[Peace-discuss] A clear sketch of the war in Syria

[C G Estabrook]

Many Western leftists (including Achcar) supported the initial Arab Spring uprising against Gaddafi (the ’17 February Revolution’) in 2011, and that against Assad in the same year.

In regard to Libya, the UN Security Council passed an initial resolution on 26 February, freezing the assets of Gaddafi and his government and restricting their travel, and referred the matter to the International Criminal Court for investigation. In early March the Libyan army pushed eastwards and re-took several coastal cities before reaching Benghazi. 

To prevent what was portrayed in the West as an impending massacre in Benghazi (Democracy Now! mongered a rumor that Libyan troops were issued Viagra to facilitate rape...), a further UN resolution authorized member states to establish and enforce a no-fly zone over Libya, and to use "all necessary measures" to prevent attacks on civilians, especially in Benghazi.

The US under the direction of Secretary of State Clinton initiated a bombing campaign by NATO. The Gaddafi government announced a ceasefire, but “she persisted...” 

NATO and the rebels rejected Gaddafi’s offers of a ceasefire and efforts by the African Union to end the fighting. The US was determined to remove the independent-minded Gaddafi. Clinton’s agents eventually sodomized him with a bayonet: “We came, we saw, he died,” said HRC.

Achcar like many other leftists supported the UN resolutions, but not the Obama-Clinton takeover of the uprising.

There were of course similarities in Syria, where an initial Arab Spring uprising was co-opted by the Obama administration, which sent and paid for jihadists from the KSA, Qatar, etc. (including AQ and eventually ISIS) to overthrow another oil-producing Arab government that wouldn’t follow all the orders from DC.

It’s not over (as Achcar says in this article). Assad had better watch his ass (literally).

And I’d still like to hear what you think is wrong with this article.

—CGE     


> On Feb 21, 2018, at 12:02 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> Obama exterminated 50,000+ Libyans and 500,000+ Syrians. Achcar publicly supported him. Fab.
> 
> Francis A. Boyle
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boyle, Francis A 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 11:57 AM
> To: 'C G Estabrook' <cgestabrook at gmail.com>
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> Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] A clear sketch of the war in Syria
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> I am not going to waste my time reading a warmongering lunatic who has publicly supported Obama's Nuremberg Crimes against Peace, Crimes against Humanity, war crimes and genocide against Libya and Syria. He has no credibility on anything. Fab.
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> Francis A. Boyle
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 11:55 AM
> To: Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>
> Cc: peace-discuss at anti-war.net; Peace <peace at anti-war.net>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] A clear sketch of the war in Syria
> 
> That’s at least a bit overstated, Francis.
> 
> What do you see wrong in this account of the situation in Syria?
> 
> —CGE
> 
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2018, at 11:44 AM, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Achcar is a warmongering lunatic who supported Obama’s wars of aggression against Libya and Syria. He has no credibility whatsoever. Fab.
>> 
>> Francis A. Boyle
>> Law Building
>> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
>> Champaign, IL 61820 USA
>> 217-333-7954 (phone)
>> 217-244-1478 (fax)
>> (personal comments only)
>> 
>> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net]
>> On Behalf Of C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 11:43 AM
>> To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net
>> Cc: Peace <peace at anti-war.net>
>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] A clear sketch of the war in Syria
>> 
>> https://medium.com/stories-soas/the-war-is-far-from-being-over-in-syri
>> a-17937139ac29
>> 
>> SOAS Syria Society | Feb 12 | The war is far from being over in Syria 
>> Syrian Corner talks with Gilbert Achcar about recent developments in the Syrian conflict.
>> 
>> Gilbert Achcar is Professor of Development Studies at SOAS, University of London, as well as a well-known author focusing on the Middle East and the Arab World. He met with Syrian Corner during Syria Awareness Week 2018. Achcar posits that the Syrian conflict is far from over and that for Bashar al-Assad to establish a new political framework, an accord between the US and Russia is necessary. Achcar says the role of Iran in a future Syria is one of the key issues at stake, and discusses the Turkish war against the PYD, the regional role of Saudi Arabia, the international peace conferences for Syria, the recent demonstrations in Iran, and the new US foreign policy for the Middle East in the interview [above].
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