[Peace-discuss] FW: WAND AGAINST NUCLEAR POWER!

Thu Feb 8 13:28:50 UTC 2018

Bullshit - so say a lot of scientists - I am not in the military - I never
served in Intelligence - I do my own research - I even corresponded with Dr
Caldicott and I found her reply not creditable.  I know a number of other
people who also have found her to be a dishonest information broker.  I am
probably the only one, though, who wrote to the licensing authority in
Australia to request that her medical license be revoked since she
knowingly disseminates false information and that is contrary to the
Hippocratic Oath.

Roger

Is anyone on this list an attorney who can inform FAB that I am tired of
his miscontruing who I am and that knowingly lying about someone with the
intention of damaging their reputation is legally wrong.

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 5:11 AM, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>
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> *So says “military intelligence.” fab*
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> *From:* Roger Helbig [mailto:rwhelbig at gmail.com]
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> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: WAND AGAINST NUCLEAR POWER!
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> Caldicott may have a great name in the anti-nuclear activist community,
> but she often lies about the basic science and you have bought into that!
>  Nuclear power has not  poisoned, polluted, irradiated or murdered any
> children.  The anti-nuclear weapons movement should divorce itself from the
> anti-nuclear power movement.  The only real thing that they have in common
> is the word "nuclear" and then the lies begin because of that vague
> similarity.
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> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> *It took me under  a one minute google search to come up with this WAND
> Statement against nuclear power. So of course the Champaign County Dems are
> trying to pull a fast one on us on behalf of the nuclear power industry
> exploiting Helen Caldicott’s Good Name and Reputation and Brainchild. He
> who paid the Dems Piper called this despicable tune-- Poisoning and
> polluting and irradiating and murdering our children. That’s the Dems for
> you. Fab.*
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> *From:* Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 07, 2018 6:57 PM
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> *Subject:* [Peace-discuss] WAND AGAINST NUCLEAR POWER!
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> *Here is a very strong Statement against Nuclear Power by WAND**, founded
> by my Friend Helen Caldicott, who has devoted her entire career working
> against the dangers of nuclear radiation and nuclear power. The Champaign
> County Dems can read this as well as we can. Nevertheless on Saturday they
> are bringing in a Pimp for the Nuclear Power Industry and exploiting the
> good name of Helen and WAND  in order to poison and pollute and irradiate
> and murder our children. How dare the Dems do this! He who paid the Dem
> Piper called this tune! Fab.*
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> *WAND’s thoughts on the disaster in Japan*
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> *WAND is looking at the disaster in Japan with both heartbreak and
>  nerve-wracking worry. Days after the devastating earthquake and tsunami,
> the crises are continuing to mount. Of particular concern are the nuclear
> reactor explosions, fires and radioactive releases, all coming on top of
> earthquake aftershocks. Our hearts go out to the Japanese people in their
> desperate need for finding safe shelter and food so they can begin to ease
> the trauma and process grief. WAND passionately supports efforts to
> alleviate suffering and diminish evolving threats.*
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> *Here are some lessons we in the United States must learn from the
> unfolding crisis in Japan:*
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> *1)      Nuclear power is fraught with risk. There is a limit to what can
> be done to predict, mitigate and control that risk. Particularly at a time
> when we are cutting federal spending, the U.S. government should stop
> subsidizing this inherently dangerous energy source with federal loan
> guarantees and other subsidies. The United States should instead invest in
> less risky energy solutions. As Georgia WAND has stated: “We ask all those
> who support nuclear power expansion and the federal loans needed to prop it
> up - whether here or in other parts of the world - to rethink their
> position and consider how nuclear power threatens the safety and health of
> those who live directly downwind and downstream of nuclear power plants. By
> combining intelligence with imagination we can face "unthinkable" scenarios
> and turn towards much less risky energy solutions.“ *
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> *We urge you to take action:  Ask the President to stop subsidies for U.S.
> nuclear power. Send a short message here.
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> *For more information see our link
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.wand.org_2011_03_14_georgia-2Dwand-2Dspeaks-2Dup-2Dabout-2Dthe-2Devents-2Dunfolding-2Din-2Djapan_&d=DwMFAg&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=yYwZJ47Nv_cWJpXjzmEUbBDKAUoXgMrmOckznRGW00w&m=zBpYtYyycaObAxk2xlePehkIjUMHSoZgznXiQczKLYE&s=lvngdkG5cdnxKu7irg0W5jsdDOXwu20E_bXSCvcp-cY&e=>
> of Georgia WAND's response and “Japan's nuke threat 'a wake-up call' for
> the U.S." from USA Today.
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> *2)    The United States should also rethink nuclear weapons policy. The
> specter of radiation exposure in Japan is so frightening because we know
> the lethality of not just nuclear reactor accidents, but also the
> devastation of nuclear bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Even after
> the recently passed New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (New START), the
> United States plans to maintain thousands of nuclear weapons many times
> more destructive than the bombs dropped in Japan. More than enough to
> destroy the world and make the rubble bounce. Over the next 10 years, we
> plan to spend about $200 Billion on maintaining these nuclear weapons and
> their delivery systems.*
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> *For more information see "How much can we justify spending on nuclear
> weapons " in the Washington Post.
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> *3)    International cooperation to reduce nuclear dangersis crucial and
> should be strengthened. The United States should ratify the Comprehensive
> Test Ban Treaty (CTBT).  An extensive monitoring and detection system is
> being built up as part of the CTBT Organization to support verification
> efforts of this treaty that prohibits all nuclear weapons test explosions.
> This monitoring system was important in early detection and warning of the
> earthquakes and tsunami and it is continuing to play a role in tracking
> radionuclides in the unfolding nuclear reactor crisis.  The United States
> should participate in funding to expand this international monitoring
> system.   It is also essential that the United States show effective
> leadership with prompt CTBT ratification.  We must be vigilant in
> preventing environmental degradation and radiation exposure from all
> sources – including from nuclear test explosions. Moreover the CTBT is
> crucial to prevent the spread of new and more sophisticated nuclear
> weapons.**[image:
> https://www.wand.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/031411tsunamigeo_512x288-300x168.jpg]*
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> *For more information see the "Nuclear Test Gauges Beat CNN, Aid Radiation
> Watch in Japan" from Bloomberg.com
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> the Project for the CTBT.
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