[Peace-discuss] Help Stop Sexism!
C G Estabrook
cgestabrook at gmail.com
Wed Jan 17 21:08:50 UTC 2018
An important intellectual tradition advises "Rarely affirm, seldom deny, always distinguish.” I think it should be followed.
It seems necessary to distinguish between the PDA group and the anti-war movement. It looks like a group that needs to be bashed. Not as bad as MoveOn, perhaps, but close.
The ‘costs of war,’ e.g., should be much, much higher: we should be demanding the US pay reparations for the wars it’s currently conducting. —CGE
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 2:37 PM, Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com> wrote:
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> (removing the Peace list from this discussion)
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> The Intercept just published this piece about Chelsea Manning's race for Senate in Maryland against Ben Cardin.
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> I'm all for the ERA, but Cardin does not sound like any sort of prize we'd want to support in any other respect:
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> https://theintercept.com/2018/01/15/centrist-dems-launch-smear-campaign-against-young-trans-woman-all-to-keep-an-old-straight-white-man-in-power/
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> The depressing part of this argument is that there seems to be a full-force Dem invocation of Cold War rhetoric against Manning - not even complaining that she leaked the State Dept cables or the Collateral Murder videos from the Iraq war. No. Since she's opposing Cardin, she must be a tool of the Russian government. Putin put her up to it. Must be financing her campaign.
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> Yuck.
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> I'm leaving Mike Fox of PDA on this thread because of the article's pointing out a really nasty aspect of Cardin, his authoring of the infamous bill that would have made it a felony to support a boycott against Israel. The ACLU condemned it.
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> I support PDA, have been and will continue to be happy to work with local PDA organizers Deb Schrishuhn and Kevin Sandefur, but I too am uncomfortable with hearing that there'll be an event in PDA's name which is cheering on Ben Cardin.
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> On 01/17/2018 01:29 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote:
>> I know nothing about Senator Cardin, or Maryland politics. I agree with Cindy Sheehan, in relation to “womens’ marches.”
>> If we care about women, we should stop killing them, overseas, women of color, and on a daily basis with our foreign policy, of perpetual war.
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>> However, it should be noted, the local Progressive Democrats of America, did hold a joint panel last summer in relation to the “Costs of War” both human, and monetary. That program sparked a movement to produce a program comprising a member of WAND “Women’s Action for Nuclear Disarmament,” coming up in February. In addition to bringing Medea Benjamin of CODE PINK, to Champaign a couple years ago, speaking against war, they support healthcare over warfare.
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>> So let’s stop bashing the group and work with them in common cause to change US foreign policy.
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>> Chelsea Manning as a candidate opposing Cardin, is worth supporting, as she has proven herself to be not just courageous, but a true humanitarian.
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>> Hopefully now that PDA knows what we think of Senator Cardin, they will take another look at their promotion.
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>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 07:23, C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>>> And you evade my question on war policy, Mike.
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>>> I've had one of your 'Healthcare Not Warfare’ stickers on my car for a while - but’s that’s not the position of Sen. Cardin, whom you cry up in your "Support the Women’s March” ad.
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>>> Do you support him or his opponent in the Maryland Democratic primary?
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>>> Your pedigree is attractive - but the last Democratic US president - he of the eight wars and “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times,” his drone assassinations - became president by co-opting the anti-war movement. Are you doing the same thing?
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>>> Regards, CGE
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>>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 9:07 AM, Mike Fox <mikefox at pdamerica.org> wrote:
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>>>> You just don't know who we are, evidently, C.G.
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>>>> Our seminal campaign is Healthcare Not Warfare. We have an issue organizing team on End Wars And Occupations. Barbara Lee -- the single strongest peace advocate in congress -- is on our advisory board. Our org came out of the Dennis Kucinich campaign in 2004. We've never endorsed a corporatist Dem. We got Bernie to run and didn't endorse Clinton after she got the nomination. The only group with the word "Democrat" in it that I'm aware of that did that.
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>>>> Peace, health, and prosperity to you and yours,
>>>>
>>>> M
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>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:03 AM, C G Estabrook <cgestabrook at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Yep, that's one of the issues we stand for, CJ.” What issue, Mike? Bringing all US troops home?
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>>>> PDA seems to me to be a sheep-dogging operation, retrieving disaffected Democrats for the Obama-Clinton neocon & neoliberal policies - more war and more inequality.
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>>>> I’m opposed to those policies. Regards, C. G. Estabrook
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>>>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Mike Fox <mikefox at pdamerica.org> wrote:
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>>>>> Yep, that's one of the issues we stand for, CJ.
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>>>>> Looks like there isn't a march in Champaign. Would you be willing to support another event with phone calls to fellow PDA members to make sure they're showing up/showing solidarity?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Fox
>>>>> National Staff, Progressive Democrats Of America
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>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:47 AM, C G Estabrook <cgestabrook at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Sen. Cardin is a principal fomenter of the ‘Russiagate' nonsense - designed to force the Trump administration back into the Obama-Clinton politics of war and war provocations!
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember e.g. that Clinton as Secretary of State defended the US killing in Afghanistan by saying it was to secure the rights of women.
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>>>>> We should listen to ‘Progressive Democrats of America’ only when they begin to call for bringing all US troops (and weapons) home.
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>>>>> —CGE
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>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 7:31 AM, Donna Smith for Progressive Democrats of America <info at pdamerica.org> wrote:
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>>>>>> Support the Women’s March
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>>>>>> Dear Cg—
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>>>>>> Progressive Democrats of America (PDA) is a feminist organization. We became one of the first national organizations to endorse and work for legislation to lift the arbitrary deadline from the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA). We’re helping lead-sponsors Senator Ben Cardin and Representative Jackie Spier gain cosponsors to enshrine equality in the U.S. Constitution. In all honesty, we’ve been critically important to this effort.
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>>>>>> PDAers Andrea Miller, Mike Hersh, and Stephen Spitz helped lead organizing efforts on Capitol Hill—arm in arm with the National Organization for Women (NOW), United For Equality, and our friends Maryland State Senators Susan Lee and Rieger Manno, (who is running for the open Maryland 6th District House seat). Together, we helped encourage Sen. Cardin to step up as the lead sponsor of the Senate “3 State” ERA resolution. We’ve organized events and mobilized support in D.C. and the yet-to-ratify states.
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>>>>>> In solidarity,
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>>>>>> Donna Smith for Deb, Mike F, Judy, Mike H, Janis, Dan, Kimberly, Amos, Dr Bill, and Bryan—your PDA National Team
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