. G. Estabrook > Cc: Harry Mickalide > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz I am looking forward to watching the speeches and the protest online. Being slightly Luddite, I forget online is where the majority opinion can be changed in hours! The venue was beautiful for filming, everyone positioned just right, Harry Mickalide holding the exact center spot on the steps so he could not be avoided. Everyone using their own talents- we may not be cohesive yet we are getting the job done bit by bit. There were students in there keeping quiet who disagreed with the majority. The flyers were good too- the interviewer read straight off the back off the flyer and asked D. what he thought of it. Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------ From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 11:38 PM To: C. G. Estabrook; Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Harry Mickalide; Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz So do I, everytime we do anything opposing war, if it’s not your idea, you look for every opportunity to belittle and criticize. By the way, special credit goes to Harry Mickalide, for sitting on the stairs to the entrance, with his sign. Some people thanked him for doing what he was doing, but some people were rude and very, very ugly. Thanks to Stuart Levy, who filmed the protest, not as much fun, but more productive, than chanting. The speakers, and the many people who attended in solidarity with those who made the effort to attend and voice their disapproval of this man, who represents and is part of the system, of the most reprehensible nation in the world. On Apr 26, 2018, at 21:15, C. G. Estabrook > wrote: I’m sorry you feel that way, Karen. I think some real issues are involved. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: Carl, your extreme negativity towards others, attempting to do anything, you haven’t suggested, or participated in, is really becoming a bore. On Apr 26, 2018, at 20:49, Carl G. Estabrook > wrote: Is it fair to say that the audience at tonight's lecture come away with a substantive if specious defense of Israel - and the knowledge that some faculty and students think Dershowitz shouldn't have been invited to speak? If so, that's not a victory. (Perhaps in a playground fight…) —CGE On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: Dersh chickening out was really the highlight of my day. Again, my thanks to all for making this happen and especially Karen working so hard behind the scenes—as usual. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:47 PM To: 'bjornsona at ameritech.net' >; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Just got back home. Dersh and his Entourage were off to the side and about to the walk towards the front door of the Foellinger Auditorium. He saw us and chickened out. So he skedaddled towards the back door and entered there somewhere. Hey! Hey! Dershowitz say! How many kids! Did you kill today! Thanks to everyone who came. And Damn this Nazi College of Law for inviting this war criminal and torture-mongerer in order to stink up our Campus and Community. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:20 PM To: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Dershowitz patronizing our protests outside. Obviously felt he had to address it. The interviewer be g an with softball ?s and got tougher. D. keeps regressing to Germany, Germany, Germany and 1947 and how badly the Jews have been treated. Living in the past century. Hated Obama in Middle East. Interviewer really ticked him off asking about 2 states Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 20:57:50 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 15:57:50 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Don’t be silly, Harry. No disparagement is meant. What did your sign say? > On Apr 27, 2018, at 11:44 AM, Harry Mickalide via Peace-discuss wrote: > > I had a fulfilling experience at this protest. We were united and we spoke with conviction. I came away from the protest with that paradoxical feeling of being totally drained and wobbly on my knees, and yet rejuvenated in some deep part of my soul. > > Shame on you Carl for your continuous disparagement of Karen, Dr. Boyle, me, and everyone else who is pouring their souls into real action. You were not there. > From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Apr 27 21:01:05 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 21:01:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Harry is My Brother! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: C G Estabrook Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 3:58 PM To: Harry Mickalide Cc: Boyle, Francis A ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) ; Karen Aram Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Don’t be silly, Harry. No disparagement is meant. What did your sign say? > On Apr 27, 2018, at 11:44 AM, Harry Mickalide via Peace-discuss wrote: > > I had a fulfilling experience at this protest. We were united and we spoke with conviction. I came away from the protest with that paradoxical feeling of being totally drained and wobbly on my knees, and yet rejuvenated in some deep part of my soul. > > Shame on you Carl for your continuous disparagement of Karen, Dr. Boyle, me, and everyone else who is pouring their souls into real action. You were not there. > From fboyle at illinois.edu Fri Apr 27 21:03:40 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 21:03:40 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz References: Message-ID: And Karen is My Sister! Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:01 PM To: 'C G Estabrook' ; Harry Mickalide Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) ; Karen Aram Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Harry is My Brother! fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: C G Estabrook Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 3:58 PM To: Harry Mickalide Cc: Boyle, Francis A ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) ; Karen Aram Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Dershowitz Don’t be silly, Harry. No disparagement is meant. What did your sign say? > On Apr 27, 2018, at 11:44 AM, Harry Mickalide via Peace-discuss wrote: > > I had a fulfilling experience at this protest. We were united and we spoke with conviction. I came away from the protest with that paradoxical feeling of being totally drained and wobbly on my knees, and yet rejuvenated in some deep part of my soul. > > Shame on you Carl for your continuous disparagement of Karen, Dr. Boyle, me, and everyone else who is pouring their souls into real action. You were not there. > From r-szoke at illinois.edu Sat Apr 28 02:46:09 2018 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 02:46:09 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Anti-War March Saturday 5 PM CDT, West Side Park Champaign, Il In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is this April 14th or the 28th? From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Apr 28 03:23:05 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 03:23:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Anti-War March Saturday 5 PM CDT, West Side Park Champaign, Il In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ron that march was the 14th, sorry you missed it. > On Apr 27, 2018, at 19:46, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Is this April 14th or the 28th? > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From r-szoke at illinois.edu Sat Apr 28 03:45:51 2018 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 03:45:51 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Wow! Yet another splinter group! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: [page1image1677488] [page1image5091728] [page1image1678112] [page1image1678320] [page1image1678528] [page1image1678736] [page1image1678944] [page1image1679152] Party for Socialism and Liberation The Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) is a Marxist–Leninist[3] political party in the United States, created as the result of a split within the ranks of the Workers World Party (WWP).[4] The PSL has numerous branches across the country. Peta Lindsay and Yari Osorio were PSL's 2012 presidential ticket. Gloria La Riva and Eugene Puryear ran for President and Vice President on the PSL ticket in 2008 and 2016. In 2016, La Riva received more votes than any U.S. socialist [5] Presidential candidate performance Ideology International policy Publications See also References External links History The PSL was formed when the San Francisco branch and several other members left WWP in June 2004, announcing that "the Workers World Party leadership is no longer capable" of fulfilling the "mission" of building socialism.[4] Presidential candidate performance [page1image1679360] [page1image5091280] Party for Socialism and Liberation [page1image3836032] [page1image1681440] [page1image1681648] [page1image1682064] Leader Central Committee[1] [page1image1682480] [page1image1682688] [page1image1683104] [page1image1683312] Founded June 2004[2] [page1image1683728] [page1image1683936] [page1image1684352] [page1image1684560] Split from Workers World Party [page1image1684976] [page1image1685184] [page1image1685600] [page1image1685808] Headquarters San Francisco, California; Washington, D.C. [page1image1686224] [page1image1686432] [page1image1686848] [page1image1687056] Ideology Communism Marxism–Leninism Revolutionary socialism [page1image1687472] [page1image1687680] [page1image1688096] [page1image1688304] Political position Far-left [page1image1688720] [page1image1688928] [page1image1689344] [page1image1689552] Colors Red [page1image1689968] [page1image1690176] [page1image1690592] [page1image1690800] Seats in the 0 / 100 Senate [page1image1691216] [page1image5066080] [page1image5065744] Seats in the 0 / 435 House [page1image1692672] [page1image1692880] [page1image1693088] [page1image1693504] [page1image1693712] Governorships 0 / 50 [page1image1694128] [page1image1694336] [page1image1694544] [page1image1694960] [page1image1695168] State Upper 0 / 1,972 House Seats [page1image1695584] [page1image1695792] [page1image1696000] [page1image1696416] [page1image1696624] State Lower 0 / 5,411 House Seats [page1image1697040] [page1image1697248] [page1image1697456] [page1image5092288] Other elected 0 offices [page1image1698496] [page1image1698704] [page1image1699120] Website [page1image1699536] [page1image1699744] pslweb.org [page1image5092064] [page1image1701408] Politics of United States Political parties Elections [page1image1701616] [page1image1701824] [page1image1702032] [page1image1702240] [page1image1702448] [page1image1702656] [page1image1702864] [page1image1703072] presidential candidate since 1976. Contents History [page1image1703280] [page1image1703488] [page1image1703696] Year Presidential candidate/Vice presidential candidate [page1image3671056] [page1image3671264] [page1image3671472] [page1image3671680] Popular votes Percentage Electoral votes [page1image3780256] [page1image3780464] 2008 [page1image3781712] Gloria La Riva/Eugene Puryear [page1image3782544] [page1image3782752] [page1image3782960] 6,818[6] 0.01% 0 2012 [page1image3787120] Peta Lindsay/Yari Osorio [page1image3788160] 7,791[7] 0.01% 0 [page1image5059024] 2016 Gloria La Riva/Eugene Puryear [page1image3793776] [page1image3793984] [page1image3794192] 74,392[8] 0.05% 0 Ideology The party's goal is to lead a revolution paving the way towardssocialism, under which a "new government of working people" would be formed. The PSL proposes many radical changes to be implemented by this government. In the political sphere, all elected representatives should be recallable, securing freedom of speech for the working class (except in the case of xenophobia or bigotry and to prevent re-establishment of the capitalist system) and the elimination of corporate influencefrom politics. The party's program states: "Achieving fully developed socialism, a goal that has not yet been achieved anywhere, will open the way to communism and the end of class society".[9] Concerning economics, the PSL would among other measures prohibit the exploitation of labor for private profit, implement a working week of 30 hours and eradicate poverty through the introduction of a basic income guarantee. The PSL would grant the right of self-determination to what it considers oppressed nations of the U.S., including "African Americans, Native, Puerto Rican and other Latino national minorities, the Hawaiian nation, Asian, Pacific Islander, Arab, and other oppressed peoples who have experienced oppression as a whole people under capitalism". It would grant independence to Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, the Virgin Islands, and the Mariana Islands, which it considers colonies. International policy Historically, the PSL has a generally positive view of the Soviet Union, describing the October Revolution as "the single biggest event that shaped global politics in the 20th century". The PSL acknowledges that the New Economic Policy of Vladimir Lenin led "to a re-polarization of social classes, especially in the countryside". The PSL blames the reforms initiated by Mikhail Gorbachev for the fall of the Soviet Union.[10] The PSL supports Cuba, and mourned the death of former Cuban President Fidel Castro.[11] While critical of the current Chinese government, the PSL acknowledges China's contributions to socialism and anti-imperialist struggle, and views the Chinese Revolution favorably.[12] The PSL also supports the Bolivarian Revolution in Venezuela. It has endorsed activities that call for the release of the Cuban Five—deemed political prisoners by supporters—and called for the extradition of Luis Posada Carriles from the U.S.[13] The PSL voiced solidarity withNepalupon the overthrow of the monarchy and the 2008 election oPfushpa Kamal Dahal.[14] In the Leninist tradition,[15] the PSL supports the right of nations to self-determination. It has been outspoken in condemning Israel and its role in the Middle East. The PSL led demonstrations against the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in July 2006, and supports the "right of return"for Palestinians. The PSL co-operates with other organizations across the U.S. in the anti-war movement,[16] and is a member of the steering committee of the Act Now to Stop War and End Racism Coalition (A.N.S.W.E.R.). 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[page2image1674784] [page2image1674992] Publications The party's main publication is the monthly newspaper, Liberation News,[19] which replaced a quarterly magazine, Socialism and Liberation.[20] The PSL outlines its political perspective, including its assessment of the current international and domestic situation, in the pamphlet "Who We Are, What We Stand For".[21] The party also owns its own printing company, PSL Publications, through which it has published multiple printed books such as Socialists and War: Two opposing trends by members Mazada Majidi and Brian Becker[22] and an e-book which was released through Amazon titled A Woman's Place Is in the Struggle by members Ana Maria Ramirez, Anne Gamboni, Gloria La Riva, and Liz Lowengard.[23] The PSL's publication company is headquartered at their West Coast office in San Francisco, California. [page2image1675200] [page2image1675408] [page2image1675616] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, Ron. Thank you for the Wikipedia page. PSL has been in Champaign, since 2016, though they focused their activities in Chicago. I only knew of them as of a couple months ago, by way of David Johnson. David has had them on the Labor Hour twice. They are at least 10 -12 when meeting, all young, and probably the most diverse group in this town. Some are students, some not. They are also ANSWER, their anti-war division. I posted the VDO of the April 14th anti-war march on this list, as well as their panel discussion on russiagate the following week, and the rally opposing Alan Dershowitz, will be available mid to late next week. On Apr 27, 2018, at 20:45, Szoke, Ron > wrote: Party for Socialism and Liberation The Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) is a Marxist–Leninist[3] political party in the United States, created as the result of a split within the ranks of the Workers World Party (WWP).[4] The PSL has numerous branches across the country. Peta Lindsay and Yari Osorio were PSL's 2012 presidential ticket. Gloria La Riva and Eugene Puryear ran for President and Vice President on the PSL ticket in 2008 and 2016. In 2016, La Riva received more votes than any U.S. socialist [5] Presidential candidate performance Ideology International policy Publications See also References External links History The PSL was formed when the San Francisco branch and several other members left WWP in June 2004, announcing that "the Workers World Party leadership is no longer capable" of fulfilling the "mission" of building socialism.[4] Presidential candidate performance Party for Socialism and Liberation Leader Central Committee[1] Founded June 2004[2] Split from Workers World Party Headquarters San Francisco, California; Washington, D.C. Ideology Communism Marxism–Leninism Revolutionary socialism Political position Far-left Colors Red Seats in the 0 / 100 Senate Seats in the 0 / 435 House Governorships 0 / 50 State Upper 0 / 1,972 House Seats State Lower 0 / 5,411 House Seats Other elected 0 offices Website pslweb.org Politics of United States Political parties Elections presidential candidate since 1976. Contents History Year Presidential candidate/Vice presidential candidate Popular votes Percentage Electoral votes 2008 Gloria La Riva/Eugene Puryear 6,818[6] 0.01% 0 2012 Peta Lindsay/Yari Osorio 7,791[7] 0.01% 0 2016 Gloria La Riva/Eugene Puryear 74,392[8] 0.05% 0 Ideology The party's goal is to lead a revolution paving the way towardssocialism, under which a "new government of working people" would be formed. The PSL proposes many radical changes to be implemented by this government. In the political sphere, all elected representatives should be recallable, securing freedom of speech for the working class (except in the case of xenophobia or bigotry and to prevent re-establishment of the capitalist system) and the elimination of corporate influencefrom politics. The party's program states: "Achieving fully developed socialism, a goal that has not yet been achieved anywhere, will open the way to communism and the end of class society".[9] Concerning economics, the PSL would among other measures prohibit the exploitation of labor for private profit, implement a working week of 30 hours and eradicate poverty through the introduction of a basic income guarantee. The PSL would grant the right of self-determination to what it considers oppressed nations of the U.S., including "African Americans, Native, Puerto Rican and other Latino national minorities, the Hawaiian nation, Asian, Pacific Islander, Arab, and other oppressed peoples who have experienced oppression as a whole people under capitalism". It would grant independence to Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, the Virgin Islands, and the Mariana Islands, which it considers colonies. International policy Historically, the PSL has a generally positive view of the Soviet Union, describing the October Revolution as "the single biggest event that shaped global politics in the 20th century". The PSL acknowledges that the New Economic Policy of Vladimir Lenin led "to a re-polarization of social classes, especially in the countryside". The PSL blames the reforms initiated by Mikhail Gorbachev for the fall of the Soviet Union.[10] The PSL supports Cuba, and mourned the death of former Cuban President Fidel Castro.[11] While critical of the current Chinese government, the PSL acknowledges China's contributions to socialism and anti-imperialist struggle, and views the Chinese Revolution favorably.[12] The PSL also supports the Bolivarian Revolution in Venezuela. It has endorsed activities that call for the release of the Cuban Five—deemed political prisoners by supporters—and called for the extradition of Luis Posada Carriles from the U.S.[13] The PSL voiced solidarity withNepalupon the overthrow of the monarchy and the 2008 election oPfushpa Kamal Dahal.[14] In the Leninist tradition,[15] the PSL supports the right of nations to self-determination. It has been outspoken in condemning Israel and its role in the Middle East. The PSL led demonstrations against the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in July 2006, and supports the "right of return"for Palestinians. The PSL co-operates with other organizations across the U.S. in the anti-war movement,[16] and is a member of the steering committee of the Act Now to Stop War and End Racism Coalition (A.N.S.W.E.R.). As one of the most active members of the coalition, the PSL has gained notice for successfully forging ties with Arab and Muslim American groups such as the Muslim American Society, Al-Awda, and the American-ArabAnti-DiscriminationCommittee.[17]The PSL advocates for the end of the U.S. [18] military presence inIraq and Afghanistan, and the closure all US foreign military bases. Publications The party's main publication is the monthly newspaper, Liberation News,[19] which replaced a quarterly magazine, Socialism and Liberation.[20] The PSL outlines its political perspective, including its assessment of the current international and domestic situation, in the pamphlet "Who We Are, What We Stand For".[21] The party also owns its own printing company, PSL Publications, through which it has published multiple printed books such as Socialists and War: Two opposing trends by members Mazada Majidi and Brian Becker[22] and an e-book which was released through Amazon titled A Woman's Place Is in the Struggle by members Ana Maria Ramirez, Anne Gamboni, Gloria La Riva, and Liz Lowengard.[23] The PSL's publication company is headquartered at their West Coast office in San Francisco, California. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sat Apr 28 13:56:28 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 08:56:28 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Local news coverage of Dershowitz, a couple seconds of the protestors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8613A385-681C-4989-9BE1-9AC1A27E81BD@gmail.com> The Channel 3 report does point out Dershowitz' particular concern, which seems to testify to the growing influence of the Boycott/Divestment/Sanctions movement: Dershowitz says, "[BDS] think they're going to bring back peace and they're just dead dead wrong. I support free speech, I support their right to tell their lies, and I support my right to call them lies. But I don't support their right to use the kind of economic discrimination that the Nazis used against the Jews in the 1930's when they boycotted Jewish stores." We should note the cowardly acquiescence of our local ‘liberal’ legislators, state senator Scott Bennett and state representative Carol Ammons (both Democrats), to the Israeli government’s interference in the Illinois legislature on this matter, in support of its racist policies in the territories that it illegally occupies. Three years ago Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner signed into law the first-ever state action against boycotts of Israeli apartheid - a bill requiring Illinois to identify companies that boycott Israel for its discrimination against Palestinians - and then to withhold investing Illinois pension funds in those companies! Neither Bennett nor Ammons voted against the bill, which had been actively lobbied for by the Israeli consulate in Chicago. That a foreign government should be directing Illinois’ investment strategies is bad enough, but that it should be in support of racism, illegal occupation, and human rights abuses is outrageous. It has been observed that apartheid against Palestinians in the territories that Israel occupies is worse than the apartheid regime that existed in South Africa from 1948 to 1994. That system was based on the repression of the black (African, Coloured and Indian) majority of the population for the benefit of the politically and economically dominant group, Afrikaners. Bennett and Ammons would not have favored South African apartheid a generation ago. That they do so now, in Israel, is shameful. Another reason that the war-party/Democrats should not be supported, on the state or national level. —CGE > On Apr 27, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > > http://www.illinoishomepage.net/news/local-news/free-speech-forum-causes-controversy/1144749553 _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Apr 28, 2018, at 08:47, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: For what it is worth, I came away with three lessons from our Rally. Of course people are free to disagree with me and/or add their own lessons: 1. Dersh is a Chickenshit at Heart. 2. The Next Generation is with Palestine and the Palestinians. 3. Dersh et al. Days are numbered and they know it. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sat Apr 28 15:52:21 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 10:52:21 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Local news coverage of Dershowitz, a couple seconds of the protestors In-Reply-To: <0FFD386F-53D4-4FC4-8FB3-8F090E53E8C8@illinois.edu> References: <8613A385-681C-4989-9BE1-9AC1A27E81BD@gmail.com> <0FFD386F-53D4-4FC4-8FB3-8F090E53E8C8@illinois.edu> Message-ID: I think I know what you’re getting at, Ron, but I’m not sure. Could we have a no-irony version of what you’re saying? That might smooth out the wrinkles… > On Apr 28, 2018, at 10:42 AM, Szoke, Ron wrote: > > > (1) I am clearly, obviously and in fact more idealistic, anti-war and pro-life than you are. > (2) From (1), it follows necessarily that I am MORALLY SUPERIOR to you. > (3) From (2), it is therefore clearly natural, appropriate and fitting that I be your Leader, guide and judge in everything that you may think, say and do. > > Don’t like this? Note that some people in this group have already implicitly accepted it in other cases. How about you? > From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Apr 28 16:06:19 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 16:06:19 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Lessons from our Rally? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Again, people who were there are free to disagree with me, but as I saw it at the time, basically it was a Bunch of Old Farts with Grim Faces On going into hear Dersh who was so afraid of us speaking the Truth that Dersh and his Entourage chickened out going in the front door and skedaddled around to a back entrance somewhere. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Karen Aram [mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:52 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Lessons from our Rally? I couldn’t agree more. On Apr 28, 2018, at 08:47, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: For what it is worth, I came away with three lessons from our Rally. Of course people are free to disagree with me and/or add their own lessons: 1. Dersh is a Chickenshit at Heart. 2. The Next Generation is with Palestine and the Palestinians. 3. Dersh et al. Days are numbered and they know it. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Sat Apr 28 16:15:01 2018 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 11:15:01 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Lessons from our Rally? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And I came away from the events around Dershowitz’ appearance with the (to me) surprising conclusion that the BDS movement (especially BD) is having an effect that the government of Israel and the Israeli lobby are desperate to counter. Despite the apparently legitimate criticisms of BDS by Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, and David Green, it seems that boycotts and divestment should be encouraged (as they would agree), while attention and opposition are focused on the primary and indispensable source of Israeli crimes, US foreign policy. —CGE > On Apr 28, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > For what it is worth, I came away with three lessons from our Rally. Of course people are free to disagree with me and/or add their own lessons: > > 1. Dersh is a Chickenshit at Heart. > 2. The Next Generation is with Palestine and the Palestinians. > 3. Dersh et al. Days are numbered and they know it. > fab > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From bjornsona at ameritech.net Sat Apr 28 16:27:25 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (bjornsona at ameritech.net) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 11:27:25 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Local news coverage of Dershowitz, a couple seconds of the protestors Message-ID: "That a foreign government should be directing Illinois' investment strategies is bad enough, but that it should be in support of racism, illegal occupation, and human rights abuses is outrageous." And as you and David Greene said so clearly on NFN yesterday, using our (federal) tax dollars and military support. There was a moment when D. began to say that Cynthia Nixon and her group has hurt Israel very much-he was serious- his tone changed from the rhetoric to what he seemed to really think. Unfortunately, we did not hear more than that.  Per your request to see a copy of the flyer or its contents, Carl, hope you have found it. I was successful at scanning it yesterday, however ran into issues on our shared computer. It is just too beautiful out- have been gardening. You may find it at Jewish Voice for Peace. --Champaign-Urbana Chapter www.job.org. One side was mostly about the new " South Carolina law that makes campus speech codes against harassing and threatening speech use the State Department definition of anti-Semitism in order to discipline pro-Palestinian students and faculty." Would he condemn that law if he was truly in favor of free speech? The other side was headed "Free Speech, But Not For All," and was on BDS. Listed the goals of BDS, why BDS is not anti-Semitic, quoted a Quaker website and said many Jewish organizations support BDS. Thank you David and Carl for an excellent NFN yesterday. Helps me put into words what very few people are saying. Thank you, Ron for the PSL info. Off to dig and plant se eds elsewhere- not at Foellinger ;) Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discussDate: Sat, Apr 28, 2018 8:56 AMTo: Karen Aram;Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Local news coverage of Dershowitz, a couple seconds of the protestors The Channel 3 report does point out Dershowitz' particular concern, which seems to testify to the growing influence of the Boycott/Divestment/Sanctions movement:  Dershowitz says, "[BDS] think they're going to bring back peace and they're just dead dead wrong. I support free speech, I support their right to tell their lies, and I support my right to call them lies. But I don't support their right to use the kind of economic discrimination that the Nazis used against the Jews in the 1930's when they boycotted Jewish stores." We should note the cowardly acquiescence of our local ‘liberal’ legislators, state senator Scott Bennett and state representative Carol Ammons (both Democrats), to the Israeli government’s interference in the Illinois legislature on this matter, in support of its racist policies in the territories that it illegally occupies. Three years ago Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner signed into law the first-ever state action against boycotts of Israeli apartheid - a bill requiring Illinois to identify companies that boycott Israel for its discrimination against Palestinians - and then to withhold investing Illinois pension funds in those companies! Neither Bennett nor Ammons voted against the bill, which had been actively lobbied for by the Israeli consulate in Chicago. That a foreign government should be directing Illinois’ investment strategies is bad enough, but that it should be in support of racism, illegal occupation, and human rights abuses is outrageous. It has been observed that apartheid against Palestinians in the territories that Israel occupies is worse than the apartheid regime that existed in South Africa from 1948 to 1994. That system was based on the repression of the black (African, Coloured and Indian) majority of the population for the benefit of the politically and economically dominant group, Afrikaners. Bennett and Ammons would not have favored South African apartheid a generation ago. That they do so now, in Israel, is shameful. Another reason that the war-party/Democrats should not be supported, on the state or national level. —CGE   On Apr 27, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: http://www.illinoishomepage.net/news/local-news/free-speech-forum-causes-controversy/1144749553 _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bjornsona at ameritech.net Sat Apr 28 16:34:14 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (bjornsona at ameritech.net) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 11:34:14 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Lessons from our Rally? Message-ID: FyI: I do not know if BDS had anything do to with this, however: some months ago CVS changed one of my generic meds from one sourced from Teva, in Israel, to a company in China. At first I was reluctant to accept the change, then I heard about BDS, and decides to try the new med. Not perfect, but hey. I believe the new company is Solco and it is my blood pressure med Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------From: Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discussDate: Sat, Apr 28, 2018 11:16 AMTo: Francis A Boyle;Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net);Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Lessons from our Rally? And I came away from the events around Dershowitz’ appearance with the (to me) surprising conclusion that the BDS movement (especially BD) is having an effect that the government of Israel and the Israeli lobby are desperate to counter. Despite the apparently legitimate criticisms of BDS by Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, and David Green, it seems that boycotts and divestment should be encouraged (as they would agree), while attention and opposition are focused on the primary and indispensable source of Israeli crimes, US foreign policy. —CGE > On Apr 28, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > For what it is worth, I came away with three lessons from our Rally. Of course people are free to disagree with me and/or add their own lessons: > > 1. Dersh is a Chickenshit at Heart. > 2. The Next Generation is with Palestine and the Palestinians. > 3. Dersh et al. Days are numbered and they know it. > fab > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Apr 28 16:38:45 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 16:38:45 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Lessons from our Rally? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This visit is sponsored by Gies College of Business; The Program in Constitutional Theory, History, and Law at the College of Law {i.e., Fired and Disgraced Dean Hurricane Heidi Hurd and her ConsortCIA/Mossad Torturer-mongerer Mikey Moore}; and the Chabad Center for Jewish {Sic!} Life at University of Illinois. ------------------------- People are free to disagree with me, but as of now The Great Return March in Gaza and BDS are all the Palestinians have going for them. And on May 15 there will be a "Perfect Storm” against Palestine and the Palestinians: Nakba Day; Culmination of The Great Return March in Gaza; The First Day of Ramadan; the US Embassy Moves to Jerusalem; Trump just said he might be in Jerusalem for it. I shudder to think how many Palestinians will be genocided by Zionists on May 15 with the full and enthusiastic support of American Zionists including and especially the C-U Zionists who brought the Zionist War Criminal Dershowitz into our Good Community. I call down the Curse of Cain upon them all! Fab D in BDS. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) -----Original Message----- From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 11:15 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Lessons from our Rally? And I came away from the events around Dershowitz’ appearance with the (to me) surprising conclusion that the BDS movement (especially BD) is having an effect that the government of Israel and the Israeli lobby are desperate to counter. Despite the apparently legitimate criticisms of BDS by Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, and David Green, it seems that boycotts and divestment should be encouraged (as they would agree), while attention and opposition are focused on the primary and indispensable source of Israeli crimes, US foreign policy. —CGE > On Apr 28, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > For what it is worth, I came away with three lessons from our Rally. Of course people are free to disagree with me and/or add their own lessons: > > 1. Dersh is a Chickenshit at Heart. > 2. The Next Generation is with Palestine and the Palestinians. > 3. Dersh et al. Days are numbered and they know it. > fab > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Apr 28 16:39:54 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 16:39:54 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Lessons from our Rally? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Every little bit helps. fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: bjornsona at ameritech.net [mailto:bjornsona at ameritech.net] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 11:34 AM To: Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss ; Boyle, Francis A Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Lessons from our Rally? FyI: I do not know if BDS had anything do to with this, however: some months ago CVS changed one of my generic meds from one sourced from Teva, in Israel, to a company in China. At first I was reluctant to accept the change, then I heard about BDS, and decides to try the new med. Not perfect, but hey. I believe the new company is Solco and it is my blood pressure med Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------ From: Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2018 11:16 AM To: Francis A Boyle; Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Lessons from our Rally? And I came away from the events around Dershowitz’ appearance with the (to me) surprising conclusion that the BDS movement (especially BD) is having an effect that the government of Israel and the Israeli lobby are desperate to counter. Despite the apparently legitimate criticisms of BDS by Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, and David Green, it seems that boycotts and divestment should be encouraged (as they would agree), while attention and opposition are focused on the primary and indispensable source of Israeli crimes, US foreign policy. —CGE > On Apr 28, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss wrote: > > For what it is worth, I came away with three lessons from our Rally. Of course people are free to disagree with me and/or add their own lessons: > > 1. Dersh is a Chickenshit at Heart. > 2. The Next Generation is with Palestine and the Palestinians. > 3. Dersh et al. Days are numbered and they know it. > fab > > Francis A. Boyle > Law Building > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > Champaign IL 61820 USA > 217-333-7954 (phone) > 217-244-1478 (fax) > (personal comments only) > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sat Apr 28 16:48:14 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 16:48:14 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Local news coverage of Dershowitz, a couple seconds of the protestors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As I said deliberately in my second speech at the rally towards the end, Dershowitz is sick and demented to argue that he believes in Free Speech. He destroyed Norman Finkelstein’s entire academic career for publishing a scholarly book with the most distinguished University of California Press, if I remember correctly off the top of my head. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 11:27 AM To: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss ; Karen Aram Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Local news coverage of Dershowitz, a couple seconds of the protestors "That a foreign government should be directing Illinois' investment strategies is bad enough, but that it should be in support of racism, illegal occupation, and human rights abuses is outrageous." And as you and David Greene said so clearly on NFN yesterday, using our (federal) tax dollars and military support. There was a moment when D. began to say that Cynthia Nixon and her group has hurt Israel very much-he was serious- his tone changed from the rhetoric to what he seemed to really think. Unfortunately, we did not hear more than that. Per your request to see a copy of the flyer or its contents, Carl, hope you have found it. I was successful at scanning it yesterday, however ran into issues on our shared computer. It is just too beautiful out- have been gardening. You may find it at Jewish Voice for Peace. --Champaign-Urbana Chapter www.job.org. One side was mostly about the new " South Carolina law that makes campus speech codes against harassing and threatening speech use the State Department definition of anti-Semitism in order to discipline pro-Palestinian students and faculty." Would he condemn that law if he was truly in favor of free speech? The other side was headed "Free Speech, But Not For All," and was on BDS. Listed the goals of BDS, why BDS is not anti-Semitic, quoted a Quaker website and said many Jewish organizations support BDS. Thank you David and Carl for an excellent NFN yesterday. Helps me put into words what very few people are saying. Thank you, Ron for the PSL info. Off to dig and plant seeds elsewhere- not at Foellinger ;) Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LT E smartphone ------ Original message------ From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2018 8:56 AM To: Karen Aram; Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Local news coverage of Dershowitz, a couple seconds of the protestors The Channel 3 report does point out Dershowitz' particular concern, which seems to testify to the growing influence of the Boycott/Divestment/Sanctions movement: Dershowitz says, "[BDS] think they're going to bring back peace and they're just dead dead wrong. I support free speech, I support their right to tell their lies, and I support my right to call them lies. But I don't support their right to use the kind of economic discrimination that the Nazis used against the Jews in the 1930's when they boycotted Jewish stores." We should note the cowardly acquiescence of our local ‘liberal’ legislators, state senator Scott Bennett and state representative Carol Ammons (both Democrats), to the Israeli government’s interference in the Illinois legislature on this matter, in support of its racist policies in the territories that it illegally occupies. Three years ago Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner signed into law the first-ever state action against boycotts of Israeli apartheid - a bill requiring Illinois to identify companies that boycott Israel for its discrimination against Palestinians - and then to withhold investing Illinois pension f unds in those companies! Neither Bennett nor Ammons voted against the bill, which had been actively lobbied for by the Israeli consulate in Chicago. That a foreign government should be directing Illinois’ investment strategies is bad enough, but that it should be in support of racism, illegal occupation, and human rights abuses is outrageous. It has been observed that apartheid against Palestinians in the territories that Israel occupies is worse than the apartheid regime that existed in South Africa from 1948 to 1994. That system was based on the repression of the black (African, Coloured and Indian) majority of the population for the benefit of the politically and economically dominant group, Afrikaners. Bennett and Ammons would not have favored South African apartheid a generation ago. That they do so now, in Israel, is shameful. Another reason that the war-party/Democrats s hould not be supported, on the state or national level. —CGE On Apr 27, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: http://www.illinoishomepage.net/news/local-news/free-speech-forum-causes-controversy/1144749553 _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galliher at illinois.edu Sat Apr 28 16:54:44 2018 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 11:54:44 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Local news coverage of Dershowitz, a couple seconds of the protestors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <97B09972-9AC5-41D8-A366-95B86D8FBD21@illinois.edu> Yes, thanks to KA I have a copy of the JVP flyer. It seems to me excellent. If you’ve scanned it, it would be worthwhile to post it to "AWARE of Champaign Urbana Illinois” on Facebook - and elsewhere. But you're surely right that it was too beautiful out yesterday not to be gardening. (I might have done it myself - had the Red Sox not been playing…) Here’s what Dershowitz said about Cynthia Nixon a month ago: “...Dershowitz was referring to a September 2010 letter Nixon signed, joining together with150 American actors, writers, directors and other artists to voice support for Israeli actors who had declared they would not perform in the settlements, refusing to take their productions to a newly-built cultural center in the West Bank city of Ariel. The petitions signatories included Redgrave - along with actors Mandy Patinkin, Wallace Shawn and playwright Tony Kushner, and was organized by the Jewish Voice For Peace group that supports the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement is on Israel's BDS blacklist.” And thank you for the kind word about News from Neptune. —CGE > On Apr 28, 2018, at 11:27 AM, bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss wrote: > > "That a foreign government should be directing Illinois' investment strategies is bad enough, but that it should be in support of racism, illegal occupation, and human rights abuses is outrageous." > > And as you and David Greene said so clearly on NFN yesterday, using our (federal) tax dollars and military support. There was a moment when D. began to say that Cynthia Nixon and her group has hurt Israel very much-he was serious- his tone changed from the rhetoric to what he seemed to really think. Unfortunately, we did not hear more than that. > > Per your request to see a copy of the flyer or its contents, Carl, hope you have found it. I was successful at scanning it yesterday, however ran into issues on our shared computer. It is just too beautiful out- have been gardening. You may find it at Jewish Voice for Peace. --Champaign-Urbana Chapter www.job.org. One side was mostly about the new " South Carolina law that makes campus speech codes against harassing and threatening speech use the State Department definition of anti-Semitism in order to discipline pro-Palestinian students and faculty." Would he condemn that law if he was truly in favor of free speech? > The other side was headed "Free Speech, But Not For All," and was on BDS. Listed the goals of BDS, why BDS is not anti-Semitic, quoted a Quaker website and said many Jewish organizations support BDS. > Thank you David and Carl for an excellent NFN yesterday. Helps me put into words what very few people are saying. Thank you, Ron for the PSL info. > Off to dig and plant seeds elsewhere- not at Foellinger ;) > > Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LT E smartphone > > ------ Original message------ > From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss > Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2018 8:56 AM > To: Karen Aram; > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Local news coverage of Dershowitz, a couple seconds of the protestors > > The Channel 3 report does point out Dershowitz' particular concern, which seems to testify to the growing influence of the Boycott/Divestment/Sanctions movement: > > Dershowitz says, "[BDS] think they're going to bring back peace and they're just dead dead wrong. I support free speech, I support their right to tell their lies, and I support my right to call them lies. But I don't support their right to use the kind of economic discrimination that the Nazis used against the Jews in the 1930's when they boycotted Jewish stores." > > We should note the cowardly acquiescence of our local ‘liberal’ legislators, state senator Scott Bennett and state representative Carol Ammons (both Democrats), to the Israeli government’s interference in the Illinois legislature on this matter, in support of its racist policies in the territories that it illegally occupies. > > Three years ago Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner signed into law the first-ever state action against boycotts of Israeli apartheid - a bill requiring Illinois to identify companies that boycott Israel for its discrimination against Palestinians - and then to withhold investing Illinois pension f unds in those companies! Neither Bennett nor Ammons voted against the bill, which had been actively lobbied for by the Israeli consulate in Chicago. > > That a foreign government should be directing Illinois’ investment strategies is bad enough, but that it should be in support of racism, illegal occupation, and human rights abuses is outrageous. > > It has been observed that apartheid against Palestinians in the territories that Israel occupies is worse than the apartheid regime that existed in South Africa from 1948 to 1994. That system was based on the repression of the black (African, Coloured and Indian) majority of the population for the benefit of the politically and economically dominant group, Afrikaners. > > Bennett and Ammons would not have favored South African apartheid a generation ago. That they do so now, in Israel, is shameful. > > Another reason that the war-party/Democrats s hould not be supported, on the state or national level. —CGE > > >> On Apr 27, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> http://www.illinoishomepage.net/news/local-news/free-speech-forum-causes-controversy/1144749553 >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From galliher at illinois.edu Sat Apr 28 17:00:54 2018 From: galliher at illinois.edu (Carl G. Estabrook) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 12:00:54 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Lessons from our Rally? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Interesting. CVS is huge & expanding & perhaps thinking about whom it can & can’t offend: "In 2017, it ranked seventh on the Fortune 500 and 18th on the Fortune Global 500 list with $177B in annual revenue. In December 2017, CVS agreed to acquire Aetna for $69 billion." > On Apr 28, 2018, at 11:34 AM, bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss wrote: > > FyI: I do not know if BDS had anything do to with this, however: some months ago CVS changed one of my generic meds from one sourced from Teva, in Israel, to a company in China. At first I was reluctant to accept the change, then I heard about BDS, and decides to try the new med. Not perfect, but hey. I believe the new company is Solco and it is my blood pressure med > > Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > ------ Original message------ > From: Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss > Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2018 11:16 AM > To: Francis A Boyle; > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); > Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Lessons from our Rally? > > And I came away from the events around Dershowitz’ appearance with the (to me) surprising conclusion that the BDS movement (especially BD) is having an effect that the government of Israel and the Israeli lobby are desperate to counter. > > Despite the apparently legitimate criticisms of BDS by Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, and David Green, it seems that boycotts and divestment should be encouraged (as they would agree), while attention and opposition are focused on the primary and indispensable source of Israeli crimes, US foreign policy. > > —CGE > > > > On Apr 28, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: > > > > For what it is worth, I came away with three lessons from our Rally. Of course people are free to disagree with me and/or add their own lessons: > > > > 1. Dersh is a Chickenshit at Heart. > > 2. The Next Generation is with Palestine and the Palestinians. > > 3. Dersh et al. Days are numbered and they know it. > > fab > > > > Francis A. Boyle > > Law Building > > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. > > Champaign IL 61820 USA > > > 217-333-7954 > (phone) > > > 217-244-1478 > (fax) > > (personal comments only) > > > > ____________________ From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Apr 28 18:14:38 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 18:14:38 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Local news coverage of Dershowitz, a couple seconds of the protestors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Anne I gave Carl a hard copy of the JVP flyer yesterday, sorry, I should have informed you. On Apr 28, 2018, at 09:27, bjornsona at ameritech.net wrote: "That a foreign government should be directing Illinois' investment strategies is bad enough, but that it should be in support of racism, illegal occupation, and human rights abuses is outrageous." And as you and David Greene said so clearly on NFN yesterday, using our (federal) tax dollars and military support. There was a moment when D. began to say that Cynthia Nixon and her group has hurt Israel very much-he was serious- his tone changed from the rhetoric to what he seemed to really think. Unfortunately, we did not hear more than that. Per your request to see a copy of the flyer or its contents, Carl, hope you have found it. I was successful at scanning it yesterday, however ran into issues on our shared computer. It is just too beautiful out- have been gardening. You may find it at Jewish Voice for Peace. --Champaign-Urbana Chapter www.job.org. One side was mostly about the new " South Carolina law that makes campus speech codes against harassing and threatening speech use the State Department definition of anti-Semitism in order to discipline pro-Palestinian students and faculty." Would he condemn that law if he was truly in favor of free speech? The other side was headed "Free Speech, But Not For All," and was on BDS. Listed the goals of BDS, why BDS is not anti-Semitic, quoted a Quaker website and said many Jewish organizations support BDS. Thank you David and Carl for an excellent NFN yesterday. Helps me put into words what very few people are saying. Thank you, Ron for the PSL info. Off to dig and plant seeds elsewhere- not at Foellinger ;) Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------ Original message------ From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2018 8:56 AM To: Karen Aram; Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Local news coverage of Dershowitz, a couple seconds of the protestors The Channel 3 report does point out Dershowitz' particular concern, which seems to testify to the growing influence of the Boycott/Divestment/Sanctions movement: Dershowitz says, "[BDS] think they're going to bring back peace and they're just dead dead wrong. I support free speech, I support their right to tell their lies, and I support my right to call them lies. But I don't support their right to use the kind of economic discrimination that the Nazis used against the Jews in the 1930's when they boycotted Jewish stores." We should note the cowardly acquiescence of our local ‘liberal’ legislators, state senator Scott Bennett and state representative Carol Ammons (both Democrats), to the Israeli government’s interference in the Illinois legislature on this matter, in support of its racist policies in the territories that it illegally occupies. Three years ago Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner signed into law the first-ever state action against boycotts of Israeli apartheid - a bill requiring Illinois to identify companies that boycott Israel for its discrimination against Palestinians - and then to withhold investing Illinois pension funds in those companies! Neither Bennett nor Ammons voted against the bill, which had been actively lobbied for by the Israeli consulate in Chicago. That a foreign government should be directing Illinois’ investment strategies is bad enough, but that it should be in support of racism, illegal occupation, and human rights abuses is outrageous. It has been observed that apartheid against Palestinians in the territories that Israel occupies is worse than the apartheid regime that existed in South Africa from 1948 to 1994. That system was based on the repression of the black (African, Coloured and Indian) majority of the population for the benefit of the politically and economically dominant group, Afrikaners. Bennett and Ammons would not have favored South African apartheid a generation ago. That they do so now, in Israel, is shameful. Another reason that the war-party/Democrats should not be supported, on the state or national level. —CGE On Apr 27, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: http://www.illinoishomepage.net/news/local-news/free-speech-forum-causes-controversy/1144749553 _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Apr 28 18:31:30 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 18:31:30 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Lessons from our Rally? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Solvo is a US company out of NJ, located in China. Like all corporate owned US cos., many have the same investors, and where they operate has more to do with tax savings, lower labor costs, as well as environmental requirements by-passed. Sometimes lower shipping costs, depending on their markets. It’s known that many company’s that go bankrupt, and are then bought up, aren’t really bankrupt, but don’t want to pay their bills, bills in the millions or billions. > On Apr 28, 2018, at 10:00, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote: > > Interesting. CVS is huge & expanding & perhaps thinking about whom it can & can’t offend: > > "In 2017, it ranked seventh on the Fortune 500 and 18th on the Fortune Global 500 list with $177B in annual revenue. In December 2017, CVS agreed to acquire Aetna for $69 billion." > > >> On Apr 28, 2018, at 11:34 AM, bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> FyI: I do not know if BDS had anything do to with this, however: some months ago CVS changed one of my generic meds from one sourced from Teva, in Israel, to a company in China. At first I was reluctant to accept the change, then I heard about BDS, and decides to try the new med. Not perfect, but hey. I believe the new company is Solco and it is my blood pressure med >> >> Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone >> >> ------ Original message------ >> From: Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss >> Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2018 11:16 AM >> To: Francis A Boyle; >> Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net); >> Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Lessons from our Rally? >> >> And I came away from the events around Dershowitz’ appearance with the (to me) surprising conclusion that the BDS movement (especially BD) is having an effect that the government of Israel and the Israeli lobby are desperate to counter. >> >> Despite the apparently legitimate criticisms of BDS by Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, and David Green, it seems that boycotts and divestment should be encouraged (as they would agree), while attention and opposition are focused on the primary and indispensable source of Israeli crimes, US foreign policy. >> >> —CGE >> >> >>> On Apr 28, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss >> wrote: >>> >>> For what it is worth, I came away with three lessons from our Rally. Of course people are free to disagree with me and/or add their own lessons: >>> >>> 1. Dersh is a Chickenshit at Heart. >>> 2. The Next Generation is with Palestine and the Palestinians. >>> 3. Dersh et al. Days are numbered and they know it. >>> fab >>> >>> Francis A. Boyle >>> Law Building >>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. >>> Champaign IL 61820 USA >>> >> 217-333-7954 >> (phone) >>> >> 217-244-1478 >> (fax) >>> (personal comments only) >>> >>> ____________________ > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From davidgreen50 at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 15:05:32 2018 From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 10:05:32 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Korea & liberal War Party Message-ID: The viciousness and cynicism of War Party liberals is on full display (Kristoff, Dowd) on the NYT op-ed page. God forbid peace should break out on Trump's watch. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/28/opinion/sunday/trump-our-cartoon-nobel-laureate.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/opinion/sunday/north-korea-south-kim-jong-un.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Sun Apr 29 15:10:33 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 15:10:33 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Korea & liberal War Party In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Agreed! It is a very encouraging sign. The problem here is that the Neo-Cons sabotaged the last two agreements with DPRK. And now Bolton and Pompeo are both right in there. Fab. Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:41 AM To: sectns.aals at lists.aals.org Subject: [SECTNS.aals] - Statement for Chicago Peace Rally Today against threatened USA War Against North Korea. Ok. Here is a Statement below dealing with the legal aspects of the situation. Thanks for doing this protest. Fab. 1.The US government threats of “preventive warfare” against DPRK are illegal and criminal. The Nuremberg Tribunal in their Judgment of 1946, which the US helped organize, condemned “preventive war” when the Lawyers for the Nazis made the argument on their behalf. This is an illegal and criminal threat in violation of international law. According to the World Court in its Advisory Opinion (1996) on the Threat or Use of Nuclear Weapons, the legality vel non of a threat stands or falls on the same legal grounds as if the threat were carried out. 2.The repeated US government threats to “destroy” or “annihilate” DPRK are an international crime under the 1948 Genocide Convention to which the United States is a party. These genocidal threats are also illegal and criminal under the rationale of the 1996 World Court Advisory Opinion mentioned above. 3.The United States has an absolute obligation under UN Charter article 2(3) and article 33 to open “negotiation” with DPRK in good faith in order to produce a peace resolution of this dispute. Instead, the US government has repeatedly rejected these obligations under the UN Charter. 4.The proposal by Russia and China for a “dual-freeze” is an excellent basis to produce good faith and direct negotiations between USA and DPRK as required by the UN Charter. 5.The United States is deliberately provoking DPRK, ratcheting up these provocations in the hope that they will provoke the DPRK to commit an act of aggression against the United States that the USA can then use as a pretext for war. Pursuant to the terms of their mutual self-defense treaty, China has stated that if the US attacks first it will defend DPRK, but that if DPRK strikes first, China will remain out of any war. So the United States is trying to provoke DPRK into striking first. 6.It is an extremely dangerous situation. It is really up to the United States to take the first step down the Ladder of Escalation that it has constructed here. Instead it appears that the Trump administration is going to escalate up the Ladder of Escalation in the hope and expectation that DPRK will capitulate. This is what International Political Scientists call a Game of Chicken-- with cosmic consequences. Who will blink first? Anything can go wrong. Thank you so much for being here today to prevent World War III. Francis A. Boyle Professor of Law University of Illinois College of Law Native Chicagoan Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of David Green via Peace-discuss Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 10:06 AM To: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: [Peace-discuss] Korea & liberal War Party The viciousness and cynicism of War Party liberals is on full display (Kristoff, Dowd) on the NYT op-ed page. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Apr 29 15:24:29 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 15:24:29 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: [New post] The rise and fall of the Thai Communist Party References: <61854989.1967.0@wordpress.com> Message-ID: New post on Uglytruth-Thailand [http://s0.wp.com/i/emails/blavatar.png] [http://2.gravatar.com/avatar/b94c98491e599510a5ec039e64af3261?s=50&d=identicon&r=G] The rise and fall of the Thai Communist Party by uglytruththailand Giles Ji Ungpakorn The Communist Party of Thailand (CPT) was established in the late 1920s and played an important role in the struggle against the military dictatorship from the mid-1960s to the mid-1980s. The high point of struggle for the CPT was when student activists started to support the party in the 1970s. Many people are aware of the uprisings around the world in 1968. The struggles by Thai activists also formed part of this wave of radicalism, leading to the 1973 uprising which overthrew the Tanom military dictatorship. On 14th October 1973 half a million people, mainly young school and university students, but also ordinary working people, protested around the Democracy Monument. The wave of student revolts and the activism among young people in Western Europe and the United States were the inspiration which ignited the left-wing struggles in the early 1970s in Thailand. Libertarian left-wing ideas from the Western movements entered Thai society by way of news reports, articles, books, music and the return of Thai students from the West, especially art students in the first instance. The victory of Communist Parties in Indochina, after the USA began to lose the war in Vietnam, and Mao’s Cultural Revolution, also had a massive impact in igniting struggles for a new society in Thailand. As always, the Thai ruling class reacted with violence against the rising left-wing movement, using armed thugs, soldiers and police. The height of this violence was the massacre at Thammasart University on 6th October 1976. This destroyed the democratic space created by the 1973 uprising and led directly to an intensification of the armed struggle in the countryside led by the CPT. Thousands of urban activists and students travelled to the CPT bases. [https://uglytruththailand.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/spd_20130217214852_b.jpg?w=197] But the problem with the CPT’s Maoist strategy was that it more or less abandoned the city and the working class. The CPT argued that since the cities were the centre of ruling class power, a communist victory in Thailand would only come about by surrounding the cities with “liberated zones”. Their Maoist strategy meant that they never at any time planned to resist the right-wing backlash in Bangkok. Yet, since 1932, all significant social changes have taken place due to struggles in urban areas, especially in Bangkok. The CPT was also an authoritarian “top-down” Stalinist party and this did not sit well with the libertarian views of many students. In addition to this, the struggle by small farmers, which the Maoists favoured, was fundamentally a defensive and conservative struggle to survive, not a struggle for a future society. What was missing from the CPT’s strategy in the late 1970s was trying to build the party among urban workers so that it could organise mass strikes. Previously the CPT had some influence among unions and large strikes had taken place. However, the turn to Maoism changed the party’s emphasis. The CPT analysis of Thailand was that it was a semi-feudal semi-colony of the USA. The immediate aim of the struggle, according to the party, was for national liberation and capitalist democracy, which was called the “national democratic stage of the revolution”. The aim of building socialism was postponed to some future date. Yet Thailand was never a colony of the USA and feudalism had been abolished during the nation building process at the end of the 19th century. The party adopted a Stalinist/Maoist cross-class alliance policy of working with the military dictators, “progressive capitalists” and nationalists. At one time the CPT even supported General Sarit before he became a right-wing dictator. The repression carried out by the military against the CPT did not change the party’s policies towards “progressive capitalists” and nationalists. It merely meant that the party was forced to fight the military dictatorship, which was now characterised as being in alliance with US imperialism. The lack of progress in the armed struggle, carried out from jungle hide-outs, and the fact that China established friendly relations with the Thai government threw the CPT into confusion. Most student activists were demoralised and returned to the city. The students were also unhappy with the authoritarian nature of the party. The destruction of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the European Stalinist regimes was the last nail in the coffin of the CPT. Those who left the CPT jungle strong-holds and returned to mainstream society, while still being politically active, became divided into three main groups. The first group eventually found a home in Taksin’s Thai Rak Thai Party (TRT) and the red shirts. They were attracted to TRT’s pro-poor policies and the Stalinist-Maoist policy of building alliances with “progressive business people” helped legitimise their alliance with Taksin. Pumtam, a prominent TRT politician, boasted that they had now “seized state power” without the privations of living in the jungle camps. Both Weng and Tida, UDD red shirt leaders, were once high ranking officials of the CPT. The second group of activists set up NGOs and turned their backs on big picture politics. Their aim was to lobby the elites and use foreign funds to help poor villagers. They rejected the idea of the need for a progressive political party, believing that all parties would tend to authoritarianism. They also rejected representative democracy and wished to ignore the state. These anarchistic ideas de-politicised and weakened the NGOs and meant that they failed to build mass movements and any political power. Instead their NGOs functioned like authoritarian small businesses. When Taksin’s TRT came to power and used state funds to improve the lives of villagers in a significant manner, the NGOs turned their anger on the government which was making the previous efforts of the NGOs look irrelevant. But the NGOs lacked a mass movement and any political leverage. They therefore built a reactionary alliance with the yellow shirts and welcomed the intervention of the military against Taksin’s elected government. The third group of activists who left the jungle became academics. Almost all of them drew the conclusion that “Socialism was finished”, despite the fact that what was really finished was Stalinism and the authoritarian State Capitalist regimes in Russia and Eastern Europe. The real world choice was never just between Stalinist State Capitalism and free market Capitalism. There was always a third choice of “socialism from below” as represented by the ideas of Marx, Lenin, Trotsky and Luxemburg. Many of these academics became right-wing apologists for the military and some cooperated with the military on anti-reform committees. But the idea of “socialism from below” remains a living spark in some sections of Thai society, waiting to be ignited. uglytruththailand | April 29, 2018 at 5:00 am | Tags: 6th October 1976, Communist Party of Thailand, Giles Ji Ungpakorn, Maoism, Marxism, Stalinism, Thai politics | Categories: Thai politics | URL: https://wp.me/p4bxj7-vJ Unsubscribe to no longer receive posts from Uglytruth-Thailand. Change your email settings at Manage Subscriptions. Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: https://uglytruththailand.wordpress.com/2018/04/29/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-thai-communist-party/ Thanks for flying with [https://s0.wp.com/i/emails/blavatar-default.png] WordPress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 15:36:07 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 10:36:07 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Korea & liberal War Party In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5889497F-5FD3-4B84-A69E-21DE8C32B9B6@gmail.com> Exactly. Out anti-war activities should be directed against them - and not undermining Trump’s proposed meetings with Kim Jong-un and Putin. We need a flyer to this effect for next Saturday’s AWARE demonstration. > On Apr 29, 2018, at 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: > > The viciousness and cynicism of War Party liberals is on full display (Kristoff, Dowd) on the NYT op-ed page. God forbid peace should break out on Trump's watch. > > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/28/opinion/sunday/trump-our-cartoon-nobel-laureate.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/opinion/sunday/north-korea-south-kim-jong-un.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Apr 29 15:37:39 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 15:37:39 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Fwd: [New post] The rise and fall of the Thai Communist Party References: Message-ID: Another article related to Thailand, that applies to all, with his analysis of what could work, and what didn’t. I think the biggest mistake: (At one time the CPT even supported General Sarit before he became a right-wing dictator. The repression carried out by the military against the CPT did not change the party’s policies towards “progressive capitalists” and nationalists. It merely meant that the party was forced to fight the military dictatorship, which was now characterised as being in alliance with US imperialism.”) New post on Uglytruth-Thailand [http://s0.wp.com/i/emails/blavatar.png] [http://2.gravatar.com/avatar/b94c98491e599510a5ec039e64af3261?s=50&d=identicon&r=G] The rise and fall of the Thai Communist Party by uglytruththailand Giles Ji Ungpakorn The Communist Party of Thailand (CPT) was established in the late 1920s and played an important role in the struggle against the military dictatorship from the mid-1960s to the mid-1980s. The high point of struggle for the CPT was when student activists started to support the party in the 1970s. Many people are aware of the uprisings around the world in 1968. The struggles by Thai activists also formed part of this wave of radicalism, leading to the 1973 uprising which overthrew the Tanom military dictatorship. On 14th October 1973 half a million people, mainly young school and university students, but also ordinary working people, protested around the Democracy Monument. The wave of student revolts and the activism among young people in Western Europe and the United States were the inspiration which ignited the left-wing struggles in the early 1970s in Thailand. Libertarian left-wing ideas from the Western movements entered Thai society by way of news reports, articles, books, music and the return of Thai students from the West, especially art students in the first instance. The victory of Communist Parties in Indochina, after the USA began to lose the war in Vietnam, and Mao’s Cultural Revolution, also had a massive impact in igniting struggles for a new society in Thailand. As always, the Thai ruling class reacted with violence against the rising left-wing movement, using armed thugs, soldiers and police. The height of this violence was the massacre at Thammasart University on 6th October 1976. This destroyed the democratic space created by the 1973 uprising and led directly to an intensification of the armed struggle in the countryside led by the CPT. Thousands of urban activists and students travelled to the CPT bases. [https://uglytruththailand.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/spd_20130217214852_b.jpg?w=197] But the problem with the CPT’s Maoist strategy was that it more or less abandoned the city and the working class. The CPT argued that since the cities were the centre of ruling class power, a communist victory in Thailand would only come about by surrounding the cities with “liberated zones”. Their Maoist strategy meant that they never at any time planned to resist the right-wing backlash in Bangkok. Yet, since 1932, all significant social changes have taken place due to struggles in urban areas, especially in Bangkok. The CPT was also an authoritarian “top-down” Stalinist party and this did not sit well with the libertarian views of many students. In addition to this, the struggle by small farmers, which the Maoists favoured, was fundamentally a defensive and conservative struggle to survive, not a struggle for a future society. What was missing from the CPT’s strategy in the late 1970s was trying to build the party among urban workers so that it could organise mass strikes. Previously the CPT had some influence among unions and large strikes had taken place. However, the turn to Maoism changed the party’s emphasis. The CPT analysis of Thailand was that it was a semi-feudal semi-colony of the USA. The immediate aim of the struggle, according to the party, was for national liberation and capitalist democracy, which was called the “national democratic stage of the revolution”. The aim of building socialism was postponed to some future date. Yet Thailand was never a colony of the USA and feudalism had been abolished during the nation building process at the end of the 19th century. The party adopted a Stalinist/Maoist cross-class alliance policy of working with the military dictators, “progressive capitalists” and nationalists. At one time the CPT even supported General Sarit before he became a right-wing dictator. The repression carried out by the military against the CPT did not change the party’s policies towards “progressive capitalists” and nationalists. It merely meant that the party was forced to fight the military dictatorship, which was now characterised as being in alliance with US imperialism. The lack of progress in the armed struggle, carried out from jungle hide-outs, and the fact that China established friendly relations with the Thai government threw the CPT into confusion. Most student activists were demoralised and returned to the city. The students were also unhappy with the authoritarian nature of the party. The destruction of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the European Stalinist regimes was the last nail in the coffin of the CPT. Those who left the CPT jungle strong-holds and returned to mainstream society, while still being politically active, became divided into three main groups. The first group eventually found a home in Taksin’s Thai Rak Thai Party (TRT) and the red shirts. They were attracted to TRT’s pro-poor policies and the Stalinist-Maoist policy of building alliances with “progressive business people” helped legitimise their alliance with Taksin. Pumtam, a prominent TRT politician, boasted that they had now “seized state power” without the privations of living in the jungle camps. Both Weng and Tida, UDD red shirt leaders, were once high ranking officials of the CPT. The second group of activists set up NGOs and turned their backs on big picture politics. Their aim was to lobby the elites and use foreign funds to help poor villagers. They rejected the idea of the need for a progressive political party, believing that all parties would tend to authoritarianism. They also rejected representative democracy and wished to ignore the state. These anarchistic ideas de-politicised and weakened the NGOs and meant that they failed to build mass movements and any political power. Instead their NGOs functioned like authoritarian small businesses. When Taksin’s TRT came to power and used state funds to improve the lives of villagers in a significant manner, the NGOs turned their anger on the government which was making the previous efforts of the NGOs look irrelevant. But the NGOs lacked a mass movement and any political leverage. They therefore built a reactionary alliance with the yellow shirts and welcomed the intervention of the military against Taksin’s elected government. The third group of activists who left the jungle became academics. Almost all of them drew the conclusion that “Socialism was finished”, despite the fact that what was really finished was Stalinism and the authoritarian State Capitalist regimes in Russia and Eastern Europe. The real world choice was never just between Stalinist State Capitalism and free market Capitalism. There was always a third choice of “socialism from below” as represented by the ideas of Marx, Lenin, Trotsky and Luxemburg. Many of these academics became right-wing apologists for the military and some cooperated with the military on anti-reform committees. But the idea of “socialism from below” remains a living spark in some sections of Thai society, waiting to be ignited. uglytruththailand | April 29, 2018 at 5:00 am | Tags: 6th October 1976, Communist Party of Thailand, Giles Ji Ungpakorn, Maoism, Marxism, Stalinism, Thai politics | Categories: Thai politics | URL: https://wp.me/p4bxj7-vJ Unsubscribe to no longer receive posts from Uglytruth-Thailand. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Apr 29 15:59:42 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 15:59:42 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Korea & liberal War Party In-Reply-To: <5889497F-5FD3-4B84-A69E-21DE8C32B9B6@gmail.com> References: <5889497F-5FD3-4B84-A69E-21DE8C32B9B6@gmail.com> Message-ID: I’m unable to access the articles below, however my opinion is: giving too much credit to Trump for this turn of events, is ridiculous. The anti-war movement in S. Korea, with the election of a President who is not in the back pocket of the US, has more to do with “peace breaking out” than anything else. One should not undermine the abilities of Asians to manage their own affairs without US influence or intervention. The assumption that everything they do is due to “US influence or intervention” is patronizing. Most obvious is the NYT’s as well as other US media, insistence on a “wedge between Lil Kim, of N.Korea and Xi Jinping of China,” denying the dependence of N. Korea on China for imports, business investments, and security if nothing else. Geopolitics has much more to do with a peace resolution in the region than anything Trump or any other US President says or does. China works behind the scenes to accomplish its goals, unlike the US using a bullhorn at every turn. The only congratulations due to Trump is his ability to play the “crazy” card, and scare everyone into joining hands against the US maniac’s. I suggest this turn of events would have happened no matter what. What now needs to be watched carefully is the US reaction and what is to come, given this 2nd., failure, of the “pivot to Asia,” the first being the Filipino President ignoring the ICC ruling on the “island contentions” with China, another case of Asians ignoring US provocations to war. On Apr 29, 2018, at 08:36, C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss > wrote: Exactly. Out anti-war activities should be directed against them - and not undermining Trump’s proposed meetings with Kim Jong-un and Putin. We need a flyer to this effect for next Saturday’s AWARE demonstration. On Apr 29, 2018, at 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss > wrote: The viciousness and cynicism of War Party liberals is on full display (Kristoff, Dowd) on the NYT op-ed page. God forbid peace should break out on Trump's watch. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/28/opinion/sunday/trump-our-cartoon-nobel-laureate.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/opinion/sunday/north-korea-south-kim-jong-un.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuartnlevy at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 16:20:18 2018 From: stuartnlevy at gmail.com (Stuart Levy) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 11:20:18 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Korea & liberal War Party In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <99aec054-bf00-a5ad-1d14-0afc2dbd4e38@gmail.com> I haven't read the Kristoff piece yet, but how are you reading Dowd as cynically opposing peace between the Koreas?    Look, she says: > But for the moment, President Trump’s peculiar form of diplomacy — a > combination of belligerence, bluster, name-calling and ignorance of > history — has somehow produced a possible breakthrough in North Korea > that eluded his predecessors. She's pointing out that Trump is, despite frantic opposition, actually getting this right - she seems be not at all ironic in saying that if successful, Trump unlike Kissinger would actually deserve a Nobel Peace Prize - and also pointing out that the Dems are hanging themselves if they think that all they need to be is anti-Trump.   This sounds pretty good to me.   What am I missing? On 04/29/2018 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: > The viciousness and cynicism of War Party liberals is on full display > (Kristoff, Dowd) on the NYT op-ed page. God forbid peace should break > out on Trump's watch. > > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/28/opinion/sunday/trump-our-cartoon-nobel-laureate.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/opinion/sunday/north-korea-south-kim-jong-un.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From davidgreen50 at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 17:00:49 2018 From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:00:49 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Korea & liberal War Party In-Reply-To: <99aec054-bf00-a5ad-1d14-0afc2dbd4e38@gmail.com> References: <99aec054-bf00-a5ad-1d14-0afc2dbd4e38@gmail.com> Message-ID: Here we have one of the most positive things in years, and Dowd is more concerned about being snarky then about objectively analyzing what Trump may have had or not had to do with it, and how she herself might understand the situation in a way that would, in fair and realistic as well as hopeful terms, help to move the process forward. The liberal establishment does NOT want Trump to be able to take credit for any of this, fairly or unfairly, for reasons that have to do with the general geopolitics of the ruling class, and the specific ambitions of the Democratic Party. On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Stuart Levy wrote: > I haven't read the Kristoff piece yet, but how are you reading Dowd as > cynically opposing peace between the Koreas? Look, she says: > > But for the moment, President Trump’s peculiar form of diplomacy — a > combination of belligerence, bluster, name-calling and ignorance of history > — has somehow produced a possible breakthrough in North Korea that eluded > his predecessors. > > She's pointing out that Trump is, despite frantic opposition, actually > getting this right - she seems be not at all ironic in saying that if > successful, Trump unlike Kissinger would actually deserve a Nobel Peace > Prize - and also pointing out that the Dems are hanging themselves if they > think that all they need to be is anti-Trump. This sounds pretty good to > me. What am I missing? > > > On 04/29/2018 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: > > The viciousness and cynicism of War Party liberals is on full display > (Kristoff, Dowd) on the NYT op-ed page. God forbid peace should break out > on Trump's watch. > > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/28/opinion/sunday/trump- > our-cartoon-nobel-laureate.html?action=click&pgtype= > Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col- > left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav= > opinion-c-col-left-region > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/opinion/sunday/north- > korea-south-kim-jong-un.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage& > clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left- > region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing listPeace-discuss at lists.chambana.nethttps://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Apr 29 17:01:05 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 17:01:05 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Korea & liberal War Party In-Reply-To: <99aec054-bf00-a5ad-1d14-0afc2dbd4e38@gmail.com> References: <99aec054-bf00-a5ad-1d14-0afc2dbd4e38@gmail.com> Message-ID: Trump receiving the Nobel Peace prize will put him in good company with Kissinger and Obama. My point being its ridiculous to consider the Nobel prize of any value after those two received it. Again, I say we focus too much on what Trump said or did in respect to peace breaking out on the Korean penisula. It is on Trumps watch so he will get credit for Korean peace, along with Obama receiving credit for the Iran nuclear deal. The deal that Trump is looking at “unraveling” if that is the correct term. On Apr 29, 2018, at 09:20, Stuart Levy via Peace-discuss > wrote: I haven't read the Kristoff piece yet, but how are you reading Dowd as cynically opposing peace between the Koreas? Look, she says: But for the moment, President Trump’s peculiar form of diplomacy — a combination of belligerence, bluster, name-calling and ignorance of history — has somehow produced a possible breakthrough in North Korea that eluded his predecessors. She's pointing out that Trump is, despite frantic opposition, actually getting this right - she seems be not at all ironic in saying that if successful, Trump unlike Kissinger would actually deserve a Nobel Peace Prize - and also pointing out that the Dems are hanging themselves if they think that all they need to be is anti-Trump. This sounds pretty good to me. What am I missing? On 04/29/2018 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: The viciousness and cynicism of War Party liberals is on full display (Kristoff, Dowd) on the NYT op-ed page. God forbid peace should break out on Trump's watch. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/28/opinion/sunday/trump-our-cartoon-nobel-laureate.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/opinion/sunday/north-korea-south-kim-jong-un.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidgreen50 at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 17:08:57 2018 From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:08:57 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Korea & liberal War Party In-Reply-To: References: <99aec054-bf00-a5ad-1d14-0afc2dbd4e38@gmail.com> Message-ID: I would add that, yes, Dowd steps back and is critical of Democrats, and is astute about their "dilemma" in relation to Trump's diplomacy. But of course this process has been driven from Korea itself, and it seems cynical, not just skeptical, not to emphasize that. But of course Kristoff is worse, in terms of his own human rights hypocrisy. On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:00 PM, David Green wrote: > Here we have one of the most positive things in years, and Dowd is more > concerned about being snarky then about objectively analyzing what Trump > may have had or not had to do with it, and how she herself might understand > the situation in a way that would, in fair and realistic as well as hopeful > terms, help to move the process forward. The liberal establishment does NOT > want Trump to be able to take credit for any of this, fairly or unfairly, > for reasons that have to do with the general geopolitics of the ruling > class, and the specific ambitions of the Democratic Party. > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Stuart Levy > wrote: > >> I haven't read the Kristoff piece yet, but how are you reading Dowd as >> cynically opposing peace between the Koreas? Look, she says: >> >> But for the moment, President Trump’s peculiar form of diplomacy — a >> combination of belligerence, bluster, name-calling and ignorance of history >> — has somehow produced a possible breakthrough in North Korea that eluded >> his predecessors. >> >> She's pointing out that Trump is, despite frantic opposition, actually >> getting this right - she seems be not at all ironic in saying that if >> successful, Trump unlike Kissinger would actually deserve a Nobel Peace >> Prize - and also pointing out that the Dems are hanging themselves if they >> think that all they need to be is anti-Trump. This sounds pretty good to >> me. What am I missing? >> >> >> On 04/29/2018 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> The viciousness and cynicism of War Party liberals is on full display >> (Kristoff, Dowd) on the NYT op-ed page. God forbid peace should break out >> on Trump's watch. >> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/28/opinion/sunday/trump-our- >> cartoon-nobel-laureate.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage& >> clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left- >> region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region >> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/opinion/sunday/north-kore >> a-south-kim-jong-un.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickS >> ource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region& >> region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing listPeace-discuss at lists.chambana.nethttps://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Apr 29 17:26:36 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 17:26:36 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Korea & liberal War Party In-Reply-To: References: <99aec054-bf00-a5ad-1d14-0afc2dbd4e38@gmail.com> Message-ID: There are some people theorizing that Trump is now attempting to bring N.K. into the US sphere of influence in order to further a wedge between Lil Kim and China. Any assumption that the Leader of N. Korea is not aware of the “duplicity” utilized by the US, is laughable. Any assumption that the Asian leaders are “stupid” or lacking knowledge of history and US hegemony shows our ignorance. Even, Japan, a US proxy for many years, would like to out of the US sphere of influence, and has been nurturing Chinese favor by way of business interests for many years. In short, the US is losing in our attempts to control Asia, but there is “nothing more dangerous than an army, when in retreat.” On Apr 29, 2018, at 10:08, David Green via Peace-discuss > wrote: I would add that, yes, Dowd steps back and is critical of Democrats, and is astute about their "dilemma" in relation to Trump's diplomacy. But of course this process has been driven from Korea itself, and it seems cynical, not just skeptical, not to emphasize that. But of course Kristoff is worse, in terms of his own human rights hypocrisy. On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:00 PM, David Green > wrote: Here we have one of the most positive things in years, and Dowd is more concerned about being snarky then about objectively analyzing what Trump may have had or not had to do with it, and how she herself might understand the situation in a way that would, in fair and realistic as well as hopeful terms, help to move the process forward. The liberal establishment does NOT want Trump to be able to take credit for any of this, fairly or unfairly, for reasons that have to do with the general geopolitics of the ruling class, and the specific ambitions of the Democratic Party. On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Stuart Levy > wrote: I haven't read the Kristoff piece yet, but how are you reading Dowd as cynically opposing peace between the Koreas? Look, she says: But for the moment, President Trump’s peculiar form of diplomacy — a combination of belligerence, bluster, name-calling and ignorance of history — has somehow produced a possible breakthrough in North Korea that eluded his predecessors. She's pointing out that Trump is, despite frantic opposition, actually getting this right - she seems be not at all ironic in saying that if successful, Trump unlike Kissinger would actually deserve a Nobel Peace Prize - and also pointing out that the Dems are hanging themselves if they think that all they need to be is anti-Trump. This sounds pretty good to me. What am I missing? On 04/29/2018 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote: The viciousness and cynicism of War Party liberals is on full display (Kristoff, Dowd) on the NYT op-ed page. God forbid peace should break out on Trump's watch. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/28/opinion/sunday/trump-our-cartoon-nobel-laureate.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/opinion/sunday/north-korea-south-kim-jong-un.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Apr 29 17:43:07 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 17:43:07 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] NFN Message-ID: The most recent NFN was quite good as usual. Many things covered. I always enjoy the discussions delving deeper than mere surface provided. I’m still not as clear on BDS as I would like to be, I like Carl’s suggestion that we support it, whether a tactic/strategy or movement. Sometimes we have to ignore the flaws for the greater good, though discourse is always important. When BDS was used against South Africa, the Indians were unfairly targeted, as they too had been victims of apartheid, there is always a risk. Thus such sanctions as preventing medicines should never be applied given the harm to innocents imposed, as was the case in Iraq. When calling for the implementation of sanctions against the Burmese regime in the 90’s, we clarified it as “business and investment.” Thus doing no harm. I think applying “class” to the situation in Israel, maybe as necessary there as it is everywhere else in the world, just as it is so important here in the US, with all other issues being secondary. Not to diminish the other issues such as race or gender discrimination, but because only through eradication of poverty, and changing our system of “for profit” can we attempt to deal with all other issues that fall under capitalism. Thats not to say I support nationalism, in fact one should expect elimination of capitalism would result in a land without borders, or walls. From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Apr 30 12:44:10 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 12:44:10 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] So much for peace on the Korean peninsula, however with reunification, it may not be so easy to control our economic sanctions. Message-ID: [A missile is launched during a long and medium-range ballistic rocket launch drill in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang on August 30, 2017.] Trump to Demand Full Removal of N. Korea's Nuclear, Ballistic Arsenal – Bolton © REUTERS / KCNA MILITARY & INTELLIGENCE 23:08 29.04.2018Get short URL 20336 MOSCOW (Sputnik) - US President Donald Trump intends to seek complete elimination of the North Korean nuclear and ballistic missile arsenal before making concessions to Pyongyang in lifting economic sanctions from the country, US National Security Adviser John Bolton told Fox News on Sunday. When asked whether Trump would make concessions to Kim only after North Korea completely destroys its missile and nuclear potential, Bolton answered positively. "Yes, I think that's what denuclearization means. We have very much in mind the Libya model [of complete elimination of weapons in question] from 2003, 2004 [when the country joined the UN convention on eliminating chemical weapons]… The Libyan program was much smaller, but that was basically the agreement that we made," he said as quoted by Fox News. [Surveillance] CC0 / PIXABAY Little Help From My Friends: US Intel Requests Firms' Aid in Tracking Military Objects in N Korea - Reports Bolton also confirmed that the United States would start lifting economic sanctions from North Korea only after full denuclearization. Last week, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said that his country would stop nuclear tests and launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles as well as shut down a nuclear test site. Trump has welcomed the announcement calling it a "big progress." 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[mailto:clarity at islandnet.com] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:10 PM To: Boyle, Francis A Subject: BOOK: Destroying Libya and World Order/ Boyle A classic case study of the conduct of US foreign policy as it relates to international law [http://www.claritypress.com/sitebuilder/images/Destroying_Libya_and_World_Order_small_011613-400x600.jpg] DESTROYING LIBYA AND WORLD ORDER The Three-Decade U.S. Campaign to Terminate the Qaddafi Revolution by FRANCIS A. BOYLE ISBN: 978-0-9853353-7-3 $18.95 / 212 pp. / 2013 “Let the free people of the world know that we could have bargained over and sold out our cause in return for a personal secure and stable life. We received many offers to this effect but we chose to be at the vanguard of the confrontation as a badge of duty and honour. Even if we do not win immediately, we will give a lesson to future generations that choosing to protect the nation is an honour and selling it out is the greatest betrayal that history will remember forever despite the attempts of the others to tell you otherwise.” Muammar Qaddafi* “Qaddafi website publishes ‘last will’ of Libyan ex-leader”, BBC News, 23/10/2011 SYNOPSIS It took three decades for the United States government—spanning and working assiduously over five different presidential administrations (Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II , and Obama)—to terminate the 1969 Qaddafi Revolution, seize control over Libya’s oil fields, and dismantle its Jamahiriya system. This book tells the story of what happened, why it happened, and what was both wrong and illegal with that from the perspective of an international law professor and lawyer who tried for over three decades to stop it. Francis Boyle provides a comprehensive history and critique of American foreign policy toward Libya from when the Reagan administration came to power in January of 1981 up to the 2011 NA TO war on Libya that ultimately achieved the US goal of regime change, and beyond. He sets the record straight on the series of military conflicts and crises between the United States and Libya over the Gulf of Sidra, exposing the Reagan administration’s fraudulent claims of Libyan instigation of international terrorism put forward over his eight years in office. Boyle reveals the inside story behind the Lockerbie bombing cases against the United States and the United Kingdom that he filed at the World Court for Colonel Qaddafi acting upon his advice—and the unjust resolution of those disputes. Deploying standard criteria of international law, Boyle analyzes and debunks the UN R2P “responsibility to protect” doctrine and its immediate predecessor,“humanitarian intervention”. He addresses how R2P served as the basis for the NATO assault on Libya in 2011, overriding the UN Charter commitment to state sovereignty and prevention of aggression. The purported NATO protection in actuality led to 50,000 Libyan casualties, and the complete breakdown of law and order. And this is just the beginning. Boyle lays out the ramifications: the destabilization of the Maghreb and Sahel, and the French intervention in Mali—with the USA/NATO/Europe starting a new imperial scramble for the natural resources of Africa. This book is not only a classic case study of the conduct of US foreign policy as it relates to international law, but a damning indictment of the newly-contrived R2P doctrine as legal cover for Western intervention into thiird world countries. TABLE OF CONTENTS Introduction Chapter 1. Using International Law to Analyze American Foreign Policy Decision-Making. Chapter 2. The Confrontation Between the Reagan Administration and Libya over the Gulf of Sidra and Terrorism Chapter 3. The Reagan Administration’s Criminal Bombings of Tripoli and Benghazi Chapter 4. Resolving the Lockerbie Dispute by Means of International Law. Chapter 5. Responsibility to Protect (R2P) versus International Law. Chapter 6. The 2011 U.S./NATO War Against Libya. Conclusion AUTHOR FRANCIS A. BOYLE is a leading American expert in international law. He was responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention. He served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia-Herzegovina at the World Court. He served as legal adviser to the Palestinian Delegation to the Middle East peace negotiations from 1991 to 1993. In 2007, he delivered the Bertrand Russell Peace Lectures. Professor Boyle teaches international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign and is author of, inter alia, The Future of International Law and American Foreign Policy, Foundations of World Order, The Criminality of Nuclear Deterrence, Palestine, Palestinians and International Law, Destroying World Order, Biowarfare and Terrorism, Tackling America's Toughest Problems, and The Tamil Genocide by Sri Lanka. He holds a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University. [http://www.claritypress.com/sitebuilder/images/th_1_-226x246.jpg] View other Clarity Press titles on the Middle East Available now from Clarity Acquire this book from amazon.com Overseas orders from Marston Books, UK CLARITY PRESS, INC http://www.claritypress.com You are presently listed as a subscriber for press releases from Clarity Press, Inc. To unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naiman at justforeignpolicy.org Mon Apr 30 13:16:13 2018 From: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (Robert Naiman) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:16:13 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] So much for peace on the Korean peninsula, however with reunification, it may not be so easy to control our economic sanctions. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I wouldn't necessarily read too much into this. The U.S. always goes into negotiations with the public story being their maximal demands. It's the same way the Obama Administration went into the Iran nuclear talks. Part of the theory is: don't concede anything in public until there's a deal. If there's no deal people will attack the concession and there's nothing to show for it. In the context of a deal, one can say, ok, you didn't like this concession, but here's what we got in exchange. And there was no way to get that without making that concession. And besides, it's a done deal, it's a fait accompli, so complain all ya want, the show is over, this is done and we're moving on to the next thing. Look how stable the Iran nuclear deal has been. If Trump gets the Korea deal, that's the deal. Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss < peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > [image: A missile is launched during a long and medium-range ballistic > rocket launch drill in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean > Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang on August 30, 2017.] > Trump to Demand Full Removal of N. Korea's Nuclear, Ballistic Arsenal – > Bolton > © REUTERS / KCNA > MILITARY & INTELLIGENCE > 23:08 29.04.2018Get short URL > 20 > > 336 > > MOSCOW (Sputnik) - US President Donald Trump intends to seek complete > elimination of the North Korean nuclear and ballistic missile arsenal > before making concessions to Pyongyang in lifting economic sanctions from > the country, US National Security Adviser John Bolton told Fox News on > Sunday. > > When asked whether Trump would make concessions to Kim only after North > Korea completely destroys its missile and nuclear potential, Bolton > answered positively. > > "Yes, I think that's what denuclearization means. We have very much > in mind the Libya model [of complete elimination of weapons in question] > from 2003, 2004 [when the country joined the UN convention on eliminating > chemical weapons]… The Libyan program was much smaller, but that was > basically the agreement that we made," he said as quoted by Fox News. > > [image: Surveillance] > CC0 / PIXABAY > > Little Help From My Friends: US Intel Requests Firms' Aid in Tracking > Military Objects in N Korea - Reports > > Bolton also confirmed that the United States would start lifting economic > sanctions from North Korea only after full denuclearization. > > Last week, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said that his country would > stop nuclear tests and launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles > as well as shut down a nuclear test site. Trump has welcomed the > announcement calling it a "big progress." > > On Friday, Trump said that he would hold a meeting with the North Korean > leader in "the coming weeks," and that the location for the meeting had > been narrowed down to two or three sites. > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Apr 30 13:46:21 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 13:46:21 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] So much for peace on the Korean peninsula, however with reunification, it may not be so easy to control our economic sanctions. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Look how stable the Iran nuclear deal has been. If Trump gets the Korea deal, that's the deal. Yeah, but the problem is that it looks like Trump is going to Dump the Iran deal may 12. Basically stabbing the Iranians in the back after Obama had stabbed the Libyans in the back. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss On Behalf Of Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 8:16 AM To: Karen Aram Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] So much for peace on the Korean peninsula, however with reunification, it may not be so easy to control our economic sanctions. I wouldn't necessarily read too much into this. The U.S. always goes into negotiations with the public story being their maximal demands. It's the same way the Obama Administration went into the Iran nuclear talks. Part of the theory is: don't concede anything in public until there's a deal. If there's no deal people will attack the concession and there's nothing to show for it. In the context of a deal, one can say, ok, you didn't like this concession, but here's what we got in exchange. And there was no way to get that without making that concession. And besides, it's a done deal, it's a fait accompli, so complain all ya want, the show is over, this is done and we're moving on to the next thing. Look how stable the Iran nuclear deal has been. If Trump gets the Korea deal, that's the deal. Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: [A missile is launched during a long and medium-range ballistic rocket launch drill in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang on August 30, 2017.] Trump to Demand Full Removal of N. Korea's Nuclear, Ballistic Arsenal – Bolton © REUTERS / KCNA MILITARY & INTELLIGENCE 23:08 29.04.2018Get short URL 20336 MOSCOW (Sputnik) - US President Donald Trump intends to seek complete elimination of the North Korean nuclear and ballistic missile arsenal before making concessions to Pyongyang in lifting economic sanctions from the country, US National Security Adviser John Bolton told Fox News on Sunday. When asked whether Trump would make concessions to Kim only after North Korea completely destroys its missile and nuclear potential, Bolton answered positively. "Yes, I think that's what denuclearization means. We have very much in mind the Libya model [of complete elimination of weapons in question] from 2003, 2004 [when the country joined the UN convention on eliminating chemical weapons]… The Libyan program was much smaller, but that was basically the agreement that we made," he said as quoted by Fox News. [Surveillance] CC0 / PIXABAY Little Help From My Friends: US Intel Requests Firms' Aid in Tracking Military Objects in N Korea - Reports Bolton also confirmed that the United States would start lifting economic sanctions from North Korea only after full denuclearization. Last week, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said that his country would stop nuclear tests and launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles as well as shut down a nuclear test site. Trump has welcomed the announcement calling it a "big progress." On Friday, Trump said that he would hold a meeting with the North Korean leader in "the coming weeks," and that the location for the meeting had been narrowed down to two or three sites. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naiman at justforeignpolicy.org Mon Apr 30 14:25:17 2018 From: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (Robert Naiman) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:25:17 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] So much for peace on the Korean peninsula, however with reunification, it may not be so easy to control our economic sanctions. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We'll see. Trump is threatening the Iran deal as a pressure tactic to get the Europeans to adopt a more aggressive stance to Iran on issues outside the deal. He might follow through on the threat. He might not. He might try to do something in-between. We will see. Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:46 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss < peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > Look how stable the Iran nuclear deal has been. If Trump gets the Korea > deal, that's the deal. > > Yeah, but the problem is that it looks like Trump is going to Dump the > Iran deal may 12. Basically stabbing the Iranians in the back after Obama > had stabbed the Libyans in the back. Fab. > > > > > > > > *Francis A. Boyle* > > *Law Building* > > *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.* > > *Champaign, IL 61820 USA* > > *217-333-7954 (phone)* > > *217-244-1478 (fax)* > > *(personal comments only)* > > > > *From:* Peace-discuss *On > Behalf Of *Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss > *Sent:* Monday, April 30, 2018 8:16 AM > *To:* Karen Aram > *Cc:* Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] So much for peace on the Korean peninsula, > however with reunification, it may not be so easy to control our economic > sanctions. > > > > I wouldn't necessarily read too much into this. The U.S. always goes into > negotiations with the public story being their maximal demands. It's the > same way the Obama Administration went into the Iran nuclear talks. Part of > the theory is: don't concede anything in public until there's a deal. If > there's no deal people will attack the concession and there's nothing to > show for it. In the context of a deal, one can say, ok, you didn't like > this concession, but here's what we got in exchange. And there was no way > to get that without making that concession. And besides, it's a done deal, > it's a fait accompli, so complain all ya want, the show is over, this is > done and we're moving on to the next thing. > > > > Look how stable the Iran nuclear deal has been. If Trump gets the Korea > deal, that's the deal. > > > > > Robert Naiman > Policy Director > Just Foreign Policy > www.justforeignpolicy.org > naiman at justforeignpolicy.org > > (202) 448-2898 x1 > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > [image: A missile is launched during a long and medium-range ballistic > rocket launch drill in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean > Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang on August 30, 2017.] > Trump to Demand Full Removal of N. Korea's Nuclear, Ballistic Arsenal – > Bolton > > © REUTERS / KCNA > > *MILITARY & INTELLIGENCE* > > 23:08 29.04.2018*Get short URL* > > 20 > > 336 > > *MOSCOW (Sputnik) - US President Donald Trump intends to seek complete > elimination of the North Korean nuclear and ballistic missile arsenal > before making concessions to Pyongyang in lifting economic sanctions from > the country, US National Security Adviser John Bolton told Fox News on > Sunday.* > > When asked whether Trump would make concessions to Kim only after North > Korea completely destroys its missile and nuclear potential, Bolton > answered positively. > > *"Yes, I think that's what denuclearization means. We have very much > in mind the Libya model [of complete elimination of weapons in question] > from 2003, 2004 [when the country joined the UN convention on eliminating > chemical weapons]… The Libyan program was much smaller, but that was > basically the agreement that we made," he said as quoted by Fox News.* > > [image: Surveillance] > > CC0 / PIXABAY > > > *Little Help From My Friends: US Intel Requests Firms' Aid in Tracking > Military Objects in N Korea - Reports > * > > Bolton also confirmed that the United States would start lifting economic > sanctions from North Korea only after full denuclearization. > > Last week, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said that his country would > stop nuclear tests and launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles > as well as shut down a nuclear test site. Trump has welcomed the > announcement calling it a "big progress." > > On Friday, Trump said that he would hold a meeting with the North Korean > leader in "the coming weeks," and that the location for the meeting had > been narrowed down to two or three sites. > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Apr 30 14:28:42 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 14:28:42 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] So much for peace on the Korean peninsula, however with reunification, it may not be so easy to control our economic sanctions. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It is illegal under UN Charter article 2(4) to threaten to use military force. Indeed, the Kellogg-Briand Peace Pact condemned war as an instrument of national policy. We hanged Nazis at Nuremberg for that. Of course I am against the death penalty for anyone. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com On Behalf Of Robert Naiman Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:25 AM To: Boyle, Francis A Cc: Karen Aram ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] So much for peace on the Korean peninsula, however with reunification, it may not be so easy to control our economic sanctions. We'll see. Trump is threatening the Iran deal as a pressure tactic to get the Europeans to adopt a more aggressive stance to Iran on issues outside the deal. He might follow through on the threat. He might not. He might try to do something in-between. We will see. Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:46 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss > wrote: Look how stable the Iran nuclear deal has been. If Trump gets the Korea deal, that's the deal. Yeah, but the problem is that it looks like Trump is going to Dump the Iran deal may 12. Basically stabbing the Iranians in the back after Obama had stabbed the Libyans in the back. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss > On Behalf Of Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 8:16 AM To: Karen Aram > Cc: Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] So much for peace on the Korean peninsula, however with reunification, it may not be so easy to control our economic sanctions. I wouldn't necessarily read too much into this. The U.S. always goes into negotiations with the public story being their maximal demands. It's the same way the Obama Administration went into the Iran nuclear talks. Part of the theory is: don't concede anything in public until there's a deal. If there's no deal people will attack the concession and there's nothing to show for it. In the context of a deal, one can say, ok, you didn't like this concession, but here's what we got in exchange. And there was no way to get that without making that concession. And besides, it's a done deal, it's a fait accompli, so complain all ya want, the show is over, this is done and we're moving on to the next thing. Look how stable the Iran nuclear deal has been. If Trump gets the Korea deal, that's the deal. Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: [A missile is launched during a long and medium-range ballistic rocket launch drill in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang on August 30, 2017.] Trump to Demand Full Removal of N. Korea's Nuclear, Ballistic Arsenal – Bolton © REUTERS / KCNA MILITARY & INTELLIGENCE 23:08 29.04.2018Get short URL 20336 MOSCOW (Sputnik) - US President Donald Trump intends to seek complete elimination of the North Korean nuclear and ballistic missile arsenal before making concessions to Pyongyang in lifting economic sanctions from the country, US National Security Adviser John Bolton told Fox News on Sunday. When asked whether Trump would make concessions to Kim only after North Korea completely destroys its missile and nuclear potential, Bolton answered positively. "Yes, I think that's what denuclearization means. We have very much in mind the Libya model [of complete elimination of weapons in question] from 2003, 2004 [when the country joined the UN convention on eliminating chemical weapons]… The Libyan program was much smaller, but that was basically the agreement that we made," he said as quoted by Fox News. [Surveillance] CC0 / PIXABAY Little Help From My Friends: US Intel Requests Firms' Aid in Tracking Military Objects in N Korea - Reports Bolton also confirmed that the United States would start lifting economic sanctions from North Korea only after full denuclearization. Last week, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said that his country would stop nuclear tests and launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles as well as shut down a nuclear test site. Trump has welcomed the announcement calling it a "big progress." On Friday, Trump said that he would hold a meeting with the North Korean leader in "the coming weeks," and that the location for the meeting had been narrowed down to two or three sites. _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here’s part of the statement which appeared in Chinese state media: “China should make it clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten U.S. soil first and the U.S. retaliates, China will stay neutral,” (but) “If the U.S. and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so.” “China opposes both nuclear proliferation and war in the Korean Peninsula. It will not encourage any side to stir up military conflict, and will firmly resist any side which wants to change the status quo of the areas where China’s interests are concerned.” -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From r-szoke at illinois.edu Mon Apr 30 16:04:27 2018 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 16:04:27 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] NYTimes.com: Happy Birthday, Karl Marx. You Were Right! Message-ID: >From The New York Times: Happy Birthday, Karl Marx. You Were Right! Social justice movements like Black Lives Matter and #MeToo embody his critical spirit. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/opinion/karl-marx-at-200-influence.html From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Apr 30 16:16:12 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 16:16:12 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] NYTimes.com: Happy Birthday, Karl Marx. You Were Right! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ron With out reading the NYT article, I must say what you have presented below, doesn’t present Marx accurately, which is typical of the NYT’s. Marx “critical spirit” was in relation to “capitalism," even the Communist Manifesto focuses on "materialism." Until capitalism is abolished there is little hope of doing anything to prevent the wrongs related to racism, exploitation, or sexual harassment. > On Apr 30, 2018, at 09:04, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss wrote: > > From The New York Times: > > Happy Birthday, Karl Marx. You Were Right! > > Social justice movements like Black Lives Matter and #MeToo embody his critical spirit. > > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/opinion/karl-marx-at-200-influence.html > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From cgestabrook at gmail.com Mon Apr 30 16:44:42 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:44:42 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] NYTimes.com: Happy Birthday, Karl Marx. You Were Right! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F42A081-3A79-4F52-B23F-06DA2B3128FE@gmail.com> Interesting & informed, in spite of the weird identity-politics turn at the end: identity politics is the craven rejection of the class politics Marx thought and talked about. Marx meant to analyze capitalism (not socialism) in the (hidden) process of class struggles: “the history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles". Capitalism today has altered in two centuries, and Marx’ texts should not be used as Luther used the Letter to the Romans, as a source of timeless truths. But we probably can say of communism what Chesterton said of the Christian ideal - it "has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult; and left untried.” To pursue the matter, I’d suggest the following: >. —CGE > On Apr 30, 2018, at 11:04 AM, Szoke, Ron via Peace-discuss wrote: > > From The New York Times: > > Happy Birthday, Karl Marx. You Were Right! > > Social justice movements like Black Lives Matter and #MeToo embody his critical spirit. > > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/opinion/karl-marx-at-200-influence.html > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Apr 30 18:59:00 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 18:59:00 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tonight 5pm: "Nuclear Disarmament and Civil Society: The Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons and the Nobel Peace Prize for ICAN 2017" Message-ID: in the first Jeremiah Sullivan Memorial Lecture Sullivan was a member of the Super-Secret JASONS, a group of Doctors Strangeloves who advise the Pentagon on the threat and use of nuclear weapons, biological weapons etc.. At the time they used to meet and still might do so at the Headquarters of the Mitre Corporation—A Big Arms Contractor.When I was on the Executive Committee of the Program in Arms Control, Disarmament and International Security and Sullivan was the Chair, he repeatedly prevented me from discussing the open-air atomic bomb test over the Ocean by Apartheid South Africa and Apartheid Israel. That just shows you how pernicious these Spook Professors really are on Campus. Ditto for CIA Professors and CIA Departments such a Political Science and Psychology. Ditto for our biowarfare death scientists and College such as VetMed. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss > On Behalf Of Stuart Levy via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 1:40 PM To: Peace > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tonight 5pm: "Nuclear Disarmament and Civil Society: The Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons and the Nobel Peace Prize for ICAN 2017" Late announcement of a talk happening this afternoon 5pm Monday 4/30 Loomis Lab room 141, corner of Green and Goodwin "Nuclear Disarmament and Civil Society: The Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons and the Nobel Peace Prize for ICAN 2017” Speaker: Professor Jürgen Scheffran, Hamburg University in the first Jeremiah Sullivan Memorial Lecture -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fboyle at illinois.edu Mon Apr 30 19:36:27 2018 From: fboyle at illinois.edu (Boyle, Francis A) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 19:36:27 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tonight 5pm: "Nuclear Disarmament and Civil Society: The Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons and the Nobel Peace Prize for ICAN 2017" References: <1c3d18d9-ce10-e7bf-0c37-c677f98c5080@gmail.com> Message-ID: And of course so much of what purport to be “biological sciences” and “biological scientists” on this campus are bought and paid for by Monsanto—Frankenfoods and Frankenprofs. And now the German Nazis at Bayer are taking over the American Nazis at Monsanto. Fab Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Boyle, Francis A Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 1:51 PM To: 'Stuart Levy' ; Peace Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Tonight 5pm: "Nuclear Disarmament and Civil Society: The Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons and the Nobel Peace Prize for ICAN 2017" in the first Jeremiah Sullivan Memorial Lecture Sullivan was a member of the Super-Secret JASONS, a group of Doctors Strangeloves who advise the Pentagon on the threat and use of nuclear weapons, biological weapons etc.. At the time they used to meet and still might do so at the Headquarters of the Mitre Corporation—A Big Arms Contractor.When I was on the Executive Committee of the Program in Arms Control, Disarmament and International Security and Sullivan was the Chair, he repeatedly prevented me from discussing the open-air atomic bomb test over the Ocean by Apartheid South Africa and Apartheid Israel. That just shows you how pernicious these Spook Professors really are on Campus. Ditto for CIA Professors and CIA Departments such a Political Science and Psychology. Ditto for our biowarfare death scientists and Colleges such as VetMed. Fab. Francis A. Boyle Law Building 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave. Champaign, IL 61820 USA 217-333-7954 (phone) 217-244-1478 (fax) (personal comments only) From: Peace-discuss > On Behalf Of Stuart Levy via Peace-discuss Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 1:40 PM To: Peace > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tonight 5pm: "Nuclear Disarmament and Civil Society: The Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons and the Nobel Peace Prize for ICAN 2017" Late announcement of a talk happening this afternoon 5pm Monday 4/30 Loomis Lab room 141, corner of Green and Goodwin "Nuclear Disarmament and Civil Society: The Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons and the Nobel Peace Prize for ICAN 2017” Speaker: Professor Jürgen Scheffran, Hamburg University in the first Jeremiah Sullivan Memorial Lecture -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r-szoke at illinois.edu Mon Apr 30 20:36:18 2018 From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:36:18 +0000 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Storm front Message-ID: WOW ! THIS JUST IN … Adult-film star Stormy Daniels has filed a defamation suit against President Trump in addition to her ongoing one against his personal attorney, Michael Cohen. Daniels's lawyer, Michael Avenatti, tweeted Monday that his client has filed the lawsuit for Trump's "irresponsible and defamatory statements" about Daniels, whom Cohen paid $130,000 as part of a nondisclosure agreement weeks before the 2016 election. The complaint alleges that Trump's tweets mocking Daniels over a forensic sketch of a man she says threatened her to keep quiet about her claims of an affair with the president amount to defamation because they accuse her of fabricating the alleged crime, which would itself be illegal. > Has anyone else heard the rumor that Ms. Stormy Daniels is to be named to an endowed chair at a formerly great Midwestern sports university as the inaugural Stormy Daniels Professor of Sex Education and Gender Lore? She is to conduct research, instruction and especially public service in this area by making more videos for her nationwide “Make America Horny Again” (MAHA) project, with the laudable aim of influencing Americans to devote themselves to lovemaking rather than shooting and killing each other. The chair is to be funded from a legal judgment of ten million dollars obtained from a highly placed admirer who says he wants to make M.S.U. great again, but insists on remaining anonymous. # # # -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: