[Peace-discuss] NYT:Comey The "Slimeball"

[C G Estabrook]

I’m surprised to see you quoting Harvey ‘C-plus' Mansfield in support of an historical opinion. Garrett Mattingly is better.


> On Apr 14, 2018, at 10:00 AM, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu> wrote:
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> We have been through this before. For ten years  getting four degrees at the University of Chicago (1) and Harvard (3) in Political Science (3) and Law (1), not one of my professors treated Machiavelli’s The Prince  as a joke. Indeed, even Harvey Mansfield, Harvard’s leading Straussian NeoConservative Theorist for the last generation took the time to do  his own translation of Machiavelli’s The Prince because the Straussian NeoCons are Machiavellians. Fab.
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> From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] 
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> It seems that Il principe was a sardonic joke that was too good: v. <http://www2.idehist.uu.se/distans/ilmh/Ren/flor-mach-mattingly.htm>.
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> On Apr 14, 2018, at 9:46 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> Before going to Harvard Law School, Obama transferred into Columbia for college where his Mentor was the Infamous Brzezinski--Machiavellian to the Core. Fab.
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> Required reading at UChicago and Harvard to get my 4 degrees from them. Fab.
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> Discrediting the awful Niebuhr is a consummation devoutly to be wished.
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> From 30 years ago: <https://www.jstor.org/stable/25006974>.
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> On Apr 14, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> For those of you who might not have waded through  Niebuhr, in a nutshell his basic  argument is that although you can be moral in your personal life, you must be immoral if you work for the United States government. Ain’t it the truth? Machiavelli made a similar argument in his Prince: Wherefore a prince must learn how not to be good, and use it or not according to necessity.  Niebuhr is required reading in college and graduate school  for aspiring US Imperial Apparatchiks in order to soothe their consciences for all the dirty work they do for the American Empire. Obama too said Niebuhr was his favorite  theologian. No wonder Obama  appointed Pee Tapes Comey Director of the American Gestapo—AKA FBI.
> Fab
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