[Peace-discuss] Chomsky on Nicaragua…

[David Green]

The fairly amazing Max Blumenthal, on the ground in Nicaragua, provides a
journalistic counter to Chomsky:

https://shadowproof.com/2018/08/05/max-blumenthal-nicaragua-violent-protests-interview/


On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 11:57 AM David Johnson via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> I DEFINITELY disagree with Chomsky on this issue !
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> He is not in Nicaragua and is basing his opinion on what he has read in
> the international corporate press and the pseudo Left pro-interventionists
> blogs.
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> You need to read Max Blumenthal and Kevin Zeese’s reports about Nicaragua.
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> This is the same old same old campaign to destabilize any and all
> governments elected by the people who oppose neo-liberalism. Just like in
> Venezuela and in Bolivia. This time the only differences is that it is a
> little more sophisticated in it’s methods.
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> Even if Ortega is “ corrupt “ that is for the Nicaraguan people to take
> care of , NOT the U.S. and it’s minions.
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> Ortega was elected in a democratic election. FAR more democratic than here
> in the u.S. and there is NO reason for him to resign. That is exactly what
> the u.S. and the ruling class elites in Nicaragua want.
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> Chomsky is not God and he has been wrong before on certain issues ( even
> though I garee with him 98 % of the time ) and he is definitely uninformed
> / misinformed and hence wrong on this issue.
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> He should know better.
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> David J.
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> *From:* Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 04, 2018 7:58 PM
> *To:* Brussel, Morton K
> *Cc:* Peace Discuss
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Chomsky on Nicaragua…
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> Chomsky has been well-informed on Nicaragua for a long time. I wouldn’t
> disregard his views.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 4, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss <
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> "Although Chomsky echoes the talking points of the USAID administrator
> Mark Green about “Ortega’s brutal regime
> <https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/press-releases/jul-20-2018-usaid-administrator-mark-green-remarks-meeting-diaspora-groups>,”
> he can’t quite bring himself to accept responsibility for regime change.
> Chomsky despairs
> <https://www.democracynow.org/2018/7/27/chomsky_criticizes_autocratic_nicaraguan_government_urges>,
> “it’s hard to see a simple way out at this point. It’s a very unfortunate
> situation.”
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> Chomsky is concerned about corruption, repression, and autocracy in
> Nicaragua, urging the democratically elected president to step down and run
> for re-election. Need it be mentioned that Chomsky chastised leftists
> <https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/noam-chomsky-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-a7438526.html>
> who did not “absolutely
> <https://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/noam-chomsky-supports-hillary-clinton-218192>”
> support Hillary Clinton? It is from this moral ground that the professor
> looks down on Nicaragua.
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> These charges of corruption and such are addressed
> <https://afgj.org/the-case-against-daniel-ortega>by long-time solidarity
> activist Chuck Kaufman:
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> + The World Bank, IMF, and EU countries have certified Nicaragua for its
> effective use of international loans and grants; funds were spent for the
> purposes they were given, not siphoned off into corruption.
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> + Kaufman asks, “why a police force that in 39 years had not repressed the
> Nicaraguan people would suddenly go berserk,” while videos clearly show the
> violence of the more militant opposition.
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> + Ortega won in 2006 with a 38% plurality, in 2011 with 63%, and 72.5% in
> 2016. The Organization of American States officially accompanied and
> certified the vote. Kaufman notes, “Dictators don’t win fair elections by
> growing margins.”
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> From
> https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/08/03/chomsky-on-regime-change-in-nicaragua/
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> —mkb
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