[Peace-discuss] Re Program: Saturday "The Role of Women in Stopping the Threat of Nuclear War"

Tue Feb 6 03:47:09 UTC 2018

Dear Karen,

I’m surprised at your statement: …This in spite of the damage to the Pacific ocean and all life within, with high radiation levels approaching the west coast….  Please give references for this outrageous statement.

—mkb

On Feb 5, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

If Bob focuses on “war” we have no problem with that.

We’ll see what the Prof. has to say in relation to North Korea and US relations, she had better be accurate in relation to who is provoking war, another war with North Korea.

We shouldn’t be too hard on the student supporting nuclear power, but we have a right to disagree with her.

Is she the WAND Representative? If so, that does need to be addressed.

I hope all who oppose war will join me, we can’t sit this one out.
Though now they know we’re coming, they’ll probably cancel Q & A.

On Feb 5, 2018, at 18:58, David Johnson via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

" our sometimes-comrade (but not for Trots) Bob Naiman "

Not just " Not for Trots ", also - Anarchists, Greens, and anyone who criticizes the Democratic party.

David J.

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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Chicanery by the Dems: Program: Saturday "The Role of Women in Stopping the Threat of Nuclear War"

One of the speakers is Robert Naiman, "Policy Director at Just Foreign Policy [and] president of the board of Truthout...”

Although the Democratic Party front 'Just Foreign Policy' occasionally gets something right (e.g., Yemen), our sometimes-comrade (but not for Trots) Bob Naiman cannot be trusted on issues of science and Democrats. Witness his awful behavior during the election: <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.counterpunch.org%2F2016%2F08%2F19%2Froaming-charges-prime-time-green%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C366a808b2fa0424b20be08d56d0d8404%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636534827174592297&sdata=nnpt4M9HnWUPmJyG2JMtHZ24o2RfNvu56vy9PjaUtdY%3D&reserved=0>.

—CGE

On Feb 5, 2018, at 8:06 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Nothing good can come from Illinois WAND. It has already been coopted and perverted by the nuclear power industry working in cahoots with the Dems in violation of everything Dr. Helen Caldicott has stood for during her entire career. Fab.

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Subject: FW: [Peace-discuss] FW: Chicanery by the Dems: Program: Saturday "The Role of Women in Stopping the Threat of Nuclear War"

And now we know why the Dems kept the name of what they styled as their “campus peace feminist” under wraps until the very last minute. The Dems knew they were going to deal their card from the bottom of the deck down and dirty. Their Consciousness of Guilt. You just can’t trust those Dems. Fab.

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Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] FW: Chicanery by the Dems: Program: Saturday "The Role of Women in Stopping the Threat of Nuclear War"

That is not the point. The point is that WAND was founded by Dr. Helen Caldicott. And here the alleged Illinois  chapter of WAND is being founded upon principles that are totally antithetical to everything Caldicott has stood for, including founding Physicians for Social Responsibility, which won the Nobel Peace Prize. This Illinois Chapter of WAND is a joke and a fraud organized by the  Democratic Party  who probably got substantial campaign contributions from the nuclear power industry to do so. Fab.

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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Chicanery by the Dems: Program: Saturday "The Role of Women in Stopping the Threat of Nuclear War"

Helen Caldicott is, in my opinion, a nut case. Her statements are not to be believed.   (Nuclear radiation courses through us all the time, and has been from the beginning of human  and life evolution. It even has health benefits in managed small amounts. I could go on… )   —mkb

On Feb 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Naiman must know Dr. Caldicott is completely against nuclear power. It looks to me like Exelon made a substantial campaign contribution to the Dems. Fab.

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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Chicanery by the Dems: Program: Saturday "The Role of Women in Stopping the Threat of Nuclear War"

Maybe the local Dems don’t realize what they are doing? Maybe we’re wrong and it will be a debate?
(Thats me being kind)

Obama gave the go ahead to build more nuclear plants in the US, during his administration.

As of December 27th Westinghouse was given approval to go ahead with 2 new nuclear power plants in Georgia. This is in spite of the high pay rates already occurred, and Westinghouse incurring bankruptcy, They will be “supported” by Exelon of Illinois, and Fluor.

Westinghouse is also planning some in Saudi Arabia, and India, utilizing their AP1000. This in spite of the damage to the Pacific ocean and all life within, with high radiation levels approaching the west coast.

Yes, Helen Caldecott the original organizer of WAND opposed nuclear power on the grounds, “there is no such thing as safe nuclear power.” Let’s hope the WAND Representative will debate this issue, is there a WAND Representative now? I was told a Representative from Chicago would be there.

Unfortunately, WAND is now an NGO anyway.

Add to that the Korean Representative speaking, is of South Korean heritage, I hope she presents complete and accurate information related to US/North Korea relations.

I am urging all my (anti-war colleagues to be there, we have our work cut out for us, countering inaccurate information that maybe put forth.

Let’s hope it won’t be necessary and we are wrong, and we will be presented with a just and accurate program.

On Feb 5, 2018, at 11:51, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

The Dems are exploiting  the good name and reputation of Dr. Helen
Caldicott to promote the nuclear power industry. This is a shocking
disgrace and a scandal! fab

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Subject: Chicanery by the Dems: Program: Saturday "The Role of Women in Stopping the Threat of Nuclear War"

The presence of this apologist for the nuclear power industry on this panel is totally antithetical to everything WAND Founder  Dr. Helen Caldicott has stood for during her career. Obviously, the Democrats are trying to pull off political chicanery here. fab.

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Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Program: Saturday "The Role of Women in Stopping the Threat of Nuclear War"

Tori Riso is a tutor at Illini Tutoring. Having graduated from UIUC with a Bachelor's in Engineering, Tori is now working towards getting a Master's in Nuclear Engineering. She is an advocate of developing nuclear energy as an efficient way to decrease carbon emissions and societal reliance on fossil fuels. After graduation, she hopes to conduct research in the nuclear energy industry.
I have a very serious problem here. We were told that  Dr. Helen Caldicott was behind the organization of WAND. Dr. Caldicott has literally pioneered the field against nuclear power. In her numerous writings Dr. Caldicott has definitively established that there is no such thing as a “safe” dose of radiation. How dare they put an apologist for the nuclear power industry on this panel! Fab.

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Subject: [Peace-discuss] Program: Saturday "The Role of Women in Stopping the Threat of Nuclear War"

FEB10
The Role Of Women In Stopping Nuclear War  · Hosted by State
Representative Carol Ammons Saturday, February 10 at 2 PM - 4 PM CST ·
Urbana-Champaign Independent Media Center
202 S Broadway Ave, Urbana, Illinois 61801
·
With the threat of nuclear warning growing, now more than ever it is critical we bring to the table the voices of those directly impacted by war and organize ourselves to advocate for peaceful solutions.

Join Representative Carol Ammons and a panel of experts discussing topics ranging from historical overview of United States involvement in global conflict, current international relations between the United States and key countries, experiences of military personnel who have served on the ground during wartime, and hear the experiences of those who have been forced to relocate because of war.

The panel is the kickoff event to starting the Illinois Chapter of Women's Action for New Directions (WAND). WAND empowers women to be agents of change to reduce violence and militarism, support nuclear disarmament, and redirect excessive Pentagon spending to unmet human and environmental needs.

About our speakers:

Ji-Yeon Yuh is a History professor at Northwestern University and specializes in Asian American Studies, Comparative Race and Diaspora, and Gender and Sexuality Studies. She has extensively researched military conflicts, particularly focusing on how they have impacted women. She is also active in her community; she co-founded the Alliance of Scholars Concerned about Korea, is a board member of Korea Policy Institute, and was a board president of KANWIN, a Korean American women's organization focused on ending domestic violence.

Robert Naiman is the Policy Director at Just Foreign Policy, a non-partisan organization dedicated to organizing Americans desirous of having foreign policy based in diplomacy, law, and cooperation. He is the president of the board of Truthout, a non-profit organization focused on providing independent daily news, and has worked as policy analyst and researcher at the Center for Economic and Policy Research and the Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch. He has masters degrees in Economics and Mathematics, and has both studied and lived in the Middle East.

Tori Riso is a tutor at Illini Tutoring. Having graduated from UIUC with a Bachelor's in Engineering, Tori is now working towards getting a Master's in Nuclear Engineering. She is an advocate of developing nuclear energy as an efficient way to decrease carbon emissions and societal reliance on fossil fuels. After graduation, she hopes to conduct research in the nuclear energy industry.

*All are welcome to attend the panel and join the Illinois Chapter of WAND.
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